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Palin Turns to NYT, Citing Article on Ayers

By Juliet Eilperin
It turns out GOP vice presidential nominee does like the mainstream media after all -- at least, when it's publishing unflattering stories about Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

At a fundraiser this morning in Englewood, Colo., Palin cited an article in today's New York Times as evidence that Obama "sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country." The Alaska governor was referring to William Ayers, one of the founding members of the Weathermen and someone who once served on a charitable board with Obama in Chicago. The group conducted bombings in the 1960s in protest of the Vietnam War; Obama has denounced Ayers' involvement in the group.

"Well, I was reading my copy of today's New York Times and I was really interested to read about Barack's friends from Chicago," Palin told the crowd. "Turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol.' These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes. This is not a man who sees America as you and I do -- as the greatest force for good in the world. This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country. This, ladies and gentlemen, has nothing to do with the kind of change anyone can believe in -- not my kids and not your kids."

In fact, both a Washington Post article in April and today's New York Times piece revealed Obama and Ayers to have had only a casual association: the former radical hosted a coffee for Obama's first bid for state Senate, they served together on an educational charity board and both live in Chicago's Hyde Park.

Obama has taken pains to minimize their connection, calling Ayers "somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know" and "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight."

Palin's comments come as aides to GOP presidential nominee John McCain are rolling out a series of negative attacks against Obama in an effort to make up some of the political ground McCain has lost in recent weeks.

The Obama campaign quickly countered Palin's comments by suggesting McCain's campaign was engaging in the same kind of negative attacks against Democrats that Bush's allies launched four years ago.

"Governor Palin's comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaign's statement this morning that they would be launching Swiftboat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation's economic ills," said Obama-Biden spokesman Hari Sevugan in a statement.

"In fact, the very newspaper story Governor Palin cited in hurling her shameless attack made clear that Senator Obama is not close to Bill Ayers, much less 'pals,' and that he has strongly condemned the despicable acts Ayers committed 40 years ago, when Obama was eight. What's clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy."

Posted at 4:10 PM ET on Oct 4, 2008  | Category:  Sarah Palin
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Does Gang Violence Qualify as Terrorism?

Gov. Palin has been warning us of the danger of electing a President who "Pals around with terrorists..."

I would ask Gov. Palin how she feels about the military recruiting policies which John McCain has actively supported since 2003, and who her son may be forced to pal around with as a consequence. She might want to consider the experience of another Mom with a son in our military, Stephanie Cockrell, as reported by CBS News:

(CBS) U.S. Army Sgt. Juwan Johnson got a hero's welcome while home on leave in June of 2004.

"Not only did I love my son - but my god - I liked the man he was becoming," his mother, Stephanie Cockrell, remembers.

But that trip home was the last time his family saw him alive. When Johnson died, he wasn't in a war zone, he was in Germany.

"He had finished his term in Iraq," his mother said. "I talked to him the day before his death. He said, 'Mom, I'm in the process of discharging out. I'll be out in two weeks'."

On July 3, 2005, Sgt. Johnson went to a park not far from his base in Germany to be initiated into the 'Gangster Disciples,' a notorious Chicago-based street gang. He was beaten by eight other soldiers in a "jump-in" - an initiation rite common to many gangs.

"My son never spoke of joining a gang," Cockrell told CBS News correspondent Thalia Assuras. Johnson died that night from his injuries. His son, Juwan Jr., was born five months later.

(link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/28/eveningnews/main3107316.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3107316)

Since 2003, the military has granted 'moral waivers' to over 125,000 enlistees. Those waivers have been, in most cases, for serious criminal activity, including significant numbers of convicted felons, many of them gang members. The FBI conducted an investigation into this subject, and here are highlights from it's report:

-- Gang-related activity in the US military is increasing and poses a threat to law enforcement officials and national security. Members of nearly every major street gang have been identified on both domestic and international military installations.

-- Some gang members may also enlist to receive weapons, combat, and convoy support training; to obtain access to weapons and explosives; or as an alternative to incarceration. Such military training could ultimately result in more organized, sophisticated, and deadly gangs, as well as an increase in deadly assaults on law enforcement officers.

-- Gang incidents involving active-duty personnel on or near US military bases nationwide include drive-by shootings, assaults, robberies, drug distribution, weapons violations, domestic disturbances, vandalism, extortion, and money laundering.

(http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/ngic_gangs.pdf)

As I read this body of facts, I wonder about the scope of the damage which has been done to this country since 9/11 by our own ill-considered initiative in Iraq. If the larger goal was to deter terrorism, why are we providing combat training to thousands of gang members, and providing them access to our most sophisticated weaponry? Even more insidious, for any ordinary American contemplating enlisting in the military, the prospect of serving with comrades in arms who are also Crips, Bloods, or members of the 'Gangster Disciples' would, in my opinion, be reason enough to opt out, regardless of any other incentives there might be.

If Gov. Palin insists on continuing to warn us away from Senator Obama because of his casual association with Mr. Ayers, I think she owes us an explanation as to why we should support a candidate who's policies over the last 5 years have materially increased the potency of domestic gangs to terrorize neighborhoods all over this country.

Posted by: thomas777 | October 8, 2008 8:09 AM

This is so shameful! Personal attacks should turn everyone off to the candidates! I hope that the candidates explain what their plan is to get our country back on track in the next two debates.

Posted by: papaedde | October 6, 2008 6:45 PM

Dear Sarahcide Palingate:
We must take our country back from Ali Mohammad McCain and Osama Bin Palin! My Friends..If they want to play the blame game with silly tactics flavored with racial overtones and list Barack Obama's name with terrorists, muslims, thugs, resko/ayres fibs, anti-hillary accusations, & flag pins; We must demand the following GOP/McCraziac issues come to the forefront and be answered in the media:
~Keating 5 www(dot)KeatingEconomics(dot)com
~Fundamental Deregulator
~Deregulation of Social Security
~Deregulation of HealthCare
~Enron Loophole
~100 Year War Monger & $Trillions$ Spent On Iraqi War
~Vicki Iseman
~Brokaw/McCain Friendship
~Infidelity/Adultery
~Anti-Catholic
~Tax Break Elimination
~Voted Against Equal Pay & Equal Rights For Our Mothers, Sisters, Daughters, Grandmothers, Nieces, Aunts, Wives, & Girlfriends
~Temperament-Erraticsism, Is There A Blood Relation Between McCraziac & Bill-Had-Sex-With-A-Show-Intern-O'Reilly ?
~McCain Campaign Lobbyist ie. Rick Davis & 169 more Lobbyists
~Andrew McCain + Nevada based Silver State Bank
~Andrew McCain + CMKM Diamonds,better known as CMKX
~Palingate/Troopergate Criminal Investigation
~Palin's REV.THOMAS MUTHEE Witchdoctor Video
~Betrayus With A Surge To Nowhere In Iraq
~US Council For World Freedom; Radical, Dangerous & Racist Organization
~Voted Against Veteran Benefits At Home
~4th Stage Cancer
~Anheuser Busch(Budweiser)Cindy Mccain #1 National Debate Sponsor
~*Straight Talk America PAC, *Altria Group, *American Issues Project, *National Campaign Fund, *Vets For Freedom
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

McCain Campaign Has Strong Ties To Corporate Lobbyists At Center Of Bailout
www(dot)thinkprogress(dot)org/2008/09/22/mccain-campaign-lobbies-bailou

McCain on Special Interest, Lobbyists and DC Sleaze—What you should remember
www(dot)personals(dot)nymag(dot)com/blog/1069/post_78180.html?dcb=personals(dot)nymag(dot)com

Media advance myth of McCain as lobbyist foe
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the McCAIN BUSH GRAMM foreclosure plan: called BIG BANK BAILOUT (4 more years of BUSH PILLAGE?)
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AND YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THE UNETHICAL THEFT THAT MCCAIN HAS PULLED OVER THE EYES OF ALL THE LOW INFORMATION AMERICANS THAT WILL VOTE FOR HIM. IT IS DISGUSTING!

Posted by: wyattobamanation | October 6, 2008 2:20 PM

D STUDENT OBSCENELY RICH WALL STREET OILLLLLL MILLIONAIRE CRASH EVERY PLANE MCCAIN WAS A D STUDENT,AND GRADUATE LAST IN HIS CLASS.
MCCAIN,AND MCBUSH WALL STREET OILLLLL MILLIONAIRE SHARE FAILED ACADEMIC RECORDS

IRISH AMERICAN AND HAVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA WORKED HARD,AND BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE HAVARD LAW REVIEW.

D STUDENT OBSCENELY RICH WALL STREET OILLLLLL MILLIONAIRE CRASH EVERY PLANE MCCAIN IS ALSO INTERNET ILLITERATE,WHICH SLOW DOWN HIS INFORMATION PROCESSING CAPACITY.
IS THIS GOOD FOR AMERICA!

IRISH AMERICAN BARACK OBAMA'S HAVARD SCHOLARSHIP RANKS AMONG THE BEST.
IRISH AMERICAN AND HAVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA HARD WORK REPRESENT THE AMERICAN DREAM.

TIME TO RETIRE WITH WHATEVER IS LEFT OF YOUR DIGNITY,MONSIEUR NCCAIN.

OBAMA BIDEN 08!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 6, 2008 1:29 PM

All these attacks on Obama are just to distract you from the real pressing issue that McCain is losing on, the economic crisis.

The breaking news on CNN tells the real story...

"Dow plummets more than 300 points, falling below 10,000 for the first time in nearly 4 years, as anxiety over global slowdown grows."

It is curious why all these old Obama attacks that date back months if not years are just coming up now. I suspect McCain/Palin want to make this race about anything but the economy.

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 6, 2008 12:22 PM

Man, I can't wait until November 5, 2008 when Palin is on a coach ticket back to Alaska. The sooner this traitor hops a plane back, the better. Her husband belonged to the Alaskan Independence Party, who's aim was to seceed from the nation. That's basically treason. Their leader is outspoken about it. Obama's sitting on an education board with Ayers is hardly a "palling around" association. If Ayers WAS so terrible, why isn't he in jail? Why is he a professor at a university? Why is he sitting on education boards? I mean, this whole negative campaign strategy the McCain campaign is using (not new since his ads from August if everyone remembers) is DESPERATE and PATHETIC. Good bye Sarah Palin. Good bye Senator McCain. Troopergate is in full swing. McCain is grumpy, out of touch, and opportunistic, and the nation now sees them for what they are...clowns without hope.

Obama/Biden '08.

Posted by: iluvkmart | October 6, 2008 10:30 AM

ACCEPTING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ASSOCIATES OF KNOWN TERRORISTS?

The Ayers-Weber-McCain connection. Truth? Guilt by Association? We report. YOU Decide!

Arnold R. "Arnie" Weber is a Chicago Annenberg Board Member and Chicago "insider". He was an Assistant Secretary of Labor and Associate Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Richard Nixon. Arnie Weber, has held other Washington "insider" jobs, was former president of the Commercial Club of Chicago’s Civic Committee, and is a longtime REPUBLICAN donor. Arnie Weber was a member of the infamous **Chicago Annnenberg Challenge** Board, which was founded by known "TERRORIST" Bill Ayers!

Sarah "Barracuda" Palin was pointing out the "guilt by association" connection with Senator Barack Obama, a member of the same board. This, however, is a two way street and Ms. Palin may not understand this. The simple fact is, BY PALIN'S OWN DEFINITION, John McCain has accepted "tainted" campaign money from Arnie Weber, an associate of Bill Ayers.

Arnie Weber has given the legal limit of $1,500 to the McCain campaign in 2008. It's true! In 2008, Arnie Weber made two separate donations of $1,000 and $500 to McCain’s presidential campaign run by ex-lobbyist RICK DAVIS.

I strongly urge Senator McCain to renounce this man and his "terrorist associates", and to reject these donations. John McCain should investigate how such a thing could possibly happen inside his own campaign before seeking to cast stones at Senator Obama. RICK DAVIS needs to explain to the American voters his reasons for accepting this money. Are they really that desperate?

THE "LIBERAL MEDIA" SHOULD ASK JOHN MCCAIN WHY HE ACCEPTED TAINTED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THIS "TERRORIST" ASSOCIATE. Arnie Weber doesn't deny that he associated for years with a "known terrorist". This is probably because he hasn't been asked.

It turns out that these types of "facts" are simply baseless smear attacks with no merit. They are meant to distract the less informed voters near the end of a campaign. You don't hear about them very often because most people want to talk about REAL issues affecting REAL lives, not play "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon".

For example, it turns out that you can trace Obama's family tree to both George W. Bush (10th cousins once removed) and Dick Cheney (eighth cousins). This is yet another useless "fact" for Trivial Pursuit, but not worthy of time in this national election. Guilt by association is an attack on voters and on the democratic process. Voters need to learn about the issues.

Some associations, however, do need scrutiny. RICK DAVIS is worth talking about. Why? If a person is running the campaign and at the same time is profiting financially as a lobbyist, the American voter has a right to know the details. The information on RICK DAVIS is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Davis_%28politics%29

HERE IS A MAN THAT MADE MILLIONS AS A WASHINGTON LOBBYIST. This guy is a caricature of the very thing that John McCain claims over and over again that he "hates". EARMARKS ANYONE? Rick Davis PRACTICALLY INVENTED EARMARKS. He launched his lobbying career straight from a Reagan White House job! McCain calls that "revolving door" politics. Now RICK DAVIS is CEO for the McCain presidential campaign.

How can we believe John McCain is against wasteful government spending after learning about his campaign manager?

Posted by: wunderwood | October 6, 2008 9:20 AM

Harried:

You suggest McCain has bombed more innocent people than Ayers. This is dangerous because those people that support McCain and his ilk can jump on statements like that to show complicity between Obama supporters and "etremism".

That is why I have so far kept my mouth shut about certain things. The real extremists will pounce.

But what the heck, why not.

Today we refer to our boys in uniform in Iraq as heros. How kids sitting behind video game like computers that shoot off rockets to kill both innocent people and combatants can be referred to as courageous and heros is beyond me.

We ask the enemy to come out and fight like men. This is laughable. Why should they come out into the street? To be blasted by missiles shot off from a distance?

Same for McCain and his kind that bombed and killed between 2 and 3 million Viet Namese during the VN war. Calling these people heros is beyond me. Still today thousands of children are born with birth defects consequent to having been bombarded by things like Agent Orange. Tens of thousands suffering still from the consequences thereof.

Now i understand many soldiers were actually led to believe they were doing something for the good of the world, and allowed themselves to be led by the nose but ruthless politicians who never sent THEIR sons to the front lines. Up in planes and dropping napalm yes, with the occasionally unlucky pilot shot down. But in general safe from the pistol and machine gun fire below.

McCain was shot down and remained a prisoner of war. That he was not executed is miraculous. How the Viet Namese showed restraint faced a man who was killing their women and children is beyond me. Of course, POW's were also bargaining chips.

But think of how the suspected Viet Cong were rounded up, even sympathizers and systematically murdered by our troops and the South Vietnamese troops we trained to do exactly that.

And now referring to McCain as a hero is nonsensical. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and believing he did not collaborate to remain alive (which is not in fact 100% sure, he refuses to allow access to his files) he is at best a survivor, and was, again at best a strong man. Hats off to him in that case!

But how can he be a hero? He did not ask to remain a prisoner of war. It was not his choice at all. If he had had his way he would have again been flying the skies napalming "mostly" innocent people in an attempt to bring a population NOT SUPPORTIVE of your presence to it knees.

He is in no way a hero. His situation was imposed on him. he had no choice. Heroism is an act of choice, of sacrifice. Again, he did not suddenly say oh, I will save the lives of those other three pilots by getting myself shot down and risking my life as a prisoner of war.

His entire aura of war hero is something he wears dishonestly. he did nothing OF HIS OWN FREE WILL to merit being considered a war hero. NOTHING.

The war hero is the guy who throws himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades, or the lives of innocents.

The hero is the one who stands up against orders and is under court martial for not having slain innocent villagers when ordered to do so by men such as those at My Lai.

The hero is the one who refused military induction and went to prison or fled abroad to avoid being sent to a war he knew in his heart to be one of mass murder on behalf of the real criminals that wanted to sent him there....

And the real American is the one who says NO when he is under pressure by his superiors to do something he knows to be wrong.

To stand up for one's beliefs, that, in my opinion is being a true American. Risking your own reputation in the eyes of others, your freedom, your future and maybe even your life...to do the right thing.

McCain is NO HERO!

Posted by: ronn2 | October 6, 2008 5:03 AM

Jon Voight Accuses Obama of everything under the sun in a rant on fox. http://www.HuckabeeShow.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 6, 2008 1:35 AM

Palling around with people who don't see America the way you and I do? Check the mirror, Sarah.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/politics/04party.html?ref=politics
Posted by: brainmaps

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Palling around?
Is Sarah dead?

PS Did you know that Frank Zappa attacked Sarah Palin back in the early 80's?
Go listen to his song, Valley Girl to see what I mean.

Posted by: edlharris | October 6, 2008 12:06 AM

Sarah Palin talked about the 18 million cracks Hillary Clinton put on the glass ceiling for women during the RNC convention. It is more than a month after that and so far I haven't heard a single issue related to women she is planning to solve. All that hope women had when they heard the republicans had chosen a woman as the vp candidate evaporated right after the RNC convention. Why is Sarah Palin not talking about women's issues? Just calling herself a hacky mam does not help women. If she is going to be in a powerful post like a vp, she better address some of the issues and tell the American women what she is going to contribute to better our lives.
Here's an advice for you Sarah. Stop taking the low road to the white house. There is a chance of getting drowned on the way. Stay on the high road, Talk about issues that you can solve. Stop belittling the opponents. Tell us about what you are capable of.

Posted by: MaryHiggins1 | October 5, 2008 11:07 PM

It is surprising that only a week ago Sarah Palin couldn't name a single magazine or newspaper she reads, even after Katie Couric gave her enough time to think about it and asked her repeatedly. All of a sudden this week she is reading New York Times. Or is somebody else writing the cue cards for her to parrot in front of an audience. it is sickening to see Sarah Palin spending her time doing character assassination rather than telling the country what the McCain/Palin team has in store for this country. Sarah Palin should be very careful about such dubious associations since McCain has far more skeletons in his closet. There is well documented eveidence about McCain's association with convicted felon Charles Keating. Not only was McCain associated with the Keatings, his wife Cindy and his father-in-law were also involved with the Keatings. They were all engaged in a big financial scandal in the 80s.

Posted by: MaryHiggins1 | October 5, 2008 10:55 PM

Palin's husband was a member of a society which advocated Alaska's secession from the United States of America. Does that mean she was aiding and abetting this group?
Does that make her an associate of someone who advocated treason?

Posted by: seemstome | October 5, 2008 10:41 PM

Arnold R. Weber is A Chicago Annenberg Board Member. He was an Assistant Secretary of Labor and Associate Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Nixon. Weber, former president of the Commercial Club of Chicago’s Civic Committee, is a longtime Republican donor. Along with Barack Obama, he was a member of the **Chicago Annnenberg Challenge Board** founded by KNOWN "TERRORIST" BILL AYERS!!!

Sarah "Pitbull" Palin was doing "guilt by association". This is a two way street. McCain accepted tainted campaign contributions from Arnold R. Weber, an associate of Bill Ayers.

Weber has given $1,500 to the McCain Campaign in 2008! It's true! In 2008, Arnold Weber made two separate donations of $1,000 and $500 to McCain’s presidential campaign. I call now for Senator McCain to renounce this man and to reject these donations. McCain needs to either return them or give them to a charity. There are educational charities in Chicago that might be appropriate.

The "liberal media" isn't investigating why JOHN MCCAIN ACCEPTED TAINTED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS from this "TERRORIST" associate. This guy doesn't even deny he associates with a known terrorist (...mainly because he hasn't been asked...).

McCain should ask someone at the Annenberg foundation for some suggestions. They are well a well regarded nonpartisan non-profit organization. Hell, they even support FactCheck.org.

It turns out that these types of "facts" are simply baseless attacks with no merit. They are meant to distract the gullible voters. You don't hear about them because most people want to talk about real issues affecting real lives and not play "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon".

For example, it turns out that you can trace Obama's family tree to both George W. Bush (10th cousins once removed) and Dick Cheney (eighth cousins). This is yet another useless fact for games of Trivial Pursuit, but not worthy of any time in this election. Guilt by association is an attack on informed voters and on the democratic process itself.

However... Now RICK DAVIS is worth talking about. Why? Check this out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Davis_%28politics%29

Here is a guy that made MILLIONS as a Washington lobbyist. This guy is a caricature of the very thing that John McCain claims over and over again that he "hates". EARMARKS ANYONE? Rick Davis PRACTICALLY INVENTED EARMARKS. He launched his lobbying career straight from a Reagan White House job! Now he is running the McCain Campaign. How can we believe John McCain is against wasteful government spending after learning about his campaign manager?


Posted by: wunderwood | October 5, 2008 9:58 PM

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You got some good info there my friend. That's the kind of stuff that Obama should be using against McCain in an ad.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 10:30 PM

Arnold R. Weber is A Chicago Annenberg Board Member. He was an Assistant Secretary of Labor and Associate Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Nixon. Weber, former president of the Commercial Club of Chicago’s Civic Committee, is a longtime Republican donor. Along with Barack Obama, he was a member of the **Chicago Annnenberg Challenge Board** founded by KNOWN "TERRORIST" BILL AYERS!!!

Sarah "Pitbull" Palin was doing "guilt by association". This is a two way street. McCain accepted tainted campaign contributions from Arnold R. Weber, an associate of Bill Ayers.

Weber has given $1,500 to the McCain Campaign in 2008! It's true! In 2008, Arnold Weber made two separate donations of $1,000 and $500 to McCain’s presidential campaign. I call now for Senator McCain to renounce this man and to reject these donations. McCain needs to either return them or give them to a charity. There are educational charities in Chicago that might be appropriate.

The "liberal media" isn't investigating why JOHN MCCAIN ACCEPTED TAINTED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS from this "TERRORIST" associate. This guy doesn't even deny he associates with a known terrorist (...mainly because he hasn't been asked...).

McCain should ask someone at the Annenberg foundation for some suggestions. They are well a well regarded nonpartisan non-profit organization. Hell, they even support FactCheck.org.

It turns out that these types of "facts" are simply baseless attacks with no merit. They are meant to distract the gullible voters. You don't hear about them because most people want to talk about real issues affecting real lives and not play "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon".

For example, it turns out that you can trace Obama's family tree to both George W. Bush (10th cousins once removed) and Dick Cheney (eighth cousins). This is yet another useless fact for games of Trivial Pursuit, but not worthy of any time in this election. Guilt by association is an attack on informed voters and on the democratic process itself.

However... Now RICK DAVIS is worth talking about. Why? Check this out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Davis_%28politics%29

Here is a guy that made MILLIONS as a Washington lobbyist. This guy is a caricature of the very thing that John McCain claims over and over again that he "hates". EARMARKS ANYONE? Rick Davis PRACTICALLY INVENTED EARMARKS. He launched his lobbying career straight from a Reagan White House job! Now he is running the McCain Campaign. How can we believe John McCain is against wasteful government spending after learning about his campaign manager?

Posted by: wunderwood | October 5, 2008 9:58 PM

This is completely amazing that anyone that cares about this country would vote for Obama.

He connection to Ayers is just one in a long line of red flags with this guy. He claims that because the attack happened when he was 8 years old it is OK for him to be associated with this terrorist. With that type of logic, Obama will be hanging with Bin Laden in about 33 years.

Posted by: christhompsonlaw | October 5, 2008 9:03 PM

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Are you out of your friggin mind? What are you some kind of tarot card reader? I'm going to have you checked out and if you know anybody that sells drugs, your a drug dealer. Anybody that committed a crime, you’re a criminal. Anybody in your family that drinks alcohol, you’re an alcoholic. Get the picture. And if your not, we'll just go on to the next person in your family and check them out until we find something. Can't you see what your doing? Grow up already! You sound like some kind of whacked out mind reader that guards us from terrorists.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 9:36 PM

Well, Sarah's handlers read newspapers anyway and they also know how to completely manipulate a story to their so called advantage. If she had actually read the story, she would know that it concluded that there is very little substantive relationship between Obama and Ayers. Now let's get back to the economy...

Posted by: amycwest | October 5, 2008 8:48 PM

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She knows that. All this has to do with is headlines. Ya know, first impressions. They don't think people actually read the whole story. Their just looking to pick off as many voters as they can. They might also be doing it so the press can say it's hurting Obama, then shift the poll numbers back in McCain's favor, and start rigging the election so McCain will win. Those voting machines aren't even certified to be used in an election. Total Bush corruption.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 9:15 PM

So much hatred, and directed toward fellow Americans. I submit to all of you commenting that regardless of which ticket wins in November, the United States won't be destroyed. Nixon didn't manage to ruin it, Carter didn't manage to ruin it, and the last 8 years under George W. Bush haven't ruined this country. Perhaps if we, the contistuents of both parties, were less inclined to hysterical rants, the candidates would be also so inclined. We all do want America to be the best country in the world after all, don't we? Do yourselves a favor; worry more about your local crooks and less about the national level politics that is constrained by Constitutional separation of powers and scrutinized daily by the 4th estate press. Extreme partisanship, on both sides, is what's really ruining this country.

Posted by: EddietheInfidel | October 5, 2008 9:10 PM

This is completely amazing that anyone that cares about this country would vote for Obama.

He connection to Ayers is just one in a long line of red flags with this guy. He claims that because the attack happened when he was 8 years old it is OK for him to be associated with this terrorist. With that type of logic, Obama will be hanging with Bin Laden in about 33 years.

Posted by: christhompsonlaw | October 5, 2008 9:03 PM

Well, Sarah's handlers read newspapers anyway and they also know how to completely manipulate a story to their so called advantage. If she had actually read the story, she would know that it concluded that there is very little substantive relationship between Obama and Ayers. Now let's get back to the economy...

Posted by: amycwest | October 5, 2008 8:48 PM

See if this link goes to her viking friends. The All-laska Meth heads. http://megasizzle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sarahpalinvikings3.jpg

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 8:45 PM

Hey, somebody click on this link and see if it goes to Palin hanging out with her biker friends. http://megasizzle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/palinbikers.bmp

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 8:41 PM

The oldest trick in the book. In a difficult election when you're in a hard place and are losing, go for ANYTHING and grab on to it with your life. SMEAR BABY SMEAR--and hope that people are too stupid to check the facts.Along the way you may pick up a couple of fools. Palin has no integrity--Obama can certainly claim more than her. Now Palin feels she is the "informed" candidate since she "passed" the debate thanks ONLY to intense coaching...? She really takes us for ignorant, uniformed fools?! Today, in a time where we are up to the minute and can find anything through the internet? Honestly, the thought that people would believe in her is frightening. Folks, this is the woman that will advise McCain on important issues..To me, all issues are secondary, except for avoiding annihilation. McCain doesn't even want to TRY and talk to Iranian leaders (contrary to what you are told,it is *NOT* Ahmadinejad). A war with Iran (which McCain/Palin would jump right into without a second thought) would be irreversible, unsuccessful (with *no* winners) and catastrophic.PLEASE, please vote for Obama

Posted by: Ninz | October 5, 2008 8:08 PM

The oldest trick in the book. In a difficult election when you're in a hard place and are losing, go for ANYTHING and grab on to it with your life. SMEAR BABY SMEAR--and hope that people are too stupid to check the facts.Along the way you may pick up a couple of fools.Now Palin feels she is the "informed" candidate since she "passed" the debate after intense coaching...? She really takes us for ignorant, uniformed fools?! Today, in a time where we are up to the minute and can find anything through the internet? Honestly, the thought that people would believe in her is frightening. Folks, this is the woman that will advise McCain on important issues..To me, all issues are secondary, except for avoiding annihilation. McCain doesn't even want to TRY and talk to Iranian leaders (contrary to what you are told,it is *NOT* Ahmadinejad). A war with Iran (which McCain/Palin would jump right into without a second thought) would be irreversible, unsuccessful and catastrophic.PLEASE, please Vote for Obama

Posted by: Ninz | October 5, 2008 8:04 PM

Guilt by association is a dangerous game. We might, for instance, point out that Palin has been sleeping with a man who joined a party that thinks so little of America that it advocates succession from the country. This didn't happen when Sarah Palin was eight years old, and as a gubernatorial candidate she spoke at the party's 2006 convention. As governor she told the party, "Keep up the good work!"

Palling around with people who don't see America the way you and I do? Check the mirror, Sarah.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/us/politics/04party.html?ref=politics

Posted by: brainmaps | October 5, 2008 6:54 PM

HemiHead66:
"Maybe you should focus on Bush and his terrorist friends that killed thousands of innocent people on 9,11."

Pathetic.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 5, 2008 5:59 PM

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Your just to ignorant to see the truth. Ya know, they have lectures on this stuff in schools throughout the country. And not by some nutjobs. You just sit back and be a good little puppet boy. I'm sure FIX news will steer ya in the right direction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCHN-1Yk5LI

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 6:32 PM

The Minerals Management Service, which oversees oil production in federal waters offshore, said Hurricane Ike destroyed at least 52 oil platforms of roughly 3,800 in the Gulf of Mexico. Thirty-two more were severely damaged. But there was only one confirmed report of an oil spill — a leak of 8,400 gallons that officials said left no trace because it dissipated with the winds and currents.

Dissapated? Like second hand smoke? Like feces in the well? Like lead in car exhaust? Like mercury in a big lake? Like freon in the atmosphere?

Yeah, Sarah: DRILL, BABY, DRILL!

Posted by: 14truth | October 5, 2008 6:23 PM

This just sounds like the beginning of the RNC's "kitchen sink" move, throw as much crap as possible and hope something sticks.

McCain/Palin need to remember just how well that worked against Obama when Hillary tried it.

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 5, 2008 6:21 PM

Palin needs to be careful of her ignorance to not let it come back and bite her in the rear. She's being investigated and I no doubt she is guilty. Her allowed her husband to have access to federal documents and employed him and her director to do her job during budget cuts procedures. It was they who did all the work and all she did was sign on the dotted line and was then briefed!

As for Mrs. PRO LIFE...

Palin is PRO CHOICE, NOT PRO LIFE! She protects a woman's right to abort a child if her life was in danger even at the 3rd trimester! Shame on her! There is no such thing as being 2/3rd PRO LIFE.. that would mean she is PRO CHOICE and does not want to admit it! Anyone who kills an unborn to save their own life is a coward if they are Christians and call themselves Pro Life. Her Christian thinking on Pro Life is a coward act by trying to prevent a natural death by God. This means she is afraid to meet her creator and prefers the material things she's acquired during her life rather than to save the life of the unborn and go to her heaven.

Posted by: jane57 | October 5, 2008 6:16 PM

Palin needs to be careful of her ignorance. That false charge won't go well with people who are tired of the old fear tactics by the Republicans right wings. Palin's mediocre political talent is going to bite her back!

Palin is PRO CHOICE, NOT PRO LIFE! She protects a woman's right to abort a child if her life was in danger even at the 3rd trimester! Shame on her! There is no such thing as being 2/3rd PRO LIFE.. that would mean she is PRO CHOICE and does not want to admit it! Anyone who kills an unborn to save their own life is a coward if they are Christians and call themselves Pro Life. Her Christian thinking on Pro Life is a coward act by trying to prevent a natural death by God. This means she is afraid to meet her creator and prefers the material things she's acquired during her life rather than to save the life of the unborn and go to her heaven.

I call that being a coward!

Posted by: jane57 | October 5, 2008 6:16 PM

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HemiHead66:
"Maybe you should focus on Bush and his terrorist friends that killed thousands of innocent people on 9,11."

Pathetic.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 5, 2008 5:59 PM

Gator-ron"
"Obama has ideas"

He likely got some of them from Rezko, Ayers, and Wright. Too bad.


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 5, 2008 4:55 P

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Wooow, Obama spoke to a guy that did a bad thing 40 years ago, bought a piece of land from a guy who had trouble with the law, and went to church where there's a pissed off preacher that probably got that way from seeing his family members hung from a tree in the street. How easily you forget what Rev. Wright grew up with. We all know that you'd be just peachy keen about it if it were you. Maybe you should focus on Bush and his terrorist friends that killed thousands of innocent people on 9,11.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 5:34 PM

Palin is obviously incapable of assessing information properly, because it is very clear that her allegations are unjustified. This makes her unsuitable, possibly dangerous as a president.

On the other hand, she may not have had time to investigate properly. But, if so, launching such allegations without proper investigation indicates serious lack of judgment as it will backfire if unfounded, and it has already - see the massive negative press about her due to this.

Considering that McCain has been operated for the aggressive skin cancer, malignant Melanoma, which is difficult to cure, there is a significant risk that she will take over.

Would you vote for a president who does not have the ability to assess information properly or does not have the judgment to realize that careful investigation is necessary before you attack?

Or is it that she is consciously misleading American the people? Is that the ethical standard we want the president to have? If so, do you think she would hesitate to mislead the country into new wars like Bush did?

See also my article: "The president should be selected on scientific grounds" at http://www.psrast.org/selectingpresidents.htm

Posted by: drgrandville | October 5, 2008 4:55 PM

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Gator-ron"
"Obama has ideas"

He likely got some of them from Rezko, Ayers, and Wright. Too bad.


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 5, 2008 4:55 PM

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JohnMcCormick:
"McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981, and McCain was the closest socially to Keating of the five senators. Like DeConcini, McCain considered Keating a constituent as he lived in Arizona. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates."

McCain was CLEARED of any wrongdoing during the investigation. The donations were legal. I'll bet you beat up on the cat too, when no one's looking. Too bad.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 5, 2008 4:51 PM

This election is about a country that has been going in the wrong direction for at least since 2004. Who is going to change that direction. Can the man who has a health care plan that will be available to anyone who wants it. No one is forced to accept that plan or even to get insurance at all.

Or do we want deregulation of health care that will open the field up to predatory insurers and we can repeat the same error as happened in mortgage brokering.

This banking crisis has exposed McCain's weaknesses in both health insurance, the economy and in regulation. It showed that he was unable to meet his own expectations of leadership.

Now he has to change the subject, To Obama is not one of us. Obama is leading the way out of our problems while McCain's idea's are stagnant. He wants to continue that which we have seen not work.

Obama has ideas, McCain does not. You can not expect something better by doing the same thing

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 5, 2008 4:46 PM

wyattobamanation :

Interesting that you say "stick to the issue".

My issue was: Hussein is using the courts to curtail individual's freedom of speech.

You answer back with something about the governor being corrupt.

The fact is: Hussein is using millions of his campaign dollars to send lawyers against the little people who dare question his lies. There are court cases initiated by him.

Court cases: they have nothing to do with the corrupt governor. These are facts.

So stick to the issues, tell me what do you think about these two:

1. Hussein demands no provisions in the bailout be included to protect the homeowners, the middle class.

2. Obama fights against freedom of speech.

These are facts. Discuss them, don't change the topic.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 3:21 PM

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Instead of running your mouth why don't you show us these court cases. Where are they. Obama is running for President so this stuff should be on the front page of every newspaper in the country. And your freedom of speech and no provisions in the bailout to protect the homeowners and the middle class is another lie. That’s the main thing the Democrats fought for. Just prove what you say, or go away.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 4:42 PM

Palins repeated statement that Obama "pals around" gives the (intended) false impression that Obama is a close friend/associate. By her definition, one could say that Henry Kissinger "pals around" with both communist and anti-Israeli forces world-wide.
She also alludes to know the mind of Obama. Perhaps Sarah is the Messiah since she has a God-like knowledge of the thoughts and feelings of a man she's never met. . .

Carl Rove, your twisted propaganda ain't gonna fly--even if you put lipstick on it!

Posted by: 14truth | October 5, 2008 4:36 PM

As for the Obama-drama in Missouri their Senator Claire McGaskill will do anything to help Barry win that State so dont expect any big investigation !!!

Posted by: JUNGLEJIM123 | October 5, 2008 4:35 PM

What a desperate lowlife, white trash, loser Palin is. I can't believe that Mr. "I won't run that kind of campaign" McCain is allowing his running mate to resort to such mindless, cheap rhetoric. America is in peril after what the Republicans and Bush have done to us! We need to know what these politicians are going to do to fix the mess, not about smear and gossip from 40 years ago! Obama is an upstanding guy, and Palin is showing us all what trailer trash she truly is. No how, no way, no McCain, No Palin.

Posted by: Hillary08 | October 5, 2008 4:15 PM

Thozmaniac & Cintronlourdes, MY FRIENDS: With all your racist and false Obama rants about terrorist, muslims, & flag pins.....neither of you can seem to provide and answer for each point I have posted. Therefore, I will again list the Ali Mohammad McCain & Osama Bin Palin issues, I await your answers on.
~Keating 5
~Fundamental Deregulator
~Deregulation of Social Security
~Deregulation of HealthCare
~Enron Loophole
~Vicki Iseman
~Brokaw/McCain Friendship
~Infidelity
~Anti-Catholic
~Temperament-Erraticsism
~McCain Campaign Lobbyist ie. Rick Davis & 80 more
~Andrew McCain + Nevada based Silver State Bank
~Andrew McCain + CMKM Diamonds,better known as CMKX
~Palingate/Troopergate Criminal Investigation
~Palins REV.THOMAS MUTHEE
~Betrayus With A Surge To Nowhere In Iraq
~US Council For World Freedom; Radical, Dangerous & Racist Organization
~Vote Against Veteran Benefits At Home
~Anheuser Busch(Budweiser)Cindy Mccain #1 National Debate Sponsor
~*Straight Talk America PAC, *Altria Group, *American Issues Project, *National Campaign Fund, *Vets For Freedom
____________

www(dot)mccainslobbyists(dot)com

www(dot)mccainsource(dot)com

www(dot)therealmccain(dot)com/butler

www(dot)mudflats(dot)wordpress(dot)com

www(dot)plnewsforum(dot)com/index.php/forums/viewthread/39966

www(dot)phoenixnewtimes(dot)com/1989-11-29/news/mccain-the-most-reprehensible-of-the-keating-five/1

www(dot)rationalrevolution0(dot)tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s(dot)htm

www(dot)republicansexoffenders(dot)com

www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c


Posted by: wyattobamanation | October 5, 2008 3:55 PM

cintronlourdes: If you want to have a real converstaion about your racist and silly topic, then....my friends.........the only terrorist in this race are Ali McCain & Osama Palin. Now that's it clear your ticket are the terrorist, would be be American enough to address and answer all the points on my previous post or maybe if you had to do that, you might have to vote for Obama/Biden. LOVE ME!

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Well, you just cut the communication line. Accusing me of being "racist" is the best argument to try silence differences of opinions.
Check this out:

1.The conservative group, American Issues Project, has produced an ad tying Barack Obama to 60’s radical (and present day thug) William Ayers. The ad points out Ayers radical war waged against America in the 60’s along with Obama’s comments that Ayers is “mainstream” and “respectable”!

Obama is taking his “Chicago-style” approach and trying to silence the ad by intimidating TV stations and also by involving the Justice Department.

2.The Obama campaign set his followers into action to blast a guest on Chicago radio program and tried to intimidate the host into not having the guest on the program. The guest’s crime? Accessing records and reciting facts that shed light on Obama’s relationship with domestic terrorist William Ayers.

3. plus the one i mentioned previously, plus the one about pro-Obama African Americans harassing other blacks who were going to vote for Hillary in the primaries...

4. the man comes across as a fascist. I said "come across", I'm not accusing him. I don't want to be taken to court by his high paid lawyers.

By, sucker.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 3:37 PM

cintronlourdes: If you want to have a real converstaion about your racist and silly topic, then....my friends.........the only terrorist in this race are Ali McCain & Osama Palin. Now that's it clear your ticket are the terrorist, would be be American enough to address and answer all the points on my previous post or maybe if you had to do that, you might have to vote for Obama/Biden. LOVE ME!

Posted by: wyattobamanation | October 5, 2008 3:27 PM

wyattobamanation :

Interesting that you say "stick to the issue".

My issue was: Hussein is using the courts to curtail individual's freedom of speech.

You answer back with something about the governor being corrupt.

The fact is: Hussein is using millions of his campaign dollars to send lawyers against the little people who dare question his lies. There are court cases initiated by him.

Court cases: they have nothing to do with the corrupt governor. These are facts.

So stick to the issues, tell me what do you think about these two:

1. Hussein demands no provisions in the bailout be included to protect the homeowners, the middle class.

2. Obama fights against freedom of speech.

These are facts. Discuss them, don't change the topic.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 3:21 PM

cintronlourdes,

Yet more Palin-McCain lies, fears, distortions and untruths. And so it goes.

"MON., SEPT. 29 (11:25 a.m. Pacific): The Springfield News-Leader now reports that Gov. Blunt, who gave an interview to Fox News, still fails to acknowledge that he misinterpreted both the Missouri Obama-Biden campaign's press release and the KMOV-TV report, notwithstanding efforts by the original TV reporter, John Mills, to clarify what happened. Instead, Blunt now claims that the pro-Obama prosecutors have "reversed course." Meanwhile, the non-story story continues to grow, with mentions on Rush Limbaugh's radio program and, this morning, a thorough piece on ABC's "Political Punch" blog by Jake Tapper."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/attacking-obama.html

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 3:16 PM

You libs kill me.
You act like this is the first time you've heard about this and that it's a "non-issue". Give me a flippin break!

Obama's "love affair" with known terrorists is common knowledge! It's true!
He did it! No argument can be made.

You act like speaking out on this vital and important issue is a non-point.
Can you imagine what would be said if it was found out that Palin or McCain had "pals" that were known terrorists?

Hahahaha! Liberals should mentioned in Webster's under "hypocrites"...or "Lemmings"..

Posted by: Thozmaniac | October 5, 2008 3:12 PM

Cintronlourdes:
The former deputy legal counsel to Gov. Matt Blunt sued the governor and four of his top aides Wednesday, alleging a wide-ranging conspiracy to cover up the administration’s activities.
The suit, filed in Jackson County Circuit Court, describes schemes within the governor’s office to destroy public documents, to evade the state Sunshine law by sending text messages on personal Blackberrys and to fire a long-time state employee for political reasons. ...

According to a news release from the Missouri Democratic Party, the Missouri Ethics Commission announced today that they have referred a complaint filed against Gov. Matt Blunt for violating Missouri's campaign finance laws to the Attorney General's office. This is believed to be the first time since the Ethics Commission was formed in 1993 that they have found probable cause to refer an ethics complaint against a sitting governor to a prosecutor.

The complaint, which was filed by the Missouri Democratic Party, charges that Matt Blunt failed to report an illegal in-kind contribution of a tour bus to his gubernatorial campaign by Mike Kehoe, who he recently appointed to the Highway Commission. Only after the ethics complaint was filed did Blunt's campaign pay Kehoe for use of the tour bus. However, even then the campaign only paid a third of the bus's fair market value, again constituting an illegal in-kind contribution well above the legal limit.

"It's fitting that on the very day the Ethics Commission announces they have found probable cause to refer an ethics complaint against Matt Blunt for prosecution, that Gov. Blunt and his chief of staff are in Sun Valley, Idaho thanking political contributors," said Missouri Democratic Party spokesman Jack Cardetti. "Clearly this is an administration that shows little regard for ethical guidelines and acts as if they are above the law."

SO, Cintronlourdes, STICK TO THE ISSUE BECAUSE, IT'S THE MAVERICKITY ECONOMY, STUPID!
AND IF YOU AND MOOSEMAMA, IF SARAHCIDE CHOOSES TO RECITE FEEBLE MCCAINIAC CLAIMS ABOUT A MUSLIM OBAMA, OBAMA AND TERRORISTS, & OBAMA AND ETHICS......LET'S TALK, MY FIRENDS!
~Keating 5
~Fundamental Deregulator
~Deregulation of Social Security
~Deregulation of HealthCare
~Enron Loophole
~Vicki Iseman
~Brokaw/McCain Friendship
~Infidelity
~Anti-Catholic
~Temperament-Erraticsism
~McCain Campaign Lobbyist ie. Rick Davis & 80 more
~Andrew McCain + Nevada based Silver State Bank
~Andrew McCain + CMKM Diamonds,better known as CMKX
~Palingate/Troopergate Criminal Investigation
~Palin's REV.THOMAS MUTHEE Witchdoctor Video
~Betrayus With A Surge To Nowhere In Iraq
~US Council For World Freedom; Radical, Dangerous & Racist Organization
~Vote Against Veteran Benefits At Home
~Anheuser Busch(Budweiser)Cindy Mccain #1 National Debate Sponsor
~*Straight Talk America PAC, *Altria Group, *American Issues Project, *National Campaign Fund, *Vets For Freedom
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
www(dot)mccainslobbyists(dot)com

www(dot)mccainsource(dot)com

www(dot)therealmccain(dot)com/butler
www(dot)mudflats(dot)wordpress(dot)com

www(dot)plnewsforum(dot)com/index.php/forums/viewthread/39966

www(dot)phoenixnewtimes(dot)com/1989-11-29/news/mccain-the-most-reprehensible-of-the-keating-five/1

www(dot)rationalrevolution0(dot)tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s(dot)htm

www(dot)republicansexoffenders(dot)com
www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Posted by: wyattobamanation | October 5, 2008 3:11 PM

And my last post about Obama attacking freedom of speech, is it a lie too?

I'm not a republican and would be ready for psychiatric hospitalization if I were to support Palin or McCain.

I won't be voting for either. This is my point:

It is Obama the one presenting himself as the agent of "change", assuming he means for the better, not the worst.

I haven't seen or heard or read anything about McCain trying to limit our freedom of speech.

I think Obama is more dangerous than McCain.

Again, I will not be voting for either of them.

But you should try to look at reality. It seems you are an honest person searching for the truth. But what good is the truth if you don't believe it?

Obama represents the interests of global banking and Wall Street. It was HIM WHO DEMANDED THAT NO PROVISION FOR RE-NEGOTIATING THE FORECLOSURE DEBTS for the people IN COURT WERE INCLUDED.

How can you accept that and gingerly vote for him?

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 3:08 PM

Sarah Palin took the bait and didn't even read the actual paper. Had she done so, she would have seen the article is about nothing. Had she done so, she would have noticed from the headline '60's Radical' to its placement above a story saying Obama is winning Florida (oops, Bucs!) to the op-ed page which nullifies her, that edition of the NYT was a lure to the extremists hoping the Times would dump on Obama.

When will the NYT cover G. Gordon Liddy, a McCain friend also prone to blowing things up, or as Paul Begala said today on MTP, "I didn't even put this in the book. But John McCain sat on the board of a very right-wing organization, it was the U.S. Council for World Freedom, it was chaired by a guy named John Singlaub, who wound up involved in the Iran contra scandal. It was an ultra conservative, right-wing group. The Anti-Defamation League, in 1981 when McCain was on the board, said this about this organization. It was affiliated with the World Anti-Communist League - the parent organization - which ADL said "has increasingly become a gathering place, a forum, a point of contact for extremists, racists and anti-Semites."

Yesterday's NYT dumped on Palin. Bigtime. Only in the part she didn't read...the op-ed pages.

Had she read the paper, she would also have seen it jumped inside to a spread with a large story on how McCain was going negative, and another on how she's a millionaire.

I wonder if she has taken a look at The Economist lately. http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127 As in, forgot to tell Katie Couric...somehow told Fox that she reads it. Sarah Palin got punked there too.

If I may quote them..."The detailed responses are bad news for Mr McCain. Eighty per cent of respondents and no fewer than 71% of those who do not cleave to either main party say Mr Obama has a better grasp of economics. Even among Republicans Mr Obama has the edge: 46% versus 23% say Mr Obama has the better grasp of the subject."

Posted by: kravitzkravitz | October 5, 2008 3:03 PM

cintronlourdes,

I guess you too believe like the Palin-McCain campaign, if you tell lies long enough people will believe them. Raines and Howard have not been shown to be "Economic Advisors" to the Obama campaign in any way except through scurrilous innuendo and intentional disinformation. There are no facts to support your assertion and facts which dispute it.

The Palin-McCain campaign and their trolls are glaring examples of how low people will sink in putting themselves first and country last. Why address the issues when they don't have any ideas what to do about them.

And I don't condone attacks on Palin-McCain either which have no basis in fact either. Lies are lies no matter who tells them.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 2:56 PM

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Saturday, September 27, 2008
Contact: Jessica Robinson, 573-751-0290
Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement

JEFFERSON CITY - Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.

“St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.

“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.

“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.

