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Sarah Palin: Shooting Star?


Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin meets First Lady Laura Bush and Cindy McCain, wife of Sen. John McCain, in Minneapolis, Minn., September 2, 2008. (Reuters/McCain Press Office Handout)

By Dan Balz
ST. PAUL -- Four days into Hurricane Palin and the decision by John McCain to pick the Alaska governor as his vice presidential running mate looks every bit as big a gamble as it did when he introduced her to the public last Friday. "Sarah who?" has been replaced by, "Who is Sarah?" and "What was John McCain thinking?" has been replaced by, "What did John McCain know?"

Each day has brought new revelations about Sarah Palin that raise questions about her political biography and philosophy. Not all of them are accurate, but many are. The McCain campaign is chasing ghosts as it tries to keep up with everything flying across the Internet. Tamping down inaccurate information is only part of the challenge. They are attempting to shape her introduction before others can.

Was she a past supporter of Pat Buchanan? He says yes; she and the campaign say no, not really, though she did put on a Buchanan button when he was in the state during one of his campaigns. Was she a member of the fringe American Independence Party? The campaign says no, that she has been a registered Republican since 1982. Was she a friend or foe of earmarks? It depends on when you look at her public career.

All these disclosures call into question just how thoroughly her selection was weighed by McCain and his top advisers. Palin is now in the spotlight, but so too are McCain and his campaign advisers.

Did McCain seriously turn to Palin only near the end of the process, after he was talked out of picking Joe Lieberman? Or was she also sitting there as a genuine prospect who, in the end, fit the message McCain wants to send about himself this fall?

McCain's campaign certainly has been consistent and unequivocal: Palin received the same full vet as did other who were truly under consideration. "The vetting process was completely thorough and I'm grateful for the results," McCain said Tuesday in Philadelphia amid continuing questions about how he finally settled on someone as little known, and as little discussed, as Palin.

But there continue to be indications that her selection was done in haste and that the final vetting may have come very late. McCain advisers will not talk about the timeline for the vetting, only that she underwent the same scrutiny as others on the short list.

No one doubts that her selection has energized this convention. For McCain that is an unexpected boost. His inner circle has been blown away by the reaction. "The positive reaction from base we expected," one close adviser to McCain said. "The overwhelmingly positive was a surprise."

Republican pollster Whit Ayres said Tuesday morning that he has been struck at just how much Palin has affected the mood among Republicans, particularly women. The reaction to her, he said, is every bit as strong among Republican women at this convention as Barack Obama's candidacy has been to African Americans.

But Palin's public portrait is far from complete. Other than that she is very popular in Alaska, what really is known about how she has governed, how she has related to legislators, what her executive style is, what issues she cares most about?

The McCain campaign knows what they believe about her, and if the vetting process was as thorough as they claim, then there will be no surprises to them, even if there are surprises to the public. But that is only part of the challenge. The question is whether Palin will prove as appealing to the general public as the McCain campaign finds her.

Is she, as the McCain campaign has said, a political reformer who reinforces McCain's message of shaking up Washington? Is she a hard-right conservative who will appear out of the mainstream to moderate, suburban women the campaign would like to attract? Is she an engaging hockey mom juggling demands of career and family?

"We're letting you guys paint the picture [of Palin] before we even get into the game," campaign manager Rick Davis told Post reporters and editors Tuesday morning. "That's certainly not something that's going to inure to our long-term benefit, so of course we're going to get into the act."

The campaign's situation is complicated by the fact that Palin has gone private to prepare for her speech to the convention later this week, to undergo a series of briefings on domestic and foreign policy issues and to acquaint her and her family with the rigors of a national campaign.

Davis said Tuesday morning that the campaign "sacrificed prep for surprise." What he meant, he said, was that the McCain team did not float out her name -- or, he insisted, the names of anyone else who was talked about as being on the vice presidential short list -- and therefore the public was far less prepared for her selection, because she had not figured in the public speculation in the days before the announcement.

"We had a surprise and we chose the surprise rather than sort of methodically moving it out into the public domain and playing the game you normally play with a presidential candidate of being able to lay down a pretty good slick of information and expectation," he said. "We didn't put anybody out."

So much now depends on Palin when she reemerges later this week. Her speech will be closely watched, but there is little doubt that she will pass that test, given the preparation underway. Then she will begin campaigning again. She will undergo interviews with the press. She will have a debate with Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden.

Meanwhile, a new Alaska pipeline of information will deliver a steady flow of facts to the rest of the country. Her introduction has had pluses and minuses, but no one would describe it as other than tumultuous, given the surprise nature of her selection, the announcement that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant and the effort by her opponents to portray her in an unflattering light.

McCain saw himself in Sarah Palin, his advisers claim. Will she prove to have McCain's countenance and durability, or will she be a political shooting star?

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 2, 2008; 4:40 PM ET
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McCain's move to the far right of the Republican party to keep Bush & the born again Christians happy destroys any chance he has to be President. Sarah Palin is a poor imitation of Hillary Clinton. But i guess she can skin a Moose ? I think she's already skinned the scared Elephant. "Big Grin"

Posted by: SadAmerican | September 7, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but Noonan just loved her. Right? Right? Am I right?

Posted by: Jon | September 7, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin - Who She???????
Apparently the GOP MUST KNOW SINCE bUSH GOT HIS SPEECH WRITERS TO DO HER BIDDING!

AND SOMEONE MADE SURE SHE WORE LIPSTICK SO WE KNOW SHE ISN'T A PIT BULL JUST A GOOD OLE MOM TRYING TO CONVINCE THE WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EVOLUTION AND TRYING TO PUT OVER A "HOLIER THAN I"" IMAGE. WELL IF AMERICANS WERE CONVINCED WITH GWB GARBAGE!
PUT TOGETHER BY HIS BACKERS AND WRITERS, AND NOT A BRAIN IN HIS DRY DRUNK BRAIN, CAN AMERICA BE DUPED AGAIN?
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Posted by: LYNN PARKER | September 7, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

julia you are an idiot, women like you dont get called "sweety" they get called "ding bats"

Posted by: j | September 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse


Why does Obama pay the women on his staff less than the men?

The women on McCain's staff get equal pay.

Posted by: julia | September 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse


Why does Obama call women "sweetie"?

Posted by: julia | September 7, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain lost this election when he rolled over to the Neo-Cons in the 2000 South Carolina primary. What we have here is a "Polished Turd". The Repubs are just settling. End of day....this ticket may be shiny.....But, Hey!

Posted by: Jim Thomas | September 7, 2008 12:33 AM | Report abuse


More sexism from the left. EVERY canidate has a speech writer, why is it suddenly news that Sarah uses one?


LIBERAL = SEXIST

Posted by: julia | September 6, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign handed this lady a speech written by some Bush hack, and all of a sudden she's a star. I don't think so. This goes hand in hand with the corporate media bull that's being fed to us every day of the week. Their trying to make this election seem close so no one will say anything when it's rigged. Here's part of a story that talks about how thing's just don't add up.

Preposterous polls and corrupt campaigns
By James H. Fetzer
Online Journal Contributing Writer


Aug 15, 2008, 00:16

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Madison, WI -- What’s wrong with this picture? Everyone hates George W. Bush. Everyone wants change. Over 65 percent of the American people agree the nation is headed in the wrong direction. One candidate is brilliant, inspiring, charismatic and represents change. The other is aging, inarticulate, incoherent and stands for the status quo. The first has been running a brilliant campaign, the other a campaign in virtual chaos. Each day one candidate offers serious solutions for significant problems, while the other makes a fool of himself. Yet the polls say, “McCain is gaining ground” and “Obama is losing ground.” One national poll even has them running neck and neck or shows McCain ahead of Obama.

Do any of us stop and think that these poll results cannot possibly be correct? That when Obama meets with heads of state in the Middle East and Europe and draws 250,000 to a rally held in Berlin, while one reporter welcomes McCain in Manchester, NH, it is not credible that McCain should be competitive with Obama? Or that during a week in which celebrity Paris Hilton produces a video that very skillfully and effectively rebuts McCain’s use of her image -- along with that of Brittany Spears -- we are supposed to believe (according to The Wisconsin State Journal, August 6, 2008), that “Among voters aged 18-29, Obama lost 16 percent and McCain gained 20.” Are we supposed to be so dumb that we accept this at face value? Even after subtracting 16 percent from Obama and adding 20 percent to McCain, The Wisconsin State Journal (August 6, 2008) still gave Obama the lead among the young by 49 percent to 38 percent. The contrast if the polls were not reflecting (what I take to be) artificial adjustments would be on the order to 65 percent to 18 percent in this category. The Journal also reported that McCain had gained 10 percent among women, yet Obama still leads in that category, too, by 43 percent to 38 percent. Perhaps nominating your wife for “Miss Buffalo Chip” is a big draw among women. Among independents, Obama is reported to have lost 11 percent points, where they are now tied. Does anyone really think that women and the young find McCain attractive? He’s never even heard of Paris Hilton! How does this comport with report after report of dramatic increases in voter registration with an overwhelming preference for the Democratic Party? Three possible explanations have occurred to me. The first is that the pollsters are excluding those who use cell phones. Cell phone users are, no doubt, overwhelmingly young and attuned to the politics of change. The second is that Hillary has asked her followers to express support for McCain rather than Obama to make her case for the nomination stronger. The third -- and most disturbing -- is that the polls are being artificially depressed to make the contest appear closer, so that when the time come to steal the election, the American public will be less likely to notice. The benefits are potentially substantial: Doubts are created in the minds of Obama’s followers, decisions may be made to cope with imaginary problems, and a McCain win would appear more plausible.

Anyone who thinks the GOP is beyond stealing elections using electronic voting machines hasn’t been paying attention. The elections of 2000, 2002, and 2004 were strongly affected, as many studies have shown. Just Google “election theft using electronic voting machines” if you have any doubts. More ominously, an extreme Bush partisan, Michael L. Connell of GovTech Solutions, has been selected to re-organize congressional web sites and has thereby gained access to the electronic records of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Ethics Committee, as the voter fraud and polling expert Bob Fitrakis has observed (“Behind the firewall: Bush loyalist Mike Connell controls Congressional secrets as his email sites serve Karl Rove,” Online Journal, July 31, 2008). Connell boasts of his loyalty to his friends and to the Bush family.

Posted by: HemiHead | September 6, 2008 3:42 AM | Report abuse

This woman, Ms Palin, may well be the person of least gravitas to be put in a position to being in direct line to be president of the United States

Not because she a women- she probably not be morally an n evil person, a bit tacky, perhaps, but this is not the issue.

She's the type of person you read about in some local paper while your staying at a red roof inn in anyplace USA. There’s a small article about he having won an award from century 21, for closing the most houses in the first quarter of the year in Tyler Texas, or. Perhaps, there’s something about her being appointed as the assistant manager of a Wall-Mart in Bristol TN.

She clearly is not global quality material even if a fine person.

John McCain might as well of picked her out of a lottery, where you pay $5 for a ticket at a table in the mall, or the mini mart and then he goes on television and picks the number with one of those machine that blow numbered ping pong balls into a clear erect tube to determine the winner.
Lux lumina

Posted by: lex lumina | September 3, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

the more i see and hear and read - NO WAY to her and mcsame


It also emerged that in January the Alaskan Governor repeatedly laughed on air as a talk-radio host described one of her political opponents as a “cancer” and a “b__ch”. The opponent in question, Lyda Green, the Alaskan state senate president, is a cancer survivor. An audio recording of the interview with Bob Lester, the Alaskan “shock jock”, had received more than a quarter of a million hits on YouTube by yesterday morning.

Posted by: i am a woman and i would NEVER vote for her | September 3, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Hah, the sexist conservative hate machine is still in full swing. It is truly funny to watch the media fall into such an obvious trap. The dems can already smell blood.

Sexism is part of a conservative's core values, though it doesn't look like the pederast conservatives can stop themselves. Reagan is god to them and his sexism is a badge of honor for many repukes.. just ask McCain.

Posted by: gop r losers | September 3, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse


Sarah Palin Slashed Special Needs Education by 62%


For those of you who seem so enamored with Gov. Sarah Palin, it might be worth noting that she oversees the budget for the Department of Education and Early Development Special Schools in Alaska.
These funds provide supplementary educational services to students with severe disabling conditions and the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy. The resident school where the child would normally be placed does not have the resources to provide an adequate educational program. Without the supplementary services the child's needs would not be met by the local school district in most cases.
The following programs are included within this component:
Special Education Service Agency (SESA)

The Annual budget for 2007, which preceded Gov. Palin was $8,265,300.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/08_OMB/budget/EED/comp2735.pdf

The Annual budget for 2008, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/08_OMB/budget/EED/comp2735.pdf

The Annual budget for 2009, enacted by Gov. Palin is $3,156,000.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/09_omb/budget/EED/comp2735.pdf


This is a cut in special needs services to children in Alaska of 5,109,300 , or 62%.

So, as the Alaska State Budget description states, "Without the supplementary services the child's needs would not be met by the local school district in most cases."

Did 62% of all of the special needs children in Alaska stop having needs once Gov. Palin took office?

Before we get so excited about Gov. Palin bringing her "Reformer" agenda to Washington, perhaps we should get to know a little more about what exactly that means to our children, and the opportunities that she would "Reform".

If you ask me, a 62% cut in these funds, which we all know are so desperately scarce, and for which we all have to fight tooth and nail for our children, is a disgrace.

Just a thought...

Posted by: jim syar | September 3, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

IS "THE TRAIL" BLOG BEING HACKED?

I received a white screen saying "The Trail -- Comment submission Error" in black and blue letters with NO Washington Post graphics or identification, and exhibiting bad grammar to boot.

It looks like a "spoof" page that was inserted by a hacker.

Although the screen stated that "too many comments have been submitted from (sic) you in too little a time," my post WAS in fact posted.

But I didn't discover this until I tried again, just a few seconds later, resulting in a double post.

Are the Post's blog sites being hacked? Has anyone else experienced this? If so, please let us know.

If there is such a white page with no WaPo logos or ID, please Washington Post let us know. It doesn't look official to me. Thank you.

Posted by: scrivener | September 3, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: scrivener | September 3, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

The part of the investigation into her misuse of power that is conveniently left out of most of the coverage is that the brother-in-law that this investigation is largely about was found guilty by an investigation conducted by the Alaskan troopers of the following offenses during or around the time of the divorce:

Troopers eventually investigated 13 issues and found four in which Wooten violated policy or broke the law or both:

• Wooten used a Taser on his stepson.

• He illegally shot a moose.

• He drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion.

• He told others his father-in-law would “eat a f’ing lead bullet” if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce.

For these, he was given a 5 day suspension...

He was also written up for numerous smaller violations not related to the family since joining the force, including multiple speeding violations, damaging his state vehicle neglegently, misuse of his state cell, etc... all deemed minor but prompted the following statement from the head of the Alaska Troopers at the time:

"The record clearly indicates a serious and concentrated pattern of unacceptable, and at times, illegal activity occurring over a lengthy period, which establishes a course of conduct totally at odds with the ethics of our profession"

Did he get more attention because of the family ties and post divorce harrasment? Probably. Should he have been fired? Absolutely. Should his bosses have been fired for not firing him? No question in my mind.

Posted by: Mike | September 3, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Stav:

She was never a member of AIP, and she was vetted on the other allegations as well. I am voting for McCain-Palin.

Posted by: JakeD | September 3, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Okay, I believe McCain. He had Palin fully vetted and knew that she was associated with a secessionist movement; was a creationist; was on the Ted Stevens team; had on a least two occasions used her official government powers to deal with personal family issues, etc. What does this tell me about John McCain's leadership, judgment and decision-making ability

Posted by: Stav | September 3, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

"How Republicans Win"

This is a worthwhile read if you think it can't happen again ...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/082908.html

Posted by: jameo | September 3, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Hah, the sexist liberal hate machine is still in full swing. It is truly funny to watch the media fall into such an obvious trap. The republicans can already smell blood.

Sexism is part of a liberals core values though, it doesn't look like the libs can stop themselves. Kennedy is god to them and his sexism is a badge of honor for many dems.. just ask Bill.

Posted by: reason | September 3, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what its like to get famous by getting the Govs daughter pregnant


The mccain train wrsck continues........

If the conversating stays on Mccain, he gets linked to all the stupidity of Bush, and they lose

Posted by: Alexandrian | September 2, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

I was watching Palin's speech again & it looks like she had some cum on her face, did you see that?? How can we trust her to run the country if she can't even get a towel before going in public?

Posted by: tom in atlanta | September 2, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Palin is a worthless Wh0re | September 2, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Bush/Chaney & McLame/Failin hate american so much they would like to see millions of more people on the otherside of the world dead just so they could remain in office.


Republicans are such despicable people.

Posted by: gop hates america | September 2, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious the republicans feel they are going to lose to Obama/Biden if Bush/Chaney are going to bomb Iran.


Republicans are such sore losers they feel they need to kill millions of more people to win an election. Sounds like Nixon/Kissenger all over again.

Posted by: bush and chaney are sooo desparate | September 2, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin Hates America. She named two of her daughters after pagan witches (Trig and Willow). She vetoed a bill barring same-sex benefits. She worships at the Church of the Rock, which sounds suspiciously like Dome of the Rock, a MUSLIM shrine. For YEARS she was a member of the radical Alaska Independence Party, a separatist group whose slogan is "Alaska first" and whose founder says he's "not an American" and has "got no use for America or her damned institutions" and "the fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government." She even wears an ALASKA LAPEL PIN, not an American one. And she was born in Idaho, which is 99% white. Therefore, Sarah Palin is a radical separatist homosexual lesbian racist pagan MUSLIM who HATES AMERICA!!!!1!11!9/11!!

Posted by: Satire | September 2, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Is this the best the republicans can get? I mean I know McCain was a Vietnamese Collaborator and he single handedly shut down the US Air Force with all the information he gave to the Vietnamese, but why on earth would he choose Palin?!

Hey I would've been a better candidate. For crying out loud, even my grandma would've been better and she has a wooden leg with a kickstand.

Posted by: GOP blows the donkey on all fours | September 2, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Well, she is getting a billion dollars worth of free publicity. Meanwhile, according to Dutch intelligence (via jpost/Drudge) Bush and Cheney are getting ready to bomb Iran, figuring that this October surprise will make McCain seem the safer pick. All this fluff about the beauty queen looks like just a diversion from the real issues.

Posted by: scientist1 | September 2, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

@rtfanning

Alaska is a large state, but it's barren and not predominately occupied by humans like new york, texAss, or california.

So to be truthful, Palin has no experience running anything much less her family of retards.

Posted by: rtfanning sucks | September 2, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

and you thought McCain would ruin this country if he became president...

Just wait until he croaks. We're all screwed!

Posted by: gop sux.com | September 2, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Oh I feel SO starved for affection and power after having placed second in the beauty contest that I'll abandon my pregnant 17 year-old daughter, my special needs baby, the new job I just got as Chief of the Big Igloo after being promoted from mayor of a small hamlet, so I can reverse a woman's right to choose, deny equal rights to gays, cut more taxes for the rich, enable oil companies to rape public lands, and be second in line to have my finger on the button! HOW PATHETIC!! The rest of the world is laughing in disgust!

Posted by: Xiao Peng | September 2, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

McCain+Palin= McPAin
Maverick+reckless decisions= McWreck

McPain+McWreck = Disaster

Posted by: potus | September 2, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Palin also supports shooting wolves from airplanes. The Alaskan DEP will actually pull baby wolves from the den and kill them so that Alaskan hunters don't have to compete with them for moose. It's hideous.

Posted by: clint | September 2, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

This looks increasingly like a bad choice - too bad it's so popular that the GOP will follow through with it. Sarah Palin does not have the depth of experience, education, or temperament to be President, which is a distinct possibility given Senator McCain's age. This all speaks volumes about McCain's lack of judgement.

Posted by: Karl in MD | September 2, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

How about backing the statement that Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party. The response by some that Palin was a registered Republican since 1988 is an inadequate response since she could have still been a member of the Independence Party. Why can't we put an end to this nonsense by looking at the official membership list of the Membership Party and if she paid any dues(if any). This would be the fair thing to do for Palin and to the country. It is critical to clear this issue.

Posted by: ninan | September 2, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Liberals howl that Palin has no experience, no qualifications to be president of the United States. But the lady has more executive experience than McCain, Joe Biden and Obama put together.

