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Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin gestures during a campaign speech on Oct. 6, 2008 in Clearwater, Fla. (Chris O'Meara/Associated Press)

By Dana Milbank
CLEARWATER, Fla. -- "Okay, so Florida, you know that you're going to have to hang onto your hats," Sarah Palin told a rally of a few thousand here this morning, "because from now until Election Day it may get kind of rough."

You betcha. And the person dishing out the roughest stuff at the moment is Sarah Palin.

"I was reading my copy of the New York Times the other day," she said.

"Booooo!" replied the crowd.

"I knew you guys would react that way, okay," she continued. "So I was reading the New York Times and I was really interested to read about Barack's friends from Chicago."

It was time to revive the allegation, made over the weekend, that Obama "pals around" with terrorists, in this case Bill Ayers, late of the Weather Underground. Many independent observers say Palin's allegations are a stretch; Obama served on a Chicago charitable board with Ayers, now an education professor, and has condemned his past activities.

"Now it turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," Palin said.

"Boooo!" said the crowd.

"And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,'" she continued.

"Boooo!" the crowd repeated.

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

Palin went on to say that "Obama held one of the first meetings of his political career in Bill Ayers's living room, and they've worked together on various projects in Chicago." Here, Palin began to connect the dots. "These are the same guys who think that patriotism is paying higher taxes -- remember that's what Joe Biden had said. "And" -- she paused and sighed -- "I am just so fearful that this is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America, as the greatest force for good in the world. I'm afraid this is someone who sees America as 'imperfect enough' to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country."

"Boooo!" said the audience.

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Obama and William Ayers, Weathermen Underground leader, have been friends since 1987. Obama and Ayers worked together at The Developing Communities Project, at The Woods Fund, at the Joyce Foundation, and at The Annenberg Challenge. Ayers is responsible for at least 12 bombings. Read the Chicago Magazine and New York Times interviews of Ayers.
No Regrets, Chicago Magazine, August 2001 issue.
No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; The New York Times, September 11, 2001, by Dinitia Smith.

Why haven’t the TV network news stations, major newspapers, magazines, and AP reporters uncovered the truth and told us? Because they want Obama elected.

At least Palin is trying to warn us about Obama. But it's too late. Everyone has been brainwashed by the Messiah.

Posted by: runmon | October 12, 2008 1:33 PM

Republicans are angry because the news media has been supporting and protecting Obama.

For two years the news reporters have cramed Obama down our throats with feel good fluff stories.

McCain and Palin are attacked and smeared by news reporters, late night talk shows, Saturday Night Live, The View, TV and Movie Stars.

Obama will win because the news media wants it. But America will lose because we can no longer depend on fair and objective reporting.

Posted by: runmon | October 12, 2008 1:27 PM

The New York Post counts 15 states where ACORN's been doing vote fraud.

Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:55:48 AM · by est1995 · 35 replies · 938+ views
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/09/the-new-york-post-counts-15-states-where-acor/ | Thursday, October 9, 2008 | The New York Post


Vote-Fraud-A-Go-Go Let every vote count, is the Democratic Party's mantra these days. That slogan might better be: Let every vote count as often as we need to win. Such, at any rate, are the tactics of ACORN, Barack Obama's favorite "community organizers," and its Project Vote - of which, the Democratic presidential candidate has boasted, "I started working as the director... here in Chicago." ACORN has been implicated in voter-fraud schemes in 15 states - including Ohio, from where The Post's Jeane MacIntosh reports today that a Board of Elections investigation has unearthed evidence of widespread voter fraud.

At least Palin is trying to tell the truth about Obama. The news media sure won't.


Posted by: runmon | October 12, 2008 1:19 PM

October 10, 2008
Obama, Acorn & Their Starring Role in the Mortgage Crisis

Frank Salvato Contributing Editor Frank Salvato is the managing editor for The New Media Journal. He serves at the Executive Director of the Basics Project, a non-profit, non-partisan, 501(C)(3) research and education initiative.

Barack Obama’s Connection to ACORN
When a young Barack Obama was first starting in his career as a “community organizer,” he caught the eye of Madeleine Talbot, the Chicago chapter head of ACORN. Talbot was so impressed with Obama’s organizational skills in his effort to attain asbestos abatement at a low-income housing project that she invited Obama to help train her own staff in the art of community organizing.

In an article by Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN leader and a member of ACORN’s National Association Board, published in Social Policy titled, Case Study: Chicago — The Barack Obama Campaign, Barack Obama is cited as being a key figure in ACORN’s yearly leadership-training seminars. Foulkes also exposes the fact that the much-touted Project Vote campaign which Obama takes credit for organizing was, in fact, in direct partnership with ACORN.

Ayers is just one of many left wing radicals who helped Obama raise money.

Google Obama's connection to ACORN it's much more serious.

Posted by: runmon | October 12, 2008 1:15 PM

geoclarke,,kind of a childish spin to try a psuede line about the nasty comments then include the mis spelled reference about MUSSOLINI,,low level klan rhetoric,,dopey post.

Posted by: gonville1 | October 12, 2008 9:09 AM

Sarah Palin has gone over the line from campaigning to rabble rousing. If she and John McCain have any claim to being responsible statesmen, then they need to tone Palin's rabble-rousing back a couple of notches. You cannot incite a crowd to hatred and violence and not take responsibility for the results.

Posted by: jamienettles | October 12, 2008 1:12 AM

Certainly there is a lot of vitriol from both sides leading up to the election. But one stooge in a crowd of thousands is no reason for all of this alarmist rhetoric. Where is the same outrage when a prominent Obama supporter with a platform, Sandra Bernhardt says that if Palin comes to NY as VP, black men will gang rape her? Thats an insult to both the political process as well as African American men.

And please enough with the nonsensical Nazi comparisons. I could just as easily use the same analysis of Obama rallies to make favorable comparisons to Hitler and Musollini, but that would be asinine. Many of you who post here are devoid of historical perspective, and really just too dumb to vote, and that includes Frank Rich.

Posted by: geoclarke | October 11, 2008 10:49 PM

>>>...more should be pointing out that Palin rallies are very similar in tone to Nazi rallies.....it this goes on, might we expect another crystal nacht? Instead of trashing Jews shops, those of Moslem Americans? or journalists?

Posted by: paulsilhan | October 11, 2008 10:32 PM

It's interesting to read all the very concerned posts from liberals who wish to opine on how McCain should run his campaign. Thanks, but I doubt those who post have the best interests of the McCain campaign at heart. Here's the bottom line, for liberal bloggers who can't seem to figure it out: the Republican base is angry. Very angry. They play by the rules, pay a disproportional amount of taxes, and then watch a Democratic social engineering project called the Community Reinvestment Act, implemented by using Fanne/Freddie practically wipe out their hard-earned 401(k) accounts. And then Congress passes a bailout package that puts the bill on THEIR tab, followed by no apparent interest in holding hearings into Freddie/Fannie/Frank Raines/Barney Frank/Chris Dodd, etc. No one advocates dumb statements like "Kill him!" (Ayers, not Obama). But given the level of discontent, it's remarkable that we've only had to listen to angry words. Our Founding Fathers did more. They took ACTION against their central government. And I daresay the Tories labeled them as "hate mongers" as well, as they burned effigies of King George III.

Posted by: paulsilhan | October 11, 2008 10:20 PM

Few a have picked up on this, but more should be pointing out that Palin rallies are very similar in tone to Nazi rallies.....it this goes on, might we expect another crystal nacht? Instead of trashing Jews shops, those of Moslem Americans? or journalists?

Posted by: rosenexpat | October 11, 2008 8:53 AM

I was at this rally and was pretty close to the front and never hear this comment.
If I didn't hear it there is a pretty good chance that Sarah didn't hear it either

Posted by: tbogg | October 10, 2008 7:50 AM

The Swift Boating of Obama has started - the Willie Horton is Ayers - only McCain and Palin have blown it by going over the top. This type of slander/character assassination doesn't work if it is aggressively stated repeatedly. Frankly, they look evil, and will be taken that way. Their absurd charges over Ayers smack of absolute desperation and if they continue on this tack it will backfire worse than it already has, because even the quiet moderates will decry what they are doing - whipping the gullible into fear and hatred. The Republican Party is laying the groundwork for its own demise. Good riddance!

Posted by: claudiamar | October 10, 2008 12:19 AM

Shameful, shameful, shameful.

McCain and Palin must respond immediately when such outbursts occur. Otherwise, silence=approval.
This passivity is a trait of an American "hero?" My opinion of the Republican nominees and the supporters who shout about "violence" continues to plummet.

Posted by: CMAmmirati | October 9, 2008 7:54 PM

MarkInAustin: We heard him loud and clear. How do we know Sarah Troopergate didn't?

Posted by: Garak | October 9, 2008 5:48 PM

rbuyan, how do you know she even heard the "Kill him!" comment?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 9, 2008 12:03 PM

Palin could (and should) have stopped her speech and directly scolded the idiot who shouted "Kill Him." But, of course, she just snickered and kept laying on the incindiary crap. The fact that she let this go tells me a lot about who she is. Like the Republicans keep saying..."its all about character!"

Posted by: rbuyan | October 9, 2008 12:00 AM

Palin could (and should) have stopped her speech and directly scolded the idiot who shouted "Kill Him." But, of course, she just snickered and kept laying on the incindiary crap. The fact that she let this go tells me a lot about who she is. Like the Republicans keep saying..."its all about character!"

Posted by: rbuyan | October 9, 2008 12:00 AM

Palin's near incitement of a crowd is indeed irresponsible and dangerous. But remember, this is the GOP appealing to their base. If someone tries to harm Obama, I guarantee you Palin will be in a heap of trouble. Remember, we live in a youtube.com era.

Posted by: meldupree | October 8, 2008 8:44 PM

@johnp6: That's not from another forum, that's an editorial from Salon.com, written by Salon's founder, David Talbot. The editorial is here.

Posted by: AlphaAnt | October 8, 2008 5:14 PM

TL40: Obama's "bills were footed by Muslim sheiks in Saudi Arabia"? Really? I didn't realize you could just pull "facts" out of your a$$ and expect people to believe you. I think I'll try it, too!

- Bigfoot is building the Bridge to Nowhere. He got the money from appearing in blurry photos in Star magazine.
- John McCain was actually raised by the cult of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
- Sarah Palin was once blessed by a witch doctor and attends a church where they speak in tongues.

Oops, sorry - that last one's actually TRUE!

Posted by: Tracey3345 | October 8, 2008 4:13 PM

I thought this from another forum was great:
"My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."

This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.

Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. ("Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you.")

AIP chairwoman Lynette Clark told me recently that Sarah Palin is her kind of gal. "She's Alaskan to the bone ... she sounds just like Joe Vogler."

So who are these America-haters that the Palins are pallin' around with?

Before his strange murder in 1993, party founder Vogler preached armed insurrection against the United States of America. Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying, "When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion. They think they own [Alaska]. There comes a time when people will choose to die with honor rather than live with dishonor. That time may be coming here. Our goal is ultimate independence by peaceful means under a minimal government fully responsive to the people. I hope we don't have to take human life, but if they go on tramping on our property rights, look out, we're ready to die."

This quote is from "Coming Into the Country," by John McPhee, who traipsed around Alaska's remote gold mining country with Vogler for his 1991 book. The violent-tempered secessionist vowed to McPhee that if any federal official tried to stop him from polluting Alaska's rivers with his earth-moving equipment, he would "run over him with a Cat and turn mosquitoes loose on him while he dies."

Vogler wasn't just a blowhard either. He put his secessionist ideas into action, working to build AIP membership to 20,000 -- an impressive figure by Alaska standards -- and to elect party member Walter Hickel as governor in 1990.

Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.

That's right ... Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.

AIP leaders allege that Vogler, who was murdered that year by a fellow secessionist, was taken out by powerful forces in the U.S. before he could reach his U.N. platform. "The United States government would have been deeply embarrassed," by Vogler's U.N. speech, darkly suggests Clark. "And we can't have that, can we?"

The Republican ticket is working hard this week to make Barack Obama's tenuous connection to graying, '60s revolutionary Bill Ayers a major campaign issue. But the Palins' connection to anti-American extremism is much more central to their political biographies.

Imagine the uproar if Michelle Obama was revealed to have joined a black nationalist party whose founder preached armed secession from the United States and who enlisted the government of Iran in his cause? The Obama campaign would probably not have survived such an explosive revelation. Particularly if Barack Obama himself was videotaped giving the anti-American secessionists his wholehearted support just months ago.

Where's the outrage, Sarah Palin has been asking this week, in her attacks on Obama's fuzzy ties to Ayers? The question is more appropriate when applied to her own disturbing associations.

Posted by: johnp6 | October 8, 2008 3:40 PM

I don't think it matters what side of the aisle you are on, we are all Americans and no one wants this campaign to start degrading racial shouts or fights or people shouting "kill him" in audiences.

Seriously, have we as Americans been reduced to this barbaric nature?

http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/secret-service-investigating-kill-him.html

Posted by: FriendlyFred1 | October 8, 2008 3:36 PM

Not condemning Palin's vicious distortions is the type of thing which started NIXON on his path to the presidency. In 1946 Nixon inspired anyomous calls to constituents of his 5 term congressional opponent JERRY VOOHIS to telephone them and say: "Did you know Voorhis is a communist?" (totally false) He continued this practice in his 1950 Senate campaign declaring his opponent, Helen Gahagen Douglas was "pink right down to her underwear." He was dubbed "tricky Dick" by distributing extracts from her voting record which reflected liberal views, not bothering to include the fact that he voted the same way.

Robert Dorff

Posted by: rdorff | October 8, 2008 2:55 PM

You know, I'm having a more and more difficult time telling the religious extremists in this country from the other religious extremists in other countries.

Posted by: oortcloud7 | October 8, 2008 2:47 PM

It is so obvious to me that Sarah Palin is running for president in 2012. She could care less about John McCain. She looking past "gramps" and trying to solidify a base that will follow her in the years to come. She is frightened of Obama? She terrifies me.

Posted by: baseballmom | October 8, 2008 2:16 PM

Dana,

It's time for the press to take action. The Republican campaign and Sarah Palin are no longer acting in a responsible manner. Inciting a crowd with 'codewords' and other innuendos and lies isn't worthy of being called a presidential campaign event. It is simply and plainly a campaign of hate. The press corp travelling with Sarah Palin should put the campaign on notice that they will not broadcast, publish or otherwise give credence or legitimize these types of activities. There is no obligation for the press to cover hate mongering under some idea of 'fairness' in reporting.

Please encourage the rest of the corp to boycott these tactics. Unless you have full and unfettered access to an event, and the event is not promoting hate, fear and racism; you should turn your backs to it and go home. Report the boycott, not the hate.

Posted by: mikeBY | October 8, 2008 2:15 PM

Gov. Palin is doing an excellent job with her campaign. If the socialist press would do its job then the Gov would not have to do it for them. All the threats of violence from many of the bloggers on these post doesnt scare any true blooded American in the deep south. Our murder rates due to the black community are sky high already, just google it if you dont believe me. We have been lock and loaded for a long time as a result of the unwanton killing and robberies being committed daily. The press is untruthful about much of what they put into print. They have lost all credibility with half of America, if not more. To all obama supporters, enjoy the press's lies while you can, as it wont be long before they will be lieing to you. It is shown daily that they have no journalistic integrity.

used2bdemocrat

Posted by: used2bdemocrat | October 8, 2008 2:07 PM

One of these days some one is going to find an actual comment, literature, quote, or a casual thought, showing that Obama believes or agree's with Bill Ayers. All these accusations and not one video, photograph or audio recording of Obama in the company of his "good ole pal" Bill...

Obama has denounced Rev. Wright, for anti-American statements that no one can say Obama has ever made. Obama has denounced Father Phelger, for racist statements that no one can say Obama has ever made. Obama has stated in his dealings Tony Rezko, that he admits he made a mistake. Yet, no legal agency has found anything, or has charged that Obama had committed any illegal acts. Obama has denounced William Ayers, and no one can prove that Obama holds the same views as Ayers, although Obama was only 6 years old at the time.

Michelle Obama has stated, "for the first time I'm really proud of my country."

Being that there has been a constant call for Obama to explain and/or denounce the actions and words of others, it would only be fitting if that he denounce his wife and demand that she make an apology to Sarah Palin!

Posted by: pallen1157 | October 8, 2008 1:47 PM


"Sarah Painful has effectively sabotaged her future in the Republican Party. Even Republicans can't be stupid enough to run her in 2012." Posted by: roedel74

Yes, they could be that stupid...

Posted by: WesFromStPaul | October 8, 2008 1:30 PM

Yep, the Republican economic plan has always been fascistic, but now they are adding a little Nazism to their quiver.

McCain and Palin must stop encouraging potential attacks on Obama. I think their speeches are going well beyond their First Amendment rights into the realm of incitement of violence.

It is time for those on the left, moderate Democrats and progressives to realize the type of culture war that is being waged against you and your leaders. Leaders like Bobby, Martin and John that were destroyed a generation ago. Don't think these Luddites will go without a real fight or accept the results of an election without at least attempting to steal it.

Be prepared and ready. The Second Amendment has its place. Those on the left should know it is there for your protection, too. You might want to get trained. The fascist Republican Party is encouraging race and class war and they are armed. Don't bring a pencil to a knife fight.

Posted by: HunterGatherer | October 8, 2008 1:12 PM

Sarah Painful has effectively sabotaged her future in the Republican Party. Even Republicans can't be stupid enough to run her in 2012. Hell, even conservative Alaskans need to consider her early retirement at this point.

