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Palin Camp Provides Conflicting Accounts of Iraq Visit

Updated 11:03 p.m.
By Anne E. Kornblut
RENO, Nev. -- Aides to Gov. Sarah Palin spent Saturday scrambling to explain details of her only trip outside North America in the wake of a report that that trip did not include travel into Iraq, as the McCain-Palin campaign had initially claimed.

Palin made an official visit to see Alaskan troops in Kuwait in July of 2007. There, she made a stop at a border crossing with Iraq on July 25, according to the Boston Globe, but did not go further into the country. "Sarah Palin's visit to Iraq in 2007 consisted of a brief stop at a border crossing between Iraq and Kuwait, the vice presidential candidate's campaign said yesterday, in the second official revision of her only trip outside North America," the Globe's Bryan Bender wrote, adding, later in his story: "[C]ampaign aides and National Guard officials in Alaska said by telephone yesterday that she did not venture beyond the Kuwait-Iraq border."

Lieutenant Colonel Dave Osborn, commander of the 3rd Battalion, 207th Infantry of the Alaska National Guard told the Globe she did not venture into Iraq. "You have to have permission to go into a lot of areas, and [the crossing] is where her permissions were," he said.

Late Saturday, a Palin spokeswoman provided yet a third revision to the story, stating that the Alaska governor briefly traveled a quarter of a mile across the border into Iraqi territory at the crossing point.

"Last summer, Governor Palin traveled to Kuwait where she visited Alaskan National Guard troops deployed to the war in Iraq at Camp Arifjen. While she was there she traveled to the K Crossing on the Kuwait-Iraq border, and a quarter mile into Iraq," spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt said. "According to the General who traveled with her, while she was there she presided over a re-enlistment ceremony of an Alaskan National Guard soldier.

"En route back to the United States, she traveled to Ramstein Air Base in Germany. While in Germany, Governor Palin visited wounded soldiers at the Landstuhl military hospital. She then returned home."

Palin was accompanied on the trip across the border by Maj. Gen. Michael Sumrall, assistant to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for National Guard Matters, according to the campaign.

Earlier, the campaign also said she had been to Ireland, but that turned out to have been a refueling stop on the same July trip. McCain aides have expressed indignation at questions about her slim foreign travel.

In her ABC interview, Palin said she had also been to Canada and to Mexico, where her advisers said she went on vacation.

Obama aides described the revisions to Palin's account as part of a growing pattern of deception. "The McCain campaign said Governor Palin opposed the Bridge to Nowhere, but now we know she supported it. They said she didn't seek earmarks, but now we know she hired a lobbyist to get millions in pork for her town and her state. They said she visited Iraq, but today we learned that she only stopped at the border. Americans are starting to wonder, is there anything the McCain campaign isn't lying about?" Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor asked in a statement e-mailed to reporters.

A short time later, the Obama campaign circulated a Bloomberg story that questions whether the McCain campaign has been sending out false crowd estimates.

On two occasions since Palin joined the ticket, McCain aides have cited law enforcement sources in claiming enormous crowds -- but law enforcement officials interviewed by Bloomberg denied having given such estimates.

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Here today, gone tomorrow. Incompetent, caustic, disfunctional sidekick of an elderly, corrupt candidate. Fun while it lasted.

Posted by: Ron Sampson | September 15, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

In response to Grace's,September 13, 2008 7:20 PM entry: It's funny how people like you (Republicans) slam Democrats regardless of whether or not they're in office, and never see through your own lies. Yet you will continue to vote Republican because you have all your life or because your parents did, never once stopping to really analyze what the Republican party stands for. If you really feel like you can trust the Republican party after everything Bush II has put this country through than you are a lost cause.

Posted by: Chris | September 15, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Justa post to comment about what I am seeing here today.....a lot of crapola!

Let's start with "Glido" Palin is the CIC of the Alaska National Guard. Excuse me but last week a top brass type was on television stating Palin never put the guard into action. We also learned that when the guard is activated, the order comes from Washington and the governor isn't consulted. She, Palin is CIC of NOTHING.

Second "Glido" I woud answer you by saying that I would prefer someone who came up from zero and made themselves into commendable person over the scion of Naval royalty (in meant elite) who graduated 5th fromt the bottom and had 5 jets shot out from under him. See, when you don't pay attention in school and spend a lot of your formative years drinking and chasing skirts, you don't perform well because your simply not equipped.

Oh, please stop saying the republicans politely state the facts...that statement is enough to make the well ill!.

Lastly, would "Dale" and "JJchicago" please go somewhere else to prove to each other that either is more supercilious than the other.

Posted by: Thatsnuts | September 15, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

The Media and threatened parties debated Truman and Reagan's Qualifications before her-


"Give 'em Hell, Sarah
Like Truman, a natural-born executive.
by Steven F. Hayward
09/22/2008, Volume 014, Issue 02


"Part of what bothers the establishment about Palin is her seeming insouciance toward public office. Her success with voters, and in national office, would be n affront and a reproach to establishment self-importance. Anyone who affects making it look easy surely lacks gravitas and must not grasp the complexity or depth of modern political problems. Partly this is the self-justification for establishment institutions and attitudes, but partly it represents the substantive view that the size and complexity of modern government require a level of expertise beyond the reach of ordinary citizens. Some of the doubts about Palin are doubts about self-government itself.

As far no one has picked up on the significance of Palin's invocation of Harry Truman in her convention speech. Her reference was more than just a bridge to a heartland-versus-Beltway theme. Truman, recall, was the only president of the 20th century who was not a college graduate. Less than two months after abruptly taking over from FDR with no preparation, Truman wrote his wife Bess describing his quick progress in taking the reins:


It won't be long before I can sit back and study the whole picture and tell 'em what is to be done in each department. When things come to that stage there'll be no more to this job than there was to running Jackson County and not any more worry.


In retrospect it is clear that Truman "got it." He didn't need any more "experience" to master the job. "Well I'm facing another tall day as usual,"
he ended that letter to Bess; "But I like 'em that way."

Ronald Reagan evinced the same attitude toward office as Truman and Palin. In fact, on closer inspection, one can hear in the criticism of Palin the echo of the same kind of complaint made against Ronald Reagan throughout his political career. Never mind that he'd been governor of California. That this graduate of Eureka College--where?--had made his career in Hollywood, a place as exotic and peculiar as Alaska, was decisive with the establishment. "Reagan's election," John P. Roche, a former head of Americans for Democratic Action, wrote in 1984, "was thus an 8-plus earthquake on the political Richter scale, and it sent a number of eminent statesmen--Republican and Democratic--into shock." It wasn't only liberals who found Reagan incomprehensible. "No previous president of the United States," Rowland Evans and Robert Novak wrote shortly after Reagan's election in 1980, "had so bizarre a preparation for political office."

Posted by: Scott | September 15, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

What do you really think about Obama vs. McCain?

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/jginges2

Posted by: KJ | September 15, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

Palin provides conflicting accounts on EVERYTHING.

Look at her stance on global warming: whether or not man is contributing to it, we must do something about it. But how are we supposed to do anything about it if man is not contributing? She couldn't answer that in the Gibson interview. So she must either admit that man is contributing or else say we can't do anything about it. Just commit to something little lady so we can understand your position.

Posted by: Don | September 15, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

You are missing the point
You can see Iraq from the Kuwait border
Lets hope she didn't blink in Ireland
She would have missed the whole country
"I oppossed the kid from nowhere
I said no thanks to abortion"
What a creep

Posted by: AuntyEveryone | September 14, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama camp calls Palins claims about her Iraq trip deception, how nice.
I call it...
pimping out...
falsifying facts...
lack of ability to distinguish the truth...

We just lived in hell for 8 years of this self righteous nationalism!
Time to leave denial at the doorstep
and take back the nation!

Posted by: rubenlruiz | September 14, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

how could you not know whether you'd been in Iraq or not? More brazen lying.

Posted by: lbh | September 14, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

They are incapable of the truth-
just as Bush Cheney were they are the same!
From A-Z Palin is disconnected- dubious etc.
Ms. Plain have you been to Iraq?
Oh my spokesman said yes, but I dont really know, but now we are saying that I touched the border line of Iraq but tomorrow who knows? But I can see Iraq from my front porch!
Like I been saying, Bush/Cheney the same sham as McCain /Palin!
Read, then leave the denial at the doorstep!

Posted by: rubenlruiz | September 14, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

When is the MSM going to report on 1. Palin's DIRECT involvement in forcing women to pay for their own rape kits in Wasilla, which she signed off on.
2. The largest rally in Alaskan history which was an ANTI-Palin rally.

Do reporters actually work for the people anymore or do they just work for McCain?

Comparing Palin to Cheney is an insult to Cheney. They are both liars, but Cheney is smart.

Posted by: Di | September 14, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Oh boy!! Another 4 years of lying, distortions, deceptions an secrecy!! Just what America needs.

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 14, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Wait.. LOL.

First... Sarah visited troop in Irag..
When that was debunked, they then said she simply crossed the border by 1/4 mile.

Now that's! Foreign Policy experience we can beleive in.

Posted by: Vance C. McDaniel | September 14, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

What a shock. They're not telling the truth.

Posted by: Truth | September 14, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are such a joke. What is wrong with the people in this country?

Posted by: Kent | September 14, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Tunes59,
Tsk, tsk, tsk, you all are learning well from rove et al. ROTFLMAO@ Senator Obama being half Arab and lying about it. You freakin' people are
L-U-N-A-T-I-C-S! Give it up already; you are making America look bad to the rest of the world. Yes, yes, I understand that you are too freakin' dumb to care what the world thinks but we have to love in this world too. For once, think about someone other than yourself. I am ashamed to tell anyone I am an American right now. I want to find the closet rock and hide under it.

Posted by: LieLieLie | September 14, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:23 PM

its okay, i work with teens, they tend to beleive anyone who enforces a rule is an idiot.

jjchic,

i never said you called me a troll, i was refering to the anonymous message. which is why i didnt say "dont call me a troll jjchic". but once again, like you do with sarah palin, you are choosing to take sentences out of context to prove what you call a point.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

so sarah says she doesn't blink
me thinks it's just that she doesn't think
instead she rages, revs, and claws
repeats stump speech lines through gritted jaws
sarah sarah stay north my friend
cause the lies you utter will get you in the end

Posted by: Tom in Chicago | September 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

To borrow an old Sourdougher's phrase - this Palin woman is "Fool's Gold".

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmt0rLtgmK0

Amazing how the lies will 'out' themselves, or as Forrest Gump said "Stupid is as Stupid does".
Miz Paling and the Alaskan Independence Party, videotaped in the last 18 months, while she was Governor (she calls herself Governor Sarah Palin, so must be within the last 18 months)

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Charlie, I didn't blink
Do I want to be VP?
Let me check my schedule
Let's see
Raise mongoloid until I'm dead
Sure I'm free
Mommy feed me
I wish I was never born
Why did you do this to me

Posted by: AuntyEveryone | September 14, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I am a Religious Right single parent.
My children are old enough to understand politics. They understand that John Mc Cain and Sarah Palin are lying at times. My children ask me when it is ok to lie.
What am I suppose to tell them?
My own pastor won't answer this question for me.
Can a Religious Right parent please give me guidance?

Posted by: John Mc Donald | September 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Once again the Obots show how they can bring issues to the front.

I do not care about race. What I care about is honesty. Obama has lied about his race - He is not black. His father is Arab and his mother is white (factcheck.org). An Arab American has as much right to run for POTUS as anyone else so my question is why would he lie about his race? This is just one of many lies he has told. If we cannot trust him to be honest in simple things how can we trust him with big things?

The honor of John McCain...

http://www.slate.com/id/2188545/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfRwpcFEA0

Obama claims to be the agent of change but what does it say about him when he has voted pretty close to 100 percent in line with fellow Democrats during his brief Senate career? During Obams's time in the Senete the public approval rating for congress has dropped to its lowest point in history. How is it change when you march lock step with a failed congress? With this voting record Mr. Obama has shown that he is just another one of the herd. He is not a leader or visionary when it comes to action.

Posted by: Tunes59 | September 14, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Google You Tube, then site search Palin's Demon haunted Church and find out what kind of religious kook she is.

Posted by: majorteddy | September 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

She's just like Bush . She can't open her mouth without lying and she is totally ignorant of the facts, choosing to go with her gut feeling.

Posted by: THIS JUST IN | September 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

As the days pass, we are learning more and more about the "little fibs" and "half-truths" that are emanating from the Banana Republican's campaign. These people are suffering seriously from TRUTH DECAY.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Where has this women been or done? How can you lie about going to Iraq on National TV? And not be question about it. This woman is sealing my Vote for Barak.If she can not tell the truth, why would I vote for a liar. Washington has enough already, without adding two more.

Posted by: Misglo | September 14, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

So what if she never went into Iraq? Kuwait is *right next to* Iraq! I mean, she was about as close as you can get!

So we can just add that to the growing list of her foreign policy credentials, right?

Posted by: Dan | September 14, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/

At above site is the story of the "Alaskan Women Reject Palin" rally in Anchorage yesterday - the LARGEST political rally ever held in Alaska. Over 1400 people (pictures at above site) versus 90 people who turned out (mostly men with signs re guns and hunting) who were there to support the little lady from little Wasilla. It will be interesting to see if the MSM will pick this story up - we seem to have become more filtered when it comes to news than the Soviet newspaper Pravda was.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

what value does the washington post have if any dumb schmuk can write whatever lies they want and post them on the site?

this thread of comments is worse than useless, it is *harmful*. what we are seeing is that a high fraction of the people CAN NOT differenetiate lies from truths. ... that is why unabashed lies from the far right work!

unmoderated threads like this waste people's effort, waste time, and allow trolls and hacks and sockpuppets to blatantly lie - and have those lies appear right under the news story.

... harmful.

Posted by: WTF | September 14, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I am disabled
I can't get health care
If palin becomes VP
taxpayer money will pay for her childs care
I would assume she has the same conservative stance against health care
What a joke

Posted by: stuckinNEV | September 14, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm just waiting for McCain to come out with the push poll telling people about Obama's black daughters, then his conversion to the dark side of the force will be complete!

Posted by: kurttrail | September 14, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin were required to only speak the truth, without distortion or embellishment, she would be speechless.

Posted by: labman57 | September 14, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign is desperate to change the subject. False controversy takes the emphasis away from a candidate who was so uninspiring that only 20% of his supporters were enthusiastic about him. Tiny crowds of bored people were the norm for McCain. Palin was selected by the same folks who brought us a "compassionate conservative" from Texas, who, like Palin, has turned out to be anything but what they sold.
She brought home more earmarks per person than any other state, 10 times higher rate than Illinois.

Meanwhile, hard working Americans are slipping into the mud in this economy. Our real incomes have dropped while everything costs more. Can you tell me one thing McCain has done to help uninsured Americans get health care? Can you tell me what McCain has done over the last 26 years that will help us transition to a renewable energy economy? McCain agrees that global warming is influenced by the burning of fossil fuels. But you know what his solution is, you heard it at the convention: Drill, Baby, Drill.

Drilling. That was the answer in the 1970's, 1980's, 1990's and most of the first decade of the new century. Don't you think it's time we actually did something different?

Barack Obama authorized incentives for renewable, green energy in this country. Barack Obama authorized a program to help 150,000 people in Illinois get access to affordable healthcare, and he voted to cover uninsured children in the CHIP program. Barack Obama will cut taxes for 95% of American working families, and everyone making less than $250,00 will see large decreases in the taxes they pay across the board: Payroll, income, capital gains taxes, etc. will decrease for hard working people and we will be able to begin to get ahead once more.

McCain voted against healthcare for children. McCain voted against renewable energy. But McCain emphatically supports tax cuts for the wealthiest 1%- the biggest rate cut going to those who make over 2.5 million dollars a year.

Barack Obama will lower taxes for those making less than $250,000 per year to the lowest levels in 50 years. Those making more will be taxed at the same rate they paid in the Reagan years. Senior citizens making less than $50,000 will pay NO TAXES under Barack Obama.

Barack Obama: Lowest tax rates for working families in the last 50 years, affordable healthcare for the uninsured, clean renewable domestic energy.

McCain wants to continue the Bush policies in each of these areas.

And I still haven't heard anyone ask McCain how he plans to pay for continuing Bush's failed policies. Perhaps China still has some money to lend.....

Posted by: okieMom | September 14, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Dale, I'm only 15, idk how old you are but I can tell you're an idiot. I'm 15 and I think YOU are an idiot.

McCain=Bush's third term


OBAMA!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Make damn sure you are registered to vote. Talk to everyone you know. That's only way to stop her and McCain from ramming more of the same down the world's throat and grinding our country into the ground. 4,150 dead US soldiers in Iraq. Do you want more of that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism read up on it. Understand it. This is what you get with McCain/Palin.

There is only one way to end this Neocon nonsense: Vote. Make sure you and everyone you know is registered according to the rules of your State; some have a hard deadline well in advance of the actual Nov. 4 date. This is too important to screw up. Git 'R done people.

State Voter Registration Deadline

Alabama Fri, Oct. 24
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West Virginia Wed, Oct. 15
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Posted by: bitfreak from Digg | September 14, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin = Dick Cheney in a skirt. And Lipstick.

08ama

Posted by: trainman | September 14, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 5:12 AM
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I did not call you a troll, dale -- I called you a pathetic gop hack. Please note the difference.

As I and other posters have noted time and time again, there is ample proof that mayor mccheese and the moose hunter lie nearly every time they open their mouths.

It is of course your right to refuse to concede this and to keep up your juvenile attempts at playing lawyer. At the very least, it's entertaining for the rest of us and, more substantively, it shows up the utter vacuousness of the mccain/palin ticket and gop hacks such as yourself who are paid in mcpoints exchanged for mctrinkets.

But you should be proud. I'm sure you got enough of those mcpoints to earn that moose burger toaster mcoven you've had your eye on. Enjoy.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Get your news from multiple sources.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I would like her a little more if she/they would lie a little less.

I don't like being lied to, especially by my President or Vice-President

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Another thoughtful post by Scott the paid Neo-Conjob. "Folks, folks, ignore the static." He gets paid by the post. Probably by the length too.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 14, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

RCP ELECTORAL MAP 9/14/08

Obama/Biden 207
157 Solid 50 Leaning

McCain/Palin 227
172 Solid 55 Leaning
Toss Up 104
104 Toss Up


State-by-State Changes

Electoral Count RCP National Avg.

09/14 Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up Obama 207 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

09/13 Indiana Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain Obama 217 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

09/11 Florida Toss Up »»» Leaning McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5

09/11 North Carolina Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5

09/11 Georgia Leaning McCain »»» Solid McCain Obama 217 - McCain 216 McCain +2.5


09/14 Minnesota Leaning Obama »»» Toss Up Obama 207 - McCain 227 McCain +2.4

Sunday Sept 14
Minnesota Star Tribune
Obama 45, McCain 45 Tie

Saturday 9/13
Nevada Rasmussen McCain 49, Obama 46 McCain +3

Friday 9/12
Missouri Rasmussen McCain 51, Obama 46
McCain +5
Ohio Univ. of Cinci McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4 Florida Quinnipiac McCain 50, Obama 43 McCain +7
Virginia SurveyUSA McCain 49, Obama 47 McCain +2

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Mike of Atlanta,

Please don't lose faith in the lot of us. I'm a woman (white woman if that matters at all) who has supported Obama from the beginning for the same reasons you have, also because of well - Senator's Clinton's lying problem and I still remember Janet Reno.

At any rate - this election cycle is a national I.Q. test, for everyone but especially for the women of this country. We'll see how they do.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

In the words of Mark Twain, "A lie travels half way around the world while the truth is still putting it's shoes on." Lies are powerful and damaging and by the time they get debunked, if they ever do, the damage has been done. For the FOX news-watching group, the truth never sees the light of day.

Posted by: bobhobard | September 14, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Just vote in November and hopefully we won't have to hear any more of these republican lies.

Every day its a new one, every day there's a new revelation about the swindles, lies, half-truths, innuendo and slander that continually spews from these desperate criminals.

The proof is out there for everyone to see, yet some in this country are so brain dead, so brain washed, that they believe that the repubs are actually patriots. HA! What a joke. They've done NOTHING but steal, lie, and bankrupt this country in every possible way.

Now we have these message board hicks spouting claims which have been PROVEN false again and again. Where's the beef on McCain's economic policy? REZKO! What about the ill-informed statements Palin keeps making about Russia and the Middle East? OBAMA HUSSEIN! What about the tax breaks for the top 1% of the super rich or the lies that keep cropping up in McCains campaign ads? AYERS!

Please, America, just vote in November. There are more true patriots in this country than the sniveling cowards who lick at the feet of the corrupt liars.

Just vote.

Posted by: Winston Smith | September 14, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

its very good project.

http://www.dir.vg

Posted by: dir | September 14, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

All we are doing is electing a VP. We do not need to ask questions. We have to adopt the McCain approach and accept her just for who she is.

Posted by: Kwaku Azar | September 14, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Clinton's Former Chief Strategist on Palin and the Media-

CBS News 9/12/08

CBSNews.com: So you think the media is being uniquely tough on Palin now?

Mark Penn: Well, I think that the media is doing the kinds of stories on Palin that they're not doing on the other candidates. And that's going to subject them to people concluding that they're giving her a tougher time. Now, the media defense would be, "Yeah, we looked at these other candidates who have been in public life at an earlier time."

What happened here very clearly is that the controversy over Palin led to 37 million Americans tuning into a vice-presidential speech, something that is unprecedented, because they wanted to see for themselves. This is an election in which the voters are going to decide for themselves. The media has lost credibility with them.
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Keep it up- the Independents are watching-

September 9, 2008
McCain Now Winning Majority of IndependentsMajority of independents now prefer him over Obama, 52% to 37%USA Democrats Election 2008 Government and Politics Republicans Americas Northern America by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain's 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.


By contrast, Democrats' support for McCain rose 5 percentage points over the GOP convention period, from 9% to 14%, while Republicans' already-high support stayed about the same.

The surge in political independents who favor McCain for president marks the first time since Gallup began tracking voters' general-election preferences in March that a majority of independents have sided with either of the two major-party candidates. Prior to now, McCain had received no better than 48% of the independent vote and Obama no better than 46%, making the race for the political middle highly competitive.


Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

jjchic, i expected more out of you than denial, oh well.

as for the "troll" comment, you can find my comments on many other post articles and various liberal woohah, i make an effort to allow people to find facts instead of mindless rabble and slander.

you wont find me changing my name anytime and i will be posting on various slanderous articles on here well up until the election.

so long as the slander and idiocy broils ill be here making sure independents are not swayed by hogwash and lies :).

perhaps if you really supported obama you would take me up on my suggestion and start a case in his favor.

but of course, since when has any democrat put themselves on the line for another person.

goodnight, perhaps ill see you again.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 5:12 AM | Report abuse

dale is a troll. if everyone was pro-mccain, he would be pro-obama. he just wants attention (mommy issues etc.)
dont give it to him.
you cannot tell a troll by their name but by their behavior, as they tend to change their names once called out.
you spot a troll by the following the trail of drivel they leave behind. comments like "good people dont make good leaders" and "jesus wants us to kill brown people."
if you ignore them they go away.
if you "feed" them they just get louder and more ridiculous.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 4:53 AM
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Just what in god's name are you talking about here, you drunken lunatic?

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 4:55 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 4:52 AM
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meant to refer to Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 4:43 AM in this post

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 4:53 AM | Report abuse

"I've proved you wrong several times over, although you do an even better job of it yourself."

btw, just thought ud like to know, i caught you again taking something i said, and trying to use it against me, AFTER claiming that that logic was stupid. :)

well guess what "im rubber you're glue whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you" has just been reinforced as the democratic motto.

thanks to jjchic.

anyways, id just like you to know that you have been caught for the third time doing what obama does, then denying that obama does it, because it sounds so absurd :).

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 4:53 AM | Report abuse

If william ayers did what all the neo con talkshows said he did why is he still out on the loose? Bush should catch him, and say mission accomplished.

Posted by: brock101 | September 14, 2008 4:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Mark O | September 14, 2008 4:32 AM
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Sweet jesus, dale. You've just jumped the shark and gone full out bat batsh!t insane, haven't you? Do you understand the difference between civil and criminal law?

Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Care to provide any proof of your own that Obama, this paper and commenters here are in danger of being dragged into court?

Wow. You've gone completely off the rails, man. But, again, you're doing a great service by showing just how ca-razy you gop hacks are.

Well done.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 4:52 AM | Report abuse

Attention all neo con wannabes stop repeating what you hear on the radio, and fox news. 9.5 times out of 10 you will be repeating a lie.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:47 AM | Report abuse

and just to clarify, it is necessary to prove lies via court.

why?

because defaming a persons character is slander, doing it in writing is called libel. doing it in a position of authority is negligence, and doing it when it can affect the life and death of a person (for example a soldier) is considered gross negligence.

these are all crimes commited by obama, this newspaper, and unless there is something in the terms of comments on this site, each person who claims mccain has lied in this campaign.

im asking you to prove obama's claims correct, because obama in court has the burden of proof.

since obama has not yet done anything that could be seen as "damaging" to mccain or the american people by his actions (as he has neither submitted a lawsuit or taken the presidency) he is not yet able to be sued for slander, or libel, or negligence or gross negligence.

this is why the democratic party has yet to make a lawsuit against mccain, should it begin a lawsuit, they would be in a situation where they had directly done something that cost mccain a visible amount of money (court) and as a result could be countersued, in which case they would have to prove thier case or face jailtime.

thats a situation no one wants to be in, so baseless claims continue to be lodged by the media and obamas camp.

cus as we all know, obamessiah never lies. he just "frames" the truth (and apparently mccain).

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 4:43 AM | Report abuse

Well, dale, at least the GOP know that if they're lucky enough to have someone the quality of Pamela Anderson on their side, best put her on the ticket.

Posted by: Bill H. | September 14, 2008 4:40 AM | Report abuse

Oh jeez, dale. The crazier you get, the more entertaining you are.

I've proved you wrong several times over, although you do an even better job of it yourself. There not really any need to do so yet again.

A word of advice: you'd be better served by just keeping your mutterings to your imaginary sockpuppet friends at this point. I'm sure they think you're very convincing...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 4:40 AM | Report abuse

"Americans are starting to wonder, is there anything the McCain campaign isn't lying about?"

That statement from the Obama campaign just about sums it up. I imagine there will be a point at which the voters will say "enough." The media is starting to reach that point. Maybe the Obama team can outsource some of their research to the Daily Show. They always do a good job of highlighting the hypocrisy of The GOP and fellow travelers.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086

Posted by: Mark O | September 14, 2008 4:32 AM | Report abuse

if im so stupid please prove me wrong ;)

ive been asking all day. your still quoting news articles. and proving complete and utter idiocy while you do it.

the purpose of language is to make a point, and i quite obviously made one without even spelling things correctly, in many cases that would mean i have a deeper comprehension and understanding.

of course since the media has yet to expose that shocker about intelligence im sure you would know nothing about it.

like i said, i started your case, go ahead.

btw, you have to check presidents ;) (that ones for you) by state, and in some states even by county and town.

as obama has a team of over 500 lawyers who have been combing these presidents for anything binding to attack mccain with for the past 5 days (at least) im sure you will find an answer quicker, because you obviously have a much grander ego to base your facts off of :).

john here says if you post one more news article for proof hes gonna vote mccain, but i have faith in you :).

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 4:29 AM | Report abuse

I understand presidents quite well, thank you. It is however obvious that you have no comprehension of precedents, nor the aforementioned 'docterns.'

As is evidenced quite aptly by your pathetic ruminations, it does not take a court of law to demonstrate that someone is lying through their teeth.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 4:11 AM | Report abuse

Here is something local on Palin's earmarks, taken from the Anchorage Press, a free but still decent weekly paper.
http://www.anchoragepress.com/site/basicarticle.asp?ID=824
Evidently the $27 million supposedly garnered by Wasilla includes money that actually went to the railroad and not Wasilla at all, money to improve the rail connection from Girdwood to ANCHORAGE to Wasilla. (Note that big one there in the middle.) The Anchorage Assembly is set to vote on whether to support one of the two "Bridges to Nowhere", the one across the Knik Arm (pronounce both Ks) that would cut an hour off a major daily commute but would be a formidible engineering project and prohibitively expensive.

Posted by: lemonfemale | September 14, 2008 4:10 AM | Report abuse

jjchic, your obviously having trouble weening from liberal media breast milk.

so ill help you start your case.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie

you will find the various definitions of a lie there, you may start trying to prove that a lie exists in the mccain campaign by then going to ANY liberal website and jotting down the list to prove one way or another.

after that, you may want to browse legal definitions, common ways that trials are run, and the difference between circumstantial evidence and proof.

once you've done that (which should narrow your list down to about 2 instances with any remote validity). you can take a little time to browse historical cases, and presidents that compare (thier are quite a great deal of "slander" and "libel" cases which are the most common legal terms for lies).

if you have anything left to critique at this point assuming you understood the presidents and the specific realities involved therein. i would suggest sending it to obamas campaign IMMEDIATELY. as you would be the first person including constitutional lawyers like obama and democrats working around the clock with law degrees to have found a valid case against john mccain for lying.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 4:07 AM | Report abuse

Jesus, dale. Put down the bourbon or whatever it is you're getting twisted on. You're becoming more incoherent and irrelevant by the minute.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 4:03 AM | Report abuse

How can you lie about something you never said. On her abc interview she said she had been to Kuwait, Germany, Mexico and Canada. On her speech on accepting the vp she also said she had been to Kuwait. When did she lie. Some spokesperson got confused and that equates to lies. You may be convincing yourselves this means something but really it comes across as very stupid. They're lying about crowd size seems insignificant . If the size of the crowd is so important to Obama it does make it seem he is all about ego and not about helping this country

Posted by: slownewsday | September 14, 2008 4:03 AM | Report abuse

rofl, jjchic, do i need to define news for you?

come on, you can do better, not even democrats are normally this dumb.

(course with oprah and pamela anderson on your side you gotta wonder)

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 3:58 AM | Report abuse

Tell your friends in swing states to check out

http://www.therealmccain.com

Knowledge is power!

Posted by: moehlis | September 14, 2008 3:57 AM | Report abuse

kim wrote on September 13, 2008 1:36 PM
“Its true. I am sick of these kind of reports which are baseless and lack substance.
We know who McCain and Palin are and we will vote them into Oval office.
This is regardless of what MSM or who ever has to say and what ever they blabber.”

stacy wrote on September 13, 2008 1:34 PM
“Why is that media lie about McCain and Palin?
Why is that Obama lie all the times he has a mike in his hand? He does not have a record. He disrespects everything and everyone other than his anti-american wife, radical friends and anti-social elements.
We no longer trust the repoters or reports. We just believe that McCain and Palin are the real heros and true americans. We believe McCain and Palin are the Mavricks. We believe McCain and palin can protect us from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists.
God bless america.”


Here are typical (and scary) statements of brainwashed McPalin supporters. We don’t believe in facts, we just believe in them. Might I ask whence came this absolutely and unshakeable faith? Is it just a mystery? How are you so sure that they are the real heros? Reformers? Mavericks?

These statements read like a profession of faith, especially taking into account the use of the “we”, like it is a cult group. Just a brief consideration of who it is supporting McPalin should be enough to make peoples’ stomachs turn and vote Democrat in November. Please, people, get serious and consider the welfare and interests of our nation, our children, childrens’ children, and so on.

Posted by: Mark Gillis | September 14, 2008 3:56 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:40 AM

keep em coming, you just also proved that obama is able to take an arguement started by mccain, and run it affectively for the liberal masses.

by first claiming that prove was determined by what you claim to be "common knowledge" and then ignoring statements i make first hand.

you have officially proven that a person CAN delude themselves into believing that the media puts a MORE TRUTHFUL spin on things than things like, videos, judiciary procedure, and evidence (according to the legal definition).

theres 2 more convinced to join mccain, its funny i didnt even ask you to, they were just saying "no one can delude themselves that much".

thanks :).

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

Hey, dale. Here's one for ya from that commie pinko rag, the Army Times:

"McCain on FCS: Flip-flop or fib?"
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/defense_mccain_FCS_091208/

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:52 AM | Report abuse

More lies - from Palin's latest jaunt down into the lower 48. She reiterated her false bridge to nowhere claim and then ...

"Nevada Lt. Gov. Brian Krolicki said on stage that 10,000 people were in the crowd, but parks officials said the pavilion held only 3,500 people."

It is getting out of hand

Posted by: Tyler | September 14, 2008 3:45 AM | Report abuse

I remember hearing that Palin had been in Iraq but, come to think of it, when she spoke to troops about to be deployed to Iraq (Fairbanks, 9/11 this year) she spoke of visiting the troops IN KUWAIT, not mentioning any visit to Iraq. I had heard someone say she had visited Iraq and had not read it myself. It might be that someone saw the video of her visiting troops and thought that all of the troops would have been in Iraq proper. She did visit the troops we have deployed in the general area because they include a fair number of Alaskans and she was governor.
This is nothing like being under sniper fire in Bosnia, for which I will give Hillary a pass BTW because memory can play tricks on you, including vivid memories of something that cannot be.

Posted by: lemonfemale | September 14, 2008 3:44 AM | Report abuse

Since I can see the moon from my driveway I demand to be selected head of NASA. If I don't get what I want, it's coz of lib'rul elitist bias...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:43 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 3:31 AM
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Jeez, dale -- project much?

Care to provide any proof of your claims, dale? Of course not -- they're transparently made up, and badly done.

"...their parties ignorance..." --- which parties are you referring to?

Who are these people who you vetted my claims with? Your imaginary sockpuppet friends?

No one believes you, you pathetic hack.

My god, you are amusing though.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:40 AM | Report abuse

I find McCain deeply offensive and horrifically frightening. What I would say is insane about his personality, he would call being a "maverick". America needs to wake up. McCain is putting a woman who is at most fit to be vice president of the Martha Stewart fan club in the international spotlight. He is spinning lies about her, and for some reason beyond me, a lot of people appear fascinated!!! Lets reserve our fascination regarding Mrs. Palin till AFTER the election. Right now, we should be talking about McCain, his appalling choices, and the fact that if elected, he will only deepen the hole we are in. Should he die while in office, well,lets just prevent that from happening. Vote Obama!

My goodness, how very crass and stupid we are appearing to the rest of the world. I would like to think as a nation we are more intelligent than McCain thinks (thus far his actions prove to me that he has a low opinion of the collective intelligence of the American people) and that we will send him home and his ice fishing side kick way back up north where she can enjoy her wonderful view of Russia.

WAKE UP AMERICA! STOP THE MADNESS!

Posted by: Lisa de simone | September 14, 2008 3:39 AM | Report abuse

i have nothing to prove jj, you proved my point quite well in fact, i had 7 people read your defense of proof and in complete shame for their parties ignorance said they cant vote for obama. 2 said they would vote mccain.

its disappointing to see "vik" from wherever, claiming as if he knows anything.

i love how obamaniacs love to say as LITTLE AS POSSIBLE so as not to be proven wrong, but not have to back up thier claims with proof.

keep it up jj :) ur on a roll, converting to republican votes by the minute :).

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 3:31 AM | Report abuse

Oh, dale hasn't given up. has he? He's only a few mcpoints away from that nifty new toaster oven...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:24 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Vik | September 14, 2008 3:14 AM
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Nicely constructed and concise list of the mayor mccheese/moose hunter latest lies. Only a matter of time before dale calls you biased and dismisses you...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:19 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 3:11 AM
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And of course the poster boy for demanding proof of mccain's and palin's well documented lies provides no evidence or proof to substantiate his false claims.

Anyone surprised by that...?

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:16 AM | Report abuse

I think the McCain camp has played this hand too far. They are starting to get called out on it. It was a dangerous game and will now cost them. The list is just too long and non-aligned sources like factcheck.org are calling them out: Palin's Bridge to Nowhere support, Palin's travel abroad, Palin's earmarks, calling Obama's support for teaching 5 year olds to report abuse comprehensive sex ed, claiming he called Palin a pig on the common "lipstick on a pig" phrase that even McCain has used, claiming Obama will raise taxes on the middle class when all experts have said the plan calls for cuts to that group, saying Obama voted against immigrants when McCain voted for the same bills, etc. Just stupid in addition to being wrong.

Posted by: Vik | September 14, 2008 3:14 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:02 AM

the REZKO STORY IS NOT LAID TO REST.

obama lied 4 times, quoting his contributions as 60k then 80k then 120k then 250k, he then proceeded to donate only 80k to charity when he promised to donate every last cent donated by rezko to charity.

then during the presidential campaign he began using online deposits to receive money from anyone, after being named the nominee for the democrats rezko received 3mil from an islamic extremist that was "gone" before anyone could confront it.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 3:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:01 AM
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This is actually posted by dale.

I did no such thing. Again, this sleazebot is either so delusional as to believe the tripe he spouts or, alternatively, he is cognizant of the bs nature of his rants but thinks the rest of us are stupid enough to believe it...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:09 AM | Report abuse

we know who mccain is married to - a rich pretty woman who stole drugs from her own charity and was a drug addict. and mccain, he is losing it bigtime..mentally. of course, after being broken by the viet cong, i bet he has never been the same. he was never the brightest light bulb, he was 5th from the bottomm of his class in college and obama was editor of the harvard law school paper. it just shows you that the robotic right wingers can only follow liars and addicts and disrespect intelligence and grit and someone who got farther than they did. then there are the dems who see reality no matter what economic place they come from or what education they have. they seek truth and reality. i cannot believe the losers who think mccain is honest and who think that because the surge worked he is ok. IF THERE WAS NO WAR there wouldn't have had to be a surge. how many of the true belivers would walk around Iraq today unprotected???? any of you.

Posted by: karind1 | September 14, 2008 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 2:53 AM
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Dale again shows his delusional thinking. It is not in fact illegal to lie to the public, otherwise the current occupant of 1600 Penn Ave would have been frog marched out of there long ago.

It's of course certainly possible dale knows he's spewing bs and is only trying to work up to a nifty toaster oven in the mccain/palin cut and paste mcpoint scam for posting to sites and blogs. The other possibility is that he is suffering from an advanced case of accute gop kol aid poisoning...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

TJUSTSAYING, your nauseating lies, like those of your hero mcgeezer and his moose hunter dimwit, are so transparent, as transparent as mcgeezer's wispy comb over. but you know that. all mcbomb trolls know that they are lying. that's what rethugs do. you bring up rezco, a story laid to rest months ago, that showed no wrong-doing by obama, but still you persist in your scummy lies. you want to mislead and distract from the no-ideas campaign being run by mcbomb and his new bff, karl rove. rethugs have brought his nation to its knees, and no amount of spinning, lying, sliming, on your part, you weasel, is going to change that. mcbomb ought forever to be remembered as the senile corrupt old coot who committed treason by selecting a candidate for v.p. who hasn't the experience to run the night shift at a duncan donuts. this isn't games, knucklehead, this is about putting somebody in CHARGE thinks that living in alaska gives her expertise into russia, for christ sakes. by supporting these two clowns, i suggest that you're no better than they are.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:02 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 2:51 AM

this guy tried to convince me that i can get out of jail by bringing articles from times and washington post that say im innocent.

see the debate in the previous comments its a good one, republicans laugh, democrats feel ashamed, this is what your party has become.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Politicians who lie to the public is engaging in a Betrayal of the Public Trust and it should be deemed unethical.

its not just unethical, its illegal my friend, and if there was one bit of documented proof, mccain would be in jail.

however as we have seen, obama himself doesnt even have the tenacity to try and propell his smear of john mccains character beyond teh pages of the times and WAPO and MSM.

its ironic that when someone is lying, they tend to be reclusive.

mccain hasnt lied once, obama has, hes being a recluse, and hes being sued for it.

mccain has no lawsuits against him.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 2:53 AM | Report abuse

GOP hacks like Dale are impervious to logic or reasoned debate. They will never admit any fault or deception on the part of mccain or palin no matter what. They will accuse anyone who doesn't blindly toe the gop party line of bias and they will show the rest of us their intellectual and ethical bankruptcy with every utterance that escapes their twisted lips.

Pity them but do not accommodate them.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

You can watch the SNL Palin/Clinton clip in my blog:

http://www.mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Was very funny, I thought.

Posted by: DCfred | September 14, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

what's all this "revisions" b.s. they're flat out effing lying. that's all that this filthy campaign has been able to do since day one. they lie, lie, and lie. mcliar and the moose hunter are the same as criminal bush cartel. they do whatever the hell they want and then just lie to us in our faces. mcgeezer and his nitwit granddaughter keep spitting in our faces.

palin/mccain 08: no ideas, just lies, smears, and distraction.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Politicians who lie to the public is engaging in a Betrayal of the Public Trust and it should be deemed unethical. Exposing John McCain’s Lies — Pass it on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Are we finally pulling back the Curtin on the Wizards?

Ground Zero is a Symbol of Republicans' failed policies, that after 7 years Ground Zero is still a hole, still zero! Nothing from nothing leaves nothing and that is not Change we can believe in!

Posted by: Angellight | September 14, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

The Truth Matters to Me

Almost every major media outlet, from the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, CBS News, MSNBC ABC and others have pointed out the inconsistencies in several of Governor Sarah Palin’s claims repeated at campaign stops. Republicans paint a picture of her as being a maverick, get-it-done reformer who has been tough on government waste and even harder on corruption. Because of this image Palin seems to be as big of a crowd pleaser as Barack Obama. Women, mothers, Christians and middle America seem to love her.

But slowly, through thorough investigations, we are learning, bit by bit, that the charming stranger we’ve been introduced to might just have a major character flaw.

She is not telling us the truth.

Jay Bookman writes in the Atlanta Journal Constitution:

“The American people are watching her repeatedly lie to them, day after day, and watching her do so with no apparent compunction. This is her introduction to the national scene; this is when her image is being cemented into the public mind. And her image is increasingly that of a guiltless liar.”

Either Palin suffers from memory loss, she is an habitual liar not aware that her statements from the podium don’t jive with reality, or she has purposefully embarked on a campaign to mislead the public just long enough to beguile us with her beauty contestant’s charm until after winning the election in November.

Either way it appears Mrs. Palin is trying to deceive the public.

Are her deceptions a part of a short term winning strategy or long term pathology?

Many observers are scratching their heads. No politician in recent memory has so blatantly spoke untruths to the America people. Palin’s deceptions are jaw-dropping jarring to many of us. The closest thing I can compare it to is the shock and disbelief we all experienced watching jet planes fly into the World Trade Center. We saw it. We heard it. But, we did not believe it was happening. It just didn’t make any sense and did not fit into our notion of an ordered and safe universe.

Neither does Palin’s claims which contradict public record. We are left befuddled, wondering what kind of strategy is this. Do elections, politics, democracy, the universe make any sense at all?

If nothing else, at the bed rock of our democracy is the principle that truth trumps all.

“We hold these truths to be self evident…”

Palin’s political base is said to be the Christian Right. Disagreements abound in the Christian church but central to the message of Christ is a liberating “truth.”

“The truth shall set you free,” Christ is said to have proclaimed.

Our very system of laws is based on an objective truth. Without truth we are a lawless society.

Without a clear and objective truth,” we the people,” has no meaning. A common reality matters when people come together to iron out their differences, when people make decisions that affect their lives, their families, their futures. We may make mistakes in judgment but we want generations to look back and say we made the right decisions based on the truth as we saw it then.

Any politician’s blatant disregard of the truth is a threat not only to the political process but a threat to democracy as we know it. Tyrants and dictators lie to their people. Elected representatives may, once, but it should be the duty of the people to vote and show them that yes, the truth matters. Isn’t that what we held Bill Clinton’s feet to the fire for?

Run for office if you like, Governor Palin. Win, if that’s what the people want.

But if God, the American flag and we the people mean anything to you, tell us the truth, and nothing but the truth.

The truth matters to us.

www.codywilliams.com

Posted by: tw | September 14, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Wow! I just finished reading the Times article about Palin, even if half of it is true I think maybe Chaffee was correct, a "cocky wacko"!

And here I thought the Bush/Cheny White House was bad, she'll make them look like pikers.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 14, 2008 2:34 AM | Report abuse

Will the American public care about the constant lies from the McCain camp?

In general, the news media always allows two people to talk even if one is stating an absolute lie. Why?

USA NEWS: Is black white? We'll hear 2 views after this!

Posted by: fed up | September 14, 2008 2:29 AM | Report abuse

wes, you need to get your head oout of the liberal forecast.

the reason mccain said that was because obama is on the warpath claiming that mccain wont stick to issues...when he suggested the only plausible issues focused method ever proposed in a campaign situation.

mccain looks to teh future, while obama looks at his distorted view of history. he wouldnt even admit the surge worked until going to iraq and being forced to see the facts figures and reality on the soldiers faces.

he called teh surge progression a lie, then he was proven wrong by teh soldiers.

he calls mccain/palin a lie, perhaps we should get the soldiers to prove him wrong again.

do we really want a president focused on the past? saying "look how much better im doing than bush"

come ON. why not just elect a retarded chimpanzee.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Is Anyone Missing this. The reason why he is spreading these lies is because Obama refuse to show up to town hall meeting with, he mentioned it yesturday too. Hmmmmm. Okay, so McCain is holding that against Obama. Wow. Never realized he is so Petty and Vengeful. Why ain't anyone knocking McCain for this stupid small minded excuse, he looks like a fool to me.

Posted by: Wes | September 14, 2008 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:48 AM

so you will vote for the least maverick candidate in over a century? someone so far left that they rival strom thurmon for most far from center.

thats the logic of a democrat, not an independent ur robbing ur party ;)

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 2:03 AM | Report abuse

"The 2008 version of the "Beverly Hillbillies". (In HDTV)

Come 'n listen to my story 'bout a family named Palin
A cute politician, got the GOP a wailin"
And then one day, she was shootin' at some food (moose)
And up through the ground come some troublin news
McCain, that is, short and old, more of the SAME, Bush term number three

Well, the first thing you know, old McSame’s under a glare
The smart folks said, “Sarah, you don’t want to go there”
Said, Wash DC, is the place you ought not be
People loaded up the WEB with facts and hyperbole
Newzz, that is, camera crews, MSM stars.

Well, now it's time to say goodbye to Sarah and all her kin
They would like to thank you folks for kindly droppin' in
You're all invited back again to her locality
To have a heapin' helpin' of the Palin hospitality
Hillbilly, that is, set a spell, take your shoes off
Ya"ll don"t stay too long now, YA HEAR!!!!!

Posted by: Lame McSame | September 14, 2008 2:02 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TJustSaying | September 14, 2008 1:47 AM

he may not have as strong a pull on them as before, but anyone who understands elections knows that people follow their history in office.

a few of my reagan democrat friends are sticking with him because obama is the worst fiscal conservative in history, so i doubt reagan democrats will be able to hold out as they understand his economic policies in the debates.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 1:55 AM | Report abuse

that simply proves u should be registered as a democrat, if your independence has no sway towards mccain in this election, u need to ask yourself if calling urself independent is fair.

Posted by: dale

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Sorry to disappoint you dale, but mccain did everything he could possibly do to throw my vote away. Sucking up to Bush, sucking up to Dodson and then his most cynical act, selecting someone who is totally unqualified to be VP and certainly not president. Hey, Bush was a governor way longer than palin and look what that got you? Or maybe you're one of those who think Bush has done a fine job?

So much for executive experience. By that measure palin is more qualified to be president than mccain is.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: SteveinPortland | September 14, 2008 1:21 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


I doubt it. McMaverick lost that title for good the second he hired on Karl Rove's men. When he put the Bush White House on his campaign staff he said by by to those Independents and Reagan Democrats. He starting changing his positions faster then Hussein Bolt.

McCain 2000 is seen on TV talking about the lies and distortions the Bush campaign in putting out, that same 2000 McCain would be on TV talking about all the lies and distortions McCain 2008 is putting out.

But for all those Independents and Reagon Democrats who miss him here is the old 2000 McCain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHoXkCprdL4

Posted by: TJustSaying | September 14, 2008 1:47 AM | Report abuse

What was it about Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky that infuriated the Evangelicals so much? Was it the lying? Lying, we all should agree, is bad. But even the staunchest McCain/Palin supporters have to concede their candidates have been, well, lying a lot lately. (Or maybe every single member of the press is lying, but not McCain/Palin?)
Or was it the extra-marital sex? That's bad too. But is it worse than pre-marital sex? Judging by the Evangelicals total dismissal of poor Bristol's pregnant state, I'm guessing it is. But is that what the Bible says or is it just what they say so they can rationalize their staunchly Pro-Life candidate?
Nothing has exposed the hypocrisy of the Religious Right more nakedly than this pick of Sarah Palin. She has forced an entire movement to commit double-speak on every social issue they attack on, including sexism, premarital sex, honesty and loving your enemy as yourself.
I used to be one of you and I am so glad I am not anymore. The sad thing is: If Jesus ran for president of the United States, in the Republican party, I don't think he'd win a single vote. Only Democrats would vote for a guy who gives fish and bread (food stamps) to the poor, who heals the sick free of charge (universal health care) and who destroys the markets (market regulation) for operating on the Sabbath, and who defends a prostitute from the persecution of the Saducees and the Pharisees.
Republicans, you might pray to Jesus, but you'd never, ever vote for such a wimp, would you?

Posted by: silasporter | September 14, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

Listen Republicans, even Republican sources, basically your buddies are claiming McCain's ads are false. Your buddies are secretly wondering why in the world McCain picked Palin. Oh but wait maybe the liberal media bought them off. And that same liberal media is giving
Palin all that great coverage even though it does not seem to be hurting McCain in the polls.

It would seem to me if the media was in the tank for Obama they could start by stop saying how great a pick Palin was for McCain. They could also interview former Palin employees one by one and get to who the real Palin is.

Hey why don't you write them a letter and remind them they are doing a piss poor job of helping out their buddy Obama.

Sir this is no liberal media but rather McCain's own mistakes that has brought all this attention to Sarah. Had he actually interviewed her associates and friends he could have saved the campaign alot of head ache. Had he picked on of the Female Republican Congress women or even Condaliza Rice he would not be getting these questions.

So no it is not the liberal media but McCain's lack of judgment trying to pick a young attractive woman with at best questionable experience when his whole damn campaign to this point has been about "experience to lead" you would think Senator McWonder would have picked someone that fit that theme.

But he chooses not option A,B,C,D, or even E but instead creates a new letter of the alphabet and choose option Beta. Not tested, full of risk, roll the dice McCain.
And we are seeing the results of the dice roll played out here in real life. And this is the guy who would be President of us all????

Instead of picking a nominee that would fit his campaign message; 2 months before election he changes it to CHANGE, basically attempting to steeling Obama's message. Well now I know why they called him McNasty. Well Obama has got 2 years experience with that message good luck trying to snatch it from under his nose.

Posted by: Katy7540 | September 13, 2008 1:53 PM

thats because omitting facts in order to "frame the truth" is not seen as a lie.

but where is his announcing that his middle name is hussein? especially if its "not a big deal" why does he have to "frame" it from the american public.

where is his announcment that he is being sued because he cannot prove he was born in america (as is demanded for a president in the constitution he claims to uphold).

where is his announcement that although he has huge african american support he IS NOT an african american. he is actually documented as an arab american. (in fact hes less than 3% african negro (thats the terminology dont call me racist)).

YES, OBAMA DOESNT LIE, HE JUST "FRAMES".

MAKES YOU WONDER IF HES "FRAMING" MCCAIN.

if he isnt, you gotta wonder why he isnt seeking legal action against campaign lies.

oh wait, maybe its because he has no case.

(also, obama does lie, during his run for the senate he accepted 250k from rezko the guy he "has no relationship with" then lied 4 times about it saying he only received 60k 80k 120k and then finally 250k, then after promising to repay it, and making over 600million dollars, he still has yet to pay back more than 80k.>>>>>

Posted by: TJustSaying | September 14, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Well for what it is worth McCain and Palin have zero appeal to this independent. So based on a sample of one maybe you shouldn't start celebrating just yet.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:24 AM

that simply proves u should be registered as a democrat, if your independence has no sway towards mccain in this election, u need to ask yourself if calling urself independent is fair.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Scott, the paid Neo-Conjob poster is back! Gee, we all missed you! How much have you earned from the McCain campaign so far?