None of them has ever started or run a business as Palin did. None of them has run a giant state like Alaska, which is larger than California and Texas put together. And though Alaska is not populous, Gov. Palin has as many constituents as Nancy Pelosi or Biden.

She has no foreign policy experience, we are told. And though Alaska's neighbors are Canada and Russia, the point is valid. But from the day she takes office, Palin will get daily briefings and sit on the National Security Council with the president and secretaries of state, treasury and defense.

She will be up to speed in her first year.

And her experience as governor of Alaska, dealing with the oil industry and pipeline agreements with Canada, certainly compares favorably with that of Barack Obama, a community organizer who dealt in the mommy issues of food stamps and rent subsidies.

Posted by: rtfanning | September 2, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Steve Chan

McCain achieved a temporary tactical victory whether that translates into votes only time will tell.

McCain has made it clear that if he vetted his VP candidate properly you certainly could not tell by what has come out so far.

The Republican Party is the party of mediocre leadership which John McCain plans to continue.

I prefer to focus on the investigation of Palin's revenge on her ex-brother-in-law and the fact that she has been for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. I am concerned about her penchant for earmarks. But most of all I focus on her and her husband who feel that they can dump their Down Syndrome child and devote themselves to her career. Both of them need spiritual counseling because they seem to feel that their responsibility ends when they do not abort the child. Sure seems that their decision was a political one and not a moral one.

I seriously doubt that those are fully aware of the parenting skills of the Palins will be impressed by Sarah as a hockey mom.
The fact that McCain keeps Mrs Palin holed up and not exposed to the media says that he lacks confidence in his choice and only time will tell whether the tactical move showed that McCain's impetuous decision was a wise one. What will people's confidence in McCain's decision making is the crucial question.

I honored your request not to talk about Palin's pregnant daughter and I am still dismayed by the ineptitude of that choice. McCain's big decision was a poor one, even if tactically advantageous.

Posted by: Ronnn | September 2, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain just lost the election. Just when I thought Republicans couldn't get any dumber or more incompetent. Duh.

And look who it leaves us with: the Democrats.

Posted by: Shelama | September 2, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

According to some news reports, McCain was going to choose Lieberman or Ridge, but most right wing conservatives were strongly opposed to either. The McCain staff likely seriously considered and vetted these two individuals, Romney, as well as Pawlenty, the senator from Minnesota. McCain seemed to choose Palin because he knew he was probably going to lose unless he did something dramatic, to try to change the dynasmics of the campaign in his favor.

Obviously she is not qualified to be vice-president or president. Republican presidential candidates often chose unqualified vice-presidential nominees, such as the guy Goldwater selected, Agnew and Qualye.

Some persons describe Palin as a reformer, without as far as I can tell, actually describing her reform agenda. In fact, she is very similar to McCain in being pro-Bush and very conservative on nearly all issues.

Posted by: Independent | September 2, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Sen. McCain just cancelled an interview with Larry King because he's mad that CNN's Campbell Brown had the gall to ask McCain's spokesperson about why her role as "commander in chief" of the Alaska National Guard, as well as Alaska's proximity to Russia (two Republican talking points), qualified her to step in as president if need be.

Sen. McCain obviously doesn't want to have to face the tough questions about why he selected her and why she's qualified.

This should raise serious questions about his judgment and his temperament if he's not willing to appear with Larry King, the meekest of all cable news interviewers.

If she's so great, why doesn't he want to talk about her?

Posted by: gep | September 2, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for the WaPost, if these comments are indicative of their readers. But at least a few of them can read.

Posted by: RR, Anch, AK | September 2, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

For Obama supporters, let us honor his words and not make this important election into a debate about many small things.

Whatever the merits or lack thereof of McCain's pick, and on that only time can tell, McCain has achieved a tactical victory. Obama's acceptance speech should have been the talk of town (only after Gustav) these days but instead the limelight is on the McCain campaign. Will Palin add to or subtract from McCain's campaign, well let us see - without getting into her daughter's pregnancy.

Posted by: Steve Chan | September 2, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe all the nasty, mean-spirited garbage coming from Obama supporters here. I'm voting for Obama, but I don't support the Democratic party– it seems like most of you are complete hypocrites. "White trash?" "McShame?" Way to be loving and tolerant, you guys. So much for the myth that Democrats and liberals are more enlightened and more tolerant. You are just as bigoted as conservatives, if not more.

Posted by: Digusted Moderate | September 2, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

"But Palin's public portrait is far from complete. Other than that she is very popular in Alaska, what really is known about how she has governed, how she has related to legislators, what her executive style is, what issues she cares most about?"

Sure we would like to know about her public portrait, perhaps the media can paint it as soon as they paint us a portrait of Barack Obama that goes beyond "he sends a chill up and down my leg".

Posted by: magellan1 | September 2, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

John McCain can't even vet his vice presidential candidate and could not manage his finances in the primary. What is the evidence that he is capable of any executive function.

The poor man can't even choose the VP candidate he wants. Since 2006 he has voted with Bush an average of 60% of the time. Mr McCain lost his political courage when he wanted to be nominated by the Republican Party. He even lost the common sense that made him vote against the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts because he thought they were skewed to the rich and inappropriate during a war.

McCain lost the courage of his convictions. Instead he made the impetuous decision to choose Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Ronnn | September 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of liberal men on this site who sound like pointy-headed ungracious weak geeks that don't like women. Is that because they haven't been with one?

Well, teresa, I am a liberal guy who dated the local chairwomen of NOW. Who worked with and supported Deomcratic women candidates when they were anathema to republicans. Who began a writing career by covering the local girls high school b-ball team to the state championship. Who coached girls little league softball, then women's softball, and now umpire women's softball. I'm married and have two daughters. I love women and have supported them socially and professionally. That said, I don't like the fraud sarah palin and I don't like you.

Posted by: mike l | September 2, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I love my country, America !

I don't want that Hussain to be The Commander in Chief. Looks like he will lead the change of USA to a Moslem World !

GOD BLESS USA !
The Land of the free and the brave !

Posted by: I Love My Jewish Friends | September 2, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

"Teresa,

Its time for your parents to tuck you in. You leave the grown up talk to the adults. When you speak you make yourself look follish in front of thousands and thousands of people. Its ok to be embarassed and ashamed. In a few years you'll be big enough to think for yourself.

Posted by: COMMON SENSE | September 2, 2008 8:58 PM

Memo to COMMON SENSE:

You need to put a hand on each cheek and see if you can pull your head out of Obama's backside. You are the "little" man that I was talking about.

Posted by: er | September 2, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Teresa,

Its time for your parents to tuck you in. You leave the grown up talk to the adults. When you speak you make yourself look follish in front of thousands and thousands of people. Its ok to be embarassed and ashamed. In a few years you'll be big enough to think for yourself.

Posted by: COMMON SENSE | September 2, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

There are a lot of liberal men on this site who sound like pointy-headed ungracious weak geeks that don't like women. Is that because they haven't been with one?

Go Sara!!!

Posted by: Teresa | September 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Ya'll knew McCant and his campaign were going to look for the biggest "Gotcha" they could find, he's so flippin boring they needed the equivalent of The Spice girls to get him any press, and thats exactly what he got.
The baggage he brought onto his campaign has no relevance to the campaigning, but as far as the new teams ability to be a VP or POTUS, c'mon, you gotta be joking , right??? His lack of ability to control his campaign, and the decisions being made around him should be proof enough how capable he is to be the Pres.He cant answer a question without rehersing it, cant handle being asked adverse situations without freaking out on somebody.No, i think its more than old age, i think he really does have alzheimers or possibly even dimentia going on.
Im not trying to knock him just because i dont agree with the GOP platform, even i would have voted for Reagan. But this old boy needs to move on, find a hobby or adventure to spend his final years with his wife.
Mrs. Palin could use a few lessons from Mrs. Bush on Motherhood.Not saying it's the only place women belong.But willfully having 5 children knowing you are not as available as you should be, it just doesnt add up.The scorn on her daughters faces should say enough. And what does a 17 year old having sexual relations with a much older man usually mean? A little anger, a little grab for attention.So, Moms all pro life, and pro womens rights, but she will allow and revel in her 17 year old putting a huge obstacle in her own path when she should be focusing on her own future.And we know if Grandma and McCain get elected, theres one less person to help out with the child.
i guess its just the GOP motto, or is the Christian Motto

" Do as I say, Not as I do"

Posted by: mullett | September 2, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

They have a video of Palin supporting the Independence party (the one that wants Alaska to break away from the US and become its own country) if you look out on the net.

There are also newspaper reports that show her supporting the Bridge to Nowhere. So she was for it before she was against it. And it doesn't help that she ran Sen. Ted 'The Internet is Not a Big Truck' Stevens' Political Action Committee. For those who don't remember, Sen. Stevens is the one who proposed the Bridge to Nowhere. He's under indictment right now. He's also the longest serving Republican in the Senate and campaigns proudly about how much pork he brings to Alaska. That's not really the sort of PAC a 'reformer' should be running, now, is it?

The campaign keeps denying things, but its amazing how fast they're scrubbing all traces of her from various web pages, right down to her daughter's boyfriend's MySpace page which they took entirely offline. Yes, there are fakes. But unless a lot of Alaskan newspapers have conspired to make up stories about her over the past few years based on the slim chance she might someday be chosen as VP rather than a more qualified Republican woman like Sen. Olympia Snowe, Palin is in deeper than she wants to admit.

If McCain had any sense, he'd get her to resign, then pick one of the qualified Republican women. There are several highly qualified senators and governors to choose from without going for an inexperienced person who is totally unknown.

Posted by: Joe | September 2, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN CAMPAIGN MANAGER RICK DAVIS CALLS PALIN "FAILIN'" ON MSNBC NEWS

NICE FREUDIAN SLIP!!!!

VIDEO HERE: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/2/185153/4475/961/583808

Posted by: laplumelefirmament | September 2, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

after reading the following I was actually persuaded now to change my Vote to PresidenT Barak Obama.

I find if hard to believe people are questioning Sarah Palin and John McCains credentials.

As the son of an Admiral and Grandson of and Admiral John McCain was under enormous pressure to do well at the naval academy. How else could you explain all of his stellar acomplishments while finishing 894th out of a class of 899?

As for Sarah. C'mon people. She ran a town the size of a large high school. Do you know how hard that is? So what if every year as mayor she ended the year in a budget deficit. We do it as a country practically every year. From 1980 to 2008 this country had only 5 years of budget surplus.....1996 through 2001. See.....no big deal.

And what about after she was voted out of office. She was the head of the Alaska Oil Conservation Commission. Do you know how hard it is to manage a department with 22 people. It was so tough that out of the 22 employees in the entire organization 10 of them have the title of adminstrative assistant. I gleaned this info from their own website.

And thank god she's white and had connections.....how else can you explain how she managed to get a BS in Journalism from the University of Idaho. If your dad isn't a congressman or made a donation that built a new dormatory then you can't get into that school.

All I know is that getting into the Univ of Idaho is a hell of a lot harder that for some poor black kid to get into Columbia and Harvard Law Schools.

It's a no brainer.....if you have any intelligence at all then you have to vote for McCain and Palin. Their education and experience is unparalled.

Barak and his law degrees and being president of the Harvard Law Review, 8 years in the Illinois Senate, and 4 years as a United States Senator.

And Biden.....his resume is a joke.
Political Science degree from the University of Delaware, Doctorate of Law from Syracuse University. 36 years as a United States Senator of which 12 years were spent as the Chairman of the United States Senate Judicary Committe until 1997 when he became Chairman of the United States Foreign Relations Committe.

I can't see where Obama or Biden have any relevant experience to be President. What idiot can't see that.....


Vote Obama/Biden..............don't be an idiot.

Posted by: I Love My Jewish Friends | September 2, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

COMMON SENSE -

That was excellent, but the people you need to reach don't dig sarcasm. Just wait.

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Baraka Hussain Obama bin Biden

Democratic vice-presidential candidate Joe Biden was quoted Monday as telling senior Israeli officials behind closed doors that the Jewish state will have to reconcile itself to a nuclear Iran.

From Haaretz, Israel's leading newspaper comes word that Slow Joe Biden has previewed the Obama foreign policy to a stunned Israeli military.

Posted by: I love my Jewish friends | September 2, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

That woman belongs home taking care of her babies. A woman cannot handle the VP job AND be a mother.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: DeLeon | September 2, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I find if hard to believe people are questioning Sarah Palin and John McCains credentials.

As the son of an Admiral and Grandson of and Admiral John McCain was under enormous pressure to do well at the naval academy. How else could you explain all of his stellar acomplishments while finishing 894th out of a class of 899?

As for Sarah. C'mon people. She ran a town the size of a large high school. Do you know how hard that is? So what if every year as mayor she ended the year in a budget deficit. We do it as a country practically every year. From 1980 to 2008 this country had only 5 years of budget surplus.....1996 through 2001. See.....no big deal.

And what about after she was voted out of office. She was the head of the Alaska Oil Conservation Commission. Do you know how hard it is to manage a department with 22 people. It was so tough that out of the 22 employees in the entire organization 10 of them have the title of adminstrative assistant. I gleaned this info from their own website.

And thank god she's white and had connections.....how else can you explain how she managed to get a BS in Journalism from the University of Idaho. If your dad isn't a congressman or made a donation that built a new dormatory then you can't get into that school.

All I know is that getting into the Univ of Idaho is a hell of a lot harder that for some poor black kid to get into Columbia and Harvard Law Schools.

It's a no brainer.....if you have any intelligence at all then you have to vote for McCain and Palin. Their education and experience is unparalled.

Barak and his law degrees and being president of the Harvard Law Review, 8 years in the Illinois Senate, and 4 years as a United States Senator.

And Biden.....his resume is a joke.
Political Science degree from the University of Delaware, Doctorate of Law from Syracuse University. 36 years as a United States Senator of which 12 years were spent as the Chairman of the United States Senate Judicary Committe until 1997 when he became Chairman of the United States Foreign Relations Committe.

I can't see where Obama or Biden have any relevant experience to be President. What idiot can't see that.....


Vote Obama/Biden..............don't be an idiot.

Posted by: COMMON SENSE | September 2, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a TRAIN WRECK that can and will sink McCain. The cover of US Magazine has her face on it with the headline "scandals and lies". This is a nightmare for Republicans and the media is after her with flaming torches.

Posted by: Ryan Healey | September 2, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

THAT is a frightening picture!

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

WOW...

Why isn't anyone pointing out that she was a leader in an independent party that was trying to get Alaska to secede from the Union?

When Mrs. Obama said she was proud of her country for the first time, the republicans jumped all over that questioning her loyalty as an amercian. Seeeet this gal is trying to divide the United States and no one says a word, just focus on the kid...believe me there is a lot more to focus on that is far more damaging and everyone is ignoring the more important things.

Screw her daughter...oops someone already took care of that.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

To the poster who posted "McCain's selection of Palin was BRILLIANT.

We're Dems and we're voting McCain because of Palin.

Posted by: Dems now voting McCain | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM"

You might be dims but you are not Dems. Really.

Posted by: Paul Stewart | September 2, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Liberal Women will not help Sara Palin. Hillary supporters (women) are fearful of Obama and the media. After all, they got their tails kicked by the networks, CNN, and the fish-wrappers when they went up against Obama in the primaries - they understand that women only have the power granted them by the liberal media. Obama doesn't have to do a thing, the media have been in the tank for the tall black man from the start.
Liberal women must sit down and take their medicine. No woman in the White House - that includes Palin.
I want to see ten liberal males confirm this message on this blog within 15 minutes! Go!!!

Posted by: Matoosa Ferrara | September 2, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

palin is history end of the week otherwise the GOP is dead in the water come November.

Posted by: palin is white trash | September 2, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Why is a sitting governor NOT asking her attorney general to charge Levi with statutory rape? It's not a matter of 'choice' for her, it's the law she's sworn to uphold.

Posted by: seaweb | September 2, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Lots o' window dressing in that photo. Not much content.

Posted by: BB | September 2, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

It gets better. She was a longtime member of the AIP (Alaska Independence Party) an Alaska Secessionist, White Supremacist Party... that believes that the United States is the enemy of Alaska. She even addressed their convention in 2007. The AIP has ties t Neo-KKK groups. Google Palin, Alaska Independence Party. It's Unreal. McShame is a senile idiot.

Posted by: Chuck | September 2, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Intelligent lady sounds like a backwoods boner lover!

Posted by: POWERHOUND | September 2, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I volunteered for an organization for children with disabilities in the 4th largest city in American. The parents were very involved in the organization and with their handicapped children; the children were beautiful. The volunteers loved the children. Anyone who says these children should have been aborted can go to hell and probably will.

Posted by: Millie | September 2, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Well thank god for Mike. I hadn't been lectured at today.

4 more years of Bush please - he seems like a regular guy.

Posted by: Kevin | September 2, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

I am from Texas and I am outraged!

Posted by: Molly Waters | September 2, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Teens get pregnant all the time; it has always been that way. What's the big deal? When I was in the 12th grade in a small town the most popular and nicest girls in class became pregnant, went on to marry the father of her child, and another of my friends got pregnant at 17; all her friends went to her church wedding (including me) and she was definitely expecting. At my 50th high school reunion, I saw these two gals, still happily married with several children and grandchildren. No one made a big deal out of this then. Have we gotten so evil that we must criticise two young people who love each other but made a mistake in getting pregnant before talking to the preacher? It looks like people in America have become very critical and, yes, evil in their feelings ... and I could care which political party you belong to. Leave this family alone and may God bless and watch over them.

Posted by: Intelligent Lady | September 2, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

is SARAH Palin's pregnancy that is the REAL story here, the story that the GOP is TRYING to kill. Please don't let them, it's too important!!!

The day Trig Palin was born, Sarah Palin was in Texas. She knew she was in labor, but LIED to an airline so that she could board an 8-hour flight to Alaska, because she wanted her son to be born in her home state, rather than where the water actually broke and labor began.

No compelling medical reason to avoid going immediately to the nearest hospital, just didn't want a Texan baby. Literally, that is her explanation. I am not making this up, though I wish I was. [Where is the outrage from the Texans reading this? The woman would rather her baby DIED than be born in Texas!]

She didn't ask an OB/GYN for advice before doing this, she just spoke on the phone to her family doctor, and then decided she "felt comfortable" that she wasn't in "active labor," so it was OK to put off getting medical care for another eight hours.

Her amniotic fluid was leaking, and her unborn child had no fetal heart monitor to sense whether or not the umbilical cord was strangling him as the fluid level in the womb dropped and he sank lower and lower. No protections against infection were taken. It is an absolute miracle that Trig survived that 8-hour flight from Texas to Alaska.

Trig Palin was in the process of being born, clearly a fully formed human being by even the most extreme definitions, and he needed immediate medical attention that his mother neglected to get for him. Are we supposed to sweep this neglect under the rug because, by mere chance, he survived it?

Republican operatives keep suggesting that focusing on these facts is somehow "sexist," because it relates to Governor Palin's private medical matters. I would ask them, how many babies should a person be allowed to deliberately put in danger of strangling in the womb before it is okay to talk about their judgment?

Someone should check Texas laws on parents refusing medical attention for their children in potentially life-threatening conditions. Ms. Palin could very well be in danger of yet another indictment for this act of negligence that could have killed both Trig and herself.

I don't know, to me that seems like kind of a big story.

Posted by: RachelB | September 2, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

That was a fake JakeD at 7:35 PM.

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Republicans are trying to tell us Palin was a good choice just makes me distrust them even more. The fact that neo-cons like Kristol and the goofballs at Faux News are talking her up just makes me all the more concerned. No way I'm voting for McCain now. There's no way I want a complete world affairs neophyte in charge of our nukes!

Posted by: jay | September 2, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Kwaayesnama makes a good point which the media hasn't made yet.

That conference was to see VP candidates and Palin wasn't on the list - not even being considered.

It adds more credibility to the "last minute, rash decision just to spite Bush cause he couldn't had lieberman story"

By the way what does that say about his ability to make change - can't even get his own party to agree on his first choice VP.

Posted by: Harry | September 2, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

People seriously, regurgitating partial reports from your favorite party line media outlet does not make you a political person, and if this is as shallow as you are willing to go to find the truth about the candidates you really should not be able to vote.

The thing that sucks about campaign time is that there is zero supporting evidence needed to backup many of the jacked up claims on both sides, because they count on mindless idiots like yourselves forwarding their half truths an agendas along as gospel before half of the crap can be disproved.