Posted by: roedel74 | October 8, 2008 1:08 PM

i'm just waiting for Sarah's "macaca" moment

Posted by: chet_brewer | October 8, 2008 11:34 AM

Simply put. "Ken and Barbie" - McCain & Palin should find another job. Barbie needs to get rid of her "good old girl" attitude. As far as Florida is concerned, she was in her element. She wore her "white" clothes to the rally. She left her "hood" in the closet. The Sheriff who introduced her may not have had his "hood" on, but I'm sure it's hanging very prominently in his closet. What were the Republicans thinking of when they selected her. Oh, sorry about that. They weren't thinking!!! If this duo gets into the White House, we should all think about leaving this country.

Posted by: darlenesimmons54 | October 8, 2008 11:14 AM

here is one web site to read and listen to the remarks yourself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-does-nothing-as-cr_n_132366.html

Posted by: sandrafw | October 8, 2008 10:55 AM

I feel that Gov. Palin is skating a very thin line with many of her comments about Sen. Obama. She needs to be very careful that her words will not ignite racial hate towards Sen. Obama. Her words could have consequences if a voter took her comments literal and felt the need to take action. She needs to be very careful...I feel that what she is doing is dangerous.

Posted by: CNN360 | October 8, 2008 10:08 AM

tampalawyer, you are a dumb schmuck. How many people here have responded to you re hearing "Kill him" on the newcasts. I also did and I heard it on different news casts/different stations.

dope.

Posted by: itsagreatday1 | October 8, 2008 9:21 AM

Sarah Palin is quite simply a twit with the ability to stir up a mob's worst instincts. Some one above used the word lynching and I find that to be correct. Republican supporters posting here are following the lead of their leaders who display no leadership and who have no solutions to the emergent issues of the day, the most important being the nation's economic melt down. We are in Herbert Hoover land now and when the rethuglicans need a leader to point to in these circumstances, they point to FDR, Truman or Kennedy, each one of whom loathed rethuglicans and everything they stood for. It is ludicrous. Give John McCain credit though, last evening he did speak of his "hero" Ronald Reagan. Well, here it is America the Reagans, who knew and liked McCain's first wife, could not stand McCain after he savagely divorced her. They could not stand to have him around. A foot soldier in the Reagan revolution he may have been but the general of that revolution viewed him as a private only good enough for KP. McCain is a liar and a man without honor and his campaign tactics show us his true colors.

VOTE DEMOCRAT IN NOVEMBER

Posted by: robertmerry | October 8, 2008 8:30 AM

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.

The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle.'


Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was. The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle.' The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.

'You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with.'

Posted by: ajon1600 | October 8, 2008 8:30 AM

Politicians play Russian roulette with the lives of US citizens every day that they deliberately fail to fulfill their Constitutional duty to protect the states from invasion. Sadly, too many citizens have paid the ultimate price for this gamble. The safety and well-being of these politicians deserves as much sympathy as they have displayed to that of their constituents.

Posted by: onedude | October 8, 2008 4:42 AM

This is grossly unfair for McCain and Palin. McCain and Palin are not racist just because their supporters are. This is indeed GUILT-BY-ASSOCIATION, something that McCain-Palin campaign will never do, right?

(Actually, this is CHARACTER LYNCHING. The only thing missing is a hangman's knot being thrown in the stage.)

Posted by: jameshermogenes | October 8, 2008 4:23 AM

I saw on a Jacksonville, FL web forum where one guy did say he wanted to kill Obama, or see someone else do it, that it would be the "patriotic" thing to do. The rest of the people on the board called him out for being a hate-monger and a nutcase. If anything happens to Obama, he would be a suspect. I'd be happy to point him out to the authorities.

Posted by: Emily223 | October 8, 2008 4:01 AM

This is POLITICAL LYNCHING!

Can somebody in the MEDIA call this as it is! Its just a step away from the actual lynching to happen. This is dangerous and highly irresponsible for McCain and Palin. This might have somebody end up dead. These two are desperately doing everything in order to win even to the extent of inciting assassination and fomenting hatred! People with even a hint of conscience in them should stop this!!!

Posted by: jameshermogenes | October 8, 2008 3:58 AM

Being a religious woman, I am certain Sarah Palin will appreciate a prayer on her behalf. So:

Ms. Palin, may God multiply for you all that you desire for Barack Obama.

Posted by: JM32 | October 8, 2008 3:53 AM

What do you expect from a DINGBAT!! And those people who were at that rally fall in the same catagory as ARCHIE & EDITH BUNKER AKA MC CAINE & PALIN!!!!

Posted by: cjanee | October 7, 2008 11:25 PM

Chairman Mao also pitted the wholesome rural peasant against the evil corrupt urban intellectual. He killed 'em too. Millions of 'em. The Nazi tone of Palin's rally is inevitable. Give the Repugs enough rope and they'll hang themselves. There is some good from all this happening - So many of us are finally realizing that the slogan "Democracy is not a spectator sport" is much more than a pithy phrase.

Posted by: banjovi | October 7, 2008 10:11 PM

What about Palin's association with the Alaskan Independence Party?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

The AIP, founded by Joe Vogler. A anti-American secessionist. Who is on record saying the following, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Seriously? She thinks it's ok to be giving them her thumbs up?

Posted by: ericmoritz | October 7, 2008 9:02 PM

Obama's up in Florida.

Posted by: thabacktwister | October 7, 2008 8:54 PM

The three co-authors of Chicago's winning Annenberg Challenge $49.2 million grant proposal were:[18][19]

WILLIAM AYERS, associate professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago; co-director of the Small Schools Workshop; co-director of the Chicago Forum for School Change—an affiliate of the Coalition of Essential Schools;[20] chairman of the Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs) coalition;[21][22] former Chicago assistant deputy mayor for education (1989–1990);[22] brother of John Ayers, executive director (1994–2004) of Leadership for Quality Education (an affiliate of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago) and former associate director (1987–1994) of the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago; son of Thomas Ayers, former president (1964–1980), chairman and CEO (1973–1980) of Commonwealth Edison and former vice president (1980) of the Chicago School Board

Anne Hallett, executive director and founder of the Cross-City Campaign for Urban School Reform; former executive director of the Wieboldt Foundation (1986–1993); former executive director of the Citizens Education Center in Seattle (1983–1986); former executive director and founder of the Chicago Panel on School Policy (1982–1983); former chair, founder, and chief lobbyist for Citizens for Fair School Funding in Seattle (1976–1982)

Warren Chapman, senior program officer for education at the Joyce Foundation; former state coordinator at the Illinois State Board of Education for the Illinois Alliance of Essential Schools—a regional center of the Coalition of Essential Schools (1986–1992)
_____________

WOW - GIVING ALL THAT MONEY TO A "DOMESTIC TERRORIST" - This man has turned out finer than most of the illiterates posting on this forum. Go spew your bigotry and racism at one of those fine McNasty or Trash Palin rallies with your own ill-educated kind.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 7, 2008 8:35 PM

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) was a Chicago public school reform project from 1995 to 2001 that worked with half of Chicago's public schools and was funded by a $49.2 million, 2-to-1 matching challenge grant over five years from the Annenberg Foundation . The grant was contingent on being matched by $49.2 million in private donations and $49.2 million in public money.[1] The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was one of 18 locally designed Annenberg Challenge project sites that received $387 million over five years as part of Walter Annenberg's gift of $500 million over five years to support public school reform. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge helped create a successor organization, the Chicago Public Education Fund (CPEF), committing $2 million in June 1998 as the first donor to Chicago's first community foundation for education.

In the 1990s, billionaire former ambassador Walter Annenberg was the United States' most generous living philanthropist. By 1998, Annenberg had given away more than $2 billion and the assets of the Annenberg Foundation he had established in June 1989 with $1 billion had grown to $3 billion and ranked as the 12th largest in the U.S.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 7, 2008 8:30 PM

runmon, your numbers are waaaaay out of date. Mz. Palin's numbers are plummeting in Alaska, brought about by the troopergate investigation, abuse of power scandals, using at least 3 private email accounts for government business, and the list gets added to EVERY day. Her abuse of power is really coming to light now. The most recent rallies in Anchorage had a turnout of 300 for her and 1500 for Obama. Same held true for Juneau and Fairbanks. You might want to immerse yourself in the corruption that has been Alaskan politics over the years. Mz Palin is just one more unscrupulous power-hungry ruthless ego.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 7, 2008 8:24 PM

Obama is friends with William Ayers Weathermen Underground bomber responsible for 12 bombings. From 1987 Obama worked with Ayers at The Developing Communities Project, at The Woods Fund and at The Annenberg Challenge. At the Challenge their purpose was to radically change school education in Chicago. From 1995-1999 Obama was Chairman of the Annenberg Challenge. He resigned as Chairman in 1999 but remained on the board until it dissolved in 2002.

According to the Consortium of Chicago School Research (CCSR), the Challenge was viewed a failure because “it did not achieve its goal of improvement in student academic achievement and nonacademic outcomes.” Plus, it wasted millions of dollars and public service employees’ time. The Challenge spent $150 million dollars. Documents and board minutes are missing and a large chunk of the money cannot be accounted for. This is Obama’s only leadership experience.

Posted by: runmon | October 7, 2008 7:39 PM

When will the news media investigate Joe Biden as thoroughly as Palin?

When will Biden’s record in Congress and personal history appear on the front pages and the lead story on TV news networks?

When will the news media investigate Obama as thoroughly as Palin?

When will the news media send lawyers, reporters, and staff to Chicago and Delaware as they have to Alaska?

In 2008 America saw the complete collapse of non-partisan journalism.

Posted by: runmon | October 7, 2008 7:34 PM

Gov. Palin has the highest approval rating of all Governors, 2007 its 89%, 2008 its 82%.
She is the chief executive of a state with 24,400 employees, 35,500 local government employees, and 3,800 tribal government employees.
She is the only person running with executive experience.
Alaska’s revenues doubled to $10 billion in 2008.
She has fought corruption in both political parties.
She defeated republican governor Murkowski in the primaries and former democratic governor Tony Knowles in the general election.
Her expenses as Governor are 80% less than former Gov. Murkowski.
Her first legislative action was bipartisan ethics reform signed into law July 2007.
She fought the oil company executives and got them to drill on their leases.
She returned the state gasoline taxes back to the people. They receive a check every year.
She has reduced state spending by $240 million in 2007 and by $290 million in 2008.
She has reduced Alaska’s ear marks from 66 to 31.
She eliminated many excessive fees and licenses on small businesses,
She has a courageous can do spirit and has accomplished a lot.

Has your Governor return state gasoline taxes back to you?
Has your Governor lowered property taxes?
Has your Governor reduced state spending every year he/she has been in office?
Is your Governor’s expenses 80% lower than his/her predecessor?

Posted by: runmon | October 7, 2008 7:31 PM

I was personally horrified when I heard Palin whipping up the crowds to the point someone was yelling, "kill him." I could not believe that Republicans have become like some Nazi party. Palin should have stopped everything and tell that person that this is not what America is about. He should have been removed from the crowd.
McCain is using her to bring out the worst racism. The ad with the bully Nazi policeman calling Obama a terrorist. I hold her and her party personally responsible if anything happens to Obama.

Posted by: Dipsy | October 7, 2008 7:18 PM

To those who say there is a clip or clips or that it was on the news, please give me the link and, most certainly, saramee, tell me the station/network so I can see it on a news program for myself. Although no one yet has answered the questions of whether the guy was referring to Ayers or Obama or why the Secret Service didn't arrest the guy [it would have happened in a heartbeat, no hesitation at all had it been audible to the protection detail], I'm open-minded and would simply like to hear it for myself. By the way, yesterday I Googled [News] for "kill him" and there was nothing about a Palin rally and someone making that statement.

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 7, 2008 6:28 PM

I saw the Pallin rally live on TV. I was disturbed for the rest of the day, thoughts of pre Nazi Germany running through my mind at the memory of that big, burly shaved head sheriff in his uniform inciting the mob and her manic exhortations. Then, I saw it replayed on Rachel Maddow Show, and she heard it, too, so it confirmed to me that I actually heard it, after all. I came to my computer and sent an email to the FBI, to the House Minority Leader, to my 2 US Republican Senators, the 2 US House Reps, the DNC, and, I forget to who else. Maybe you will send a message as well. It is wrong on many counts, including using contributions to a federal election to incite violence; a public employee politicizing in uniform inciting hatred. Today, you have these surrogates on TV as if there is nothing for which to be ashamed. Someone needs to tell them to their face.

Posted by: nana4 | October 7, 2008 6:16 PM

The McCain Palin ticket has reached an all-time low. Lower than the "low road." Lower than bottom-feeders. Lower than the lowest common denominator.

Because even the lowest common denominator repudiates the idea of killing presidential candidates. Yet McCain said nothing when someone in the audience yelled "Traitor!" about Obama. And Palin said nothing when someone in her audience yelled "Kill him!"

If I gave a speech castigating McCain, and someone yelled one of those words, I'd have stopped COLD. Then I'd have pointed out the person to security. And followed up with a lesson to the audience about the basics of civilization, the difference between dislike and hate, and a few reminders about our founding fathers and our religions, BOTH of which held human life as sacred.

I'd have verbally peeled the skin of anyone in that audience who shared the sentiments of anyone yelling those things about Obama, or any other human being.

All of this shows that the McCain/Palin ticket has taken COMPLETE LEAVE of their basic reverence for human life. This, despite being (supposedly) practicing Christians. By not responding with fierce denunciation, these people CONDONED the sentiments being yelled at them. It was their admission that they want Obama DEAD.

Is THIS what our Christian churches are spewing forth among us these days?

No wonder McCain couldn't look Obama in the eye during the last debate. He fully intended to incite his audiences to hate Obama enough so that some nutjob among them would try to "bump Obama off." Looking at Obama would seem, to McCain, like looking at a dead man.

If someone takes a potshot at Obama, whether it hits or misses, the American public will aim its collective rage directly at McCain and Palin.

And that rage will be simply...TOWERING.

If the GOP is at ALL responsible, if it has retained a shred of civility, they will remove both these people from the ticket without delay, and choose two other candidates - sane ones. If they do not, they admit, by omission, their approval of all this.

The Secret Service is supposed to protect our candidates, but we have a neocon president who, himself, might like for Obama to "just go away." If so, he might "select" the people assigned to Obama for attitudes that Mr. Obama would not be likely to appreciate. If so, and if harm comes to Obama because the Secret Service just didn't "happen" to be on the alert, We the People will pursue this until the perps are severely punished.

Inciting crowds to assassinate Obama was going too far. They know that some people in the audience will feel inspired to knock off Obama; they were practically asking the audience who among them would volunteer for this supreme act of patriotism. They GOT the kind of murderous reaction they had hoped for. Now they'd better be prepared to EAT the consequences. Which will SURELY come their way if harm comes to Obama - or even an attempt is made.

Doesn't their behavior remind you of something? Sort of like recruiting a suicide bomber in Iraq? It's done using similar methods.

They were asking, "Who shall rid me of this meddlesome Obama?" Incitement to assassination. And by no means a new political wrinkle.

Those who say McCain and Palin would be dangerous for America are wrong.

Because they already ARE.

Posted by: faster | October 7, 2008 6:05 PM

WHAT GOES UP WILL COME DOWN.Sarah Palin is on the high road right now...she is in demand on pop tv shows like entertainment tonight, and the newspapers are filled with her.What Sarah doesn't realize,being as ignorant as she is, is that when the democratics win this election, her star will fade as quickly as it was lit.When that happens, all the hate and venom that she has put out there will come back to bite her in the a--!

Posted by: puredemo | October 7, 2008 6:03 PM

I lived through the election of Harold Washington as the first black mayor of Chicago in 1983. It was a rough and ugly process - much worse than anything that I've seen in this presidential campaign so far. While all these tactics are despicable they are just part of a vetting process. We need to flush all this racism through the pipes to get to the other side. Keep the faith, the tide is turning - Mr. Obama will be elected!

Posted by: DalyPlaza | October 7, 2008 4:20 PM

palin and her husband have had ties to the right wing secessionist group in Alaska. McCain has had links to various sleazy organizations including apologists for the Contras. Yet, Milbank is too lazy to mention them. Yes, we see what shrill, hate mongering campaign McCain & pailin, have but the Ayers smear gets mentioned without "balance". Lazy, simplistic reporting.

Posted by: thebuckguy | October 7, 2008 4:16 PM

I could not believe that I just saw a Lee County Sheriff, Mike Scott, in full uniform behave in such a bigotted & racist manner. He was inciting the crowd & so is Sarah Palin. Mike Scott should be fired (hopefully the Government will take action because of violation of the Hatch act) & Sarah Palin should be muzzled. She has shown her true character & her actions show that this IS what happened with those in Alaska who did not agree with her. The Republicans are going WAY too far and it will hurt them in the end! Obama has shown much more class!

Posted by: INDem | October 7, 2008 3:55 PM

I have never been more ashamed of my country than today.
I thought we had grown wiser.

Sadly we have not. Beware - this is the kind of frenzy that started pogroms.

This the type of hate that sparked lynchings and mob rule.

I hope that people see where this is going and put a stop to it in the voting booth.

Posted by: DOlivervelez | October 7, 2008 3:11 PM

"And I would be willing to bet I am more educated than you."