“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 2:46 PM

IT'S THE MAVERICKITY ECONOMY, STUPID!
BUT, IF SARAHCIDE CHOOSES TO RECITE FEEBLE MCCAINIAC CLAIMS ABOUT A MUSLIM OBAMA, OBAMA AND TERRORISTS, & OBAMA AND ETHICS......LET'S TALK, MY FIRENDS!
~Keating 5
~Fundamental Deregulator
~Deregulation of Social Security
~Deregulation of HealthCare
~Enron Loophole
~Vicki Iseman
~Brokaw/McCain Friendship
~Infidelity
~Anti-Catholic
~Temperament-Erraticsism
~McCain Campaign Lobbyist ie. Rick Davis & 80 more
~Andrew McCain + Nevada based Silver State Bank
~Andrew McCain + CMKM Diamonds,better known as CMKX
~Palingate/Troopergate Criminal Investigation
~Palins REV.THOMAS MUTHEE
~Betrayus With A Surge To Nowhere In Iraq
~US Council For World Freedom; Radical, Dangerous & Racist Organization
~Vote Against Veteran Benefits At Home
~Anheuser Busch(Budweiser)Cindy Mccain #1 National Debate Sponsor
~*Straight Talk America PAC, *Altria Group, *American Issues Project, *National Campaign Fund, *Vets For Freedom
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
www(dot)mccainslobbyists(dot)com

www(dot)mccainsource(dot)com

www(dot)therealmccain(dot)com/butler

www(dot)mudflats(dot)wordpress(dot)com

www(dot)plnewsforum(dot)com/index.php/forums/viewthread/39966

www(dot)phoenixnewtimes(dot)com/1989-11-29/news/mccain-the-most-reprehensible-of-the-keating-five/1

www(dot)rationalrevolution0(dot)tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s(dot)htm

www(dot)republicansexoffenders(dot)com

www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Posted by: wyattobamanation | October 5, 2008 2:44 PM

Three Men Who Brought Down Wall Street Work with Obama

October 4, 2008

Here is a quick look into three former Fannie Mae executives who were instrumental in bringing down Wall Street.

Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregularities in Fannie Mae's accounting activities.
At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, " Raines, who long defended the company's accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that "mistakes were made" and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of findings that the company's books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years." Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion.

Raines left with a "golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear.

http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ . The Government noted, "The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsafe and unsound manner." These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.

Tim Howard was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard "was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a "stable pattern of earnings" at Fannie. In everyday English - he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, "Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae."

On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant's income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004.

Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!

Jim Johnson is a former executive at Lehman Brothers who was forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's May 2006 report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you'll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million." Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.

Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor

TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama

JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee

IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS - HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE - THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE. But would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the new Wall Street ?

http://www.rightsidenews.com/200810042130/editorial/three-men-who-brought-down-wall-street-work-for-obama.html

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 2:37 PM

When Cotton Candy doesn't work Sling Mud. LIE,LIE,LIE. She failed at the debates doing nothing but wink and tease and play cutesy little junior high school flirt on the podium and even went against McCain without answering questions or laying out a plan. McCain's VP is pure Cotton Candy and since not all of us are Joe SixPack frat boys who have a crush on her, we're going with a team that is united and has substance - Obama and Biden. Palin has her own agenda she's already making plans contrary to McCain (her and first Dude Todd that is) but they sure are united focusing on tabloid lies and not the issues. That's because they have no plans or solutions. Welcome to McCain/Palin ticket...the LOW ROAD EXPRESS..here we go again.

Posted by: RepublicanAlternative | October 5, 2008 1:56 PM

See Out Takes Of the VP Debates
http://www.watchdebates.com

See John McCain loosing his temper,
and saying the f word over and over again.
http://www.mccanes.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 5, 2008 1:50 PM

Sarah Palin is using the same cheap and mean tactics that she used when running for Mayor in Wasilla against a very fine and honorable incumbent.

She started whispering attacks that possibly he was a jew, that he wasn't really married, and that she would be the first "Christian" mayor of the town.

This woman is simply contemptible and beneath any sort dignity or self respect.

Neither Sarah Palin or her demented running mate have any plan for our country to get us out of its economic abyss. They just say that they will ride into Washington as "mavericks," and get rid of all "the bad guys."

Then they will start a few wars with all of our "enemies." That's their plan to get us out of recession.

The only strategy they have is to knee cap their opponents. That is not the American way.

I hope that voters are going to wake up and start hiolding this mad couple responsible for spreading hate, fear and lies in their filthy campaign

They are the ones who are truly not American.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 1:49 PM

It is obvious to me that all John McCain wants to do is start another war, so that he can 'win" the one that he felt was lost in Viet-Nam.

He is no better than a modern day deranged Don Quixote. We need to wake up and realize this before it is too late.

Watch his anger and impatience as he shuts down the Senate investigation in 1991 into the missing POW's and MIA's in Laos. He has not changed. He is ruthless in his disrespect and obvious hate for the poor lady trying to get information about her missing husband.

McCain is beneath contempt.

Takes place in the first video on the website with much background to follow. The site is maintained by Viet-Nam veterans who feel that John McCain is attempting to cover up his past as the "songbird" who gave classified information to Russian interogators working in Hanoi for the Vietnamese.

View the information at:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6065

This man was dangerous then, and even more dangerous now.

Viet-Nam Veteran
Khe Sanh 1968

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 1:36 PM

obama has never weathered a crisis.- Either has McCain
obama has never balanced a budget- Either has McCain
obama has never managed executive staff.- Either has McCain
obama has never accomplished anything that brought it to the attention of the world, or even america. Either has McCain. Big deal, he got shot down and sat out the war with his commie pals. He sang like a bird to.

WHY IS OBAMA A BETTER CHOICE THAN MCCAIN?==Because Obama didn't finish last in his class and crash 5 planes.
what reputable and precise thing has obama done?==What kind of stupid question is that. Ask him.
WHERE HAS HE DEMONSTRATED THE ABILITY TO UNIFY?==He did fill a stadium to give a speech.
WHERE HAS HE DOMONSTRATED HIS ABILITY TO TURN A SITUATION AROUND the way Palin has on file of turning alaska around for example?==Palin didn't turn anything around. She left the state 20 million in the hole, and the property taxes she cut were paid back when she jacked the sales tax up.

WHAT - WHAT - WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE? i need more than a grin. I need more than a speech you prepared for and rehearsed.=== Obama does his own speeches. That speech at the convention was all his.

Chairman, Health and Human Services Committee
Spearheaded a successful bipartisan effort in Illinois to pass the broadest ethics-reform legislation in 25 years, and gained bipartisan support for his successful bills reforming death penalty interrogations and ending racial profiling by police. Worked with the Republican-led effort to reform welfare.
Also sponsored successful bills expanding tax credits and child-care subsidies for low-income working families, protecting overtime pay for workers, expanding health care for children, and providing job skills training for juveniles.

i need a LEADER! when did obama step in and take control of a situation and prove his leadership abilities?= When did McCain. He's been a rich flunky all his life. If it wasn't for his daddy he would've been tossed out of the Military. And if it wasn't for his rich wife's family he wouldn't even be in the senate. Why don't you ask McCain about his war records that are sealed in Washington. They do that kind of stuff when they cover for traitors. Our troops did give more money to Obama's campaign by a margin of 6 to 1.


Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 12:13 PM

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 1:14 PM

JD,

You willingly associate yourself with Citronlourdes or whatever he calls himself?
the man who refers to Jefferson as a hero of the civil war? I assume he doesn't know the difference between Jefferson Davis and Thomas Jefferson.

Supporting Palin must take intellectual courage on your part.

My sympathies Jake,

Chris Brown in Hamburg, home of the Bank of Warburg, one of the institutions that helped create the financial mess a century ago.

Posted by: chrisbrown1 | October 5, 2008 1:13 PM

As for how many fake JakeDs there were before comment registration was reinstituted, I lost count.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 1:12 PM

"We" being all the McCain-Palin supporters highlighting who Obama really is.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 1:04 PM

You should look at yourselves in a mirror to see what a sorry a/s/s bunch you are.

Attacking each other, defending the same crooks who last week just put a gun to your heads and asked you 'your money or your lives'.

Vote for Obama! Vote for McCain!

VOTE FOR THE CROOKS! WE DON'T CARE. WE ARE DUMB A'S'S ES.

You deserve the crap they give you.

You have turned into the 'i call my representatives and that's the level of my civic participation' generation.

Jefferson, and those who fought in the civil war must be rolling on their tombs.

You should be ashamed of daring to call yourselves Americans.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 12:59 PM

Dear "Real Jake"

How many of you are there: "Once Obama stops talking about Bush . . .then we'll stop talking about his pals." Sufferring from multiple personalities are "we""?

. . . And meanwhile over at the NYTimes
comes this hair-raising quote from McCain'ts pal, Palin:

“We see America as the greatest force for good in this world. If we can be that beacon of light and hope for others who seek freedom and can live in a country that would allow intolerance in the equal rights that again our military men and women fight for and die for all of us."

I can only hope she is being misquoted here. I cannot make sense out of this jumble of phrases tumbling over each other. I can't believe this woman has earned a degree in journalism, no matter how low Alaskan standards of education might be.

Is it elitist to expect the governor or a state to be able to speak English?

Save America from the Re-publican Banksters, Chris Brown in Hamburg

Posted by: chrisbrown1 | October 5, 2008 12:50 PM

I am the real JakeD -- luckily, comment registration is back -- once Obama stops talking about Bush (the ultimate "guilt by association") then we'll stop talking about his pals.

Posted by: JakeD

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Why? There is complicity between Bush and McCain. It isn't a tenuous connection, it is a very real connection. McCain is the republican heir, why would anyone expect him to not have to answer for his party's policies? Particularly when McCain as a US senator has supported those policies the majority of the time?

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 12:36 PM

ChooseBestCandidate,

What has Palin turned around in Alaska? Balanced a budget? Sure, balanced a budget in a state which has budget surpluses all the while going after earmarks from the US tax payers pocket. Or how about the income tax? Replaced it with a sales tax.

Or how about Wasilla? tax breaks for Wal Mart and Sears, leaves the town which had no long term debt with 15 million for a hockey stadium. A town of 6000 or 7000! Yup she was a champion of fiscal responsibility all right.

Yeah, Palin really took on the "old boy network" (in her own party) and replaced it with her own.

As for John McCain, I am more and more coming to the conclusion he is still trying to win the Viet Nam war. He still hasn't lived down the shame in his own mind of having capitulated to the North Vietnamese and is hell bent on showing he can win a war. The demons in his own mind are driving this guy to behave irrationally.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 12:32 PM

You think Obama has a problem with Ayers? HOw about John McCain's close relationship with that urban terrorist G. Gordon Liddy, who has held a fundraiser for McCain and contributed $5,000 to him, $1,000 this year. Remember Liddy, the Watergate mastermind, is the guy who advised the Branch Davidians to aim for Federal ATF agents' heads to avoid their flak jackets. Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGRvo6LWuaY

Posted by: Omyobama | October 5, 2008 12:25 PM

ChooseBsstCandidate: I'll give you credit for persistance. But do you notice how lonely your voice is getting? Even the rats are starting to jump ship.

Posted by: tsawyer_mv | October 5, 2008 12:25 PM

I am the real JakeD -- luckily, comment registration is back -- once Obama stops talking about Bush (the ultimate "guilt by association") then we'll stop talking about his pals.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 12:24 PM

Fine JakeD,

But your intent was transparent. A pathetic attempt to use fear tactics when reasoned argument alludes and evades.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 12:22 PM


Is that a THREAT?


Posted by: edlharris | October 5, 2008 12:10 PM
================
why is every objection about obama a THREAT or HATE or RACISM.

ITS GETTING SICKENING AND VERY, VERY OLD!!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 12:22 PM

i think obama's people are funny sometimes.

to hear them talk one would think obama had reached double digit in polls.

just amusing at time.

obama didnt want to deregulate fannie and freddie because they were padding his pockets. amusing how many americans miss out on what's right in front of them. ... like sheep falling over a cliff.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 12:19 PM

ayers was just one.
SECOND ON THE LIST: REZKO!!

lets see how he tries to clean up that one this coming week when it gets dumped on the table.

rezko sits in jail hoping obama is pres and he is pardoned... when obama wont make it listen for the canary-Rezko to begin spilling the real beans.

the fraudulent obama has pocketed millions of american dollars on false pretenses. he knows he is not even ELIGIBLE to take the presidency much less run for its office but hes taking in as much as he can sucker a certain amount of americans for.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 12:17 PM

obama has never weathered a crisis.
obama has never balanced a budget
obama has never managed executive staff.
obama has never accomplished anything that brought it to the attention of the world, or even america.

WHY IS OBAMA A BETTER CHOICE THAN MCCAIN?
what reputable and precise thing has obama done?
WHERE HAS HE DEMONSTRATED THE ABILITY TO UNIFY?
WHERE HAS HE DOMONSTRATED HIS ABILITY TO TURN A SITUATION AROUND the way Palin has on file of turning alaska around for example?

WHAT - WHAT - WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE?
i need more than a grin. I need more than a speech you prepared for and rehearsed.

i need a LEADER! when did obama step in and take control of a situation and prove his leadership abilities?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 12:13 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD


Is that a THREAT?

And is this JakeD or the real JakeD. Last week, there were lots of postings from JakeD that were all over the place. Will the real JakeD stand up, and give us his name rank and serial number.

Posted by: edlharris | October 5, 2008 12:10 PM

For the record, I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. If someone gives their prediction of how the election is going to turn out, however, so will I.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 12:09 PM

"This is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word "victory" except when he's talking about his own campaign."


Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:38 AM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Victory Ha. 1.2 million innocent Men Women and Children blown to pieces and you want victory. You do know that Bush will be tried for murder when he leaves office. Why do you think he passed a law that frees himself of war crimes going all the way back to 2001. Can you believe somebody trying to themselves of war crimes. I'll give ya victory. Your terrorist is right in the White House.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 12:06 PM

Didn't Palin say something Thursday night about not looking back.
Now, she is looking back.
Considering her CHristianity, she sounds like a hypocrite.
And she is coming very close to prostituting herself, doing anything to win.


I wanna hear what's she doing do for us.

Posted by: edlharris | October 5, 2008 12:05 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD

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JakeD, you're posting at the Washington Post website. This is a newspaper. And a fairly reputable one. Your tactics are misplaced. There aren't many people here who are going to vote for president based on a middle name.

There are plenty of people who can probably be swayed to vote for anyone other than Senator Obama because of his strange sounding name. But you have to do a better job targeting them. You won't find many of them at the Washington Post website.

See, your target audience is people who don't read newspapers. So go to sites where people are generally uninformed and are easily frightened by people who don't look like them. You will have much more success in reaching people you can actually influence.

Posted by: tsawyer_mv | October 5, 2008 12:01 PM

...So 40 year old history about Ayers when Obama was eight...is sadly absurd and laughable.

....What about the Keating five in 1988 20-year-old story when McCaint was 52...

The story may be old, but it's recently become surprisingly relevant to current events -- we are, after all, talking about a scandal involving major bank failures, financial fraud and greed, and political ineptitude.

There is history repeating itself 20 years later....

McCaint is running with a message about his ability to "reform" both DC and Wall Street record.

McCaint and his pathetic and laughable campaign just want us to see again that McCaint is no hero...and his "nurse" peeeuuu Palin is a hero sandwich...full of baloney

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 5, 2008 12:01 PM

JakeD,

There you go again, using the subliminal tactics when actual argument runs aground. Just like Palin-McCain, go for the visceral rather than truth or facts.

So what about John McCain's connections to Indian and Las Vegas gambling? What about his close ties to lobbyists (Davis and Buse) for Freddie and Fannie? Why did McCain only sign on as co-sponsor to the Fannie/Freddie bill which had been in committee for a year only AFTER Fannie/Freddie stopped funding their lobbyist group which he headed? Why was Davis' firm still receiving payments from Fannie/Freddie until two months ago? How is it Obama received his contributions from small contributers which show up in the numbers quoted, yet McCain received more from Fannie and Freddie from their PACs?

Ayres was a two bit radical, McCain's "pals" are bona fide economic terrorists.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 11:57 AM

"But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed ... when the roar of the crowd fades away ... when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot - what exactly is our opponent's plan? "

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:45 AM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 11:42 AM

Just what we need, another crack-pot with a court case. How many is that, 5 already.


Posted by: HemiHead66
==================
how about coming in with some truth? some fact? some reality? IT WOULD MAKE YOU AT LEAST CREDIBLE!!!! just cute dont cut it.

I GAVE YOU A CASE NUMBER.... SHOW ME WHERE I'M WRONG!!!! u got homework!!!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I'm not saying your wrong. I'm saying it don't mean a thing. What was the last one, Obama wasn’t born in the United States. Well I got news for ya, either was McCain. I don't care what you come up with, Obama will be President.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 11:41 AM

"This is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word "victory" except when he's talking about his own campaign."

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:38 AM

I'm glad to see Palin's speech get some play on the real Sunday talk shows (CNN still won't cover it). Congrats to Paul Begala over on MTP for getting down in the "gutter" with the rest of us ; )

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 11:36 AM

WHAT DID AYERS KNOW ABOUT 9-11

WHY DID HIS ARTICLE APPERS HOURS BEFORE THE BOMBING IN THE VERY SAME CITY WHOSE POLICE HEADQUARTERS HE BOMBED?

WHY DID HE TALK ABOUT THE PENTAGON BOMBINGS WHEN THE PENTAGON TOO THAT DAY WOULD BE THE SUBJECT OF A BOMBING?

COINCIDENCE?
AND JUST WHO IS OBAMA AND WHY HAS AYERS BEEN IN HIS LIFE THIS LONG AND HOW DID HE JUST HAPPEN TO END UP IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AYERS.

WHY WAS IT IMPORTANT FOR OBAMA TO HIDE THIS PARTICULAR RELATIONSHIP? WHAT HAS AYERS BEEN GROOMING HIM FOR?

head of ACORN tapped obama while he was still in college. WHY? AND WHY did obama try to filter money from BAILOUT to the ACORN cause?

obama supporters? lay down your shield for a moment and THINK!!!!!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:27 AM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Boy you really are out of the loop. Bush and Cheney blew up the Twin Towers. Don't you know anything.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 11:34 AM

Just what we need, another crack-pot with a court case. How many is that, 5 already.


Posted by: HemiHead66
==================
how about coming in with some truth? some fact? some reality? IT WOULD MAKE YOU AT LEAST CREDIBLE!!!! just cute dont cut it.

I GAVE YOU A CASE NUMBER.... SHOW ME WHERE I'M WRONG!!!! u got homework!!!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:33 AM

Bottom line:

November 4th:

Obama/Biden have won election.

Between Nov. 5th 2008 and Jan. 20th 2009:

Crash all planes no hero McCain will be removed from Senate, banned for EVER running for ANYTHING ever again, and therefore unemployed and headed for a home for the mentally disturbed.

Totally unqualified for anything Palin will be removed as Governor of Alaska for totally embarrassing the state and those good people and offered a talk show on cable in Alaska.

2010: Nobody can remember their names.

Amen.

Posted by: Flabbergasted1 | October 5, 2008 11:33 AM

Palin on Ayres is strike one.
by the time she gets done with him he'll be standing in his boots using a cowboy hat for cover.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:23 AM

++++++++++++++++++++++++

You got that right! 2 More and she's out.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 11:30 AM

I saw the "case number". That doesn't mean anything. Any clown can file a "case" and get a case number, that doesn't mean that the case has merit or that the party charged is guilty of anything. I could file a case against you and make any nutty accusation I want, but it doesn't make it a fact.

I also don't get the leap of logic you make by saying Obama doesn't have a birth certificate? You are jumping to absurd conclusions based on bogus accusations and ridiculous conspiracy theories that you must be hearing from some wacky radio talk show or something.

You haven't posted one thing of real substance, everything you post is wild conspiratorial accusations and you really sound like an unhinged lunatic with little connection to the real world.

Posted by: sobugged | October 5, 2008 11:28 AM

WHAT DID AYERS KNOW ABOUT 9-11

WHY DID HIS ARTICLE APPERS HOURS BEFORE THE BOMBING IN THE VERY SAME CITY WHOSE POLICE HEADQUARTERS HE BOMBED?

WHY DID HE TALK ABOUT THE PENTAGON BOMBINGS WHEN THE PENTAGON TOO THAT DAY WOULD BE THE SUBJECT OF A BOMBING?

COINCIDENCE?
AND JUST WHO IS OBAMA AND WHY HAS AYERS BEEN IN HIS LIFE THIS LONG AND HOW DID HE JUST HAPPEN TO END UP IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AYERS.

WHY WAS IT IMPORTANT FOR OBAMA TO HIDE THIS PARTICULAR RELATIONSHIP? WHAT HAS AYERS BEEN GROOMING HIM FOR?

head of ACORN tapped obama while he was still in college. WHY? AND WHY did obama try to filter money from BAILOUT to the ACORN cause?

obama supporters? lay down your shield for a moment and THINK!!!!!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:27 AM

OBAMA WILL NOT WIN.

Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083. - PENNSYLVANIA EASTERN DISTRICT COURT.

OBAMA did not produce a copy of his birth certificate - - this means he knows the one on his website is a FAKE!!!!


Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:49 AM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Just what we need, another crack-pot with a court case. How many is that, 5 already.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 11:23 AM

Palin on Ayres is strike one.
by the time she gets done with him he'll be standing in his boots using a cowboy hat for cover.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:23 AM

Posted by: sobugged | October 5, 2008 10:58 AM
===============
i regret this line of harshness, but
SERIOUSLY, JUST HOW VERY DUMB ARE YOU?

1. did you see a case number up there in my post? and still you waltz in askin me WHERE I GOT IT FROM?

2. are you SICK OR ON COCAINE?

3. HINT::::: GO LOOK UP THE CASE NUMBER... IT IS A CASE IN THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PA. COURTS.

obama did not present a birth certificate because he HAS NONE.

AND HE HAS YOU UP HERE BATTING FOR HIM!!!!
look in the mirror - - yeah, that's you up there.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:22 AM

Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? You are completely detached from reality. Keep dreaming of some dramatic "scandal" to win the election for you, it's your only hope. A "fake birth certificate" ?? Honestly?? You are a joke.

Posted by: sobugged | October 5, 2008 10:58 AM
===============
i regret this line of harshness, but
SERIOUSLY, JUST HOW VERY DUMB ARE YOU?

1. did you see a case number up there in my post? and still you waltz in askin me WHERE I GOT IT FROM?

2. are you SICK OR ON COCAINE?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:20 AM

she is brilliant.
--- ChooseTheBestCandidate --

That statement alone should confirm to everyone that you are mentally incompetant and should not be allowed to reproduce.

Put away your keyboard and go back to your crayons. Put on some soothing Baby Mozart or something, it will calm you down and help you get some much needed rest. Your little fingers must be so tired from all the typing you've been doing this morning.

Posted by: sobugged | October 5, 2008 11:14 AM

it was a crazy day on 9-11
not many people in nyc remember the news paper for that day.

go back and read it.
it was the very same day WM. AYERS BRAGGED ABOUT THE BOMBS HE SET IN THE PAST.

THE ARTICLE APPEARD ON THE VERY SAME DAY AS 9-11.

how you people can swallow this and still vote for obama is a disgrace, imo.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:11 AM

When it comes to newspapers,


Posted by: tsawyer_
-------
she is brilliant.
that is her whole reason for bringing it up.
NYT tried to make it appear ayers is a non-issue... she put it BACK ON THE TABLE AND SAY, look america - check it out for yourselves, and we are.

obama is a liar!
go and look up this name NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE DATED SEPTEMNBER 11, 2001. there you will find an article on William Ayhers, and you will see even the NYT times at the time considered him a friend of obama's.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:09 AM

Whether you believe him or not, McCain says he regrets Keating 5 and dedicated his career to campaign finance reform. Ayers is an UNREPENTENT terrorist.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 11:07 AM

What will the Republicans come up with next?

Posted by: atidwell

=
the only ones who need a "next" are the ones not paying attention to whats on the table NOW!!!

a man who is easily bribed for President?
a man who wants to associate with terroists?
a man whose wife is not proud of america?
a man who tried to block a system that would have kept fanniemae in control?
a man who tried to slip some of this CRISIS MONEY TO A FRAUDULENT GROUP CALLED ACORN?

u want more than what u got? no matter which way obama turns it creates some slimy questions.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:05 AM

Did Governor Palin make it past the headline of the NYT article?

When it comes to newspapers, I know that she reads "all of them," so maybe she just didn't have the time to see that the article read that Obama wasn't "pals" with Ayers.

Then again, she does come from a party famous for basing their attacks on faulty intelligence.

Posted by: tsawyer_mv | October 5, 2008 11:03 AM

Just because companies failed does not translate into obama suddenly being qualified to be president.

Obama is the same inexperienced, bad-judgment person he was the day before the collapse.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 11:01 AM

Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.
STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA
SEPTEMBER 24, 2008
SEPTEMBER 29, 2008

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:59 AM

OBAMA WILL NOT WIN.

Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083. - PENNSYLVANIA EASTERN DISTRICT COURT.

OBAMA did not produce a copy of his birth certificate - - this means he knows the one on his website is a FAKE!!!!
--- ChooseTheBestCandidate ---

Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? You are completely detached from reality. Keep dreaming of some dramatic "scandal" to win the election for you, it's your only hope. A "fake birth certificate" ?? Honestly?? You are a joke.

Posted by: sobugged | October 5, 2008 10:58 AM

OBAMA is connected to ACORN who is being investigated for voter fraud favoring democrats.

OBAMA came through dirty-Chicago politics

OBAMA took money from Rezko and claimed he forgot about it.

OBAMA took money from fannieMae and Freddiemack even tho he knew they were in trouble.

OBAMA IS NOT THE MAN TO HAVE ANY SAY IN THIS CRISIS.

at the top of the list of donations to senators DODD, IS FIRST AND OBAMA IS SECOND.

get a clue - - - - OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS IS TRYING TO PLAY AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:55 AM

How sadly desperate. John McCain used to be thought of as a man of character. I'm not sure where that man of 8 years ago went to, but he surely has disappeared. I truly feel sorry for him - I think he really can't believe that he might lose this election and this is his form of a temper tantrum. It's unbefitting the war hero that I really believe he was. Obama's loose ties with Ayers, Rezko, and Rev. Wright have been known for over 18 months, and there's no political traction there. The only people it resonates with are the base that McCain already has in his camp. It won't change anyone else's minds, and it won't sway the undecideds. They already know this information. I wish McCain would show some dignity and not have his reputation go down the tubes with the election.

Posted by: jerzygrl | October 5, 2008 10:53 AM

obama must let out the loudest laugh when he gets behind closed doors that americans can be had for a song and a dance.

WHO HAS FORGOTTEN this is the same man who told us he forgot Rezko gave him $250,000?

WHO HAS FORGOTTEN this is the same man who went to a racist church but claims to be clueless as to what goes on there?

WHO HAS FORGOTTEN this is the same man who is buddies with someone who BRAGGED ON 9-11 about the bombs he sent to the Pentagon in the past and who KILLED 2 NEW YORK POLICE OFFICERS?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:53 AM

How does Palin feel about the Keating 5 scandal? McCain basically taking a bribe for letting a banker screw depositors and then saying "I'm sorry"? Or how about his largely fictitious POW record, as stated by a fellow POW who NEVER "confessed" or turned on his country? How about the fact that McCain had numerous affairs which in and of it's self is dishonorable and a record of lying to a loved one.

Sarah, you really do not want to go down that road. Oh, and what about your husband who wants Alaska to split from the US and become a separate country.

Sarah, you and McCain live in glass houses, watch were you throw stones.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | October 5, 2008 10:51 AM


Republican Comedy Hour

Palin for Vice President, does skits on Saturday Night Live

Barack Obama is a corrupt secret gay muslim terrorist who wants American women wearing a burka...

What will the Republicans come up with next?

Posted by: atidwell | October 5, 2008 10:50 AM

OBAMA WILL NOT WIN.

Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083. - PENNSYLVANIA EASTERN DISTRICT COURT.

OBAMA did not produce a copy of his birth certificate - - this means he knows the one on his website is a FAKE!!!!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:49 AM

More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won't disclose

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:47 AM

She should be careful about pointing out the (weak) associations of others. Has Caribou Barbie forgotten that she MARRIED an anti-American secessionist?

Posted by: rmiller19
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seems someone NEEDS to point out your weakness:::: you like calling people names.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:46 AM

ChooseBestCandidate:

I believe the reference is to McCain dropping bombs from his fighter jet over Vietnam. Liberals can't (won't) draw a distinction every political scientist knows is true.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 10:46 AM

I am much more concerned about the company John McCain is currently keeping. The associations of McCain's chief adviser Charles Black are truly frightening - terrorists and dictators. And let us not forget that this is the same man who said a fresh terrorist attack would be a big advantage to McCain.

As for judgment, only one candidate running for the Presidency has been rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising "poor judgment" - John McCain.

Posted by: VirginiaVoter08 | October 5, 2008 10:44 AM

Here is a NEWSFLASH: An insight into the logical mind of Sarah Palin

John McCain and George Bush are very good friends.
George Bush is the son of George Bush snr.
George Bush snr and the Saudi Royal Family are good friends.
Osama Bin Laden- terrorist and the mastermind of 9/11 is related to the Saudi Royal Family.
Using Sarah's logic John McCain must be a terrorist.
Hey; I once met the Queen of England; does that make me royalty!!

Posted by: Charles15 | October 5, 2008 10:44 AM

The looney right is just not going to let facts get in their way of the mudfest that they so love to engage in. The Rezko and Ayers angle has been beaten to death over the past 8 months, it's been investigated by several major newspapers and magazines and none of them found it to be of consequence. Take off your tinfoil hats, there is no vast "MSM" conspiracy with these stories, they just don't have any substance behind them. You sound like little babies that can't take "no" for an answer, you just keep repeating the same crap over and over and over. It's tedious and boring. Obviously, you can't win an argument based on McCain's positions because he's flip-flopped so many times you don't really know what they are.

McCain's own closet is full of skeletons and scandals (Keating 5, etc), so it's really hard to paint him as a "reformer" without snickering at the absurdity of such a statement. The "Maverick" tag is a joke and everyone knows it.

This is why your party is going to get absolutely destroyed next month: You've selected a geriatric, scandal-ridden, egomaniacal, tantrum-throwing dolt as your candidate. His selection of Yukon Barbie as a running mate just confirms his poor judgement and decision making process. It's over. Good luck in 2016.

Posted by: sobugged | October 5, 2008 10:35 AM

What a sad end for what used to be a man of character.

Posted by: justjunkemail
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you want sad?
you just learned obama blocked a Bill that would have stopped this fanniemae mess and you are still voting for him. THAT'S SAD!!!

yu just learned that in these dire financial times, obama tried to slip 500 MILLION OF THIS BAILOUT MONEY TO ACORN..... THAT'S SUPERSAD!!!

and that's reality!!!! AINT THAT SAD?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:32 AM

A simple question: Did Ayers bomb more innocent humans than McCain?

Posted by: harried
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SIMPLE QUESTION:
WHAT INNOCENT HUMAN DID MCCAIN BOMB?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:29 AM


If YOU TYPE IN ALL-CAPS

Posted by: sobugged
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if you get on someone on a BLOG for typing in CAPS IF THEY SO DESIRE, YOUR ARE A QUADDRUPALET IDIOTtttttttttttTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!! !!!!!!
choose issues, not font!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:28 AM

Another example of Sarah Failin running at the mouth. This is exactly why John McCain no longer has the opportunity to win over my vote. Instead of focusing on issues his campaign now turns to lies, misquotes, and half-truths.

What a sad end for what used to be a man of character.

Posted by: justjunkemail | October 5, 2008 10:25 AM

these polls havent been right since the beginning of the primaries. i remember PA and how obama overspend in excess of 33MILLION and how the polls and the talking heads claimed it was over for Clinton.......HRC WON PA!


i remember the polls and how Oprah was behind Obama in CA; and Stevie Wonder came out in CA for obama and how Maria Shriver was bacing obama in CA, and how Caroline was traveling to CA to show her support for Obama, and the GIANTIC CROWDS that showed up for Obama in CA but not for Clinton.

HRC won CALIFORNIA!

all this poll hype is driven by the obama camp to outwit the other side. when the dust settles america will not put this country into the hands of someone they dont trust. PERIOD!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:25 AM

RE: ChooseTheBestCandidate

If YOU TYPE IN ALL-CAPS, you are basically telling the whole world that you are a total idiot. Learn to use the internet before you post your drivel. Then, learn to spell, because you suck at that, too.

Posted by: sobugged | October 5, 2008 10:24 AM

A "smear" has to be untrue -- you cannot "smear" someone with the truth -- so, you just "smeared" Palin.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 10:18 AM

Obama was eight years old during Ayers radical days. The Bill Ayers of his youth is not the man Obama met. Bill Ayers did his time. Aren't we supposed to forgive, isn't that a "Christen"value? Bill Ayers has gone on to be a productive member of society. And well respected in many circles. Ayers worked with Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley in shaping the city's school reform program, and was one of three co-authors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge grant proposal that in 1995 won $49.2 million over five years for public school reform. Since 1999 he has served on the nine-member board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an anti-poverty, philanthropic foundation established in 1941. Anti poverty, my god he is a radical!
Besides the fact there is NO proof that Obama has a personal relationship with Mr. Ayers. It reminds me a little of the ken starr days, the republicans were rabid and were positive they were going to nail Clinton, until Larry Flynt offered that reward... so many skeletons in so many closets.

Posted by: jwald1 | October 5, 2008 4:45 AM | Report abuse
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how old was he when Ayers refused to apologize just 6 months ago?

how old was obama when he went into befcoming friends with Ayers?

how old was obama in 2003 when Ayers was on the cover of TIME MAGAZINE stomping on an american Flag?


STOP TRYING TO FIND EXCUSES FOR THIS MAN. YOU SOUND LIKE A POLYGAMIST WIFE - - justifying what you know to be wrong and not caring if you lose your children in the mix as long as you please the CULT LEADER. this is totally embarrassing that some of you would do whatever you can to dismiss the obvious just for your own pride's sake.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:18 AM

This attack coming from Palin whose husband is a secessionist? And Palin question Obama's patriotism?? Palin, please before you casting stones about, why don't you look to the person you bed on a nigthly basis.

Posted by: elle330033 | October 5, 2008 10:16 AM

This kind of smear is one of the primary reasons I can't ever vote for a Republican

Posted by: jswallow
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just how do you negotiate the sad facts about obama?

seems its your own pride yu cant deal with.

by now YOU KNOW BETTER.

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN OBAMA TELLING YOU HIS CHILDREN WENT TO SCHOOL WITH AYERS CHILDREN... i mean seriouly, how do you swallow that? with a bottle of whisky or raw egg yokes?

how do tell yourself the person you hold in high esteem is the man who told you he "forgot" he took $250,000 from a bribery man in Chicago?

how do you accept obama thought himself, "lucky" to get $300,000 off of his home through anotere deal with Rezko?

i mean seriously - just what do you say to yourself in your head that justifies that for you?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:14 AM

thrh:

Assuming Osama lives another 40 years -- writes a book justifying Muslim jihad and keeps teaching hate of America -- he won't still be called a terrorist?

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 10:13 AM

She should be careful about pointing out the (weak) associations of others. Has Caribou Barbie forgotten that she MARRIED an anti-American secessionist?

Posted by: rmiller19 | October 5, 2008 10:09 AM

FACT 1. OBAMA LIED HE FORGOT HE TOOK MONEY FROM REZKO.

FACT 2. OBAMA TRIED TO DIRECT SOME OF BAILOUT MONEY TO ACORN.

FACT 3. OBAMA LIED THAT JFK PAID HIS DAD'S TICKET TO UNITED STATES

FACT 4. OBAMA LIED THAT HE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT NAFTA-CANADIAN CONVERSATIONS

FACT 5. OBAMA LIED THAT HE WAS NEVER A MUSLIM WHEN HIS SCHOOL RECORDS SAY OTHERWISE

FACT 6. OBAMA LIED HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT REV. WRIGHT DESPITE CHURCHING WITH HIM FOR 20 YEARS.

FACT 7. OBAMA DENIED HE WAS A REZKO'S PARTY

FACT 8. OBAMA VOTED AGANST MCCAINS PROPOSAL TO ADDRESS FANNIE-FREDDMACK SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL

FACT 9. OBAMA DID NOT PRESENT HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IN HIS ANSWER TO LAWSUIT CHALLENGING IT.

FCT.10. OBAMA LIED THAT KISSINGER SAID HE WOULD MEET WITHOUT PRE-CONDIITONS.

FCT.11. OBAMA LIED THAT HE EVER SAID HE WOULD MEET WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS.

FCT.12. OBAMA TOOK MONEY FROM FAILING FANNIE, FREDDIEMACK AND HIRED THEIR PRINCIPALS

FCT.13 THREE GAY MEN IN CHICGO ARE DEAD AND THEY WERE ALL FRIENDS OF OBAMA'S ... INTERESTING AT THE VERY LEAST.

FACT.14 OBAMA LIED THAT HIS CHILDREN WENT TO SCHOOL WITH WM. AYERS' CHILDREN.

FACT. 15. u bought it all!

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 10:08 AM

This kind of smear is one of the primary reasons I can't ever vote for a Republican on a national ticket. It is perfectly OK for Republicans to accuse any of their opponents of being subhuman, terrorists, devoid of morals and values.

The Republican party is the part of values and Christianity? That is so laughable. They are maybe pharisees - those who pray loudly on the street corner to be seen of men but with no real connection to Christ or his teachings.

Every time Rush, Hannity, Palin, or some other mouth piece of Republican hatred talks about those of us on the left hating American, hating Christians, lacking family values.... it is like a kick in the teeth. These people have no shame.

Posted by: jswallow | October 5, 2008 10:04 AM

wes1155:

Don't worry; she will get to Rev. Wrong. Given Biden's age, I don't know that he was joking. As for the definition of "pal" -- would you agree that Obama was a "pal" of Jeremiah Wright -- we'll have to agree to disagree as to Ayers. Anyone who had served on a board with me and helped launch my political career would be my "pal" but I guess that's just me. YMMV

Everyone else who thinks Ayers is not a terrorist:

I already conceded he was not convicted. Neither has Osama bin Laden.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 10:04 AM

The problem with this shallow and ignorant gun-totting, moose hunting hockey mum with lipstick from Alaska is that she reinforces and consolidates all the adverse prejudices not only against guns and moose-hunting, but also against hockey, mums, lipsticks and Alaska.

She is implying that the fact that she read NYT once, made her an expert on contemporary news;

just like the fact that she could see Russia from Alaska made her an expert on foreign policy;

just like the fact that Alaska has oil and gas made her an expert on energy policy;

just like that fact that she winked everytime she tried to make a point (and useless ones as such) and appear folksy made her connect with voters;

just like the fact that she barely survived a major disaster in her VP debates, made her a seasoned debater on various issues;

just like the fact that her 17 year old daughter's child (conceived out of wedlock) will be about the same age as her own child, made her family-orientated. (By the way, is this considered a positive attribute aligned with the family values that her Conservative supporters argue so vehemently for?)

No matter how much spin Palin she and McCain put on their campaign, this team has been and will be a major disaster, if they get elected, dragging the rest of us with them into the abyss that their close buddy George "Mission Accomplished" Bush and his cronies have done over the past 8 years.

Posted by: Patriot3438 | October 5, 2008 10:00 AM

hey, you all: pls engage.
NYT endorses obama.
the article was intentionaly watered down.
the ANNENBERG CHALLENGE papers are now public information: CLEARLY YU WILL SEE OBAMA WORKED WITH AYERS FOR FOUR YEARS.

engage: obama jus said last week himself he hasnt talked with ayers for over a year and a half while his campaign tries to say it's been years and years ago.

engage: axelrod himself said last year that Ayers and Obama were "friends," and they happen to live in the same neigoborhood.

by the way does anyone know why ayers and his wife went into teaching? GO DO SOME READING: the whole reason was to influence as many peoPle as they possibly could in radical ways adverse to american thinking.

there is a reason Ayers has not apologized - - he hasnt changed his way of thinking. JUST ASK HIM POINT BLANK.... HE WILL WALK AWAY FROM YOU.

if you havent done your homework yet, get a crash course. time is of the essence, but dont take my word - - just go do some digging on obama, ayers, rezko, auchi. you might also want to look at Jeremiah Wright's early years too, if you have enough time. IT WILL SIMPLY ASTOUND YOU.

IF YOU THINK OBAMA JUST "HAPPEN" ON THE SCENE AND chose THIS time to run for the presidency, prepare yourself for a turn in the novel.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 9:58 AM

Thank goodness Sarah is finally reading a newspaper! Maybe she will learn some opinions about herself....and correct some of her bizarre behaviors.

Give me the 'brainiac' instead of the 'maniac' any time. Barack Obama needs every ounce of intelligence he has, in order to lead this country. Some old fart and a ditzy chick with a chip on her shoulder the size of Alaska just isn't gonna cut it now. Or ever, for that matter. VOTE WISELY!!

Posted by: realteacher | October 5, 2008 9:55 AM

Am I the only one who feels that the American Republicans are being conned by their own leadership - and not for the first time?

Bush is friendly with the islamists of Saudi. Not only has he been seen holding hands with one of the most influential princes - he kissed him. The images are on Google. And those people are active NOW. Want to guess who much those guys have influenced Bush's thinking over the past 20 years?

I doubt Obama ever kissed Ayers. Who is not running an extremist country or even university.

Posted by: asoders22 | October 5, 2008 9:55 AM

...So, 40 year old history is now news....The Vietnam War as a travesty in this nation back then, so when the RNC/GOP lie machine are unable to talk about the real problems that need to be discussed, economy, health care, war, unemployment, aids, they come up with this crapola....

peeeuuu Palin should keep her idiotic and repetitive mouth shut...with her Caribou Barbie pull string in her back....

What about news from just 2 weeks ago....

Katie: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part as your foreign policy experience, what do you mean by that?

Sarah: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side... the land... uhh boundary... that we have with uhhh Canada. It it it's fff-funny that a comment like that was uh kind of made to...... uhh... character.......uhh......I don't know.....you know.......reporters...

Katie: Mocked?

Sarah: Yeah, mocked. I guess that's the word. Yeah. umm....

Katie: Well, explain to why that enhances your foreign policy credentials?

Sarah: Well, it certainly does. Because our......our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They are in the state that I am the executive of.

Katie: Have you ever been in an negotiations for example with the Russians

Sarah: We have trade missions back and forth we... we... It's very important when you even consider nation security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and and uh comes into the a a a air space of the United States of America wh wh where do they go? It's Alaska, it's just right over the border. It it is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that.... an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there they are right next to umm our state.

I agree with Jack Cafferty at CNN and his take on that CBS Interview...

Watch that report @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

McCaint is no hero...but peeeuuu Palin is a hero sandwich...full of baloney

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 5, 2008 9:54 AM

Now that Palin has played the terrorist card can we bring up her association with, and her husbands membership in, the Alaska Indepedence Party which has as one of its central planks seccession from the USA? This secessionist group was founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years.

Posted by: jswallow | October 5, 2008 9:53 AM

1. who presented a plan to avoid this FANNIEMAE MESS?
.....who voted AGAINST THAT PLAN?

2. who has received more in funds from FannieMae in his short 3 years in Senate than a Senator received in a whole 26 YEARS IN SENATE?

3. who proved to you that they can be bought by taking $250,000 from Rezko under the table?
AND WHO HAS REFUSED ANY EARMARKS FOR 26 YEARS?

4. who has refused to submit ALL his medical records.
and who has brought them for reporters to see?

5. who presented their birth certificate for scrutiny, and WHO IS STILL TELLING US IF WE WANT TO SEE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE WE NEED TO GO AND SEE A "PICTURE" OF IT ON A 'WEB PAGE'??????

squarely on the head... our problem is that we are not applying ourselves. we are to busy being cute and no guts to admit some of us made the wrong choice when we backed a certain LIAR OF A CANDIDATE.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | October 5, 2008 9:50 AM

How casual could it be considering that obama planned his senate campaign in ayers home...
How about no more lies obama...

Posted by: DwightHCollins | October 5, 2008 9:47 AM

If Palin had paid any attention to the NYTimes article, she would be accusing Obama of "palling around" with an Education Professor.

Posted by: thrh | October 5, 2008 9:46 AM

We’ve all known someone like Sarah — and most of us have roundly disliked her.

She is a woman who pretends abject innocence as she advances a topic — and shrugs helplessly, and wrinkles her nose cutely — that 'everyone' is talking about. Maybe even frowns a cute little frown - because - oh darn - it’s *just too bad* isn’t it?

So now she is *forced* to raise this *omigosh* unpleasant topic … but it’s not her fault *shrug* - it’s really not even her choice! The New York Times *made* her do it.

And if she had read the article she uses as her rationale, she would have to confess that all the sentences that follow her *rueful, don't-blame-me* preamble were completely untrue.

But apparently that kind of honesty isn't obligatory in her brand of Christianity.

And why would someone with her extremely recent and currently growing track record of lies and distortions let something like the facts hold her back?

Totally. Unqualified. To. Serve.

Posted by: Vigorish | October 5, 2008 9:34 AM

Sarah Palin's reading of the NYT article would be the equivalent of reading today's Post article on McCain's time as a POW and concluding that his "confession" makes him a Communist sympathizer.

Sarah, facts matter.

Posted by: VirginiaVoter08 | October 5, 2008 9:20 AM

I once went to a Black Panther rally in Watts when I was 13 and cheered the speeches of Angela Davis and Bobby Seale. So I guess I am a terrorist also?

++++++++++++++++++

There is a double standard. Hussein, the empty suit, gets to get away with no vetting of his past, recent or past.

Other candidates in the past get to be knocked out of the race for things like: sexual conduct, things that they said 30 years ago, political affiliations in the past...

So, yes. Hussein should be questioned about his RECENT relations with Ayers. This is not about when he was 10 years old. This is about his political career being shaped by these radical leftist in the last 20 years up to today.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 9:13 AM

I agree with you fgerald0204. I am much more concerned about the company John McCain is currently keeping. The associations of Charles Black are truly frightening. And let us not forget whose campaign effectively called America a nation of whiners.

Posted by: VirginiaVoter08 | October 5, 2008 9:10 AM

I'm still wondering which brand of diapers McNasty prefers and if Palin changes them?
I also still believe Cindy would love a young black man like Obama since her old, shell of a man surely cannot perform.
I bet Cindy pops her pain killer and lusts after Barack.
Maybe Sarah could send Todd over to help out the frustrated Cindy?

Posted by: mookieland121 | October 5, 2008 9:09 AM

I once went to a Black Panther rally in Watts when I was 13 and cheered the speeches of Angela Davis and Bobby Seale. So I guess I am a terrorist also?

Republicans are either the most gullible people in the World or the most evil. Or, more likely, a sad mix of both.

Obama is a good, principled man, not a twisted, brain-damaged, angry one like McCon.

Posted by: spatula | October 5, 2008 9:05 AM

Why do you support the war? How can you support bombing people, for years?

The war was won a long time ago! What are we doing there now I have no idea, unless it relates to the flow of oil. Or to the sale of weapons.

If Obama and McCain raise the "white flag" it's to our people. We are demanding that the war ends.

We demand that the government yield power to us.

How can they say we will not give up to the American people?

What are we fighting for?

--thomp
http://noflyzonepictures.com/sarah-palin.html

Posted by: thomp | October 5, 2008 9:02 AM

I guess having a husband who "belonged" to a separtist party is OK, but having a guy living in your neighborhood who was a anti-war activist in the 1960's is wrong. Did you ever hear the term "sleeping with the enemy". This woman just can't tell the truth. She cut property taxes, but forgot to say she raised the sales tax. She left the city of Wasilla over $25 million in debt and exposed to a contiuing law suit because she built a sports complex on land that the city didn't own. He uneducated husband is so involved in the day/day running of Alaskan government he attends her private meetings and is copied on state correspondence and emails.He is claiming executive privilage over the firing of the police commissioner for not firing the governors brother-in-law, who he contacted over twenty-five times. Stopped the bridge to nowhere after congress killed it, then built a $28 million road to nowhere that stops where the bridge was to be built. Forgot to mention that there is a second bridge to nowhere, even more costly that she still supports. She is against pork/earmarks but receives more pork/earmarks than any other state, despite the fact Alaska ranks 47th in state population. She hired a lobbing firm as mayor to get more pork/earmarks. Spoke publicly about banning certain books at the city library, but got nowhere. Her wealth of knowlege on energy comes from serving one year on a politicly appointed board. The pipeline she touts building, if built, won't start construction for over ten years. For two years she was a director on the accused senator Ted Stevens' excellence in public service group. She signed into law the largest budget($6.6 billion)in Alaskan history, after touting all the cuts she made. Refuses to live in the capitol which costs tax payers nearly $100k in travel and per diem for her & her family.On & on & on &on......................