This applies to both sides, I really don't care who you people vote for, just try to form your own opinion based on your own research... MSNBC and CNN for you left wing nuts is not the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so stop quoting them, same goes for FOX and you right wing nuts...

For god sakes, if you've never worked in corporate america, are still in school, or don't have a family, please stop tossing in your 2 cents about the economy and Palin's children... you simply have no idea what you are talking about and how the real world works.

fact: oil is necessary, until a viable and abundant alternative is readily availble... not pursuing this in a limited capacity while seeking alternatives is just plain stupid.

fact: increasing taxes on Corporate America will not help the lower and middle class. Corporate America will simply trim enough jobs off their payroll to offset the tax. Rich people will stay rich, poor people will become poorer.

fact: the "green collar" jobs of building a wind farm here can be outsourced... the resources will be mined here, the parts will be built in other countries and shipped back for assembly, the engineering jobs will go to people working on Visa's, and the labor of putting it all together will be left anyone willing to work for minimum wage or under the table....

fact: Kids will defy their parents, no matter how strict or how important they are, that's just what kids do... I certainly did and one of mine was special forces..

Posted by: Mike | September 2, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Everybody seems to have everything figured out here. No need reading any further material related to the race. How come none of the pundits know as much as you people? The world's problems would be solved if we just listened more to bloggers.

Posted by: Steve | September 2, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

J.C - excellent point

Posted by: Greg | September 2, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I wish we won the Civil War!

Then I could keep women and black slaves.

And we could still do our moms and sisters.

Posted by: Tru Grit | September 2, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

I love to swallow jizum. I love Obama!

Posted by: Tru Grit | September 2, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me it's true that McCain wanted Liberman, my bad.

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I love to do my mom.

Posted by: "Tru Grit" | September 2, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

gettyleigh2112 - Theres a longer list now and it grows by the day. From the weeks headlines.

Troopergate... Preparedness Questioned... Defense Role Negated... Almost Recalled... No Iraq Focus... Ted Steven's Scandal... Secessionist Party... Earmarks Beneficiary... Pregnant Daughter... Abramoff Connection... Corruption Investigation... Church And State...plus McCain last minute panic , original choice, bush problem

Now if a Democrat had that list against them how would you react?
By the way the press is not liberal anymore.


Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I suckalotacocks

Posted by: Tru Grit | September 2, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

This soap opera just goes on and on. Now we hear about a pregnant, drinking 17 year old - have we heard enough yet? This was a horrendous choice; clearly not researched. She needs to bow out gracefully NOW. They wanted the vote of Hillary supporters (like me) and they are NOT going to get it!

Posted by: Caroline | September 2, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm jus a po nig-r

Posted by: derak | September 2, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Tru Grit,
I was gonna comment, but apparently you are a fake person. I hope the washington post removes your sick comments.

Posted by: derak | September 2, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

The Enquirer is teasing a big story about the Palin family in their latest issue, after nailing the Edwards thing ... who knows ?

Posted by: PatD | September 2, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

I love anal sex.

Posted by: True Grit | September 2, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't anybody talk about those disgruntled Mitt Romney supporters who feel that he deserved to be VP and help McCain on his economic defeciency. Too bad that the Republican coup leaders chose an marginal evangelical instead of competent Mormon. Mitt Romney was pushed out because he is a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints. Is that our Republcian party? Lieberman was disallowed as McCain's VP choice because he is a Jew. Is that our Republican party?

Posted by: Walter | September 2, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Ru Paul.

Posted by: still trippin | September 2, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

America, please don't let McCain and Palin ruin our lives - like they did to Bristol.

Posted by: cockblocker | September 2, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse


Why don't we value education in this country?!?!?

We all talk about experience but having a job for a long time does not always increase wisdom. Most people do not learn from experience alone.

The oath of office is - to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Who knows the most about the Constitution?

Shouldn't these candidates have to take a class or two covering the Constitution?

Posted by: Teacher | September 2, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

derak

How would you know? With a name like that, sounds like you be one of thwem inbreds. Your momma didn't know how to spell!

LOL

Posted by: True Grit | September 2, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I wish John McCain would croak so Sarah could be president. That would rock. We are women, hear us rar! Yes we will win because there are more of women like me than there are people like you gay loving tree hugging abortion having democrits!

Sara Palin and Trig for PResident!


"Hey you guysss!" - sloth

Posted by: Courtney Comario | September 2, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

These are uncertain times.
The economy is a Ball-Buster
The Surge is flaccid

But wait! Now there's Palin's Condoms for a Country First you can believe it!!!

Palin's condoms

-for the elitist eskimo
-won't leave a bitter taste in your mouth
-When you just want to close the deal

Remember Palin's Condoms: Don't ruin your life like Bristol


Posted by: find eskomo wifes on craigslist | September 2, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"That conveniently overlooks that she is the governor of Alaska and served on that state's oil and gas commission. Two jobs ago Obama was a community organizer. See how that works?"

Exactly. If you want puppets of the oil industry in the White House again, if having an economic gun held to your family's head by these people is your idea of the American dream, then vote for the oil and gas commissioner and the man who chose her.

If you want someone who gave up certain fame and fortune as a high-powered Harvard lawyer in order to work with communities to solve their problems, then you'll vote for Obama.

Thanks for pointing that out for everyone.

Posted by: trippin | September 2, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

In 100 years people will be reading how old man McCain picked this bimbo and lost the election because of it...and they'll laugh.

Posted by: Carrie | September 2, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

go somewhere else JakeD. Homo.

Posted by: The Buzzer | September 2, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Palin has your liberal butts scared silly or you wouldn't be working so hard to discredit her!

Posted by: Spyder | September 2, 2008 6:24 PM

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pretty much. otherwise they wouldn't bother. Obama's claim that he has more experience because of the 18 months of managing his campaign is pretty stupid.

Posted by: kws | September 2, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure all the "inbreds" in this country vote Republican.

Posted by: derak | September 2, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Being mayor of a 5000 person town of redneck idiots is HUGE experience.

Face it. Palin is a bubble headed bimbo.

Posted by: Jay | September 2, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

McCain's actual VP pick of Lieberman or Tom Ridge were over ridden by the evangelicals running his campaign. The only reason that Palin was forced onto McCain as his running mate is that she is one of the few evangelical Christian Republican office holders that wasn't involved in some scandal. Oops, yes she does have her own scandals both political and moral. John McCain's handlers disallowed any of the more competent VP picks because they were Jewish, Mormon, or not the right kind of Christian. McCain wasn't allowed to chose his own VP, and gave in to the extremists. Too bad that the Republican party doesn't accept Jews, Mormons, or mainstream Christians, because they might get more competent leaders.

Posted by: Rodney | September 2, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, we have a GOP "Delegate" AND multiple Ron Paul supporters all posting at the same time?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin can be VP, I want to be Secretary of State. I too have a retarded baby (seriously - I do, so I can call it retarded) and do not practice safe sex. Actually, I like impregnating young girls while passing along my HIV! Plus I love guns and hate aliens and arabs.

I'd be a perfect fit.

Posted by: Post This | September 2, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

To all of you inbreds(Most of you Democrats and gorilla boy lovers), it was your mothers and fathers that started this gene pool problem that you continue to carry on. Stop sleeping with your family members. It is interfering with your sanity!

Posted by: True Grit | September 2, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

She's a creationist for christ's sake.

Posted by: Jesus | September 2, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

LETS HEAR IT......All for Ron Paul, just type in Ron Paul

Posted by: COME ON!! | September 2, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Pencil in Ron Paul

Posted by: McCain | September 2, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

So who's baby is it really? I read that the eskimos share their wifes.

Posted by: Palin is fair game | September 2, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: ron | September 2, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm a delegate here at the convention in St. Paul and taking a break. I can tell you that sentiment is starting to grow to have Palin removed from the ticket.

Stay tuned...

Posted by: Delegate CA | September 2, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Come on people. Leave me alone. I just want to VP!

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 2, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

white eskimo trash for president

Posted by: PALIN | September 2, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I am gay.

Posted by: buzzer | September 2, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Great videos, I haven't seen those about Ron Paul...I'm penciling him

Posted by: I'lll vote ron | September 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

trippin:

Do you have a source for your claim "McCain wanted Lieberman"?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Miguel:

Go eat some refried beans you wetback!

Posted by: Mort | September 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Nobody in this state likes Palin. She's not entirely truthful about her record and the investigation of TrooperGate. She's spinning facts and her mother-in-law wouldn't even vote for her and except for the official family portrait, her oldest son refuses to be seen or photographed with her.

Posted by: Travis in Alaska | September 2, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

"BTW, how do you justify a right to life supporter being a hunter and killer of other living species also supposedly created by that same God?"

There is nothing about hunting and fishing that conflicts with Christianity (or any of the other major religions based on Abraham's covenant) or being a "right to life supporter". The latter is about opposing the killing the unborn via abortion. If you had ever read the Bible, you will find that many of the characters hunted and/or fished. In Genesis you will find that God gave Adam dominion over the earth. It has only been within the last 50 years or so that animal rights nutcases have begun acting as if it was abnormal behavior. Everyone else considers it to be normal human behavior. It is the ultimate organic meal and is probably better for you than anything that goes through the processed food industry today.

Posted by: kws | September 2, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

How many executive decisions does a governor of Alaska make each day that warrant any explanation of her being able to lead this country if need be, and does this give credibility in her expereince to do so? Obama is an Ivy League educated professional who reached the highest level he could in his academic role. He is a professor of law, not an english major from Big Sky. Last time I looked our country is run by laws - in our bills, our agreements with other countries, in the interpretation of our constitution and so on. On this point alone and aside from all other conjecture, she is way out of league here. There are better suited women to do this job.The mere fact of wanting any woman for the sake of just being a woman is sad. Just look at the justifications for her legitmacy and you'll find your answer.Look what has happened over the last eight years when people voted for anyone but Clintonesque just for the sake of it. We are in the mess we're in because of the inability to excercise proper judgment and reasoning. More of the same headed our way with this ticket should it happen.....

Posted by: jameo | September 2, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

McHasting's shooting star ends up shooting blanks.

I bet the GOP are having a panic attack field day everytime they do a google search on Palin.

I bet not one positive remark about Palin will be returned under any searches.

Posted by: gop going downhill | September 2, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

If it had been Chelsea pregnant and unwed at 17, just how do you suppose the right wing religious/Rupublican conservative would have reacted? How much support do think they would have given Hillary Clinton if she had a developmentally disabled infant at home while she was conduting a national campaign? The hypocrasy is breathtaking. The fact that McCain says Palin is qualified to step in as President if need be, but Obama is not, is more vivid proof of the meaninglessness of that argument.

That McCain thinks he will win Hillary supporters because Palin is female tells you he thinks women in general are stupid.

Posted by: Jazz | September 2, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain is falling fast in the polls and picked Palin in Panic Mode!!! This is a decision that he'll rue to his grave (next year)!!

Posted by: Stoz | September 2, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

The liberal media have launched an offensive against McCain's vice presidential running mate Sarah Palin. The New York Times suggested Palin wasn't properly vetted. ABC News' Matt Dowd is saying that Republican delegates are turning on Palin. I doubt that very much--it appears that just the opposite is happening--Republicans are rallying around Palin the face of this controversy contrived by the liberal media.

Let's take a look at the left's bill of particulars against Sarah Palin, gleaned from The New York Times:

1) Her seventeen year-old daughter is pregnant.

That this is being dwelled on by the media is shameful. It is a nonstory, as http://www.notwrightforamerica.com/ covered earlier and even Obama says.

2) Palin's husband was arrested for DUI 22 years ago.

That this is brought up is la joke--how many members of Congress have gotten DUIs? And this happened when Mr. Palin was in his early twenties.

3) Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the mid-90's, and they support a vote on whether Alaska should secede from the Union.

Alaska ain't New York City, and the politics there are much different than they are in the lower 48. I can only imagine how those who are truly living on the Last Frontier feel about being bossed around by people like Nancy Pelosi. But regardless, a two year membership in a party with a goofy secessionist plank is going to generate a collective yawn from the American public. Ironically, her voters registration card was released and this was proven to be another rumor.

4) Palin has hired a private lawyer to defend her "in an Alaska legislative ethics investigation into whether she abused her power in dismissing the state’s public safety commissioner." (That quote from the New York Times.)

It's funny, I don't remember the media making a big deal of it the countless times the Clintons hired private counsel to defend them in various scandals. And this also appears to be erroneous--the state hired the lawyer, not Palin.

Regardless, on the surface this last one is the most serious charge against Palin, but it falls apart even under mild scrutiny.

The essence of this matter is that Palin's staff is alleged to have pressured Alaska's Department of Public Safety Commissioner to fire a state trooper, and ultimately fired the Public Safety Commissioner when he did not do so. This state trooper was involved in a nasty custody fight with the Governor's sister.

In the first instance this "ethics" investigation is being led by Senator Hollis French, a Democrat and a Massachusetts born, Cornell educated lawyer who advocates socialized medicine. In other words, a liberal.

The other thing you won't get from the liberal media is that this Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan was appointed by Palin and according to the Anchorage Daily News, "she had a right to fire him for any reason." This will shock you, but that important detail was left out of the Times story. But if this is an investigation into whether Palin abused her power by firing Monegan, as the Times says, the investigation should be over already--she had the legal right to do what she did. Hollis French, as a liberal lawyer, should know this. That the investigation continues shows that it is nothing but a partisan witch hunt.

This sounds just like the selective outrage at Bush's dismissal of a handful of US Attorneys when the media barely made a peep when Bill Clinton fired every sitting US Attorney.

And here's another little tidbit that The New York Times does not want you to know about, and in fact left out of their story--the trooper who Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan refused to fire threatened to kill Governor Palin's father if he got a lawyer for his daughter in the custody fight. And then the trooper lied about this in an internal investigation.

This "ethics" witch hunt reflects poorly on the liberal lawyer who is leading it, and the liberal, cheerleading media, not Palin.

It's time for McCain to stand up and denounce this anti-Palin garbage dump. All he needs to say is that it has been clear from the start that the media are in love with Obama, and their anti-Palin feeding frenzy is just a part of their efforts to elect him. And Palin's 17 year-old daughter Bristol is nothing but collateral damage to the liberal media, who have pulled out all the stops for Obama.

And it's time for conservatives to rally around Palin. McCain could have picked Mother Theresa and the liberal media still would have found a way to savage her.

Posted by: gettyleigh | September 2, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain was the Republican nominee countless months ago. Since then I have wondered who he would pick for VP. I also wondered what is taking him so long, doesn't he know what he wants to bring to the country in terms of a #2 for his leadership team. I suppose I am naive. I thought that a candidate running for the highest office of this land could make his decision for VP without waiting to see "what will the other guy do". Announcing the selection of a woman VP after watching to see how things went down at the Democratic convention makes me doubt the "Leadership" aspect of this nominee. This choice seems to be about reacting, following and making a political calculation. Bummer. I assumed he would choose his running mate considering the best interest of the country, not laze around and react to what is happening in the other camp. How does that reflect leadership?

Small wonder I am an independent. It appears that both parties care more about the continued life of "their" party and control of all the marbles by their party than welfare of the nation as a whole. The partisan vitriol in comments to stories abut the candidates reflects the worst of America.

I suppose I want too much, candidates that actually want to govern for the good of all Americans not just the benefit of those who would vote for them, thoughtful discourse on ideas without name calling, nicknames and spurious, distracting attacks. Perhaps, even in my nuttiest moments I would like people to actually listen to other points of view.

Our political process, those that control it, those that report it, those that manipulate it and those that rabidly tear up others in it, is sad, sad, sad.

I going to go make dinner for my kids now. Much more meaningful and rewarding than dancing around in this circus.

Posted by: news | September 2, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm voting for Ron. This is the newest video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOhk0JeoZtE

Posted by: James | September 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse


McCain has never been governor of any state so he should become Palin's VP (if her experience counts as much as McCain says).

Posted by: Joe | September 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Remove the comment from McSame about killing the Palin baby NOW!!!!

Posted by: McLame | September 2, 2008 6:28 PM
if palin really were vice presidential material, capable of putting the country first, then she would be a responsible parent and drive that precocious 17 year-old of hers down to the nearest family planning clinic for a legal abortion.
while she's at it, i would hope that palin also would suck that 5 month-old down syndrome kid into a vaccuum tube where he will be torn limb from limb and die (eventually, at least). i'm saying that for the kid's sake, of course. i just don't want him to have a terrible life.

Posted by: Ruth | September 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse


You PUMAs go ahead and vote for Obama -- the man who tries to demean Palin's accomplishments by unfavorably comparing his campaign today to her stint as mayor of Wasilla six years ago.

That conveniently overlooks that she is the governor of Alaska and served on that state's oil and gas commission.

Two jobs ago Obama was a community organizer. See how that works?

Posted by: Miguel | September 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

We need to encourage McCain to keep Palin on the ticket. This is ticket that can be beat easily.

Posted by: Terry | September 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

McCain didn't pick Palin: Dobson, Hagee, Parsley, and their cadre of Bible-wielding far right lunatics did. McCain wanted Lieberman. Oy vey!

The wacko American Taliban only vetted her opinion on the typical littany of Christo-fascist issues, and didn't bother to even ask whether or not her unwed daughter was pregnant. What could be a more mainstream role model for the kids of busy prefessional adults than Britney's sister?

And of course with criminal abuse of power a cornerstone of Christo-fascist dictatorial modus operandi, they didn't just overlook her little plot for family revenge, they gave her credit for having some chutzpah in trying to get away with it.

Oopsie! Let's see if they want a "do over." I doubt it -- if anything, these freakazoids would prefer a do-over for the top spot, not Palin.

Posted by: trippin | September 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm a lifelong Republican but will be voting Obama this election. Palin and the old man are just too dangerous for our country!!

Posted by: Jay | September 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

This is history!

Finally, one of us from Alaska!

Unfortunately...

THE WRONG ONE!

Posted by: ralph from Alaska | September 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Why are the Statutory age laws in republican states much lower than national average? Is it really that hard to find some cooter in the sticks?

Posted by: RN going downhill | September 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Geezus...never before have I ever been witness to more-ignorant remarks than what I've read above (few exceptions, of course). First, the suggestion of Palin's daughter having an abortion then having the down-syndrome sufferer murdered...wow. I can't believe that came from a person, especially an American citizen. Secondly, McCain didn't just pick Palin as a *panic-decision*, as she was questioned just like the rest of the candidates for VP. Finally, I have to question anyone's belief that Barrack Obama is ready for the Presidential Office. To be President is not only to be open-minded and willing to speak with foreign nations in a diplomatic matter (which I believe that he does seem quite capable to do). The President *must* have experience in government (not necessarily Federal, by the way). You have to admit that Palin *does* have more time in government than Obama. I'm not saying that makes her smarter, but it *does* make her more experienced (definition of the word *experience*). On a final note, I don't want either one to be President. I believe that McCain is more of a warmonger than Bush *ever* was, but I think that Obama's economic plan is ridiculous. C'mon, 2 trillion dollars spending for more government institutions? We need LESS government, not more. I believe Jesse Ventura said it best when he said, "I think there should be a choice on the ballot of any electoral voting process, local to federal, that allows us [American voters] to choose 'None of the Above'." Let the message be "Offer us something else. We're tired of the same cut-and-dry politicians you keep offering us". Vote for who will bring legitimacy to the the office. Neither will do it in this case. *Sigh* I hate politics. :P

Posted by: lightindarkness | September 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

"gorgeous 17 year old fellow high school student" Actually a self proclaimed "redneck" lowlife.

Posted by: Allen | September 2, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Or this one too:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q&feature=related

VOTE RON PAUL

Posted by: GO RON | September 2, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Another Acronym for PUMA’s

Pathetically Ugly Mothers Association!

Posted by: Laugh A Little | September 2, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Latest Gallup poll has Obama at 50% to McCain's 43%.

Posted by: Bill | September 2, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Why is the Statutory Rape law much lower in age in the blue states?

Posted by: gop really sucks | September 2, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a dunce.

I don't want another president who makes hasty, reckless decisions that turn into disasters.

Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain's selection of Gov. Palin was intriguing but ultimately reckless. Of all the Republicans he had to choose from he comes up with this? The man is 72 years old and has had cancer. I guess he felt something in his gut when he picked her. I think a lot of Americans have seen enough of a President who leads from his gut. I imagine he picked her for four reasons.