I'll take a piece of that action. An educated man does not communicate by repeating, "libs, libs, libs," over and over again.

I know you're upset over the fact that North Carolina is going to be blue for the first time since 1976 (and living in Charlotte, I intend to assist in that cause), but don't let your imagination run wild over it.

Posted by: CompulsiveCollector | October 7, 2008 3:08 PM

stwendeler,

I'll believe a reporter's first hand account before I believe some doctored video on YouTube!
You're the one who needs to challenge his sources.

Posted by: popeye2 | October 7, 2008 2:03 PM

Hey PhilaMike, I most certainly do. And I would be willing to bet I am more educated than you.

This article is false. I have seen every available clip from independent sites and there is no mention of 'kill him'. This article is simply to incite fear and terror to all the leftwing libs.

It's amazing how gullable and naive you libs are!!! And you are the one's that are supposed to be 'more educated'!!! It's more like brainwashed from years of being professional students.

I challenge all you libs to turn down NPR, turn off msnbc, don't read the lib blogs, throw away your 'kill bush' propaganda, and just think. Put all the lib rhetoric aside for once. Think about the facts!! Just think...it can be an incredible thing sometimes!!

Posted by: carolinanc2002 | October 7, 2008 1:49 PM

Palin is pushing, violence and attempting to cause an uprise amongst different ethnic groups. I smell the making of another Civil War... the idiot that yelled out "kill him." Would be the first hit on my list. She better watch herself as should her audience...threats of death or violence doesn't sit well with most Americans, especially not when they are aimed at the first man of color to run for the position of Commander-in-Chief...

Posted by: empoweryourmind | October 7, 2008 1:42 PM

The first poster said, 'Does anyone believe that if McCain had similar ties to radical groups and persons that he would get the pass that Obama does? '

Yes, someone does. Me.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iran_contra

Posted by: sssor | October 7, 2008 1:36 PM

I saw the clip last night on the news and clearly heard a man yell "Kill him!". I was astonished and disgusted that this so called "Christian" woman would incite a crowd to such hatred.

She is detestable. She ignorant, she's arrogant and she's mean-spirtied.

And it's really a pity that McCain has sunk so low. I used to admire him. Now I can barely stand to look at him or listen to him talk. He sounds like a whiney, snot-nosed brat.

If these two make it to the Oval Office then God help us all.

Posted by: Saramee | October 7, 2008 1:25 PM

History is repeating itself...this country was built on racism and it'll never go away. This country is a mess and the rest of the world is just shaking their heads. My only hope is that some racist, right-wing nut doesn't try to harm Obama. This country would go into civil war. I think that's what Republicans want, since they love war so much anyway.

Posted by: joieluck | October 7, 2008 1:25 PM

This country is digressing into the evil past of the pre 60's when it comes to race.
As far as Sarah Palin goes, look up the definition of "femme fatale".
I'd be afraid if I were McCain that she may try to snuff him if they are elected!

Posted by: popeye2 | October 7, 2008 1:15 PM

I don't get the big deal with this redneck, trailer living, shoot and kill everything that I don't like woman that knows noting. Her own party dosen't even want her to talk to reporters because they are afraid that she will say something that will jeopardize their campaign.. McCain/Palin have nothing else to go for and now they have resorted to slinging mud and pulling at every last straw. McCain is a POW, if he were any good he wouldn't have been a POW but his arrogant, self-centered, spoild and I have to have my way self was captured. All this talk of winning the war needs to quit. The soulders need to come home and leave thoes people alone. The stock markets are going downhill and who is going to get the banks out of trouble??? The Tax payers. The only people who are going to get breaks in this deal if McCain/Palin win is people like them. And the everyday working class, struggling to make ends meet are going to have an even harder way to go with them in office. The billionaires should be the ones getting these finical instutions out of the red, not the people who go to work everyday, while the workload increases and the paychecks decrease... We need a new way, and OBAMA is the way.

Posted by: NOTime1 | October 7, 2008 12:53 PM

Will the Washington Post please report on the investigation of the death threat against Senator Obama?

Did the Secret Service arrest him on the spot? Why not? They take death threats seriously, don't they?

Posted by: jmcgill1 | October 7, 2008 12:46 PM

to tampalawyer....

Yes the kill him was said and it was in reference to Obama....the video is available in several places on the web; I have seen it.
Personally, I believe that anyone running for higher office who instigates this type of hate and venom should be held accountable under federal law. And Palin, as displayed in the video, clearly heard and enjoyed the remark.
This behavior is digusting. May she burn in hell for what she is doing to America!

Posted by: easysoul | October 7, 2008 12:45 PM

Why is this election going this way . its bad to know Sara Palin will allow someone to say kill Obama and dont stop him or even say sir your wrong, America is not like that, and have that man locked up and question . am sorry Obama shoud pull out if its going to be this way . God bless America .

Posted by: keith12 | October 7, 2008 12:40 PM

Palin is such a hypocrite for years she was involved with a Radical Alaskan secessionist party, the AKIP. Their founder said 'The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government' and was killed in a plastic explosives deal gone bad.

Read An Interview With the AKIP Chairman on Palin
http://newsone.blackplanet.com/elections/akip-interview-on-palin/

Posted by: cganemccalla | October 7, 2008 12:24 PM

Ok -- I now know that many of the folks here are beyond impressionable or are so hopelessly biased that they have no interest in the facts. The main blogger, Dana Milbak, said he heard someone say "kill him" when Palin brought up Ayers at yesterday's rally in Clearwater. Again, we don't know if the idiot, if it occurred at all, was a Palin supporter [as stated by several bloggers], and we don't know if he was overheard by anyone other than Milbank. We certainly don't know if Palin even heard it or acknowledged it at the rally of 4,500 in Coachman Park so we can't say she endorsed it or was obligated to denounce it. We do know that Palin [and Biden, Obama and McCain] now have Secret Service details 24/7 who would be close enough to Palin to hear anything she hears. Just like it is a crime to joke about a bomb on a plane or in front of TSA, yelling "kill him" at yesterday's rally would get you an overnight stay at the Tampa federal lock-up and a first appearance before a U.S. Magistrate Judge this morning. I opened my Tampa Tribune this morning strongly suspecting this was a bogus report, and there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this alleged remark. In fact, it's not reported anywhere other than in this blog. Doesn't that make any of you -- especially ones that now say Palin incited or encouraged the remark and that it was directed at Obama, blah, blah, blah -- pause for a second to question whether it really occurred? Be as partisan as you like, but be accurate [and it goes for both sides].

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 7, 2008 12:21 PM

It is the whining about gov't regulation that has led to our current economic hardship. It is whining about gov't being in the way that wrecked FEMA's ability to handle Katrina and I'm not sure Ike is turning out too well either. Whining about terrorists does njot change the fact that it is impossible to have a war against them and wars never solve terrorism to begin with. Whining about Rev Wright doesn't change the fact that he is right about lots of black issues in this country that we ignore but blacks cannot ignore so easily. It also doesn't change the fact that the angelic pitbbull evangelicals are the most dangerous force to our freedom right now. I would also submit that beginning with Reagan the leveraged buyout artist began ruining our business environment by forcing companies to take on debt rather than assets to keep them from being devoured by the vulture capitalists. And if you trust T. Boone Pickens you haven't looked at his history.

Posted by: cgillard | October 7, 2008 12:21 PM

ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO SARAH PALIN IS THAT IT'S SO OLD HEARING YOU ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT SOCCER MOM, WHAT ABOUT FOOTBALL MOMS, BASESBALL MOMS, MILTARY MOMS, OR JUST MOM'S. WHAT MAKES YOU BEING A SOCCER MOM SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE REST OF MOMS. YOUR NOT!!!! YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO ALL WOMEN TRYING TO BE SOMETHING YOUR NOT AND YOU CAN'T EVEN TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN HOUSEHOLD LET ALONE TRY TO RUN OUR COUNTRY. THE PICTURES OF YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTERS GOING AROUND ARE NOTHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT LET ALONE A TEENAGE DAUGHTER THAT IS PREGNANT AND YOU CAN'T ADMIT WHO THE REAL FATHER IS. NO THANKS WE DON'T NEED SOMEONE LIKE YOU RUNNING OUR COUNTRY.
I'M ALL FOR OBAMA AND THE ONE WHO SAID "KILL HIM" IS VERY IGNORANT LETS SEE YOU SAYING THAT BEHIND BARS. PEOPLE LIKE YOU NEED TO BE PUT AWAY FOR LIFE, AND NEVER BE LOOKED AT AGAIN. WHEN HE DOES MAKES IT TO BE THE PRESIDENT HE WILL MAKE OUR COUNTRY HELL OF ALOT BETTER THAN IT HAS FOR THE PAST 8YRS.

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!! WE NEED CHANGE NOW AND NOT PEOPLE LIKE MCCAIN & PALIN WHOM DO NOTHING BUT WANT TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY IN WORSE SHAPE THAN IT ALREADY IS

Posted by: dla511 | October 7, 2008 12:20 PM

I suspect the Secret Service picked that guy up for questioning afterward. That's their job, after all.

Posted by: lordtwang | October 7, 2008 12:01 PM

Since I haven't seen it reported anywhere, I assume she didn't blink at the "Kill him!" remark. Nor have I seen anywhere that the McCain-Palin campaign has denounced that sort of response. Is this their new strategy, then - incite their supporters to violence?

Chilling.

Posted by: krae-kartoons | October 7, 2008 11:53 AM

ALL I HAVE TO SAY SARAH PALIN IS A DISGRACE TO ALL WOMEN TRYING TO BE PRESIDENT BECAUSE SHE SO STUPID!!! AND IM ROCKIN WITH OBAMA AND THE DUMB ASS WHO SAID "KILL HIM" IS VERY IGNORANT AND WHEN HE DOES MAKES IT TO BE THE PRESIDENT HE COULD JUST PUT HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH

OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!! WE WANT CHANGE NOT OLD MEN ABOUT TO ROLL OVER AND DIE AND PEOPLE LIKE SARAH PALIN WHO JUST NEED TO GO AND DO WHAT SHE DO BEST WHICH IS GO BACK TO ALASKA AND BE THE GOVERNOR LOL REPUBLICANS ARE SUCH FOOLS!!!

Posted by: toya_8218 | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM

Palin is not PRO-LIFE when she condones someone wishing death upon a father of two young daughters and a wife. Also anyone who could hide a pregnancy for 7 months denotes a sneaky character. Palin is just plain and uneventful in my opinion. Her only way to arouse a crowd is to put another down, what happened to talking about what she will do for the country as VP? No disrespect but she needs to take care of her immediate household before making decisions for our households and our country. NEXT!!!

Posted by: borntomotivate | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM

Since I haven't seen it reported anywhere, I assume she didn't blink at the "Kill him!" remark. Nor have I seen anywhere that the McCain-Palin campaign has denounced that sort of response. Is this their new strategy, then - incite their supporters to violence?

Chilling.

Posted by: krae-kartoons | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM

Glad you've figured out the cut and paste function, RobT1.

By the way, "the media not talking about these people" is about the dumbest article in history considering Palin is too much of a simpleton to even hold a PRESS CONFERENCE. Incredible - the McCain campaign doesn't think Palin can withstand questioning from reporters, but they think she can be president in a time of war and economic crisis.

Do the majority of Americans think this is true? NO.....and McCain is going to get crushed in this election as a result. Guess you'll have to make these dopey arguments elsewhere...

Posted by: chop1 | October 7, 2008 11:44 AM

can somebody tell me what economy obama has ever worked on? besides his own campain- lol.. this guy has zero experince in manageing anything.. can you sleep at night knowing that your pres hasnt delt with any kind of issues.(no kind).. GOV. palin is a peoples person and a real leader, with real reform under her belt. the only CHANGE obama will give us is a lighter wallet by taxin us to death-- does anybody know of any dem. that didnt raise taxes?

Posted by: darin_holmes | October 7, 2008 11:42 AM

All this whining about Sarah Palin's comments on Bill Ayers, domestic terrorist, is funny. The only thing I find wrong about it is that the McCain campaingn didn't bring it up sooner. They should also talk about Rev. Wright, Antoin Rezco and Father Michael Pfleger. His association with all these idiots has direct bearing on his judgement or lack thereof and fiteness for the office of the Presidency. The media's not going to talk about these people so the McCain campaign has to. Does anyone believe that if McCain had similar ties to radical groups and persons that he would get the pass that Obama does? Is it negative campainging to talk about these associations, sure, but so what. Any contrast a canidate makes to his opponent can be considered negative. Campaings are rough and if you can't take it don't run. Poor Obama, he might get his white robe dirty.

Posted by: RobT1 | October 7, 2008 11:30 AM

Here's irony for ya...

By continuing her speech after an arguably incited by her crowd member clearly shouted out that a presidential candidate should be killed, Palin herself associated w/ someone who proposed what would constitute a domestic terrorist act.

Of course, condemning her for the man's comments is laughable. But really no more so than her argument that Obama 'pals' around w/ terrorists because a former one sat on the same board of directors with him for a community organization.

Posted by: jefro_das | October 7, 2008 11:26 AM

What an abominable scumbag this woman is. Palin - who won't even do a press conference like every other VP candidate in history, whose husband is a secessionist, who has been a demonstrable liar and fraud throughout the last 6 weeks - has the temerity to call another presidential candidate a terrorist who hates his country. Are you kidding me? Does she think we are this stupid?

Yes - she does. Yet another reason why the Republican party is going down in flames and the American people are going to throw these bums out this election. Senate dominance, House dominance, and a new Dem president. Bush / McCain / Palin lies and smears have consequences - it's time for them to get ready to reap what they've sown come election time...

Posted by: chop1 | October 7, 2008 11:26 AM

can somebody tell me what economy obama has ever worked on? besides his own campain- lol.. this guy has zero experince in manageing anything.. can you sleep at night knowing that your pres hasnt delt with any kind of issues.(no kind).. GOV. palin is a peoples person and a real leader, with real reform under her belt.

Posted by: darin_holmes | October 7, 2008 11:18 AM

She's not only shrill and insipid, when she stirs a crowd into calling for the death of her opponent...she and her hero candidate are dangerous.

Posted by: gardenerncaliornia | October 7, 2008 11:07 AM

All this whining about Sarah Palin's comments on Bill Ayers, domestic terrorist, is funny. The only thing I find wrong about it is that the McCain campaingn didn't bring it up sooner. They should also talk about Rev. Wright, Antoin Rezco and Father Michael Pfleger. His association with all these idiots has direct bearing on his judgement or lack thereof and fiteness for the office of the Presidency. The media's not going to talk about these people so the McCain campaign has to. Does anyone believe that if McCain had similar ties to radical groups and persons that he would get the pass that Obama does? Is it negative campainging to talk about these associations, sure, but so what. Any contrast a canidate makes to his opponent can be considered negative. Campaings are rough and if you can't take it don't run. Poor Obama, he might get his white robe dirty.

Posted by: RobT1 | October 7, 2008 11:01 AM

All this whining about Sarah Palin's comments on Bill Ayers, domestic terrorist, is funny. The only thing I find wrong about it is that the McCain campaingn didn't bring it up sooner. They should also talk about Rev. Wright, Antoin Rezco and Father Michael Pfleger. His association with all these idiots has direct bearing on his judgement or lack thereof and fiteness for the office of the Presidency. The media's not going to talk about these people so the McCain campaign has to. Does anyone believe that if McCain had similar ties to radical groups and persons that he would get the pass that Obama does? Is it negative campainging to talk about these associations, sure, but so what. Any contrast a canidate makes to his opponent can be considered negative. Campaings are rough and if you can't take it don't run. Poor Obama, he might get his white robe dirty.

Posted by: RobT1 | October 7, 2008 11:01 AM

To Sarah Palin: If you keep advocating your crowd, to say "Kill Obama, kill the terrorist". My dear, not only you will loose this election, but you will destroy your career. This is utterly VILE behavior.- Signed an Independent voter from PA

Posted by: talexander748 | October 7, 2008 10:55 AM

No wonder she didn't answer the question about her President dying in office during the debate.

But her campaign certainly has their eye on assassinating their competition.

The person that shouted that should be now arrested and held indefinitely at Guantanemo. Homeland Security should have closed that venue down, and the person incited the hate (Palin) should have been arrested.

These aren't the people I want to see in power in this country.

Posted by: gardenerncaliornia | October 7, 2008 10:54 AM

HEY HOW ABOUT THAT MCCAIN HEALTHCARE PLAN, HE WANTS WORKERS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY TO PAY TAXES ON THEIR HEALTHCARE PREMIUMS, WHICH ON AVG ARE 12,000 PER YEAR, AND HE OFFERS A SMALL TAX CREDIT OF 5,000 FOR FAMILIES, BUT THAT MONEY GOES TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY, NOT TO YOUR POCKET.

Posted by: mjtaylor22 | October 7, 2008 10:54 AM

"kILL hIM" WHAT HORRIBLE MESSAGES MUST THIS CAMPAIGN BE DELIVERING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO KILL ANOTHER AMERICAN WHO WANTS TO LEAD OUR NATION.
IT IS SO SAD THAT THEY HAVE CALLED OBAMA EVERYHTING EXCEPT THE "N" WORD WHEN THAT IS ALL THEY REALLY MEAN, AND MCCAIN FALIN WANT TOT COMPLAIN ABOut NEGATIVITY. NO ONE AT OBAMA'S CAMP HAS CALLED MCCAIN A TERRORIST, NOR PALIN, THOUGH PALIN WANTED ALASKA TO SPLIT OFF ROM THE US AND MCAIN HAS USED HIS POSITION TO INFLUENCE REGULATORS TO LAY OFF HIS FRIEND

Posted by: mjtaylor22 | October 7, 2008 10:49 AM

I am sorry to say this, Sarah Palin, but you are really out of touch with reality. If you are really that "fearful", go back to Alaska --- if people there still want you to be their governor after your own very scary tactics used to block the Troopergate investigation.