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 14, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: txgall | September 14, 2008 1:10 AM

precisely my point, had she lied she would be fired immediately, but there is NO CASE in any report that exists online that suggests any of this...so, she remains and she still leads obama in the polls and the WAPO shows its liberal colors.

and obama proves hes not running a new kind of politics.

everybody wins! ...oh wait, cept obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Oh and to the guy who listed all the American accomplishments in Iraq: I'm not sure what your point is, but the longer the list of feats in Iraq, the more I oppose our presence there. Are you aware of the $79 billion the Iraqi government invested into U.S. banks while we send $10 billion per month over there destroying buildings, roads, etc and then building them back up again. Considering the condition of some of our own infrastructure (Minneapolis-St. Paul bridge) that seems to be a monumental waste of American taxpayers' dollars. And yet you seem to think that the Iraqi shopping list is some kind of American feat of humanitarianism and therefore a justification of our presence there--despite the $10 billion per month rent we're paying.
I'm all for helping out other countries--so long as we help ourselves out first. Seriously, if you want to pursue humanitarian efforts, we could go to Sudan or anywhere.
Think, dude. Think.

Posted by: silasporter | September 14, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

"I am so glad that Independents and undecideds are choosing McCain/Palin. She appeals to Republicans, Independents and Reagan Democrats."

Posted by: SteveinPortland

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Well for what it is worth McCain and Palin have zero appeal to this independent. So based on a sample of one maybe you shouldn't start celebrating just yet.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

We know by now that McCain/Palin supporters will refuse to believe ANYTHING negative about Palin or McCain and will instead, shoot the messenger for reporting it. But I hope, I hope for our country's sake that this country still has enough independent and swing-voters who will read this stuff and realize that Palin doesn't belong in any office, let alone the Vice Presidential spot in the White House. Read the New York Times A1 story from today. It will send shivers down your spine to think somebody like this is a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Posted by: silasporter | September 14, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

I am so glad that Independents and undecideds are choosing McCain/Palin. She appeals to Republicans, Independents and Reagan Democrats. They are surging in the polls and not only is looking good for McCain/Palin, it looks like the congress is up for grabs too.

Posted by: SteveinPortland | September 14, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

As a former HR personnel analysts, I was required to disqualify all applicants who lied about their professional experience. It is standard HR policy of businesses, small and large, and the government, to disqualify all and any applicants who lie about their professional experience.

If lies are discovered after an applicant is hired, the employee is immediately fired. I've worked for the federal government in Washington DC, government in California, private corporations, and law firms--all require the immediate termination of any employee found to have lied about their professional experience.

Posted by: txgall | September 14, 2008 1:10 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: shirley | September 14, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

My GOD all this woman does is lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie. And it turns out that she was a raving lunatic as governor. I know people that vote for her hate liberals but i didn't realize they so hated our Nation.

Posted by: Scy | September 14, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Did you know that 47 countries' have reestablished their embassies in Iraq ?

Did you know that the Iraqi government
currently employs 1.2 million Iraqi people?

Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated,364 schools are under rehabilitation, 263 new schools are now under construction; and 38 new schools have been completed in Iraq ?

Did you know that Iraq 's higher educational structure consists of 20 Universities, 46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers, all currently operating?

Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed for the United States in
January 2005 for the re-established Fulbright program?

Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is operational? They have 5 - 100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels and a naval infantry regiment.

Did you know that Iraq ' s Air Force consists of three operational squadrons,
Which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft (under Iraqi operational control) which operate day and night,and will soon add 16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 Bell Jet Rangers?

Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist unit and a Commando Battalion?

Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000 fully trained and equipped police officers?

Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq that produce over 3500 new officers every 8 weeks?

Did you know there are more than 1100 building projects going on in Iraq ?

They include 364 schools, 67 public clinics, 15 hospitals, 83 railroad stations, 22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities and 69 electrical facilities.

Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5 have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations?

Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were enrolled in primary school by mid October?

Did you know that there are 1,192,000 cell phone subscribers in Iraq and phone use has gone up 158%?

Did you know that Iraq has an independent media that consists of 75 radio stations, 180 newspapers and 10 television stations?

Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange opened in June of 2004?

Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi presidential election had a
televised debate recently?

OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!

WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?

BECAUSE OUR MEDIA WON'T TELL US!

The surge is working. These are numbers from even before the surge.

Middle East will be a more stable region as a result and Al Qaeda is on the run.

The Washington Post, NY Times and CNN want Obama so bad they have lost whatever balances they once had. (which was slim to begin with)

Thank goodness it looks like McCain Palin will win.

Posted by: SteveinPortland | September 14, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

I am so glad that Independents and undecideds are choosing McCain/Palin. She appeals to Republicans, Independents and Reagan Democrats. They are surging in the polls and not only is looking good for McCain/Palin, it looks like the congress is up for grabs too.

Posted by: SteveinPortland | September 14, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

The next sound you hear will be Palin's bubble bursting.

I think it's nice, though, that the republicans have had an uplifting week or two.

Everybody deserves an uplifting week or two once in a while.

Posted by: binkynh | September 14, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

So Palin only went to the border of Iraq and she wasn't even a US Senator or a Congressman? Let's see, Obama kept repeating what his handlers told him to say against the war in Iraq, but never went there until recently after being goaded by McCain. Obama finally admitted, after months and months of never going to Iraq, that he was wrong and the "surge" actually worked as stated by McCain?

Obama is the most unqualified candidate for President since Bill Clinton, who was only a Governor from Arkansas. Obama has accomplished nothing in his career but attend elite eastern universities, write two autobiographies and serve as an unsuccessful community organizier and activist in the corrupt Chicago political machine. The same one where the current Mayor's father stole the election for John Kennedy from Richrad Nixon, who by the way never yelled "you cheated!" like the Democrats did and will again.

You will know when the Democrats know they will lose. There will be hundreds of lawyers sent to the battleground states to get ready to sue and cry "you are stealing the election again!".

The facts are Palin is better qualified than Obama to be President, even though the latter is running against McCain.

Posted by: rljmsilver | September 14, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Obama's 50 State Strategy?

Nevada Rasmussen McCain 49, Obama 46 McCain +3

National Gallup Tracking McCain 47, Obama 45 McCain +2

National Rasmussen Tracking McCain 48, Obama 45 McCain +3

South Dakota Rasmussen McCain 54, Obama 37 McCain +17

New Jersey Marist Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3

Friday, September 12
Race Poll Results Spread

Missouri Rasmussen McCain 51, Obama 46 McCain +5

Oklahoma Rasmussen McCain 63, Obama 32 McCain +31
Washington Rasmussen Obama 49, McCain 47 Obama +2
National Associated Press/GfK McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4

Ohio Univ. of Cinci McCain 48, Obama 44 McCain +4

National Associated Press/GfK McCain 48, Obama 44, Nader 1, Barr 1 McCain +4
Thursday, September 11
Race Poll Results Spread

Ohio InAdv/PollPosition McCain 48, Obama 47 McCain +1

Florida InAdv/PollPosition McCain 50, Obama 42 McCain +8

Michigan InAdv/PollPosition Obama 44, McCain 45 McCain +1

Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Posted by: dale | September 14,
2008 12:31 AM | September 14, 2008 12:41 AM
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---that was me

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:31 AM | September 14, 2008 12:41 AM

that was not posted by me.

ibid.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Does Biden Have A Catholic Problem?
Time Magazine 9/13/08

"...Within days, Cardinal Justin Rigali, who heads the USCCB committee on pro-life activities, and Bishop William Lori, who chairs the committee on doctrine, drafted a statement outlining Biden's theological errors that was released on behalf of the entire bishops conference — a rebuke not even Kerry received in 2004."


Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

If being in Alaska next door to Russia gives Sarah Palin foreign policy experience, then why shouldn't being in Kuwait for a brief visit, next door to Iraq, give Palin Iraq visit points?

The truth is being spun so much there's none left -- why do we even have to put up with all the bizarre Republican Palin spin?

Posted by: somerseten | September 14, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Maybe she saw iraq from a distance like the eskimos see russia from alaska.

All the eskimos who see russia should have been vetted for their foriegn policy credentials.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?pagewanted=2&em

Posted by: vikki, VA | September 14, 2008 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:31 AM
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And what is clear to all who read your posts is that you have no regard for accuracy, facts, proofs or truth.

Your sad attempts at dissembling and cheap tries at adopting badly scripted police/court prime time drama show the readers here the ineptness of your gop party line.

Like I said, please keep it up.

Posted by: Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:31 AM | September 14, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: tenbar | September 14, 2008 12:31 AM

ive worked with kids all my life, many of whome have no experience whatsoever.

when given teh opportunity to put forth an effort and be given a responsibility some kids propel forth and do things even i have yet to imagine accomplishing.

the kids who do so have the same type of personality as palin, curious and fervent. perhaps she wont be the best president, but i am assured she wont be the worst. as for the rest, i beleive that obama is about as qualified as palin, and only works on flash tactics meant to appease only the dullest of us all. and the ones most likely to stop watching once hte fireworks are gone. besides fireworks cost alot.

i have no faith in obamas tactics, nor in his ability to change (especially when hes unable to change from a nicotine addiction). i have no interest in obama at all, of the kids ive worked with like him, they do exactly what he has proven to do. sit back, and ignore responsibility, allowing people to simply give him credit for things he put no effort forth on.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

palin is like a perhaps hand
placing a head of moose
here
and there
gently dissembling
a reflection of a lie
in kazuo kawasaki
while she gingerly tip
toes
across the border into iraq
always
never
b l i n k i n g

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

jjchic,

actually ballistics and blood drop analysis both require gravity to be upheld by a court of law, as such unless u want to make a case against gravity in court using a media article...go right ahead.

but like i said, im obviously wasting my time with you, ur a blind liberal.

the funny thing is, if i walked up to you with a fox news article you'd complain about it.

thanks for playing tho....you did more for proving liberal ignorance than i could even begin to.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

These posts make me sad to be a Democrat or Republican. Obama's never going to bring about the level of change he's selling, and he got his hands dirty on the crap indignation with Clinton, so stop crying about McCain. But the bizarro Palin world is just too much for me. I know the liberals on here are kind of lunatics, but do any Republicans posting here really want this woman as a potential president? Seriously you're kidding right?

Posted by: tenbar | September 14, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Palin and her aides do not know the difference between Iraq and Kuwait. McSlime and his beauty queen empty bikini, Gov. Pain, are the tops on cynical manipulation of US voters. As a 63 years old feminist I am in shock and despair at the stage where the Republicans have the US reeling and looking at another 8-12 years of more of the McSame--McShame of torture, loss of civil rights, rights to choice, loss of the constitution, separation of church and state, loss of our planet. So many us us are in deep despair at McSlime's display of deep cynicism in selecting a dangerous ill-educated zealot as VP, who may well become POTUS when the 72-plus near-dementia McBush dies in office.

Posted by: lin | September 14, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

John McCain's top 10 temper tantrums ...

http://blog.case.edu/conservativemovement/2008/01/29/john_mccains_top_ten_temper_explosions

"The Republican senator witnessing the scene had considered supporting McCain for president, but changed his mind. ‘I decided,’ the senator told Newsweek, ‘I DIDN'T WANT THIS GUY ANYWHERE NEAR A TRIGGER.’” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | September 14, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:18 AM
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Oh, please do. Your rants are as out of touch as are mccain and palin. Every time you spout your pathetic 'argument,' you show everyone how intellectually and ethically bankrupt the gop and the mccain/palin campaign are.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:15 AM
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Oh sweet jesus.

Who declared that a court of law is the be all and end all of obtaining truth? So, because gravity hasn't been proved in a court somewhere, it's not true? Because OJ was found innocent in a court of law you believe he didn't do it?

You're really just embarrassing yourself now.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

i think ill still post comments about how obama is lying and mccain isnt because i think the average independant is smarter than you jjchic, but perhaps thats just false hope.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 12:07 A

jjchic,

its good to know that if i ever get in trouble by the law, i can walk into your courtroom, or simply request a trial with you in it, and if i bring a newspaper article (for example the great "gore wins election") or other examples and i will get off scott free.

the points are for intelligence, feel free to add them to your IQ score, because anyone who is smart AND checks thier FACTS with anything legitimate, deserves a bit more of a ranking on intelligence.


heres a brain buster for you tho, does anyone know why obama quit "community organizing?"

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:00 AM
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Oh, by the way, what are you up to now in your cutting and pasting mcpoints? A huffy? A telescope? X-ray specs?

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:00 AM
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You clearly are just attempting to disallow proof of mccain/palin lies because you don't like them. Again, it's not going to work, but feel free to keep trying to do it -- it shows everyone else how divorced from reality the modern gop is.

Thanks, I know what a doctrine is. I was just confused because you 'misspelled' it in two different posts.

I'd be careful about bringing up Obama's church -- Palin's is so wacko that it's going to turn of millions of non end timer evangelicals. But again, please keep bringing it up. It nicely opens up a subject that will destroy the prospects of mayor mccheese and the moose hunter in november.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 14, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

I don't know,
but I've been told,
McCain's swiftboaters,
reek of mold!

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | September 14, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 11:50 PM

jjchic,

you are right I DONT get to disallow facts because they come from a media outlet, the government of the united states legislature does.

im sorry but again, you need FACTS to make a case.

also doctrine (spelled it wrong, im tired, swimming) is the interpretations of either a legal document or a religious document pertaining to a persons beleif. for example obamas doctrine for constitutional interpretation is known to some as extremist liberal constitutional doctrine.

and his churches doctrine would be anti-segregation extremist doctrine.

theres politically correct terms to and not so politically correct terms.

but i must repeat that you need FACTS in order to stake a claim in court.

and so, again, im seeking PROOF.

come again.

Posted by: dale | September 14, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse


Gee. The Washington Post gets scooped with the truth again!
Will any of you at the WP ever be the first to report the lies and fraud overflowing out of the McCain/Palin camp day in and day out?

Can't you do any of your own investigative reporting and print the truth for yourselves for once?
Why is it always secondhand.

We all know McCain and Palin are lying their azzes off!
SO WHY DON"T YOU REPORT IT??

A STORY ORIGINATING FROM YOUR NEWSROOM!!

Have you all been reduced to a bunch of stenographers???

Every day, all you WP reporters are being out-hustled by every other newspaper and blog out there!

Does Rupert Murdoch now have controlling interest of your paper?

Are you not allowed to print the truth anymore?

Do you take the talking points from the McCain camp and run with those each day as your lead stories?

It's all good, right?

I mean, the tickets to the White House Christmas cocktail party are in the mail heading your way, right?

Cocktails and hors d'oeuvres with the shakers and movers of DC, where they look past you as they pretend to shake your hand.

Now, that's got to be rewarding.

Posted by: chasemonster | September 13, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

haven't heard from chevy, or is is ford, or dodge, or chevy chase? anyway, hopefully the fed's have picked your hatred spewing mouth up and took you to the pokey. even better your being transported to the mountains where your good buddy who hates america just as much as you hate muslims and blacks. I hope you both duke it out and just kill each other already.

Posted by: kubrickstan | September 13, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Joe | September 13, 2008 11:46 PM

that is half correct, and what many beleive, he actually held office 2 times, but he was only elected once. his first election he got 4 signatures on a petition discredited and thus ran unopposed, he then lost because he did nothing of note to his citizen, and then after the guy who got into office that election did horrible they decided mediocre was better than horrible.

so 1/2 pt.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:46 PM

---that was me...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Hey, lying is what Republicans do best! Don't take that away from them. There wouldn't be much left!

Posted by: Arjuna9 | September 13, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 11:35 PM

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Oh, and what the hell is a 'doctern' anyway?

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I know folks who vote Republican perceive much because of their limited vocabulary and low IQ, so let me keep this short:

You suck. Your candidates suck. We are going to bury you in a landslide on November 4.

Seeya.

Posted by: LiberalTarian | September 13, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 11:35 PM

dale,

Again, you don't get to disallow proof just because you don't like it by stating it's reported in the media. The fact that it's reported in the media is irrelevant. What's relevant is that it is they are true.

Your pathetic attempt to disallow them are laughable and perhaps symptomatic of megalomania or at least incredibly delusional thinking on your part. Long story short: no one's buying what you're selling.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

apart from experience im just curious if anyone knows how many times obama has been ELECTED to any office?
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Well, he was elected to the Illinois state senate and to the U.S. senate. There's two.

Posted by: Joe | September 13, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Potatohead,

Educated redneck is an oxymoron.

Posted by: Joe | September 13, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

apart from experience im just curious if anyone knows how many times obama has been ELECTED to any office?

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Good lord, the wheels have come completely off the Straight Talk Express.

You guys are winning! Stop ruining it with these blatant lies!

Posted by: Eric | September 13, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

DISPATCHES FROM THE GROUND WAR ...

THE ARMY TIMES REPORTS ...

McCain on FCS: Flip-flop or fib?

By Bradley Peniston - Staff writer
Posted : Saturday Sep 13, 2008 6:58:20 EDT

Has Sen. John McCain renounced his longtime antagonism toward the Army’s Future Combat Systems?

On Sept. 8, the Republican presidential candidate told a rally crowd in Lee’s Summit, Mo., about an Obama video message to a liberal advocacy group.

“He promised them he would, quote, ‘slow our development of Future Combat Systems,’” McCain said, according to wire reports. “This is not a time to slow our development of Future Combat Systems.”

Flashback to July, however, when his campaign furnished McCain’s economic plan to The Washington Post, declaring that “there are lots of procurements — Airborne Laser, [C-17] Globemaster, Future Combat System [sic] — that should be ended and the entire Pentagon budget should be scrubbed.”

In fact, McCain has long criticized the over-budget, behind-schedule FCS program. In 2005, he blasted the Army for allowing the program to balloon to $161 billion, and forced the service to rewrite the main FCS contract.

So where does McCain really stand? Some bloggers and analysts have suggested that he used the term “future combat systems” generically. Obama’s campaign maintains their candidate was speaking specifically about FCS, in which case McCain may be twisting his rival’s words.

Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute called it deceitful.

“McCain’s interpretation of Obama’s position is typical of the way in which the Republicans have twisted Democratic views in order to undercut their opponents and at the same time obscure the past positions of the Republicans,” Thompson said. “Future Combat Systems is the centerpiece of Army modernization. However, McCain has been more critical of it than anyone else in the chamber. Obama has been much more detailed and thoughtful in his comments about future military investment than McCain’s very superficial statements.”

Officials with the McCain campaign did not return phone calls and emails requesting clarification.

What Obama said

McCain was quoting from a campaign video message from Obama to a liberal group that seeks to cut Pentagon funds by 15 percent.

“I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending,” Obama said in the video, recorded earlier this year. “I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of Future Combat Systems.”

F. Whitten Peters, a defense adviser for the Obama campaign and former secretary of the Air Force, confirmed that the Democratic candidate was talking about the Army program.

“Obama had said that he wanted to review FCS and he thought that he might want to slow the fielding,” Peters said. “His feeling is there really needs to be an overall strategic review of larger weapon programs to decide which ones are sufficiently important to keep going and which ones may need to be scaled back.”


Antonie Boessenkool contributed to this report.

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | September 13, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

The only way to beat Obama is to beat him with smears and lies. That's the plan I see from republicans. The man will be president. I live on FM 428, a redneck for Obama. My Ford 350 is toping at $70 diesel. I don't like Obama but his story is cleaner and I like the change story. But still, he is a politician and they are all dirty,,, all of them, especially Palin.

Posted by: bond_dallas | September 13, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

You're right. SNL has Frau Palin down cold. Can't wait until the skit hits youtube so I can keep laughing.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm amazed by all of you folks who keep claiming that you don't know who Obama is, as the may myths surrounding Sarah Palin unravel. Mr. Obama has undergone a grueling 19 months of media scrutiny and had to defend himself from baseless charges such as "he's a Muslim who went to a Madrassa school; he has terrorist ties; his wife gave a speech at her church saying 'kill whitey." All have been proven false. You can't tie him to one lie on the scale of at least 5 or 6 this week alone that were told by Ms. Palin and have since been exposed.

You won't vote for Obama no matter what he does, and I don't care about that, but in the face of overwhelming evidence, you should come to terms with the fact that your new celebrity is a complete fraud.

Posted by: Joe | September 13, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

jjchicago sez: "those dollars he's promising to hacks for cutting and pasting his bs on various sites and blogs".

Until tonight I didn't think that this was true. However, it's painfully obvious that a couple of posters are rotating between 3 or 4 standard posts and have been doing so all evening. I guess their Republican handlers taught them how to cut and paste. How lame.....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain: Waive Bye Bye to that convention bump. SNL just ripped your one advantage, Sarah Palin, apart.

I'm still laughing!

We all know SNL decides elections (see: "Lock Box" skit in 2000)

Posted by: THANK YOU SNL | September 13, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain: Waive Bye Bye to that convention bump. SNL just ripped you one advantage, Sarah Palin, apart.

We all know SNL decides elections (see: "Lock Box" skit in 2000)

I'm still laughing!

Posted by: THANK YOU SNL | September 13, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Q. Who is the leading Pork merchant in the Senate? Obama with over $100 million in earmarks.

Q. Who has zero legislative achievements of note in the Senate? Obama

Q. Who started running for president after barely two years in the Senate? Obama

Q. Who do the dems openly compare to Christ? Obama

Q. Who is incapable of uttering an intelligent phrase without a teleprompter? Obama

Q. Who is Kornblut's american idol? Obama

Posted by: jlluy | September 13, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Is there anything the McCain-Fallin camp isn't lying about? They seem to be lying daily. The media is constantly calling them out and they still continue to lie. Palin, however, will be out of the race by october. We don't much about her and judging by her morbid interview w/ Charlie Gibson she's not ready for prime time.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

"That is still not visiting Iraq, though.

And cut the garbage with this whole Obama press release. The press is doing its job."

The press is doing it's job...really?. Take a look at the latest update...(it was originally posted as "Palin Never Visited Iraq". Palin's campaign said from the beginning she went the crossing, and crossed briefly into Iraq (which is in Iraq). The Globe story says as much. The Post originally stated she hadn't. Well now, I guess it turns out she did cross into Iraq, with a Major General to back up her claim...I guess that's pretty damn authoratative isn't it? It is a shame the Post didn't bother to find the whole story out before they called the original statement a lie (like the Obama campaign).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:53 PM

no i didnt say that jjchic

but nice try, i never said i was dismissing it as media lies, i gave an example of how the media frames truth.

its legal in this country to frame truth, especially in elections, its why liberal bias exist. theres no legal doctern that suggests people do tho, however it has been documented in memos from companys such as ABC and MSM (big surprise!)

the point is, im looking for proof apart from media articles, i could care less whats widely acknowledged, iran widely acknowledged that the holocaust never happened and germany widely acknowledged that jews were bad and should be wrangled up.

mob mentality is not something im into being a part of, but thanks for the offer.

im looking for proof so i can give it to democrats so they can start a legal campaign against mccain, if he is lying i agree with you he should be jailed.

BUT NOT ONE DEMOCRAT ON THE FACE OF THIS COUNTRY HAS EVEN TRIED TO GIVE A FRACTION OF ACTUAL PROOF OUTSIDE OF THE MEDIA THAT MCCAIN HAS LIED EVEN ONCE.

however, there are currently 3 lawsuits against barack obama, only one is "official" at this time, the one against his citizenship.

however the funder of the ayers connection ad has also funded a private look into obamas tax records and campaign contributions to sue him for the money given him by rezko which he has yet to pay back.

obama uses online registry, to gain money from ANYONE. you dont know who could be sending that money to obama, and thats SCARY. especially when u know that rezko who previously funded his campaign received 3 million dollars from fundamentalist islamics right after obama was named as the democratic candidate.

the problem is, hes hid it well, so far we cannot track it, but none the less, its worth facing that the democrats have ZERO CASES AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. and obama has 3 in the works against him by people apart from mccains actual committee.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

99% of the wingers don't even believe the bs they post here and elsewhere -- they're just bilking mayor mccheese out of those dollars he's promising to hacks for cutting and pasting his bs on various sites and blogs.

Sad and pathetic but still funny at the same time.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

And the fact that Palin didn't visit Iraq is a surprise to who exactly?

Of course she lied. It's what the McCain camp does best.

Anyone for a McCain Lies bumper sticker?

Posted by: VoiceofReason5 | September 13, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin are already bringing change to Presidential politics.

We have never before had candidates willing to out and out lie about easily checked facts. Are there really women out there who are willing to support any woman, even if she's a proven liar? And how will these two bring reform to government, when they've already shown they're willing to lie about matters big and small? Finally, how proud are evangelicals about supporting indisputable liars? Is this what you want to teach your children? You cannot preach morality to others when you so easily abandon your own. I know it's easier just not to think about it. But if you are not willing to think for yourself, then you lose your soul, and so does your country.

Posted by: orrg1 | September 13, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Proof and facts don't matter to the mcainiancs -- they want to support mccain/palin because they feed their supporters' psychological need for nothing that challenges or upsets their preconceived dogma and biases.

When faced with facts and proofs that refute their predetermined dogma, they will close their eyes, plug their ears and shout 'nah-nah-nah.' When shown that their beloved and not to be questioned demigod candidates are lying sacks of excrement, they will lash out the political opposition and whoever dares to deliver the proof of their candidates mendacity and hypocrisy.

The vast majority of them have long ago constructed an impervious emotional and psychological armament that will brook no doubt or dissent from their rigidly lockstep dogma. Most of them are infants in an adult world and scared nearly to paralysis and unable to construct a single original thought.

They are sad and to be pitied but not accommodated in their petulant tantrums and demands that we lower ourselves to their level.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

"You know, where left wing drivel is forced upon a free market media."

You mean as opposed to "right wing" drivel like "creation science" (now there's an oxymoron for you), and "intelligent design" that is being forced upon our children?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Censoring opposing political views is a Bush/Cheney/McCain/Palin tactic.

Except that it has only been seriously proposed by the left under the "fairness doctrine."

You know, where left wing drivel is forced upon a free market media.

Got to do something - look at air America....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92PL7400&show_article=1

because obama stands for whistleblowers, and free speech.

except when its against him.

but he never lies, cus thats just "framing the coverage"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

"WAPO has his postings under this name with his unique IP address. If they block his IP address, nobody will be able to post anything from that computer to WAPO site, regardless what name they use, it's whole computer that would be blocked and WAPO has right to do that and they can do that."

You're exactly correct. However, a liberal commie pinko queer-loving paper like the WAPO wouldn't do that because they believe in the free exchange if ideas, even from idiots like Chevy. Censoring opposing political views is a Bush/Cheney/McCain/Palin tactic.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't fret too much over MrPotatoHead98 aka Chevy. He/she is just a paid Neo-Conjob poster who gets paid by the post. He/she had better hope the quality of the post isn't factored in or they will end up owing the McCain campaign money.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Angel | September 13, 2008 10:56 PM

while a decent statement of alot of "doctern" oriented churches. it is mostly an account of city churches.

the bible is written in love and to someone trying to convey love it comes off as nothing near anti-semitic or racist. i know this because i teach the bible and i am also a major fan of language and how it does nothing but define things in a way that for the most part makes us divisive.

people who are not VERY intentional with their words, will always be misinterpreted, look at mccain, people call him a liar, they say palin said things she never said.

did you know that if you take a verse out of the bible it says "kill all of your enemies, leave not one baby mother or man alive" but its addressed at the jews in the old testament when they are about to take back an area of the promised land because those people will lead them astray (they dont follow through and as such are lead astray later).

anything taken out of context can seem to be wrong.

anyways theres my 2 cents, i beleive that the things wee allow ourselves to see define ourselves. look at all the commenter's who go directly to the fact that sarah palin has breasts and talk about her like an object, its an affect of the visual culture we live in.

i dont beleive obama made a good choice sticking with a church that undoubtedly led him to his democratic fervor. as such hateful spewing rarely leads to being republican. republicans prefer to be the ones judging, not be judged. generally because republicans use a different set of "rules" to govern people with.

for example, a republican tends to focus on labels and label people like obama as a politician, then demand that he proves hes above it. obama has sank lower than any politician ever and claimed to ride a higher horse than any ever. and as such republicans are not convinced.

mccain has proven himself already, so frankly the smear campaign of the democrats claiming lies but not backing it up with facts or lawsuits is straight out useless jibber jabber.

obama has yet to prove himself, should he make an effort to try, he will win this election, but i am willing to bet he hasnt grown up enough to. or he would be running as a republican ;).

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Where has draft dodger Joe been? Asking more paraplegics to stand?

How are you leftist going to explain away his deferments?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Chevy sez: "Without question this is the story of the year and shows just how low a Demorat will go to ascertain power".

Gee Chevy, did he really ascertain power? Perhaps you meant "attain"? AHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You really need to have someone help you read a dictionary. What a rube....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Why cant Palin put lipstick on a pig?
They run like hell at the sound of that screechy sing song voice of hers.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Another way to tell if Sarah Palin is lying.
Her lipstick is moving.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

the lins can handle the truth very well - they are just ashamed of it and try to hide it come election time.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey "Angel"

THAT QUESTION ABOUT OBAMA'S CHURCH WAS NOT POSTED BY ME!!!!
I AGREE WITH YOU ON ANSWER, BUT NOT MY QUESTION. I THINK YOU MAY HAVE PASTED MY NAME BY MISTAKE.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 13, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Q: How do you know when John McCain and Sarah Palin are LYING?

A: Their lips are moving.

Posted by: Andy | September 13, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's top ten temper explosions ...

http://blog.case.edu/conservativemovement/2008/01/29/john_mccains_top_ten_temper_explosions

"The Republican senator witnessing the scene had considered supporting McCain for president, but changed his mind. ‘I decided,’ the senator told Newsweek, ‘I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.’” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | September 13, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Obama keeps pulling one boner after another.

Posted by: Bud | September 13, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Check this pic out of Sarah Palin..is she hot or what?

http://www.style.com/vogue/feature/090108VFEA/

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Check this pic out of Sarah Palin..is she hot or what?

http://www.style.com/vogue/feature/090108VFEA/

Chevy

________________

With all due respect, this is not something that is warranted here. Could you please refrain from posting such slander? This is not a site for such posts.

Posted by: bala.mukund | September 13, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

"ANCHORAGE (AP) — Hundreds of people protesting the policies of Republican vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin lined a busy street on Saturday, waving signs and chanting "Obama!"
The protest came about two hours after Palin delivered a rousing speech at Anchorage's new convention center before leaving the state to return to the campaign trail. Palin was named John McCain's running mate on Aug. 29. This was her first return since then to her home state.

The protesters, including supporters of presidential candidate Barack Obama and those who don't agree with Palin's positions on abortion, polar bears, Iraq and other issues, lined one side of the street near Anchorage's main library building.

A much smaller number of mostly pro-Palin supporters were on the other side of the street, chanting "Sarah! Sarah!"

Police were at the scene, but there were no immediate reports of clashes."

Posted by: Protesters | September 13, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

!!!!!!!!!Washington Post!!!!!!
block this person's postings.

What's the point? He can make up an new name to post under. Just ignore him. He'll get bored and go back to viewing his child porn.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama is bi-racial so if he hates whites he hates himself. For him to go on Fox and tell Bill taking a tax increase is the neighborly (christian)thing to do and use a waitress probably a white woman(you see a lot of blacks doing that job) Not if anything they're still in the kitchen. I am black so miss me with all this insane HATE and EVIL we should all be praying for our country and put politics aside and FOCUS on America. Just based on FACTS Democrats govern better and are more conservative by all economic standards U.S.Census Bureau - President's Economic Report-www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/-index.html. Check the facts and pass them on.

Posted by: Brandon | September 13, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the majority of the liberal posts on this site is that they really can't handle the truth.

Conservatives very politely state facts while the die hard liberals come back with there obvious pent up hatred and spew insidious remarks that are not fact based and a product of their imagination.

The facts are Obama associated with radicals, was a follower of Sol Linsky, a known communist, received contributions from William Ayers during Obamas campaign for the Illinois State Senate, had shady dealings and provided favors to Rezko a slum landlord and convicted felon, spent 20 years at a black liberation militant church and conveniently dropped out when the heat was on and most recently has back tracked on virtually every stand he took during his primary campaign.

These are facts and if you don't believe it, do a little research before you comeback with your vitriolic attacks that sound like hounds barking in the dark. Some of you out there are so pathetic its pitiful as Mr T would say

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

First of all people who do not attend church will never understand the church, therefore, church should not be a part of this political arena.

As a person who does attend church, I well understand church. If I were ever in a church which spouted such hate and crap from the pulpit, I would run as fast as I could.

The only reason it is part of the political process - is because it IS part of the political process.

Anyone, ANYONE who sits in front of a lunatic who rants the way Wright rants has no business running for any office.

Obama's silence until pressured by advisors = acquiescence.

And that, boys and girls, is part of the process.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey everyone, this exchange is way over the top. Go get some relief at http://www.bop-o-rama.com. So she did not step across the boarder.

Posted by: This tread is Way over the Top! | September 13, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Back in the 1930s, H.L. Mencken took note of the Rev. Gerald L.K. Smith--the rabidly antisemitic successor to Huey Long's "Everyman a King" movement--and called him "the greatest boob-bumper since Peter the Hermit."

Now, at last, we have another claimant for that honor, the Rev. Dr. Sarah Palin, Mayor of Wassail, Governor of the Would-Be Independent Republic of Alaska, and would-be Vice President of the United States.

Congratulations on your find, McCain...

Posted by: jm917 | September 13, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has a bumper sticker on her 4 x 4 that reads “Vegetarian – One that can’t Hunt”


First and foremost to me PALIN visted the troops in IRAQ
NObama SPITS on the TROOPS when in Germany because the press wasn't allowed, so he couldn't do a photo op to say..
"Hey... Look at Me"

Sarah Palin throws GOP crooks in jail!

NObama befriends crooks, Resko land deal and American Terrorist William Ayres who launched NObama career in politics.

Sarah Palin Manages a Military
NObama manages his house

SarahPalin Manages a State's Budget
NObama manages his check-book

Sarah Palin hunts Moose 4am with a high-powered rifle.
NObama argued in college to ban guns.*

* a lawsuit has been filed to release NObama's college records


Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

When Palin starts to lie her left eye kind of looks at her nose. Just kind of turns inward slightly. Ive noticed it on videos from her sportscasting too.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

!!!!!!!!!Washington Post!!!!!!
block this person's postings.

;;;;;;MrPotatoHead98;;;;;;;

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Check this pic out of Sarah Palin..is she hot or what?

http://www.style.com/vogue/feature/090108VFEA/

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

PUT SOME "LIPSTICK" PLEASE, IT SEEMS TO BE POPULAR LATELY AT McCAIN-PALIN CAMPAIGN.

Only among the women - thats the difference between your pathetic party and the party of America.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

"WAPO-
You need to block the offensive rantings of Chevy - Educated Redneck, AKA MrPotatoHead98! He is offensive to women and Americans. His only "Education" is clearly spewing hatred and misogynistic crap!"

WAPO-
Yes, it is quite disgusting and unbecoming of an educated discussion we aspire to have. Please have this person blocked.

Posted by: bala.mukund | September 13, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

J. Swift - OK so this whole thing does seem kinda silly doesn't it. I mean, why WOULD the governor of AK go to Iraq. The governor of my state, Texas, has never been to Iraq and Texas has thousands of Texas-based troops over there. But, since it is so obviously not a requirement of her job, why lie about it? To try to fake some international experience? It just seems like such a stupid thing to lie about. So it makes me wonder what else she is exaggerating.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

The GOP lies cover everything from the bridge to nowhere to weapons of mass destruction. You may choose to ignore the former to blindly support your party, but the latter caused the deaths of thousands of American mothers, fathers, sisters, daughters, sons, and brothers.

Don't people see that it is dangerous to elect people who will do or say anything to support their goals? This is exactly what you will get with McCain/Palin. As my grandmother said, when someone shows you who they are, take note.

Posted by: trace1 | September 13, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 13, 2008 10:30 PM

Has anyone on the left thought to analyze why obama had his family in such a vicious, openly racist, anti semetic chuch for twenty years? Was it politically motivated? An outlet for repressed hate among fellow haters? And them shamelessly pretend to represent all of America?
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As an AA who has attended many churches, I would like to answer your question and hope that you have the open mind necessary to understand the answer.

First of all people who do not attend church will never understand the church, therefore, church should not be a part of this political arena.

Secondly, when the Pastors of churches preach from the Bible it will always seem anti-semetic because of the way the Bible is interpreted on a spiritual level. Read the Bible for yourself, if you don't believe what I am saying. It speaks about Israel and Jews, etc.

Thirdly, after attending various churches myself, I decided that I would take what I needed and believed for my own life and leave the rest at the church. Therefore, it is my honest belief that if I can do it, Obama did as well.

If everyone believed or did as their Pastors regardless to what that belief is, then all Catholics would be child molesters, but they are not. All Christians attending certain churches would be adulters and so forth and so on.

So because of my own experience and being raised in a church with views that are way off from mine in certain areas. I am quite comfortable with Obama and what I see in Obama in his every day demeanor, personality, and most importantly; the way he loves, respects, and treats his family, solidifies why I believe he is the best choice for the US, at this time.

You may not agree with me, but I wanted to answer the question you asked. I am a conservative Democrat, yet he is the best choice for me.

I will no longer vote on issues or abortion or homosexuality, it is the choice of that person and God will do the judging when the time comes. I can only share my feelings on the issue with others. I am not Lord of their lives, and if they do not have a Lord, then they are not required to live by the Word of God, it is only for those that have chosen to live for Christ. Do you not agree?

Posted by: Angel | September 13, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Palin draws bigger crowds than McCain.

Talk about embarassing.


She even has a later bedtime.


McCain is really struggling. Reminds me of a Chevy.

Posted by: Some guy
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Kiss my (__I__)

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

WOW CHEVY..GREAT CHRISTIAN THOUGHTS YOU HAVE. I GUESS YOU ALREADY CAME IN YOUR PANTS STARING AT PICTURES OF YOUR TRUE LOVE SARA. YOU KNOW SHE'S MARRIED, BUT SHE CHEATED ON HER HUSBAND, ONCE AT LEAST, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY OTHER TIMES SHE HAS CHEATED. EITHER YOU A LONELY DISGUSTING RACIST WHO LOOKS AT A WOMAN AS A ROLL IN THE HAY OR YOU MARRIED AND VERY MISRERABLE. EITHER WAY, I SEE THEM AS I CALL THEM, REDNECK, RACIST AND REALLY REALLY STUPID. HAVE A BUD ON ME...OH BY THE WAY, MRS, MCCAIN JUST SOLD BUDWEISER TO A COMPANY FROM EUROPE SO THERE NOT AN AMERICAN COMPANY ANYMORE. SO GO RED WHITE AND BLUE. ANY QUESTIONS? DIDN'T THINK SO.

Posted by: kubrickstan | September 13, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

WAPO-
You need to block the offensive rantings of Chevy - Educated Redneck, AKA MrPotatoHead98! He is offensive to women and Americans. His only "Education" is clearly spewing hatred and misogynistic crap!

Posted by: LoriC | September 13, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is on FOX tuesday. i'll need to take some salt-peter if i'm going to watch it enthusiastically

She is so HOT

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

What?! While governor of Alska, Palin never went to Iraq?! She went to Kuwait and only
got to the border of Iraq?! How could we possibly elect a person so obviously vile, so clearly unfit to hold public office!

Posted by: J. Swift | September 13, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I've been to half the countries in Europe, and have a brother who lives in Japan.... I guess I could be the vice-presidential candidate for the Republican party.... oh wait... I don't lie, cheat and steal.... oh well.

Posted by: normanx | September 13, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Hot chicks rock
Angelina Jolie for VP
She has foreign experience.
Respected internationally
Has demonstrated the ability to defeat terrorists.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

we should hold Palin accountable for her patriotism because her husband...
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there u go again:
1st u make up anyone holding obama - litmus
2nd u talk about Palin by attaching her hustand?

really now..........!!! :-)

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | September 13, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the election is over. Our brilliant USA electorate has decided who they want to have a beer with. Great way to pick the leader of the free world.

Posted by: No standards | September 13, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

pitchforksandtorches - is Frau Palin really that stupid? I don't think so. Think about it. In a day she went from being the gov of Alaska (big political launch platform there....) and ex-mayor of Cicely, er, Wasilla, Alaska to an international phenomena. I bet if you asked someone in Brussels they would know who she is (that's in Belgium Chevy, get someone to point it out for you). Even if she and McCain loses everyone in the US, and a significant number of the world population, knows her name. This was a great move for her politically. Heck, she even may get her own reality show on Fox when this is all over.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

She was at the border with Iraq, not Iraq.

Wow. Not exactly the Watergate scandal. Or claiming your grandfather personally liberated Auschwitz to get Jewish votes when he was over a thousand miles (rather than a few feet, like Palin) away.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | September 13, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin draws bigger crowds than McCain.

Talk about embarassing.


She even has a later bedtime.

McCain is really struggling. Reminds me of a Chevy.

Posted by: Some guy | September 13, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

HOTTEST GOVERNOR IN THE COOLEST STATE!
and brains to boot!
an accomplishments to bot!
hockey-playing, gun-toating hunter KICKING DRAGONS AND TAKING NAMES - - with a smile!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Some here suggested we should use Obama's association with his minister as a litmus test for his patriotism. Would that be in the same way we should hold Palin accountable for her patriotism because her husband belonged to a group that actively pursued the succession of Alaska from teh ?US? Such hypocrites you people are.

Posted by: midgie | September 13, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Check this pic out of Sarah Palin..is she hot or what?

http://www.style.com/vogue/feature/090108VFEA/

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Daddy taught her how to shoot a moose and how to shoot the bull.

Posted by: seems to me | September 13, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

"Why does the Post, Sally Quinn and others, insist on dumping on this woman? Where is the Ombudsman?"

I'll tell you why, pal. Because she ain't exactly running for President of the PTA. That's why.

And if you scrutinize her what you might call 'record' you come up with a freaking -0- as in zero.

And if YOU believe a -0- as in zero is capable or worthy of governing the United States of America then God help us.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I cant trust a codgety stoic man like mcCain in his present physical state to drive around
or fly a plane
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but u trust someone who is friends with someone who didnt serve a day for killing two police officers?

u trust someone who had a heavy cocaine habit(possibly sill does - cocaine is hard to kick)

u trust someone who wont even produce a copy of his birth certificate showing he is eligible to run?

MCCAIN'S MOTHER IS 97 YEARS OLD AND SHE CAN OUT-DEBATE YOUR CANDIDATE.

I TURST MCCAIN FOR TWO TERMS.
SO FAR, HE HAS OUTSHINED YOUR JUNIOR CANDIDATE IN THE MOST EMBARRASSING WAY.

junior is suppose to be smart - - so how come he's losing and being caught in so many lies? THINK!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

When oh when will the smarmy MSM realize that we don't want elite educated people running the country! We don't want to be shown up as ignorant! How dare they tell us that we have been lied to for years! We believed those lies! What are they trying to do, make us look stupid?

Preserve your dignity! Vote McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Flak Jaquette | September 13, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a victim of her own party. Thrown into the campaign only as a tool. She should know better, but she doesn’t. She’s THAT stupid.
Typical 21st century Republican tactic: Make your glaring weaknesses seem like rock-solid strengths, then sit back as the media act as megaphones for distortion.
That is why the Bible bangers are so excited by Palin. She gets in, fires off some nukes, and it’s sweet Jesus we’re coming home.

Posted by: pitchforksandtorches | September 13, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Chevy = has been American car company -- they don't get the need for renewable energy either

Posted by: Perspective | September 13, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

ChooseBestCandidate sez: "what significant has obama done that outshines mcCain's record?"

Finally, an intelligent question that invites dignified discourse.

You know, I honestly have to say I don't know what Obama has done that would outshine McCain because I can't really find anything of merit that McCain has done in his 20 years in the senate. His "maverick" status is a cover for the fact that he hasn't been able to work with his peers in congress to accomplish much of anything. He certainly isn't considered a leader in the Senate. So he claims to be a reformer because he is shunned by his peers. So who is he going to reform? Himself? After all, he's been in power for 20 years?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Bud epitomizes the type of people that vote republican. Thoughtful, reasoned, careful and attentive to the issues when picking who he is going vote for.

Bud:
"All of you dumping on McCain can blow me."

Bud is explaining to all of us why America will attain third world status in the next 5 years. Please republicans its about so much more than a "gut" feeling. Pull 50 cents from your pocket and buy a clue, otherwise please sit this one out.

Posted by: HopingForABetterWorld | September 13, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Talk about resume inflation! McCain, you will go down as the lying POW. Some accomplishment.

Posted by: John in Cincinnati | September 13, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

The McCain/Palin camp seems to lie on reflex. I have never witnessed so much blatant dishonesty in my life.

It appears the neocons are hooking up with the James Dobson crowd as an openly political force. War for Israel, folks! Put a big bullseye on America.

The biggest exporters of the death and war team up with the crazy "Christian" soldiers...hypocrisy and damnation come to mind. McCain has sold his soul and he's willing to sell yours, too.

What a freakin' nightmare. Get ready to Sieg Heil, all you Good Germans out there!

Posted by: Becca | September 13, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone on the left thought to analyze why obama had his family in such a vicious, openly racist, anti semetic chuch for twenty years? Was it politically motivated? An outlet for repressed hate among fellow haters? And them shamelessly pretend to represent all of America?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse


What is it with McCain/Palin? Everything they say and do is a little "white lie, a mulligan- a do over?"
I finally decided who I will vote for? It came down to the health factor for me! Mental health!

I cant trust a codgety stoic man like mcCain in his present physical state to drive around
or fly a plane much less be the president of The US in complicated times that confront us!

He cant even remember what happens day to day!
He still thinks the Vietnam War was righteous and that we should have indeed fought that war! Now the Iraq War too-this patern sounds real familar and real dangerous!

I would listen to him and he would say insain things like,
"Bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran, will kill them with cancer,
were all Georgians, the current economic times are just great! Fight Fight Fight Fight Fight....."
I can't take it anymore
Finally, I know the definition of "Maverick!"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Chevy's vitriolic and racist posts are great for the Democratic Party. It shows the worst of the repuglican party and is just turning people off.
Let him rant, its good for our side.

Obama 08

Posted by: TheTruth | September 13, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Palin and McCain go for a sail on the Potomac. The wind gets up and blows McCain's hat into the river. The captain offers to bring the boat around and retrieve the hat. Palin stops him, removes her stiletto heels and calmly walks over the water and brings back the hat.

The lede in the next days WAPO?

PALIN CAN"T SWIM!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

The comment from "let me get this straight" is so totally accurate, well expressed!!!! Thanks...this situation with this women is unbeliveable. The polarization her being in this election is causing is amazing. EVen if McCain wins he will not be able to do anything as half the country is going to feed up with their tactics!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: linwood.norman@verizon.net | September 13, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Chevy,

Perhaps your racist posts are simply politically motivated. Maybe. But if they are not politically motivated, are you merely jealous of a black american who has accomplished so much more than you will ever be able to?

Am I right in guessing that that's where your anger and insecurity come from? Honestly, I'm not assailing you; I'm just curious.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin and Bush differ in the following way: ______________? Anyone able to fill in the blank?

Thats easy. Before he was nominated, the illumined left was in love with him. Praised him, called him the maverick - the anti-Bush.

Now?

More twisted, goofy liberal logic.

Say anything, lie at the drop of a hat. Anything for power. Poor pathetic little losers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm very disturbed by the pattern of lies from the McCain camp. I have no idea if it will cost them in the long run, but my inclination now is that it will. Full disclaimer - I'm an Obama backer. But if I were undecided, I'd really wonder why the McCain camp is putting out the lies. And if Obama manages to get that message out, its curtains for McCain. It will be sad too, because win or lose the election, he's lost his honor along the way. And I don't care who you're supporting, it is impossible to argue right now that McCain hasn't lost his honor.

http://palincounter.blogspot.com/

Posted by: billthomson | September 13, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

"I was at a catered event this weekend. All of the help is young black men.
I discreetly asked each of them if they were registered to vote. If not, I quietly told them that this will probably be the most important thing that they will ever do, and it is very much in their own self-interest to register and vote for Obama.
They all understood what I was talking about."

You may think "they all understood what I was talking about".

I can guarantee what they were laughing about a few minutes later. As soon as you were out of sight. (As Americans, they're as polite as they can be)

Posted by: J. Conrad | September 13, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin and Bush differ in the following way: ______________? Anyone able to fill in the blank?

Posted by: ironhorse | September 13, 2008 10:13 PM
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the better comparison is to involve the two parties in this reace. yr arrows are not landing because you are focusing on the wrong target. BUSH'S TERM IS COING T AN END.

obama is better than mcCain in which way?
_________________________________?

why is obama a better choice than mcCain
___________________________?

what significant has obama done that outshines mcCain's record?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++????

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | September 13, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Quit picking on Piggy! She knows more about energy than anybody in the United States. Of America. Killed her a bar when she was only three. Just to watch it die.

Posted by: branfo4 | September 13, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Looks to me Ms. Palin has a tendency of embelishing the reality (who do you remember was like that?).

A refuel stop in Ireland becomes a diplomatic visit. A visit to a border camp in Kuwait becomes a meeting with the troops in Iraq.

What else is she exagerating? I guess we'll find out! Stay tune...

Posted by: Regis Urgel | September 13, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

All of you dumping on McCain can blow me.

Posted by: Bud | September 13, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

bobster - again, blow me. The biggest comedians here are the obamarat devotees.

Again, if you don't like it - either go away, or petition the san fran madam to enforce censoring anything unpleasant to the delicate ears of a left wing hater. It will be your only hope in silencing the majority of America. Till then - bugger off.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

If they had an Olympics for liars,
McCain/Palin, would get more Gold Medals
than Micheal Phelps

Posted by: moseyon | September 13, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Why does the Post, Sally Quinn and others, insist on dumping on this woman? Where is the Ombudsman?

Posted by: BJ Clinton | September 13, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow, it seems the wackos in support of Senator John McLiar are out in full force today.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" I hear them saying.

They've built a house of cards with Palin, but it is all starting to come a'tumbling down....

LOL.

Posted by: Oomingmak | September 13, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin and Bush differ in the following way: ______________? Anyone able to fill in the blank?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Call the McCain campaign...

and asky why their bloggers write factually incorrect and racist blogs.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Anne Kornblut continues to make a mockery of journalism. Obama has said and taken back many things over the course of the campaign, but nary a word out of Kornblut. For Anne, it's only a problem to be a candidate and have an inconsistency in your story if you are a Republican. As I've called out before on other posts, her loyalties are very clear.

Read her 'reporting' with both eyes closed if you want to make sure you avoid bias. Note that her sources are always very close to the Obama campaign, and she frequently cites Obama campaign press-releases (as she did again in this one) as her primary evidence. If Obama's camp wants to get something in the paper, they know who to call...

Posted by: dbw | September 13, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin and Bush differ in the following way: ______________? Anyone able to fill in the blank?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin and Bush differ in the following way: ______________? Anyone able to fill in the blank?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign said Governor Palin opposed the Bridge to Nowhere, but now we know she supported it.
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proving that just because she takes a positoin she wont cut off her nose to spite her face. when something evolves as meritous she will, for the betterment of her State go along with what's best.

this is a GREAT QUALITY. OBAMA AND MSM want to downplay it, but it only spotlights this woman's ability to work with everyone and to do what is best in the end despite pride issues.
ITS ABOUT TIME WE GOT WASHINGTON BACK TO REALITY.

you go MC-PAL!!!!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | September 13, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin and Bush differ in the following way: ______________? Anyone able to fill in the blank?

Posted by: ironhorse | September 13, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Comradess Annie is really scrapping the bottom now.

Come on now, sweetie -- you can do a lot better.

Don't you know the Messiah's counting on you?

Posted by: info | September 13, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

MrPotatoHead98 = Paid Neo-Conjob poster. Ignore the static.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Chevy, Obama is not a terrorist, not a muslim and thank God hes not a mcsame.Search for the truth and it will find you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey all those making this election about insignificant topics, such as Ayers and Rezco...QUIT GETTING YOUR TALKING POINTS FROM SEAN HANNITY! Learn to first think, then think for yourselves. Speak of an issue. Any single issue. Someone present ONE issue where McCain/Student Palin differ from GW Bush. Just ONE? ok, go...