Posted by: tmccbo | October 5, 2008 9:00 AM

The republicans and John McCain with the help of News Corp's Rupert Murdock ( Fox News, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the racist crowd) hoping the people would forget the republicans have just bankrupted this country. They will try to smear the senator by associating him with William Ayers and the charity organization whose head was a republican. The man did this when 40 years ago when Barrack was eight. These people must think we are really stupid. What must come to light is that the republicans are a bunch of crooks and John McCain, along with his buddy Phil Graham, has had his hands in every major financial crisis that has rippled this country - from the big S&L corruption crisis (Keating five anyone?) to this current one where he was the chief deregulator. Does John McCain really want to go there? McCain on his 70th birthday was on a boat off Montenegro with Anne Hathaway and her criminal boyfriend with a "few ladies." Also, does McCain want the fact to come out that he has covered his wife's drug use and that she stole from her own "charity?" And of course that famous plane trip with the female lobbyist. What about John McCain and Charlie Black association with Jonas Savimbi, the terrorist who killed thousands and was backed by the apartheid regime in South Africa , while McCain was doing his own little thing over here by fostering the continuity of Jim Crow with the confederate flag and by voting against the bill to honor Dr. Martin Luther King.

Posted by: fgerald0204 | October 5, 2008 8:55 AM

I guess this just goes to show that you can put on an act for a night (she looked rather pleasant talking with Joe Biden after the debate) but it can't be sustained for long. It also shows (since I read the same article) that she can't actually comprehend what she is reading. She takes great liberty with the truth and has such blind ambition that she will lie her way into office. They keep saying a McCain presidency will not be a third Bush term, but they are running a third Bush campaign. Hard to see how they would be any different.

Posted by: puppiesandkitties | October 5, 2008 8:55 AM

The hideous RNC Fox News "Fox and Friends" had a feature this morning charging Obama is "indoctrinating and exploiting" children who have written and who are singing songs to support him as if they were child laborers in China while the "talent" (obviously all from the Liberty University school of swift-boating) smirk and grin and grimace.

"Fair and balanced", right? Or just right
-far right.

Posted by: coloradodog | October 5, 2008 8:54 AM

If the McCain-Palin Campaign believes it's ok to smear facts about a vague association between Obama and Ayers, then it's perfectly fine for the Obama campaign to as the American people if they are comfortable entrusting John McCain to regulate Wall after being implicated in the S&L Bailout as a member of The Keating Five! All factual claims, and just as disingenuous as Palin citing an article that asserts there was no real association, as proof there was an association.

Posted by: David-F-NYC | October 5, 2008 8:53 AM

Only one candidate running for the Presidency has been rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising "poor judgment" - John McCain.

Posted by: VirginiaVoter08 | October 5, 2008 8:51 AM

"This idiot made fun of Obama writing 2 memoirs."

LOL.

They were FICTION writings, not "memoirs".

Hussein's ego is so gigantic that he pretended to write "memories" at the tender age of...20 something!

His intentions were to get himself known for the presidential campaign he had in mind since he was 10.

Palin...the only one who had the guts to bring Ayers into the public discussion. The MSM had avoided him like a plague.

I heard the government is giving away money for free. Who wants some?

*********

Definition of dope...


see above

Posted by: netwitone | October 5, 2008 8:47 AM

It is going to be such a heartbreak when so many liberals....and driveby media....finally figure out that they have been following the wrong candidate....Nobama...all along. What will they do? Continue to support the man-child who was (and is) way over his head, ran with the wrong bunch who hated America, got free education from America and then hates her, ran with drugs and the like.....or finally decide anything is better than Nobama. If they would just read a little before they just fell in love with Nobama, this would have never happened.

Posted by: Plato2 | October 5, 2008 8:47 AM

"This idiot made fun of Obama writing 2 memoirs."

LOL.

They were FICTION writings, not "memoirs".

Hussein's ego is so gigantic that he pretended to write "memories" at the tender age of...20 something!

His intentions were to get himself known for the presidential campaign he had in mind since he was 10.

Palin...the only one who had the guts to bring Ayers into the public discussion. The MSM had avoided him like a plague.

I heard the government is giving away money for free. Who wants some?

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 8:47 AM

"This idiot made fun of Obama writing 2 memoirs."

LOL.

They were FICTION writings, not "memoirs".

Hussein's ego is so gigantic that he pretended to write "memories" at the tender age of...20 something!

His intentions were to get himself known for the presidential campaign he had in mind since he was 10.

Palin...the only one who had the guts to bring Ayers into the public discussion. The MSM had avoided him like a plague.

I heard the government is giving away money for free. Who wants some?

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 5, 2008 8:45 AM


Obama has still NOT denounced William Ayers. The guy is UNREPENTENT about bombing the Pentagon (so is al Qaeda by the way). That's what scares me!

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

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Absolutely not true - Obama has expressed his rejection of Ayers' Weatherman days, Ayers never bombed anything and was never tried on anything.

This is just a vicious smear by a bunch of unscrupulous people who cannot win an election the honest way. You smeared Gore, Clinton, and Kerry, now Obama.

Posted by: maggots | October 5, 2008 8:45 AM

Is not Sara Palins accusations of terrorism actionable? I definitely would sue if she called me that. Obama was far too young to know or actually understand the climate of the 60's. He is the age of my younger brother who politely stares at you when you even speak of things back then.

This women is nothing but a puppet doing McCain's dirty work. Now we can see why he wanted someone inexperienced and unknowledgeable and from a isolated area who has no clue about rest of the states.

Posted by: mac7 | October 5, 2008 8:45 AM

Oh My God! Hey y'all, Sarah reads, that too the liberal garbage NYT. Why didn't she say that to Katie Curic. Or did someone read it out to her?
This idiot made fun of Obama writing 2 memoirs. Unlike the top one on her ticket, Obama wrote them HIMSELF. She can read it, when she learns to write couple of sentences in good/correct English. For now, have somebody read it out to her (like the NYT article).
She rambles pointlessly in her hill-billy vocabulary & calls it folksy. Which pond did McCain get her from?

Posted by: sarvenk63 | October 5, 2008 8:39 AM

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/impulsively-unreflective-duo-inmccain.html


The Impulsively Unreflective Duo In..."McCain Goes Negative"


McCain paces the floor. He is cracking walnuts.

A walnut slips to the floor.

McCain: Damn nutcracker!

Sarah Palin is sitting in a chair at a desk. She is writing on a piece of paper: "J.M + S.P." This is then crossed out and replaced by "S.P. + J.M.". These alternating versions , the one before it always crossed out, continues down the page.

McCain: Well, the first plan didn't work. We tried to put them in a trance with the folksy ray, but they had their deflectors halfway raised. If only you hadn't called the commander in Afghanistan ""McClellan"

Palin: But...didn't you say they were fighting a civil war, Sir?

McCain looks at Palin silently. He is smiling but he is holding back anger.

McCain: "I think the time has come. We have to call in...Dr. Negative."

He pushes a large black button which is the only button on a red phone on his desk.

Dr. Negative immediately bursts through the door. He is carrying flyers, masking tape; telephone wires are wrapparound his arms hanging hanging in every way; the a tattered copy of the book "Accusations of Communism, Polygamy, Drug Use, Spousal Abuse, Fascism, Pedophilia, Miscegenation, Cannibalism, Terrorism and Adultery...for Dummies!" is rolled and stuffed in his left pocket, filled with bookmarks; he is dragging a Robocaller behind him, leashed to a chain.

Dr. Negative (quickly, eagerly): Did you hear? Obama was born in Bin Laden's subterranean bomb making factory, outside of U.S. lines. He was born on a pile of cocaine and dynamite--and the midwife was a Trotskyite!

McCain: Not yet, Dr. Negative. I want you to meet Sarah.

Sarah: Oh, we've already met.

Dr. Negative: That trooper went down! He poisoned the salmon milk at the Wasilla Bible school! With drugs made at a Leftist Satan worshiping collective! That you could see from Russia!

Sarah: You betcha'!

Sarah and Dr. Negative give each other a high five. Dr. Negative's telephone wires rattle on his arm as he does so, triggering the Robocaller, which starts playing "...illegitimate babies made in test tube factories in North Korea and sent to Chicago by Bill Ayers..."

Dr. Negative shuts off the Robocaller with an embarassed smile.

Dr. Negative: Just practicing.

There is a pause.

McCain: That's fine, Dr. Negative. That's fine. Because, now, I have a special job
for you. An important one.

Dr. Negative leaps into the air with excited glee. As he does, detritus falls to the floor--buttons saying "Election Day: Remember, the 3rd Tuesday in November!", business cards, reading "Push Polls Anonymous--We Call, They Fall", "Mongers On Call-No Rumor Too Far fetched"; Bandaids with purple hearts; mangled and dirty chads.

Dr. Negative: A new job! A special job! Oh, Mr. McCain! I'm ready! I'm ready!

Sarah watches from her chair, filing her nails.

McCain: Now, Dr. Negative. You have to make him seem radical...

Dr. Negative quickly pulls a can out of his right pocket, emblazoned with the word "Radical" He opens the top. Red and Black snakes fly out.

Dr. Negative: (eagerly, expectantly, hungrily) "Yes...Yes..."

McCain: You'll have to start rumors that are so inflammatory that they will spread like wildfire and will be started too late to stop them with the actual truth...

Dr. Negative pulls a gigantic grinder out of his left pocket. It is labeled "Rumor Mill". He turns the crank a few times. Hamsters, syringes, and Peace symbols fly out.

Dr. Negative: "Yes...Yes..."

He is salivating.

McCain: They will have to be so incredible, over-the-top, based on such tawdry and poorly sourced evidence, yet riddled with tempting minutia--bullet gauges, Google maps of supposed meetings and the like, that the right will eat them up, and start analyzing the minutia with adolescent glee.

Dr. Negative (Very calmly, matter of fact): Oh, that's easy. They'll eat anything.

Dr. Negative reaches into his back pocket, pulls out a manila envelope labeled "Minutia: So-called "Proof" for the Right". He empties it to the floor. Bullet gauge measures, outdated copies of Photoshop, paperbacks entitled "How to Use the Insane as Competent Witness", "The Faked Moon Landings! Roswell! And Other Believable Phenomena!" and "You TOO Can Be A Warrior--From Your Own Couch!" fall to the floor.

Sarah plucks out the "Faked Moon Landings" book. She starts reading.

McCain: We know how our girl loves to read.

Sarah stops, and begins fixing her hair in a hand mirror.

Now, Dr. Negative, there is one final task.

Dr. Negative: Yes, Mr. McCain?

McCain: It is very difficult. Very...dark.

Dr. Negative: (Leaning forward expectantly, his voice quivering with excitement): Yes, Mr. McCain, Yes?

McCain: You will have to play the card that they played against me. Do you understand?

The room becomes silent. Sarah stops looking at herself, and looks towards the center of the room where McCain and Dr. Negative are staring at each others.

Dr. Negative: You mean...(eyes widened with disbelief. His telephone wires are quietly shaking as he shivers).

McCain (nodding): Yes.

Dr. Negative slowly removes from his jacket pocket what seems to be an ordinary pack of playing cards. They are labeled "Joker" brand. He takes a penknife from his pocket, and slowly slices the covering cellophane. There is a slight and distant roar. He looks at McCain.

McCain nods.

Dr. Negative then slowly removes the red ribbon encircling the cellophane at the top of the pack. He inserts the penknife--holding it from it very farthest end--and flips open the top of the pack.

Smoke begins to pour from the top of the pack, thick, acrid smoke. It quickly fills the room, covering all that is in sight.

McCain (shouting amidst the sound of smoke rushing into the room): And remember--no fingerprints!

Next episode: The smoke is cleared.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/impulsively-unreflective-duo-inmccain.html

Posted by: robthewsoncamb | October 5, 2008 8:38 AM

Why would Sarah admit having her own copy of the NYT rag?

Posted by: blooker681 | October 5, 2008 8:37 AM

The Obama campaign should have as an ad: "Can Governor Palin be trusted with the office of the Vice Presidency? In that role, she would be required to read, and understand, vital briefings and documents. Just recently, Governor Palin demonstrated that she cannot comprehend even a simple newspaper article, when she cited a New York Times article to claim that Barack Obama "palled around with a terrorist." The article in fact said that Obama and William Ayers did not know each other well. We've already had a war based on faulty reading of intelligence. We can't trust Sarah Palin to get it right when she's given something to read."

Posted by: hitpoints | October 5, 2008 7:55 AM

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She did the same thing in the debate. She lied about Obama not wanting to fund the troops. She lied about Obama voting to raise taxes 94 times. I have the article that goes over all 94 votes, and it's all a lie. Eleven votes that she's counting would have increased taxes on those making more than $1 million a year - in order to fund programs such as Head Start and school nutrition programs, or veterans' health care. She don't even know what Obama's voting record is. By the way she lies about McCain's record of reform I'd say she don't know his voting record either. She's just a total air-head that does everything McCain tells her.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 8:31 AM

Serial lying, deceit, character assassinations and personal attacks are acceptable to the loyalist continuing to support the Palin/McCain ticket. These are the same hard core conservatives who kept G. Bush in office for a second term and failed to learn from their mistakes. It is obvious that these nut cases are in dire need of therapy.

Posted by: mbaker1 | October 5, 2008 8:23 AM

So, lemme get this straight . . .

Obama is "guilty" by association, according to Caribou Barbie's logic(?), b/c he sat on the board of directors with a guy who believed that blowing up buildings which were symbols of the tyranny that he opposed, was OK . . .

And that is somehow different from her's and John Insane's association with the right-wing nutcases who advocate blowing up abortion clinics . . .

Yes, I see the distinction quite clearly.

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | October 5, 2008 8:20 AM

Oh, god... here we go...

So, okay, if Obama has ties with terrorist, then why was he allowed in the senate? So, what, the US government is stupid enough not to check someone's background before allowing them to serve in the senate...? Why isn't Obama in jail yet, than? Why isn't he being held for questioning? Why hasn't he been held for questioning in the past?
Why hasn't the GOP been attacking him with this nonsense from the beginning?

I'll tell you why, it's because the GOP knows that half of this country is dumb enough to be scared into believing them and that there support will soon be none existent if they don't do someting. They are scooping to a new low to try to win the election. How ignorant would a person have to be to buy into this?

Pretty damn ignorant, that for sure! Wow! how stupid… how desperate... I would be embarrassed to be Mc Cain or Palin.
Wow, and what’s even more concerning, is all of the people posting here, who are buying into it…
Wow… Whatever!!!

Posted by: Saints1 | October 5, 2008 8:19 AM

By the way, I bet that we can unearth a lot of dirty secrets on Sarah Palin too. Since she has engaged herself in this type of mud-slinging contest, I am sure she won't be able to complain if and when the Obama campaign engage in something similar against her. Given her lack of intellectual power, it is very possible that she has forgotten many things that she may have done in her youth, that she simply does not want anybody to know about. Hmmmm.. I am salivating already.

Posted by: thisworld | October 5, 2008 8:16 AM

Sarah is the biggest fraud we have ever seen on such a grand scale. Like many I know have said, she doesn't even seem qualified to run Alaska but then again, it is the problem for Alaska.

Posted by: thisworld | October 5, 2008 8:12 AM

This is one more example of how she models Dick Cheney: she likes to cite the NYT when it suits her purposes.
And, like Dick Cheney, she might have planted the story before citing it. (Just kidding, maybe.)

Posted by: scpato | October 5, 2008 8:10 AM

Obama unleashed a tough new TV ad that charged McCain had protected tax breaks for insurance companies that hide profits offshore.

Without mentioning dates or the companies involved, the commercial implies McCain went to the Atlantic Ocean island of Bermuda with corporate executives and, while there, "pledged to protect tax breaks for American corporations that hide their profits offshore. And grateful insurance company executives and their lobbyists who benefit from the tax scheme, gave McCain $50,000."

There was no immediate response from the McCain campaign. The attack on the Arizona senator was the latest in a series of increasingly negative television spots by both sides in the historic and close contest for the White House.

I can't believe it. Tucker Bigmouth didn't try to lie his way out of it. That's because John McCain loooves his corporate tax loopholes.

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*•. .•* *Obama/Biden* o8!! Vote4 REAL Change!!
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Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 8:03 AM

The Obama campaign should have as an ad: "Can Governor Palin be trusted with the office of the Vice Presidency? In that role, she would be required to read, and understand, vital briefings and documents. Just recently, Governor Palin demonstrated that she cannot comprehend even a simple newspaper article, when she cited a New York Times article to claim that Barack Obama "palled around with a terrorist." The article in fact said that Obama and William Ayers did not know each other well. We've already had a war based on faulty reading of intelligence. We can't trust Sarah Palin to get it right when she's given something to read."

Posted by: hitpoints | October 5, 2008 7:55 AM

Obama's association with William Ayers is just unacceptable.
Ayers and Obama DID NOT just serve on a charitable board with each other. Ayers is documentated as a supporter and fund raiser for Obama in Illinois. Obama attended fund raisers at the home of the home-grown terrorist Bill Ayers.

Bill Ayers was a member of the Weathermen Underground who put men, women, and children at risk by blowing up federal buildings in the U.S. Today he is unrepentant and wishes he could have blown up some more buidlings in America.

How is he different from Bin Laden?!

WHY would a candidate for the presidency associate with such a man let alone attend fund raisers at this house?!

It's hard to believe that either Hillary Clinton or John McCain would have willingly associated themselves with a man seeks the destruction of his own country?!!!

What in the world does this say about Obama's Judgement?!

Posted by: BruceMcDougall | October 5, 2008 6:48

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Good God man wake up already! Why don't you listen to some of the stories that our Veterans are telling. Bush lied us into a war after 9,11 and our soldiers went over there looking for payback and innocent Men Women and Children were blown to pieces. The numbers are coming up at 1.2 million innocent people. Do you have any Idea what that terrorist Bush has done to that country. Did you see the Documentary on TV about Bush's torture camps. We're talking about innocent people being scooped and tortured to find out if they know anything about terrorists. No charges! No trial! Held and tortured for years because that sick SOB Bush felt like it. Why do you think he passed a law to free himself of war crimes going all the way back to 2001. Can you believe freeing yourself of war crimes. What's it going to take for you to open your eyes? Do you know that Obama was 8 years old when Ayers did that stuff? Is Ayers a marked terrorist right now? The only thing that's unacceptable is the stupid nonsense your posting on this board.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 7:42 AM

Desperate tactics by beaten & hopelessly out-of-touch nominees of an intellectually bankrupt party that has nothing positive to say. Palin does not deserve to be taken seriously. Her wild attacks serve primarily as fodder for Saturday Night Live.
Palin's views (e.g., doesn't believe that human behavior effects climate; wants to censor library books & teach creationism in public school science classes; ban abortion for rape & incest victims; etc.) are the radical positions in this election. Palin's lack of any ability to think coherently is pathetic. Once she strays a bit from rehearsed canned talking points spoon-fed & drilled into her by her handlers, she's clueless.
For a 72 yo man with recurrent melanoma (a poor prognosis tumor) who refuses to allow an honest & open look at his medical records to choose this grossly unqualified,unbelievably vacuous right- wing nut to be a heartbeat away from the presidency is a deliberate attempt to deceive the American people & shows the contempt he feels for this country.
This latest chapter just provides more proof of how McCain's whole campaign is not about "America First", it's all about "McCain First."

Posted by: DoctorB | October 5, 2008 7:39 AM

Who am I?

1. I am a religious zealot who is anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-environment, anti-science, anti-women, anti-multiculturism, climate change denier, pro-guns, pro-drilling, pro-creationism?

2. I don't practice what I preach when it comes to conservative family values as evidenced by my 17 year old unwed and pregnant teenage daughter and my eloping with a guy after we found out I was pregnant

3. Although I am a accountable to the people, claim that my life is "an open book" and am bound by the laws of my country, I refuse to comply with a subpeona to answer allegations I abused my power

4. Because I am brainless and gullible, I regurgitate political slogans given to me by my superior, without stopping to think about the meaning or whether or not I truly believe them

Answer: Pitbull Palin

Posted by: kbuckingham777 | October 5, 2008 7:37 AM

I thought George W. Bush was the worst thing that ever happened to this country until I got a good look at Sarah Palin. John McCain is showing early signs of Alzheimers. My mother died after a long battle with the illness and I recognize it when I see it. The scary part is, his campaign knows it and they are getting ready to anoint the New Apostolic Reformation, Joel's Army, Later Rain, Third Wave Movement, Manifest Sons of God, Committee on National Policy, fundamentalist Evangelical Sarah Palin as the next President of the United States, five minutes after McCain is sworn in. According to Sarah Palin's beliefs, Joel's Army is prophesied to become an Armageddon-ready military force of young people with a divine mandate to physically impose Christian "dominion" on non-believers. Sarah Palin is as radical in her beliefs as the Islamic fundamentalist terrorists are in theirs and just as crazy.

Posted by: miesque | October 5, 2008 7:30 AM

Obama's association with William Ayers is just unacceptable.
Ayers and Obama DID NOT just serve on a charitable board with each other. Ayers is documentated as a supporter and fund raiser for Obama in Illinois. Obama attended fund raisers at the home of the home-grown terrorist Bill Ayers.

Bill Ayers was a member of the Weathermen Underground who put men, women, and children at risk by blowing up federal buildings in the U.S. Today he is unrepentant and wishes he could have blown up some more buidlings in America.

How is he different from Bin Laden?!

WHY would a candidate for the presidency associate with such a man let alone attend fund raisers at this house?!

It's hard to believe that either Hillary Clinton or John McCain would have willingly associated themselves with a man seeks the destruction of his own country?!!!

What in the world does this say about Obama's Judgement?!


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Definition of liar


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Posted by: netwitone | October 5, 2008 7:23 AM

Listening to Sarah tell everyone about Obama's terrorist friends was hilarious. She's back to her 12 year old self and her audience is just as bad. She says, I was reading the New York Times, WOOoooooooo and it seems that Barack Obama, WOOooooooo is palling around with terrorists WOOooooooo! Ha! McCain's gonna make a fool of himself next week. He's going to go over the top and ruin what credibility he has left. You'd think he would've smartened up by now and realized that these moronic attacks are the reason why people won't vote for him. How many times can you pull the same stunt and expect get away with it. People have had it. I don't think there's anything he could do to win this election. Except cheat.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 7:01 AM

John McSame's late father-in-law and employer, Jim Hensley, and Bill Ayers have a lot in common.

For example, both are convicted felons; both have been linked to unsavory organizations in their past (Ayers the Weather Underground, Hensley the Mafia); both launched the presidential careers of the two 2008 presidential candidates; and both went on to become well respected citizens later in life.

And any discussion about the relationship between Tony Rezko and Obama, should not be over shadowed by Googling McSame's “gangsterish” links to Jim Hensley (father-in-law and employer), Kemper Marley (business partner with Hensley), Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonanno (gambling partner), and Charles Keeting (partner in crime). For some real fun Google John McCain and Gangsters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/us/politics/23mccain.html?em=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1219680747-ku+Djf93sq3/JQNloEAhdA
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Posted by: valskeet | October 5, 2008 6:54 AM

This supports my suspicion that Palin is unsuitable, possibly dangerous as a president. She is obviously incapable of assessing information properly.

Would you vote for a president who might start a nuclear war on similar flimsy grounds?

Considering that McCain has been operated for the aggressive skin cancer, malignant Melanoma, which is difficult to cure, there is a significant risk that she will take over.

See also my article: "The president should be selected on scientific grounds" at http://www.psrast.org/selectingpresidents.htm

Posted by: drgrandville | October 5, 2008 6:52 AM

Shameful. I find it unbelieveably outrageous that Sen McCain and Gov Palin would stoop so low as to attack a fellow American citizen's character, especially when they know it's a lie. What would Jesus do?

Posted by: papaedde | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

“Whether it’s from Russia or Sarah, with love … we must be clear on an antidote.”

Excerpt:

A CAMPAIGN OF BLOOD - IN A BAPTISM OF HYPOCRISY

If all the beloved and enduringly missed, heroic individuals [America’s children], deployed to the killing fields of North Vietnam to the streets of downtown Baghdad whom non-judiciary administrations did and are yet sacrificing; that have met and will meet with the unfortunate fate of having their names itched on walls of granite, (Tombstones), perpendicular to the Earth’s southern hemisphere, had been given the choice of a grave or to be delayed (POW), it would have been a no brainer… Their most resolute and solemn echo of valor, to date, is reflective, if not predicated in the wisdom of Barack Obama…

To lend an ear in allegiance to any persistence in the rattling of the saber and the blood, glistening thereupon - is to adopt one’s living and dependence upon it - thusly; by it, ye shall surely perish… By contrast, Obama has chosen to embrace a more eloquent [Christly], and profound (POW)… The (POWs), whom taught him from childhood that he, could not only trust them, but, that even at the eleventh hour they would be there to help him do that witch is righteous… Wherefore, Barack learned to depend and draw upon the humility and selflessness, enshrined in the heroes (POWs), of his own house (heart)… “Whereby, he has seen America as it should be: a new dawn of faith in a more righteous POW, the [POWER OF WOMEN], whom will put country first, in ushering forth a righteous referendum on America’s impending veracity; the John McCain(s), notwithstanding.”

McCain, of course, understands well, that much of his support is not as much about his candidacy as it is a slight on Obama’s ethnicity: undermined by America’s endemic tradition of hate and bigotry. These are the same people that denied John McCain the presidency on his first run, in 2000: So, why the sudden bosom camaraderie? He has the same experience and the same medals: Nothing has changed except the landscape of the playing field - the dynamics of color… “The real hero or patriot” - [‘native endurance’]… But then, there‘s that primitive echelon of hypocritical exuberance: “For it is our ‘WARRIOR’ whom shall prevail,” (Senator McCain, no doubt)… Elaborate hoax: Ruse…

Having spent 26 years as part of Washington’s problem, and to think that he can now, somehow inject himself into the public’s perception, and perceivably, a phenomenon [“born again maverick”] or the pallbearer of Capital Hill’s spiritual decadence, is more than suspect - simply put, staunchly ludicrous; and at 72 ... statistically, out of time. But, the Senator’s acknowledgement of the GOP’s transgressions against the people did breathe a limited breath of fresh air - even a minuscule of penitence, though, that too, were shadowed by the sudden urgency of his disseminated address (Convention ensemble), scripted and belated desire to assimilate “c-h-a-n-g-e,” vowing to expunge all that defiles the White House and to purge much of its Senate’s country clubs on Capital Hill… “To buy into this wholesale posturing, or rather [‘graveyard religion’] is futile: fighting wars and a POW’s rendition of the semantics; the GOP’s (unauthorized franchise), by any other name?”

The Republican Party’s quest in their protégé of “c-h-a-n-g-e,” is fanciful in rationale - nothing more than a camouflage that is all too often performed by a shape shifting, chameleonic mentality… Though the Senator’s exacting abilities in morphing remains to be seen: fact is - anything or anyone having an ability to register other than its self is given to illusion rather than logic. The proposition it self would far remove him from his element, fundamentally; having graduated at or near the bottom of his class; characteristically, John McCain is a day late and a dollar short. In perspective, he is more than likely to govern by emotional traits rather than those of the intellect… An emotional Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and our emotional (torture enhanced), Senator from [Hanoi], Arizona, is not a recipe for world peace: The clause in any resultant scenario is that [“YOU DON’T GET A DO OVER”], with “NUKES.”

With respect to hindsight, you wouldn’t need Sigmund Freud or a host of psychoanalysts to convince you that you wouldn’t in good judgment entrust the lives of sleeping families, especially our babies - to the emotional and psychological handicaps of a former, tortured war prisoner. However, impassioned… Given the assumption of truth: John McCain literally sat the war out; five and one half years - imprisoned as it were: in whatever historic or heroic capacity one may choose to belabel the narrative; suicide, notwithstanding … it doesn’t automatically confer upon his résumé a Doctorate - PhD, in the philosophy of war or for having any such treaties of personal illuminants that would commemoratively support his claim: As General Wesley Clark, so appropriately defined; given the exception of torture; to which accord our sitting President has asserted unequivocally that torture can never be a mandate of empowerment in the defense of a nation: “The oracle of sentiment, indeed.” Leadership must be fashioned of uncompromising integrity, and with serious vigilance in humility, by virtue of its rationale … the congruent and adhesive thread of humanity…

I’m not suggesting anything at all pathological of Senator McCain’s random symptoms, if you will; but an occasional, contrastive observation would of consequence - highlight exhibit [A]: a disorder in his personality, and an acute disorganization in real time in expressing [terms of hostility and contempt]; such as his referencing to his spouse in a sexually derogatory manner: Which is most certainly, non-characteristic of a prolific model of Presidential material in a civilize community: And to signal that tobacco laced with high octane (cancerous agents), or his infamous benediction of “bomb, bomb Iran, as acceptable means to kill off a race of people … innocent people; no doubt would be the rivalry of a Genghis Khan, but to suggest that such behavior is acceptable as somehow, society’s norm or the intellectual and thriving academia of America, is obscene.

Moreover, one of the greatest impediments that underscores normal behavior of military personnel or anyone held captive and subjected to a torture of debilitating dementia and punitive reprimands: harsh and injurious treatment which is subject to recurrence of emotional displays of mental entanglement; includes (flash-back), though not necessarily a major mental disorder, however, a moment of abject schizophrenia is close enough to consider its perils: [disorder of unknown cause, typically characterized by a separation between the thought process and the emotions, a distortion of reality accompanied by delusions and hallucinations.] … Given the afore mentioned time span of such atrocious and intensely concentrated mental abuse afflicted upon or injected into any human cerebrum or its cerebral capacity, is more than likely to leave some scaring and lasting damages; as likely as water not being wet … to believe otherwise; from a science perspective - it would be medical negligence.

Case in point: Because of the mental and physical reprimands that unfortunately resulted in (torture), imposed upon McCain, he can no longer raise his arms in normal ascent … can you not consider that the cerebral corridors of thought passage ways have not been altered, or compromised as well … the fact that it was the torture that compromised the healing of his broken arms; we know that the torture designate reaches the mind first as the body perceptively demonstrate its effectiveness; in Senator McCain‘s case; (suicidal and less heroic): [Compromise becomes constant] - torture made manifest… To contend that the designate by any degree, by-passes the mind in effect, and affects the body only would be the antics of sorcery: I’m grassroots - not the mentally challenged… In order for the mind to facilitate pain it has to absorb it, which, ultimately leaves the victims with a lifetime job of designate (torture), repression; [to force (ideas, impulses, etc. painful to the conscious mind), into the unconscious] - for as long as he/she is mentally and physically able to do so.

And to be symptomatic, [one] of the (McCains); John, has expressed some reluctance to talk about his traumatic experience as a prisoner of war … understandable; [a painful emotional experience, or shock, often producing a lasting psychic effect and sometimes, a neurosis.] But then, there’s the other [one], Senator John McCain - who just can’t seem to let it go… Senility, schizophrenia? Go figure.

To place either of these personalities at the helm of our nation is a likely surrender in committing to a medical hemorrhage in the people’s burden of proof, as to qualification, even in duplicity, if you will - to say the least. A prostrated and acquiescent government is never effective in the defense or leadership of its constituents: The current drama of the Republican’s theatrics or rather, playbook, juxtaposes the fall of Rome… Whether we’re looking at the White House or Caesar’s Palace, one thing is certain, and that is, life can and does repeat its self … life chooses the time and place, and “with” prejudice… It wouldn’t be a stretch at all for fate to connect the dots … the fact that the [Senate] was originally the supreme council of the ancient Roman state… Juxtaposing, the Senate’s “mavericks,” offering too little to late: “Cause and effect.” In layman’s terms - [‘expletive’… don’t just happen!]…

Hypothetically … the red phone does ring at around 3:00 a.m., and a ‘President’ McCain is [having a moment]: (hallucinating)… Would that ever translate into country first…?

Posted by: Dino4 | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

“Whether it’s from Russia or Sarah, with love … we must be clear on an antidote.”

Excerpt:

A CAMPAIGN OF BLOOD - IN A BAPTISM OF HYPOCRISY

If all the beloved and enduringly missed, heroic individuals [America’s children], deployed to the killing fields of North Vietnam to the streets of downtown Baghdad whom non-judiciary administrations did and are yet sacrificing; that have met and will meet with the unfortunate fate of having their names itched on walls of granite, (Tombstones), perpendicular to the Earth’s southern hemisphere, had been given the choice of a grave or to be delayed (POW), it would have been a no brainer… Their most resolute and solemn echo of valor, to date, is reflective, if not predicated in the wisdom of Barack Obama…

To lend an ear in allegiance to any persistence in the rattling of the saber and the blood, glistening thereupon - is to adopt one’s living and dependence upon it - thusly; by it, ye shall surely perish… By contrast, Obama has chosen to embrace a more eloquent [Christly], and profound (POW)… The (POWs), whom taught him from childhood that he, could not only trust them, but, that even at the eleventh hour they would be there to help him do that witch is righteous… Wherefore, Barack learned to depend and draw upon the humility and selflessness, enshrined in the heroes (POWs), of his own house (heart)… “Whereby, he has seen America as it should be: a new dawn of faith in a more righteous POW, the [POWER OF WOMEN], whom will put country first, in ushering forth a righteous referendum on America’s impending veracity; the John McCain(s), notwithstanding.”

McCain, of course, understands well, that much of his support is not as much about his candidacy as it is a slight on Obama’s ethnicity: undermined by America’s endemic tradition of hate and bigotry. These are the same people that denied John McCain the presidency on his first run, in 2000: So, why the sudden bosom camaraderie? He has the same experience and the same medals: Nothing has changed except the landscape of the playing field - the dynamics of color… “The real hero or patriot” - [‘native endurance’]… But then, there‘s that primitive echelon of hypocritical exuberance: “For it is our ‘WARRIOR’ whom shall prevail,” (Senator McCain, no doubt)… Elaborate hoax: Ruse…

Having spent 26 years as part of Washington’s problem, and to think that he can now, somehow inject himself into the public’s perception, and perceivably, a phenomenon [“born again maverick”] or the pallbearer of Capital Hill’s spiritual decadence, is more than suspect - simply put, staunchly ludicrous; and at 72 ... statistically, out of time. But, the Senator’s acknowledgement of the GOP’s transgressions against the people did breathe a limited breath of fresh air - even a minuscule of penitence, though, that too, were shadowed by the sudden urgency of his disseminated address (Convention ensemble), scripted and belated desire to assimilate “c-h-a-n-g-e,” vowing to expunge all that defiles the White House and to purge much of its Senate’s country clubs on Capital Hill… “To buy into this wholesale posturing, or rather [‘graveyard religion’] is futile: fighting wars and a POW’s rendition of the semantics; the GOP’s (unauthorized franchise), by any other name?”

The Republican Party’s quest in their protégé of “c-h-a-n-g-e,” is fanciful in rationale - nothing more than a camouflage that is all too often performed by a shape shifting, chameleonic mentality… Though the Senator’s exacting abilities in morphing remains to be seen: fact is - anything or anyone having an ability to register other than its self is given to illusion rather than logic. The proposition it self would far remove him from his element, fundamentally; having graduated at or near the bottom of his class; characteristically, John McCain is a day late and a dollar short. In perspective, he is more than likely to govern by emotional traits rather than those of the intellect… An emotional Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and our emotional (torture enhanced), Senator from [Hanoi], Arizona, is not a recipe for world peace: The clause in any resultant scenario is that [“YOU DON’T GET A DO OVER”], with “NUKES.”

With respect to hindsight, you wouldn’t need Sigmund Freud or a host of psychoanalysts to convince you that you wouldn’t in good judgment entrust the lives of sleeping families, especially our babies - to the emotional and psychological handicaps of a former, tortured war prisoner. However, impassioned… Given the assumption of truth: John McCain literally sat the war out; five and one half years - imprisoned as it were: in whatever historic or heroic capacity one may choose to belabel the narrative; suicide, notwithstanding … it doesn’t automatically confer upon his résumé a Doctorate - PhD, in the philosophy of war or for having any such treaties of personal illuminants that would commemoratively support his claim: As General Wesley Clark, so appropriately defined; given the exception of torture; to which accord our sitting President has asserted unequivocally that torture can never be a mandate of empowerment in the defense of a nation: “The oracle of sentiment, indeed.” Leadership must be fashioned of uncompromising integrity, and with serious vigilance in humility, by virtue of its rationale … the congruent and adhesive thread of humanity…

I’m not suggesting anything at all pathological of Senator McCain’s random symptoms, if you will; but an occasional, contrastive observation would of consequence - highlight exhibit [A]: a disorder in his personality, and an acute disorganization in real time in expressing [terms of hostility and contempt]; such as his referencing to his spouse in a sexually derogatory manner: Which is most certainly, non-characteristic of a prolific model of Presidential material in a civilize community: And to signal that tobacco laced with high octane (cancerous agents), or his infamous benediction of “bomb, bomb Iran, as acceptable means to kill off a race of people … innocent people; no doubt would be the rivalry of a Genghis Khan, but to suggest that such behavior is acceptable as somehow, society’s norm or the intellectual and thriving academia of America, is obscene.

Moreover, one of the greatest impediments that underscores normal behavior of military personnel or anyone held captive and subjected to a torture of debilitating dementia and punitive reprimands: harsh and injurious treatment which is subject to recurrence of emotional displays of mental entanglement; includes (flash-back), though not necessarily a major mental disorder, however, a moment of abject schizophrenia is close enough to consider its perils: [disorder of unknown cause, typically characterized by a separation between the thought process and the emotions, a distortion of reality accompanied by delusions and hallucinations.] … Given the afore mentioned time span of such atrocious and intensely concentrated mental abuse afflicted upon or injected into any human cerebrum or its cerebral capacity, is more than likely to leave some scaring and lasting damages; as likely as water not being wet … to believe otherwise; from a science perspective - it would be medical negligence.

Case in point: Because of the mental and physical reprimands that unfortunately resulted in (torture), imposed upon McCain, he can no longer raise his arms in normal ascent … can you not consider that the cerebral corridors of thought passage ways have not been altered, or compromised as well … the fact that it was the torture that compromised the healing of his broken arms; we know that the torture designate reaches the mind first as the body perceptively demonstrate its effectiveness; in Senator McCain‘s case; (suicidal and less heroic): [Compromise becomes constant] - torture made manifest… To contend that the designate by any degree, by-passes the mind in effect, and affects the body only would be the antics of sorcery: I’m grassroots - not the mentally challenged… In order for the mind to facilitate pain it has to absorb it, which, ultimately leaves the victims with a lifetime job of designate (torture), repression; [to force (ideas, impulses, etc. painful to the conscious mind), into the unconscious] - for as long as he/she is mentally and physically able to do so.

And to be symptomatic, [one] of the (McCains); John, has expressed some reluctance to talk about his traumatic experience as a prisoner of war … understandable; [a painful emotional experience, or shock, often producing a lasting psychic effect and sometimes, a neurosis.] But then, there’s the other [one], Senator John McCain - who just can’t seem to let it go… Senility, schizophrenia? Go figure.

To place either of these personalities at the helm of our nation is a likely surrender in committing to a medical hemorrhage in the people’s burden of proof, as to qualification, even in duplicity, if you will - to say the least. A prostrated and acquiescent government is never effective in the defense or leadership of its constituents: The current drama of the Republican’s theatrics or rather, playbook, juxtaposes the fall of Rome… Whether we’re looking at the White House or Caesar’s Palace, one thing is certain, and that is, life can and does repeat its self … life chooses the time and place, and “with” prejudice… It wouldn’t be a stretch at all for fate to connect the dots … the fact that the [Senate] was originally the supreme council of the ancient Roman state… Juxtaposing, the Senate’s “mavericks,” offering too little to late: “Cause and effect.” In layman’s terms - [‘expletive’… don’t just happen!]…

Hypothetically … the red phone does ring at around 3:00 a.m., and a ‘President’ McCain is [having a moment]: (hallucinating)… Would that ever translate into country first…?

Posted by: Dino4 | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

Obama's association with William Ayers is just unacceptable.
Ayers and Obama DID NOT just serve on a charitable board with each other. Ayers is documentated as a supporter and fund raiser for Obama in Illinois. Obama attended fund raisers at the home of the home-grown terrorist Bill Ayers.

Bill Ayers was a member of the Weathermen Underground who put men, women, and children at risk by blowing up federal buildings in the U.S. Today he is unrepentant and wishes he could have blown up some more buidlings in America.

How is he different from Bin Laden?!

WHY would a candidate for the presidency associate with such a man let alone attend fund raisers at this house?!

It's hard to believe that either Hillary Clinton or John McCain would have willingly associated themselves with a man seeks the destruction of his own country?!!!

What in the world does this say about Obama's Judgement?!

Posted by: BruceMcDougall | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

Obama's association with William Ayers is just unacceptable.
Ayers and Obama DID NOT just serve on a charitable board with each other. Ayers is documentated as a supporter and fund raiser for Obama in Illinois. Obama attended fund raisers at the home of the home-grown terrorist Bill Ayers.

Bill Ayers was a member of the Weathermen Underground who put men, women, and children at risk by blowing up federal buildings in the U.S. Today he is unrepentant and wishes he could have blown up some more buidlings in America.

How is he different from Bin Laden?!

WHY would a candidate for the presidency associate with such a man let alone attend fund raisers at this house?!

It's hard to believe that either Hillary Clinton or John McCain would have willingly associated themselves with a man seeks the destruction of his own country?!!!

What in the world does this say about Obama's Judgement?!

Posted by: BruceMcDougall | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

willandjansdad1 remembers: "I've seen photos of Bush holding hands with Prince Bandar who's wife SUPPORTED 2 of the 9/11 terrorists. The GOP has been in bed with the Saudis for years."

Yes, the Saudis royals are sponsors of the most radical of the Sunni Muslim sects, the Wahhabi, those builders of madrassas all over the middle east. Saudi sheiks regularly fly from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan with suitcases full of millions of dollars for new madrassas, and take back promising students for indoctrination into the Wahhabi version of Islam. So if you want to talk about "associates," both Bush I and II are family friends through their oil interests with unsavory promoters of radical Islam and terrorism--and this is not somebody who was a radical 40 years ago, but right now.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

willandjansdad1 remembers: "I've seen photos of Bush holding hands with Prince Bandar who's wife SUPPORTED 2 of the 9/11 terrorists. The GOP has been in bed with the Saudis for years."

Yes, the Saudis royals are sponsors of the most radical of the Muslim sects, the Wahhabi, those builders of madrassas all over the middle east. Saudi sheiks regularly fly from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan with suitcases full of millions of dollars for new madrassas, and take back promising students for indoctrination into the Wahhabi version of Islam. So if you want to talk about "associates," both Bush I and II are family friends with unsavory supporters of radical Islam and terrorism--not somebody who was a radical 40 years ago, but right now.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

willandjansdad1 remembers: "I've seen photos of Bush holding hands with Prince Bandar who's wife SUPPORTED 2 of the 9/11 terrorists. The GOP has been in bed with the Saudis for years."

Yes, the Saudis royals are sponsors of the most radical of the Sunni Muslim sects, the Wahhabi, those builders of madrassas all over the middle east. Saudi sheiks regularly fly from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan with suitcases full of millions of dollars for new madrassas, and take back promising students for indoctrination into the Wahhabi version of Islam. So if you want to talk about "associates," both Bush I and II are family friends through their oil interests with unsavory promoters of radical Islam and terrorism--and this is not somebody who was a radical 40 years ago, but right now.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

willandjansdad1 remembers: "I've seen photos of Bush holding hands with Prince Bandar who's wife SUPPORTED 2 of the 9/11 terrorists. The GOP has been in bed with the Saudis for years."

Yes, the Saudis royals are sponsors of the most radical of the Sunni Muslim sects, the Wahhabi, those builders of madrassas all over the middle east. Saudi sheiks regularly fly from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan with suitcases full of millions of dollars for new madrassas, and take back promising students for indoctrination into the Wahhabi version of Islam. So if you want to talk about "associates," both Bush I and II are family friends through their oil interests with unsavory promoters of radical Islam and terrorism--and this is not somebody who was a radical 40 years ago, but right now.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

willandjansdad1 remembers: "I've seen photos of Bush holding hands with Prince Bandar who's wife SUPPORTED 2 of the 9/11 terrorists. The GOP has been in bed with the Saudis for years."

Yes, the Saudis royals are sponsors of the most radical of the Sunni Muslim sects, the Wahhabi, those builders of madrassas all over the middle east. Saudi sheiks regularly fly from Saudi Arabia to Pakistan with suitcases full of millions of dollars for new madrassas, and take back promising students for indoctrination into the Wahhabi version of Islam. So if you want to talk about "associates," both Bush I and II are family friends through their oil interests with unsavory promoters of radical Islam and terrorism--and this is not somebody who was a radical 40 years ago, but right now.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

Listening to Sarah tell everyone about Obama's terrorist friends was hilarious. She's back to her 12 year old self and her audience is just as bad. She says, I was reading the New York Times, WOOoooooooo and it seems that Barack Obama, WOOooooooo is palling around with terrorists WOOooooooo! I can't wait until McCain makes a fool of himself next week. I think this is where they start to fix the election. Palins a superstar again because she studied and read a few lines. Then they'll say that McCain's new attacks are helping at the polls. Then comes Bush's cronies fixing the numbers to put McCain ahead. You watch what happens. I got the neo-con press pegged.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 6:48 AM

Obama's association with William Ayers is just unacceptable!
Ayers and Obama DID NOT just serve on a charitable board with each other.
Ayers is documentated as a supporter and fund raiser for Obama in Illinois. Obama attended fund raisers at the home of the home-grown terrorist Bill Ayers.

Bill Ayers was a member of the Weathermen Underground who put men, women, and children at risk by blowing up federal buildings in the U.S. Today he is unrepentant and wishes he could have blown up some more buidlings in America.
How is he different from Bin Laden?!

WHY would a candidate for the presidency associate with such a man let alone attend fund raisers at this house?!

How many of us believe that either Hillary Clinton or John McCain would have willingly associated themselves with a man seeks the destruction of his own country?!!!

What kind of judgement does this show?
Good grief, the man wants to be president!!!

Posted by: BruceMcDougall | October 5, 2008 6:28 AM

Listening to Sarah tell everyone about Obama's terrorist friends was hilarious. She's back to her 12 year old self and her audience is just as bad. She says, I was reading the New York Times, WOOoooooooo and it seems that Barack Obama, WOOooooooo is palling around with terrorists WOOooooooo! I can't wait until McCain makes a fool of himself next week. I think this is where they start to fix the election. Palins a superstar again because she studied and read a few lines. Then they'll say that McCain's new attacks are helping at the polls. Then comes Bush's cronies fixing the numbers to put McCain ahead. You watch what happens. I got the neo-con press pegged.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 6:28 AM

Jeff...aka "Sermon Boy"

Normally I just crack a wry grin when I read nonsense like yours about liberals hatin' Jesus but I am angry at your presumptious attitude. You equate any criticism of Sarah Palin with hatred of Jesus. Sarah doesn't deserve your reverence and I find your reasoning blasphemous.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 5, 2008 6:28 AM

Ask yourselves how "patriotic" it is of Sarah's husband to have been until only a few months ago, an active member of the "Independence for Alaska" political party, and of Sarah, already a Governor, to have attended and spoken officially at that party's annual meeting!

People, please see beyond cosmetics.

Posted by: ElMugroso | October 5, 2008 5:58 AM

"Well, I was reading my copy of today's New York Times...."

This is a blatant lie...Sarah doesn't read. She said as much in one of her "interviews". She was fed this little morsel by one of the campaign's Rove-trained attack dogs.

"Hey folks...don't look at the sad old man in the geek pit biting the head off a chicken. Look at the pretty girl telling jokes."
The Campaign Carnival of the Absurd

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 5, 2008 5:58 AM

Jeff said...
"Jesus told us in the Bible that you would hate us because you hate Him."

Jeff...You are one self-righteous man. I promise you, I don't hate Jesus. I pity Jesus because people like you and Ms. Palin have hijacked him for unholy purposes. Better get your asbestos underwear ready...Your riding a hellbound train.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 5, 2008 5:50 AM

I've seen photos of Bush holding hands with Prince Bandar who's wife SUPPORTED 2 of the 9/11 terrorists. The GOP has been in bed with the Saudis for years. When Americans couldn't fly after 9/11, Saudis were spirited out of the country.

Obama was on a charity board with a man that was a radical when Obama was 8 years old. So what!

The McCain campaign is obviously desparate. Obama is talking about health care and McCain is talking about Bill Ayers.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 5, 2008 5:45 AM

Jeff - G.W. Bush thinks he is on God's mission in Iraq. Thousands of civilian Iraqis have died because of it, and though the Al Quaida were not there when this war started, they sure are now. So when was the last time Christians killed innocent people? Just look in the papers.

(He didn't go for Usama Bin Laden, because he is chummy with Bin Laden's Saudi family. And while Obama is not a pal of Ayers, Bush is certainly a pal of Saudi Arabia.)