Posted by: ChrisL1 | October 7, 2008 10:44 AM

"I am just so fearful that this is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America..."

There are very few people who see america the way she does... most people prefer to remain in the real world.

Posted by: rainlion@yahoo.com | October 7, 2008 10:13 AM

These creeps are out for blood!

We will not stand by and have another assassination of our candidate.
Where is the secret service in all this?
Why aren't they doing their job,protecting the candidates,investigating this incident,hauling this potential murderer in for threatening the presidential candidate?
This sickens me to think we have slipped so far down the rat hole that a vice-presidential candidate would not say anything about such a statement from a supporter.
Barack,if you need a body guard,I'll take the job,free of charge.

Posted by: dougo1126 | October 7, 2008 10:10 AM

"Kill him"??
Surely that guy is sitting in a secret service detention room this morning.

Posted by: tmfaux | October 7, 2008 9:58 AM

"But for a ticket that wants to talk about change and looking into the future, there's just too much finger-pointing backwards to ever make us believe that that's where you're going."
--Sarah Palin, October 3, at her speech against -- er, debate with -- Joe Biden

PALIN: as HYPOCRITICAL as she is ignorant.

Posted by: szang@sbgnet.com | October 7, 2008 9:57 AM

"But for a ticket that wants to talk about change and looking into the future, there's just too much finger-pointing backwards to ever make us believe that that's where you're going."
--Sarah Palin, October 3, at her speech against -- er, debate with -- Joe Biden

PALIN: as HYPOCRITICAL as she is ignorant.

Posted by: szang@sbgnet.com | October 7, 2008 9:52 AM

"But for a ticket that wants to talk about change and looking into the future, there's just too much finger-pointing backwards to ever make us believe that that's where you're going."
--Sarah Palin, October 3, at her speech against -- er, debate with -- Joe Biden

PALIN: as HYPOCRITICAL as she is ignorant.

Posted by: szang@sbgnet.com | October 7, 2008 9:48 AM

"But for a ticket that wants to talk about change and looking into the future, there's just too much finger-pointing backwards to ever make us believe that that's where you're going."
--Sarah Palin, October 3, at her speech against -- er, debate with -- Joe Biden

PALIN: as HYPOCRITICAL as she is ignorant.

Posted by: szang@sbgnet.com | October 7, 2008 9:46 AM

I think that the McCain campaign is getting very desperate. The one thing Republicans can do to get votes is scare people. That's what they are trying to do here. They figure that if they can't win on the issues they will just scare people into voting for them. Now is this putting "Country First" by insulting Americans intelligence and trying to manipulate us into voting for them. I am very disappointed in John McCain. I thought he was going to run a different kind of campaign at least that is what he said. I think Palin is the one we should fear....do we really need a pitbull running around the White House?

Posted by: lmzbrd | October 7, 2008 9:42 AM

I fully expect a condemnation this afternoon from the McCain Camp--rather timely, huh? Links were posted to both last night. Their silence is deafening.

Posted by: mavsreader | October 7, 2008 9:29 AM

There is a reason why McCain Adviser says that if we "talk about the Economy, we will lose!" That is because they have no good ideas on the economy for the Middle Class. Their ideas and solutions only benefit the rich, well-off and well-connected!

A Prayer for Barack...........Beautiful!

http://vmm918.dailykos.com/

Five Myths of McCain (in Video)!

http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaffairs/index.php/2008/10/03/five-myths-about-john-mccain/
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McCain Fudges HIs Navey Record

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/10/mccain_fudges_his_navy_record.html
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China Bush/McCainStyle: “We have been taught to fear and despise China as a communist threat. Simultaneously, our political leaders and the media perpetually preach the benefits of capitalism. Meanwhile the most clear and present threat from China is their capitalism. Made in China is the most published modern phrase. By investing the proceeds of their national productivity they have become the kings of capitalism and are now the primary source of goods worldwide. It is not their pretended politics of communism that we should be concerned about. We already have that here. We have been outsourced, out produced and our intellectual property is infringed, duplicated and returned to our shores by the containership load.” The Creditory System, Hari Heath

Posted by: dsoulplane | October 7, 2008 9:12 AM

To the editors:

You must, must demand an anwser to these two questions:

1. Was the man removed from the event? If not, why not?

2. Was the secret service notified? If not, why not?

If not, there is no reason for your continued existence. Remember, they can turn on you in a heartbeat. Hell, you could even be designated as an 'enemy' of the State if these two lying clowns steal this election.

Posted by: matthews29 | October 7, 2008 9:00 AM

'"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.'

Ummmm, I have to call b.s. on this one. Listen to the video that's available on YouTube; You won't hear anyone yell that.

One man? Out of how many? 20,000?

Reporters shouldn't write inflammatory or embarrassing comments without attributing them to a specific person.

Listen for yourself and see if you hear anyone yell "Kill him!" You can hear a lot of other folks in the background, but not the statement the reporter wrote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKidzgxHOM

Posted by: stwendeler | October 7, 2008 8:59 AM

To the editors:

You must, must demand an anwser to these two questions:

1. Was the man removed from the event? If not, why not?

2. Was the secret service notified? If not, why not?

If not, there is no reason for your continued existence. Remember, they can turn on you in a heartbeat. Hell, you could even be designated as an 'enemy' of the State if these two lying clowns steal this election.

Posted by: matthews29 | October 7, 2008 8:55 AM

'"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.'

Ummmm, I have to call b.s. on this one. Listen to the video that's available on YouTube; You won't hear anyone yell that.

One man? Out of how many? 20,000?

Reporters shouldn't write inflammatory or embarrassing comments without attributing them to a specific person.

Listen for yourself and see if you hear anyone yell "Kill him!" You can hear a lot of other folks in the background, but not the statement the reporter wrote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKidzgxHOM

Posted by: stwendeler | October 7, 2008 8:55 AM

'"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.'

Ummm, I have to call b.s. on this one. Listen to the video that's available on YouTube; you won't hear anyone yell that.

Reporters shouldn't write something that could be embarrassing to a political candidate without attributing the comment to an individual.

Listen for yourself and see if you hear anyone yell "Kill Him!" You can hear a lot of other folks in the background, but not the statement that the reporter wrote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKidzgxHOM

Posted by: stwendeler | October 7, 2008 8:47 AM

"Kill him"? What the heck is wrong with people? Hasn't this gone far enough - getting people worked up into such a state where they would have the gall to say, out loud, in public, that Obama is a "terrorist" (in the case of the McCain speech) or say they want to "kill him" (in Palin's). Griping about Ayers and Rezko is stupid and sleazy, this kind of talk is just plain frightening and awful. Someone really needs to have a serious talk with the McCain campaign. Someone from the Secret Service. They're starting a meme that has the nasty ring of hate speech around it.

Posted by: Mazarin | October 7, 2008 8:17 AM

How cute. Only a week after the Katie Couric interview, and finally Palin can name a newspaper.

Posted by: bentobox | October 7, 2008 8:10 AM

Palin followers are screaming that they want someone to kill Barak Obam and she smiles and egg them on?

That is not front page news?

By not reporting that prominently, you, Washington Post people, are complicit.

Posted by: mhwebster | October 7, 2008 8:06 AM

How cute. Only a week after the Katie Couric interview, and finally Palin can name a newspaper.

Posted by: bentobox | October 7, 2008 8:03 AM

Palin followers are screaming that they want someone to kill Barak Obam and she smiles and egg them on?

That is not front page news?

By not reporting that prominently, you, Washington Post people, are complicit.

Posted by: mhwebster | October 7, 2008 7:59 AM

Palin followers are screaming that they want someone to kill Barak Obam and she smiles and egg them on?

That is not front page news?

By not reporting that prominently, you, Washington Post people, are complicit.

Posted by: mhwebster | October 7, 2008 7:59 AM

How cute. Only a week after the Katie Couric interview, and finally Palin can name a newspaper.

Posted by: bentobox | October 7, 2008 7:59 AM

Heavan help us if the incompetent, hatemonger GOP wins another term. They like to say that the surge worked. I retort, it worked alright. It bankrupted us. Good job General Custer.

Posted by: veeve | October 7, 2008 7:59 AM

She says Rev. Wright, I say Pastor Muthee (Witch Hunter) and the likes of John Hagee (spews hate for those that don't believe his narrow beliefs).

She says William Ayers, I say Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaska Independence Party who said:

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

This is important because Todd Palin was a member of this party from 1995-2002 which has the stated goal of Alaskan secession from the United States. Sarah Palin has continually reached out to this group and even spoke at their annual convention this year.

That being said, one has to wonder when the McCain campaign says "Country First", just exactly which country are they talking about?

Posted by: klemn | October 7, 2008 7:28 AM

She says Rev. Wright, I say Pastor Muthee (Witch Hunter) and the likes of John Hagee (spews hate for those that don't believe his narrow beliefs).

She says William Ayers, I say Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaska Independence Party who said:

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

This is important because Todd Palin was a member of this party from 1995-2002 which has the stated goal of Alaskan secession from the United States. Sarah Palin has continually reached out to this group and even spoke at their annual convention this year.

That being said, one has to wonder when the McCain campaign says "Country First", just exactly which country are they talking about?

Posted by: klemn | October 7, 2008 7:22 AM

If John McCain were not a despicable and dishonorable man, he would be ashamed of the kind of demagogery whipped up by crypto-fascists like Gov. Palin. But clearly, he approved this message.

"Kill him!"?!?!?

This is very scary stuff, people. Since Palin is clearly an utter buffoon, we don't have anything to worry about...oops, that's probably just what decent Germans would have said in 1933.

Posted by: Oomingmak | October 7, 2008 5:38 AM

If John McCain were not a despicable and dishonorable man, he would be ashamed of the kind of demagogery whipped up by crypto-fascists like Gov. Palin. But clearly, he approved this message.

"Kill him!"?!?!?

This is very scary stuff, people. Since Palin is clearly an utter buffoon, we don't have anything to worry about...oops, that's probably just what decent Germans would have said in 1933.

Posted by: Oomingmak | October 7, 2008 5:36 AM

My older Jewish friends tell me this is how it started back in Germany with little "populist" rallies where extremes and open hatred could be safely expressed.

I pray for us.

Posted by: miraclestudies | October 7, 2008 4:38 AM

If John McCain were not a despicable and dishonorable man, he would be ashamed of the kind of demagogery whipped up by crypto-fascists like Gov. Palin. But clearly, he approved this message.

"Kill him!"?!?!?

This is very scary stuff, people. Since Palin is clearly an utter buffoon, we don't have anything to worry about...oops, that's probably just what decent Germans would have said in 1933.

Posted by: Oomingmak | October 7, 2008 4:31 AM

This is the McCain-Palin vision for the future of America?!! Thanks, but no thanks. We need leaders who foster national unity despite our differences, not ones who capitalize on the fears and insecurities of our citizens. It's sad, not just that some would express their vitriol through death threats, but that the current McCain-Palin rhetoric echoes the hatemongering of the past.

Posted by: orbitman | October 7, 2008 4:25 AM

If John McCain were not a despicable and dishonorable man, he would be ashamed of the kind of demagogery whipped up by crypto-fascists like Gov. Palin. But clearly, he approved this message.

"Kill him!"?!?!?

This is very scary stuff, people. Since Palin is clearly an utter buffoon incapable of actually running anything, we don't have anything to worry about...oops, that's probably just what decent Germans would have said in 1933.

Posted by: Oomingmak | October 7, 2008 4:06 AM

I can understand why Americans would respond to the idea of putting country first. We are currently fighting two wars, being drowned by our national debt and we’re being told the entire economy is now on life support. But today the stunning cynicism of John McCain’s use of Country First became excruciatingly apparent. Today on the evening news I witnessed John McCain’s running mate face her adoring fans and label the Presidential candidate of the Democratic Party a traitor. I imagine like before, McCain will blame his opponent for this despicable display. Maybe he’ll once again claim Obama’s failure to accept John’s invitation to the ten town hall debates took the matter out of his hands. However, I’m guessing the John McCain’s latest sewer crawl was instigated by Barack Obama’s untenable associations with 52% of the American people. Poor John really had no choice. I just can’t imagine that his father, grandfather or his fellow P.O.W.s would believe for one second that John McCain is somehow putting country first

Posted by: klcscott | October 7, 2008 4:06 AM

If John McCain were not a despicable and dishonorable man, he would be ashamed of the kind of demagogery whipped up by crypto-fascists like Gov. Palin. But clearly, he approved this message.

"Kill him!"?!?!?

This is very scary stuff, people. Since Palin is clearly an utter buffoon, we don't have anything to worry about...oops, that's probably just what decent Germans would have said in 1933.

Posted by: Oomingmak | October 7, 2008 3:59 AM

If John McCain were not a despicable and dishonorable man, he would be ashamed of the kind of demagogery whipped up by crypto-fascists like Gov. Palin. But clearly, he approved this message.

"Kill him!"?!?!? This is very scary stuff, people. If Palin weren't an utter buffoon, I'd say...oops, that's probably just what decent Germans would have said in 1933.

Posted by: Oomingmak | October 7, 2008 3:55 AM

It's very disturbing. It's also typical Floridian idiocy at its finest. I see it everyday. Recently I fell victim to it when I had my Obama yard sign ripped up, in broad daylight!

Posted by: veeskips | October 7, 2008 3:39 AM

Dana,

Having somebody yell, "Kill him!" is very frightening. That is clearly over the line, and McKain had better not encourage that kind of thinking.

I do hope you will keep your eye on this!

Sincerely,
Jason J. Poston

Posted by: jjposton | October 7, 2008 3:13 AM

Posted by: 10emlet | October 7, 2008 2:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APydh8XnO9c

Maybe you none believer's will like this.

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 7, 2008 2:43 AM

Lots of spirited comments but not a lot of truth here. Check out the history for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxoiZdBSi-g

Posted by: indysfortruth | October 7, 2008 2:19 AM

Now that we know that there are racist people out there that really want to kill Obama. I hope and pray that he wins and if anything happens to him then Sarah Palin and John McCain should be held for crimes against humanity for exciting a riot, because that is excactlly what is going to happen all across america.

I'm not making this up. This is the talk that is going on in pretty much every neighborhood, company breakroom,and public place. It's really everywhere now that the statement was made in Florida to "Kill Obama"

Guess what it was all started by the RNC VP Sarah Palin. Not one time did McCain or Palin rebuke the guy and have him arrested for making the statement so I wonder if they feel the same way?

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 7, 2008 2:13 AM

In reply to: leeh11281 says
leeh11281 says: “What's more, in every reference of the Constitution that he made, he was wrong.” Oh come on leeh… not even Fox News had the sand to claim any Biden Constitution mistakes! Obviously you received the John McCain trick guide to the constitution, that came free with the purchase of the 100 Palin Pit Bulls Pack
leeh11281 says: “Name one question that she answered that was on topic?” Too funny, but darned if you didn't stump me.
leeh11281 says “Name me a lie that she has said. Name 1? “
Okay, at the debate she lied about her support of Alaska divesting their investments in Darfur. Now we have to go all the way back to day #1 of her campaign and start with lie #1 (national) Thanks, but no thanks....

Posted by: klcscott | October 7, 2008 1:59 AM

These people will stop at nothing. No wonder the rest of America is sick and tired of listening to them. Please, the more Sarah speaks, the better she helps the Democratic ticket. The more McCain stoop to low tactics the better he makes Obama look. The fact of the matter is that we are just sick and tired of listening to the both of them. A seanile maverick and a moose eating power hungry Alaskian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sspOJXTFv-Y

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 7, 2008 1:55 AM

These people will stop at nothing. No wonder the rest of America is sick and tired of listening to them. Please, the more Sarah speaks, the better she helps the Democratic ticket. The more McCain stoop to low tactics the better he makes Obama look. The fact of the matter is that we are just sick and tired of listening to the both of them. A seanile maverick and a moose eating power hungry Alaskian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sspOJXTFv-Y

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 7, 2008 1:55 AM

When Palin speaks unintelligibly, it is because she is speaking in her own words. The only time she speaks understandable English is when she is playing puppet for big corporate interests, and is parroting what they have programmed her to say.

Palin is a puppet for to evil, corrupt, fraudulent men who want to completely ruin democracy, America, and the world. She is a despicable, brainless Stepford Wife, who believes we are in End Times so anything goes, and Palin is a tool for Big Oil, Big Banking, and everything that seeks to destroy everything that is good, free, virtuous, and worthy about America.

Posted by: trueblue5 | October 7, 2008 1:54 AM

This woman is exciting people to kill a candidate. Is this what America has become. We see Black Soldiers fight for our country and come back in caskets. Do we call them terrorist? For Americans to stoop this low and follow a truly sick woman is sad to see. We are in a recession and our Economy is so bad millions are losing their homes and life savings. But all the McCain/Palin team can do is attack Obama. I'm interested in what plan a candidate has to fix this problem. If we let McCain/Palin side step the real issues we will see another case of like the Keating 5 Scandal of 1989 and we will truly be in a depression. Notice how other countries are moving to correct their Economy without the US involvement. Americans will have to vote for a candidate who will correct these problems and that's Obama or a candidate who will bring us to the Second Great Depression and that's McCain. Palin is just a sex toy for the GOP.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | October 7, 2008 1:31 AM

Palin, like Peggy Noonan, always has an agenda when she says something.