1) To appease the extreme religious right.
2) Hoping to pick off disgruntled Hillary supporters.
3) He feels she thinks like him on corruption.
4) She's young and hopefully would peel some young voters from Obama.

I don't think he needed to appease the religious right, They were not going anywhere, they were never going to vote for Obama. He picked the wrong women for true Hilary supporters, she is way too far right. Corruption fighting is always good, but an issue that will not really do much to move the people to vote for them. I don't think she will have the appeal to the youth as Senator Obama has had. Republicans I have talked too who are not part of the religious right are very disappointed in his selection. In 2000 John McCain wanted to re imagine his party and had some progressive ideas. The religious right blocked his way. Now the 2008 McCain is letting the Republican party and the religious right mold him to their extreme views. Not quite the maverick everyone thought he was.

Posted by: Jackwolf | September 2, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

OK...

so now, all together, let's all feel sorry for Palin because she is not right for the job and therefore being called on it.

Instead, you should be very angry at McCain for dragging her in where she does not belong. Feeling sorry is no reason she should be voted in. What is this...the Jerry Springer show?

Posted by: jamie | September 2, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

McInsane needs to pull Palin from the ticket. She's a disgrace and her selection is a blatantly transparent political stunt. They say that your choice of VP is your first Presidential decision. Heckuva Job, John. He literally could have randomly picked just about any other breathing human in the U.S. (and some animals) and done a lot better.

Posted by: Allen | September 2, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Danny | September 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

PUMA Pat

Acronym for Plump Ugly Mothers Association!

Posted by: Laugh a Little | September 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I loved Hillary but it's Obama now for me!! SAY NO TO MCSAME AND BUBBLE BRAIN!!

Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

How do you justify this with this? How do you do that? This that or the other. Humans are flawed therefore anything made or touched by humans can be flawed. If you cant accept other people for their flaws you will never accept your own. Stop pointing the finger at everyone else and go look at yourself in the mirror and see what you can do to change america.

Posted by: screw politics | September 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I am switching from democrat to republican. The republicans have become to more support my values as a mother and a citizen. Shame on those who attack a woman just becAUSE she has had a daughter who got pregnant.

Posted by: Sarah Foster | September 2, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

None of these lurid aspersions cast on Sarah Palin compare to Barack Obama's negatives, from William Ayers to Rev. Wright and from Tony Rezko helping Obama buy his house while under indictment to voting "present" 130 times as a state senator.

Even Barack Obama's mother getting knocked up at 17 by an alcoholic, polygamist, already-married Kenyan who was a failed communist and abandoned them, makes Sarah Palin's pregnant 17 year old daughter look like a saint by comparison.

All of Barack Obama's negatives beat any of Sarah Palin's in terms of heinousness, by many orders of magnitude.

What are you trying to prove? That you are vigorously "vetting" (bashing) the female VP nominee while you resisted even covering the Obama negatives (and have never really covered some of them)?

By the way, Bristol Palin's boyfriend is a gorgeous 17 year old fellow high school student, not an alcoholic, polygamous Third World Muslim communist who is already married.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 2, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Dear (and I do mean dear) c***blocker-
AMNOT AMNOT AMNOT
Turn your gaydar off; it isn't working.
I'm really good friends with a (certain) Senator, so I can secretly access your trailer and make everything match and be color coordinated!
Besides, I am so Butch NO ONE can tell (except you). So that was a fluke.

PS - Call me!

Posted by: The Buzzer | September 2, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Did McCain smoke a couple of joints before the pick? If he can't make good judgment, we cannot afford to have him in the White House.

Posted by: Shuan | September 2, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

I find if hard to believe people are questioning Sarah Palin and John McCains credentials.

As the son of an Admiral and Grandson of and Admiral John McCain was under enormous pressure to do well at the naval academy. How else could you explain all of his stellar acomplishments while finishing 894th out of a class of 899?

As for Sarah. C'mon people. She ran a town the size of a large high school. Do you know how hard that is? So what if every year as mayor she ended the year in a budget deficit. We do it as a country practically every year. From 1980 to 2008 this country had only 5 years of budget surplus.....1996 through 2001. See.....no big deal.

And what about after she was voted out of office. She was the head of the Alaska Oil Conservation Commission. Do you know how hard it is to manage a department with 22 people. It was so tough that out of the 22 employees in the entire organization 10 of them have the title of adminstrative assistant. I gleaned this info from their own website.

And thank god she's white and had connections.....how else can you explain how she managed to get a BS in Journalism from the University of Idaho. If your dad isn't a congressman or made a donation that built a new dormatory then you can't get into that school.

All I know is that getting into the Univ of Idaho is a hell of a lot harder that for some poor black kid to get into Columbia and Harvard Law Schools.

It's a no brainer.....if you have any intelligence at all then you have to vote for McCain and Palin. Their education and experience is unparalled.

Barak and his law degrees and being president of the Harvard Law Review, 8 years in the Illinois Senate, and 4 years as a United States Senator.

And Biden.....his resume is a joke.
Political Science degree from the University of Delaware, Doctorate of Law from Syracuse University. 36 years as a United States Senator of which 12 years were spent as the Chairman of the United States Senate Judicary Committe until 1997 when he became Chairman of the United States Foreign Relations Committe.

I can't see where Obama or Biden have any relevant experience to be President. What idiot can't see that.....

Vote Obama/Biden..............don't be an idiot.

Posted by: GED GETS YOU SUPREME COURT NOMINEE | September 2, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Being one of the original PUMAs, I can tell you that hell will have to freeze over before I vote for McCain. Palin simply was a poor, poor choice.

OBAMA '08!!

Posted by: Nancy | September 2, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I highly recommend that you go to the following site (University of Alaska, Fairbanks) and listen to Joe Volger directly.

This is the man that Sarah Palin chose to follow, the party that she chose to join for two years and as recently as this year congratulated for their "good work".

The tapes are frightening. There is no way on Gods Green Earth that McCain has heard these tapes.

After listening, judge for yourself if Sarah Palin is fit to be the Vice President of the United States.

http://uaf-db.uaf.edu/jukebox/yuch/htm/jvog.htm

Posted by: Richard18 | September 2, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm conservative and there's no way I'll vote for McCain. I'll be voting for Bob Barr.

Posted by: Jason | September 2, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

The Muckrackers are grasping at straws. I would take Sara Baracuda as VP rather than Obama as President, who wants a 45% Death Tax and consorts with terrorists, hate mongers and felons.

Posted by: AZITGuy | September 2, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

START THE REVOLUTION. RON PAUL IN 2008

Posted by: Start the revolution | September 2, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I've spoken with about 15 of my female friends who all say they can't believe that the McCain camp thinks all women are so stupid by nominating this extreme rightwingnut to the ticket and expecting us to all jump. I can tell you right now that this PUMA is voting for Obama and all my PUMA friends too!!

Posted by: PUMA Pat | September 2, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

This matters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iCDBIAde8

It happened in 2008. It advocates the dissolution of the USA, and Palin is for that? OUr VP choice is for the Independence of Alaska?

Thanks John "Country First" McCain.

What country are you for? Alaska, or the USA!!!!!

Posted by: derak | September 2, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin: They say I'm young and we just met
One day is hardly time to vet

McCain: Well I don't know if all that's true
'Cause you got me, and baby I got you

McCain: Babe
BOTH: I got you babe
I got you babe

Posted by: hamishdad | September 2, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

If there was any doubt, this Hillary supporter is now voting for McCain/Palin because of the sexism that is still alive in the media.

Posted by: MEDIA = Sexism | September 2, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul for me too.

Posted by: William | September 2, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Watch, McCain's next pick is Jerry Springer for VP. Can't be much worse than voting for White Eskimo Trash Palin

Posted by: McShame's Pain | September 2, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I think this is actually starting to benefit the Republicans. I have heard many of my friends(male and female), both Democrats and Republicans, saying that they were very upset they way Ms. Palin is being treated.

Some of them were Hillary supporters that said that they were definitely going to support Palin no matter what and a few others said that they could never vote Republican but are still very upset. Two of my girl friends had children at an early age and are disgusted they way the media is hammering her.

I don’t know what to think, I just wish everyone would stop!

Posted by: JoAnn M. | September 2, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Todd Palin advocates the breakup of the USA. Shameful and not unlike Tim McVeigh!!

Posted by: geezil | September 2, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

1: Did or did not Ms, Palin use her position to influence the outcome of her former brother in laws job termination?
A clear abuse of power if found to be true.

2: Did or did not Ms, Palin change her position on the infamous bridge to knowhere for political expediancy?
A clear estimation of her dishonesty if found to be true.

3: Did or did not Ms, Palin assist Mr. Ted Stevens in changing the bridge earmark from the bridge project defined to discretionary spending to then be assigned to that very same bridge project?
A clear use of semantics to cover a taxpayer fraud and cover up for personal gain.

The answers to these question will determine weather or not she is a servant of the people or another self anointed republican of the Bush school of enronomics, i.e. the Reagan Bush method of the fleecing of America and the post fraud exposure talk radio blame propaganda towards those who did the exposing.

Guilty of any one of these questions should be an automatic removal of the guilty party from any opportunity to further harm the American people.

As for the republican talking heads, they should be fined for their significant contributions to global warming via their constant outpouring of mindless hot air thereby depleting the oxygen content of the atmosphere and in so doing depriving intelligent creatures their God given right to breathe. This, of course, assumes they were created by the same God the evangelical Christians portend to believe in.

BTW, how do you justify a right to life supporter being a hunter and killer of other living species also supposedly created by that same God? Do we assume she believes her species to be superior and if so just who decided who was superior? Do we really need another republican playing God, I think not and the job is already taken!

Posted by: anOPINIONATEDsob | September 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Now that the 'baggage' Sarah Palin is carrying is being made public, the only DECENT thing she could do for the GOP is to step down and allow senile old McLame to choose a more appropriate VP running mate ...... to be on standby, should he be unable to serve as President (which most likely will happen if he keeps staring at women's A$$es during rallies.

Besides, what American actually wants a woman of such low moral instincts near the White House ??

Rather than "hitting a home run" with her selection, as Rush Limbaugh said, in fact what McCain did was STRIKE OUT !!

Posted by: gop really really sucks | September 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

It wouldn't surprise me to find out the Republican party is doing a little bit of the smearing of Gov. Palin in hopes it will be blamed on the Democrats.

Posted by: RSM | September 2, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Coming soon more about Obama's sex life. How many children does he really have? Who were his live ins when he was community actor? His Father of My Dreams impregnated his teen age mother and had two families in Kenya and one in England and at least 15 children.
Why does the press not cover Obama?

Posted by: fred douglas | September 2, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul

Posted by: Jenna | September 2, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't care about political party anymore, the clinton years to the bush years, they are all the same, partisan politics.

Ron Paul's ideas are the best we've heard. Democrat, Republican, who the hell cares anymore, these people don't care about the citizens it's how fat their own wallets get from lobbyists.

Vote Ron Paul, pencil them both out...GO RON GO!

Posted by: GO RON! | September 2, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

All that matters is when the USA actually votes for the next President and Vice President (who could at any day be the President).

You can debate all you want with your HA HA HAs.

Your candidate just blew it.

Posted by: Dr. | September 2, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

David Vargas is a retard homo.

Posted by: realist | September 2, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

who was the actual person who gave birth to Trig ???

Posted by: Richard Donaldson-Alves | September 2, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

The soap opera aspect of this year's presidential race has overwhelmed my brain matter to the point that last night I dreamed Bill was still president and the last eight years was a Saturday Night Live skit. Then I woke up...

Posted by: American Woman | September 2, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

buzzer is a homo.


you can tell.

Posted by: cockblocker | September 2, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Just who vetted this woman--Jerry Springer's producers?

At least W is only masquerading as a hillbilly-this woman's the genuine article it appears.

And anyone moaning about this woman's child being thrust into the spotlight needs to remember exactly who is at fault for that--none other than her ambition-crazed mother and Senator McCain!

We should look up to our leaders and see them as examples to follow, not wallow in their tawdry family scandals and view them as cautionary tales (and yes, I include Bill Clinton in that indictment).

Posted by: 63122mom | September 2, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Yo, Crazy America!
You are obviously a victim (grammar and spelling, at least) of outcome based education. It's a good thing for you the right to vote doesn't come with a Basic English requirement. I'm guessing you blame the "system" for all of your problems. We probably would have a better country if the people we picked as leaders were folks we could relate to. Obama is different all right; he's some kind of wine sipping, suit wearing, Harvard educated elitist. You rock, Palin! (And what can I say? Kids, huh? Mine were just luckier; certainly not smarter.)

Posted by: The Buzzer | September 2, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm voting Ron Paul

Posted by: YES FOR RON | September 2, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I hope that every woman out there who is deciding to vote for this woman realizes that she is hardcore pro life, she wants to take that choice away from you. Obviously she condones her 17 year old getting pregnant by her boyfriend out of wedlock.

I am sorry but this is not someone who I want to possibly be running this country. She cant even keep a handle on her own family what makes people think she can keep a handle on a country.

Posted by: Palin joke | September 2, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Scratch them both out, Pencil in Ron Paul 2008

Posted by: Kevin | September 2, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Have some respect people and refrain from comments about "retards" regarding Gov. Palin's children. You should be ashamed of yourselves for such hate speech - no matter who it is directed towards. Most of these comments are nothing but speculative hate - that is what is tearing this country apart: two-party politics is highly divisive and uses too much spin and propaganda.

And to the other side as well who speaks with hate about Obama - its best to do some soul searching on your end too; the above comments are directed to you too.

Posted by: David Vargas | September 2, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Hey dietz:

Unlike you, I do NOT wish that Obama's mom had aborted him. (a) he's a human, who had the moral right to live, and (b) he's an amazing guy who has accomplished a lot, though I disagree with many of his policies.

Neither, of course, should Palin brook any suggestion from liberals that she take her own daughter in for an abortion.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm penciling in Ron Paul as well. McCain's gonna croke two years into it, Obama's going to bankrupt me for god's sake.

Pencil in Ron Paul in 2008

Posted by: Dale | September 2, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I really can't beleive that "some" Americans have become so petty and vile. Really talking about driving her to an abortion clinic---do you have any morales at all, first that is not your decision, second of all I am sick and tired of everyone saying that she is a bad mother because her daughter is pregnant. GROW UP!!! Either you yourself have not had any children, or maybe you aren't a Christian!!! But either way it isn't Palin's decision, or the father's decision, it is up to the daughter and her alone. Quite frankly I don't feel this has anything to do with Palin's ability to make decisions, and I am sure that everyone that is making bad comments about her parenting skills has NEVER done anything that parents told them not too!!

Posted by: Heidi | September 2, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

None of these hyped "charges" are sufficiently serious to damage Palin's VP candidacy, true or not. But if the poor woman does survive all this it will be in spite of The Washington Post's efforts to destroy her.

Posted by: C.Nelson | September 2, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Jack Cafferty on CNN just said that Sarah Palin cannot handle the vice presidency, because world leaders are not "PTA lightweights" ... wow Jack Cafferty what a great analogy -- women don't deal with real tough men on a daily level, they just deal with PTA lightweights -- so women are not qualified to do anything in the realm of political power---- sexist CNN --Palin's nomination is really bringing out the pigs

Posted by: More Sexist Comments | September 2, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I am a liberal who will vote for Obama without thinking twice, but all of this talk about Palin's child with Down's syndrome, and how he'd be better off dead, is grotesque. If you are pro-choice -- as I certainly am -- you would ostensibly endorse the woman's electing to keep the child, even if that child was born with a sickness. An unequivocally pro-choice liberal am I, yet one who is alarmed at the fact that many on this message board and elsewhere would make Dr. Mengele exquisitely proud.

Posted by: Travis | September 2, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow what a bunch of idiots writing comments. One idiot talking about her kids being retards. This is my first time going to washington post and will be my last time. Can not believe how some are acting. Karma will come back to you all that are negative. She has more executive making decisions than Obama the part time senator. His speech wanting change what a croc of you know what. Picks a VP who has been in the white house since 1972. What a change he will be. Remember a lot of this mess we are in are also on his behalf you half whitted idiots.

Posted by: john | September 2, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dr:

That kind of argmument would earn you a big fat "D" in any debate class. Hey, but keep trying!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA

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To "Jaked" and all the rest defending Palin:

You obviously don't get it.

Your candidate just BLEW IT. Look around.

This is much bigger than he ever was.

It is over...slowly, and will be the main reason he looses the election.

His first executive decision is a DISASTER.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Hey Brian, there's a thing called Spell Check. Use it!

Hey Please Keep It Up, Democrats are just taking a page from the Republican election handbook. Smear first, worry about it later, if at all.

Posted by: Matt | September 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul, pencil him

Posted by: Ashley | September 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Hey Brian, there's a thing called Spell Check. Use it!

Hey Please Keep It Up, Democrats are just taking a page from the Republican election handbook. Smear first, worry about it later, if at all.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Ron Paul 2008

Posted by: Jerry | September 2, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I suspect that most of the people trying so desperately to find something (real) to criticize about Palin are young, since almost all of the women I know above the age of 22 are excited that, for only the 2nd time since 1776, a woman finally has a realistic chance of reaching the White House.

Kids -- even young women -- tend not to know about gender discrimination like working women and moms do.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

re the post by wolf that reads in part, "In all fairness, I would like to add, that the issues surrounding her daughter's pregnancy are great for stimulating conversation on those topics, but are in no way representative of Palin's abilities as a leader," I beg to differ. If Palin can't control her children, she's not fit to serve as Vice President of the U.S. Her kids should have all been apprised: "You are the children of the Governor of the State of Alaska. As such, it is your duty to bring home grades that qualify you for dean's list. You will go to top universities. You will bring honor on the family and the office of governor. If you bring shame on the name Palin or on the office of Governor of the State of Alaska, I will kick your butts into the streets and you will fend for yourselves."

So what did Gov. Palin do? She set the bar so low, a pregnant teen could get over it.

Some readers may see a heartwarming story; I see abject failure of leadership. Palin wants to come out of this appearing to be a working-woman heroine. I'm not buying. The position she's applying for is too important to risk it on a soap opera queen. McCain needs to re-think his pick for veep.

Posted by: tom | September 2, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

To "Jaked" and all the rest defending Palin:

You obviously don't get it.

Your candidate just BLEW IT. Look around.

This is much bigger than he ever was.

It is over...slowly, and will be the main reason he looses the election.

His first executive decision is a DISASTER.

Posted by: Dr. | September 2, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe how insensitve some of you crazy left wing idiots truly are. You want Palin to run her 17, almost 18 year old daughter down to the abortion clinic? I wish Obama's mom (who was 18! when she gave birth to little Barack), did the same thing with him so that I would not have to hear about how he is the second coming.

Posted by: dietz | September 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

zenobia1:

Was she "preaching" that at age 18? Perhaps you've heard of these new things called AA too, where former drunks "preach" being sober?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul 2008

Posted by: Sandy | September 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin hasn't gone "private" to prepare for her speech. Palin has gone "private" because there are some very serious questions about her background that she can't answer right now.

For example, her membership in the anti American militia group. Her speech to the group available on the net indicates she was a member. He handlers have denied however. A point blank question from a reporter of "Were you a member" might illicit a "No" that would come back to haunt her.

People who are clean don't hide from the press the way Palin is now hiding from the press. Palin could now get unlimited coverage and this could do her a world of good right now if she did not have something to hide.

Posted by: MorganaLeFay | September 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul 2008

Posted by: Ahmid | September 2, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul 2008

Posted by: bill | September 2, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I am a register democrat, but have we have forgotten John Edwards "telenovela"? I think he is more responsible than Sarah Palin! I cant believe people have made up their minds before the campaign has just started!

Posted by: Humberto Capiro | September 2, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul 2008

Posted by: ron | September 2, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

why were the comments cut off?

Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

democrats keep this up with the hypocrcy of leaving Obama's wife alone, but going after someone's kid!!!

Democrats are going to be in for a serious backlash.

Posted by: Brian | September 2, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Please everyone here keep this up and spread your words!

Again, I beg you, please, please yell at the top of your lungs. Say what you want to say as loud as you can, to everyone you can. Write as many blogs as you can. Be even more hateful and cruel than the things you are saying. Let it all out! This is wimp stuff and I know you can be much more odious than this.(for most of you, let me save you the time to look up odious. It means, hateful)

Tell everyone what you think. Say it over and over until you can’t speak another word.