Posted by: ironhorse | September 13, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse


I bet she never saw Russia form that little uninhabited island in Alaska either.

If she never saw Russia form Alaska does that destroy her foreign policy expertise.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/12/183923/982

You do know the view Palin and you idiots are reciting is an uninhabited island.

I guess you don't

Posted by: Langx | September 13, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Chevy - you can't even spell words with 3 syllables. You do know what a syllable is don't you? Maybe you should go back to two and single syllable words. Now, look in the mirror and say "moron", or "dick". If you practice you'll get it eventually.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

What respectable person attends such a vile church for 20 years? Only a Black Militant Racist

Chevy - Educated Redneck

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Yeah, like the white racists of the Southern Baptist Conference right? How in G-d's name can you profess slavery and believe in G-d and Jesus? As Rev. Wright said and I paraphrase, how can you go to church in your black robe Sunday morning and lynch someone in your white hooded robe Sunday night? I always wondered about that myself. And before you say it I happen to be white and no I don't feel guilty about it. If you profess to be a "Christian", then we are all G-d's children, even Neo-Conjobs. Last I knew G-d was neither Republican nor Democrate.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.”

* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

* If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.

* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.

* If you teach teach children about sexual predators, you are irresponsible and eroding the fiber of society.

* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America ’s.

* If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that hates America and advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

Posted by: Let Me Get This Striaght | September 13, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Chevy - it's spelled "Forestry" as in "the study of forests". Look it up if you know how to use a dictionary. Now, if you're talking about "Forrest County" Mississippi that's something else all together. Do you know how to read a map? Maybe a democrat can show you how.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

"MAVERICK" MCCAIN'S SORRY RECORD ON WHISTLEBLOWING ...

While Barack Obama has stood firm on employee free speech rights, making sure that those who dare commit the truth on behalf public integrity, the taxpayer and national security are protected, John McCain refuses to commit to real whistleblower protections.

Even now, conservative free speech groups are furiously lobbying him to take a stand, in part to try to neutralize Obama's leadership on the issue.

I know how important this is, having won the U.S. Office of Special Counsel's "Public Servant Award"--the highest award given in the federal service to whistleblowers and, in my case, the first one given to a national security whistleblower. [www.osc.gov/documents/press/2001/pr01_16.htm]

MORE THAN A MAVERICK WITH HIS SIDEKICKS, MCCAIN AND HIS LOBBYIST CREW LOOK LIKE THE "LOAN ARRANGERS."

What are his people afraid of?

A little ethical dissent in government?

Posted by: Martinedwinandersen | September 13, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Student Palin actually asked the question: What does a VP do?...this was 2 months ago.

Posted by: ironhorse | September 13, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Chris in Texas are you not embarrassed you can't even spell the occupation you claim to have a degree in correctly?

It's foRRest (two R's) you lyin POS

Chevy - Highly Educated Redneck

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

MSM, YO ARE BECOMMING A BIGGER JOKE WITH EACXH PASING WEEK... HERE YOU ARE writing a story about the validity of the amount of people at a Palin Rally?

if it were 2 people of 2000 poeple, people have had enough of obama and his lies and his terroist friends and his hateful frineds and his ties to Rezko who gets his money from IRANIAN-AUCHI.

obama had his chance... and he blew it... he was wrong to enter this race to begin wiht ad when he refused to let anyone see his birth certificate that should have been A BOLD RED FLAG WAVING AT YOU. now you have an empty suit and an ineligible candidate on your hands. No amount of silly stories about Palin will change thins. WHAT SHE HAS IS THE ANGELS AT HER BACK BECAUSE SHE STANDS FOR ALL THAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD. SHE WILL MAKE MISTAKES, I AM SURE BUT IT WILL NOT BE BECAUSE HER HEART IS IN THE WRONG PLACE. AND THAT, IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN OBAMA AND A PALIN.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | September 13, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe how many McCain supporters think this is the first lie. Do you people not follow the news from day to day or even week to week?
It's been a constant string of lies on both their parts, Palin--she was for the bridge to nowhere until it wasn't going to be funded--McCain stated Obama was for kindergarten sex ed, which was a lie--She denies any wrongdoing in office but go to the Anchorage Daily News and see for yourself.People there think she's scary and a dictator.
You keep talking Ayers and Rezco like they're part of Obama's inner circle, like McCain's staff the lobbyists. Listen, my dad had a liquor store in Chicago before WWII and back in the day Capone's men came in and made sure their distributors were the only ones working the neighborhood. Was my dad a gangster? How does one know? Business is business. You also have to look at Ayers in the context of history. I knew a guy at my school who later helped his friends bomb the ROTC building. He went to jail. Am I dangerous becaiuse I knew the guy? No one knew he was capable of that.Turns out, he never did anything bad once he got out. He lost friends in Vietnam and was angry as hell. Bad way to deal with it. Point is, you are tryibng to characterize O as a bad guy.Stick to issues. You repubs always want to smear smear smear. Women are begining to get scared of Palin's eccentric policies. She hires and fires at will and is someone who goes after anyone who disagrees with her.
VERRRRY Presidential. Oh yes, and I just love her new policy of making rape victims pay for their exams to the tune of $1200. JMJ!

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

"What backward community do you live in? It's probably somewhere in the deep south."

Hey! Now that's uncalled for. My wife is from Mississippi (BS in Computer Science, MBA) and I'm from Texas (BS in Forestry). Not all southerners are bigoted idiots like Chevy. Matter of fact, things are changing in Texas. Dallas County used to be 100% republican. At the 2006 midterm elections we threw out EVERY Republican in office; from District attorney to dog catcher. McCain and Frau Palin are going down. Along with dozens of Republican senators and congressmen in 2008

Posted by: Chris in Texas
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You liat. If what you stated were true you wou;d have spelled forest forrest you lyin POS

Chevy

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

The Republican dilemma: They can't have Student Palin and McCain campaign seperately because McCain still can't get anyone to show up at events, and despite being a pitbull, moosehunting, sarcastic, know-it-all (at least at the RNC) Student Palin cannot be left alone. He must shadow her creepily at a 3 foot distance. All the while, not a single policy initiative is spoken.

Posted by: ironhorse | September 13, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

"What backward community do you live in? It's probably somewhere in the deep south."

Hey! Now that's uncalled for. My wife is from Mississippi (BS in Computer Science, MBA) and I'm from Texas (BS in Forestry). Not all southerners are bigoted idiots like Chevy. Matter of fact, things are changing in Texas. Dallas County used to be 100% republican. At the 2006 midterm elections we threw out EVERY Republican in office; from District attorney to dog catcher. McCain and Frau Palin are going down. Along with dozens of Republican senators and congressmen in 2008

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Does experience watching the Travel Channel count? Or, is that already included in Palin's travel experiences?

Posted by: somerseten


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Now that's funny.

Posted by: Langx | September 13, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a mulim and hates America. I guess that makes HIM a foreign policy expert...

But I digress. What is surprisingly absent here is draft dodger Joe.

It is a mark of desperation that the left has skipped over ol deferment Joe and gone directly to Palin vs obama.

What will be interesting will be the obama/Palin debates. The left, goofy as they are, does not dare to allow Biden in an unscripted free flowing exchange of ideas. It will be bad enough to see B Hussein without a script, but Biden would be the death knell.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I was at a catered event this weekend. All of the help is young black men.
I discreetly asked each of them if they were registered to vote. If not, I quietly told them that this will probably be the most important thing that they will ever do, and it is very much in their own self-interest to register and vote for Obama.
They all understood what I was talking about.

Posted by: Tomhere | September 13, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes humor can tell the truth.

"Well, it's a very strange political campaign. I mean, out on the campaign trail, John McCain and Sarah Palin are talking about how they stood up to the Republican party, they fought the Republican establishment, and they battled Republicans. Their message: vote Republican."
---Jay Leno

So why would anyone vote Republican.

What Republicans are they going to reform.

Posted by: Langx | September 13, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Student Palin's grade, F. Teacher comment: she did not demonstrate good comprehension of the material. I recommend that she repeat a grade until she is ready.

Posted by: ironhorse | September 13, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

To. Stacy:

I am more afraid of the fundamentalist christian terrorists (some of whom are here commenting) than I am islamic terrorists.

Posted by: empi | September 13, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Does experience watching the Travel Channel count? Or, is that already included in Palin's travel experiences?

Posted by: somerseten | September 13, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin, a woman who cleaned house within her own party and has sent the crooks to prison

Palin, a woman who enjoys making love, evidenced by her 5 kids with one just being born.

Palin, a woman who gets up at 4am and goes Moose hunting then comes home and cleans her high powered rifle.

Make no mistake; this is a MAN’S-WOMAN!

Sarah if by chance you read this request my IP and send me a pair of used undies..unwashed

Chevy – Educated Redneck


Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Guys. I am an independent. And it's terrible to see the arguments back and forth.

Can we agree that

a) We all love this country

b) We do not want innocent people to die - both at home and in the rest of the world

c) We want a more prosperous and safer america


Now, after going through all the facts, I cannot see how John McCain and Palin can accomplish that.

They will continue to borrow and spend, worsening our deficit and weakening our dollar

I suspect they will go to war with Iran under pressure from defense contractor and arm manufacturer lobbyists.

They will take our health care dollars


They will get conservative judges appointed and will repeal Roe v Wade, so women cannot choose any more, creating more welfare recipients

PLEASE PLEASE do the right thing, No one's perfect and certainly Obama is not, but the policies on the democrats side is better this time than the republicans.

Enough of George W Bush's legacy. WE need to move on.

Posted by: Sean | September 13, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Student Palin, did you actually read the book? Oh wait, what...she wasn't giving a book report on a book she hadn't read? She's running for what?

Posted by: Ironhorse | September 13, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"I think the worst thing in the world must be having to live in the skin of Bush, and Cheney".

HA! Do you think that they actually CARE about the "working folk" that they pretend to represent? These are the people that gave us Enron and Worldcom, you know, the fiascos that robbed thousands of "working folk" of their hard earned pensions? And now that they don't have pensions, they've run up $10 TRILLION in debt so that these same "working folk" won't have social security or medicare when they need it (and they're going to CUT TAXES !!! hahahAhahaha). And while they were screwing the "working folk" they popped their golden parachutes and retired to their mansions in the Hamptons. Yeah, that's looking out for "joe sixpack". BTW, I've worked hard for everything I've ever gotten, like my father and his father before him. And I'm a democrat. I didn't have my life served to me on a silver spoon like the Republican leadership. I earned my life, they inherited theirs.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin, here and gone ...

She was a two-week wonder, coming out of nowhere on a bridge to nowhere, beginning her public debut with lies and sarcasm, quickly catching people's attention.

And then it all started to collapse.

Too many lies, too much mess, too many questions by uppity citizens who want to know something about a possible vice president that nobody in the Lower 49 knew before August 29th. John McCane cynically miscalculated, sold his soul to the "Agents of Intolerance," for his only possible shot at the presidency in the wake of eight of the worst years of any administration, our country pulled into a rat hole by his party with his complicity.

So long, Sarah, back to your small paranoid world. It was, well, interesting, while you skidded across the big stage.

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 13, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

It's comical to see obama-haters shivering in their chairs for so long that they can come up with such non-sensical posts.

I believe we should be focusing on the issues. Why won't the obama-haters focus on the issues? Do they not know the issues? Do they not care? Do they recognize that McCain doesn't have substantive plans with regard to the issues? What is it?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

viejo1 wrote,

Judging by your nonsensical, semi-literate post, you must be a witch doctor.
A stupid one.
___________________________________________

For starters, it's a certainty that I am smarter than you and have a better educational pedigree.

Now that the obvious is out of the way, you sure can slime and hurl insults at other people's post. Typical dead-ender Republican. What backward community do you live in? It's probably somewhere in the deep south. If in the DC tri-state area, I can guess in some exurb in Virginia with your large sized SUV/pick-up truck, ugly McMansion in a soulless community.

People like you have been left behind. Sorry bub, you're antiquated. Indians, Asians, and other foreigners are here taking white collar jobs, while people like you are spewing venom while you think nostalgically of the "good ole" days.

Go crawl to Alabama or Mississippi where your rhetoric is appreciated.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey, she can see Russia from Alaska and that makes her a foreign policy expert. She also flew over a bunch of countries, and likely looked out the window, which makes her well-traveled and cultured.

I can see the moon at night, I AM AN ASTRONAUT!!! Maybe I'll run from VP! NASA here I come!

Posted by: ironhorse | September 13, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama's swan song
A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How Karl Marx used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those morons dance
And, maybe, they’d be happy for a while.

But McCain and Palin made me shiver
With every lie that I’d deliver.
Bad news in the polls;
I depended so much on the trolls.

I can’t remember if I lied
When I bragged about my audacious pride,
But something touched me deep inside
The day my campaign died.

So bye-bye to the left wing lie
You trusted your bs to the Times,
But the gray lady had died.
And them tired old libs were drinkin’ koolaid and my,
They were singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Did you write the book of hope,
And do you have faith in all those dopes,
If Oprah tells you so?

Do you believe in Barack and Joe,
Can welfare save your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to think real slow?

Well, I know that you’re in love with him
`cause clearly you are steeped in sin.
You both turned on the tube.
Man, thank you for FoxNews

You were a lonely teenage liberal puke
With naïve ideals and anti-nuke,
But I knew you would be rebuked
The day his campaign died.

So bye-bye to the left wing lie
You trusted your bs to the Times,
But the gray lady had died.
And them tired old libs were drinkin’ koolaid and my,
They were singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

.

Now for eight years we’ve been on our own
And ideas come slow when you are stoned,
But that’s not how it used to be.
When Rather sang for you and me,
In a format he borrowed from his pc
It all rang false to you and me,

Oh, and while the right was looking down,
The left conjured up a clown.
Common sense was then adjourned;
The goofiness had returned.

And while young Hussein read a book of marx,
His wife damned America, his preacher snarked
And they sang dirges in the dark
The day your campaign died.

So bye-bye to the left wing lie
You trusted your bs to the Times,
But the gray lady had died.
And them tired old libs were drinkin’ koolaid and my,
They were singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Helter skelter, my polls have sagged.
Obama’s jet flew off without a flag,
Eight miles high and falling fast.
The left landed foul opon the grass.
Ms Couric ran out of gas,
With Olberman sidelined finally at last.

Now the on air debate was sweet perfume
When Palin spoke, Biden was doomed.
We all got up to dance,
Oh, but we never got the chance!
`cause the liberals tried to take the field;
But America flat refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed
The day his campaign died?

So bye-bye to the left wing lie
You trusted your bs to the Times,
But the gray lady had died.
And them tired old libs were drinkin’ koolaid and my,
They were singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Oh, and there we were all in one place,
A nomination lost in space
With no time left to start again.
So come on: joe be nimble, joe be quick!
Chris Matthews sat on a candlestick
Cause lying is the liberal’s only friend.

Oh, and as he watched Palin on the stage
His hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No socialist born in hell
Could break that right wing spell.

And as the votes climbed high into the night
To clinch the electorals, out of sight,
I saw America laughing with delight
The day his campaign died

So bye-bye to the left wing lie
You trusted your bs to the Times,
But the gray lady had died.
And them tired old libs were drinkin’ koolaid and my,
They were singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

I met a lib who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news,
But she just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the dailykos
Where I’d heard the lies before we lost,
But the man there said, please just go away.

And in the streets: the leftists screamed,
The media sobbed, and the anarchists dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
The media grip had been broken.

And the three things I admired most:
The Times, CNN and Washington Post
They caught the last train for the coast
The day his campaign died.

So bye-bye to the left wing lie
You trusted your bs to the Times,
But the gray lady had died.
And them tired old libs were drinkin’ koolaid and my,
They were singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as an educated redneck.

Posted by: Some dude | September 13, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Palin's aides speak for Palin.

They have been saying she went to Iraq since shortly after her selection for VP was announced. She obviously should know that her aides said that, it has been widely publicized.

But she takes no steps to correct that misinformation? Really, she has done nothing wrong since she technically hasn't lied herself PERSONALLY? Give me a break.

And as long as the ticket is lying, does it matter which one is doing the lying? After seeing that virtually every ad has lies in it, and hearing lies from both of them virtually every day, why should the American people believe ANYTHING either one says?

Posted by: milo | September 13, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

chris- they are watching you in particular.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

It is impossible for a "Pathological Liar" to stop lying: see meaning below

A pathological liar is usually defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. Pathological lying is often viewed as coping mechanism developed in early childhood and it is often associated with some other type of mental health disorder. A pathological liar is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Pathological liars have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. A pathological liar often comes across as being manipulative, cunning and self-centered.

Posted by: usclown | September 13, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Notice how these freaks keep attacking me, spewing their hatred.

Not a ONE has offerd debate, but rather take to low road and personally attack me.

What lowlifes...All the same it's an exercize in futility as you're throwing spittballs at a BATTLESHIP.

Chevy - Educated Redneck & DEM Destroyer

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

This is a very sick lady.

And McCain deserves to be spit on.

Posted by: K Ackermann | September 13, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Palin served more time as Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard than Obama spent in the boy scouts.

Posted by: glido | September 13, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

"The Obama and McCain people have noticed that there are some world class posts on this blog and they are taking names."

Yeah. Thanks to the oxymoronic "Patriot Act". Pretty soon the Republicans will be using that to make sure you pray to their version of God before you go to bed every night.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

LET'S STAY ON SUBJECT HERE. McCain and Palin have been caught lying "AGAIN"!!! Complete campaign is farse and trying to take us away from thinking what Bush with approval and support from McCain did to this country. Palin keeps mentioning Hillary and experience of Obama, McCain keeps talking about himself and POW time, but they are not talking directly about problems that this country has and how they are going to eliminate it. Obama is real deal and he tells us how it is and how is it going to be. Keep telling the truth Barack and you shall be elected and liars will be eliminated along with their phonny stories and promises.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 13, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin? If Sarah had shot that lawyer he'd be dead!

Posted by: glido | September 13, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Geez, gone for an hour, come back and all of the paid Neo-Conjob posters are back. I guess it was shift change time in Asia. :)

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't lie, yeah right. Read this:

"Meet the Press, Tim Russert, ll/ll/07:

“Russert asked, “Is he (Rezko) still your friend?” Obama said, “You know, I have not talked to him since he got into trouble with the law.” Russert confirmed, “Period.” Obama said, “Never had a conversation with him.”

However, in the Chicago Sun-Times, 3/l5/08, this is what Obama says to a reporter’s question.

“Q. “Have you and Tony Rezko ever discussed this federal investigation that began to move against him or the criminal charges?”


“A. (Obama) Yes. When, I don’t remember exactly the dates, but I remember when we first contact about this story and the lot (2006), I called him to let him know that, “Look you may be getting inquiries about this and so it’s important for you to be able to talk to folks about your intentions in terms of development and so forth. At that point, I do remember saying to him how’s it going because I’m reading these problems. And his response was that his lawyers had been talking to the U. S. Attorney’s office and it’s all getting resolved. That was the sum total."

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

What the left can't accept ideologically, is that there are millions of working class right wing Americans who have made their own way or who are struggling every day. They despise the idea of handouts and assistance. Which, by the way, is not what made this country great. What made this country great was the efforts and sacrifices of everyday Americans who didn't ask for squat from anyone.

It was only after those efforts and sacrifices made this country great and prosperous that the modern left stepped in and started bleeding it off in order to buy votes to enrich themselves.

JFK would bitc*slap obama for being a useless punk.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Vote against John McCain. So incompetent he was captured by our enemies, not strong enough to resist singing like a bird, and so pathetic he was beaten by GW Bush -- the nation's worst president ever.

Posted by: rico | September 13, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I think the worst thing in the world must be having to live in the skin of Bush, and Cheney, (and the rest of the neocons), looking at the mess they created, having to delegate it's control to the equivalent of some stupid bloggers, and Eric Prince Blackwater types.

I was driving near my house the other day, and I saw a 97 Lexus take a left turn a little too fast, lurching to the left, then the right. They were IT business types inside, all wearing khakis and the blue shirts, so fat, they could barely fit in the car.


Just struck me as funny, they were so obtuse to their surrondings, and I've never seen so many fat men in one place --a Lexus.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse


Chevy must get extra McPoints for submitting his nasty horrible posts. He's up to a toaster with this thread alone.

McCain has gone too far. His campaign is lying about every single solitary thing that comes out. I always liked the guy but not now. He's stooping to new lows. It's ugly.

Posted by: bjalexa | September 13, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

You can force a community organizer to wear a flag pin, but he is still just a community organizer.

Posted by: glido | September 13, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Keep up the good work everyone. The Obama and McCain people have noticed that there are some world class posts on this blog and they are taking names.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Just announced:

"Russian troops withdraw in western Georgia"

-AFP 18 hours ago

Surely, the Russians were scared to death that Sarah Palin is coming to get them and they decided to get their a** out of Georgia in a hurry!

Just kidding... The withdrawal is part of the deal Russia struck with Europe. Where are our "leaders" on this?

Posted by: Regis Urgel | September 13, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

At last that miss Palin gets caught in her lies.The pitt bull is without her lipstick.

Posted by: sharon | September 13, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain will be elected and die, making Palin the first woman President.

Posted by: Kacoo | September 13, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama.

You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot and I pray the day we meet.

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Here is an interesting comparison. Palin is a working mother. Her husband is a commercial fisherman.

Obama is an ivy league grad who has never held a job. His wife - ditto.

Yet the "working man's" party is all over Palin and is using every manner of character assassination possible.

Who is more likely to keep middle class America in their thoughts? A middle class working couple or a privileged, pampered couple of parasites who think everyone is there to make their lives easy?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Chevy sweetie. I KNOW how to hate, and ADMIT that its HATE, unlike racist ingrates like you who hide behind "free speech". You are too coward even to admit your bias. I KNOW "HATE", AND I OWN UP TO IT, AND I "HATE" INBRED INGRATES LIKE YOU! Remember, it takes TWO, and there's always a counter party to yours.

Now go play some more sweetie. Mama needs her meds.

Posted by: Gal | September 13, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Remember the pastor who was calling the White House everyday to tell them the message from God! The pastor who came on TV to deny having sex with gay and using drugs... that pastor of 14,000 members Church! That evangelical and republican in good standing... And remember another Senator who goes to public restrooms to have... Remember Newt with family values but no values in his own family... Looks like LYING IS what unites neo-cons... Good republicans love values and love the truth. Let's see how they are going to react to pattern of lies from Ms. Palin.

Posted by: mpoly | September 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Mr PotatoHead98 and all you other racists trolls are losers...you slam Michelle Obama but the GOP has the worst possible women on its campaign...a drug addict, drug peddler possible first lady and a baby mama drama future grandma...and you guys have the nerve to criticize the black community for drug addiction and bastard children.

Palin and Cindy can not hold a candle to Michelle's intelligence and education. Your gun toting redneck went to six different colleges in six years and Cindy was a drug addict for most of her life all her brain cells are dead!

No thank you...you can't stick us with an old, PTSD, War-monger who doesn't care if WWIII happens because he has one foot in the grave.

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama.

You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot and I pray the day we meet.

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News -

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

We can see the lies and the mudslinging, as well as the spins from Mcsame Camps. What I observe so far from Palin is that she is trying to divide the democratic ticket and the country. She keeps referencing Obama choice of the VP as if it a bad Decision. Had obama chose Clinton to be his VP, Palin would not be in the National spotlight now. She would not see the light of day.

Posted by: Omidal | September 13, 2008 9:16 PM
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Instead, the GOP would be attacking Clinton--like in her statement about sniper fire in Bosnia--and calling her a liar. She would've mobilized the GOP base just as Palin has. Throw a conservative on the ticket--and that would have happened--and the GOP would have been doubly motivated to turn out. Hillary is their hate-magnet, remember?

The GOP would be issuing ad after ad using Clinton's own words from debates against Obama (something that has already happened). And the press would be all over the "all-Clinton-all-the-time" media circus, focusing on, "What crazy thing will Bill do next? Details at 11."

The fact is, Biden and Obama can work together. Clinton and Obama could not as well. (Obama wouldn't have been her pick, either.) Biden has a heavy burden to carry--he's got to come across as knowledgeable AND likable, and that will be hard for him. But if Obama is elected, he will make a better vice-president because Obama can trust him.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Why that is quite odd, during the Charles Gibson interview, he plainly asked her "have you ever visited out of the country?" her answer was "Mexico and Canada". She made no mention at all about the middle east.

Posted by: Percy Perewinkle the III | September 13, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Must See - PALIN SUPPORTS OBAMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO6dmBm1SFw

Google "youtube I'd vote for Obama" - If the link doesn't work.

Posted by: Stanley | September 13, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

This is beyond hypocracy! The American people don't deserve this!

What kind of sick freak show is McCain running?

He has shat all over himself and now he is playing in it.

He actually stuck his finger down the back of his diaper and then stuck that finger in Peg Bundy's mouth while Todd and the kids watched.

Posted by: K Ackermann | September 13, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

chevy - you are getting out of control. Ease up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how many racist morons actually know how to use a computer! Someone should tell McCain he really ought to keep up with his party here.

Posted by: Alan | September 13, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

potatohead, overt racism plus repug talking points only turns people off. Don't know what you think you will accomplish with this fear mongering and hatred, but dude it simply is not working.

Posted by: jimimosey | September 13, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

To Grim Reaper: A very good point you made about McCain's father dying of a heart attack at 70 and his grandfather dying of one at 61. I read not long ago that a study reported in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences makes a case that, if life span is inherited, it comes through the father, not the mother.

Posted by: LIly | September 13, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

I read all the posts that said that Palin lied about Iraq. In my last post here I mentioned that Palin never said she went to Iraq.

So some anonymous Obamabot said Palin lies because a McCain aide said she went to Iraq.

What's wrong with this picture?

Palin NEVER said she went to Iraq. So an aide said it, so. Big deal. Palin never said it.

How many aides lie for Obama. Many. They all cover for him.

They're covering up his ties with Rezko, Ayres, the Chicago Combine, Auchi, Alsammarae, etc.

You're talking about Palin and the state trooper investigation, and earmarks. Did you know Obama and Howard Dean were subpoenaed on 9/4/08?

On 9/10/08, in a US Federal Court the lawyer petitioned the judge to have the Discovery and Depositions expedited before the General Election in November?

The Obama MSM surrogates will never report or mention this lawsuit.

Just like they won't mention that Obama and Ayres go back to the early 1980's. Just like they won't say that Obama's roommate and friend back then were Pakistanis, Rezko is a Syrian, Auchi and Alsammarae are Iraqi. Ayres is a terrorist who wished he had bombed more. Frank Davis was into liberation theology and Marxism. Reverend Wright & Farrakhan and black liberation theology.

Do you notice a pattern to Obama's friends and associates.

When is the MSM going to do their job.

They should be in Chicago looking into all these connections.

Obama lied about Rezko, wrote 5 letters for him, yeah right. He was Obama's major fundraiser. Rezko borrowed 3.5 million from an Iraqi, a month before he and Obama bought the mansion and lot together.

You people better stop drinking the Koolaid and wake up!

Posted by: J | September 13, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

People, who CARES about Frau "duck and cover" Palin. She's a incompetent twit. Her only value is as a distraction and she's performing her task better than any task she performed as mayor of Cecily er, Wasilla, AK.

The target is McCain! Keep your focus on him! He can't stand on his record. He even admits to not knowing anything about economics. His only claim to fame is a stint in a Vietnamese POW camp and he's been flogging that horse for 20 years. My brother served in Vietnam in '65 and '66 and would NEVER use that experience in such a blatantly self-serving way. Go after him on it. Let Biden go after the doofus from Alaska.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Here is something even more pathetic. When members of the left wing congress clearly violate US code by going abroad to discuss American policy.

That this purple lipped race baiting hate monger goes outside of Chicago and discusses anything is disgusting.

He mo more represents America than do the vacuous twits on the View.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

This just keeps getting more and more frightening. It feels like we are in some kind of twisted made for tv movie where the world is controlled by Nazi's or robots. We are starting to really see the difference also, between fairly logical Republicans who are now scratching their heads and doing the RIGHT thing and voting for OBAMA, voting Independent, or simply not voting at all, and the completely psychotic evangelicals who still think she's "likeable". GOD could come down and say she's lying and a demon in disguise, but these people will continue to believe the McCain camp and Palin. Completely INSANE!

Posted by: GIA | September 13, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin in her remarks claimed to have visited Kuwait where she did in fact go to visit members of the Alaskan National Guard. It strikes me as pathetic that the liberal media and far left whack jobs accuse Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin of distorting the truth when any one with half a brain can see the truth. You sound as convincing as a crack addict saying they never touch the stuff.

Posted by: Jack | September 13, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

“STARVE THE BABY TO DEATH…. IF BORN ALIVE” Obama Illinois State Legislature

FACT: When givin the choice in the Illinois state legislature NObama says “KILL THE BABY” if born alive.

FACT: This is MURDER under the Federal Equal Protection act.

If a baby was born alive during a botched abortion they would just let the baby lay there until it starved to death.

FACT Obama while in the Ill. state legistature stopped a bill coming to the floor that would allow the baby to live once it came out of the womb.

When Obama left that same bill came back to the floor and Illinois passed it by a unanimous vote.

This bill is identical to the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which passed the U.S. Senate in 2002

You DEMS going to tell me NObama isn't a sick individual?

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Ignore Obama - his words are unimportant and empty.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

HEY!!

Bristol has decided what to name her BABY--"Abstinence"

Posted by: Lindsey Lohan | September 13, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Chevy is a sick individual.

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You DEMS going to tell me NObama isn't a sick individual?

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: J Carville | September 13, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Potatohead, WTF? Reports keep showing lie after lie after lie coming from your campaign and the best you can do is use Sen. Obama's middle name like we're supposed to all be scared? Sad little minds...

Posted by: jimimosey | September 13, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

“KILL THE BABY IF BORN ALIVE” Obama Illinois State Legislature

FACT: When givin the choice in the Illinois state legislature NObama says “KILL THE BABY” if born alive.

FACT: This is MURDER under the Federal Equal Protection act.

If a baby was born alive during a botched abortion they would just let the baby lay there until it starved to death.

FACT Obama while in the Ill. state legistature stopped a bill coming to the floor that would allow the baby to live once it came out of the womb.

When Obama left that same bill came back to the floor and Illinois passed it by a unanimous vote.

This bill is identical to the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which passed the U.S. Senate in 2002

You DEMS going to tell me NObama isn't a sick individual?

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin used her office to break up an ol boys network which was protecting an out of control thug with a badge who tasered a 10 year old child.

Too bad the child wasn't black - then the left could applaud such an action.

I guess the 10 yo had it coming.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse


NO MORE STOOOOOOPID PRESIDENTS!!!

8 Years has been enough, thank you.

Posted by: jason | September 13, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Chevy,

Are you in the KKK?

=================================
"I really do need to understand how you can support someone who just hucked a luggi at your entire family.

Why isn’t the Washington post demanding he clarify his racist remark?

Chevy – Educated Redneck"

Posted by: J Carville | September 13, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

J Carville

Ignore "Chevy" - his words are unimportant.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

McCain hasn't held an open press conference in a month

It was McCain who suggested a series of debates - but obama became frightened and hid behind Chris Matthew's shirts. Ok for Matthews, I guess, it put a hel* of a tingle up his leg...

Also your brave candidate took over 8 months to screw up the courage to appear on the most viewed tv show with the widest audience in America. What's little Barry afraid of?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Throughout her political career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials.

But an examination of her swift rise and record as mayor of Wasilla and then governor finds that her visceral style and penchant for attacking critics — she sometimes calls local opponents "haters" — contrasts with her carefully crafted public image.

Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Palin doesnt need to worry about visiting Iraq, she needs to worry about visiting her SHRINK, because she is definitely DUE for a visit!
She is so spoon-fed on the Rove doctrine, and so aggressively obstinent to any questions, that she is REALLY starting to bug me! Just listening to that snide, nasal Minnesota Maaam accent is making me want to hurl my cookies! Sarah- your 15 minutes are UP!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

jjchicago:And the compulsive lying to pair...They are not compulsive lairs they are "Pathological Liars" see meaning below

A pathological liar is usually defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. Pathological lying is often viewed as coping mechanism developed in early childhood and it is often associated with some other type of mental health disorder. A pathological liar is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Pathological liars have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. A pathological liar often comes across as being manipulative, cunning and self-centered.

Posted by: americans40bama | September 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

So, let's see, two lost wars which are breaking the US, neither of which the oil people WANTED to lose, the economy facing catastrophe, and here they are, completely focused on electing one or the other presidential candidate, none of which anyone cares about, at all.

Pssst...wrong war.

Again.

Stupid twits.

NO wonder you are SUCH a smashing success, you cant define the problem.

For the record, it appears the "Republicans" are gaming Obama the same way Obama and the Republicans, um, "gamed" Clinton in the primaries, ie, it kinda looks fixed, already.

Though I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the majority of the liberal posts on this site is that they really can't handle the truth.

Conservatives very politely state facts while the die hard liberals come back with there obvious pent up hatred and spew insidious remarks that are not fact based and a product of their imagination.

The facts are Obama associated with radicals, was a follower of Sol Linsky, a known communist, received contributions from William Ayers during Obamas campaign for the Illinois State Senate, had shady dealings and provided favors to Rezko a slum landlord and convicted felon, spent 20 years at a black liberation militant church and conveniently dropped out when the heat was on and most recently has back tracked on virtually every stand he took during his primary campaign.

These are facts and if you don't believe it, do a little research before you comeback with your vitriolic attacks that sound like hounds barking in the dark. Some of you out there are so pathetic its pitiful as Mr T would say

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: MrPotatoHead98 | September 13, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Don't we deserve an intelligent, well-traveled, respected, intellectually able president after 8 years of Dumbya??

If wanting that makes me a liberal, well then go ahead a slap that label on me--I will wear it like a badge of honor

Posted by: Jack | September 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

If you think the Obama people arn't out pounding the pavement, you haven't been paying attention. Yes, it is difficult. All McCain has to do is whine about being a p.o.w. and Palin just blabs how she's just not very smart, like her supporters.

Posted by: doug | September 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain hasn't held an open press conference in a month, they are only allowing hand-picked interviews with Palin. According to McCain's youTube page they have released 28 attacks ads in that span.

Does the GOP really expect to hide for 7 weeks, not talk about the issues and actually win this thing? I hope they don't think the American public is that stupid.

Posted by: RyanD. | September 13, 2008 8:47 PM
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Yes, they do expect to hide. They expect to repeat "patriotic" and empty platitudes, then Swiftboat the Democrats--both Obama and many legislative candidates. And they expect to win--without having to confront their failures.

Yes, they do think the American public is that stupid. It has worked before.

Will the American public be fooled again? Or will there be moral outrage and a backlash the likes of which haven't been seen in this country since the protests of Vietnam? Do fiscal conservatives, "Goldwater" Republicans and moderate Republicans really want this kind of country? Where nothing gets done election cycle after election cycle? Where money is wasted and yet people's needs go unmet--and discourse borders on violent?

It may be up to Republicans to save their own country. Will they step up and say no to these smears? I'll be very curious to see. The GOP may be made up of Republicans, but I'm starting to believe--from conversations with friends and family--that not all Republicans are of the GOP.

Posted by: tellthetruth | September 13, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

We can see the lies and the mudslinging, as well as the spins from Mcsame Camps. What I observe so far from Palin is that she is trying to divide the democratic ticket and the country. She keeps referencing Obama choice of the VP as if it a bad Decision. Had obama chose Clinton to be his VP, Palin would not be in the National spotlight now. She would not see the light of day.

Posted by: Omidal | September 13, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Liars, Liars, Liars and Liars. The reason why McCain picked her was because he doesn't know how to use the computer or send emails. He believes in everything this lady said to him and didn't know that the world is changing and the technology is against them. How can this lady full of pork money in her pockets decided to lie to her base? Ooops, lying is one of the values of the Republican Party. They said that they are against gays, but they introduced pages to "gayism". They said that they hate "pork" money but they are spending pork money. They said that they have been in Irak but they stopped at the border! They said "Thanks but No Thanks to pork money but they love "pork money and spend them. Everything that comes out of McCain-Palin mouth is lie and lie. McCain is allergic to the truth.

Posted by: Paul/ Chantilly-Virginia | September 13, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Jim C, the 80,000 that were at Obama's speech in Denver are just a teeny tiny fraction of the army that will be out on his behalf. BTW -- many Obama stickers in red, red SD but I have yet to see a McCAin.

Posted by: REady Set Go | September 13, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Sarah Palin is the REAL BRIDGE TO NOWHERE....

Posted by: timka | September 13, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Her 15 minutes are up.
Sarah Palin is McCain's "Michael Brown" - I can see him standing next to her in a year saying "Your doing a great job Palin-ie" This is no different than a patronage appointment except Michael Brown had the courage to talk to the media without 13 days of rehearsal

Posted by: JH | September 13, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Her lies keep piling up. She is pathological. In addition her shoot first ask questions later style of governing coupled with her authoratarian vendettas against her political opponents is scary. This is not a person we want a heart beat from the presidency. The sad thing is that because many conservatives are sure the media is "liberally" biased they will feel free to dismiss any information that contradicts her carefully crafted image of a "hockey mom". This election is really looking more and more like the GOP have put up a recycled Bush/Cheney ticket.

Posted by: birdman | September 13, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

LOL!! John Stewart showed a great video the other week, showing Carl Rove and others COMPLETELY contradicting themselves over and over. They truly give new meaning to the word HYPOCRITE!!

These guys are so in the gutter, that it just dosent get any lower. Let's focus on getting all of these SOBs out of office as quickly as we can.

Posted by: sam | September 13, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Ken,

I don't think it's that McCain couldn't find a more qualified running mate. I don't believe that anyone qualified WANTED to run with him. His peers do not respect him because he is worthless in the Senate(oh yeah, he's a "maverick"), and none of them want to commit political suicide by running with him. Would we be having these conversations if the ticket were McCain/Hutchinson? No, but Kay Bailey is way too smart to run with a incompetent like McCain. He had to draft a complete moron who was stupid enough to run with him and had nothing to lose by doing so. If fact, when McCain loses in November the only winner on the ticket will be Frau Palin. Remember, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

you might be a redneck if...you hate all black people and believe all muslims are terrorist.
you might be a redneck if... you believe Jesus only loves white people.
you might be a redneck if...the more you think the less brain cells you have.
you might be a redneck...if you believ only what you want to hear, not what is the truth
you might be a redneck...if you love violence for no other reason but ammusement.
you might be a redneck if..your a registered republican and you wear cowboy outfits at there national convention
you might be a redneck if...you can't remember how many trailer homes you own.
you might be a redneck if...you know ever line from the movie, "URBAN COWBOY."
you might be a redneck if...you watch FOX NEWS and believe everythign they tell you.

Posted by: kubrickstan | September 13, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

NObama threatens the Media

Obama not only aired a response ad to the spot linking him to William Ayers, but he sought to block stations the commercial by warning station managers and asking the Justice Department to intervene. The campaign also planned to compel advertisers to pressure stations that continue to air the anti-Obama commercial. Ref. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92PL7400&show_article=1

NObama - You cannot hide your past and who you are.

We know for fact you personally befriended Ayres and even worked for him

Lets not forget your refusal to wear an American flag on your lapel.

Refusal to cross your heart during the pledge of allegiance

the church of HATE you hand picked and attended for 20 years. No, no, no, no, no, it's God Damn America.

In summary: NObama is proof how low the democratic party has degenerated to.

NObama...

Your Chickenssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Are Coming Hommmmmmmmmmmmmmmme

To Rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooost

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Putting the words "educated redneck" together shows you are one but not the other. Not only does Palin sound like Jackie on "the 70's show", she sounds about as smart. The supposed war hero really showed his judgement when he chose her. Too bad it's so easy to get the stupid vote in this country. The repubs can win but look what you get when they do. McCain is desperate. The debates will tell alot about the vision of McCain. The only advice i have for Obama if he wins is keep your head down.

Posted by: jim | September 13, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Apparently it's a shock for the Obama people, but to win an election in America, you actually have to go out and WORK for it.

You've spent months congratulating yourselves on how intelligent you are. In fact Obama is the ONLY intelligent one, he built up an insurmountable lead in Republican states where the only Democrats are blacks and college town whites. By the time Hillary figured this out, it was too late.

Now you're in a national campaign where the whole people vote and not just people like you.

You need to hit the bricks and convince people UNLIKE you that Obama would be a better president than McCain.

I suspect most of you would rather just sit behind your computers and snipe.

Losers.

Posted by: Jim C | September 13, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin = Cheney + Rummy + Libby + Brown + Gonzales. She will further damage and destroy the FDA, EPA, FEMA, Justice dept and take us down even further than Cheney/Bush have. McCain is ofcourse running against himself and has changed his policies on immigration, tax cuts, religion, energy etc. MCCAIN HAS ALREADY LOST by selling his character and moral grounding to the ULTRA-right wing of GOP. He is now completely overshadowed by Palin.

Posted by: Chris Smith | September 13, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

The posters that hate their country are those who know they are wrong and will vote with what we have had the last 8 years because they can't be wrong, even though they are.

It is time for a change, this might have been a small lie, but a small lie in an ocean of untruth is all the same.

McCain's campaign is all about lies, that has all it has been the last month. It is getting tiresome.

As far as the polls, if I were the Republicans I would be very afraid. What is polling is not going to be voting, in the same numbers, as those looking for a change.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | September 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Quite amazing to think that the RepubliCONS have this little respect for the intelligence of Americans, that they would pull something like this. Sarah Palin is a fine,likeable person, but she has about as much business running the White House as Paris Hilton! Seriously-- our country is falling apart folks, we need to stop allowing ourselves to be distracted by this CIRCUS, and focus on how we are going to fix the damage of the last 8 years.

I am literally afraid it is so grave, that it may be too late.

Posted by: TomL | September 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

ON FACE THE NATION
Rove singled out Virginia governor Tim Kaine, also a Face The Nation guest, as an example of such a pick.

"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."

Rove continued: "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"

Posted by: JH | September 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

ken - that "publicity stunt" is going to kick your goofy, terrorist loving, racist candidates as*.

You can't even see it coming.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

From NYT:
"When there was a vacancy at the top of the Alaska State Division of Agriculture, she (Palin) appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency"

Guess McCain/Palin won't waste anytime hiring "Brownie" back to FEMA (or his ilk)

Posted by: More of the same | September 13, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

"I've now been in 59 states, I think one left to go. Alaska and Mexico" Barry Obama - LATimes

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html

LOL and the little libbies wonder why Racist Barry Obama is tanking.

LOL LOL 59 states with Mexico being one of them?

Just Brilliant Barry

Chevy - Highly Educated Redneck


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the majority of the liberal posts on this site is that they really can't handle the truth.

Conservatives very politely state facts while the die hard liberals come back with there obvious pent up hatred and spew insidious remarks that are not fact based and a product of their imagination.

The facts are Obama associated with radicals, was a follower of Sol Linsky, a known communist, received contributions from William Ayers during Obamas campaign for the Illinois State Senate, had shady dealings and provided favors to Rezko a slum landlord and convicted felon, spent 20 years at a black liberation militant church and conveniently dropped out when the heat was on and most recently has back tracked on virtually every stand he took during his primary campaign.

These are facts and if you don't believe it, do a little research before you comeback with your vitriolic attacks that sound like hounds barking in the dark. Some of you out there are so pathetic its pitiful as Mr T would say

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

After over 4300 dead Americans, over 40000 injured, hundred of thousand innocent Iraqis dead and hundred of billions spent, the Iraqi government with the blessing of the Iranian canceled the only face-saving "gain" of this misadventure, the oil contracts the Bush administration pressured the Iraqis to award Exxon/Mobile/Shell and awarded the entire contract to the Chinese!

Way to go McCain/Bush!

Posted by: M Willey | September 13, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:03 PM
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Oh, that's rich. Your desperation is showing. She got caught slinging bs and you demand that everyone just look the other way. What about her lies about being against the bridge to no where after she was pulling hard for it, not to mention how she's still pushing the project?

I guess we need to just ignore that too, huh?
Not gonna happen.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'd like my VP to know the difference between Kuwait and Iraq. This pick is just making McCain's judgment look worse and worse...

Posted by: Gregory | September 13, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

So, who decided to boot hillary? Was it obama or the left wing hate machine?

Whose idea was it to choose an old white male member of the establishment - for "change?"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Kim - how do you know who Palin is? NO ONE including McCain knows. She DOES NOT SPEAK and when she does it's scripted Republican double-speak

Posted by: JH | September 13, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"I've now been in 59 states, I think one left to go. Alaska and Mexico" Barry Obama - LATimes

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html

LOL and the little libbies wonder why Racist Barry Obama is tanking.

LOL LOL 59 states with Mexico being one of them?

Just Brilliant Barry

Chevy - Highly Educated Redneck

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh SWEET BABY JESUS!!

Is this lady a moron or what?? McCain, you have lost all respect from me and my fellow Republicans. We just cannot believe you would by-pass so many qualified people to pull what amounts to a complete publicity stunt.

Yes, I would prefer to see a Republican in office, but I also have a conscience and a brain in my head, and there is no way in HELLL that I will see you or this numb skull running my country.
SHAME on you for pandering to the religious nuts and putting your country at such risk.

Posted by: Ken | September 13, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Don't waste your eyes on Chevy "Anonymous" -- there are many thoughtful posts amongst the chaff . . . and so little time to read them all. Intelligent people can disagree - and many of them do on WAPO.

Posted by: To Real Dale | September 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Equality is a lie…A myth to appease the masses. Simply look around and you will see the lie for what it is! There are those with power, those with the strength and will to lead. And there are those meant to follow—those incapable of anything but servitude and a meager, worthless existence.
"Equality is a perversion of the natural order!…It binds the strong to the weak. They [the weak] become anchors that drag the exceptional down to mediocrity. Individuals destined and deserving of greatness have it denied them. They [the strong] suffer for the sake of keeping them even with their inferiors.
"Equality is a chain, like obedience. Like fear or uncertainty or self doubt."

GOP PLATFORM 2008

Posted by: SID | September 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"I've now been in 59 states, I think one left to go. Alaska and Mexico" Barry Obama - LATimes

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html

LOL and the little libbies wonder why Racist Barry Obama is tanking.

LOL LOL 59 states with Mexico being one of them?

Just Brilliant Barry

Chevy - Highly Educated Redneck

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Alan thinks the interview is all there is: "Actually, in Gov. Palin's interview with Charles Gibson, she was quite clear that her visit was to Kuwait. No claim of going to Iraq. The campaign operatives just made a mistake -- the official word of the candidate is there for all to hear"

I agree, the interview doesn't state that. So it's just a mistake, give her the benefit of the doubt, just like the Republicans are giving Obama the full benefit of the doubt on the "lipstick on a pig" controversy, right? LOL!

Unfortunately, the ABC interview was not the only time the "visit to Iraq" and "visit to Ireland" line has been used by Palin's campaign. The campaign has deliberately used it previously as a talking point to sell Palin's foreign-policy credentials and bamboozle simple people who need more convincing of how worldly wise she must be.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, shading the truth, Republicans shading the truth, where has that gotten us?
Oh, how about 1 war, a different view of the constitution, Secret prisons, spying on ones own countrymen and the list goes on and on, we won't even talk Haliburton.

Now the MSM is trying to make it seem that the country loves Palin, loves the garbage that McCain is spewing.

If we have even another 4 years of lies, deceit, and scandal we will be even more a laughing stock to the world than we are now.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | September 13, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Chevy,

Please stop posting your racist slander. It's offensive and does not relate to any relevant issues.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

A Plain aide made a mistake and her campaign corrected it.

That is a far cry from some of the whoppers Obama has PERSONALLY put out.

You know, like legislation he claims to have authored and had nothing to do with it - or the mythical banking committee he told the adoring crowds in Germany he was on.

Keep picking nits, obamarats - you are only digging your hole deeper.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous===that is about the speed of the Republican lie machine. Throw a stink bomb anonymously and hope somebody believes it. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was involved with the Weathermen. Do you propose that you no longer speak to people who ever did anything wrong? Just because people who you know through doing good things once did bad things doesn't make them bad now, or you. That is the past. What matters now is all the lying that Palin and mcCain are doing right now, while pretending to be reformers. Just when I thought the Republicans couldn't come up with somebody dumber and more dishonest than george W. Bush, they find two people to put on the ballot that fit that description.

Posted by: The Real Dale | September 13, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

yadisharma

Exactly. Frau Palin is the distraction that McCain needed to remove attention from his ineptitude and the media and Obama fell for it hook, line, and sinker. No wonder he just stands behind her grinning. He is and was a do-nothing drone in the Senate for 20 years. The sooner Obama realizes it the sooner we can put the old coot out of his misery once and for all (I'm 55, BTW, so I feel it's ok for me to be an "ageist"). Let Palin implode on her own over the next 7 weeks. The target is McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Nobama - Why didn't you bother to see American wounded troops in Germany who are doing what America asked of them?

You were over there Obama.

You didn't have time to see our wounded and dying men in uniform fighting for the country you want to be president of?

You really are one sick SOB. The lowest of the lows

Make no mistake, in my book you're a maggot and I pray the day we meet.

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News -

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

"We know who McCain and Palin are and we will vote them into Oval office." - posted by Kim
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That is indeed the miracle of this election. You know how flawed and dangerous these people are, but because you've identified your crazy religious beliefs with their crazy political beliefs, you'll keep voting until this country goes up in flames. I guess it's to vindicate yourselves for being the butt of jokes and being considered socially annoying for so long. I guess destroying the country is your revenge.

Posted by: Suicidal Voters | September 13, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

She's been the candidate for 15 days and done ONE unscripted interview and that one was well rehearsed. Who's the candidate? Palin or Rove's speech writers? She's a REPUBLICAN ROBOT

She'll get attacked on these issues UNTIL SHE SPEAKS - and then she'll either prove she's worth the job or not - BUT SHE DOESN"T SPEAK

Posted by: JH | September 13, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Alan | September 13, 2008 8:54 PM
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From the Boston Globe: "Following her selection last month as John McCain's running mate, aides said Palin had traveled to Ireland, Germany, Kuwait, and Iraq to meet with members of the Alaska National Guard. During that trip she was said to have visited a "military outpost" inside Iraq. The campaign has since repeated that Palin's foreign travel included an excursion into the Iraq battle zone."


--- Whattaya say to that?

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

The NYT reports that both her term as mayor and her short stint as governor are best summed up as secretive and vicious retribution towards opponents. Perfect match to be the third term of bush/cheney. And the compulsive lying to pair with the horrid judgment of McCain? Folks, here is a recipe for biblical disaster.

Posted by: moondancer | September 13, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Leadership does not mean domination. The world is always well supplied with people who wish to rule and dominate others.

The true leader is a different sort; he seeks effective activity which has a truly beneficient purpose. He inspires others to follow in his wake, and holding aloft the torch of wisdom, leads the way for society to realize its genuinely great aspirations.

The art of leadership is in the ability to make people want to work for you, while they are really under no obligation to do so. Leaders are people, who raise the standards by which they judge themselves and by which they are willing to be judged. The goal chosen, the objective selected, the requirements imposed, are not mainly for their followers alone.

They develop with consumate energy and devotion, their own skill and knowledge in order to reach the standard they themselves have set.

This whole-hearted acceptance of the demands imposed by even higher standards is the basis of all human progress. A love of higher quality, we must remember, is essential in a leader.

The true leader is one who realizes by faith that he is an instrument in the hands of God, and dedicates himself to be a guide and inspirer of the nobler sentiments and aspirations of the people.

He who would be a leader must pay the price in self-discipline and moral restraints. This details the correction and improvement of his personal character, the checking of passions and desires and an exemplary control of one's bodily needs and desires.

To be first in place, one must be first in merit as well.

He who has not learned to render prompt and willing service to others will find it difficult to win and keep the goodwill and cooperation of his subordinates.

A leader will kindle interest, teach, aid, correct and inspire. Those whom he leads will cooperate with him in maintaining discipline for the good of the group. He will instruct his followers in the goals towards which to strive, and create in them a sense of mutual effort for attaining the goal.

Words of H.I.M. Haile Selassie I

Posted by: Tony | September 13, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

“KILL THE BABY IF BORN ALIVE” Obama Illinois State Legislature

FACT: When givin the choice in the Illinois state legislature NObama says “KILL THE BABY” if born alive.