Posted by: asoders22 | October 5, 2008 5:37 AM

Sarah Palin is showing out the fake under the cosmetics.
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Her distorted understanding of what she "read" in the New York Times essentially says that our democracy is OK and our nation is a country of freedom as long as everybody agrees with whatever suits her ambitions and her new cronies.
- her interpretation of what she has read in the Bible has intoxicated her. Even reading a cooking recipe is likely to give her indigestion. She is now playing the vicious "terror" card of Bushism after having shown in public that she's got an incoherent mind. -

-A fact is that her husband was until recently an active member of the "Independence for Alaska" political party, and Sarah, already a Governor, spoke at that party's annual meeting.

Posted by: ElMugroso | October 5, 2008 5:37 AM

I love Palin, she is so beautiful

Posted by: Jake_D | October 5, 2008 5:36 AM

Jesus told us in the Bible that you would hate us because you hate Him.

The hatred for Sarah that is running rampant because she expressed the truth about the most dangerous radical to ever run for POTUS.

In case you've been in a coma for 7 years you should know that defending our nation from radical Muslim terrorists is the most important issue.

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 5:01 AM | Report abuse

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In case you been in a coma for the last seven years the Terrorists are right in the White House. I suggest you do a little research instead of listening to the propaganda from FIX news. Go to You Tube and listen to some of the lectures that are being held right here in our schools by some of the smartest people in the country. You can start by reading some of this. http://news.google.com/news?tab=wn&ned=us&hl=en&ned=us&q=bush+family+war+profiteers&btnG=Search+News

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 5, 2008 5:25 AM

The dangerous radicals of today are the extreme right wing Christians, as well as the extreme right wing Islamists.


I can't remember...

when was the last time a Christian flew a plane into a building in the name of Jesus?

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 5:21 AM

Quote: "

Jesus told us in the Bible that you would hate us because you hate Him.

The hatred for Sarah that is running rampant because she expressed the truth about the most dangerous radical to ever run for POTUS.

In case you've been in a coma for 7 years you should know that defending our nation from radical Muslim terrorists is the most important issue.

Posted by: jeff32 "

Jeff - first of all, you are wrong. You don't have to hate Jesus - or you - or even Sarah Palin, to see that she is just wrong.

Second, Sarah Palin is not Jesus, neither are you.

Third, you got the whole thing backwards. The dangerous radicals of today are the extreme right wing Christians, as well as the extreme right wing Islamists. Both believe they are on a mission from God, both refer to a book (Bible, Quran), and both refuse to think, find out facts, reason with themselves - and listen.

If you read the article in NYT, you will see for yourself that either Sarah Palin never finished it, or she is outright lying. Please read it and find out. Stop just believing, find out about things. I am sure Jesus would like you to use your brain as well as your heart.

Posted by: asoders22 | October 5, 2008 5:16 AM

jeff32, you are no more Christian than Saddam Hussein. It is obvious to any one who has actually read Jesus's teachings that you never have. Jesus's teachings were much like Buddhas. Peace, love ,forgiveness, nonjudgmental, acceptance. You don't sound like any of those things. Like so many of your ignorant brethren you insult Jesus by calling yourself Christian.

I'll make sure I include your comment in my next sermon. God Bless you.

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 5:11 AM

jeff32, you are no more Christian than Saddam Hussein. It is obvious to any one who has actually read Jesus's teachings that you never have. Jesus's teachings were much like Buddhas. Peace, love ,forgiveness, nonjudgmental, acceptance. You don't sound like any of those things. Like so many of your ignorant brethren you insult Jesus by calling yourself Christian.

Posted by: jwald1 | October 5, 2008 5:05 AM

Jesus told us in the Bible that you would hate us because you hate Him.

The hatred for Sarah that is running rampant because she expressed the truth about the most dangerous radical to ever run for POTUS.

In case you've been in a coma for 7 years you should know that defending our nation from radical Muslim terrorists is the most important issue.

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 5:01 AM

Everyone knows this is a Red Herring. Palin can wrap this old fish in a piece of the New York Times, but it's still just stinky Republican Swiftboating as usual. Their real aim, of course, is to momentarily distract attention away from issues that really matter.

Posted by: FellowTraveler | October 5, 2008 4:51 AM

This woman, blinded by her own airhead political ambition is stopping at nothing. She will sacrifice her teenage daughter as well as that poor chap 'Levi' by forcing these hapless two teenagers to rush into the most important decision in their life, so she could look good at their expense. She will slander anyone on anything as long as it is politically oportune, she will cook up stories that are an inch away from being lies technically as long as it benefits her rating.

She is not a pig with lipstick on. I think pigs have more honour than her. She is way below pigs.

Posted by: thisworld | October 5, 2008 4:50 AM

Hey, she read a newspaper for the very first time in her life that she had to boast about it at her rally. It sounded that even her supporters were not impressed with that frank acknowledgement that she read The New York Time (obviously for the first time). Wow, Sarah. You are truly pathetic. You are a dangerous combination of ignorance and arrogance.

Posted by: thisworld | October 5, 2008 4:45 AM

Obama was eight years old during Ayers radical days. The Bill Ayers of his youth is not the man Obama met. Bill Ayers did his time. Aren't we supposed to forgive, isn't that a "Christen"value? Bill Ayers has gone on to be a productive member of society. And well respected in many circles. Ayers worked with Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley in shaping the city's school reform program, and was one of three co-authors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge grant proposal that in 1995 won $49.2 million over five years for public school reform. Since 1999 he has served on the nine-member board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an anti-poverty, philanthropic foundation established in 1941. Anti poverty, my god he is a radical!
Besides the fact there is NO proof that Obama has a personal relationship with Mr. Ayers. It reminds me a little of the ken starr days, the republicans were rabid and were positive they were going to nail Clinton, until Larry Flynt offered that reward... so many skeletons in so many closets.

Posted by: jwald1 | October 5, 2008 4:45 AM

jeff32,

How so? Because they don't fit your narrow minded view of the world? Jesus spoke to people like you and others who practice hate theology. People who practice it are not Christians in any sense of its meaning except in their own twisted minds. You probably think Jesus was a secular humanist too by your definition.

It's amazing how non-Christians try to tell Christians what a Christian is supposed to think or do.

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 4:43 AM

In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride and arrogance

And I thought the "H" was for Hussein?

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 4:39 AM

jeff32,

How so? Because they don't fit your narrow minded view of the world? Jesus spoke to people like you and others who practice hate theology. People who practice it are not Christians in any sense of its meaning except in their own twisted minds. You probably think Jesus was a secular humanist too by your definition.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 4:30 AM

grummantbf,

keep hacking wes

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 4:24 AM

PALIN: MS HUBRIS, USA
In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride and arrogance; it is often associated with a lack of knowledge combined with a lack of humility. An accusation of hubris often implies that suffering or punishment will follow, similar to the occasional pairing of hubris and nemesis in the Greek world. The proverb "pride goes before a fall" is thought to sum up the modern definition of hubris. In reference to someone being in hubrity: hubrity is a fulfillment of being hubristic or a continual behavior of being prideful. Victor in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein exudes hubris in order to become a great scientist, but is eventually regretting this previous desire. Faustus in Christopher Marlowe's play Dr. Faustus exudes hubris, all the way until his final minutes of life.

Posted by: nacnudbob | October 5, 2008 4:21 AM

Did she read the Times or did the parrot get coaching? Palin is not informed, she can parrot words and read a teleprompter. We owe much to the journalists and especially Katie Couric who didn't tell us who Palin is, but let us see it. Palin continues to show who she is. She is dragging as many as she can onto the fear express. We stand at a cross roads. We can chose more of the same or get off the derailed and twisted train and fly with hope of the future and a chance to turn our country to more honorable practices at every level. We can take the High Road with Obama.

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Posted by: konakact61 | October 5, 2008 4:18 AM

grummantbf,

There is only one problem with your post, you offer no facts. You are entitled to believe what you want, but don't expect reasonable people to ascribe to it.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 4:17 AM

If they represent Christianity then I'm going to convert to Judaism or Islam.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 4:12 AM |

I've read your posts. There is absolutely nothing "Christian" about them. Although they do smell of the genre of Secular Humanism.

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 4:17 AM

APalinFan,

Rather than read a blog post on the National Review, why don't you just read the Times article yourself? It's in the on line edition.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 4:13 AM

jeff32,

Keep dreaming, dreams are good. Oh I am sure they will vote for Palin-McCain in droves. NOT.

The only thing "Christian" about McCain and Palin is the moniker they hang upon themselves. If they represent Christianity then I'm going to convert to Judaism or Islam.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 4:12 AM

To what extent Obama and Ayers were personal friends is really beside the point. Obama's association with Ayers's education projects was more than casual. As a National Review blog post on the Times story notes: 'There is nothing "sporadic" about Barack Obama delivering hundreds of thousands of dollars over a period of many years to fund Bill Ayers’ radical education projects, not to mention many millions more to benefit Ayers’ radical education allies. We are talking about a substantial and lengthy working relationship here, one that does not depend on the quality of personal friendship or number of hours spent in the same room together (although the article greatly underestimates that as well).' See http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWI0MjY3NzMyODgxZGM2ZjUwNTE1MmEzOGRiZmFkNWE=

Posted by: APalinFan | October 5, 2008 4:11 AM

The Obamatards are all upset over what Palin said. Notice they can't refute it, because it's true. All they can do is try to change the subject. "Oh she's a radical Christian, blah, blah, blah, sniffle, sniffle, whine." Stay on the subject at hand. Obama DOES hang out with Ayers. That's the "Inconvenient Truth."

Posted by: grummantbf | October 5, 2008 4:10 AM

I so hate reprehensible republicans.

Posted by: codysea

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I don't hate republicans, at least not the fast fading moderate republicans. Heck moderate democrats are becoming rare these days too. I'm an independent myself.

One of the absolute best (in my opinions) congressman who has served in my personal memory is a republican and I have had the privilege of voting for him several times. I only wish he were still in congress today and not the tool who replaced him.

Of whom do I speak? Amo Houghton. We could use about 450 more members of congress like Amo. His honesty and integrity were beyond reproach.

The joke we always made about Amo was no one could buy him because he was already filthy rich (former CEO of Corning Glass). I miss his sensibilities in congress.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 4:05 AM

The hypocrite pentecostal evangelical would raise more money for the GOP and McCain if she put on that starts and stripes bikini, brandished that scope mounted rifle for the NRA, and did some lap dances after church for the high and mighty conservative republicans control freaks with less then THREE INCH average Pen** Size. The perverts would line up with their tongues hanging out.

Posted by: winemaster2 | October 5, 2008 4:03 AM

SARAH PALIN IS A MEMBER OF THE TALIBAN! HERE IS PROOF!
HER HUSBAND HATES AMERICA!SHE BELIEVES HER RELIGION IS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION! BELIEVES JEWS SHOULD ABANDEN THEIR RELIGION!BELIEVES GOD WANTS US AT WAR! BELIEVES GOD WILL WIN WAR FOR HER SIDE!WANTS TO BAN BOOKS SHE DEEMS INAPROPREATE!
DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE TO BE IN CONTROL OF THEIR OWN BODIES!

Not any more ridiculous than some of the posts I have seen.

Posted by: jwald1 | October 5, 2008 3:55 AM

Don't be surprised when the African-American Christians vote McCain/Palin into office on Nov.4th.

The Obamanation's arrogance has caused him to over-look the fact that true Christians are not racially motivated.

The Obamanation is not spending enough money in the South to maintain the support that he had in the primaries. The Church is campaining heavily against him, legally, despite the boundries that are unconstitutionally imposed on them due to tax free status.

Unlike the liberal sect, Christians are actually organized and can agree on political views.

Oh yeah, and polls show that 60% of all Americans claim to be Christians.

Your Muslim Messiah better spend his money in the South or he will be sorely upset in states that he thinks are "in the bag".

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 3:53 AM

APalinFan,

There you go again! Did you read the book yourself? Come on, you expect people to accept what the National Review says any more than you would want people to accept what the Times says?

If the Times is a liberal mouthpiece then the National Review is certainly its Neo-Conservative compliment.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 3:52 AM

wes1155
SCORE!
er,except er, argument? Doesn't that sound, um, "elitist"?

I so hate reprehensible republicans.]

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 3:49 AM

With friends like Sarah Palin poor old John does not need enemies. Every time she opens her mouth and sprouts the garbage she does; this time questioning Obama's patriotism; and by association every one of us who believes he is the better presidential candidate,the more she allienates us independent voters.

She needs to 'grow up' and understand that just like every other country, the US is capable of doing wrong; indeed we know the US has made mistakes, many of them, in the past. To think otherwise is to be as blind as the millions of honest, hard working and christian Germans who honestly believed the Nazi Government could do no wrong.
Go away Sarah, the politics of fear have no place in the new USA.

Posted by: Charles15 | October 5, 2008 3:48 AM

You have to wonder about folks who worry so much about who someone knew 40 yrs ago. You all act like you don't know someone who's a looney tune. Hell, some of you still are looney and some of you still want to blow up the government yourself. Is it really important that Obama knew someone 40 yrs ago or said something or did something stupid? Or McCain sat down with someone who was a radical? You all act like you never said or did things in your past that were stupid. McCain cheated on his wife 40 yrs ago, or McCain was part of the Keating 5 or his wife stole drugs from a charity. So what. Is that going to change your vote? Could it be that a black person is more dangerous when it comes to blowing up the country than those white nitwits hiding in Idaho, Texas, AZ or anywhere else they hide? You all sound like a bunch of dimwits with ADD who can't seem to focus on the issues of today. "Obama is a pal of this person, McCain is a pal of that person" --- so what. Are you what your friends are? Do you believe everything your friends believe or do everything your friends do? Stop with the childish fingerpointing.

Republicans, Democrats all lie, cheat, steal --- so get over it. The GOP lie cheat and steal from the middle class to give to the rich, the Democrats lie cheat and steal from the rich to divvy it up for the middle class and poor, and the independents don't get elected so they don't have anyone to steal from anyway.

As voting adults you're too old to be playing the game of "guilt by association." Get in gear folks. The real world doesn't give a hoot about who McCain or Obama talked to or knew, or liked 40 years ago. What matters is NOW.

The issues of the campaign and the future of this country are at stake. For once think about yourself. Are your finance intact? Do you have a job? Are you covered by health insurance or can you afford insurance on your own? Could you survive a major illness without going into bankruptcy? Will you have money to send your kids to college? Can you retire and live above poverty? Can you afford to buy a house, or keep the house you have? Focus on today! It's no wonder the world thinks Americans are so stupid --we act like people with ADD. Any trivial comment or issue seems to distract us from the major things we need to be discussing. What is McCain's or Obama's plan for health care, education, jobs, and even the military other than shipping more people off to war?

Get with it folks and stop wasting time.
Win on the issues not the junk that's coming up now. Smoke and mirrors lead the nation away from the issues 4 years ago and look at the mess we're in today.

Personally, I get very suspicious when a candidate starts talking nonsense to move away from the main issues. I don't care who Obama or McCain knew years ago but I do care about the fricking $700 billion welfare to Wall St. I do care about keeping my health insurance affordable. I do care about the war and kids getting killed. You're an adult with the right to vote so act like it and don't be so foolish wasting time arguing about nonsense.

Are we going to show the world that America is "stuck on stupid" on Nov. 4th and keep doing the same things we've always done expecting a different outcome? If we do,
then we're stuck on stupid and if we don't survive we won't have anyone to blame but ourselves.

Posted by: debv1 | October 5, 2008 3:47 AM

As the Times story notes, as a state senator, Obama offered this praise for Ayers book on education: 'In 1997, after Mr. Obama took office, the new state senator was asked what he was reading by The Chicago Tribune. He praised a book by Mr. Ayers, “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court,” which Mr. Obama called “a searing and timely account of the juvenile court system.”'

A National Review blog post comments on the Ayers book and its mention in the Times article: 'Obama was perfectly aware of Ayers’ radical views, since he read and publically endorsed, without qualification, Ayers’ book on juvenile crime. That book is quite radical, expressing doubts about whether we ought to have a prison system at all, comparing America to South Africa’s apartheid system, and contemptuously dismissing the idea of the United States as a kind or just country.' See http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWI0MjY3NzMyODgxZGM2ZjUwNTE1MmEzOGRiZmFkNWE=

Posted by: APalinFan | October 5, 2008 3:45 AM

By the way, Black Liberation Theology that Obama was taught at Trinity Church of Christ, isn't Christian and he did not raise his children in a Christian church.

Posted by: starbaby1

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How do you know? Because some talking head said so? Why don't you actually listen to some of Rev. Wright's sermons rather than being feed your opinions.

I fully admit it is just my opinion, but I believe Liberation Theology is way more Christian than most Evangelical Christian dogma. One of the central themes of Liberation Theology is redemption for the oppressed AND the oppressor. One without the other doesn't get you there.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 3:45 AM

JakeD,

Your argument falls apart because at best, Palin's script writer is making a subjective opinion about Obama and Ayers being "pals". If you put it to the reasonable person test, I don't believe based on the known facts, one could successfully describe them as "pals".

On the other hand, Palin is a "pal" of Todd's.

As for Rev. Wright JOKING about being Vice President', the point is he was joking. Todd Palin has access AND influence should, G-d forbid, Palin and McCain are elected.

Last but not least, let's review the definition of "pal". According to Webster it is defined as "close friend". So either Palin (or the script writer) was purposefully being misleading or doing so inadvertently.

Either way, based on the facts as we know them, Obama does not "pal" with terrorists, plural or singular, but Sarah Palin is indeed a "pal" of a person who was a member of a secessionist political party.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 3:38 AM

Oh My Idol JakeD

No, really? Tell me you aren't like all the other idiots here.

NO! Oh. I guess you are.

Terrorist.

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 3:31 AM

Obama's staff sent 24 people to Palin's home town to look for dirt on her. When Sarah was asked about this she said, "Good, I hope they spend alot of money. It will be good for our local business."
I live near Chicago and Obama has deep connections in a dirty political system that has been going on longer than I've been alive and I'm older than Barak.
Rezko, who is now convicted and pending
sentancing, helped Obama buy his home.
This is a long dirty story and if the media had done it's job, this Chicago truck driver wouldn't have to be the one to tell America. Washington Post, do your job. The Chicago Tribune ran the trial in the paper. It doesn't take much research.
Paul David Christian truck driver
By the way, Black Liberation Theology that Obama was taught at Trinity Church of Christ, isn't Christian and he did not raise his children in a Christian church.

Posted by: starbaby1 | October 5, 2008 3:16 AM |


I think what you are missing is no one cares about that. What they care about is that the republicans have made the country bankrupt and Bush the third will only make it worse.

Posted by: chiefwigams | October 5, 2008 3:30 AM

JRM and wes1155:

You can argue whatever "guilt by association" you want. I never said either was wrong up until now. What I have been saying is that you just can't lie. Gov. Palin's remarks about Ayers and Obama are true, whether he was convicted or not. The American people will be the final judge.

To answer your question, however, guilt by association is a logical fallacy. Much better to argue that such people Obama pals around with will gain high-level access and influence, maybe even Cabinet appointments. I believe that Rev. Wright once (joked?) about being Vice President.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 3:28 AM

HopeandPeace1

Gee, and how racist are you?

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 3:24 AM

Obama's problem is that he has so MANY unsavory characters among his inner circle. Though he has for the last year tried to downplay his involvement with Ayers, there's much documentable evidence of their long-standing relationship, including their mutual involvement in the CAC that functioned for what appears to have been the sole purpose of diverting millions of dollars out of the public coffers and education system into the voting fraud group, ACORN. So even if Ayers had already bombed the pentagon by the time Obama hooked up with him, there's still much foul play that came from their long relationship. Add to this Obama's other friends - his racist, Anti-American minister of 20 years and the terrorist supporter Rashid Khalidi, et al - and the Democrats have quite a dilemma! Unfortunately, by the time they realized it, Hillary had already lost the primary and Obama was creeping across the finish line.

Posted by: HopeandPeace1 | October 5, 2008 3:22 AM

starbaby1 is a terrorist.

prove you aren't.

that's the motivation behind your post.

prove you aren't.

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 3:20 AM

I think the old hippy is using Kool-Aid in the bong and there are way too many communists supporting the Obamanation.

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 3:19 AM

Obama's staff sent 24 people to Palin's home town to look for dirt on her. When Sarah was asked about this she said, "Good, I hope they spend alot of money. It will be good for our local business."
I live near Chicago and Obama has deep connections in a dirty political system that has been going on longer than I've been alive and I'm older than Barak.
Rezko, who is now convicted and pending
sentancing, helped Obama buy his home.
This is a long dirty story and if the media had done it's job, this Chicago truck driver wouldn't have to be the one to tell America. Washington Post, do your job. The Chicago Tribune ran the trial in the paper. It doesn't take much research.
Paul David Christian truck driver
By the way, Black Liberation Theology that Obama was taught at Trinity Church of Christ, isn't Christian and he did not raise his children in a Christian church.

Posted by: starbaby1 | October 5, 2008 3:16 AM

As Mark Twain said:

"The most outrageous lies that can be invented will find believers if a man(or woman) only tells them with all his might."

Keep vigilant, seek the truth and reject lies no matter from which direction they come.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 3:10 AM

prhornbea is a terrorist.

Live with it dude.

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 3:07 AM

Gee, I wonder which will stick. Spurious connection to a former radical that operated when Obama was Eight-years-old? Or, Or, Marrying an avowed secessionist in adulthood. Not only was Todd a member but his wife cheeled their efforts as Mayor. Hmmmph, I wonder which will stick.

Posted by: Penseur | October 5, 2008 3:03 AM

Doggone it, Sarah, there you go again, looking backward again. And darn it, the article simply doesn't support what you said.
This isn't change we main streeters need -- it's old fashioned Republican attack dog politics.

Posted by: mnjam | October 5, 2008 2:58 AM

John McCain has his own terrorist problem: and just remember, this terrorist held a fundraiser for McCain, has contributed $5,000 to McCain including $1,000 this year. Check it out ... and remember, this is the guy who urged the Branch Davidians to aim above Federal ATF Agent's flak jackets and go for their heads. I repeat .. he advocated shooting Federal law enforcement officers in the head. And this is a guy John McCain says is a hero.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGRvo6LWuaY

Posted by: Omyobama | October 5, 2008 2:57 AM

Gotta hit the hay. Night all! It's been a blast.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 2:56 AM

Ayers is a Patriot when compared to Sarah Palin.

Posted by: chiefwigams | October 5, 2008 2:54 AM

OBAMA IS A CROOK. PERIOD.

His connection to Acorn and the real estate mortgage blowup has been confirmed. The Barney Frank, Obama crowd Fannie & Freddie for gains to their crooked friends. The whole thing started with Carter and grew into the sub-prime disaster that had nothing to do with de-regulation. Clinton expanded the mandate and the crooks used Acorn to push small banks into making bad loans in the name of progress. Obama used his connection to Ayers and the Annenberg money to further the aims of Acorn. So he has a crooked connection to Ayers who is not just a crook but a terrorist as well. Nice.

Anyone who excuses Obama out of pure hatred of Bush and overlooks his crooked connection to Acorn, Frank et.al, and the terrorist Ayers is delusional.

We can not hand over this country to socialists like Obama, Soros, Gore, Ayers, Barney Frank and the rest of the scum on the left. All of these facts will be well known before election day. Obama and co want to nationalize our health ins, our banking, our schools and our thought. They want the government to reward laziness of those who do not choose to work, by taking money from those who do work.

Most of the Obama kool aid drinkers posting on the web don't have a clue about the real reason they are so angry. It is pretty simple, they know deep down inside they stand to lose again. They think we do something magical to always expose them and the tired old socialism they have dusted off every 4 years.

Sorry guys...but this empty suit you picked is more of the same. He should get training so he could operate an elevator in Chicago for his next career. He damn sure is not qualified to follow the likes of Lincoln, Eisenhower or Reagan. in fact, he can't even follow Bush.

Posted by: prhornbeak | October 5, 2008 2:54 AM

1991:

John Mccain found himself on television trying to explain himself as one of the "Keating 5," five U.S. Senators who became enmeshed in the scandal involving the collapsed Lincoln Savings and Loan and the financial machinations of now convicted cheat Charles Keating. The U.S. taxpayers will feel for years the aftershocks of what has become known as the "S & L scandal" and will be paying off the billions that S & L clients found themselves swindled out of by Keating and others involved in the massive fraud.

Reports from a variety of U.S. publications tell of the involvement of McCain in the ever-widening scandal.

ECONOMIST, Mar. 9, 1991--"Mr. McCain, despite his claims of innocence, was the only one of the five who benefited personally--family holidays in the Bahamas on Mr. Keating's tab."

NEW REPUBLIC, Dec. 31, 1990--"The only Republican of the bunch [the five Senators], John McCain of Arizona wins credit for finally drawing the line. After the second of the two April meetings [with Federal regulators] he told Mr. [Sen. Dennis] DeConcini [D-Ariz.] and Mr. Keating that he wouldn't lean on the regulators any more. Mr. Keating called him a wimp. But before the rupture, Mr. McCain and his family were regular guests of Mr. Keating's on trips to the Bahamas. Mr. McCain reimbursed the owner of Lincoln Savings and Loan for only a small fraction of the cost of these holidays. Yet, he never reported the vacations on Senate disclosure forms, or his income taxes. He said he thought his wife had paid Mr. Keating back. This is hard to believe."

NEW REPUBLIC, Sept. 9, 1991--Calling McCain part of the "Senatorial Lincoln Brigade," the NEW REPUBLIC reported that Keating, while bankrupting his Savings and Loan, had channeled $1.4 million to the campaigns or causes of the five Senators, who in turn pressured the Savings and Loan regulators to "back off our friend."Ultimately, the fall of Lincoln Savings and Loan will cost the U.S. taxpayers $2 billion. It lost $1 million dollars a day from the time Keating bought it in 1984 until its collapse in 1989, and yet he continued to pay off McCain as "one of his assets," REGARDIE'S magazine reported in its April-May 1992 issue.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 2:53 AM

Interesting angle, wes1155. Ty for posting.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 2:53 AM

Let's talk about McCain's pal Keating. How much did that guy cost US taxpayers and how much damage did he do to our financial system? Most estimates are about 160M of taxpayer money lost and then there were the losses of the individual investors who got burned. So if Palin wants to talk about candidate's real pals, Keating should be topic one.

Posted by: kranman | October 5, 2008 2:47 AM

Seriously, people are more savvy than ever about campaign hijinx, and when you have a relatively clean campaign vs. what seems to be becoming a rather dirty one, it's embarrassingly obvious what's going on.

Posted by: old_hippie

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I wish I could agree with you on this, but there are a lot of people out there who are influenced by this just because of Obama's skin color. People who won't come out and say it directly, so are looking for a manufactured issue to use in place of race. In fact, one of the op-ed pieces in the NYT today has something on this very subject. Maybe Palin will read it too. HAH!

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 2:43 AM

Palin opens her mouth and it drives me nuts. Good that people are not falling for her BS.

Posted by: nri1998 | October 5, 2008 2:40 AM

Swiftboating didn't work against Obama during the primaries, and it surely won't hurt him now. Swiftboating is so...passe.

Seriously, people are more savvy than ever about campaign hijinx, and when you have a relatively clean campaign vs. what seems to be becoming a rather dirty one, it's embarrassingly obvious what's going on.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 2:36 AM

Hannityites are going crazy. Don't get mad with sarah palin she followed all of his instructions. Hannityites think sean is worth millions, you have nothing in common with him. He and limbaugh got a strong pimp game tricking you fools to hit the streets.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 2:34 AM

Hey john5750

What local branch of the KKK do you belong to? The only gorilla in the room is you. And you're an endangered species.

The FBI is watching.

Posted by: codysea

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Obviously, the RNC/Palin-McCain Chapter.

My, the trolls have come out heavy tonight. The off shore paid trolls are now on the job.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 2:32 AM

McCain and Palin are laughable. Even their own party leaders can't stand them. McCain has lost what little dignity he had left and Palin had none to begin with. They look like a couple of poor hobo's that can't smell their own stink but it's overpowering everyone else.

Posted by: blarsen1 | October 5, 2008 2:29 AM

As John McCain watches his last chance to be president slipping through his fingers, he's decided that it's time to go South Carolina 2000 on Barack Obama:

Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said.
John McCain is afraid to run on the war, he's afraid to run on health care, and he's terrified to run on the economy, so he's going to go for fear and smear. It's all John McCain has left. And as McCain campaign manager Rick Davis once said:
The premise of any smear campaign rests on a central truth of politics: Most of us will vote for a candidate we like and respect, even if we don't agree with him on every issue. But if you can cripple a voter's basic trust in a candidate, you can probably turn his vote. The idea is to find some piece of personal information that is tawdry enough to raise doubts, repelling a candidate's natural supporters.  [...]

It's not necessary, however, for a smear to be true to be effective. The most effective smears are based on a kernel of truth and applied in a way that exploits a candidate's political weakness.

Davis wrote that in 2000, decrying George Bush's smear campaign against John McCain during the South Carolina primary, saying that:

Rebutting tawdry attacks focuses public attention on them, and prevents the campaign from talking issues. And of course today, the last thing John McCain wants to do is to talk about the issues.

via dailykos

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 2:25 AM

On top of all this we have Gen. Patreaus saying no victory in Iraq, Brig Carleton-Smith saying no victory in Afghanistan and Sarah Palin saying vote for me and John, darn it, and we'll win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. See, she's an expert.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 2:24 AM

Bad news for john 5750

Bigots are endorsing Obama. They love their children and understand that the GOP has destroyed their way of life.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 2:24 AM

John McCain- The Manchurian Candidate.

U.S. Veteran Dispatch

December 1992 Issue


Those following the proceedings during the past year of the Senate Select Committee on POW and MIA Affairs have been mystified by the rabid actions of the one man on the committee who should be grateful that for the nearly three decades there have been activists in America who have refused to let die the issue of the fate of Americans lost and missing in Southeast Asia from the Vietnam War.

I am speaking of course of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). None of the Senators on the Select Committee have been as vicious in their attacks on POW/MIA family members and activists than the man behind the mask of war hero, former POW, and patriotic United States Senator . . .

Not even Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who went into his job as chairman of the Select Committee with a predisposition that no one was left alive in Southeast Asia, that it was therefore "time to put the war behind us" and normalize relations with Hanoi, has shown such a bias against those who have fought and kept alive the POW/MIA cause.

Not even Sen. Kerry, with his own record as an anti-war protester during the early 1970s after serving in Vietnam--has turned a totally deaf ear to the numerous individuals and groups who are, correctly or not, convinced that Americans were and are alive in captivity in Southeast Asia.

What, therefore, motivates a John McCain to attack as a pit bull everyone and anyone who has the opinion that men are still alive in the very same captivity that he himself once experienced? Mr. McCain disguises his attacks on the POW/MIA by claiming he is on the committee to ask "the tough questions" to grill and berate in order to get to the truth. What motivates the man, who at the same time has shown a sensitive, almost patronizing approach to U.S. government officials who have lied to the committee? . . .

Borrowing from the title of a popular movie of some years ago, many activists who have felt the fangs of this pit bull call him the "Manchurian Candidate." Is that a fair accusation to level at Senator McCain, the war hero and the former POW?

In the movie, "The Manchurian Candidate," actor Lawrence Harvey portrayed the character of a former POW and war hero of the Korean War, whose brainwashing by his communist captors resulted in his enemies being able to manipulate his actions. To trigger him to do their bidding all they had to do was have him play solitaire with the Queen of Diamonds being the trigger that made him theirs, body and soul.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 2:24 AM

It is obvious to me that all John McCain wants to do is start another war, so that he can 'win" the one that he felt was lost in Viet-Nam.

He is no better than a modern day deranged Don Quixote. We need to wake up and realize this before it is too late.

Watch his anger and impatience as he shuts down the Senate investigation in 1991 into the missing POW's and MIA's in Laos. He has not changed. He is ruthless in his disrespect and obvious hate for the poor lady trying to get information about her missing husband.

McCain is beneath contempt.

Takes place in the first video on the website with much background to follow. The site is maintained by Viet-Nam veterans who feel that John McCain is attempting to cover up his past as the "songbird" who gave classified information to Russian interogators working in Hanoi for the Vietnamese.

View the information at:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6065

This man was dangerous then, and even more dangerous now.

Viet-Nam Veteran
Khe Sanh 1968

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 2:19 AM

john5750, dude . . .

. . . you're seriously ill. and a racist. unfortunately John McCain's medical plan won't help pay for your psychiatric bills.

Dude, you're lost. And such original ideas! Not.

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 2:18 AM

She's the dumbest celebrity in Washington.
But her star is fading.
Everyone is laughing at her.
So she lashes out.
Calls her political opponents pals of terrorists.
McCain/Palin: Did anyone expect better?

Posted by: light_bearer | October 5, 2008 2:17 AM

John 5750

Manchurian canidate? I take it you never saw the original movie with old blue eyes. Former P.O.W ring a bell.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 2:17 AM

"Ahh, liberals... when the truth hurts, cry about it. That's all I see here. Liberals whining and crying because the Obamanation has been outed for being a slimeball."

We're not hurt and crying because we're sad. We're crying because comments like yours are so funny it hurts.

john5750, r e l a x d u d e .

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 2:17 AM

NEWSFLASH!!

Someone showed Sarah Palin the New York Times!

Pity she's unable to read it.

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 2:14 AM

"No wonder Putin likes Obama so much."

You moron, you got it wrong. It was George Bush and Putin who had the "love fest." Remember.

Putin has said nothing about Senator Obama.

George Bush: "I will answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. And I appreciated so very much the frank dialogue."

"This was a very good meeting. And I look forward to my next meeting with President Putin in July. I very much enjoyed our time together. He's an honest, straightforward man who loves his country. He loves his family. We share a lot of values. I view him as a remarkable leader. I believe his leadership will serve Russia well. Russia and America have the opportunity to accomplish much together; we should seize it. And today, we have begun."

Not this time. There is no "communist, or socialist in the Obama philosophy.

Senator Obama is a free market capitalist. He taught Constitutional Law at the ultra conservative University of Chicago Law School for 12 years- a school which employs mostly Republicans on its faculty. He got along with them famously. The school offered him full tenure.

Give it up- your hate and fear tactics are doomed to failure.

Not this time.


Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 2:14 AM

I wish sean hannity would take his followers to a small island don't forget the kool-aid.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 2:13 AM

Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate

A major new expose about the Obama candidacy has been published. The point is that the entire, out-of-nowhere candidacy of Obama--the least qualified, least patriotic Presidential candidate in all of U.S. history--screams "set-up."

Could Hillary have been lynched by the RBC because the same people who gave Obama $400,000,000 for just his primary campaign promised big bucks to the DNC if they killed off their front man's competition?

Here is the editorial review at Amazon.com, seller of this book. I read the customer reviews. The negative ones seem like regulation camp Obama stuff. The positive reviewers have heavy-duty credentials. And if the book should suddenly disappear or be permanently unavailable, we'll know for sure that it's teling the truth

Editorial Reviews
Product Description
Barack Obama is a deeply troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by the intelligence agencies, using fake polls, mobs of swarming adolescents, super-rich contributors, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power.

Obama comes from the orbit of the Ford Foundation, and has never won public office in a contested election. His guru and controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the deranged revanchist and Russia-hater who dominated the catastrophic Carter presidency 30 years ago.

All indications are that Brzezinski recruited Obama at Columbia University a quarter century ago. Trilateral Commission co-founder Brzezinski wants a global showdown with Russia and China far more dangerous for the United States than the Bush-Cheney Iraq adventure.

Obama's economics are pure Skull & Bones/Chicago school austerity and sacrifice for American working families, all designed to bail out the bankrupt Wall Street elitist financiers who own Obama.

Obama's lemming legions and Kool-Aid cult candidacy hearken back to Italy in 1919-1922, and raise the question of postmodern fascism in the United States today.

Obama is a recipe for a world tragedy. No American voter can afford to ignore the lessons contained in this book.

About the Author
Webster Griffin Tarpley (Massachusetts 1946) is an intelligence expert and historian who has been studying and exposing covert operations for over thirty years. He is the author of George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography (1992) and 9/11 Synthetic Terror (2005). He has appeared on C-SPAN, CNN, Fox News, and many more.

Posted by: john5750 | October 5, 2008 2:12 AM

John 5750

He don't pay us to monitor blogs, or call talk shows but listening to hannity everyday could cause lose in common sense.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 2:10 AM

Gosh, which "ties" to terrorists are more troubling?

Obama once sat on a board of directors with someone who did crazy things when Obama was EIGHT YEARS OLD...

or

McCain's chief fundraiser Carl Lindner funding Columbian terrorist groups?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/mccain-fundraiser-oversaw_n_110354.html

Posted by: B2O2 | October 5, 2008 2:09 AM

Hey john5750

What local branch of the KKK do you belong to? The only gorilla in the room is you. And you're an endangered species.

The FBI is watching.

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 2:07 AM

thanks john5750

Now I will go vote for Obama 5 times

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 2:05 AM

gregcontreas

Thanks for the info I will vote for John McSame now.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 2:03 AM

OBAMA IS FRIENDS WITH MURDERING ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORISTS, HE'S BACKED BY FARRAKHAN, HAMAS, AND THE BLACK PANTHERS, HE TAKES MONEY FROM IRAQI CRIMINALS, THE SAUDIS PAID FOR HIS COLLEGE, COLLEGE RECORDS ARE DESTROYED, CAN'T PRODUCE A LEGITIMATE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR PASSPORT, ACORN IS HIS FRONT FOR ELECTION FRAUD AND MONEY-LAUNDERING, AND ON AND ON.

HE IS CONSTANTLY TRYING TO END FREE SPEECH.

OBAMA CALLS UP HIS OBOTROOPS TO HARASS AND THREATEN AUTHORS OF BOOKS ABOUT HIM AND THE RADIO STATIONS THAT INTERVIEW THE AUTHORS AND ANYONE IN OR NEAR THE RADIO STATIONS.

HE THREATENS TV STATIONS AND THE NRA TO STOP RUNNING TRUTHFUL ADS ABOUT HIM.

HE PAYS TROLLS TO MONITOR WEBSITES AND BLOGS.

HE WANTS ANYONE WHO TELLS A LIE ABOUT HIM TO BE PROSECUTED AND GO TO JAIL. BUT HE AND HIS OBONUTS CAN LIE ALL DAY LONG WITHOUT PROSECUTION.

HE HAS HIS ACORN TROOPS REGISTERING DEAD PEOPLE AND MULTIPLE REGISTRATIONS FOR THE SAME NAME AND MORE.

HE SENT HIS THUGS INTO THE CAUCUSES TO STEAL DELEGATES USING THEFT, THREATS, FORCE, AND EVERY KIND OF FRAUD IMAGINABLE.

HE PUT HIS GORILLA WIFE ON TV TO SCARE US.

WHAT'S NEXT?

Posted by: john5750 | October 5, 2008 2:02 AM

Governor Palin doesn't realize that Americans are now more afraid of Republicans than terrorists.

Posted by: DGSPAMMAIL | October 5, 2008 2:02 AM

When obama win Joe libermen will be mr. nobody. The butt of every joke around the senate. Ned lamont look pretty good right now.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 2:01 AM

Sarah Palin showed that she is now willing to name the paper put in front of her, but she didn't show that she had read it.

If she wants to talk about pals of Presidential candidates, she can just get information from John McCain about the Keating 5.

Posted by: llong51 | October 5, 2008 2:01 AM

But, Obama's relationship with Ayers was more than just casual, they worked together -- closely -- on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge which dispensed some $110 million to far left social groups promoting social agitation instead of actual education. Since Ayers wrote the (winning) $50 million grant, he must have had some say in the hiring of Obama, dontchathink. Obama even worked at the same law firm as did Bernadine Dorhn. Don't you do investigative journalism anymore, WAPO?

Posted by: gregcontreras | October 5, 2008 2:00 AM

It is obvious to me that all John McCain wants to do is start another war, so that he can 'win" the one that he felt was lost in Viet-Nam.

He is no better than a modern day deranged Don Quixote. We need to wake up and realize this before it is too late.

Watch his anger and impatience as he shuts down the Senate investigation in 1991 into the missing POW's and MIA's in Laos. He has not changed. He is ruthless in his disrespect and obvious hate for the poor lady trying to get information about her missing husband.

McCain is beneath contempt.

Takes place in the first video on the website with much background to follow. The site is maintained by Viet-Nam veterans who feel that John McCain is attempting to cover up his past as the "songbird" who gave classified information to Russian interogators working in Hanoi for the Vietnamese.

View the information at:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6065

This man was dangerous then, and even more dangerous now.

Viet-Nam Veteran
Khe Sanh 1968

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 1:59 AM

Sarah Palin is a terrorist.

Prove that she isn't.

Posted by: codysea | October 5, 2008 1:59 AM

Senator Obama was eight years old when the weathermen were staging their viloent protests against the Viet-Nam war.

He has always denounced the tactics and morality of that organization.

William Ayers was a distinguished professor at the University of Illinois when Senator Obama served on the Woods foundation charity board. They were not good friends, and did not have close associations.

Senator McCain hugged his former prison guard from the Hanoi Hilton when he revisited Viet-Nam. His guard was and is still a communist. Does that make Senator McCain a communist?

Guilt by association will not work.

John McCain has nothing to offer our country except more killing and wars. He has no solutions for our economic or international problems. He doesn't even sing "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran in tune.

He is out of touch, possibly demented, and a very angry and irrational person.

Not this time.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 1:56 AM

DID SOMEONE MENTION COMMUNISTS???

Top US Communist Says, “Elect Obama ”

If this pattern doesn’t make you stand in line the very minute your polls open on November 4, I don’t know what will.

Recently I posted a piece on how the organized the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) and the CCDS Marxist-Leninist party are working hard for Obama too–from Chicago, of course.

The Real Barack Obama has also recently reported that Chicago’s Marxist Party is also working hard for Barack Obama.

Well, The Real Barack Obama blog now informs us that we can add the Communist Party to the list.

In shades of the late 60s and the early 70s, I see a Barack Obama pattern here that has little to do with Democracy.

Let’s just say these people don’t wave the American flag a lot or enjoy Democracy as we know it.

Toss in an Obama Cold Call Center In Gaza City, an endorsement and campaign contributions from Hamas, Ethnic Cleansing Cousin Odinga, a crazed Jihad-loving Zbigniew Brzezinski as his top foreign advisor, endorsementa from Iran and North Korea’s currently comatosed “Dear Leader,” and I would say we have a real problem here in the candidacy of the still-unvetted Barack Obama, wouldn’t you?

I’d say we’re talking about a guy who is planning Change You Simply Cannot Believe. I mean, it’s a good thing Stalin and Guevara aren’t still alive or they would be endorsing Obama too.

The Real Barack Obama has the full story here on the recent Communist Barack Obama endorsement. Here are some quotes:
Libero Della Piana is New York State chairman of the Communist Party USA, former national organiser of the party and a member of the CPUSA’s 140 strong National Council.

Like virtually all of the CPUSA’s several thousand members and supporters, Della Piana is working to elect Barack Obama to the US Presidency.

Comrade Della Piana sees the upcoming US election as an opportunity to change the direction of the US.

No wonder Putin likes Obama so much.

Posted by: john5750 | October 5, 2008 1:56 AM

Oh, yeah, let's talk about Presidential candidates palling around with terrorists. Did you know that one of the candidates was on a radio show with a convicted terrorist, telling him what a great friend he was and how much the candidate admired the terrorist's values? Did you know that this candidate's terrorist friend led the largest assault against American democracy, criminally acting against a party to steal information, plant untruths and steal an election? Did you know this same urban terrorist advised the Branch Davidians (remember that kooky sect?) to shoot at Federal ATF agents' heads so they could shoot above their flak jackets? Did you know that this terrorist advocated laying waste to large swaths of Viet Nam? And has said how much he admired Hitler? Did you know this terrorist held a fundraiser for his chosen candidate, and has contributed $5,000 to him, $1,000 this year alone?
Is this Barack Obama? Oh, no. This is John McCain and his buddy, convicted felon G.Gordon Liddy. I defy you to find any testamonial of Ayers by Obama that comes close to the fawning apologist crap coming out of John McCain as it pertains to this criminal urban terrorist. Liars ... hypocrites ... dishonorable unAmericans. And WaPo ... where's the expose on this???

Posted by: Omyobama | October 5, 2008 1:52 AM

Hokuto,

Library Journal and Obama can praise Ayers writings on education all they care to. It doesn't take away Ayers past, which can't be whitewashed over by granting him a place in academia and giving his writings the same respect given to other academics.

Posted by: APalinFan | October 5, 2008 1:51 AM

Ahh, liberals... when the truth hurts, cry about it. That's all I see here. Liberals whining and crying because the Obamanation has been outed for being a slimeball. You can pour out the tears and deny the truth but it doesn't make the truth go away.

The Obamanation had several decades to learn not to play with terrorists in public. Yet for some uncanny reason he does?

Harvard didn't teach Common Sense 101. So I guess we should just be naive enough to vote for a Muslim that has a LONG track record of hanging out with terrorists and convicted felons.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

Posted by: jeff32 | October 5, 2008 1:49 AM

Obama Agrees to PROTECT Union Corruption, not Eliminate it

Posted on May 10, 2008
-By Warner Todd Huston

So, Barack Obama claims he is a reformer. He claims he wants to clean up Washington D.C. He acts as if he just wants the truth told to the people. Well, here is some truth. According to the Wall Street Journal Barack has promised the Teamsters that if they give him their support he will kill the current Federal oversight agency that was created to root out union corruption in the workplace.

Yes, Barack Obama has said that he wishes to protect corruption, not eliminate it. Has he agreed to turn his back on fighting corruption merely so that he might be able to count the votes of union thugs in his column?

It has been revealed by inside sources that Obama secretly promised the Teamsters that he will end the strict oversight that the Federal government has through an independent oversight board that was set up in 1992 because of the mob influence rampant in the Teamsters.

Obama has claimed that he favors “examining” the review board, but refuses to state publicly what that means.

However, the Wall Street Journal claims that they have found out that Obama means to scale back the board and this isn’t too hard to believe since the Democrat controlled Congress has also been slow to approve funding of the Office of Labor-Management Standards (OLMS) of late, paving the way to defund it and let it lie fallow.

If Obama follows suit with the Democrats in Congress who are trying to give corrupt unions a free hand to indulge in more corruption with no government interference, it would seem to fit the Democrat agenda.

This also shows that Obama is no “reformer” and not interested in changing anything in Washington but the party of the President.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Obama’s secret promises are a bit “unusual.”

It’s an unusual stance for a presidential candidate. Policy makers have largely treated monitoring of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters as a legal matter left to the Justice Department since an independent review board was set up in 1992 to eliminate mob influence in the union.

You bet it seems an “unusual stance” especially from the so-called candidate of “change.” After all, a secret deal to eliminate an agency that has been very effective at rooting out union crime and corruption does not ring true with a candidate who claims that he wants a “new day” of truth in Washington D.C.

Obama has said, though, that his promises to the Teamsters is not a “blanket commitment.”

But, what Obama is quoted as having said is just another example of his penchant of say nothing at all and using a whole lot of words to do it.

Barack Obama, while he was sitting on the board of the Woods Fund with his America-hating terrorist buddy Bill Ayers, helped fund a new organization by Rashid Khalidi, a mouthpiece for the terrorist PLO.

In Chicago in 1995, Mr. Khalidi and his wife Mona founded the Arab American Action Network (AAAN), a group associated with confrontational statements of support for Palestinians and antagonism toward Israel.

In 2001 and again in 2002, the Woods Fund of Chicago, with directors Ayers and Obama, made grants of $40,000 and $35,000 to the AAAN. The AAAN vice-president Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada, an American citizen, Hyde Park resident and Princeton graduate, recalled Mr. and Mrs. Obama at a fundraiser held for the then-Congressional candidate Obama in 2000 at Rashid and Mona Khalidi's home, where Mr. Obama made convincing statements in support of the PLO cause.

The shady deals Obama is involved in, linking Tony Rezko, William Ayers, Nadhmi Auchi and Rashid Khalidi is a disturbing alliance of corruption and sociopathology.

You think Jeremiah Wright is bad? That guy is just a lot of hot air compared to Ayers, a Weatherman terrorist involved in multiple attacks against military targets inside the U.S., or Nadhmi Auchi, a crooked billionaire who helped Saddam Hussein rise to power.

Actions speak louder than words, and Obama's actions show where he really stands on a lot of issues.

Posted by: john5750 | October 5, 2008 1:49 AM

True conservatives I urge you to vote for the only conservative http://bobbarr2008.com

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 1:48 AM

Right now Palin's running as a member of a Communist Politburo, not as an American politician.

Until she can function outside of the GOP propaganda bubble, she has no standing.

Posted by: JPRS | October 5, 2008 1:45 AM

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(Y a w n) this is dull.

