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The Politics of Polarization


Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) listens as his running mate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks during a campaign rally at Van Dyke Park September 10, 2008 in Fairfax, Va. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

By Dan Balz
On Thursday, the seventh anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, John McCain and Barack Obama will come together in New York for a moment of unity and reconciliation. They will be praised for setting aside politics, for at least a few hours, to commemorate lives lost and a nation changed.

Meanwhile, the presidential campaign they are waging is helping to harden the partisan divisions that have defined the country's politics for a decade or more. Rather than finding ways to bring about real reconciliation, the campaign is fostering the further polarization of the country. Good luck to the winner, who will then try to govern in the aftermath.

Perhaps this is inevitable in a hard-fought campaign. Perhaps it is unavoidable. What else are conventions for if not to rally the bases of the two political parties? September and October of election years are always the most partisan months of any cycle. Why should 2008 be any different?

Who would not expect either McCain or Obama to fight as hard as possible to win one of the most consequential elections in a generation? They are not free agents. They lead the two major political parties in this country, and the stakes of this election are high. As Gov. Ted Strickland of Ohio said recently, they are obligated to do so.

For all the talk about ending business as usual, what is taking place is a reminder that the forces that have controlled politics for many years are now deeply ingrained. The notion of a Red versus Blue America may oversimplify the state of our politics. It may obscure some realities of a country that agrees across party lines on many things. But there is no question that the partisan lines -- and the attitudes underlying them -- are real and remain so at the end of George W. Bush's presidency. A few speeches and some good intentions will not erase all this. The old ways are too seductive for either side to resist.

Right now, the focus is rightly on McCain's campaign -- for crying foul in such exaggerated fashion over Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment as a slur on Sarah Palin, for stretching the truth on Palin's position on the Bridge to Nowhere and for accusing Obama of promoting sex education for kindergarten children.

The fact-checkers are working overtime to call his campaign to account, as my colleague Jonathan Weisman wrote in Wednesday's Post. But in a 24/7, constant news cycle environment, there is no way for most people to keep up as the charges and countercharges fly back and forth. What sticks is the reinforcement of the partisan prisms through which more voters now see the election.

Democrats are outraged by the latest turn of events and determined to fight fire with fire. They are also increasingly nervous about what they see as a shift in the campaign's tempo and momentum, with McCain now on offense and Obama back on his heels.

They want Obama to show his partisan mettle by stepping up his attacks on McCain and Palin. Republicans want him to apologize to Palin for the lipstick comment. He declined to do that Wednesday morning in Virginia and accused the McCain campaign of reverting to the worst of the old politics. To all of it, he cried, "Enough!"

Republicans were in the same place a week ago as the rumors about Palin began coursing across the Internet the day after her selection as McCain's running mate. They were outraged by the attacks, and furious over the media frenzy touched off by her choice (which they saw incorrectly as an extension of Obama's campaign).

Obama made a forceful statement saying that the children and families of the candidates should be off-limits. But that did not quiet the storm or tamp down on the partisan shots aimed at Palin.

McCain and Palin have been silent on the lipstick controversy, preferring to let their advisers and surrogates do the work for them. It would be valuable to hear their assessment of it. If they're not prepared to associate themselves directly with the tactics of their campaign, voters should know it.

Both sides now see themselves as victims. Palin and McCain are using the attacks on her to energize the Republican base and to appeal to undecided women. At the McCain-Palin rally in Virginia Wednesday morning, Fred Thompson said the Alaska governor is under a vicious attack that is unprecedented in American politics.

Obama is looking to the electorate to penalize McCain for crossing the line in his attacks and for what his advisers say is a cynical effort to distract attention away from real issues. And they are calling out the media for falling into a trap set by the McCain campaign.

And so, in that atmosphere, McCain and Obama will pause Thursday in New York for what will be a day of solemn reflection and an evening discussion of the meaning of service. Both are eloquent on these topics and speak with a certain amount of authenticity.

Both seem committed to trying to govern in a less partisan way if they are elected. But there may be a certain amount of hollowness to their words on Thursday, given the angry prelude to the day's events. Even putting lipstick on the campaign won't do much at this point.

By Web Politics Editor  |  September 10, 2008; 2:52 PM ET
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Comments

WaPo has it wrong again.

Balz has it completely upside down.

McBush and Gov Appaling have wallowed in the mud. They broadcast the lie, wink-wink, and blatant attempts at racisim.

Yet, somehow Balz doesn't see it.

Tell me again why this Balz guy is called a journalist?

Posted by: Continuum | September 15, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is simply beyond my disappointment. He has no principles to hold. Hiding behind Palin's skirt and throwing circus to the vulgar, cynical or what?

Posted by: Stunnd | September 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

John McCain wrote:

Hello, I'm John McCain, a former POW. There was a time when I didn't have lipstick and I didn't have a pig. And even if I had, the Vietnamese guard would not have let me put the lipstick on the pig. Now, I don't care if you vote for me or not, but I do care about the right to put lipstick on a pig.

I tried to put lipstick on Gov. Palin, but she said, "Thanks, but no thanks. If I want lipstick, I'll go out and shoot a Polar Bear and make lipstick from its blood."

I tried to put lipstick on Cindi, but she said, "I've already got three coats of primer and face paint. Any more, and I'll look like Heath Ledger in that Batman movie."

Please vote for me. I've lost all my integrity, but if you vote for me, I'll give you a house. Did I tell you that I was a POW?

I'm John McCain, a former POW, and I approved this message.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

As I see by these postings, McCain has been successful beyond his wildest dreams. No, McCain-Palin do not build bridges and do not mess with silly things like "hope" and "the country." They are giving us more of the same - divide, divide, divide. Makes us point fingers at each other and curse. How sad it is that we keep falling for the same one tricks. How sad it is that a man I once thought rather highly of - McCain - turned out to be another slimeball. I hate what they do to us as a nation. I hate what we have allowed ourselves to become.

When the issues are on your side, run with the issues. When the issues are against you, slime your opponent. I guess we know that McCain knows he cannot win on the issues. Well, folks, we will have to live with the result. Unite to become a country once more or sink in the well of debt this country is in..

Posted by: Nora03 | September 11, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

The truth is finally out: John McCain is a lying pig. He's as much as shouted it from the rooftops.

Posted by: CT | September 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

This type of "fair and balanced" reporting is rediculous. Why do reporters always try to balance reporting by saying, "John McCain has been negative, but so has Obama". It's pretty clear that McCain is running a dishonorable campaign, possibly much worse than the Swift Boat campaign lodged against Kerry. He is trying to distract the gullible low-information voters with flimsy, misleading attacks and outright lies. But after reading this article, you would think both sides are equally guilty. I am so sick of the media doing this. Have some balls and call out the McCain campaign for what it is. We don't need to be stuck with another 4 years of George Bush.

Posted by: EricE | September 11, 2008 7:56 AM | Report abuse

That attack ad on Obama about teaching sex ed to kindergartners is the most vile, dishonorable thing I have ever seen. Obama was trying to protect them from inapropriate touching and pedophiles!!!! It's final, McCain, by "approving this message" has lowered himself to absolute scumbag. There is no excuse for this, and someone with no honor cannot be president. Mr. McCain, you are the LOWEST of the LOW!

Posted by: McCain is a SCUMBAG! | September 11, 2008 5:29 AM | Report abuse

If John McCain is elected President of the United States, all of the people who vote for Barack Obama and a large number of the people who vote Republican as a vote for Sarah Palin do not want John McCain as President. John McCain would actually be elected by one of the smallest number of supporting votes in American history. John McCain would then be the President, but he will have very little real support or enthusiasm from the American people. And probably Congress as well.

Posted by: Robert Wells | September 11, 2008 4:23 AM | Report abuse

I think most of the comments above miss the main point of Dan Balz's piece. He says that, in all probability, Barack Obama and John McCain both want to reach out 'across the aisle'. I believe this is true.

Dan says also that, sadly, the 'system' will not allow them to campaign this way. I was thinking of this while watching the RNC and came to the same conclusion.

So many of us want to believe those stirring words in Obama's keynote address to the 2004 DNC 'There is no red America, no blue America, only the United States of America'. Unfortunately, it is not true.

Because if it were true, the McCain campaign could not have turned the tables on Obama simply by putting Ms Nobody from Nowhere on the ticket. (No offense to Ms Palin or Alaska.)

John McCain wanted to run with Lieberman because this is aligned with his avowed intent to govern 'across the aisle'.
Steve Schmidt said,
'John, you wanna win this or lose it?'
and pointed out that McCain/Lieberman loses because 'red America' would be massively underwhelmed by a pro-choice VP.
'Hell, John, we'd have trouble getting out of the Convention Hall alive!'

Naturally, as a power politician McCain wants to win.
'Ok, Steve,' he says, resignedly 'Tell me how?'

Steve did and the result you see.

Now first, this is not to say that Schmidt has gotten the ticket elected. There's a long way to go yet. However, there is no question that the selection of Ms Palin aroused the 'red-meat' base from its slumber, and caught the Obama campaign as well as the media off-guard and flat-footed.

Neither is there doubt that McCain campaigns more effectively with Ms Palin at his side. An odd couple, to be sure, but they do look good on tv. Expect them to be joined at the hip for the remainder of the campaign.

Second, if the situations were reversed ie. incompetent outgoing Administration is democratic and McCain, thinking himself in the lead, makes a conservative choice for VP, I would expect Obama to conjour up a democratic equivalent of Ms Palin.

By which I am suggesting that the electorate Nationwide is so polarized that whoever is losing a Presidential election will reach for the 'polarization' card to level the playing field.

If you carry this thought through to its logical conclusion, you arrive where Joe Lunchpail got by consulting his gut. The system is broke.

The tiny light on the horizon is that either candidate in this election, though each will do what he has to do to win, will probably try to make good on his promise to govern 'across the aisle', insofar as the system allows him to do this.

Maybe then Congress will come to life and some things will get done that should have been done years ago, but weren't, because of partisan bickering.

Even the darkest cloud has a potential silver lining. Right, Dan?


Posted by: Rob Bentley | September 11, 2008 4:08 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Balz,

Must say, I am somewhat disappointed. But, I have also come to respect your journalistic integrity. These are unusual and perilous times for our country. I was expecting an outright condemnation of The McCain strategy. This type of commentary leaves ample room for them to continue-and the younger self-indulgent journalists to keep covering the elections (sometimes) as an sport event. It seems to me that quite a few in the media have allowed themselves to indulge in partisan commentary during this long and unsual election cycle, and therefore turn to sports metaphors in 'balancing' their record of covering the candidates. Obama enthusiasts, talk of Governor Palin pick by Senator McCain 'as a stroke of genius" a "bold move" and so on- who is going to ask if our good Governor from Alaska, is ready to take possesion of the nuclear codes; what does this say about McCain's trashing of Obama on 'experience' and so on. These are meta-issues, that the journalists need to keep the candidates feet to their fire, until it is reasonably addressed.
But, Thank you, nevertheless, for this and all your previous reporting.

Posted by: robert4 | September 11, 2008 4:01 AM | Report abuse

[I feel sorry for the constituents in Arizona who never get any "pork" from the Federal Government because McSame never requests any earmarks for Arizona.]

McCain hasn't done much for AZ and it's not like we don't need infrastructure help.

Posted by: Steve J. | September 11, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Balz's is taking false-equivalency to new levels. Mr. Balz, the McCain campaign is running a dishonorable campaign full of outright lies, serial distortions, and vicious personal attacks in order to obscure and even eclipse the fact that the Republican Party has degenerated into a band of criminals.

McCAIN IS DISHONORABLE. Any honest American knows that McCain is running an unprincipled campaign based on Rovian character ass asination.

McCain's camp is riddled with lobbyists working for foreign governments. Many of McCain's lobbyists are directly responsible for the economic mess the country is in (google: Gramm Enron loophole), and all the Republicans can do is try to tell the big lies often enough and loud enough while demonizing the media for pointing out that the McCain camp is continuously LYING.

Mr. Balz, your false equivalency has now made you complicit in concealing Republican lies. Show some courage, speak the truth, half the country will love you for it. And remember, no matter how sycophantically you treat Republicans, REPUBLICANS WILL ALWAYS HATE YOU because your part of the media they have to villify in order to damage the messenger so that the Republican message of lies flows freely.

http://HavenWorks.com/media

Posted by: Save the Media | September 11, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Mark Davis, McCain campiagn co-manager, told that to the WaPo:

McCain Manager: 'This Election is Not About Issues'
THE FIX
Chris Cilizzaa
Washington Post

September 2, 2008; 1:07 PM ET

Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain's presidential bid, insisted that the presidential race will be decided more over personalities than issues during an interview with Post editors this morning.

"This election is not about issues," said Davis. "This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates."

Posted by: Steve J. | September 11, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Check out McCain using the term lipstick on a pig


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM


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Check out McCain using the term lipstick on a pig


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM

Posted by: EWW | September 11, 2008 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Obama is imploding before our eyes. He is angry, sweating; former decriptions of McCain. Funny how a woman on the ticket, lost his mojo. Should have chosen Clinton, and not the senator from MBNA.

Posted by: sydney6 | September 11, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

For God's sakes Mr Balz, just take a stand.
For an occasional observer like me, its clear that the Palin-McCain campaign is the one that is hollow and untruthful in the recent weeks. Why dont you just take a stand and say so. That will have the effect of maybe dampening the flow of this trash from them. It is when people like you dont take positions, somehow contrive it to suggest that both campaigns are responsible and so on, that the trash becomes a gift that keeps on giving for those who originate them - since at this time the issues are not their friend. Perception, not talking umeployment and deficits etc., the unpopularity of our nation abroad etc. are all issues that the McCain campaign has figured that it is not to their advantage to talk about. How can we pick a President based on what Steve Schimdt and Rick Davis tell us or think we should know.

Mr Balz, you do need to take a stand. Call a Spade a spade - no need to continuosly put up a facade of balance or even handedness. We wont fault you for calling a spade a spade. Call the ridiculous McCain out on this one and set him straight. Let us decide between him and Obama in a legitimate way.

Posted by: rocky | September 11, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

cmon you guys and gals now that you know what Washinton was hoping for you may restart this discussion with renewed vigor and a better sense of perspective on where we came from and where we ALL hope to go.
I am ashamed to say that his words speak in condemnation of us all and me included.

Posted by: steve | September 11, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe how fast this campaign has gotten nasty & dirty!!! Now all the news media outlets can talk about is a "pig comment"!!! Its amazing to me that when McBlame says the SAME comment in regards to Hillary's health care proposal NO ONE accused him of calling her a pig. But of course, NOW when OBAMA says the same comment, he's accused of calling Palin a pig. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!! Is this actually the behavior of rational mature adults or are we back in jr. high school? I just watched FOX/fix news and they're actually implying that YES Obama meant to call her a pig while they convienently ommitted McShame's same comment about Hillary. Now, that doesn't surprise me at all of course since everyone knows how slanted they are to RepubliCONs. But now every other media outlet is hopping on the same bandwagon. Lets be fair people! It seems to me we should have one rule. If Obama was calling Palin a pig, then McCain was calling Hillary Clinton one. If McCain wasn't, then Obama wasn't. End of story. Focus on the friggin' issues and leave this childish crap on the playground!! We are being cheated people. Cheated out our 1 chance to REALLY make a difference in our children's lives. McCain talks about change then turns around and hires Steve Schmidt & Rick Davis to head his campaign. The same men who ran Bush's campaign in '00. The same men who were behind the smear campaign AGAINST MCCAIN in SC by suggesting his adopted black daughter was really his illegitimate love child!!! Does that matter to McShame? HELL NO!!! Its all about winning now and ALL the stops are being pulled out. Lets face it, at his age (72) this is his last shot at the Oval office and he's going to do EVERYTHING to acheive his goal. Even run the kind of negative campaign he swore he wouldn't. Even if it means using Karl Rove behind the scenes. After all, "Bush's Brain" did such a great job beating him before, didn't he???

Matter of fact, I think its time to take this criminal out of the equation don't you?!?

http://sendkarlrovetojail.com

Wake up people...Our country needs you to make the right choice! Eight is Enough!!!!!!

Posted by: Kimberly | September 11, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

The smell of utter absolute panic is wafting through Washington and select swing states

McCain's team with Rove the gnomish little man behind the curtain have been giving it the best they’ve got - which given the vetting of their veep, doesn’t say much. (And how about that amateurish convention - why did no one report on *that*?)

So now that today's non-news debacle, staged just to keep the thickheads from realizing there's no there there when it comes to Palin, what do we have to look forward to next? Tomorrow’s ‘lipstick-on-a-pig’ moment, no doubt - a manufactured outrage sweeping the blogosphere on special instructions from that draft-dodging addict Uncle Rush.

Tomorrow's brewing whine seems to center around the debacle of DNC performing opposition research on the opposition (isn’t that what a professionally run campaign is supposed to do? Oh, wait, since the GOP failed to research John's running-mate, that probably means it’s not fair…)

And when *that* doesn’t stick, it will be back to their favorites from the old greatest hits album:

1. Obama dissed Hillary

2. It’s all over - he should be farther ahead

3. Eeek - Socialism!

4. Taxes - oh the humanity!

5. Obama appeals only to elitists ... er, only to minorities ... er, only to the deviants on the coasts ... er, only to the FRENCH

6. He called his white grandmother *white*

Posted by: Banker Chick | September 10, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

What's to know about Palin?

Here's what she has done:
-Troopergate
-Asked the head librarian if she was into banning books. When she said no, she was fired.
-Billed the taxpayers 700 dollars a night for a room in NYC to go to a conference.
-Was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it.
-Received $4,000 per person in earmarks when she was mayor of Wasilla.
-Is against abortion even in the case of rape and incest.
-Billed rape survivors for their police rape kits.
-Attends a church in which she stated from the pulpit that the Iraq war is a mission from God.
-Attends a church in which she watched someone advocate that Israel deserves terrorism since they aren't saved.

I think I know all I need to know...

Posted by: Sean | September 10, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS: Sarah Palin's therapist goes on the record!

Posted by: Virginia Gal | September 10, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

More lies of Palin published now in the NY Times. She is an excellent actress and deserve to win the OSCAR.
I'm thinking seriously to move for USA and to be candidate there. I need just to lie to win.

"Palin’s Pipeline Is Years From Being a Reality"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/us/politics/11pipeline.html?pagewanted=2&hp

HUGS FROM BRAZIL FOR ALL CONSCIOUS CITIZENS IN USA!!!!

Posted by: Dalmo | September 10, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Balz,

You say that attention is on the McCain campaign for "stretching the truth on Palin's position" on the Bridge to Nowhere.

There is an important difference between "stretching the truth" and telling a lie. Here is what Sarah Palin has said repeatedly: "I told Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’ on that Bridge to Nowhere. ‘If our state wanted a bridge’, I said, ‘we’d build it ourselves’." On what theory is this is an exaggerated truth rather than a lie? I do not believe that you have such a theory. Without one, what you say in your article is irresponsible journalism. It corrupts rather than informs our discourse, leading to a false relativism and nihilism in which there are no matters of fact and no lies. Everything is a matter of perspective. All are equally guilty and equally innocent.

Your article complains about politicians, attributing to them the low level and divisive nature of presidential campaign. Journalism such as your article aids and abets the fact-free, anything goes, truth is irrelevant political climate in which irresponsible and divisive rhetoric flourishes. Facts, reality, and the need to avoid obvious lies are removed as constraints. This does democracy a disservice.

I would be interested in hearing why Sarah Palin's repeated statements about the Bridge to Nowhere are not lies and why you have standing to complain about the state of the campaign.

Posted by: tman | September 10, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

'Obama being sandbagged"?????? Ohhh, I love that story!

Thank your party, people, in 1997, under Clinton and at the hands of the mega money pension fund managers and Dept. of the Treasury, Interior and HUD... for the beginning of the end as we did not know it.

That's when all the money and jobs and large cap companies really decided to "cut and run" on all of us. You had all better wake up and smell the roses and the coffee. Our country is being sold out from underneath all of us and every one of these politicians need to be held accountable. It is the laws that they have passed, the irresponsible policies they adhere to.... serving their own interests and those of other nations, over those of the United States and it's citizens.

We have become so corrupt in our dealings that it has become easy for our enemies to exploit our every defense. Your government(and mine) just took us from a 5 trilloin nat. debt to 10 on Sunday afternoon while you were watching the game.

Better keep our eyes on the game that's going on right underneath our noses.

Posted by: CRETIAN | September 10, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

More lies of Palin. She deserve to win a OSCAR. Excellent actress to deceive stupids in USA.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/us/politics/11pipeline.html?pagewanted=2&hp

HUGS FROM BRAZIL FOR ALL CONSCIOUS CITIZENS IN USA!!!!

Posted by: Dalmo | September 10, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

All of you should remember, if you read it ,or should read it if you haven't.Its English is antiquated but the intelligence is unmistakable. This first and greatest, by far, presidents farewell address. Read aND WEEP YOUR ALL Are FOOLS COMPARED TO THIS GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WASHINGTONS FAREWELL ADDRESS
Is as close as a google away.

Posted by: steve | September 10, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Contrary to Dan Balz protestations the media is an extension of Obama's campaign. No one has any respect for the media. Over 50% believe the media are trying to tear Palin down. Only 5% believe they are trying to build her up.

The opposite holds true for Obama. That's the way the people see it.

Sorry Dan your wrong.

Posted by: wendy | September 10, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

_kt_ ,

Maybe the reason you experience liberals to be the ones who get upset the most is that for the last 8 years the entire government has been controlled (except for the last 1.5 years in Congress) by conservatives. When you're in power, you can be calm, cool and collected. Remember the conservatives during the Clinton years? What about Rush Limbaugh and the dittoheads?

Bush has taken the country on a hard right turn with a take no prisoners approach. Bush and conservatives and let be made known that if you don't agree, you're not just wrong (which would be their right) but that you're unpatriotic. Do you have any sense for why liberals might be angered by this? I've been apalled. I have personally served Republican elected officials on the state and national level. I'm not lumping everyone into the same category. There are good people in both parties.

But, Rove's campaign style, which has now been bestowed to McCain, is to tell the biggest lies possible to confuse people. He has said this outright. "Take your candidates weakest areas and talk about them as strengths."

I voted, unfortunately, in 2000 as a slightly unengaged voter for Bush thinking I could basically trust his talk about being a "uniter, not a divider," having a humble foreign policy, and taking care of the environment, etc. I'm a moderate at heart. I was open to these kinds of moderate statements.

I was completely angered when he did the exact opposite as soon as possible. He literally told the biggest lies possible. I feel foolish to this day. Fortunately my state at the time went for Gore, so I at least didn't have that on my conscience.

It's abundantly clear that McCain, though I voted for him in the 2000 primaries, is completely disengenuous and a liar. I have 0 respect for him or Palin, who is even worse.

Posted by: MNobserver | September 10, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Real Brother here.

The Racists and White Supremacists(Black man hating lesbians) are again trying to steal the issues that Obama has raised and try to use them against him. These Idiots with this nonsense about Obama playing the Race Card are the most ridiculous. Its true that the community organize nonsense is simply codespeak for "he's Black".

But with that said, I don't think Obama should address these issues head on because he wins on the issues. Karl Rove's strategy, was to forget the issues and work on McCain's strength and that's the fact that he's WHITE. Rove drafted Palin because she was WHITE and good looking and just a Racist and anti-American and as DENSE as they come.

Rove knew that Obama wouldn't be able to attack Palin or call her a Pig with a Wig because they knew if Obama did that the Black man hating lesbians and the Racists and White Supremacists would go baserk.

Obama must stick to the issues and stay out of the mud.

TKCAL

Posted by: Realbrother | September 10, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/2779256/Barack-Obamania-makes-way-for-Sarah-Palinmania---US-Election-2008.html

Men- Check that picture out and tell me you don't want to sniff her undies.

My God is she HOT

Chevy - Educated Redneck & DEM Destroyer

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

The conservative republican pentecostal evangelical PAIN without their L, her big mouth, BA taking six year in journalism, in her star and stripes bikini and brandishing a scope mounted rifles comes across like a KKK, except the hood. Her hood is the warped in the flag, farting patriotism and GOP scripted delivery with the Nazi Karl Rove all over. The situation is even worst then racism when the totally inept and unqualified, forked tongued, corrupt to the hilt like McCain and the rest these SOBs are lying through their teeth as BUSH/CHENEY/ McCain and the rest of the conservative republicans have been doing for the last 8 years.
Racism is rife with hate, fear and republican patriotic feeding frenzy to control the hearts and minds of these misled and the gullible, brainwashed, programmed idiots, with blinders etc. The shout and cheer on que and drive around at high noon with their head lights on.

Unfortunately OBama has been sand bagged and yet he still is being a nice guy and offers the other cheak instead of taking on McCain, the fake war hero and Mr. Preferential treatment all his life. The bottom line is character, record, which in McCain's case is the worst ever in the history of the US Navy. The 72 year pitbull, with four bouts of cancer, murder of thousands on Vietnamese civilian and direct responsibility for the hideous incidence aboard the Carrier Forrestal. Where the son of the admiral ( CINPAC ) disobeyed direct orders of not removing the 1000 Lb bombs form his plane, and wet firing his jet engines, to harass and intimidate the pilot behind. Caused that so called stray rocket, and jarring the 1000 Lb bombs lose. The resulting explosion and fire killed 139 naval personnel, injured, maimed and crippled 179 others, destroyed 20 fighter jets and caused tens of billions in damage to the flight deck. Yet McCain the hot shot son of the admiral with minor injuries was first to be air lifted, rather then others with third degree burn. The Navy as usual sanitizes all the records and shoved everything under the rug.

The Lt. Commander son of the admirals version of his 5 years POW ordeal differs radical from other higher ranking military officers, who were POWs much longer. McCain was not code named song bird for nothing.

After his release he was ushered before Nixon. The Navy at the time declared 100% disabled due to his injuries sustained when his bailed out. As per Naval and DOD regulations, he should have discharged, but the Navy decided to promote him to a full commander and decorated the dishonorable SOB with 28 medals for flying 25 hours of bombing missions, cherry picking civilian target and indiscriminately killings tens of thousands of Vietnamese women and children. As usual the Pentagon as per needs of that heinous, crazy Asian war and McCain has declined to open up and release any of the records.

The fake war hero there after got the best easy ride of favored select admission to the War College, normally reserved for high ranking military officers with merits and distinction. McCain's were graduating #496 out of 499 in his class from the Naval Academy, destruction of five aircraft and five years POW songbird.

After 9 months R and R at the war College, with the influence of the admiral daddy and like minded other Navy Hack, boozer and Womanizer Senator John Tower of Texas, the powerful Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, John Sidney McCain was promoted to the rank of Captain with no merits what so ever, and assigned as a Naval Liaison to the US Senate. A job for which the son of the admiral had neither have any experience or training. In fact, all McCain did was supply John Tower with booze and women in places like Saudi Arabia.

It was John Tower, McCain's mentor, who greased his was into politics. The road was paved through then mafia blood money, through his second wife Cindy Lou, the hussy rich rodeo queen, for who McCain with code of conduct, being an officer and a gentleman, divorced his first crippled wife. The SOB even took out a marriage Lic. when he was still married to that poor crippled women with three kids. Cindy Lou Hensley's father Jim Hensley and his bother who owned the AZ beer distribution were both felons, AZ / Las Vegas mafia associates.

With all this documented history McCain the uncouth SOB like rest of his conservative republican's still panders lies and more lies and yet all the so called liberal media never questions McCain's past. WHY.


Posted by: winemaster2 | September 10, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

The conservative republican pentecostal evangelical PAIN without their L, her big mouth, BA taking six year in journalism, in her star and stripes bikini and brandishing a scope mounted rifles comes across like a KKK, except the hood. Her hood is the warped in the flag, farting patriotism and GOP scripted delivery with the Nazi Karl Rove all over. The situation is even worst then racism when the totally inept and unqualified, forked tongued, corrupt to the hilt like McCain and the rest these SOBs are lying through their teeth as BUSH/CHENEY/ McCain and the rest of the conservative republicans have been doing for the last 8 years.
Racism is rife with hate, fear and republican patriotic feeding frenzy to control the hearts and minds of these misled and the gullible, brainwashed, programmed idiots, with blinders etc. The shout and cheer on que and drive around at high noon with their head lights on.

Unfortunately OBama has been sand bagged and yet he still is being a nice guy and offers the other cheak instead of taking on McCain, the fake war hero and Mr. Preferential treatment all his life. The bottom line is character, record, which in McCain's case is the worst ever in the history of the US Navy. The 72 year pitbull, with four bouts of cancer, murder of thousands on Vietnamese civilian and direct responsibility for the hideous incidence aboard the Carrier Forrestal. Where the son of the admiral ( CINPAC ) disobeyed direct orders of not removing the 1000 Lb bombs form his plane, and wet firing his jet engines, to harass and intimidate the pilot behind. Caused that so called stray rocket, and jarring the 1000 Lb bombs lose. The resulting explosion and fire killed 139 naval personnel, injured, maimed and crippled 179 others, destroyed 20 fighter jets and caused tens of billions in damage to the flight deck. Yet McCain the hot shot son of the admiral with minor injuries was first to be air lifted, rather then others with third degree burn. The Navy as usual sanitizes all the records and shoved everything under the rug.

The Lt. Commander son of the admirals version of his 5 years POW ordeal differs radical from other higher ranking military officers, who were POWs much longer. McCain was not code named song bird for nothing.

After his release he was ushered before Nixon. The Navy at the time declared 100% disabled due to his injuries sustained when his bailed out. As per Naval and DOD regulations, he should have discharged, but the Navy decided to promote him to a full commander and decorated the dishonorable SOB with 28 medals for flying 25 hours of bombing missions, cherry picking civilian target and indiscriminately killings tens of thousands of Vietnamese women and children. As usual the Pentagon as per needs of that heinous, crazy Asian war and McCain has declined to open up and release any of the records.

The fake war hero there after got the best easy ride of favored select admission to the War College, normally reserved for high ranking military officers with merits and distinction. McCain's were graduating #496 out of 499 in his class from the Naval Academy, destruction of five aircraft and five years POW songbird.

After 9 months R and R at the war College, with the influence of the admiral daddy and like minded other Navy Hack, boozer and Womanizer Senator John Tower of Texas, the powerful Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, John Sidney McCain was promoted to the rank of Captain with no merits what so ever, and assigned as a Naval Liaison to the US Senate. A job for which the son of the admiral had neither have any experience or training. In fact, all McCain did was supply John Tower with booze and women in places like Saudi Arabia.

It was John Tower, McCain's mentor, who greased his was into politics. The road was paved through then mafia blood money, through his second wife Cindy Lou, the hussy rich rodeo queen, for who McCain with code of conduct, being an officer and a gentleman, divorced his first crippled wife. The SOB even took out a marriage Lic. when he was still married to that poor crippled women with three kids. Cindy Lou Hensley's father Jim Hensley and his bother who owned the AZ beer distribution were both felons, AZ / Las Vegas mafia associates.

With all this documented history McCain the uncouth SOB like rest of his conservative republican's still panders lies and more lies and yet all the so called liberal media never questions McCain's past. WHY.


Posted by: winemaster2 | September 10, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

yet another mealy mouthed, msm non analysis. to suggest that the obama campaign has engaged in the "politics of polarization" along with the mccain campaign is to compare a pin prick to an axe wound. get real msm ... get off your lazy asses and do a little reporting. facts are stubborn things if you care to know them, or better yet, report them!

Posted by: coachb | September 10, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/2779256/Barack-Obamania-makes-way-for-Sarah-Palinmania---US-Election-2008.html

Men- Check that picture out and tell me you don't want to sniff her undies.

My God is she HOT

Chevy - Educated Redneck & DEM Destroyer

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/2779256/Barack-Obamania-makes-way-for-Sarah-Palinmania---US-Election-2008.html

Men- Check that picture out and tell me you don't want to sniff her undies.

My God is she HOT

Chevy - Educated Redneck & DEM Destroyer

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: chevy | September 10, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

i'm not a religious zealot or an evangelical but this election will decide the future of this country. all you had to do was look at the republican convention and see who will continue to run this country into the ground. not more of the same but a double dose of what we've been already getting: more division, more unemployment, more foreclosures and further erosion of the middle class.