FACT: This is MURDER under the Federal Equal Protection act.

If a baby was born alive during a botched abortion they would just let the baby lay there until it starved to death.

FACT Obama while in the Ill. state legistature stopped a bill coming to the floor that would allow the baby to live once it came out of the womb.

When Obama left that same bill came back to the floor and Illinois passed it by a unanimous vote.

This bill is identical to the federal Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which passed the U.S. Senate in 2002

You DEMS going to tell me NObama isn't a sick individual?

Chevy - Educated Redneck - Bringing you up-to-date DEM News

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

When left to his own vices we saw the church Hussein NObama chose.

The church of HATE!

NObama's church preached, Hate Whitey, Hate the Jew, and God D* America.

What kind of church repeatedly uses the LORD'S name in VAIN?

20 YEARS NObama attended this church of HATE and only left after he felt the heat!

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

"Poor Racist Barry Nobama

Sarah Baracuda has obliterated the fool'

You REALLY need to get out of the bubble you live in. You're in for a real reality check in November.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Palin is an idiot. If you can say with a srtaight that she is qualified, then you are an idiot. Do you see any prominant Repugs supporting her? No. They don't want to look stupid to the intelligent people of the country,blue or red. If the Repugs win it will be through voter fraud. Protect the polls.

Posted by: doug | September 13, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Here's one of the so-called Palin lies debunked. If anyone takes as gospel what Ann Kornblut says,without an independent check, more deluded those.

Sen. Tom Coburn, the chief foe of the "Bridge to Nowhere," said Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin deserves credit for killing the project, which became the symbol of Washington pork-barrel spending.

"The bridge didn't get built because Sarah Palin had the guts to say it wasn't going to get built," said Mr. Coburn, Oklahoma Republican, who was the fiercest critic of the bridge and tried but failed to have Congress strike it."

Posted by: llew jones | September 13, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Chevy must really want that check from the mccain/palin campaign for cutting and pasting its bs...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Actually, in Gov. Palin's interview with Charles Gibson, she was quite clear that her visit was to Kuwait. No claim of going to Iraq. The campaign operatives just made a mistake -- the official word of the candidate is there for all to hear. But of course, since Ms. Kornblut chose to misrepresent what Gov. Palin said yesterday to the Alaskan troops going to Iraq, why would we expect her to get this right?

Posted by: Alan | September 13, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Is there anything that Palin has said... that was true?

Posted by: wolf | September 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

They influence our decisions without us knowing it. They numb our senses without us feeling it. They control our lives without us realizing it.
THEY LIVE.

The GOP and their presidential race are like a bad "B" movie. The first one that comes to mind is John Carpenters "They Live". If any of you have seen this little gem, the whole premise is that an alien corporation pretty much like the GOP already has complete control over our beloved USA and, if they grace you to join them, you gain stature and wealth as long as you do exactly as you are told and do not rock the boat. No one is aware of this elaborate scheme because they own all the media outlets. Utilizing these they send a mind blocking and basically dumbing down signal to all of us via our television sets. We are unable to see them moving among us. In our TV induced sleep state they seem just like us, but they are always more prosperous and look at us as dumb but use full creatures that will believe everything they feed us via the television. You can feel their disdain for us emanating out from their condescending attitudes.

(Production notes from the official website:

The age old advertising trick of subliminal seduction transcends to hypnotic mind control in John Carpenter’s science-fiction thriller, They Live. Here, Carpenter gives us a cold, hard reality, then strips it away to reveal a grimmer reality within ourselves and our society. Where face value takes on a completely new meaning; where reality is not what one creates, but what one takes.
The approaching close to another decade, progress on one end of society’s spectrum continues to escalate as the other end tailspins into a depression which rivals that of the 30’s. With approximately one-half of one percent of our country’s population holding 50 percent of our country’s wealth, it is all too evident that the gap between different socioeconomic classes continues to widen.)

Roddy Piper plays a drifter who has just come in to town to look for work. Having no place to stay, he goes to a shanty town. He works around the place in exchange for lodging and there are some of those nasty do I dare to say it, Community Organizers working out of a church across the street that feed the homeless and down trodden daily.

The shanty town has a TV that is on 24/7. One day the drifter is watching a program with a few other people and a fuzzy hacker signal breaks in over the normal programming. Instantly the whole group gets headaches and can barley stand to look at the screen. The person on the screen is saying something to the effect of " Wake up and see the truth, you are being programmed." The station switches to the technical difficulty screen and is soon back to mind numbing programming as usual. Headache gone, all is well.

The drifter goes on to find out that the Community Organizers are the ones that have discovered the evil plan and are trying to get us to see what is really going on. Of course being the smart alien corporation they are, they trace the signal and since they own government, they send in the police, storm trooper style and destroy the shantytown and raid the church killing everyone they possibly can.

What they did not know is that this small Resistance had developed optical devices in the form of sunglasses that allow them to see the world as it really is. After narrowly escaping all this, the drifter finds a box of these glasses, puts a pair on and sees the horrid truth. As he looks down a busy street he sees that the billboards are not the color full ads regurgitating the same old buy this, you need this, drink this, eat this, fly here, and most of all get in debt, get in life ruining debt, it is OK you can afford it, hell it's on sale!

No, the signs only say things like stay asleep, conform, no thought, obey, reproduce, spend and submit. He then goes to a magazine stand picks one up and they all look like the billboards. He then sees one of them and is horrified at the sight of this thing. This is just a nasty hate filled ugly creature. He then looks at the stand attendant who is one of us and looks down at the wad of currency in his hand and it reads,
This is your god!

He then goes on to kill as many as he can and is able to temporally knock the signal offline before he is shot and killed. The movie ends with the rest of us getting a glimpse of what is really going on. I like to think that all the people who were asleep up until now go on revolt and take back our country. But do they? Or does it go back to the status quo with the aliens in control.

With all of this said it is not to much of a stretch to equate this movie script with the current GOP election tactics, biased reporting and not so current tactics of the last 8 years. The GOP are running scared and they have everything to lose. Think of all the money they will lose if there is ever peace again! Think of all the money they will lose if this deregulated banking and stock exchange nightmare ends! What does winning the war really mean? How many banks have failed? How many people cannot afford health care? How many people are unemployed? How many people are bankrupt?

Ironically, at one point in the movie the drifter looks at one of the aliens and says "That's like putting lipstick on a pig" (actually he says "that's like putting perfume on a pig" but you see my point")


If we ever needed real truth based campaigning and reporting we need it now. People please put on your glasses so we can see the sad reality of it all and take action.

Posted by: CraigH. | September 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I just noticed that in Sarah Palin's ABC interview she said three times in a row that "we've got to keep an eye on Russia." And, she was about to say it another time but Charlie interupted her.

She's a parrot with glasses. "We've got to keep an eye on Russia" McCain, what have you done?!
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PALIN: First off, we're going to continue good relations with Saakashvili... And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep...

GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That's why we have to keep an eye on Russia.

Posted by: J Carville | September 13, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

The reason Sarah Palin keeps talking about Russia is that for years Russia has been considered as part of the "last days" of the world by fundamentalists. Undoubtedly, she has been fed a steady stream of "Bible teaching" on how Russia will one day array itself against the forces of God and will be vanquished in one final conflagration.

Sarah Palin, like so many other fundamentalists, is a crazy who believes that if we take Russia on, with God on our side, we cannot lose. As a former fundamentalist minister, I can tell you what these people think, and I promise you that you do not want anyone of their ilk anywhere near the Oval Office.

Posted by: Fred | September 13, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Lets get to the facts straight. Untill the nomination of Palin as VP candidate, McCain was rot politican of old Wasshington herd. A frailed, devoid of policy, financially illiterate, liars and a flip flop is supposed to get into life just one naive, another liars, representing very small remote America, hardly faced anything, hardly represent any credible Americans is required to boost McCain's image there is something fundamentally wrong with republican policy and credibility. Does not matter how fresh Palin is her role as commander in chief will be insignificant, it is still policy bankrupt McCain who will rule America continuing Bush's doomed strategy.Can American afford to drag america another four years. This team is a completely useless so the following reason:

1. Who is the boss of the team, of course McCain so, what Palin can do to improve Republican image or performance

2.When McCain could not sell himself should people belieive in Republican policy after he injected a naive young and second liar who claims so many thing what she has not even heard of for get her participation and produced any results out of the claim.

3.McCain being useless to attract female voters, now bringing this new kid, he wants to get those who voted for Clinton. What a joke who will trade gold for mud if they have any brain. Now Palin is trying to show her wisdom blaming Obama not Picking Cliton. She trying to get sympathy vote. You should stand on your capacity but not buying sympathy vote. Hope both republican supporters and democrats understand this sort of mean politics.
4.Do really American believe McCain and Palin are capable of bringing change. If that was the case where was McCain for last 26 years when he was occupying or dealing with so many issues that was about to hurt America. To me he does not have that brain to distinguish what is good for America and what is bad. To be he is even less intelligent than Bush. Where Republican Polical Mafia can idiots like him get rich or make rich those blood suckers who has controll over American Corporate world including the Media. That is why McCain and Palin stupidity gets so much media attention and they do not prostest against their lies and let them sail. Why media is so worried about Obama and more importantly Biden who would be 100 times better VP than a irresponsible lady. Look at the personal issues she gets involves when it comes to abuse of power as Governor of such small population. What she will do if she become President of America anybody has thought about this. Do not let fool yourself by republican mafia and media who have entirely different agenda through the election than to save america. McCain and Palin are more selfish than nationalist. If they can lie so many things just to win the election what they will do once they are in power to satiate their personal ego. To me McCain Palin are ego maniac than qualified candidates.

Posted by: yadisharma | September 13, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Xavi is Annamous is Vinney, is Bello, acquinsaino and many other .

He has to have many names to post under as he get knocked off for abuse.

He has personally threaten seeral of us in the past. Including me..

I have offered to will meet him anywhere, many times, so he can show me how brave he is and threaten me to face to face.


ISA
ISA

Posted by: Issa | September 13, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

After experiencing the content of the Republican convention, knowing that he was not allowed to select any of his top choices for VP, and listening to the passel of lies and mock indignation that has become the body of the campaign recently, who among us believes that Mr. McCain has any control over "his" campaign, or that he will be able to exercise any control over "change" in Washington should idiocy prevail again and he get elected?

Posted by: Phil | September 13, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Educated Redneck
nondairy creamer
open secret
resident alien
silent alarm
wireless cable

You left our my favorites:

Military Intelligence
Business Ethics
Government responsibility

Posted by: Chris in Texas | September 13, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

We are watching the McCain campaign death spiral. RIP

Posted by: suekzoo | September 13, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Aren't we about sick on this nonsense. Americans want a revolution of political thought and political campaigns. .............
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/14/americans-want-a-revolution-2008/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 13, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

How are the dems "desperate" when it's the republicans who are lying tooth and nail?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain hasn't held an open press conference in a month, they are only allowing hand-picked interviews with Palin. According to McCain's youTube page they have released 28 attacks ads in that span.

Does the GOP really expect to hide for 7 weeks, not talk about the issues and actually win this thing? I hope they don't think the American public is that stupid.

Posted by: RyanD. | September 13, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

The Obama camp shouldn't just call something a lie. They need to relate it to something that people can familiarize themselves with. Strange as it seems, just calling someone a liar has no real impoact. People will read it and think "ya ya ok". But what they really need, to let the concept sink in, is a good analogy, which will personalize the concept for them and really understand how much a lie can be distorting and destrucive (and, in this case manipulative).

Posted by: Hans | September 13, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

The politics of Rove strike again.

Their campaign is such an onerous lying sack of crap at this point, I'm amazed the swing vote hasn't choked from the stench. Just goes to show you how much rotten meat the lying politics of pandering can cover up.

Posted by: scabby | September 13, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Okay, so that just means the "law enforcement officials" you asked were not the "law enforcement officials" who gave the estimates.

Who are you snobs trying to fool? Guess what? We don't care where Sarah Palin hasn't been. She's one of us and she's going to represent us in the White House.

Good day, sir!

Posted by: PUMA 4 Palin | September 13, 2008 3:20 PM
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This is satire, right?

Posted by: SMC | September 13, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous (Chevy) | September 13, 2008 8:41 PM
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Wow, that was even weirder than your usual non sequiters.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Watch this and see all the lies that are being told by the McCain camp. SHAME ON THEM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Pass the link on - Spread the word.

Posted by: SM | September 13, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Jay said "They are grasping at anything to ruin this woman's credibility and only making themselves look foolish in the process."


A.K.A.

"Lies are meaningless".

Spoken like a true Republican.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

You can have GOD himself say that Palin is lying, but the Republicans will continue to believe the McCain camp. Someone should tell them that PRIDE is still a deadly sin.

Posted by: Gia1 | September 13, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Jay sez: "They are grasping at anything to ruin this woman's credibility"

Actually Jay, we don't have to do anything to ruin Frau Palin's credibility. She's doing that all by herself. She never went to Iraq as she claimed, and her "trip to Ireland" was a refueling stop. I'm betting she never even got off the plane. The more we learn about her the more ridiculous she becomes. Bozo the clown is more qualified than she is as VP. The fact that McCain his hiding behind her skirts to avoid answering the hard questions shows just what kind of "leader" he is. In two decades in the Senate John McCain has done nothing. He is anything BUT a leader in the Senate. His own peers think he's a jackass (excuse me, "maverick"). The qualified women Republicans (Hutchinson et al) ran as far and as fast as they could rather than run with him. So he had to go WAY down the list to find Sarah "duck and cover" Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Xavi you are the IDIOT

Posted by: Issa Gallego | September 13, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

IT is already so deep I just do not understand why any Republican is supporting the Neocon Controlled GOP..

I have read about the Fall of Rome.

The very same people that brought it down are the same modern day Neocons.

Their behavior is identical.

I am a frustrated Republican but going to vote for Obama and Biden. AND with fight for what I believe through them.

At least they will listen and can get a good compromise. What we have in the Congress, Senate and Executive are crooks.
Well not all but damn too many.

Republicans for Obama and Biden
Just no other choice..

Posted by: Issa Gallego | September 13, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Funny. Republicans callong Obama a liar, but at least he WENT TO IRAQ! Plain lied about going there. The Straight Lies and Half Truths KEEP COMING. What's next?! Palin cheating on her husband?!

Posted by: Gerald Shields | September 13, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jay | September 13, 2008 8:34 PM

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Uh, yeah, that's it. Yeah, scared. Ooooh -- mayor mccheese and the moose hunter gots me all afraided.

Yeah.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to pee on your parade, Barry, but she's crashed your party and she's here to stay.

Posted by: Brian | September 13, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

The Dems don't need to grasp at anything. The McCain-Rove ticket, oops, McCain-Palin ticket is taking care of it all by themselves

Posted by: JH | September 13, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I've followed politics for a long time and I am mystified. Whatever Sarah Palin's capabilities and potential (good or bad) how does the pick of someone almost completely unknown to the American electorate end up changing the face of a national election so drastically and so quickly. This country may be beyond help or hope.

Posted by: America gone crazy | September 13, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

John D tries irony: "Oh, wait a minute, that was Hillary. Never mind."

Yup, and you know what happened to her.

Posted by: Tokyo2night | September 13, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

The Dems are scared sh....less. They are grasping at anything to ruin this woman's credibility and only making themselves look foolish in the process.

Posted by: Jay

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They don't have to, Palin and the McCain campaign do it all by themselves.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Well finally the media is fact checking. But how long did this take to come out? Why would a trip, which has to be a public record, take so long to be found by the media?

I'm glad to see the media doing a bit of its job, but America is at stake and the neocons know how to take advantage of a weak free press. Our only hope is for the media to fact check everything coming out of both parties and when one is found to have lied, call it a lie! Ask for an explanation and don't let them ask for some "deference". The leaders of China and Russia will not give a VP Palin any deference.

Posted by: Fate | September 13, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

sarah palin and john mccain are small-time crooks. We are a better country than that- we used to understand the logic of democracy. we used to stand for the rights of the poor and oppressed. We used to understand the separation of church and state,the desire to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in the world, and war in any guise is wrong. That saving mother nature is right, nd that teenagers want to have sex, which should be treated like a fine wine rather than some weird obstacle course. The single candle is still burning, the books have not been burned yet.

Posted by: heidi | September 13, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Drip! Drip! Drip! The McSame camp keeps dripping out the lies. I watched McSame on the VIEW and I was horrified. He wants to set women back and he is using a woman to help him do it. This is pathetic! No Way, No HOW, No McCain, No Palin!

Posted by: Concerned Woman | September 13, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

And it's alsoo been proven that Palin never faced any danger from gunfire on the runway, and--

Oh, wait a minute, that was Hillary.

Never mind.

Posted by: John D | September 13, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with McCain/Palin. This is a Rove script from top to bottom...all they do is recite what he and his minions put in front of them....if he says to them "Palin visited Iraq at the same time she visited Kuwait," the two them repeat it to us as if it were the truth and of course the truly dumb ones among us believe it. They are simply puppets of the oil/military/financial industrial complex that has been destroying this country for over three decades, with Rove hovering over the puppet theater writing the scripts and pulling all the strings. Some "Mavericks."

Posted by: Joe | September 13, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

From Faux News:

If you know Florida voters, BE SURE that they have their "papers in order" on Election Day.

No Match, No Vote. It’s now more than just an electoral catch phrase in Florida.

With Election Day fast-approaching, the Sunshine State is finally enforcing this local law aimed at preventing voter fraud, after several roadblocks.

The intent of the “No Match, No Vote” law is simple: to ensure voters are who they say they are.

The verification effort entails double-checking every voter registration form with the Florida Motor Vehicles database, or the Social Security database. If the numbers don’t match, the voters can still vote — with a provisional ballot — but that voter then has two days after Election Day to provide their driver’s license or Social Security card to their local elections supervisor.

Posted by: All Florida Voters | September 13, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

By the way folks, keep in mind that this Governor didn't even have a passport until 2007 -- that is no lie. So please ... stop trying to pass this woman off as Madeline Albright...

Posted by: Did I mention I'm a beauty queen? | September 13, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I just noticed that in Sarah Palin's ABC interview she said three times in a row that "we've got to keep an eye on Russia." And, she was about to say it another time but Charlie interupted her.

She's a parrot with glasses. "We've got to keep an eye on Russia" McCain, what have you done?!
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PALIN: First off, we're going to continue good relations with Saakashvili... And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep...

GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That's why we have to keep an eye on Russia.

Posted by: J Carville | September 13, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

The Dems are scared sh....less. They are grasping at anything to ruin this woman's credibility and only making themselves look foolish in the process.

Posted by: Jay | September 13, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

"Palin's Travel Eyed"?!!!!!!!!

No doubt. The liberal media will soon no doubt have a tounge-wagging report deploring that supermom Sarah Palin once changed her toothpaste.
Obama and our biased media sent THIRTY lawyers up to Alaska just to investigate her HUSBAND!
Surely there MUST be SOME real liberals out there who are as appalled as conservatives at this witch hunt.
These Obama/Media sexist and nasty attacks on Sarah Palin and her family are just plain disgusting!

Sarah Palin is being investigated just in case she abused travel privileges?!

Meanwhile, Sen. Obama has a fundraising supporter who was a terrorist member of the Weatherman group who, like Bin Laden, blew up buildings in th U.S. and wishes, like Bin Laden, that he could have blown up a few more.
Why bother investigating a terrorist connection when you can examine whether Sara Palin used up more than her share of travel privileges!!!!!!!!!!!!
You might lose your membership in the elite Washington loop of useless and supposed journalists club-a club to which Edward R. Murrow would not belong.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CPJ | September 13, 2008 8:25 PM

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"Following her selection last month as John McCain's running mate, aides said Palin had traveled to Ireland, Germany, Kuwait, and Iraq to meet with members of the Alaska National Guard. During that trip she was said to have visited a "military outpost" inside Iraq. The campaign has since repeated that Palin's foreign travel included an excursion into the Iraq battle zone." -- from the Boston Globe.

----Your 'other sources' are the McCain/Palin campaign. You gop hacks just don't seem to get that the intertubes make fact checking your bs a trivial matter, do you?

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Stop the Presses!!! John McCain's campaign lies??? Wow ... glad to see the MSM is coming out of their collective coma induced by years of "good ol' boy" bbq's and talks on the back of the bus. When McCain slandered Sen. Obama saying he'd rather lose a war than lose an election the MSM all scribbled away and, maybe, said tut tut. Now they're finally waking up. And maybe McCain's camp has gotten so used to getting anything past Americans he's strung out enough rope to hang himself with. Check out the NY Times stories today on the Palin governing style ... makes Dick Cheney look like a, well, pig in lipstick lol.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss

Posted by: straight talk my a** | September 13, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Sharon wrote -
"I am a white college educated medical professional woman and registered Republican."

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Sorry to say but you aren't the demographic they are targeting. Let's see, college educated huh? Strike one. A Professional, strike two. A Republican and not a New-Conjob? Strike three.

Seriously, I know many Republicans who are absolutely disgusted with the way McCain is letting his campaign people run this election. Election First! Country Last!

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

In the interview, Gov. Palin did not mention that she visted Iraq. She said Kuwait and our injured troops in Germany. Anything else, came from other sources.
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Those other sources were the McCain camp trying to 'pad' her resume. Even that ploy is flimsy because it is trying to insinuate that she has foreign policy experience even though merely visiting those places isn't foreign policy experience. It's nice to show support for the troops, but....she wasn't talking to the military commanders about the deployment, she wasn't talking to foreign leaders about foreign policy.

This was padding by the McCain team that would get a job candidate rejected out of hand by any decent employer.

Posted by: DeFreese | September 13, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CPJ | September 13, 2008 8:25 PM

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"Following her selection last month as John McCain's running mate, aides said Palin had traveled to Ireland, Germany, Kuwait, and Iraq to meet with members of the Alaska National Guard. During that trip she was said to have visited a "military outpost" inside Iraq. The campaign has since repeated that Palin's foreign travel included an excursion into the Iraq battle zone." -- from the Boston Globe.

----Your 'other sources' are the McCain/Palin campaign. You gop hacks just don't seem to get that the intertubes make fact checking your bs a trivial matter, do you?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

"Palin's Travel Eyed"?!!!!!!!!

No doubt. The liberal media will soon no doubt have a tounge-wagging report deploring that supermom Sarah Palin once changed her toothpaste.
Obama and our biased media sent THIRTY lawyers up to Alaska just to investigate her HUSBAND!
Surely there MUST be SOME real liberals out there who are as appalled as conservatives at this witch hunt.
These Obama/Media sexist and nasty attacks on Sarah Palin and her family are just plain disgusting!

Sarah Palin is being investigated just in case she abused travel privileges?!

Meanwhile, Sen. Obama has a fundraising supporter who was a terrorist member of the Weatherman group who, like Bin Laden, blew up buildings in th U.S. and wishes, like Bin Laden, that he could have blown up a few more.
Why bother investigating a terrorist connection when you can examine whether Sara Palin used up more than her share of travel privileges!!!!!!!!!!!!
You might lose your membership in the elite Washington loop of useless and supposed journalists club-a club to which Edward R. Murrow would not belong.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

To anonymous at 8:19 - actually, our Governor, from the small state of Maine,no less - has been to Cuba and overseas on trade missions. He may also have traveled to other countries on personal business. I guess he would be more qualified than Palin - Maine shares a huge border with Canda. McCain/Palin = Lyin'/Liars

Posted by: Mary Hussein | September 13, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm a moderate Republican woman who was for John McCain before the Palin pick. Now I see the extremists in my party out in full force. I had hoped this election, whether we won or not, would move the GOP closer to sanity. Not sure I can hold my nose and vote for a Democrat - but I won't be voting for McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Psychological terms to describe McCain supporters who believe truth to be lies and lies to be truth:

They engage in GROUPTHINK -

Tendency for highly cohesive groups to assume their decisions can't be wrong, that all members support their decision, and that information to the contrary shall be ignored. (i.e. cult behaviour)- In Start Trek terms THEY ARE THE BORG.


INVENTIVE WITNESS -

These witnesses typically embellish and create details when being interviewed. This is likely due to an inability to differentiate between fantasy and reality. They may also have esteem motives, in that they wish to appear important.

Posted by: RealityCheck | September 13, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kathleen | September 13, 2008 8:12 PM

"Quit saying McCain will die from melanoma. Jeez, folks, his dad dropped dead fropm a heart attack at age 70, and his paternal grandfather died of the same thing at age 61. He's due to drop dead of a heart attack at any moment -- and no one is taling about that, eh????"

Well yes, good point, and I must say, his body has taken more abuse than his daddy and grand daddy. So, better boost the odds. Oh yeah, and they did not have to bear the burdens of the Presidency.

Posted by: Grim Reaper | September 13, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

janice complains: "I never once heard reference to an Iraq trip in any of her speeches. She said I saw soldiers in Germany and in Kuwait. She never said she was in Iraq"

It may not have been in her speeches, but the campaign is using it as an official talking point:
According to Boston Globe, which broke the story,

"Sarah Palin's visit to Iraq in 2007 consisted of a brief stop at a border crossing between Iraq and Kuwait, the vice presidential candidate's campaign said yesterday, in the second official revision of her only trip outside North America.
Following her selection last month as John McCain's running mate, aides said Palin had traveled to Ireland, Germany, Kuwait, and Iraq to meet with members of the Alaska National Guard. During that trip she was said to have visited a "military outpost" inside Iraq. The campaign has since repeated that Palin's foreign travel included an excursion into the Iraq battle zone."

CNN report:
"A Palin aide in Alaska had said Iraq was also one of the military stops on that trip. The Boston Globe, however, reported Saturday that in response to questions about the trip, Alaska National Guard officials and campaign aides said Palin did not go past the Kuwait-Iraq border -- and did not meet with troops there."

And regarding the claimed "visit" to Ireland, it was just a refueling stop. The point is that it sounds so much sexier to say "I visited Ireland" than to say the plane stopped there to take on fuel, and it has an effect on people's perceptions; "ah, she's well traveled"; if she wants to continue to claim that she visited Iraq and Ireland, okay, but everyone can now see through it; it's a meaningless claim, and and just shows her up for the political tyro she is. She's deliberately padding her resume. It's like including a thousand footnotes in your book to make it look authoritative, when many of the footnotes are completely irrelevant to your claims. It's simply cheesy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Folks, I want continued Good Stuff for the late night comics.

Vote Palin/McCain.

Posted by: T-Prop | September 13, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Palin is so absurd! Wake up folks. She is sighting going to Mexico on vacation as foreign policy. She is citing PTA experience as a qualification. I wouldn't have a problem if she didn't have a ton of experience if it appeared as if she had a brain or had thought through the big issues facing our country, but instead she is merely regurgitating what her advisers have told her.

I know we can do better. That's like saying that if you screw up in school and don't really do anything in your life, then you should Vice President. I believe in a meritocracy, where people who are smart, hardworking, and thoughtful should be elected to make big decisions.

Posted by: GoHuskies08 | September 13, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Educated Redneck is an oxymoron. Or maybe just a moron.

Posted by: Wordsmith | September 13, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

In the interview, Gov. Palin did not mention that she visted Iraq. She said Kuwait and our injured troops in Germany. Anything else, came from other sources. When are the reporters going to start having fair and informed reporting instead of they garbage they are feeding the American people.

Posted by: CPJ | September 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

At least the McCain-Palin campaign has set an all-time record:

Most Dishonest Campaign in History.

They have beat the previous records in all categories:

Most lies ever told.
Biggest lies ever told.
Greatest number of repetitions for each lie.

Congratulations!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Republicans don't get that this race is about who is fit to lead this country. They are like rabid football fans: they start out wanting their team to play great and win, they end up not caring how much cheating it takes to get that victory at the end. Would be kind of funny -- since GOP government has hurt them as much as it has the rest of us -- except that . . . it's hurt the rest of us.

Posted by: Ironic | September 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I am so confused. I thought honesty was a Christian value.

Posted by: monk | September 13, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Hillary Clinton was not the only one who had an adventure that was not true. At least Senator Clinton actually went to Bosnia (minus the sniper fire), but this Governor Palin is truly a piece of work. What else on her vaunted resume is suspect? We'll soon find out, boys and girls; stay tuned . . .

Posted by: Black and Bitter Like Coffee | September 13, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a leader, but I play one on TV.

Posted by: Tomhere | September 13, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Here's the lie the Comp-ost is not stating.

Just the other day NObama stated in his tax plan Everybody gets a tax cut.

what a liar!

Where's the story?

Rasmussen now has Palin McCain ahead by two points in the electorial and 5 up nationally.

America has fallen in love with Sarah Palin.

Racist NObama is DEAD-MEAT

Chevy - Educated Redneck

Posted by: Chevy | September 13, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I am a white college educated medical professional woman and registered Republican. I am ashamed and insulted at all the John McCain and Sarah Palin proven lies. News media, fact check, analysts all have proven LIES. I am insulted thee two actually think I will believe the lies!! What they are saying is I am too stupid to know any difference!! You took me in 2004. I saw what happened then too, but I forgave - no more. Crooked and lying politics is horrible. America is a disaster!

They continue to LIE. When confronted they say they are telling the truth. They both continue to LIE!!!

I am ashamed and embarrassed to say I am a Republican!! I have had enough.

News Media please addressing this issue!! Americans check the facts!! You and I deserve the truth.

My vote if for Obama -Biden. At least I have checked and they are the most honest!

From a Fed Up Republican!!

Posted by: Sharon | September 13, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Brothers and Sisters, Palin was a bad pick by McCain.

Sure, she is confident and has strong personal opinions and a compelling life story, but here's the rub.

McCain picked her knowing full well that she knows absolutely nothing about foreign policy, especially the defining issue of the past several years - Iraq and the Middle East. Nobody should argue against this; it would be a futile defense of the woman's glaring fault/ignorance on this matter. In fact, most of the GOP posters here could articulate *something* about Sunnis and Shia (Palin can't).

McCain picked her knowing full well she knew nothing about national politics and essentially told her to shut up and let the menfolk in his entourage to handle all the hard work. Her job (per McCain) was to show up, act like a tough woman, and sling the potshots at Obama and the Dems and then run for cover asking for 'deference' when the media began to ask hard questions.

He essentially told her to bake cookies and take tutoring lessons while the strategists did their thing.

They tried to be too clever by half.

Posted by: DeFreese | September 13, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Listen up Obama supporters, the Republican party plans to steal the elections by voter fraud. Click the link below from a person who worked in his camp until he quit after he knew what they were going to do. Pass it to everyone you know.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/What-YOU-can-do-to-prevent-by-Mark-Crispin-Mille-080912-383.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are human garbage! They lie about anything to retain power and will say anything to fool people into voting for them. If the republicans win the white house this year, it will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that america is on a serious decline and will lose its top position in the world. McCain is just like Bush, he wants so bad to be the leader of the free world but has absolutely no ability to do so. All he had was his honor and integrity, and now that is gone because he's so fixated on being President. McCain puts himself first, country second.

Posted by: John | September 13, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

The answer to the question" is there anything they are not lying about " is obvious. Recall how the Bush/cheney team lied all the way through 2000? Funny thing, their admin continued lying to the american people over and over again for the past 8 yrs. They have been full of lies, secrecy, cronyism.....and guess what? Why would anyone in their right mind think that the lies will stop once in office??? They lie about unimportant things. People would forgive that she is not well traveled, but lying about it.??? Wait, I forget, the radical right does not care if they lie. Name one "Christian" who has confronted them on obvious lies. This is pathetic.

Posted by: sherrybb | September 13, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Well Gee -- I didn't hear Abraham Lincoln make the Gettysburg Address, so I guess it never happened.

Posted by: Mis-logic | September 13, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

"Do you normally expect our 50 governors to junket to Iraq and Afghanistan and become national security experts in case they too are nominated?" Posted by: Jim Holtaway

No, but I don't expect them to lie about it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Gepetto McCain has made the wooden decoy Pinocchio S. Palin just to fool people from the real issues that matter to our despicable situation to where Bush and his disciples have brought us.
But the Press and the people ARE NOT falling for what's fake because it's DANGEROUS to allow the whole nation to be deceived with lies and distortions into EIGHT MORE YEARS OF THE SAME SHAME.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 13, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin can see Russia from Alaska...Can you see the moon from your backyard?

Wanna submit that application to NASA?

Posted by: J Carville | September 13, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

This is a narrow, ignorant woman, I'm sorry to say.
Posted by: Tom | September 13, 2008 8:09 PM

Well now Tom, since when is ignorance a disqualifier for the presidency? - I mean - have you been tracking the news for the last 8 years?

Posted by: T-Prop | September 13, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

"He reminds me of" --> She reminds me of

cut and paste goof

Posted by: Tokyo2night | September 13, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Linda - couldn't agree with you more. And how often did we see this same comment made about Bush.

Posted by: Bush on the couch | September 13, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

what a load of crap. I never once heard reference to an Iraq trip in any of her speeches. She said I saw soldiers in Germany and in Kuwait. She never said she was in Iraq. How pathetic the Obama pandering most of the media is spewing forth.

I repeat, she never said she had been to Iraq and those of you who believe she did are just desperately kissing up to the media so they will continue to push Obama into office through what is apparently affirmative action since most media outlets want to softball him, and hardball her.

Liars in the media and liars in the democrat party. I used to think this stuff was just politics but it isn't it is well planned desperate smearing for a favorite candidate.

Posted by: janice | September 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

bc54321 asks: "I don't get it. Why are the Republicans lying so much about her record? I know that they're trying to build her up as a political heavyweight, but it only makes things worse when they brag about obvious untruths."

He reminds me of a none-too-bright highschooler trying to land a summer job by thinking that no one will notice the padded resume (I was near the border in Kuwait, but it sounds sooo much better to say I was in Iraq say it "changed my life"). She's such a neophyte to national politics she doesn't realize that everything she says and does lasts forever in Google and Lexis-Nexis, and that these things are going to out and haunt her--like how she and Todd sat around the kitchen table deciding on which projects to cut out of the budget. Talk about Mayberry Machiavellis (LOL), is this how they do things in Alaska--make deciding the governmental budget a "family matter"? Wonder what role Todd will have if she's VP.

Posted by: Tokyo2night | September 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

If it snows in your city during the winter months.

You've been to Alaska. Save your travel dollars.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Sorry jjchicago,
I meant j.
Which then changes my id into not j.

Posted by: not jjchicago | September 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Mr. McCain will spend the remaining days of the election trying to correct the record, while Ms. Palin spends the remaining days clouding the record.

Meanwhile, the economy will continue to tank, our troops will be wasted in Pakistan, and Mr. Bush will fill the air with drones in search of bin Laden.

Return us to the days of rationality.

Reject Fear & Anger.
Choose Hope & Dreams.

Live Free!

Ricky Galileo

Posted by: Ricky Galileo | September 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

"I guess when you transcribe Obama press releases, you don't get the whole story. BTW, I served at the old Iraq-Kuwait border crossing, Navistar. And yes when you are on the border, you can move into Iraq, and yes, it is still dangerous."

That is still not visiting Iraq, though.

And cut the garbage with this whole Obama press release. The press is doing its job. She lied about having gone there; now she is "clarifying." She clearly does not know how to say that she lied and just apologize. Another way HRC is different from Palin.

Next thing Palin will say is that she never did agree to go along with that legislative investigation.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Here's a perfect video showing the McCain ads exposed by later news reports as the blatent lies they are. Since the media can't seem to do their job, we'll have to do it for them. Pass it on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Or we will have another set of lying GOP phonies in the White House come 2009.

Posted by: Roll up your sleeves | September 13, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Classic liberal/progressive mistake. You folks are saying that Palin lies as if it was a bad thing.

In fact America admires liars, and it admires a Machiavellian politician and it admires a "Will to Power."

Americans either believe Palin... or else they don't, and thus admire her all the more.

Your obsession with truth is quaint, out of touch, and explains why Obama may very well lose this election.

I'm a progressive, but I expect my politicians to lie, dissemble and fight ... to let nothing get in the way of power... because only power enables progressive policies to be enacted. Of course it is difficult to remember the ends, once you use those means... but you will never realize your ends unless you are willing to use vicious and aggressive means (as the Republicans understand and most Democrats do not.)

Obama's sincerity (and the perception that he is sincere, even if he is not) will be his downfall.

Posted by: mike777r | September 13, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute, I just realized I can see the moon, mars, venus, jupiter, saturn and other planets not to mention hundreds of thousands or even millions of stars.

That means, that means....

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

McLiar campaign...

Posted by: smallcage | September 13, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin lies so easily because she is a sociopath. No doubt about it.

Posted by: Linda | September 13, 2008 8:02 PM

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Linda, I don't like name calling at all, but from what I have read and seen of the VP, I think you are on to something.

Either she, contrary to what she says, is a typical lying politician, who, like attorneys, have an uncanny way of distorting reality. Or, if she is not the typical politicians but, rather, cannot tell the difference between reality and fantasy there are signs here of Schizophrenia.

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | September 13, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I finally figured out that when Charlie asked Sarah Palin about what "insight" she had about Russia, she thought he was asking about her visual acuity. The dopey bimbo thinks the two are the same.

Posted by: Len | September 13, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Whatever Palin's shortcomings, John McCain is responsible for putting her where she is now, and he must be held accountable. John McCain is morally unfit to be president.

Posted by: Berliner2 | September 13, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, anyone who is on McCain and Palin's side and supporting the trash that is coming out, can't be trusted.

And take Grace - telling Palin to keep lying so she can watch Obama run around chasing his tail.

You know what, this country is in serious straights. It has serious issues and major changes in direction and in the way its government works (make that does not work) are necessary. And Grace and the Republicans, Palin, McCain etc. want to play games.

This decision is getting easier by the minute. How could anyone vote in McLiar and Palin. Clearly, they do represent more of the same. Or is it more of the insane. Whatever. You know what I mean.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | September 13, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Oh sad, this is what you right wingers always do these days. When anyone points out that your candidate has LIED--not changed positions, not changed his or her mind, just plain old LIED--you claim bias. Then you hide your head in the sand until you can be assured that you will only hear what you want to hear.

Remember how John McCain has referred to the press? Oh yes, as his base.

So, please, cut it with the bias crap when it comes to ol' McCain.

Posted by: sad for sure | September 13, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Quit saying McCain will die from melanoma. Jeez, folks, his dad dropped dead fropm a heart attack at age 70, and his paternal grandfather died of the same thing at age 61. He's due to drop dead of a heart attack at any moment -- and no one is taling about that, eh????

Posted by: kathleen | September 13, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

The Globe just "updated" their report...I wonder if AP and the Post will..gee

Two major changes:

The title is now:
Palin camp clarifies extent of Iraq trip
(not the Post's Palin Did Not Visit Iraq)

And the "minor addition" of the candidate's three days ago.

"In her interview with ABC News Thursday night, Palin did not mention Iraq in describing the visit, saying only that she went to Kuwait and Germany to meet with US forces.
According to an itinerary obtained from the Alaska National Guard, the Republican governor visited troops and airmen at a series of bases in Kuwait, including Camp Buehring, Camp Virginia, and Ali Al Salem Air Base.
Her visit to Iraq itself was during a short stop at Khabari Alawazem Crossing on the second day of her two-day trip to the region."

I guess when you transcribe Obama press releases, you don't get the whole story. BTW , I served at the old Iraq-Kuwait border crossing, Navistar. And yes when you are on the border, you can move into Iraq, and yes, it is still dangerous.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Leave Sarah alone! She looked across the border of Iraq. That's as good as being there. Even qualifies her to weigh in on free market policies in war torn districts of Shia villages. And, that's almost as good as walking through the thriving market place of Baghdad (with 5 black hawk helicopters overhead, 300 soldiers standing guard, a fleet of hummers and 50 calibers machine guns pointed at every window in sight) and claiming its as peaceful as any marketplace in Indiana. Man, I'm never going to Indiana.

Posted by: stan | September 13, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

You can put all of the lipstick and make you want on the career politician and it will still oonk. With all of the serious problems undermining our Republic and citizens.... these are the best choices that the Republican and Democratic party can offer. I want more choices and I want to hear from some other citizens. Be that as it may, I served under John McCain, Attack Squadron VA174, Wild Razors and will not vote for him. He is an honorable man and deserves our respect but he and his soccer mom VP pick, like Obama and Biden, should not be elected President of our Republic. I have listened to their speeches and have read whatever I can about what they propose to do to solve our nations problems....the party line and agenda that both sets of candidates espouse don't come close to even identifying the root cause of our problems or the day-to-day concerns and needs of our citizens. I don't want to vote for any self-serving career politician and I don't want any career politician to hold any elected office.

Posted by: 123Njord | September 13, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

sad wrote -
"Why do you have to parrot Obama talking points, W. Post?
Can you not bring down the Republicans with just straight reporting?
You should admit your bias, and stop the hypocrisy.
I will not spend another dime on this rag."

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Funny, I always thought the Washington Post was a conservative leaning paper. Man I MUST be a LIBERAL!

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

There is that old saying: what goes around, comes around. Looks to me that McCain's dishonesty has come around to bite him. Decency prevents me from saying where.

Palin simply isn't worth commenting about.

So, folks, if you want to President who lies whether he know it or not, who wants to return to the 19th century, vote for McCain/Palin.

If you want a bright future and better life for yourselves, your children, their children and their children's children, so on ad infinitum, vote for Obama/Biden.

I am.

Posted by: Peter | September 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Come on, ya'll, be nice, quit being sexist.

Posted by: T-Prop | September 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The first college Sarah Palin went to, Hawaii Pacific University, is a college with such low standards for admission, that they have admitted people that test in the mildly mentally retarded range on intelligence tests (I'm not making this up... I did the testing in one case). Her college education is so lacking in standards and continuity, it takes a very broadminded person to consider her to have had a college education at all. Compare this to somebody who went to Columbia and Harvard and has traveled the world extensively (traveling to Iraq and when is irrelevant). She sneers at the idea of having gotten a good education or being exposed to the world through travel. This is a narrow, ignorant woman, I'm sorry to say. I'm not surprised she would shoot wolves from a helicopter, after running them to exhaustion. And McCain admires this kind of person? That says a lot about McCain.

Posted by: Tom | September 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The important thing is that you can SEE Iraq from Kuwait.

Posted by: TRBoston | September 13, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Why do you have to parrot Obama talking points, W. Post?
Can you not bring down the Republicans with just straight reporting?
You should admit your bias, and stop the hypocrisy.
I will not spend another dime on this rag.

Posted by: sad | September 13, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

That New York Times story is pretty interesting. Valuing personal relationships and loyalty over education and experience? Yup. That sure sounds like George W. Bush. And look at the fine shape our country is in right now.

Attention, Democrats. McCain and Palin are going to lose this election. They've hit their post-convention peak, and they have no place to go but down. Meanwhile, Obama has spent months and months building an unparalleled ground force. Read the Bob Beckel column on realclearpolitics.com. The Democrats have registered over 2 million new voters this year. The Republicans have lost 344,000. In Ohio alone, there are 860,000 registered black voters. Less than 50% voted in 2004, and Kerry lost by 120,000 votes. Do the math. Obama wins any way you slice it. He had too much momentum coming out of the summer, too much enthusiasm, and come November 4th, the Obama GOTV effort will be like nothing we've ever seen before.

Winning 2008 isn't a problem. The problem is 2012. Palin isn't going to go away. She'll be back in 2012 and 2016, unless something really awful surfaces in her record. Worse than personal vendettas and pork barrel spending, I mean. They'll lose now, but you better be getting yourself ready for Palin at the top of the ticket in 2012.

Posted by: drgrepper | September 13, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Another day, another Caribou Barbie Lie Exposed. Truly LAUGHABLE -

Posted by: disgustedinDC | September 13, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin strongly supports aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska. Here's what that looks like:

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/8/31/22337/7183

(This is not a video for the weak of heart.)

Posted by: Hello | September 13, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

American airline carriers must be aghast about this news. According to Sarah Palin, their revenues will surely take a steep dive.

With the Sara Palin form of travel, you can travel the world by typing in the name in a Google Search and pull up the images. Wah-lah. "You've suddenly BEEN there".

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

I can see a bird's nest when I look out my window so that qualifies me to be hired as an ornithologist at the big U down the road. If they won't hire me it's because of lib'rul elitist bias...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin lies so easily because she is a sociopath. No doubt about it.

Posted by: Linda | September 13, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

This isn't even about Sarah Palin. Okay, she accepted the offer to run for the vice presidency. But she's already demonstrated what a nutcase she is, so we can give her a pass on "not blinking" when asked.

This goes to John McCain, the supposed grownup on the ticket, the one who would actually be in charge (until he dies in mid 2009 from melanoma). He had the biggest decision of his entire public life to make the week of August 29, when he announced his pick for his running mate. What did he show us, America, independent voters, when he passed over legions of intelligent, experienced, and SANE people for this "hockey mom"?

HUH? Ask yourself that simple question.

And don't say "he picked somebody just like me!" Because even YOU don't want YOU to be vice president (and, quite likely, PRESIDENT before the term is out). Just, please, ask yourself that question.

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 13, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

"But why would any non-wingnut desire to have a "hockey mom" in the White House? That I don't understand."

Well, she's not a hockey mom. Hockey moms don't hire lobbyists. They don't leave small towns with millions of dollars of long terms debt. They don't run 527s. They don't get more pork barrel spending per capita than other governors. They don't bar legislative investigations, attempting to claim "executive privilege."

The NY Times article quotes a friend saying Palin knew she wanted to be president in her earliest years in public office. This whole "just a hockey mom" thing is an image and a scam. She's a cunning politician out to get what she wants.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or are the gop hacks getting dumber by the minute...?

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Why did that idiot Mac have to take on all this trash baggage anyway? Put it totally on the old oligarch. Cuckoo head!!

Posted by: mdsubramonia | September 13, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a crook and a the image of a partisan politician. Thats why Republicans like her. She will continue the Bush policy of hiring incompetents and putting them in charge of people who can do the job.

Posted by: Paul Nolan | September 13, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Which of her stopovers on this trip qualified for per diem?

Posted by: KarlfromMD | September 13, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

"I can see Russia from Alaska"
"I VISITED Iraq, but thanks no thanks, from Kuwait"
"I got more votes when running for mayor than Biden for senate". Six hundred votes my first time, and nine hundred the second one, so you do the math".
"I put it on e-Bay"
"I stopped the bridge to nowhere"
etc.
etc.
etc.
Folks, all this is DANGEROUSLY laughable. She is a compulsive liar in urgent need of treatment by a psychiatrist. She can hurt people, as she did to the chief trooper as soon as she got to be governor. She needs to be STOPPED now.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

If you've seen one foreign country then you've seen'em all. They all look the same. It is so easy to make a mistake.

Sarah Pitbull-Palin does not tell lies. She makes mistakes. Everyday. Some of them are deliberate.

When McCain and Palin say that they do not care about themselves because they put America first, is that one of their Everyday mistakes?

For all of those GOPs who want to protect Palin from exposure let me assure you that I am a liberal. Yes, a liberal. I think guns should be banned and I do not believe in the death penalty. What are you gonna do about that?

Posted by: Robert James | September 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dacajun | September 13, 2008 7:51 PM
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That's right. Lies don't matter -- as long as their republican lies...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

When she was a mayor, she acted as a mayor.
Since she became governor, she has acted as a governor. When she becomes vice president, she will act as a vice president. And when she becomes president , I will be very happy.

Posted by: ray henry | September 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Here is more about Palin:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1221343233-YjgBVrHUF+nCtnoRKKg3kA


Posted by: ks | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM
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Thanks for sharing. Three words describe Sarah Palin: abuse of power.

Posted by: Steve | September 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

To JackESpratt -

I would rather see Obama lose an election honorably than sink to the depths of McCain/Palin/Schmidt/Bounds, et al. We voters will get what we deserve if we let race determine our vote, and make no mistake about it, that IS what this is about. Just as with Hillary, there are many people who will vote for a white woman over a black man just because he is black. Now with McCain/Palin, they will vote white just because, even though it is not in their own best self interest to do so.

So there, I said it, it is about race and this is what the republican Neo-Conjobs are counting on. Well guess what, if it makes those people feel any better, Obama is white and black, so vote your conscience for the former if it makes you feel better although I feel it is absurd. What difference does it make what color someone is? Stupidity, foolishness, arrogance and cynicism knows no color. Vote for a real change and hope and pray if you are so inclined like I am. It's time we help each other up rather than being lemmings and letting the Roves of the world scare us into putting each other down.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

"Why don't you spend your time finding out where Obama was born?"

Still on that ridiculous birth certificate story, even after the document's been handed over and verified. I suppose you will only be satisfied if Hawaii sends you your very own copy.

And of course you do realize that McCain has not released his birth certificate, and he wasn't born in one of the states? Hmmmmm.....but you don't see WaPo reporting that. Maybe I'll whine about media bias and how everyone is mean to me....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Lie in the campaign, lie in office. Haven't we had enough of that the last eight years?

Here's what the Tampa Bay Tribune had to say about the McCain campaign:


Campaign of lies disgraces McCain


Published Friday, September 12, 2008 7:11 PM


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This nation is facing real challenges on the economy, health care, jobs and the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are significant differences between how Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain would address them. But McCain's recent campaign ads suggest the most vital issues are whether Obama wanted to teach sex education to kindergarten children and whether he derided the Republican's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, by talking about lipstick on a pig.

McCain's straight talk has become a toxic mix of lies and double-speak. It is leaving a permanent stain on his reputation for integrity, and it is a short-term strategy that eventually will backfire with the very types of independent-thinking voters that were so attracted to him.

The sex education ad says that Obama supported "comprehensive sex education" for kindergarten children. Graphics then appear with a voice-over saying: "Learning about sex before learning to read?"

The facts: Obama, while a state lawmaker in Illinois, supported a measure to provide older students with age and developmentally appropriate sex education. Younger children, such as those kindergarten-age, would be taught "age-appropriate" things such as how to protect themselves from sexual predators. The legislation was widely backed by the state PTA and the Illinois Public Health Association. Parents could choose to opt out of any instruction for their children.

But in McCain's campaign playbook, this responsible legislation becomes fodder for a grotesque distortion as a way to instill fear in voters.

As to the lipstick-on-a-pig controversy, McCain's campaign has purposely twisted the way Obama used that expression in a recent speech in Virginia. A McCain campaign ad claims that Obama was directing an insult to Palin who, during the Republican National Convention, characterized hockey moms like herself as pit bulls with lipstick.

The truth: Obama used the phrase, which he had used before, to attack McCain's claim that he'll reform Washington while retaining the policies of President Bush. After using the lipstick-on-a-pig phrase, Obama said, "You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

McCain's faux chivalrous outrage over Obama's purported insult is beneath him. He has been a serious public servant willing to say unpopular truths when he thought it best for the country, but he's more than willing in this election to put his name on campaign lies. The leader who says he would rather lose an election than lose a war now risks losing his reputation in an attempt to win the White House.

Posted by: gschwartz | September 13, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Apparently nothing we've been told about Palin is true! After 8 years of governmental secrecy and behind closed doors mischief-- enough! Get back on the STRAIGHT talk express and tell the truth!

Posted by: DR_JES | September 13, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I always wanted to visit Greece. This afternoon I went to a Greek restaurant and my dream was fulfilled.

Posted by: Shui | September 13, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I am a woman, and Palin shames me!

All these lies propped by camp McCain and Rove are catchip up with them! Sarah Palin is disgusting! I cannot believe how shameful her lies are. The fact that the GOP parades her as a model mom, is disgusting too! The fact that Palin paraded her underage, teenage, pregnant, unwed mother to the national public, with the GOP touting her as a model for teenage girls, is embarassing! gosh!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I can understand why Republicans would want the most stupid leaders possible. They have a grudge against intelligence that goes back to their school days.

But why would any non-wingnut desire to have a "hockey mom" in the White House? That I don't understand.

We seek and appreciate intelligence and expertise -- "elitists" if you will -- in all walks of life. Not only would we not want an amateur performing open-heart surgery on a loved one, we wouldn't even that kind of person playing quarterback for our favorite NFL team.

Moderate Republicans & independents, ask yourself -- is inexperience less important in the White House than in the class room?

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 13, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"Where did my party of Lincoln go?"