In this case, she's trying to cover for the bad judgment of Comrade McCain of the Socialist Republican party in choosing her, during a time when America has a serious economic crisis caused directly by the actions of members of her own Party Elite.

Sad, really.

But what can you expect from a separatist like Palin?

Posted by: WillSeattle | October 7, 2008 1:31 AM

When Nazi Germany invaded Finland and forced every jew to wear identifying stars, the king of Finland sewed one on himself and much of the rest of the country followed suit.

Therefore,in response to the despicable racist rants and the incitement to violence at the McCain and Palin Rallies, I suggest we all call ourselves Hussein until after the election. I know I am going to do this.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 7, 2008 1:31 AM

Pitbulls already had such a nasty reputation, why does this bimbo have to call herself one and stain the poor dogs by association?

Posted by: light_bearer | October 7, 2008 1:23 AM

so people can scream about killing obama at palin rallies, even the crew that was locked & loaded and high on ice, ready to assassinate a presidential nominee, gets released without charge.

how are palin and mccain able to get about the country inciting these sorts of elements and whooping them up?

meanwhile, peaceful anti-war protesters at the RNC get beaten and shot by twin city cops, even journalists trying to cover the protest are locked up and have their press passes ripped off. what's going on??

Posted by: watchclosely | October 7, 2008 1:21 AM

Believe nothing Palin says. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING.

She is being forced to lie by the McCain campaign. But you knew that already, right? She is now an official liar for the campaign. Even if she's ever elected to office again, how will anyone ever believe a word she says from now on? LIAR LIAR PALIN ON FIRE

Posted by: worflar | October 7, 2008 1:18 AM

Fox News/Rasmussen Reports for Florida today:
Obama 52%
McCain 42%

McCain's numbers are better before he selected Palin.

Palin isn't making headway in Florida--or anywhere else-- because 1) she only campaigns in republican strongholds; 2) she keeps talking about mavericks and ruffles and feathers while people want to talk about the economy.

Economy! Economy! Economy! Economy! Economy! Economy! Economy! Economy!

Posted by: jandcgall1 | October 7, 2008 12:58 AM

Yankeerebelcat wrote:

Barack Hussame Obama
Sadam Hussame Osama Biden laden
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Are you the racist bonehead who yelled, "Kill him!"? Because, to emphasize Sen. Obama's middle name and link him to Bin Laden, is just ignorant. With your logic, the fact that both my first and last names are of French origin means that I have direct links to France, which means I must be subversive, anti-American, etc.? In reality, I have relatives who came from France, others from Canada, and I have no identification with being French. Period.

For the millionth time: Hussein is an Arabic name. Sen. Obama got his name from his father who was Kenyan. His father was atheist, but born to a muslim (Obama's Kenyan grandfather who he never knew). Sen. Obama is Christian. He attended private school in Indonesia, which ABC News and others investigated and disproved the rumor that it was a madrassa. If the fact that he spent part of his childhood in Indonesia is suspect, then consider that John McCain was born in Panama (not even American soil) and he lived all over the world during his childhood. Maybe we need to prove his loyalty to the United States? I mean, he did confess during his time as a POW?...see how stupid these false associations are?

No, sorry, I forgot - people like you don't seek out truth. You perpetuate racism by focusing on what you want or need to believe.

Posted by: bethechange1 | October 7, 2008 12:48 AM

And did America's Hooters Girl wink, blow kisses, or do a Betty Grable turn for the guy who shouted "kill him?"

Posted by: light_bearer | October 7, 2008 12:43 AM

Obama has Rev Wright.
Palin has Rev Muthee. An African. Did they tell you that? You can see him casting witches out of the Governor on You Tube.
Obama met Ayers. Palin gave a speech for the Alaskan Independent Party. They want to secede. The Founder of that Party hates America. You can see that too.

Posted by: black971 | October 7, 2008 12:41 AM

There was a time when John McCain would have chastised the person in his audience who shouted "terrorist!"...then again, the 2000 John McCain would not have lowered himself to have a Sarah Palin pit bull spewing race-baiting, hate-mongering messages that would inspire a member of the audience to yet, "Kill him!"

The mainstream media needs to focus on this travesty. It's bad enough that idiots like Hannity and Limbaugh prime their racist, ignorant punk audiences to buy into the lies about Sen. Obama's background, but to have the candidates to it. Reprehensible. The sad reality is that the violent freaks who make assassination attempts feel justified for reasons such that McCain/Palin are feeding them. If anything happens to Sen. Obama, they are complicit along with the right-wing talking heads on radio, especially.

Sen. Obama was born in America, he is the father of two beautiful daughters, married for 17 years to an intelligent, successful woman that is his equal, and he has had no affairs or ethics violations - unlike his opponents. The Ayers/Wright stories are old news and the only people who are going to be distracted and thrilled by the McCain campaign delving into this are the republican base. McCain can't win with the base only this year. I hope he takes his adulterous, lying self and his long-distance, prescription drug addicted heiress, mistress turned wife and the snotty, ignorant governor of Alaska who is the new George W. Bush (i.e. arrogant and underwhelming and a marketing creation/puppet) and leaves the national scene. I doubt any of Sen. McCain's colleagues, except for sad-sack Lieberman, will have anything to do with him after he loses this election.

Posted by: bethechange1 | October 7, 2008 12:36 AM

But seriously,
these people are stupid.
The reason why Senator Obama is close hand about his ties to people is because well, most of us don't want to hear the truth. Maybe we are about to get a candidate who's gonna change some stuff. At least the entire idea of the traditional figure head of this country is gonna change. And I know thats kinda of a racist statement, but it's not unfounded. The world is kinda tired of the greatest country in the world being run by arrogant hypocritical morally pale men. White dudes always telling people slavery is bad, but hey if Nike needs to set up some "offshore" labor for a decent cost, welllll thats ok, ooh oooh line my pockets first!!!, please unky SAm. Yeah, not gonna happen with a black guy at the focus. It can't, he'll be too busy trying to excuse his intelligence to people for the first 2 years, and when he finally get around to getting rid of the foreign run federal reserve. . . well this is all extrapolation. . . I think Palin is an idiot. I think John McCain is a 2nd level imp. And I think the Black Man and the Golem have a much better chance at pushing back our demise for a few more years.
Change or die America.

Posted by: luvkraft | October 7, 2008 12:34 AM

On a not-so-subtle level, Palin and McCain are trying to make it O.K. to HATE Barack Obama, to pour all frustrations and inadequacies onto this person who is so "other". Obama is not fighting back on the same level, though media headlines would say so. The Keating 5 episode was a real event in which McCain played a central role, and he admitted wrongdoing. Reminding voters of that in the midst of another financial crisis is very germane to the election. Character attacks are not. These are the tactics of racist demagogues, not of people seeking to lead a pluralistic democracy. Assassination and violence are conceivable results of these rants, and all ethical Republican leaders ought to be denouncing McCain & Palin from the rooftops by now.

Posted by: dpks | October 7, 2008 12:32 AM

Barack Hussame Obama
Sadam Hussame Osama Biden laden

Posted by: yankeerebelcat | October 7, 2008 12:26 AM

That person should have been arrested for making a death threat on Obama. What is wrong with these people!!!

Posted by: hilarybarboza77 | October 7, 2008 12:23 AM

It appears that Sarah Palin's pals include Ted Stevens and Jack Abramoff. Her associations are far more damaging and far less charitable than that of Barack Obama's with William Ayers. She looks uglier and uglier every day! Sorry Rich Lowry!

Posted by: ssk9 | October 7, 2008 12:19 AM

your tribe is as cancerous as the leader you so desperately want to win. No more of this crap guys. For far to long you've had some filial piety for these leaders that continue to stab their own tribesmen in the back. Your tribe continues to fear the dark and unknown made up bogeymen. My tribe already had to deal with nightriders and lynching parties, real and tangible. Your candidate has a disease that makes him shun sunlight. Mother Sky's greatest gift to the world and it's trying to kill him. If that doesn't say enough about the leader you want... well you guys continue to lob crap like the backcave baboons that most of you are. I believe your lil somewhat racist (like lovecraft, I know, I know) author Ayn Rand put it together nicely in her book about that punished god shruggin, except instead of the blond haired blue eyed savior that so many of your tribesmen before you thought it would be, well you get an uppity coloured fellah instead.
"That fellars gonna blow up the reezerve, we wanted a white man to do that fer us."
Haha. Gosh I really wish Cthulhu and the old ones were real sometimes.

Posted by: luvkraft | October 7, 2008 12:14 AM

I am not surprised by this behavior from Republicans at all sadly.

These are the same folks who were yelling "4 more years" of George Bush.

Posted by: stevecoe | October 7, 2008 12:13 AM

Some further facts, the wait time list posted by another reader is somewhat old.

Surgical Wait Times

In British Columbia, more than 400,000 hospital-based surgeries and treatments are performed each year. If you need surgery or treatment that is not an emergency, you will be placed on a wait list. An individual who needs emergency surgery does not go on a waitlist; they receive treatment without delay.


Source: The Province of British Columbia Health Care Department.

Also readers should be aware of a few facts about health care in Canada.

Basically the Government pays 70% of health care costs directly, the balance is paid by users through monthly premiums, this usually amounts to under $60.00 per month for a single user or about $135.00 for a family of three..

You can go to any Doctor or any hospital, anywhere in Canada, or if you choose you can go to a medical clinic for minor treatment. Prescription drugs are dirt cheap, and most of the population buy coverage for free drugs at very reasonable costs.

In B.C. the entire province is covered by the Provincial Ambulance service and is the largest in North America, and all MT's are paramedics.

In addition your coverage includes Air Ambulance service anywhere in Canada, and they will fly to the U.S. and pick you up if required.

In addition if you require emergency surgery and there are no beds available in Canada they will transport you to a U.S. hospital.

The United States can have this type of service if it wants, big changes will be required. The Health care system in Canada is non-profit, that means they don't make any money on gauze pads, or IV tubes, or bandages, its a cost covered by the Government.

U.S. Health care is profit based, everybody has their fingers in the pie, that has to stop, and it won't be easy.

Posted by: kentaylor1 | October 7, 2008 12:11 AM

I think Palin and McCain pretty well proved today that they are at heart assassins. Why else would they be making such unsubstantiated attacks on Obama and not calling down the persons in the audience who yelled "Kill him!"? This is absolutely disgusting. McCain has lost every possibility of being taken seriously as a person that can lead this nation. Americans will not follow such an immoral and unethical person.

Posted by: peter777 | October 7, 2008 12:08 AM

Make no mistake about it. We are in a civil war. It is time to conquer and wipe out the terrorist organization that calls itself the Republican Party. They are traitors to this country and humanity.

Posted by: notbuyinganyofit | October 7, 2008 12:08 AM

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=8c130fe3-adab-4cb3-8443-c363f085cf13&p=4

Pull up your chair and read about this despicable racist creature from those who went to school with and lived near her.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 7, 2008 12:01 AM

And as for the health care system in Canada, unless you've tried it, don't knock it. I've lived in both countries and I'll take Canada's any day over the joke in the US. By far, the vast majority of Canadians wouldn't trade it for anything. Like all systems, there are cock-ups, but I've yet to see anyone offer one of their eyes for sale for an operation for their wife as I did in L.A.

Posted by: 10emlet | October 6, 2008 11:58 PM

The McCain/Palin campaign have thrown honor, dignity, and integrity to the wind. Her comments had to be approved by McCain. Not only is she pathetic, audience reaction is frightening. I think it is safe to say that Barack Obama IS NOT a terrorist. Palin came off as a stupid 5th grade bully! It is pretty safe to say that William Ayers (who like Scooter "I committed treason and was not given the death penealty" Libby) never was convicted of any crime (Old scooter was convicted "doggone it you betcha"). Serving on a charity that promotes education in the inner city and being a college professor seem like signs of some degree of rehabilitation (without prison "b'gosh"). Gov. Palin has some terrorist associations of her own beginning with HER HUSBAND! How about the Alaska Independence Party! They promote violent secession from the rest of the United States! That guy in charge Vogler doesn't seem nearly as nice as Bill Ayers is now. That Pastor Muthie guy seems a little scary too "b'gosh." A wise person once said: When you live in a big glass house (and you only pay 15% taxes on $166,000) you shouldn't be throwing stones. Shame on McPalin for their heinous behavior. People are not going to buy it this time.

Posted by: ssk9 | October 6, 2008 11:52 PM

This creature is a real piece of nasty work. Why she isn't arested for hate-mongering is beyond me. She is obviously extremely resentful, as was Nixon, of anyone whom she perceives as from a 'higher class' than she is. The chip on her shoulder is dangerous and she will drag down the United States into the muck and mud that she calls home. Disgusting trollop. Americans should send her packing. Her kind of trash talk will end in violence - is this really what will be America's future - a Mad Max type of hate-filled counry?

Posted by: 10emlet | October 6, 2008 11:52 PM

A recent comment made by a poster says there are three countries with Universal health care, apparently his or her language problems has caused a misinterpretation of the facts:

Universal health care is health care coverage which is extended to all eligible residents of a governmental region. Universal health care programs vary widely in their structure and funding mechanisms, particularly the degree to which they are publicly funded. Typically, most health care costs are met by the population via compulsory health insurance or taxation, or a combination of both. According to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences and others, the United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not provide universal health care

Posted by: kentaylor1 | October 6, 2008 11:46 PM

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

Isn't it against the law to threaten a Presidential candidate? Why are McCain/Palin being allowed to get away with their incendiary remarks...accusing Obama of supporting terrorists and hating America. If anything happens to him they should be held responsible for provoking the hatred from their hateful and racists supporters.

Posted by: lotuscw19 | October 6, 2008 11:45 PM

I'm glad that McSame/Palin are giving us a good look at what the country would be like under their rule. To them "the greatest force for good in the world" is inciting an angry lynch mob to chants of "kill him."

Posted by: flavor13 | October 6, 2008 11:44 PM

New polls are out from CNN. Right after SP was chosen by McC, she was receiving a 21% disapproval rating. Now that rating is 40%. She does okay when she preaches to the choir, but put her in front of a bipartisan group or a bipartisan crowd, like those who watched the debate....and she decreass approval ratings. the Mc/Palin duo is going to really have to dig furthur to scare Americans more than the Wall Street melt down. He's 6-8 points behind Obama overall and much is blamed on our economy as well as Pres Bush's low approval rating of 24%. It would seem that Americans are more & more associating McCain with Bush and this is turning them off to McCain. At this point it almost appears that Obama has to just keep his cool and talk about issues and the Presidency is his. On the other hand, McCain & Sarah are focusing on Obama and not the issues and this is turning off Americans.....The problem is also that more and more Amercans are not trusting in Mc/Palins answers to the issues because the duo are Republicans and Bush is a Republican. This is more about Bush and low expections for SP than McCain or Obama at this point.

Posted by: leah1946 | October 6, 2008 11:43 PM

New polls are out from CNN. Right after SP was chosen by McC, she was receiving a 21% disapproval rating. Now thgat rating is 40%. She does okay when she preaches to the choir, but put her in front of a bipartisan group or a bipartisan crowd, like those who watched the debate....and she decreass approval ratings. the Mc/Palin duo is going to really have to dig furthur to scare Americans more than the Wall Street melt down. He's 6-8 points behind Obama overall and much is blamed on our economy as well as Pres Bush low approval rating of 24%. It would seem that Americans are more & more associating McCain with Bush and this is turning them off to McCain. At this point it almost appears that Obama has to just keep his cool and talk about issues and the Presidency is his. On the other hand, McCain & Sarah are focusing on Obama and not the issues and this is turning off Americans.....The problem is also that more and more Amercans are not trusting in Mc/Palins answers to the issues because the duo are Republicans and Bush is a Republican. This is more about Bush and low expections for SP than McCain or Obama at this point.

Posted by: leah1946 | October 6, 2008 11:42 PM

First let me apologize for any grammatical errors.
I am recently became an American Citizen and I am still learning the English language.
My mother use to say:
"The worse blind is the one which does not want to see".
The sad thing about all this situation (Presidential Elections 2008) is that…after all is done… (Obama wins)…people are gone say: What happened? I was so sure!
He sounded so good!
To good to be true!
This is what I have to say...To much talk...Who is him? Do you really know Obama? Two years in the Senate…campaigning…that’s all!
Promises…He says what people want to hear!
We all gone pay a very high price for this big mistake we (you) are getting yourselves in…
Open your eyes people!
Study the situations…get informed…Don’t believe in promises!
Look at the person! Their precedent…
Don’t you know that “were there’s smoke there’s fire?”
We should be more prudent with our choices…
We leave in a very dangerous world…very dangerous…
Look at the history of this world!
We are all living in a “lalala” world, not taking in consideration that bad people are out there, and they are planning right now, as we speak, to kill us!
Even if it takes 100 years…They will succeed!
And do you want to know why!
JUST BECAUSE WE CHOOSE TO BE BLIND…AND DEAF!
BE CAREFUL…AND… GOOD LUCK!
God bless you all!


AND For those who like Obama's Health Care Plan to make it Universal and give the government full control over it, I found something that I hope will make you think harder. There are only 3 countries that have universal health care: Canada, Cuba and Korea.