Posted by: glen | September 10, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Chevy | September 10, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm a political moderate. But for well over a decade, I've been harassed by liberals at work, bosses and co-workers alike, for not espousing their view of the world. In the places I've worked, conservatives and moderates have been afraid to speak up. I've been amazed at their absolute certitude in their left-wing ideology. They had all the self-righteousness, intolerance, and zeal of religious fanatics persecuting the unbelievers. These are the sorts of people who are polarizing this country.

Posted by: _kt_ | September 10, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Asperger Girl and/or Anonymous [Are they the same? Sounds like it.] wrote:
"If you weren't important enough for me to proofread my post for errors before clicking "Submit" I'm sure not going to spend the time "translating" if you can't figure out what it means to you. LOL."
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Your posts are definitely not worth proofreading, that's for sure. And I know what your posts mean to me, and every other thinking reader -- Nada.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

The lede says, "campaigns" plural doing the polarization stuff. Then we find the article bandies around a bunch of nice ways to say McCain and Palin are in the gutter. thanks again.

Posted by: flounder | September 10, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have managed to take this campaign to the bottom yet again. They need to stop being cry-babies and get serious about the issues that face the country. The "lipstick" flap is a classic case of people who can dish it out but can't take it. Sorry if your feelings got hurt, tough guys, we'll buy you a lolipop when the tears dry. That is if there's any money left after the banking system fails.

Posted by: david camp | September 10, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Equal pay is not guaranteed by the EEOC or Title VII.

And, yes, I do think women are ill served by legislators, and presidential candidates, who oppose legislation that would simply require employers to pay comparable wages for comparable work and experience.

You don't have to call me a femi-nazi. I'll go ahead and put it out there for you.

Posted by: themis | September 10, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Is this true? Her son was forced to serve because he was a delinquent?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6892728

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Did McCain cry when his crutch left him on his own?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

"Obama and Biden are lawyers. I trust them with my future....."
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HAHAHAHAHAH! That's just great there, wakeup. I've never known ANYONE who got screwed by lawyers!

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

>> Skeptic21 wrote: Asperger Girl wrote:
"They seem to be experts on whether being are authentically offended or not only when it comes to sexist offenses." [sic]
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Yeah, that's what she wrote. Maybe someone can translate. Does anyone out there speak Moose?

Naw. If you weren't important enough for me to proofread my post for errors before clicking "Submit" I'm sure not going to spend the time "translating" if you can't figure out what it means to you. LOL.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Young people will definately decide this election.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 10, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Margaret wrote:
"nothing about his step-father who was ALSO a Muslim"
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More pathetic lies from pathetic McCain supporters. They have no shame.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama's INTENT with the "Lipstick on a Pig" comment ISN'T THE ISSUE.




Here's the REAL issue...



Posted by: oldageandtreachery | September 10, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Pissed off women who vote for McCain will just get p*ss*d upon . . . unless they think it is pro-woman to vote for someone who has consistently voted against equal pay legislation.

Posted by: themis | September 10, 2008 10:03 PM
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What's this equal pay nonsense? We already have EEOC and non-discrimination laws. Are you telling me just because you are a woman you automatically have to make what the highest paid man makes, regardless of your performance or qualifications? Give me a break.

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

The security and survival of this, our country, our land, our home, the United States of America, depends more on our own protection of our Constitution than on our defense against any external threat. The meaningful vigilance for us, as a people, is upon the inside--not the outside. So the president and vice-president must be persons who understand, when they take the oath of office, what our Constitution does for us as a free people. We expect our judges to understand this but neither should we gamble on presidential rank candidates not understanding this. Look what has happened by gambling on an under-educated businessman with little respect for the law in the person of the current incumbent. Bush has trashed the Constitution in ways that would shame a lawyer.

Obama and Biden are lawyers. I trust them with my future. I don't have trust in McCain or Palin, two who have had little serious study and have under-exercised their brains on the meaning of our Constitution. McCain graduated five from the bottom of his US Naval Academy class (he almost bilged out--flunked) and in unlikely fashion rose to the rank of Captain against all those of higher rank, through his family connections: his father and grandfather were Admirals. Palin had some graduate education in journalism but has not displayed any more understanding of law than has her partner, McCain.

The Republican election apparatus is at work again, engineering another campaign, promoting their inferior wares as contestants in a competition between their style and the substance of the superior opposition. They trust again that the lawlessness of the past eight years have created an electorate so demoralized that style will captivate a majority of votes for their side.

Posted by: wakeup | September 10, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Number 2 is not number 1. Republicans are depending on their number 2 pick to be number one. American's know who run the country and who has run it for the last 8 years.

If you unemployed, you definately know.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 10, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

In an apparent effort to be "balanced," you are giving the McCain campaign a complete pass on the dirty, underhanded, sleazy campaign they have run. You slide over the fact that the Obama campaign had nothing to do with the personal attacks on Palin, and minimize Obama's almost instant repudiation of those attacks. God willing, the voters can see who is dragging this campaign down into the gutter, and who's taking the high road -- but they certainly can't learn it from your pussyfooting piece that makes it look like both sides are equally responsible.

Posted by: jac13 | September 10, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

shrill, baby, shrill!

Posted by: whoever | September 10, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Damian wrote:
"I only WISH I had half the amount of integrity, wit, intelligence and....let's admit it Skeptic21....the good looks... of that great American patriot and uber dude, Karl Rove. And its DAMAN,as in Da Man!, not Damian. Cheers."
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From what I've read of your posts, I think you do have about half of his integrity and wit. You have my sympathy.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse


Give me a friggin' break. From Nixon to Lee Atwater to Roger Ailes to Karl Rove, the Republicans have perfected "the politics of polarization" while "journalists" like Balz and Dionne and Milbanks stare into the air.

The fact that you try to make it sound as if Democrats are equally culpable points out exactly why it works. The republicans throw out some vile lie, the post dutifully types it up, with quotes from both sides, and Obama has to spend the rest of the day denying the lie.

And again. "Journalists" like Balz stare into the air and wonder, as Dionne does in his column, "why republicans have no qualms about lying."


Posted by: Monk | September 10, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for the constituents in Arizona who never get any "pork" from the Federal Government because McSame never requests any earmarks for Arizona. Earmarks are just about the only way to get some good projects that otherwise would never be done, such as water treatment plants, highways, bicycle trails, libraries, etc. Why doesn't McSame cry about the $10 billion a month the USA is throwing away in Iraq? What about the obscene budget of the Pentagon, which is higher than the military budgets of just about all the rest of the countries on earth COMBINED? Why is America such a paranoid country? Japan barely spends anything on "defense" and they never get invaded! The USA is a joke.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Asperger Girl wrote:
"They seem to be experts on whether being are authentically offended or not only when it comes to sexist offenses." [sic]
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Yeah, that's what she wrote. Maybe someone can translate. Does anyone out there speak Moose?

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

daman1 wrote:
"I know you are but what am I? :("
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I knew Karl Rove was lurking on this thread, but why does he call himself Daman? Oh, it's probably because of that Damian character in the movie about the son of Satan. Good one, Karl!!


Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 9:59 PM

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I only WISH I had half the amount of integrity, wit, intelligence and....let's admit it Skeptic21....the good looks... of that great American patriot and uber dude, Karl Rove. And its DAMAN,as in Da Man!, not Damian. Cheers.

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a puzzy!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Given McCain's explicit statements that he will appoint justices who oppose Roe, how is it fear mongering to call him on it? Oh, he's waffled on that hasn't he? So I guess we women should just trust him. Like his first wife did. If we're lucky, he won't divorce us as soon as something better comes along, like the presidency maybe.

Pissed off women who vote for McCain will just get p*ss*d upon . . . unless they think it is pro-woman to vote for someone who has consistently voted against equal pay legislation.

Posted by: themis | September 10, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

>>Nadeem Zakaria wrote: "You can't put lipstick on a community organizer and call it a presidential candidate. LOL!"

Shhh! You can't even mention "community organizer" except in respectful tones.

Gov. Paterson of New York says that is racist. Because a lot of community organizers are black. No shi*, here it is:

NY's Paterson: McCain campaign insinuates race into criticism of Obama's community organizing
By VALERIE BAUMAN, Associated Press Writer
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-campaign-racial-politics,1,3394439.story

So they're trying to make a case that Palin was being racist for making fun of the "community organizer" thing in her convention speech.

So while the McCain campaign & Palin get bashed for being offended by the pig in lipstick label, Obama (via his surrogates, of course) go on merrily playing the race card (which they do weekly) by making false accusations of "racial coding" & insinuations of racism in everything McCain says & does.

Hmmm, wonder why Factcheck.org never declares someone's opinion or being offended by what Obama supporters think are "racial coding" is something they should factcheck. They seem to be experts on whether being are authentically offended or not only when it comes to sexist offenses.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I think the media should take the bulk of the blame for the out of control politics going on. They are the ones hyping up the petty attacks made by the McCain/Palin team.

Posted by: msreason | September 10, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Who is Obama? we don't know.
The video of his "life" shown at the Dem convention didn't follow a timeline - but was back and forth all over the place.
And of course, nothing about his step-father who was ALSO a Muslim - or that the mother who "raised" him shipped him back to the U.S. from Indonesia and his middle class grandmother raised him.

I don't trust Obama.
He's arrogant now. It's not difficult to imagine what he'd do in the White House influenced by all that power.

NObama!

Posted by: Margaret | September 10, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Sarah will wear her hair up on Inauguration day or sport a sassy new cut? She is SOOO hot!

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

daman1 wrote:
"I know you are but what am I? :("
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I knew Karl Rove was lurking on this thread, but why does he call himself Daman? Oh, it's probably because of that Damian character in the movie about the son of Satan. Good one, Karl!!

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

The USA is a total joke. As long as Americans keep voting for the GOP, I've boycotted all American products whenever possible. Also, Palin is simply Bush in a dress. Palin and Bush agree on EVERYTHING and both are ultra right-wing religious extremist wackos. There are more dumb people than smart people and that's why the GOP wins elections. I'm not an elitist, but that's the truth!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:54 PM

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I know you are but what am I? :(

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

The USA is a total joke. As long as Americans keep voting for the GOP, I've boycotted all American products whenever possible. Also, Palin is simply Bush in a dress. Palin and Bush agree on EVERYTHING and both are ultra right-wing religious extremist wackos. There are more dumb people than smart people and that's why the GOP wins elections. I'm not an elitist, but that's the truth!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Asperger Girl wrote:
"After extensive research & interviews, Factcheck.org finds that Factcheck.org has been acting like a tool of the Obama campaign since early Spring."
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More lies from pathetic McCain supporters who don't want to deal with the issues.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

In case you haven't figured it out - Obamabots are fearmongering on Roe v Wade.

McCain has many P.O.W.'s supporting him - Pissed Off Women.

Go McCain!

Posted by: Josey | September 10, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote:
"McCain voted 90% with Bush- ok
Obama voted 100% with- Pelosi, Reed, Kennedy, Biden, Clinton- not ok"
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You must be among the .001% who are better off than they were 8 years ago. Maybe you are rich enough that you benifited from the tax cuts while the nation increased its debt by trillions, and you haven't had a loved one killed or maimed in the lie that is Iraq.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a half brother living in an 8 x 10 ft. hut in Nairobi on $10 a month. Vanity Fair is doing a story on it and it is a fact.

I guess Obama is NOT his brothers keeper after all. He could have at least sent him a hut warming gift.

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

>>Skeptic21 wrote: "From Factcheck.org:"

After extensive research & interviews, Factcheck.org finds that Factcheck.org has been acting like a tool of the Obama campaign since early Spring.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I remember Obama brushing Hillary off the bottom of his shoe and his shoulder and laughing along with the crowds - gestures he learned at Trinity Church.

But Dan Balz never reported THAT.

Obama's low character is a big red flag!

Obama/Wright08

Posted by: zazzle | September 10, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Bringing Back The Culture Wars: Sarah Palin’s Pick Guarantees America Will Remain Divided For Years To Come...

Continue reading
http://askaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Sunday | September 10, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Ronald "Death Valley Dazed" Reagan and the bush teams have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...

usually for $_TRILLIONS_$....a 4 year term...


going into Bechtel, KBR, Halliburton, und Carlyle Group achtung...


only the _CLINTON_years_ were deficitfree...

check it out, and while you're checking it out...

SEARCH on LIPS, bush, Victor ashe, Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, Guckert, Gannon, ALL GAY...

the repulsive scammers

using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate and MISLEADING


FRAUD....


sue them....and sxxx down their throats after you win judgement...


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.

Posted by: howabout that fred???? | September 10, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

>>Linda wrote: "So far I have only heard two journalists, Mark Halperin and Richard Wolff, take responsibility and suggest that the media stop contributing to the McCain smear machine. As for McCain, his statement tonight trying to blame the level of HIS campaign on Obama's refusal to do town hall meetings reinforces that there is no bottom to how low he will go."

Obama won't debate, do townhalls, do anything, really, except his own "Invitation Only" "townhalls" and scripted events. He's done a tiny handful of interviews since getting sandbagged with Palin.

It's been Obama being not-about-issues while using his media fan club to bash Bush, Republicans & McCain, and make the case that McCain is "the Same" as Bush.

If there is any lack of substance in this campaign season, it's due to Obama. He stopped debating Clinton after March & hasn't opened himself up to a debate since. The only thing he's opened himself for was the couple of interviews after he got in Palin trouble, and that Saddleback forum. And he did miserably in the Saddleback forum.

Obama is about anything BUT the issues.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I.e., "patterns" of "duplicitousness," by Barack Obama, the ACORN disciple and Ayers benefactor.

Posted by: Arlen | September 10, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

McCain would be 20 points ahead by now if Obama had agreed to the townhalls.
But, of course, Obama is too high and mighty for such foolishness as providing his positions on the issues. Perhaps because he keeps flip flopping!

But NOW that Palin has energized the Repubs - Obama suddenly wants to talk issues.
ROFLMAO

Obama is the most arrog....er uppity candidate in U.S. history.

Dems for McCain/Palin!


Posted by: carla | September 10, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

For the record, Obama doesn't have a brother, living in Kenya or anywhere else. He has a half-sister who lives in Hawaii, born to his mother and her second husband.

As to Dan Balz's analysis, "The notion of a Red versus Blue America may oversimplify the state of our politics. It may obscure some realities of a country that agrees across party lines on many things. '

I would say that "may oversimplify" is an understatement, as are the words "may obscure."

I don't think either the press, or the party faithful in full throat at the conventions, can be said to represent the broad range of American opinion, much of which occupies a quieter, uneasier middle ground, even in such a freewheeling and often vitriolic campaign as this one.

Until the press (and I write freelance for a newspaper) actually does a better job of getting out of NY and DC and LA, and really talking and listening to people--by which I mean, not relying so heavily on polling, not persistently relying on campaign "insiders" for information or so-called pundits, not regurgitating opinion from other newspapers and blogs --and until they dispense with the hoary old clichés about red states/blue states and the people who live in them--we'll continue to see the same old stories recycled endlessly.

Sure there are strong differences of opinion, and some of these differences are expressed stridently and heatedly, but since when is that new? Is the political atmosphere now really more partisan than it was, say, during the run-up to the Civil War, the height of the Civil Rights movement or the McCarthy period? Where's the historical perspective?

It's the press's job to cover politics but is parroting the absurd tit-for-tat that bounces back and forth between the campaigns really a useful exercise in democracy? Is this what is meant by a free press? Free to be just as trivial as the scandal du jour? To fall into the trap of covering the race for the presidency as if it were largely a contest between personalities and back-stories?

Personalities are part of it, as are the candidates' histories, but doesn't the press' insistence on creating overarching "narratives" and instant archetypes--hockey and soccer moms; NASCAR dads; liberal elites; simple rural folk; embittered Clinton followers; firebreathing evangelicals--lead to the same kind of simplifications and partisanship we're currently bemoaning in our politics?

Posted by: Curmudgeon | September 10, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, regarding the article... To allow freedom of thought and speech, you always risk dissent. Without this nurturing of thought and creativity we would headlong into the dark ages again. However, in recognition of what nations have learned from history, the next dark age may in fact not be far off.

Posted by: TerrifiedCitizen | September 10, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Typically biased "journalism," conveniently forgetting Obama's patters (and what Alinsky's ACORN and Chicago machine taught him) -- duplicitouness.

Remember the consistent "giving the finger" to Hillary Clinton in three successive speeches, after Obama was bruised by her in debate?

No, maybe the Washington Post has a selective memory. Journalism in a pig's eye.

Posted by: Arlen | September 10, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Ronald "Death Valley Dazed" Reagan and the bush teams have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...

usually for $_TRILLIONS_$....a 4 year term...


going into Bechtel, KBR, Halliburton, und Carlyle Group achtung...


only the _CLINTON_years_ were deficitfree...

check it out, and while you're checking it out...

SEARCH on LIPS, bush, Victor ashe, Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, Guckert, Gannon, ALL GAY...

the repulsive scammers

using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate and MISLEADING


FRAUD....


sue them....and sxxx down their throats after you win judgement...


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.

Posted by: ccleean it up veemers... | September 10, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Let's get onto important stuff....What do you think Sarah will wear to the inauguration? I hope she wears some real Alaskan fur. She is SOOOO hot, isn't she? I'm getting tingly just thinking abolut it.

I am going to miss the first President to hold an MBA though(W).

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Ronald "Death Valley Dazed" Reagan and the bush teams have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...

usually for $_TRILLIONS_$....a 4 year term...


going into Bechtel, KBR, Halliburton, und Carlyle Group achtung...


only the _CLINTON_years_ were deficitfree...

check it out, and while you're checking it out...

SEARCH on LIPS, bush, Victor ashe, Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, Guckert, Gannon, ALL GAY...

the repulsive scammers

using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate and MISLEADING


FRAUD....


sue them....and sxxx down their throats after you win judgement...


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.

Posted by: take their homes away and sschit down their troats... | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

So how many Presidential candidates can you name that are being considered by some on the religious right-wing as the AntiChrist?

You know, somehow that does not actually portend a winner. As is someone who can't produce a convincing birth certificate to even prove he is a citizen.

It's a matter of perception. We've watched Obama get where he is now through dividing the party and treating Hillary Clinton very badly. Twice.

So if women look at Obama they are already know how Obama treats women. Twice.
And that there are people in his party that are waiting for Hillary to go out and fix this Palin thing for him.
Uh, huh.

Polarization? Obama could have been the first mixed-race vice president starting on a landslide eight years. But instead he deliberately polarized himself into making the candidacy much more of a racial thing by needing to be the first black presidential nominee. And for that narcissistic objective he'll lose this election.

The GOP ironically, after 8 of the most nastily polarized years in our history, provided not just a solidly united front, but one that offers the consolations of familiarity to a skittish nation.
Because Karl Rove knows how to make the most of the Rove Rule that in crisis the stressed invariably skew to the familiar.

The Democrats got gamed by partisan interests. None of these candidates except Biden is any sort of choice at all. And he'll be sunk by those of us who simply refuse to deal with a hologram like Obama.

Ask not who is polarized. Ask those who've banked upon its effects.

-gala1

Posted by: gala1 | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama's mentor, Rev. Wright, had an affair 20 years ago - and another one this year AFTER he'd retired and now living in his million dollar mansion.

Obama/Wright08

Posted by: Janna | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain voted 90% with Bush- ok
Obama voted 100% with- Pelosi, Reed, Kennedy, Biden, Clinton- not ok

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Dems for McCain/Palin is an oxymoron.

Too bad logic isn't a required course in all American freshman high school classes.

Copi, Introduction to Logic.

Posted by: emmesq | September 10, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

So far I have only heard two journalists, Mark Halperin and Richard Wolff, take responsibility and suggest that the media stop contributing to the McCain smear machine. As for McCain, his statement tonight trying to blame the level of HIS campaign on Obama's refusal to do town hall meetings reinforces that there is no bottom to how low he will go. I am so regretful that I have ever voted for a Republican.

Posted by: Linda | September 10, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

From Factcheck.org:
"McCain-Palin Distorts Our Finding
September 10, 2008
Those attacks on Palin that we debunked didn't come from Obama.
Summary
A McCain-Palin ad has FactCheck.org calling Obama's attacks on Palin "absolutely false" and "misleading." That's what we said, but it wasn't about Obama.

Our article criticized anonymous e-mail falsehoods and bogus claims about Palin posted around the Internet. We have no evidence that any of the claims we found to be false came from the Obama campaign.

The McCain-Palin ad also twists a quote from a Wall Street Journal columnist. He said the Obama camp had sent a team to Alaska to "dig into her record and background." The ad quotes the WSJ as saying the team was sent to "dig dirt."
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Big surprise. More lies from McCain/Palin

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Ronald "Death Valley Dazed" Reagan and the bush teams have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...

usually for $_TRILLIONS_$....a 4 year term...


going into Bechtel, KBR, Halliburton, und Carlyle Group achtung...


only the _CLINTON_years_ were deficitfree...

check it out, and while you're checking it out...

SEARCH on LIPS, bush, Victor ashe, Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, Guckert, Gannon, ALL GAY...

the repulsive scammers

using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate and MISLEADING


FRAUD....


sue them....and sxxx down their throats after you win judgement...


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.

Posted by: a nasty mind is a shame to waste....unless I get paid for it.. | September 10, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

quite a nice assessment of the ability of the general world to digest the 24/7 cycle. but yet, if you do digest it, crave it, you can find the objective truth. working people, if you wish to have a better life for your children and yourself, you need to go dem in this election. If you actually READ the policies of both nominees and aren't filthy rich, you have to go dem. Or you are shooting yourself in the foot, whatever your religious beliefs, your personal values, your views on gun ownership rights, are. That's not what's at stake. IT's your very livelihood. Your day to day, quality of life and overall of satisfaction and happiness. Obama was right today when he spoke to this--- IT's not Obama that loses this election, it is us, the people.

Posted by: stiv | September 10, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

wh o someever . pretends that Palin is "a woman"


is looking for position.


If she were responsible "as a woman" her daughter would NEVER have gotten pregnant...NEVER...


WTF kind of mother is she....17 year old pregnant child?????


she's a man in womens clothing pretending to support women,


she's tough? how about greedy....and willing to do whatever it takes to


get some.

she's a sexless republica ntwat...slime dawg...

She's not in it for women or AMERICA, she's in it for


duh money.....off shore drilling????


you can drill her daughter as long as you pay her for it....


.


.

anyone can see that...


long as you willin to pay,


Palin willing to "let you do it"


responsible parenting????

.

obviously.... NOT.


Posted by: a sensitive personality... | September 10, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

The age of American greatness passed when the majority of our citizenry decided that they would rather have a regular joe (or jane) in office than someone who acutually merited their vote. So what do you call a nation in which neither aristocracy nor meritocracy prevails? Bankrupt in almost every sense of the term?

Of course, there are those who will say such views make me a liberal elitist. . .nevermind the fact I was born to parents who had 18 years of formal education between the two of them, enlisted when I was 17, worked my way through college, and have never had a six figure salary.

But hey, if enough people fall for a fallacy, who cares? Then it makes for a great rhetorical tool despite the faulty reasoning underlying it.

Posted by: emmesq | September 10, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Gee Dan - where were you and WaPo when Obama's surrogates called Hillary a RACIST for merely citing polling data indicating the white working class wasn't voting for Obama?

Obama and his surrogates began calling for Hillary to GET OUT of the race in February. But where was WaPo after Hillary merely mentioned RFK was still in the race in June 1968 - and Obamabots claimed she wanted Obama ASSASSINATED!!

Dems for McCain/Palin!


Posted by: Robert | September 10, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Somebody help me please!! The "community organizer" for my neighborhood is out of town and we have no one to organize us. How can we go on without our "community organizer?" My neighborhood is completely disorganized now that we don't have our "community organizer" to guide us. Are there any communities out there who have a spare "community organizer" that we could borrow?

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 9:20 PM

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Dave - don't panic. Just go out to the nearest street corner at mid-day and look for some unemployed slacker, college dropout wearing Birkenstocks or some angry, Ivy League educated minority person and ask if they will be your community organizer. I'm sure they would love to do it and they are great at telling you how the world should be and what you should think. Good luck.

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Polarization? Is that a bad thing?

If your son or daughter had to serve under the authority of gay NCOs and officers in the US Armed Forces, you'll wish for polarization, but you can only get it by refusing to enlist.

Yes, Obama's on record saying he will abolish Don't Ask Don't Tell in the US Armed Services.

Posted by: DaTourist | September 10, 2008 7:36 PM

You posted this comment several times.

Obviously your over blown and fearful concerns of gays in the military are homophobic.

That is very telling considering the vast majority of homophobic men like yourself are actually in the closet gays with themselves, just like yourself.

Not that there's anything wrong with you being gay. You just have to accept the fact that God made you that way.

Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT | September 10, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post wrote:
"Right now, the focus is rightly on McCain's campaign -- for crying foul in such exaggerated fashion over Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment as a slur on Sarah Palin, for stretching the truth on Palin's position on the Bridge to Nowhere and for accusing Obama of promoting sex education for kindergarten children."
**************************************
What do you expect? George Bush has lied and driven our country into the ground for eight years, and McCain is promising 4 more years. How dumb is America? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame, shame, shame on America.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

It is unbelievable how liberals are coming unglued! This is truly interesting to watch them go after a woman and swallow what the press is feeding them about Sarah Palin. She is doing her first interview tommorrow night and they already hate her guts.

Posted by: Hayes | September 10, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Dave wrote:
"Somebody help me please!! The "community organizer" for my neighborhood is out of town and we have no one to organize us."
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Jesus was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor. Sarah Palin is a liar.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I honestly used to have respect for John McCain, and early on I thought that even if he were to win, I might be able to live with it. I have lost all respect for the man. He has no honor and he is a liar, as is Palin. Should this team win, they will never be respected by me or any of my family for what they have done. For the first time in a long time, I feel hate in my heart.

Posted by: Sarah (not Palin) | September 10, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zazzle | September 10, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Let see. The writer, Dan Balz, bemoans the polarization of the campaign. "it's the candidate organizatin's fault".

Perhaps if the media took just a 'little' responsibility for biased reporting, inaccurate reporting, and downright lies, and then FIXED the problem, we might get fair, balanced & accurate reporting.

And somehow, I don't think the country will be quite as 'polarized' if more of us agree on what the problems are.

Posted by: Bill Sanford | September 10, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Palin is a pig. She's really just a total piece of human excrement, who tags along that Walking Corpse, McCrypt.

Posted by: Kelly | September 10, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

It is wholly inaccurate to say that the candidates or the parties are running divisive campaigns. This was initiated, and it is being stoked daily, by the right. Obama has run a classy campaign, but McCain talks about bipartisanship and then conducts himself in an entirely different matter.

Posted by: fmjk | September 10, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I do believe that most voters are sick of the rhetoric and drama surrounding the John McCain and Governor Palin. The cost of sending another Republican to the White House are far worse than the cost of the war, gas prices and cost of lost jobs throughout the nation combined.

Posted by: dee | September 10, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama: Worst.....Candidate.....Ever

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

The polls show overwhelmingly that people who are concerned about "issues" are for Obama, people who are more interested in "personality" are for McCain.

Maybe we can get McCain a reality TV show and let Obama be president.

Posted by: Skeptic21 | September 10, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Yes, well Bobby, it's a good thing you can get back to whatever it is you do, instead of poisoning the minds of young people with the tripe you've been spoon-fed by today's GOP.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Biden has been LYING about how his wife and children were killed!
http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS02/809040379&template=printart

Obama LIED about the Kennedys bringing his father to America!
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/30/13655/6958

A quick google search reveals the facts - and the Kennedys also went along with the LIE.

These LIES are in the press - but not on Obamedia TV!
This is a reflection of Obama's and Biden's CHARACTER!
If they'd LIE about their own families, no telling what they'd do in the White House!

Dems for McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Josey | September 10, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

There are bad genes in the Palin family...it shows in the weird- far-off look in her eyes and her low-IQ valley girl delivery at the RNC.

Posted by: Rude Israeli | September 10, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

If I were a political science professor I would have my students write a thesis on how a republician could win an election with the far left media slant that exists today. The short answer would be that the American people know better.

Posted by: Bobby | September 10, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Idiots like Dave and Sarah Palin want to force your daughters to have the babies of rapists.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Dave, you're just another low information voter.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Somebody help me please!! The "community organizer" for my neighborhood is out of town and we have no one to organize us. How can we go on without our "community organizer?" My neighborhood is completely disorganized now that we don't have our "community organizer" to guide us. Are there any communities out there who have a spare "community organizer" that we could borrow?

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

HEY GOP IDIOTS! LOOK at the freaking video. If you think Obama was referring to Palin, the you truly are the LOW INFORMATION VOTERS everyone thinks you are.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

This is a perfect example of the media trying to be balanced. It is obvious that McCain is in the gutter. Everytime Obama tries to respond, then it is turned against him. To my neighbours to the south - if you go for Republicans again, then you truly deserve what you get. Please do not try to escape to my country, we don't like gender, racial based politics. Our election is next month, and we are discussing carbon taxes.

Posted by: Cathie | September 10, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

wh o someever . pretends that Palin is "a woman"


is looking for position.


If she were responsible "as a woman" her daughter would NEVER have gotten pregnant...NEVER...


WTF kind of mother is she....17 year old pregnant child?????


she's a man in womens clothing pretending to support women,


she's tough? how about greedy....and willing to do whatever it takes to


get some.


She's not in it for women or AMERICA, she's in it for


duh money.....off shore drilling????


you can drill her daughter as long as you pay her for it....


.


.

anyone can see that...


long as you willin to pay,


Palin willing to "let you do it"


responsible parenting????

.

obviously.... NOT.

she's a pig, w or w/o lipstick

and she's into pork in realtime

.

Posted by: SUE THEM FOR FRAUD !!!!!!!!! make some money and cut them off at the knees | September 10, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin wants to make you have your baby, even if you had to get raped to get pregnant.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama never served in the military, never ran a business, and has never governed a city or state. Sorry Obama, "community organizer" just doesn't cut it. Start drafting your concession speech.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

On Letterman later tonight Obama says...

"That's not what I meant, but if that was the meaning, she would be the lipstick and McCain's policies would be the pig."

...................OBAMA............. OR'EILLY............ LOVEFEST......................................
...................................Obama won O'Reilly Over!.........................................

Holy guacamole!

Somebody put this up on youtube!

Tonight's O'Reilly Obama interview was AMAZING!

They were like pals.

Obama won O'Reilly Over!

http://jamestshirley.blogspot.com/

Posted by: James T Shirley | September 10, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

wh o someever . pretends that Palin is "a woman"


is looking for position.


If she were responsible "as a woman" her daughter would NEVER have gotten pregnant...NEVER...


WTF kind of mother is she....17 year old pregnant child?????


she's a man in womens clothing pretending to support women,


she's tough? how about greedy....and willing to do whatever it takes to


get some.


She's not in it for women or AMERICA, she's in it for


duh money.....off shore drilling????


you can drill her daughter as long as you pay her for it....


.


.

anyone can see that...


long as you willin to pay,


Palin willing to "let you do it"


responsible parenting????


.

obviously.... NOT.

Posted by: you're thought swhen they actually make sense... | September 10, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

How can you tell Republicans are lying?

Their mouths are moving.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I am truly sad to say this, but McCain is despicable.

The character of a campaign says something about the man it represents. If he is somehow elected -- and I still do not think he will be -- he will not be "my president", and I think a lot of other Americans will feel the same way.

Disgusting.

Posted by: Oomingmak | September 10, 2008 9:06 PM
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This is waht is wrong with the Democrat party and why you keep losing elections...you are 'fair weather' Americans who place politics over country.

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

It was beginning to look like Obama may dump Biden for a woman VP. After listening to Biden today it sounds like he wants to have a dual prez with Hillary.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

in case you haven't figured it out yet....


McCain and Palin are lying to sell a product....


out right lying....


it's AMERICA's chance to sue the REPUBLICANS and make back some money....


take advantage of this opportunity do it as a citizen....I don't care what party you support....

FRAUD IS FRAUD....or have the DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUE THE REPUBLICANS FOR FALSIFYING INFORMATAION....


POLLUTING THEINFORMATION STREAM...


clean up AMERICA, stop fraud in it's tracks.


saying Palin was against the Bridge to NoWhere and she stopped it...


no one stopped it, certainly not her...


that's called FRAUD, they're selling the REPUBLIC SCAMMMMMER product....


sue them for false advertising and fraud....