Ask Karl Rove.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"stock in Palin goes UP along with McCain's numbers"

Really? Because it looks to me like McCain's post-convention bounce is dissolving. Nationally, Gallup had him up 5% over Obama just a few days ago. Then it was 4%. Then it was 3%. Now it's 2%. Hotline had McCain up by 1%. Newsweek had them tied. How exactly are his numbers going UP?

Memo to Republicans: you have to do more than excite the evangelicals. Winning by 30% in Okalahoma won't get you the White House. You have to win in places like Pennsylvania and Colorado, where Obama's lead is still solid, despite the "Palin effect."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

That we are even considering voting Republican for this presidential election is beyond reason...we are an insane nation if McSameBushPale wins this election.Why in the world should we keep these goons in the white house after these past 8 years of shame,greed,avarice and near total destruction of our economy....just to the advantage of very few? America, WAKE UP. McCain ain't it !!!. Barack is black, some twenty 20% of the population are not going to vote for him just because of that reason alone....I'm not exaggerating...check out those people who live in West virginia, Tenessee, etc...the so called "bible belt"...which is an ironic abomination to what the bible is all about. So McSame already has this advantage going for him...and then for the rest of us who at least believe that a man's color has little to do with our situation as a nation right now, to allow all these shennanigans to obscure our vision in deciding who to vote for is just something I cannot understand. If at the end of the day, we get 4 more years of Bush/Chenney,no one should complain. All of you should watch Lehman Brothers collapse...another feather to 8 years of GWB and republican/conservative policies.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse


What a nit picking story. The plane refueled but she was not with it? She went to the Iraq border but she was not at Iraq?
Why don't you spend your time finding out where Obama was born? Is it to hard for You?

Posted by: dacajun | September 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: not jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:46 PM

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Uh, ya think I'm a republican????

Try actually reading my posts, bub.

Sweet jesus.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

"But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions."

This is laughable. She claims to have said "Thanks but no thanks" to Congress. Um, every time I hear this story, I don't hear a "no thanks." More like just "thanks."

1. Ask for money
2. Get money
3. Spend money
4. Thanks!

Then claim to hate pork barrel spending...after you've gotten more per capita than any other governor and after hiring a lobbyist for a town of about 6,000 people.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

A New York Times article worth reading IN FULL. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&em)

Draw your own conclusions.

In Office, Palin Hired Friends and Hit Critics


By JO BECKER, PETER S. GOODMAN AND MICHAEL POWELL
Published: September 13, 2008


While Ms. Palin took office promising a more open government, her administration has battled to keep information secret. Her inner circle discussed the benefit of using private e-mail addresses. An assistant told her it appeared that such e-mail messages sent to a private address on a “personal device” like a Blackberry “would be confidential and not subject to subpoena.”

The governor’s office did not respond to questions on the topic.

Ms. Palin and aides use their private e-mail addresses for state business. On Feb. 7, Frank Bailey, a high-level aide, wrote to Ms. Palin’s state e-mail address to discuss appointments. Another aide fired back: “Frank, this is not the governor’s personal account.”

Mr. Bailey responded: “Whoops~!”

Mr. Bailey, a former mid-level manager at Alaska Airlines who worked on Ms. Palin’s campaign, has been placed on paid leave; he has emerged as a central figure in the trooper investigation.

Another confidante of Ms. Palin’s is Ms. Frye, 27. She worked as a receptionist for State Senator Lyda Green before she joined Ms. Palin’s campaign for governor. Now Ms. Frye earns $68,664 as a special assistant to the governor. Her frequent interactions with Ms. Palin’s children have prompted some lawmakers to refer to her as “the babysitter,” a title that Ms. Frye disavows.

Like Mr. Bailey, she is an effusive cheerleader for her boss.

“YOU ARE SO AWESOME!” Ms. Frye typed in an e-mail message to Ms. Palin in March.

Many lawmakers contend that Ms. Palin is overly reliant on a small inner circle that leaves her isolated. Democrats and Republicans alike describe her as often missing in action. Since taking office in 2007, Ms. Palin has spent 312 nights at her Wasilla home, some 600 miles to the north of the governor’s mansion in Juneau, records show.

During the last legislative session, some lawmakers became so frustrated with her absences that they took to wearing “Where’s Sarah?” pins.

Many politicians say they typically learn of her initiatives — and vetoes — from news releases.

Mayors across the state, from the larger cities to tiny municipalities along the southeastern fiords, are even more frustrated. Often, their letters go unanswered and their pleas ignored, records and interviews show.

Last summer, Mayor Mark Begich of Anchorage, a Democrat, pressed Ms. Palin to meet with him because the state had failed to deliver money needed to operate city traffic lights. At one point, records show, state officials told him to just turn off a dozen of them. Ms. Palin agreed to meet with Mr. Begich when he threatened to go public with his anger, according to city officials.


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At an Alaska Municipal League gathering in Juneau in January, mayors across the political spectrum swapped stories of the governor’s remoteness. How many of you, someone asked, have tried to meet with her? Every hand went up, recalled Mayor Fred Shields of Haines Borough. And how many met with her? Just a few hands rose. Ms. Palin soon walked in, delivered a few remarks and left for an anti-abortion rally.

The administration’s e-mail correspondence reveals a siege-like atmosphere. Top aides keep score, demean enemies and gloat over successes. Even some who helped engineer her rise have felt her wrath.

Dan Fagan, a prominent conservative radio host and longtime friend of Ms. Palin, urged his listeners to vote for her in 2006. But when he took her to task for raising taxes on oil companies, he said, he found himself branded a “hater.”

It is part of a pattern, Mr. Fagan said, in which Ms. Palin characterizes critics as “bad people who are anti-Alaska.”

As Ms. Palin’s star ascends, the McCain campaign, as often happens in national races, is controlling the words of those who know her well. Her mother-in-law, Faye Palin, has been asked not to speak to reporters, and aides sit in on interviews with old friends.

At a recent lunch gathering, an official with the Wasilla Chamber of Commerce asked its members to refer all calls from reporters to the governor’s office. Diane Woodruff, a city councilwoman, shook her head.

“I was thinking, I don’t remember giving up my First Amendment rights,” Ms. Woodruff said. “Just because you’re not going gaga over Sarah doesn’t mean you can’t speak your mind.”

Posted by: Ward6ForNow | September 13, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Awww, more Repub grownups.

Posted by: SoonerThought.blogspot.com | September 13, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Y’all

By now, everyone knows that I did not really go into Iraq. I know I said I was in an Iraq “battle zone.” Of course, what I really meant was that I was at an Iraq/Kuwait border crossing. I can’t help it if you all can’t hear and follow along. So, sue me!

Plus, I don’t get why everyone wants me to be so darn “accurate” and “truthful” anyway.

You guys have to admit, “battle zone” sounds a lot more cooler and tons more impressive than “border.” Border, well, that just sounds like something you might name your kid!

Anyways, do I have to explain EVERYTHING? Reporters, by the way, all of you pretty much really do suck.

Now, where’s my wee one?.. and where’s your cameraman?

-SP

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 13, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

There are few things that a politician running for Presidency should do: LIE. If you tell one - people will eventually find out.

So, lets recount Ms Palin's experience:
- She has watched Russia from a distance, she has been on vacation in Canada and Mexico and she has visited troops in Iraq, well lets not forget about the fuel stop in Ireland, that counts as foreign experience too!

- She fires people, she has secrecy agreements with her close associates and her government was made up of her graduating class from Wasilla! Now this sounds as something Putin would do. (then again Ms Palin wouldnt know - "Putin what! I ain't heard nobody like that!")

The woman just cant stop lying, and she is dragging a good man through the mud (I though McCain was a good man, turns out he just wants to win an election before he dies!). Now why he is letting us put up with this woman is beyond me.

The world is looking at us - and cant stop laughing at us!

GOD SAVE US IF WE END UP WITH A BUFFOON FOR A VP.

Posted by: SB | September 13, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

She looked across the water and saw Russia and so that counts as a visit. She looked at Australia and Antarctica on a map once so she also visited them.

She's so intercontinental.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Ok...so Ms. Palin is Governor of a 670,000+/- populus state. On a clear day she says you can see Russia from an uninhabitated western Alaska island. And she just cut a deal with a Canadian oil pipeline company for oil.

On a clear day over Asia, I can see 3 or 4 countries at a time. Flying west from Anchorage after a couple of hours, I can see Russia and later Korea, China and Japan.

I have spent many nights in hotels around the world. Some were at a Holiday Inn!

I hereby announce my candidacy on the Republican ticket. Seen more than Sarah, been more places and have the T-shirts to prove it!

Posted by: Boeing Pilot | September 13, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin '08 - 10% Maverick 90% Bush

100% Lies

Posted by: Bush III | September 13, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: bling | September 13, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Is it any wonder a Washington Post pseudo news story is loaded up with pro Obama anti McCain comments? Do you have any idea how stupid you sound, in your visceral hate Palin hate McCain mode?


Posted by: TN J | September 13, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

People like jjchicago make me ashamed to be a Republican.Just repeating somebody's talking points that are obvious lies scares me. That has nothing to do with personal freedom and individualism. Do we need someone else now to think for us and tell us what to do? Is this China?
Where did my party of Lincoln go?

Posted by: not jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Stop lying Democrats! You will all go to hell!!!

Palin has been to all countries when she visited Epcot at DisneyWorld. That was an experience of a lifetime and gives her adequate foreign policy experience.

Posted by: Kaiser | September 13, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Forget about experience - this woman is a nut case. Has there ever been a worse candidate chosen to be VP. I bet McCain wishes he hadn't picked her.

Posted by: Hottopics | September 13, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

So, she did go to Kuwait and was at the Iraq border but didn't cross her finely pedicured toe over the line??

Baaahhh-Waahhhhh!!!! The burning smell of hysteria and desperation just reeks off you guys! Everytime you come up with one of these petty complaints, stock in Palin goes UP along with McCain's numbers.

My mother - who hasn't voted for a republican since Nixon and I'm talking about when he ran against JFK - is even voting McCain/Palin because she cannot believe the petty and silly attacks from the Obama camp!

Keep up the good work! The more you whine and make these petty attacks, the less McCain has to do to become President.

Posted by: JackESpratt | September 13, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

At what point do McCain supporters stop defending McCain/Palin against verifiable truths? Seriously, I couldn't support a ticket that I had to continuously argue the absurd. It can only mean that the conduct they defend is also conduct they condone. THAT should make the other half of the country sleep soundly, eh?

Posted by: Keith | September 13, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Notice how most of the gop hacks pop up, post an obvious and easily refuted lie and then disappear only to come back under a different name or anonymously.

With all the money mayor mccheese has promised these sleazebots, his campaign is going to run out of money by the end of the month...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

"they switched from Hillary to Palin"

I'm just like you. I voted for Obama because I remember sitting in my living room in October 2002 and watching HRC stand on the floor of the Senate and argue for that authorization of force. It was a galling political stunt. The evidence for war was flimsy, plenty of Democrats opposed it, and I will never forgive her for not only supporting it, but standing up and saying: "We need to trust the President."

No, we don't. Not when the President is clearly trying to sculpt the facts to justify his decision to go to war. I have no doubt that Palin and McCain, if they win this election, will drag us into another war within two years.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin I'm inclined to vote for you. But my big question is, CAN I TRUST YOU? It seems that not telling that your daughter is pregnant, lying about your trip to Iraq and Ireland, acting as if you know the Bush Doctrine are signs that you are another politician even worse than some in Washington. I know you can change Washington for worse. ENOUGH!!!!!

Posted by: Al Ram | September 13, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

to Oh brother, on your comment "As a middle aged, no party affiliated white guy who lives in a small town, I didn't find them terribly shocking or subversive."
I am a 60 year old,no party affiliated white woman who lives in a small town, and I completely agree with you! Thank God there is another person in this world that heard what I did. Why do people think they have to believe what the media tells them? We have minds and intelligence and the ability to think. Whether you agree or not try thinking for yourself.

Posted by: sister | September 13, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm really amazed that the McCain campaign did'nt also count the countries Ms. Palin's plane flew over. What a world savy leader she is!

Posted by: Whidbeyone | September 13, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

"McCain aides ....expressed indignation at questions about her slim foreign travel."

Well, of course they did. That's what liars always do when they get caught. My flight to Costa Rica landed to pick up passengers in Guatemala City without deboarding, so now, according to "Christian-Republicans" I can say I visited Guatemala.

Palin will fill Cheney's shoes well as a pathological liar.

Posted by: Roy | September 13, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign said she'd been to Iraq. Turns out they were lying.

This is not the first time the McCain campaign has flat out lied about her qualifications.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

the copy and past Republican foot shoulders are working overtime!!

Posted by: chris larry

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You would too if you were getting paid by the post like they are.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

"She never claimed she'd been to Iraq. She listed the places she's travelled in her interview with Charlie Gibson; she never mentions Iraq, only Kuwait. The Post and the Globe failed to mention this."

That's a lie. The Globe article notes that:

"Following her selection last month as John McCain's running mate, aides said Palin had traveled to Ireland, Germany, Kuwait, and Iraq to meet with members of the Alaska National Guard. During that trip she was said to have visited a "military outpost" inside Iraq. The campaign has since repeated that Palin's foreign travel included an excursion into the Iraq battle zone."

So the aides just made it all up without even asking Palin?

Doubtful. Palin lied originally, then backpedaled because she knew she'd be called on it. Deal with it.

We Americans need someone better than Palin sitting one heartbeat away from the presidency.

Posted by: castanea | September 13, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Teddy Roosevelt was the last Bull Moose Republican ...

McCain-Palin just gives us more bull!

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 13, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Someone on a blog said it best: She is George Bush with a dress. Read the NY Times piece about her hiring unqualified cronies for top Alaskan jobs. I like best the real estate agent friend from high school who became head of the State Division of Agriculture (at $95,000 a year) because she had a childhood love of cows. She ousted the good old boy network in Alaska to install her good old girl network. Both Republican and Democratic legislators found her so missing from the session and Juneau, the capital, that they took to wearing "Where's Sarah?" buttons. Yes, she is just like Bush who sent cronies to Iraq to rebuild. We can already imagine what Palin will do in Washington. She can lie like Bush, and be as secretive as Bush (losing her emails and using personal email accounts for state business). She believes God is directing her policy, like on the pipeline. Yep, George Bush in a dress.

Posted by: goldie | September 13, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Is there anything about Sarah Palin that is true?

I can recall with sadness how the GOP jumped on Hillary for having said that she "landed under fire in Bosnia"

Wahat makes me especially ad is the way the media treated Hillary, it was with such aggressiveness, how come the media is "brushing aside Palin's lies?"

PALIN should be called out on her several lies! she should be made accountable! How could we possibly have this kind of madness in the White House again?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is cynically running the sleaziest and least honorable campaign in modern Presidential campaign history. His discredited ads with disgusting lies are running all over the country today. He runs a campaign not worthy of the office he is seeking.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

OMG isn't there anyone left in America who actually believes that their leaders should not be liars and cheaters? How can you vote for or overlook these huge problems just for your party ideology? Doesn't the constitution mean anything? Are you all so corrupt too that it has stop mattering. Palin and McCain lie. Doesn't that mean something?

Posted by: annonimos | September 13, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

the copy and past Republican foot shoulders are working overtime!!

Posted by: chris larry | September 13, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I think she was talking about the Iraqi Deli in Juno. Awesome subs!!

Posted by: CharlestonPaul | September 13, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I want to vote for person whom I can go shopping with. She needs to be as dumb or dumber than me. Having a president smarter than me would give me a complex. Thank God we have had Bush for the last 8 years.

Posted by: LISA | September 13, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

J:

You are incorrect. McCain's campaign claimed that she visited the troops in Irag. And that was a lie. Perhaps this is a look at what the McCain-Palin administration would look like - more lies.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: israelhands | September 13, 2008 7:33 PM

Uh, yer wrong. She claimed to be 'in the battle zone.' But maybe she was talking about that old arcade game...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Kornblutt:

You are so in the tank for Obama. You, Obama, his campaign and the rest of the Obama MSM surrogates are misleading the public and are panicking so to print untruths and expect people to believe it.

I don't remember Palin saying she went to Iraq. She said previously she went to Kuwait to see the troops. I guess you received your email with Obama's talking points for today. Well let's set the record straight. From the Wall Street Journal:

Let's compare.

Mrs. Palin used her veto pen to slash more local projects than any other governor in the state's history. She cut nearly 10% of Alaska's budget this year, saving state residents $268 million. This included vetoing a $30,000 van for Campfire USA and $200,000 for a tennis court irrigation system. She succinctly justified these cuts by saying they were "not a state responsibility."

Meanwhile in Washington, Mr. Obama voted for numerous wasteful earmarks last year, including: $12 million for bicycle paths, $450,000 for the International Peace Museum, $500,000 for a baseball stadium and $392,000 for a visitor's center in Louisiana.

Mrs. Palin cut Alaska's federal earmark requests in half last year, one of the strongest moves against earmarks by any governor. It took real leadership to buck Alaska's decades-long earmark addiction.

Mr. Obama delivered over $100 million in earmarks to Illinois last year and has requested nearly a billion dollars in pet projects since 2005. His running mate, Joe Biden, is still indulging in earmarks, securing over $90 million worth this year.

Mrs. Palin also killed the infamous Bridge to Nowhere in her own state. Yes, she once supported the project: But after witnessing the problems created by earmarks for her state and for the nation's budget, she did what others like me have done: She changed her position and saved taxpayers millions. Even the Alaska Democratic Party credits her with killing the bridge.

When the Senate had its chance to stop the Bridge to Nowhere and transfer the money to Katrina rebuilding, Messrs. Obama and Biden voted for the $223 million earmark, siding with the old boys' club in the Senate. And to date, they still have not publicly renounced their support for the infamous earmark.

Mrs. Palin has proven courageous by taking on big spenders in her own party. In March of this year, the Anchorage Daily News reported that, "Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens is aggravated about what he sees as Gov. Sarah Palin's antagonism toward the earmarks he uses to steer federal money to the state."

Mr. Obama had a chance to take on his party when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid offered a sham ethics bill, which was widely criticized by watchdog groups such as Citizens Against Government Waste for shielding earmarks from public scrutiny. But instead of standing with taxpayers, Mr. Obama voted for the bill. Today, he claims he helped write the bill that failed to clean up Washington."

Nice try Anne, but we know you are in the tank for Obama and your anger shows in your blog.


Posted by: J | September 13, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I had a layover in Reykjavik so according to Palin's lahjuk I guess that makes me an authoritative expert on Icelandic.

Oooh, being a republican hack is fun...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

She never claimed she'd been to Iraq. She listed the places she's travelled in her interview with Charlie Gibson; she never mentions Iraq, only Kuwait. The Post and the Globe failed to mention this.

Posted by: israelhands | September 13, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

When these Republicans can't talk extensively on the issues like the Dem campaign this time, they revert to making this big election about character assassination or guilt by association (yet they themselves do not apply the same standard).

Instead of guilt by association (we'd run around in circles pointing fingers which gets nowhere), let us talk about the candidates' judgment on the issues :) The Issues :)

McCain's judgment on the issues, vs Obama's judgment on the issues.

It is telling given the amount of education and understanding on them, given their positions. It is also telling given the selections. Lets stay tuned! The media needs to drill on these aspects. Equally :)

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 13, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Guys! Fundamental Islamic Terrorists attacked Indian Capital New Delhi. They bombed 3 markets killing innocent people. Threat of Islamic Terrorists are real.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a.wthgAuDhbM&refer=home

We need to vote McCain/Palin to keep this country safe and secure. Keep the terrorists on defence at their turf.

Posted by: mike | September 13, 2008 2:04 PM

Yesssss! The Obama campaign has got them now! Embellishing crowd reports and travel locations, with hard hitting info like that NOBODY will vote for McCain/Palin now. There's rumour that the Obama campaign has an October surprise that Gov Palin once drove over the 55 mph speed limit back in 1997. That should be the nail in the coffin for her. This race is over!

Posted by: Alan | September 13, 2008 2:01 PM
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I find it interesting how in two consecutive pro-McCain posts, British spelling is used: "defence" in the first, "rumour" in the second. If either of you are American citizens with the right to vote, then I'm Tony Blair.

Posted by: S. | September 13, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

When these Republicans can't talk extensively on the issues like the Dem campaign this time, they revert to making this big election about character assassination or guilt by association (yet they themselves do not apply the same standard).

Instead of guilt by association (we'd run around in circles pointing fingers which gets nowhere), let us talk about the candidates' judgment on the issues :) The Issues :)

McCain's judgment on the issues, vs Obama's judgment on the issues.

It is telling given the amount of education and understanding on them, given their positions. It is also telling given the selections. Lets stay tuned! The media needs to drill on these aspects. Equally :)

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 13, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

These folks are nuts -- that includes the Palin/McCain ticket and the lunatics that support them. Are you serious. This woman makes Dan Quayle look like Winston Churchill.

Posted by: VirginiaforObama | September 13, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

What a slippery candidate and campaign.

Hello, America: You've been dating her for two weeks. She's already lied several times, exaggerated a bunch of times, constantly switches explanations for things. Two weeks. Would you even buy a car from this sociopath?

Posted by: Terry Carroll | September 13, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Wow and I bet most of you call yourselves good christians too!

Posted by: A Real American | September 13, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I am a white man.

I have been a supporter of Obama from the beginning of his campaign, and still am.

I would have supported Hillary, without reservation, but I lost hope in her the day I sat in my car at lunch as Congress was voting to authorize the Iraq War. I spoke to the radio, of all the silly behaviors, pleading with the Democrats not to authorize the pointless war. I knew Iraq was not a threat, and couldn't understand why most of the country all of a sudden found Iraq a threat. Iraq had been neutralized, big time, by Bush Senior and the UN sanctions. Iraq was knocked from a developing nation to a third world nation, and then all of a sudden Bush Jr. tells us we have to fear nuclear attack? I knew it was a lie.

However, the Democratic-led Senate voted for it. I was not only disappointed, but I was heartbroken. Hillary voted to give Dubya power. STUPID.

That's why I supported Barack Obama instead of Hillary.


NOW I'm incredibly disappointed with women in this nation. They were behind Hillary, which I partially understood (she's a woman), but they refused to hold her accountable for helping get 4000 American soldiers killed and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi women and children murdered.

So I had refused to vote for Hillary (sidenote: Obama shouldn't have picked Biden for the same reason).


I'm disappointed with women because they switched from Hillary to Palin. They switched from Choice to anti-choice. They switched from Democrat to Republican. And they switched from NOW (National Organization of Women) to NRA (National Rifle Association).


I guess it really is true that Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

To those Hillary supporters who now favor Palin:

You have no class. You have no backbone. You have no equality.

You are tools.


And you will be responsible when more soldiers and innocent Iraqis are killed.

I hope your kids are drafted. It's what you deserve.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | September 13, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

So Pinochio S. Palin DID NOT visit Iraq as she said, and DID NOT sell the plane on e-Bay.
So, what else is new?
She's already a reject as far as Truth is concerned.
We are laughing stock of the world leaders.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 13, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

99% of the wingers don't even believe the bs they post here and elsewhere -- they're just bilking mayor mccheese out of those dollars he's promising to hacks for cutting and pasting his bs on various sites and blogs.

Sad and pathetic but still funny at the same time.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

The really sad thing is that it's not even about Democrat or republican or conservative or liberal. It really is about the U.S. being at it's lowest point ever because of uninformed, completely ignorant people voting the wrong people into office. What has to happen before people start using their heads and actually caring about the issues that affect us all. If the McCain/Ridiculous ticket is elected, we will be probably going down a worse road than we did with Bush/Satan...I mean, come on, have we not learned anything? We are going to elect people like this to the presidency/vicepresidency of the most powerful country in the world? This woman is awful through and through...we will regret this, although we may not live to regret this. Can any of you even imagine this piece of trash facing off with Dimitry Medvedev/Vladimir Putin? How about her having to deal with the guy that own all of us thanks to our own ignorance, Hu Jintao? Or trying to deal with the Saudi Royal Family...Give me a break!? The main thing to worry about is that John McCain will probably not make it another four years, let alone eight...This moron with a trash family from backwoods Alaska will be making the decisions that matter to all of us and the rest of the world...I mean, I guess if a lot of you are making over $500,000 per year then maybe, if you don't give a crap about humanity in the least, have a reason to vote for these treasonous morons. However, if you don't make that much, why would you ever vote to take money out of your own pocket and give more to the wealthy elite, who will never help you? It just does not make sense to me. Can someone explain this?

Posted by: HESS | September 13, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

It's just one lie after another with Mc Cain and Palin. Any wingnut with an ounce of honesty knows that these two are dishonest, incompetent and corrupt.

I once had a layover in Berlin. I didn't actually leave the terminal, but I had a snack there.

I guess that this makes me an expert on Germany, according to Palin and Mc Cain! Can I be ambassador?

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!

Posted by: LH | September 13, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I went to the supermarket to buy some ham but there was none. They told me that the PIGS have gone on strike, angry for being compared with SARAH PALIN.

Posted by: Sangrore | September 13, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

there are more Dems then there are rethugs...if they wish to be idiots... um dems you need to show up. f^^ all of the dumb.

Posted by: tia | September 13, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Personal Vendettas... Censorship... Cronyism... Secrecy And Lying..."

Wait a minute. Are you saying that all those people who questioned Sarah Palin's qualifications were ... RIGHT? I can't believe that. I'd rather believe that the pointed-headed Northeast liberal media liberal bleeding-heart university East Coast elite are actually fabricating every single one of this tidal wave of revelations in order to discredit Palin. Probably because they're sexist. Because everyone knows that the Republicans have a long and proud history of fighting sexism, and this is just another example of the pointy-headed liberal leftist liberal elite French-loving liberals trying to thwart the Republicans in their great social mission: shattering the second-to-highest glass ceiling.

Grr. Those liberal East Coast liberal university media leftist liberals. I hate them so much. I wish they'd just go back to Harvard and let the rest of us wallow in our preconceived notions.

Posted by: bc54321 | September 13, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

>Give me a break! Obama visited Iraq and >Afghanistan for the first time a month >ago!

The ignorance of alot of people just like 'Jim Holtaway" who made the above comment is dispeakable.

Obame visited Iraq in January 9, 2006 and then in 2008.

Posted by: Notable | September 13, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

"Palin's statement that Barry wants to read murdering foreign scum like that their "rights" is all anyone needs to know about his fitness for office."

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Ok, so you love this country SO MUCH you would happily dispense with one of its founding principles, right? It's called due process, it's called the Bill of Rights. Yup, you sure love this country all right and Palin must too for her ignorant, foolish remark.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

To Grace:

"Obama is a narcissist who thought women would vote for him. WOMEN ARE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA"

Lady, you are an idiot. You should finish your elementary school before you go in to vote.

Posted by: MooseRevenge | September 13, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

'Grace,'

Way to get your crazy on. Keep ranting and raving -- you're showing the gop's true colors to the country and the world...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

On the heaven-forbid event that McCain and Palin do get to the White House, McCain and Cindy will have no peace of mind with greedy-for-power Palin around. HE'S GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A FOOD TASTER AROUND all the time, besides body guards, and mirrors on every wall to watch his back. She is dangerous, vindictive, and deluded about reality.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 13, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I truly enjoy watching east coast feminists trying to slam a real woman like Gov Palin.
It is like watching someone stuck in quick sand sink as they struggle with the inevitable. Where has your alliegence to the dems gotten you?

Posted by: jlluy | September 13, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

you ignorant right wing pigs.......Wake up1

Posted by: vinny | September 13, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse


sarah pads her passport like a 12 year old girl pads her bra.

but instead of tissue.. she uses fake stamps.

i wouldn't be surprised if sarah also wears her garage door opener and tells people it's an emergency pager that only neurosurgeons can carry. (that's her second job, btw)


Posted by: Captain Ron | September 13, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

llew jones wrote -

"If she is not an Obama sycophant perhaps she should zero in on the crazy Reverend Wright's crass mythologies and the total lack of discernment that Obama displayed by continuing his membership there for so long. Is this the sort of impressionable person Americans want to deal with heads of government?"

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Now, did you actually LISTEN to Rev. Wright's speech to the Washington Press Club? Did you actually LISTEN to his sermons beyond the sound bites? If you had, you may have found they weren't so SCARY after all.

As a middle aged, no party affiliated white guy who lives in a small town, I didn't find them terribly shocking or subversive. Actually the Rev. Wright is an excellent speaker and if you listen to what he is actually trying to say rather than the knee-jerk reactions of what people claim he said, you might even agree with him on many of his points. But then that would take effort and an open mind, so forget I mentioned it.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey let's be fair to Gov. Palin. She really wants to be VP. I give her credit. I would imagine she is planning a White House wedding for her daughter and future son in law.

Can you imagine the event and the cost to tax payers.

Posted by: NYC | September 13, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Extraordinary how this woman scares the Democrats.

All I know is that Osama bin Liden and all the other Johnny Jihads want another lawyer like Clinton in office.

Palin's statement that Barry wants to read murdering foreign scum like that their "rights" is all anyone needs to know about his fitness for office.

Posted by: Jim C | September 13, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Proof and facts don't matter to the mcainiancs -- they want to support mccain/palin because they feed their supporters' psychological need for nothing that challenges or upsets their preconceived dogma and biases.

When faced with facts and proofs that refute their predetermined dogma, they will close their eyes, plug their ears and shout 'nah-nah-nah.' When shown that their beloved and not to be questioned demigod candidates are lying sacks of excrement, they will lash out the political opposition and whoever dares to deliver the proof of their candidates mendacity and hypocrisy.

The vast majority of them have long ago constructed an impervious emotional and psychological armament that will brook no doubt or dissent from their rigidly lockstep dogma. Most of them are infants in an adult world and scared nearly to paralysis and unable to construct a single original thought.

They are sad and to be pitied but not accommodated in their petulant tantrums and demands that we lower ourselves to their level.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Iraq is right next to Kuwait so it's just like she knows all about Iraq.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | September 13, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS STUPID.

Obama lied about his Muslim education and ethnic background.

Obama lied about why he visited the Middle East in 2006.

Obama lied about John Edwards and used him against Hillary knowing all along Edwards had a love child. Obama promised Edwards to be his Attorney General.

Obama lied about Rezko buying his house in Chicago. Now Rezko is in jail. Obama worked for Rezko.


Obama lies about his mother. Obama resfused to go to her funeral because he was so angry with her for being a loser.

Obama lies so much nobody knows who he is. That is called pathological liar.

Obama is a narcissist who thought women would vote for him. WOMEN ARE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA.

Posted by: grace | September 13, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Uh. Wow. I just read that NY Times article.

Spoiler alert: McCain supporters better not read it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Her foreign travel is "eyed"? What kind of headline is that?

The truth of the story is that her foreign travel has been "debunked."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

DISPATCHES FROM THE GROUND WAR ...

THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTING ON PALIN’S RECORD AS MAYOR OF WASILLA AND 2 YEARS AS GOVERNOR ...

Personal Vendettas... Censorship... Cronyism... Secrecy And Lying...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1221343324-tGxa66AkDRYq1tsNYpjoIw&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

Posted by: MARTIN EDWIN ANDERSEN | September 13, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it. Why are the Republicans lying so much about her record? I know that they're trying to build her up as a political heavyweight, but it only makes things worse when they brag about obvious untruths.

Posted by: bc54321 | September 13, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Mighty7.

Who knows! I was told she is not a woman. So perhaps she has a dick.

Posted by: Patty | September 13, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

From reading these postings I'm not sure Eli Lilly is producing sufficient quantities of Prozac for the depression that this going to overwhelm the Democrats on the morning of 5 November.

Posted by: NavyGunner | September 13, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps it would be simpler (and certainly shorter) to list the things Palin has said that are true.

Posted by: Ann Arbor | September 13, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break! Obama visited Iraq and Afghanistan for the first time a month ago!
And, now, we are nitpicking border crossings. Do you normally expect our 50 governors to junket to Iraq and Afghanistan and become national security experts in case they too are nominated?

Posted by: Jim Holtaway | September 13, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

"Palin, the Cheney without the Dick"

And McCain is a Dick without the Cheney.

Posted by: Bajrangi | September 13, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Telling statement:

I don't know enough about that Obama... After 19 months of campaigning and 22 debates, and 54 primaries.

But that Palin she is it...On national stage for 2 weeks, one interview.

Just admit that you were never going to vote for Obama from the start, no matter what he says or does.

Posted by: case | September 13, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Ann Kornblut has already misrepresented Palin's remarks about Iraq and 9/11. So lies are not restricted to the Dem and GOP spin doctors. Ann has about as much credibility as the paranoid Froomkin.

If she is not an Obama sycophant perhaps she should zero in on the crazy Reverend Wright's crass mythologies and the total lack of discernment that Obama displayed by continuing his membership there for so long. Is this the sort of impressionable person Americans want to deal with heads of government? In Obama's case, given his past history, he is likely to be impressed by any foolish idea. That is where the investigative journalism should focus rather than on nit picking trivia.

Palin in contrast to the impressionable Obama has all the street smarts and savvy that make for a strong leader.

Posted by: llew jones | September 13, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Don't be too hard on the gop hacks. They really are trying their best. All they want is to get paid by the McCain/Palin syndicate for their hackery...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Let's be fair to Obama and Biden. They have done and said everything their Democratic handlers have told them to say and do. Is it their fault that it has not worked? After all, Obama ( and his wife ) are eloquent speakers and are treated with such reverence on the TV circut. Michele even went on a cooking show to demonstarte how she is just like the "girl next door". Fortuantely, the gaffe where Biden at a veterans day rally, asked a recognized hero and veteran in a wheelchair, to stand up again and again never made the mainstream media shows. You cannot expect Biden's two personal handlers that go everywhere with him where he goes, to stop every gaffe, do you?

Obama and Biden are nice guys trying their best. First their handlers tell them to be high road and then all of a sudden they are expected by the same handlers to be attack dogs, just because McCain chose Palin as a running mate. This is hard. The next thing the handlers will tell them to do is, maybe go after the Republican Presidential candidate, since going after Palin has backfired. I am confused. Is Obama or Biden running against Palin or McCain for President?

Duh!

Posted by: rljmsilver | September 13, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Okay, she lied about her travels. She didn't visit Iraq and her stop in Ireland was for refueling. She was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she wasn't. She increased earmarks when she was mayor. She's being investigated in the Trooper-gate case. In office, she hired friends and hit critics according to NY Times article today. What exactly are her qualifications? Sports journalism? Mayor of Wasilla? Governor of a welfare state?

Posted by: Scott F. | September 13, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Most of the republicans know that the party is spewing lie after lie. They don't care they are just plain RACISTS and will only vote for a white person, even if it was Bozo the Clown, who would probably do a better job than McCain/Palin.

Posted by: landob | September 13, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

EVERYTHING the McCANE crapcaigne brings wants to lean upon and the people to believe is either a lie or an exagerated SMALL truth.
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He was not even a "fighter plane pilot". He was flying a SMALL bomber plane in a survey mission, and he could not even find the eject button because he was careless about academics. His mind was on women, such as night-club strippers. It's all documented.

Posted by: El Mugroso | September 13, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

'A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes." ~ Mark Twain

The republican party doesn't care about the truth, they don't care about the American people - all they want is to stay in power by any means possible. The good people of the USA need to see this for what it is.

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And do you know the context Twain was saying this in? It was and is as germane to the Iraq war as it was in his day during the Spanish-American war. Another useful insight by Twain, and there are countless examples, is:

"Patriotism is usually the refuge of the scoundrel. He is the man who talks the loudest."
- Education and Citizenship speech, 5/14/1908

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

The Obama campaign shouldn't be surprised at this yet another revelation. Anyone who read Mr. Krauthammer's piece today must understand that when it comes to Gov. Palin's foreign policy credentials, it is somewhat like 'the Bush Doctrine' and consequently "...inherently malleable and difficult to define."

Posted by: PC | September 13, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama is now screaming "Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire" once a day. If he panics this badly over a little slippage in the polls, what would he be like in a foreign crisis?

Posted by: White River | September 13, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

YEAH YEAH!!! Keep on lying ya ridiculous liar! That's a real change from the last 8 years!

Posted by: HESS | September 13, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why there's an argument. The republicans have destroyed the country, but now what's important to republican voters is that Obama ostensible called Palin a pig. Molly Ivins felt that the voters of texas, having seen GW in action as governor would never vote for him as president. Oh well! There are still those who cry for Stalin after he killed millions of his own people, willfully or thru stupidity. 80% of the population feels the country is going in the wrong direction, but 50% are willing to vote for those who wouldn't really change anything.
I can't wait for the Bristol in 2016 buttons.

Posted by: jfoster | September 13, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Palin, the Cheney without the Dick.

Posted by: Mighty7 | September 13, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey anne,

Try reading the whole post. You're quoting me quoting another poster.

Now take you meds and calm down.

Posted by: Phxflyer | September 13, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

women rock the vote this year.

It is not red states or blue staes but stare of women.

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Women are voting Palin in the White House.

Palin energized the youth vote. She is really cool!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As the old saying goes, " If ya ain't lyin', ya ain't tryin"!

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Obama called Hillary a liar during the whole primary.

Obama folks pissed Hillary folks so we are all voting for Palin.

Keep lying girl.

We don't care .

Keep making Obama chase his tail and look foolish.

Obama keeps swatting at flies instead of sounding presidential. Nobody cares what he says nymore and probably never did.

Posted by: grace | September 13, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

"McCain is a liar. Palin is not. He is making her lie. She did not say she went to Iraq in her ABC interview."

Sure, Sarah, blame the man for Slick Sarah's lies, you sexist pig.

Posted by: Phxflyer | September 13, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 6:57 PM

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I know. But seem like I'm doing my civic duty for the day. Plus it's sorta fun to smack down their bs, pathetic as it is...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you HESS. The truth is that American voters (as each country knows) do not pay attention to the policies presented by the right candidate (Obama). They just pay attention to personalities. In the case of Palin, American voters just like her because she is always smiling, wears skirts, etc.. That is the sad reality. The same happened with the election of George W. Bush. He was always smiling, etc.. but nothing of substance nothing important. His cam just lied as the McCain camp is doing this time around. That is why I always say: Americans you have to start reading. If you don't, we will have four more years of the Bush administration and then you will be complaining about the bad economy, high cost of health care, expensive education, high gas prices, low wages, etc.. That is why I always say: let's vote for Obama/Biden. We need a new direction in this country and the world. We can change our destiny. Start reading. You will understand better the issues and you will be convinced that the Obama/Biden ticket is the best option in November 2008. We can change our situation. Let's do it in November and do not believe what Palin or McCain tell you. They are liars (one that tells lies).

Posted by: Patty | September 13, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Phxflyer: AMERICANS DON'T CARE ABOUT LIES????

Because of lies, we have 100's of thousands dead in Iraq, not to mention our own 4,000 plus DEAD. What about all the permanently disabled physically and mentally because of lies????

If you believe that, God help you and those like you.

Posted by: Anne | September 13, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey, she could have visited these places in her head, you know and that's just as effective as standing in Alaska and seeing Russia. I hope the Republican cheerleaders who are so excited about her lies, her thin resume and lack of experience one day meet a surgeon in the emergency room who is as qualified to operate as Sarah Palin is to govern. Would you want this woman operating on you, your child? Spare us then having her a heart-beat from the presidency and quit fooling yourself because you sure as hell are not fooling us.

Posted by: medogsbstfrnd | September 13, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Don't be hard on Sarah. Her claim to visit Iraq was an honest mistake from someone who doesn't know the difference between Iraq and Kuwait.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

"Americans do not care about Sarah's lies.

Voters care that 2 good solid American names are going to be on the ballot McCain/Palin."

So what your're saying, Grace, is that Americans don't car about honesty? Why don't you run that whopper us up the flag pole with your minister tomorrow. I'm sure he'll tell that it isn't very Christian to lie.

Of course, everytime we turn the page we find out that Slick Sarah isn't the Christian she claims to be.

Posted by: Phxflyer | September 13, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Two wars, bad economy and many more problems facing us and MY American Citizens rather take a gamble on a liar who just got her passport less than two years ago. Women will rather have a bad economy just because they want to make history. UNBELIEVEABLE!

Posted by: shocked | September 13, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin; sure she's a woman, but she can lie better then any man!

Posted by: Bulwinkle J. Moose | September 13, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

''A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes." ~ Mark Twain

The republican party doesn't care about the truth, they don't care about the American people - all they want is to stay in power by any means possible. The good people of the USA need to see this for what it is.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Actually he has to respond to the crap that the Mccain STOOGE spews. What else can he do? I see no problem with it, A lie is a lie regardless who says it. Palin is just a stooge who says what ever they tell her to say. He is responding to the Mccain campaign of slime. I have to tell you. My wife and I both gave another $500. each just the other night. Mccain and Palin are dangerous. They can never be allowed to be in the white house.

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OBAMA IS CAMPAIGNING AGAINST THE VP CANDIDATE PALIN BECAUSE OBAMA NEVER WAS PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Once again, rhe Republicans are fooling their own. I don't really give a flying crap about who is in the WH for the next four years. If the dumbass public want to be lulled into four more years of free spending, corporate butt-licking Republicans (using your money for corprate welfare) in the WH who don't give a dang about the unemployed, the unininsured, the uneducated and those who did not benefit from the trickle-down economics, then so be it.
I do like Obama and what the New Dems stand for. I have mine. I prefer that others do too. But NCcAIN? You must be kidding to thik that he even cares about you. So go get reamed in your rear for another four.

Posted by: Westerner | September 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

All you wanna be statesmen posting here on the WP must be rookies to the political process.ALL politicians are flat out liars,
and especially during the campaigning process for political office.
If you weren't rookies you would already know that, and they don't stop lying once they reach office.That's why the best liar gets to be president
If they weren't liars,all the issues of concern today,save for Iraq,would have been solved 40 tears ago.
PALIN
Good God fearing practitioners of faith do
not name their children after inanimate objects, while puffing on a pipe full of
Alaskan homegrown.
OBAMA
nor do they sit in a pew and listen to vile diatribe from their
pastor.

SO I WELCOME ALL YOU WANNA-BE'S TO THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT VERSIONS OF POLITICS.

I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO COMEDY CENTRAL,
BUT READING YOUR POST EASES MY PAIN, AND THE WP POST IS WAY FUNNIER THAN "ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A 5TH GRADER"

Posted by: victor | September 13, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Dale proves he is the quintessential gop hack and runs away when confronted with evidence of his own bs.

He claims to have something else to do (clean his dirty underwear off the floor of his mother's basement??) and will lurk or post under another name and then come back hours from now and 'brilliantly refute' my points in my absence.

As I said before: pathetic and sad.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

The New York Times is doing a good job of dragging up Palin's graft and political hit jobs back in Alaska.

Sounds like we have a little Nixon in waiting. Complete with enemies lists, plumbers and wiretaps.

Here's the story:

In Office, Palin Hired Friends and Hit Critics

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

Posted by: MorganLeFay | September 13, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

jjchicago,

I wouldn't waste my time trying to be rational with dale, he (she?) is another of the paid Neo-Conjob posters. Heck! dale might be in Pakistan for all we know.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I support an IQ test too!!!. For God sake, even the DMV requires a written test before you are allowed to drive. Voting is a much bigger responsibility.

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Thanks to the stupid redneck crowd, Bush has been allowed to destroy this great country for 8 years. The same people are trying to get Palin/McCain elected.

I am all for a making an IQ and a general awareness test mandatory for anyone who is allowed into the voting booth. Just being an adult, human, citizen should not make someone automatically eligible to vote.

Posted by: SingSong | September 13, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Her face framed in fur with a snowy background though.... That's gotta count for something.

Posted by: sean | September 13, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow msamina, what an angry, angry person you are.

Does it hurt that badly to discover that Slick Sarah is a pathological liar?

Posted by: Phxflyer | September 13, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Go Biden!!

Biden on Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=955Y3NJTRIE

While we get updates on consistent lies to the extent that View has to check them on their straight talk express, Biden tells it like it is!

"The SILENCE" of these particular Republican candidates "is DEAFENING" on the issues that matter to us. DEAFENING. Very well said Biden. That does more justice with a single word than I would have thought to conjure at all. Deafening. I termed it as neglect, but deafening to the ears is an interesting way to put it. They talked an awful lot, but I went into watching it with a close ear and I simply heard A LOT of nothing. That's not potential presidency of the United States, but a simple minor portion of it; how then can they not represent us too when we make the vast of this country? Deafening.

Like Bill Clinton explained, when this country's productivity increases, and to see The Reward these people get for their hard work. Deafening. It's deafening every day. Deafening.

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 13, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

And the LIES continue!

New campaign slogan:

"Lies we want you to believe in"

Posted by: Hello | September 13, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

IT IS HER OWN STAFF saying that she never went to Iraq and that her stop in Ireland was to refuel and these Republicans are such demented fools they blame the media for it.

They show a video of Palin SUPPORTING the bridge to nowhere, yet they claim the media makes it up. It is like talking to Limbaugh's and Coulter's. What a bunch of whiners and pansies!!

Basically what these retards want is that we (independents) somehow take their word for it and be nice to Palin....because?! Well, isn't that just peachy?. This is a POLITICAL RACE, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. If she can't take the heat, then she can always go back to her frosty state with her fluffy pillow, her teddy bear her psycho church. (Yeah, Alaska is a "refuge" state alright)

Do you want a "Rapture-freak" potentially having her finger in the buttons for those nukes? Hell the f%ck no!!! What, are you kidding me? Send her packing people.


Posted by: Mighty7 | September 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS CAMPAIGNING AGAINST THE VP CANDIDATE PALIN BECAUSE OBAMA NEVER WAS PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Barrack Hussein Obama has Saudi pipelines shoved so far up his @ss he can hardly think.

Obama is a Middle East operative.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

How do you spell loser? O B A M A


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Let's keep the White House Christian.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Obama can visit the Middle East all he wants but it will not be as president.


Posted by: Grace | September 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Thank god for the Internet... Fact checking and information dissemination are so much quicker than in the McCain era...

Apparently, because he knows nothing about computers and the Internet, he did not plan for that eventuality!

With all the lies that have been exposed, and they are pretty major lies and mistakes, if you still vote for the McCain/Palin ticket, you're fooling yourself, and afraid of racial change...

Lying about policy is frowned upon, but not necessarilly a careen ender. Lying about your background, experience, and using power to enforce your own views on others is not a characteristic a president should have, and In my opinion, it IS A CAREER ENDER.

Posted by: Jack5 | September 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I finally found out what a "community organizer" is in Chicago. Talk about taking care of the neighborhood.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/17459370/detail.html

Posted by: kwbycnola | September 13, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

dale,

The list I provided is well supported and widely recognized as true. You can say they are just 'media lies' all you want but that doesn't make it so.

According to you, anything reported in the media that proves McCain is lying can be automatically dismissed on that basis alone. Sorry, but I don't grant that premise.

You do not get to disallow proof that doesn't comport with your and McCain's lies. I understand why you want us to grant you such a liberty, but sorry, we're not going to grant you exclusive authority to dismiss facts that happen to disprove your claims.

Try again.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The mere fact that the Palin and the Republicans have to lie about her record just shows that they don't really think she's qualified either. Why else would you embellish something so fundamental?

Posted by: charice33 | September 13, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to the stupid redneck crowd, Bush has been allowed to destroy this great country for 8 years. The same people are trying to get Palin/McCain elected.

I am all for a making an IQ and a general awareness test mandatory for anyone who is allowed into the voting booth. Just being an adult, human, citizen should not make someone automatically eligible to vote.

Posted by: NickP | September 13, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I cannot even believe that anyone with a brain in their head would support this ridiculous woman! My god, the end is very near...and if the McCain/Ridiculous ticket is put into office, we will deserve every hardship that comes our way. The fact that even one person would support this god awful LIAR makes me not only, "not proud of America" it makes me hate it.

Posted by: HESS | September 13, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

The Obama team desperately needs to bring in Mike McCurry, the former White House press secretary who almost turned it around for John Kerry in 2004, after the Swift boat attacks.

Tighten up the message, call them on unethical behavior, and most of all, put them on defensive.

Posted by: Martin Edwin Andersen | September 13, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Questions: is it true that Sarah Palin is not a woman?

Posted by: Patty | September 13, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't you think the Lovely Sarah would remember if she had gone to Iraq? And I've gotta love her other two foreign trips: To Canada and to Mexico on vacation. Wow.

Not just a lightweight, but a liar too.

Posted by: Magic Dog | September 13, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

If by some chance they won neither Mccain or Palin will be in charge. It will just be a matter of who is behind the scenes pulling the strings. I would say Cheney will be in charge. Mccain is a front man and palin is just a stooge. They will both keep their mouths shut and do as they are told. I would not be surprised the republicans may want to see Mccain out of the way so they can really get Palin under their thumbs.( I write short stories, many times published, I see a story here.) They kill off Mccain and get control through the idiot VP who don't know if she is coming or going. The possibilities of what could happen if someone killed off Mccain is truly frightening.

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Well he isn't, but it can be preceived that way by Neo-Cons because no one in the Republican party really cares about John McCain. They are voting for Palin.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 6:41 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

btw jjchic,

i gotta go, im sure ull be here all night supporting the liberal slant on things, and trying desparately to prove that mccains a liar by saying he is over and over and offering nothing.

but i have things to do, ill return later to prove you wrong :D.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

To any reporter: Please find out why Sarah went to four or five schools to get through college. This is potentially a fascinating story. College is when youth develops autonomy--a pivotable phase. Visit the schools. Discover her personal situation for context. How did she do? Talk to friends, instructors, co-workers. Did she change majors? She married early, so her husband appears to be a strong partner in her life and decisions. Likely, that would continue upon her assuming the presidency. Characterize that influence. Give me 1,500 words by Friday.

Posted by: assignments editor | September 13, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:43 PM

i told u i want proof check the article by "anonymous" at 6:38 i forgot my name.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

The gop strategy is just to tell bald faced lies and then refuse to accept well supported and widely recognized fact, a la their denial of climate change.

It may have worked before but not this time...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

msarmina

People will start talking about the issues when Schmidt, Bounds and the McRovians stop smearing people.

Oh! NOW we know why McCain is running a dirty campaign! Because Obama wouldn't go play with him in town hall meetings. What a joke! What a cynical, absurd joke. He probably tried to beat up the other kids and steal their marbles too. How frakin' childish. Don't believe it? These are his words during "The View". Go read it for yourself.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama accuses McCain/Palin of lying.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Obama is boring, complaining.

Obama is a downer. He is no longer inspirational.


Wake me up when Palin wins.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I want to see big tears on Obama's face when he loses

I bet Michelle will never be proud of her country again when Obama losses.

Posted by: GRACE | September 13, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Dale's response to list of McCain lies: crickets.

Where are you Dale. C'mon, refute if you can...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Did I say Iraq? I meant Ireland. Did I say Ireland? I meant Indiana.

Posted by: DFC | September 13, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

This just in -- Sarah Palin has been lying about her name! It's not Palin -- it's Mooseturd. And she's not a woman. And she's not ACTUALLY running for vice president. If the Repukelickins somehow warp enough opinion polls so they can plausibly steal the presidential election like they did in 2000 and 2004, she will resign to "spend more time with her many troubled children," including the artificially inseminated quadruplets that are on the way so she can grab more of those $2,200 cheques sent to all Alaskan citizens. And she will turn the Vice President's office over to the man who's been running the country for the last eight years, Shotgun Dick.

Not Constitutional to just GIVE the V.P.'s office to someone, you say? And who ultimately decides what's constitutional? Might that be the the Supreme Court with Fat Tony, Uncle Thomas and the Robberlito corporate fascist twins?

OR HOW'S ABOUT THIS -- YOU'RE GOING TO GET CREAMED IN NOVEMBER, YOU FILTHY STINKING REPUGS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SICK OF YOUR CRIMINAL STUPIDITY. GET READY TO FIND A NEW JOB IN A COLLAPSING ECONOMY, YOU PAID SHILLS WHO COME HERE TO SPOUT REICH-WING CRAPOLA!

Posted by: Bukko in Australia | September 13, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

This newest lie of Palin's is pretty easy to confirm, so the story isn't going to be attacked on the merits.

About all the Republicans can do is demonize the messenger. But instead of attacking the messenger for each new revelations of Palin's sleaze, e.g., the lie about the bridge to nowher, the lie about selling the plane on ebay, the collecting of per diem while sitting at home, etc, why not put an end to the pesky facts once and for all?