Please come up with something new, McPalin...
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Posted by: T-Prop | October 5, 2008 1:43 AM

It is obvious to me that all John McCain wants to do is start another war, so that he can 'win" the one that he felt was lost in Viet-Nam.

He is no better than a modern day deranged Don Quixote. We need to wake up and realize this before it is too late.

Watch his anger and impatience as he shuts down the Senate investigation in 1991 into the missing POW's and MIA's in Laos. He has not changed. He is ruthless in his disrespect and obvious hate for the poor lady trying to get information about her missing husband.

McCain is beneath contempt.

Takes place in the first video on the website with much background to follow. The site is maintained by Viet-Nam veterans who feel that John McCain is attempting to cover up his past as the "songbird" who gave classified information to Russian interogators working in Hanoi for the Vietnamese.

View the information at:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6065

This man was dangerous then, and even more dangerous now.

Viet-Nam Veteran
Khe Sanh 1968

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 1:42 AM

Our country is in trouble and it could get worse with a palin /mccain ticket. Together they make a deadly combination. No experience just talk. Obama is a constitutional scholar. Mccain finishing 895 out of class of 899. Palin went to 5 schools in 6 years

Posted by: r4147824 | October 5, 2008 1:39 AM

The Campaign to date

OCAMP: Bush Bush Bush Bush Iraq Bush (Bush)
McCAMP: POW
OCAMP: Afghanistan. Iraq. justice Department. Hope.
McCAMP: POW babykiller DRILL baby GOD
OCAMP: Iraq.
McCAMP: SEXIST black SEXIST black SEXIST dress a moose GOD
OCAMP: Hope.
McCAMP: Communist BABYKILLER dress a moose GOD
OCAMP: Bush Bush Bush Bush Palin Bush Iraq.
McCAMP: SNOOTY MR SMARTYPANTS
OCAMP: wallstreet
McCAMP: GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD Reagan POW Drill GOD
OCAMP: wallstreet
McCAMP: Communist elite babykiller BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK Drill GOD POW
OCAMP: wallstreet
McCAMP: BABYKILLER dress a moose POW Reagan POW Drill POW GOD
OCAMP: Hope

etc etc

Posted by: jamesmoylan | October 5, 2008 1:38 AM

The Obama campaign was quite right to reframe McCain/Palin's strategy as "launching Swift-Boat type attacks."

Let's be clear: this campaign plan constitutes nothing less than hate tactics, character assassination, guilt by association, smears and lies. And as Atwater/Rove/Schmidt have long known, if you target the electorate's worst fears, then you can manipulate them into believing almost anything. These were the same strategies that allowed Joseph McCarthy and HUAC to reign terror on the American people and the Bush administration to manipulate our nation into an illegal and unnecessary war following 9/11.

At this point, the Republicans have nothing to use in their presidential campaign following 8 years of treachery and deceit, the blood of thousands of Americans and Iraqis and a tanking economy whose destruction they have steadily nurtured for nearly 30 years. What's left?: nothing but smoke, mirrors and fear mongering to keep the electorate from utilizing their cerebral cortexes to make an informed decision for president.

I just hope that when McCain brings up Renzo in the debate on Tuesday night that Obama reminds the Republican candidate that Mr. Obama had long ago admitted that he made a "bone head move," but still had never been implicated in any wrong-doing - unlike Sen. McCain, who still believes that despite the Senate admonishing him for his role in the Keating 5 scandal, that he was mistreated and victimized by his own colleagues in Congress.

Do we need another 8 years of amorality and unwillingness to take any meaningful level of personal responsibility in yet another Republican administration?

ENOUGH!!! I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!!!!

Posted by: fredlevy | October 5, 2008 1:38 AM

THIS IS OBAMA'S CLOSE FRIEND OF THE LAST 20 YEARS. HE HELPED B.O. START HIS CAMPAIGN. THEIR WIVES ARE FRIENDS, TOO.

William Ayers is a former member of the Weather Underground Movement, previously known as the Weathermen, a radical 1960’s Maoist movement dedicated to sparking a revolutionary overthrow of the United States government. The group carried out jailbreaks of members, bombings, and incited riots during their run in the 1960’s and 70’s.

Ayers has admitted to being involved in bombings carried out by the group, and is quoted as saying “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

He went into hiding underground after one bomb went off accidentally, destroying a Greenwich Village apartment and killing three other members of the organization, one who was Ayers girlfriend.

Ayers is linked to bombings of the United States Capital, the Pentagon, and the Harry S. Truman Building, home of the United States Department of State, along with a series of courthouses, jails, banks, and prison administrative offices.

He, along with other members of the Weather Underground, turned themselves in to police in 1981, after a series of official acts of misconduct on behalf of law enforcement officials ensured that they would never be brought to trial for their activities.

And this self-confessed domestic terrorist has current ties to Presidential hopeful Barack Hussein Obama.

….and the media, minus Hannity, are very absent in reporting this.

This is not the only connection that Obama has with known terrorist organizations. In 2001, while serving in a paid position as director for the Woods Fund, the organization issued a grant to the Arab American Action Network, a group that has ties to the PLO. His church published a very pro-Hamas newsletter, and the churches ties with the Nation of Islam, and Jeremiah Wright’s award to Louis Farrakhan, as well as his visit to Libya to meet Muammer Kaddafi.

Do we really need a President, indeed a Senator or any other elected official, who seems to be on such friendly terms with terrorists and their sympathizers?

The Weather Underground Communist terrorists have long peddled the line that their bombings didn't kill anybody, except themselves. The book flap for Ayers book, Fugitive Days, insists that the organization carried out "strategic, bloodless bombings, including one inside the Pentagon."

Bloodless? Tell that to the family of the San Francisco policeman and those who were injured. Newspaper accounts at the time put the number of people wounded at nine.

Riddled with shrapnel, Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell died two days later at San Francisco General Hospital. A memorial was held for him in February 2007. He was a young man with his whole life ahead of him. But to Ayers and Dohrn, he was a "pig."

"Sergeant McDonnell caught the full force of the flying shrapnel, which consisted of heavy metal staples and lead bullets. As other officers tried rendering aid to the fallen sergeant, they could see that he sustained a severed neck artery wound and severe wounds to his eyes and neck," the San Francisco Police Officers Association Journal reports.

"Officers [Ron] Martin and [Al] Arnaud, who were standing several feet from the window ledge, were knocked to the ground and sustained injuries from the flying glass," it says. The blast caused them hearing impairment and shock. One officer was knocked to the floor unconscious, while another "suffered multiple severe wounds on his face, cheek and legs from the flying fragments of the glass."

I obtained Grathwohl's actual congressional testimony.
The testimony was given by Grathwohl to the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee on October 18, 1974. He testified:
"When he [Bill Ayers] returned, we had another meeting at which time―and this is the only time that any Weathermen told me about something that someone else had done―and Bill started off telling us about the need to raise the level of the struggle and for stronger leadership inside the Weathermen 'focals' [i.e., cells] and inside the Weatherman organization as a whole. And he cited as one of the real problems was that someone like Bernardine Dohrn had to plan, develop and carry out the bombing of the police station in San Francisco, and he specifically named her as the person that committed that act."

Grathwohl added that Ayers "said that the bomb was placed on the window ledge and he described the kind of bomb that was used to the extent of saying what kind of shrapnel was used in it."

This testimony completely obliterates the notion that the Weather Underground communist terrorist bombings only killed the bombers themselves. Such propaganda is designed to play down the serious nature of the terrorist crimes. It is also designed to make Obama's relationship with Ayers and Dohrn more palatable.

Grathwohl includes this conversation with Ayers in his 1976 book, Bringing Down America: An FBI Informer with the Weathermen. The park police station bombing in San Francisco was "a success," Ayers is quoted as saying,
Grathwohl reveals that Ayers himself knew how to make bombs and didn't care about people being killed. At one point, he says, Ayers displayed a diagram of a bomb, with dynamite and a fuse. The plan was to bomb a police station but an objection was raised that it would also destroy a nearby restaurant. "We'll blow out the Red Barn restaurant," Grathwohl said. "Maybe even kill a few innocent customers". "We can't protect all the innocent people in the world," Ayers replied. "Some will get killed. Some of us will get killed. We have to accept that fact."

Grathwohl says the Weather Underground also considered using kidnappings and assassinations in order to bring about their communist revolution in the U.S.

Posted by: john5750 | October 5, 2008 1:38 AM

OBAMA IS A CROOK. PERIOD END OF STORY

His connection to Acorn and the real estate mortgage blowup is absolutey confirmed. The Barney Frank, Obama crowd used the taxpayer for gains to their crooked friends.

Anyone who excuses Obama out of pure hatred of Bush and overlooks his crooked connection to Acorn, Frank et.al, is a traitor to this country.

We can not hand over this country to socialists like Obama, Soros and the rest of the scum on the left.

Posted by: prhornbeak | October 5, 2008 1:36 AM

"As long as it's the truth (not "Palin is a professional stripper") then it's not gutter politics.
Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 12:17 AM |"
_________________________________

HEY JOE,,JAKE,,WHATEVER,,DRILL ME BABY,,DRILL ME!!!

Look pal you saw it. She's the winking hooker down on the corner!

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:34 AM

"Why is it that most of the people in these blogs who really HATE Sarah are women."
--
I have absolutely ZERO respect for this woman because she is a lying self-absorbed mental midget with no scruples.

But, she can recite pre-scripted material.

BTW: I am a male.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 5, 2008 1:33 AM

It is obvious to me that all John Mccain wants to do is start another war, so that he can 'win" the one that he felt was lost in Viet-Nam.

He is no better than a modern day deranged Don Quixote. We need to wake up and realize this before it is too late.

Please watch his anger and impatience in action as he shuts down the Senate investigation in 1991 into the missing POW's and MIA's in Laos. He has not changed.

It is in the first video on the website with much background to follow. The website is maintained by Viet-Nam veterans who feel that John McCain is attempting to cover up his past as the "songbird" who gave classified information to Russian interogators working in Hanoi for the Vietnamese.

View the information at:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6065

This man was dangerous then, and even more dangerous now.

Viet-Nam Veteran
Khe Sanh 1968

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 1:33 AM

"Turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times was a domestic terrorist" [Palin]

Hmmm...

Turns out that Palin's hubby (self-proclaimed 'First Dude' (with DUI, I might add)was a member of the Alaska Independence Party whose goal is to bring about the secession of Alaska from the US.

Posted by: we-the-people | October 5, 2008 1:31 AM

Palin's husband was a member of a society which advocated Alaska's secession from the United States of America. Does that mean she was aiding and abetting this group?
Does that make her an associate of someone who advocated treason?


Posted by: seemstome | October 5, 2008 1:31 AM

Folks,,these are not "COSERVATIVES"! They don't conserve anything. These people are murdering thieves!

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:30 AM

"As long as it's the truth (not "Palin is a professional stripper") then it's not gutter politics.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 12:17 AM |"
-----
So since what Palin is saying isn't true then she IS engaging in gutter politics.

What do you think of McCain's association with convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy?, you know, the guy who used the public airwaves to instruct people how to kill law officers, telling them to shoot for the head as soon as they knock on the door.

How about Palin's very close connections to the un-American traitor AIP?

Tell me JakeD.

But, you don't see Obama going there do you, you know why? Because unlike McCain and especially Palin, he has a sense of decency and a vision for America that is not based on ignorance, innuendo and fear.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 5, 2008 1:28 AM

I like that she mentioned that she read the NYT - at least she reads something.

Posted by: ceeveg | October 5, 2008 1:27 AM

"Gov. Palin did not violate any law in claiming the per diem."
Posted by: JakeD

JakeD,

everone agrees that Governor Palin did not "violate" any "law," but she certainly violated good ethics by doing the same thing that other corrupt politicians in Alaska have always gotten away with. Remember, she ran as a reformer.

She did violate IRS regulations by claiming her husband's travel expenses- he was not an employee of the State of Alaska.

She is a pathological liar and probably the most politically and culturally ignorant person ever to run for national office.

Wink about that- doggone it.

"I'll find some and bring 'em to ya." How embarrassing.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 5, 2008 1:27 AM

A simple question: Did Ayers bomb more innocent humans than McCain?

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:26 AM

One more comment...

If the campaign is to be fought in the gutter, then maybe the article out of the current Rolling Stone magazine about John McCain should be front and center. If the Conservatives want to talk about what has happened since the 60's, maybe they would like to answer some of the provocative information offered up in this article.

Posted by: hoosierliberal | October 5, 2008 1:26 AM

This is from the A.I.P. website.

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE
Q: What is the Alaskan Independence Party?

A: An Alaskan political party whose members advocate a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority; from advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska.

Q: Aren't most Alaskan Independence Party members a bunch of radicals and Kooks?

A: The party has its share of individualists, in the grand Alaskan tradition. No longer a fringe party, the A.I.P. is a viable third party with a serious mission and qualified candidates for elected offices.

Q: If Alaska became independent, wouldn't we lose a lot of federal money?

A: No. If Alaska returned to territorial status, most federal money would still be available. If Alaska were to attain complete independence, its revenues from oil and other natural resources would far exceed the amounts currently received from the federal government, at our current level of resource utilization.

Q: If Alaska were independent, what would happen to my social security check, federal pension, or military retirement?

A: People receive these checks around the world, regardless of their place of residence. In most cases eligibility for such checks would not be affected by Alaskan independence.

Q: If Alaska became independent, would U.S. military bases leave?

A: The strategic location of Alaska would indicate that it would serve U.S. interests to maintain a presence in Alaska. The military are good neighbors. There would be no compelling reason for the military to leave Alaska.

Q: Didn't we vote for statehood already?

A: The vote for statehood was invalid because the people were not presented with the range of options available to them. Further, the federal government has since breached the contract for statehood on numerous occasions in over a dozen serious and substantial instances.

Q: Under independence, what would happen to all the federal controls and regulations?

A: We believe that controls should be exerted by the lowest possible governmental unit. The people of Alaska can better decide what controls need to be in place than can bureaucrats in Washington. Specific local regulation might be either more or less restrictive than current federal regulation. The point is that it will be our regulation, not Washington's.

Q: Would I lose my U.S. citizenship?

A: Depending on the form of independence, several forms of citizenship would be possible, including the retention of U.S. citizenship or dual citizenship. However, considering the moral, educational, and economic decay of the U.S., Alaskans' who hold themselves to a higher standard might very well decide to at least maintain an arm's length distance from a country in decline.

Q: What will happen to major U.S. stores such as Sears, Safeway, and McDonald's?

A: Any company which found it profitable to sell in Alaska would remain. Without the constraints of the deteriorating U.S. economy, and with the enormous wealth of Alaska, international as well as local companies will prosper.

Palins husband Todd was a member for years.

Palin said, "Goodluck on a successful and inspiring convention, keep up the good work and god bless you." She spoke to their convention as governor in 2008.

Posted by: seemstome | October 5, 2008 1:25 AM

A simple question: Did Ayers bomb more innocent humans than McCain?

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:25 AM

Why is it that most of the people in these blogs who really HATE Sarah are women. Hate her....hate, hate, hate. Got to be jealousy. Could be that Sarah is everything they are not - attractive, smart, personable, successful, and respected. Women, please, give it a rest. Your venomous assaults on this wonderful women are just highlighting your own personal self-hatred and contempt.

Posted by: mhayden2 | October 5, 2008 1:24 AM

Jude4,

I don't underestimate KARL ROVE's ability to exploit humaness, it takes a special talent of non-humaness to do so. He has to be eradicated FORTH WITH!!!

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:22 AM

I do not condone the acts of Wm. Ayres, no matter that it was 40 years ago. I also do not believe Barack Obama is guilty of anything other than guilt by association. I know a lot of conservatives also have a lovefest with David Horowitz, the former 60's radical who now has re-formed his image with radical conservative credentials. I'd ask if Sarah Palin has had any sort of meetings with him, but then again I doubt she's ever heard of him. After all, like Barack Obama, she was less than 10 years old when Ayres and Horowitz were doin' their thing. That's the worst thing about having McCain running for President: we baby-boomers are still fighting the battles of our youth, the 1960's, and he's a constant reminder of that. Barack and Sarah don't have any idea what it was really like in 1968, and that's good. It's time to let the 60's die, once and for all.

Posted by: hoosierliberal | October 5, 2008 1:18 AM

This woman is F'in despicable with no ideas, just corn-ball slogans.

This story about Ayers is so old and tired, first, Obama never "hung out" with Ayers and if Ayers is such a big terrorist then how come he is a respected professor at a major university?, how come the DOJ hasn't jailed him? and at least he doesn't want to secede from the union like Palin's doofus husband.

So while we are on the subject of "terrorist" associations let's talk about McCain and his good buddy G. Gordon Liddy who was THE CENTER of one of the biggest political scandals of our time, Watergate.

Liddy, a convicted felon used the public airwaves to instruct people and encourage them to commit acts of murder on public officials. He is an unabashed proponent of domestic terrorism and John McCain calls him his good friend and recently said that he "was proud" of him and his family.

Oh REALLY?, proud of a man who tried to get our citizens to open fire on our law officials?, Proud of a man who instructed people to "aim for their heads" over the public airwaves and also said that he uses the President's and first lady's photos for target practice?, really John, are you proud of that still?

If anybody is "hanging" with terrorists it's John McCain.

And his little dumb hit-lady should STFU and learn some respect and stop lying to the public, it is McCain and her kind that are traitors to America because nearly everything they say is a LIE.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 5, 2008 1:17 AM

I'd like some journalist to ask McCain whether he agrees with Palin's lies or not. Instead of hiding behind her skirts, he should either take responsibility for her sleazy behavior and comments, or he should denounce them. How can anyone respect him after this? There's no depth he (or rather, his surrogates) won't sink to. Pathetic desperation.

Posted by: TomJx | October 5, 2008 1:16 AM

Look, you had a woman that winked and asked if she could call you JOE,,,that's a corner buy where I come from!

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:16 AM

Never underestimate the power of the great puppet master, Karl Rove. If the Democrats
were smart, they would have hired him to begin with. He would be exposing all of the Keating 5 intricacies.

Posted by: jude4 | October 5, 2008 1:14 AM

Palin's ignorance is appalling. That she is running for vice-president with so little knowledge and by avoiding serious issues is frightening.

Posted by: stuck_in_Lodi | October 5, 2008 1:13 AM

Don't believe Republican LIES, FABRICATIONS and MISREPRESENTATIONS of Obama and his policies.

McBush and the Pitbull know they cannot make legitimate attacks on Obama, so what do they do? They stoop so low into the gutter and MAKE UP STUFF about him to try to instill fear into people and to deflect attention from their HOPELESS CALAMITY of a campaign and lack of true plans, policies and ideas about reform.

FACTS ABOUT OBAMA:
1. He is a Harvard law professor and constitutional law expert, with a Juris Doctor of Law degree and is involved in many senate committees such as foreign affairs, homeland security, veterans affairs, health, education and family (he has the qualifications and experince)

2. He is patriotic and only cares about America and the interests of its people

3. He is not and has never been a Muslim

4. He is not and has never been associated with terrorists (he was only 8 years old at the time of the Ayers scandal!!!!)

5. He has never been to a "madrassa"

6. He is not planted by Osama Bin Laden to infiltrate America (don't laugh, some idiots really believe this!)

VOTE OBAMA, not McBush

Posted by: kbuckingham777 | October 5, 2008 1:11 AM

WOW,,the SPINNERS are going to have to swallow this one! Are you reading this DAVID BROOKS?

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:10 AM

You too can join Rich Lowry and masturbate in front of a picture of Sarah Palin.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 5, 2008 1:08 AM

JakeD,

You are still being conveniently evasive and not answering my question; if it is wrong to assume guilt by association of Palin even though her husband was in fact a member of the AIP, how can you not equally defend Obama from attacks of guilt by association for a much more tenuous connection with Ayers?

Jesus is watching JakeD and I am not saying that cynically.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 5, 2008 1:08 AM

Look it over JOE,,,I got the parts huh? What do you think? My 72 year old procurer says I have a future in the business.

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:07 AM


At pains to minimize their connections...

The whole story is much worse if you care to take a deeper look.


Posted by: dbj1 | October 5, 2008 1:07 AM

For that woman to say anything of the sort about Obama, which is just a lie, is beyond contemptuous.

The whole McCain campaign is a cesspool of lies and deceit.

Palin is no more ready to be vp let alone president, and if people don't want to look at McCain's medical condition and fess up to the fact Palin is a train wreck, then they don't care much about his country.

Posted by: hmmmmmer | October 5, 2008 1:06 AM

This Sarah Palin is stupid. She must have Joe Lieberman read her the New York Times.
Sarah Palin will do anything and say anything they tell her to. What an idiot.
If she ever gets to the White House, she will be the door mat.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 5, 2008 1:03 AM

Gov. Palin did not violate any law in claiming the per diem.
Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse
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How do you know that? Same way you know that Cheney did not bomb the WTC?

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 1:03 AM

Here's an article with a photo of Ayers STANDING ON AN AMERICAN FLAG: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/

Posted by: American_Citizen
__________________________________

Why do NAZIS call themselves TOM USA, American-Citizen, Pure Blood..etc ?

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 12:59 AM

Gov. Palin did not violate any law in claiming the per diem.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 12:59 AM

It should be enough to say:

"Well now you see, Sarah, here you go again...bringing up the past when you are saying you're gonna change things...."

What I find extraordinary is the republican bent on twisting the truth they know some people will swallow without checking the facts. Like Obama's having been EIGHT YEARS OLD at the time. I think the Obama team should put up a HUGE billboard, showing an eight year old kid standing next to some 60's hippies types and show Palin pointing a finger at the kid saying "palling around with terrorists".

During the debate, Biden could have pounced on the reference to McCain having experience in winning wars (for those of you who might not know this, we actually lost the Viet Nam war, the only war I know McCain ever having fought in)

Also Palin continuously tried to mock and talk down to Biden about bringing up the past. Well, what was she ding every time she referred to McCains having acted as a so-called maverick in the past?

I guess there's a difference:

Democrats can not bring up the past. Period.

Republicans can bring up a past that never happened.

I guess that is what makes the difference for republicans these days. If it happened, you can't bring it up. But you can bring up the past about things that NEVER HAPPENED. That makes sense actually, because if it never happened, it isn't really bringing u the past.

"Well, here you go again, Joe...bringing up the present and exposing BS".

Posted by: ronn2 | October 5, 2008 12:59 AM

"She's a thief!"

Yeah, a thief of hearts. It's that twinkle, you know. Gets 'em every time.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 12:55 AM

SHE'S A TRAMP!!!

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 12:53 AM

Palin, like Gertrud Scholtz-Klink head of the Nazi Women's League, is doing her job: Promote male superiority and the importance of child bearing in Paris Hilton alike stilletos.
With a difference. Paris is more beautiful and wears t-shirts Alaska Moose killer could never afford, such as: "Lets safe the planet before bedtime."

Posted by: tabita | October 5, 2008 12:52 AM

Here's an article with a photo of Ayers STANDING ON AN AMERICAN FLAG: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/

Posted by: American_Citizen | October 5, 2008 12:52 AM

Palin billed the state for per diem travel when she was staying at home. Her and her family collected thousands of taxpayer dollars. She's a thief!

Posted by: blarsen1 | October 5, 2008 12:51 AM

"It took a real woman to do it!"

I had a good look at her the other night on television. I'll vouch. She's real alright. Not a hologram. Not a special effect. Not a videogame character. Yep, there's a real person in there...somewhere.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 12:50 AM

Clearing the fog of charity away, Sarah Palin reveals herself to be the pawn of Carl Rove, utilising his lies and deceit. May they both fall into the pit of despair.

Posted by: naahbob | October 5, 2008 12:47 AM

Look it over JOE,,,I got the parts huh? What do you think? My 72 year old procurer says I have a future in the business.

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 12:46 AM

Hey, don't you know a good "PIECE" when you see it JOE?

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 12:41 AM

Both the parents of Tzipi Livni, Olmert’s successor, were active terrorists. I have no knowledge on the subject but I assume she associated with them at some time. Is a McCain/Palin presidency going to stop associating with Israel?

Posted by: chrisleithead | October 5, 2008 12:41 AM

Palin is out of her league. Her antics may play well in her backwater town, but on the world stage she and McCain look desperate and pathetic. They will drop even further next week.

Posted by: blarsen1 | October 5, 2008 12:40 AM

I have three words to say: Alaskan Independence Party. Obama has nothing to do with terrorists, but Palin has a lot to do with the Alaskan Independence Party. Her husband was a member till she ran for Governor. She, as Governor, addressed the party's convention. This is a party that wants Alaska to secede from the United States. Didn't we fight a Civil War over that. It is Palin who is friends with traitors, not Obama. How can we have a Vice-President who has ties to a party that wants to withdraw from the United States? Isn't that cavorting with traitors?

Posted by: LW22 | October 5, 2008 12:40 AM

Run! Some old radicals are coming down the street! They've got bombs strapped to their walkers!

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 12:35 AM

Shucks, Shoot, DARN Joe...I'm winking and my 72 year old PIMP is waving!! DRILL ME BABY,,DRILL ME!!

Posted by: harried | October 5, 2008 12:34 AM

These little dipwit writers at the post are so pathetic. It's about time someone exposed Obama's radicalism and it won't be the dimwits at the Washington Post.
It took a real woman to do it!

Posted by: kalamere | October 4, 2008 10:57 PM

I never heard or read anywhere that Hillary called Obama a radical.

Please enlighten me.

Posted by: jime2000 | October 5, 2008 12:28 AM

The lies about Gov. Palin are debunked here:

http:\\www.palinrumors.com

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 12:24 AM

padmanabhan40, the ultimate expression of your dissatisfaction will be available to you on election day. Don't hesitate to take advantage of it. Vote your gut.

Myself, I'll be voting for O'Bama. (He's Irish, right?) Not because I despise McCain or think he's dangerous or anything like that. In fact, I really respect the guy, and I know many democrats --most people-- feel the same way. But he doesn't excite me and I disagree with some of the key ideas and plans he's expressed so, there you go.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 5, 2008 12:22 AM

As long as it's the truth (not "Palin is a professional stripper") then it's not gutter politics.

Posted by: JakeD | October 5, 2008 12:17 AM

no No NO NO!!

America will NOT stand for gutter politics such as this.

CALLING YOUR OPPONENT A TERRORIST?

Un-real, even for the Republicans.

This is you wake up call, America.
STAND UP!

STAND UP against these lies and smears!

STAND UP against politics as usual!

STAND UP for real change!

Right now, write a letter to the editor of your local newspapers,
call a friend or family member,
talk to a neighbor,
email major news media and BLAST the McCain/Palin campaign for their endless onslaught of dirty tricks.
Explain to your fellow Americans that we are smarter than this. That we demand and deserve more from our politicians.

The time is NOW!

Posted by: jgarrisn | October 5, 2008 12:11 AM

“There you go again Sarah Louise Palin”
Always looking backwards to minor events and misrepresenting the facts. Only to hide the lack of foresight of the McCain / Palin ticket. You Betcha’ don’t YA’ know the Game is going bad for Ya’, so Daddy Mac needs his airhead CHEERLEADER to try to distract the audience from the game. So they don’t see the dirty plays and lack of MAVERICK leadership on the field.
McCain / Palin
LIES before HONOR

Posted by: kimb54 | October 5, 2008 12:06 AM

Right on time. I was waiting for McCain and the right-wing to go from straight-talk to smear-talk and looks like it has come as expected. Well folks, this is what a 7pt deficit in the polls and less than a month to go will do to "Mavericks", I guess.

Posted by: cpatwork | October 5, 2008 12:05 AM

The Fix is eager to certify that Obama had "minimal" contact with the terrorist Bill Ayers and to accept Obama's explanations at face value!!! No scepticism here! Unlike the deep disdain for Palin who has actually made a success as Governor of Alaska! McCain must tear apart the character of Obama so that American voters can see the danger he presents to our country.

Obama has no experience nor any achievements. This is compounded by his elitism and extraordinary arrogance. He looks down on ordinary working Americans. Note his contemptuous comment about these folks sticking to their guns and religion because they are "bitter"!! And his arrogant statement "you are likable enough Hillary". If Palin or McCain had made this kind of statement the media would have killed them. Obama's policies are mere term papers written for him by his Harvard cronies. He does not have the ability to muster the bi partisan support to get them past Congress. And with the current financial crisis he will not have the money to implement even a fraction of his tall promises!

Only McCain can get America going once again. He has the guts and networking ability to get the cooperation of Democrats to pull America out of the rut it finds itself in now.

Posted by: padmanabhan40 | October 5, 2008 12:03 AM

The main takeaway from today's NY Times story is that Obama's ties to Ayers are, if anything, less substantial than commonly alleged. So if the Ayers association means Obama "palled around" with "terrorists," as Palin put it today, surely Palin can be said to have "palled around" with a secessionist party whose founder openly professed hatred of America.

Posted by: ghuntcustom | October 5, 2008 12:00 AM

"Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

Terrorists? Plural? Who are these other terrorists, Sarah? Come on! If you know something we don't know, fess up!

Though the McCain campaign would surely deny considering this, saying "terrorists" in this way links perfectly with these crackpot anti-Obama emails going around, saying that he would casually take tea and cookies with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, comparing his name to Osama, stating that he is a muslim, and so forth.

Four years ago we might have said crude but shrewd. Now we just say puh-lease.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 4, 2008 11:59 PM

Looking that the USA election campaign from and Australian point of view, I cannot understand how anyone could possibly take this woman (Palin) seriously, let alone anything that she says. In Australia we had a person with similar views present for election to our Federal parliament and was typical of a certain type that saw the world in a simplistic way. Like Palin this person appealed to those who wanted simple answers to complex issues and when they failed to understand the complexity of [any] situation they turned their ignorance into a virtue. The person I'm talking about was elected but, thank God, not to a position of importance as is that of the VP. In their time in Parliament this person was divisive, belligerent and destructive. Palin's comments are so similar to our experience that it's frightening.
The world cannot afford America to make another mistake as it did when it elected the present incumbent. I realise Palin is not running to be president, but McCain is an old man and Palin could be the next President. Presently the world looks at America with jaundiced eyes because of Bush. You need, and so do we, someone who will restore the respect once associated with your great nation. Bush lost that respect and America is now seen as a vulnerable, inward and impotent.

Posted by: jjkevin | October 4, 2008 11:59 PM

JakeD,

You're being evasive for convenience sake. If you maintain a standard for one individual, it must be applied to all individuals. Isn't that what is at the very core of our constitution in the Bill of Rights? (Yes I know stating both is kind of redundant.)

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 11:54 PM

wes1155:

As long as the truth is out there (Gov. Palin was not a member and no one intimidated the AIP Secretary to correct the record), I trust the American people to sort out all the associations.

Posted by: JakeD | October 4, 2008 11:49 PM

Hockey mom need to be a better mother. Her family is a train wreck. 16 year old daughter contracted an STD, and got pregnant to a hockey dude. Sarah it's all about you, and you don't give a damn about your kids or your husband. You even had an affair with first dude business partner.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 11:48 PM

looks like it's kitchen sink time.

Posted by: YUTZ | October 4, 2008 11:47 PM

McCain and Palin pal around with Bush and Kissinger.
The level of death, terror and destruction they've paved through the world make Ayers look like a dime store shoplifter.

Posted by: edlharris | October 4, 2008 11:38 PM

We have a former SDS and Weatherman relative in the family. A cousin of mine. These days he has a pretty typical family life with kids, grown up now, a great job, lives in a nice suburban community, etc. The funny thing is that he became republican during the Reagan years. Go figure. : )

Posted by: old_hippie | October 4, 2008 11:34 PM

John McCain was not qualified to fly but having a fleet commander for a dad, and grand dad affirmative actioned him into the naval academy. Finishing 895 out of 899.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 11:29 PM

Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin will be suspending their campaign to save the US economy from disaster so they can talk about a news article that completely contradicts them.

Maybe they should read an article before citing it? I heard that after a few days, Gov. Palin decided that she reads the NY Times regularly.

Posted by: ScottinNC | October 4, 2008 11:25 PM

rsho understates the case: "This smacks of GOP desperation."

LOL. I think we're a bit beyond "smacks of" at this point. The desperation is not just palpable, but olfactory; you can smell it like a vast cloud of smog settling over the wingnut base.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 4, 2008 11:25 PM

From the AIP website:

Q: Aren't most Alaskan Independence Party members a bunch of radicals and Kooks?

A: The party has its share of individualists, in the grand Alaskan tradition. No longer a fringe party, the A.I.P. is a viable third party with a serious mission and qualified candidates for elected offices.

Todd Palin is a radical.
Governor Palin is a kook for wanting to secede from the United States of America.

keep up the good work, Sarah.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 11:24 PM


Looking that the USA election campaign from and Australian point of view, I cannot understand how anyone could possibly take this woman (Palin) seriously, let alone anything that she says. In Australia we had a person with similar views stand for election to our Federal parliament and was typical of a certain type that saw the world in a simplistic way. Like Palin this person appealed to those who wanted simple answers to complex issues and when they failed to understand the complexity of [any] situation they turned their ignorance into a virtue. The person I'm talking about was elected but, thank God, not to a position of importance as is that of the VP. In their time in Parliament this person was divisive, belligerent and destructive. Palin's comments are so similar to our experience that it's frightening.
The world cannot afford America to make another mistake as it did when it elected the present incumbent. I realise Palin is not running to be president, but McCain is an old man and Palin could be the next President. Presently the world looks at America with jaundiced eyes because of Bush. You need, and so do we, someone who will restore the respect once associated with your great nation. Bush lost that respect and America is now seen as a vulnerable, inward and impotent.


Posted by: jjkevin | October 4, 2008 11:18 PM

The real John McCain - bully, traitor, liar, adulterer and warmongering criminal

watch the videos and read the information about John McCain- the Manchurian candidate- here:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6065

Viet-Nam Veteran
Khe Sanh 1968


Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 11:16 PM

This smacks of GOP desperation. We have seen the result of voting on character, values at the expense of judgement and good governance. I think it's time to stop this nonsense of personal destruction. The country has too many real problems to solve and we need good leaders to provide stewardship. Step aside, Palin. We can't afford on-the-job training at the top!

Posted by: rsho | October 4, 2008 11:15 PM

From the Alaskan Independence Party website:

"However, considering the moral, educational, and economic decay of the U.S., Alaskans' who hold themselves to a higher standard might very well decide to at least maintain an arm's length distance from a country in decline."

Palin said, "Goodluck on a successful and inspiring convention, keep up the good work and god bless you."
She spoke to their convention as governor in 2008.

The United States of America needs to keep Sarah Palin at an arm's length.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 11:14 PM

According to the Keating 5 scandal article McCain and his family recieved vast amounts of money and gifts from Keating. The article says:

"McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981, and McCain was the closest socially to Keating of the five senators. Like DeConcini, McCain considered Keating a constituent as he lived in Arizona. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates. In addition, McCain's wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators. McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating's expense, sometimes aboard Keating's jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating's opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay."

Posted by: JohnMcCormick | October 4, 2008 11:04 PM

ThePhotogsBlog,

And to everyone else who believes Palin is "dumb". You believe so at your own risk. Palin may be ignorant, uninformed and superficial, but she is not dumb. Palin is very skilled at manipulating people to get what she wants. To underestimate Palin's abilities to attain her ambitions would be foolish.

Palin knows how to play her audience to a tee. There may not be much intellectual depth, but Palin is a populist par excellence and I mean populist in the disparaging definition of the word.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 11:02 PM


Last time I checked Obama wasn't married to Ayers. Palin not only supported the AIP, her spouse was a member. Check out her youtube


Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 11:01 PM

This is a new low for the McCain campaign. Never in our history have we been in greater need of character, but instead we get character assassination. This is why I am voting for Obama.

"Which of you would hand his son a stone when he asked for a peice of bread, or a snake if he asked for a fish?"

Posted by: fishingriver | October 4, 2008 11:00 PM

Here is the article on the Keating 5 scandal McCain was involved in in 1989.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_5

Posted by: JohnMcCormick | October 4, 2008 10:59 PM

....or is it Shrill, baby, Shrill school girl Sarah?

Posted by: Genefox1 | October 4, 2008 10:59 PM

These little dipwit writers at the post are so pathetic. It's about time someone exposed Obama's radicalism and it won't be the dimwits at the Washington Post.
It took a real woman to do it!

Posted by: kalamere | October 4, 2008 10:57 PM

Speaking of past associations: the Keating Five comes to mind.

Posted by: Brian34 | October 4, 2008 10:57 PM

AIP website:

Q: Aren't most Alaskan Independence Party members a bunch of radicals and Kooks?

A: The party has its share of individualists, in the grand Alaskan tradition. No longer a fringe party, the A.I.P. is a viable third party with a serious mission and qualified candidates for elected offices.

Which was Todd Palin, a radical or a kook?

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 10:55 PM

Palin window of opportunity will close after this election. John McCain will not stand in her way because it's all about sarah.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 10:53 PM

Sarah, Sarah...Sarah. Your school girl logic in this way would have your critics suggesting you are a sex addict 'cause you have five children. Is this what we expect your puppeteers to produce in the next four weeks. Chill, baby, chill.

Posted by: Genefox1 | October 4, 2008 10:52 PM

JakeD,

If you believe just because Todd Palin was a member of the AIP and just because she attended AIP conventions she is not guilty of AIP's secessionist views, wouldn't it be hypocritical to draw the conclusion Obama ascribes to Ayers' "radical" views through a much looser association?

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 10:52 PM

Where is McCain's buddy Charles Keating spending his time nowadays? In 1989 McCain masterminded the collapse of the Lincoln Savings and Loans which the government was forced to bailout with $200 Billion of taxpayer money. Keating spent 5 years in prison. John McCain was the mastermind and one of the 5 senators who were involved in the scandal. Is McCain's memory fading away? The help he provided to Keatings by deregulating the banking industry in the 80's cased the same problem to the financial institutions in 1989 as the current fiasco in Wall street which required a $700+ Billion bailout. The only common factor between the two is John McCain. Now McIdiot and Lipstick Palin are blaming Obama for being in a small education committee with somebody who committed crimes 40 years ago when Obama was in 2nd or 3rd grade. The question is if Ayers was such a terrorist why did the government let him loose on the streets to lead his life instead of keeping him behind bars. This is like letting a child molestor out of jail and later putting the blame on another kid when that kid is spotted in the company of that child molestor.

The McIdiot/Lipstick ticket is a shame for this country. The self declared mavericks have really no good message for this country. They are spending millions of dollars from the donors on spreading filth.

Posted by: JohnMcCormick | October 4, 2008 10:51 PM

Oh, here the Republicans go again with the sleeze! Bankrupt of any real ideas on how to get our country out of the mess that the current Republican administration has gotten us into, McPalin and their dirty trickster handlers are now turning to distortions, lies, innuendo and any other garbage they can manufacture in their desperate attempt to try to win this election - because peddling sleeze and filth is the only way they can possibly win at this point.

Haven't we had enoungh of Republican misrule? It's time for a change and we won't get the change we so desperately need is McPalin somehow manage to win. A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for another Bush/Cheney term. Hasn't our country suffered enough already?

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | October 4, 2008 10:51 PM

Q: If Alaska became independent, wouldn't we lose a lot of federal money?

A: No. If Alaska returned to territorial status, most federal money would still be available. If Alaska were to attain complete independence, its revenues from oil and other natural resources would far exceed the amounts currently received from the federal government, at our current level of resource utilization.

Traitorous rats jumping ship.
Palin says " keep up the good work "

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 10:50 PM

Sarah Palin accuses Barack Obama of "palling around with terrorists." But come to think of it, isn't her own husband a former member of a political party that expouses treason against the United States as its central tenet?

Sarah, say it ain't so! You're a long-term "pal" of a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. For years, your husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder.

As everyone knows, that group is the Alaska Independence Party, which professes the ultimate goal of seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska."

(paraphrased from another site).

Ah Sarah, say it ain't so. Say you aren't palling around with traitors!

Posted by: Hokuto | October 4, 2008 10:48 PM

I find Palin's pronouncements to be absolutely ludicrous. 5 weeks ago she was in a backwater state, looking at Russia from her window and commiserating with Putin as he flew over Alaska's airspace. Couple to this she was completely ignorant to everything else beyond the borders of Alaska. She has zero credibility.

Posted by: tydicea | October 4, 2008 10:47 PM

Sarah Palin by her own admission has only been in national politics for 5 weeks but it appears she is a quick study. In her attacks today on Mr. Obama she has proven that she has quickly embraced the republican's failed policies of attacking the character of their opponents rather than attacking the myriad of problems this republican administration has inflicted on our country. Maybe the reason they refuse to address these problems is that they just don't see them as problems and have no intentions of offering solutions.

Posted by: Brigadere | October 4, 2008 10:43 PM

Obi1Kinobi,

I disagree with you. John McCain knew knew exactly how stupid Sarah Palin is. She was chosen because he wanted someone stupider than him for his VP, which given how stupid he is, meant a very difficult search despite the abundance of idiots in the party.

Finally, along comes Sarah Palin, dumber than a bag of rocks and with a hypocrisy level that rivals, perhaps even exceeds his own. In the event of a McCain presidency, the journalists and comedians will be so busy going after Palin that they'll completely ignore him until he declares war on Spain or runs the ecomony so far into the ground that 13 million illegal immigrants in the US flee back to Mexico in search of better paying jobs.

Obama/Biden O8!

Posted by: ThePhotogsBlog | October 4, 2008 10:42 PM

PALIN CLAIM VS FACT

•“Hockey mom”: true for a few years

•“PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since

•“NRA supporter”: absolutely true

•social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconstitutional).

•pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.

•“Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation

•“Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.

•political maverick: not at all

•open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.

•has a developed philosophy of public policy: no

•”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.

•fiscal conservative: not by my definition!

•pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.

•pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents

•pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history.

•pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 10:41 PM


This is from the Alaskan Independence Party website.

"However, considering the moral, educational, and economic decay of the U.S., Alaskans' who hold themselves to a higher standard might very well decide to at least maintain an arm's length distance from a country in decline."

This is the party Palin's husband was a member of.
The same party she praised as governor in 2008. A party that advocates secession from the United States of America. The country she now wants to be president of.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 10:40 PM

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lwelch1:
"I've followed this race since it began in the primaries. Based on his opponents, the only reasonable choice is McCain-Palin."

All your info about Obama's shady past is true. The problem is that his supporters are blacks, die-hard democrats, and the young who think Obama is hip and cool. The facts meal little to nothing to them.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 4, 2008 10:40 PM

APalinFan is almost there: "It's OK to have past associations with a known terrorist and to praise a book by one, as long as you condemn his bombings and are now focused on health care."

Let ME get this straight: "past associations" is a pretty broad brush. Care to aim it at McCain? There's plenty of paint to go around. And as for praising a book, was the book about terrorism or how to build bombs? No? Oh, yeah, the one about education and the sorry state of the juvenile justice system. So you're saying Obama should have panned the book, simply because it came from Ayers? Obama has long been interested in education and how we create social ills in the process of trying to fix them, so it seems to me the book would be an obvious one to look into; here's how *Library Journal* reviewed the book:

"Headlines regularly depict juvenile criminals as extreme and violent "superpredators"--a distorted and incomplete picture that shapes the way Americans think and feel about poor (and mostly minority) city kids. For five years, Ayers, a former member of the radical 1960s Weathermen organization, acted as a teacher and an observer in Chicago's Juvenile Court prison, the nation's first--and largest--institution of juvenile justice. Founded by the legendary Jane Addams to act as a "kind and just parent" for children in need, the court today epitomizes the confused and confusing way American justice deals with children. In Ayers's book, an account of one year in his classroom there, students describe their lives, analyze their situations, and think about their futures. Like Jonathan Kozol in Amazing Grace (LJ 10/1/95), Ayers shows that we must overcome our preconceived notions of these children and learn to deal with the realities of their lives. Ayers is a born educator and communicator, with a voice of hope. Recommended for general collections."

Sounds real scary all right.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 4, 2008 10:39 PM

Worthless drivel from idiot Palin

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 4, 2008 10:38 PM

This anther dirty trick McCain / Palin bring to hide their own failed Bush / Cheney failed policy . Because they don’t have anything to offer American people.

Posted by: free910 | October 4, 2008 10:38 PM

wes1155:

As long as we agree she wasn't member. I do not admit anything else.

OB1:

You posted some lies. Are you still around?

Posted by: JakeD | October 4, 2008 10:35 PM

lwelch1,

And the National Review is a right wing publication, so what's your point? If the Times article proves nothing, the National Review article is no more creditable.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 10:34 PM

SARAH SARAH....YOU RULE SO AWFUL

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%.

During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. W

hat did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later--to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's surplus, borrow for needs.

She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 10:31 PM

Something else which believe it or not I haven't seen much discussed about Palin is her premeditated political posturing.

For the Palins, 2002 was an interesting year. Todd leaves the AIP and registers as a Republican. The Palins leave the Wasilla Assembly of God, the church Sarah Palin was raised in and join the more moderate (moderate?) Wasilla Bible Church AND Palin runs for Lieutenant Governor in the Republican primary.

Of course after her failed attempt Murkowski appointed her to the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission in 2003 and served for 8 months. Eight months mind you, in a politically appointed position as co-chair. This is were her "expertise" in energy comes from if you don't include her husband working for BP. Well she sleeps with Todd, he works as a production supervisor so of course she is an expert. Kind of like seeing Russia from Alaska.

But the point is Palin has always been all about herself and her political ambitions. You might rightly argue most politicians do the exact same thing ad that's the point, Palin IS no different than other politicians except well maybe on the lower end of the comprehension scale when it comes to actual issues. She is pure and simple a populist and will say whatever she believes will advance her ambitions whether it is true or not. She's no maverick just like McCain is no maverick.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 10:30 PM

Sarah palin is a sad case for a mother of four. She cheated on her husband with his business partner.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 10:28 PM

I'm trying to understand the thinking of Obama supporters on this issue: It's OK to have past associations with a known terrorist and to praise a book by one, as long as you condemn his bombings and are now focused on health care. Something tells me that McCain or Palin couldn't get away with that spin. From the Times story: 'In 1997, after Mr. Obama took office, the new state senator was asked what he was reading by The Chicago Tribune. He praised a book by Mr. Ayers, “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court,” which Mr. Obama called “a searing and timely account of the juvenile court system.”'

Posted by: APalinFan | October 4, 2008 10:27 PM

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE
Q: What is the Alaskan Independence Party?

A: An Alaskan political party whose members advocate a range of solutions to the conflicts between federal and local authority; from advocacy for state's rights, through a return to territorial status, all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska.

Q: Aren't most Alaskan Independence Party members a bunch of radicals and Kooks?

A: The party has its share of individualists, in the grand Alaskan tradition. No longer a fringe party, the A.I.P. is a viable third party with a serious mission and qualified candidates for elected offices.

Q: If Alaska became independent, wouldn't we lose a lot of federal money?

A: No. If Alaska returned to territorial status, most federal money would still be available. If Alaska were to attain complete independence, its revenues from oil and other natural resources would far exceed the amounts currently received from the federal government, at our current level of resource utilization.

Q: If Alaska were independent, what would happen to my social security check, federal pension, or military retirement?

A: People receive these checks around the world, regardless of their place of residence. In most cases eligibility for such checks would not be affected by Alaskan independence.

Q: If Alaska became independent, would U.S. military bases leave?

A: The strategic location of Alaska would indicate that it would serve U.S. interests to maintain a presence in Alaska. The military are good neighbors. There would be no compelling reason for the military to leave Alaska.

Q: Didn't we vote for statehood already?

A: The vote for statehood was invalid because the people were not presented with the range of options available to them. Further, the federal government has since breached the contract for statehood on numerous occasions in over a dozen serious and substantial instances.

Q: Under independence, what would happen to all the federal controls and regulations?

A: We believe that controls should be exerted by the lowest possible governmental unit. The people of Alaska can better decide what controls need to be in place than can bureaucrats in Washington. Specific local regulation might be either more or less restrictive than current federal regulation. The point is that it will be our regulation, not Washington's.

Q: Would I lose my U.S. citizenship?

A: Depending on the form of independence, several forms of citizenship would be possible, including the retention of U.S. citizenship or dual citizenship. However, considering the moral, educational, and economic decay of the U.S., Alaskans' who hold themselves to a higher standard might very well decide to at least maintain an arm's length distance from a country in decline.

Q: What will happen to major U.S. stores such as Sears, Safeway, and McDonald's?

A: Any company which found it profitable to sell in Alaska would remain. Without the constraints of the deteriorating U.S. economy, and with the enormous wealth of Alaska, international as well as local companies will prosper.

This is from the A.I.P. website.