"tax and spend democrats," is also FRAUD


Ronald "Death Valley Dazed" Reagan and the bush teams have taxed and spent the United States into a deficit each time...

usually for $_TRILLIONS_$....a 4 year term...


going into Bechtel, KBR, Halliburton, und Carlyle Group achtung...


only the _CLINTON_years_ were deficitfree...

check it out, and while you're checking it out...

SEARCH on LIPS, bush, Victor ashe, Ken Mehlman, Karl Rove, Guckert, Gannon, ALL GAY...

the repulsive scammers

using the phrase "tax and spend" democrats is deliberate and MISLEADING


FRAUD....


sue them....and sxxx down their throats after you win judgement...


that'll get some HEADLINES.....


and as far as lipsticks on pigs, anyone that compares her mug to that of a pit bull isn't concerned about feminism...


after all she'd rather her daughter got pregnant that she learn about birth control and responsible sex...


I have to say Biden calling off the dawgs on Palins' daughter


smells of Kerrys' dive....


why is he giving the wolverines a competitive edge????


these fxxxers lie as easily as other people relieve themselves...


they don't need a break, they need JAILTIME....


give it to 'em, help AMERICA OUT of it's MONETARY and ECONOMIC CRISIS of nation breaking proportions...


play fair???? MAKE THEM or WIN and then play fair...


SUE THEM into submission, and take their lives away.


.


.

Posted by: hello dimwits.... | September 10, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I could not agree with somerseten! I guess six years in a cage didn't make McCain fit to be president afterall. If I had my druthers the Republicans would have nominated someone with more time in the hole, like Leonard Peltier. He's been in for longer than six years so he would be more qualified for the presidency than McCain. And he is native American so he would help Todd Palin with his task of pulling Alaska out of the Union.

Yes, the Republicans blew it when the selects a man with only six years in a cage.

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 10, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Boy...the Dems really blew it again. Who would have thought Obama would be such a bad candidate? The camapign is really imploding. Not going to be pretty to watch.

Posted by: daman1 | September 10, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Little Miss Piggy a mayor became,
Off to Washington she went without shame,
She lobbied and lobbied til her snout wore raw
Then she returned with money for all!

Little Miss Piggy a Governor became,
Then disposed of that wasteful plane,
Never sold on E-bay, but who really cares ..
Lets just shoot those damn Polar Bears!

Little Miss Piggy a VP pick became,
She lied about a bridge right beside McSame,
That bridge she claimed would never be built,
And she swindled $200 million without a wee bit a guilt!

Little Miss Piggy don’t fool me no more,
Because I roasted her on the debating floor!
She lied once to often of her pork-barrel days,
She got too hog-tied in her Republican ways!

Posted by: SpottyBushforChange | September 10, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Goebbels-Rove tactics will polarize every time.

Rampant falsehoods, outright lies, complete disregard for the truth: what media manipulation here.

McCain dishonors his campaign and this country by his abhorrent behavior. Anything to win an election. And, after that, he's free to lie, same as Bush, to the American people.

Posted by: somerseten | September 10, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I am truly sad to say this, but McCain is despicable.

The character of a campaign says something about the man it represents. If he is somehow elected -- and I still do not think he will be -- he will not be "my president", and I think a lot of other Americans will feel the same way.

Disgusting.

Posted by: Oomingmak | September 10, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

This is such a depressing column. "The Republicans are lying, so a plague on both their houses."

Broder. Bad. Balz.

It never ends.

Posted by: tomfromtimrussertville | September 10, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Hi You Ninny butt I am Zakaria Nadeem and I not american but i tell yo how you to be american. i am very much not american but i no best way to be american for you my friends. here is how you listen to zakaria that is me and i will tell you to do this pray five times every day and vot for mccain because we can't have a negger as president negger is lowest life form and in my country sudan we are kill them very well. you also should kill you negger and don't let them tell you what for doing.

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 10, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

actually no, JakeD, obama called the mccain-palin change argument lipstick on the pig of republican policies.
if anything, palin is the lipstick, mccain is the pig.

and since mccain said the same about hillary's health care plan, complaining about it is yet another in a long line of mccain campaign hypocrisy.

but thanks for playing.

Posted by: The Eyeroller | September 10, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

It seems that aspergirl and dianne72 are now calling the shots for mccain, as is evident from direction the campaign is taking.

Posted by: independent voter08 | September 10, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA is obviously in trouble! He does stutter, unless he has a teleprompter. It is going to be a long time to November. What a mess this election has become. Someone needs to stop the inapropriate comments on this site.

Posted by: Gabby | September 10, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

BIDEN: 'HILLARY MIGHT HAVE BEEN BETTER PICK THAN ME'....It looks like the Dump Biden movement is gaining momentum.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh, please!!!! It's like this every election. Politics is a contact sport. The reason our politics is so rough is because, unlike most parlimentary systems, we undergo what is akin to a revolution every four years. And generally, whoever wins the big one (the presidency) gets to play with almost all of the marbles. Ron

Posted by: Ron Adolph | September 10, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

"By the way, Obama's brother said that Barrack is "a good Muslim." "

Well then, by your twisted rightwing logic, having a good Muslim as president instead of a fundamentalist "Christian" hockey mom whose minister thinks we are living in the end times--and is excited by that belief--should ensure that the terrorists don't attack us, won't it?

Glad to see you'll be voting for Obama.

Posted by: castanea | September 10, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

"stretching the truth" about the bridge to nowhere?
no, she lied. and did it on purpose.

you can say it, it's the truth...

Posted by: The Eyeroller | September 10, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: daryl | September 10, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton did not call Obama's campaign a fantasy.

Posted by: Ed | September 10, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to pay my mortgage or student loans. Just because I borrowed money doesn't mean I should have to pay it back. Its not fair. I want Obama to give me everything so I don't have to do anything. Why should I pay for my own health care when Obama will make YOU pay for it?? Ha ha, suckers.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

>> Dave wrote: "Is it too late for the Democrats to have another convention? Seriously, what are the rules on this? They need to have an emergency meeting to reconsider their choice of nominee. Buyer's remorse."

It's too late in the sense that Clinton can't compete with Palin's personality & pop power, which beats Obama's & Clinton's. I.e. Palin power eclipses Obama & Clinton power. She's become a pop phenom for women like Obama was for blacks. Having popped out of alaska, she can't be stuffed back in by another woman.

It's also too late in the sense that McCain already seized the agent of change image from Obama, making Obama look phony and lacking bold initiative.

If Obama reaches back & try to pick Clinton now, it just makes him look like a guy who can't make the bold, right decisions the first time. It makes it look like he did it only under pressure & that he was behind the curve.

Which would be true. McCain outwitted & outflanked Obama, big time. Made Obama look like a little kid.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

You can't put lipstick on a community organizer and call it a presidential candidate. LOL!

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 10, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Balz is positively creepy. There have been two major campaigns during the election and primary season who have flown into hysterics and they were the two campaigns that were running against the most organized, energized and populist movement of people young and old who simply want a decent person to be our president. One who has not and will not lie to us. We all know that is Obama...that is why inuendos are the only technique Clinton or McCain could turn to. Obama wins on the issues. Balz cannot name one smear coming from the Obama campaign. And any journalist who tries to make the campaign responisible for "someone said on the internet" should wear a bag on his head for flunking Journalism 101.

Posted by: Richard Ray Harris | September 10, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Actually the media bears a bulk of the responsibility for chasing every nonsense the McCain campaign sends out.
His whole strategy is one of faux outrage and game playing.
And the press are the ones that can nullify most of it and send the stupid polarizing silliness to sidelines for good if they stopped jumping for every gossipy thing and reporting every silly mindless campaign spat and stuck with reporting the facts and issues and did not play along with rightwings strategy.
They do it because they know the mindless media will gleefully go for it everytime and ignore the important things about the elections.
Shame on the media for being gullible lap dogs time and again.

Posted by: vwcat | September 10, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama did not make a mistake by not vetting Hillary for VP. She has too much baggage. It's not the Demo's strategy this time anyway. I think we may have seen the high water mark (or stain) of the McCain campaign this week. I predict it's all downhill for the repug's from here on in. The Dems just need to keep hitting back with the facts.

Posted by: katman | September 10, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Dave wrote:
However, his OWN brother is living in dire poverty in some hellhole in Kenya.


this is the kind of stupidty that wingers always love to play. Nevermind facts and reality. Only smears and gossip and trying to make mountains out of molehills.
This is why elections are so bad, why the media consistently fails us and why the wrong people get voted into office like the idiot in chief we have now.
Do you honestly believe that this is what is important in an election or rather who is actually going to put more money in the people's pockets, keep good paying jobs here in the country and keep the CEOs from fleecing us while we end up paying for it in the endless bailouts of the mess they make.
Are you actually better off now then 8 years ago? Or do you just listen to Limbaugh and blindly believe every nonsense that comes out his mouth not caring that he is paid by the republicans to promote that stuff regardless of whether it's true or how much it harms people.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

To offer a non-partisan viewpoint from a registered independent:

Two weeks ago I was equally fed up with the hyper-polarization and political dysfunction, and was seriously considering casting a write-in vote for "none of the above." My mind has changed, and now I am going to be voting for McCain/Palin. Why? Precisely because I am confident that they are not going to represent four more years of partisan politics as usual in Washington. Both Senator McCain and Governor Palin have proven records of effectively reaching across the isle and working with people from all parties to put the public interest first and to achieve genuine reform. While I respect the other ticket and their supporters, I see no real evidence to lead me to believe that, should they be elected, we will see anything other than a continuation of the same old hyper-polarized partisanship under a new cast of characters.

Posted by: Stefan Stackhouse | September 10, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps there is no antidote or treatment for the ailment diagnosed here ably by Dan Balz. But the gridlock from which Congress and the populace have suffered, the gridlock that is a public policy result of polarization, will be eased if November 4th yields a Democratic White House so our first two branches can work together for change, for a change.

Posted by: Four more years? | September 10, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

This is just sad. By all accounts, Senator McCain/Governor Palin and Senator Obama/Senator Biden are honorable people who have stood up and put themselves into the firing line to become the next president of the United States. So to all the DNC and RNC operatives who spout their talking points here, to all the extremists in both parties who run their verbal partisan diarrhrea towards the opposing candidates, all I have to say is thank God there's independents like us who'll actually decide who the next president will be. That's right, when all is said and done, the adults- not the squabbling partisan two years- will make the call. In conclusion, as J.D. Elder writes in his excellent novel 'Loose Cannons and Other Weapons of Mass Political Destruction'- "(to)...the legion of political pundits, bloggers, politicians, and activists who've turned the art of political discourse into the equivalent of two toddlers fighting over a toy in the four year old room at the local daycare center. Thanks..." Yeah, thanks for nothing.

Posted by: Independent | September 10, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama in his own words: "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though," he says. Citation - Washington Post, 03 Jan 2007.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: independent voter08 | September 10, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Actually the media bears a bulk of the responsibility for chasing every nonsense the McCain campaign sends out.
His whole strategy is one of faux outrage and game playing.
And the press are the ones that can nullify most of it and send the stupid polarizing silliness to sidelines for good if they stopped jumping for every gossipy thing and reporting every silly mindless campaign spat and stuck with reporting the facts and issues and did not play along with rightwings strategy.
They do it because they know the mindless media will gleefully go for it everytime and ignore the important things about the elections.
Shame on the media for being gullible lap dogs time and again.

Posted by: vwcat | September 10, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama says that we should be "our brother's keeper." However, his OWN brother is living in dire poverty in some hellhole in Kenya. I wonder if Barrack could spare some change from his millions in book royalties (books about himself) to help out his brother. What a hypocrite!! Maybe we can take up a collection to help out Obama's brother. By the way, Obama's brother said that Barrack is "a good Muslim."

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

The McCain-Palin campaign is all about blatant lies and a complete avoidance of real issues. I think it just might be possible that they've gone beyond the Rove tactics of Bush-Cheney. My absolute and utter contempt for McCain and Palin is strengthened ten-fold as every day passes.

Posted by: DogBitez | September 10, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Bill and Hillary must be sitting down now eating their pickled pigs feet and laughing. Its going to be an interesting Palin/Hillary 2012 campaign.

Posted by: Bobby | September 10, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

we've discussed repeatedly http://www.vdare.com/people.htm how dire will be the long-term impact of immigration on the Republican Party. It's crucial to understand, however, that the long-term has not quite arrived. The GOP is not yet held hostage. It still has a window of opportunity - definitely stretching through the next recession but maybe not to the recession after that - to save itself by changing the immigration laws. This can be seen by examining the 2000 election results closely.

The reason George W. Bush struggled so much to eke out a 271-267 win in the Electoral College (assuming that he can hold on to it) is not that he got crushed in the minority vote 77% to 21%. No, it's that he commanded only a measly 54% of the white vote.

To test this theory, I created a huge state-by-state spreadsheet of election results and Voter News Service exit poll numbers [http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/results/index.epolls.html]), which allows me to play what-if games, such as:

What if Bush II had won 57% of the white vote? That's hardly an outlandish figure since Bush I had taken 59% in 1988. If Dubya had garnered 57% instead of just 54% of whites, he would have cruised to an Electoral College landslide of 367 to 171. (Technically, I'm modeling this by raising Bush's share of the white vote by three points in every state.)
Why? Because whites remain by far the dominant bloc in the U.S. They count for 81% of all votes cast. Despite all of Bush's support for diversity, illegal immigrants, bilingualism, "affirmative access," and the like, an overwhelming 92% of his votes came from whites.

What if in upping his share of the white electorate from 54% to 57%, Dubya had alienated more minority voters, causing his share of the nonwhite vote to fall by 8 points from 21% to 13%?
A disaster, right? Wrong. Bush still would have won 310 to 228.

What if in winning those three additional white share points, Dubya had lost every single nonwhite vote in the USA?
Incredibly, he still would have won. Bush would have tied 269-269 in the Electoral College and been elected President by the House of Representatives.

This remarkable finding stems from the sizable advantage the Republicans enjoy in the Electoral College. In this case, Al Gore would have won the popular vote by more than 3 million, but still lost the election because Bush's strength is in small states. Since every state, no matter how small the population, gets three Electoral Votes for having two Senators and a Representative, the Republican dominance of the Great Plains and Great Basin provides a striking advantage.

By the way, this is the flip side of the Republican catastrophe in California. When cultural conservatives flee California for the interior West, the GOP picks up cheap Electoral Votes and Senate seats in small states.

Now, let's turn it around. What if instead of Bush adding three percent of the white vote (for which he would have gained 96 Electoral Votes), he had instead boosted his nonwhite vote by three points, from 21% to 24%?
He would have picked up five more Electoral Votes. Big deal.

If Bush had doubled his share of the nonwhite vote, from 21% to 42% and somehow avoided losing any white votes, he still would have gained only 52 Electoral Votes.
So where could Bush have picked up an additional 3 percent of the white vote? The most obvious source: white union families. The 26% of the electorate with a union member in their households voted 59% to 37% for Gore. For the time being, most union families are still white. So if Bush could have won enough white labor families to raise his total labor vote from 37% to about 46%, that would have done the trick of lifting his share of the white vote from 54% to 57%.

What could persuade more white union families to vote Republican when the current AFL-CIO leadership is so leftist? Here's a suggestion.

The labor bosses are selling out their old time members' interests in order to try to pad their membership with immigrants, legal and illegal. That's why the AFL-CIO supremos recently called for another amnesty for illegal immigrants. [http://www.vdare.com/afl-cio.htm] Immigration should be the perfect issue for the GOP to use to split the rank and file from their Democratic bosses.

Since union efforts cost Bush Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin (at a minimum), you'd think that the GOP would be hot to win back the Reagan Democrats.

Don't count on it, though. It's just so much more fashionable to continue to chase futilely after Hispanics.

In summary: the GOP could win more elections by raising its fraction of the white vote minimally than by somehow grabbing vastly higher fractions of the minority vote.

I said "could."

Posted by: Joe | September 10, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Judgment deserves preeminent consideration when we assess a leader, for sound judgment trumps experience, a more indirect means of assessment. Good judgment is another way of describing wisdom, and wisdom does not necessarily grow with age.

Next to the record of past judgments, a key test of judgment is the agenda of issues to which a leadership candidate accords priority. What problems does s/he address? How enduringly important are these particular problems in the sensibilities of those who are listening?

Posted by: Four more years? | September 10, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

If it is polarizing for McCain to pick a woman for VP, then he is guilty. Obama was blindsided. He had a chance to pick a woman and he blew it. Mr. Wonderful felt he didn't need a woman.

For half a year Obama's campaign used race baiting as a tactic against the Clintons and used sexism against Hillary. Now he is mad at McCain for playing the victim. It must be quite a surprise to be on the other side.

Posted by: alance | September 10, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse


Is it too late for the Democrats to have another convention? Seriously, what are the rules on this? They need to have an emergency meeting to reconsider their choice of nominee. Buyer's remorse.

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

This is what we get for giving women the right to vote. The Founding Fathers didn't have to put up with this silliness.

Posted by: Cakewalk | September 10, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama = 43%

McCain = 47%

Posted by: wert678bug | September 10, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Dan, Dan, Dan!

The "divisions" in the country are not the result of campaigning, and you know it.

The country is divided because it has a crooked, nasty, intellectually challenged and unscrupulous dictator in the White House, and the public has noticed.

The MSM, including YOU, would like us to believe that the cause of all this is something else.
Most of us would also like to believe that it is something else.
But that would entail using the "shut off and self destruct" button on our brains.
And that is asking too much.

Posted by: wardropper | September 10, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Boyle!

ABOLISH THE 2 PARTY DICTATORSHIP!
ABOLISH THE 2 PARTY DICTATORSHIP!
ABOLISH THE 2 PARTY DICTATORSHIP!

Posted by: M. Porcius Cato | September 10, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

More evidence that Obama is seriously considering replacing Biden with Hillary...

"Make no mistake about this," Biden responded. "Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Let’s get that straight. She’s a truly close personal friend, she is qualified to be president of the United States of America, she’s easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America and quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me. But she’s first rate, I mean that sincerely, she’s first rate, so let’s get that straight."

Posted by: Feryuz45 | September 10, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

this campaign is still young, yet it has taken a nasty turn not seen in previous campaigns. yes, they all exaggerate and twist things, but this one, as noted at www.straightrecord.com/randomrants, is dealing in flat-out lies intended to be told. the mccain/palin campaign has all the smell of karl rove, who promotes lying.

Posted by: jumpingelephant | September 10, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

LOL!

Barry Hussein (aka Senator Purple Lips) let it slip about his true "Muslim faith" whilst being inviewed by George Stephanopoulos.


OBAMA: No, uh, well, uh, well, look, the -- the, uhhhh. Listen, uhhh, you and I both know that the minute that Governor Palin was, uh -- was, uh, forced to talk about her daughter, I immediately said, "That's off-limits. And -- and -- and -- and --

STEPHANOPOULOS: John McCain did the same thing about questioning your faith.

OBAMA: And what -- what was the first thing the McCain campaign went out and did? They -- they said, uhhh, look, uhhh, his liberal blogs that support Obama (nervous laugh) are out there attacking Governor Palin. I mea- ih, uh, uh, eh, L-l-let's not play games. W-w-what I was suggesting, you are absolutely right that John McCain has not, uh, talked about my Muslim faith, and you're absolutely right that that has not come --

STEPHANOPOULOS: Christian faith.

OBAMA: Uh, M-my Christian faith.

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 10, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Dale, you are calling WAPO a liberal media?? Either you are ignorant or brain-washed.

Posted by: Guy From LA | September 10, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

And now some news.
Palin is a supporter of an anti-semite racist who wanted to kill FDR! When will No-Balz cover this?!
Palin's source

Thomas Frank noticed in the Journal today that Sarah Palin used an odd source for a quote in her announcement speech attributed only to a "writer."

"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity," she said, drawing from a once-powerful, now forgotten mid-century conservative columnist named Westbrook Pegler.

It's an odd source because Pegler, who moved further right as his career went on, ended up very, very far out. Frank notes that he talked hopefully of the assassination of Franklin Roosevelt.

He was also known for what Philip Roth described as his "casual distaste for Jews," which had become so evident by the end that he was bounced from the journal of the John Birch Society in 1964 for alleged anti-semitism. According to his obituary, he'd advanced the theory that American Jews of Eastern European descent were "instinctively sympathetic to Communism, however outwardly respectable they appeared."

It's unlikely that Palin wrote the speech or dug up the quote, though it's possible. The line does come from a strand of conservative populism that isn't particularly native to McCain or his usual rhetoric: The only other source for that Pegler easily available online is a 1990 book by Patrick Buchanan

Posted by: Anti-semite Palin | September 10, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama did not call Palin a pig with lipstick. This is a lie. So I fail to see how Obama is running a polarizing campaign. Balz is defacto helping the McCain campaign by lumping Obama's remarkably civil campaign in with the meretricious garbage being shoveled by McCain and especially Palin.

Posted by: scientist1 | September 10, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

post of the day - you are a disgusting racist fool. read james baldwin's short story, "going to meet the man," if you can read. i'm sure you'd relate to the narrator.

Posted by: ewwww | September 10, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Changing Washington is so critical right now - America not only needs to get rid of the entire Bush Administration, but also to start restoring the civil liberties and respect for human rights that we had before Bush (not that Bill Clinton was any prize.) The radical polarization that Karl Rove used to get Bush elected and get his agenda railroaded through worked pretty effectively for a while, but it looks like McCain's trying to pretend he's not part of that and that it was the Democrats' fault. (Meanwhile, most of the Democrats and independents I know despise Bush so much that we'd be happy to take Richard Nixon back, dead or alive.)

As a third-party voter who lives in a state where Obama's a sure thing to win, I'm glad I don't need to vote for him, though my own Libertarian Party has been taken over by quasi-Republicans as well.

I've seen no evidence over the last 7 years that McCain wants to change Washington, and he's been toadying up to Bush aggressively since 2004. Perhaps he'll have reformist Sarah Palin throw Halliburton under the bus to pretend they're cleaning up the place, but he's never said anything about dismantling the whole surveillance infrastructure that was built up under the Patriot Act, nor about changing America's relationship with the Muslim world so they stop perceiving us as crusaders.

Barack Obama may be a bit of a stuffed shirt, and he's been wimping out on the war which was one of his most important issues during the primary. But these days the Democrats have become the Party of Fiscal Responsibility, not by reducing their wide-eyed optimism about how much good they can do by spending tax money, but simply by default - the Bush Administration has been running up huge deficits, spending money like drunken sailors, and then getting extra-special appropriations for the war. John McCain's been resurrecting the Voodoo Economics that tripled the national debt under Reagan, ignoring the fact that you can't borrow a trillion dollars without it affecting the mortgage market, and ignorant of the fact that in today's global capital market you can't inflate away your debt the way Reagan did because the Chinese will stop lending you money.

And that lipstick-on-a-pig remark might have been only mildly a bad idea before Sarah Palin's comparison of herself-as-hockey-mom with a pit bull, back when John McCain was also using that metaphor, but now it's either a badly-planned deliberate provocation or unplanned stupidity. (Remember that I want the guy to win, and losing potential support from Hillary's pro-feminist base means he's losing fund-raisers and campaign workers, even if they aren't going to vote for McCain anyway.)

Posted by: Bill in SF | September 10, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Jake D.: I'd really suggest you read this: http://www.outragedcitizen.com/index.cgi

I realize it's not the usual right-wing pablum you're spoonfed, but it's about time you get clue.
Of all the cheap stunts the McCain camp has pulled, this "outrage" one may be the dumbest yet.

Posted by: vegasgirl | September 10, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Obama got balls. That's what the American people want. I will be repeating this message often so get used to it.

Posted by: katman | September 10, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Is it the campaigns that create divisiveness, or is it perhaps the media's coverage of the campaigns that creates divisiveness, because how can you have a story if you don't emphasize some polarizing point?

Posted by: netgotham | September 10, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

All that stuff that Obama sly mean nasty things did to Clinton in PA, like giving her "the finger" and brushing off his suit like she was dirt on his shoulder like the JayZ (?) hip hop song, he thought that was really cute & his audiences clapped and cheered.

And he lost, big time.

Who wants to elect a president who sneaks out furtive slurs & sends insulting signal code like a 13-year old?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm curious. If Obama can't coolly handle the vagaries of a heated campaign and redirect, what right will he use to claim POTUS? My goodness... a dirty campaign... who would have thought such a thing could happen? This is nothing compared to what he will face as POTUS. Right now, his campaign seems flatfooted and flailing - a recipe for failure in a high stakes boxing match. Perhaps my support for Obama has been mistaken and I must now face the reality that (despite the odor of some of his politics) the better man will win.

Posted by: Jon_Oh | September 10, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

"It will require a renewed sense of responsibility from each of us to recover what John F. Kennedy called our "intellectual and moral strength." "

Intellectual and moral strength are things that really bug rightwingers, on account of the fact that they have neither.

Seriously, when was the last time that the rightwing actually used any intellectual strength at all and addressed a problem that faced the US?

Democrats want to discuss health care for all Americans, but rightwingers scream "No, that's socialism!"

Obama's plan is to cut taxes for the middle class to help the economy grow, but McCain's plan would cut taxes for the upper class ... yet again.

Obama offered to keep the campaign focused on the issues that matter to Americans. McCain has chosen to whine about a phrase everyone knows and has used for years, keeps his vice presidential nominee away from any sort of objective questioning, and runs ads accussing Obama of wanting to teach sex education to students before they are old enough to read.

Rightwingers are 100 percent about trying to win elections and 0 percent about knowing what to do if they are elected.

Posted by: castanea | September 10, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Dan --

Man up, buddy!

You talk about "campaigns" and then proceed to talk about McCain/Palin's "stretching of the truth" --try lying. Call it what it is for crying out loud.

Where are the comparable Obama/Biden lies? There aren't any!

The negatives on the other side are from anonymous internet or blogging sources.

They are not equal!

Man up, buddy! Try being a journalist not a water boy for the Republicans.

Aren't 8 years of lies enough?

Posted by: ponderer | September 10, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

The next step is violence. I'm ready.

Posted by: tomhere | September 10, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Jesus was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

Posted by: hopeftomorrow | September 10, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

There is a difference between bloggers spreading rumors and an official campaign call for an apology from Obama for something he didn't say or intend.

I thought McCain was going to run a dignified campaign?

Posted by: mkevinf | September 10, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Pop! Why the Obama Bubble Has Collapsed
by James Pethokous

"The Obama campaign seems to have experienced a "Minsky Moment." That, as any financial bubblologist worth his weight in tulips knows, is the particular point in time when no more "greater fools" can be found to support a bubble and a Great Deflation finally begins. Sssssss. (The financial phenomenon is named after economist Hyman Minksy.)...

"In reading the history of nations, we find that, like individuals, they have their whims and their peculiarities; their seasons of excitement and recklessness, when they care not what they do. We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first.... Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one...."

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/9/10/pop-why-the-obama-bubble-has-collapsed.html

LOL. I think that the author's attempt to make parallels between the tech stock bubble & Obama's bursting "bubble" is too strained.

There are some things that are analogous. But, ultimately, the person who has launched a political campaign using a pop-culture, personality-based "wave" that is leveraged off the attentions of millions of people. Pop culture being what it is, that "wave" of millions of particles of attention is necessarily attention of the attention deficit disorder variety.

I.e. a fad can spread quickly & become very lucrative & powerful for whomever can benefit from it. But they cal also go bust very quickly if they begin to seem uncool or stupid or lame.

Obama torpedoed his campaign by going for a negative Fall strategy. He looks old & mean when he becomes an attacker. That campaign speech he gave was dreadful. His sneer & jeer personality is very unattractive on him. If he thinks he can win as an angry black man picking fights with a little old white haired POW & a cute, healthy white mom of 5, he's wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I am with Obama -- I have had enough. And the issue isn't Palin and her gender. The issue is McCain and his age. Palin's youth further underscores that issue. He is the oldest candidate for a first term presidency ever. And I don't care how old his Mom is, she doesn't have the pressures of being the leader of the free world. This video highlights our concerns, especially about his thinking. It's about 2 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62dO_pIrWoU

Posted by: bilco5 | September 10, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Obama had gotten away with so much during the democratic primary he thought easy street was going to continue forever. He doesn't have the confines of the democratic party to protect him anymore and it is showing.

Posted by: Bobby | September 10, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey AsperGirl, I want to use the republican tactic on you. You sure talk about Obama alot, you sure hate that guy. What's the matter, are you afraid he's going to win?

hahhhhahhahahahhh! You're either off the methadone or on the methedrine, something's happened in your little life. Why don't you come on over, we'll talk about it.

Posted by: heyt | September 10, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin say they are for change. I guess what they are really saying is that Sarah is after the change in our pockets. It may be legal to draw per diem while at home but it sure as hell makes her look like a cheap and conniving thief. As a federal employee, I know we weren't auhtorized per die, while living at home. I guess its different for those self sufficient Alaskans.

Posted by: Steve Johnson | September 10, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Instead of tempests about familiar catch phrases, let's focus on what really matters:

From:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/55atsk


Monday, September 08, 2008
Fear and the Result of Our Decisions: Media, Palin and Iraq

I recall keenly the days of the run-up to the Iraq war. How many

journalists--including those I knew and admired--drew back from criticism

of obvious gaps and flaws in the logic leading to the conflict; who,

despite stories of critical importance for the future of the nation

hanging before them, left them hanging in the group-reinforced fear that

they would be accused of a lack of patriotism if they were to report

them.

And so they were left to be reported long after--in books looking back at

the clear issues, landmark errors, and trail of missed opportunities that

has led to the fatal outcomes we now see before us.

The issues were there at the time. To be reported.

They were not.

Today, they are again being cowed, by an equally powerful fear of

unnecessary intimidation and restraint, the consequences of which stretch

far beyond those that we have seen in Iraq.

At a time when we are at war, the economy in shambles, when today Fannie

and Freddie Mac are, for the first time in their history, in effect being

nationalized, we are being swept by emotion and fear--career fear--into

ignoring a situation that would likely send us tumbling into the unknown.

For the short-term fear that each journalist feels, in being perceived as

"unpatriotic" to vague, manifest threats regarding gender--they fail to

report issues that have nothing to do with gender: the preparedness of a

candidate for Vice President of the United States, running alongside an

elderly and chronically ill Presidential candidate.

Instead--just as in the run-up to Iraq--each is making the easier

choice--to join the risk-averse chorus of personality pieces, each, in

the same diffusion of responsibility that had such a major role in

leading us into the war in Iraq, taking the route that leads away from

fact, regardless of gender.

As in Iraq, reporting fact--regardless of pressure for a mindless

conformity and silence--represented actual patriotism, providing the

nation with the information it needed to make a reliable and authentic

decision, so reporting the facts here--regardless of pressure for an

unthinking conformity represents a true balance, a true equality, a true

lack of bias.

This is a time of difficult decisions. However, those decisions--your

decisions--matter. We have seen this.

Report it. Don't be cowed.

Cite:
Head of State
http://tinyurl.com/55atsk

Posted by: cara prado | September 10, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Good article!

Polarization is destroying our Republic, but can be blamed on neither candidate because their behavior is a symptom of a much deeper cancer. The term itself, implying that there are only two ways to look at any problem, is instructive. It arises from the stranglehold of the two-party dictatorship which will continue until such time as we unburden ourselves of the archaic and unnecessary single-member district system and replace it with a true "One citizen, one vote" system of real representation.

In their ever more desperate attempts to gain or hold power, the two parties cast every issue, now matter how complex or nuanced, as a dichotomy. They refuse to admit their own mistakes and pillory the other side for theirs. The ship of state swings wildly from left to right only to end up becalmed in an doldrum of ineffectiveness. The government accomplishes less every year as the two parties bicker and back-bite.

How often do we hear the partisans of one camp 'defending' some Senator or other official of their party caught in some malfeasance by pointing to an official on the other side who's commited a similar affront as though two wrongs make a right? How many times have our 'leaders' refuse to admit their errors and, rather, attempt to brazen things out in direct contravention of reality and reason because of their dread that to admit a mistake will automatically bring the other side to power?

There is room in this country of 300 million for more than two parties and not every American can fit comfortably into the liberal or conservative box. Unfortunately, so long as the single as the single-member district system exists it will continue to mitigate towards a two-party structure and against good governance!