Why doesn't the Republican Party simply take the position that all info not expressly approved by Sean Hannity is per se false and should be censored?

Posted by: MorganaLeFay | September 13, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

GIMMICK FIRST, NATION LAST

("Stephen" Palin - a one and a half year Governor of a State 10% the size of New York City - would not have been picked by McCain.)

GOP = DO ANYTHING TO WIN, PUT NATION LAST.

Posted by: No more Gimmicks | September 13, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

It's racism, lets not be naive

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Americans who did not know Sarah Palin 2 weeks back, claim that now that they fully know her. But for Obama, even after 19 months of campaigning, interviews, books and speeches, some Americans say they dont know him. What is this, if not racism??

Posted by: Bruce Berra | September 13, 2008 6:40 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

WHY IS OBAMA RUNNING AGAINST THE VP CANDIDATE SARAH PALIN? Strange.

Grace

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Well he isn't, but it can be preceived that way by Neo-Cons because no one in the Republican party really cares about John McCain. They are voting for Palin.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Phxflyer, please. Give me a break.

Every time you turn over that rock, what one finds is that the original trash dug up by the smear merchants you're obviously cheering on just don't have their FACTS right. And as usual, when the FACTS come out, the retractions - if you can find any in the Obama press - are always less covered then the original smear. The supposed fake pregnancy , the alledged book bannings, sinsiter employee firings, calls for holy wars, shamefully charging rape victims for the cost of rape kits, you name it, they all have one thing in common: They are either outright FALSEHOODS, or at best, they are parsed and/or reported so out of context so gullible, ill-informed people like you can have some fun. Now we're learning that Obama surragates in Alasks are manipulating the subpeona lists in the so-called "troopergate" scandal the Dems are whipping up. Nice.

You people are supposed to be the party of tolerance, civility, women's rights, blah blah blah, always accusing the Republicans of smear campaigns and personal attacks unrelated to issues But you reveal your own hypocrisy on any number of levels. I got new for you, your party's smear campaign isn't working and I think decent, fair-minded, INDEPENDENT thinking people all across the country are begining to see that. Your party's plans to destroy Palin isn't working. Have you looked at the direction the polls are heading the past two SOLID weeks???????????????

You people need to really get off the Palin smear wagon and start dealing with the issues you supposedly want to talk about, but can't seem to find the time to, or you will most certainly LOSE this election.....

Posted by: msarmina | September 13, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Y’all

By now, everyone knows that I did not really go into Iraq. I know I said I was in an Iraq “battle zone.” Of course, what I really meant was that I was at an Iraq/Kuwait border crossing. I can’t help it if you all can’t hear and follow along. So, sue me!

Plus, I don’t get why everyone wants me to be so darn “accurate” and “truthful” anyway.

You guys have to admit, “battle zone” sounds a lot more cooler and tons more impressive than “border.” Border, well, that just sounds like something you might name your kid!

Anyways, do I have to explain EVERYTHING? Reporters, by the way, all of you pretty much really do suck.

Now, where’s my wee one?.. and where’s your cameraman?

-SP

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 13, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Shorter wingnuttery: 'how dare you interject facts and concern for truth and accuracy! Don't you realize this is an election?'

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

These quotes all predate Obama. They have been said over the years.

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:29 PM

WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIM BEST SAY ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN.......

"He is a vicious person"
Former representative Charles LeBoutillier R-NY
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"An embarrassment to the party"
Arizona GOP state senator Susan Johnson
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"There is nothing redeeming about John Mccain...he's a hypocrite"
Former house GOP whip Tom DeLay
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"The thought of him being president sends a chill down my spine. He is erratic"
Senator Thad Cochran, R- MS
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"Hard headed is one way to say it. Arrogant is another way to say it. It's a quality about him that disturbs me".
Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
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"What happens if he gets angry in a crisis...? It's the presidents job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don't see that he has that quality".
Former Arizona GOP chairman John Hinz
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"His temper would place this country at risk...and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind that should disqualify him"
Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NM
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"I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger."
Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM

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Oh, c'mon. Listen to the geniuses like dale and dave and pete and realize that these people you quote are nothing but lib'rul biased media obama supporters. So therefore, they can be safely ignored and the mcainiacs won't have to do any, you know, actual critical thinking or any other pinko commie activity like that....

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:37 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse


Anonymous wrote, "Palin is the first politician in history being ridiculed for not traveling enough at the taxpayer's expense."

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well, maybe. but she sure made up for that by claiming over 300 DAYS OF OVERNIGHT TRAVEL PER DIEM WHILE SLEEPING IN HER OWN HOME!

Posted by: BOB | September 13, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Americans who did not know Sarah Palin 2 weeks back, claim that now that they fully know her. But for Obama, even after 19 months of campaigning, interviews, books and speeches, some Americans say they dont know him. What is this, if not racism??

Posted by: Bruce Berra | September 13, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA is the BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.

Women everywhere are voting for Sarah Palin and not Barrack Hussein Obama.

Obama is runnin' scared.
Obama is no longer inspirational.
Obama looks and sounds tired.


WHY IS OBAMA RUNNING AGAINST THE VP CANDIDATE SARAH PALIN? Strange.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Obama went to Iraq in 2006 to get Alsammarae out of jail. He was Saddam Hussein's energy minister in jail for stealing $1 billion from the government. Now Alsammarrae is an Obama fundraiser.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Americans do not care about Sarah's lies.

Voters care that 2 good solid American names are going to be on the ballot McCain/Palin. It is even better that one is a beautiful woman.


18 MILLION CRACKS ARE VOTING FOR PALIN 2008

HILLARY 2012

Posted by: Grace | September 13, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Not even elected yet and one flap after another.

Well, we at least know she is a Republican for sure.

Now, only if we could a get video of her speaking in tongue, teaching about Creationism....


Posted by: Mighty7 | September 13, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:27 PM

PROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF

come on, man, stop just quoting media trash
__________________________________________-

WHY YOU SHOULDN'T TRUST THE MEDIAS SPIN

here is a fake article designed to explain why the media is not always right, and rarely paints the facts.

MCCAIN WAKES OBAMA UP, ANOTHER UNDERHANDED TACTIC.

today in his home obama was sleeping quite serenely when john mccain his presidential rival woke him up seemingly for no other reason than to cause obama more unnecessary stress.

karen hayes an obama supporter said "mccain is so sneaky, thinks he can get away with this crap." and obamas neighbor said "obamas a nice man, ive never woken him up."

-by anne kornblut

whats missing? obama scheduled a talk with mccain about the campaigns passions being so heated, obama was "taking a nap" at 12:30, and mccain was right on time.

the mccain campaign then calls this article "a smear".

the obama campaign takes offense and calls mccain a liar because in an interview he said he was against waking people up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Haw! Haw! Haw!

Sarah's got Ol' Bama in Rumpelstiltskin Mode!

Stomp! Stomp! Stomp!

Posted by: DaTourist | September 13, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican Party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon, former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.
Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search. AIPAC and PNAC are the military industrial complex.
Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican Party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda? The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about religion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic surveillance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangelicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continuously for over 30 years. Yes the left has their own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican administration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The consolidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever, gridlocked legislature with only two parties for representation, a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras placed on every street corner. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, incrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Here's the straight truth to all US voters:

McCAIN IS A LIAR.

STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS IS CROOKED.

Need proof? Go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH
0xzsogzAk

Spread the word. Share this clip with ten friends.

Remember, McCain is a member of the party known for another infamous crooked liar: Nixon.

Our country cannot survive another four years of dishonesty.


Posted by: VoiceofReason5 | September 13, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a liar. Palin is not. He is making her lie. She did not say she went to Iraq in her ABC interview.

Posted by: Sarah | September 13, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:29 PM

WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIM BEST SAY ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN.......

"He is a vicious person"
Former representative Charles LeBoutillier R-NY
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"An embarrassment to the party"
Arizona GOP state senator Susan Johnson
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"There is nothing redeeming about John Mccain...he's a hypocrite"
Former house GOP whip Tom DeLay
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"The thought of him being president sends a chill down my spine. He is erratic"
Senator Thad Cochran, R- MS
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"Hard headed is one way to say it. Arrogant is another way to say it. It's a quality about him that disturbs me".
Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
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"What happens if he gets angry in a crisis...? It's the presidents job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don't see that he has that quality".
Former Arizona GOP chairman John Hinz
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"His temper would place this country at risk...and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind that should disqualify him"
Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NM
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"I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger."
Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM

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Oh, c'mon. Listen to the geniuses like dale and dave and pete and realize that these people you quote are nothing but lib'rul biased media obama supporters. So therefore, they can be safely ignored and the mcainiacs won't have to do any, you know, actual critical thinking or any other pinko commie activity like that....

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Who is Sarah Palin? So far almost everything that was presented to us at the GOP convention was a lie or at the very least a monumental stretching of the truth. I think McCain/Palin, like Bush/Cheney believe in "the ends justify the means".

I still find it amazing that some otherwise intelligent people are supporting this ticket. They are upset at the press and media for calling them on their daily lies.

Dear John and Sarah, this is not the media of Bush/Cheney term one. No more rolling over, no more threats from the GOP, NO MORE LIES! That is the type of stuff that got us into Iraq.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Y’all please leave me and my soulmate alone!

By now, everyone knows that I did not really go into Iraq. I know I said I was in an Iraq “battle zone.” Of course, what I really meant was that I was at an Iraq/Kuwait border crossing. I can’t help it if you all can’t hear and follow along. So, sue me!

Plus, I don’t get why everyone wants me to be so darn “accurate” and “truthful” anyway.

You guys have to admit, “battle zone” sounds a lot more cooler and tons more impressive than “border.” Border, well, that just sounds like something you might name your kid!

Anyways, do I have to explain EVERYTHING? Reporters, by the way, all of you pretty much really do suck.

Now, where’s my wee one?.. and where’s your cameraman?

-SP

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Haw! Haw! Haw!

Obama says he's gonna get really tuff for about the fourth or fifth time!

We're a-scairt! Oh, yes, we are!

Posted by: DaTourist | September 13, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

The drum beat continiues. This is a stupid story.

Posted by: jmd | September 13, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Traveling outside of Alaska is considered foreign travel to this idiot! She's dumber than McCain but cuter!!

Posted by: Tom Quinton | September 13, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

If this was about facts, the candidates would be selected based on written tests. This is about winning.

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 13, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

We've had 7.5 years of Bush/Cheney lying and secrecy. And look where that has gotten us. I guess for some people lying and secrecy are fine and dandy. Over and over again the words from McCain and Palin have been shown to be lies and Palin, especially, has been shown to love secrecy and punishing those who she doesn't like. Haven't we had enough of this?

Posted by: homer | September 13, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Hey, don't go insulting us Wing Nuts!
(Detroit Red Wings fan)

Over and out.

P.S. Don't forget to watch for Sarah's latest lies tomorrow morning on as many talk shows as she can get her mug on.

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

What a joke. Please, libs, give it a rest. We're electing McCain/Palin and that's just the way it's gonna be.

Stop with the inane nit-picking.

Posted by: McCain/Palin supporter | September 13, 2008 3:23 PM
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But why? Why are you voting for them? Why when you know they are telling a lie. Not just one lie but many! Look, I don't care if she did or didn't make the trip. But the fact that she lied scares me. And it scares me even more to read comments like yours.

Posted by: VA_Voter | September 13, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

"I really like him." Senator Larry Craig

Posted by: Larry | September 13, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:29 PM

"Wow! Another day, another Palin scandal. Obama may be onto something with "growing pattern of deception".

Being a wing-nut must be a tough job. Everyday a new set of facts to spin away."

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But, of course, they never were concerned with silly little liberal things like 'reality' and 'facts' anyway. In their worldview, everything is up for grabs and they just believe whatever fits their dogma and doesn't trouble their delicate little psyches.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Another day, another Palin scandal. Obama may be onto something with "growing pattern of deception".

Being a wing-nut must be a tough job. Everyday a new set of facts to spin away.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HIM BEST SAY ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN.......

"He is a vicious person"
Former representative Charles LeBoutillier R-NY
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"An embarrassment to the party"
Arizona GOP state senator Susan Johnson
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"There is nothing redeeming about John Mccain...he's a hypocrite"
Former house GOP whip Tom DeLay
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"The thought of him being president sends a chill down my spine. He is erratic"
Senator Thad Cochran, R- MS
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"Hard headed is one way to say it. Arrogant is another way to say it. It's a quality about him that disturbs me".
Larry Wilkerson, former chief aide to Colin Powell
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"What happens if he gets angry in a crisis...? It's the presidents job to negotiate and stay calm. I just don't see that he has that quality".
Former Arizona GOP chairman John Hinz
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"His temper would place this country at risk...and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind that should disqualify him"
Former Senator Bob Smith, R-NM
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"I decided I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger."
Senator Pete Domenici, R-NM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Hillary Clinton claiming she was under fire when she landed. Hillary lied and was not elected. Palin lied and should not be elected.

Posted by: RegisUrgel | September 13, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

"He is in fact ready. Mccain by comparison is an uneducated fool.
People don't change, Since they were married he has just lived off his wife like he did his family when he was young. Even his political career was bought for him. He has "NEVER" in his life personally created, built, or accomplished anything on his own. If he had been born into the circumstances of Obama he would have just lived a life on welfare and died of drugs and alcohol. Hell, he has already spent most of his life as an alcoholic as it is. Please, tell me what business he has built or anything he has ever accomplished on his own? Even with no responsibilities, no pressures and everything being paid for, the best he could do in school was to finish 894 out of a class of 899. My God, you can;t want this man for your president. Wake up. he wasn't even smart enough to raise the money to run for president with out his wife giving him an allowance. Jesus H Christ, step back and look at this man you want to vote for, is there something wrong with you people."

You overlooked the fact that there's people out there (plenty of them) voting on popularity instead of the issues. WaPo put forth a previous article that mentioned, most of these people voting on who would look better in the White House, they preferred McCain vs. the rest of us who prefer the issues.

McCain speaks to smaller crowd compared to Obama on the issues. Obama has a complete outline, a straight LIST of things that need attention, and McCain's is quite limited. I suppose that is why the Dem's convention was more representative of this vast population, vs. McCain's convention. You're overlooking the fact that he's a POW, and there are people out there who find that enough (notice the earlier reference on popularity or emotion) alone to vote McCain into office. There are some who are well off as well, and they fear of changes (not the change that McCain proposes compared to Obama). Apart from those, there's people out there who really view his history as a POW as enough to push him into office. Meanwhile, the rest of us are paying attention to the economy, wars, education, healthcare, etc. McCain's not likely to push in these areas, compared to Obama.

I'm not voting for Obama based on his community organizing. However, after becoming educated on what's happening in those areas (Obama's list of issues compared to McCain's), I'm very thankful he has had that humble experience of getting down and performing in community service, you know sharing experience with others and trying to help the situation.

I don't knock McCain's POW experience. I cannot imagine it. I just don't find that, especially after these past two terms, to be a reason at all to push him into office. Some argue with disappointment that plenty of us don't want to feel "emotionally pushed" to consider McCain FOR his POW history and find it being used like a strategy on emotions which we feel we see past; these people say McCain's POW experience is an important part of who he is. Granted. Our experiences do play a role. I personally don't link POW experience with a reason to be president of the United States, however. Likewise, Obama's community service will have played a role in his judgment too, seeing and witnessing issues among people who aren't so well off and are trying. It is very deep. I want a deep president like that, with the impact of this experience regarding our people, common hardworking people, the judgment he will bring on the vast of our behalf and to protect us, I want a president like that in that White House. I hope that other future candidates follow suit. Having that understanding, versus leaders who are ignorant of the fact and have no will to look things up themselves, is a part of leadership, and it is a part of judgment. I will take judgment and experience combined, than just simply experience anyday.

Change from the bottom up, not top down.

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 13, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Alex H: You are just like the Republicans. The liberal media hasn't criticized Palin's hair, clothes, glasses, shoes, choice of college, children, husband, faith, travel, church or God. Both Dems and Repubs have merely asked: why did you switch colleges 5 or 6 times? why is your daughter pregnant and you oppose sex education in school (you are clearly not providing it at home) and why did you try to hide your daughter's stomach with a baby's blanket? why do you say you believe in God and are a Christian but you have lied about the Bridge to Nowhere, Earmarks, your trips abroad and selling the plane on EBAY?

Posted by: charice33 | September 13, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

The "barracuda" and the "body snatcher" use lies as alibies.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Dale,

Okay, i'll bite. McCain lied about

* the keating 5 scandal

* his abortion flip flop

* Palin's position on the bridge to nowhere

* crowd attendance at recent events

* Obama's suupport of the anti pedophile bill

* the ridiculous lie about Obama supposedly calling Palin a pig

* the connection between Iran and al qeada

these are just a very few of his lies. But I'm sure you'll just claim they're media lies. In your view, anyone who shows McCain and Palin are lying is biased and so can be dismissed. You only believe people who agree with you.

That's your right of course, but it's hardly the position of an adult.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse


Could John Mccain be this insane?
worth the 2 minutes to watch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CdKuLRmg8k&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

This was written by a fellow POW who was imprisoned with McCain, for a longer time than McCain. This man also was at Annapolis with John McCain;

Senator John Sidney McCain, III is a remarkable man who has made enormous personal achievements. And he is a man that I am proud to call a fellow POW who "Returned With Honor." That's our POW motto. But since many of you keep asking what I think of him, I've decided to write it out. In short, I think John Sidney McCain, III is a good man, but not someone I will vote for in the upcoming election to be our President of the United States.

The good doctor runs through the reasons why being a POW isn't a qualification for being president (which obviously applies to himself) and you can click over to read his explanation. Military.com deserves the links for putting this up.

But these are the reasons he's not voting for McCain:

Most of us who survived that experience are now in our late 60's and 70's. Sadly, we have died and are dying off at a greater rate than our non-POW contemporaries. We experienced injuries and malnutrition that are coming home to roost. So I believe John's age (73) and survival expectation are not good for being elected to serve as our President for 4 or more years.

I can verify that John has an infamous reputation for being a hot head. He has a quick and explosive temper that many have experienced first hand. Folks, quite honestly that is not the finger I want next to that red button.

It is also disappointing to see him take on and support Bush's war in Iraq, even stating we might be there for another 100 years. For me John represents the entrenched and bankrupt policies of Washington-as-usual. The past 7 years have proven to be disastrous for our country. And I believe John's views on war, foreign policy, economics, environment, health care, education, national infrastructure and other important areas are much the same as those of the Bush administration.

I'm disappointed to see John represent himself politically in ways that are not accurate. He is not a moderate Republican. On some issues he is a maverick. But his voting record is far to the right. I fear for his nominations to our Supreme Court, and the consequent continuing loss of individual freedoms, especially regarding moral and religious issues. John is not a religious person, but he has taken every opportunity to ally himself with some really obnoxious and crazy fundamentalist ministers lately. I was also disappointed to see him cozy up to Bush because I know he hates that man. He disingenuously and famously put his arm around the guy, even after Bush had intensely disrespected him with lies and slander. So on these and many other instances, I don't see that John is the "straight talk express" he markets himself to be.

McCain has been lying to us with his "five years of torture" story line. . .

Was he tortured for 5 years? No. He was subjected to torture and maltreatment during his first 2 years, from September of 1967 to September of 1969. After September of 1969 the Vietnamese stopped the torture and gave us increased food and rudimentary health care. Several hundred of us were captured much earlier. I got there April 20, 1965 so my bad treatment period lasted 4 1/2 years. President Ho Chi Minh died on September 9, 1969, and the new regime that replaced him and his policies was more pragmatic. They realized we were worth a lot as bargaining chips if we were alive. And they were right because eventually Americans gave up on the war and agreed to trade our POW's for their country. A damn good trade in my opinion! But my point here is that John allows the media to make him out to be THE hero POW, which he knows is absolutely not true, to further his political goals.


Coming from a fellow midshipman and POW who knows John McCain -- knows who is really is and what he really has (and has not) gone through -- I think Dr. Butler's honorable opinion is worth a whole hell of a lot.

Posted by: Frank | September 13, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Next, McCaincerface's campaign will be telling us about the sniper fire that Miss Piggy Palin dodged on her secret mission to Iraq. Don't ask for details, you terrorist sympathisers -- it's a national security secret!

Posted by: Bukko in Australia | September 13, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I grow old
I grow old
Dare I wear my trousers rolled?
Dare I quote Yeats?

Posted by: John McCain | September 13, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

She's a liar. Just like Bush. McCain's campaign are a bunch of liars, just like Bush. This is about Sarah Palin's honesty. She's a liar.

Posted by: Kevin Morgan | September 13, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I might add too...Tucker, Steve and company again release these sorts of things when they think people won't notice. First we have them releasing the fact Palin's daughter is pregnant over a holiday weekend, now we are informed, well ok, so she didn't exactly visit Eye-raq in the aftermath of a major hurricane. Guess what? People noticed!

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

What's the matter Alex? Disappointed that Slick Sarah has turned out to be nothing more than a common liar?

Posted by: Phxflyer | September 13, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

I guess Anne Kornbutt and her colleagues in the MSM don't realize that the harder they squeeze Palin, the more voters will slip through their fingers. The MSM has completely lost its credibility on the Sara Palin issue with at least 50% of the American population. A lot of people will not listen to the MSM media any more because of their initial smear attacks when she was announced as a VP candidate. Even worse, many people (like me) have now come to regard the MSM as a contrary indicator - anything that comes from them is automatically false and deceptive until proven otherwise.

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

alex h,

Your crocodile tears for feminism and the rights of women are laughable. But, please, keep it up...

Women can see right through your bs.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

This just in: McCain and Palin confirm that there's no truth to the rumor that "The truth will set you free".

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

JC,

I couldn't have said it any better. Republicans are famous for being reality challenged, and of course they brag that "we act, and create our own reality". Now with McCain/Palin they've gone and cut themselves loose from reality all together. It's a valiant attempt you're making to splash a little cold water in their face, but as far as bringing them back, good luck with that!

Posted by: orrg1 | September 13, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Palin was born Sarah Louise Heath in Sandpoint, Idaho in 1964.

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 6:10 PM
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Sandpoint, Idaho? As in home to Richard Butler and the Aryan Nations movement? How fitting.

Posted by: Seig Heil! | September 13, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Every time you turn over a rock it turns out that Sarah Palin has lied. Has she told the truth about anything?

Posted by: Phxflyer | September 13, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:12 PM

i respect that position more than most others, however i still disagree.

yes we have a certain demographic bias, as california screams, and why we need and most should prefer an electoral college should they take the time to understand why we have it.

however, to claim that bias allows us to ignore facts because we prefer the way a media outlet spins it, and in some instances ignores other facts, is where i think ignorance has gone too far.

i dont beleive that any person who knows the facts in this election can vote obama.

simply because its painfully clear that john mccain has never lied once in this election.

however i must repeat, i respect that you are waiting for more conclusive statements by the candidates themselves it shows a certain understanding that is more open than most.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Vote for McCain? You've got to be crazy or desperate. America doesn't need a McCain/Palin administration spewing lies to cover up their mistakes or opportunism.

Posted by: charice33 | September 13, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Ah Scott, my favorite paid Neo-Conjob poster here on the Washington Post blogs. You are nothing if not prolific. Accurate? No, but prolific. Then I keep forgetting you get paid by the post.

Palin wouldn't know the truth if it was a salmon which jumped out of the river and slapped her in the kisser. If she believes the twisted "facts" she keeps spewing or if she is deliberately twisting the "facts" it matters not, for neither bodes well for this country. Yup, McCain sure put country first!

And please, spare us the posts from and links to the Neo-Conjob web sites, I believe anyone who cares to find them already know how to.

Posted by: Oh brother! | September 13, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

pete,

What about raygun proclaiming himself a citizen of the world?

Pete's response: crickets.

Typical gop bs: slash and burn and, when exposed as a lying scumsucker, move on to the next lie.

So predictable.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

ANOTHER LIBERAL MEDIA-SUPPORTED SLIME ATTACK!!!!!

Sarah Palin has energized millions of American into planning to vote McCain-Palin, who now clearly lead in all polls.

Nothing will stop the democrat misogynists from endlessly attacking Palin like rabid dogs with the same savagery they used on Hillary. As before, they are being supported 100% by the liberal media, led by msnbc with their chief woman-hater and tax cheat, the deeply disturbed Oedipus olbermann.

The loony-left has criticized Palin's hair, her clothes, her glasses, her shoes, her choice of college, her children, her husband, her faith, her travel, her church and even her God. This slimebag behavior shows that the loony-left has NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE to OFFER - just smears and hysterical mud-slinging.

The "God D@#! America" (and Women) crowd is as pathetic as it gets. And now even "sweetie" hussein tries to get in a few below-the-belt slaps of his own. What a guy!

Supporters of the Real Americans Team hope that the loony-left media keeps up these vicious, baseless attacks, since they will help ensure an overwhelming victory for McCain-Palin.

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Posted by: ALEX H. | September 13, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Vote for John McCain - an American war hero.

Posted by: Pete | September 13, 2008 6:13 PM

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Written by a REAL hero.
I knew Hackworth by the way

by Col. David H. Hackworth
John McCain is being hailed by the press as a "genuine war hero." But is he a war hero in the conventional sense like Audie Murphy and John Glenn?
Or is his "war hero" status the creation of a very slick publicity campaign that plays on flag, duty, honor and country?
For sure, McCain has the fruitsalad a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars , two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service gongs.
On a purely medal count basis, he outweighs Murphy and Glenn, who both for years repeatedly performed extraordinary deeds on the ground or in the air against an armed enemy.
McCain's valor awards are based on what happened in 1967, when during his 23d mission over Vietnam, he was shot down, seriously injured, captured and then spent 5 1/2 brutal years as a POW.
In an attempt to find out exactly what the man did to earn these many hero awards, I asked his Senate office three times to provide copies of the narratives for each medal. I'm still waiting.
I next went to the Pentagon. Within a week, I received a recap of his medals and many of the narratives that give the details of what he did.
None of the awards, less the DFC, were for heroism over the battlefield where he spent no more than 20 hours. Two Naval officers described the awards as "boilerplate" and "part of an SOP medal package given to repatriated (Vietnamera) POWs."
McCain's Silver Star narrative for the period 27 October 1967 the day after he was shot down to 8 December 1968 reads: "His captors… subjected him to extreme mental and physical cruelties in an attempt to obtain military information and false confessions for propaganda purposes. Through his resistance to those brutalities, he contributed significantly towards the eventual abandonment…" of such harsh treatment by the North Vietnamese.
Yet in McCain's own words just four days after being captured, he admits he violated the U.S. Code of Conduct by telling his captors "O.K, I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
A Vietnam vet detractor says, "He received the nation's third highest award, the Silver Star, for treason. He provided aid and comfort to the enemy!"
The rest of his valor awards issued automatically every year while he was a POW read much like the Silver Star. More boilerplate often repeating the exact same words. An example: "By his heroic endeavors, exceptional skill, and devotion to duty, he reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of the Naval Service and the United States Armed Forces."
Yet McCain's conduct while a POW negates these glowing comments. The facts are that he signed a confession and declared himself a "black criminal who performed deeds of an air pirate." This statement and other interviews he gave to the Communist press press were used as propaganda to fan the flames of the antiwar movement.
Accounts by McCain and other writers tell of the horror he endured: relentlessly beatings, torture, broken limbs. All inflicted during savage interrogations. Yet no other POW was a witness to these accounts. 
A former POW says "No man witnessed another man during interrogations… We relied on each other to tell the truth when a man was returned to his cell."
The U.S. Navy says two eyewitnesses are required for any award of heroism. But for the valor awards McCain received, there are no eyewitnesses, less himself and his captors. And they're not talking.
Our POWs in Vietnam were treated appallingly. The Viets would either break a POW or kill him. POWs provided info beyond name, rank and serial number or they didn't come back.
Based on these stalwart men's horrific experiences, the Code of Conduct has been changed. A POW says, "Now the training is to give them something… don't risk permanent damage to health, mind or body." 
McCain refused an early release. An act of valor? Three former POWs told me he was ordered to turn it down by his U.S. POW commander and he "just followed orders."
McCain certainly doesn't appear to be a war hero by conventional standards, but rather a tough survivor whose handlers are overplaying the war hero card.
David H. Hackworth died in June 2005, he was a much-decorated and highly unconventional former career Army officer who became a combat legend in Vietnam. Col. Hackworth received 78 combat awards — including a Distinguished Service Cross, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and eight Purple Hearts — during his 25-year military career which spanned the Korean and Vietnam wars..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Lonewolf: You're combining two posts. My first was what I thought I'd heard. the Sandpoint, Idaho posting was fact.

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

It is perfectly clear that Governor Palin is NO ELITE. Under Republican guidance, that means she is qualified for high office. Some of us decline to take advice from Republicans. That's because we notice the situation that obtained on and before January 20, 2001, has greatly deteriorated under Republican supervision. On that point alone, I choose to vote for other team, on the off chance they can put things right. Staying the course is not something I want to do.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | September 13, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

dale,

Again, you call for facts but say you'll refuse to believe any facts anyone provides. Not exactly a strong debating point on your part.

Obama not constitutionally qualified? Please, oh please, expound...

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow. When you look at Cindy McCain while John is speaking, she looks just like Angela Lansbury. It really reminds me of a novel by Richard Condon. Don' get your pants in a tizzy, repubs. I said Condon, not condom.

Posted by: Neil | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM
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Neil: Might the title of that book be THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE?

And we thought it was only fiction...

Posted by: I Programmed McSame | September 13, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse


god, i love this country!

only in america your best credential in becoming the president is how much you can lie.

no wonder every country in the world is laughing their a$$es off at us.

first we have a boy cheerleader who was awol from the military...

and now we have the republicans all salivating over mrs bullwinkle who doesn't even know what the 'bush doctrine' is...

LOL

Posted by: BOB | September 13, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse


Joe Biden had 15 years of experience when he voted against Desert Storm in 1990. He had 30 years of experience when he opposed the surge in Iraq.

It's time for him to take the Amtrak out of Washington forever.

Posted by: Pete | September 13, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

It's not about Palin's personal life, it's not about her "exaggeration" of her foreign experiences, it's not even about any hypocrisy in her demands that others life she can't even live herself.

No, it's about her stupidity. It's about her ignorance.

I was a McCain supporter until he picked this person to be VP. I was hoping he'd pick Romney to be honest. Romney believes in a freak religion, but at least I could be sure he'd know how to run the government when McCain kicks off.

But Palin? Oh boy, now we're in real trouble.

Posted by: typ | September 13, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the first politician in history being ridiculed for not traveling enough at the taxpayer's expense.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

This just in from the NYTimes:

WASILLA, Alaska — Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal.

So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as one of her qualifications for running the roughly $2 million agency.

Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five schoolmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages....

Throughout her political career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials.


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Sounds like good ol' boy cronyism to me. This must be some of that "executive experience" that rightwingers are fond of discussing.

You know Palin has more "executive experience" than Obama and Biden, right? Oh, and also McCain. Looks like she knows how to abuse it, too.

Posted by: castanea | September 13, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse


Vote for John McCain - an American war hero.

Posted by: Pete | September 13, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:04 PM

facts is the only thing im asking for and you cant give any....come on, stop trying to repeat the facts we throw at you, they dont stick.

obama could be kicked out of the office as soon as he wins (provided he starts an upturn). because he may not fit hte constitutional requirements to be in office.

joe biden as a president? -shudders-

id rather have palin thx

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

The great thing about Sarah Palin is her youth and vitality. No matter what happens in this election, she will be a big thorn in the side of Democrats for the next 25 years or so. She pulls the rug out from under the whole left wing socialist mindset that encourages victimhood and dependence on government.

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

to scott: palin was born in sandpoint idaho i believe. but thanx for narrowing it down to a quarter of the entire western u.s. for us.

Posted by: lonewolf | September 13, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:48 PM amongst at least 5 different sites before the media bias conspiracy, these websites are voted by AMERICANS as the top 5 most bias websites on the internet
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Dale I have been following both campaigns all year and all candidates for a matter of fact. I personally want to see and hear the candidates directly, so that I can make, hopefully, an informed decision on who I think would be best to run this country.

In addition, I have been following politics for several years and have been involved in Gov't at varying degrees.

Based on my observation and intellect, I made my own opinions of what I thought about each of the candidates. Some people would consider my opinions to be biased, as I am sure some one perceive yours as being biased.

This is true of most people, based on their family values, life experiences, intellect, and how they perceive people and the world in general.

Now, based on my observations of these candidates and what I have heard and seen so far, I would say that both websites have been fair in their reporting. If I did not believe that they have been fair in their reporting, then I would not have posted the links to them in previous blogs.

I posted them in previous blogs just in case other people who are posting had never heard of them.

Basically, both are just another "resource" of political information for people to use in making their own 'BIASED'or 'UNBIASED' opinions.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse


wow.. palin is turning into as much of a liar as george w bush.

bush and palin are very similiar.. but i think sarah has hairier legs. but then.. george shaves his.

LOL

Posted by: BOB | September 13, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I was at one. They hand out signs and have a bunch of shills who cheer on que and boo every time Obamas name is mentioned. It is hilarious. Real people in the crowed are just standing there not doing much of anything, just watching the show, as this group are going nuts on que. It's a joke. No one cares a bit about Mccain or what he has to say, They just come out to see the dancing monkey, the stooge, in the name of Palin.
Its a medicin show, a joke. The best part when you watch though is Palin. She actually thinks she is running for VP. She is nothing more then a stooge. Does what she is told keeps her mouth shut.


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Here is a piece of information related to the McCain camp lying about their crowds. Here (NW Missouri) they had an auto-dialer call every household within at least a 50 mile radius of their appearance in Lee's Summit MO. A pre-recorded message extended an invitation to all to attend the event. Over half the audience weren't supporters at all, they were gawkers. The "vast crowd of energized supporters" is all a bunch of trumped up baloney.
Posted by: Kevin Morgan | September 13, 2008 5:59 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama never served in the military, never ran a business, and has never governed a city or state. Sorry Obama, "community organizer" just doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Pete ranted: "At least Palin did not proclaim herself "a citizen of the world" when she visited Kuwait or Iraq."

--Ya mean like Ronald Reagan did at the United Nations?

Idiot.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

So Obama registered voters in Chicago. Big deal, All he had to do was jot down names at the cemetery.

Posted by: Pete | September 13, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

The truth is she visited Alaskan Natl Guard troops in Kuwait briefly and stopped at the airport in Ireland on the way home so the plane could refuel. And maybe she's spent a drunken weekend in Mexico years ago, or maybe strayed over the Canadian border on a snowmobile while hunting moose or something.

But Caribou Barbie is no world traveler and has no foreign policy experience. Period.

Posted by: The Truth | September 13, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

jc and others who are trying to respond with logic and facts: Shame on you.

Posted by: McNut | September 13, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Palin was born Sarah Louise Heath in Sandpoint, Idaho in 1964.

Anonymous: Please get your lies and disinformation from a reliable source like Karl Rove.

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse


At least Palin did not proclaim herself "a citizen of the world" when she visited Kuwait or Iraq.

Posted by: Pete | September 13, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere, accepted government funding, dropped her support when the government started asking questions and never gave the money back.

Then there's this other question of the state plane that she sold...for a loss.

Hmmm, firing people for not agreeing with her? Gee abuse of power. So, if she's VP, she'll be outing CIA operatives around the world. She's another Cheney for sure.

How much of the United States will she sell for pennies and how many will die because she can't take criticism? She knows as much about the economy as McSame and is just like Cheney...but dumber.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

ya just gotta love these republicans!! not only will they slither the length of the gutter to obtain a victory in november, they will build the damn gutter too!! everything that MCPUDDING AND CUPCAKE have critizied the democrats for seems to mirror their own lies and failures. i knew all along that MCBUSH had temper issues, but it would seem that lucidity has begun to seep from the mind of the maverick. an all time low was the add that claimed obama was behind the teaching of sex education to pre-schoolers in illinois. reality of course was far different, and how dare MCfruitcake deliberately condemn anyone for teaching youngsters the art of self-defense against gutter-crawling pedophiles! but, you know, if another four years of death defying stupidity and reckless leadership is what many americans want, then what can you say about a country that is so immature as to allow this tragic comedy to continue unabated. many obama supporters have begun to worry, but not I!! i am confident that the majority of voters know from which tree the nuts fall!!

Posted by: lonewolf | September 13, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Sarah and McCain - Let's see - lie, lie, half-truth,lie, lie, half-truth, lie, lie, half-truth, lie, lie, half-truth, lie, lie, half-truth, lie, lie, half-truth.

... hhmmmmm who does this sound like? For all those Dems gnashing their teeth for the past few weeks - looks like the real stories about Palin are starting to bubble out of Alaska; unethical - secret dealings, vindictive - anti-democratic actions in the govenors office. -

Sarah's lipstick is starting to run down her chin. McCain has a statistically good chance of dieing in office (due to his age) - do you want this vile little "christian" with her finger on the nukes?

Posted by: GOPNAZI | September 13, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

--clueless spokesmodel
--carnival contortionist
--trailer park
--waitress

Aw come on, guys. What? No snide remarks about big hair? Beer drinkin'? Her accent?!

Oh, and just keep on telling yourselves how that "waitress" should feel at home in your party.

Maybe not a lie, but it's certainly self-delusional.

Posted by: jeanneb | September 13, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere, accepted government funding, dropped her support when the government started asking questions and never gave the money back.

Then there's this other question of the state plane that she sold...for a loss.

How much of the United States will she sell for pennies. She knows as much about the economy as McSame.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous: Hate to ruin your party but Palin was born in Wyoming or Montana or Idaho before her father moved the family up to Alaska I believe.

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."

* Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School you are unstable.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring or co-sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.

* If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

Posted by: JC | September 13, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Proof and facts don't matter to the mcainiancs -- they want to support mccain/palin because they feed their supporters' psychological need for nothing that challenges or upsets their preconceived dogma and biases.

When faced with facts and proofs that refute their predetermined dogma, they will close their eyes, plug their ears and shout 'nah-nah-nah.' When shown that their beloved and not to be questioned demigod candidates are lying sacks of excrement, they will lash out the political opposition and whoever dares to deliver the proof of their candidates mendacity and hypocrisy.

The vast majority of them have long ago constructed an impervious emotional and psychological armament that will brook no doubt or dissent from their rigidly lockstep dogma. Most of them are infants in an adult world and scared nearly to paralysis and unable to construct a single original thought.

They are sad and to be pitied but not accommodated in their petulant tantrums and demands that we lower ourselves to their level.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ks | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

After 19 months, I still don't know what a community organizer in Chicago. I'm from New York and the only community organizer I know is Al Sharpton.

Posted by: Pete | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

"All Sarah Palin needs to do in order to become a foreign policy expert is to take a one week whirlwind tour of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Germany."

Ah, more rightwing lies. It's not her lack of foreign policy experience that has her in hot water this time, it's her lying. She lied about being in Iraq and lied about being in a battle zone.

Those lies are dangerous things. If she lied about her travels, and she lied about the "bridge to nowhere," and she lied about accepting earmarks, what other lies is she hiding?

And is there chance she'll ever STOP lying?

Posted by: castanea | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

He is in fact ready. Mccain by comparison is an uneducated fool.
People don't change, Since they were married he has just lived off his wife like he did his family when he was young. Even his political career was bought for him. He has "NEVER" in his life personally created, built, or accomplished anything on his own. If he had been born into the circumstances of Obama he would have just lived a life on welfare and died of drugs and alcohol. Hell, he has already spent most of his life as an alcoholic as it is. Please, tell me what business he has built or anything he has ever accomplished on his own? Even with no responsibilities, no pressures and everything being paid for, the best he could do in school was to finish 894 out of a class of 899. My God, you can;t want this man for your president. Wake up. he wasn't even smart enough to raise the money to run for president with out his wife giving him an allowance. Jesus H Christ, step back and look at this man you want to vote for, is there something wrong with you people.

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Oh I get it - Obama is ready to be President not because he is qualified, but because he has a "team of 300 experts" around him. Jeez, are you for real? You were joking, weren't you? I didn't realize we were electing "teams of experts" instead of individuals. Sounds like more socialist nonsense.

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 5:54 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY!!

Sarah Palin candidly talks about her "QUALIFICATIONS"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioGC40_AWhs&feature=related

You will LAUGH TILL YOU CRY!

Posted by: Paul | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY!!

Sarah Palin candidly talks about her "QUALIFICATIONS"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioGC40_AWhs&feature=related

You will LAUGH TILL YOU CRY!

Posted by: Paul | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Proof and facts don't matter to the mcainiancs -- they want to support mccain/palin because they feed their supporters' psychological need for nothing that challenges or upsets their preconceived dogma and biases.

When faced with facts and proofs that refute their predetermined dogma, they will close their eyes, plug their ears and shout 'nah-nah-nah.' When shown that their beloved and not to be questioned demigod candidates are lying sacks of excrement, they will lash out the political opposition and whoever dares to deliver the proof of their candidates mendacity and hypocrisy.

The vast majority of them have long ago constructed an impervious emotional and psychological armament that will brook no doubt or dissent from their rigidly lockstep dogma. Most of them are infants in an adult world and scared nearly to paralysis and unable to construct a single original thought.

They are sad and to be pitied but not accommodated in their petulant tantrums and demands that we lower ourselves to their level.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

He is in fact ready. Mccain by comparison is an uneducated fool.
People don't change, Since they were married he has just lived off his wife like he did his family when he was young. Even his political career was bought for him. He has "NEVER" in his life personally created, built, or accomplished anything on his own. If he had been born into the circumstances of Obama he would have just lived a life on welfare and died of drugs and alcohol. Hell, he has already spent most of his life as an alcoholic as it is. Please, tell me what business he has built or anything he has ever accomplished on his own? Even with no responsibilities, no pressures and everything being paid for, the best he could do in school was to finish 894 out of a class of 899. My God, you can;t want this man for your president. Wake up. he wasn't even smart enough to raise the money to run for president with out his wife giving him an allowance. Jesus H Christ, step back and look at this man you want to vote for, is there something wrong with you people.

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Oh I get it - Obama is ready to be President not because he is qualified, but because he has a "team of 300 experts" around him. Jeez, are you for real? You were joking, weren't you? I didn't realize we were electing "teams of experts" instead of individuals. Sounds like more socialist nonsense.

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 5:54 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow. When you look at Cindy McCain while John is speaking, she looks just like Angela Lansbury. It really reminds me of a novel by Richard Condon. Don' get your pants in a tizzy, repubs. I said Condon, not condom.

Posted by: Neil | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY!!

Sarah Palin candidly talks about her "QUALIFICATIONS"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioGC40_AWhs&feature=related

You will LAUGH TILL YOU CRY!

Posted by: Paul | September 13, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Pontius Pilate was not a governor - his title was Preconsul. This is perhaps the dumbest analogy that the Democrats have ever come up with - Obama is Jesus and Sarah Palin is evil because Pontius Pilate was a governor. So then are all state governors evil? Pontius Pilate was appointed by a dictator to rule over a foreign territory. Sarah Palin is an elected governor, a native of her state (unlike Obama), and she has the highest approval ratings of any governor in America.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous, quit telling lies about Palin. She wasn't a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, her husband was. There's more than enough truth on which to skewer Palin, there's no need to resort to fables.

Posted by: treetopflyer | September 13, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Here is a piece of information related to the McCain camp lying about their crowds. Here (NW Missouri) they had an auto-dialer call every household within at least a 50 mile radius of their appearance in Lee's Summit MO. A pre-recorded message extended an invitation to all to attend the event. Over half the audience weren't supporters at all, they were gawkers. The "vast crowd of energized supporters" is all a bunch of trumped up baloney.

Posted by: Kevin Morgan | September 13, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:52 PM

read the rest of what i said, there are interviews where he speaks to over 3 different teams he quoted, and he was there 5 years.

its idiotic to assume he did teh same thing every time.

and what i asked for was without media coverage.

im not asking for fly on the wall coverage, im asking for people to understand how congress works, and use some legislation he passed to prove that he is lying.

for someone to prove that obama has something more to show than a worthless education reform bill (that only reforms an already useless law into a more useless one).

please give ONE INSTANCE OF PROVEN LIE and then ill show u the proof that obama lies according to his senatorial election, where he didnt pay back 250k in campaign contributions that he got from rezko, and lied about how much 4 times before admiting the 250k.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh I get it - Obama is ready to be President not because he is qualified, but because he has a "team of 300 experts" around him. Jeez, are you for real? You were joking, weren't you? I didn't realize we were electing "teams of experts" instead of individuals. Sounds like more socialist nonsense.

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I find McCain deeply offensive and horrifically frightening. What I would say is insane about his personality, he would call being a "maverick". America needs to wake up. McCain is putting a woman who is at most fit to be vice president of the Martha Stewart fan club in the international spotlight. He is spinning lies about her, and for some reason beyond me, a lot of people appear fascinated!!! Lets reserve our fascination regarding Mrs. Palin till AFTER the election. Right now, we should be talking about McCain, his appalling choices, and the fact that if elected, he will only deepen the hole we are in.

My goodness, how very crass and stupid we are appearing to the rest of the world. I would like to think as a nation we are more intelligent than McCain thinks (thus far his actions prove to me that he has a low opinion of the collective intelligence of the American people) and that we will send him home and his ice fishing side kick way back up north where she can enjoy her wonderful view of Russia.

WAKE UP AMERICA! STOP THE MADNESS!


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm

Consistently lying left and right. I'm further reminded of Bush. I'd like to see them develop some straight talk, and change the course of this consistent pattern. That could be the first thing they do because, plenty of us do not want that in our White House. We're done with consistent televised lies. There's been too much of this pattern of behavior going on in this here campaign. Get rid of it!!

Posted by: Obama2008 | September 13, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 5:43 PM

media smear is not proof, as is factual, the same standards for mccains ad is a standard for the WAPO.

if mccain is lying in his ad, according to you, then the WAPO can be lying as well by your standards.

im simply asking for EQUAL proof, on each side.

theres no proof to the rumors that mccain is lying. nothing hard and fast.

just media coverage, thats my point.

democrats cant make an informed opinion or stance, they can only follow media.

then they call us idiots for thinking for ourselves.

im sorry that i dont agree when sarah palin says the word black that shes racist. but thats what i get for being informed.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

It is sheer comedy to see the Bush lickspittles try to defend Palin. You all get a bee in your little bonnets whenever anyone suggests that your princess answer a softball question or two. What a bunch of bedwetters.

Posted by: RepublicansAreBrainDead | September 13, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

DALE. YOU are an absolute buffoon.

McCain's quotes / own words will not suffice?

Are you kidding me?

What you are asking is preposterous. You want us to offer fly-on-the-wall type proof that McCain is a liar? And his words - albeit spoken to a reporter or recorded for an entertainment program - are not acceptable?

You are pretty much saying that McCain's words do not matter.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: castanea
"A "byline" is the name of the reporter and her position. Are you saying that the words "Anne E. Kornblut" are intended to draw a negative opinion of McCain, or are you just another confused rightwing parrot?"

Please, when you hurl an insult, at least get some of the facts right."
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He DID get his facts right you ignorant yahoo. The, "words (sic) "Anne E. Kornblut" ", do indeed evoke a negative opinion of McCain. "Kornblut" is literally an epithet when used with respect to McCain.

Now how about taking your head out of your assets and growing yourself a thought.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous: You turnip, I was being sarcastic. You spend a lot of time writing on bathroom walls don't you?

Dale: McCain lied like mad to wife #1 while he was banging the current Mrs. McCain. He also lies every time he talks about being pro-alternative energy. He SKIPPED 8 alternative energy bill votes(stayed in his office) in order to protect his backing by the good ole' boys in the oil industry.

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Dale,

You say:
"a boom in the educational market for that specific area of growth ie, you need consistant people to up support and to do the labor of advancing technology. basically if theres only 5 people doing it, it wont get done fast."

I say:
There is a boom in the educational market for environmental engineering. Lot's of smart young people see this as a major growth factor. Heck, even the gas companies are trying to promote a "green" image. And I wouldn't diss the power of 5 guys in a garage banging. Heck, MicroSoft was just a few collage kids in a shady motel room at first.


You say:
"for technology to advance people require already technological items, for example access to pre-made solar panels to increase efficiency and price for the consumer, these items cost money, and our current disassociation that starting new programs doesnt cost money is downright offensive to me especially. and i wasnt talking about government cutting of science and technology, but the basic educational institutions have to be supporting growth for that industry and they are not."

How are educational institutions not supporting growth of green industry's?

You say:
"public opinion has to support it for it to be an issue, and right now it just doesnt, the biggest issue is economy, and that directly opposes advancing research costs."

I say:
Once again, gas companies are all running alternative energy research programs and putting major ad dollars into selling themselves as environmentally friendly. Why would they do that if it's not an issue with the public?

You say:
"if a democrat cannot run on social program reform, then no one else can propose introducing new programs in a positive light."

I say:
I hope that's not true. I don't think democrats have any monopoly on innovation.

Posted by: Superpants | September 13, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

And let's ALL remember just how much of a good American Palin is when she was a member of the AIP (Alaskan Independence Party) which advocated the secession of Alaska from the United States.

Traitorous B-I-T-C-H!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Is there anything that the McPain campaign will not lie about. America needs to wake up and stop looking for someone that looks like their neighbor to elect and instead look for someone that can lead the world by example.

Posted by: james - Los Angeles | September 13, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Jesus was a community organizer.
Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Exactly, Mccain looked over his picks and said " The heck with it, lets go with the cu*t".

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McCain thinks the women of this country are gullible, shallow and are not smart enough to have opinions on policies. He thinks all we want to see is a woman - any woman - so he went out and found us one. He's got one big disappointing revelation coming.

Posted by: Carol P. | September 13, 2008 5:46 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Well today seems to be going to Team Obama. McCain's meter just keeps going up today at http://www.boppoll.com. Team McCain seems to be taking the day off. Maybe Team Obama will put McCain's Bop total over 600,000.

Posted by: mgultch | September 13, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

For the TRUTH, go to:

http://factcheck.org/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

amongst at least 5 different sites before the media bias conspiracy, these websites are voted by AMERICANS as the top 5 most bias websites on the internet.

so yes, beleive what you want from those sites or look the information up yourself.

and YES castanea, the writer of this article has been consistantly voted the most liberally biased writer in the media, and was recently nearly fired for her front page article that was retracted by WAPO for slandering palin with false rumors.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Some facts you may not know.

THE EXPERIENCE MYTH OF OBAMA

I have worked with the Obama campaign on a local level since December and have met and spoken with Obama numerous times. Anyone who thinks Obama is not prepared for the office of president does not know Barack Obama. I don't think the campaign has spoken about it, although there have been articles written, maybe because it may have seemed kind of presumptive doing all this so many months before he even had the nomination, but that is not how Obama works.
Little is left to chance. So here is what the deal is:

Does Obama have the experience to be president, is he ready? It would be hard to say anyone is ready to be president, but what prepares one for the job?

Obama has been getting ready when his nomination was still no more then a dream. Obama has an advisory staff of over a 300. Most all are the top people in their fields. 4 of his staff are the top people on middle east politics in the world. He has numerous people on pretty much everything you could think of from global warming to world economics to energy and foreign policy to the military. Generals to scholars you name it, he has been working with these people for more then a year. Obama is a brilliant man, who easily knows more right now then any candidate who ever ran for the office of president. He is so up to speed it is astounding. John Mccain does not know or grasp a fraction of what Obama does. Mccain is in effect, a dinosaur, compared to Obama now. Mccain has no real practical experience or understanding in many of these areas at all. Just being in Washington for many years does not necessarily make you an expert nor knowledgeable in "Anything".
Bill Clinton said it best when he said,
"No one is really prepared to be president".
He was right and Obama understood that better then anyone long before he even began his journey for the presidency. So for over a year he has been quietly preparing. Like anything such as being a doctor or lawyer or any profession, your first introduction is academic, you go to school. Obama will by no means be learning on the job, he has been in school for more then a year. When enters office, Obama will be the most well prepared and ready president to ever walk into the white house.
He will also be surrounded by the finest staff ever assembled by any president in history.

If you do not want to vote for Barack Obama I can respect that, but by no means think he is not ready to be president. He will be the most ready man to ever win the office.