Palin said, "Goodluck on a successful and inspiring convention, keep up the good work and god bless you." She spoke to their convention as governor in 2008.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 10:27 PM

The real John McCain - bully, traitor, liar, adulterer and warmongering criminal

watch the videos here:

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/6065

Viet-Nam Veteran
Khe Sanh 1968

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 10:26 PM

I think Sarah Palin should have passed on the suggestion to voice this fabrication. That she didn't --I assume she has a choice in these decisions-- is disappointing and rather perplexing. Going down this road won't help the McCain campaign anyway, and these comments will only come back to haunt her.

Posted by: old_hippie | October 4, 2008 10:22 PM

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Saturday called Republican presidential candidate John McCain not a maverick but a "mimic" of President Bush

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 10:22 PM

So now she's being spoon-fed her talking points from the NYT? LOL! Besides, I thought the Times was no longer a credible news source. Too funny.

Posted by: martymar123 | October 4, 2008 10:20 PM

Sad to see the complete loss of honor on the part of John McCain. In his fanatical quest for the White House all scruples and sense of fairness have been thrown to the wayside. This is not the John McCain of 2000. This is a man who has discarded all of the good things he accomplished in his life for the Presidency. Palin never had any honor to lose. Don't bother answering the questions people have for you! Tell any lie you can think of to discredit the opponents! Twist the truth! She is all about herself. I started voting in the 60s and I don't think I have ever seen anyone as completely unqualified and nasty as Palin running for VP. I wonder if John McCain can look in a mirror. I was not one of those questioning his senility but I am beginning to wonder. I voted for Geraldine Ferraro-good candidate! In choosing Palin McCain went for hype over substance. May he not win the White House or God help us.

Posted by: DeeH1 | October 4, 2008 10:20 PM

SPIRO AGNEW LIVES! Only this time, wearing a sexually repressed skirt and cheap glasses.

The McCain camp just wallowed to a new low. Not even lipstick on this pig. It's ALL muck.

Posted by: tdub55 | October 4, 2008 10:19 PM

Me (raising my hand): Sarah (wink!), I have a question: when will you be holding a press conference with your exorcist to explain what he was referring to when he cast out all the witches and python spirits? I've heard of albino corn snake spirits, king cobra spirits, and gray banded kingsnake spirits, but I've NEVER heard of "python spirits." Please advise.

Also, does the "witchcraft" specifically refer to the wiles of Obama and Biden, or does it just mean ordinary political shenanigans? or maybe the "axis of evil"?

Also, do you still have any of those neat voodoo dolls of Obama for supporters? Our "Pin a Pin on Obama" group would love to have a few more; we're running out of space on the one's we have.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 4, 2008 10:18 PM

JOE BIDEN'S RESUME

Joe Biden is a Democratic senator who has represented Delaware since 1972 and is the candidate for vice president on the ticket with Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois. Biden has served as chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and as a member of the Senate Democratic Steering and Coordination Committee and Senate National Security Working Group. He grew up in New Castle County, Del. Biden graduated from the University of Delaware in 1965 and from the Syracuse University College of Law in 1968. Before being elected to the Senate, Biden practiced law in Wilmington.

SARAH PALIN'S RESUME:

Poor white trash, moose killer, ugly queen, weather girl, went to 5 colleges--graduated with D average from the last, ran Alaska into debt as Governor, picked by an John McCain as running mate, however, he did not know how stupid she is

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 10:17 PM

For most voters the william ayers story falls into the so what who cares file. Check the polls

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 10:17 PM

This woman is as despicable and as dangerous as her old, angry, spiteful, irrational running mate. She just parrots libelous soundbyte lies that have been fed to her by Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis.

What a laugh to make the comment, "according to the New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, " This, after her handlers have branded the Times as a mouthpiece for the Obama campaign.

John McCain must not be allowed to use the Bush smear campaign that defeated him in the 2000 primary. He has gone out and hired the whole gang. He is apparently willing to tell any lie in order to get elected. Watch him in the video- telling lies about Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk&NR=1

Not this time. Don't let it happen again.

John McCain must not be allowed to get us in any more wars- or to be close to the nuclear trigger.

Ready, Fire, Aim McCain is a dangerous, irrational, angry demented, senile curmudgeon who has chosen a cluless, ignorant barbie doll as the next potential President of the United States. He has made us the laughing stock of the civilized world.

Send the old codger back to Cindy's ranch in Sedona where he can tend the barbecue for his wealthy lobbyist friends.

As Sarah Palin says, "He is not like you or me." She got that right, for once.

Idiots.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 10:16 PM

Thank GOD for

votevets.org

mediamatters.org

bravenewfilms.com

dailykos.com

huffingtonpost.com

factcheck.org

moveon.org

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 10:15 PM

McSame is attacking Obama's character because he has no solutions to offer the American people. He has completely wrecked his chances by putting Barbie Doll Palin on his ticket. McCain is desperate and so is fighting dirty now. This is exactly what Bush did to him in 2000. It won't work this time.

John mccain a true american traitor putting himself first before his own country.
ask american pows they have nothing but having shame and be offended by him while knowing that he was cracked and
gave up his country to communists playing in movie against his own country.
american enemy may want this coward and crook as president but real american heroes not.
true christian and faithful person will be stupid to vote for mccheater who has admitted adultery, since voting for him as same as endorsing adultery.

Posted by: ksarabi | October 4, 2008 10:14 PM

All you Ayers nay-sayers, check out this post. It's a long one, so scroll full right to left:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWI0MjY3NzMyODgxZGM2ZjUwNTE1MmEzOGRiZmFkNWE=

The NY times is a liberal-minded newspaper. It is an openly biased piece of journalism that shouldn't even qualify as journalism. It's more of a very big liberal editorial page. Don't count on it for truth or at least seek out other sources that are neutral or even conservative. Find out all you can about this man. There is more behind him than he wants made public.
Have you forgotten his pastor of TWENTY years, whom he considers to be his mentor, a part of his family, and the man that has had the most impact on his life?
Obama lied saying that he'd never heard controversial comments made by Wright. Yes, he lied ... until he had to come clean! Do you honestly believe that he was unaware of this man, this church's hate for the American Way. Wright was his mentor. A mentor teaches, leads, and encourages. So, based on Wright's philosophies, are you sure about just what he taught, led, or encouraged?
Why did he finally denounce and disown his mentor, his father figure, his pastor, and the greatest male influence of his life? First, he refused. So, WHY did he finally do it? To save his political @$$. His hand was forced to do what he did not want it to do. Yet, he betrayed his beloved mentor for a bag of silver coins. Sad that his love of this man meant less to him the power he so greatly craves. How can you trust his words, his promises? He doesn't even know YOU! So, how much more would he do to you than he did to a man that was "like a member of his own family"?
William Ayers? Liar, liar, pants on fire. That is meant for both Obama and his American-hating terrorist neighbor. Did you read the link?
Tony Rezko? Convicted felon who was such a friend and associate of and to Obama.
Now, onto the Sarah Palin "gotta hate her" fan club. Reading your comments, she must be the most feared and hated woman of all democrats and liberals.
Is it her beauty that makes you fear her? Is it her quick wit? Is it that she represents everything you don't? Is it her down-home attitude, mannerisms, and way of speaking that makes you fear her?
An honest politician, with a political science degree, (Yes, she DOES know something about politics!) she is the newest of the four on the national and and international scene, but STUPID she is NOT. She learns quickly, has the heart and soul of one of us, and has the hutzpah to do the job. She fights for what is good and true about this nation and all those other HORRIFIC things!!! Wake up!
You fear her to point of hating her. I read it in your comments.
You point to her 6-figure income? For heaven's sake, she is the governor of Alaska. Wouldn't you think she would make at least most of that money just from her daily job? Is it possible, that like so many others, she doesn't choose to have massive amounts of credit? Is it possible that she and her husband may put something in investments or savings to prepare for their future and that of her family? C'mon, how many of you bloggers have a 6-figure income or close to it... or maybe even MORE of it.
Your precious, truthful, and upright Obama said when elected to the U. S. Senate in response to the question of if he would run for president in 2008, "No, I think that job needs someone with more experience." If those are not the exact words, they very close and convey his own awareness of his lack of knowledge and experience.
Do I believe that John McCain is a perfect candidate? No, there are others who have the qualifications, but his party chose HIM.
I've followed this race since it began in the primaries. Based on his opponents, the only reasonable choice is McCain-Palin.

Posted by: lwelch1 | October 4, 2008 10:13 PM

What an insult, what a slap in the face this kind of thing must be to intelligent Republicans.

And, what arrogance, actually citing a source & claiming that it says something that they want their people to believe, when, in actuality, it says the opposite.

Do they not think that their supporters actually take the time to think for themselves, to double-check that what they are saying is true? How ignorant they must think that Republicans & their voters are.

Posted by: maureenn | October 4, 2008 10:13 PM

While Obama is talking about solving the healthcare problem Palin and McCain are talking about whether or not Obama knew a 60s radical. That pretty much sums up the relevance of the two choices we have. I've had enough of the Republicans' gimmicks and wedge non-issues. I'm ready for someone that will actually move us forward and solve serious problems.

Posted by: jay_casey | October 4, 2008 10:12 PM

if the obama/biden campaign wants to combat the mccain/palin politics of fear, all they need to do is post a photo of winkin' sarah with the title President Palin in bold print. what the heck, throw in the first dude for good measure. now that's a heart stopper.

Posted by: smartchick1 | October 4, 2008 10:12 PM

shepherdmarilyn

one addition
the North Vietnamese asked for our help in gaining freedom from the French after WWII.

How can we raise to the higher level of expectation set by Obama/Biden?

Posted by: grandma4 | October 4, 2008 10:11 PM

Keep listening to Hannity if you want Mrs dumass. Sean will have you writing checks you can't cash.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 10:10 PM

Say it isn't so, Va Gina Cheney!

Posted by: hamishdad | October 4, 2008 10:10 PM

Let's play down and dirty, biatch:
Consistently falling behind in recent polls and due to economy not being their turf, what else could they do except express racism and intolerance under the guise of character assassination?
Sarah Palin's attack on Obama's patriotism over baseless "association" with Bill Ayers legitimates us to raise questions about the Palins' associations with a group founded by an Alaska secessionist who once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed our "damn flag."She participated in a conference organized by this secessionist group, of which her husband is a life-time member.
And it legitimizes to question Cindy McCain's association with terrorism. Cindy held $2 million in investment funds owning shares of Sudan-linked companies, thus she supported terrorism in Darfur. His wife's "funds had ties to the Sudanese regime, which has armed and supported militias considered responsible for killing, raping and torturing hundreds of thousands of civilians in the country's Darfur region" (quoted from ABC).In an effort to quickly suppress her association with terrorist genocide, she sold those holdings only after a reporter's inquiries.
It also legitimizes to question Palin's another act of terrorism that her son is involved in ethnic cleansing of Sunnis in Iraq, thus helping to embolden Shia Iraq and, by default, Ahmadinejad's regime in Shia Iran.
It also legitimizes to question Republican party's foreign policy platform of state sponsorship of unilateral military terrorism around the globe against whoever disagrees with their conservative fanaticism, Nazism, deregulated Capitalism, and Evangelism.
Spread this everywhere by copying and pasting.

Posted by: sgreen2006 | October 4, 2008 10:10 PM

This William Ayers association with Obama is dead news!!! Fact checked many months ago!! Declared false accusations!! Obama was 8 years old when Ayers belonged to Weather Underground. Palin made confabulated claim!! Besides Ayers was proven innocent in trial. Since then Ayers finally became a respected professor at University of Illinois and worked hard to live a good and productive life. He is well known for his work in educational reform. Obama and Ayers served on a charity board and another group for short while. Fundraiser for Obama at Ayers house was setup by Alice Palmer since she was leaving office Obama was campaigning for. That was first time Obama and Ayers met I think. I do know they are not friends nor do they cross paths.

Palin should talk!!! Ask her if legislative investigation is going to find her guilty of abuse of power as Governor next week???? McCain and Palin have done all they could to delay stop investigation which started before she was chosen vice president. 100% of legislators voted for investigation. Palin advised by attorney July - situation is grim. Advised to make public apology to Trooper Wooten and police commissioner, fire anyone in her administration who had contact with police commissioner attempting to get him to fire Palin's brother in-law or stop his workers compensation payments for back injury, and rehire police commissioner. And Palin was to hope for best. Emergency appeal has been filed by Palin- McCain as court already ruled this last Thursday legislative investigation should continue. Appeal Hearing is Wednesday. Thursday is when results of investigation is to be released.

Has been real cover-up of the truth. I have court transcript record of Palin's sister divorce trial, whole police investigation, agency/government documents pertaining to case. This lady said she would be open to investigation, had nothing to hide. Then when chosen as vice president all has been cover-up and top attorney brought in by McCain to stop/delay this totally fair investigation started prior to her selection. All Americans have an absolute right to know if Palin is guilty of abuse of power. Americans do not need a Vice President elected who may be guilty of abuse of power. Truth must come out before election!! Go check Anchorage Newspaper. Some articles are still there. Go to Troopergate.

Posted by: sharonkl | October 4, 2008 10:10 PM

If Palin wants to go back to the Weathermen, who's actions took place when Barrack was 8yrs. old.

Lets go back to McCain paling around with the Keating Five, and supporting those who where screwing their investors over big time.

McCain says he doesn't know much about the economy, and that is obvious. But, back when he was hand holding Keating he knew enough to attempt to save the crooks, when it was to his advantage. And he did vote against regulation 21 times.

Posted by: Billy1932 | October 4, 2008 10:09 PM

A conservative columnist who welcomed Sarah Palin's entry in national politics says she's proven to be a dud and should step aside as John McCain's running mate.

Kathleen Parker, writing in the National Review Online, says her "cringe reflex is exhausted" after watching the Alaska governor stumble through TV interviews and it's become clear to her that Palin is out of her league

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 10:06 PM

Before Sarah Palin decided to run for the Wasilla mayor's office in 1996 against incumbent John Stein, the Palins and Steins were friends. John Stein had helped launch Palin's political career, mentoring the hockey mom during her 1994 run for City Council, along with veteran council member Nick Carney. Stein's wife, Karen Marie, went to aerobics classes with Palin.

But when she announced her candidacy for Stein's seat, vowing to overturn the city's "old boy" establishment, a different Sarah Palin emerged. "Things got very ugly," recalled Naomi Tigner, a friend of the Steins. "Sarah became very mean-spirited."

The Wasilla mayor's seat is nonpartisan, and Mayor Stein, a former city planner who had held the post for nine years, ran a businesslike campaign that stressed his experience and competency. But Palin ignited the traditionally low-key race with scorching social issues, injecting "God, guns and abortion into the race -- things that had nothing to do with being mayor of a small town," according to Tigner.

Palin's mayoral campaign rode the wave of conservative, evangelical fervor that was sweeping Alaska in the '90s. Suddenly candidates' social values, not their ability to manage the roads and sewer systems, were dominating the debate. "Sarah and I were both Republicans, but this was an entirely new slant to local politics -- much more aggressive than anything I'd ever seen," said Stein, looking back at the election that put Palin on the political map.

There was a knife-sharp, personal edge to Palin's campaign that many locals found disturbing, particularly because of the warm relationship between Palin and Stein before the race.

"I called Sarah's campaign for mayor the end of the age of innocence in Wasilla," said Carney.

Even though Palin knew that Stein is a Protestant Christian, from a Pennsylvania Dutch background, her campaign began circulating the word that she would be "Wasilla's first Christian mayor." Some of Stein's supporters interpreted this as an attempt to portray Stein as Jewish in the heavily evangelical community. Stein himself, an eminently reasonable and reflective man, thinks "they were redefining Christianity to mean born-agains."

The Palin campaign also started another vicious whisper campaign, spreading the word that Stein and his wife -- who had chosen to keep her own last name when they were married -- were not legally wed. Again, Palin knew the truth, Stein said, but chose to muddy the waters. "We actually had to produce our marriage certificate," recalled Stein, whose wife died of breast cancer in 2005 without ever reconciling with Palin.

"I had a hand in creating Sarah, but in the end she blew me out of the water," Stein said, sounding more wearily ironic than bitter. "Sarah's on a mission, she's an opportunist."

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 10:06 PM

If Sarah Palin wasn't a member of the Alaska Independence Party, then why did she pose in a caribou-fur bikini for their calendar?

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 4, 2008 10:06 PM

Sarah, why does the "terrorist" that you speak of living like an ordinary citizen in Chicago. How come GW has not shipped him off to Guatanamo yet. Please, the American public is not stupid and will not buy into your nonsense and false outrage

ben

Posted by: bbnn1 | October 4, 2008 10:05 PM

Don't believe Republican LIES, FABRICATIONS and MISREPRESENTATIONS of Obama and his policies.

McBush and the Pitbull know they cannot make legitimate attacks on Obama, so what do they do? They stoop so low into the gutter and MAKE UP STUFF about him to try to instill fear into people and to deflect attention from their HOPELESS CALAMITY of a campaign and lack of true plans, policies and ideas about reform.

FACTS ABOUT OBAMA:
1. He is a Harvard law professor and constitutional law expert, with a Juris Doctor of Law degree and is involved in many senate committees such as foreign affairs, homeland security, veterans affairs, health, education and family (he has the qualifications and experince)

2. He is patriotic and only cares about America and the interests of its people

3. He is not and has never been a Muslim

4. He is not and has never been associated with terrorists

5. He has never been to a "madrassa"

6. He is not planted by Osama Bin Laden to infiltrate America (don't laugh, some idiots really believe this!)

VOTE OBAMA, not McBush

Posted by: kbuckingham777 | October 4, 2008 10:03 PM

I think Sarah (wink!) needs to hold a press conference together with her exorcist and explain what they were referring to when they cast out all the witches and python spirits. Are these evil spirits specifically referring to Obama and Biden, or just Washington politicians in general? or the "axis of evil"? Also, is Sarah still passing out voodoo dolls of Obama to her supporters?

Posted by: Hokuto | October 4, 2008 10:02 PM

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." -

-Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS's Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 10:01 PM

We need some messages to reign this crap in. Tom Hayden, Patty Hearst, William Ayers et al. were naughty children that grew up. They did their thing when Obama was a kid.

Obviously this means we need to throw a little crap here and there by asking "Why the changes in the "Troopergate" investigations which push the outcome to after the election?"

Ignoring subpoenas...transparency?

All the small town dirt (I'm sure there's plenty) relating to her budget deficits in Wasilla, some of the backbiting ruthless and reckless behavior in her delegation of authority, vindictive firings (other than Troopergate) and more should be highlighted in a brief independently funded Swiftboat campaign of telling the plain truth which the G.O.P. has systematically tried to cover up.

Get some more candid interviews with questions she's ducked in the past. See what happens. Throw in some current events questions in which she has to give hypothetical responses to a variety of situations.

It's wonderful to see how desperate the Pubs have gotten.

Hey Karl, your boy's pulled out of Michigan! Slap on some lipstick, get back in there and fake it!! Finding a beehive wig in an antique shop around Detroit shouldn't be too hard, right? The specs should be easy too.

Posted by: HiloBob | October 4, 2008 10:01 PM

"I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you."

--Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years in the Senate, CBS interview, Sept. 24, 2008

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:59 PM

Yep, she is the same person that wants more power over the legislature (if she's VP) and who doesn't even understand the current responsibilities of the VP. She is Dick Cheney in a skirt, and who would be divisive for the US government, not to mention the world.

Posted by: insideman | October 4, 2008 9:58 PM

Palin also told Couric that she "wouldn't blame mans' activities on climate warming" which indicated some kind of neuron misfire in her brain I guess. Although, pregnancies go up during cold spells, don't they?

Posted by: rrau22 | October 4, 2008 9:58 PM

I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --

Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:57 PM

So it's come to this. Be proud, republicans. This is your party. And it's over.

Posted by: DemoDevil | October 4, 2008 9:56 PM

EarlC,

Huh? You might be adressing someone else on your reply.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 9:56 PM

William ayers is a national hero, G gordan is a crimal

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 9:56 PM

We can expect great emphasis on Rezko, Ayres, and Wright in the next weeks -- that's all they have to fight with. It's a dangerous game, since McCain has actually CONSPIRED with other lawmakers (in the Keating 5 savings and loan scandal, for with he was officially reprimanded by the Senate), lobbyists and big corporations for decades. Just to cover the bases: ---- Rezko dealings have been *thoroughly* investigated by, among others, Chicago Tribune and Sun Times and there was nothing illegal or underhanded in Obama's connection with him and NO funny-business in connection with his (Obama's) home purchase ---- William Ayres is a professor at the Univ. of Chicago whose protest activities are decades in the past and any connection with Obama was a 'meet your constuents' party that Obama's predecessor too him to, sitting on two charitable Boards of Directors, and I believe a $200 or $500 campaign contribution --- and Rev. Wright is a highly-respected minister of a multi-racial congregation who (I agree) says some unsavory things .... but from over 30 years of taped sermons, people opposing Obama have only found the 4 brief snippets of outrageous statements .. one of which was a quote from someone else (a former Ambassador appearing on Fox News) and three of which were parts of quite unexceptional, traditional sermons. ---- Rant all you want but that won't change the very UNscandalous facts about each of these connections. If there was anything to the charges, do you really think Hillary and Bill Clinton wouldn't have shouted them from the rooftop to secure the nomination. Sorry - there is no "there" there. If Obama had been involved in illegal, unethical behavior, he wouldn't have the supporters he does. Instead, those like me who carefully looked into each of these charges (and others) have learned that he is both admirable and trustworthy. He and Joe Biden will be the best leaders our country could possibly have in these troubled times.

Posted by: esommers2 | October 4, 2008 9:56 PM

"All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years."

--Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:56 PM

LOL! :-D

Hey Obomasamamites;

All those Wonderful, Too good to be True, Miraculous, and VERY Vague,

Promises, by the Messiah "Barry" O'Bomba-Nation,


Well,

He DID,


Promise "Changes"! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 4, 2008 9:54 PM

"Obama has still NOT denounced William Ayers."..Nor has Mayor Daley or President Bush or anyone else. Besides, we're friends with Qadhafi and what do you call him?

Since Palin brought this up, she's the one who will be painted as treacherous, untruthful(she claims to be a Christian) or unbalanced. All that on top of being a dingbat. tsk tsk

Posted by: rrau22 | October 4, 2008 9:54 PM

"Well, let's see. There's -- of course -- in the great history of America rulings there have been rulings."

--Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:53 PM

i don't think this is going to work this time. too many people suffering not to take her comments seriously. it's actually very pathetic and pitiful, the depth of their depravity and desparation.

it's an insult and a disgrace that the republicans have taken the low road since they don't have anything to offer the american people. they're believing their own hype that palin's appeal stretches beyond the beer drinking, snake handling, evangelicals and that people see her as some type of superhero, hypo-psycho-pucker, soccer mom.

i'm pulling my copy of the "the election" off the shelf tonight. i swear she reminds me of the reese witherspoon character who would resort to the lowest of tactics to win student body president of her high school. the only diffence between palin and the movie is that reese's character sounded a little more smarter than palin and was far more qualified to win the presidency of the united states let alone her high school.

Posted by: glenknowles | October 4, 2008 9:53 PM

Palin's son Track was arrested when 16 for vandalizing dozens of school buses in
Wasilla. Palin pulled strings and got him off.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 9:53 PM

Wiel,

The "Great OB" doesn't need to explain his record there because anyone with half a brain can find out for themselves. As has been stated many times, the "hundreds of thousands" came from individuals who worked there, NOT from Fannie or Freddie.

Maybe you and others don't realize this but election campaign finance laws require a person to state their employer when you make a campaign contribution. It is required over a certain amount ($200 if I remember correctly), but most campaigns require the information so if you contribute multiple times they have a way to track it.

Now the REAL question is how much did each candidate receive from the top executive of Fannie and Freddie and who has the lobbyist ties. There McCain wins hands down.

Just another RNC/Palin-McCain provided talking point smear for the trolls.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 9:52 PM

That letter mccain said Eisenhower wrote is a good idea for John mccain he need to suspend his campaign like forever. Send that drive by moose killer to alaska.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 9:51 PM

Wes1155 needs to reread the whole NY Times story about Bill Ayers. Remember that he had just written a book about his years in the Weathermen. He was also recounting some of his own thoughts about that time, not 2001. It was just unfortunate that the interview, which occurred before 9/11 came out on or just after 9/11. Context and chronology are important. When a person wants to read the worst in a situation to try to assassinate the character of someone, he can surely do it.

For me, McCain has no real character with his defending of his low-life campaign, his adulterous relationships while he was married to a wife who really needed him speaks volumes. The same people who will never forgive Bill Clinton have thrust an adulterer onto the American public as the best that they have to offer for the top political job in our country. I guess, the Repubs are all adulterers and possess no oratorical skills.

Posted by: EarlC | October 4, 2008 9:51 PM

"I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."

--Sarah Palin, interview with Alaska Business Monthly, March 2007

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:50 PM

I cannot wait for the New York Times to investigate Obama’s role in pushing the Community Reinvestment Act in Chicago (that’s subprime mortgages for the poor and minorities for those who do not get it). I cannot wait for the New York Times to reveal Obama’s involvement with Fannie and Freddie (these are two federally funded mortgage companies that went under while politicians and its executives raked hundreds of thousands of dollars to their own pockets called campaign contributions.) Yes, Sen. Obama was one of those. Can the Great OB explain his involvement there?

Posted by: Wiel | October 4, 2008 9:39 PM


You confuse NYT with the political wing of the Republican Party. That would be the Drugg Report. Tone done your self righteousness it is not becoming in anyone but hypocrite.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 4, 2008 9:50 PM

"A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. I'm not one though who would attribute it to being man-made."

--Sarah Palin, dismissing global warming as influenced by human activity, Newsmax interview, Aug. 2008

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:48 PM

Palin's husband was a member of a society which advocated Alaska's secession from the United States of America.
She spoke in favor of their policies at their meetings. Doesn't that mean she was aiding and abetting this radical group?

It definitely makes her an associate of someone who advocated treason, Todd Palin.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 9:47 PM

"How is Ayres any different than the Unibomber?

Are you some kind of idiot?

William Ayers never killed anyone, nor did he try to. He was never convicted of any crime.

When Senator Obama met him on the charity board, William Ayers was a distinguished profeesor at the University of Illinois who had received numerous civic awards from the Mayor.

If he was a "terrorist, the FBI would have been on him like a hawk.

Stop the smear by asscociation attempts. You are just showing your ignorance and hatred. You Rethuglican trolls are pathetic.

P.S. if you weren't working off a hit list you would know at least how to spell his name correctly.

Not this time.

John McWar must not be allowed near thea nuclear trigger.

The "Maverick" and the moose killer are dangerous and despicable.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 9:47 PM

McCain's biggest headache is not Obama. It is Palin. Sarah Palin has started quetioning the maverick about his decision to get out of Michigan. Not only does she question him, she wants her hubby to go and campaign in Michigan. Basically Sarah Palin has pulled the rug from under McCain. She wants to win this election a lot more than McCain does. She is very much aware of the half heartbeat distance from her vice presidency and the presidency. She is acting more like the top of the ticket than the bottom of the ticket. McCain is probably kicking himself for selecting this wacko lady as his running mate. She is going to take credit for all the fundraising and the size of the crowds that come to visit them on their campaign trails. New York Times said it right when the headline read "Pitbull Palin Mauls McCain". McCain is bleeding all over. Partly because of the polls and mostly because of his running mate.

Posted by: JohnMcCormick | October 4, 2008 9:46 PM

EarlC writes:

"The economic melddown that we are experiencing now is just as disasterous to our form of government as is a well-placed terrorist attack." You can't be serious.

Posted by: APalinFan | October 4, 2008 9:45 PM

"We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity." --

Sarah Palin, in her speech at the Republican Convention, quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be assassinated

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:45 PM

Whenever Palin repeats the garbage Hannity at Fox News repeats you know she doesn't think for herself. My 13 year old niece could debate her on the facts and the world. And my niece would have her saying, I'll get back to you or I refuse to answer your questions. LMAO why was she reading the NY Times? Isn't that one of those liberal rags?

Posted by: OldManTalking | October 4, 2008 9:44 PM

I am surprised to see Palin herself make these claims. Usually accusations as outrageous as these are relegated to the 527 groups.
This is opening Pandora's box, and Palin has demons aplenty of her own that will need to be confronted now.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 9:44 PM

BREAKING NEWS!!!

BULLWINKLE ASSASSINATED

Alaskan vacation turns deadly!

Bullwinkle Shot by Alaska Governor Sarah Palin while Millions Mourn

Bullwinkle J. Moose was shot dead at Community Outreach Fundraiser. Community organizers suspect political motive.

The killer, Alaska Governor, Sarah Palin shows no remorse. Palin boasts of “the kill” and was even photographed with the dying icon. Wearing the furs of animals and using them as decoration in her home, she claims to have killed them with her own bare hands. Sarah denied that this was politically motivated.

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:42 PM

True conservatives don't settle for a RINO when you can vote for
http://bobbarr2008.com go to his web site and donate time, and money. Don't vote for the lesser of two evils.

Don't listen to Hannity limbaugh ingram. DO THE RIGHT THING.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 9:41 PM

CuriousJhum - To address just one of your misstatements:"HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false." --Please check carefully researched article by Oberlander in the NE Journal of Medicine. Under McCain's plan, if you have an employer-backed program and the employer pays, for example, $7,000 for your health ins. YOU will be taxed as if you had %7,000 more income than you currently received!!! ---- If you do NOT have employer-backed health insurance, a $5,000 tax 'rebate' to you will be paid to the insurance company for your privately-purchased policy ... a policy that on average will cost $12,000!!! --- And because policies will be made "portable" under his plan, current state regulations requiring payment for pre-existing conditions, payment for preventive check-ups and care will be meaningless. The young and healthy will be able to purchase "bargain" policies from other states, leaving people who are older, have special needs, or pre-existing conditions to pay much, much, much more for their insurance. --- John McCain's health care 'plan' shows how he cares nothing, NOTHING!, for those who are not rich and everything for big corporations (like health insurers). It would worsen the current situation many times over. Biden was not lying - check your facts.

Posted by: esommers2 | October 4, 2008 9:41 PM

Oh my, Palin reads the New York Times. Wonder why she didn't say that when Couric asked what magazines and papers she reads? Answer, she is lying. The campaign gave her the lines. The NYT writer can be accused of setting it up. Palin can't complete a intelligible sentence let alone understand what is in the New York Times.

The Ayer story is an old one. Its nothing but an attempt at guilt by association. Ayers activities took place when Obama was around 11. Just because years later Ayers may have been at a social or fund raising event attended by Obama, just because they used to sit on the Board of Directors of a charitable foundation for a time, and just because they both live in Chicago, doesn't mean that Obama shares Ayers past views or condones his past activities. He doesn't.

This kind of attack rolled off Obama's back during the primaries. It will again. Its old new being recycled by a cynical and desperate McCain and his campaign thugs.


Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 4, 2008 9:40 PM

One additional thought -- how is Obama going to fight terrorists abroad when he's drinking tea and taking money from them at home. First we had Rezko and the funny money house purchase, then Billy "let's get your career launched over here in the dining room" Ayres. To top it off, you had 2x/month Sunday sermons with Jeremiah, where congregants danced in the aisles to celebrate the 9/11 chickens coming home to roost. Who is this guy, Obama? What was he like before he bought the software package for "hope and change." Where are his friends and vouchers, other than Jeremiah and Bomber Boy Billy?

Posted by: denmark_97 | October 4, 2008 9:40 PM

I cannot wait for the New York Times to investigate Obama’s role in pushing the Community Reinvestment Act in Chicago (that’s subprime mortgages for the poor and minorities for those who do not get it). I cannot wait for the New York Times to reveal Obama’s involvement with Fannie and Freddie (these are two federally funded mortgage companies that went under while politicians and its executives raked hundreds of thousands of dollars to their own pockets called campaign contributions.) Yes, Sen. Obama was one of those. Can the Great OB explain his involvement there?

Posted by: Wiel | October 4, 2008 9:39 PM

Sarah is no better then a street walking trick that will say or do anything to get paid. Todd is the first wimp. wassilla is the meth capital of the world

Their daughter is a prime example that GOD don't like ugly.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 9:37 PM

Bob22003 certainly has it close to correct in his blog. Even though I was in college and the navy during those years, I am familiar with the events happening in and around Chicago, Kent State, and even in Boston. The Vietnam War was not popular. Also, Kennedy has been assassinated in 1963. America was literally in a crisis. Government, especially under Johnson and Nixon was a mess, again much owing to the Vietnam War. We also experienced great racial upheavals with Newark, Watts, and so forth. I know that I am lumping many events together. However, the Kent State situation was a real low point. We were experiencing very turbulent times back then.

The fact remains that many people like Bill Ayers eventually turned into very respectable citizens. Now, after all of these years, he and others will be brought back into the spotlight. To my knowledge, the government dropped its case against Bill Ayers.

Now, hear this! Reagan called Oliver North an American hero. Oliver North, as far as I am concerned, showed contempt for the uniform that he wore. It was a technicality that he avoided going to prison. What did Oliver North eventually do? He became of commentator on television. The same thing has happened to one of the most notorious men of the Watergate scandal.

I assume that McCain considers Keating an American hero also. Afterall, they were very good friends. Their relationship was very much closer than was that between Ayers and Obama. I still wonder which neighbors that I know and speak to from time to time are on someone's un-American list. This is scary.

The economic melddown that we are experiencing now is just as disasterous to our form of government as is a well-placed terrorist attack. I still believe that our downfall will come from within. There are Tim McVays who live among us, most of whom are part of the fundamentalist rightwing. Their idea of patriotism is totally off the mark.

Posted by: EarlC | October 4, 2008 9:37 PM

Before Sarah Palin decided to run for the Wasilla mayor's office in 1996 against incumbent John Stein, the Palins and Steins were friends. John Stein had helped launch Palin's political career, mentoring the hockey mom during her 1994 run for City Council, along with veteran council member Nick Carney. Stein's wife, Karen Marie, went to aerobics classes with Palin.

But when she announced her candidacy for Stein's seat, vowing to overturn the city's "old boy" establishment, a different Sarah Palin emerged. Things got very ugly, recalled Naomi Tigner, a friend of the Steins. Sarah became very mean-spirited.

The Wasilla mayor's seat is nonpartisan, and Mayor Stein, a former city planner who had held the post for nine years, ran a businesslike campaign that stressed his experience and competency. But Palin ignited the traditionally low-key race with scorching social issues, injecting God, guns and abortion into the race -- things that had nothing to do with being mayor of a small town, according to Tigner.

Palin's mayoral campaign rode the wave of conservative, evangelical fervor that was sweeping Alaska in the '90s. Suddenly candidates' social values, not their ability to manage the roads and sewer systems, were dominating the debate. Sarah and I were both Republicans, but this was an entirely new slant to local politics -- much more aggressive than anything I'd ever seen,said Stein, looking back at the election that put Palin on the political map.

There was a knife-sharp, personal edge to Palin's campaign that many locals found disturbing, particularly because of the warm relationship between Palin and Stein before the race.

I called Sarah's campaign for mayor the end of the age of innocence in Wasilla," said Carney.

Even though Palin knew that Stein is a Protestant Christian, from a Pennsylvania Dutch background, her campaign began circulating the word that she would be "Wasilla's first Christian mayor." Some of Stein's supporters interpreted this as an attempt to portray Stein as Jewish in the heavily evangelical community. Stein himself, an eminently reasonable and reflective man, thinks "they were redefining Christianity to mean born-agains.

The Palin campaign also started another vicious whisper campaign, spreading the word that Stein and his wife -- who had chosen to keep her own last name when they were married -- were not legally wed. Again, Palin knew the truth, Stein said, but chose to muddy the waters. "We actually had to produce our marriage certificate," recalled Stein, whose wife died of breast cancer in 2005 without ever reconciling with Palin.

I had a hand in creating Sarah, but in the end she blew me out of the water, Stein said, sounding more wearily ironic than bitter. "Sarah's on a mission, she's an opportunist.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 9:35 PM

WHY SARAH PALIN CANNOT DISS ANYONE ELSE OR BECOME VICE PRESIDENT:

1) She is opposed to abortion even in cases of rape and incest (even if victims are children)

2) She offered a bounty of $150 for each right front leg of freshly killed wolves

3) She is presently under investigation in Alaska for abuse of power

4) She strongly supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge

5) She promotes aerial hunting of wolves and bears even though Alaskans voted twice to ban the practice

6) She supports the Alaskan Independence Party which seeks independence from the United States

7) She is a champion for big oil and her campaign slogan has become "Drill, baby, drill!"

8) She believes creationism should be taught in public schools

9) She believes man-made global warming is a farce

10) She is opposed to listing the polar bear as an endangered species because it might limit oil exploitation

11) While mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire the city librarian because the librarian refused to censor books

12) She used $400,000 of state money to fund a propaganda campaign in support of aerial hunting

13) As mayor of Wasilla, she made rape victims pay for their own forensic evidence kits

14) She obtained her first passport just last year (2007)

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:34 PM

How is Ayres any different than the Unibomber (another intellectual who wrote some nice articles) or Timothy McVeigh (not as articulate, but also a man with deeply held political views, just like Obama's pal Billy-bomber!). Is there a difference between "good" bombing (to protest Vietnam War) and bad bombing? Are the victims any less charred and maimed as a consequence? Does Obama think it would be wrong to befriend the Unibomber or McVeigh; if so, why keep this pal around?

Posted by: denmark_97 | October 4, 2008 9:33 PM

"McCain and Palin are delivering a message of hatred.

Obama and Biden are delivering a message of hope.

Nuf said."

Obama--you betcha!

Posted by: tsutsu13 | October 4, 2008 9:33 PM

You already have the stupid vote locked up Sarah - no reason to reinforce your own image of idiothood.

Tell me how you're going to help fix the economic crisis instead.

Posted by: mike21 | October 4, 2008 9:31 PM

STOP THE PRESS!!!!! Are you saying Sarah Palin actually read an article in the New York Times?

I'll say this for her: at least she's consistent. She continues to show what an idiodic robo-programed phony she is. Did I really just say something that mean? You betcha.

Posted by: Smiling1 | October 4, 2008 9:28 PM

Palin's husband was a member of a society which advocated Alaska's secession from the United States of America.
She spoke in favor of their policies at their meetings. Doesn't that mean she was aiding and abetting this radical group?

It definitely makes her an associate of someone who advocated treason, Todd Palin.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 9:28 PM

The choice is simple.

McCain and Palin are delivering a message of hatred.

Obama and Biden are delivering a message of hope.

Nuf said.

Posted by: labman57 | October 4, 2008 9:27 PM

Please join Rich Lowry in masturbating in front of a picture of Sarah Palin just like John McCain does.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 4, 2008 9:27 PM

Who cares about Palin. She's a ambitious and not too sharp. Really and I'm not even an elitist. I come from--and live in--a town of 900!

She's all bluff and the GOP can throw all the money it wants into the fools who do their advertising. The bail out will not take the nation's mind off the deregulated GOP economy.

The reckless McCain is presiding over the death of the party of Lincoln. That is a tragedy of it's own.

The more pressing issue is the economy and the political health of this nation.

Posted by: protagoras | October 4, 2008 9:25 PM

Well that's just great, Ms. Palin. You had 72 million people listening to you 2 days ago and you FORGOT to mention Obama's "ties" to terrorism?

No, it's more accurate to say that you couldn't get away with that "bull****" in front of intelligent, informed people.

I just took out my checkbook to donate AGAIN to all Democrats running across this nation.

You will be a sour footnote in history, Ms. Palin, but you will always be remembered by the Republican Party because you will be their biggest disgrace ( and all in 5 weeks! Gee, you ARE special).

Posted by: jgiardullo | October 4, 2008 9:25 PM

wes1155,

The *full* Times story is more damaging then a sound bite. It only confirms what I posted, there is a media double standard for Obama, as is clear from this portion of the Times story:

Steve Chapman, a columnist for The Chicago Tribune, defended Mr. Obama’s relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., his longtime pastor, whose black liberation theology and “God damn America” sermon became notorious last spring. But he denounced Mr. Obama for associating with Mr. Ayers, whom he said the University of Illinois should never have hired.

“I don’t think there’s a statute of limitations on terrorist bombings,” Mr. Chapman said in an interview, speaking not of the law but of political and moral implications.

“If you’re in public life, you ought to say, ‘I don’t want to be associated with this guy,’ ” Mr. Chapman said. “If John McCain had a long association with a guy who’d bombed abortion clinics, I don’t think people would say, ‘That’s ancient history.’ ”

Posted by: APalinFan | October 4, 2008 9:25 PM

This woman is as despicable and as dangerous as her old, angry, spiteful, irrational running mate. She just parrots libelous soundbyte lies that have been fed to her by Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis.

What a laugh to make the comment, "according to the New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, " This, after her handlers have branded the Times as a mouthpiece for the Obama campaign.

John McCain must not be allowed to use the Bush smear campaign that defeated him in the 2000 primary. He has gone out and hired the whole gang. He is apparently willing to tell any lie in order to get elected. Watch him in the video- telling lies about Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk&NR=1

Not this time. Don't let it happen again.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 9:22 PM

OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:00 PM

Thanks for the great informative post.

Posted by: smartchick1 | October 4, 2008 9:22 PM

William Ayers and the weatherman were pussy cats compared to the national guard who gunned down innocent students in Kent State in 1968 just for protesting against the Vietnam war. The Tiger Force 101 in Vietnam slaughtered hundreds of innocent civilians and McMoron was bombing innocent civilians to bits in Vietnam before he was captured and imprisoned - he survived when 58,000 others didn't.

It seems to me that some in the republican side want to over state what the weathemen actually did because it wasn't really that much in the scheme of things.

They were after all protesting the most deadly war in the second half of the 20th century which ended up costing 3 million Vietnamese lives and was always a lie.

And we need to count the 3 million Cambodians murdered after the US installed Pol Pot.

Palin again shows her ignorance because Rummy's good mate was Saddam Hussein, as he was to James Baker.

And they feted the murdering thug Mushareff for all those years, they have now murdered over 1 million Iraqis (which Obama voted against), hundreds of thousands of Afghans, millions are starving in both countries and the media and McMoron want to focus on the really dopey behaviour of the weathermen from 40 years ago.

Palin obviously knows not what she is on about.

And republicans on this board, you need to learn your history instead of whining about not too much at all. One person died accidently at the hands of the weathermen, 3 million Vietnamese died at the hands of the likes of McMoron.

Posted by: shepherdmarilyn | October 4, 2008 9:21 PM

The problem with the McCain campaign is that they have no positive, productive message of their own, no specific policies for improving the economy that differ from those of GWB, no solutions for improving America's standing among foreign nations, no significant platform whatsoever. He is a one-trick pony pushing his vague concept of being a "reformer" and a "maverick".

As a result, he has relied on negative attack ads and speeches from the get-go. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and McCain is a desperate man whose blind ambitions have clouded any sense of judgement, fairplay, and code of ethics. (Palin, on the other hand, never had a code of ethics--only a holier-than-thou sense of morality.)

McCain and Palin have regressed from "gutter politics" to "sewer politics".

Posted by: labman57 | October 4, 2008 9:21 PM

Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which since the 1970s has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.

And while McCain’s motto — as seen in a new TV ad — is ‘Country First,’ the AIP’s motto is the exact opposite — ‘Alaska First — Alaska Always.’

Here is video of Sarah Palin addressing the pro-secessionist Alaskan Independence Party at their convention:


UPDATE: Here’s what the founder of the Alaska Independence Party said:

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

And Sarah Palin signed up.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 9:19 PM

I just pray that America will come to its senses and repudiate in a big way the politics of personal destruction. For the life of me I cannot understand how anyone making under $250,000 per year could support a Republican this year.

Posted by: EarlC | October 4, 2008 9:18 PM

Re/Lax Realtors

For Sale
1.5 million acres of Coastal Paradise in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge! It is an oil drillers dream property!

Call for appointment: Sarah Palin 703-418-2008

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:16 PM

Some of us are old enough to remember the Weather Underground and the fact is that it is a total distortion to call those individuals "terrorists" in the contemporary sense of the word. I found the actions of these violent radicals unacceptable at the time and certainly still do, but to suggest that they were in the same league or of the same nature as today's Al Qaeda or similar terror groups is simply not historically accurate. Domestic radicals of the 1960s were trying to change the course of government in this country, not murder hundreds or thousands of innocent people, children included, in the service of distorted religious beliefs. Palin doesn't know what she's talking about. To suggest that Obama is in league with terrorists is an outrage. He most certainly is not. Palin is ignorant and her comments reflect both that and her exceptionally poor judgment.

Posted by: Bob22003 | October 4, 2008 9:14 PM

SARAH PALIN DESCRIPTION:

PALINDROME (/pal-in-drohm/n.) = Thing or person that when put forward, makes things go backward

GIMMICK (gim-ik) 1) an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, especially one designed to attract attention or increase appeal; 2) a concealed, usually devious aspect or feature of something as a plan or deal

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:14 PM

We elected a president who sees nothing wrong with torture, domestic spying, lying to Congress and the American people, and continuing an immoral occupation.

Yea, I guess we should get upset that Obama had a casual association with someone on a charity board.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | October 4, 2008 9:14 PM

I just called my international student computer guru to look at the debate. We froze Palin in about six or seven places throughtout the debate, comparing both ears. In some almost direct side views of her right ear, it does appear that it is her ear and not an electronic listening device. I think that if Biden had seen such a device since it was on the side of her face that Biden would see, I think that we would know it by now. I think this may be barking up the wrong tree.

I will say that, at times, Palin seems to be concentrating on her notes.

Posted by: EarlC | October 4, 2008 9:13 PM

"A REAL AMERICAN". I am watching a segment on the History Channel right now, on the birth of the KKK and guess what phrase they used to recruit members? You guessed it. Sound at all familiar?

Posted by: smartchick1 | October 4, 2008 9:12 PM

Power Dress Suit Dress……..$300
Dolce Gabanna Glassses…….$250
Blonde Highlights……………$75

Having to explain supporting Effectiveness of “Abstinence-Only Education, after your 17 year old daughter gets pregnant

PRICELESS!!

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:11 PM

Is this guy Ayers in prison or what???

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 9:10 PM

you show up at a fundraising tea he happens to host, you get named to the same board for a while, and he has the nerve to live in your neighborhood. I'm surprised Palin didn't claim that Ayers is Obama's BFF.

It's the same people who can call a vote for age appropriate K-12 sex ed a vote to teach sex in kindergarten before reading that can take those facts and claim that Obama consorts with terrorists.

If they can lie like that to win, imagine what they will be willing to do if given real power. Oh, wait a minute, we already know that Palin wants to rewrite (or who knows, maybe just ignore) the Constitution, and make the VP more powerful in the legislative branch

they are in the gutter, but it seems they are the only one's coming away with the stench this time. the folks aren't buying it any more than her phony winks and sixpack.

I'm betting she was trying to mispronounce nuclear for effect, only she slipped up and pronounced it correctly once. that doesn't happen unless you usually say it right. can you imagine Bush suddenly pronouncing it correctly? not a chance.

Palin is a fraud, and now we know she's on board with the willingness to lie through her teeth and take the low road with McCain

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 4, 2008 9:10 PM

Hmm...what's that smell in the air? Could be desperation on the part of the McCain campaign.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | October 4, 2008 9:10 PM

Despite her extrapolation from superficial acquaintance with major media, "both a Washington Post article in April and today's New York Times piece revealed Obama and Ayers to have had only a casual association...."

Sarah Palin is a more credible critic when she talks of and identifies herself with hockey moms and beer drinkers. But what of those parents who cannot afford today's fuel to drive their young athletes to practice and games, cannot afford the equipment required, cannot take time off from second jobs, jobs vital to put food on the kitchen table, let alone a beer or so as solace for a hard life that offers only a bleak future?

Posted by: FirstMouse1 | October 4, 2008 9:10 PM

"This is not a man who sees America as you and I do -- as the greatest force for good in the world."

Sounds like a good description of Todd Palin, doesn't it? You don't join a seccessionist political party because you think th US is the greatest force for good in the world.

Posted by: exco | October 4, 2008 9:09 PM

I guess someone finally included the name of the newspaper on the excerpt that they emailed her to read in the car. Do you suppose they even gave her the whole article, or just the parts she might draw the wrong conclusion from?