ABOLISH THE SINGLE-MEMBER DISTRICT SYSTEM!

DOWN WITH THE TWO-PARTY DICTATORSIP!

Posted by: Andrew Boyle | September 10, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

you people disgust me. i was actually excited to vote for a major party candidate this election (for the first time since my first presidential election--this is my 4th), but if this is what passes for political discourse, i am considering saying 'eff it. i cannot even believe how incredibly ignorant and shallow most of these posts are. as a college rhetoric teacher it makes me sick and ashamed of the american education system.

Posted by: ewwww | September 10, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

The Mayor of New York, Ed Koch, has endorsed OBAMA.

"Protecting and defending the U.S. means more than defending us from foreign attacks," Koch said, citing such concerns as civil liberties, abortion rights, gay rights and access to health insurance.

Koch said he is particularly troubled by Palin's record in those areas."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20080910/co_po/edkochpalinscaresthehelloutofme

Posted by: there is no anonymous anymore | September 10, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Want an insult??

McCain is a lying sack of sh*t and his VP is a trailer park pig with lipstick.

How's that?

Posted by: toritto | September 10, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

What do you call McSame brown nosing Dubya for the past four years so he can be the Republican presidential nominee?

Answer: Lips stick in a Pig!

Posted by: KEVIN SCHMIDT | September 10, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I have been a proud Democrat so far. It was evident that Democrat should be getting back the White House. But such goof about the lipstick is going to cause an irrepairable damage. Sen. Obama is explaining his stand un=vain and the valuable time is being wasyed. He shpuld realize that such comments have caused an anger among Independents and women. Bill and Hilary Clinton may find it difficult to salvage this campaign. The polarization, issue oriented theme may be difficult to get traction. Sen. Obama has to be careful in commenting on Gov. Palin. Any explanation by Bill may not work because of his flirtatious past. Only Hillary can come to rescue. Should she try to do that, her people, especially females, may not like that either. Jusr stay away in commenting on women till election day or say adios to the White House. Repulican campaign machine has been able to find an issue which has enormous traction. Good luck.

Posted by: aristocrat | September 10, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are the bridge to nowhere.

Posted by: alexpope | September 10, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Dan, McCain is campaigning in a dishonorable and deceitful way, and you know it. Furthermore, to choose an unqualified VP nominee simply to energize his campaign is cynical at best and irresponsible at worst. Please stop trying to spread the blame evenly, the media have to start calling McCain and Palin on their outright lies and manipulations, and stop with the non-stop pep rally with absolutely zero accountability to the press and the public.

Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | September 10, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm an old retired guy who doesn’t have to work and I can honestly say it won't matter to me in the long run who wins this election. At my age any election I participate in could be my last. I do believe however that the current administration has been the worst in my lifetime (born during FDR). I don't think anyone can rationally deny that. We have had 8 years of corruption, unnecessary war and shredding of the Constitution. Over the weekend we reached the highest unemployment rate in 5 years and the deregulated Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had to be rescued by the taxpayers before they collapsed of their own accord. Now this party wants us to give them 4 more years so that John the "maverick" can fix Washington. ...like I was born yesterday.

If "small town working class" rust-belt voters and disgruntled Clinonistas in Ohio, Pa., Michigan and Indiana help re-elect the GOP then I for one don't want to hear anymore whining from them about their disappearing jobs and livelihoods, the high cost of college and gas, lack of health care etc. Let Johnnie's "patriotism" put food on your table. Go flip burghers!

Screw 'ya. Cling to your guns and religion. Pray to Jesus when you go hunting for a meal. Stay with that church and keep your weapon. You will need both the soup kitchen and the rifle. You will deserve what you get.

I got mine already. I live comfortably in the sunny South on a golf course, got my steady income, my "socialist" medicare and prescription drug coverage that you younger people wish you had but will never get under the Republicans. I sent my girls to college and they are successfully out on their own. The world won't run out of gas before I go and the planet won't get too hot.

A McCain election ain't gonna hurt me!

As Johnny Carson used to say - I upped my lifestyle - up yours!

God helps those who help themselves - if you're in deep doodoo economically and you're stupid enough to vote Republican for their "values", you deserve it.

Posted by: toritto | September 10, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

What Kind of Plagiarist Is Joe Biden?
(THE UNUSUALLY CREEPY KIND)
Slate Article By Jack Shafer

"Joe Biden's return as a vice-presidential candidate signals forgiveness—at least from Barack Obama—for having plagiarized a leading British politician during Biden's campaign for the Democratic Party's 1988 presidential nomination.

"The Biden episode merits revisiting because as acts of plagiarism go, it was spectacular, and because it points to other dicey chapters in his life. To know Biden in full, you must appreciate his parts.

"Biden's puttering campaign for president effectively died on Sept. 13, 1987, when the New York Times' Maureen Dowd reported that he had pinched major elements of a recent and celebrated speech by Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock. That speech, included in this May 1987 Labor Party broadcast, begins at the 7:23 mark.

"But Biden didn't merely borrow words and phrasings from Kinnock, which is a time-honored practice of candidates and their speechwriters and is almost never regarded as plagiarism. He became Kinnock,as David Greenberg writes today, claiming things about himself and his family that were untrue and that he knew to be untrue."

...
(more at: http://www.slate.com/id/2198597/)

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

To: jcdw
Re: Our conversation about HOW Obama plans to fund his Tax Cuts


I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but here is the information straight from Obama's mouth...you can't get any clearer than this (from his acceptance speech).

"Now, many of these plans will cost money, which is why I've laid out how I'll pay for every dime, by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens that don't help America grow. But I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less, because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.

And Democrats, we must also admit that fulfilling America's promise will require more than just money. It will require a renewed sense of responsibility from each of us to recover what John F. Kennedy called our "intellectual and moral strength.""

Posted by: BasicInstinct | September 10, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a concept. He has a warm baritone voice, an easy manner and a strong confident look. And that about sums up his actual qualifications. And now in a twist of fate he finds himself warring against another pop icon, Sarah Palin. The whole contest is vacuous, meaningless and a very telling barometer of the weak-mindedness of the American public.

The greatest danger facing America today is not the Russians, the Chinese, the falling dollar or energy. No the real problem is the failed two-party system which threatens to financially bankrupt our nation. The whole point of the two-party system in the modern age is to gush dollars down the throats of the special interest groups which own them.

Posted by: joh | September 10, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Polls two months before the election may not be reliable guides to how votes will be cast. You have to think, though, that the fact of a close race when the incumbent Republican President has been more unpopular for longer than any President since modern polling began is a kind of indictment of Sen. Obama's campaign.

The two least popular words today among American voters are "Bush" and "Republican." It's a mistake for the Democrats to take this unpopularity for granted, and revert to stale, stylized campaign rhetoric about "Bush's failed policies." Voters need to be reminded of why they dislike Bush and the Republican Party, and the Democrats aren't doing that. They need to understand Obama in terms of his disdain for an administration they already think poorly of, rather than in terms of his opposition to sen. McCain, who they don't dislike as much, and the Democrats aren't doing that. They also need to hear that Sen. McCain lines up behind President Bush on nearly every issue that matters -- from McCain, not from Democratic campaign consultants on cable television. Obama's campaign isn't doing anything to make that happen either.

Barack Obama does better running against George Bush than he does running against John McCain. He might as well do that, since the Republicans are George Bush's party much more than they are McCain's, anyway. Obama has gotten himself invested in a particular image of himself and of America -- basically, of himself as a transformational leader who can bring America together and make Americans do what he wants. That's fine, but he needs to understand that it isn't how he sees himself that matters to American voters. It isn't his vision for the future, either.

The reason this is a "change" election is that American voters think the current President and his party have let them down. A Democratic campaign that ignores this, and tries to make this election about John McCain (let alone Sarah Palin) could still scrape across the finish line first -- but in this situation Democrats should win in a landslide, up and down the ballot, and that isn't going to happen the ways things are going now.

Posted by: Zathras | September 10, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

So, Obama would win the war on terror by abolishing Don't Ask Don't Tell in the US Armed Forces, and placing gay sergeants and officers in positions of authority over young US enlisted men and women.

This ought to attract hordes of gays to enlist. But I don't think straight people will find enforced upclose and personal associations with gays all that attractive.

Posted by: DaTourist | September 10, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

So, Obama would win the war on terror by abolishing Don't Ask Don't Tell in the US Armed Forces, and placing gay sergeants and officers in positions of authority over young US enlisted men and women.

This ought to attract hordes of gays to enlist. But I don't think straight people will find enforced upclose and personal associations with gays all that attractive.

Posted by: DaTourist | September 10, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Let me say that four more years of George Bush sounds better to me than giving the keys to our civilization to someone that subscribes to the prophecy and impending armageddon.

If God brought us to fight in Iraq, what's next, Iran? Then a nuclear war with Russia and China? These people are MAD.

Please, if not the Democrats, bring back Bush/Cheney. They're better than these doomsayers.

Posted by: Larry Craig | September 10, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Shocking the WaPo fell for this crap. Considering America's problems I can't think of a bigger waste if time!!!

Posted by: Max Mergatroid | September 10, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=WdBJd9b9i8A

Is this Black male the real father of Bristol's baby.

Posted by: Quincy | September 10, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Polarization? Is that a bad thing?

If your son or daughter had to serve under the authority of gay NCOs and officers in the US Armed Forces, you'll wish for polarization, but you can only get it by refusing to enlist.

Yes, Obama's on record saying he will abolish Don't Ask Don't Tell in the US Armed Services.

Posted by: DaTourist | September 10, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Polarization? Is that a bad thing?

If your son or daughter had to serve under the authority of gay NCOs and officers in the US Armed Forces, you'll wish for polarization, but you can only get it by refusing to enlist.

Yes, Obama's on record saying he will abolish Don't Ask Don't Tell in the US Armed Services.

Posted by: DaTourist | September 10, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

FACT: If you were raped and are now pregnant, Sarah Palin believes YOU MUST have that baby. That's right: IN SARAH PALIN'S WORLD, IF YOU WERE RAPED, YOU MUST CARRY THE BABY OF THE RAPIST TO TERM.

If that's what you want, you know what to do.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

"Obama's years as a state senator in Illinois were so devoid of any leadership that he voted "present" 130 times instead of "yes" or "no" "

In the 110th Congress, Obama missed 45 percent of Senate votes, which is regrettable but understandable because the Democratic primary extended well into the summer.

In the 110th Congress, McCain missed 64 percent of Senate votes, despite the fact that he had his party's nomination wrapped up months before Obama.

Maybe McCain was at his "cabin" in Sedona, barbecuing for his good friends in the media, or walking around Baghdad in body armor and with military escort, telling us all how safe the city was?

Posted by: castanea | September 10, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin and the Prophecy

Why we should be terrified of Sarah Palin getting her hands on the nuclear football.

From The Times (UK) - September 10, 2008

At the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, Sarah Palin’s former pastor sees powerful signs that the end of the world is nigh.

Pastor Ed Kalnins cites conflict in the Middle East, America’s dependence on foreign oil and the depletion of energy reserves as evidence that “storm clouds are gathering”. He told The Times: “Scripture specifically mentions oil instability as a sign of the Rapture. We’re seeing more and more oil wars. The contractions of the fulfilment of prophecies are getting tighter and tighter.”

He declined to set an exact date for the Rapture, or the “End of Days” – the belief in a time when Jesus will return, raising up believers to Heaven and leaving the wicked to be ruled by the Antichrist – but hopes it will be in his lifetime. “I’m looking out the window and I can see it’s going to rain,” he said. “I’m just looking at the turmoil of the world, Iraq, other places – everywhere people are fighting against Christ.”

Link to full article below:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4720440.ece

Quotes from her current pastor, Mike Rose:

From an April 27, 2008 sermon: “If you really want to know where you came from and happen to believe the word of God that you are not a descendant of a chimpanzee, this is what the word of God says. I believe this version.”

From a July 8, 2007 sermon: “Those that die without Christ have a horrible, horrible surprise.”

From a July 28, 2007 sermon: “Do you believe we’re in the last days? After listening to Newt Gingrich and the prime minister of Israel and a number of others at our gathering, I became convinced, and I have been convinced for some time. We are living in the last days. These are incredible times to live in.”

link to full article:

http://harpers.org/archive/2008/08/hbc-90003486

Posted by: Larry Craig | September 10, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

As usual, the LIARS McCain and Palin are LYING once again. This time about the reformer crap and the Lipstick comment. And their kool-aid drinking followers here just lap it up like a sermon on Sunday.

Got news for you: Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere, decided to be "against" it when Congress cut it's funding, but decided to keep the money anyway. So when she says she said "thanks, but no thanks," she's LYING.

When John McCain said he would run an honorable campaign, and then hired all the sleaze balls who took him down in 2000 to try to deal with Obama, he LIED.

The irony here is that there are many people out there who supported McCain in 2000 but now support Obama, because the McCain of 2008 is a LIAR, and has completely disowned the McCain of the past.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Maybe...the clueless, jackass, ghetto trash-talking, insensitive woman-basher was grappling with a way to turn that dumb "pit-bull/lipstick" question around on itself, and oversteppped. Who hasn't been there?

Posted by: Cakewalk | September 10, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

It seems that Pobama has got that Russell Brand sense of humor!

Sarah, a pig?

Take it back, Pobama!

This lady from Alaska will be President of the Senate after November 4, 2008, and you may be spending more time there than you are now.

Posted by: DaTourist | September 10, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

As an Independent Voter am I the only one sitting here after seeing Obama for a year now thinking that he is not a smart man? He studders and stammers through everything and he appears to no be thinking on his own.

Posted by: CM | September 10, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I worked for Chrysler in St. Louis and recently lost my job because of this economy and all you people have to talk about is lipstick and animals.

None of you have a clue what it is like.

None of you have had to wonder where your next meal is going to come from or how you are going to pay your childrens medical bills.

You REALLY don't have a clue.

What I do know, is that Bush was the president when our economy began to sink and McCain is leading the charge to talk about a whole lot of nothing.

I'll take my chances with something, someone, anyone diffent.

This campaign reminds me of 2004.

You people just DON'T get it.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | September 10, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Many comments here in response to Dan Balz's rather mild "Trail" observations are some of the most racist and offensive I've come across. The hateful anti-Obama venting, however, does serve the purpose of having people say in a public forum (under the guise of anonymity) what many more are, unfortunately, thinking and saying in private. This is just the start of what I think threatens to be the ugliest campaign in U.S. history. It will make the swifboaters seem like sweethearts by comparison.


Posted by: alexpope | September 10, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

My dear Democrats, Pobama's your man. It's too late to turn back to Hillary.

Pobama is your fate. It's just that simple. And, yes, dear Democrats, and you and Pobama deserve one another.

Posted by: DaTourist | September 10, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Pobama!

Unlike for Hillary, women rallied to Palin, and it sho' is killin' Pobama!

Posted by: DaTourist | September 10, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

The extreme responses--especially the racist screeds against Obama--underline the point of Dan Balz's piece. Poisonous partisanship. And it ain't going to get better. All journalists better get kevlar body armour for the duration of the campaign.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Indie voters have moved to McCain decisively.

McCain leads Obama in Independents by a margin of 16 percent.

Obama made his convention about pivoting to attack Bush & tag McCain as a "Same as Bush". The latter speakers at the dem convention were all attacking Republicans.

There's also a blast of attacks against Sarah Palin & John McCain.

That strategy is working out really well for Obama. He's transformed himself from an empty suit with a vaguely "hope" and "post-racial" message into being an accusatory, angry young black man who never really earned anything on his own attacking and jeering at little old white man who was a POW for 5 years & a sweet, cheerful mom of 5.

That's working out really well for him.

As part of her senior thesis, Michelle Obama studied how a black man had to position himself to be accepted as a leader by white people.

I wonder where being an angry, sneers-and-jeers attacker of little old white men and cute, popular white moms fits into that picture.

Obama's campaign is going downhill. It's not going to go anywhere positive from here.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama obviously wants to run the campaign on the issues, McCain wants to run the campaign on non-issues, because he has no platform to run on. McCain has no reform agenda, it's the same Bush agenda. McCain is too old to even think up an agenda. He is running on Palin's getting him votes. The countries around the world are looking at the circus McCain has created and are not happy. I talk to friends all over the world, and in their specific countries, they are shocked at this reckless McCain. Such an important position, the presidency of the United States and he has pick an ignorant, sleezy running mate. They both should be tried for treason.

Posted by: mzbond | September 10, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Well, I hate to admit it, but I think I have been convinced. After reading the comments here, I have indeed come to believe that Obama wants to kill babies, teach the ones who survive about sex so that they themselves can have more babies, is intent upon having the United States taken over by Very Bad Third World People, is Muslim (and therefore probably a terrorist), and is a "ghetto (read: black) woman-basher. Keep up the enlightened debate, folks. Very impressive.

Posted by: Alexis de Tocqueville | September 10, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Donate to the mccain campaign at:

www.ит_шит_анд_дий.com

Posted by: links | September 10, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

McCain is carrying on the fine GOP tradition of polarizing the country to gain political power. Since 9/11/01 the Republican party has used the 9/11 attack on the US as a powerful weapon to use against it's political rivals. Rudy Guiliani known as Mr. 9/11 has not hesitated to use this issue to attack Democrats. McCain is trying the same old tired "Rovian" stragegy and I pray this time the dark side will not succeed.

Posted by: A.Lincoln | September 10, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Balz,

You mention in the first paragraph of your article that both parties are contributing to the politics of polarization, yet you offer no evidence of Obama's contributions to such invective. This is another example of a journalist who feel some phony obligation to "balance" his story by emphasizing the culpability of both sides, even though scant evidence exists. Be honest here; this is a one-sided smear campaign, and you have a responsibility to call it as such.

Posted by: chris spiel | September 10, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Give it an EFFING rest!

McCain is the ONE running a campaign from the lowest depths of the gutter.

Posted by: Brent Mack | September 10, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

The problem with your article, Mr. Balz, is that you conflate the nonsense that happens on the internet with the actual claims being made directly by the campaigns. In a classic attempt to be "balanced," you merely balance truth with lies...which is not really balancing anything at all. It's just being complicit in lies. Look, there's no doubt there are a lot of sleazy rumors about Palin on the internet...just as there have been sleazy rumors about Obama for the past 2 years. But don't conflate an advertisement in which John McCain "approves of" the message that Obama wants to teach your kids about sex before they're old enough to read, or that he's pretending to be outraged by Obama calling Palin a pig, when it's obvious to absolutely anyone who sees that speech that he didn't....don't conflate this with punks on the internet developing conspiracy theories about Palin's kids. Doing so debases the dignity of journalism.

Posted by: KCCraig | September 10, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

"Real issues"? Obama called Palin "a pig with lipstick"!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 2:56 PM
-------------------------
God save the queen her fascist regime
It made you a moron a potential h bomb !

God save the queen she aint no human being
There is no future in englands dreaming

Dont be told what you want dont be told what you need
Theres no future no future no future for you

Posted by: JakeE | September 10, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

SORRRY TO INTERUPT THE PARTY I REALLY AM
BUT THIS IS BREAKING NEWS...AND MORE IS TO COME! THIS IS NOT A SMEAR...THIS IS FACT AND PUBLIC RECORD

http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.o_case_sum?71417541

CHECK OUT THE STATE OF ALAKSA COURT PUBLIC RECORD AND TYPE IN SARAH PALIN YOU WILL BE SURPRISED ON WHAT YOU WILL FIND

********SHE IS JUST THE SAME OLD TYPE OF REPUBLICAN!****

Posted by: MONIQUE | September 10, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Geez AsperGirl, did you throw yourself at Obama and he turned you down?

This is one of two things:

1) an obsession. You are obsessed, I suggest medical intervention a soon as possible. Are you going to hang yourself if he wins?

2) The RNC pays per-post and per-word.

Posted by: asdf | September 10, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA HAS SO MUCH LESS TO OFFER THAN SARAH PALIN

Obama is a freshman senator in the U.S. senate and has been mainly engaged in running for president since his first year. What is his professional history?

Obama got a "community organizer" job after 2 years of unemployment after graduating from Columbia with a bachelor's degree. And as his book admits, he didn't get anywhere as a "community organizer" and that's why he went back to law school.

And as we all know, after graduating from law school, Obama failed to make partner at his law firm, set no precedents in cases he might have handled, didn't get published in any law review and didn't produce any scholarly or professional works of any nature contributing to the field of law.

Obama's probably the only politician in the U.S. to not accomplish a single thing with an ivy league law degree before going into politics.

Obama's years as a state senator in Illinois were so devoid of any leadership that he voted "present" 130 times instead of "yes" or "no", now claiming he had to do so to avoid taking stands on "controversial legislation" (as if there were 130 career-killing controversial laws he had to take a pass on at the state level, come on!).

As an Illinois state senator, Obama climbed the greased pole of corrupt, dirty Chicago politics leveraging racist politics of Trinity Church, insider ex-radical terrorists like William Ayers' networks and trading favors with corruption figures like his convicted slumlord friend Tony Rezko.

Obama has never published journal article in any law review, collaborated on any professional project, engaged in no landmark signature legislation, or made any tangible, substantial contribution of any nature to his professions as a lawyer or politician.

The only tangible works Barack Obama produced in his life are 2 fictionalized books about himself, glorifying his search for identity and his alcoholic, polygamous, already-married Kenyan father who was a failed Muslim communist (huh?) who knocked up his then-17-year-old mother and then abandoned them.

Lately, Obama has been trying to claim his "experience" "running" a campaign stacks up against Sarah Palin's experience as elected Governor of Alaska! Running for president is the experience needed to be president! That's almost as self-referential as "we are the ones we've been waiting for"!

And I was so shocked to discover that Obama uses a whole team of speechwriters! Giving great speeches is the only professional leadership talent he has true claim to! I thought he was writing his own speeches this whole time.

NY Times Feature Article on Obama's Head Speechwriter
By Ashley Parker, The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"Facts don't matter- McCain campaign. Just cry like a baby about lipstick and a-holes like the fundies on this board will come running. Kinda like a dog whistle, only the dogs are smarter. You disgust me repubs.

Posted by: md83 | September 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama is lipstick on the pig of typical liberal ideas. His fake outrage on the lipstick outrage is just more of his attempts to have it both ways.

http://blog.topicaltopics.net/2008/09/stupid-ignorant-liars/

Posted by: Andy | September 10, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

uh-oh, today's the anniversary of 9-11.

Which party do you thing will be the most craven in their exploitation of it, and scream the loudest about the other side's doing it?

It's that day here in Europe. I'll bet from over here I won't be able to tell the difference.

Both parties are being run by the worst PT Barnum scum we can raise in our culture. The politicians who want to run have to sell their soul to these people to get elected.

It seems that we don't really care if our own side does it, as long as it does it better than the other side.

Boy, are we getting screwed, and with no reacharound either.

Posted by: expat | September 10, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

>>"Even small amounts, raised via Internet, add up. Yeah. Just ask Barack Obama."

LOL. The $10 million that Obama made in the week after his speech just went to pay for that $6 million stage, plus the costs of the other production for that night.

He's lavishly & obscenely squandering the money from all those "janitors, teachers, students" he claims are saving up their money to send to him, with his over-the-top spending on his narcissistic excesses. Your money.

How does it feel to be such a sucker?

PLEASE SUPPORT PALIN'S DEFENSE AGAINST THEIR ATTACKS

Because McCain is accepting federal funds for the rest of the election season, to give new money, you have to donate to the RNC.

https://secure.gop.com/donate

Please donate to Palin's candidacy if you are offended by the democrats' attacks on her. The donations will support the ads & other resources she needs to defend herself.

Even small amounts, raised via Internet, add up.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Dan you are the biggest fraud alive. So basically, it's BOTH of their faults. What is f88king wrong with you? Are you that naive or are you a paid McCain campaign hack? What has the Obama campaign done that's dirty or slimey? It's ONLY the dirty rotten despicable creatures in the MCcain campaign. And what's up with your idiotic comment that you'd love to hear from McCain and Palin? Are you trying to say they didn't approve it? God help us with reporters and hacks like you who always seem to put the blame back at the Obama campaign. There should be a very dark and hot place in hell reserved for creatures like Steve Schmidt.

Posted by: David | September 10, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

ONCE AGAIN IN AMERICA LIKABILITY TRUMPS INTELLIGENCE.
ONCE AGAIN IN AMERICA RACE TRUMPS ISSUES
ONCE AGAIN IN AMERICA WAR TRUMPS PEACE
ONCE AGAIN IN AMERICA PROPAGANDA TRUMPS FACT
ONCE AGAIN IN AMERICA THE WORLD LOOKS AT US LIKE "ARE THE GOING TO DO THAT TO US AGAIN"

Posted by: We need this | September 10, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Both candidates stink. It's pathetic the USA gets to choose between the lesser of two evils. I guess McCain is that. Barrack Hussein Obama is a socialist who thinks Goverment is the soloution to all problems. Government is the problem. No more bailouts of the Banks, Auto Industry, Farm Industry and the do nothing Beltway Bandits and eliminate 50% of all do nothing bureaucrats which means 50% of all non-Military workers.

Posted by: dossier | September 10, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

For the record (and anyone who has read my posts for a while knows), I don't want a theocracy. It's not a "theocracy" when we punish REAL murder, is it?

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

"But in a 24/7, constant news cycle environment, there is no way for most people to keep up as the charges and countercharges fly back and forth. What sticks is the reinforcement of the partisan prisms through which more voters now see the election."

The problem isn't the 24/7 constant news cycle. It's the trash that once respectable news organizations now peddle as news rather than peddling actual news.

I share your concern about the detrimental effect of hyper-partisanship on the Democratic process. I don't, however, happen to work down the hall from the editor of the Washington Post. Could you do us all a favor and knock on the door and ask who was smoking what when the decision was made to print the Pig in Lipstick non-story?

Posted by: gpg | September 10, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Dear white women:
When your vote is based on identity politics, you take an enormous gamble. Vote on issues, not gender. Palin is a trophy, which is offensive in the deepest way.
Signed, a white woman

Posted by: oline | September 10, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm Scott

I quote Human Events because I'm proud that we dump embryos in the trash but we're willing to go after scientists for cures.

Scientists are evil.

Christians are good

Scientific Christians are like house slaves. Good and if they speak up, we'll beat them.

Love,
Scott

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Anti-science
Pro military
Pro creationism
Pro Christianity
Anti-art
Anti-culture

hello redneck world... Yeee hawwwww

I'm ready for my all white theocracy!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

How uppity can this guy get?

Posted by: Cakewalk | September 10, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Remember Issues People?

Two Embarrasingly indefensible Obama Issues-

1. Corn Ethanol
-leads to global warming using one unit of petroleum for every unit replaced
-raises food prices
-7x less efficient than sugar cane ethanol (which McCain favors)
(BUT great for Illinois farmers!)

2. Infant Protection Act

-Opposes medical attention for infants who survive LEGAL abortions, not making them illegal
-Obama lied about wording of the Illinois law, later admitting that it was the same wording as in the federal bill
**********
Obama- shows no shame in pandering to farmers and more radical than abortion advocates.

Comments Obama More Pro-Choice Than NARAL

HumanEvents.com

12/26/2006
Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) portrays himself as a thoughtful Democrat who carefully considers both sides of controversial issues, but his radical stance on abortion puts him further left on that issue than even NARAL Pro-Choice America.

In 2002, as an Illinois legislator, Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act, which would have protected babies that survived late-term abortions. That same year a similar federal law, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, was signed by President Bush. Only 15 members of the U.S. House opposed it, and it passed the Senate unanimously on a voice vote.

Both the Illinois and the federal bill sought equal treatment for babies who survived premature inducement for the purpose of abortion and wanted babies who were born prematurely and given live-saving medical attention.

When the federal bill was being debated, NARAL Pro-Choice America released a statement that said, “Consistent with our position last year, NARAL does not oppose passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act ... floor debate served to clarify the bill’s intent and assure us that it is not targeted at Roe v. Wade or a woman’s right to choose.”

But Obama voted against this bill in the Illinois senate and killed it in committee. Twice, the Induced Infant Liability Act came up in the Judiciary Committee on which he served. At its first reading he voted “present.” At the second he voted “no.”

The bill was then referred to the senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired after the Illinois Senate went Democratic in 2003. As chairman, he never called the bill up for a vote.

Jill Stanek, a registered delivery-ward nurse who was the prime mover behind the legislation after she witnessed aborted babies’ being born alive and left to die, testified twice before Obama in support of the Induced Infant Liability Act bills. She also testified before the U.S. Congress in support of the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

Stanek told me her testimony “did not faze” Obama.

In the second hearing, Stanek said, “I brought pictures in and presented them to the committee of very premature babies from my neonatal resuscitation book from the American Pediatric Association, trying to show them unwanted babies were being cast aside. Babies the same age were being treated if they were wanted!”

“And those pictures didn’t faze him [Obama] at all,” she said.

At the end of the hearing, according to the official records of the Illinois State senate, Obama thanked Stanek for being “very clear and forthright,” but said his concern was that Stanek had suggested “doctors really don’t care about children who are being born with a reasonable prospect of life because they are so locked into their pro-abortion views that they would watch an infant that is viable die.” He told her, “That may be your assessment, and I don’t see any evidence of that. What we are doing here is to create one more burden on a woman and I can’t support that.”

Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Barrack can still win! If Hillary's supporters can forgive and forget Barrack collective giving Her and them the finger and if Bitter Whites that cling to Guns, Religion, Love of American and believe in our Constitution against Invasion and the rule of Law can be convinced by Barrack that the largest invasion in world history, of any country, at any time, by any means and that is taking their jobs and lowering their standard of living while killing, robbing and raping American citizens by the 10,s of thousands every year and is slowly but surely changing American into an Spanish speaking third world cesspool of Crime, Corruption, Poverty and Misery, modeled on Mexico, is a good thing for them and American.

He may even start losing losing black votes since they are the ones paying the greatest price for his pandering for Hispanic votes to fuel his political ambitions and lust for power!

Blacks are starting to realize that Barracks open Borders and Amnesty for the Invading horde will completely disfranchise and destroy the political gains, civil rights & progress made by Black Americans and empower the Racist Hispanics.

He needs to explain why he and most Democrats Believe that Article IV Section IV of our Constitution against Invasion, enforcement of our Immigration Laws and their Oath of office are all null and void!

He needs to convince voters that his election will not start an wealth transfer from the USA tax payers to Africa in accordance with his Black Liberations teaching by his friend and Mentor the Rev. Weight!

He needs to future explain why he thinks Babies born alive should be denied medical care and left to suffer until they die! Why he considers the way to correct unwanted babies by engaging in sexual promiscuity is just to kill the baby as he stated he would do if his daughter got pregnant out of wedlock !
He will need to convince them that attending the church of hate, supporting and listening to Hate American, Hate Whites and hate everything but Blacks and Muslims for 20 years while hanging out with criminals, terrorist and racist is no big deal and no harm intended!

Posted by: Black Saint J | September 10, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

>> abqcleve wrote: "Colleagues, Just a word of advice. I don't think that's the real aspergirl you've been reading here. This format in the WaPo forumn unfortunately allows anyone to spoof."

Some of the stuff is mine, a lot of it is people posting using my name.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't it Obama who said "words matter"?

How can we put a man in the White House who has the trash-talking manners of an insensitive ghetto woman-basher?

So if Obama thinks that McCain putting Palin on his ticket is putting "lipstick on a pig" & it smells "like an old fish", do we want that kind of clueless, low-class jackass handling state dinners & summit meetings?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Crocket

The DNC is a gift that just keeps on giving. A gym full of strategists could come up with this stuff.

Remember Barney Fife and how he shot himself in the foot all the time? If Obama keeps shooting himself in the foot; we should take his bullets (pun intended) away.

Posted by: Clinging to my religion | September 10, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Just in case there was ever any doubt AsperGirl wasn't a stooge from the RNC:

"Even small amounts, raised via Internet, add up."
Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:16 PM

Yeah. Just ask Barack Obama.