Just please keep on letting everyone know what Obama stands for by your words and show and tell everyone why you and his worshipers, like you, follow him.

Thank you again so much. Keep up the excellent work. You are really making the Obama campaign and his worshipers look repulsive(again, for the vast majority of you, this means sickening).

We will surely thank you so much come November.

Posted by: Please-Keep-It-Up | September 2, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain's one and only experience in management and serious judgment was a one-year assignment as CO of a Navy Squadron in Florida. During that year, he spent most of his time screwing around on his wife. That's it. After that he became Navy Liasion to the Senate. Not only was choosing Palin a clear expression of his lack of judgment, it appears that Bristol's inability to keep her legs closed may mesh right in with McCain's set of moral values when it comes to marriage. He should have vetted Tinkerbell. He clearly didn't, and they will both pay for it. The history of this election will qualify as a dual history/archaeology thesis subject. That's how deep Obama/Biden will bury this lightweight team.

Posted by: Juan Jimenez | September 2, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait till it comes out how her husband had a gay lover.

Just wait.


(They're Republicans - you know he's either a homodon, or a perderass)

Posted by: derak | September 2, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Being the governor of Alaska (one of the least populated states in the country) is harder than being a mere Senator from Delaware (one of the lesast populated states in the country).

FACT.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 2, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Morally bankrupt Republican party is at it again. I cannot believe the hypocrisy of the right.

"We are the morally just who value family values!"

Yet here you are spouting how much you just love little old Palin and how unfair everyone is being to her.

This woman is trash. Time will show you how incompetent she really is I just hope your narrow minds will figure it out before it is to late.

Posted by: TimL | September 2, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

McSame is pandering to women and to Hillary supporters. Geez people! He just wants to get elected, that's all. Palin's a joke.

Posted by: Altec Lansing | September 2, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

why do people ask them self if they have a BarQ or a Beer with a politician the bottom line and what we should be worried about it should can they perform, I can careless about the BarQ with either one of them Just fix was broken

Posted by: CrazyAmerica | September 2, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

My personal opinion as a 51 year old working mother of 2 adult children is that both Hillary and Sara Palin are very impressive women who have managed to do and be all that women are pressured to do and be in what is still very much a man's world.

They both remind me of that old television commercial in which the woman "brings home the bacon, fries it up in the pan, and never never let's you forget you're a man." I remember how poor Janet Reno (President Clinton's very intelligent attornney general) used to catch so much flack for being single. But when a typical mother attempts to work in public service, she's criticized for leaving her family.

Women have a hard time winning no matter what they do. It's one of the reasons I want to see one, just one, make it to the White House within my lifetime.

Posted by: Mom in Missouri | September 2, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

This is his first decision as possible Presendent and he offers the the VP slot to this Soccer mom. Oh my God what was McCain thinking. He blew it!! She tried to get her Brother-in-law fired! Her daughter is pregant at 17 and they call say they are the family values party. Give me a break. You really blew it McCain!

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Here's an interesting tidbit that was reported in today's New York Times (see http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02palin.html)

"The Palins eloped on Aug. 29, 1988, and their first son, Track, was born eight months later, a fact that Maria Comella of the McCain campaign, declined to elaborate on. “They were high school sweethearts who got married and ended up having five beautiful children together,” Ms. Comella said."

So I guess when Palin preaches abstinence-only sex education, she means that *other* people should abstain from sex before marriage. There's a word for people who don't practice what they preach. MSNBC notes that during her 2006 gubernatorial race in Alaska, Palin supported abstinence-only education policies:

“Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?” the survey asked, “Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support,” Palin responded.

Posted by: zenobia1 | September 2, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

carry on my wayward sons:

When, exactly, was THE ONE "Governor" of Illinois?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

He is even more reckless

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McCain is very different from Bush.

FACT.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 2, 2008 6:30 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

So what is the age of sexual consent in the GOP?

I mean it seems like all the republican states allow young girls to marry around the age of 16.

WTF?!

Posted by: RNC sux | September 2, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

What scares me the most. Here is a woman who thinks the earth is only 5000 years old - and she wants to be the VP!

Plus two retarded kids!

Wow.

On second thought, I'm voting for this ticket because I hate America!

Down with Empire!

Jesus for President!

Lets all have unsafe sex and get aids!

(or get pregnant and have retarded kids)

Posted by: niceboy | September 2, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Right.
McCain is differnt.
Even MORE scary and off his rocker.
NO WAY can this man be President after this choice of VP. He blew it.

Posted by: dr. | September 2, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

THE EXPERIENCE MYTH OF OBAMA

I have worked with the Obama campaign on a local level since December and have met and spoken with Obama numerous times. Anyone who thinks Obama is not prepared for the office of president does not know Barack Obama. I don't think the campaign has spoken about it, although there have been articles written, maybe because it may have seemed kind of presumptive doing all this so many months before he even had the nomination, but that is not how Obama works.
Little is left to chance. So here is what the deal is:

Does Obama have the experience to be president, is he ready? It would be hard to say anyone is ready to be president, but what prepares one for the job?

Obama has been getting ready when his nomination was still no more then a dream. Obama has an advisory staff of over a 300. Most all are the top people in their fields. 4 of his staff are the top people on middle east politics in the world. He has numerous people on pretty much everything you could think of from global warming to world economics to energy and foreign policy to the military. Generals to scholars you name it, he has been working with these people for more then a year. Obama is a brilliant man, who easily knows more right now then any candidate who ever ran for the office of president. He is so up to speed it is astounding. John Mccain does not know or grasp a fraction of what Obama does. Mccain is in effect, a dinosaur, compared to Obama now. Mccain has no real practical experience or understanding in many of these areas at all. Just being in Washington for many years does not necessarily make you an expert nor knowledgeable in "Anything".
Bill Clinton said it best when he said,
"No one is really prepared to be president".
He was right and Obama understood that better then anyone long before he even began his journey for the presidency. So for over a year he has been quietly preparing. Like anything such as being a doctor or lawyer or any profession, your first introduction is academic, you go to school. Obama will by no means be learning on the job, he has been in school for more then a year. When enters office, Obama will be the most well prepared and ready president to ever walk into the white house.
He will also be surrounded by the finest staff ever assembled by any president in history.

If you do not want to vote for Barack Obama I can respect that, but by no means think he is not ready to be president. He will be the most ready man to ever win the office.

Thanks for listening
A Florida Obama worker

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Sarah Palin is Governor of Alaska. It's a siginficant position to say the least. Is she ready to lead? Who is? All candidates are by-standers until they are sworn in. Only then, can the full weight of the Oval Office can be felt.

Those old enough have fond memories of Kennedy and Regan, but were they ready to lead when they took office? No more - no less than Obama or McCain. It comes down to who your advisors are, how much you trust them,and the ability to interpret advice and information. Last you have to be willing to be the face of nation; for better or worse. Frankly, I don't know why anyone would want the job

Posted by: Fred | September 2, 2008 6:13 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

"This election should be about here and now and what the candidates belive on the issues that matter."

Actually, acarpanzo, McCain advisor Rick Davis just said it's NOT about the issues. Really. He also said it IS about the issues before, of course. :)

Posted by: John M. | September 2, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

As I've stated (repeatedly) I wouldn't have voted for McCain-Clinton ...

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain, The Anti-Ace Fighter-Blows Up Five US Planes
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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pol/823248591.html


" "John McCain," says another Navy pilot and acquaintance of that era, "was the kind of guy you wanted to room with -- not fly with. He was reckless, and that's critical when you start thinking about who's going to be the president," The old pilot laughs, and then continues: "But the Navy accident rate was cut in half the day John McCain was shot down"

Posted by: Spyder sux | September 2, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain is very different from Bush.

FACT.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 2, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Toni is right!!!

Posted by: realist | September 2, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Yikes.
This Palin woman seems like someone I would definitely sit down and have a beer with. (With my family, she would probably end up feeling sorry for me.)
Haven't seen a pol like this in a while. The flak she is catching reminds me of how people beat up Abe Lincoln.
Could be one of us, even though from the Republican party.

Posted by: The Buzzer | September 2, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

@shrubhater

Palin's list of scandals:

Troopergate…
Preparedness Questioned…
Defense Role Negated…
Almost Recalled…
No Iraq Focus…
Ted Steven’s Scandal…
Secessionist Party...
Earmarks Beneficiary…
Pregnant Daughter…
Abramoff Connection…
Corruption Investigation…
Church And State...

Posted by: McLame | September 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

if palin really were vice presidential material, capable of putting the country first, then she would be a responsible parent and drive that precocious 17 year-old of hers down to the nearest family planning clinic for a legal abortion.

while she's at it, i would hope that palin also would suck that 5 month-old down syndrome kid into a vaccuum tube where he will be torn limb from limb and die (eventually, at least). i'm saying that for the kid's sake, of course. i just don't want him to have a terrible life.

Posted by: toni | September 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

to think we liberals are scared by palin - more right wing wishful thinking that's been everywhere the past 8 years.

from a we've a strong economy, heck of a job brownie, we'll get him dead or alive or follow him to gates of hell but no caves please party.

no bubblehead, we're just amazed how many stupid sentimental people there are out there that just ignore evidence and facts, andjust stick with one emotional wedge issue when we're in such a deep hole after 8 years of what, sinking fast.

it's funny really, if it wasn't so sad.

enough already.

Posted by: theo | September 2, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Here is the one and only question we, as proud Americans, should be asking ourselves.

Do we really want the highest office in the land polluted with such filth? Seriously.

We will look worse than any third world country if our Vice President has an pregnant, unwed teenage daugheter! Plus that whole Downs Syndrom baby thing! We will look like a nation of ratards!

We might even be invaded! We need to seriously ask ourselves, is this the right ticket. I am an Independent AMERICAN! I want our country to be the most powerful in the world. Honestly, I believe in empire!

What has the GOP done to preserve our Empire? The last eight years have been an international disaster! Now they give us this!

Sorry America. Image matters. Enough with this tired out gun toting redneck imagery. Lets get America back on top!

We are Levi, the rest of the world is Bristol!

Posted by: realist | September 2, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Yep McCain is shooting star is shooting blanks...

"Hothead McCain angrily cancels Larry King appearance"

Blitzer said the McCain campaign complained that Campbell Brown's grilling of Tucker Bounds over Sarah Palin's lack of foreign policy experience was "over the line."

"Over the line?" Really? What would have been in bounds? Repeating the words "war hero" until overcome by the vapors?

Posted by: McPain | September 2, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

How well has Sarah Palin done during her 21 months as Alaska’s governor? Here are excerpts of Daily News editorials about some major issues and challenges during her tenure.

THE FISCAL RECORD

Aug. 5, 2008
The last time the legislature’s spending impulses got so far out of control, Gov. Sarah Palin stepped in to exercise some “adult supervision” with her veto pen.
That probably won’t happen this time -- because Palin helped start the frenzy.
She floated a plan to give every bona fide Alaskan $1,200 worth of energy debit cards over the next year. Add in electricity subsidies and a holiday on the state’s 8-cent-a-gallon gas tax, and Gov. Palin invited lawmakers to spend more than $1 billion.
The party was on.

May 24, 2008
Gov. Sarah Palin cut $268 million from the capital budget on Friday. That’s a lot of money, but still less than 10 percent of the entire $3 billion capital budget.
For the most part, the cuts make sense. . . The governor’s cuts weren’t perfect, but by and large she was right to stick with her criteria and cut accordingly.

July 16, 2007
Gov. Sarah Palin struck a modest blow for fiscal restraint with her $231 million of vetoes to this year’s near-record capital budget.
The governor didn’t show the same discipline with the operating budget, though. She let that $6.6 billion of spending slide through unscathed, even though months earlier she said she’d seek $150 million in budget cuts.

OIL TAX REFORM

Nov. 18, 2007
It took almost all of a 30-day special session, but the Alaska Legislature passed a financially responsible fix to Alaska’s corruption-tainted oil tax.
The final measure went beyond Governor Palin’s proposal, with tighter deductions, stricter enforcement provisions and a steeper windfall profits surcharge. . . .
To pass any reform, Republican Gov. Sarah Palin needed cross-party support from Democrats. To the Democrats’ credit, they backed away from plans to return to a tax on gross oil production instead of profits. To the governor’s credit, she was flexible enough to accept significant enhancements in her initial proposal.

OPENNESS IN GOVERNMENT

May 18, 2007
Gov. Sarah Palin got elected pledging to change the way business was being done in Juneau. Her commitment to open, transparent government is a stark contrast to the prevailing ethic in the Alaska Legislature.

June 6, 2008
Gov. Sarah Palin won office with the promise of running an open and transparent government. But when it comes to the state’s work on the polar bear conservation controversy, her administration is closed and opaque….
She should intervene and let Alaskans hear or see what state scientists had to say (about the global warming threat to polar bears)-- before the politicians got involved.

ALASKA’S $500 MILLION
NATURAL GAS LINE PARTNERSHIP

June 15, 2008
The Palin administration has good reason to push for an independently-owned gas pipeline from the North Slope.

June 8, 2008
The $500 million (that Gov. Palin needs to finance her proposed natural gas pipeline deal) buys Alaska a way to break that hammerlock on our gas. It buys Alaska an experienced, multibillion-dollar partner that can help get our gas produced sooner, on terms that protect Alaska’s interests.

May 29, 2008
Gov. Palin’s gas line team did an impressive amount of homework before recommending a state gas pipeline license for TransCanada Alaska.

TROOPERGATE

July 22, 2008
it’s clear the governor should have supervised her family more closely and made sure they, or any members of her administration, did not use official channels to press the family’s complaints.
The big question is whether (public safety commissioner) Monegan was sacked for not doing the Palins’ bidding and firing Trooper Wooten. If so, that would be an abuse of office. . . .
An impartial investigator will have a lot more credibility than politically charged legislative hearings.
Let an investigator sort it out.

Aug. 21, 2008
Gov. Palin’s ethically compromised aide Frank Bailey gets to stay on the state payroll, despite doing dirty work on the governor’s behalf (in the trooper scandal), but she gives the hook to the ethically upright public safety commissioner who refused to do Bailey’s bidding.
What kind of message does that send to Alaskans?

July 24, 2008
If it comes to the point that you have to say, “I am not a sex harasser,” then you have no business being the state’s top cop. The facts unfolding about new Public Safety Commissioner Chuck Kopp confirm that he is not the person for the job. . . .
Gov. Sarah Palin should withdraw the appointment and take time to carefully vet possible replacements before choosing a new commissioner. If she doesn’t, the Legislature should reject his appointment.
Kopp was quickly appointed the day after the governor fired Walt Monegan -- and the firing is proving to be a political disaster for Palin in its own right, regardless of who might replace him. For no apparent reason, she sacked a popular career cop with a reputation as a straight shooter.

PALIN’S FIRST LEGISLATIVE SESSION

May 18, 2007
From beginning to end, the first session of the 25th Alaska Legislature was a personal triumph for Gov. Sarah Palin.Legislators, after initial reluctance, approved her Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) with only occasional whimpered doubts. …
Ethics reform, sneered at by a few lawmakers and many lobbyists, is now a reality. Gov. Palin’s fingerprints are all over the bill and to the public she is the face of ethics reform. . . .
Alaska’s rookie governor had a heckuva first legislative session.

GAY RIGHTS

Dec. 30, 2006
Despite her personal views to the contrary, she announced she would accept the state Supreme Court order that the state must provide benefits to same-sex partners….
It’s unfortunate that the Legislature and Gov. Palin support a million-dollar special advisory election in April to stir up public opinion on prohibiting benefits for same-sex partners of public employees. Less than one-half of one percent of state employees have applied for the benefits, and it certainly seems that Alaska has more important issues to debate than this.

POLAR BEARS

May 28, 2008
Alaska’s political leaders generally condemned the listing of the polar bear as threatened under the Endangered Species Act.Gov. Sarah Palin joined the deniers and plans to launch a legal counteroffensive. The state will file suit against the listing decision, she says, because the science is “uncertain,” “unproven” and “arbitrary.” …
All this oppositional energy and effort is sadly misplaced. Instead of fighting the listing, Alaska’s political leaders should be fighting to reduce the threat of global warming.

Posted by: Shrubhater | September 2, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about anyone else, but the idea of someone who believes the Earth is only 6000 years old being a heartbeat away from the Presidency really bothers me. I hope someone asks her where all the dinosaur fossils came from during the debate - I'd love to hear her answer to that!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

this is distracting. This election should be about here and now and what the candidates belive on the issues that matter. Energy policy, Taxes, etc... Things they can actually impact. Remember what McCain said..."Gotta keep your sense of humor." http://www.bop-o-rama.com
gallup Daily Obama 50% McCain 42%
http://www.gallup.com/tag/Gallup%2BDaily.aspx

Posted by: acarponzo | September 2, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if the McCain team just decided to say that he picked the Governor of Alaska because she was a female, was a rising star in the GOP, held consevative family values, has exercised sound judgement, and had the capacity to learn. Now that would have been news.

But no. McCain and company wanted so badly to one up Obama and steal his spotlight that they appeared to have fallen in a pile of manure. It wasn't the Democrats who put Sarah Palin and her 17 year old daughter in the cross hairs. It was mom, dad and old man McCain. A little honesty would have spared everyone.

Posted by: No McCain | September 2, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin has your liberal butts scared silly or you wouldn't be working so hard to discredit her!

Posted by: Spyder | September 2, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I agree (at least in part) that her family should be left out of political discussions about her qualifications. The problem with that is that, from the moment she was first introduced to the country, her family was among the major points used to "sell" her to the people of the United States. It seems to me that the Republicans opened the door to that sort of inquisition by presenting her as a pro-life pro-abstinance hockey mom with five kids and a "first dude" who's in various unions.

What's more troublesome to me is that we just finished 16+ months of the ever-more-painful primary process, with all the debates and TV commercials and speeches, trying to pick the best (?!?) presidential candidates from each party, yet the vice-presidential selection -- far more important to the Republicans with a 72-year-old cancer survivor as their candidate -- is left up to the campaigns, the candidates, and a woefully inadequate "vetting" process. Why not just let the party conventions select the candidates again and save the populace the hassle?

And I am sick and tired of hearing about Obama's experience or lack thereof. Someone PLEASE tell me (a) where the Constitution identifies just what qualifies someone to run for President (beyond citizenship, residency and age requirements) and (b) what SIGNIFICANT difference there is between Obama's pre-campaign experience and the experience of, oh, say, Abraham Lincoln (just to throw out a name).

Posted by: Paul_C | September 2, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

"I'm still voting for McCain-Palin. Next?"

It is obvious that means you would vote for McCain-Anyone.

But the USA is smarter than that.

NEXT.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

MarkF
What baby did Biden kill?

Posted by: Penny | September 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I think everyone is making a huge deal out of nothing. Take a look at yourself first before you pass judgement on someone else. Politics as they are have never and will never be clean. All of our politicians even the great ones have lied or done things just to get elected, so this is no different than before or in the future.

Posted by: Jorge | September 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

whoevr said ob ama is toast because black men can't be the president is the reason Obama must has to win. word

Posted by: carry on my wayward sons | September 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

while y'all right-wingers obsess about family values for the nth time in 20 years, repubilcans keep feeding us one distraction after another. the deep hole w has dug these past 8 years that mccain will dig deeper, and we're stuck talking about teen pregnancy. we deserve to sink to a 2nd-rate nation with enormous debt that we can't pay off, a military that we can no longer afford, that is being overtaken by china, russia, and india.

with the past pathetic 8 years, right-wingers have no right to say anything anymore. they've been wrong on everything. no promises kept. all talk and no results.

enough already.

Posted by: theo | September 2, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

The real Palin story is based on verified facts, not 'internet rumor':

A full month before her baby, Trig, was due, Sarah Palin's water broke. She was in Texas about to give a speech. Rather than go immediately to the hospital, as standard medical advice would have her, Palin continued with her speech.

She then hid her condition from flight attendants in order to board a commercial airline flight, NOT a medical flight, for an EIGHT HOUR trip back to Alaska.

At no time was Trig monitored by a fetal heart monitor, even though his amniotic fluid was steadily leaking away. At no time was anything done to prevent infection. In fact, the governor deliberately took a public flight and sat in a seat that must have been crawling with germs and breathing recirculated air.

Arriving in Alaska, the governor drove 45 minutes to a small town hospital to deliver the baby, bypassing two NICU-equipped hospitals, because she wanted her friend to deliver the baby.