Posted by: DCexpatinDurham | October 4, 2008 9:09 PM

Sarah Palin announced in the debates John McCain’s disastrous health care plan that allows a $5000 tax credit for Americans to purchase health care. Joe Biden’s brilliant response, reminding people that in order to offset the credit McCain’s plan would tax American’s health insurance premiums for the first time in American history. The ULTIMATE bridge to nowhere

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:09 PM

ATTENTION SARAH PALIN:

JESUS CHRIST WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER

PONTIAS PILATE WAS A GOVERNOR
(he is best known as the man and governor who is said to have presided over the trial of Jesus and ordered his crucifixion)

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:06 PM

APalinFan,

Umm...yeah. Except for the fact that whoever read the story and wrote the lines for her purposefully twisted the conclusion. You might want to read it yourself as well as the Times' follow up after her remarks. Not that I expect actually reading it will dissuade anyone who listens to a sound bite and draws a conclusion from it.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 9:03 PM

It's pretty evident that the McCain/Palin ticket is scraping the bottom of the barrel of ways to try to win the election
*******

are you high?

not running in circles of racists and terrorists is normally a pre-requisite for presidential candidates. no?

they should have taken the advice ofhillary clinton's top strategist and been hammering away on this (especially wright) weeks ago.

what kind of light does this shed on obama's judgement?

Posted by: dummypants | October 4, 2008 9:00 PM

Sarah Palin may lie, but numbers don't. Her record speaks for itself:

2007: the year in which Sarah Palin first obtained a passport

312: the number of nights during her first 19 months in office that Palin charged taxpayers a "per diem" totaling $16,951 for staying in her own home -- an allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business

$500 to $1,200: the fee that Wasilla charged rape victims to pay for post-sexual assault medical exams, after the city cut funds during Palin's tenure that had previously covered the exams

$150: the cash payment offered by the Palin administration to hunters who turn in legs of freshly killed wolves gunned down from airplanes

3: the number of times during her first few weeks as mayor that Palin inquired with the Wasilla librarian about banning books

3: the number of months after the censorship discussion that Palin fired the librarian

100: the approximate number of Wasilla residents who rallied to support the librarian, prompting Palin to withdraw her termination letter

0: the number of foreign heads of state Palin has met

0: the number of commands Palin has issued as head of the Alaska National Guard

2: the number of times in Palin's ABC News interview that she said the word "nucular"

0: Wasilla's long-term debt when Palin took office in 1996

$18.6 million: the long-term debt Palin racked up by the time she left office in 2002, amounting to about $3,000 per resident

$50,000: the amount of city funds Palin used without authorization to redecorate the Wasilla mayor's office, including adding flocked, red wallpaper that made it look "like a bordello," according to a former Wasilla City Council member

33: the percentage by which Palin increased the budget of Wasilla during her tenure, despite billing herself as a fiscal conservative and champion of smaller government

25: the percentage by which Palin raised the local sales tax in Wasilla to pay for a sports center, despite claims that she cut taxes

$27 million: the total amount of federal earmarks Palin secured for Wasilla's town of 6,700 people while she was mayor, thanks to the help of a Washington lobbyist with ties to indicted Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) and convicted felon Jack Abramoff

3: the number of times John McCain specifically criticized earmarks requested by Sarah Palin when she was mayor of Wasilla, citing them as examples of wasteful spending

$453 million: the total amount of earmarks Palin has asked U.S. taxpayers to fund for Alaska projects over the past two years, despite McCain's insistence that she hasn't sought earmarks or special-interest spending from Congress

$506.34: the amount of federal earmarks Alaska residents will receive per capita in 2008, the highest level of any state

$223 million: the earmark secured for the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere" that Palin initially supported before opposing

$223 million: the amount of money designated for the "Bridge to Nowhere" that Palin ultimately used for other projects, rather than returning it to the federal government

20: the percentage of domestic energy that Palin claims Alaska produces

3.5: the actual percentage share of domestic energy Alaska produces

0: the number of people in America who know more about energy than Sarah Palin, according to John McCain

$600,000: the loss at which Palin sold the governor's jet after making a show of placing it on eBay. It was eventually sold to a Palin campaign contributor who paid $2.1 million (more than 20% less than the original $2.7 million purchase price)

1: the number of private tanning beds Palin installed in the governor's mansion after taking office

1.5: the approximate number of hours Palin spent on a refueling layover in Ireland, which the McCain campaign cited as part of her foreign policy experience

0: the actual amount of time Palin spent in Iraq during a 2007 visit to the region, despite the McCain campaign's claim she had visited the Iraq battle zone. She never made it beyond the Khabari Alawazem Crossing in Kuwait.

2006: the year in which Palin declared she favors abstinence-only education and that "the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support"

2008: the year in which Palin's 17-year-old daughter was impregnated by a self-described "f***ing redneck," who wrote on his MySpace page "I don't want kids" and "ya f*** with me I'll kick a**"

9: the number of U.S. Geological Survey studies concluding that the habitat of Alaska's polar bears is threatened by global warming, which Palin discounted as "insufficent evidence" when she sued the Bush administration to overturn its decision to list polar bears under the Endangered Species Act

5: the number of colleges Palin attended over six years before graduating in 1987 from the University of Idaho with a major in journalism

500: the number of Fortune 500 companies Sarah Palin is not qualified to run, according to McCain adviser Carly Fiorina

50: the number of days after Palin announced she "will fully cooperate" with an ethics investigation into the "Troopergate" scandal that the McCain campaign announced she was "unlikely to cooperate" because it had been "hijacked" by Obama operatives. The probe was unanimously authorized by a bipartisan panel of eight Alaska Republicans and four Democrats.

28: the number of days prior to accepting the vice presidential offer that Palin said she couldn't entertain the idea "until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day"

15: the number of minutes McCain and Palin spent together during their only meeting prior to the interview in which McCain offered her the vice presidential slot

Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 4, 2008 9:00 PM

Congratulations to the New York Times. I'm surprised but pleased to see they ran this story, which until now only FOX had paid much attention to. Who can blame Palin for running with the story? It doesn't matter that the bombings happened years ago. They happened. Obama knew this and still associated with Ayers. If Palin had similar associations with someone guilty of KKK bombings in the 1970s, I wouldn't expect the Democrats or the press to look the other way. But that seems to be what Obama is asking. And, until now, most of the press has largely obliged.

Posted by: APalinFan | October 4, 2008 8:59 PM

If we have to rely on 72 year old man to run our country and present us in the world, we are screwed.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 8:58 PM

I just went back to freeze the frames on Sarah Palin's right ear. There is something flesh colored with a larger knob on the end that hangs just in front of her ear. I would estimate that it is about 3/4 inch long. I do not see a wire going into the ear. I do not know what to make of it. I do know that certain people throughout the years have used devices to be fed information about people that they are interviewing in an audience to prove how they know things about that person. Every instance where this is proved has been a scandal for the person involved.

To another matter, Sarah Palin told Charles Gibson that she was ready to tell everything about the matter in Alaska. It is interesting that she is now refusing to testify as well as her husband. So much for transparency in government. People should understand that something like this has everything to do with transparency. Palin is stonewalling. Those of us that remember the Nixon years know about stonewalling.

Posted by: EarlC | October 4, 2008 8:57 PM

Yup,

The only ones more ignorant and foolish than the Obamamaniacs are the Palinistas and McCainiacs. What a minute...I don't think there are any of the latter, even McCain's own party doesn't care for him.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 8:57 PM

John McCain must not be allowed to use the Bush smear campaign that defeated him in the 2000 primary. He has gone out and hired the whole gang. He is apparently willing to tell any lie in order to get elected. Watch him in the video- telling lies about Iraq.
********

one problem with that parallel:

the charges against bush were 100% false (he had an illegitimate black child), while the charges against Obama are true (associations with rev. wright and ayers)

sadly, jeremiah wright isnt a figment of some republican strategists imignation.

Posted by: dummypants | October 4, 2008 8:55 PM

It's pretty evident that the McCain/Palin ticket is scraping the bottom of the barrel of ways to try to win the election. People don't take a babbling idiot like Palin seriously, especially when she's trying character assasination. One thing they have been consistent with--diverting attention from the fact that they never talk about REAL issues that they SHOULD be talking about by creating "news" in their back rooms and telling lies. That's why McCain has lost so many potential votes--that and his choice of a ding-dong for a running mate.

Posted by: tsutsu13 | October 4, 2008 8:54 PM

Palin is starting to believe her own hype. I predict a clash of egos between her and McCain soon. That said, I find it beyond offensive for any Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate to accuse the other candidate of "palling around with terrorists". That's the kind of ugly lies you expect to see from the 527 pacs, but never from the mouth of a candidate themselves. You do realize that she is speaking that way of one of our current U.S. Senators, who also happens to be a candidate for the Presidency? What she just did was unpatriotic and beneath the dignity of this country and the office for which she's running. Again, I want to point out... Palin just accused a sitting United States Senator of palling around with terrorists.

Posted by: DogBitez | October 4, 2008 8:53 PM

The biggest terrorists are George W Bush, Dick Chenney, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby and they all urged us to vote for McCain and Palin. Hmm, sure, when pigs with lipstick fly!!!! Palin should maybe say something about her and McCain's ties to these crooks.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 8:52 PM

To ObamaManiacs,

You talk about facts!!!!!!!!!!!

You folks need to realize how the MSM have been helping to fool the average americans for a very long time to help the CHOSEN ONE to be elected in the election.

It is so shame that they do not want to point the Obama-Biden lies to the public.

They have been telling lie after lie so long. It is kind of difficult to keep with them anymore.

Just to be a contemporaneous examples...............

Just follow the list what your accomplished politician like Joe Biden did during the debates


1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES : Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

After saying so many lies, still the MSM and the clown think that Joe Biden won the debate.

These foolish and ignorant Obamamaniacs and the MSM do not want to point them out to the public.

If it is for McCain, wow wow............. you would have seen them jumping around in the MSM and the TV networks saying that how dishonest the McCain campaign is?

Go McCain-Palin in Nov-08 in landslide.

Posted by: CuriousJhum | October 4, 2008 8:51 PM

It's time for the gloves to come off from nice guys -Biden and Obama...Palin needs to be put on notice and attacked for the sweeping generalities she makes and lack of knowledge of anything of depth..As far as McCain goes...he's sadly out of touch with reality.

Posted by: HickoryNan | October 4, 2008 8:50 PM

dcsportsfan1,

You forgot to mention, which candidate actively sought endorsements from from TRUE hate mongers in the name of Jesus, Hagee and Dodson.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 8:50 PM

Obama has always been hanging out with rght people. He learned all bad and all good tricks. That is why he made it to the same place as John McCain in a short time while John McCain has been trying to do the same thing for the last 30 years. Regarding Palin; anybody that visited outside Alaska just one time, can be some big shot in Alaska, but in continential USA, she is just a newcomer lost in asphalt and politics. She is learning the bad things first and that is also in a wrong and dangerous way.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 8:47 PM

If we, the American people, believe the lies and character assassination attempts the Republican Party is spreading AGAIN.....we will deserve four more years of the incompetent government we have gotten the past eight years.

Posted by: rkmfcca | October 4, 2008 8:46 PM

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his political ambitions. Barack is calculated and methodical about hiding his true convictions and intentions, and uses deception to get elected.

The time is now!
For Americans to remember Barack Hussein Obama’s intimate 20 year relationship with the Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright, who blessed Barack and Michelle marriage and baptized both their daughters. AND, to remember the hideous videos of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation which included the Obamas, damning America with bombastic joy, after the Muslim’s criminal attack on America on 9/11.

The time is now!
For Americans to remember how Barack's Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright used his tax-exempt church to exercise a radical political agenda, and how he refers to Israel, as well as America, as a "racist" State. Barack's religious leader, Jeremiah Wright believes that the true 'Chosen People' are the blacks; and that black values are superior to middle-class American values.
 Indeed Barack's Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright is a black supremacist.

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama wants to be president to implement Jeremiah Wright’s dream of a black supremacist society in America.

The time is now!
For Americans of all political parties to come together to preserve the future of the country we love and have always been proud of, by voting for a True American Patriot and War Hero who risked his life for our country:
John McCain for President of the United States of America.

Country First!
Americans for John McCain/Sarah Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 4, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

the time is now to remember that we are a country fighting two wars, with a economy in free fall and massive debt. the time is now to focus on the issues.

but hey, as george costanza would say, "you wanna get nuts, lets get nuts".

who was involved in the massive s&l scandal of the late '80's? mccains pal charles keating. he didn't provide favors for him 40 years after he was indicted, mccain was involved right then and there.

which of the four candidates is currently under investigation for obstruction justice?

which candidate cheated on his first wife?

which candidate's reverend promotes witchcraft.

which candidates spouse belongs to a group which supports seceeding from the us?


Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | October 4, 2008 8:41 PM

Hey HemiHead66: Those names don't sound like terrorist names. Did Obama blow up California too - 2 Billion in damages?

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 4, 2008 7:50 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What are you talking about. Maybe you can show me what your replying to because I don't get it.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 4, 2008 8:40 PM

When you think about it, it is really scary how people can read a news article and totally miss the point and the context. McCain and Palin are proving every day how dangerous they can be as chief executors of the most powereful nation on the planet. Can you imagine them drawing similar inferences and conclusions of other world leaders. Scary!

Posted by: EarlC | October 4, 2008 8:40 PM

Sarah Palin had her hair down for a reason to hide a wire. Here is proof of it on a CNN picture twice, normal and blowed up:
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/what-does-gov-palin-have-in-her-right-ear/

Posted by: grdn_nell | October 4, 2008 8:32 PM

mpg515,

Another troll uninformed spreading smears. For your information Rev. Wright served his country in the Marines for six years, for your information Liberation theology is not racist and and you calling him a terrorist is a flat out lie.

You sow what you reap and those who sow hate will reap it.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 8:32 PM

The truth is Obama does pal around with domestic terrorist and racist 'clergy'. It is frightening to think this fraud from Chicago might be elected president by a dim witted voters.

Posted by: mpg515 | October 4, 2008 8:28 PM

This woman is as despicable and as dangerous as her old, angry, spiteful, irrational running mate. She just parrots libelous soundbyte lies that have been fed to her by Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis.

What a laugh to make the comment, "according to the New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, " This, after her handlers have branded the Times as a mouthpiece for the Obama campaign.

John McCain must not be allowed to use the Bush smear campaign that defeated him in the 2000 primary. He has gone out and hired the whole gang. He is apparently willing to tell any lie in order to get elected. Watch him in the video- telling lies about Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk&NR=1

Not this time. Don't let it happen again.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 8:28 PM

Ok Palin, you want to play dirty, eh? Alright, bring it on. What about your dirty husband Todd wanting Alaska to secede from the Union? A traitor I would say. Lets put up all those ugly pictures of those dead wolves you kill after running them down by plane. Very unsportsmanlike. Or the money to cheated Alaska while staying at your home. Or you getting blessed by a person who believes in witchcraft. Or you abusing your power by sending Todd who has no business in Alaska business, to try and get a decent administrator fired because he did not bend to your will. And, there is many more. You just better remember, if you want to dish it out you better be able to take it, because it will come back to bite your little redneck arse.

Posted by: sandnsmith | October 4, 2008 8:28 PM

librairie,

Have you ever been on a nonprofit Board? You know, it isn't just Ayers and Obama in a room together, there are many other people there. You seem to think it was some private party. I am currently had have served on several nonprofit Boards and although I am limited to my direct experience, they were hardly parties or much time to do anything other than the work at hand.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 8:27 PM


"She was never a member."

Posted by: JakeD

JakeD

Oh yes she was. The secretary-treasurer of the party stated the fact, and then after the McCain campaign got hold of her, all of sudden, issued a statement that "she had made a mistake.

Here's the Vice President of the Alaska Independence Party, Dexter Clark, telling it like it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Re0vmbtHK8

Sarah Palin is not only a liar, but she is totally ignorant of any national or international issue involving our country.

Country First? What an insane statement. Only Karl Rove or his protege Steve Schmidt could have thought up something so grotesque.

Not this time.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 8:23 PM

Manolete,

Everyone on these blogs knows you are an RNC/Palin-McCain troll who cuts and pastes from provided nonsense. Why don't you post it on the National Review blogs instead.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 8:23 PM

I live in Reston, Virginia and the Prison Fellowship is here. As many probably know, a Watergate Conspirator Chuck Colson founded it. When Watergate happened, I was about 8--the same age as Senator Obama when the Weather Underground was active. I have volunteered for the prison fellowship--I think it is a good idea. I also believe that people can change--so I figure Chuck Colson paid for his crime and did something positive with his life. However, using YOUR STANDARDS and the MCCAIN CAMPAIGN standards, I AM A WATERGATE CO-CONSPIRATOR--FOOLISHNESS OBVIOUSLY HAS RETURNED!

Posted by: Prosperity2008 | October 4, 2008 8:22 PM

We will all know in about a month, if "Barry" wins-Mostly due to a Sorry choice of a Contender! An Aged RINO? C'mon!

Whether God has indeed Damned the KKK of A! :-(

We COULD have had Mitt Romney!

God, knows, we are bound to pay one way or another for our Sinful Rejection of such a great Choice!

Never has an Election been so important, and Never have I despised my Choices so much!

Two Congressmen with lousy Veeps! From a congress with an 11% Approval Rating!

Jesus Wept!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 4, 2008 8:21 PM

seemstone:

She was never a member.

Posted by: JakeD

-------------------------------

But JakeD,

Her husband was. So using her own test in true Joe McCarthy fashion, she is guilty by association.

How much more closely associated can one be than with the person she sleeps with? So if you believe it is wrong to make a connection of her to the AIP and an AIP member, her husband, how can you justify someone claiming Obama and Ayers were "pals" just because they served on two nonprofit Boards, know some of the same people and live in the same neighborhood? Seems kind of hypocritical don't you think?

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 8:18 PM

Here we go again McCain&the bulldog cannot win on issues.So here they comeback repeating there same old gutter type trash.This moron from sticksville USA.Has the nerve to talk about well educated imformed people and tell lies about her own life must think the people of this country are deaf dumb and blind.We will not sit back and watch two flip flopping dummies run this country a third time.And you won't steal it this time .You and Mccain bring terror to mind when i think that any body in their proper mind would vote for them.Wake up america this is the same trash with a new wrapper.

Posted by: VRH32 | October 4, 2008 8:16 PM

It is a fact and can be checked that Mr. Ayers was at every board meeting that Mr. Obama was. This can easily be checked by looking at the minutes from all the board meetings. I would not call this a "casual" acquaintance. When Mr. Obama says he only met Mr. Ayers a couple of times, this is a total fabrication. The media continues to perpetuate the story from the Obama group that these guys did not know each other. They were at all of the boards meetings at the same time. This is what is in the minutes of all the minutes. Please do proper fact checking.

Posted by: librairie | October 4, 2008 8:15 PM

Palin sounds like Elle Mae Clampett. gosh darn Jethro.

Posted by: hermantheartdog | October 4, 2008 8:15 PM

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his political ambitions. Barack is calculated and methodical about hiding his true convictions and intentions, and uses deception to get elected.

The time is now!
For Americans to remember Barack Hussein Obama’s intimate 20 year relationship with the Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright, who blessed Barack and Michelle marriage and baptized both their daughters. AND, to remember the hideous videos of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation which included the Obamas, damning America with bombastic joy, after the Muslim’s criminal attack on America on 9/11.

The time is now!
For Americans to remember how Barack's Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright used his tax-exempt church to exercise a radical political agenda, and how he refers to Israel, as well as America, as a "racist" State. Barack's religious leader, Jeremiah Wright believes that the true 'Chosen People' are the blacks; and that black values are superior to middle-class American values.
 Indeed Barack's Priest of Hate, Jeremiah Wright is a black supremacist.

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama wants to be president to implement Jeremiah Wright’s dream of a black supremacist society in America.

The time is now!
For Americans of all political parties to come together to preserve the future of the country we love and have always been proud of, by voting for a True American Patriot and War Hero who risked his life for our country:
John McCain for President of the United States of America.

Country First!
Americans for John McCain/Sarah Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 4, 2008 8:14 PM

John McCain is a compulsive gambler.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 8:14 PM

"So if Obama has nothing to hide with all of his questionable associations, why doesn't the MSM really dig in and look into his past? I mean if there's nothing there, why fear a real vetting?"


Obama hasn't been vetted these last 20 months, since he announced his WH run in January 2007 ?

Please.

McCain isn't going to be any more successful with this line of attack than Clinton was.

And it isn't a vetting you want, it's a lynching, in the press.

Posted by: mathas | October 4, 2008 8:13 PM

G gordan liddy hero or convicted criminal served hard time

Oliver north hero or convicted crimal, but like scooter libby get out of jail free card.

Cheney outed a C.I.A. agent, abused power

alberto gonzolas made G.W. dui evaporate into thin air before 2000 election

Donald Rumsfield sold the WMD's to Saddam

Brownie you are doing a hack of a job

John McCain voted against raising the minimum wage 19 times

Voted against leahy amendment 3292 war profiteering, and fruad

Opposed the Jim Webb G.I. Bill

Want to privatize social security like

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 8:12 PM

Heh heh heh I don't think it's going to work.

McCain is losing and desperate, and so he's making desperate moves. He's already seen as impulsive and jumpy under fire, this till just make it worse.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | October 4, 2008 8:09 PM

ANYONE REMEMBER KENT STATE? Remember CSN&Y's 'Four people dead in Ohio'? Most in the SDS lacked the balls to join the Weathermen and they were screwed up in many ways, but let us be truthful and tell our kids and grandkids that the Weathermen
in a weird way did contribute to the end of that war.
The Weathermen did horrible things, but not as horrible as the Vietnam war. If we had the draft today, I bet we would have
had Weathermen today also.

Posted by: goldhatresearch | October 4, 2008 8:08 PM

John McCain's campaign is dying. If you listen very closely, you hear the earliest traces of its death rattle. He is doomed.

Posted by: euroguy | October 4, 2008 8:08 PM

Sarah Palin addressing her husband's break away group- the Alaska Independence Party- and wishing them "Good Luck."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

No wonder she gave the name of the Civil War General McClellan instead of the guy in Afghanistan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-O3-FpEYpM

Stop the charade. This woman is a bad and dangerous joke on the American public.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 8:06 PM

Sold her soul to Satan.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 4, 2008 8:06 PM

oh my God, she can read!!!!

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 8:05 PM

Has Palin sold her soul to Satan or is she just that dumb?

Posted by: ottothewise | October 4, 2008 8:05 PM

He's black. He has a middle eastern name. Oh no.

But he's smart and actually speaks as though he knows what to do.

What's a voter to do?

THINK.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 4, 2008 8:05 PM


here's the answer to the riddle-- McCain has Gordon Liddy in his past regarding Watergate, but Palin has Gordon Liddy in her immediate present circle in regards to drilling in Alaska


here's the article

Group hires Liddy of Watergate fame to promote Alaska petroleum drilling
http://juneauempire.com/stories/042008/sta_270391952.shtml

"ANCHORAGE - The lobbying group that uses state of Alaska money to push for petroleum drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge has hired Watergate conspirator and talk radio host G. Gordon Liddy to broadcast live from Alaska.

Arctic Power spokesman Adrian Herrera said Liddy was hired to broadcast from Alaska for five days in mid-July. His listeners are mostly blue collar and middle-aged, Herrera said."

seems like there's some vested interest in this. Palin's husband is also with BP-- so how much money goes around and into the back pocket when Palin is chanting "Drill, baby, drill" as she corrected Biden.


and does Biden have any personal interests? Seems like there's a Halliburton going on here.

Posted by: ardeladimwit | October 4, 2008 7:58 PM

The good thing is; McCain and Palin have to lie in order to bash Obama and Obama and Biden have to tell the truth to bash McCain and Palin. I would rather fight the lies than the truth.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 7:56 PM

This lady is first degree klutz. She may be able to despatch a large helpless moose off this earth with blast from a gun but if she foolishly assumes she can remove an opponent such as Obama with a thrust to the jugular her advisers should recommend she take some fencing lessons, and learn how to handle a rapier before trying. The other day to safe her life she could not name a newspaper she professes to read and now she pops out "...... I was reading my copy of the NY Times ..." Who doe she think she is kidding? Oh dear lord, help us. After eight years of posturing six pack folksy Texan twaddle, please, no more ! Is there one sane person who will vote Republican ?

Posted by: elizabeth6 | October 4, 2008 7:54 PM

This woman is a shameless liar. Obama was all of 8 years old when Ayers was doing his radical thing and wasn't even in the same part of the world. They aren't friends and never have been. The fact is, John McCain had closer ties to Saddam Hussein than Obama had to Bill Ayers.

Posted by: eco-pharm | October 4, 2008 7:54 PM


here's the answer to the riddle-- McCain has Gordon Liddy in his past regarding Watergate, but Palin has Gordon Liddy in her immediate present circle in regards to drilling in Alaska


here's the article

Group hires Liddy of Watergate fame to promote Alaska petroleum drilling
http://juneauempire.com/stories/042008/sta_270391952.shtml

"ANCHORAGE - The lobbying group that uses state of Alaska money to push for petroleum drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge has hired Watergate conspirator and talk radio host G. Gordon Liddy to broadcast live from Alaska.

Arctic Power spokesman Adrian Herrera said Liddy was hired to broadcast from Alaska for five days in mid-July. His listeners are mostly blue collar and middle-aged, Herrera said."

seems like there's some vested interest in this. Palin's husband is also with BP-- so how much money goes around and into the back pocket when Palin is chanting "Drill, baby, drill" as she corrected Biden.


and does Biden have any personal interests? Seems like there's a Halliburton going on here.

Posted by: ardeladimwit | October 4, 2008 7:54 PM

Hey HemiHead66: Those names don't sound like terrorist names. Did Obama blow up California too - 2 Billion in damages?

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 4, 2008 7:50 PM

Palin's lies today, about Obama "palling around with terrorists" come as e-mails circulate on the Internet with suggestions that the Democratic candidate is secretly a radical, foreign-born Muslim with designs against the U.S. — even though Obama is a native of Hawaii, a Christian and has no connections to Muslim extremists.
"Governor Palin's comments, while offensive, are not surprising, given the McCain campaign's statement this morning that they would be launching Swiftboat-like attacks in hopes of deflecting attention from the nation's economic ills," said Obama-Biden spokesman Hari Sevugan in a statement.

"In fact, the very newspaper story Governor Palin cited in hurling her shameless attack made clear that Senator Obama is not close to Bill Ayers, much less 'pals,' and that Obama has strongly condemned the despicable acts Ayers committed 40 years ago, when Obama was eight years old.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 4, 2008 7:50 PM

I imagine most people can be linked in some way to a criminal. My 4th cousin was involved in a mass murder. Cindy McCain's dad was a close associate with Kemper Marley, the main suspect in the bombing death of reporter Don Bolles in 1976 see .

I find it amusing that Palin is spouting off about this topic while the McCain/Palin campaign is doing everything it can to stop the Troopergate investigation in Alaska.

Posted by: homer4 | October 4, 2008 7:49 PM

seemstone:

She was never a member.

Posted by: JakeD | October 4, 2008 7:49 PM

ALL RIGHT, LETS GET OVER WITH IT.

"PALIN FOR PRESIDENT" HOW THAT SOUND??? THAT IS ALL WE HEAR LATELY. PMS MUST BE NEXT MONTH.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 7:49 PM

McCain is going nuts because of Palin.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 7:46 PM

John McCain, I thought you were a rational guy with somewhat centrist ideologies. You too resort to lies to win an election. Shame on you. That Sarah Palin you chose to be your running mate is a drag on you. Sorry, I guess you already lost the election. Please don't lower your dignity by talking such things as Sarah Palin's recent blabbering.

Posted by: sampath29 | October 4, 2008 7:46 PM

Sarah Palin is quite frightening.

I got chills when I watched her stare into the camera and gush homey phrases like 'darn right' while her eyes revealed a patronizing, deceitful, open contempt for honesty and fact.

Using that hideous 'I'm just a chummy yokel' persona to try to engender support from all those who'll fall for it is simply scary -- a profoundly cynical and obvious disdain for the electorate and people in general.

Bush proved that this method often works -- he abandoned his New England roots and adopted a hokey 'I'm just a simple, plain-spoken Texan' and, with the help of a powerful, wealthy PR organization (the Republican Party), managed to hone this false image with thespian-like adroitness and cheer leader-like enthusiasm. Lots of people have fallen for it, obviously.

I think we all must hope that this Bush-Cheney-Rove school of win-at-all-cost deception will be seen for what it is and quickly die.

These rovian types that brought such disgusting, unethical behavior to become the modus operandi of modern political warfare have proven they will use this same behavior to govern our country. How I pray these despicable people will be seen for who they are by all.

But while this monster still stalks US politics, it will remain a socially devastating disease, and cast a long, darkly ominous shadow over this country and it's governance for decades to come.

This particular sheep's clothing is not all that hard to see through, unless one is mentally blind.

Posted by: saj_pratt | October 4, 2008 7:45 PM

If this guy Ayers (never heard of him) is such a bad guy, whu us he still in freedom like evrybody else working i public service. I didn't think terrorists can do that. Palin is full of, you know what!! If want to know something, that would be something about her. We know everything about McCain, Obama, Biden, but she is still mystery lady. What a bi.ch!!!

Posted by: BOBSTERII | October 4, 2008 7:45 PM

Those Muslim extremist blew up Wall Street and caused over 850 Trillion dollars in damage. That is the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 4, 2008 7:03 PM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You mean George Bush and Dick Cheney blew up Wall Street and caused over 850 Trillion dollars in damage. The worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil and our Government won't even let the public see the trials. Ya know, they spent more money impeaching Bill Clinton than they did investigating the 9,11 attacks. Here's George Bush saying he don't pay much attention to where Bin Laden is. He's not really concerned about him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRY_BOYeySc&feature=related

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 4, 2008 7:45 PM

LET'S REVIEW KEATING 5

Want The Truths Of Maverickity & Sarahcide:

www(dot)mccainslobbyists(dot)com

www(dot)mccainsource(dot)com

www(dot)therealmccain(dot)com/butler

www(dot)mudflats(dot)wordpress(dot)com

www(dot)plnewsforum(dot)com/index.php/forums/viewthread/39966

www(dot)phoenixnewtimes(dot)com/1989-11-29/news/mccain-the-most-reprehensible-of-the-keating-five/1

www(dot)rationalrevolution0(dot)tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s(dot)htm

www(dot)republicansexoffenders(dot)com

www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c


If MooseMaMa wants to sling mud as talking points, let's sliong it about a VP Candidate fighting to wash away a serious criminal investigation:

There They Go Again! Emergency Motion Filed With Supreme Court to Stop Troopergate Investigation. Updated*
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/there-they-go-again-emergency-motion-filed-with-supreme-court-to-stop-troopergate-investigation

BTW....WHERE'S MCMANIAC'S GIRLFRIEND LOBBYIST, VICKI ISEMAN? LET'S REVIEW KEATING 5

Posted by: wyattobamanation | October 4, 2008 7:44 PM

Is this woman on drugs? Where the heck do they come up with all this garbage, and who in their right mind believes it? I get more insulted by these two every day.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 4, 2008 7:43 PM

Check out Media Matters to see McCain's own link to G. Gordon Liddy. Sara Palin and the McCain campaign need to look into their own hearts before they start casting stones.
The link is: http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004?f=h_popular

Posted by: gregoryvgray | October 4, 2008 7:38 PM

I want to thank the Obama haters. Americans are very protective of Americans. Americans and the world are against hate. America will vote down the hate on November 4,2008. America will return to a position of world respect which is the basis of strength.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 4, 2008 7:37 PM

Palin sounds like she just discovered newspapers and wants to tell everyone all she learned reading them!! "See, I DO read newspapers, I do!"

Posted by: RB124 | October 4, 2008 7:37 PM

Now Palin reads? The Old Grey Lady no less (McCain & Co. hates The New York Times). Look, someone did a cut-and-paste job and spooned it to her to regurgitate like a cow on cue. Palin lacks the intellectual depth and curiosity to take that initiative.

Posted by: meldupree | October 4, 2008 7:36 PM

Yawn.

This is a clear act of desperation on the part of McCain.

The fact he is doing this shows he is still trying to rally his own base...with only 30 days to go.

Meanwhile millions of Americans are already voting (and Obama is up 7 points).

Posted by: MarcMyWords | October 4, 2008 7:36 PM

Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which since the 1970s has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.

And while McCain’s motto — as seen in a new TV ad — is ‘Country First,’ the AIP’s motto is the exact opposite — ‘Alaska First — Alaska Always.’

Here is video of Sarah Palin addressing the pro-secessionist Alaskan Independence Party at their convention:

UPDATE: Here’s what the founder of the Alaska Independence Party said:

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

And Sarah Palin signed up.

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 7:34 PM

This woman is as despicable and as dangerous as her old, angry, spiteful, irrational running mate. She just parrots libelous soundbyte lies that have been fed to her by Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis.

What a laugh to make the comment, "according to the New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, " This, after her handlers have branded the Times as a mouthpiece for the Obama campaign.

John McCain must not be allowed to use the Bush smear campaign that defeated him in the 2000 primary. He has gone out and hired the whole gang. He is apparently willing to tell any lie in order to get elected. Watch him in the video- telling lies about Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk&NR=1

Not this time. Don't let it happen again.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 7:33 PM

SENATOR MC CAIN and the HOUSE CAUSED A WORLD WIDE LOST OF $2 TRILLION DOLLARS IN STOCK MARKET VALUE ON MONDAY.

Posted by: FutureJumps | October 4, 2008 7:33 PM

Sarah Palin has a lot of nerve talking about Barack and Ayers. Maybe they haven't told her about McCain's association with Charlas Keatng and his involvement with the savings & Loan crisis in 1987.Very much like todays banking crisis. (THE KEATING 5)The goverment had to bail them out to.

Posted by: princess2 | October 4, 2008 7:33 PM

What seems an even more significant link than Ayers to Obama is the Alaskan Independence Party to Sarah Palin. Todd Palin is a confirmed member of this secessionist group for several years. Those in the AIP claim Sarah Palin was also.

See part 1 of video here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NK2sFJebGc

In these two parts of the video the leader talks about infiltrating the federal governement with people who support Alaskan secession.

If Obama or Biden had associations with a secessionist movement, they'd be called unpatriotic, traitors.

Posted by: MNobserver | October 4, 2008 7:29 PM

Why is it always the crazies from the "christian" right that are the biggest hate mongers? Don't they read that book they are so fond of or are they just too stupid understand it. All this ignorant woman and her desperate old running mate have are lies. Not one thing she lays claim to has proven to be true.She ledt Wasilla $28 million in debt with a pending lawsuit because she built a hockey rink on ground the city did not own. Cut property taxes but raised the sales tax. Todd "belonged" to a separtist party until she became mayor of her village. Her uneducated husband is involved in day/day business of Alaska, he even gets copied on state emails and correspondence. He is also deeply involved in troopergate records show he contacted the fired police commissioner over 25 times. Poor old McCain has sunk to saying & doing anything to get elected. He lost his mind in that pow camp he is so fond of bring up. Like it is some kind of qualification for him to be president. He graduated 844 out of a class of 899, if daddy & grandpa were not admirals his dumb ass would have never gotten in the academy. Left his crippled wife and kids for the rich princess who stole drugs from her charity to feed her own habit of four years and McCain claims he never knew. He has been a hard drinking rich party boy his whole life. Votes against veterns benifits . He is the poster boy for de-regulation with his buddy Phil Gtaham. His campain manager owns a company that lobbys for fannie/freddie. His entire staff is either from the Bush campains or is a ex-lobbiest.

Posted by: tmccbo | October 4, 2008 7:29 PM

Palin's comment is clever, in part because it is irrefutably true. Ayres is or was a terrorist. Obama is his pal. One can dispute how often they interact; Stanley Kurtz at National Review makes clear the connection was pretty close. But that's not the point: Palin said they are pals, not pals who talk every day. CNN is out hawking a false story that NR "debunked" any connection. Not true -- Kurtz is up on NR tonight and fighting back. The MSM (Post excluded) seem very unhappy about about this, especially coming from Palin. I bet they wish they still had the "dumb" stories or "Wasilla" stories, not karate chops on Obama's dubious past.

Posted by: denmark_97 | October 4, 2008 7:28 PM

American-citizen-
We adult Americans have more important things to think about than your fetish for lapel pens.
Obama will make sure our flag flies over a just nation. You guys wallow in hubris, and soil the flag in the eyes of the world with your corrupt ways.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 4, 2008 7:28 PM

"Bill Ayers, the unrepentant SDS bomber, rwe123

I've noticed that the paid Rethuglican trolls usually have numbers in their signatures. It's because they are being paid for their mud slinging by the GOP'

For your information, Mr rwe123, William Ayers conducted his anti Viet-Nam war protests when Senator Obama was eight years old.

No one was killed by their small explosive devices except for a statue and themselves.

When Senator Obama met him, William Ayers was, by then, a distinguished professor at The University of Illinois serving on the board of directors of a foundation set up to help poor people in need of housing and food.

Their association has been only on serving with philanthropic boards, and an occasional meeting in their neighborhood.

Senator Obama has always stated that he deplores the activities of the anti Viet-Nam war weathermen radicals. He is a good man- and you and others are hoping to help John McWar by sliming him.

William Ayers has been awarded numerous civic awards and has renounced terroism repeatedly. He was never convicted of any crime, and is a good American citizen.I believe that when someone redeems themselves by their life and action it is time to forgive them, and not use them to try and tie a tenuous relationship to a fine Presidential candidate.

Information on William Ayers.

Ayers is currently a Distinguished Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, College of Education. His interests include teaching for social justice, urban educational reform, narrative and interpretive research, children in trouble with the law, and related issues.
He began his career in primary education while an undergraduate, teaching at the Children’s Community School (CCS), a project founded by a group of students and based on the Summerhill method of education. After leaving the underground, he earned an M.Ed from Bank Street College in Early Childhood Education (1984), an M.Ed from Teachers College, Columbia University in Early Childhood Education (1987) and an Ed.D from Columbia University in Curriculum and Instruction (1987).

He has edited and written many books and articles on education theory, policy and practice, and has appeared on many panels and symposia.

Ayers worked with Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley in shaping the city's school reform program,[33] and was one of three co-authors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge grant proposal that in 1995 won $49.2 million over five years for public school reform Since 1999 he has served on the nine-member board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an anti-poverty, philanthropic foundation established in 1941.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 7:28 PM

Oh! Did they have any to begin with?

Posted by: wes1155

---------------------------------

good point, beauty of this is that McCain/Palin undoubtedly have skeletons in their closet.

Posted by: MrSmith1 | October 4, 2008 7:27 PM

Palin's husband was a member of a society which advocated Alaska's secession from the United States of America. Does that mean she was aiding and abetting this group?
Does that make her an associate of someone who advocated treason?

Posted by: seemstome | October 4, 2008 7:27 PM

Moose Lady has shown her true colors. Can anyone imagine this bimbo leading the free world? The horror! The horror!

Posted by: copynp | October 4, 2008 7:27 PM

Since McCain is going to unload Tuesday night, let's all tune in and see the rest of the collapse of the McCain campaign. Obama is brilliant. For those who have not read his book or listened to his speeches, they have no clue how good this man really is. Fox noise and other junk from the yellow media are not real news.

Posted by: EarlC | October 4, 2008 7:26 PM

George Washington, speaking about the American flag: "We take the stars from Heaven, the red from our mother country, separating it by white stripes, thus showing that we have separated from her, and the white stripes shall go down to posterity representing Liberty."

Obama: “I won't wear that pin on my chest”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccbPVMBKQpA

Everyone has their hand over their heart during the Star Spangled Banner, except Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o&feature=related


I was raised to show respect for our flag and it's meaning. This guy wants to be the President of the United States of America, and he can't even show respect for our flag.

Posted by: American_Citizen | October 4, 2008 7:22 PM

Dirty pitbull, here are palin's fresh ideas and washington reforms and the coming changes. Finally in her stinking vomit she her gone.

Who read the NYT newspaper for palin in the first place?

Palin is being spoonfed by Bush advisers, garbage in garbage out. The self-righteous fool is finally showing her true colors.

What a shame.

Posted by: dressypink | October 4, 2008 7:22 PM

If we don't spread the word far and wide, this woman could be vice president - and then, God forbid, president.

Posted by: womanfortruth | October 4, 2008 7:20 PM

I just heard Palin linking Obama with the Bill Ayers of the 1970s. This stunt will backfire! Obama did not know Ayers then, and he was only 8 years old. The Republican campaign has no integrity. Palin has to look at her husband to see who really loves the United States. Isn't it so nice that he follows her around and waves at the crowds.

Anyway, Obama spoke in Newport News, VA, today to a crowd estimated at around 15,000. Then he went to Philadelphia. I wonder what that crowd was.

Yes, it is so sad to see the utter demise of the Republican Party as most of us have known it through the years. People like Eisenhower, Goldwater, and Reagan are turning in their graves. It is a matter of time that a new party will emerge with some principles based on what "Honest Abe" had in mind. Were Jefferson and Lincoln here today, they would be enjoying tea in a Democratic caucus.

I fully expect self-respecting Republicans to start to bolt their party with this latest and most sinister of all personal attacks on a thoroughly vetted nominee of a major party. Let's vet Sarah Palin. Let's review McCain's past connections.

The party of "nonpartisanship" has become the party of no shame. I wonder how they plan to govern in a non-partisan way when all they are doing is blood-letting.

Posted by: EarlC | October 4, 2008 7:19 PM

Sarah Palin says she loves America, but SHE KNOWINGLY CONTINUES TO LIVE ON THE SAME PLANET WITH OSAMA BIN LADEN! Who does she think she's foolin'?

Posted by: rooster54 | October 4, 2008 7:17 PM

JakeD

You are implicitly agreeing what she said was untrue since you do not dispute the facts of the article?

Were you at Palin's rally today? I know you were looking forward to it.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 7:17 PM

Excuse me! The other day Governor Palin ouldn't even think of a publication she read - and now, all of a sudden, it's, "Well, I was reading my copy of today’s New York Times...." Probably not.

Posted by: dhbeckwith | October 4, 2008 7:14 PM

Reading Palin's comment at the fundraiser and then the NYT article, it's obvious she is lying. Seems she is counting on that most people won't bother to check. She has no trouble disrespecting truth. Such a Christian.

Posted by: asoders22 | October 4, 2008 7:14 PM

Pallin is so shmameless and clueless and does not have any credibility to serve in any public office. Obama should counter immediately with clips of Pallin witj Katie Curic.

Posted by: dressypink | October 4, 2008 7:13 PM

Wes1155:

Nothing Palin is saying is actionable. OTOH: False advertising on CNN! Or worse, they are in the tank for Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | October 4, 2008 7:13 PM

This from the woman married to the guy who belongs to that group in Alaska that advocated for secession. Un-be-lievable!

Posted by: martymar123 | October 4, 2008 7:12 PM

Say it isn't so, Va Gina Cheney!

Posted by: hamishdad | October 4, 2008 7:12 PM

Sarah's wink.

Proverbs Chapter 10: (RSV)

10. He that winketh with the eye causeth sorrow; But a prating fool shall fall.

Proverbs Chapter 6: (RSV)

12 A worthless person, a man of iniquity, Is he that walketh with a perverse mouth;

13 That winketh with his eyes, that speaketh with his feet, That maketh signs with his fingers;

14. In whose heart is perverseness, Who deviseth evil continually, Who soweth discord.

16. There are six things which Jehovah hateth; yea, seven which are an abomination unto him:

17. Haughty eyes, lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood;

18. A heart that deviseth wicked purposes, Feet that are swift in running to mischief,

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 4, 2008 7:11 PM

This story about Palin attacking Obama confirms my feelings. I think it's a bad mistake to stay negative on McCain's part. After watching both debates, McCain Vs. Obama and Palin vs. Biden, I finally realized what was bothering me. Really deeply beginning to bother me. In terms of objective facts, in terms of truth, the McCain-Palin campaign seems to have piled up an awful lot of falsehoods; and in terms of being disparaging about their opponents, again McCain-Palin seem to do it quite often. I'm tired of untruths and I'm tired of the negative campaigning. Not that Obama-Biden is blameless on both these counts, but they seem to have more truth and less negative campaigning in what they say. I believe that, if McCain and Palin told the truth about what they want to accomplish and how they could do it, specifically, instead of repeating slogans, they would have a strong case to make, but, alas, they haven't chosen that road. Call it bad advice or "win at any cost", it really bothers me. My guess is that it has had the same effect on others. Obama may not turn out to be the knight on a shining steed to right all wrongs. So I'll vote for the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: OCPatriot | October 4, 2008 7:11 PM

Check out this ad with McCain's campaign guy crying to the press about unfair treatment. It's pretty funny with the baby crying in the background. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HabIoeqzL40

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 4, 2008 7:11 PM

This stupid woman is really crazy. Obama and his supporters should go after her aggressively. They should not mind that she is a female. if this woman can allow herself to be so used and abused like a dirty condom, it is time to put her in her place with immediate effect. DEM women should lead the counter attack. The pit bull is now in the gutters

Posted by: dressypink | October 4, 2008 7:10 PM

Headline! Palin believes what she reads in the far-left liberal rag, the NYT. What a joke. She embraced Reagan, the man who sold cocaine to illegally fund Nicaraguan terrorists. Does she hate America so much that she thinks the Constitution is meaningless? Didn't she accuse Joe B. of looking backwards? Please!

It's the Culture Wars folks. It's all they've got. Attack your opponents patriotism. Hate and Division....that's all they've got.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 4, 2008 7:10 PM

What? She read the New York Times? Are you serious? I assumed she would have it read to her by an adult.

As for McCain: He has morphed into a dishonorable man. And that is a sad thing to see.

Posted by: repmisc | October 4, 2008 7:09 PM

Give me rezko over thug cheney any day of the week

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 7:08 PM

Listen Ms. Palin, you cannot win with sleazy despicable comments like this. You lost my vote - You seem to be a sick individual with very low IQ but with shamelessness. It is obvious a person who believes going to war is God's will and participating in religious demoguogary saying Jews deserved terrorism show your sick mind. Thank you for making this statement - you lost my vote. So will a lots of independent. Hope you go back to Alaska and live a despicable life away from decent people. McCain is a clown to have selected her.

Posted by: Dave42 | October 4, 2008 7:08 PM

does this mean the McCain camp is fresh outta ideas?

Posted by: MrSmith1

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Oh! Did they have any to begin with?

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 7:05 PM

does this mean the McCain camp is fresh outta ideas?

Posted by: MrSmith1 | October 4, 2008 7:04 PM

Hillary warned America about Obama Hussein's ties to terrorists like Ayers and felons like Syrian Rezko.

Thanks to Hillary and Sarah, we are recognizing Obama as a national security threat to America.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 4, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse
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Yup, and that worked great during the primaries, didn't it? Just look at how well Hillary is doing in the polls against McCain..With an added bonus that all of this is now old news to most people, so it won't have as much of an impact. What Little Miss Spunk will achieve with this is:

a) Drive away independents with the negativity and hurt the bipartisan message.

b) Provide Obama with yet another way to tie the McCain campaign to a president with 20% approval ratings.

c) Energize Obama's base even more.

Posted by: CohtR | October 4, 2008 7:04 PM

Those Muslim extremist blew up Wall Street and caused over 850 Trillion dollars in damage. That is the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 4, 2008 7:03 PM

Osama bin Laden lives on planet Earth.
Sarah Palin lives on planet Earth.
Therefore Sarah Palin lives with Osama bin Laden.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 4, 2008 7:01 PM

I voted yesterday... for Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

Posted by: jgisler | October 4, 2008 6:59 PM

This woman is as despicable and as dangerous as her old, angry, spiteful, irrational running mate. She just parrots libelous soundbyte lies that have been fed to her by Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis.

What a laugh to make the comment, "according to the New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong, " This, after her handlers have branded the Times as a mouthpiece for the Obama campaign.

John McCain must not be allowed to use the Bush smear campaign that defeated him in the 2000 primary. He has gone out and hired the whole gang. He is apparently willing to tell any lie in order to get elected. Watch him in the video- telling lies about Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-R5Vh5tOWk&NR=1

Not this time. Don't let it happen again.

Posted by: Luke2 | October 4, 2008 6:58 PM

After Palin and McCain lose, will she go back to her Governor job or be put in jail for troopergate? I feel sorry for Alaska

Posted by: steveeyes | October 4, 2008 6:56 PM

Bill Ayers, the unrepentant SDS bomber, and Barack Obama are more than neighbors on the south side of Chicago. They apparently appeared together several times at University of Chicago political events. They also served on the board of an organization pushing radical educational reform in Chicago. Documents recently released (under pressure) by the University of Illinois at Chicago demonstrate that they were comrades in arms, not just neighbors. I am a Democrat who doesn't want a radical as my president. That's why I am voting for McCain and Palin.

Posted by: rwe123 | October 4, 2008 6:55 PM

Watch Mc Cain and Palin return to their cheap, sleazy, dishonest GOP ways as they fall behind in the polls. These two blithering idiots have been shown to be a stand-up comedy duo.

America won't get suckered by their lies the way we were in 2000 and 2004. Nine straight months of job losses? The Wall Street bailout? Declining wages? All under George Bush's watch with Mc Cain voting with him 95% of the time in 2007.

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!