Posted by: AsperGirl's Fundraising Thread | September 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

It is fake journalists like No-Balz who focus "news" and "analysis" on talking point memos -- who will ever forget the great No-Balz moment when he, not even getting off his arse, gave us that BS "story" about how McCain vetted Nut-Job Palin so well, even having the FBI vet her. Of course, as the FBI said the next day THEY NEVER VET candidates. No=Balz should have been fired for that. The fact is that the new media is putting the Post to shame by actually doing real journalism the Post used to do. We still have yet to see a front-page story on McCain's father-in-law's ties to organized crime. Why not? Storeis have been published in Arizona. Why can't the rest of America hear that he got rich and worked for the mob? That his son looted the taxpayers in an S&L like scandal in Nevada? The Post contributes to the rancor by not publishing facts but by publishing labels -- McGoo the hero -- and repeating Swift-boat lies and BS attacks. When you do real journalism again maybe the people will not be so angry that guys like McCain are not revealed for what they are because the CM is too busy on the swing.
And now in real news: Drill Her, Drill Now! The new McGoo slogan!
Gov't officials probed about illicit sex, gifts By DINA CAPPIELLO, Associated Press Writer

Government officials handling billions of dollars in oil royalties partied, had sex with and accepted golf and ski outings from employees of energy companies they were dealing with, federal investigators said Wednesday.

The alleged transgressions involve 13 former and current Interior Department employees in Denver and Washington. Their alleged improprieties include rigging contracts, working part-time as private oil consultants, and having sexual relationships with — and accepting golf and ski trips and dinners from — oil company employees, according to three reports released Wednesday by the Interior Department's inspector general.

The investigations reveal a "culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" by a small group of individuals "wholly lacking in acceptance of or adherence to government ethical standards," wrote Inspector General Earl E. Devaney, whose office spent more than two years and $5.3 million on the investigation.

"Sexual relationships with prohibited sources cannot, by definition, be arms-length," Devaney said.

The reports describe a fraternity house atmosphere inside the Denver Minerals Management Service office responsible for marketing oil and natural gas that energy companies barter to the government in lieu of cash royalty payments for drilling on federal lands. The government received $4.3 billion in such royalty-in-kind payments last year. The oil and gas is then resold to energy companies or put in the nation's emergency stockpile.

Posted by: McSleaze | September 10, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Colleagues,

Just a word of advice. I don't think that's the real aspergirl you've been reading here. This format in the WaPo forumn unfortunately allows anyone to spoof. The real aspergirl has been going downhill since the primaries, but usually still manages to write in complete, well-formed sentences. This stuff reads like a teenaged homunculous.

Posted by: abqcleve | September 10, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

THE MEDIA THINKS IT'S COOL TO PICK AT PALIN'S RELIGION

OBAMA BLOOPERS IN WHCH HE TALKS LIKE A MUSLIM

Obama is known for always speaking very carefully & precisely (it's his gift). Except when he's talking about his religion or when he's making "Muslim bloopers".

:: BARACK OBAMA: "MY MUSLIM FAITH" ::

In an interview of Obama on September 7, George Stephanopolous asked Obama about his accusations that the McCain campaign are going to accuse him of being Muslim. Obama goes into a 2 minute answer that includes the blooper "my Muslim faith".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYHFlGb2Ng&feature=iv

At minute 1:34 Stephanopolous asks Obama about why he makes accusations that the McCain campaign is going to accuse him of being Muslim, when the McCain has condemned people making those accusations.

At minute 2:49 Obama says: "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith."

George Stephanopolous steps in and corrects him to say "Christian faith" and then Obama agrees and says "Christian faith". But then what Obama was going to say doesn't make sense anymore because that would be, "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Christian faith."

Obama then has to spend the next 15 seconds regrouping to make a point ("John McCain has not suggested I was a Muslim.")

:: OBAMA THINKS THE U.S. HAS "57 STATES" ::

You can watch Obama's statement that he's visited "57 states".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

This is no joke, he really said this. This was no "slip", he pauses & thinks about it!

What American would forget that? And why would he pick the number "57" out of the air?

Everyone knows that we have 50 states. But there is a union that has 57 states in it: the nation of Islam. The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. It has 57 Islamic member states, from the Middle East, Africa, Central Asia, Caucasus, Balkan, Southeast Asia, South Asia and South America.

This is kind of an important slip coming from a candidate who is African-Arab by racial heritage, Muslim by birth who claims to now be Christian, who was raised abroad in an Islamic state (Indonesia) with a Muslim stepfather, who traveled to Pakistan using his Indonesian-citizenship passport at age 20 when he was supposed to be a U.S. citizen and Americans weren't supposed to go to Pakistan, who belonged for 20 years to a Church that publishes pro-Hamas material and whose leadership has close ties to the Nation of Islam, and who has been endorsed by Hamas.

:: TOO-LONG, BABBLE-ANSWER ON THE QUESTION WHAT IS THE MEANING OF JESUS IN HIS LIFE ::

You can also watch Barack Obama's too-long, wandering, lame response to the question: what is the meaning of Jesus in his life. He starts kind of okay with a trite answer, but then gets lost and stops making sense until he ends up claiming that Jesus makes him try new things like running for President after Rev. Warren starts making noises that signal to Obama he needs to cut it off.

http://www.youtube.com/v/gHtAWPjzvyk&rel=0&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&fs=1

Afterward, Obama declares that was a tough question, whereon Rev. Warren says, "Oh no, that was a freebie, a gimme."

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

It looks as if Mr. Obama is working from the same play book they used on Hillary. I think women should be deeply offended by these remarks. God forbid you make a comment about the size of Obama's ears or the color of his lips - that's when they scream racism.

Posted by: Suzy | September 10, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

Now we have Carol Fowler of the DNC saying Sarah's only qualification is she hasn't had an abortion???????????

Wow are the Democrats in had shape!!

Posted by: Jeff Crocket | September 10, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I was so angry that I went to the RNC & gave money to support Palin's candidacy.

Because McCain is accepting federal funds for the rest of the election season, to give new money, you have to donate to the RNC.

https://secure.gop.com/donate

Please donate to Palin's candidacy if you are offended by the democrats' attacks on her. The donations will support the ads & other resources she needs to defend herself.

Even small amounts, raised via Internet, add up.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

its nutz!!!!!!!!

Posted by: yona loriner | September 10, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Washington Post,

You are one of the biggest drivers of partisanship in campaigns each year. Why don't you give us an article with a review of your coverage of either candidate? Why don't you tell us the truth about who your managers have clearly demonstrated want to win? When are you going to start doing some real, genuine investigative journalism into the TRUTH? STOP WASTING PAPER/TREES WITH SO MANY USELESS, BIASED EDITORIALS!!

Posted by: Dave | September 10, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Racism is alive and well. Simply look at the vile comments on this board by the fanatical right wingers and you'll understand why this election is so close. These people care not one whit about issues, about who will make a better president, about who can restore our great country. They care only about spewing their nasty racist bile.

You read this and understand how the holocaust could happen. Substitute in Jews for Barack Obama and his wife and marvel at the deep level of racial hatred.

God help us.

Posted by: Monk | September 10, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

It is really sad what I've been witnessing for several days. It has literally become a war between democrats vs republicans. I have seen Christians behaving in a very non-christian embarrassing ways...ask yourselves will God approve of your behaviors? To everyone else, you too should be ashamed of your behaviors too, on this site and others on the internet news sites.

I am a democrat and I believe from my heart that Obama can do some good for our country. But right here..right now...both republicans and democrats...old and young viewer...black, white, indian, asian....conservatives and democrats...THIS IS GOING TOO FAR! We don't have to worry about another country attacking us...we are doing a good enough job ourselves! This isn't right....what has happened to our country, our pride, and our respect to each other.

Today...I am boycotting the web news and I challenge everyone here to "GET YOUR LIVES BACK...WALK AWAY FROM THE COMPUTERS! None of our candidates can even breath without someone thinking something is wrong...this is crazy...on all sides. Get up...go throw a ball with your kid, go to a movie with a friend, do something that breaks this crazy insanity.

Posted by: kd oklahoma | September 10, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Remember when Senator McCain said he would run an honorable, issue-driven campaign? That was short lived. All we get are lies, distortions, and garbage attacks on Obama's celebrity. senator Obama clearly would rather debate the issues on their merit while McCain, knowing he would lose such a debate, would rather run a campaign of slime. Senator McCain has shown himself to be a dishonorable man who would rather divide the country in order to rule than run a campaign on the merits of the issues. Senator McCain is clearly a McCain First/Country Last kind of man.

Posted by: reality-based educator | September 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Uh no......you err, Mr. Balz, in equating the campaign tactics of the two candidates. Given the obvious pro-Republican bias of your writings, I won't bother explaining the difference to you.

Posted by: bam | September 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

"South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate "whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion."

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM

McCain, life long womanizer and serial adulterer, was undoubtedly impressed by the fact that Palin is a babe -- a trophy VP to go along with his (second) trophy wife.

Abortion had nothing to do with it.

Aspergirl, you just don't understand men.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Good for you, goldie & jAKE!
You are absolutely right.
Obama was right on target with the issues.
And he's sticking to his talking points, lifting the dialogue.
But the McCain campaign can't afford to openly discuss the issues.
They are in bed with the neo-cons, the no-bid corrupt contractors and the rest of the money boyz who have their hands in our till in Washington.
Obama owes no apologies to anyone.
Instead, he deserves a medal for being willing to place himself on square one as the target of the remarkably repulsive and disgusting McCain/Bush campaign machine.
This campaign is about US -- our lives, our future, our country.
McCain/Palin haven't got a clue as to what that means, despite flourishing the flag & wrapping themselves in it.
Real people care about jobs, healthcare, our misdirected and suffering military, the Bush deficits and the national debt.
Obama knows how to cure the McCain/Palin polarizing disease.
Chris Matthews nailed it today.
Dan Balz needs to demand focus on the issues, as well, and quit carrying buckets for McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Judy-in-TX | September 10, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll be Bristol Palin wishes her mother allowed abortions.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

LOL!

Barry Hussein (aka Senator Purple Lips) let it slip about his "Muslim faith".


OBAMA: No, uh, well, uh, well, look, the -- the, uhhhh. Listen, uhhh, you and I both know that the minute that Governor Palin was, uh -- was, uh, forced to talk about her daughter, I immediately said, "That's off-limits. And -- and -- and -- and --

STEPHANOPOULOS: John McCain did the same thing about questioning your faith.

OBAMA: And what -- what was the first thing the McCain campaign went out and did? They -- they said, uhhh, look, uhhh, his liberal blogs that support Obama (nervous laugh) are out there attacking Governor Palin. I mea- ih, uh, uh, eh, L-l-let's not play games. W-w-what I was suggesting, you are absolutely right that John McCain has not, uh, talked about my Muslim faith, and you're absolutely right that that has not come --

STEPHANOPOULOS: Christian faith.

OBAMA: Uh, M-my Christian faith.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

the difference between osama and obama is just a little BS LOL kiddin i dont think hes that bad!

Posted by: yona loriner | September 10, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

What I found most offensive in Obama's remarks was the reference to how an old fish stinks.

I mean, how did he get a whiff of my hoo-hah?

Posted by: Diane72 | September 10, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

its great u gotto luv it

Posted by: yona y loriner | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

S.C. Dem chair: Palin primary qualification is she hasn't had an abortion
by Jonathan Martin

"South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate "whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/SC_Dem_chair_Palin_primary_qualification_is_she_hasnt_had_an_abortion_.html?showall

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

The undeniable truth is that the majority of Americans are not very bright. If you have a few qualities that appeal to them they are likely to believe whatever nonsense you spew.

I don't see how someone could win the presidency anymore without getting into the mud and surviving a war of attrition.

We get what we deserve.

Posted by: TK | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah with drop a bomb in the wink of an eye

BOMB BOMB BOMB .. BOM BOM Iran

Give her credit ... she will pray first

Posted by: The Republic | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah with drop a bomb in the wink of an eye

BOMB BOMB BOMB .. BOM BOM Iran

Give her credit ... she will pray first

Posted by: The Republic | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Sarah with drop a bomb in the wink of an eye

BOMB BOMB BOMB .. BOM BOM Iran

Give her credit ... she will pray first

Posted by: The Republic | September 10, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Today, Republican women took to the house floor to decry Obama "pig" remarks.

Analyst says that this is the kind of thing that can sink an election on account of the disgust it engenders.

Obama's campaign is on its last legs.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow sir, you tried your very hardest to be objective, while still managing to lay most of the blame on the McCain-Palin team.

I was very disappointed by your very well written article. You had a real chance to show how both sides are playing "politics as usual".

Speaking of surrogates, no where in your article did you mention the fact that an Obama supporter and bonafide democratic leader in South Carolina basically said that Palin's strongest credential is the fact that "she's never had an abortion." Talk about shameful. If you're going to lay blame at McCain's feet, how about next time you try to be a fair journalist and also report the other side of the story.

Check out this article by Michelle Malkin. It clearly and briefly shows the media bias against the Palin ticket:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2IxNmNkOGZkMGQ5NzViMjEyMjdhYzE2YjEzOGNlYmY=

If the roles were reversed, and the McCain camp had made lipstick remarks about the Obama campaign, the media would be crying foul all day long.

Posted by: c.c. | September 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Even if Obama meant to use the lipstick joke, it was probably meant to show that he too could use a joke that involves lipstick. I seriously doubt that it was his intention to call her a pig. That is something that Swift read into in order to further her own career in the campaign. Schmidt may still dream of having an affair with Palin but he hopes that his efforts in twisting a colloquialism into a personal atack will earn him some boobie time.

How's that for twisting words?

Can we get back to the issues please?

Tax policy, foreign affairs, health care, rebuilding the middle class?

Mother of God!

Posted by: steeleswitters | September 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow sir, you tried your very hardest to be objective, while still managing to lay most of the blame on the McCain-Palin team.

I was very disappointed by your very well written article. You had a real chance to show how both sides are playing "politics as usual".

Speaking of surrogates, no where in your article did you mention the fact that an Obama supporter and bonafide democratic leader in South Carolina basically said that Palin's strongest credential is the fact that "she's never had an abortion." Talk about shameful. If you're going to lay blame at McCain's feet, how about next time you try to be a fair journalist and also report the other side of the story.

Check out this article by Michelle Malkin. It clearly and briefly shows the media bias against the Palin ticket:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2IxNmNkOGZkMGQ5NzViMjEyMjdhYzE2YjEzOGNlYmY=

If the roles were reversed, and the McCain camp had made lipstick remarks about the Obama campaign, the media would be crying foul all day long.

Posted by: C.C. | September 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Wow sir, you tried your very hardest to be objective, while still managing to lay most of the blame on the McCain-Palin team.

I was very disappointed by your very well written article. You had a real chance to show how both sides are playing "politics as usual".

Speaking of surrogates, no where in your article did you mention the fact that an Obama supporter and bonafide democratic leader in South Carolina basically said that Palin's strongest credential is the fact that "she's never had an abortion." Talk about shameful. If you're going to lay blame at McCain's feet, how about next time you try to be a fair journalist and also report the other side of the story.

Check out this article by Michelle Malkin. It clearly and briefly shows the media bias against the Palin ticket:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2IxNmNkOGZkMGQ5NzViMjEyMjdhYzE2YjEzOGNlYmY=

If the roles were reversed, and the McCain camp had made lipstick remarks about the Obama campaign, the media would be crying foul all day long.

Posted by: C.C. | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Uh no. You err in equating the tactics of the two candidates, Mr. Balz. But your articles routinely reflect a pro-Republican bias so I won't bother explaining the difference to you.

Posted by: bam | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

So they're both guilty, but you don't cite anything from Obama's side other than the press and blog frenzy that followed the announcement of an unknown as VP. Sorry it's so hard for you in the press to keep up, but it'd be a good start by calling a lie a lie.

Posted by: dabberc | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

VP Harry Truman who succeeded FDR as president, had to make the decision to drop the atomic bomb. Sarah Palin is no Harry Truman. This is not putting country first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlJu2IGf01I

Posted by: khaled | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Post subject: New Democratic strategy alert!
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:56 pm
New Dem strategy Alert! Not Palin who's doing all the damage, it's Karl Rove. Sarah Palin was killing them by being Sarah Palin, so they've decided to turn the focus on an old white guy. They better hope he's not up to the task. Maybe he even manipulated the strings and made them do it.

Maybe Karl Rove should be Prez. According to the Dems and lib bloggers, He seems to have things well in hand. We could use a little of that. I just hope that Putin and the rest of those who hate America are a shade dumber than Karl Rove, because they would sure make a jackass out of Obama in a hurry if the were as smart as Karl.

Fact is I think he did it to himself. Maybe there's a new strain of the Arkansas flue. Any word on that?

Posted by: Clinging to my religion | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I wish I was Obama's mommy. Boy would I spank his bad boy butt! Then I would roll him over and hop on that big black poll! Oh you bad bad Barry!!!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Post subject: New Democratic strategy alert!
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:56 pm
New Dem strategy Alert! Not Palin who's doing all the damage, it's Karl Rove. Sarah Palin was killing them by being Sarah Palin, so they've decided to turn the focus on an old white guy. They better hope he's not up to the task. Maybe he even manipulated the strings and made them do it.

Maybe Karl Rove should be Prez. According to the Dems and lib bloggers, He seems to have things well in hand. We could use a little of that. I just hope that Putin and the rest of those who hate America are a shade dumber than Karl Rove, because they would sure make a jackass out of Obama in a hurry if the were as smart as Karl.

Fact is I think he did it to himself. Maybe there's a new strain of the Arkansas flue. Any word on that?

Posted by: Clinging to my religion | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

I wish I was Obama's mommy. Boy would I spank his bad boy butt! Then I would roll him over and hop on that big black poll! Oh you bad bad Barry!!! THATS the kind of poll-arization I need.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Uh no. You err in equating the tactics of the two candidates, Mr. Balz. But your articles routinely reflect a pro-Republican bias so I won't bother explaining the difference to you.

Posted by: bam | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Hillary: "Media sexism?"

Well, she said she wouldn't attack Sarah Palin.

Hillary Clinton, played it cool when pelted with questions asked about Sarah Palin on Capitol Hill today -- deflecting her attacks to John McCain (as she promised to do) on his opposition to equal pay legislation.

And she didn't seem terribly upset when asked about Jonathan Martin's revelation that one of her best friends, a top fundraiser, had started a group to fight gender bias against Palin.

"Oh you're kidding?" she joked, feigning surprise. "Media sexism?"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0908/Hillary_Media_sexism.html

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

lol@AsperGirl

Posted by: yona loriner | September 10, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

WaPo Pics of Obama

Not that great. None of Michelle. Poor pics of crowd. Title and lead language negative.

WaPo Pics of McCain

All great. Only two without Sarah. Include Todd and Cindy.
Even a picture of a Palin Baby Bottle.

Please, a little more subtlety.

Folks, there is no sense in fighting here. This is a GOP paper.

How sad for the nation.

Goodbye.
Voice of Reason

Posted by: there is no anonymous anymore | September 10, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

There's the adage "if it bleeds, it leads." This is also applicable to the coverage of the election coverage: i.e. why has the coverage focused overwhelmingly on mud-slinging? It's the easiest, and most interesting thing to report. If there was a way to report on the field strategy, I doubt people would find it nearly as exciting as the mudslinging.

Palins can knock organizing all she wants. As Obama's organization gets stronger behind the scenes--very little has been reported about it--McCain-Palin's going to be in for a surprise come November.

OBAMA-BIDEN 08

Posted by: Louis | September 10, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

John McCain told me that as long as he has a face, I'll always have a place to sit.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Rightwing-extremist Republicans are a little bit funny. Both John McMansions and Freddy Thompson referred to "lipstick on a pig." Yet now McBush and Quaylin are whining like pansies because a black man used the phrase? That's a double standard. And Palin should stop hiding from the media. Is she afraid that everyone will see how much of a radical wingnut fundie she is? That's a no-brainer.

Posted by: Dr. Don Key | September 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

"A few speeches and some good intentions will not erase all this."

Let's take back control of this situation by asserting our own initiative. I propose the following steps to sanity.

Republicans: "We love our country. So do non-Republicans. We survived Carter. We survived Clinton. The republic still endures." Democrats, your turn: "We love our country. So do non-Democrats. We survived Reagan. We survived Bush I. We have survived Bush II. The republic still endures."

Now, all together: "Even if my candidate wins, I will not get everything I want and will, to some measure, be disappointed. Even if their candidate wins, once in a while out of the blue he'll surprise me and do the right thing, which I should welcome for its own sake. No matter what happens, on November 5th I will neither wake up in Eden or in the flames of Hell.

"I believe my candidate is a good person - a flawed, but good person - who is bravely stepping up to do the toughest damn job in the world and be blamed for everything from anthrax to zits. My candidate is not a messiah; their candidate is not a devil. Most importantly, the job their applying for isn't to win an election. It's to run a country. I won't feel good about someone who lies, distorts and forgets how to be civil in order to get the job, because that's probably how he's going to do the job. No matter who wins, this country deserves better than that.

"We want someone who'll get things done. We manage to do that where we work, worship, teach and raise our children. There are conflicts, but rarely the quasi-murderous hatred that's become standard fare in our politics. We can't run a business like this - how can we run a country like this.

"So today, I will listen to you. I will respect you. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you will do the same. I will pressure my candidate to also behave respectfully; I will not be goaded to hate or seduced to love. It isn't sexy. It doesn't make good fodder for chatter TV. But this isn't a reality show, with its twisted distortions of personality. This is life, and we need to be as serious as life is. It's time to grow up. It's time to be the same people in our politics that we are in the rest of our lives.

"We are Democrats. We are Republicans. We are Americans. We are not tools."

Posted by: treetopflyer | September 10, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I almost forgot! The most important issue in this election is balls. Wh has bigger balls?

Find out here:

http://odeo.com/episodes/22455376-John-McCain-s-Balls-Exactly-How-Huge-Are-They

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Even More Obama Lies from FactCheck.org

- Obama said he could “pay for every dime” of his spending and tax cut proposals “by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens.” That’s wrong – his proposed tax increases on upper-income individuals are key components of paying for his program, as well. And his plan, like McCain’s, would leave the U.S. facing big budget deficits, according to independent experts.

- He twisted McCain’s words about Afghanistan, saying, “When John McCain said we could just 'muddle through' in Afghanistan, I argued for more resources.” Actually, McCain said in 2003 we “may” muddle through, and he recently also called for more troops there.

- He said McCain would fail to lower taxes for 100 million Americans while his own plan would cut taxes for 95 percent of “working” families. But an independent analysis puts the number who would see no benefit from McCain’s plan at 66 million and finds that Obama’s plan would benefit 81 percent of all households when retirees and those without children are figured in.

- Obama asked why McCain would "define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year"? Actually, McCain meant that comment as a joke, getting a laugh and following up by saying, "But seriously ..."

- Obama noted that McCain’s health care plan would "tax people’s benefits" but didn’t say that it also would provide up to a $5,000 tax credit for families.

- He said McCain, far from being a maverick who’s "broken with his party," has voted to support Bush policies 90 percent of the time. True enough, but by the same measure Obama has voted with fellow Democrats in the Senate 97 percent of the time.

- Obama said "average family income" went down $2,000 under Bush, which isn't correct. An aide said he was really talking only about "working" families and not retired couples. And – math teachers, please note – he meant median (or midpoint) and not really the mean or average. Median family income actually has inched up slightly under Bush.

Posted by: Ruth A | September 10, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

WHY DIDN'T OBAMA JUST PICK HILLARY? WAS IT THE 
NARCISSISM OR A MOMMY PROBLEM? (MAYBE BOTH?)
A LOOK AT OBAMA'S MOMMA'S PERSONAL PROBLEMS

Obama's momma seems to have had at least some traits of a dependent personality disorder, which tends to be a complementary, coincident problem in families in which narcissism occurs.

In the Muslim world, there is a thing such as "temporary marriages". Men can even take "temporary" wives when they already have wives and families. This activity is legal under Sharia law, and the woman aren't respected but they aren't punished. The men usually pay them and the women are usually poor but pretty and have no prospects in life.

For an American woman to serve as a "temporary wife" and "second wife" to Third World Muslim men, who don't even give her money and support, but just use the brief marriage without any traditional settlement for her, was the cultural equivalent of her being a valueless, unclean woman. I.e., in a cultural sense, Obama's momma served her Third World Muslim men as an unrespectable pump-and-dump without value. The fact that a couple of these Muslim pump-and-dumps comprises Obama's mother's adult married life, is dysfunctional. Obama's mother was, in my opinion as a woman, a sexually desperate loser. But what does that imply for a kid raised in a Muslim culture for at least part of his childhood, and how he relates to a mother who would have been executed for her behavior if she were not American?

I think that Obama both lacks respect for the white "culture" of his childhood and longs for identity as a man, because of his mother's codependent and powerless relationships with her Muslim men. I think that Obama probably has mommy issues with older white women having power or influence over him, or dependence on him.

It's unsurprising Obama has sought to find a culture and identity in a harsh, black radical Church that cauterizes and rejects corrupt white culture. I think that his finding his identity in that Trinity Church is real, not pretense, just as I don't think it was extraordinarily difficult for him to take the step to repudiate the father figure that Rev. Wright has become in his life.

To be more specific, the narrative of Obama's father in his autobiographies is romanticized and fictionionalized. Obama's mother wasn't taken advantage of by some black man who left her with a child, but she was complicit in a degrading second-wife marriage and was a serial temporary wife to two Third World Muslim men, had kids and were dumped by them. Obama's father was her first such codependent relationship, her first "temporary [Muslim] husband". Instead of how Obama portrayed him, his father was an alcoholic, polygamous, womanizing Kenyan ethnically Arab Muslim (failed) communist who was already married when he got Obama's then-17-year-old mother pregnant. Obama's mother wasn't underprivileged and he wasn't disadvantaged but went to private schools when his grandmother took over his care after his mother sent him back from Indonesia when her second husband, his stepfather, was uninterested in him.

Barack Obama clearly has middle-age white woman problems. His refusal to even consider Hillary Clinton as his VP when it was his most obvious and possibly his only real path to winning the election, speaks of some kind self-defeating, self-sabotaging personal issue.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey! I didn't write this! Some one is using my name! I have a cloth chair anyway, it's not slippery. But if I sit here long enough I dry to it.


Therapy? Pee on you! I don't need no therapee. I just can't stand the thought of a black neeger telling us what to do! The heirarchy is 1. white man, 2. white woman, 3. black man. Now if you can't see that then you must be 4. black woman! Stupid idiot dumb democrats who can't smell the puzzy for the mustache under your stupid big neeger noses! I hate you and I hate your mother. All this hate is making me wet and I'm slipping out of my chair!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

LOL!

Barry Hussein (aka Senator Purple Lips) let it slip about his "Muslim faith".


OBAMA: No, uh, well, uh, well, look, the -- the, uhhhh. Listen, uhhh, you and I both know that the minute that Governor Palin was, uh -- was, uh, forced to talk about her daughter, I immediately said, "That's off-limits. And -- and -- and -- and --

STEPHANOPOULOS: John McCain did the same thing about questioning your faith.

OBAMA: And what -- what was the first thing the McCain campaign went out and did? They -- they said, uhhh, look, uhhh, his liberal blogs that support Obama (nervous laugh) are out there attacking Governor Palin. I mea- ih, uh, uh, eh, L-l-let's not play games. W-w-what I was suggesting, you are absolutely right that John McCain has not, uh, talked about my Muslim faith, and you're absolutely right that that has not come --

STEPHANOPOULOS: Christian faith.

OBAMA: Uh, M-my Christian faith.

Posted by: Nadeem Zakaria | September 10, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I pity de fool who writes FOOL in upper case.
I mean you, AssperGirl.

Posted by: Mr T | September 10, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Therapy? Pee on you! I don't need no therapee. I just can't stand the thought of a black neeger telling us what to do! The heirarchy is 1. white man, 2. white woman, 3. black man. Now if you can't see that then you must be 4. black woman! Stupid idiot dumb democrats who can't smell the puzzy for the mustache under your stupid big neeger noses! I hate you and I hate your mother. All this hate is making me wet and I'm slipping out of my chair!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Dear Barack Obama:

You're making some real strides with your new go-after-McCain-and-Palin personally strategy.

You've gone from having a somewhat thin but coherent story of being an inspirational hope post-racial candidate to being an angry, critical black man attacking a popular middle-aged white woman's sexuality and person for political gain.

Great strategy, FOOL.

WHY DON'T YOU PUT LIPSTICK ON BIDEN & PRETEND HE'S ANYTHING BUT BAGGAGE?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

There is no reason to be even-handed in this analysis. Obama has consistently brought the national conversation back to the great issues of our day: the staggering economy, job losses, educational reform, the war in Iraq, our loss of international prestige.

Because they fear debating the issues, the McCain campaign has tried to distract the voters with absurd and vicious lies.

So now we have the insane antics of the GOP attemting with fake umbrage to claim that somehow Palin was attacked in all this. What BS!

McCain has dishonored his service to the nation with his latest enthusiastic roll in the slime of Karl Rove. Lies, deception, hypocrisy, and hatred are the core message of the McCain campaign in this final stage. It is a sad and revolting sight.

This is a test of the intelligence of the American voters. Will we sink into the mire with McCain and accept the sludge that he is shoveling as the truth? Or will we reject these liars and demand the truth?

McCain should be held accountable for the vicious and vile tone of the campaign and for the lies that his running mate has been spewing on the stump.

Posted by: delta | September 10, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Who owns the media?

Check out the Pics of Obama, then McCain here on WaPo.

Even MSNBC seems to have lost its way today.

People who want a new regime in Washington have only themselves to lean on for information. When you find some, make sure to share it with as many people as you can.

This election is about emotion and cognitive dissonance.

Calling people stupid for their opinion makes no sense.

LOL


Posted by: there is no anonymous anymore | September 10, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

FOX News ------------- McCain +3
Gallup Tracking --------- McCain +5
Hotline/FD Tracking ----- Tie
Rasmussen Tracking ----- Obama +1
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl --- Obama +1
ABC News/Wash Post ---- McCain +2
USA Today/Gallup ------ McCain +10
CBS News ------------- McCain +2
CNN/OpinionResearch --- Tie

Go back to your South Side Chicago anti-white, woman-bashing church. You can't win without white women and we hate you.

WHERE U GETTING THIS INFO FROM? I WANT TO SEE IT FOR MYSELF

Posted by: yona loriner | September 10, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

If there is anything I hate it is a black man. I want a woman president and I insist that you all vote for Senator Palin! She's had years of experience in the White House and, hey, if she can stay married to Bill after all his demo-rat BS then she's got the sack for the job! If you don't vote to put a chick in the White House I'll hunt you down and smear YOU with Aspercreme. Just wait, you will get what you deserve.

I hate all men and I hate you too.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama, go back to your South Side Chicago anti-white, woman-bashing church. You can't win without white women and we hate you.

But if you divorced that nasty "Ho" Michelle, and showed us white women a little love -- particularly with some bling -- I think you might change our minds.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Geez, AsperGirl, sounds like you're so full of hate if it wasn't Obama it would be someone else. Get some therapy, lady.

Posted by: Mike | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

wow! its crazy! its like a zoo!!!!!

Posted by: yona loriner | September 10, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

And Dan Balz is simply above it all, innocent as a newborn.

Posted by: JLE | September 10, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay, the truth, please. Obama was not referring to Palin when he referred to lipstick on a pig, nobody really believes he was, he has been using the line from long before Palin joined the ticket. McCain and Plain are just trying to create phoney outrage. On the otherhand, the crowd responded in a way that indicated they were thinking about Palin.

Now why would the crowd link Palin with a pig? Maybe because they are aware that Palin, the great earmark fighter, in fact took more pork-earmarks per capita for Alaska than any other governor in the last two years. She is the Queen of Pork.

Posted by: Anon | September 10, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

The lies are bad enough. The truly sickening story is how the media has totally abdicated. The Fourth Estate is dead. There is no news there. Juxtaposing a reading of the talking points of each side is not reporting, is not journalism, and is not helpful. I'm thinking of Larry King surrendering his show for free to third rate opposition operatives during the conventions. I submit last night's example of Anderson Cooper "exposing" a fifth rate obviously lying fool as some sort of hard hitting fact finding in the blogoswamp only to follow it up with a special on fainting goats. Or the previous piece in which a certified scientist is balanced off with a certifiable Palin family friend to “illuminate” the governor's record on the environment. Two days of valuable pre-election information time has been wasted on debating the proposition that if pigs wear lipstick will they still be able to fly. It's bad enough that no one knows how to think any more. But it's truly the end of empire when the traditional guardians at the gate of information on our elected leaders choose to self-indumbinate. That sun setting in Alaska is rising in China.