Who would do such a thing???

These are not rumors, Palin is actually PROUD of having done these dumbfoundingly dangerous things, joking that "You can't have a fish-picker from Texas". I'm sorry, I just don't find child endangerment funny.

Posted by: RachelB | September 2, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama is toast:

I would not mind voting for a pro-life African-American, for instance, Alan Keyes.

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Man, you liberals are scared!

Posted by: john | September 2, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like alot of liberals upset because they didn't do it first. Was Obama out of wdelock? Hmm..

Posted by: GilW | September 2, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN, YOU WON OUR VOTES AFTER PICKING PALIN.

Posted by: Decided | September 2, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Hey "the race is over":

Yeah, your side's winning. Riggggt.

"obama was the governor of illinois. that beats Palin handsdown Illinois is a much more bigger state albeit smaller in physically

"fact***"

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

carry on my wayward sons:

When, exactly, was THE ONE "Governor" of Illinois?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

No black men for President. They are too emotional, unstable, violent. All blacks care about is blacks.

Obama is a puppet and a danger to this country. He has no experience, he can only read speeches, he has no intelligence or policy.

We're Democrats and we know McCain's policies, but Obama is slippery.

He consorts with white haters and women bashers, anti-semites and America haters.

He picked Biden to make himself look more serious, but we need a PRESIDENT who is qualified.

If America wanted Biden for Pres., Biden would've won the nomination.

Obama's wife is revving to get in the WH and get revenge on white people. All she's about is hating whites and serving blacks. Her eyes are full of hate.

Posted by: Obama is toast | September 2, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Palin is dead wrong about wanting to expand oil drilling in Alaska and slaughtering wolves. She was right about cleaning up the oil commission and kicking Murkowski out.

FACT.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 2, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

"Palins fishing license, her husbands DUI 25 years ago, and her child's pregnancy. This fluff will not last though."...

Five minutes later: We are way beyond that already. There is so much MORE. McCain is completely out of touch with the new age, and that is the whole problemo. She is so WRONG for this job, and it will cost him the election.

Sorry Republicans...you are not winning this.

The serious team is on the other side.



Posted by: The Race Is Over. | September 2, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Only in a Republican America would someone with a law degree from Harvard, 12 years in politics, four years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and manager of one of the most impressively flawless and forward thinking presidential campaigns ever not be ready for the presidency while a evangelical with 19 months in national politics and a bachelors in journalism is considered "ready on day one.

Posted by: J.C. | September 2, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

obama was the governor of illinois. that beats Palin handsdown Illinois is a much more bigger state albeit smaller in physically

"fact***"

Posted by: carry on my wayward sons | September 2, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

She said she does not know what a VP does and now she is a running for VP. McSame should have told her before he vetted her. How can a citizen of the United States of America does not know what is a VP does? I'm not talking about a mere citizen, but a Governor of one the state of this union. I'm appalled by it. I'm sure she had a lieutenant governor. Does she know what a lieutenant governor does or what was her job about? She is not a shooting, but a Dying one.

Posted by: Omidal | September 2, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Yawn.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Do you remember Memorial Day weekend when John McCain had all his main choices to his mini ranch in Cornville, AZ 16 miles from Sedona, so he could get to know them. What a slap in the face to the people that were there! Mitt Romney and Pawlenty must be piss*d! After all the fuss about Obama not choosing the second place person. McCain does not choose any of the Republican top three. I guess his ego could not take having what the other candidates said about him in the press come back to hit him in the as*. But it was difficult to find a candidate less intelligent then John McCain to be on his ticket – so in that respect she was a good choice.

Posted by: Kwaayesnama | September 2, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Let us not forget that Sarah Palin favors raising taxes on big business. It's what she did in Alaska -- pushed through increased taxes on the oil companies. If she was willing to go for windfall profits taxes in her home state what kind of taxing is she going to want to do on corporations nation-wide?

I think that trumps her family's Jerry Springer lifestyle. If shotgun marriages are a Palin tradition, that's their business. If supporting tax increases is a favored policy with her, that's everyone's business. Focus on what's important, people. If she ever gets into the White House, it'll be disastrous for American business.

Posted by: Dan | September 2, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his campaign said it best: they chose "surprise" over getting fully information about her, interviewing few people in Alaska out of fear that her name might be revealed ("sacrificed prep for surprise")--in other words, they chose the campaign over getting all the information for the possible future VP of the US. I've had interviews for minor jobs that lasted longer than Palin's for VP candidate. She was picked because she energizes the right wing base and, apparently, she does it well. Her qualifications/background don't matter to them, just that she shares their values. Brilliant choice to win, McCain, but what happens then? Winning the campaign at the cost of the country. I'm disappointed that someone who fought for the country would treat it so lightly. As someone in a military family who would have liked to see an honored veteran in the White House, McCain has lost my vote.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

The Palin pick is brilliant! Give McCain some credit. The Republicans select marionettes to run for office. These puppets spew some shallow rhetoric to appeal to the masses and get elected into office. In the mean-time, corporations run the government.

I didn't think McCain was a puppet until I now witness his transformation before my eyes into conservative-puddy.

At least a corporative government will transition us to energy independence, however there will be no chance for anyone to compete with the big companies. Gotta take care of your-self somehow...can't rely on ingenuity...just amass the money now and take care of yourself in the future.

Posted by: Dennis | September 2, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

mccain is a better choice how?

because he voted 90% with w and will continue another 4 years of the past 8?

the $1 trillion deficit that we owe to china as dollar iou's or that it'd be 4 trillion in 10 years as debt + interest to china or that it'd be $9 trillion if mccain gets to double-down on w's tax cuts that we nor your children to be can afford to pay? or were you looking to part of the 25% of mccain's tax cuts that go to households that make more than $2.8 million a year? or didn't you notice that average wages haven't increased for the past 5 years after inflation (you didn't think not having a pay raise all this time was normal did y'all?)? that the dollar is worth 30% less since w took office?

enough innuendo, bland sentimental emotional trite empty one-liners, and fear. show me the money and hard facts that make mccain such a fantastic choice for president, given the pathetic past 8 years where we've lost 4,000 american soliders, killed hundreds of thousands of iraqis, and have a taliban that is retaking over afghanistan, and for what?

grow up. enough already.

Posted by: theo | September 2, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

QUOTE:

"The whole, "Palin's 2 years running Alaska beat Obama's 4 years in the Senate" is so laughable."

If it's so laughable, then please tell me Obama has accomplished in the Senate.

Remember, it has to be so much better than single-handedly cleaning up one of the most corrupt, backwater states in the country that the comparison is "laughable."

Posted by: mineo94 | September 2, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is Governor of Alaska. It's a siginficant position to say the least. Is she ready to lead? Who is? All candidates are by-standers until they are sworn in. Only then, can the full weight of the Oval Office can be felt.

Those old enough have fond memories of Kennedy and Regan, but were they ready to lead when they took office? No more - no less than Obama or McCain. It comes down to who your advisors are, how much you trust them,and the ability to interpret advice and information. Last you have to be willing to be the face of nation; for better or worse. Frankly, I don't know why anyone would want the job

Posted by: Fred | September 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Palin being a heart away from being the President of US with all her drama scares me to death. She has no experience, can't even manage or make sound decisions regarding her own family life, and we expect her to potentially be the one to make cricial decisions for an entire nation.

Republicans have gone mad!!!

I want to hear from the evangelicals who claim to support Palin. This woman has a special needs child, doesn't take maternity leave, has a teen pregnant daughter whom she threw under the bus and betrayed by sharing her secret with the world, and when Bristol needs her most, Palin will be busy with the nations' business! For all those who argue that Mr. Palin is an-at-home dad now, let's be clear, there are distinct and fundamental differences in mothers and fathers and how they nurture a child. If God intended men to be primary caregivers to children then he would have given them uteruses.

So to all you evangelicals, you mean to tell me you actually feel good about voting this woman in office when she will be forced to neglect her duties as a mother and grandmother?

Posted by: JWilkes | September 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002377.html
"Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager and the person at the point of the vice presidential process, said there was no abrupt change of course in the final hours. Nor, he said, was Palin selected without having gone through the full vetting process that was done for other finalists. That process included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers involved in the deliberations.

"Nobody was vetted less or more than anyone in the final stages, and John had access to all that information and made the decision," Davis said. "It's really not much more complicated than that.""

Did Mr Davis lie to Dan Balz? I think so.

ps: it's the Alaskan Indepence Party.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama can debate with Palin
Biden with McCain.
That will equal things out.

Posted by: BJ | September 2, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Umm, if she was thoroughly vetted then you would have known that job 1 was to control how the media reported on her. That was not done. Instead the media, who is nobody's friend, is having a feeding frenzy. All easily foreseeable and considering the experience of the Republican public relations machine, all easily dealt with.

Unlike Biden, a walking encyclopedia on domestic and foreign affairs, Palin obviously has to cram on these topics before she is left alone with a reporter. However, if she was thoroughly vetted this would have also been known and she could have been quietly tutored in Alaska all month.

The fact of the matter is there are very few Republicans who 1) appeal to the religious right, 2) could appeal to moderate and conservative leaning independents and 3) would actually take the job. Anyone truly qualified knows better than to run for President (or VP) this year. The only reason McCain ran is his age: it's now or never for him.

Posted by: muD | September 2, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

In all fairness, I would like to add, that the issues surrounding her daughter's pregnancy are great for stimulating conversation on those topics, but are in no way representative of Palin's abilities as a leader.

~ Independent for Obama

Posted by: wolf | September 2, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin took on Frank Murkowski, one of the most powerful and corrupt politicians in the country* -- and won.

PS. He was a Republican, and it almost cost Palin her political life.

FACT.

* Do a search on tpmmuckraker.com for details.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 2, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

My gut tells me that the Grumpy and Grandma ticket will not survive until election day.

Posted by: Prince Keith | September 2, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

The whole, "Palin's 2 years running Alaska beat Obama's 4 years in the Senate" is so laughable.

Leave it to the righties to never let the facts get in the way of their "truth".

Posted by: tdub | September 2, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Since it seemed to offend "John" so much, I will repeat: the process and the outcome of McCain's VP selection are very much like the decision making process we've witnessed for the past eight years from "W". Shallow process reduced to political expediency with very poor results.

Harriot Miers wasn't available? How about John Ashcroft (or is he too busy putting draperies over statues?

You're doing a "heck of a job, Brownie (uh, McCain)"

Heaven help us if we have to endure four more years of "maverick" style decision making!

Posted by: rbmorgan | September 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick and damn tired of my fellow Democrats comparing the selection of Sarah Palin to the selection of Dan Quayle, Harriet Miers, or Clarence Thomas. Sarah Palin is far from being another Dan Quayle, Harriet Miers, or Clarance Thomas.

Sarah Palin, for God's sake, is another George W. Bush.

That is the dead-on analogy we should be making. Bush was another Republican neophyte whose sole qualification for office was that he had served as a state governor. He had absolutely no experience in foreign relations. He was Bible-thumping born-again evangelical who could parrot every single cliché the religious right ever came up with. He had never served in the armed forces of the United States, much less a combat zone (don't talk to me about his sinecure as a fly-boy in the Texas National Guard).

George Bush's alleged "executive experience" in being governor did not amount to a pitcher of warm spit in qualifying him to be president. More to the point--the man has now had eight more years of executive experience as president of the United States. What does that tell you, for God's sake, about the value of simply holding an executive position in government? What does that tell you about executive experience uninformed by intelligence, judgment, morality, or compassion?

There is of course, a whale of a difference between Governor Bush as he prepared to run for president, and Sarah Palin as she prepares to be one heart beat away from being president. George Bush had a hell of a lot more experience going for him than Palin! He had been governor of a bigger and more populous state much longer than Sarah Palin at this point in her career. Further, by the time the election was held, George Bush had at least run a national campaign and survived its rigours. Millions of Americans had taken his measure and voted for him. What has Palin done? Satisfied the tunnel-visioned selection criteria of one human being looking for a gimmick to revive his flagging presidential campaign.

Quit the pussy-footing, Democrats. Call it like it is. Sarah Palin is another George W. Bush. Elect the Republican ticket, and you put another George W. Bush one heart beat away from being president. In fact, Americans could have another GW in the White House as soon as 1:00 pm on January 20—for another four years. I mean, what if the old man has a heart attack just after he’s inaugurated? Or remember the example of William Henry Harrison? He got pneumonia standing in the cold on inaugural day and was gone in a few weeks.

Wake up, America!

IT’S THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, STUPID.

Posted by: GeorgiaSon | September 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Dan, Why do you gloss over the Alaska Independence Party story. Only calling them fringe and wondering if she was a member years ago. She made a video welcome to their convention LAST APRIL! In it she tells them "keep up the good work". What's their work? Trying to separate AK from the US. Really. The vice chair urges members to "infiltrate" mainstream parties. Look, these guys want ANWR oil and they don't necessarily intend to share it with the US. Why would you want someone to maybe lead the country who as gone on record as supporting a group that wants to break up the US?

Posted by: rjma | September 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Shooting Star
or
Shooting Blanks


I'm a 19 year-old Obama activist and I can't come up with anything else.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

ALASKA FIRST, ALASKA ALWAYS!!! Oh wait, I'm from California. CALIFORNIA FIRST, CALIFORNIA ALWAYS! Ok, I'm kidding, but common, Alaska?! The state with less people than the city of San Diego.

Yes, a Governor of less than 2 yrs of such a "large" state, with very diverse cultures, and creeds should have all the experience to handle all of the issues necessary on a national level, including national security, national healthcare, economy, education, race relations, foreign relations (and I mean other than Alaska's neighboring Russia and Canada). Although, I do keep forgetting that Palin was also a two-term mayor of a town of 9000 people. Geez, that is a quarter the size of the suburban city I live in now, and I don't think our mayor should even be close to being qualified to be a VP candidate. In fact, 9000 is a quarter of the size of the university I went to.

You are comparing apples and oranges when comparing Palin's experiences to Obama. At least, Obama is a US senator from the state of Illinois, and state senator before that. Being the mayor of Chicago alone is ten times more difficult and complex than being governor of Alaska.

But of course, the Republic "right-wing", as always, will just keep sipping the party's "kool-aid", and listening to them "spin" everything into such propaganda, and accept it as the word of Christ. George Bush be damned, they are not willing to listen to anyone else's opinions, even if it drills our country to the ground all the way to China ... sip, sip, spin, spin, please pass me more kool-aid?!

Posted by: California First | September 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

to 1BLSDNUPE-
My thoughts (similar background to yours)
A REAL woman CAN do it all!!!
You didn't hear anybody tell male candidates for President to go home and be fathers! Love her or hate her, she is just like every other working Mom. You never can do enough for your kids as a Mom or Dad. Enough of the glass ceiling, especially from Democrats. However, I am still voting Obama. Would love a woman in, but only the right woman.

Posted by: Mary M | September 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

regarding vetting;

Is Obama a Communist?

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302827467707515

Posted by: rtfanning | September 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

This article is very kind to the McCain campaign. After reading the McCain Camp version of events, one has to question not only his VP pick, but his honesty. To claim now that she was thoroughly vetted is exchanging a charge of incompetence for one of stupidity.

Posted by: Kevin Morgan | September 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Being the governor of Alaska (one of the least populated states in the country) is harder than being a mere Senator from Delaware (one of the lesast populated states in the country).

FACT.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

What a silly question about the Downs Syndrome test; there should be no confusion here. I am a 40+ year old woman and whatever your stance is on abortion...doctors encourage a test to every woman. OBGYN's want to know if they are dealing with a high-risk pregnancy, so they can medically be prepared for every birth/delivery and also to prevent emergency situations. Imagine the lawsuits doctors face too if they are not medically prepared to handle each individual family situation? Sarah Palin took a test-most likely recommended by her doctor and knew ahead of time; that way her husband and she could be prepared as well as the doctors to make sure their child would get the needed care during and after delivery. Whoever asked the question is not very informed, really!

Posted by: Ann | September 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Being the governor of Alaska (one of the least populated states in the country) is harder than being a mere Senator from Delaware (one of the lesast populated states in the country).

FACT.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

The choice of Palin was announced on Friday. Since then, we've had one or two major scandals involving her every day: From her supporting the bridge to nowhere, to her connections with Alaskan separatist movements, to the lack of vetting ( or even general knowledge of her ) by McCain.

This is a scary foreshadowing of what a McCain Presidency would look like.

Posted by: wolf | September 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"Now, the truth is starting to come out about the reckless, cavalier, and dangerous decision made by McSame to place Sarah (knock 'em up) Palin on the ticket. If this is the type of decision making to be expected of McSame in the White House, then he is a very dangerous man indeed to even be considered for the presidency. Hopefully, the American people (this doesn't include mentally deranged social conservatives) will wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late. Obama/Biden 08!!!"

Wow. If this carefully constructed and well-thought-out phrase ("McSame?" "That's such a huge concept for you — did you really think of that all by yourself??) is what passes for rational discourse in your mind, then it seems to me you shouldn't be bandying about the whole "mentally deranged" comment. It brings to mind a certain pot-and-kettle analogy.

Posted by: Rob | September 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Shooting Star
or
Shooting Blanks


What was McCain thinking?!

Posted by: gopsux.com | September 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Whoop there it is:

McCain's idea of vetting a woman is staring at her A$$ while she is spewing rhetoric that even she doesn't follow.

Who is her Pastor and lets hear his sermons. let's scrutinze things her spouse said. Lets hold her accountable for things her associates did when she was a child. You neo-cons want to leglislate the sexual issues of millions of women yet the fact that she can't control the immorality of a child in her own home is a private family issue.

Posted by: chris c | September 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Here's an interesting tidbit that was reported in today's New York Times (see http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02palin.html)

"The Palins eloped on Aug. 29, 1988, and their first son, Track, was born eight months later, a fact that Maria Comella of the McCain campaign, declined to elaborate on. “They were high school sweethearts who got married and ended up having five beautiful children together,” Ms. Comella said."

So I guess when Palin preaches abstinance-only sex education, she means that *other* people should abstain from sex before marriage. There's a word for people who don't practice what they preach.

Posted by: zenobia1 | September 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

What do you mean her personal life is off limits. Once she entered Public Life--her life became public. BTW...where has she been these last several days? If she can't handle public scrutiny about her family, how is she going to handle the mess in Georia-Russia-Iran? The Neo-Cons are about to get us in to WWIII and you would rather have her in foreign policy discussions befor Biden? McBush and the Barracuda--trigger happy war mongers.

Posted by: 75thRanger | September 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Eddie | September 2, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

This was planned by McSame and Co. Obama talked about bringing America together....so Rove and his buddies brought in a Blue-Collar American to be ripped apart. At the End of the Day...starting today with Huckabee...they'll point their crooked fingers at the "liberal" media and the Democrats and blame them for what happened. It's the just Straw Man tactic with a twist.

The American Electorate needs to get smart about this crap. Obama|Biden need to end the era of Rove|Bush|McCain.

Posted by: SWMissouri | September 2, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone ever look at John McCain's bio?
* Bad temper, flies off the handle, verbal abuse
* Infidelity to his first wife, affair with a woman 20 years younger than him, served his wife divorce papers when she was in the hospital
*"Fly-boy" reputation, facile, insincere
* Snap judgements and lack of preparation (remind you or our current president?)
* Not the sharpest pencile in the box ( finished next to the last in his academy class)
* Comes from a background of wealth and privelege
* "Flip-flopped" on any number of issues to please the Republican right
* Sold his soul for the nomination

Does it really surprise anyone that he would make a veep pick so silly, so obviously a plea to the disaffected HRC voters? And what does it say about his view of women that he thinks HRC supporters will rally to his cause because he picked a woman, when that woman represents everything HRC and her followers were fighting against? Are we really surprised at this? Since when does shock value become a viable substitute for sound public policy decision-making?

Sarah Palin seems nice to me, and I pity her and her poor family. Anyone out there with a teenage daughter who doesn't think she is having sex? This poor, very normal family has been thrown to the wolves by McCain's ambition. It just proves once again that he will say or do anything to become President.

Posted by: Politicus | September 2, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry that McCain did not choose Lieberman or Ridge (or almost anyone else). I still wouldn't have voted for him but I would have been comfortable with him winning. I'm not comfortable with Sarah Palin being second in line to the Presidency. With the recent anniversary of hurricane Katrina, you'd think Americans would be reminded of what happens when we choose ideology over competence. The current pro-life administration has managed to end a lot of American lives over the past 8 years. I'm glad that Sarah Palin and her daughter have decided to choose life for their infants. Many New Orleans residents would have liked to choose life, too, instead of drowning in a flood. Many young Americans serving in Iraq would have liked to choose life instead of dying in a wholly mismanaged war.