One Radio Talk Show in Canada talked about the crisis in their health care system on Oct. 4, 2008. Listen to it. If America adopts the same system, we will have the same crisis down the road.

Posted by: schneemans | October 6, 2008 11:33 PM

Health care delivery problems in Canada
Often when the issue of health care access is discussed someone will point north and advocate for a Canada-styled heath care system for the U.S.
But there are problems in the Canadian health care system too. From theglobalandmail.com:
Canada, once able to boast about its high rank in the world for low infant-mortality rate – sixth place in 1990 – saw its rank plummet to 25th place in 2005, according to figures published this year by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development.
Specifically, Canada's infant mortality rate of 5.4 deaths per 1,000 live births is tied with Estonia's and more than double Sweden's rate of 2.4.
According to the OECD the infant mortality rate for the U.S. was not listed for 2005 but it was 6.8 (deaths per 1000 live births) for 2004.
In addition, the waiting times for many procedures in Canada seems long. In a report titled The Wait Time Strategy (available as a pdf at the health.gov.on.ca website) the number of days between decision to treat and treatment is listed. These are the average number of days waiting for December 2006 and January 2007.


Cancer Surgery 68 days
Angiography 28 days
Angioplasty 17 days
Bypass Surgery 48 days
Cataract Surgery 183 days
Hip Replacement 257 days
Knee Replacement 307 days
MRI 105 days
CT 62 days


If interested, you can navigate the Canadian health care website and check the average waiting times for various hospitals and geographic areas in Ontario.

Posted by: schneemans | October 6, 2008 11:31 PM

McCain and Palin are Republicans, and they are behind. After all, this is the party that brought us Bush, Cheney, and Rove. McCain and Palin really are just more of the same.

Posted by: tracyperkins | October 6, 2008 11:16 PM

McCain and Palin are Republicans, and they are behind. After all, this is the party that brought us Bush, Cheney, and Rove. McCain and Palin really are just more of the same.

Posted by: tracyperkins | October 6, 2008 11:16 PM

I'm waiting for the "He hates America and he's going to win! Somebody should do something *wink wink* about him" style comments.

Palin's basically telling her rabid supporters - the ones who would believe her if she told them that Obama needs the blood of children to survive - that Obama is a terrorist. And people are surprised the crowd is yelling "KILL HIM" in response?

Conservatives should realize as they continue telling their mentally imbalanced supporters that their opponents hate America, they're playing with loaded weapons. Literally and figuratively.

Posted by: jlowery1 | October 6, 2008 11:10 PM

If someone yelled "Kill him," at an Obama rally, Bill O'Reilly would burst into flame from indignation.

Posted by: CardinalFang | October 6, 2008 11:09 PM

This is sickening. Sarah Palin and John McCain are domestic terrorist for trying to incite a riot.

Posted by: renatanicole | October 6, 2008 10:56 PM

Poem is actually lyrics from the song "Night Rally" by Elvis Costello and the Attractions (from their "Taking Liberties" CD, circa 1980).

Posted by: normangillen | October 6, 2008 10:53 PM

DrBB | October 6, 2008 10:31 PM - Can I quote your post on other blogs? It was a brilliant retort.

BTW - Who wrote the poem?

Posted by: amym2 | October 6, 2008 10:45 PM

How can you tell when McCain or Palin are lying? When their lips move!!

Posted by: trescharmante1952 | October 6, 2008 10:40 PM

Compassionate conservatism?

Posted by: astanhope | October 6, 2008 10:40 PM

Well, as someone once put it, "I liked it better in the original German." Or as someone even better once put it:

I would send out for assistance but there's someone on the signal wire
And the corporation logo is flashing on and off in the sky
They're putting all your names in the forbidden book
I know what they're doing but I don't want to look
You think they're so dumb, you think they're so funny
Wait until they've got you running to the
Night rally, night rally, night rally

Posted by: DrBB | October 6, 2008 10:40 PM

And will the real McCain stand up? To read an insightful article about McCain go to:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Even the Reagans rejected McCain after McCain dumped his wife for the younger, healthier, richer model.

If this is a race about character, Obama wins hands down. Just because McCain was a war prisoner, does not mean he has character. He is a character right from a bad B-movie. He has no conscience and lies over and over again.

As to Obama's connection to a former 60's radical, the insinuations are simply outrageous. Jane Fonda was a 60's radical, yet Ted Turner married her. Are we going to blame Obama for knowing someone who did something 40 years ago?

Can McCain stand the scrutiny for his relationship with Keating? Can Palin stand the scrutiny for her husband's association with a group that wants to secede from the US? Talk about unpatriotic!!!!!

Posted by: trescharmante1952 | October 6, 2008 10:36 PM

Well, as someone once put it, "I liked it better in the original German." Or as someone even better once put it:

I would send out for assistance but there's someone on the signal wire
And the corporation logo is flashing on and off in the sky
They're putting all your names in the forbidden book
I know what they're doing but I don't want to look
You think they're so dumb, you think they're so funny
Wait until they've got you running to the
Night rally, night rally, night rally

Posted by: DrBB | October 6, 2008 10:31 PM

Sarah Palin is a domestic terrorist.

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | October 6, 2008 10:27 PM

Is the NYT where she read the McCain/Palin campaign is pulling out of Michigan, since McCain doesn't respect her enough to even tell her much less discuss it with her before deciding? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70oC8Uw-UKY

Posted by: light_bearer | October 6, 2008 10:27 PM

Vinprose, man you are wordy. It took you two paragraphs to say Sarah Palin is a repulsive c_nt.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 9:54 PM

I have questions. 1) What was Palin's reaction to "kill him"? 2) Where is the man who shouted "kill him" now? A death threat is not trivial. Plus, can you imagine the uproar if this had happened at an *Obama* rally?!

Posted by: tbyg | October 6, 2008 9:51 PM

Palin is turning out to be a fascist in glasses. And blatantly stupid.

Posted by: Plutonium57 | October 6, 2008 9:50 PM

Stop whining, fight back. Shout it out "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!!!!!!!!"Then, actually do something.

Posted by: observer23 | October 6, 2008 9:49 PM

rs2mgi, that was satire!

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 9:49 PM

Palin is pretty darn sleazy. I sure hope America repudiates the trash coming out of the McCain campaign.

I guess we are now learning who Palin and McCain really are- and how low they will stoop. Amazing.

Posted by: dougm2 | October 6, 2008 9:46 PM

"Kill him" ???????? This is the kind of people who are supporting McCain. People who would threaten the life of a United States Senator. This is truly, truly disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves...but obviously they are beyond shame at this point. She's right about one thing--the America they want to see is NOT the America I want to see. Theirs is a violent, delusional America full of hatred and disdain. Their intolerance and ignorance is reprehensible.

Posted by: thelemonkid | October 6, 2008 9:30 PM

Having YOUR name appear on a list of people targeted for assassination is just a signature away.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

Posted by: thc1138 | October 6, 2008 9:30 PM

Sarah Palin is proving every day that she is worthy of John McCain's pet name for his wife.

Posted by: bajacalla | October 6, 2008 9:26 PM

So she's saddling up the night riders. That didn't take long.

Posted by: jussayin | October 6, 2008 8:44 PM

I now have the same reaction to Palin as I have with Bush- every single thing that comes out of her mouth is garbage.

McCain-Palin, let's hear how you are going to work on the economic crisis. My 401K is worth about 70 percent what it was a year ago. You betcha! Or how about all of the money we are wasting in Iraq? Gosh darn!

Posted by: homer4 | October 6, 2008 8:39 PM

Freakin Bimbo.

Vice President? Hahahahahahahahahahhahhahahahhahaahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: gwbush2323 | October 6, 2008 8:35 PM

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

------

OMG. They are shouting KILL HIM at Palin rallies? That's sick! Why isn't this all over the nightly news? If anything happens to Obama, Palin and McCain have blood on their hands.

These people are devoid of character AND ethics. Christians? Horseradish. I'm appalled that our country has come to this.

Posted by: Litz1 | October 6, 2008 8:23 PM

Wow. Rough stuff indeed. I think they've fully entered into "that's not funny" territory. For anyone else who is worried, I tried calling the Secret Service to report this incident (the local field office). Their mailbox was full. I think they've got the tip-off.

Posted by: roquelaure_79 | October 6, 2008 8:20 PM

Oh my. Did Sarah Palin REALLY just accuse Obama of consorting with domestic terrorists?

Oh. My. Goodness. That takes serious chutzpah.

Posted by: djw11 | October 6, 2008 8:10 PM

I have never been more ashamed of my country than today.
I thought we had grown wiser.

Sadly we have not. Beware - this is the kind of frenzy that started pogroms.

This the type of hate that sparked lynchings and mob rule.

I hope that people see where this is going and put a stop to it in the voting booth.

Posted by: DOlivervelez | October 6, 2008 8:10 PM

Imagine someone yelling "kill McCain" at an Obama rally. Holy shiite! But we expect this crap from Republicans.
With Troopergate looming as well as her tax fraud, I don't think she'll have a second term as Gov. Looks like first dud will have to get a real job working the pipeline.

Posted by: Joseph-IraqVet | October 6, 2008 8:10 PM

Hey Vinprose Sarah Palin is the ultimate white trailer park trash. She is also not very bright. She needs to check her facts as do you. She is not pretty and she does not pack powerful punch. What she does do is spew more hatered and volience. I mean really someone in the crowd yells kill him and she does nothing. Sarah start acting like a grown up and answer the questions asked. If you don't know the answer its ok your just not ready to play with the big boys yet. Lets stick to the facts.

Posted by: loli1103 | October 6, 2008 8:10 PM

John McCain: No honor. No decency. No principles. Unamerican.

Posted by: SportinLife | October 6, 2008 8:10 PM

John McCain: No honor. No decency. No principles. Unamerican.

Posted by: SportinLife | October 6, 2008 8:10 PM

What is wrong with this picture? The crowd chants "kill him" and it's a-okay? Stop the madness. I have never seen a campaign so dirty, sleezy, and out of control.

Fear has a way of making people do things they wouldn't normally do. Maybe that's what the Alaskan Messiah is trying to do. All it takes is one person, one nut job . . .

Posted by: Marie10 | October 6, 2008 7:58 PM

The crowd responds "kill him" and she says nothing??? OMG! Sarah Palin & John McCain deserve each other. They will be wondering Nov 4, 2008 what happened. And as Palin steps on McCain's neck he will be the only one left wondering what happened.
Palin is going the route of George Wallace and his ilk isn't she!

Posted by: teresa_mccarthy | October 6, 2008 7:51 PM

On a day when McCain's campaign calls for cutting Medicare and Medicaid by $1.3 trillion over the next 10 years, it seems this is about all they have left. God help us all if they win.

Posted by: gschwartz1 | October 6, 2008 7:45 PM

These are frightening people. "Kill him!" They think of themselves as Christians, yet their minds are full of evil and filth. How many of the Commandments has McCain broken? Thou shalt not kill? Check. Thou shalt not commit adultery? Check. Thou shalt not bear false witness? Check.

Sarah Palin is a demon from Hell, and the people who cheer for her and her filthy, dishonest hate speech will follow her into the pit.

Posted by: mwfree | October 6, 2008 7:38 PM

The "Lowest Common Denominator" Party comes through once again.

Did they yell out "show us your boobs?"

Posted by: BBpd | October 6, 2008 7:26 PM

**"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.**

Why is it that Republicans always kill Democrats, and never the other way around?

Posted by: lichtme | October 6, 2008 7:16 PM

As someone who voted for Regan and Bush SR I find it sad that the republican party has lost it's moral and political focus. I will vote for Obama.

Posted by: rrajecki | October 6, 2008 7:16 PM

Palin is proof that McCain puts his own ambition above his duty to country.

McCain has no honor, like all other neocon rightwing Republican nutjobs.

The majority of Americans eagerly look forward to the Republican overwhelming defeat in Novemeber.

The Republican shame will last for a generation.

Posted by: Continuum | October 6, 2008 7:08 PM

I hope someone calls McCain out tomorrow night during the debate about the "Kill him" and "he's a terrorist" remarks and his lack of action.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 6, 2008 7:04 PM

(1) The Secret Service should be called out for their inaction here. Why was this man not immediately arrested? There should be an investigation.
(2) John McCain was pals with David Ifshin. Where's the discussion of that?

Posted by: cjames421 | October 6, 2008 6:55 PM

For one who swears to being a Christian, it is unbelievably outrageous to personally attack a fellow Christian and American, especially if the whole truth is not told. This is disgusting!

Posted by: papaedde | October 6, 2008 6:52 PM

I am stunned that Palin would hear the words, "Kill Him" and say absolutely nothing. Is she supporting political assassination? Did the secret service do nothing to identify this person? She is dangerous. Her silence is a form of support for this.

I am also appalled by the racist subtext of Palin's comments. She is referring Obama's speech in which he identifies America's problematic racial history as a sign of "imperfection." Her response is to imply that he is a terrorist. So according to Palin, Black people should not be allowed to question racism without being called unpatriotic terrorists? This woman would try to reverse the 13th amendment (which abolished slavery) if she knew what it was.

Posted by: PhDiva | October 6, 2008 6:50 PM

Imagine this hillbilly, Alaskan valley trash, trailer park, pregnancy hider. The nerve to stoop to thie level. And after all the nice things the media and the Obama campaign said about her.-:)

Give it up guys. You thought this woman was out of her league; well, she's in a league of her own. She's sui generis; a natural. She's the Ali of politics. Like him, she's fast, she's pretty, she has a jaw of granite and a punch that's dynamite. You can't lay a glove on her.
Thanks for the forum WP. Vin at www.wegotsarah.com

Posted by: Vinprose | October 6, 2008 6:38 PM

Oh Toby -- if my criticism of Rinny's grammar is petty and detracts from my point, what does your calling me a "liar," "immensely ignorant," and asking if I pull "this cr*p" in court do for yours? Do you read what the opposing attorney states in his/her briefs? Toby, I attached the Wikipedia article about the Weather Underground's "alleged" activities and qualified my statements accordingly. I said the evidence points to Ayers regarding the San Francisco bombing that killed a cop. Actually, it points even more strongly to his wife, but that's for another day. So I'll grant you I should have thrown in another "allegedly" where I was discussing whether Obama's age mattered. So, address the point Mr. 58 y.o. attorney -- does it matter how old Obama was when Ayers ALLEGEDLY committed the acts?

You're right about one thing -- when I corrected Rinny's grammar and referenced the American educational system, I probably shouldn't have stooped to Rinny's level where she said I was uninformed, etc. and somehow was indicative of the problems with the American educational system. So sorry.

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 6, 2008 6:38 PM

I think Sarah Palin has America all twisted && she needs to look at what is best for our country. Obama has no connection with Terrorists, him and Bill Ayers has had casual relation. Sarah Palin has looked at the economy in her own perspective just like ALL REPUBLICANS. But as far as the comment "Kill Him" goes I think it's totally disrespectful && It's not professional to have hatred supporters. NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING.

Posted by: stretchbeautiful | October 6, 2008 6:32 PM

Palin's copy of the New york Times is already three days old.

Posted by: kathleen_oconnor | October 6, 2008 6:26 PM

Finally, 30 days to election day the repuks show they real face: Lying, hatret, mobilizing their gang with emotions, no facts! This is really scary! Kill him, and noone said anything? Is this still a democracy or Banana Republic? I am so embarressed about this country. Go and vote on the facts!!!

Posted by: bengl | October 6, 2008 6:19 PM

This is absolutely horrifying. John McCain needs to drop Sarah Palin at once. Cheer leading a Florida lynch mob? When the country stands on the verge of a Second Great Depression? Has the woman lost her mind?

The only way we will survive this terrible time if we hang together "or else we will surely hang separately". From the Founders, who were a lot smarter than today's politicians.

Posted by: McCamyTaylor | October 6, 2008 6:13 PM

When your campaign is failing, turn to bigotry and hatred. Even if it doesn't win you the popular vote, it just might get the other guy killed.

Posted by: katie84 | October 6, 2008 6:13 PM

"Booooooo!"

Like the sound people in ghost costumes make?

Posted by: dangerwillrobinson | October 6, 2008 6:13 PM

When your campaign is failing, turn to bigotry and hatred. Even if it doesn't win you the popular vote, it just might get the other guy killed.

Posted by: katie84 | October 6, 2008 6:07 PM

McCain/Palin True Colors are showing in presiding over a Lynch Mob mentality of emotionally underdeveloped so called republicans. McCain and Palin owe us an immediate explaination. It is one thing to get caught up in the moment; but another to refuse to address the "Kill Him" excited utterance, after a long time of reflection has passed without comment is worse. The Silence by McCain on the "Kill Him" yell only goes to indicate McCain does not oppose that assault. McCain wonders why he is behind in the Polls; the American People are much bigger than the negative behavior, which has been associated with McCain more and more lately.

Posted by: dmscontractor | October 6, 2008 5:57 PM

I'm gonna ignore this and talk about how my pig stubbed its toe when coming out the bathroom after putting on lipstick.

I mean, gosh, how fewer toes must a pig have to have in order to avoid stubbing it. Can't a pig ever get a break. Oink, oink.

What???? You have a question about foreign relations????

Hmm... I'm gonna ignore that too and talk about how my kitty cat had fun with her tail in the a/c fan. My kitty thought it was... really... some... good, old fashioned, this great country that I love very much, and we have lot of oil in alaska, and we can see Russia from one of our island. I think that is important. Because, if Putin rears his head, where is that, it's Alaska.