Thanks for listening
A Florida Obama worker

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All Sarah Palin needs to do in order to become a foreign policy expert is to take a one week whirlwind tour of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Germany. Obama did this a few months back and it gave him enough foreign policy experience to be Commander in Chief. Just ask the news media - that's all it takes if you are Obama. His one week trip was a profound moment in world affairs. But seriously, can anyone explain exactly what foreign policy experience Obama has? What overseas experience does Obama have - I think he's been to Kenya and Pakistan as a young man. Does Obama really want to get into that? How about his experience in the Indonesian madrassa? Sarah Palin has more management experience than Obama and she would make a better President. Obama never served in the military, never ran a business, and has never governed a city or state. Sorry Obama, "community organizer" just doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 5:45 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I love it, according to the gop hacks here, if you show that mayor mccheese and the moose hunter are lying when, uh, they *are* lying, then you are automatically an obama supporter.

So, to be neutral, reporters must never report when mccain/palin lie. Typical gop bs.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain thinks the women of this country are gullible, shallow and are not smart enough to have opinions on policies. He thinks all we want to see is a woman - any woman - so he went out and found us one. He's got one big disappointing revelation coming.

Posted by: Carol P. | September 13, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

All Sarah Palin needs to do in order to become a foreign policy expert is to take a one week whirlwind tour of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Germany. Obama did this a few months back and it gave him enough foreign policy experience to be Commander in Chief. Just ask the news media - that's all it takes if you are Obama. His one week trip was a profound moment in world affairs. But seriously, can anyone explain exactly what foreign policy experience Obama has? What overseas experience does Obama have - I think he's been to Kenya and Pakistan as a young man. Does Obama really want to get into that? How about his experience in the Indonesian madrassa? Sarah Palin has more management experience than Obama and she would make a better President. Obama never served in the military, never ran a business, and has never governed a city or state. Sorry Obama, "community organizer" just doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Dave | September 13, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

You know, I don't think Harvey, the six-foot rabbit was pink. That just doesn't make sense. More Republican lies?

Posted by: Wilson | September 13, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

"In fact, since it's called "British" Columbia does that mean she's been to Great Britian also?"

It's a threefer. She can claim credit for Canada, Great Britain, and Colombia.

Posted by: castanea | September 13, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

mccain/palin "thanks but no thanks"

Posted by: lynn's therapist | September 13, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

dale trots out the typical gop line: 'prove me wrong but I get to a priori deny your proof.'

It's not working anymore, dale.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Kornblut is at it again. Distorting facts and using innuendo to slime Palin. This woman should just go work for Obama and be done with it.

This isn't journalism, it is Obama campaign propaganda.

Posted by: jd-winterbottom | September 13, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"Equally amazing is the coverage of the Washington Post, almost exclusively written with the bylines intended to draw a negative opinion of McCain and Palin."


A "byline" is the name of the reporter and her position. Are you saying that the words "Anne E. Kornblut" are intended to draw a negative opinion of McCain, or are you just another confused rightwing parrot?

Please, when you hurl an insult, at least get some of the facts right.

Posted by: castanea | September 13, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse


Dan Quail thought they spoke Latin in Latin America and mother fu&ker got elected. We live in such an ignorant country anything can happen. The US has one of the lowest average IQ's in the world among modern countries. Americans are just plain stupid and easily fooled. Ever watch late night TV? These ignorant bas&ers can be sold anything, from how to get a bigger dick, to a presidential candidate.

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I know I'm far more comfortable with Ms. Palin's foreign policy experience knowing that she sipped margaritas in Cancun and went hunting in British Columbia. In fact, since it's called "British" Columbia does that mean she's been to Great Britian also?

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 5:36 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is white, pro-gun and anti-abortion. Nothing else matters to most Evangelicals. Meanwhile, most of the rest of the worlds' Christians are praying for Obama to win.

Posted by: Seala | September 13, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dale: the facts are we cant prove one way or another what he said while in a pow camp in veitnam, surprisingly there werent reporters to put a spin on what he said under torture, no doubt they would.

keep trying liberals NEXT TIME WITHOUT MEDIA ARTICLES PLEASE
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Dale, I don't think most bloggers are trying to disprove what McCain said or did not say during his years as a POW. What does that have to do with what is going on with the ECONOMY, JOBS, IRAQ WAR, etc., today or in the future.

Most of the bloggers are talking about the lies and spin tactics that McCain and his "ROGUE CAMPAIGN MANAGERS" are doing in this 2008 campaign.

For the TRUTH, go to:

http://factcheck.org/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/


Posted by: VA Democrat | September 13, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

The more we find out the less of the truth we know. Bush/McCain have buried the evidence and facts as is their usual maverick custom. McCain has disgraced the Air Force and all true heroes. His behavior during the campaign has been despicable and reprehensible. Shame on the press for not holding him to any standard of decency and allowing his Keating gangsters to manipulate the media. I don't think we will ever see Palin scrutinized to the degree her half truth telling warrants. Her explanation of her controversial positions on abortion, gay rights, guns, etc. do not seem to be so outrageous. What IS so disturbing is her inability to speak honestly to her past actions and comments. She tries to elude the truth by constantly changing versions of what happened and putting controversial comments in a totally different context. She is incapable of being forthright and honest and will never admit to any error in judgement. Once she has created her personal, biased version of events she is no longer rational and reality is beyond her comprehension. She is so much like GWBush it is terrifying.

Posted by: Truth Maverick | September 13, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Reading through the usual propaganda, it begins to feel as if one is trying to argue with Harvey, Elwood P. Dowd's six foot invisible pink bunny, using Dowd as the go-between:

"It's the libtards fault."

"Ask Harvey why it's the "libtard's" fault."

"Libtards don't have common sense. "

Oh.

Posted by: Unique Neocon Stink | September 13, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

"Obama aides described the new revisions to Palin's account as part of a growing pattern of deception."

It looks like you could have prefaced your whole article with this. In fact you could have signed the article: By Anne E. Kornblut, Obama Aide.

Posted by: Charles Harkins | September 13, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

lol you guys are so sucked in by media. you cant even think for yourself.

im asking for ONE PROVEN INSTANCE APART FROM MEDIA THAT MCCAIN LIED.

and you cant even give me a reference to anything other than media for a FACT.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

up, it worked for Hitler. You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs wit "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.
See anything familiar?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Go to H**l, ya little jerks.

Posted by: Straight Talker | September 13, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Cafferty NAILS IT!

I am sick and tired of the president of the United States embarrassing me. The world we live in is too complex to entrust it to someone else whose idea of intellectual curiosity and grasp of foreign policy issues is to tell us he can look into Vladimir Putin's eyes and see into his soul.

George Bush's record as a student, military man, businessman and leader of the free world is one of constant failure. And the part that troubles me most is he seems content with himself.

He will leave office with the country $10 trillion in debt, fighting two wars, our international reputation in shambles, our government cloaked in secrecy and suspicion that his entire presidency has been a litany of broken laws and promises, our citizens' faith in our own country ripped to shreds. Yet Bush goes bumbling along, grinning and spewing moronic one-liners, as though nobody understands what a colossal failure he has been.

I fear to the depth of my being that John McCain is just like him.

Posted by: carl | September 13, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Ha! Treetopflyer: I just want you to know, I spent the afternoon registering Palin/McCain voters. We couldn't find very many; so we went to the mental institution and signed up a lot of them! Then, my supervisor said, maybe if we give people a drink of booze we can get their vote that way. So that's our next strategy. So I'm negating everything you're doing! On to Ohio!

Posted by: registrar | September 13, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I know I'm far more comfortable with Ms. Palin's foreign policy experience knowing that she sipped margaritas in Cancun and went hunting in British Columbia. In fact, since it's called "British" Columbia does that mean she's been to Great Britian also?

Posted by: Scott | September 13, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Where is Mrs. I-told-congress-thanks-but-no-thanks today?

I expect to see at any moment, a hastily assembled podium in storm ravaged Texas where she could once again tell us: I told congress thanks, but no thanks.

Maybe the much traveled Palin needs a road atlas for getting to Texas

Posted by: oh no you di'unt | September 13, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Proof and facts don't matter to the mcainiancs -- they want to support mccain/palin because they feed their supporters' psychological need for nothing that challenges or upsets their preconceived dogma and biases.

When faced with facts and proofs that refute their predetermined dogma, they will close their eyes, plug their ears and shout 'nah-nah-nah.' When shown that their beloved and not to be questioned demigod candidates are lying sacks of excrement, they will lash out the political opposition and whoever dares to deliver the proof of their candidates mendacity and hypocrisy.

The vast majority of them have long ago constructed an impervious emotional and psychological armament that will brook no doubt or dissent from their rigidly lockstep dogma. Most of them are infants in an adult world and scared nearly to paralysis and unable to construct a single original thought.

They are sad and to be pitied but not accommodated in their petulant tantrums and demands that we lower ourselves to their level.

Posted by: jjchicago | September 13, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Treetop flyer's got it absolutely right. I went to an Obama volunteer meeting today in Tyson's Corner, and it was great to see alot of likeminded people who care about the future of our country giving their time. These are the people that will help Obama win this election, and you can help too.

Make yourself an active participant in this election, and affect its outcome. Go out and register voters, preferrably ones that are between the ages of 18 and 35. Google "Obama" and "Virginia" or "Pennsylvania," or wherever you live, and educate yourself on how you an help his campaign.

Fellow Democrats, you CAN make a difference. Believe it.

Posted by: Obama '08 | September 13, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

You saw that republican convention, it looked like a gathering of the Nazi party. Signs with "Country first" and all the speeches in the effect of "You are either with us or you are not real americans or patriots"
Another good quote from the Nazi's that applies to the republicans is:
“…it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. … All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering, founder of the Gestapo and one of the main architects of Nazi Germany.
See anything familiar?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

EEEEEEEEEEEEE GADDDS!!

Sarah Palin is just an outright INSULT to the women of this country!! The only thing her selection did was to call McCain's judgement, mental health and heart health into massive QUESTION!!

What an absolute Train Wreck!

Posted by: jen | September 13, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

CalP asks:
"Is there a penalty to telling and or seeking the truth in this nation?"

Apparently! Ever since OJ walked free from the criminal trial, the right has figured that lies work. They have been lying up a storm since then.

You see, the overwhelming blood evidence, witness accounts, and time-line evidence would convict any person in the world for those crimes. But look what $4 million did for OJ. It bought his freedom.

Money talks, the right wingers have tons of it, and they do not want to give any of it up. This is the straight up truth. I have news for them. God will get his due in the end. You can read all about it in His Word.

Posted by: EarlC | September 13, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Facts are for weenies.

Posted by: John McCain | September 13, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Good question - Is there anything the McCain campaign hasn't lied about--from the number of people in their crowds to the Bridge to Nowhere? Haven't we had enough of leaders who lie?

Posted by: wesfromGA | September 13, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

bud, teh same standards that uphold your glorious media uphold the standards of mccains ads. so if u beleive mccains ads are lies, then you should beleive your media and factcheck are wwrong.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

THE Admiral SON.

In Oct. 26, 1967, the admiral's son while flying his 23rd mission over North Vietnam, once again fell from the sky, this time landing in the hands of a brutal enemy. He was beaten and bayoneted. His shoulder was smashed and his right calf was nearly perpendicular to his knee.
The severely wounded McCain was finally thrown on the back of a truck and hauled to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp. Immediately, his captors began to interrogate him using sadistic methods they had perfected on hundreds of captured U.S. servicemen before him.

His interrogators demanded military information. When he refused, his guards kicked and pounded him mercilessly.
McCain admits that three to four days after he was captured, he promised the Vietnamese, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital."
McCain also admits that the Vietnamese rushed him to a hospital, but denies he was given "special medical treatment" because of his promise.
He claims he was given medical care normally unavailable to captured Americans only because the Vietnamese learned he was the son of Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including those fighting in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese figured that because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank that he was of royalty or the governing circle in the United States. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince"and treated him as a "special prisoner."

Less than two weeks after McCain was taken to a hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting him giving specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, numbers of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight, information about location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place.
There is also evidence that McCain received "special" medical treatment from a Soviet physician.

After he was out of the hospital, McCain continued cooperating with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. He made radio broadcasts for the communists and met with foreign delegations, including the Cubans. He was interviewed by at least two North Vietnamese generals one of whom was Vietnam's national hero, General Vo Nguyen Giap.

On June 4, 1969, a U.S. wire service story headlined "PW Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral," reported one of McCain's radio broadcasts: "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the United States commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.
McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked.

Yet, the same press that transformed the admiral's son into an "incredible war hero--an inspiration to all Americans," vilified the two grunts.
Comparing the incidents surrounding the fates of three POWs,' who collaborated with the enemy, makes one question why two faced possible execution for treason, while the third won acclaim as a hero fit to be President of the United States.
Once more, Lady Luck had smiled on John McCain . . . or was it the admiral?


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

bush, cheney, mccain, and palin are insecure and tout their "power" and "action" as a way of masking that insecurity. We unfortunately have a large number of insecure citizens who latch onto these weak candidates.

Posted by: none | September 13, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

If she can't spell it she won't visit it.

Posted by: jatox | September 13, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

you just proved that liberals base their logic apart from facts, but simply their own arrogance.

no one can prove a republican right more than a liberal.

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Meh.

It's difficult to reason with those unable to understand logic or metaphor.

In the end, the truth wins out, no matter what.

Our truth is a broken economy, and two lost wars, all Republican.

Why has the White House disregarded the advice of even the most intelligent Republicans?

Why so much corruption and lying?

Is Dick Cheney smarter than everyone else?

We either face up to the reality, or we let the country fall, no way around it, smarter people are defeatng the neocons, and their democratic brothers.

I sincerely hope the intelligent prevail, and that isn't the Karl Rove-Dick Cheney Straussian crowd.

The success of the US was not built on the backs of failures like Cheney, Bush, McCain and Obama.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Just wanted to let you know I spent the afternoon registering voters who were pro-Obama. Had a lot of fun. If you're for Obama, get down to your local campaign office and volunteer some time canvassing or working the phones. Let the McCain trolls sit at their keyboards sticking out their tongues - you'll actually be doing something that gets the vote out.

If you can't volunteer some time, print out these two links and pass them on to folks who are concerned about their taxes. Let them know that McCain LIES when he says Obama will raise taxes on everyone, that if you're not in the top 2% you'll pay LESS.

The quick breakdown is at

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1031678,obamamccaintaxplans.article

A more detailed, but not so much as to be boring, look at the two plans

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1031268,CST-NWS-tax30.article


The Sun Times have been no friends of Obama's, and even they're calling McCain a liar.


Obama will be our next president. If you believe in the candidate, then believe in yourselves and your ability to affect the outcome of this race. It's all happening on the ground, outside, not on these forums. Be a part of it, and when Obama's elected on November 4th you'll know you had a role to play.

Posted by: treetopflyer | September 13, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I am a white, female Obama supporter. I voted for Hillary in the primary, but I would no more think of voting for the McCain-Palin ticket than jumping off a bridge (maybe the Bridge to Nowhere?) Very interesting articles can be found by Googling "McCain/Songbird".

Posted by: Dolorosa | September 13, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:24 PM

one again, try to read, that im not interested in articles im interested in facts.

there are actually two other interviews were mccain referenced different football teams, and one interview where he mentioned referencing three different teams during the same interview.

the facts are we cant prove one way or another what he said while in a pow camp in veitnam, surprisingly there werent reporters to put a spin on what he said under torture, no doubt they would.

keep trying liberals NEXT TIME WITHOUT MEDIA ARTICLES PLEASE.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse


JOHN MCCAIN, TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY, COLLABORATOR WITH THE ENEMY, MILITARY DISGRACE.
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
*********** ************* ************** *********** ***********
Activists accused McCain of stonewalling the release of POW records because they contained evidence he had collaborated with the North Vietnamese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk===========
as for McCain's lies, PROVE ONE

without using a media article, without using an assumption by obama or a "Fact check" sight, prove one lie using legitimate hardcore FACTS.

MAKE A CASE. because theres not one democrat willing to start a lawsuit over their lack of information tactics.

however republicans have a case against obama....over his nationality.

talk about being fit to be president.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:11 PM

Dale. Are you saying that comfirmed reports by factcheck or the media aren't good enough. We need to find some other "proof"? Hahaha. I get the joke. (thought you had me, didn't you) You are speaking as a McCain/Palin supporter who refuses to face the facts of a POOR CHOICE.

Posted by: dippa | September 13, 2008 5:26 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Lies, on top of lies, on top of lies. Now it comes out that the crowd of 23,000 they claimed was actually more like 8,000. They said the estimate was given them by the fire Marshall. Seems the fire marshal never told them anything or even made any estimate.

"THEY JUST FU&KIN MADE IT UP"

like everything else about this massive fraud that is being perpetrated on the american people.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

as for McCain's lies, PROVE ONE

without using a media article, without using an assumption by obama or a "Fact check" sight, prove one lie using legitimate hardcore FACTS.

MAKE A CASE. because theres not one democrat willing to start a lawsuit over their lack of information tactics.

however republicans have a case against obama....over his nationality.

talk about being fit to be president.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:11 PM

Dale. Are you saying that comfirmed reports by factcheck or the media aren't good enough. We need to find some other "proof"? Hahaha. I get the joke. (thought you had me, didn't you) You are speaking as a McCain/Palin supporter who refuses to face the facts of a POOR CHOICE.

Posted by: dippa | September 13, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Equally amazing is the coverage of the Washington Post, almost exclusively written with the bylines intended to draw a negative opinion of McCain and Palin. Hidden in the paper is the results of a poll that states what percentage of whites support McCain (racists) but does not mention the reported 90+% of blacks supporting Obama. This article, 'amazingly enough' does not have the Comments section.

Without shame, the Washington Post continues to report in a biased, slanted, and despicable fashion. This area and this nation deserves better from what was once, one of the preminent papers in the world. How far they have fallen.

Posted by: AWWNats | September 13, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

What is going on here? They're taking a page from the Rove/Stalin playbook: The bigger the lie, the easier it is to foist it on the public. Why does the press allow it? With the concentration of corporations, your fourth estate representative likely works for a big business master. GE owns NBC, etc. If you piss off the candidate your master favors, it tends to affect your job security.

Posted by: Karl | September 13, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Okay Dale, who writes: " ...as for McCain's lies, PROVE ONE"

On The View yesterday, McCain clearly stated that Sarah Palin has never sought congressional earmarks.

McCain was pressed on her [Palin's] record of seeking such targeted money for Alaska. "Not as governor she didn't," McCain said.

OOPS!

Want anymore Dale?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:20 PM

i said without using an article from a news source, of course democrats dont read all the facts so i wouldnt expect you to.

keep trying people you have to PROVE one with FACTS.

btw, palin is a governor she cannot request earmarks only funding, senators request earmarks look it up on any site that explains legislation and how its passed.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

How's about this biggie Mr. Dale regarding McCain's time as a POW:

John McCain to a Pittsburgh TV station:

"When I was first interrogated and really had to give some information because of the pressures, physical pressures on me, I named the starting lineup, defensive line of the Pittsburgh Steelers as my squadron mates."

"Did you really?" asked the reporter.

"Yes," McCain said.

"In your POW camp?" asked the reporter.

"Yes," McCain said.

This story is one of the staples of McCain’s POW years – and it has always been the Green Bay Packers whose starting lineup McCain claims to have recited for his captors. In his 1999 book Faith of My Fathers, McCain wrote: "Pressed for more useful information, I gave the names of the Green Bay Packers offensive line, and said they were members of my squadron."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

zqll1 shows that he can cut and paste but he can't give any examples. Typical neo-con. Just brainlessly parrot what someone else says with out even thinking.

Posted by: marcchagall2 | September 13, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Four more years will turn problems of foreclosure and job loss into famiine and disease.

Nov is yet another IQ test. Only this time, if the idiots vote the wrong way they will pay dearly.

Posted by: TW | September 13, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Below is a previous post. As a "veteran" of the military in the Vietnam War era, I salute "Russell" who contributed the post below. I second his sentiments without reservation. I trust that he is telling the truth because I know that the right wing circulate their tear jerking stories which are mostly fabricated. I do sense an air of authenticity.

There is another Vietnam War hero who still lives today. He has never bragged about his POW status even though he was in a POW camp for one of the longest terms, if I remember correctly. His name is Eugene "Red" McDaniel. Red McDaniel is one of the finest Christian men that I have ever known. I do not know his political affiliation, and it does not really matter. He has always been a hero to me. I do know that Jeremiah Denton was one of the longest, if not the longest, to have served in a POW camp.

The repost follows:

I realize that what I say counts for nothing in the Rovian Republican
Party of the Rove/Palin/McCain/Bush/Cheney World, which is what the Republican Party has morphed into. But as an unpatriotic, traitorous, God hating, Church going, volunteer veteran of World War II I feel it is time for me to re-enlist against the true enemies of the the once proud United States of America, The Karl-Rovian-Republican Party, which makes Goebbels Fascist propaganda machine look like a Christian Sunday school pamphlet. I am sick and tired of the Rovian Shtick on the great and only war hero the United States has ever heard of, McCain. To begin with, McCain was doing his duty and was shot down on his 25th or so mission bombing Hanoi.He was captured and tortured, he is alive and well physically. My brother navigated a B17 on a bombing raid from Italy over the German Ploesti, oil fields, shooting gallery, his first and only combat flight. He volunteered for that flight when the original navigator for that flight became ill. My brother was 21 years old. The plane was badly shot up and the crew bailed out over Yugoslavia on the way back. As a result of his injuries he lost some of his cognitive skills as well as some of his motor skills. With a steel plate in his head he literally learned to walk and talk again. He went to college, got an associates degree, got a job, married and he and his wife adopted an infant Vietnamese girl and raised a beautiful daughter. He was a stalwart in the local Catholic Church, as a member of the choir and other duties. He was never a professional, hey look at me I am a hero, veteran, he had a military duty to do and he did it, he had a life to live and he lived it. Which is what separates the men of my, and my brothers generation from the McCains who did their duty but constantly remind everyone day in and day out what a hero they are. Just go to Walter Reed if you want to see some real heroes then go to Iraq and with our GI's, men and women, and with them put on the incomplete protective armor every day and go out on foot patrol in Baghdad and other suicide Bush Iraqi misions. Those are real everyday heroes. Or do what McCain did walk the streets of Bahdad and declare it was as safe as main st USA while being protected by hundreds of those same GI's and helicopter gun ships and fighter planes. Not once, to my knowledge, have I ever heard McCain come to the support those GI's in their battle for proper combat armor or proper care when wounded.

Posted by: russell | September 13, 2008 5:02 PM

Posted by: Earl C | September 13, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

dale===McCain is lying about raising taxes, the NRA is lying about Obama's stand on guns because they want to break the unions, you are lying about his birth records, and you can find all the proof you need at Fight the Smears.com. You Republicans think all you have to do is throw some garbage out there and it is established as fact unless somebody chases you around and presents you with an ironclad proof that you are lying, which you wouldn't look at anyway, even if they had it certified by the Supreme Court. You are an Ignoramus. That is Latin for we don't know. It was the motto of the Know Nothing Party in the early 20th century. They prided themselves on being ignorant.I think you are a throwback.

Posted by: The Real Dale | September 13, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Okay Dale, who writes: " ...as for McCain's lies, PROVE ONE"

On The View yesterday, McCain clearly stated that Sarah Palin has never sought congressional earmarks.

McCain was pressed on her [Palin's] record of seeking such targeted money for Alaska. "Not as governor she didn't," McCain said.

OOPS!

Want anymore Dale?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I like using the web sites below when I want to validate what the candidates did or did not say, or how truthful they are during this campaign.

Both sites are reputable and seem to be non-partisan. I also like comparing the information from these sites against media commentaries.

Then again, any person with common sense, logic, and reason should be able to see the non-sense coming from the EXTREME RIGHT, and therefore; would not need such a web site to validate the truth.

Check them out if you haven't already.

http://factcheck.org/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

Posted by: VA Democrat | September 13, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

This is getting weird.

Has anything the McCain/Palin ticket said in the past two weeks actually been true?

What is going on here?

Posted by: Eric | September 13, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone explain why Repubican candidates love lying so much and why the Republican electorate adores being lied to?

I just can't fathom it.

I also don't understand why the media sidesteps palpable lies and fails to report them as lies. Is there a penalty to telling and or seeking the truth in this nation?

Posted by: Kal P. | September 13, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm John McCain and I approve this message.

Posted by: John | September 13, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

What an incredibly inconsistent news.
You should be in despair.Really.
Go Sarah!

Posted by: Peter | September 13, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Is this a surprise. This is how Rethuglicans operate... by lies and deception. Finally, the media is calling them out on it.

Posted by: David | September 13, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I went to a carnival the other day and in one of the tents was a contortionist. He'd twist himself into knots, bending over backwards so far you'd swear he could stick his head up his arse, generally winding and unwinding himself like a pretzel.

Later, after his shift had ended, I saw him at the shooting gallery where he was trying to knock down tin ducks with a pop gun, and failing miserably.

"How'd you get to be so good at what you do?" I asked him.

"I'm a Republican and support Sarah Palin," he said.

Suddenly it all made sense.

Posted by: castanea | September 13, 2008 5:10 PM

you just proved that liberals base their logic apart from facts, but simply their own arrogance.

no one can prove a republican right more than a liberal.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Another day, more lies from the Republicans. Are the American voters so dumb? Wondering how Rush spins this?

Posted by: ron | September 13, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

as for McCain's lies, PROVE ONE

without using a media article, without using an assumption by obama or a "Fact check" sight, prove one lie using legitimate hardcore FACTS.

MAKE A CASE. because theres not one democrat willing to start a lawsuit over their lack of information tactics.

however republicans have a case against obama....over his nationality.

talk about being fit to be president.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Okay arguments are over. This is the final word. I don't want to see one word after this. This settles it!

Jerry Falwell has just said that he misunderstood God's message a few years ago when God told him to run for president. He relooked at the message and realized God was telling him to get ready for a McCain/Palin presidency.

'nuff said. McCain/Palin '08!

Posted by: Jurist | September 13, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of liars these Republican politicians have been reduced to. The party that gave us Lincoln, Roosevelt, Eisenhower is now reduced to producing likes of Bush and McCain for whom lying is second nature. These leaders show no respect for their party members.

Posted by: RC | September 13, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I went to a carnival the other day and in one of the tents was a contortionist. He'd twist himself into knots, bending over backwards so far you'd swear he could stick his head up his arse, generally winding and unwinding himself like a pretzel.

Later, after his shift had ended, I saw him at the shooting gallery where he was trying to knock down tin ducks with a pop gun, and failing miserably.

"How'd you get to be so good at what you do?" I asked him.

"I'm a Republican and support Sarah Palin," he said.

Suddenly it all made sense.

Posted by: castanea | September 13, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

How high does the spindle have to get before the American people get it? The preponderance of the evidence shows the callous disregard for the truth of the McCain-Palin campaign.

At first, Palin visited Ireland and Iraq. Now we are learning that she only did a refueling stopover in Ireland on a visit to Kuwait. Having been to Kuwait, I know that my passport is stamped. Every country in the Middle East has tight passport restrictions. If she does not pass the passport test, then perhaps there are some eyewitnesses in Iraq.

There is a stench in the McCain campaign that is getting very hard to cover with perfume. (She did not mention "perfume," so I should be safe here.) Folks, lies are lies. When will we ever learn that "it doesn't pay to lie"? Apparently, the Republicans do not believe that adage.

Posted by: Earl C | September 13, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Y’all

By now, everyone knows that I did not really go into Iraq. I know I said I was in an Iraq “battle zone.” Of course, what I really meant was that I was at an Iraq/Kuwait border crossing. I can’t help it if you all can’t hear and follow along. So, sue me!

Plus, I don’t get why everyone wants me to be so darn “accurate” and “truthful” anyway.

You guys have to admit, “battle zone” sounds a lot more cooler and tons more impressive than “border.” Border, well, that just sounds like something you might name your kid!

Anyways, do I have to explain EVERYTHING? Reporters, by the way, all of you pretty much really do suck.

Now, where’s my wee one?.. and where’s your cameraman?

Go USA!! …USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!!

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 13, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

If anyone is wondering about the intelligence of conservatives please read Aspergirl's comments. There are other news networks other than Fox news you know or maybe your trailer park is just located in a county with a bad school system. I don't know anymore.

Posted by: Ryan | September 13, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

The following, including the whole article can be read at the BLACK AGENDA REPORT The journal of African American political thought and action. Issue for September 10-16, 2008 on the web.

"News Flash: Obama Tells Lies
Wednesday, 25 June 2008
by Paul Street

The author has kept a scrupulous record of untruths, half-truths and evolving reconstructions of truth from Barack Obama's mouth, over the years - and there's always a fresh supply to chronicle. It's hard - truly hard - to woo Black and progressive voters while plotting a wholly different agenda with captains of industry and finance and military expansionists. However, Obama's many transgressions against truth don't set him apart. "The American narrow-spectrum corporate-crafted presidential election extravaganza is not about truth-telling - it's about corporate-managed deception."

Obama has been lying for a long time and continues to lie.

Posted by: zqll1 | September 13, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a shameless liar!

No WONDER they have been hiding her! This dumbass is more of a trainwreck than Lindsey Lohan! Way to disgrace yourself, your party and your country McCain!

Posted by: GJ | September 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

FOUR MORE YEARS!

Posted by: Zeromeo | September 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

There are those who keep repeating stuff like this: "The media is in the tank for Obama and they will stop at nothing to smear and demean McCain and Palin."

Reality is a pitbull with lipstick. Isn't it?

Seriously, the reason these people have a hard time believing this is because they refuse to remove their political, polarized, highly-partisan blinders from their face.

In reality, McCain IS lying. His campaign is being Deceptive. His campaign is blurring truth by hyperbole.

You simply cannot ignore this reality, but then again, there are those that do.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Superpants | September 13, 2008 4:52 PM

nothing MORE TO DO to solve it. come on, dont twist my words if your gonna be bi-partisan.

my point is you need 3 things for technological advancement...

1) a boom in the educational market for that specific area of growth ie, you need consistant people to up support and to do the labor of advancing technology. basically if theres only 5 people doing it, it wont get done fast.

2) for technology to advance people require already technological items, for example access to pre-made solar panels to increase efficiency and price for the consumer, these items cost money, and our current disassociation that starting new programs doesnt cost money is downright offensive to me especially. and i wasnt talking about government cutting of science and technology, but the basic educational institutions have to be supporting growth for that industry and they are not.

3)public opinion has to support it for it to be an issue, and right now it just doesnt, the biggest issue is economy, and that directly opposes advancing research costs.

if a democrat cannot run on social program reform, then no one else can propose introducing new programs in a positive light.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

THE PALIN AFFAIR ACCUSATION PALIN CHEATED ON HER HUSBAND?
http://www.theveep.com

THE PALIN DUI?
http://www.duihelpguide.com

Levi Johnson The self Proclaimed Redneck and the Stud who got Sarah Palins Daughter Pregnant.
http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Someday there will be books and movies written about the most transparent, SLEAZY, idiotic political stunt of all time.....

The Republicans will stop at nothing to get their man in office, and if Americans fall for this, then they really are as stupid as the world believes them to be.

Posted by: Jacque | September 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Oh but this is too funny. Mc Cain and Palin are getting caught in lie after lie after lie, and the wingnuts out here are thrashing around and wetting their diapers over it.

Well, tough luck, boys, you've got a couple of real incompetent, corrupt, compulsive liars on the GOP ticket. You can rant all you want about the "liberal media" (an insane argument) but there are still things in this world called facts, and they all show that Palin is a clueless joke.

Give it up, lads. The GOP ticket is George Bush III, and George Bush in a dress. They are exactly what America doesn't need!

Posted by: LH | September 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I realize that what I say counts for nothing in the Rovian Republican
Party of the Rove/Palin/McCain/Bush/Cheney World, which is what the Republican Party has morphed into. But as an unpatriotic, traitorous, God hating, Church going, volunteer veteran of World War II I feel it is time for me to re-enlist against the true enemies of the the once proud United States of America, The Karl-Rovian-Republican Party, which makes Goebbels Fascist propaganda machine look like a Christian Sunday school pamphlet. I am sick and tired of the Rovian Shtick on the great and only war hero the United States has ever heard of, McCain. To begin with, McCain was doing his duty and was shot down on his 25th or so mission bombing Hanoi.He was captured and tortured, he is alive and well physically. My brother navigated a B17 on a bombing raid from Italy over the German Ploesti, oil fields, shooting gallery, his first and only combat flight. He volunteered for that flight when the original navigator for that flight became ill. My brother was 21 years old. The plane was badly shot up and the crew bailed out over Yugoslavia on the way back. As a result of his injuries he lost some of his cognitive skills as well as some of his motor skills. With a steel plate in his head he literally learned to walk and talk again. He went to college, got an associates degree, got a job, married and he and his wife adopted an infant Vietnamese girl and raised a beautiful daughter. He was a stalwart in the local Catholic Church, as a member of the choir and other duties. He was never a professional, hey look at me I am a hero, veteran, he had a military duty to do and he did it, he had a life to live and he lived it. Which is what separates the men of my, and my brothers generation from the McCains who did their duty but constantly remind everyone day in and day out what a hero they are. Just go to Walter Reed if you want to see some real heroes then go to Iraq and with our GI's, men and women, and with them put on the incomplete protective armor every day and go out on foot patrol in Baghdad and other suicide Bush Iraqi misions. Those are real everyday heroes. Or do what McCain did walk the streets of Bahdad and declare it was as safe as main st USA while being protected by hundreds of those same GI's and helicopter gun ships and fighter planes. Not once, to my knowledge, have I ever heard McCain come to the support those GI's in their battle for proper combat armor or proper care when wounded.

Posted by: russell | September 13, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Oh but this is too funny! Mc Cain and Palin are getting caught in lie after lie after lie, and the wingnuts out here are thrashing around and wetting their diapers over it.

Well, tough luck, boys, you've got a couple of real incompetent, corrupt, compulsive liars on the GOP ticket. You can rant all you want about the "liberal media" (an insane argument) but there are still things in this world called facts, and they all show that Palin is a clueless joke.

Give it up, lads. The GOP ticket is George Bush III, and George Bush in a dress. They are exactly what America doesn't need!

Posted by: LH | September 13, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah! Ditto! This is nothing more than a leftist lie. In fact anything I hear that's critical of my candidate is nothing more than a leftist lie. Those leftists! I really hate them. They say hope. I say zero tolerance. They say change. I say let's continue to concentrate the wealth. They say Obama/Biden. I say Palin! Palin! Palin! Palin! Palin! Palin! And while I'm saying it, I hold my hands over my ears to help me concentrate.

Posted by: Charla | September 13, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama will be the next president of the United States.

Posted by: C. Hernandez | September 13, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

NO WOMAN with half a brain in her head who understands WHAT Sarah Palin believes in, would EVER VOTE FOR HER!!


Sure, we would love to see a woman in the Whitehouse...A QUALIFIED, EXPERIENCED, RESPECTED WORLD LEADER--

Sarah Palin might be qualified to host the Jerry Springer show, but that is about it!

Posted by: Lori | September 13, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Y’all

By now, everyone knows that I did not really go into Iraq. I know I said I was in an Iraq “battle zone.” Of course, what I really meant was that I was at an Iraq/Kuwait border crossing. I can’t help it if you all can’t hear and follow along. So, sue me!

Plus, I don’t get why everyone wants me to be so darn “accurate” and “truthful” anyway.

You guys have to admit, “battle zone” sounds a lot more cooler and tons more impressive than “border.” Border, well, that just sounds like something you might name your kid!

Anyways, do I have to explain EVERYTHING? Reporters, by the way, all of you pretty much really do suck.

Now, where’s my wee one?.. and where’s your cameraman?

Go USA!! …USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!!

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 13, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

All these Obama haters don't have any arguments for really voting for McCain / Palin....just insults back and forth. Facts are facts....and there is no discussion on what if anything George Bush-McCain will do any different for the next four years. Oh yeah...we can't insult him...he's a war hero...my ass he is just another Bush trying to scare and lie his way into the White House. Pathetic Republicans...

Posted by: St Pete | September 13, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Having a woman as a Vice Presidental running mate was a stoke of genius by the McCain campaign. American women has a candiate they can identify with. She may not have all the political and foreign policy answers that American men may want but she gives American women want: The first American woman with real even though symbolic power. This could be a strong pull American women may not to be able to resist, regardless of her politics.

Mrs. Palin could win McCain the election. All she has to do is a week before the election is go on TV with her youngest child in her arms. All she needs to say is "John McCain will keep America safe." What more powerful message will American women need.

Posted by: H Douglas Walker | September 13, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the republicans have made McCain the bottom of the ticket and Palin the top of the ticket. Their bumper stickers should read Palin/McCain. Anyway, when Tucker Bounds said they were going to take the campaign one day at a time I didn't know they meant even the facts. Wow, can you believe this is what McCain has become, he didn't even know enough about Palin to know about her earmarks, ideas on polar bears, wolf hunting, and so on. It really was a shotgun wedding.

Posted by: Tina | September 13, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how those same bloggers that would die for George Bush, even knowing all the BS, lies, corruption, crimes and all else that defines the Bush administration, are doing the same with Palin, a complete unknown?

Can you imagine the barrage of manure that would be waterfalling here if the dem party picked someone no one had heard of before? It would be off the chain!

Sick Puppies. If only they knew what they were defending.

This woman could be under indictment for murder, bribery, extortion or anything else, these sick puppies would still drag their bare butts over 8 miles of broken glass just to hear her repeat the conventon speech, for the millionth time, screaming "Sarah, Sarah!".

Speakng of which, I'm a bt surprised there isn't a microphone and podium somewhere in storm ravaged Texas set up where she could proclaim the "I told the congress thanks but no thanks..." lie.

Posted by: whatever | September 13, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

_________________________________________--

you do realize thats exactly teh same arguement for having foreign diplomacy in america? because they are in close proximity, because they could affect us, we should give a damn about them.

sarah palin is 100% right in trying to explain to gibson that a close proximity IS A BIG ISSUE in having to face diplomacy at times.

what happens when a citizen of america from alaska goes into canada and sets off a bomb? into russia?

she has to face these things because of proximity in the same way a president would. you have no validity to your arguements and its stupid to claim you do.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Now, I'd never suggest that Sarah Palin didn't actually graduate from the University of Idaho, and yet, given her propensity for ... what's it called?

Oh, yes: Lying.

Given her propensity for lying about her past, it'd be reassuring to the American electorate if she produced her diploma and transcripts, so that no ill-conceived rumors start circulating.

She can dispel doubt by showing us that, despite the fact she lied about her travels, and despite the fact that she thinks she has foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia, and despite the fact that she lied about the bridge to nowhere, and despite the fact that, yes, she was stumped by the Bush doctrine question, and despite the fact that she changed colleges five times in six years, at least she carried a 4.0--though I'd settle for a 3.5--and was a decent student.

The sad thing for McCain is that he once was an honorable man and as such might have won the presidency in 2000 if he'd stood up to Bush's dirty tactics. He could have picked any number of capable Republican women who have proven track records and who had been vetted by the public years ago.

Yet he chose a radical theocon who lies.

Posted by: castanea | September 13, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

So long as Sarah Palin SAW Iraq, that satisfies me, much as I am satisfied by the possibility that one can SEE Russia from Alaska, thereby giving its governor sufficient foreign policy experience to face down Putin ANYTIME!

Posted by: asecularcom | September 13, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

David -

The story isn't that she didn't visit Iraq. The story is that it is just one more example of the McCain/Palin campaign's compulsive lying. Of all the similarities between Bush and McCain, the is one of the most troubling.

Posted by: Bradley | September 13, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

This is nothing more than a leftist lie. No smear is too slimy and no lie is too big for the mainstream propaganda media in this country. The media is in the tank for Obama and they will stop at nothing to smear and demean McCain and Palin. Don't let them get away with it . . . keep up the fight at all costs.

Posted by: rplat | September 13, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Dale, I'm not trying to be snippy or partisan, but I'm having a very hard time understanding what you wrote.

you wrote:
"its ironic you say that when the leading economists state that we need to get OFF of consumer mentality (which is required for technological advancement as we must obtain cheaper technologies in order to expand them)."

How is getting off of consumer mentality required for tech. advancement?


You also state:
"less and less people are finding science to be a valid career"

Ya, congress has dissolved tons of scientific research. That's why we are not smashing photons in the US, but sitting on our hands while it's done at the LHC.

Next:
"unless theres a direction to go in then the industrial boom we experienced during the revolution cant be expected.

global warming isnt a direct enough problem because we really have nothing more to do to solve it, we have the technology to solve it but simply lack the resolve and the investment ideology."

We has the internet boom and what do you mean that there is nothing we can do to solve it. Nuke's work without generating CO2. Heck, some Australians have developed a device that can suck CO2 out of the are and create O2 (breathable oxygen) and C3(diamonds). It uses a ton of energy in the process, but don't tell me it's not possible.

check out germanys energy policies and how they became relatively independant.

Posted by: Superpants | September 13, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

It is a real hoot to read posts from Republicans faking outrage over critical reports of Palin. Goodness, the Democrats are just finally defending themselves against the Republican thugs who have developed character assassination into an art. In this case, Sarah and John have been caught in a lie. There is a difference between being in Kuwait and being in Iraq; Palin should ask members of the Alaska Guard about that. This is on par with her claiming looking across the Bearing Sea from a desolate pile of rocks to another desolate pile of rocks makes her an expert on Russia. Also, a fueling stop in Ireland counts as a visit? Again, McCain was faking indignation regarding the press questioning her lack of foreign travel. Republicans have the nerve to object to what is essentially verification of this fact when they jiggled with glee when Ann Coulter said max Cleland ws responsible for the loss of three of his limbs because he was clumsy, when, in fact, he was trying to get a live grenade that had been dropped by a young soldier out of a helicopter, an heroic act. Republicans have no grounds to claim to be innocent victims. Pretending to be outraged is their trick to diverting attention from the truth; she is not ready to lead in international affairs.

Posted by: ChuckB | September 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

What is the story here?

As to foreign travel, whether Palin or Obama traveled a lot as a tourist does not matter. Sitting on the Love Boat in the Carribean or shopping in Paris or Tokyo does not translate into experience to be President. If world travel is important we should pick a President from visiting line to see the White House.

Posted by: David | September 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

Given that physically seeing a country is now evidence of "foreign policy experience", someone should ask Palin -- has she actually ever seen Russia? Has she visited that random, remote, frozen wasteland of an island in the middle of the Bering Strait and actually seen Russia?

Posted by: Langx | September 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Y'all

Like the guy below says. I just made a mistake! All I said was I was in a Iraq "battle zone." You know, what I was really saying was that I was at an Iraq/Kuwait border crossing. I can't help it if you all can't hear and follow along. So, sue me!

Plus, I don't get why everyone wants me to be so darn "accurate" and "truthful" anyway.

You guys have to admit, "battle zone" sounds a lot more cooler and tons more impressive than "border." Border, well, that just sounds like something you might name your kid!

Anyways, do I have to explain EVERYTHING? Reporters, by the way, all of you pretty much really do suck.

Now, where's my wee one?.. and where's your cameraman?

Go USA!! ...USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!!

-SP
-------
Big f-ing deal. So the campaign made a mistake. Obama and Biden have made plenty of their own. Is this some tremendous scoop Anne? All it proves is that you read the Boston Globe. I can't believe you actually draw a salary for this amazing journalism.

Posted by: NickinVA | September 13, 2008 4:29 PM

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

---IS JOHN MCCAIN JUST ANOTHER GEORGE W. BUSH?!!.....(More than we EVER KNEW)----


NEW YORK (CNN) -- Russia invades Georgia and President Bush goes on vacation. Our president has spent one-third of his entire two terms in office either at Camp David, Maryland, or at Crawford, Texas, on vacation.

His time away from the Oval Office included the month leading up to 9/11, when there were signs Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America, and the time Hurricane Katrina destroyed the city of New Orleans.

Sen. John McCain takes weekends off and limits his campaign events to one a day. He made an exception for the religious forum on Saturday at Saddleback Church in Southern California.

I think he made a big mistake. When he was invited last spring to attend a discussion of the role of faith in his life with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, McCain didn't bother to show up. Now I know why.

It occurs to me that John McCain is as intellectually shallow as our current president. When asked what his Christian faith means to him, his answer was a one-liner. "It means I'm saved and forgiven." Great scholars have wrestled with the meaning of faith for centuries. McCain then retold a story we've all heard a hundred times about a guard in Vietnam drawing a cross in the sand.

Asked about his greatest moral failure, he cited his first marriage, which ended in divorce. While saying it was his greatest moral failing, he offered nothing in the way of explanation. Why not?

Throughout the evening, McCain chose to recite portions of his stump speech as answers to the questions he was being asked. Why? He has lived 71 years. Surely he has some thoughts on what it all means that go beyond canned answers culled from the same speech he delivers every day.

He was asked "if evil exists." His response was to repeat for the umpteenth time that Osama bin Laden is a bad man and he will pursue him to "the gates of hell." That was it.

He was asked to define rich. After trying to dodge the question -- his wife is worth a reported $100 million -- he finally said he thought an income of $5 million was rich.

One after another, McCain's answers were shallow, simplistic, and trite. He showed the same intellectual curiosity that George Bush has -- virtually none.

Where are John McCain's writings exploring the vexing moral issues of our time? Where are his position papers setting forth his careful consideration of foreign policy, the welfare state, education, America's moral responsibility in the world, etc., etc., etc.?

John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis. His father and grandfather were four star admirals in the Navy. Some have suggested that might have played a role in McCain being admitted. His academic record was awful. And it shows over and over again whenever McCain is called upon to think on his feet.

He no longer allows reporters unfettered access to him aboard the "Straight Talk Express" for a reason. He simply makes too many mistakes. Unless he's reciting talking points or reading from notes or a TelePrompTer, John McCain is lost. He can drop bon mots at a bowling alley or diner -- short glib responses that get a chuckle, but beyond that McCain gets in over his head very quickly.

I am sick and tired of the president of the United States embarrassing me. The world we live in is too complex to entrust it to someone else whose idea of intellectual curiosity and grasp of foreign policy issues is to tell us he can look into Vladimir Putin's eyes and see into his soul.

George Bush's record as a student, military man, businessman and leader of the free world is one of constant failure. And the part that troubles me most is he seems content with himself.

He will leave office with the country $10 trillion in debt, fighting two wars, our international reputation in shambles, our government cloaked in secrecy and suspicion that his entire presidency has been a litany of broken laws and promises, our citizens' faith in our own country ripped to shreds. Yet Bush goes bumbling along, grinning and spewing moronic one-liners, as though nobody understands what a colossal failure he has been.

I fear to the depth of my being that John McCain is just like him.

Posted by: John | September 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

if you dont vote for obama
you are a racist...
that will not work, anne'
'judge a man by the content
of his character, not
the color of his skin '

nobama08!

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

hey anne (not anne woodward and not anne bernstein) kornblut

I hope you didn't buy a new pair of shoes to wear to your Pulitzer Award Ceremony for this firecracker non-story of yours, because there's less chance of you getting one than there is of pobama getting elected. In other words, the big goose egg.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Clinton's War Room had the sign "It's The Economy, Stupid!"

McCain's War Room has one paraphrasing Mencken "Nobody ever Lost an Election Underestimating the Intelligence of the American Voter!"

Give McCain credit for being smart enough to hire the people who slandered and libeled him for Bush in 2000.

Give Palin credit for being dumb enough to believe that she's actually qualified to be VP, without giving it a second thought.

Posted by: Fairfax | September 13, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

USA3, don't worry! Let me get you your coloring book and crayons so you can work with something you CAN understand.

Posted by: Dean | September 13, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"Yeah...Big EFFING deal, so the campaign made a mistake"...HAAAAAAA

Uhhh, yeah buddy-- you got THAT RIGHT! They made a big mistake in selecting this absolutely mindless TWIT to run for the second highest office in the land.

They made a BIG MISTAKE putting the welfare of this country and its citizens into such incompetent, completely unqualified hands....

They made a big mistake in thinking they could distract Americans from the Republican record---


Posted by: cal | September 13, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

If it isn't clear to you yet, it soon will be. John McCain is just a puppet (willing yes, but still just an agent) of the GOP pigs that have been feeding at the public trough for 8 fattening years. They won't let their big fat heads be pushed out without a fight. If it means lying every day about everything...well, if people are buying that swill they can stay right where they are.

Posted by: Call me Starbucks | September 13, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I'd do her

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

*** McCain/Palin 2008 ***

Supply Side Jesus wants the LIARS to win big in November.

Go GOP!

Finish what Bush started!!!!

Posted by: Knutton | September 13, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Josh Reinhuld | September 13, 2008 4:38 PM

you are the definition of blind liberal moron not once did she claim it was illegal, but instead that there was an undivided mentality that we were to be boycotting American tourism to Pakistan.

not supporting their economy because they are having diplomacy issues?

its kinda like wearing a pin to show your patriotism, or kneeling and setting a rose in the rememberance pool instead of tossing it in because you have no respect for the dead.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Simonsays1: That's pretty neat! I never knew that white supremacist camps and the KKK even HAD Little League baseball!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse


THIS JUST IN:

Sarah Palin now claiming that a part-time job she once held as a waitress will give her the experience she needs to serve the American people.

Posted by: chasemonster | September 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Dean,
you lost me
at "I think......."
concise,
to the point.
you all look like
moose in the cross hairs'
NOBAMA08!

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Wait a sec here! I'm seeing comments by women who are making negative comments about President Palin. Whoa nellie! They must be men in disguise. That's just dishonest! And I'll bet Ann Kornblut is a man too. What about the sisterhood of the traveling pants suits?! PRESIDENT PALIN IS A WOMAN! HOW CAN YOU CRITICIZE HER? WE HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER. WE HAVE TO GET HER OVER US CAUSE SHE'S ONE OF US!!!

Posted by: Cassie | September 13, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I think that we all should be noting a troubling pattern that seems to be emerging with the McCain-Palin campaign, which really is a reflection of what sort of administration they would have. They pad their press releases to make it sound like McCain and Palin have done things they haven't, like claiming Palin went to Iraq when she hadn't...they pad their numbers for their events attendance (trying to look like the celebrities they've slammed on the Dem side who DO draw crowds?) and try to attribute the numbers to agencies who didn't count people...they've tried to play 'holier-than-thou' on budget earmarks, then Palin the Earmark Queen tries to say that getting them via HER lobbyist is OK and that the 'Bridge to Nowhere' earmark she wanted was terrible--but SHE KEPT THE MONEY...McCain claims to want 'nicer politics', but HE hit first, hit hardest, and hit lowest below the belt...McCain says he wants to change the politics in Washington, but he's always one of the first politicians who fails to compromise, then he throws another temper tantrum.

And I want to people to note that just like the Bush Administration and Tom DeLay, McCain-Palin is trying to paint an investigation into Palin's conduct in office as a Democratic-led witch hunt...too bad that Alaska's legislature is dominated by the GOP, so that doesn't wash. IF PALIN AND HER UN-ELECTED HUSBAND HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, THEY SHOULD COOPERATE *NOW* AND SHOW IT. Troopergate smells to high heaven, and I think McCain-Palin is scared that Mistress Palin will be exposed for the phony and corrupt and petty person she really is, before the election. And if McCain either couldn't figure this out or chose to ignore it when he made this critical decision of picking a running mate, then he has demonstrated that he does NOT have the judgement or experience to be president of the United States.

Posted by: Dean | September 13, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

But...I could SEE EYE WRAAACK from the border!! It was right across the border!!

Doesnt that count as foreign experience?

Posted by: SARAH PALIN | September 13, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Anonymous |
the next Indonesian
President of the united
states of the world.
when I was playing
little league baseball,
in america,
he was an Indonesian
school boy.
that does not impress me,
I think an american should
run america.
I'm old fashioned
and funny, that way.
NOBAMA08!

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Big f-ing deal. So the campaign made a mistake. Obama and Biden have made plenty of their own. Is this some tremendous scoop Anne? All it proves is that you read the Boston Globe. I can't believe you actually draw a salary for this amazing journalism.