Posted by: JT | September 2, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Eddie | September 2, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Palin's 2 years running Alaska plus her 2 years cleaning up Alaska's state oil commission beat Obama's 4 years in the Senate, especially considering he's spent the last 2 years campaigning.

FACT.

Posted by: You know it's true | September 2, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Whether Obama has he experience neccessary I do not know. It's his character I doubt. He and his slimy MSM cohorts along with the sniveling little leftist bloggers are a disgrace to this country.

Posted by: Easy Ed | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin's list of scandals are growing by the day...


Troopergate…
Preparedness Questioned…
Defense Role Negated…
Almost Recalled…
No Iraq Focus…
Ted Steven’s Scandal…
Secessionist Party...
Earmarks Beneficiary…
Pregnant Daughter…
Abramoff Connection…
Corruption Investigation…
Church And State...


Posted by: Palin | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain's selection of Palin was BRILLIANT.

We're Dems and we're voting McCain because of Palin.

Posted by: Dems now voting McCain | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

i love it when the family values crowd makes the papers. A 17 year old pregnant by her self described "redneck" 17 year old Hs boyfriend. guess those family values are what every family wants. Gov Palin needs to keep her own family in line before she can tell the rest of the nation what to do. Do I see a sex scandal from her husband next? Oh he's a republican, bet it will be a gay sex scandal.

Posted by: davenyc | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin's list of scandals are growing by the day...


Troopergate…
Preparedness Questioned…
Defense Role Negated…
Almost Recalled…
No Iraq Focus…
Ted Steven’s Scandal…
Secessionist Party...
Earmarks Beneficiary…
Pregnant Daughter…
Abramoff Connection…
Corruption Investigation…
Church And State...


Posted by: Palin | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, a new Alaskos pipeline of disinformation will deliver a steady flow of hate to the rest of the country.

Posted by: Old Atlantic | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Okay, lets get over it. We all know this choice is lightyears ahead of the present VP. And if they want to start another war, just maybe a better shot.

Posted by: D B Workman Sr | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Whether Obama has he experience neccessary I do not know. It's his character I doubt. He and his slimy MSM cohorts along with the sniveling little leftist bloggers are a disgrace to this country.

Posted by: Easy Ed | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

There are twice as many people without power after Gustav than there are in the whole state of Alaska. The state Palin governed and you call that more experience?

Posted by: D | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

"Will she be a political shooting star?" Is that an honest question or is it meant more as a rhetorical question? If it's an honest question, why not wait to see what happens? If it happens, then write an analysis. If there is a purpose in asking the question and if the purpose is to attempt to make her into a shooting star, then just stop already.

Posted by: BKeedy | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin's list of scandals are growing by the day...


Troopergate…
Preparedness Questioned…
Defense Role Negated…
Almost Recalled…
No Iraq Focus…
Ted Steven’s Scandal…
Secessionist Party...
Earmarks Beneficiary…
Pregnant Daughter…
Abramoff Connection…
Corruption Investigation…
Church And State...

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Posted by: Palin | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Whether Obama has he experience neccessary I do not know. It's his character I doubt. He and his slimy MSM cohorts along with the sniveling little leftist bloggers are a disgrace to this country.

Posted by: Easy Ed | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Shoots chinchilla in Wasilla,

Are you speaking of the Cover-Up that is Covering-Up the Original Cover-Up ?????

If so I know exactly what you are speaking of and agree it's only a matter of time....

Posted by: Mc Clueless | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

John still can't answer these trying questions. John sounds like another wet palmed republican lookin' for an excuse to be high an mighty;

Palin's list of scandals:

Troopergate…
Preparedness Questioned…
Defense Role Negated…
Almost Recalled…
No Iraq Focus…
Ted Steven’s Scandal…
Secessionist Party...
Earmarks Beneficiary…
Pregnant Daughter…
Abramoff Connection…
Corruption Investigation…
Church And State...

Posted by: gopsux.com | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Politics and Mike of Atlanta:

Considering the alternative, I probably would vote for any McCain ticket (other than Hillary DIANE Clinton ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

As a female and a Republican, I am frustrated and disappointed by McCain's selection. There were plenty of women who were far better qualified than Palin. Women who didn't have all of the baggage that she carries. What was McCain thinking? Was he even thinking at all?

Posted by: Karen | September 2, 2008 5:57 PM

Oh Yes Karen, Magoo was thinking. He was just using his little 'head' instead of his big one.

Posted by: More of the Same | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Okay, lets get over it. We all know this choice is lightyears ahead of the present VP. And if they want to start another war, just maybe a better shot.

Posted by: D B Workman Sr | September 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad McCain picked Palin. It leaves zero doubt as to how owned he is by the Right he actually is. The comparison between McCain and Bush just became completely valid. A McCain Presidency is now inarguably a continuation of the Bush regime.

Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain saw himself in Palin? Is this comparable to Bush seeing into Putin's soul and finding a kindred spirit?

Posted by: Montego | September 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

HEY, LET'S ALL MAKE STUFF UP AND SEE IF IT STICKS. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF EVERYONE FINDS OUT THAT WE ARE LIARS.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

STUFF THAT DEMS MADE UP ABOUT PALIN

EXHIBIT A:

Palin's list of scandals are growing by the day...


Troopergate…
Preparedness Questioned…
Defense Role Negated…
Almost Recalled…
No Iraq Focus…
Ted Steven’s Scandal…
Secessionist Party...
Earmarks Beneficiary…
Pregnant Daughter…
Abramoff Connection…
Corruption Investigation…
Church And State...

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Someone who was a vocal member of the radical, anti-American, secessionist Alaska Independence Party should be instantly disqualified from any role close to President of the United States.

This is an insult from McCain to all Americans. If he makes decisions this hastily about something this important, so early on, god knows what other awful judgment calls he'll make as president.

Posted by: Ron | September 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post is an organ of the left, but it is really surprising to read how far removed from mainstream America that its readers are. The Dems nominate a Marxist street organizer with no credible experience whatsoever, and are shocked by McCain's pick? Few people in real America will be pulling the lever for Obama, and the left will all scream racism without ever considering that they nominated a ridiculous candidate of questionable experience and patriotism, not to mention Marxist economic ideas. Every four years, I think that it isn't possible for the Dems to nominate a more pathetic candidate than the last, but they always do!

Posted by: Robert | September 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Babies really are cute and sweet.

Will there be a White House shower?

Posted by: BobWriting | September 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Yes, we SHOULD ask Palin if she supports the resumption of commercial Whaling.

The thing you forget about hunters like Palin is, if they'll support killing wolves from helicopters, they'll support the slaughter of any living thing.

The hunters have all these asinine stories about how there are more whitetail deer now than when columbus landed. But how the He!! could they possibly know? They couldn't.

If you tell somebody to choose between beer or bullets (at a single point in time), and they say that that is the definition of He!!, then you have yourself a gun totin' idiot.

It's that simple.

Posted by: Ask Palin about Whalin' | September 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Nobody is perfect thats for sure. But surely we can settle for a more experienced VP to back up the most powerful man of Earth?

She may be a good person, a good mum who backs up her life with her beliefs. But that doesn't make her VP qualified. Its the VP we're talking about not mum of the year.

Posted by: Politics | September 2, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

As a female and a Republican, I am frustrated and disappointed by McCain's selection. There were plenty of women who were far better qualified than Palin. Women who didn't have all of the baggage that she carries. What was McCain thinking? Was he even thinking at all?

Posted by: Karen | September 2, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

> the announcement that her 17-year-old daughter
> is pregnant

In other endeavors (than politics) this called "the bike shed problem".

Look it up.

Posted by: Toon Moene | September 2, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Has anybody seen the Hooters pictures? they are circulating apparently.

McCain-Palin: because you give a HOOTers about national security

McCain-Palin: show the USA that we CAN vote for a C*NT as VP!

McCain-Palin: Suing to get PORK off the endangered species list

McCain-Palin: Because the founding fathers insisted in a combined church and state, didn't they?

Posted by: DMH1 | September 2, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Democratic hypocrisy:

Kerry likes McCain so much, he tried to convince McCain to run with him on the Democratic ticket in 2004.

McCain has been one of the most popular regular guests on The Daily Show for years.

We're talking the McCain of McCain-Feingold finance reform.

We're talking the McCain of McCain-Kennedy immigration reform.

And yeah he STUPIDLY voted for the war (just like Hillary), but he also criticized Bush's management of the war starting very early on, and personally designed the surge strategy which -- let's face it -- IS working, however imperfectly.

Now Dems would have anyone reading this page believe that he is the devil incarnate.

I'd respect you more if you were confident enough about your candidate and his positions to base your arguments on facts.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

"McCain saw himself in Sarah Palin, his advisers claim"

Does that mean he wears a dress behind closed doors?

Posted by: gopsux.com | September 2, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Greg's question... tests are part of any pregnancy, particularly with an older mother. As "in utero" surgery is a reality, it's best to know the situation with the fetus to see if anything might be done if an abnormal situation occurs.

Posted by: JoJo | September 2, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the first "unknown" VP candidate to be chosen in the internet era. Our "known" politicians have all been scrutinized via the 24/7 news cycle, blogs, FOIA, etc. and found to be "safe". By picking a relative "unknown" McCain has unknowingly performed an experiment on the power of the information age to reduce a candidate to rubble in the space of a week.

I doubt we will ever see a presidential candidate pick such another "unknown" VP. The potential for disaster is too high.

Posted by: cprussin | September 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

This sure doesn't seem like an accident.


www.ifrisbeegolf.com

Posted by: FrisbeeFan | September 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin's list of scandals are growing by the day...


Troopergate…
Preparedness Questioned…
Defense Role Negated…
Almost Recalled…
No Iraq Focus…
Ted Steven’s Scandal…
Secessionist Party...
Earmarks Beneficiary…
Pregnant Daughter…
Abramoff Connection…
Corruption Investigation…
Church And State...

Posted by: gopsux.com | September 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a breath of fresh air America needs. She has more qualifications having served as the Governor of Alaska than Obama. Interesting how Mr. Obama is trying to deflect his inexperience by changing the subject and questioning Palin's experience. It shows how afraid he is now of losing.

Mr. Obama lacks the experience to be President. That is the largest REAL issue in this election.

Posted by: Brian for America | September 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Based upon the frenzied anti-spin above, McCain locked it up. Obama is on a slow fizzle from here on out, and boring already. This will only get better. I think the base is back.

Posted by: Rich | September 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain saw himself in Sarah Palin, his advisers claim.

Oh nice. A pair of weirdos.

Posted by: Americano | September 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

To those of you nutso rightwingers who are foaming at the mouth to defend her, better start thinking ahead.

If you think this pregnancy thing is the only bit of news coming out of Alaska, you aint seem nothing yet.

Money talks, and as we speak, tabloids are up there DIGGING.


Get ready.


Think ahead.


This is going to get a heck of a lot more interesting than just a teenage pregnancy.


Get ready, white wingers. The wasilla wednecks are coming to washington.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | September 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Would Palin shoot a gorilla in Wasilla?

Would she trap chinchilla?

Would Palin go Whalin'

It's not the lady I'm Assailin'

It's that the polls are Trailin'

Posted by: Shoots chinchilla in Wasilla | September 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I am an independent and can not believe what I am hearing from the Democrats about Sarah Palin and maybe some Republicans too? In addition, the media is so wrong-regarding the coverage of her family!!! No one has even given her a chance and her family business is her private life. Plus, the children of candidates are not to be publicized-so inappropriate. These children are not running for an office. My first impressions of Sarah Palin are positive and I would like to hear more of her views and see what happens in the debates ahead. I believe I will go for the pair that seems to be more experienced, more genuine, more human and more caring-maybe Sarah Palin will be the best canidate of them all? I can't believe what I am hearing from people on this site-many of you are so judgmental and hypocritical in your statements-a person's life isn't perfect and at least Sarah Palin is honest and backs up her decisions with her beliefs!!!!

Posted by: Lee | September 2, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I am a little confused about her strong anti abortion stance. If she is against abortion under any circumstances, how did she know that her last child had Downs before he was born, and then decided to go ahead with the birth? If you are going to go ahead with the birth, why check to see if the child has Downs?

Posted by: Greg | September 2, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I am deliciously savoring another fine baked good produced by the Hostess people as I plan to secretly shoot the annoying pet parrot of my 12 year-old neighbor. He's not home now, but I have a BB gun and he left his bedroom window open. Once the bird opens its yap AGAIN, I will let fly as soon as I can draw a bead on it.

After I finish these cupcakes. Mmmmm... trans fats....

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:41 PM---
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Very poetic JakeD...very poetic...Kinda gets me right here ♥

Posted by: :-) | September 2, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

I find it interesting how many right wingers actually think that Palin is a brilliant pick because people will "identify" with her. I have nothing against hunting, but it's almost a dying industry in most parts of the USA; the NRA is feared because of zealotry, not numbers. Down here in Texas, folks like to make fun of Austin as a hotbed of liberals, but it bears pointing out that there are more people in Austin than the entire state of Alaska. Her religious views are pretty extreme as well, and there's a question whether the evengelicals will even be able to hold on to their own youngsters this year. Is she really all that appealing to independent women? I guess we'll find out, but I'm getting the impression that Palin is more like a pin-up for conservative men than a serious female political figure. No wonder McCain likes her.

Posted by: Wow | September 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

"Real Americans love her already"


mmm ... NO

Posted by: Bud | September 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

She's a VP not Prez so technically she wont be leading the nation of millions. But yeah she sounds dodgy and wayyy too unqualified to be a VP. Biden will make a much better VP to Obama than Palin to McDonalds.

Posted by: Antkiller | September 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Well, Palin won't miss much time from work. She can just 'lay hands' on herself and use 'faith healing' whenever she's sick.

Of course that doesn't bode well for any improvement's in our health insurance.

Maybe all the Fundies could open Faith Healing centers instead of making health insurance more affordable.

Posted by: Wailin' Palin | September 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Just in API-Gate

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Something is 'shooting'. But it's definitely not a star.

It's John and his buddy Larry Craig visiting the mens room at the Minneapolis airport. You know - the one near the snoopy statue.

Posted by: Shooting, but it's not a star! | September 2, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Baby-Gate / Bridge-Gate / Trooper-Gate / Lobiest-Gate / DUI-Gate / Speaking in Toungs-Gate and more comming in...

All in three days of knowing who this woman was, good stuff well vetted.

Posted by: Mike | September 2, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

From an igloo/trailer to the White House! Come on, it works....

Posted by: Bimbo for VP | September 2, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign released this kid into this maelstrom. They are to blame for it and they must accept that blame.

Posted by: m tobias | September 2, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Do you really want an unexperienced lady who cant even bring up her own daughter properly to lead the nation of millions?????

What if America goes to war with Russia? What can she do? No experience no first hand knowledge no nothing GGBBQ cyalateralligator.

Posted by: Ant | September 2, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Who wants a poodle of musty macho oriented Republicans as a VP? A moose killer creepy gun fan? Thanks but NO thanks

Posted by: Anais | September 2, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

McCain's idea of vetting a woman is staring at her A$$ while she is spewing rhetoric that even she doesn't follow.

Posted by: gopsux.com | September 2, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute...wasn't MarkF the same guy who claimed he was "ex-gay" a few months ago?

Posted by: Mike O | September 2, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

rbmorgan wrote:

"Apparently, McCain's decision making process and outcome are very much like that of George Bush. Shallow political decision making process to tap into the "image" they want (including gender) without doing the hard work needed to ensure that the selection was actually ready to step in as president."

------YEAH, and THAT'S why John Kerry worked so hard in 2004 to convince McCain to be his running mate. rbmorgan, you, sir, are an idiot who will do anything to try and win (which, ironically, is what you accuse the other side of doing...).

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I am deliciously savoring another fine baked good produced by the Hostess people as I plan to secretly shoot the annoying pet parrot of my 12 year-old neighbor. He's not home now, but I have a BB gun and he left his bedroom window open. Once the bird opens its yap AGAIN, I will let fly as soon as I can draw a bead on it.

After I finish these cupcakes. Mmmmm... trans fats....

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

We have almost become the ROME that history says we will. As I read the varied remarks insults lunicy and some drowned out sensible comments, I realize the left, and the right have never been further apart. This type of political division will cause the USA to fall. "anything taken to extreme will produce error" Al Gores extreme view of global warming is causing the earth to cool. The Democrats and mass medias extreme view of obama will cause the country to shift right. Anything out of balance will correct it self in time. The extreme views of the right will cause a left shift. We can't survive the shifting much longer. You people need to take a breather.

Posted by: chance | September 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Ashley:

Would you have been similarly "concerned" about Joe Biden getting elected to the U.S. Senate when a tragic car accident had just left him as a single dad? JFK, Jr. was born right after the 1960 election. He turned out O.K., right?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

To MarkF: Not everyone in this country cares about the fact that she's a good Christian. There are other religions in this country, so religion really should have nothing to do with government. You wouldn't like it if someone imposed Muslim, Jewish, or whatever else beliefs on you, would you? So now you know how those who have beliefs that are different from you feel.

Posted by: ODavis | September 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I love the McCain camp and Repulican Blow Hards on this one, they knew about the s-storm that was comming with Palin. They got what they wanted 100% of the attention is on the Woman Canidate Palin,, too bad 90% of it is negative..

Posted by: Mike | September 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

What was the poster posing as me below thinking? Did he know anything about Sarah Palin before he chose to attack her?

It sure doesn't seem like it...

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, McCain's decision making process and outcome are very much like that of George Bush. Shallow political decision making process to tap into the "image" they want (including gender) without doing the hard work needed to ensure that the selection was actually ready to step in as president.

Was Harriet Miers not available?

You're doing a heck of a job Brownie (uh McCain).


Heaven help us if McCain-Palin are elected!

Posted by: rbmorgan | September 2, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Half-jaked:

A: Hillary DIANE Clinton.

Next question?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Steve O is a paid poster. He has a DNC activist training and the corrupt tendencies of an Obama campaign volunteer. (Remember when Obama promised to end the war, then renegged? Remember what Obama did to Hillary?) That combination of self righteousness, judgmentalism, and the ability to rationalize away anything that gets in the way of his narrow minded agenda is extremely dangerous. It also explains why the worst of the Democratic base is so worried about Palin's pick.

Posted by: Steve O

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

What was John McCain thinking? Did he know anything about Sarah Palin before he chose her to be his VP?

It sure doesn't seem like it...

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Her minister makes Wright look pretty darn tame....

I guess we will start to hear that her religion is a private matter.... rather than tapes of her minister telling Bush critics that they will burn in Hell!!

Here is one from the minister..
"What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode." Now you say, wait a minute Ed, he's like the good shepherd, he's loving all the time and he's kind all the time. Oh yes he is -- but I also believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was in a war."

Sounds a tad like Jim Jones of the Peoples Temple. Bring out the Kool Aid!

Posted by: 876jnr | September 2, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Well, since most of the nation is uneducated rednecks, this family will be perfect as a representation of the majority of families.

Shoot wild animals out of season?

Got a knocked-up teenage daughter?

Future shotgun wedding son-in-law who calls himself a "f-ing redneck."

Live in the most middle-of-nowhere town in the middle of nowhere state?

This is perfect. All those 'Merican Rednecks in the South are going to love this family.

We'll call it the Washington Wedneck Whitehouse.

Posted by: Mike of Atlanta | September 2, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

As a Republican and a mother, I am concerned that Palin has a young baby with Down Syndrome and she is accepting a possible job with the White House which will take her away from her family, neglecting the needs of this young child. I am apalled and disgusted and this is why I am voting for Barr in November. McCain has lost his mind, and this woman seems very egotistical and selfish!

Posted by: Ashley | September 2, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans can spin the decision to choose Palin to the press as much as they want. The truth is it's going to cost McCain the election. No way would I want Palin as President. She's no Hilary Clinton.

Posted by: ltemple | September 2, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

she can catch a dick

Posted by: moosedong | September 2, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

This media "storm" about Palin is simply a DNC/friendly media pre-planned offensive to throw her off balance at the start and take attention away from Repubs in St. Paul. It is working, in that Obama friendly media such as NYT and CNN have the initiative over the 3 day holiday.