Posted by: Dave27 | October 6, 2008 5:45 PM

I assume the secret service arrested the man immediately? No? What??

Posted by: danisaacs | October 6, 2008 5:39 PM

McCain / Palin are giving up on the "Country first" theme. The new push is "If I can't have it nobody will" They are fomenting hate. They are spreading lies. They are trying to divide the American people, make them suspect one another, tempt them to destruction through fear of their neighbors. They are plotting the debilitation of an Obama / Biden administration. They are trying to sabotage any effort to right this country.

Posted by: braamer | October 6, 2008 5:38 PM

my grandfather escaped the stalin's death camp and lived in America. from what i learnt, he was among leading agricultural scientists in your lands. WWII hero.. this is what lets me forgive and forget what i've read in here, and never to attempt coming down here again.

Posted by: rs2mgi | October 6, 2008 5:36 PM

"Kill him!"

So a McCain/Palin victory means we can go back to lynching Negros, yes?

Posted by: WIDTAP | October 6, 2008 5:33 PM

Tampalawyer, You’re a liar! (or immensively ignorant). Do you pull this cr*p in court? You said: “ I draw the line at murder and violence, and I would hope you do as well. Now, let's figure out why it doesn't matter how old Obama was when Ayers committed those acts.”

Ayers did not “commit those acts.” No one died, except members of their group.

“… if Obama is a smart as everyone thinks, he'd be more than familiar with Ayers' background and one might think he'd disassociate himself from Ayers. For whatever reason he hasn't.”

Obama has clearly repudiated Ayers’ 1960s behavior. He’s supposed to be a Palin-like "Christian" and throw him into the pit today?

And finally: “By the way, Rinny, I appreciate and share your concern for the American educational system, so it's in that spirit that I tell you it's "you're," not "your."”

Are you briefs perfect? Ever make a grammar error or typo? Your pettiness is obnoxious and detracts from whatever credibility you may otherwise have had (lies and misleading statements notwithstanding).

p.s. I’m a 58 year old lawyer. I got spit on in the 60s by right wingers for marching against that wrong-headed, unwinnable war. Their hatred for American values will only be forgivable if they stay home on November 4 this year.

Posted by: toby5 | October 6, 2008 5:30 PM

Yea, KOKO--don't know what you are talking about--killing people (other than the CONVICTED child molesters, murders)-- isn't my thing...and if it were, well, I am swift enough not to shout it out in a crowd--so eh??
And lets see...Clinton (Billy that is) had about as much exerpience as Obama..Oh, but everytime he took something away (such as the benefits of our WWII boys health care for going back in Korea), we'll keep it clean and say he found something else for people to talk about...So, this thread can go forever and ever, the white devils will pay for whatever the bleeding hearts need/want....maybe it is time 4 me to get my bailout/SSI/Independance card (HA!)
Good night, lovers.....See you at the polls :P

Posted by: bellamary | October 6, 2008 5:28 PM

"even if they're right. We'll kill them! We'll bomb them! We'll oppress them! We'll go to bed with their dictators! We'll do what we damned well please because WE'RE AMERICANS!"

are you sure you can announce such nonsense while being at large? are you sure you're capable to perform such fits while facts scream at you that you, AMERICAN, failed to win any war 100% of the time? I am neutral to whatever happening between yourselves and wild oil cows, so, please no Secret Services.msc upon me. but you are not within what sir. Albert Einstein's quote tells us below, so please go and please yourselfish self.

Posted by: rs2mgi | October 6, 2008 5:25 PM

to everyone... if you're going to comment on someone else's post, READ it first.

Posted by: bostonlincs | October 6, 2008 5:24 PM

Thanks, agnostic engineer. No surprise there, though!

Posted by: bostonlincs | October 6, 2008 5:22 PM

Sarah Palin can read?

That IS news.

Posted by: asd2 | October 6, 2008 5:21 PM

"to cryos.. re-read my post. Can't see why it's contradictory.. unless you're assuming I'm a rabid Democrat! If the Democrats blocked Fannie/Freddie reform, then they were fools. Your post seems to assume the crisis is just down to this toxic debt! It isn't, unfortunately."


The Democrats didn't "kill" this bill. It was never brought to the floor by the Republican majority leadership. McCain signed on months AFTER the bill was shelved...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 6, 2008 5:18 PM

The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.


Cicero - 55 BC

we must surely learn from the past or suffer from the consequences

Posted by: white-eagle | October 6, 2008 5:18 PM

philamike--- yeah sorry I guess I'm surrounded by too many people who actually think that way.

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 6, 2008 5:11 PM

It's ok for Palin not to provide answers for serious issues concerning our country but she's fully supported for this "terrorist" racist remark? Did we, the great America took 40+ years back into history. It's alright for KKK people to attack African Americans but instead, a community organizer who paid his way through a great university that happens to have an un-american last name to be bashed and smeared like this? Do we have a Republic of Facism/Communism or what happened to our proud democracy? I used to side with Republican on many issues but this election campaign has truly woke me up. What is national security? It's about our top 6 ports being owned now by foreigners that relate to terrorism? it's about the arab country owned the landmark Chrysler skyscraper... it's about foreigners owning important, symbolic assets within our country that's most insecure. It's not about electing a pro-war oriented team while majority of our assets are owned by foreigners. Terrorists don't always have to fly here to destroy us, they can and are doing it through economy, yes $$$. Our oil dependency, our slow moving Eco plans/ industries. We can waste another 4 years if it was 10+ years ago. Are the people here (majority of us) aware of how fast other countries are growing? We don't have even a year to waste now. Everyone else (including China) is going full force in "Green" industry/developments/infrastructures and here we are, still debating racial-turn-character accusation and lipstick on pig issues... Great, we are moving so ahead of the rest of the world. We need to be the leader is Eco/"Green" technology/sources so we can lead the world or... we can sit in front of our cables tvs and make-believe we are the leader.
This election matters more than ever, a reason why press/media from all over the world are covering this election like no other. Let's vote not base on superficial things but content.

Posted by: abc2008 | October 6, 2008 5:11 PM

wishfulthinking1 you need to look at the post from 1freethinker1 at 4:54. I think you kind of missed my point.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 5:08 PM

Actually, Rinny, I'm 46, and you misquoted me. I said I wouldn't want either Keating or Ayers, and it was an unsavory choice. Unsavory means distasteful. I think we were talking about associations by McCain and Obama [not me] in any event. I've probably forgotten more about the Vietnam War than you know, and
I have a law degree just like Obama. There's no question it was immensely unpopular. Americans had every right to demonstrate against it, and to a degree engage in acts of civil disobediance. I draw the line at murder and violence, and I would hope you do as well.

Now, let's figure out why it doesn't matter how old Obama was when Ayers committed those acts. When do you think "Mein Kampf" was written? You do know who wrote that, right Rinny? It was written by Hitler in 1925 or so. So, let's all agree Obama wasn't even alive then, ok? With me so far? Let's say hypothetically, and let me be clear about that because you seem to jump to conclusions easily, Obama said he read "Mein Kampf" and agreed with the things he read there. Now, would it matter how old Obama was when it was written? So, if Ayers committed those acts in the early 70's, and hasn't disavowed them in any way -- in fact as late as 2001 he said they [the Weather Underground] should have done more [go look it up fact checker], does it matter how old Obama was when the bombings occurred? Ok, let me repeat so you don't misquote me -- I am not saying Obama ever read "Mein Kampf," and I believe he'd denounce its teachings. But, if Obama is a smart as everyone thinks, he'd be more than familiar with Ayers' background and one might think he'd disassociate himself from Ayers. For whatever reason he hasn't.

By the way, Rinny, I appreciate and share your concern for the American educational system, so it's in that spirit that I tell you it's "you're," not "your."

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 6, 2008 5:06 PM

Impartialreporter, we're AMERICANS! and therefore we don't give a fuuck if the whole world laughs at us, even if they're right. We'll kill them! We'll bomb them! We'll oppress them! We'll go to bed with their dictators! We'll do what we damned well please because WE'RE AMERICANS! And give us your tired, your poor, and your hungry so we know who they are so we can figure out how to draw voting districts and where to put polling places to make sure they don't vote like we got away with with blacks for a couple hundred years until all those weak kneed liberals got soft. And we don't wear motorcycle helmets either because we know better and no one can make Americans do what they don't want!

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 5:05 PM

McCain/Palin nothing else to offer, lets get the racist vote-scumbags!

Posted by: beaniec52 | October 6, 2008 5:05 PM

Philamike---

A forceful debater???? I can agree with you on some of what you said. She does know how to smile and wink at the camera and she was somewhat personable to the common joe schmo. She couldn't answer any questions....the only thing she could do is be personable. So I guess if you can look past the fact that she only looks out for herself and her own policies, is completely clueless as to what is actually going on, and cannot actually answer the question asked or atleast intelligently discuss the question asked, well then I guess you could say she is a "forceful debater". In my opinion, we don't need someone who is personable and knows when to wink and smile at a camera. We need someone who knows what they are talking about, someone who can answer your question, someone who can sit down with foreign leaders and diplomats and understand what is happening. I DO NOT see that in Palin.

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 6, 2008 5:03 PM

This Lady Palin is nuts. she cannot name a single paper she reads but talk about the terrorist ties of Obama ??? We sawher performance in the debate and I couldn't believe what she was talking about. I like McCain. how come he couldn't find a female politician from the republican party who has little brain than Palin if he really fishing for female votes. If Mccain dies, She will run the country? She can't even control her own family. The whole world will laugh at us if we elect Palin. Only in America.

Posted by: Impartialreporter | October 6, 2008 4:57 PM

PhilaMike - LOL!!

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 4:54 PM

Hi Mauro, I was paying $300+ every paycheck in taxes before the Bush tax cuts. I now pay less than $200 every paycheck. You do the math. This will apply to you as well.

Posted by: leeh11281

No it will not, and if Obama wins those tax cuts will not be taken away from you either. Obama said he would repeal the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans. From your description you do not fit that category nor do the rest of 99% of us.

Posted by: mauroacc | October 6, 2008 4:53 PM

You libs are all so jealous of Palin because she's attractive and charming and disarming and has great appeal with audiences and is a really forceful debater and is a quick study and knows exactly when to wink and smile and is tough and has really great experience and really good judgment and was asked to become the VP candidate because Lieberman and Romney and Giuliani all said no thanks to that "bridge to nowhere" instead of to the White House because they were smart enough to see that they wouldn't have a chance being on ticket with the man whose sole credential is the hope that people will vote for someone because he was once a POW. So get over it. Go Sarah! "Why do liberals hate just because I named my kids after inanimate objects in story books?"

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 4:51 PM

"GO PALIN! TELL THE TRUTH GIRL! GO FULL FORCE! MAY PLAIN BE OUR PRESIDENT!"

Do you see her as telling the truth because she doesn't answer any real questions she just "tells it like it is". Her debate was pathetic. I feel like I, along with anyone who can think for themselves has a better idea of what goes on inside our country, but especially outside our country. That woman is clueless. I would love to see her have 10 regular people ask her 10 different questions about major political issues. I get the feeling she wouldn't be able to answer but about 2 of the 10, and I think I'm being pretty generous with that.

So what to do when you're clueless as to how to solve any problems?

SMEAR THE FEAR

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 6, 2008 4:50 PM

The latest Congressional Budget Office data shows the bottom 40% of income earners already pays no income taxes. Indeed, they receive a net payment from the federal income tax system -- meaning from the taxpayers -- equal to 3.8% of all federal income taxes, because of the refundable tax credits under current law. The middle 20% of income earners, the true middle class, pays 4.4% of federal income taxes.

You can check EPI's analysis of some of the CBO's data. I think it is clear who has benefited the most from wealth distribution both before and AFTER taxes.

http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/ib239

Earlier this week, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) updated its authoritative data series on household incomes (1979-2005). The new data—highly regarded as a particularly complete source of information on this important topic—reveal a sharp increase in income inequality over the past few years. In fact, the increase in income inequality (both pre- and post-tax) as measured by the change in the shares of income going to different income classes, was greater from 2003 to 2005 than over any other two-year period covered by the CBO data. Over these years, an amazing $400 billion in pre-tax dollars was shifted from the bottom 95% of households to those in the top 5% (all income data in this report are inflation adjusted and in 2005 dollars). In other words, had income shares not shifted as they did, the income of each of the 109 million households in the bottom 95% would have been $3,660 higher in 2005

Posted by: mauroacc | October 6, 2008 4:46 PM

to:tampalawyer

you must be really young! you say "give me keaton"!!!1 ok i guess your saying..... lose your job, lose your house, lose your savings and lose your mind!!

you have no idea of how unpopular the vietnam war was do you?!! NOPE I HEAR CRICKETS!! i am not excusing the acts that ayers did but OBAMA WAS 8 YEARS OLD WHEN AYERS DID HIS ACTS. ayers is a professor and working on school reform now!!!WHY DONT YOU RESEARCH THE WHOLE TRUTH!!! you are just another right-wing uninformed voter and i pray your not a voter because people like you is why america is behind in the educational sytem around the world!

Posted by: rinny_1983 | October 6, 2008 4:40 PM

"GO PALIN! TELL THE TRUTH GIRL! GO FULL FORCE! MAY PLAIN BE OUR PRESIDENT!"

Tell what truth? The only thing she is doing is throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. I am waiting for her to discuss in length the policies of her ticket and how they will improve our plight as a nation, not hear her call names. What is this, kindergarten?

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 4:40 PM

You will pay a lot more in hidden costs. That is the big kicker. People who examine things at face value forget what happens when you tax companies higher; a company has to make a profit so they merely increase the product costs to cover the liability. So you will pay more for fuel, fuel and most every other necessary product and commodity.

Yes a company has to make profits and so it has to sell its products and services to people like you and me. We are in a free market economy right. Global trade right? Competition right? Companies know they can not raise prices and expect the same sales unless they are participating in an absolute monopoly. There is a balance and it is simple minded to assume that businesses automatically raise their rates/prices whenever materials cost go up, rent, employee costs and taxes, etc. The converse is also true. Just because you give a new tax break to a business does not mean they automatically pass those savings on to the consumer. I find it interesting to hear how so many 'conservatives' are against putting more money into the hands of rabid consumers like we are in this country.

Posted by: mauroacc | October 6, 2008 4:35 PM

In presidential politics, the VP candidates are called the attack-dogs.
Does that make Palin a attack-b***ch?

Posted by: vip00000 | October 6, 2008 4:35 PM

"You call her sexist epithets and distort her name by calling her McPalin. Do you ignorant liberals not see that's also be racist? Slapping 'Mc' in front of Palin's name is very derogatory to irish-americans."


Uh. McCain + Palin = McPalin.

I wish I had some of whatever you guys are smoking. Damn...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 6, 2008 4:33 PM

carolinanc2002, do you have any formal schooling? Just curious.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 4:32 PM

I cannot believe I USED to respect McCain at one time. I am ASHAMED of him from watching him on TV a few minutes ago. Instead of talking about how HE is going to lead the country, what solutions he has to offer - articulate them, and talk in detils of HIS PLANS for the country, he (and Palin) are going after Obama's character. Palin does what she is told to do but McCain too?? SHAME on you, john.
You can still be a hero by showing what YOU have to offer in tomorrow's debate, rather than doing after Obama. At this rate you WILL lose. And lose BIG. Be a man, John.

Posted by: vip00000 | October 6, 2008 4:31 PM

Do you really think that if at a Palin rally with 100's of cameras and sound recording devices someone said "kill him" regarding Obama that there wouldn't be a tape of it to hear/see already? And if so, do you think that this blog -- 7 hours or so after the rally -- would be the only place where it has been reported [at least from Googling the news for "kill him"]? If it had been made and truly audible, are you saying that the GOP wouldn't have issued a statement about it by now? If you answered yes to any of these questions, turn in your license to engage in intelligent discourse immediately. From reading the main entry, it is at best uncertain whether the alleged speaker was referring to Ayers or Obama. Moreover, there is absolutely no indication that Palin heard the alleged remark as to be able to denounce it. Get a grip!

As to the Weathermen and killing police officers, I'll admit there were no convictions regarding the same. OJ likewise wasn't convicted of murder, but there was some evidence. I'm attaching a Wikipedia excerpt as to one of the bombings in which a SFPD cop was killed and another was severely injured and which the evidence, and I'll be generous, points to the Weathermen and Ayers. Actually, had they survived, the 3 Weathermen that died contructing a nail bomb to attack a dance at Ft. Dix would have been charged with felony murder [when death, even of a co-defendant, occurs during the commission of a felony].

I wouldn't want either but if given the unsavory choice of association with a terrorist like Ayers or inappropriate dealings with Keatings, give me Keatings any day.