Posted by: McCain's strategy: Lie, Lie, Lie, Lie | September 10, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin & Reverse Discrimination

Just as with racism there are a lot of sick people in the US. It would not take a rational & God seeking person 5 seconds to see the hypocrisy with Palin and TrooperGate. And the fact that so many Democrats are not speaking about Father Rights and/or a Children Right to a Father underscores my point.

Let us switch the sex roles for one second. Let us assume that Palin was a man and he used his power to try and get his ex-sister in law fired. In no way would we be having this discussion about Palin. He would be totally discredited. But cheating Fathers and Children out of Fathers has become routine in America. And the Democrats by not standing up for these rights are just as much to blame.

I do not think that the Democrats will have any chance of making TrooperGate and October surprise unless they make a long needed stand for Father Rights and/or a Children Right to a Father. But for now they have completely boxed themselves into a corner and have taken a position that Father Rights and/or a Children Right to a Father is anti-Women Rights.

If the Democrats continue to fail to take a position that Father Rights and/or a Children Right to a Father than TrooperGate will be an asset for Palin. regardless of the Alaska Legislature Investigations.

Sincerely,


Father X
From www.savebabyx.com

Posted by: Father X | September 10, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse


Just read the disgusting, nasty, racist rant by Dianne72 to see the true soul of these conservative fanatics. They have the gall to call Rev. Wright racist, then write this kind of garbage -- Michelle "Shiniqua" Obama, "her nostrils flaring," etc. A few days ago, another one of these disgusting, pathetic people called Michelle a "gorilla." But OH! If you care call them racist, their heads nearly explode.

Do you see? Disgusting.

And people wonder how the holocaust happened.

Posted by: Monk | September 10, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

FOX News ------------- McCain +3
Gallup Tracking --------- McCain +5
Hotline/FD Tracking ----- Tie
Rasmussen Tracking ----- Obama +1
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl --- Obama +1
ABC News/Wash Post ---- McCain +2
USA Today/Gallup ------ McCain +10
CBS News ------------- McCain +2
CNN/OpinionResearch --- Tie

Go back to your South Side Chicago anti-white, woman-bashing church. You can't win without white women and we hate you.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

JimMF, I've been watching you.

What you are doing with your mother is sinful. You must repent.

I've also been watching you raid medical waste bins of abortion clinics to use for soup. That is also sinful. You must repent, else I will make you lust for Larry Craig.

Posted by: Jesus | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Palin & Reverse Discrimination

Just as with racism there are a lot of sick people in the US. It would not take a rational & God seeking person 5 seconds to see the hypocrisy with Palin and TrooperGate. And the fact that so many Democrats are not speaking about Father Rights and/or a Children Right to a Father underscores my point.

Let us switch the sex roles for one second. Let us assume that Palin was a man and he used his power to try and get his ex-sister in law fired. In no way would we be having this discussion about Palin. He would be totally discredited. But cheating Fathers and Children out of Fathers has become routine in America. And the Democrats by not standing up for these rights are just as much to blame.

I do not think that the Democrats will have any chance of making TrooperGate and October surprise unless they make a long needed stand for Father Rights and/or a Children Right to a Father. But for now they have completely boxed themselves into a corner and have taken a position that Father Rights and/or a Children Right to a Father is anti-Women Rights.

If the Democrats continue to fail to take a position that Father Rights and/or a Children Right to a Father than TrooperGate will be an asset for Palin. regardless of the Alaska Legislature Investigations.

Sincerely,


Father X
From www.savebabyx.com

Posted by: Father X | September 10, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

A wolf in sheep's clothing just gives me the blues.
One man yells "one" and other screams "two".
They step from the boat and wrestle for the oars
as the boat they just stepped from floats from the shore.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

OK Larry Craig. You want to attack somebody's religion? What religion are you?


Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM
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I think some of you guys are too stupid to even understand the concept of a straw man; that's why you fall for it every election.

The issue isn't "what religion are you?" The issue is, what the heck is a millenialist doing seeking the highest office in the land? These folks are entitled to their spiritual beliefs, but she's already injected them into public policy ("That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs).

It's one thing to pray for protection of our soldiers: American leaders have done that since time immemorial. It's entirely another to describe an immoral war, one based on transparent lies, as having a plan provided by God.

Absolutely unacceptable in the leader of a secular republic. Especially when that leader embraces a literal (instead of the figurative) time when the world is destroyed to fulfill a prophecy.

What a country.

Posted by: abqcleve | September 10, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious - the US is not a nation of whiners - judging from the hater postings here today - it's a nation of Morons.

Why can't you mccain supporters/obama haters defend your candidate based on issues instead of juvenile venom?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

If McCain is serious about the good fight, he'll shake down Palin and his campaign speechwriters about repeated claims after they've been discredited.

Posted by: psk | September 10, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse


Exactly right, John F. This piece does suggest that both campaigns are equally lying and polarizing. It simply isn't true. One need merely watching the mocking, sneering, snarking speech by Palin to see the republican's polarizing approach. One need merely look at the Bridge to Nowhere lie that Palin keeps repeating to see the lies.

After decades of being called "liberal," the media has become so cowed that they'll qualify the most outrageous republican lie. (Funny how that wasn't the case with Gore, who was called a liar even when it demonstrably wasn't true. They kicked the crap out of HIM with glee.)

Do us all a favor. Just print the damn facts.

Posted by: Monk | September 10, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I wish that Barry would think of me as his personal teleprompter and open his mouth for me. Not that he'd have to open it very wide.

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Dan. What were you expecting? Obama's talk in 2004 about Blue-Red divisions being overstated was poetic nonsense. The Blue-Red division is quite real -- rooted in deep social and economic differences, some ancient and some the product of related demographic and economic changes over the past 25 years.

Blue States are more "diverse" and more open to globalization. Red States are less "diverse" and more fearful of changes in the world. Yes, they are "bitter and clinging" and it's not going to do them any good.

At the same time, immigration and internal migration are changing the boundaries between Blue and Red America. Clinton was able to win because he picked off some "Red" states, with a big assist from Perot, while winning in Blue States despite his "good ole boy" personna.

Gore and Kerry tried but could not accomplish this.

But Obama might, if only because certain Red States, due to immigration, are going Blue. Examples include New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada (due to increased latino population) and Virginia, due to the explosive growth of NOVA, which is more northern and Blue than southern and Red.

McCain's surge in the national polls masks the fact that Palin is not doing him much good in the Blue States. Or in the true battle grounds of this election: Nevada, NM, Col., and VA. The new "blue" voters in these states are as repelled by Palinotics as Red Staters are energized. If Obama's ground game holds up in these states, he will win.

And if he effectively leads thereafter -- actually makes progress on deficit reduction, health care and energy, more red states will turn blue. We will see the long awaited "realignment."

McCain, to win, must get the whites of NM, Col., Nev. and VA as upset as possible. We'll see if he can do it and how. Sarah Palin is not going to energize the latino vote in NM, Col and Nevada. And she probably has minimal appeal in NOVA. We'll see.

Posted by: mnjam | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

why cant we be friends guys??? we all want whats best for this country we just disagree how to get there!!!!! is that a reason to fight like cats and dogs? comon fellas

Posted by: yona loriner | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

And what we white women hate Obama for the most is that he married a black woman instead of one of us. hell hath no fury like a white woman scored in favor of a black woman.

Parson me while I slip into these white sheets.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

"Lil Smokie McCain"?!!!????

Palin will be sooooo disapointed!

Posted by: Carol | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Dianne72: Wow, racist much?

Posted by: good lord | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

WHAT PIG WITH LIPSTICK ON ALSO SMELLS LIKE A FISH OBAMA?

Obama: "lipstick on a pig" & "it smells like a fish"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler insults Palin by saying John McCain chose a running mate " whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

Here’s another example of a vicious liberal democrat. The only "bleeding heart" Carol Fowler and other vicious liberals know is the one they stabbed (figuratively) for political gain and the ones they mutilated (literally) in the womb.

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

lol larry i disagree with u but u got a good sence of humor!

Posted by: yona loriner | September 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

By the way, any of you guys fish?

I haven't spawned in ages.

Posted by: willandjansdad | September 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

The worst thing about being me is that nobody takes me seriously.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama's been in San Francisco and Scranton. I'm so jealous of San Francisco and Scranton!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

WHY BAM'S FLAILING
URBAN MACHINE RUNS AGROUND
By MARK CUNNINGHAM
September 10, 2008

"IF it suddenly seems like the Obama campaign doesn't have any idea what it's doing, maybe that's because it doesn't.

"Barack Obama has never run a campaign against a real Republican. And his main strategist, David Axelrod, is way out of his areas of expertise.

"Axelrod specializes in urban politics. He's run a bunch of mayoral races (usually in cities with lots of blacks), plus contests in true-blue states like Massachusetts and New York...."

more at: http://www.nypost.com/seven/09102008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/why_bams_flailing_128293.htm

It should be noted that he never won any really contested election before. He got his ex-friend disqualified, used legal tricks, one opponent imploded in a sex scandal & his last opponent (for his Illinois senate seat) didn't even live in the state.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Cindy McCAIN??

What on earth would you do with that dryed up piece of jerky??

John did call her the "C" word once-(Rhymes with STUNT)-- So if you too have a lot of money and a BIG DYCK, you might be able to pull her away from Lil' Smokie McCain, as the Sailors used to call him...

He'll be bending Palin over in the oval office before long...I hear he has already ordered her monogramed knee pads!!


Posted by: larry | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

It is seem hard to fathom that some of the folks on here are fellow Americans with the kind of rancor being spewed across the message boards. For me it is Country first and then party. But it appears that for many, if you don't belong to their particualar party you should be tossed out of the country. Hmm, where have we seen that before??

Think - vote - and - and remember what America stands for. Your fellow Americans are not your enemies just because they don't agree with you on everything.

Posted by: jmd | September 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

OK Larry Craig. You want to attack somebody's religion? What religion are you?
Posted by JimMF
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Why Jim, isn't it obvious?
I'm Episscopalian.

And Jesus is watching you do those shameful deeds with your mother.

Posted by: Larry Craig | September 10, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama in Scranton:

HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE HOPE CHANGE

Obama in San Francisco:

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THEM BITTER WHITE TRASH!

Obama before Susan Palin appears:

ME ME ME MY $6 MILLION STAGE FIREWORKS ORCHESTRAL SCORE ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

Obama after Sarah Palin appears:

HELLO? HILLARY? THIS IS BARACK. LOOK I KNOW IT'S 3 AM. LOOK CAN YOU HELP ME OUT?

NO? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO NOW?

OH YEAH! MY SEXUAL SLUR PLAYBOOK FROM PRIMARY SEASON!

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I simply cannot stand all those men telling me that I smell like fish, because they don't tell me what kind of fish I smell like.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if I have a chance with Cindy McCain when John dumps her for Sarah Palin?

Posted by: JimMF

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I doubt it limp dick.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

John F: you've hit the nail on the head. the press has been so cowed by the right wing republicans that they won't dare call out McCain's campaign for their vicious and false lies with out spreading the blame around to make it seem like their reports are unbiased. total BS

WAKE UP PEOPLE!! IF YOU'VE ENJOYED THE PAST 8 YEARS THEN YOU'LL LOVE ANOTHER 4 WITH MCCAIN!!!

too bad the media won't do their jobs but we need to stand up for ourselves at this point and say enough is enough.

Posted by: 4 more years? | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

From the Times (UK) - September 10, 2008

"At the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, Sarah Palin’s former pastor sees powerful signs that the end of the world is nigh........"

Posted by: Larry Craig | September 10, 2008 5:22 PM


OK Larry Craig. You want to attack somebody's religion? What religion are you?

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

By the way, any of you guys fish?

I haven't spawned in ages.

Posted by: Jack Straw | September 10, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Lord, please have Obama continue to use that Bridge to Nowhere line. It has progressed from a dumb attack almost all the way to a Big Lie. Obama voted for that bridge -- twice! So did Joe Biden. Obama has requested almost a billion dollars in earmarks in just three years of being in the Senate; McCain doesn’t earmark at all.


Posted by: Ruth A | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM
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Wow. Your team's math leads to bigger and bigger numbers every day. At long last, have you no shame at all for your mindless parrotting of lies from your masters?


Posted by: abqcleve | September 10, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

WHAT PIG WITH LIPSTICK ON IT ALSO SMELLS LIKE A FISH OBAMA?

Obama: "lipstick on a pig" & "it smells like a fish"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine if McCain said "if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black". They're would be a nuclear bomb's worth of press controversy.

Sure, Obama might not have meant it. But the crowd sure took it that way, and it just goes to show that Obama isn't clued in enough that there are times you have to be sensitive about what you say.

Posted by: PenguinSix | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Why saddle Obama with the same charge as McCain. Obama wants to talk about policy, while Palin and McCain want to talk about gossip and imaginary insults. Obama did not say anything about Palin being a pig. He used the same phrase that McCain uses all the time, but then McCain jumps on it and twists it and makes stuff up. Obama wants to debate policy. McCain doesn't want to talk about issues because his own campaign manager said he will lose on the issues. Yet Balz says Obama is divisive? You can't just accuse someone of doing something when they haven't. It is McCain and Palin that are being divisive. Obama is just speaking up loudly. If he didn't Balz would say he wasn't fighting back. I hate journalists that do this. They try to be objective by painting both sides with the sin that only one has committed. It is McCain who is doing the divisive stuff. Look at their convention... no issues, just attacks.

Posted by: goldie | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if I have a chance with Cindy McCain when John dumps her for Sarah Palin?

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

EXACTLY!!! What Bob said!!


I am sick to my stomach hearing about this ARMY of Bush staff, publicists and PR people "coaching" Sarah Palin for her upcoming interview.

NEWSFLASH to the Republicans--We DON'T WANT A COACHED PRESIDENT!! WE ALREADY HAVE ONE NOW, AND HE WILL GO DOWN IN THE HISTORY BOOKS AS THE WORST PRESIDENT WE HAVE EVER SEEN--(So far)---

I still keep hoping Ashton Kucher is going to jump out from behind the podium when Palin is speaking, to tell our Nation that we have just been PUNKED....but he isn't anywhere to be seen!!!!!

This is so CRAZY!

Posted by: jAKE | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"you and JakeD are the exactly the type of folks who make Balz's point. McCain's team pretends to be all upset about a common turn of phrase and makes it sound like obama was dissing poor gov. palin. did you read the whole quote that makes it obvious that he was talking about change and not gov. palin? "

How about you? Seen the whole quote? Obama not only referred to McCain adding Palin to his ticket as "lipstick on a pig" but he also remarked that it smelled "like an old fish"!

OBAMA ON MCCAIN-PALIN TICKET:
"LIPSTICK ON A PIG" & "IT SMELLS LIKE FISH"

Obama described the McCain-Palin ticket while mocking the McCain campaign's new "change" message. "You can put lipstick on a pig," he said to a laughing Ohio audience. "It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink"

Obama: "lipstick on a pig" & "it smells like a fish"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/09/politics/fromtheroad/entry4433206.shtml

Why is he mixing a porcine analogy with an piscine metaphor? What's the point of that kind of stretch?

I.e., What kind of lipstick-wearing pig smells like a fish?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

A very even handed account of a very uneven terrain. Please tell us what the Obama campaign has done to encourage the vitriol. We have seen him again and again pass up chances to pile on, as the other side gets more and more Rovian. I have seen no "attacks" on Palin, simply observations of the facts. Alas, the Post is adopting the Fox noise theory that there is no truth, only opinion. You people would turn Hitler and Churchill into "He said, he said."

Posted by: Joel Roache | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama must not like bridges:

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=Yzk1MWE2ZDg5OGE3ZGYyMTY3ZGEyZTIzMTk0MjVhZWQ=


From the article:

"Obama and Biden had an excellent opportunity to do the right thing. Just seven weeks after Hurricane Katrina, Senator Tom Coburn (R., Okla.) proposed to transfer $125 million from the notorious Bridge’s budget and instead devote it to rebuilding the Interstate 10 Twin Spans Bridge between New Orleans and St. Tammany’s Parish. The storm chopped up the bridge.

"We have the largest natural catastrophe we have ever seen in our history,” Coburn said on the Senate floor on October 20, 2005. “It is time we reassess the priorities we utilize in this body as we think about our obligations at home.”

Coburn’s amendment failed 15-82. Obama and Biden were among the “nays.” They and 80 other senators preferred to protect the earmarking tradition than to assist Katrina’s tempest-tossed citizens.

Obama and Biden put pork first and people second. While the residents of New Orleans and southern Louisiana endured perhaps their greatest challenge since the Civil War, Obama and Biden both turned their backs on these embattled Americans."

Posted by: grunk | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Balz writes:" The fact-checkers are working overtime to call his campaign to account, as my colleague Jonathan Weisman wrote in Wednesday's Post. But in a 24/7, constant news cycle environment, there is no way for most people to keep up as the charges and countercharges fly back and forth."

Here's an idea, Balz. Do your job. Uncover the facts. This is not about "charges and countercharges." Good god.

Sometimes a lie is a lie.

Under the current MSM formulation, I can say that 2 + 2=5. Then someone indignantly says that it does not. And the MSM gives both sides equal weight.

This is how Republicans get away with it. It's the old "when did you stop beating your wife?" tactic.

In this case, it can clearly be shown that Palin blatantly misrepresented the Bridge to Nowhere (among other matters.)

Just do your job.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Somehow, even this piece (especially the "headline" given it on the main web page) seems to blame the two campaigns equally for the lying and polarizing that is going on. Can't anyone say that McCain's campaign is doing this without saying that Obama's is too?

Posted by: John F | September 10, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Aspergirl...I've got to be pretty drunk to breed out of my species.

Posted by: willandjansdad
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You are right. Sheep should stick with sheep.
BAH BAH BAH moron.

Posted by: Jack Straw | September 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

From the Times (UK) - September 10, 2008

At the Wasilla Assembly of God Church, Sarah Palin’s former pastor sees powerful signs that the end of the world is nigh.

Pastor Ed Kalnins cites conflict in the Middle East, America’s dependence on foreign oil and the depletion of energy reserves as evidence that “storm clouds are gathering”. He told The Times: “Scripture specifically mentions oil instability as a sign of the Rapture. We’re seeing more and more oil wars. The contractions of the fulfilment of prophecies are getting tighter and tighter.”

He declined to set an exact date for the Rapture, or the “End of Days” – the belief in a time when Jesus will return, raising up believers to Heaven and leaving the wicked to be ruled by the Antichrist – but hopes it will be in his lifetime. “I’m looking out the window and I can see it’s going to rain,” he said. “I’m just looking at the turmoil of the world, Iraq, other places – everywhere people are fighting against Christ.”

Link to full article below:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4720440.ece

Posted by: Larry Craig | September 10, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Another example of a loser liberal joking around with my name:

"And if you guys correctly guessed the answer to my previous question (What does the "MF in my names stand for?), let me tell you: my mother LOVES it!

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM"

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Let's talk about important issues, ok?

Why get caught up in the political spin of the day?


Posted by: there is no anonymous anymore | September 10, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA ON MCCAIN-PALIN TICKET:
"LIPSTICK ON A PIG" & "IT SMELLS LIKE FISH"

Obama described the McCain-Palin ticket while mocking the McCain campaign's new "change" message. "You can put lipstick on a pig," he said to a laughing Ohio audience. "It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink"

Obama: "lipstick on a pig" & "it smells like a fish"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/09/politics/fromtheroad/entry4433206.shtml

Why is he mixing a porcine analogy with an piscine metaphor? What's the point of that kind of stretch?

I.e., What kind of lipstick-wearing pig smells like a fish?

And this was the 2nd day this line was trotted out. Joe Biden test-drove it the day before. The crowd obviously believed it applied to Palin personally, if you watch their clapping & raucous cheers in the video. Even if he doesn't get what's wrong with them, the reaction to the statement should signal to Obama that there's something wrong with his words.

Obama is reverting to true form as a ghetto trash-talker who sat in Rev. Wright's Trinity Church pews for 20 years after going to Harvard. Ugh.

If he gets elected, how long before he creates some international incident with his inappropriate behavior and cluelessness? If he doesn't get this, how will he get complicated rules of cross-cultural symbolism & courtesy? How can such a clueless, obstinate trash-talker be a head of state?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of polarization, have we've gotten a clear statement from Gov. Palin on the issue of her affiliation with her church in Wasilla?
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I would imagine about the same time as Barry tells the US why he attended a racist's hate monger's church for 20 years. Or maybe when he finds the records of his time in the IL legislature. Anymore questions?

Posted by: Jack Straw | September 10, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Not true, JakeD. Obama was talking about McCain when he said "lipstick on a pig"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_bDX8wv1jk

Here is McCain saying the "lipstick on a pig" when asked about Hillary's health plan. It's an expression like "water over the bridge". HAHAHAHA Did I say bridge?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeA2ap0Lpmk

There are more important issues, do you think?

Come on, friends. We have a country with serious problems.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | September 10, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Good work Dan Balz. You continue to earn your reputation as a exemplar of the contemporary journalistic ideal of non-partisan, non-truth seeking, "fair and balanced" to the point that truth is unknowable, paralyzed and unable to evaluate the truth value of 1=0, actively assisting in the disinformation of your consumer, providing false information to your readers as often as you can, packed with euphemisms such as "stretching the truth" rather than the more accurate lying, and actively assisting in the debasing and destruction of meaningful democracy in America.

Gold star for Balz... keep up the good work and you will get a promotion from the future Republican party media organ. They may even invite you out to the McCain Sedona mansion, I mean "cabin."
Andrew Bellinger

Posted by: Andrew Bellinger | September 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

It's so sad the Republicans don't know how to tell the difference between a pig, a dog or a woman. Evidently they were too preoccupied with their studies of Creationism to pay attention to their kindergarten animal lesson. They think they're all the same creature, or, Sarah Palin is all of them. If someone is talking about a dog, they must really be talking about Sarah Palin. If someone is talking about a pig, they must really be talking about Sarah Palin. But if they are talking about Sarah Palin, what are they really talking about? We will never know the answer.

Posted by: Truth Maverick | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Aspergirl...I've got to be pretty drunk to breed out of my species.

Posted by: willandjansdad | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse


ELECTING A PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT THAT NEEDS TO TAKE A CRASH COURSE ON FOREIGN POLICY is like.....

GETTING ON A 7-47 AT THE AIRPORT AND SEEING THAT YOUR "CAPTAIN" IS READING CHAPTER ONE OF THE BOOK ON FLYING!!!

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Republicans!! Independents!! Dems!!!

I don't care HOW MUCH YOU LIKE Sarah Palin or that "Naughty Librarian" thing she has workin'......SHE IS NO MORE READY TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY THAN BRITNEY SPEARS!!


LET'S ELECT A PRESIDENT WITH AN INTELLECT FOR ONCE......WE DESERVE IT!

Posted by: Bob | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

McCain started this crap when he couldn't get any attention running on his record. When a campaign is run on personality not issues, this is what you get.

Rovian politics is alive and well in the GOP.

I hope people realize that drill, drill, drill and Ms. Palin's solutions will not restore this nation.

Posted by: reboot923 | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

And if you guys correctly guessed the answer to my previous question (What does the "MF in my names stand for?), let me tell you: my mother LOVES it!

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse


I really like Obama's daughters. Would like to get a piece of that.

Posted by: James T | September 10, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of polarization, have we've gotten a clear statement from Gov. Palin on the issue of her affiliation with her church in Wasilla? I've done some reading on the congregation, and she seems quite involved and quite loyal to it (belonged since early teens). Reading about their beliefs, I was struck by the similarities to some of the preaching of Pastor John Hagee, from whom John McCain was forced to disassociate himself earlier in the campaign. Certainly she seems more closely linked than Obama was with Jeremiah Wright.

I'd like to see an in-depth discussion of the areas where her beliefs might intersect with public policy. Not just abortion, of course; that one has been made plain. I'd be more interesting in hearing her views on stem cell research and in particular, on the possibility of Armageddon (a big theme among fundamentalists). She is hoping to have her finger on the button some day, after all.

Of course, I realize this isn't as compelling as pig metaphors LOL...

Posted by: samson151 | September 10, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

That brilliant, but somewhat forgotten political tactician, Prime Miniter Harold Wilson of Great Britain once said that "a week in politics is a long time". A number of articles in today's press make the point that the McCain campaign is scraping the barrel with tactics and content, while the Obama campaign (according to Dan Baltz) is behaving witg due restraint and resoponsibilty (My words not his!). Gov. Palin is avoiding the press, and every slight, real, but mainly imagined is being exaggerated by McCain's surrogates. You may be sure that the tables are about to be turned as the American voters begin to understand what is happening.

Posted by: paulgroom@telefinance.com.br | September 10, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

John McCain and Sarah Palin are LIARS. There is ONLY ONE CAMPAIGN that is lying...whether it's about the bridge to nowhere, being against earmarks while hiring lobbyists to get them, about Obama's sexual predator education supported by the Boy Scouts, or about McCain trying to put lipstick on his pig of a record. John McCain is NOT FIT TO BE PRESIDENT...no integrity left. He's been on the downside since he turned a blind eye and voted to let Bush torture. A very sad, pathetic man.

Posted by: FiddleDeeDee | September 10, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Lord, please have Obama continue to use that Bridge to Nowhere line. It has progressed from a dumb attack almost all the way to a Big Lie. Obama voted for that bridge -- twice! So did Joe Biden. Obama has requested almost a billion dollars in earmarks in just three years of being in the Senate; McCain doesn’t earmark at all.

Posted by: Ruth A | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I wish that Barry would think of me as his personal teleprompter and open his mouth for me. Not that he'd have to open it very wide.

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler insults Palin by saying John McCain chose a running mate " whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

Here’s another example of a vicious liberal democrat. The only "bleeding heart" Carol Fowler and other vicious liberals know is the one they stabbed (figuratively) for political gain and the ones they mutilated (literally) in the womb.

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote: "The Republicans and their cronies DONT give a damn about you, your family, our enironment or this country. They are only concerned about sqeezing every last dime they can for their personal gain."

If that were true, life would be so simple.

How about this: "The Republicans sincerely believe, in the face of a growing body of evidence to the contrary, that what's good for the wealthiest 20 per cent of Americans is also what's most likely to improve the standard of living of that portion of the remaining 80 per cent which is willing to work hard."

It *is* possible to debate politics, and tell the truth at the same time. It just doesn't make for good comic books, and requires, oh, an eleventh grade reading level.

Posted by: OfficerMancuso | September 10, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

The latest Bush Administration scandal featuring sex, lies, and oil drilling is taking place in the Interior Department as reported in a comprehensive and scathing report from the department's inspector general.

The inspector general wrote of "A culture of ethical failure" which described the Interior Department and indeed the entire Bush Administration.

Now we have the McCain campaign working overtime to corrupt our political processes. McCain will be in a good position to continue the "culture of ethical failure" if he is elected in November.

McCain is dishonorable, pandering, and a flat-out liar. After watching his latest lying attack ad, you need a shower to wash off the dirt he has spewed.

How in the world does McCain propose to govern our nation after he has run a campaign covered in such filth?

Posted by: delta | September 10, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama will still be able to respect himself when this is over. I doubt McCain will.

Posted by: Loren in Iowa | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM
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True enough, but the point that struck me like a brick this year, watching McCain abandon everything he's ever stood for on taxes, immigration, torture, etc., etc., is he clearly knows this is his last lap. He's make a Faustian bargain and doesn't care because he won't be around much longer.

But the piper, some will say (including Goethe) must be paid.....

Posted by: abqcleve | September 10, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

>>"Now FactCheck.org flatly states that McCain-Palin is distorting their findings in the latest bit of false advertising from the McCain campaign."

WHO'S LISTENING TO THE MEDIA ANYMORE?

They have no credibility anymore.

This Spring, factcheck.org still reported that there was no evidence to support that there was any "racist sermon preachers" associated with Barack Obama, for months after FoxNews was running Rev. Jeremiah Wright videos & stories and for weeks after the videos went viral in March.

They, and the Washington Post "factcheck" feature, are sheer corrupt partisan blogs and most people who watched the primaries (and Republicans) learned that a long time ago.

Few people now believe in these phony, partisan "news" and "fact" sites anymore until they prove themselves to be credible.

And factcheck.org has already blown its credibility as being an Obama tool.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

By the way, can you guys guess what the "MF" in my name stands for?

heh-heh-heh

Posted by: JimMF
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Mental Freeze?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl, make me dinner.

you and JakeD are the exactly the type of folks who make Balz's point. McCain's team pretends to be all upset about a common turn of phrase and makes it sound like obama was dissing poor gov. palin. did you read the whole quote that makes it obvious that he was talking about change and not gov. palin? no, of course not. you just want to hear what you want to hear and spin it as truth. so sad.

Posted by: AsperGirl is Really Smart |
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Well most of America disagrees with you, but I'm sure you are used to being in the minority. I mean you are a Barry supporter, aren't you? We don't need some clueless deluded Obamaniac interpreting what Barry said. If Barry is such a Brilliant speaker, why does he need his cult members to interpret him? Barry shouldn't open his mouth w/o a teleprompter or else the real Barry is revealed. Accept reality.

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

By the way, can you guys guess what the "MF" in my name stands for?

heh-heh-heh

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Energy Crisis
Economic Crisis
Deficit Crisis
Healthcare Crisis
Mortgage Crisis
Iraqi War Crisis

All brought to you courtesy of your friends at the GOP!

Posted by: SwingState | September 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

CAN'T ANYONE USE A SEXIST SLUR ON ME?

IT'S BEEN FOREVER SINCE I HAD ANYONE TALK DIRTY TO ME.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

A Piggish Debate

Last October, asked about Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care plan, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was blunt.

McCain said Clinton's proposal was “eerily” similar to the ill-fated plan she devised in 1993.

“I think they put some lipstick on a pig,” he said, “but it’s still a pig.”

A common expression, right?

McCain surely wasn't calling Clinton a pig.

After all, McCain's former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era."

Elizabeth Edwards told some health journalists that McCain's health care plan was like “painting lipstick on a pig.”

Tonight Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said of McCain painting himself as a change agent, "You know, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

The crowd rose and applauded.

(Some of them no doubt were thinking he may have been in some way alluding to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's ad lib during her vice presidential nomination acceptance speech last week, "What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick.")

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called 'change,'" Obama continued, "it's still gonna stink after eight years. We’ve had enough of the same old thing! It’s time to bring about real change to Washington. And that’s the choice you’ve got in this election."

Obama's campaign insisted that he was not alluding to Palin at all.

"That expression is older than my grandfather's grandfather," said Obama campaign spox Jen Psaki, "and it means that you can dress something up but it doesn't change what it is. He was talking pretty clearly about the fact that you can't just call yourself change when you've voted with George Bush 90 percent of the time."

Obama has used the expression before. Last September, around the time McCain said it about Clinton's health care plan.

"I think that both Gen. Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are capable people who have been given an impossible assignment," Obama said in a telephone interview. "George Bush has given a mission to Gen. Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig."

Why should anyone believe McCain didn't mean it about Hillary Clinton, but Obama meant it about Palin?

And yet, the inaugural conference call of what the McCain-Palin campaign is calling the "Palin Truth Squad" addressed Obama's remark.

And interestingly, the Truth Squad call was full of half-truths and statements that weren't true at all.

Speaking on behalf of the McCain campaign, former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift tonight flatly stated that Obama had called Palin a pig.

"[T]he formation of the Palin Truth Squad couldn't have happened too soon, as we saw when Sen. Obama in Lebanon, Va., this evening uttered what I can only deem to be disgraceful comments comparing our vice presidential nominee Gov. Palin to a pig," Swift said.

"Sen. Obama owes Gov. Palin an apology," she said.

Asked why she was so confident Obama was "comparing" Palin to a pig, she said Palin was the only one of the four candidates on both parties' tickets who wears lipstick.

"She is the only one of the four candidates for president, or the only vice presidential candidate who wears lipstick," Swift said. "I mean, it seemed to me a very gendered comment."

But, Swift added, if "as part of his apology Sen. Obama wants to say, no, he was calling Sen. McCain -- who is a true hero in our country -- a pig, then I suppose we could wait en masse for an apology to that, as well."