Posted by: losthorizon10 | October 4, 2008 6:53 PM

It is beyond me how a person could be dinged for being on a board with someone. Or being on staff at the same university. Are you kidding me? It's absurd. Should Obama have not served on the board or not taken the job at the university? Or left when that bozo came along? Or given him the total silent treatment. Give me a break. Only McCain is so anti-social and inappropriate as to not look at people.

Posted by: bmorebent | October 4, 2008 6:52 PM

rtfanning-
If your sleeping with a night light because the commies might get you, you need to keep in mind that McCain stood up to the commies and got his butt kicked. Weird how he braggs so shamelessly about being such a lousy pilot. (Five planes lost by him ,only one in combat).

Posted by: rooster54 | October 4, 2008 6:52 PM

Palin's alleged terrorism comment about Obama is extremely dangerous and shall be condemned by McCain and all Republicans. If Palin has really stated such connection then she should be prosecuted immediatly for inducing into sick minds thoughts that could lead to tragic action and event. I am really scared now.

Posted by: carlboudreau1 | October 4, 2008 6:50 PM

and you know what else? Obama eats babies too!

Geez, Palin go back to your icebox!

Posted by: hrica1 | October 4, 2008 6:50 PM

I'm thinking about a class action lawsuit against CNN. Don Lemon just revealed the media blackout, trying to cover up with live pictures AFTER the Palin rally saying "we heard her live, just moments ago, accusing Obama of paling around with terrorists." Giving the Obama response of her remarks being "offensive" though. What an outrage.

Posted by: JakeD

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Did you ever consider maybe CNN is trying to prevent getting hit with a liable and slander lawsuit since her assertions are patently false and misleading? Just another Palindrome, no matter which way you read it, it is still hateful, unchristian lies.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 6:49 PM

I don't think it is worth focusing on Palin, after what she has shown me of her capabilities thus far. Now I know that she at least knows to SPECIFICALLY name the New York Times. Say it ain't so Palin!

I'm poking fun. Seriously, character assassination isn't going to make up for the loss of credibility as of recent on her and McCain's ticket compared to the authenticity, competence, experience, and intellect of Obama and Biden's ticket. Period.

I think it is sad that for her and McCain (The "Experienced" ticket) to have to resort to guilt by association, as it obviously shows the irony of their own ticket, and that they don't know how to sell this supposed experience they speak of, to the people.

I know Obama is less likely to play political stunts in serious matters, he can think, he has judgment on the issues that I can agree with (moreso than McCain at least), he is knowledgable and competent to understand information and to get together a team of expertise, and he was smart enough to AT LEAST pick a knowledgable and competent VP candidate. I know Obama is in thorough thought of America.

Go Obama/Biden!! Don't let McCain and Sarah try to dupe the public, by not selling us THEIR EXPERIENCE and THEIR JUDGMENT (like you) On The Issues to the American People. We deserve that more than ever at this hour. Don't let McCain and Sarah ease into the White House with these low standards.

Obama/Biden '08
America '08 It's our time and we deserve better.

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 4, 2008 6:47 PM

The real threat to America and the world is well documented in "Shock Doctrine the Rise of Disaster Capitalism" and naomiklein.org. Read it and see if you can refute it.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 4, 2008 6:47 PM

Talking about domestic terrorism, I would like to see sometime a serious investigation about the political activities of the group behind the Oklahoma bombing. I think this would be more relevant to the present moment than the 60 radicals, who are dying of old age. I expect the extreme right wing groups to become more active if Obama wins, and therefore more of a threat to national security than 60's radicals

Posted by: car141 | October 4, 2008 6:46 PM

Quick, someone bring up Saturday Night live or Palins daughter, before they find out that Obama is a Commie !

Posted by: rtfanning | October 4, 2008 6:46 PM

This is the best the GOP can do? After eight years of venal incompetence, they engage in this kind of garbage?

Posted by: Attucks | October 4, 2008 6:45 PM

Lets see how low Palin and McCain can go. They are desperate! Open the flood gates to distortion and lies. I guess they do have a lot in common with Bush and Cheney.

Hey Palin, how is troopergate going?

Posted by: steveeyes | October 4, 2008 6:45 PM

You know it's bad for McCain when the KKK endorse barack hiesen obama. Obama in a landslide. Hannityites sean will be placed on 24/7 suicide watch. Friendly advice don't drink the Kool-Aid

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 6:45 PM

Apparently, she didn't read the whole article.

Obama met Ayers for the first time in 1995 -- twenty years after the dissolution of the Weather Underground. As she would say, Ayers's revolutionary days were when Obaman was in "like, second grade." Even now, they are not friends.

It is shameful that McCain would resort to lies and distortions instead of straight up campaigning. It is even worse that he would send Palin out to do it for him. Hiding behind her skirts isn't exactly courageous.

Posted by: fmjk | October 4, 2008 6:44 PM

Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obama's personal and political background.

Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes, THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obama's career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be “a repeat of the failed extremist politics that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.”

In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about: -Obama's extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-father's Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn—associations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press
-Barack and Michelle's 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon , Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama
-Obama's continuing connections with Kenya, the homeland of his father, through his support for the candidacy of Raila Odinga, the radical socialist presidential contender who came to power amid Islamist violence and church burnings
-Obama's involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obama's initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelle's dream-home property.
-the background and techniques of the Obama campaign's cult of personality, including the derivation of the words “hope” and change”
-Obama's far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program
-Obama's naïve, anti-war, anti-nuclear foreign-policy, predicated on the reduction of the military, the eradication of nuclear weapons and an overconfidence in the power of his personality, as if belief in change alone could somehow transform international politics, achieve nuclear-weapons disarmament and withdrawal from Iraq without adverse consequences, for us, for the Iraqis or for Israel.

Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeated—not by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based.

About the Author
DR. JEROME CORSI received a Ph.D. from Harvard University in political science in 1972

Posted by: mharwick | October 4, 2008 6:43 PM

I'm thinking about a class action lawsuit against CNN. Don Lemon just revealed the media blackout, trying to cover up with live pictures AFTER the Palin rally saying "we heard her live, just moments ago, accusing Obama of paling around with terrorists." Giving the Obama response of her remarks being "offensive" though. What an outrage.

Posted by: JakeD | October 4, 2008 6:43 PM

What's pathetic about Palin is she's not even taken seriously by the McCain people. She had to read in a newspaper that her own campaign was pulling out of Michigan.

Posted by: keller1

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Read in a newspaper? Come on now, she didn't read it in a newspaper, she saw it on FOX News.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 6:42 PM

Sorry for the typo below. My partial quote should read "palling around with terrorists."

Posted by: gibtex | October 4, 2008 6:42 PM

No terrorist could have brought America to its knees like the policies of Bush/Cheney.

McCain/Palin in '08? Thanks, but no thanks.

Posted by: hamishdad | October 4, 2008 6:31 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Well said! The terrorists we have to worry about the most are right in the White House.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 4, 2008 6:42 PM

I posted this link below but the BHO noise machine has posted dozens of comments since then. So, if you want to learn what the NYT and the WaPo aren't willing to tell you about BHO's connection to a former terrorist, follow the links here:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008087.html

Also, there are at least two comments below spreading false information on Palin relating to an AKan political party. Oddly enough, a couple weeks ago a public relations company which is part of the Obama universe tried to start a viral video containing similar lies:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008023.html

EthanWinner, is that you leaving those comments?

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | October 4, 2008 6:41 PM

I'm glad to see from many of these posts that the American people are just not going to fooled this time, after suffering through two elections full of Karl Rove's dirty campaign tricks.

Read the entire NYT article and see what it says for yourself. It hardly portrays Obama as "palling around with Obama."

As one person stated above, why would Sarah Palin be quoting the NY Times when McCain considers it a shill for the Obama campaign? Gosh, Sarah, what a darn inconsistency!

The truth is that Obama attended a few meetings of an organization devoted to educational matters in Chicago that Ayers also attended, because Ayers is a college professor and education expert in Chicago.

Using this kind of logic, one could state that McCain palled around with segregationists (he served in the Senate with Strom Thurmond, didn't he?), has the support of the Ku Klux Klan and refuses to denounce them, and is a documented traitor to the United States (he signed a statement as a POW denouncing his country and thanking the North Vietnamese for saving his life).

Ridiculous, and the McCain/Palin campaign knows how ridiculous it is, but they are desperate and grasping at straws at this point, hoping that more fear-based lies will scare people away from Obama. I hope that most people can see how transparent and shameless this move is.

Posted by: gibtex | October 4, 2008 6:40 PM

What's pathetic about Palin is she's not even taken seriously by the McCain people. She had to read in a newspaper that her own campaign was pulling out of Michigan. She's nothing more than a prop, filled with words written by others and charged with arousing male voters whose brains take a backseat to another organ (looking at you, Rich Lowry).

Posted by: keller1 | October 4, 2008 6:40 PM

All you have to do is look at McCain's Master, His name is George W Bush ..... besides looting America, besides all the Americans killed in his private war in Iraq, besides having a lunatic for his Vice President & besides all his lies & deceit .... Johnny-boy jumps when georgi-boi yells. The Bush puppet needs to retire to one of his many houses with all the money he looted from Silver Auto Savings & Loan.

Posted by: gatorsn09 | October 4, 2008 6:39 PM

Anything but real issues, eh McFailin' groupies?
Ayers is only an issue for neo-McCarthyist right wing idealogues with bad plans for America. This issue is 40 years old and irrelevant. Ayers is harmless. Only a manipulative paranoid idiot thinks otherwise. You guys continue to rant over red herring issues while your stupid neocon ideas kill multitudes of innocent Americans and others on a regular basis through atrocious foreign policies, misguided wars, and unethical economics.
If you right wingers pull this election fraud off and win, we'll all suffer and you'll answer for it when you meet the God your fat preachers never knew.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 4, 2008 6:38 PM

Wind up this Pit Bull and it barks too!. Palin is just a mouthpiece for McCain so that he can avoid spewing slanderous remarks himself. Its a matter of honor , you know. Send out Palin. She will say just about anything and already has. . We are just entering the dirtiest phase of McCain’s already nasty but losing campaign. Obama will need to be super vigilant to fight this garbage and he will need to send out his attack dogs as well. The SwiftBoaters, Rovian dirty tricksters, Jerome Corsi, Willie Horton ads, Scary Sarah, its going to be like the a Hollywood horror movie until we put the wooden stake into the McCain campaign on November 4th.

Posted by: jeffl240 | October 4, 2008 6:37 PM

Below are examples of Bush Family members who have profited from the war and occupation of Iraq. These issues have not been examined or reported by the mainstream media.

Neil Mallon Bush the younger brother of the President, infamous for his involvement in the Silverado S and L scandal, has been hired by Crest Investment Company as a consultant for $60,000 per year to assist with their efforts to serve as a middleman to advise other companies that seek taxpayer-financed business in Iraq. Working with Crest puts Neil Bush at the center of multiple organizations profiting from the war and occupation in close alliance with long-term Bush Family allies.

Also related to this Neil Bush network is Diligence LLC ( http://www.diligencellc.com/index.html ). Diligence shares addresses and many Board members with New Bridge Strategies. It was formed by past members of the CIA and Britain's MI5 Intelligence Services along with experts in international law, journalism and intelligence which enables them to review all sorts of future investment projects and provide security advice. Diligence opened an office in Baghdad in July 2003 where they provided payroll protection and delivery, personnel and facilities security, review of potential Iraqi business ventures, training and management of personal security forces, and intelligence briefs. A subsidiary includes Diligence Middle East, LLC which was created in partnership with New Bridge and the Kuwaiti Coroporation, Al-Mal Investment Company.

William H.T. ("Bucky") Bush, an uncle of George W. Bush, joined the board of directors of the St. Louis based company Engineered Support Systems in March 2000. (See: http://www.engineeredsupport.com/) Bucky Bush was one the Bush Pioneers, the campaign contributors who raised more than $100,000 in the 2000 presidential election. Engineered Support Systems has three areas: light military support equipment, heavy military support equipment, and electronics/automation systems. Since 2000, following the presidential election and the 9-11 attacks, the company's federal contracts, revenues and its stock value have all gone up. Engineered Support Systems has been in the top 100 contractors with the DoD since 2001. Its contracts with the U.S. military have totaled over $1 billion.

William H.T. Bush is also a trustee for the investment firm Lord Abbott, one of Halliburton's top 10 shareholders and also a top-ten mutual fund holder in Halliburton, which has obtained prime contracts in Iraq. Vice President Cheney, the former CEO of Halliburton, still has between $18 million and $87 million invested through Vanguard, another top-ten holder in Halliburton stock.

Marvin P. Bush, the youngest brother of George W. Bush, shares an interest in federal contracts held by companies in his firm's portfolio. Marvin Bush is also an adviser at HCC Insurance, formerly called the Houston Casualty Company, one of the biggest insurance carriers for the World Trade Center. Bush was a director at HCC, which has benefited financially from the 9-11 insurance bailout legislation passed by Congress at the instigation of the White House. The departure of Marvin from the HCC board was announced the same day, November 22, 2002, as the passage of the bill.

Marvin Bush is co-founder and partner in Winston Partners, a private investment firm which is part of a larger firm called the Chatterjee Group. (See http://www.winstonpartners.com/. ) According to SEC filings, the Chatterjee Group consists of Winston Partners, LP; Chatterjee Fund Management, LP; Winston Partners II LDC, a Cayman Islands-based company; Winston Partners II LLC; Chatterjee Advisors LLC; Chatterjee Management Company; Mr. Chatterjee himself; and Furxedown Trading Limited, a company organized under the laws of the Isle of Man. The address for Winston Partners II LDC is in the Netherlands Antilles. The other subsidiaries were organized in Delaware. Governor Jeb Bush is also an investor in the Winston Capital Fund, which happens to be managed by Marvin's firm.

According to the Sept 30, 2003, issue of Mother Jones, an $80 million Iraq contract was awarded to Nour, a company which began in 2003 with ties to Winston Partners. Nour is an international investment and development company" with more than 100 employees based in Iraq, and claims expertise in telecommunications, agribusiness, internet development, recruitment, construction materials, oil and power services, pharmaceuticals and fashion apparel.

In January, 2004, Nour was awarded a $327 million contract to equip the Iraqi armed forces and Civil Defense Corps.

In addition, after the $327 million contract was awarded it was revealed that Nour had no prior experience in providing military equipment. Nours response was it planned to subcontract its weapons procurement to the Polish firm, Ostrowski Arms unfortunately, Ostrowski didn't even have a license to export weapons. After these concerns the Army decided to terminate the contract with Nour. This added to the delays in body armor and other equipment that have increased the risks for U.S. soldiers

Does anyone see a conflict of interest here. Is this what our soldiers died for.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 4, 2008 6:34 PM

Hey, dastubbs: I could torture you into confessing to the Kennedy assassination. EVERYONE who is tortured eventually breaks. You've seen too many "hero" movies...

Posted by: pwhited | October 4, 2008 6:32 PM

I wonder if sarah read that article in the national enquirer about the alaskan governor alleged affair with her husbands business partner.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 6:32 PM

No terrorist could have brought America to its knees like the policies of Bush/Cheney.

McCain/Palin in '08? Thanks, but no thanks.

Posted by: hamishdad | October 4, 2008 6:31 PM

Well, what else are they going to do when Obama's poll numbers clicked up again after the vaunted Biden/Palin debate????

And anyone that thinks Palin came up with this is delusional!!! McCain's backroom merely spun this up like a top and gave it to their new Barbie doll to regurgitate!

Palin read the NYT???? ROFLMAO!

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 4, 2008 6:31 PM

Palin is a loser

Posted by: ramsistla | October 4, 2008 6:30 PM

McCain’s handlers has served notice that the Senator is going to play hardball by impugning Barak Obama’s character—presumably, the man’s ties with the ranting Reverend Wright, the subversive Bill Ayers, the crooked Tony Rezko, the less than patriotic Michele, etc—But what is going to prevent the Obama people from countering by dredging up McCain’s involvement in the Keating scandal, his preferential treatment in getting into the Naval Academy, his graduating fifth from the bottom of his class, his marital infidelity, his second-marriage into big money, his wife’s drug addiction, their 7 houses, 13 cars, etc.? And how would this petty, demeaning nastiness inform voters regarding the real issues? How would it square with McCain’s lofty “Country-First” mantra?

The Senator has stated that he would rather lose an election than lose a war. Perhaps he should recall the example set by his hero James Stockdale and instead instruct his handlers that he would rather lose the election than lose his honor.

Posted by: Carlossss | October 4, 2008 6:29 PM

McCain & Nurse Palin are pathetic, grasping for straws. Palin wouldn't know a terrorist from her pet Moose or was that a mouse she could skin ?

Posted by: gatorsn09 | October 4, 2008 6:29 PM

Palin is irrelevant. Palin is nothing more than a puppet for John Mccain. The woman doesn't think for herself, she doesn't know what to say or when to say it. All Palin is good for is reading someone else speeches and rememerizing even the proven lies of the talking points of the Mccain campaign. Palin doesn't know nothing about the issues and she certainly can't explain anything in detail. Palin is a walking puppet that is told when to talk, what to say, and how to think. Palin needs to get a mind of her own. What kind of VP would she be if her assistant know more than she does? Even at the debate she got every attack against Obama wrong. If she had a clue what she was talking about she wouldn't have said it. But she doesn't. The Mccain campaign are nothing but liars and cheats full of gimmicks and stunts thats why their declining in the polls.

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 4, 2008 6:28 PM

So let me get this straight...Sen. Obama has worked along side someone who bombed a federal building, and we're supposed to think it's no big deal? Again, instead of denouncing Ayers from the start, he worked on various projects with him. And now that he's running for President, he conveniently says "I oppose his radical views." Where have I heard this before, Reverand Wright?

Fact is, the media has failed in its duty to tell us all there is to know about this community activist turned Senator, because, heaven forbid, it can't look like we're picking on the minority. Well, if someone doesn't do some digging soon, this radical and his buddies will occupy the White House, and will turn this country into a place where we don't want to live

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Where the heck have you been for the last 2 years. Obama went over all this a few times already on TV. Go to You Tube and watch the interview with O'Reilly. Do you think anybody cares what some guy did when Obama was 8 years old. If the guy is a terrorist why isn't he in jail. Maybe little Miss Palin should worry about her own criminal activity. Miss hold me accountable, I refuse to testify. She's only making a fool of herself.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 4, 2008 6:27 PM

Let me get this straight Thug cheney made billions off the war in Iraq his company is responsible for the death of 11 soldiers from faulty wiring in the shower systems. And you worry about william ayers?


The administration outed a covert C.I.A. agent to sale a war for the PNAC crowd. What did the mav do? NOTHING

$9,000,000,000.00 missing from the war reconstruction fund
Leahy amendment 3292 to stop fruad, and war profiteering mccain voted no. That was real patriotic

Fact: Thug cheney made tons of money bush made his share they held secret energy meetings with oil thugs. Now you want us to forget that the mav stood by and said

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 6:27 PM

Well, its part of the hopeless McCain strategy to attack Obama's "character." Trot this shameless hussy out to throw molotov cocktails.

McCain and Sarah should look at their own characters. The former, a cheat who dumped his first wife to marry a younger heiress, the latter, a woman who was busy ranting against sex education while her own daughter was busy getting knocked up by a local thug.

Posted by: jaysit | October 4, 2008 6:27 PM

The more this woman opens her mouth the more I despise her. I guess they know they have no chance to win on their merits so they'll just stoke fear, bigotry, xenophobia, and racism instead. What a duplicitous lowlife sack of... fine upstanding Christian values *cough*

Posted by: Chip_M | October 4, 2008 6:26 PM

is anyone else still watching CNN?

Posted by: JakeD | October 4, 2008 6:26 PM

I guess she only reads (or has explained to her)and believes the NYT and Washington Post when it helps her make some inane point.

She and her "pals" ignore subpoenas to testify and hide behind scripts and sounds bites and yet one who has owned up to a crime and done good community work with Mayor Daley and others is a "terrorist."
Not a very forgiving person for all her religous fervor.

Posted by: jh13 | October 4, 2008 6:24 PM

I actually READ the NYTimes story, which it seems both the author of this and Palin did not. It was not unflattering. It was an investigative piece about Obama's alleged "association" with a terrorist. Anyone who concludes that he pals around with Ayers did not read it. But then it must be difficult for Sarah to read "everything" (as she told Katie Curic she reads) thoroughly. Obama lives in the same neighborhood as Ayers and represented his district on two issues that Ayers has expertise on and, omg, they eveb attended some meetings together to determine who got grants funded by the Annenberg Foundation! Does McCain really want to start in about associations? How about reading this http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_berman ?

Posted by: ReasonablePerson | October 4, 2008 6:21 PM

Learning to slime at the feet of the Master. Notice she didn't have the guts to make these comments before the debate, when Biden would've had the opportunity to throttle her. Now that she'll never be in an unscripted setting again she's the little bomb thrower. The definition of coward.

Posted by: keller1 | October 4, 2008 6:21 PM

Obama has still NOT denounced William Ayers...That's what scares me!
Posted by: MarkInAustin |
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Hey Mark, did you catch the part of the article that says: "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight." That's called "denunciation."

The term "swift-boating" mean anything to you? Google it. It's when libel and slander are used to impugn someone's integrity or reputation...you know, distorting the truth or, better yet, dispensing with truth altogether. (Kind of like what george w bush's campaign did to John McCain in 2000. That was bad. You might even call it "immoral.")

But this isn't what scares me. What scares me is people like you who simply can't--or won't--read.

The lies aren't going to work this time. We've had lies. We're tired of lies. We need better than that. Lies aren't going to make this a better country, just an angrier one. Lies aren't going to put unemployed people back to work or give them insurance. Lies have given us a war financed with hundreds of billions of dollars of borrowed debt that we haven't had the courage to get out of yet.

Lies aren't good enough anymore.

Posted by: tellthetruth01 | October 4, 2008 6:21 PM

Boy, oh boy, the RNC/Palin-McCain trolls are desperate today. We know, you got your talking points in last nights conference call. You all should be ashamed of yourselves, but that probably is something lacking in your genetic makeup and so cannot help yourselves.

First of all you KNOW Palin didn't actually read the New York Times, so there is lie one and you KNOW Palin probably doesn't even know who the Weather Men were.

You would all make Joe McCarthy right proud there I'll betchca. Yes guilt by association. So if you hold this to be true for Obama, why aren't you upset with a much closer guilt by association relationship? Todd Palin WAS a member of the AIP. So using the Palin-McCain yardstick, she is guilty of treason.

What a bunch of tools! All the Palin-McCain campaign has left is FUD since their policies are already so well know. All you have to do is look at the last eight years.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 4, 2008 6:20 PM

She’s just like us! Every time I’m asked a less than pertinent question I too begin to foam at the mouth and wax moronic. Don’t we all?

“…if you aren’t afraid that she is a 72-year old heartbeat from the presidency, you should be.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

Posted by: kmarin | October 4, 2008 6:18 PM

I wonder if the McCain campaign's "new" strategy of putting out character assassination ads has anything to do with Sarah Palin's visit yesterday in TX with T. Boone Pickens. It may have been an innocent discussion about energy issues, but Pickens was one of a small group of men who funded the Swift Boat ads against Kerry. Supposedly he's not doing any such thing this year because of his focus on energy, but I do wonder...

Posted by: megan73 | October 4, 2008 6:18 PM

The NYT article was saying the exact opposite: Ayers and Obama WERE NOT CLOSE. Read the article yourself, Ms. Palin. Don't tell me you can't understand a plainly written article in NYT. You had a degree in Journalism. Oh My! What else do you understand then?

Posted by: marianne3 | October 4, 2008 6:18 PM

The more I know of Palin the wiser my flip flop from McCain to Obama appears and sounds like an informed and decisive flipping of a page of our USA history.

Posted by: postedbygeorge | October 4, 2008 6:18 PM

The Invisible Knights of the Ku Klux Klan showed up at the Presidential debate at Ole Miss. They were there is support of the McCain/Palin ticket.

The KKK is the original terrorist organization in the United States.

They are abject cowards. Church bombings including one in which 4 little black girls were killed; a mob of 30 whites kidnapped 2 black families and executed them including a 7-moth pregnant black female; assassinations in which a white housewife and mother of 5 was killed during a voter registration, kidnapping civil rights workers Cheney, Schwerner, and Goodman then executed them.

McCain neither Palin denounced the presence of the KKK at the Old Miss presidential debate.

Posted by: theodosia1 | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

The NYT article was saying the exact opposite: Ayers and Obama WERE NOT CLOSELY ASSOCIATED. Read the article yourself, Ms Palin. Don't tell me you can't even understand a plainly written article from a mainstream newspaper! You had a degree in journalism? Oh My.

Posted by: marianne3 | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

I find it interesting that when the NY times reports a negative story about the McCain campaign (rick davis' $15,000 a month payments from fannie mae), the McCain campaign says that the NY Times is no longer a legitimate news organization and is in the tank for Obama. However, when they report something about Obama (which isn't even negative if you read the article) the McCain campaign quotes it as proof that Obama supports terrorists. Which is it.. legitimate news or the "liberal media"

Posted by: carlislet | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

Why doesn't the media call up the candidates on their good Christian merits when they lie about each- especially when they use their belief system to help them win appeal on the campaign trail ("her reward is waiting for her in Heaven"). As a devout Christian how can Ms. Palin live with herself for making such false or misleading statements about her opponents? Or is the 9th Commandment of concern to her only when she's thinking of Alaskan State troopers or librarians?

Posted by: wturecki | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

My oh my. Now, all of a sudden, Palin, who never read the paper in her life, is quoting (selectively) from the NYT. Too illiterate to read the whole article, she didn't get the gist: that there is NO connection between Obama and Ayers or any terrorists. What she didn't explain was her connection to her anti-Semite preacher or the terrorists, like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, that she hangs out with.

Posted by: chirp | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

The New York times story is a whitewash. As is this article. As Stanley Kurtz and others have shown, Ayers and Obama had far more than a "casual" associatiion. What an absurd thing to say. But when one is in the tank, one will say anything to help your man win.

Posted by: dakotadoug83 | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

My oh my. Now, all of a sudden, Palin, who never read the paper in her life, is quoting (selectively) from the NYT. Too illiterate to read the whole article, she didn't get the gist: that there is NO connection between Obama and Ayers or any terrorists. What she didn't explain was her connection to her anti-Semite preacher or the terrorists, like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, that she hangs out with.

Posted by: chirp | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

Rev wright is wrong on many levels but he never went on a witch hunt.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

The McCain Campaign is just going to get more and more vile from here on to election day because they have nothing of substance they can run on -- hence, they feel they must attack Obama.

Posted by: PaulSunstone | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

She's learning to slime at the knee of the Master.

Posted by: keller1 | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

She's learning to slime at the knee of the Master.

Posted by: keller1 | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

She's learning to slime at the knee of the Master.

Posted by: keller1 | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

There is only one person of the four on these tickets who has even remotely traitorous ties and that is Barack Obama. But you don't want anyone to look into that, do you? Ayers, Dohrn, Rezko, ACORN, the CAC, $200 mn in illegal foreign campaign contributions, follow the money.

Posted by: joanne600 | October 4, 2008 6:16 PM

War hero don't know the difference between tactic, and strategy. He's seventy two with a quick temper. I would rather convict bush and thug cheney stay in office then that old fool and bimbo freak.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 6:10 PM

If we are voting for talk show hosts, McCain and Palin might be the ones to choose since they come with such bizarre material, ratings would be high. But, we're voting for president and vp, McCain and Palin pose too great a risk to our well being and security to put them in those positions. In fact, after the elections both of them should consult a shrink.

Posted by: rrau22 | October 4, 2008 6:10 PM

So let me get this straight...Sen. Obama has worked along side someone who bombed a federal building, and we're supposed to think it's no big deal? Again, instead of denouncing Ayers from the start, he worked on various projects with him. And now that he's running for President, he conveniently says "I oppose his radical views." Where have I heard this before, Reverand Wright?

Fact is, the media has failed in its duty to tell us all there is to know about this community activist turned Senator, because, heaven forbid, it can't look like we're picking on the minority. Well, if someone doesn't do some digging soon, this radical and his buddies will occupy the White House, and will turn this country into a place where we don't want to live.

Posted by: PASpilman | October 4, 2008 6:10 PM

Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn know more about Barack Obama -- what he thinks and feels, how he assigns values, what he cares about most and why -- than do 99% of the American people.

That doesn't seem to bother anybody.


Posted by: barker3320 | October 4, 2008 6:00 PM

And being married to a guy who wants Alaska to secede from the United States is good?

The first dude is a traitor.

And I am not talking 40 years ago.

Sarah throws stones when she lives in a glass house.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | October 4, 2008 5:58 PM

Thats real lady like to lie on a man you never even met. Thats real Christian and lady like. That is what jesus would do right.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 5:58 PM

Great gloves off :) It's time to point out that McCains touted years of military expertise and foreign affairs apparently weren't enough to deter him from pushing the invasion of Iraq!

Posted by: stodayxx | October 4, 2008 5:57 PM

Palin - Americans aren't going to play your Bush/Rove fear games this time !
You're growing Desperate and lashing out in desperation !
Dang Gummit' Palin - you're about to LOSE !

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Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | October 4, 2008 5:57 PM

If the MSM were doing their job John McCain would be 20 points behind.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 5:56 PM

Palin can't rely on her own merits, so she invents filth based upon innuendo.

As Palin for VP, it wouldn't take us long to be burning books and reinstituting Jim Crow laws for anyone different than the "true" Americans.

Posted by: wolfi101 | October 4, 2008 5:54 PM

ManUnitdFan:

What are you talking about? I am just waiting for Gov. Palin on CNN. I don't even read the NYT.

Posted by: JakeD | October 4, 2008 5:53 PM

I'm shocked, SHOCKED! that Sarah Palin reads, much less the NYT.

Pretty weak accusation coming from a woman who praised a group of people who wanted to secede from the U.S. (Not to mention her husband is a former member)

Unbelievable how easily the right will overlook the behavior of its own. Obama is "anti-family" but McCain is the admitted adulterer. Obama is "anti-American" but Palin praises secessionists. Obama has connections to Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac but only McCain actually hires their lobbyists.

In less than a decade the policies of the GOP have brought us to the brink. Enough is enough.

Posted by: tdsgava | October 4, 2008 5:52 PM

Republican talking points

Is sarah experienced? Thats sexist how dare you.

5 schools in 6 years why is that? Thats none of your business you sexist pig

Did sarah have an affair? Same on you.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 5:51 PM

Nice, Palin... I guess it's back to the desperate smears, now that your sugar daddy's campaign is on the rocks. Never mind that Obama was 8 years old when Ayers did his thing. Never mind that Obama never once seeked Ayers support.

This woman continues to lasting damage to QUALIFIED women seeking office. Women who actually have IDEAS, not a laundry list of talking points crammed in her head. I so look forward to her backing her sorry act back to Alaska.

Posted by: tdub55 | October 4, 2008 5:50 PM

So if Obama has nothing to hide with all of his questionable associations, why doesn't the MSM really dig in and look into his past? I mean if there's nothing there, why fear a real vetting? As for calling McCain a traitor for his taped "confession", that's about as low as it gets. No one in the military considers him a traitor because everyone in a torture camp breaks at some point. So put your gloves back on because that isn't even a relevant point. You'd be better off trying to dredge up that old chestnut about the Keating Five. Your man has real ethics problems. That old ACORN didn't fall far from the tree.

Posted by: joanne600 | October 4, 2008 5:48 PM

The facts are eye opening. Obama's relationship with Ayers is minimal at best and part of his past. There are no facts that he has any deep confiding relationship with the man today. So, the people grabbing a hold of this distration are wishing for a McCain presidency. McCain is a warmonger, adulterer, opportunistic (in his own words, "I wanted to be president because of ambition"), lying old man who wants to keep our troops in Iraq for a war that can never be won... He has many skeletons in his closet, i.e. he was pimped by Keating, he is an advid gambler who has thrown political support to casino owners, his temper is out of control, and he left his 1st wife and children for a pill popping beer princess who doesn't even acknowledge her other siblings.

Granted mud can be throw either way, but I wnat to hear about the economy, unless there is solid proof that Obama has made plans with Ayers, Wright, and Rezco to blow up America for selfish gain. Sounds stupid doesn't it? That's why Obama has my vote...His dirt ain't clean, but McCain's pile is way bigger...

Posted by: noantipathy | October 4, 2008 5:46 PM

So Obama is unpatriotic and associates with terrorists, but it's okay for Todd Palin to belong to a movement that wants Alaska to secede from the USA, and Sarah goes to their functions with him and that's acceptable, not to mention patriotic? "Smile, wink!"

Posted by: taylorneighbor | October 4, 2008 5:43 PM

Sarah worked hard on repeating taking points for the debate. Thats why she sound like a tape recorder.

Moderator ask sarah how is the weather?

Sarah I'm an energy expert and stuff, and i don't have to answer your questions and stuff, and such as i'm the soccer mom and stuff, hockey mom and stuff. Their you go again joe
not so joe wow i'm on a role wink wink nod nod.

Joe biden is the real deal. Sarah palin is a gucci knock off purse you find at your local flea market.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 5:41 PM

She is a human bucket of filth. Treat her like the trash she is and flush her back down into that sewer called Alaska.

Posted by: chadwboyer | October 4, 2008 5:41 PM

This woman has little room to speak given her long association, and the association of her husband, with members of the AIP, who openly advocate the secession of Alaska from the United States. Also, the leader of this organization stated, and I quote: "the fires of hell are glaciers compared to my hatred for the United States of America." This sounds worse than anything Rev. Wright ever said about the United States. Of course, a big difference is that, while Sen. Obama has publicly condemned Rev. Wright for his hateful contents, Sarah Palin has never so much as criticized the leader of the AIP for his expressed hatred of our country. The more one gets to know this woman and her associates, the more one realizes what a danger she presents to the security of our nation and the freedom of its citizens. Johnny McSame is desperate and will say anything over the next month in an effort to derail the inevitable election of Sen. Barack Obama to be President of the United States. WE CAN STOP HIM!!! Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: Caliguy55 | October 4, 2008 5:37 PM

"somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know" and "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight."


Sounds like a denunciation to me.

McCain and Palin are obviously desperate, but these type of attacks are only going to appeal to those that are already on board.

If Palin had more credibility (and her debate performance did nothing in this regard) and had been on the scene longer, her message might resonate more. But that isn't the case.

Independents aren't interested in a smear campaign, they want solutions to the problems Bush-Cheney have dumped on us.

Polling indicates it's Obama who's message is being heard.

Posted by: mathas | October 4, 2008 5:36 PM

I read about The Weather Underground--in HISTORY class! Sarah Palin's the one who chastised Biden about "looking back" and "playing the blame game," when it comes to criticizing the CURRENT presidential administration. Now, she wants to point back 40 years and blame Barack Obama for things a bunch of hippies did in the 1960s? Say it ain't so, Sarah!

Posted by: CoolOnion | October 4, 2008 5:36 PM

What's clear from the Times (idiotic headline aside) is that Mayor Daley, the Annenberg Foundation, and the University of Illinois Board of Regents pal around with terrorists.

Now, try saying that with a straight face.

Posted by: krm13 | October 4, 2008 5:36 PM

What's clear from the Times (idiotic headline aside) is that Mayor Daley, the Annenberg Foundation, and the University of Illinois Board of Regents pal around with terrorists.

Now, try saying that with a straight face.

Posted by: krm13 | October 4, 2008 5:34 PM

OK, so let’s take the gloves off.

John McCain is a traitor. He is a traitor to the American people and he is a traitor to the honor of all men and women who serve in our military. John McCain has been a traitor since the day he wrote these words:

“I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate. I almost died and the Vietnamese people saved my life, thanks to the doctors.”

Those are the facts. Not ALL of the facts, of course, but they are the indisputable the facts I choose to use to show you that McCain is a traitor to the American people and our way of life.

This doesn’t feel right, does it? So why do we let Gov Palin get away with saying things like “Obama pals around with terrorists”? I hope this election will prove once and for all that attack politics is the act of desperation that dooms a political campaign.

Posted by: dastubbs | October 4, 2008 5:34 PM

Ayers is not a one time casual acquaintance of Ayers. That is a lie. He is well known to Obama. Ayers is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who advocated the use of nail bombs against his own countrymen. The one redeeming feature of the weatherman campaign was that they were incompetent and succeeded mostly in blowing themselves up accidently.

Posted by: fastphil10 | October 4, 2008 5:33 PM

It is the consistent patterrn of Obama's associates hating America, he is comfortable in that environment. It isnt that any single one is the kicker. How many people do you associate with that hate America?

Posted by: djmelfi | October 4, 2008 5:32 PM

I don't care if obama and osama were first cousins he still would make a better president then mccain.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 5:30 PM

Palin and McCain should crawl back in the gutter where they came from. So sick of misleading negative attacks.

Posted by: zoeeddie | October 4, 2008 5:29 PM

facts be damned hannityites will jump off a cliff if he ask them to. I remember when hannity and other fools were going around bumping their gums spreading obama gay rumors. Now you don't here a peep out of the right wing nut jobs about palin's affair.


Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 5:28 PM

Having a moron on your team, who knows nothing and will say anything, is handy. Especially if she can wink and wrinkle her nose while lying.

Posted by: thrh | October 4, 2008 5:27 PM

You know, a person could overlook just ONE terrorist friend -- could almost believe Barack's smarmy excuses if they for example couldn't read. But then one takes a look at the big picture. It's all put together pretty concisely in one spot. Do you think it's a coincidence to happen to have a whole BUNCH of terrorist friends? And we won't even mention the good Rev. Wright -- that's a whole 'nother chapter!! But don't take my word for it. Read it yourself.

http://www.barackbook.com/Friends.htm

Posted by: michelle_m | October 4, 2008 5:25 PM

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/joe-sixpacks-hockey-mom.html

Saturday, October 04, 2008
Joe Sixpack's Hockey Mom

I'm so sorry about Joey.

I don't know when it was that he started hittin' the six-packs. There we were, drivin' him to hockey practice, cheerin' him on. "Go, Joe, Go"!

Then we started findin' the tabs.

Oh, first it would be, y'know, we'd be sittin' on the sofa, and feel somethin' pokin' up, and we'd pull it out, and it would be a six-pack tab. Sure, you don't worry too much, someone drinkin' a six-pack every once in a while, not much to do, it's cold up here, y'know.

But then we started findin' the plastic can holders. Underneath the mattress. In the trophy room, up behind the cases. Piles of them in Joey's closet. "They're just puck holders, Mom!", he'd say. But I know better. I'm a hockey mom.

Now I've been drivin' Joey to hockey practice for years. And like any good Sixpack mom, like all the Sixpack's before me, I knew that I'd have to watch out for this. I'd heard the stories from Joey's grandpa. Wooden beer cases used to heat the house for the whole winter. The whole family outfitted with the barrels that Joey's great-grandfather used to drink up.

But not my Joey. Not my Joey Sixpack.

(tears up).

I try to be a good hockey mom! I warm up Joey's uniform in the oven each mornin' before practice, I keep his skates sharp and shiny, if there's any splinters on his stick, I make sure to get 'em off.

But what can I do? His father tries to discipline him, points out the window and says "If you don't stop, we'll have to send you to Russia, you can see it right from our house!"

But he just says "They drink six packs and play hockey there, too, Ma".

Sarah, she thinks it's so easy to talk about bein' a hockey mom, like it's all lipstick and drivin', beauty pageants and castin' the devil out. But it's not so easy for everybody. For lots of hockey moms and Joe Sixpacks, it's hard. Boy, when I look at Joey knockin' back another one of those six packs, I think, "She sure don't speak for me." Y'know, I heard her in the debate--the one before this one--she don't even really talk like that!

Thing is, she just talks about Joe Sixpack. She isn't actually one herself.

But I am. And I'm here with Joey. And his dad. It's time for practice again. And I need some help--just a decent hand, not just some words--like they understand. They're already busy shoutin' about somethin' else now.

Once a Sixpack, always a Sixpack, I guess. That's what they always say.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/joe-sixpacks-hockey-mom.html

Posted by: robthewsoncamb | October 4, 2008 5:25 PM

Caribou Barbie might want to stay away from slinging the bs around...."TROOPER-GATE"!


"The McCain-Palin campaign REALLY doesn’t want anyone to know the results of the Branchflower report. This report, due out next Friday contains the results of the ethics probe known as “Troopergate.” An emergency appeal was filed with the Alaska Supreme Court, after Judge Michalski ruled Thursday that the investigation should move forward"


Here's some more straight-talk, my friends
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http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/there-they-go-again-emergency-motion-filed-with-supreme-court-to-stop-troopergate-investigation/
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I'll start taking Palin seriously when she proves that she can do something other than read a tele-prompter and quote from note cards....you know, something like, give a PRESS CONFERENCE!!!

Posted by: DrainYou | October 4, 2008 5:20 PM

Just as everyone knew it would, here comes the tidal wave of filth that is the Republican campaign laid bare. What more proof does anyone need that McSame has nothing to offer, no solutions for our ills, no vision for our future, nothing positive to say for himself nor reason to vote for him. Anyone who would run such a campaign isn't a patriotic, and most definitely isn't putting America first. What a small, pathetic, selfish maggot.

Posted by: bclark3 | October 4, 2008 5:17 PM

Markinaustin Ollie north was cleared to right?

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 5:15 PM

Here's the bottom line: the WaPo and the NYT are de facto arms of the Obama campaign.

In this case, the NYT is covering for Obama, and Juliet Eilperin of the WaPo is doing them one better by covering for both the NYT and Obama.

If you want the truth, follow the links here:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008087.html

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | October 4, 2008 5:15 PM

Bingo kathleen

I remember when she helped bush steal the election in 2000. She hit all the talk shows every one on the right was loving her like palin. Now they laugh at crazy harris. I'm sure they will look back and laugh at sarah too. Thats what they do.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 5:14 PM

Yeah Jake, I'm sure 8 year old Barack Obama was complicit in those bombings.

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | October 4, 2008 5:13 PM

Palin's stated plan for the country consists almost exlusively of cutting programs and spending, but nothing else that she can articulate. She needs to understand that America doesn't need to be gutted like a dead moose. If she succeeds in faking her way into the vice presidency, that's a real possibility.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 4, 2008 5:08 PM

Kathleen4, Jesus would tell the truth and certainly tell Obama to "go and sin no more."

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 5:03 PM

McCain was cleared of breaking any laws during the Keating Five scandal but said he learned his lesson, including campaign finance reform ever since. Ronald Reagan divorced Jane Wyman too. No one is perfect. Troopergate and Palin's "affair" however, have yet to be proven.

William Ayers ADMITTED to an earlier Pentagon bombing.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 5:02 PM

Oh, and this is how they are going to "unite" the parties and work across the aisle? By spewing hateful things? I'm sure that's what Jesus would do - how very Christian of her.

I knew that Palin reminded me of someone and I just figured it out.

Katherine Harris

In the 1990s, Harris was attractive, photogenic and an evangelical who had blind faith in the party and would do or say whatever they told her to do. She ran mean-spirited races and moved up quickly up the ladder despite having no experience -- just like Palin.

And, just like Harris, they will probably ditch Palin when she is no longer useful to them.

Posted by: Kathleen4 | October 4, 2008 5:00 PM

r4147824, you do know that William Ayers ADMITTED to an earlier Pentagon bombing, right?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:58 PM

Keating 5

Troopergate

Cheating on first wife

Palin had an affair with todd business partner.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 4:58 PM

Gov. Palin is live on CNN in California right now.

Posted by: JakeD | October 4, 2008 4:57 PM

Ayers Isn't The Only Crook Obama Associates Himself With With. The Bail Out Crooks Who Scammed Fannie Mae Out Of Hundreds Of Millions And Basically left Our Financial System In Ruins Are Counting On Obama To Appoint One of them as Attorney General so they can avoid prison time.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=67068


http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMouthPeace

But Lets Not Forget That Obama's Friend Mayor Daily Is Keeping The Records Of The Obama / Ayers Foundation Under Wraps. What I can't figure is if there is nothing there, wha are they hiding? What happened to the public's right to know?

The Main Stream Media Fiddled As America Burned

Posted by: gdodd414 | October 4, 2008 4:55 PM

When you have a campaign manager saying that john mccain don't speak for the john mccain campaign. John lost control.

John mccain lost his mav statues in 2004 he approached John Kerry to asking to be on the ticket. Bush and Cheney promised him they would support him in 08.

The mav fell back in line. June of 04 was the beginning of the end of the mav that I knew and respected. He voted against the leahy amendment 3292. War profiteering hearing, and fruad. Mr. McCain truman held 437 hearings on war profiteering during wwII. Prescott bush the prez grandpa even felt the strong arm of justice.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 4:53 PM

I will quote Hillary Clinton (no "independent") on Palin again: "It's amazing, you know, she's been thrust into the national spotlight with very little preparation and I think that, all things considered, you saw a very composed and effective debater last night."

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/188053.html

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:48 PM

As I said, I wouldn't admit to reading the New York Times either.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:46 PM

Question for the palin base if she can't name one publication that she read to katie, and all of a sudden quote the NYT. Katie did her a favor right? I bet the independence are impressed. Just kidding

While she was stretching the meat loaf with fillers independents know that her performance in the debate had no nutritional value.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 4:43 PM

r4147824, Bob Barr has no chance of winning, so no. I am voting for McCain and Palin.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:42 PM

John McCain could have knocked it out of the park, and gained ground, and I even think could have pulled ahead in the polls if he would have exposed the pork in the bail out bill. His advisors are working against him.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 4:37 PM

Looks like we in for a month of deplorable and desperate McCain garbage tactics. They may have won their "base"back with Palin's medicore performance last week, but it's unlikely that thinking people will be moved by their half-truths & lies. Maybe he should rename his wheels the "Trashtalk Express."

Posted by: phyto0716 | October 4, 2008 4:35 PM

MarkinAustin

Bob barr is the only true conservative in the race. Are you going to vote for him?

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 4:35 PM

I meant September 11, 2001 attacks.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:33 PM

Rezko2Raines and blevins20061, don't get discouraged, even if the "polls" show McCain-Palin dropping. Just make sure to vote for them!

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:33 PM

McCain is a joke.

The powers that be in the republican party told him to pick a woman that don't know jack about jack. He could have won with Huckabee or Romney both seasoned veterans. Go to http://bobbarr2008.com if you want to vote for a true conservative.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 4:33 PM

r4147824, I'm not saying that Ayers was involved in the September 11, 1001 Pentagon attack. You do know that he admitted to an earlier Pentagon boming, right?

Back on topic, we still don't know everything there is connecting Obama to this terrorist:

Obama-Ayers records blocked at U of I Chicago

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/obamaayers_records_blocked_at.html

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:31 PM

OBAMA=
Inexperience
Terrorist/Racist Connections
Question of Patriotism

This man has been on his own "agenda" to get elected, not what's important to the american people.

Palin has more executive experience than Obama
I don't question her patriotism
I don't see terror or racist ties

She may not have the east coast "polish" that Washington is used to, but she is real. A real american.

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 4, 2008 4:27 PM

I guess she can tell katie she reads the NYT. Please

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 4:26 PM

Hillary Clinton on Palin: "It's amazing, you know, she's been thrust into the national spotlight with very little preparation and I think that, all things considered, you saw a very composed and effective debater last night."

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/188053.html

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:25 PM

Markinaustin

Wow did you come up with that on your on. Attention all hannityites if william ayers committed acts of terror he would be in gitmo right? Sarah Palin have a lot of nerve. She is a DICK CHENEY wannabe. She went to 5 schools in 6 years earned a degree in journalism but don't know how to answer a simple question. Troopergate is real, william ayers is fiction

Posted by: r4147824 | October 4, 2008 4:24 PM


Hillary warned America about Obama Hussein's ties to terrorists like Ayers and felons like Syrian Rezko.

Thanks to Hillary and Sarah, we are recognizing Obama as a national security threat to America.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | October 4, 2008 4:24 PM

SueB2, Obama has only distanced himself as much as is politically necessary. You can't see that? He condemnd "detestable acts" but not the man who still says he wishes they had killed more people at the Pentagon.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:20 PM

Obama has still NOT denounced William Ayers. The guy is UNREPENTENT about bombing the Pentagon (so is al Qaeda by the way). That's what scares me!

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:18 PM

Apparently Palin has a copy of the NYT but she can't read or comprehend what it says. This kind of low-road slime that Palin/McCain are going to throw won't work this time. I love this country and I can see that we're not perfect--for one thing we have the most moronic woman I've ever seen running for VP! Working to make America even better is patriotic! Thinking that we can do no wrong is just stupid!

Posted by: SueB2 | October 4, 2008 4:17 PM

So, she DOES read the New Your Times?! Imagine that, Katie. I wouldn't want to admit that either. I canceled my subscription a couple 9/11's ago.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 4, 2008 4:13 PM

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