Posted by: NickinVA | September 13, 2008 4:29 PM

you know, liberals, they are those girls you dated in high school who broke up with you because you said their friend was fat when she weighs 300 pounds in 8th grade.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Damn Aspercream you is as dumb as Palin!

"Why don't you cover Barack Obama's trip to Pakistan using an Indonesian passport at age 20 when Americans weren't supposed to be traveling there"

The State Department issues regulations regarding where American citizens may travel. The State Department has NEVER prohibited Americans from entering Pakistan (unlike Cuba).

"Why was he traveling to Pakistan when it was tough for Americans to justify travel there?"

Ok which is it Aspergurl, "weren't supposed to" or "tough to justify travel there" The test is whether it is ILLEGAL under federal law to travel there, which it is not.

"Why was he using an Indonesian passport if he's an American citizen?"

This displays your lack of foreign travel knowledge. Many people carry dual citizenship. It is NOT ILLEGAL under federal law to do so. Sometimes for security purposes it is better to enter a country like Burma with a non-US passport (even if you have a US passport). Not sure about you, but I'm not going to let my nationality determine which cultures I can and cannot learn about.


"Is he a dual citizen or not? If so, is he not barred constitutionally from serving in the Office of President because he doesn't have undivided loyalties?"

NO and NO. "undivided loyalties" is NEVER mentioned in the Constitution. Actually, have you ever READ the Constitution?

"Why has the press still not vetted the matter of Barack Obama's confused international citizenship?"

Because it's a non-issue. That's why.

"How can you continue to ignore the serious questions about Barack Obama? I mean, it's one thing to ignore vetting his background."

So is vetting his background a serious issue or not? Come on little girl, you are confused.

"There should be a law against how you are covering the election."

Oh, I thought we were all gung-ho about Constitutional "undivided loyalties". Now you wanna be disloyal to the First Amendment?

"There should be a law that identifies a news outlet and a reporter as supporting a campaign if their coverage meets certain criteria."

Oh and who determines the criteria? Content-based regulations on speech RARELY pass muster with the Supreme Court.


"Then, all their posts, articles and photographs have to bear an appropriate label that identifies them as supporting that campaign."

You mean like when evangelical churches support a republican candidate from the pulpit? I agree and they should lose their tax-exempt status. But doh! Newspapers are in it for profit and DO pay taxes!

Now back to playing with your dolls, aspergirl.

Posted by: Josh Reinhuld | September 13, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

First I got a lobotomy and then I registered as a Republican so I could blame other people for my life failure.

Posted by: USA3 | | September 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Seriously folks.

I dont care whether you are an independent, republican, or democrat...this just isnt funny anymore. I don't care how much you happen to LIKE Sarah, or that naughty librarian thang' she has workin'...She IS NOT VP MATERIAL, and we all know it.

After 8 years of ruinous policy and George W. Bush, don't we think we finally deserve a president that is respected, experienced, well-traveled, well-educated and able to somehow dig us out of the enormous hole we are now in??

Our country has never been in worse shape financially, and we need to come to grips. John McCain is an old man, who admits not knowing much about economic matters, and having his party select Palin at the last minute for him, was hands down the MOST RECKLESS, INSANE decision he has ever made.

Lets take off our Republican hats and Democrat hats, and do what is right for our country. I was never a huge Obama fan, but I have come to respect him more and more each day. He and Biden are our only hope.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Chinaman for president


I promise every citizen will have a couch and unlimited supply of potato chip. Here are my solutions to all our problems.

Federal deficit. No more foreign invasion like Iraq. Enough billions will be saved to fulfill my above promise for many generations!

Trade deficit. Sell every missile, atomic bomb and carrier to China as we do not need them any more. Make the Chinese promise not to use them against us, or we can change the GPS to reroute all the missiles back to Beijing.

Human rights. No gun for our citizens. If that Chinese had an AK 45 in the Beijing Olympic incidence, imagine how many would be killed. Learn from the human right lovers.

Illegal immigrants. When caught, send them to Alaska for the hardest labor on earth. I bet even the dumbest Mexican will not come here illegally. Problem solved. The nice guy I pay pennies to clean up my yard is the only exception.

Education. Just import some smart, young, educated Chinese that they have plenty to spare. Why spend billions to produce mediocre college graduates who cannot count from 1 to 12 (unless they have 12 fingers)?

Social welfare. All cheaters including all politicians will be sent to China for re-education, so they will be more productive.

This message is paid by your friendly Chinese government, who wants you buy more couches and potato chips.

Posted by: TonyP4 | September 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

She migh as well claim all the countries she flew over on her "Trip of a Lifetime". So far, it seems she did not visit 50% of the countries on that trip. I am sure that this conscious deception will be decried as "no big deal" by the neo-naz... I mean neo-cons

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin sort of visited Iraq. She probably thinks (like Russia) that she can see it from the highest peak in Alaska, that's comparable to visiting the country. Maybe she can still submit expense accounts to reimburse herself for those visits to Iraq that she really didn't take. If you click your heels together 3 times almost anything can come true, right?

Posted by: sandra Johansen | September 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, Palin is over her head. The neocon lies are catching up with them through her. Int that sense, she is doing the country a great service.

Given time she will self-destruct, and hopefully take the neocons with her. They've screwed up our country for 8 years now, and I cannot imagine any serious patriots voting to continue this debacle.

Posted by: michael4 | September 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I bet O Bomb US has never been to the moon, Iran, MArs, What does it really matter. Sarah HAs been alive and Knows what everyone knows about Iraq......O please dont Bomb US HAs nothing to stand on either! Anw what is a MCbiden... a new burger from Mickey D's?

Posted by: Slapshot46 | September 13, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin sort of visited Iraq. She probably thinks (like Russia) that she can see it from the highest peak in Alaska, that's comparable to visiting the country. Maybe she can still submit expense accounts to reimburse herself for those visits to Iraq that she really didn't take. If you click your heels together 3 times almost anything can come true, right?

Posted by: sandra Johansen | September 13, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Yes, and it'll probably also come out that her second cousin is Sgt. Preston ("On, you huskies!") of the Yukon.

Oh, wait. The Yukon is part of Canada.

She's really shot from guns.

Posted by: jm917 | September 13, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

its ironic you say that, because obama's economic plan is identicle to bushes last 2 years in teh whitehouse, and it was started by a democrat (clinton).

but feel free to stick with your ignorance, being a republican i rely on truth and myself. so whether you libtards elect obamessiah, i wont be affected by your economical nonsense.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:23 PM
------------------------------------------

That's cute dale, so you rely on the "truth" do ya? Let me guess, the best way to find the truth is to follow a couple of liars. Sage advice. Sage advice.

Life hasn't been treating you very well has it dale?

Posted by: High earning dem who's sick of his tax dollars going to red state mooches | September 13, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

it will never get back to obama/ mccain,
obama is a shadow compared to palin;
He is 47 years old,
and has less experience then
the average journeyman
electrician.
I didnt mean to cut down
electricians, sorry.
Nobama08

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Damn Aspercream you is as dumb as Palin!

"Why don't you cover Barack Obama's trip to Pakistan using an Indonesian passport at age 20 when Americans weren't supposed to be traveling there"

The State Department issues regulations regarding where American citizens may travel. The State Department has NEVER prohibited Americans from entering Pakistan (unlike Cuba).

"Why was he traveling to Pakistan when it was tough for Americans to justify travel there?"

Ok which is it Aspergurl, "weren't supposed to" or "tough to justify travel there" The test is whether it is ILLEGAL under federal law to travel there, which it is not.

"Why was he using an Indonesian passport if he's an American citizen?"

This displays your lack of foreign travel knowledge. Many people carry dual citizenships. It is NOT ILLEGAL under federal law to do so. Sometimes for security purposes it is better to enter a country like Burma with a non-US passport (even if you have a US passport). Not sure about you, but I'm not going to let my nationality determine which cultures I can and cannot learn about.


"Is he a dual citizen or not? If so, is he not barred constitutionally from serving in the Office of President because he doesn't have undivided loyalties?"

NO and NO. "undivided loyalties" is NEVER mentioned in the Constitution. Actually, have you ever READ the Constitution?

"Why has the press still not vetted the matter of Barack Obama's confused international citizenship?"

Because it's a non-issue. That's why.

"How can you continue to ignore the serious questions about Barack Obama? I mean, it's one thing to ignore vetting his background."

So is vetting his background a serious issue or not? Come on little girl, you are confused.

"There should be a law against how you are covering the election."

Oh, I thought we were all gung-ho about Constitutional "undivided loyalties". Now you wanna be disloyal to the First Amendment?

"There should be a law that identifies a news outlet and a reporter as supporting a campaign if their coverage meets certain criteria."

Oh and who determines the criteria? Content-based regulations on speech RARELY pass muster with the Supreme Court.


"Then, all their posts, articles and photographs have to bear an appropriate label that identifies them as supporting that campaign."

You mean like when evangelical churches support a republican candidate from the pulpit? I agree and they should lose their tax-exempt status. But doh! Newspapers are in it for profit and DO pay taxes!

Now back to playing with your dolls, aspergirl.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Superpants | September 13, 2008 4:24 PM

its ironic you say that when the leading economists state that we need to get OFF of consumer mentality (which is required for technological advancement as we must obtain cheaper technologies in order to expand them).

its a good idea, but 1) less and less people are finding science to be a valid career and 2) unless theres a direction to go in then the industrial boom we experienced during the revolution cant be expected.

global warming isnt a direct enough problem because we really have nothing more to do to solve it, we have the technology to solve it but simply lack the resolve and the investment ideology.

check out germanys energy policies and how they became relatively independant.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

It is a sign of faith in the unscrupulous when you believe anything the McCain campaign says. It is a sign that Palin's record is so thin that John McCain has to embellish a fuel stop into a visit. The choice of Palin is a reflection of the misjudgment of McCain, just like the misjudgment on Iraq. It never was and still is not in our strategic interest to be fighting there.

The McCain lies and then blames the media for catching him. If that does not remind you of Bush's terms of lying and incompetence, then you have no concern for the truth or you are easily confused on facts like McCain.

Posted by: Geo T R | September 13, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

STeve Schmidt, Steve Schmidt, Steve Schmidt!

He's a lying you know what and he's running this for McCain.

He has a history of dirty tricks that make the Watergate boys look like a scout troup.

His last public quote, "No more nice Steve." Even that is a lie, because there never was a nice Steve.


Posted by: alex | September 13, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain is toast. Any American who votes for that ticket is uniformed and gullible.

Things don't look good on Troopergate either. I suppose Republicans think it's ok to use one's political position to settle a personal vendetta. Oh, and do the Republicans think it's ok for Palin's husband to have had access to and be copied on official Alaska Governmental matters when he was NOT an employee of the State of Alaska? That is an ethical violation too. So, would you be ok if Mr. Palin gets top secret information from Mrs. Palin as VP? In fact she gets briefings of top secret matters now. Should her husband be briefed too?

Honestly, what the heck was McCain thinking when he picked this lying clueless spokesmodel? He was betting on the ignorant masses missing the point and overlooking the lies. Don't be fooled folks. This is not politics as usual. This is lying beyond belief.

Posted by: Jane | September 13, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I am a Palin/McCain supporter and I don't understand when people criticize my candidates. I'm serious. When people say negative things about my candidates, it's just like that noise Snoopy hears when humans talk. Just blather, jibberish screetching. What are you people saying? Why are your mouths moving? Is something wrong with me?

Posted by: Concerned Republican | September 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

She is as crooked as the worst of the political bums.

Posted by: Agnostic Leo | September 13, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Big f-ing deal. So the campaign made a mistake. Obama and Biden have made plenty of their own. Is this some tremendous scoop Anne? All it proves is that you read the Boston Globe. I can't believe you actually draw a salary for this amazing journalism.

Posted by: NickinVA | September 13, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin can come out with horns and declare herself satan and the right wing nut jobs will spin it to make it something positive. There really is no hope for the conservatives being convinced that their party are bunch of crooks. I just hope the Independents have enough sense to keep this country from going further down. We're faced with critical and dire problems in this country. Please vote Democrat....just look at the history of when Democrats were in power. For the most part we were very strong and stable. We need that back. Vote for issues, this is not American Idol popularity contest for God's sake.

Posted by: Ryan | September 13, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

She certainly doesn't exaggerate any more than Obama's VP running mate, who recently invented a long winded tall tale about his educational background, which was quickly verifie as being way off base.

Posted by: Johhny Walker | September 13, 2008 4:15 PM
-------------------------------------------
Johhny Walker -- lay off the alcohol and gain mental control of the magnitude of your hero's deception.

See unlike Biden, Palin chose to anchor her candidacy on this reformist mantra. Only problem is that her one asset (cause it ain't a list of compelling policy prescriptions, or experience, or an ability to unite the world -- let me guess my last example probably rubs you wrong --). No Palin's big asset was that she didn't support that bridge to no where, or earmarks or lobbyist influence (all of which appear to have been lies:-( ) and now it seems like the deception keeps on coming!!!!!!

Question for you, how can we expect these two to fulfill their campaign promises when the campaign has been built on a big pile of lies??

And no, don't bring Clinton into this. He lied about the affair, not his qualifications. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The Associated Press is now reporting that the McCain Campaign is standing by their story that Governor Palin DID go to Iraq, had to dodge numerous attacks on her convoy and, when she finally shot her way into Baghdad there were 2.5 million Iraqis there to meet her.

Seriously.

I wouldn't lie.

Posted by: Small Typo | September 13, 2008 1:58 PM
-----------------------
AND I BELIEVE THE 2.5 MILLION HAD FLOWERS AND WELCOMED HER AS A LIBERATOR!!

Posted by: michael4 | September 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

its ironic you say that, because obama's economic plan is identicle to bushes last 2 years in teh whitehouse, and it was started by a democrat (clinton).

but feel free to stick with your ignorance, being a republican i rely on truth and myself. so whether you libtards elect obamessiah, i wont be affected by your economical nonsense.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:23 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm John McCain and I don't know very much about the economy, but I love it when dale gives me a Hot Karl.

RepubliCONs don't have anything except a retired old geezer and eye candy!

And you call us retarded.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Keep clucking chickenhawk!

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Kathy Green

Doesn't matter if you want it, it'll be here in about 7 weeks. Get used to it.

Or don't.

You're basically irrelevant, anyway, because you'll obviously be voting for pobama.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Is it possible that McCain isn't lying - that this is indicative of the onset of senile dementia?

Just wondering.

Posted by: Well... | September 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Watch Out. This is just a set up.

Palin has tremendous foreign policy experience, some of which she concealed but plans to release as an October surprise. So, you heard it hear first.

Palin, you will recall, said that her Russian experience came from looking at those Russies from across the Berring Straight.

But, what she didn't tell you--and this is the secret--she also looked across the Canadian border from Alaska. She has a deep understanding of those Canadian enemies to the North.

Sarah Palin--Protector of the Northern Frontier.

Posted by: Bill | September 13, 2008 2:43 PM
_______________

AHAHAHAHA good one Bill! That was awesome!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

wildlife management
is above your pay grade, maam.
go bake some cookies
and shut up.

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Is it possible that McCain isn't lying - that this is indicative of the onset of senile dementia?

Just wondering.

Posted by: Huh? | September 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin is not ready, tho many will never acknowledge it. There has to be a serious debate.

Posted by: bloominbj | September 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who signs on to shooting wolves from a helicopter is an absolute jerk. Talk about cowardly. Honestly. I think her support for that particularly ugly bit of Bush administration legislation says scads about the kind of person Palin is. Well, that and the fact that she is quoted as saying that the Iraq war is "a task from God". Scary. Oh yeah, that and the fact that she thinks being able to see the edge of Russia from a bit of Alaska qualifies as foreign policy experience. Do we really want another four years of this kind of outright blithering stupidity and cupidity?

Posted by: Kathy Green | September 13, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

If McCain is elected, that's fine. But, if we want major economic growth, I'd recommend the candidate that said the word "science" in his speech. Technology follows science and the society with the stronger tech is going to win in battle and in economics. Obama seem to realize that the economy can be jumped up a notch with some strong R&D in the whole global warming thing.

Believe global warming or not, a technology race for the most efficient devices is a fine kick in the pants to get some major discovery's popping out of the USA. Our tech lead is slipping dangerously out of our hands, the LHC should being a strong indication of that.

Posted by: Superpants | September 13, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

It appears that did not disbuse anyone of the idea she had visited Iraq. I am beginning to wonder if lies are what she thinks the American public feed off? I personally think Obama will win and one of the main reasons is that people are really pee'd off by politicians thinking lies are the way to win elections. This one is going to bounce back into the face of the Rove style machine in a big way.

Posted by: Joe | September 13, 2008 4:21 PM


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No, it's what stupid Republicans feed off of in our almost gay worship of the Republican party!

Every Republican get down on your knees, here cums Larry Craig!

Posted by: Nobama08!!!! | September 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

It's fine if she has not been to Iraq. Not fine to lie about while running for VP of the USA...She lied and said she had visited an Iraq "battle zone".

We already have one exaggerator-in-chief, please not another.

-----------
If Palin has not been to Iraq,
then it creates a tear
in the time/space continuum,
and obviously,
we must vote against her.
I did not see that one coming.
Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 4:13 PM

Posted by: Concerned US Citizen | September 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Listen to the caterwauling of these liberal crybaby pansies!

Where's Ross Perot when you really need him, right?

heh,heh

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh...the hypocrisy of the right wing.

John McCain = Bush; Sarah Palin = Cheney.

Four more years of Bush and now Cheney!

Posted by: Michael | September 13, 2008 4:16 PM

its ironic you say that, because obama's economic plan is identicle to bushes last 2 years in teh whitehouse, and it was started by a democrat (clinton).

but feel free to stick with your ignorance, being a republican i rely on truth and myself. so whether you libtards elect obamessiah, i wont be affected by your economical nonsense.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I am not a christian,
htruman,
in america,
I can be anything.
if you can walk on
water,
more power to you.
I have a boat.

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

In 2000, Dems painted Bush as the idiot that he is and lowered expectations of him so much that post-presidential debate spin had him as an emerging genius since he had unexpectedly been able to mumble some points that made sense in the midst of all that mangled rubbish. Dems should not make the same mistake again.

Any person who is the governor of Alaska should be fairly intelligent and be able to put together a few sensible sentences during a debate/campaign speech. Palin would be no exception.

The distortions in McCain’s ads may cause a backlash with that portion of the electorate that is aware of the fabled GOP ability to mislead voters with commercials such as the ‘swift boat’ lies in 2004 – especially if the US media now realizes their error in not debunking those ads at that time. Then again, there might be no backlash – if the majority was capable of rejecting war hero Kerry (mainly bcse they were influenced by ads stating that he deserved only 4 medals instead of 5) and then voted for AWOL Bush, it is capable of doing anything. Nonetheless, negative campaigning by Obama-Biden is not the answer.

O-B should focus on urgent issues: Economy, trade & budget deficits, education, Iraq War, Patriot Act/human & civil rights violations, privacy, energy, global trade, global warming, decaying infrastructure, social security, healthcare and a great nation in gradual, insidious decline through ideological mismanagement/corruption/fiscal-monetary indiscipline - and inform the voters why they should vote for them … never mind why they should not vote for McCain-Palin.

They have everything going for them this election cycle (except race; as for gender, Palin will do to feminists what Thomas has done to Blacks). They need to repeatedly detail their solutions for complex problems at every given opportunity.

That is how they would attract independent votes like mine ...

Posted by: Hermes55 | September 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk! I cluck like a chickenhawk!

Obama will win because four years of McCain is four more years of Bush!

Posted by: Nobama08!!!! | September 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

It appears that did not disbuse anyone of the idea she had visited Iraq. I am beginning to wonder if lies are what she thinks the American public feed off? I personally think Obama will win and one of the main reasons is that people are really pee'd off by politicians thinking lies are the way to win elections. This one is going to bounce back into the face of the Rove style machine in a big way.

Posted by: Joe | September 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

anonymous sez:

"It's OK, they will tell the truth once elected."

You mean like Clinton?

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

We no longer trust the repoters or reports. We just believe that McCain and Palin are the real heros and true americans. We believe McCain and Palin are the Mavricks. We believe McCain and palin can protect us from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

F#*& off if you think you're a true american and I'm not.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The American people are 'sick to death' of their elected leaders not 'telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Can we trust ANYTHING this administration says or promises or predicts or does or evaluates or investigates or prays.

We CANNOT and that is a crucial lesson all of us must learn.

Posted by: Mark Golding - Children of Iraq Association | September 13, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

More lies from McCain/Palin.

McCain/Palin...all lies all the time. Even George Bush takes a day off from lying now and then.

McCain/Palin...more of the same...but worse!

Posted by: Cal | September 13, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Here's a story about Biden's exaggeration about his education:

'i exaggerate when i'm angry'

http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/3427171/

Posted by: Johnny Walker | September 13, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

as soon as you mutter
the phrase 'christian nutjobs'
you have entered
the liberal zone,
where killing caribou
is somehow equal with
killing humans,
above my pay grade,
means...duh duh''
allah, I wish you hadnt
asked that..
NOBAMA08

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 4:05 PM

-----------------------------------------

Hey USA3
Show me one passage from the bible in which Jesus condones lying. People like you make Jesus sick....that's why God invented hell so that he wouldn't have to spend eternity with self serving hypocrites like you.................

Posted by: htruman | September 13, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

If Palin has not been to Iraq,
then it creates a tear
in the time/space continuum,
and obviously,
we must vote against her.
I did not see that one coming.


Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 4:13 PM

I agree with usa3
we must save the universe.
this time/space thing
is nothing to mess
around with.

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Jeeze! Why do you have to pile on Palin? So she told a few lies and padded her resume, don't you understand she represents all of us unthinking Americans? We are extremely afraid of change. Okay, we don't like everything President Bush has done, but at least he represents core fundamental values. I know we've been beaten up by this. But it's scary leaving a relationship for something new. I would rather take the devil I know than a scary future. At least Palin looks nice. I would much rather vote for someone based on how they look than trying to figure out what kind of nutty policy they might make. McCain/Palin '08 Yeah! And I'm sure she'll make a really great president.

Posted by: josie of reston | September 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

It's ok, they will tell the truth once they're elected. Sometimes you have to lie to get elected, just like the rest of us lie on job applications.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh...the hypocrisy of the right wing.

John McCain = Bush; Sarah Palin = Cheney.

Four more years of Bush and now Cheney!

Posted by: Michael | September 13, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

This isn't simple padding of a candidates resume, it's downright falsification (i.e. lying), something McBush is learning rapidly it would appear.

Posted by: little white lie | September 13, 2008 4:13 PM

what about the little black lie? obama doesnt even qualify as black in america, 3% is not 1/8th.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Only when it is absolutely necessary. And so far, not so necessary.

:-(
-----
"Does she ever actually tell the truth?

Posted by: Gordo | September 13, 2008 4:11 PM"

Posted by: Concerned US Citizen | September 13, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

She certainly doesn't exaggerate any more than Obama's VP running mate, who recently invented a long winded tall tale about his educational background, which was quickly verifie as being way off base.

Posted by: Johhny Walker | September 13, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: yira | September 13, 2008 4:09 PM

actually i do, i was responding to someones direct mention of me, i simply forgot to add the name, sry.

but boy, do you put that liberal spin on faaaaaaaaast.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

If Palin has not been to Iraq,
then it creates a tear
in the time/space continuum,
and obviously,
we must vote against her.
I did not see that one coming.

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

This isn't simple padding of a candidates resume, it's downright falsification (i.e. lying), something McBush is learning rapidly it would appear.

Posted by: little white lie | September 13, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

And there was sniper fire,Moose and Jews being punished for not believing in Jesus

Vey esmeere

Is this the best the Christian right can do?

Wake up Landseman.

Should man ought to defraud God?

Malachi

Posted by: abbedd | September 13, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Does she ever actually tell the truth?

Posted by: Gordo | September 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin should join the Chinese Gymnasts for credibility!

Posted by: Paul Nolan | September 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

P.S. Palin is the *USA's latest "American Idol"... It helps that most people know virtually nothing about her. Thus people can project all their hero fantasies into her.. and believe the McCain teams all positive spin about her as well. Mantra of the day... " Don't bother me with the facts..as far as I'm concerned, Sarah Palin is the greatest thing since sliced bread !!!" No-one wants their bubble popped with any news to the contrary, even if it's true !!!

Posted by: spiritguide | September 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

so which one of them is LYING, palin or mcpalin?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

lol no thanks, unlike mccain i dont have the compassion for stupidity that would keep my head while being called a liar by liberals who cant back it up with legal action.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:58 PM

My response is that you are too cowardly to sign what you write.

Posted by: yira | September 13, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA CAMPAIGN: Get real!! Stop the mythology about the candidate and speak to the issues. Flood the media with ads about the GOP's deceptions. And strike Palin down now, not later. Muster more courage. The rest of the world depends on you.

Posted by: Xiao | September 13, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Where have all the Republican grown-ups gone?!! Are none? Really??

—–
Dale for VP
very good arguments,
unlike the obama
liar liar pants on fire
crusade.
Thank you.
Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 3:54 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Ronnnnn
Obama sucks the tit
like no other,
950 million in pork.
McCain has never
asked for an earmark.
Remember..
obama is running against
McCain.
NOBAMA08!

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Okay, the guy who wrote the entry below is not a sicko because he is a republican…But, I’m sure it doesn’t help!

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 3:51 PM

“Im a liberal,and as such I can type 120 words a minute and say things that add up to nothing,assuming that someone is actually reading it, when I know,I am always referred to by my friends as having my head in my ass and believing all kinds of goofy stuff, but there really are UFO’s and Aliens, so dont try to get me going about abortion, cuz a deer getting shot makes me glad we kill babies cuz I’m weird that way. I love animals, but dont really like humans, except myself and al gore and bono, oh I love bono, it really isnt just a fantasy it I believe. take me bono, more more, oh wait, oh yes, mccain is f*ching liar I know, obama tells me
every day! “

Posted by: Concerned US Citizen | September 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The RNC "bounce" wasn't a bounce at all-it not only shows no sign of subsiding-the McCain/Palin lead just keeps growing.
At least you diddy-worshipping opraholics and whoopie-disciples have a few weeks notice this time.
With gore, the agony was drawn out to the point of being almost unbearable. With kerry, WHAM! Exit polls said JFK, reality said Bush. Then came the xanax and the grief counsel, right?
Well, this time, you have a chance to prepare yourselves for defeat.
Look on the bright side-Slick William has offered up Chelsea for 2020; no self-respecting marxist could snivel about them apples!

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Another day, yet another lie exposed. These two are serial LIARS that will do anything to get elected. This shows the lack of ethics or judgment on the right of the aisle. And STILL, the poo flinging flying monkeys of the right are trying to equate it somehow to anything on the left. If gramps and buffy are elected, we deserve what we get.

Posted by: md83 | September 13, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Palin does not represent change - Americans are ready for a Revolution. ..............
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/14/americans-want-a-revolution-2008/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 13, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

A PATTERN OF DECEIT

Posted by: americanandproudofit | September 13, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

as soon as you mutter
the phrase 'christian nutjobs'
you have entered
the liberal zone,
where killing caribou
is somehow equal with
killing humans,
above my pay grade,
means...duh duh''
allah, I wish you hadnt
asked that..
NOBAMA08

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JoeT | September 13, 2008 3:57 PM

you do realize that politics is pandering? from foreign diplomacy to providing positive influence to the american people you are supposed to pander.

in fact no one can win an election without SOME pandering.

her record speaks to what she will stand to, pandering aside, as will obama's, his pandering aside (jeremiah wright? no pandering there?).

anywoo, im just disapointed in how false the lying accusations are. grossly mistated and butchered quotes are teh staple of this election (on both sides). however no one has lied (this election) tho i would look to the past to find the more convincing lies in both campaigns. ESPECIALLY obama's dangerous ties.

when it comes down to it, people should be afraid of obama, mccain is a strong face, in a harsh time, the only fear someone should have is that he will try to overturn roe v wade, which is nearly impossible when the congress is so democrat infused.

obama has far too many shady dealings and historical innacuracies, besides, we have never had anyone even close to as left wing as obama in a position of power with a democratic congress under them. i understand the desire of change, but changing too fast (perhaps illustrated best by premature births) is incredibly dangerous to ones health.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

If you can not get your facts straight on which country you visited then there is probably little information that comes from the McCain campaign that you can trust. They may not be lying, we each have to make that decision but they surely are careless and loose with words. Palin's statement that she refused earmarks on the bridge to no where is only true if you consider the earmark as the government appropriation of where the money was going. Since McCain considers it the waste of government money, Palin certainly wasted the government's money. Does it really matter whether it is carelessness or misinformation? Either way voters can't trust the McCain campaign.

Posted by: Ronnn | September 13, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Cassandra: you're right, Palin didn't lie herself. It was only the McCain campaign that is lying. And Obama had been to Iraq before McCain suggested that once wasn't enough and that he ought to go again. So he did and McCain ridiculed him for it

Posted by: JoeT | September 13, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

The only reports I have seen is that she went to Kuwait. What difference does it make .. Obama was in the Senate and didn't go to Iraq until McCain told him to go!!

Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 13, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

any ominous...
is that greek
for arroused
by my own hand?

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is really getting ridiculous. First the try to pass of a fuel stopover in Ireland as foreign policy experience, and now being close to Iraq is the same as being there.

Are you wondering just how silly the McCain campaign has become? Try to remember the last time that command of the state National Guard was used as a national security credential.

Posted by: McBain | September 13, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"We no longer trust the repoters or reports. We just believe that McCain and Palin are the real heros and true americans. We believe McCain and Palin are the Mavricks. We believe McCain and palin can protect us from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists."


Not that's the true definition of a braindead electorate. The question is, who will protect us from the Fundamental Christian Nutjobs?

Posted by: Josh Reinhuld | September 13, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

If you like Bush / Cheney, you'll love McCain / Palin.

Posted by: Baaa | September 13, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 3:54 PM

lol no thanks, unlike mccain i dont have the compassion for stupidity that would keep my head while being called a liar by liberals who cant back it up with legal action.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"We no longer trust the repoters or reports. We just believe that McCain and Palin are the real heros and true americans. We believe McCain and Palin are the Mavricks. We believe McCain and palin can protect us from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists."


Not that's the true definition of a braindead electorate. The question is, who will protect us from the Fundamental Christian Nutjobs?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Dale: fair enough, I would even agree with the exaggeration point, but she was still trying to pander to the global warming deniers. A more measured statement might have been "natural causes are probably dominant, but no matter what the human contribution, we should do whatever is practical to minimize that without burdening the economy" or something like that.

Posted by: JoeT | September 13, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

FACT SHEET: Unremarkable Military record of John Sidney McCain III

Both McCain III’s father and grandfather were Admirals in the United States Navy. His father
Admiral John S. ”Junior” McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe - later commander of
American forces in Vietnam while McCain III was being held prisoner of war. His grandfather
John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.
McCain III, like his father and grandfather, also attended the United States Naval Academy.
McCain III finished near the bottom of his graduating class in 1958.

McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft
1 - Student pilot McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus
Christi Bay while practicing landings.
2 - Pilot McCain III lost another plane two years later while he was deployed in the
Mediterranean. ”Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines
which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the
son of an admiral.
3 - Pilot McCain III lost number three in 1965 when he was returning from flying a Navy
trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. McCain III radioed, ”I’ve got
a flameout” and ejected at one thousand feet. The plane crashed to the ground and
McCain III floated to a deserted beach.
4 - Combat pilot McCain III lost his fourth on July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to
the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk combat pilot. While waiting his turn for takeoff, an
accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain Jr’s. plane. He escaped from the burning
aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft,
and threatened to sink the ship.
5 - Combat pilot McCain III lost a fifth plane three months later (Oct. 26, 1967) during his
23rd mission over North Vietnam when he failed to avoid a surface-to-air missile. McCain
III ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently
parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi. After being pulled from the lake by the North
Vietnamese, McCain III was bayoneted in his left foot and shoulder and struck by a rifle
butt. He was then transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

1973 New York Daily News labeled POW McCain III a “PW Songbird”
On McCain III’s fourth day of being denied medical treatment, slapped, and threatened with
death by the communist (they were demanding military information in exchange for medical
treatment), McCain III broke and told his interrogator, ”O.K., I’ll give you military information if you
will take me to the hospital.” U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former
POW John McCain.
It was then that the communist learned that McCain III’s father was Admiral John S. McCain,
the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific. The Vietnamese rushed McCain III to
Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents), a medical facility normally unavailable
for U.S. POWs.
By Nov. 9, 1967 (U.S. government documents) Hanoi press was quoting McCain III describing
his mission including the number of aircraft in his flight, information about rescue ships, and the
order of which U.S. attacks would take place.
While in still in North Vietnam’s military hospital, McCain III gave an interview to prominent
French television reporter Francois Chalais for a series titled Life in Hanoi. Chalais’ interview with
McCain III was aired in Europe.
Vietnamese doctors operated on McCain’s Leg in early December, 1967.
Six weeks after he was shot down, McCain was taken from the hospital and delivered to a
U.S. POW camp,
In May of 1968, McCain III allowed himself to be interviewed by two North Vietnamese
generals at separate times.” May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain
In August 1968, other POWs learned for the first time that John McCain III had been taken
prisoner.
On June 5, 1969, the New York Daily News reported in a article headlined Reds Say PW
Songbird Is Pilot Son of Admiral, “ . . . Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of
United States Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain, purportedly admits to having
bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praises medical treatment he has received since
being taken prisoner . . .” The Washington Post explained McCain III’s broadcast: “The English-
Language broadcast beamed at South Vietnam was one of a series using American prisoners. It
was in response to a plea by Defense Secretary Melvin S. Laird, May 19, that North Vietnam treat
prisoners according to the humanitarian standards set forth by the Geneva Convention.”
In 1970, McCain III agreed to an interview with Dr. Fernando Barral, a Spanish psychiatrist
who was living in Cuba at the time.
The meeting between Barral and McCain III (which was photographed by the Vietnamese)
took place away from the prison at the office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations in
Hanoi (declassified government document). During the meeting, POW McCain sipped coffee and
ate oranges and cakes with the Cuban.
While talking with Barral, McCain III further seriously violated the military Code of Conduct by
failing to evade answering questions ”to the utmost of his ability” when he, according government
documents, helped Barral by answering questions in Spanish, a language McCain had learned in
school. The interview was published in the in January 1970.

McCain III was released from North Vietnam March 15, 1973
In 1993, during one of his many trips back to Hanoi, McCain asked the Vietnamese not to
make public any records they hold pertaining to returned U.S. POWs. McCain III claims, that
while a POW, he tried to kill himself.

McCain III was awarded “medals for valor” equal to nearly a medal-and-a-half for each
hour he spent in combat
For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded
McCain III, the son of famous admirals, a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished
Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a
dozen service medals.
“McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat,” explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former
chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam
since the 1973 fall of Saigon.
“Since McCain got 28 medals,” Bell continued, “that equals to about a medal-and-a-half for
each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more
than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure
a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how
many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.”
For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and
biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed
to gloss over his failures as a pilot and his collaborations with the enemy to become America’s
POW-hero presidential candidate.
For more information: www.againstmccain.com www.usveterandispatch.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

warhammer online is an amazing game! It will be the best damn MMO in the market.

and oh yeah...if you still vote republican wtf. they are a joke

Posted by: whatever | September 13, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Here's the simple truth to all US voters:

McCAIN IS A LIAR.

STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS IS CROOKED.

Need proof? Go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Spread the word. Share this clip with ten friends.

Remember, McCain is a member of the party known for another infamous crooked liar: Nixon.

Our country cannot survive another four years of dishonesty.

Posted by: VoiceofReason5 | September 13, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING THEY TOLD US ABOUT SARAH PALIN IS A LIE! ANNE, WHEN IS SHE GOING TO GRANT YOU AN INTERVIEW TO EXPLAIN HERSELF?
WHAT'S THAT? NEVER?

Posted by: Mary | September 13, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

cut and paste democrats
make me sick.
Nobama08!!!!

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Dale for VP
very good arguments,
unlike the obama
liar liar pants on fire
crusade.
Thank you.

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Ann Kornblut is little more than an unethical stooge for the Obama campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Here's the simple truth to all US voters:

McCAIN IS A LIAR.

STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS IS CROOKED.

Need proof? Go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk

Spread the word. Share this clip with ten friends.

Remember, McCain is a member of the party known for another infamous crooked liar: Nixon.

Our country cannot survive another four years of dishonesty.

Posted by: VoiceofReason5 | September 13, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse


From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/hed-rather-win-election-than-tell-truth.html

Friday, September 12, 2008
He'd Rather Win The Election Than Portray The Truth

John McCain ran an honorable campaign in 2000.

He was beaten due to scurrilous dishonesty.

He's learned the lesson well.

He's hired those who did this to him.

And now, they are doing it again.

McCain has said that he would rather win the war than win the election.

In fact, as we have seen time after time this week, he would apparently rather win the election than convey the truth.

This approach brought us George W. Bush--and the dissembling, half-truths, omissions and distortions to come. And, so, brought us the tragic consequences that have followed for individuals and families across the nation and the world.

As Americans, we often have short memories and powerful impulses. We tend to act on the latter. This is why history can repeat itself.

Remember. Remember how driven by emotion many became last time. By impulse. Without thought. Remember the statements that were made. Remember the realities that followed. Remember.

You can feel what you feel now--anger, aggression, glee, without examination of the underlying truth--for a moment.

You will live with the consequences for years, decades to come--perhaps for the rest of your life.

Remember the thoughts and feelings that preceded these last 8 years.

Remember.

According to the non-partisan FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html), McCain has strained the truth about health care. About small business. About education. About taxes. About corporate welfare. About energy independence. About free trade.

We've seen this before.

We were distracted from the truth in just the same way before.

And we've lived the resulting damage--for the past 8 years.

This is the way we need to change the nation: By realizing what is true, rather than realizing what emotes us for the moment.

Think.

Remember.

And act accordingly for your future.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/hed-rather-win-election-than-tell-truth.html

Posted by: Cara Prado | September 13, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

The Sarah Palin video the Mainstream media doesn't want you to see. Watch it before you vote! 2 minute video. enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

Posted by: To dale and simonsays! | September 13, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

People wake up stop blaming Anne and other MSM reporters who are doing their jobs!! Even if you don't trust NYT or Washington Post you can't ignore the Factcheck.org ( which is nonpartisan and used by the McCain campaign) or Republican Senator Hatch. Your beef isn't with the media its with McCain. If he would stop lying then they would stop reporting on it

Posted by: lawkat08 | September 13, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Stacy, you wrote the message below. You're exactly what scares educated Americans. You clearly struggle speaking English. I'm sure that Obama's educated speech confuses you. And maybe you've only won arguments through scrapping and use of force so you can't imagine an intelligent approach to problems.

But you still have a vote and you can either continue to ruin America with Republicans or you can vote for Obama and turn the lights back on in that city on the hill.

Stacy wrote:

Why is that media lie about McCain and Palin?

Why is that Obama lie all the times he has a mike in his hand? He does not have a record. He disrespects everything and everyone other than his anti-american wife, radical friends and anti-social elements.

We no longer trust the repoters or reports. We just believe that McCain and Palin are the real heros and true americans. We believe McCain and Palin are the Mavricks. We believe McCain and palin can protect us from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

God bless america.

Posted by: stacy | September 13, 2008 1:34 PM

Posted by: Martiniano | September 13, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Im a liberal,
and as such I can type 120 words
a minute and say things that
add up to nothing,
assuming that someone
is actually reading it,
when I know,
I am always referred to by
my friends as having my
head in my ass
and believing all kinds
of goofy stuff,
but there really are UFO's
and Aliens, so dont try to
get me going about abortion,
cuz a deer getting shot makes
me glad we kill babies
cuz I'm weird that way.
I love animals, but dont
really like humans,
except myself and al gore
and bono,
oh I love bono,
it really isnt just a fantasy
it I believe.
take me bono,
more
more,
oh wait,
oh yes,
mccain is f*ching liar
I know, obama tells me
every day!

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kb1 | September 13, 2008 3:44 PM

instead of smearing you like you did stacy, im going to point out a "Fact" that proves you are "blindly commited" to your party.

there have been lobbyists, who went without food, without housing, in order to lobby government intervention, when a state government planned to bulldoze thier house for a new highway.

without some lobbyists, that man, who worked his whole life for a house for his family, would have been out on the street homeless with a family and two infant children.

obama is an idiot to not hear from lobbyists, a president is supposed to be a man who can face hard judgments of character.

obama runs from those decisions.

what is he gonna do, outlaw foreign talks so he doesnt have to stand by real choices?

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't know what Sarah Palin is about? Watch this 1 minute video on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

Posted by: Important facts about Palin | September 13, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

obama has been to germany!!!
I know, he told them he was
sorry for all of america's
mistakes...
but never mentioned
the souls of those six million
jews they cremated.
that must have been our fault too.
NOBAMA08!

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 3:31 PM
-------------
They (the gov and the germans at the rally) didn't cremate any jews. Their ancestors may have.

Nutjob, no one comes to America and chastises us for murdering millions of Native Americas. Why? Because it would be as stupid as your idea to have Obama talk in Germany about the murdered jews of WWII.


Senator John McCain supported George W. Bush 90 percent of the time. John McCain - not a maverick, he's a Bush's sidekick.

Posted by: Concerned US Citizen | September 13, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

My problem with Palin, its the flat out lying by the McCain camp. They have been purposely padding her resume. How come she did not straighten out the fact that she did not go to Iraq?? She knew what the McCain camp was saying about her.

Posted by: Lorraine | September 13, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

The Sarah Palin video the Mainstream media doesn't want you to see. Watch it before you vote! 2 minute video. enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

Posted by: Sarah fan | September 13, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Is there anything the McCain campaign won't lie about???

Posted by: tom | September 13, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

For a person who talked about his selflessness after balking at a chance for freedom from the Hanoi Hilton, McCain choice for VP shows just how selfish he is. It also shows just how much his campaign is willing to LIE in order to win. McCain fought for reform, but the culture of corruption is more deeply imbedded than when he first took public office in Washington. And, it's NOT the liberal media that's got it against Palin--the fact is that she took earmarks, and admitted as much during the Charles Gibson interview. No matter if it was recorded fact from Alaska Newspaper archives. It's just that the LIES are catching up to the McCain Campaign, and if some choose to ignore those LIES, then you get what you get. If you keep doing what you been doing, you're going to keep getting what you always got. If you want to defend your way of life, don't let McCain/Palin LIE to you and further oversee the economic destruction of the country you love so dear.

Posted by: ji_john | September 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The right has consciously made Palin the focus of the campaign, hoping a new face will distract everyone from their real agenda.
It isn't simply that Palin favors making rape and incest victims bear the child, or making rape victims bear the costs of an exam,

http://www.twincities.com/politics/ci_10438129s

or that she's a nut job with absurd values, it's that she's a diversion; the right intends to engage in global war, alienate our friends, and override the bill of rights, while lying to you and stealing your money.

Posted by: mark my words | September 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Your right KGB,
we should have elections
like in russia,
where uncle putin
always win!

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Lies, on top of lies, on top of lies. Now it comes out that the crowd of 23,000 they claimed was actually more like 8,000. They said the estimate was given them by the fire Marshall. Seems the fire marshal never told them anything or even made any estimate.

"THEY JUST FU&KIN MADE IT UP"

like everything else about this massive fraud that is being perpetrated on the american people.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 13, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Mark Gillis | September 13, 2008 3:39 PM

WRONG and thats why theres a lawsuit against obama.

this is a matter of constitutional interpretation. and despite what liberal extremism would beleive, and what obama has stated publically (about habeus corpus for terrorists) is NOT LEGALLY BINDING FACT.

the quote you have is actually echoed by nearly 40% of the judicial system in our country basing thier interpretation of the constitutional rulings.

only 20% back obamas position (on constitutional interpretation), but since the democratic party supports him that number is going up fairly fast.

for the first few years after the constitution was envoked this was a loose rule, however it was fully evoked as people BORN on american soil for over 150 years.

it is only in the last 50 years that obamas interpretation and yours has been even ACCEPTED with any validity.

check your facts dont spear liberal propoganda.

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

The Sarah Palin video the Mainstream media doesn't want you to see. Watch it before you vote! 2 minute video. enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

Posted by: Must see! | September 13, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

It's not a minor point or a joke that someone who is campaigning to be a heartbeat away from the presidency has not traveled much outside North America. It's a big world out there and we Americans not only have to live in but to lead it in many ways. Palin's background is fair game. No one is forcing her to run for the vice presidency. The whole point of standing for election is to make your case to the American people, who have a right to ask tough questions of those who seek high office. If she can't stand the heat, she should get out of the kitchen.

Posted by: Bob22003 | September 13, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow... what an ignorant rant.

Stacy, you are exactly the kind of voter whom we should all be scared of -- blindly committed to a party and a presidential ticket that, day after day, demonstrates that it not only doesn't care about truth, but believes it can alter reality by aggressively lying and then lying about the fact that they lied.

I would highly suggest that you try doing your own research and become educated on what has really happened over the last eight years in this country.

"Obama doesn't have a record..." Are you kidding me? He has a public record -- fully open for anyone to investigate -- that is well-known.

McCain & Palin as "mavericks"? McCain has seven -- count them, seven! -- highly connected lobbyists on his campaign staff. Palin aggressively sought and gladly took every single earmarked piece of pork she could for Alaska. This whole campaign -- and this Republican ticket-- would be laughable if it wasn't so terrifying.

God help us all if McCain/Palin win in November. We -- and the rest of the world -- will need all the luck we can get.

_______________________________________

Why is that media lie about McCain and Palin?

Why is that Obama lie all the times he has a mike in his hand? He does not have a record. He disrespects everything and everyone other than his anti-american wife, radical friends and anti-social elements.

We no longer trust the repoters or reports. We just believe that McCain and Palin are the real heros and true americans. We believe McCain and Palin are the Mavricks. We believe McCain and palin can protect us from Fundamental Islamic Terrorists.

God bless america.

Posted by: stacy | September 13, 2008 1:34 PM

Posted by: kb1 | September 13, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

There is only way to settle
this nosense,
our woman against
your biracial....
chose your weapons?
ah' hunting rifles
on the open Tundra.
Game On'

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I too america
type left hand nose pick right
bama0 change mind daiy three time
vp hide him run where? ok
mccain win smart man sarah good
michelle me scarE! face!
communist country me say no
barack no ok

USA4

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The writer is suggesting that Palin is lying. Palin has never said she went to Iraq. She has said that she went to Kuwait. That this statement gets "transmogrified" into something else by campaign staff or journalists is a trifle. Stop sniping.

Posted by: Rollcast | September 13, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

What will we learn next? LMAO, she didn't even support McCain until she got picked. What an old fool.

Posted by: Terry | September 13, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Palin herself never claimed to go into Iraq after her visit to Kuwait. I think this was a disconnect with her over-eager handlers, who need to calm down and just let her be herself.

Posted by: Kate | September 13, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Seven Ice ages,
cycles,
warming and cooling;
before Al Gore was born,
I think that creates
an argument, supported
by many scientists,
that the panic attack
liberal view of a grossly
exaggerated human footprint.
is in fact, a theory.
If you say it enough,
it is true... NOT.

Posted by: simonsays1 | September 13, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: free910 | September 13, 2008 3:34 PM

so no one with a budget under 40k expendable per year knows anything about the world?

what about people who still see the whole world but "don't see the forest for the trees"


its an age factor, republicans put labels on things so that people can prove they dont fit in labels, those that do they appoint as thier leaders.

is anyone facing the scary truth that the democratic base is 18-35 and republican is 45+? this is not just americans, but worldwide this is true.

why? BECAUSE PEOPLE GET SMARTER AS THEY GET OLDER. they dont just beleive obama, they research and find that hes full of it, and mccain, is HONEST.

but then again, you have to be smart enough to research

Posted by: dale | September 13, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

There is so much nonsense posted here about eligibility to be president and who was born where. The eligibility requirement for US president is to be a native born citizen (“No person except a natural born citizen shall be eligible to the office of President”). That does not mean that the person has to be born on the territory (one poster wrote erroneously: “Our constitution specifically states that to hold the office of the President of the United States, one must be born in the United States.”), but that the person have been a citizen at birth. There are two ways to become a native born US citizen - be born within the territory or be born the child of an American citizen. As the child of two US citizens, McCain was born an American (and no, the base in Panama is not American territory, as one poster claimed). If that were not the case, then the child of most soldiers born abroad would be stateless. Obama was born in the US, namely Hawaii, which was already a state in 1961. I have read many claims that state he was not born in the US and his birth certificate is fake, but they would have to prove it before anyone takes them seriously. Plus there is nonsense claim about Obama being a dual citizen (also would have to be proven), and the related claim that the Constitution forbids dual citizens to be President (there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution about that). As a political matter, I doubt the electorate would vote for a dual citizen, but there is no constitutional requirement about it.

Posted by: Mark Gillis | September 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Palin can't control her history because she lies so often about it. Then she complains when the truth is discovered. Do we really want to hear her screechy cover-ups for the next four years?

Palin can't control her kids: she lies about them, too. A knocked-up teen daughter; a scowling prospective "voluntary" teen son-in-law; a drugged-out son forced off to Iraq to straighten up after vandalizing public school buses. What a charming All-American family!!!

Palin is becoming a nightmare step-daughter that has moved in with Grampy McCain. And now he's lying about her, too, to cover up for her lies. Poor old guy!

Haven't we all been lied to enough the last 8 years?

Palin/McCain: Lying liars we can't afford to have lying in the White House!!

Posted by: Wasilla White Trash Watch | September 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

How about the lie that Palin never supported charging rape victims for their forensic exams? Her town was the only one in Alaska to do so, and only a state law stopped her. Palin's predecessor did not charge the victims.

Posted by: McBain | September 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

It's a good thing John McPain doesn't know how to use the web. He might get hurt by all the awful things being said about him. Do they still have glue factories? This maverick is ready for one.

Posted by: lagunar8er | September 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin is Bush/Cheney, they lie and then try and spin it into the truth. At first her foreign travel was Ireland, Kuwait, Iran and Germany. Then Ireland turned out to be a 2 hour layover and now it is Iraq which she apparently put her toe across the Kuwaiti/Iraqi border. Face it she find herself having to lie because she knows she is a lightweight.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | September 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

david

If it were a black 16-year old, why would anybody be any more surprised?
Sounds racist, to me. Are you a racist, David?

Posted by: viejo1 | September 13, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest. Let us speak the unspeakable. Editorialists are out in droves to tell us how Sarah Palin is not ready to be VP or possibly, President of the United States. She knows very little about national or international politics outside the boundaries of Alaska.

She does know Alaska politics. It's about oil and laying pipelines and giving the voters of Alaska more money each year in their oil rebate check. It's about sucking taxdollars from Washington and the rest of the American people to help build their roads and bridges, as was the attempt with the "bridge to nowhere."

Some fault John McCain for choosing such a person to be VP, in these critical times for our nation. It shows a terrible misjudgment on his part, they say. Some accuse Sarah Palin of having a false confidence that far exceeds her abilities and knowledge.

But who's really to blame? It's not John McCain. It's not Sarah Palin. It's the voters, stupid.

It's not ignorance. Ignorance can be corrected by education. It's hyper-partisanship. It's nationalism. It's naivete. It's stupidity. And it is a willful stupidity.

No one is permitted to say that. How can you call the voters stupid? Isn't that political suicide to call the voters "stupid"? Why would you do such a thing?

Because they are a threat to our entire nation. They have bought into the propaganda from talk radio and the lies of their political ads. They have turned a blind eye to the reality that our country is in a dire situation. They believe more of the same will cure what caused our problems to begin with. They have been taught to fear any opposing ideas.

We need to cut more taxes. We needed to invade Iraq. We need to talk tough and carry a little stick. We need leaders that are like us - someone we can have a beer with. We don't need intelligent folks skilled in the art of diplomacy. That is surrender, they are told. So they buy it. Why? Because they are stupid.

Posted by: kralford | September 13, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

yes I am american too
I talk broken
type with patient
tell you people
all. that bamaO
be the world savoir.
I say yes too.
ok. happy america
been very good to me.

Posted by: USA3 | September 13, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JoeT | September 13, 2008 3:31 PM

sorry but ur wrong, thats another statement by palin taken out of context