It was pointed out to Swift that, after the line about the pig, Obama had said, "You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called 'change,' it's still gonna stink after eight years."

Swift then suggested that Obama was calling McCain a fish.

"I have a fourth-grader and two second-graders at home," she said. "I would not teach them that this is sort of a high-minded debate on policy issues when they are calling people rotten old fish or a pig. In fact, it sounds a lot like some of the least intelligent debates on the playground sound like at our elementary school."

A reporter then reminded Swift that in December, McCain was asked about criticisms coming his way from then-opponent Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., and McCain replied, "Never get into a wrestling match with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."

Was McCain calling Romney a pig? a reporter asked Swift.

Of course not, Swift said.

It seems to me we should have one rule. If Obama was calling Palin a pig, then McCain was calling Hillary Clinton one. If McCain wasn't, then Obama wasn't.

from abcnews.com


Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

to get the unvarnished truth from both sides and stop listening to morons like AsperGirl and JakeD. It wont take long to determine that they are full of sh*t.

Posted by: Please see Factcheck.org | September 10, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler insults Palin by saying John McCain chose a running mate " whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

Another example of a vicious liberal democrat. The only "bleeding heart" Carol Fowler and other vicious liberals know is the one they satbbed (figuratively) for political gain and the ones they mutilated (literally) in the womb.

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

MORE SLEAZY SEXIST WOMAN-BASHING OF PALIN

South Carolina Obama surrogate Fowler: "Palin's main qualifications is that she hasn't had an abortion."

THIS IS HOW THEY TREATED HILLARY CLINTON!

EVIL TRASH-TALKING, SEXUALLY PERVERSE DEPICTIONS

BELITTLING & SNICKERING, SEXIST SLURS

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Man do these boards get abused.

Posted by: Goose | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

I wish I could look half as trashy as Michelle Obama. the best I can do is to look like a pig with lipstick.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

The tagline of this article was misprinted. It should have read "Rather than bring about reconciliation, the Reupblican campaign fosters further division in the country."

The MSM is always blaming both parties for horse poo that only the Republicans are doing.

Posted by: Misprint | September 10, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Now FactCheck.org flatly states that McCain-Palin is distorting their findings in the latest bit of false advertising from the McCain campaign.

Defend Palin, get used and misrepresented by the McCain campaign. Same thing happened to Katie Couric with a quote defending Hillary Clinton. More honor and truth from the Straight Talk express.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

"I can't believe Obama called Palin's statement a "foolish diversion". That plays right into the Republican strategy. All it does is reinforce his image as an elitist intellectual."

Rightwing tactic #38: Rational discussions and logical arguments are for losers!!!1

Come on, rightwingers! Grow a pair and start talking about the issues that are important to Americans. What will your guys do to reduce the unemployment rate and help make health insurance affordable for all Americans?

Ya gotta wonder if the rightwing thinks it can keep up its lies and pointless accusations until November 4. That's a whole lotta time to waste chirping about meaningless stuff when you could be discussing, I don't know, maybe foreign policy or something?

Posted by: castanea | September 10, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Boo hoo hoo, Balzy. Cry me a river pal. This is politics!

Posted by: Repubsux
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Then why did Barry and his cult, you included, cry and whine when Lynn Westmoreland used the word "uppity?" The definition of uppity is: affecting an attitude of inflated self-esteem; haughty; snobbish. You hypocritical Obamabots are hilarious.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:44 PM
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Wow. A neocon that knows the definition of actual words. Who woulda thunk it! Your boy could have used you over the last eight years.

Posted by: Repubsux
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That's the best you can do. Not intelligent enough to defend your messiah. Like a little child all you can do is insult. I am an independent, but you have probably NEVER been right in your life. Don't cry because I proved your juvenile post was just BS. I'm sure it happens to you all the time.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama will still be able to respect himself when this is over. I doubt McCain will.
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But McCain will have his hookers comfort him.

Posted by: Chuck Norris | September 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl (or someone pretending to that exalted name) wrote, "I've been completely wrong and I am ashamed of myself for spreading lies and racist innuendo. Please forgive me."

Only if you're wearing lipstick.

Posted by: OfficerMancuso | September 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

What's worse? The fact that he says this crap or the fact that he doesn't realize how offended people are?

Obama isn't running to be director of the local pool hall.
He's running for president and to make his wife first lady.

This stuff may seem funny, or only slightly over the line to you, but for a head-of-state it's like putting a foul-mouthed, South Side Chicago Richard Nixon in the White House.

What is acceptable but off-color bi*ch-slapping humor to SOME middle class people is totally inappropriate for the social class that a president & his first lady.

You people probably still don't realize what's wrong with Michelle Obama going around publicly saying Americans are slobs and cynics.

Barack & Michelle Obama's trashy gaffes are too much. They continue to be so inappropriate for the class of society they pretend they're comfortable with.

If heads of state don't understand the import of their words and don't know how to behave with verbal decency, that's a bad thing.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama is just mad because Sarah could beat him on the basketball court.

Posted by: My view | September 10, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I heard Palin supported taking polarizing campaigns off the endangered species list? Or was that polarized glasses?

Posted by: abqcleve` | September 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait until Bristol Palin and that Levi loser break up. I'm definitely going to tap that.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

>>scott032 wrote: "AsperGirl, Senator Obama used the phrase to describe Senator McCain's policies. He did not use it to describe Governor Palin."

Oh go to hell you liar.

McCain was referring to a policy proposal, not people.

"In Iowa last October, McCain drew comparisons between Hillary Clinton's current healthcare plan and the one she championed in 1993: "I think they put some lipstick on the pig, but it's still a pig." He used roughly the same line in May, after effectively claiming the Republican nomination."

"McCain spokesman Brian Rogers told CNN the campaign saw a “big difference” between the two references: “McCain was referring to a policy proposal. Obama was referring to Governor Sarah Palin. It’s obviously disrespectful and offensive…."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/09/mccain-camp-says-lipstick-on-a-pig-is-trip-through-the-mud/

Anyone who went to a good college should know you don't use "lipstick on a pig" to refer to people (or in this case the McCain-Palin ticket).

Joe Biden trotted out that same slur yesterday, trying it out. They know what people think it means. The audience was raucously applauding & clapping. No one thinks it's a policy reference.

SOUTH SIDE CHICAGO INSENSITIVE TRASHY GAFFES = INTERNATIONAL INCIDENTS

Michelle & Barack Obama ARE NOT READY to be Head-of-State & First Lady.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

McCain's new theme of "reform" is cool - so it's ironic how he immediately posted ads featuring lies about Obama - and lies about his own running mate's record. (You recall how she sold that plane on eBay and made a profit?)


And we have all seen his latest ad in which McCain attacks Obama for supporting state legislation that would teach school children how to protect themselves from pedophiles, calling it “comprehensive sex education.” This one really was over the top even for a Rove-inspired ad.


McCain’s personal approval of this disgusting claim gives new meaning to the term “dirty old man.”
I suspect that we haven’t seen the last of the deceitful ads from this “reformer.” The campaign is heating up and John McCain is sacrificing his honor for his chance to be president.

Posted by: BlunderBush | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama will still be able to respect himself when this is over. I doubt McCain will.

Posted by: Loren in Iowa | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

------PEOPLE--------


There is a LOT to question, but please do not get sucked into the JERRY SPRINGER side show, brought to you by the REPBLICANS!! They would LOVE for you to get sidetracked by their little show but don't take the BAIT...there are too many important issues at stake.

As we trade jabs back and forth on these boards, our country is being raped and plundered right under our noses. Last month, Henry Paulson SWORE Fannie and Freddie were adequately capitalized, and last weekend, we just witnessed the biggest BAIL OUT in this history of this country.

The Republicans and their cronies DONT give a damn about you, your family, our enironment or this country. They are only concerned about sqeezing every last dime they can for their personal gain.

If you listen to nothing else, please listen to the independent third party fact checkers that are now calling 90% of what the McCain campaign says, ABSOLUTE LIES!!!!



Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I just wish that John McCain spent more money on me after that night of pleasure I gave him in Minneapolis. Did he call? No. Did he send flowers? No. Did he event text me? No. That's all the thanks I get for making whoopie with an old fart?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Just think this time next year we will all be here complaining about who ever wins this election! One simple fact you can not please all the people all the time. If both McCain and Obama realized this it just might be a real election, as it stands now lets all vote for your choice of American Idol oops I mean president now! The debates will put a real spin on this play time!

Posted by: Independent for life | September 10, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

This all reminds me of the media after 911. Cowering in the face of Republican rancor. The very idea that Sadamm Hussein was tied to 911 went unchallenged by the media cowards including this paper. We moral Americans killed and displayed his Sons on TV who did nothing more than what most spoiled priveledged children do. But nothing subverting our way of life. Now we can't ask anything about Sarah Palin we just have to take it! Do we really want her calling the shots when the Empire state building is falling or North Korea attacks it's neighbors? What makes her qualified? Killing a couple of MOOSE? Should not the White House be exempliary of stability. So regular white men are just Girly Men hanging onto their wives coat tails. Who would have thought! This is a serious time this racial class divide you know the not like us comments have no place here. America as we once knew it is falling and our children are going to suffer big time because adult White America has an identity problem. You would rather see this great nation fall than live up to the creed that makes America Great. Tuck you head between your legs white men and Kiss America Goodbye.....Cowards die a million deaths!

Posted by: Martin | September 10, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

fake JakeD(s) at 4:54 PM and 4:38 PM

palintothepress:

Actually, that's TWO interviews in two weeks.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

This country is hopelessly divided and fragmented and reconciliation is impossible. The Republic is irreparably crumbling.

Posted by: rplat | September 10, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Facts are stupid things that Republicans don't have to deal with. As part of their war on science, war on the media, war on seculars, war on anyone and anything they don't like, it is perfectly permissible to lie. Once it is out their, the damage is done. The zombie lie will live on with right wing hate radio and in viral emails even as the lie gets debunked by fact checkers.

McCain could not would not define honor a couple of weeks back. Watching his campaign dive to the bottom, it is now clear. He will do and say anything to damage his opponent and win.

Posted by: Birdman | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Is Illinois below sea level? Or is it just New Orleans and most of Louisiana?

You are right we are polarized ... and it all started with Whitewater ... and Monica ...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Even-handedness is not appropriate in this circumstance. The Republicans are wildly out of line with their attacks. They have used distortion, deception, and lies to try to frame a negative view of Obama. The Obama campaign has not done any of this.

The "attacks" against Sarah Palin last week that Republicans complain about were in fact examples of the media doing its proper work: digging to find out the truth about an unknown and untested candidate.

This election is an intelligence test for American voters. Will we stupidly accept as truth the blatent lies perpetrated by the Republicans? Or will we stand up, demand that the GOP retract their slimey ads and apologize for their lies?

This is a test and so far we are failing miserably.

Posted by: dee | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Politics is becoming divisive? Sure ... and the media are there, every step of the way, getting lost on pointless tangents over lipstick and pigs and personal narratives, all the while ignoring any rational discussion of issues.

Posted by: castanea | September 10, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl: Why don't you send Barack's brother the $20 since you're so concerned. And by the way, how'd you get the inside info on Barack's family matters?

Oh, I see. You just made up that crap.


Posted by: A Good American | September 10, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

AsperGirl, make me dinner.

you and JakeD are the exactly the type of folks who make Balz's point. McCain's team pretends to be all upset about a common turn of phrase and makes it sound like obama was dissing poor gov. palin. did you read the whole quote that makes it obvious that he was talking about change and not gov. palin? no, of course not. you just want to hear what you want to hear and spin it as truth. so sad.

Posted by: AsperGirl is Really Smart | September 10, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Yet more stentorian blather from Balz. If the WaPo doesn't like the way things are:
1. Stop printing smears.
2. Start doing your jobs and start asking real questions.

Oddly enough, both those fit together:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/007986.html

Posted by: 24AheadDotCom | September 10, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler insults Palin by saying John McCain chose a running mate " whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

Those vicious liberal Democrats keep on spewing the hate.

Posted by: JimMF | September 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe Obama called Palin's statement a "foolish diversion". That plays right into the Republican strategy. All it does is reinforce his image as an elitist intellectual.

For better or worse (I believe worse), the American people do not want a calm cool and collected brainiac for President. They don't want someone who seems better than themselves. They want someone who seems like themselves.

Americans don't want nuance. They want Westerns with good guys and bad guys and they want the bad guys to end up shot dead. They want Dirty Harry and Rambo and Die Hard.

I think this will lead to the decline of our country. But telling people they SHOULD demand more sophisticated arguments is a sure way to lose this election. It is like the old saying about arguing with your spouse: do you want to be right or do you want to be married?

If Obama wants to WIN, then he needs to come down from the ivory tower and start FIGHTING. He needs to get ANGRY. He needs to express a sense of outrage. He needs to say over and over that the Republicans are dirty rotten scoundrels and liars who are taking away our civil rights and that America will be a second class country if we elect another Republican President. Palin has energized the conservative base. If Obama cannot energize the Bush-haters, he has no shot.

Posted by: taxguru | September 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

THE OBAMA FAMILY ESTATES

Barack Obama lives in a Georgian mansion with 7 fireplaces that his slumlord, convicted corruption figure buddy, Tony Rezko helped him buy while helping a bagman who was laundering Iraqi oil-for-food program money

Obama's brother George in Kenya is living in a hut on less than a dollar a month. His brother doesn't even have an inside toilet. Obama could practically triple his brother George's annual income by sending him a $20 bill once a year. Or he could buy him an outhouse for twice that much.

Obama spent $6 million to move his one-time acceptance speech to a specially built temple in a coliseum with fireworks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/aug/26/the-inconvenient-obama/

George, who has met his brother only twice, has pictures of his brother that he has torn from newspapers, taped to his wall. He doesn't even have a real, signed picture of Barack.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign is running on distortions, untruths and distractions. The Obama campaign is being accused of being nasty, but not dishonest.

There is a credibility issue that is worth more reporting. The fact that Palin's "I told Congress Thanks but No Thanks" line is being used every single day, when in fact she took every penny they offered, is clear proof that they are not being honest, and they know it. They won't even let the woman speak for herself, off script.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain in 2008
Posted by: Gary | September 10, 2008 4:51 PM
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Hmmmmm... that's kinda like Jews for Hitler in 1932, right?

Posted by: Repubsux | September 10, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

^^^ What if Obama's Conscience Spoke at the Same Time He Did? ^^^
^^^ Annotated transcript of Obama's Nomination Acceptance Speech ^^^

>>"Four years ago, I stood before you and told you my story -- of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to."

--Four years ago, I laid a big one on you out of my fictionalized life story that I made about my drunken, polygamist, already-married Kenyan father who knocked up my then-17-year-old mother and then abandoned us.

>>"It is that promise that has always set this country apart -- that through hard work and sacrifice, each of us can pursue our individual dreams but still come together as one American family, to ensure that the next generation can pursue their dreams as well."

--And where people like me can get ahead on racial preference and affirmative action, so that we advance without ever actually doing anything resembling hard work and sacrifice like you people!

>>"It is why I stand here tonight. Because for 232 years, at each moment when that promise was in jeopardy, ordinary men and women -- students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- found the courage to keep it alive."

--And support my undeserved advancement and also pay for my racial preference scholarships and all the gravy train that has come my way over the years! The donations of millions of african american supporters -- students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- paid my campaign the $6 million that it cost to move my nominating night event from the Pepsi arena to Invesco field in the Temple of Obama!

>>"We meet at one of those defining moments -- a moment when our nation is at war, our economy is in turmoil, and the American promise has been threatened once more."

--And the Democratic party is nominating a president with no experience or qualifications that might make him a credible executive!! I couldn't get hired to run a factory!! Ha Ha!

>>"Tonight, more Americans are out of work and more are working harder for less. More of you have lost your homes and more are watching your home values plummet. More of you have cars you can't afford to drive, credit card bills you can't afford to pay and tuition that is beyond your reach"

--And yet you have sent $400 million to my presidential campaign! That I keep spending on helping the voters get to know me better! As if that's the problem! What suckers!

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In David Mendell's 2007 biography, Obama, it was reported that Obama was a B student whose grades slipped so far below a B at High School that in his final year his grandmother feared he would not get into a university. The chapter ends with him being accepted into Occidental on a full scholarship.

The NYT has published a letter written by Obama in 1990, that discusses his own experiences with affirmative action.

(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/us/politics/03affirmative.html?_r=2&em=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin)

Mr. Obama quote: “[I] undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action” in [my] own academic career.

Posted by: Barack Obama's Conscience | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is showing himself to be more and more like George Bush. Just look at how he's been campaigning.

The selection of Sarah Palin signaled to the Republican Party and Christian Radicals that he's just more of the same.

Everyone has their faults, but McCain and Sarah told some whooper of lies at their convention. McCain, "Obama is going to raise YOUR taxes ( what a lie )." . . . . . . . . . Sarah, "I fought against earmarks, I put a stop to the Bridge to Nowhere."( never even took place )

Moreover, it is now appearent that they are hot after the, "We will control your private lives because of OUR SUPERIOR MORAL AUTHORITY" Christian Radicals. . . . . . . . . Do you want those guys back in office?!

McCain is obviously no maverick, and in addition, he will still be beholding to the Republicans who have screw-up our nation so badly. Just think Freddie and Fannie bailout.

Posted by: Coldcomfort | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Laura C. | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I love the SPIN . THE SPIN HELPS US WIN ... with 53 DAYS TO GO.

Our issues are: culture, race, oil, gender, the supreme court, the 10 commandements and prayer in schools.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ... John McCain and Sarah will win ... and WE GET FOUR MAYBE EIGHT MORE YEARS

Posted by: The Republic | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm serious...Fill up this jar!!

Posted by: Barry Obama | September 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why you folks like Wikipedia. Personally I much prefer Dickipedia, particularly the entry on John McCain.

http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=John_McCain

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

What is Sarah Palin (and John McCain) hiding?

Demand Palin tell the public - and journalists - DIRECTLY what is and isn't true! Why do we get only ONE interview in nearly two weeks? Are they afraid they will be caught in still MORE untruths???

Help show our collective voice with this petition demanding Palin speak to diverse media outlets:

http://www.petitiononline.com/B9AE83R/petition.html

Please: sign, forward and post this petition!

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Posted by: palintothepress | September 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I really like Obama's daughters. Would like to get a piece of that.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

LIST OF LOW-CLASS CLUELESS GAFFES OF
"THE INAPPROPRIATE OBAMAS"

On McCain adding Sarah Palin to his ticket: “Lipstick on a pig” & "it smells like an old fish"

To Hillary saying I'm not as charming as he is: "You're likable enough" (smirk)

"Hold on sweetie"

Dismissing Hillary w/3 am cell phone text message announcing Biden

For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country

America, my grandmother is a "Typical White Person"

Small town America: bitter and cling to religion and guns and antipathy toward people not like themselves

Surge was not a success (we lost the war)

Having an opinion about when a baby acquires rights: above my pay grade says "Constitutional Law Lecturer" Obama

On Iran: a tiny country that cannot hurt us

I have visited 57 states (in America) (OK, this is not low-class but too clueless to be anything but trailer park)

Behold the Obama Presidential Seal on my podium

I'll stop poverty, still rising seas, heal planet, redeem America from its ignorance

The Republicans are going to tell you not to vote for me because I don't look like the presidents on the dollar bills

The Republicans are going to tell you that I'm a Muslim

Americans: cynical, lazy, slobs, downright mean

Germans, I apologize for America

** Oh yeah, Head-of-State and First Lady material **

GO BACK & SIT IN THE PEWS OF YOUR GHETTO TRASH-TALKING TRINITY CHURCH FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!

What makes you think you can spew out sexist slurs & still win?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Then why did Barry and his cult, you included, cry and whine when Lynn Westmoreland used the word "uppity?" The definition of uppity is: affecting an attitude of inflated self-esteem; haughty; snobbish. You hypocritical Obamabots are hilarious.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:44 PM
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Wow. A neocon that knows the definition of actual words. Who woulda thunk it! Your boy could have used you over the last eight years.

Posted by: Repubsux | September 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Kids stop fighting. We have hungry people around the world. Now fill up this jar so that I can buy some food.

Posted by: Barry Obama | September 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Mick Jagger's Lips ... lipstick on a fish ... if "the pig" fits ... let who ever wears it ... keep it. Sarah does not eat pork ... it is against her religion.

Posted by: RighteousOne | September 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama can't get away with calling Angele Merkel a "Ho,", but I'll be Obama's "Ho" anytime he wants.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are killers. They love to kill the American people. They use the health care system: 75,000 people die every year, because the thugs choose profiteering over basic health.

2 friends died and 1 family member nearly did.

"Values"? What a crock.

Killers, I say. Palin and McCain: vote for them to vent your hate on Americans. Let them rub out your friends and family. Go for it, chumps. You know you like to be abused!!

Posted by: dissent | September 10, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

"Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Project for the New American Century. in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings."

Posted by: Jerry | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM
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Right, Wikipedia is credible. Would you like me to edit the article for you?

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

If I'm nasty enough, will Obama consent to spank me?

Gosh, I hope so!

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Your with the president or your with the terrorists.

Do you find such sentiments polarizing?

Posted by: carl lee | September 10, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain in 2008

Posted by: Gary | September 10, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

" We can't beat them [the Democrats ] on the issues, we've got to make bad guys out of them".....Lee Atwater speaking to a group of Republican candidates about 20 years ago. Some things don't change.

Posted by: James Tewes | September 10, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who went to a good college should know you don't use "lipstick on a pig" to refer to people (or in this case the McCain-Palin ticket).

Obama better take his vast team of speechwriters and teleprompter to state dinners & summit meetings if he's elected.

Can't go around calling Angele Merkel a "Ho" or fist-bumping Sarkhozy.

Disgusting and inappropriate. Latest in a long string of gaffes from a pair of 20-year Trinity Church members. They are both unbelievably inappropriate for the status they seek.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

NOBAMA, we're one of you.
And you're one of us, too.
You're invited.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I get a stiffy whenever I see a pig wearing lipstick.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM
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What are you trying to convey with your juvenile post? That you are a sick POS who should seek professional help?

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Palin's "wit and delivery". Ummmm... is that anything like Chuck Norris' acting ability?

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No. In Palin's case it's more like Jena Jameson's acting ability.

Posted by: Chuck Norris | September 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Then why did Barry and his cult, you included, cry and whine when Lynn Westmoreland used the word "uppity?" The definition of uppity is: affecting an attitude of inflated self-esteem; haughty; snobbish. You hypocritical Obamabots are hilarious.

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Nice one.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The highlight of my day is when JakeD and I play footsie between adjoining stalls in the mens room.

Posted by: James T | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM
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Judging from your posts, should we be surprised?

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

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1. Palin had used a very well received lipstick analogy to describe herself as a fighter. It is widely repeated and talked about.

2. Obama is known to be almost surgical in his usage of words. He is very careful and cautious. A thoughtful man. Just a coincidence - give me a break while you are giving him the benefit of doubt.

3. The crowd erupted into shrieks, whoops and cheers just as soon as he said it. Why should they get so delirious if this is not radioactive humor? Yes, the crowd knows what is going on.

McCain used this phrase when talking about Hillary's healthcare plan. Obama basically called Palin a pig in the same way he mocked and insulted Hillary many times but got away because the media is not discouraging him from it. This is a disgrace.

Look at Obama's statement:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years."

Heck, if I were being honest, the guy is clearly saying Old Fish/Pig '08.

And you are letting him get away with it. It's shameful and it's extremely disenchanting.
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One always avoids NY Times and Fox News and comes to Post because it is supposedly balanced. But looking at all your articles/opinion pieces today I am shocked as to how blatantly slanted you are towards Obama. When Bill Clinton called Obama's Iraq war stand "a fairy tale", he was widely viewed (by your newspaper too) as being racist. He was not given the benefit of doubt when he deserved one. Let's look at the context here:

1. Palin had used a very well received lipstick analogy to describe herself as a fighter. It is widely repeated and talked about.

2. Obama is known to be almost surgical in his usage of words. He is very careful and cautious. A thoughtful man. Just a coincidence - give me a break while you are giving him the benefit of doubt.

3. The crowd erupted into shrieks, whoops and cheers just as soon as he said it. Why should they get so delirious if this is not radioactive humor? Yes, the crowd knows what is going on.

McCain used this phrase when talking about Hillary's healthcare plan. Obama basically called Palin a pig in the same way he mocked and insulted Hillary many times but got away because the media is not discouraging him from it. This is a disgrace.

Look at Obama's statement:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years."

Heck, if I were being honest, the guy is clearly saying Old Fish/Pig '08.

And you are letting him get away with it. It's shameful and it's extremely disenchanting.
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Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Boo hoo hoo, Balzy. Cry me a river pal. This is politics!

Posted by: Repubsux | September 10, 2008 4:36 PM
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Then why did Barry and his cult, you included, cry and whine when Lynn Westmoreland used the word "uppity?" The definition of uppity is: affecting an attitude of inflated self-esteem; haughty; snobbish. You hypocritical Obamabots are hilarious.

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One always avoids NY Times and Fox News and comes to Post because it is supposedly balanced. But looking at all your articles/opinion pieces today I am shocked as to how blatantly slanted you are towards Obama. When Bill Clinton called Obama's Iraq war stand "a fairy tale", he was widely viewed (by your newspaper too) as being racist. He was not given the benefit of doubt when he deserved one. Let's look at the context here:

1. Palin had used a very well received lipstick analogy to describe herself as a fighter. It is widely repeated and talked about.

2. Obama is known to be almost surgical in his usage of words. He is very careful and cautious. A thoughtful man. Just a coincidence - give me a break while you are giving him the benefit of doubt.

3. The crowd erupted into shrieks, whoops and cheers just as soon as he said it. Why should they get so delirious if this is not radioactive humor? Yes, the crowd knows what is going on.

McCain used this phrase when talking about Hillary's healthcare plan. Obama basically called Palin a pig in the same way he mocked and insulted Hillary many times but got away because the media is not discouraging him from it. This is a disgrace.

Look at Obama's statement:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years."

Heck, if I were being honest, the guy is clearly saying Old Fish/Pig '08.

And you are letting him get away with it. It's shameful and it's extremely disenchanting.
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Posted by: Media for Obama | September 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

JakeD and James T love to play "Put the Lipstick on the Pig" with me before they double me.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

The media, as exemplified by this column, actively legitimizes Democratic smear attacks day-in and day-out.

Posted by: John C. | September 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

The reckless polarization by John McCain is divisive - but it seems ok with him as long as it promotes his agenda. What would a reckless President McCain do? ..........
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/11/john-mccain-is-general-george-armstrong-custer/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The highlight of my day is when JakeD and I play footsie between adjoining stalls in the mens room.

Posted by: James T | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Let us not forget who fired the first NEGATIVE attack, Senator John McCain, Mr. "Straight-Talk" himself. Yes, Mr. "lets have a respectful campaign on issues", Mr. "I will do as I said I will do. This campaign became negative because Senator McCain allowed it. He succombed to the campaign managers that helped the re-election of George Bush and Dick Cheney. These managers get their cues from Mr. Rove, the most dispicable man in America. Senator Obama has tried all year long to have a "respectful, different, change" campaign. His opponents have not allowed him too. What is he suppose to do, be "swift-boated" like Vietnam veteran John Kerry in 2004?

Senator Obama's on bad plan was to count on the intellect of the American voter thinking that he and she would actually be able to dicipher facts from fiction, continuation of bad policies from good, and new ideas that will probably work verses ideas that have failed. John McCain offers no tax break for the middle class, no real solution to get America off dependence on foreign oil, same old foreign policy, no real solution to improve public schools, the most utilized schools in the nation, affordable - higher education and healthcare for all Americans. Yet, because he added a Governor of a state with the smallest population with an undergraduate degree in communications-journalism and HAPPENS TO BE A WOMAN, America has its tongue out ready to vote for what has to be the second WORST ticket in modern history!

Posted by: CitizenAJ | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Go back to South Side Chicago, trash-talking Misogynist
Go back to South Side Chicago, trash-talking Misogynist
Go back to South Side Chicago, trash-talking Misogynist
Go back to South Side Chicago, trash-talking Misogynist

You can't win the election without white women and we hate you.

What social programming & memes was Obama living with for 20 years after leaving Harvard? So that he gets to the point were he refers to people (a woman!) as a pig with lipstick on it that smells like an old fish?

The social status of women in the memes of Trinity Church:

REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT ON HILLARY CLINTON: SHE AIN'T NEVER BEEN CALLED A NIGGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ-3VG3ush0&feature=related
TOP 20 REV. WRIGHT COMMENTS YOU NEVER SAW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3wh2XT4e8M&feature=related

20 years of social programming and spiritual worship in the activist preacher Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church is enough to deprogram the Harvard-acquired class out of Michelle & Barack Obama.

Do we need the inappropriate, South-Side-Chicago-culture Obamas in the White House as President & First Lady?

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

"Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century.
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And here's what you get when you click the link:

"Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Project for the New American Century. in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings."

Posted by: Jerry | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

My money says that every time AsperGirl posts a comment, twenty Republicans feel their leg tingle, twenty Democrats get elevated blood pressure, and one independent voter swears never to vote Republican again.

Posted by: OfficerMancuso | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Palin's "wit and delivery". Ummmm... is that anything like Chuck Norris' acting ability?

Posted by: Repubsux | September 10, 2008 4:40 PM

I miss the Chuck Norris for Mike Huckabee stuff. Those were the fun days in the campaign cycle.

Posted by: scott032 | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"media picks president this year"

So Balz picked McCain since he's spreading their meme today, correct?

Posted by: John E | September 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I listened to it on youtube and thought nothing of it. I had heard that expression many times before. Obama wasn't even talking about Palin at the time. He was talking about McCain trying to categorize his positions as a change from the last 8 years.

Anyway, let hear what the pig has to say.

Posted by: Bill J | September 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Palin's "wit and delivery". Ummmm... is that anything like Chuck Norris' acting ability?

Posted by: Repubsux | September 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

wake up scott032!!

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM

Sorry, idiocy makes me sleepy...

Posted by: scott032 | September 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

The media, as exemplified by this column, actively legitimizes Republican smear attacks day-in and day-out.

Posted by: John C | September 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

McCain POW could not gain any attention so he decided to use the POLITICS OF DIVISION. SAME PEOPLE who put George in office, Rove, Schmidt and other smearers. But, Obama can fight back. McCain is copying and co-opting" Obama's themes and words, MCCAIN IS SLOW in the head. AS Karl Rove whispered around, Mccain lost his mind in Vietnam. McCain's failed Bush policies are the pig. Howver, since McCain insists that the Pig refers to Palin, McCain said it: Palin is the pig with the lipstick. Appropos!! Unfair to pigs who are kind and gentle.

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama was clearly talking about McCain/Bush policies and their effort to call it change.
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OBAMA: Let's just list this for a second. John McCain says he's about change, too. Except -- and so I guess his whole angle is, "Watch out, George Bush, except for economic policy, health-care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy, and Karl Rove-style politics. We're really gonna shake things up in Washington." That's not change. That's just calling some -- the same thing, something different. But you know, you can -- you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig.
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Anyone trying to say that Obama was making a personal attack on Palin is either lying or just too stupid to know the difference between a personal attack and an attack on policies/ideas.

Posted by: Absolute_OK | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I get a stiffy whenever I see a pig wearing lipstick.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama and the media made Fairy Tale a racist slur.
He waged the most racist sexist campaign in recent American history against Clinton.
My god there are pictures of Hussein giving HRC the finger!

So spare me the poor poor Hussein bs.
He tried playing the race card with McCain, he LIED about the McCain campaign, and he got b slapped for his efforts.

Now Hussein is trying his sexist bs on Palin.
And guess what?
He got slapped down.
And it will happen again and again as long as Hussein plays his racist sexist games.

All anyone has to do is listen to Hussein and his ObaDroids response to his crude remarks. Then the fool is stupid enough to play the "who, me?" game.

Well Surprise Surprise Surprise! Americans aren't falling for it.
So don't go putting lipstick on the sexist racist PIG that is Obama bin Binden.
He needs to apologize NOW!