The have succeded for now, by keeping "the news" is about Palins fishing license, her husbands DUI 25 years ago, and her child's pregnancy. This fluff will not last though.

Posted by: pgr88 | September 2, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

John McCain had one opportunity to show his judgement and he did. His choice would be the Spiro Agnew of the 21st century. It is not even the person who he wanted. I do not agree with Joe Lieberman and think he is wrong on the issue of foreign policy but he is competent. Tom Ridge is a less qualified candidate but is not someone to be ashamed of. Sarah Palin is unfit to be vice president and that conclusion is irrespective of how good she is in the debates.

The only thing she should do is withdraw.

Posted by: Ronnn | September 2, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

And what, pray tell, MarkF, is a "real American?" Why do I suspect your definition will look a lot like you? Well, guess what? I'm a real American, too, and I think Palin is just the latest flavor of Republican hypocrite that wants to mind everyone else's family situation while loudly proclaiming her own as out of bounds. No wonder you like her. Take the beam from thine own eye, dude.

Posted by: Real American | September 2, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

The media's phoniness and hypocrisy are so transparent. They're obsessed about fishing licenses but won't spend five minutes investigating their Messiah and his associations with an America-loathing terrorist like Ayers.

No worries. They'll be eating crow soon enough.

(And they'll be out of a job.)

Posted by: j.a.m. | September 2, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't think that I would be running for VPOTUS if I had an infant with Down's and a teenager who is pregnant. I would and to be close by my family. Any thoughts?

Posted by: 1BLSDNUPE | September 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the Evangelical Manchurian Candidate. She has a Pentecostal upbringing and the corrupt tendencies of an Alaska Republican. That combination of self righteousness, judgmentalism, and the ability to rationalize away anything that gets in the way of her narrow minded agenda is extremely dangerous. It also explains why the worst of the GOP base are so excited about this pick despite the sideshow that came with it,

Posted by: Steve O | September 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm happy she was picked. Lieberman would have picked up independent voters but she'll only pull in the ones who were voting for McCain anyway. I really really hope they keep her.

Posted by: Diane | September 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey roboturkey:

Keep on calling anyone who lives outside your 20 year-old world in some city of 10 million "The Clampetts." That'll win you the election. (It's also doing a lot for your arguments that Republicans are hypocrites and Dems are more tolerant, not to mention smart.)

What a self-satisfied child.

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm most worried about her attempt to ban books at the library when she was mayor. Did McCain know about this?

Posted by: cta | September 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Mitt Romney could have pulled the base together just as well and avoided all of this speculating about his past. He could have raised more money, too. I'll wait and see, but I would have been on board with Romney right off.

Posted by: marov1 | September 2, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm interested to see Palin in action. The assumption is that 99 percent of the banter so far is garbage. Like to see her alone in a townhall with real people asking questions, including some of the blogger creeps with the drivel and looney theories.

Posted by: bri | September 2, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Utterly reckless! What else can we say about a man who choses an unvetted VP -- a heartbeat away from the presidency -- on a lark?

Posted by: Chris S. | September 2, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are a little overconfident here. Wait till the Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers commercials startup again. As far as VP picks, Obama actually got a negative bounce for picking Biden. Also, Hillary would not be senator for New York if she was not married to Bill Clinton. This lady Palin is self made.

Posted by: PCG | September 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

No one but the looney right can take this women seriously? I mean doesn't she need to learn to run a house first before she's VP?

What world leader would take her seriously? One look and the snicker would begin.

Palin is a hard pander to the right, McCain wanted Lieberman which would of been the prudent choice, instead he found someone that would foam the mouths of the religious right in this country.

Posted by: darr | September 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

This is what Carly Fiorina said today, about Obama's 'sexist' remark that he had more executive experience running his campaign than Palin did as governor of Alaska:

Fiorina: "Because of Hillary Clinton's historic run for the presidency and the treatment she received, American women are more highly tuned than ever to recognize and decry sexism in all its forms. They will not tolerate sexist treatment of Gov. Palin."

I find it very amusing that McCain's camp is not only insulting Hillary voters with this blather, but they are accusing Obama of sexism. Uh, the ONLY reason that Palin was picked as McCain's running mate is because she is a young, pretty female. If that is not sexism, then WHAT IS????

There were plenty of other, much more qualified people he could have picked, who shared Palin's ideology and who would have been much more capable. But NO... he had to pick the Babe with the Five Kids, just for show.

Fiorina was right. America will NOT tolerate this sexist treatment of Palin by her OWN party, and that is why Obama will be elected. Jeez Louise, how stupid do they think Americans really ARE?

Man, this Republican spin machine just will NOT wind down. People have had enough and they are NOT going to fall for this B.S. again!!!

Posted by: mavis beacon | September 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I do bellieve McCain vetted Sarah Palin as thoroughly as the others on his "short list".

However, most of the others on the "short list" had a long national history which didn't require a ton of interviews or research to vet. Lieberman, Romney, Ridge, and the rest (if they were actually on the list) had long histories in the national spotlight, and any real negatives would have surfaced long ago.

Googling doesn't come close to actually speaking to people that know a potential candidate, but that appears to be the McCain team's extent of "vetting" Ms. Palin.

Posted by: Steve | September 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Palin has more political experience than Obama.

FACT.

Posted by: Anon | September 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Palin could be indicted right before the election.

Nice pick Old John. Like bringing in The Clampetts.

Posted by: roboturkey | September 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree:

"Wow! Her husband had a DWI a quarter century ago! (Gasp) She may have worn a Buchanan button in the 90s?! (Say it ain't so).

If this carnival succeeds in driving a good woman off a national ticket what good will have been done? Message: Unless you envisioned yourself (Obama-style) rising to the White House pre-puberty and have expunged all human sins (also, all real accomplishments) from your record and your life, forget about the presidency or v-presidency.

"What is really interesting is that the Palins' recognizable humanity and imperfections highlight the truly weird antiseptic quality of the Obama biography. Air-brushed lives. Creepy, no?"

Posted by: John | September 2, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, I'd been away and forgotten ol' JakeD. Well, JakeD... nah, I ain't even gonna ask how you can square this ridiculous VP pick with the drivel you have been spewing for months about Obama being not up to the job. You are just a vessel that better paid people fill with talking points which you then regurgitate as comments. McCain just peed on your head (and made a mockery of his whole country before party malarkey) and you will no doubt tell us it is rain. Could you perhaps name ONE VP pick that McCain might have made that you wouldn't have declared brilliant?

Posted by: Half-jaked | September 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/unsurprised.html

Tuesday, September 02, 2008
Unsurprised

"No Surprises From Palin, McCain Team Says"-Washington Post


Senior McCain officials described themselves as "unsurprised" today as huge storms of locusts flew from Wasilla, Alaska and descended upon McCain campaign headquarters. "Locusts were vetted. Locusts were vetted in the vet" said one campaign official, who spoke without attribution out of concern that he would be devoured by a verminous flying cloud. The campaign also said that they were nonplussed by reports that the rivers were running black with ashes, that family pets were begin to speak in human voices, declaiming "Release Sarah!", and that a huge spreading stain was beginning to blot out the Northern sun. "Vetted", said the campaign.

"There are exciting new studies that show that locusts can be used as a source of biodegradable fuel" said Newt Gingrich, as he hunkered down to avoid the black marble obelisks falling from the sky around him. "Palin, if she can be said to have played a role in bringing about these new biofuel resources, should be praised for her innovative role in the solution to our future energy demands".

"These events firmly demonstrate Palin's deep connection to traditional modes of traditional expression, in traditional forms, traditionally." said William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard. "Experience, in the face of these more traditional events, is overrated..." continued Kristol, before ending the interview to wrap himself head-to-toe in mosquito netting and swallowing a bitter tasting anti-malarial drug, the taste of which, as his lips contorted, he noted to be "surprisingly refreshing."

Palin's schedule in the upcoming days of the Republican National Convention has been cut short due to, as one McCain communications aide reported, a desire not to "let the magic out of the bottle too quickly." "Sarah is a precious resource, who each moment brings a new vitality and energy to every worker on the campaign" said the aide, while fighting to remove the nest of serpents which had suddenly materialized on the floor beneath him, and were now slowly ascending his legs. "Do these bite, or just slink?" asked the aide, who spoke on conditions of anonymity so as not to provoke or otherwise alienate the reptiles.

Meanwhile, as the heavens darkened, the seas began to boil, and a deep voice tore through the clouds shouting, in stentorian tones to one and all: "It was a Mistake!", campaign offices described themselves as "unperturbed". "Serpents materializing, house pets suddenly called to vocal advocacy, Celestial callings to revise and repent...Vetted" said the spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity as he was turning into a pillar of salt. "Everything that was vetted was vetted in the vet."

Cite:
Head of State:
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/unsurprised.html

Posted by: Robert Hewson | September 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

The MSM just doesn't get it! Sarah Palin is a real class act, strong Christian woman, and a woman of principle. These really are foreign concepts in secular, atheistic America.

Or maybe the MSM really does get this and is truly afraid of how incredibly popular she is destined to be?

Real Americans love her already, and this has the media elites and baby-killing secularists running scared. And she's a heck of a lot more Catholic then liberal baby-killing Joe Biden!

Posted by: MarkF | September 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"The McCain campaign knows what they believe about her"

Stike that. Reverse it.
The McCain campaign believes what they (think they) know about her.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I hope Palin will not be charged to reform the “No Child Left Behind” Law:
One out of 20 children entering ninth grade in Alaska will have a college degree 10 years later, making the state one of the worst in postsecondary-education in the nation. Alaska's efforts to improve the dropout problem have also sunk. More than one in three ninth-graders will leave school before getting a diploma. These results from a new state study released today show a faltering Alaska education system.
The report found Alaska ranking at the bottom of educational attainment indicators -- from getting children through high school to achieving an advanced degree in a timely manner. Alaska is 8th from the bottom in the nation among states in the number of ninth-graders graduating four years later. 4th from the bottom in high school seniors going directly to college. Last in the number of college freshmen receiving a bachelor's degree within 150 percent of the normal program length.
"This really sends the message of how immediate the need is and the gravity of the situation," said Diane Barrans, executive director of the state's Postsecondary Education Commission, which released this study.
The problem is cultural. Alaska is a state of individualism, people doing their own things. Most of the debates and policies are in extraction of resources and corruption control. “Like a sieve, kids are falling away and the State Government has not seriously figured how to address the issue," said the study's author, Ron Phipps, of the Washington, D.C. - based Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Posted by: janda | September 2, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I'll take a person with a true record of reform as opposed to someone who can only say they have a record of reform any day.

The daughter isn't the candidate - sarah is.

I suppose she would have been a hero to liberalism had she drug her daughter down to the local abortionist to have the childs brains drained into a sink - yeah think about it; then her and NOscama could have been running mates.

Posted by: Robert Campbell | September 2, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has done the republican Party and its members a huge disservice by selecting Sara Palin as his running mate. Governor Pain is a small town, small state political operative. Her personal views are radical compared with mainstream Americans; her personal life reflects living on the wild side with her moral and family values, especially considering the conservative religious positions she advocates. Her political flip-flop on earmark funding is remarkable. McCain, if he ever had solid judgment skills, has fooled himself big time with the Sara Palin selection.

Posted by: Lou R | September 2, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

See: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/us/politics/02vetting.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&8au&emc=au

Now, the truth is starting to come out about the reckless, cavalier, and dangerous decision made by McSame to place Sarah (knock 'em up) Palin on the ticket. If this is the type of decision making to be expected of McSame in the White House, then he is a very dangerous man indeed to even be considered for the presidency. Hopefully, the American people (this doesn't include mentally deranged social conservatives) will wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late. Obama/Biden 08!!!

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 2, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I learned yesterday that the far left is every bit the same as white supremacists or any other hate group. Frothing, bitter hatred of what this girl supposedly represents for getting pregnant early: lack of education, "trailer parks," irresponsibility, failure to "nip it in the bud" (to be euphemistic), stupidity. Problem is, teenage pregnancy is not the problem of a single party or political spectrum. What has emerged is the incredible contempt these far left people have for ordinary Americans who don't fit the common mold of PPDs (heard that one yesterday: Peacoat, Prius, and Dog!!!). I was an independent long before it was fashionable, and was actually very moved by Mr. Obama's speech last week. But if these are the kind of people who are going to gain power by his election, with their eugenics-minded hatred, I am now fully backing McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Boulder | September 2, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Of course there are "revelations". The Democrats and the press, especially the liberal MSM, were geared up to find dirt on whoever McCain picked. As a relative unknown, Palin presented serious challenges, so some sources had to make things up (e.g., the youngest child was actually her daughter's, she is a member of some secret, extreme religious cult). Several unsubstantiated opinions may be found among these comments. Failing that, they turned to sexist attacks, showing the hypocrisy of liberals who profess belief in freedom and rights for women. They've also tried to sneer at her small-town roots, consistent with Obama's "cling to guns and religion" statement. This liberal "vetting" of Governor Palin provides particularly helpful insight into how Democrats work.

The real "dirt" they've turned up has been a small handful of tiny granules. Keep digging, liberals!

Posted by: MikeS | September 2, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

This was McCain's first decision as a Presidential candidate and he blew it. I know that he has been quoted as saying that the VP goes to funerals (that is their job). But, even though Palin will look good at a state funeral, it is McCain's funeral I am worried about if this woman were to become President.

Posted by: Keith | September 2, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Having an avowed creationist as a major player on a ticket is pretty damn scary in this day and age.

Of course, the folks here like Jake D that believe that humans played with the dinosaurs are entitled to their vote. It's just sad that they're so anti-science (and you wonder why we're starting to lag behind in the life sciences).

Saw this sign at a church in Texas

Reason is the Greatest Enemy of Faith.

Yep, let the witchhunt of all scientists start up. Repthugs rule!!!

Posted by: Faith based governing | September 2, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Sally or Sam F.:

Are you still here?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

The GOP have been the biggest hyppocrites over the last 8 years (includes torture, bogus war on terror, homeland insecurity, sending soldiers to their death on lies and deceit, killing of millions of people worldwide in support of neo-con armageddon).

Palin's private life is nobody's business, but when she runs on a platform of ignorance and falls prey to her own words then I think it's time we sent a Costco size box of condoms to the McCain campaign and tell them to keep the baby, but abort the cadidate!

Posted by: gopsuxDom | September 2, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

She wants to teach creationism as a science and she is against sex education.

Hmmm, wonder why her unwed daughter is pregnant if Mom is too policy oriented to teach her the basics of sex. What irony.

Posted by: Sex ed bad, pregnant unwed daughter good | September 2, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

The GOP have been the biggest hyppocrites over the last 8 years (includes torture, bogus war on terror, homeland insecurity, sending soldiers to their death on lies and deceit, killing of millions of people worldwide in support of neo-con armageddon).

Palin's private life is nobody's business, but when she runs on a platform of ignorance and falls prey to her own words then I think it's time we sent a Costco size box to the McCain campaign and tell them to keep the baby, but abort the cadidate!

Posted by: gopsuxDOTcom | September 2, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Her husband had a DWI a quarter century ago! (Gasp) She may have worn a Buchanan button in the 90s?! (Say it ain't so).

If this carnival succeeds in driving a good woman off a national ticket what good will have been done? Message: Unless you envisioned yourself (Obama-style) rising to the White House pre-puberty and have expunged all human sins (also, all real accomplishments) from your record and your life, forget about the presidency or v-presidency.

What is really interesting is that the Palins' recognizable humanity and imperfections highlight the truly weird antiseptic quality of the Obama biography. Air-brushed lives. Creepy, no?

Posted by: Clio1 | September 2, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I knew deep down inside the GOP would do or say something to help Hillary supporters remember why they joined the Democratic Party in the first place. Palin is a gift.


And yes, Republicans should be embarrased for lowering the bar even lower than George W. Bush. I mean bless her heart and everything, but to have your No.2 from a state with less people in it than Wake County, North Carolina is flat out ridiculous. 2 years ago she faced the challenge of...a town of 6,000? I have more people than that in my voting district!


Thanks, but no thanks, Sarah.

Posted by: tony the pitiful copywriter | September 2, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain not Palin is the problem. She is a political lightweight who has never been vetted. He wants to be president but does not want to do his duty and vet his VP nominee. Last Thursday was a bit late for sending people to Alaska to look into her backgroud. That was a day after he chose her as his running mate.

Are we supposed to take McCain as a serious candidate or just as someone who would like to play being president but has no inclination to take the job seriously.

Posted by: Ronnn | September 2, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: 24AheadDotCom | September 2, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Palin is lame because she is Anti-Woman as much as Hillary was Pro-Woman.

Its just insane to think is will appeal to us Hillary supporters.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Alaska First.... Alaska Always.


Posted by: JakeD's shadow | September 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

She needs to work on her family, not run away from them to DC to get rich on Oil money.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Sally:

Thank God that Palin is no Hillary -- that's the one choice for VP that would have made me NOT vote for the GOP ticket this time around -- why do you think this pick was "lame"?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Sam F.:

If you really are a Republican, please know that plenty of Reagan Democrats and Independents are going to vote for McCain-Palin (not even Reagan was "perfect").

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh the poor McCain/Palin kool-aid drinkers are fooling themselves but not the rest of us. Once McCain has a health scare or concern between now and the election, Palin will be thrown right back in front of the media spotlight as the next President of the United States. The mere thought of Palin executing the War on Terror and fixing the economy by herself scares me and millions of others senseless.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin is no Hillary. This pick is just lame.

Posted by: Sally | September 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Conspiracy Theory:
McCain camp picked Palin to appease the right wing, social conservative nutjobs of the party, but knew that she wouldn't last. Then with her dropping out McCain is free to pick Lieberman or Ridge. The nutjobs will blame the media and Obama. McCain gets his way in the end. Palin is out by next week.
Any takers?


Posted by: JakeD's shadow | September 2, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I understand why McCain won't release his mental health records now.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"Next?"

I think all us Republicans are thinking the same thing....who's next? This year we've not put up anything to be proud of...hopefully in 4 years we'll have new (qualified) faces to select from.

-SF

Posted by: Sam F. | September 2, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Anti-JakeD:

No, I cannot say that I supported Obama from the time he entered the presidential race nor do I feel confident that Biden can step in at any to become president.

Next question?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama is "The One" not ready to be Commander-in-Chief (even of the Alaska National Guard ; )

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I will be voting for Obama/Biden. I supported Obama from the time he entered the presidential race. I support and feel confident that Biden can step in at any to become president.

Can JakeD say that?

Posted by: Anti-JakeD | September 2, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Considering that Palin wants to break up the United States, she is about the WORST choice for a national office.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Bad judgment, reckless, impulsive and bad temper. Sounds like McCain, not the kind of president I want.

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Shooting the Foot is more like it...

But, no worries for the GOP, Republicans will figure a way to lie their way out of this.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I have no doubt that Palin will give a well-received speech Wednesday night, but if she cries she will reinforce the concept to Republican men that a woman is not ready to be Commander-n-Chief or Commander-n-Chief in-waiting.

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 2, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm still voting for McCain-Palin. Next?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

It's over for No-Pain McCain.

I guess McCain's campaign needed more money to vet Palin. Once he got the boost of money from announcing her as his VP, McCain has now got 12 aides and a lawyer flying to Alaska to vet Palin!

Oops, TOO LATE!

Posted by: Obama-Junkie | September 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

The daughter's pregnancy isn't the issue. The concern is that if John McCain picked his possible successor on a last-minute whim, what does that say about his decision-making abilities? Remember that Bush's biggest mistake with Iraq was rushing in there without evaluating what his State Dept. advisors were warning him about. Do we really want another quick-shootin' red-faced angry guy leading our country?

Posted by: gpbrown | September 2, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Any wagers on when John McCain will call Palin a c*nt? I think early on his marriage to Cindy, he let the expletives fly.

Posted by: JakeD's shadow | September 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

You have some Balz, Dan.

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's motto:
Alaska First.... Alaska Always,
Country Second,
Family: A Distant Third.


Posted by: JakeD's shadow | September 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

CONFIRMED:

Her husband was member of fringe Alaska Independence Party until 2002.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/aip_questions_responses.php

Posted by: David | September 2, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

"Hurricane" Palin? REALLY? While people are DYING from real hurricanes, you are going to lead with that?

Posted by: JakeD | September 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

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