And what is more despicable and repellent than his latter day
"Well I thought about joining the army but we weren't at war!".
Nobody believes that DemoCr*p.
And nothing could be more insulting to those who did enlist.
And in Obama's crack addled DemoFraud brain his "community organizing" was the equivalent of fighting and dying in Iraq!
What a L O S E R !

Posted by: JamesT | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

BTW, regardless of anyone thinks of the topic (personally, I think it's a classic example of the right-wing distracting people from real issues) the truth is that the McCain camp wins the day because they've controlled the dialogue in the news cycle.

Good for John McCain. Bad for America?

Discuss!

Posted by: scott032 | September 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

MikeMcNally is another angry DEM. blaming the GOP for his personal failures-what a joke!

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Another piece evidence of how right-wing propaganda is meant to keep the dis-informed in check.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccain-palin_distorts_our_finding.html

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Boo hoo hoo, Balzy. Cry me a river pal. This is politics! Always has been, always will be, as it should be! I'm just glad the Dems may finally be "growing a pair" and hitting back hard. No more of that passive Kerry-Gore-Dukakis crap. Heck, they should be throwing the first punch. And the second, and the third, the fourth, etc. Who's gonna vote for someone who won't stomp on the opponent's throat and crush their skull the first time they even blink wrong?!? This is war, buddy! The line is drawn, chose a side.
And who are these "undecideds" anyway? Are you kidding me?! If it is not yet crystal clear to you what a McCain/Palin administration would do as opposed to what an Obama/Biden administration would do, I really feel for you.

Posted by: Repubsux | September 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

What I want to know is when the McCain campaign is going to stop this dog and pony show and start talking about the real issues.

Posted by: returntocommonsense | September 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama can't face Palin in wit or delivery so he has to use some carefully-worded, sleazy slur.

The last time Obama tried to pull this kind of cute sneer was PA, and got slammed there as a hypocrite. He was making a lot of low class diss gestures re: Clinton, like that Jay-Z brushing dirt off his shoulder gesture.

He lost.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The Demacrats aren't going to sit back and let the Republicans continue with their filthy campaign of pure lies this time. Live with it. This is 100% the fault of the Republicans. Period.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

wake up scott032!!

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I may as well confess to all of it: I am a paid operative of the McCain campaign. My job is to post comments in the media under the name of AsperGirl. I did it for the money. I am sooo ashamed.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

This MUST be a polarizing campaign.

We have GOOD (McCain/Palin) vs EVIL (Obama/Biden).

About as polarizing as you can get...

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Dan Balz, this article is just another example of the media attempting to provide "balance." All of this rancor is caused by one side -- the McCain campaign. What do you expect the Obama campaign to do? Sit back and take it?

Also, you state, "Both sides now see themselves as victims." Nonsense. The McCain people don't see themselves as victims -- they're just *playing* as victims, because they think they can stir up faux outrage that way.

Why are you journalists so reluctant to call out one side over the other? Grow a pair already.

Posted by: Jeff | September 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Obama"--------BE SURE TO LISTEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH


Hi, My son, Joe, just did a commercial for John McCain.

Please pass this on.

Thanks
Bob Cook


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Posted by: rtfanning | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow,

AsperGirl,

Senator Obama used the phrase to describe Senator McCain's policies. He did not use it to describe Governor Palin.

JakeD,

I would never apologize to someone like you that uses lies and misdirection to distort the truth. I apologized to the list because I always use the same tag on my postings.

Also, if you watched this on your TIVO, you know very well that Senator Obama used the phrase to describe Senator McCain's policies.

I would be disappointed if Senator Obama changed his conversational style just because people are trying to invent nonsense to distract the electorate from the more important issues we face as a nation. That would be caving in to fools, and the more principled approach is to stand up to fools.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:29 PM

As I again forget to put in my tag...the stupidity of some of these posts is wearing off on me...

Posted by: scott032 | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

LIST OF LOW-CLASS CLUELESS GAFFES OF
"THE INAPPROPRIATE OBAMAS"

On McCain adding Sarah Palin to his ticket: “Lipstick on a pig” & "it smells like an old fish"

To Hillary saying I'm not as charming as he is: "You're likable enough" (smirk)

"Hold on sweetie"

Dismissing Hillary w/3 am cell phone text message announcing Biden

For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country

America, my grandmother is a "Typical White Person"

Small town America: bitter and cling to religion and guns and antipathy toward people not like themselves

Surge was not a success (we lost the war)

Having an opinion about when a baby acquires rights: above my pay grade says "Constitutional Law Lecturer" Obama

On Iran: a tiny country that cannot hurt us

I have visited 57 states (in America) (OK, this is not low-class but too clueless to be anything but trailer park)

Behold the Obama Presidential Seal on my podium

I'll stop poverty, still rising seas, heal planet, redeem America from its ignorance

The Republicans are going to tell you not to vote for me because I don't look like the presidents on the dollar bills

The Republicans are going to tell you that I'm a Muslim

Americans: cynical, lazy, slobs, downright mean

Germans, I apologize for America

** Oh yeah, Head-of-State and First Lady material **

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Pathetic!! Barry has to pick on Palin(VP) since he can't match up to McCain's level. Is Hussein Obama running against Palin or McCain - I'm confused! Barry is a joke!!
Wake up America!!

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama traveled to other countries where nuclear stockpiles are insecure and could fall into the hands of terrorists. He then worked with the Rep. Sen. Lugar on a bipartisan basis to draft legislation on the issue that Bush signed in 2007. The possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists is one of the greatest national security challenges we face as a country, and Obama is taking the lead on it.

But never mind. Republicans continue to push the lie that Palin has just as much foreign policy experience. This is a really sad and scary time in this country's history.

Posted by: trace1 | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon,former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"[
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.

Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search and wikipedia.

Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda. The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about relgion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic survelliance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangalicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.

Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continously for over 30 years. Yes the left has thier own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican admistration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.
Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censhorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The cosilidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever,gridlocked legislature with only two parties for represtation,a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras on street corners. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, icrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

I posted thes comments on other political blogs and I send them to you to use them or do with them as you please. I truly hope that Senator Obama will be able to stem this tide of facism and break this cycle of fear that has beem slowly eroding the American dream.

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The statements made by many of the potential voters during this election season have got me thinking that we need to give an IQ test before we let people vote in this country.

Posted by: supascience | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM

You can thank God they don't or you wouldn't be voting.

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama was content to take the high road when he himself was riding high on waves of narcissism and high self-regard. At the time, when the press thought too highly of him than to do other than praise him to the skies, he had no competition and could afford to be magnanimous. Now he is in a fight against McCain and Palin who do not regard him with awe but with the low regard that a Chicago machine politician deserves. He is no longer reading from a teleprompter and he is clumsy and awkward- in other words, he is himself. It is not a pretty sight.

Posted by: mhr | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

PITBULLS AGAINST PALIN...

We demand that that ugly hateful hockey-mom stop comparing herself to us!

Even with lipstick she is much uglier and more stupid than we pitbulls!

My dog-god! Hockey is such a phony violent sport.

How can hockey-moms subject their pups to such violence?

Dog-fighting is civilized compared to hockey.

PALIN BITES!

PALIN BITES!

PALIN BITES!

http://jamestshirley.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ChipShirley | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I've been completely wrong and I am ashamed of myself for spreading lies and racist innuendo. Please forgive me.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Obama, as he claims, doesn't see what is wrong with his words, is worse than if he did see what is wrong with them and apologized. What kind of rocket scientist does it take to realize that when people are offended, you don't belittle their perceptions?

A person who can't recognize when people are offended isn't ready to be a head of state.

WE DON'T NEED A TRASHY-MANNERED GAFFE MACHINE COUPLE AS HEAD OF STATE AND FIRST LADY CAUSING INTERNATIONAL INCIDENTS

LOW-CLASS CLUELESS GAFFES OF
"THE INAPPROPRIATE OBAMAS"

McCain adding Sarah Palin to his ticket: “Lipstick on a pig” & "it smells like an old fish"

To Hillary saying I'm not as charming as he is: "You're likable enough" (smirk)

"Hold on sweetie"

Dismissing Hillary w/3 am cell phone text message announcing Biden

For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country

America, my grandmother is a "Typical White Person"

Small town America: bitter and cling to religion and guns and antipathy toward people not like themselves

Surge was not a success (we lost the war)

Having an opinion about when a baby acquires rights: above my pay grade says "Constitutional Law Lecturer" Obama

On Iran: a tiny country that cannot hurt us

I have visited 57 states (in America) (OK, this is not low-class but too clueless to be anything but trailer park)

Behold the Obama Presidential Seal on my podium

I'll stop poverty, still rising seas, heal planet, redeem America from its ignorance

The Republicans are going to tell you not to vote for me because I don't look like the presidents on the dollar bills

The Republicans are going to tell you that I'm a Muslim

Americans: cynical, lazy, slobs, downright mean

Germans, I apologize for America

** Oh yeah, Head-of-State and First Lady material **

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

If McCain and the GOP can keep the stupid diversions going, keep people from thinking about the most recent 8 years or the next 4, then they have a chance. His Surge of Nonsense shouldn't be effective...unless there are a lot more idiots around here than I thought. Sure, those who benefit under Bush's tenure have good reason to vote for McCain but how do you explain the rest of his support? Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders? Stockholm syndrome? Manchurian mumbo-jumbo?

Posted by: Serge S Werken | September 10, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that the media might be selecting the president this year...

The media created this "lipstick" hailstorm by twisting the meaning of what Obama said to the GOP's advantage. But, Obama left himself open to this when he didn't repudiate the media when it twisted the meaning of Bill Clinton's statements to make him out as a racist.

Karma?

Posted by: MoVoice | September 10, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The statements made by many of the potential voters during this election season have got me thinking that we need to give an IQ test before we let people vote in this country. The politicians wouldn't continue to sell lies, rumors and innuendos if the American voters weren't too stupid to continue to buy it.
Posted by: supascience | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM
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Historically speaking, donkeys have not fared well on IQ tests.

Posted by: Albert Eyeinstein | September 10, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

As our country was divided before (civil war, civil rights, Viet Nam) we are again. And the hard reality is that we always will be.
And the press is just as guilty as any political parties. They have a 24 hour void to fill, and they just love to fill it with petty simplistic garbage.

How much air time did the press give McCains "celebrity" mud slinging spot, that start that lead to this toxic campaign. Did any it our press have the wisdom to call the McCain campaign on it?
Or was it just to good of a story.

Posted by: Dave D. | September 10, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

If your candidate, Mr. McCain, is so sensitive to perceived sexists slights on his running mate - for using a phrase that he frequently uses himself - perhaps he should tell his running to stop lying about being against the bridge to nowhere or earmarks generally. Alaskans are the biggest "welfare queens" (to quote President Reagan) in the country and Sarah Palin has been leading the pack.

Posted by: Chuck | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Another piece evidence of how right-wing propaganda is meant to keep the dis-informed in check.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccain-palin_distorts_our_finding.html

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

So Palin started this and you're perpetuating and amplifying it.

Nice job, corporate media ... doing GOP dirty work for them.

Posted by: JayBen | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

And now all these comments make the author's point: The partisan disdain for people with differing viewpoints can only lead to more fracturing and entrenched positions. In the end, neither the President nor Congress will be able to govern. Until the American people seek a different way to conduct elections, create public policy, and consultatively solve problems beyond partisanship, we will suffer more of the same. With all the looking back to the Founding Fathers that people do, I wonder that no one notices how much some of those Founding Fathers disliked the very idea of political parties.

Posted by: Bill | September 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad the brilliant orator needs his cult to interpret his statements. We all know what he said and whining, crying and insulting won't change that fact. There is only one person more racist and hateful than Barry and that's Michelle.

Posted by: TRUTH HURTS | September 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow,

AsperGirl,

Senator Obama used the phrase to describe Senator McCain's policies. He did not use it to describe Governor Palin.

JakeD,

I would never apologize to someone like you that uses lies and misdirection to distort the truth. I apologized to the list because I always use the same tag on my postings.

Also, if you watched this on your TIVO, you know very well that Senator Obama used the phrase to describe Senator McCain's policies.

I would be disappointed if Senator Obama changed his conversational style just because people are trying to invent nonsense to distract the electorate from the more important issues we face as a nation. That would be caving in to fools, and the more principled approach is to stand up to fools.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

And the complicit media enables and perpetuates the nonsense. Thanks a lot.

Posted by: Yuri Lipitzmeov | September 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

We are one of the stupidest nations on the face of the earth. Keep it up, GOP. All of our children will be working for Chinese bosses, because the American eejits were distracted by lipstick comments while McBush continued to finance a war with M-A-S-S-I-V-E loans from the Chinese.

But I guess these issues are too big for small minds to comprehend. Lipstick is easier.

Posted by: trace1 | September 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The statements made by many of the potential voters during this election season have got me thinking that we need to give an IQ test before we let people vote in this country. The politicians wouldn't continue to sell lies, rumors and innuendos if the American voters weren't too stupid to continue to buy it.

Posted by: supascience | September 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Barry could be one of the biggest spineless scumbags to run for office. First he makes disparaging remarks that most Americans believe were directed against Palin and probably were. Now the narcissist wants to blame the GOP for his screw up. He says the common people don't know how to interpret him. If Barry is such a brilliant orator and is speaking English, why do we need an interpreter? This is what happens when the messiah does not have a teleprompter. Barry has no shame or clue. His campaign is self imploding. Bye Bye Barry.

Posted by: NOBAMA | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Aspergirl wrote:

The fact that Barack Obama can't get what is wrong with his applying "lipstick on a pig" & "smells like an old fish" to PEOPLE (esp. a woman!) instead of to objects or abstract things (John McCain used the term "lipstick on a pig" to refer to a Clinton policy proposal) means that he doesn't have enough class to be a head of state.

My Comment:
Except, of course, this is a lie on your part. Obama did NOT refer to any person with the line "Lipstick on a Pig". He was referring to McCain policies. This is yet another example of the idea bankrupt McCain campaign seeking to argue personalities not facts.

Repeating a lie over and over again doesn't make it true.
No one in the Clinton campaign or the McCain campaign has been as racially or socially (class) offensive this year as those two gaffe machines, Michelle & Barack Obama.

The fact that Barack Obama can't even see (with so many people offended) what is wrong with him using the metaphors "lipstick on a pig" & "smells like a fish" to PEOPLE (esp. a woman!) means they have been out of Harvard too long & sitting in the rows of ghetto Trinity Church too long (20 years?)

How can they expect to serve as head of state & first lady with their constant insensitive & prejudiced gaffes if they can't even see what is wrong with them after people are offended, and they refuse to apologize?

Barack Obama is NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL & only a trash-talking gaffe machine who would create international incidents & not apologize.

Posted by: AsperGirl

Posted by: Yet More Lies | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Barack Obama can't get what is wrong with his applying "lipstick on a pig" & "smells like an old fish" to PEOPLE (esp. a woman!) instead of to objects or abstract things (John McCain used the term "lipstick on a pig" to refer to a Clinton policy proposal) means that he doesn't have enough class to be a head of state.
_________________________________

He was referring to the fact that John McCain has the same policies as George W. Bush. That's why he said after eight years. Please spare me your outrage.

Posted by: Evil | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I understand this. If BO calls or certainly inferrs that Palin is a pig and says the remark to not be offensive to her but will not apologize Then BO I am calling you a "boy" and I of course do not mean it in the 'offensive' sort of way. Ok! Boy!
Of course Palin's husband might take offense and beat the crap out of you of couurse in a nonoffensive way!

Posted by: K BLIT | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The title of this article is incredibly misleading, implying both candidates are equally responsible?

Its patently obvious that the only one trying to rally the base (i.e. "polarize") this election is McCain. Obama has been reaching out to independents and talking about the issues throughout the entire campaign, while McCain is bringing out the hate/fear/religion brigade. He can't talk policy because he does't have any, and if anybody found out what they were, they would be disgusted.

Posted by: Neil C., Denver, CO | September 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Fuji | September 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

None of this will quiet down until the tpress stops the "feeding frenzy". I want to know where Palin stands on the issues and solutions for our myriad problems. I've already made up my mind whom I'm going to vote for, but I'm looking for reassurance from Palin that will reverse my fear of her coming that close to the Presidency without botching it up.

My views are 180 degrees opposite of hers on most issues, I'm not nuts about guns, the Pentecostal church and her ethics record in Alaska. She also sets a lousy example on how to raise a family and advance a career, but she still has a right to be heard by all of us.

Posted by: Lipstick Barracuda | September 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute. What has Obama done other than defend himself? The worst he has said about John McCain is that he is more of the same. That happens to be true. John McCain has no differences on policy with George W. Bush. If there were he'd talk about them. He doesn't because there aren't any. He has the same economic, foreign, and tax policies. He has the same people working for him. He would appoint the same judeges.

I love how you mention internet attacks coming at Palin. What about all the stuff out there about Obama. Obama has actually denounced the stuff about Palin. McCain refuses to do anything about all the lies being spread about Obama. Hell, his ads are some of the worst things out there.

Posted by: Evil | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Indpendents are running to the Republicans.

Posted by: Fuji | September 10, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Independent:

Perhaps you missed the latest Gallup poll that has McCain up by FIFTEEN POINTS among Independents? No doubt some Reagan Democrats are voting for Obama, but I believe that most of them will end up voting for McCain, the next President of the United States!

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Keep it up, barry!
heh, heh.

Posted by: viejo1 | September 10, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

This is what happens when you have some person who wants to run America who can't stop making clueless, trashy gaffes.

The fact that Barack Obama can't get what is wrong with his applying "lipstick on a pig" & "smells like an old fish" to PEOPLE (esp. a woman!) instead of to objects or abstract things (John McCain used the term "lipstick on a pig" to refer to a Clinton policy proposal) means that he doesn't have enough class to be a head of state.

No one in the Clinton campaign or the McCain campaign has been as racially or socially (class) offensive this year as those two gaffe machines, Michelle & Barack Obama.

The fact that Barack Obama can't even see (with so many people offended) what is wrong with him using the metaphors "lipstick on a pig" & "smells like a fish" to PEOPLE (esp. a woman!) means they have been out of Harvard too long & sitting in the rows of ghetto Trinity Church too long (20 years?)

How can they expect to serve as head of state & first lady with their constant insensitive & prejudiced gaffes if they can't even see what is wrong with them after people are offended, and they refuse to apologize?

Barack Obama is NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL & only a trash-talking gaffe machine who would create international incidents & not apologize.

Posted by: AsperGirl | September 10, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Dale wrote, "obama is the MOST LIBERAL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EVER TO RUN".

That's false no matter how you define "liberal". Should you define it as "willing to limit the freedoms of business and steeply tax the wealthy", Franklin Delano Roosevelt has never had an American equal. If you define it as "opposing foreign military intervention", George McGovern wins the prize.

Posted by: OfficerMancuso | September 10, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

THE REAL CAUSE OF THE PALIN PHENOMENON

Obama, the liberal pagan media, and to some extent even McCain, are blind to the true nature of the Palin Phenomenon.

The Palin Phenomenon is not just that she is female, or a mother, or even a conservative.

No, the tRue force of the Palin Phenomenon is that she is a fundamentalist Christian.

She is the real deal, not perfect by any means, but the genuine article. And other Christians instinctively know this beyond a doubt.

While Obama is worried about those voters who respond to pollsters that they will vote for Obama but will not actually because he is African American,

What Obama should be worried about is the number of African Americans he has taken for granted who will put Christian identity above racial identity in the voting booth.

Obama is starting to realize this.

Yesterday he whined about not challenging his faith.

This was necessary since Obama made a mistake and stated his "Muslim faith" on live tv Sunday on ABC.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 10, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

scott032:

No need to apologize. That is the exact quote we heard (did you hear the crowd roar?). Are you claiming that Obama called someone an "old fish" during the primary too? After all this dust-up, if tomorrow Obama again says: "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig" will you agree he's referring to Palin? What if he says: "You can put lipstick on a pig and have her sit down with Charlie Gibson. It's still a pig"?

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Bingo and Thank you. More division same old 2 party crap. Vote Independent.

Posted by: Tom | September 10, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Jake, IronComments is quite correct. Palin is Big Brother in a skirt.

Posted by: DFC102 | September 10, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Independents now are becoming democrats.
Independents now are becoming democrats.
Independents now are becoming democrats.
Independents now are becoming democrats.
Independents now are becoming democrats.

Posted by: Independent | September 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Why can't we just an election about the issues? This is disgusting. And both sides are guilty- both sides!

Posted by: dcp | September 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain learned phoney outrage from JakeD

Posted by: bgjd1979 | September 10, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

Your comment becomes no less ignorant for your having TIVO'd it. I too have a DVR, and use it well.

Senator Obama's entire quote was:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years."

Also note, Senator McCain described Senator Clinton's policies with the exact same metaphor last fall, and I wouldn't claim that he was being sexist. He, like Senator Obama was quoting an "old salt" (one that I've heard thousands of times having grown up in the Midwest).

The silly little Republicans don't get to cry that every phrase with the word lipstick applies to Governor Palin just because she has admitted she's little more a dog covered over with it (which I would think would be an insult to the many wonderful hockey mothers out there who do NOT liken themselves to dogs).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:48 PM

I apologize for forgetting to put in my usual identifier.

Posted by: scott032 | September 10, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

JakeD,

Your comment becomes no less ignorant for your having TIVO'd it. I too have a DVR, and use it well.

Senator Obama's entire quote was:

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years."

Also note, Senator McCain described Senator Clinton's policies with the exact same metaphor last fall, and I wouldn't claim that he was being sexist. He, like Senator Obama was quoting an "old salt" (one that I've heard thousands of times having grown up in the Midwest).

The silly little Republicans don't get to cry that every phrase with the word lipstick applies to Governor Palin just because she has admitted she's little more a dog covered over with it (which I would think would be an insult to the many wonderful hockey mothers out there who do NOT liken themselves to dogs).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

wow outside the box, good job stating that LIBERALS ARE DEMOCRATS and CONSERVATIVES ARE REPUBLICANS what an amazing outside of the box concept.

on the other hand obama is the MOST LIBERAL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE EVER TO RUN.

whilst john mccain tho running on a conservative ticket, has a record of standing up and being counted. no he doesnt vote with democrats a ton of the time, but he knows when to fight a battle, and when to let democrats feel like they are winning with a mediocre legislation.

lets put it simple and clear, john mccains record of voting is in line with 90% of republicans ideology, whilst obama's is a record of 97% in line with his partisan beleifs.

not only that but various statements by obama, including claiming that sarah palin "mocked the constitution" prove that he is as EXTREMIST as his reverend and farrakhan who called him "messiah".

if you wanna get into a debate over how partisan mccain is, its as stupid as arguing that sarah palin has no experience, it will backfire in your face every time.

Posted by: dale | September 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

A SOCK PUPPET WITH LIPSTICK IS STILL A...

OR, THE WASHINGTON PRESS CORPS AS DUPES


While the media dwells on pigs and pitbulls and lipstick, Sarah Palin is being briefed on world and national affairs by a team of right-wing neo-cons led by the likes of Randy Scheunemann and other neo-conservative "Project for a New American Century" all-stars.

Where are the stories in the mainstream media about the neo-cons who appear to have muscled John McCain to put this right-wing ideologue on the ticket?

Posted by: Outside the Box | September 10, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

scott032:

Perhaps you weren't there -- there's this new thing called TiVo if you need to see it yourself -- my wife and I both heard Obama with our own four ears.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

WHY CAN'T THE RUPUBS.FIND OSAMA BIN LADEN
THEY FOUND SADDAM EASILY AND HANGED HIM
FOR HIS COUNTRY OIL,BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO FIND OSAMA,HE IS THEIR BEST TOOL
TO KEEP THE FEAR FACTOR GOING,SO THAT THE REPUBS CAN CONTINUE TO SELL THE BOOEYMAN
HYPE.I AM STARTING TO FEEL LIKE 911 WAS
A INSIDE JOB,HOW CAN ONE MAN AVOID CAPTURE
FROM BUSH AND MCSAME FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS
THEIR BEEN RUMORS THAT HE WAS SEEN AT
THE YANKEE AND RED SOX'S GAME LAST SUMMER.

Posted by: PAIN LIN | September 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

wait a second, the liberally polarized Washington post is complaining about polarization?

seriously, why is it that democrats always figure out the problems and then blame everyone else for those problems which they first created?

in the words of thomas moore "if you suffer your people to be ill educated, and their manners corrupted from infancy, and then punish them for that which their first education disposed them, what is to be concluded but that you first make thieves and then punish them."

as long as we condone the idea of abortion, and corrupt people from the time they are teenagers to beleive that another's life is less important than their own, they will never grow up to propose that another's life is worth more than their own.

Posted by: dale | September 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Real issues"? Obama called Palin "a pig with lipstick"!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 2:56 PM

John McCain approves this message.

(irrespective of its level of ignorance)

Posted by: scott032 | September 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"Both seem committed to trying to govern in a less partisan way if they are elected."
What campaign are you watching? While McCain mouthed the words of bipartisanship in his acceptance speech, those words were at odds with the overall tone of the convention, especially with the words of Palin the day before. McCain is veering to the right in this election, as we see from his last-minute selection of Palin over the more moderate Lieberman. While he might have hopes of bipartisanship in office, McCain will continue his scorched-earth campaign until the election. Makes you want to yell ENOUGH!

Posted by: Harrisco | September 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Just more hot air from the press which has consistently shirked it's responsibility to inform the public adequately. what hippocrits!!!The press in this country is garbage so how can you expect the people to decide intelligently? Garbagein...Garbage out.

Posted by: Carlton | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Balz:

What do you think of the Palin electric chair "gag" pulled from the MTV Awards show?

Remember that it was John McCain and Hillary Clinton who pledged the most civil campaign in U.S. political history -- the DNC had other plans -- Obama's biggest mistake will be not selecting her as VP.

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

HOW-DEE DO-DEE BOYS AND GIRLS@

Maybe the media should concentrate on revealing who the puppeteers are...

...rather than on whether the puppets wear lipstick.

Posted by: scrivener | September 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

In recent weeks, John McCain and the Republican party have blatantly and without any shame adopted the Democratic campaign theme of “change”. It should be evident to an objective observer that Bush 43 and now McCain and Pailin are mere puppets to the true Republican national party leaders who control their strings. Cheney is one of the few of that inner cabal that have been calling the shots since the Nixon administration. They are in fact a continuation of the Nixon and Ford presidencies with only a disruption during the Carter and Clinton years. Bush 41( Head of the RNC during Nixon,former head of the CIA,VP to Reagan, and president is probably the real leader of this political Cosa Nostra if not a equal partner of this power sharing musical chairs game. His right and left hands have been Dick Cheney(former Sec.of Defense of Bush 41, former White House Chief of staff for Ford) and the other is Donald Rumsfeld(former Sec. of Defense for Ford and Bush 43,former special envoy to the Middle East during Reagan). Another member of this group, more likely a captain if not a full blown boss himself is James Baker (former C.O.S of Reagan, former Under Sec. of Commerce for Ford, former C.O.S and Sec of State for Bush 41, former Sec. of Treasury for Reagan, former chief legal advisor to Bush 43). Another captain or free lance enforcer is Karl Rove a college drop out and campaign manager for both Bush 41 and 43, also for Phil Gram who is McCain’s economic advisor.
Lets look at McCain’s staff of change.
On July 2, 2008, Steve Schmidt was given "full operational control" of McCain's campaign. Steve Schmidt prior to this was a top aide to Dick Cheney and a protégé to Karl Rove. Another advisor is Charles R. Black worked for Ronald Reagan's two Presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980 and he was a senior political adviser to the 1992 re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. Another advisor is Randy Scheunemann. He was project director for the Project for the New American Century. A neo-conservative think tank founded by non other than Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Bill Kristol and others in 1996. Other signatories to this group reads like a who’s who of the last 8 years of the republican administration. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century.
These people have never cared about small town america or “values” All they care about is war profiteering. Many of the signatories have never served in the military. Cheney and Rove both dodged the draft. Look at the statement of principles by the PNAC. Rumsfeld was a good friend of Saddam Huessin in the 80’s Cheney didn’t want Nelson Mandela free. These are the real puppet masters, they throw out the talking points about the left of being elitist and not caring about middle america and these same guys other than Rove have advanced degrees and are worth no less than 10 million dollars. People who support them need to extricate their heads out of Limbaugh and Hannity’s asses and see what is really happening to them. McCain is not his own man he confuses stories of his real life with a book he read “The Gulag Archipelago", in which a fellow prisoner - not a guard - silently drew a cross in the dirt with a stick.” An ironic twist to all this is Eliot A. Cohen, a signatory to the PNAC "Statement of Principles", responded in The Washington Post: "There is no evidence that generals as a class make wiser national security policymakers than civilians. George C. Marshall, our greatest soldier statesman after George Washington, opposed shipping arms to Britain in 1940. His boss, Franklin D. Roosevelt, with nary a day in uniform, thought otherwise. Whose judgment looks better?"[
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2581086/John-McCain-accused-of-plagiarising-Wikipedia-for-speeches.html. Even if you don’t like Obama there is no-way a sane person can want this continued blatant fleecing of our Nation.

Thes are all verifiable facts and can be found just with a google search and wikipedia.

Other than the ultra affluent, how can anyone support the Republican party? When will small town America realize that they are being duped into supporting the ultra-affluent agenda. The talking points of the right are so hypocritical that it becomes laughable. The red meat of the right is the so called Main stream Media as if Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. are not part of it. They demean celebrity status, however they tout one of their greatest presidents(Reagan) was an actor. They say they are the party of patriotism, yet many of the upper echelon of the party have never served, i.e. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Baker, Reagan. They say that they care about "Main Street" USA but only bail out the Whales of Wall Street. Yet small town America eat this tripe every year. They don't care about relgion unless it can be used to stir up the base, nor science or technology unless there is a buck to be made. Small town America takes pride on its freedom but yet don't realize that over time we are becoming less free, ie wire tapping and other forms of domestic survelliance. They demean people of intelligence because they know many people of small town America don't have degrees and use it at a fake issue and call people who spent time in academia as elitist when many on the right serve on university boards and have part-time professorships. They say they are against affirmitive action but yet celebrate mediocrity, Bush43 and McCain graduating at the bottom of their classes. Who both came from already well established families and had all the opportunities and connections to excel. Why does small town America believes this is the party for them? Christian conservatives seem to the be the first ones who want to go to war and bomb someone before any diplomacy is tried. Why can't small town America and Christian conservatives realize they are being used as pawns just as much the Islamic fundamentalist are. Islamic fundamentalist come from small town Middle East and given the same kind of talking points as the evangalicals. They want prayer in school, no choice available to women, and believe to the core that their ideas about worship and country are the best. Wake up small town America you are being duped.

Talking about who is more patriotic, symbols, lipstick and wearing pins are nothing more than distractions to the real issue of how a few select group of people have held power almost continously for over 30 years. Yes the left has thier own political power groups but none have been so effective at pushing forward an agenda that is fundamentally bad for the U.S. and in a larger view the entire world. I stress again the now defunct PNAC and the AIPAC have been slowly pushing us closer to another World War. Bush41 and et al have been doing this and no one calls them on it. Every Republican admistration has basically the same people recycled since Nixon. Just do a little research and you will see that these people are just pushing this agenda of some kind of Pax Americana and not taking into account that maybe other nations of the world might not like that and if not bomb them.
Many people who support the Republican party, really need to read "1984" by George Orwell and see how we as nation have been inching closer to that type of society. People think this story is about a communist society, but it is more about how a society is kept in a constant state of fear in order for the ruling class to stay in control. Doublespeak, patriotism to the point of frenzy, censhorship, erosion of civil liberties (not respecting the Constitution) is happening right in front of us. The cosilidation of government (the executive branch has never been more powerful than ever,gridlocked legislature with only two parties for represtation,a judiciary that just kowtows to the executive branch). No real independent journalism. Cameras on street corners. This may sound like delusional conspiracy stuff, but I implore people to research for themselves to really see what is happening to them. People think this could never happen here in the U.S. but all this has already happening, slowly, icrementally all under the guise of "keeping America safe"

I posted thes comments on other political blogs and I send them to you to use them or do with them as you please. I truly hope that Senator Obama will be able to stem this tide of facism and break this cycle of fear that has beem slowly eroding the American dream.

Posted by: IronComments | September 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

"Real issues"? Obama called Palin "a pig with lipstick"!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 10, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

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