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

In a bombing that took place on February 16, 1970, a pipe bomb filled with heavy metal staples and lead bullet projectiles was set off on the ledge of a window at the Park Station of the San Francisco Police Department. In the blast, Brian V. McDonnell, a police sergeant, was fatally wounded while Robert Fogarty, another police officer, received severe wounds to his face and legs and was partially blinded.[17]

While no group has ever claimed responsibility for the bombing, it has been attributed several times to the Weathermen,[18][19] and Weatherman leader Bernardine Dohrn has been suspected of involvement. At the time, Dohrn was said to be living with a Weatherman cell in a houseboat in Sausalito, California, unnamed law enforcement sources later told KRON-TV.[20] An investigation into the case was reopened in 1999,[21] and a San Francisco grand jury looked into the incident, but no indictments followed,[20] and no one was ever arrested for the bombing.[21] An FBI informant, Larry Grathwohl, who successfully penetrated the organization from the late summer of 1969 until April 1970, later testified to a U.S. Senate subcommittee that Bill Ayers, then a high-ranking member of the organization and a member of its Central Committee (but not then Dohrn's husband), had said Dohrn constructed and planted the bomb. Grathwohl testified that Ayers had told him specifically where the bomb was placed (on a window ledge) and what kind of shrapnel was put in it. Grathwohl said Ayers was emphatic, leading Grathwohl to believe Ayers either was present at some point during the operation or had heard about it from someone who was there.[22] In a book about his experiences published in 1976, Grathwohl wrote that Ayers, who had recently attended a meeting of the group's Central Committee, said Dohrn had planned the operation, made the bomb and placed it herself.[23] In 2008, author David Freddoso commented that "Ayers and Dohrn escaped prosecution only because of government misconduct in collecting evidence against them".[22][24]

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 6, 2008 4:30 PM

Again I hear nothing from you lefties other than bashing this woman's name. You call her sexist epithets and distort her name by calling her McPalin. Do you ignorant liberals not see that's also be racist? Slapping 'Mc' in front of Palin's name is very derogatory to irish-americans. However, you all scream racism when someone questions his experience (or lack thereof). I would love to retaliate and call obama "munkobama" or "curious hussein". But I'm not going to do it, because I am above all you demonizing libs!!

Posted by: carolinanc2002 | October 6, 2008 4:22 PM |
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what the hell are you talking about! you sound ignorant! mcpalin is mccains and palin last name put together! then you go into a racial rant! what the heck is that about! what is derogatory is that indiviual in the crowd at palins event yelling "kill em" what is derogatory is mccain/palin injecting false claims of the ayers relationship! what is derogatory is mccain/palin being against major women rights the MODERN women care about! what is derogatory is mccain picking a highly unqualified V.P. pick just because she is woman! what is derogatory is your comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rinny_1983 | October 6, 2008 4:29 PM

GO PALIN! TELL THE TRUTH GIRL! GO FULL FORCE! MAY PLAIN BE OUR PRESIDENT!

Posted by: therealword | October 6, 2008 4:28 PM

The press was banned from this crowd of supporters in fear that something "negative" might be reported.

Sounds like more Bush Bubble Propaganda from "maverick" Palin!

Jingoism delivered with a sickly sweet coating. Disgusting and pathetic.

Posted by: marSF | October 6, 2008 4:26 PM

The reporter, Dana Milbank, needs to be sure the secret service was notified.

The idea that somebody at a Mccain/Palin rally was openly calling to kill Obama is not a small matter and reporters need to demand answers about whether or not authorities were notified.

Was the guy even removed from the rally?

Posted by: poplicola | October 6, 2008 3:26 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I got into it with some guy that was praising George Bush on ABC's message board. I said I'd like to give him one right between the eyes because of the deregulation he put in place for the coal mining industry in W. Virginia that is poisoning the water and killing people. ABC sent the Feds to my house. The guy that came told me he works 80 hours a week going from house to house checking people out that posted stuff on the net. He said he can't wait until Bush is out of there because it's driving him crazy. You don't get in trouble for saying you'd like to do something, but when you say you're going to do it then your in trouble.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 6, 2008 4:26 PM

I'm not saying terrorists are right....but who's to say we are right?

I get the feeling too many people might answer god to that. Which, in my opinion, is why most wars start (or 7 year conflicts if you prefer). We need to focus on the separation of church and state. Seems as though too many people think solely on the basis of their religion and their god, and somehow believe they're conducting god's will. Anyone ever stop and think terrorists probably are thinking in the same manner??

ONCE AGAIN, don't take this the wrong way terrorism is wrong on all accounts. It just makes me think that every terrorist nation is fed up with how we constantly stick our nose into others affairs.

Whoever posted that Ghandi quote (where he said he likes christ, just not his christians) was on point. A little off topic, but here's another good one....

The only difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has it's limits. -Albert Einstein

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 6, 2008 4:26 PM

What would the Republican ticket do if Obama decided that turnabout was fair play? He could bury Palin! With factual information, readily available for checking. Instead he continues to attack the issues. We all know about her croneyism (hiring her friend as the head of agriculture because she liked cows?!, trooper gate, AIP, HER minister, and on and on. She really should be quiet with the attacks and stick to the issues. I don't want to hear all of this. I want to know how you plan on getting our troops home from a war we should not be fighting. When will the war be over? When all 4 major oil giants have negotiated contracts in Iraq after 36 years? I am sick of hearing this woman rant about nonsense. I am sick of the Karl Rove ventriloquist act!

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 4:25 PM

"Just listened to McCain's latest speech and the shouting crowd, give them a few more days and they will have the hate whipped to a fever pitch."

When every sane person is worried about the economy tanking, only the deadenders will pay any attention.

America has already made its decision, McCain and Palin going super-negative is driving any chance to regain any relevance into the sewer. Literally.

America is in no mood for the BS McCain and Palin are spouting.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 6, 2008 4:23 PM

Again I hear nothing from you lefties other than bashing this woman's name. You call her sexist epithets and distort her name by calling her McPalin. Do you ignorant liberals not see that's also be racist? Slapping 'Mc' in front of Palin's name is very derogatory to irish-americans. However, you all scream racism when someone questions his experience (or lack thereof). I would love to retaliate and call obama "munkobama" or "curious hussein". But I'm not going to do it, because I am above all you demonizing libs!!

Posted by: carolinanc2002 | October 6, 2008 4:22 PM

Stick a fork in her, she's done! Perhaps even, a little overcooked.

Posted by: BlkPwr | October 6, 2008 4:21 PM

Hmmm... The mention of "Kill him!" seems to be kind of a throw-away line in this story. I believe your headline for this article should have been "... as Ignorant Audience Threatens Obama's Life".

Posted by: Teebob2000 | October 6, 2008 4:21 PM

Just another Repulsive Party racist. What else is new?

Posted by: 1Greensix | October 6, 2008 4:21 PM

lets analyze mc cain a little
first, whats with the bad comb over. a little insecure. cant be proud of the bald spot. com on john wear it proud. always clasping his hand, whats this another sign of insecurity.
keeps claiming to be a war hero, really, thats three planes he lost, a hero no. poor pilot yes. goes out and gets a hockey mom to be a running mate. he's her little hero, and always will be. if he makes it to office (HAHAHAHA)she will make sure he takes his meds. by golly, you know i hope they do make it. bush was a idiot, but these two will bring laughs to all of us middle class people in the soup lines. thanks to the republican party.

Posted by: cocksmen1 | October 6, 2008 4:19 PM

please consider emailing this article to friends so that others can hear her deafening silence when the man yelled "kill him."

folks should know that she had the chance to show character and leadership and INTEGRITY and would not.

This is not some minor election trivia---THIS ONE THING SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT HER.

SHE WOULD NOT REJECT A CALL FOR DEATH ON OBAMA.

Please let the world know who she is. This is profoundly shocking. Make sure all see this, please.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 4:15 PM

to cryos.. re-read my post. Can't see why it's contradictory.. unless you're assuming I'm a rabid Democrat! If the Democrats blocked Fannie/Freddie reform, then they were fools. Your post seems to assume the crisis is just down to this toxic debt! It isn't, unfortunately.

Posted by: bostonlincs | October 6, 2008 4:13 PM

Mooselini

"A regular little Mussolini, isn't she?

Posted by: blarsen1"

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 6, 2008 4:11 PM

Lets see now,

We are in the middle of a historic world wide economic crisis that is the culmination of 8 years of Republican rule

-and this BS is what Palin chooses to talk about???

Do thay have a plan?

Apparently not.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 6, 2008 4:11 PM

Clearly the McCain campaign is foundering like the Titanic. Americans want solutions to their problems, not talking points from political spin doctors.

Trying to hold Obama responsible for something that happened when he was 8 years old is so utterly silly that I can only guess that it was Palin's own idea.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | October 6, 2008 4:10 PM

CROWD CHANT DEATH TO OBAMA AND PALIN DOES NOTHING!

Put a fork in her.

Posted by: blarsen1 | October 6, 2008 4:10 PM

she should have stopped and rejected the man who yelled "kill him".

Any decent human would have.

What a hater this woman is. What a deranged hater to keep quiet after that remark. That is seriously flawed person. How sick and repulsive. I hope everyone sends this article to friends. People should get to see who she really is. An extremist hater.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 4:09 PM

Ayers, Wright, Rezko, yeah we've all heard that news already. Fox news played this to death when Hillary tried to use it. Notice she lost.

Honestly McCain people, is this the best you got? November 4th is coming!

Posted by: fortheclueless | October 6, 2008 4:07 PM

bdhoray, yes, democrats hate America. That's why they want to make sure that EVERYONE's constitutional rights are protected. If you actually BELIEVE in what the constitution contains, you hate America. That's pretty well sums up Republican logic.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 4:06 PM

It's about time for some paragraphs.

"It's about time ...

http://www.obamamccainbidenpalin.info

Posted by: parsonsscott"

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 6, 2008 4:05 PM

A regular little Mussolini, isn't she?

Posted by: blarsen1 | October 6, 2008 4:05 PM

There's a reason Palin is resorting to extreme desperation. She's afraid she might never get to scream "Oh Mr. President" when she climaxes.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 4:03 PM

yah, burn Bill Ayers. He IS A TERRORIST.

Posted by: johnson313 | October 6, 2008 4:03 PM

Posted by: parsonsscott | October 6, 2008 4:00 PM

Palin is conducting a verbal lynching. Here are the facts: Bill Ayers and Barack Obama have been linked during their time in the city of Chicago, where they lived three blocks apart and led charges for education reform in the state of Illinois. The two met "at a luncheon meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper."[39] Obama was then named to the Chicago Annenberg Project board to oversee the distribution of grants in Chicago. Later in 1995, Ayers hosted "a coffee" for "Mr. Obama's first run for office."[40] Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 2000 and 2002, during which time the board met twelve times.[40] Ayers also contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001."[39] Since 2002, there has been little linking Obama and Ayers.[40] Obama says he has not visited Ayers during the presidential campaign. The senator said in September 2008 that he hadn't "seen him in a year-and-a-half."[41] In February 2008, Obama spokesman Bill Burton released a statement from the senator about the relationship between the two: "Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous."[39] CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the volunteer projects in which the two men were involved.[42] Internal reviews by The New York Times, The Washington Post, Time magazine, The Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic "have said that their reporting doesn't support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship."[43]

Posted by: dee9 | October 6, 2008 4:00 PM

Cryos, go study your Teddy Roosevelt. He was the Obama of his time and, with the regulations he put in place, everything, including the economy, improved drastically, while corruption was cut down.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 3:56 PM

democrats are pathethic, they really dont care about america, the're begging for so called cahnge so much that they'd rather put someone who was befriended by someone with terrorist ideals as President. democrats, it always about them, never america

Posted by: bdhoray | October 6, 2008 3:56 PM

As I read this I though for sure you were going to say Kill Baby Kill.

Just listened to McCain's latest speech and the shouting crowd, give them a few more days and they will have the hate whipped to a fever pitch.

"I think McCain and McPalin should rethink their campaign slogan, "Drill baby Drill".

How about "Smear the Fear"? Sounds good to me.

BELLAMARY"

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 6, 2008 3:50 PM

As thrilling as it is to learn that Governor Palin has actually picked up a newspaper at this point, I sure do wish she’d focus a little more of her limited attention on current events - you know, like, oh, say, THE ECONOMY, and maybe a little less on ancient, distorted, and meaningless history.

It’s like the McCain/Palin ticket is now saying, “Look, we know we’re at war in two countries, and we’re in one of the worst financial messes in our country’s history, but we’re not really all that interested in solving YOUR problems at this point - that simply won’t get us elected. We will now concentrate on covering OUR campaign problems and inadequacies up under a mountain of manure thrown at our opponent, and we are REALLY HOPING you’re STUPID enough to buy it.” How pathetic, and quite frankly, how scary.

“Country First” my great aunt Fannie! This is conduct unbecoming - blatantly dishonorable and shameful behavior.

“I knew you guys would react that way, okay...” is what Ms. Palin said.

“Kill him!” is what one of her listeners is reported to have said.

To stir that kind of RADICAL passion in a follower - Governor Palin, you must be SO proud!

The comments made by her here are not designed to bring a country together, but rather, to incite hatred and division. We are a country that has already had more than it’s fill of “You’re either with us or against us” manipulative political crap from the Bush administration. How ironic that the lines being spoon-fed to this insipid twit are about an acquitted home-grown terrorist, and are designed to make the American people afraid of her ticket’s opponent? Inciting fear...Wow! - By Republican standards, it may well be Ms. Palin who is now acting like a terrorist. It's ok, though...I'm sure if they try to bring her in for questioning about it, she'll simply ignore the subpoena.

I am writing this from one of those hard-working middle-class kitchen tables, and I can assure you that the sarcastic, parroting, lipstick-wearing pitbull without an ounce of integrity, sincerity, or believability DOES NOT represent me or my America.

Posted by: MutherBear | October 6, 2008 3:47 PM

It was Karl Rove in the crowd making that statement!

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 3:40 PM

Wowzers. Just replace the "Kill Him!" with "Burn Him!" and we'll be right where Palin wants us!

Trickle-Down economics would probably be great.... if the top 5% in our country weren't largely self-absorbed, greedy, worthless individuals (see: THE HILLS). In this country it should probably be called MINE MINE MINE economics or, "What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine."

Posted by: thunkaboudit | October 6, 2008 3:39 PM

Gator-ron you have the right to your opinion but I am done debating your posts since you keep going off on tangents and using analogies that don't really make sense. If you want to buy into Obama's economic policies that's fine. Democrats have never found something they can't tax and regulate more.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 3:38 PM

snesich: She should of stopped and said THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!

Sarah Palin did not. She concurred and forged on. This is an endorsement of the person who shouted "Kill him" meaning assissinate Barack Obama.

Posted by: koko1920 | October 6, 2008 3:38 PM

bellamary:

There is a difference between disagreement on issues .... and threatening to assassinate someone.

That's not being worked up....that's just UN-AMERICAN.

Posted by: koko1920 | October 6, 2008 3:35 PM

Your post makes no sense. It sounds like YOU are the one that has to recognize the economy has changed. It is a global economy not "corporations versus the people" 1950s attitude the democrats try to portray.

Maybe it is YOU that needs to stop whining and adjust to the realities of a global economy. Working the same job doing the same thing for 40 years without educating yourself = failure. Adapt and overcome or expect to be poor.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 3:15 PM

For right now the only tax breaks should be going to those companies who create jobs in this country and tax loop holes that have supported companies moving jobs overseas need to be ended. It has nothing to do with corporations versus individuals. It has to do with a failure to create jobs in this country and stimulating profit formation in areas of the economy, the financial sector, that benefitted few at the expense of many. They are being weeded out. They will be replaced by businesses that produce jobs in this country, e.g., construction and alternative energy,

I understand that without horses the economy won't grow but we do not want to finance those businesses to sow feilds in foreign nations. That is reality now and you do not get it. The reality after the economy has recovered is probably above my pay grade. But what I am sure of is Obama has a better grasp of the economy than Mccain does and here is a reference in the capitalistic magazine The Economist that supports me.

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127

I'll be signing off now but if you are still spouting you ideology that is no longer relevant since Lehman Bros. went under I will return later to refute it.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 3:33 PM

matsumurakarate:

Be careful...if you are threatening the life of a sitting U.S. Senator...there are consequences.

Posted by: koko1920 | October 6, 2008 3:32 PM

Will anyone ask Palin and McCain if they agree with the person at her rally who called out "Kill Him!" when she mentioned Obama's name?

Posted by: snesich | October 6, 2008 3:29 PM

Little Miss. Troopergate should worry about her own problems. Even if Obama was best friends with Ayers, who cares. Does that make Obama a closet terrorist? The only people that listen to this nonsense are her Air Head supporters. And most of them aren't even old enough to vote.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 6, 2008 3:27 PM

TO matsumurakarate:

IS THAT A THREAT! JUST WONDERING!

Posted by: rinny_1983 | October 6, 2008 3:26 PM

The reporter, Dana Milbank, needs to be sure the secret service was notified.

The idea that somebody at a Mccain/Palin rally was openly calling to kill Obama is not a small matter and reporters need to demand answers about whether or not authorities were notified.

Was the guy even removed from the rally?

Posted by: poplicola | October 6, 2008 3:26 PM

Palin and McCain sound kind of desperate. Kind of shrill. Maybe they've been seeing the latest polls.

Posted by: snesich | October 6, 2008 3:25 PM

leeh11281 - EXCELLENT post. Tax credits has been the way to hide spending and "welfare" across the board. In my opinion you should never get money back from the government your liability should just be able to be reduced to 0. I wasn't aware how many of the credits Obama wanted to make refundable.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 3:25 PM

"If people like you brought the ideals you claim in blogs to the cash register and didn't buy the cheapest POS product on the shelf US companies could afford the extra costs."


If only we could afford them.

Perhaps you should be asking the wealthy to buy 100x the number of goods to make up for their disproportional compensation...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 6, 2008 3:23 PM

I think McCain and McPalin should rethink their campaign slogan, "Drill baby Drill".

How about "Smear the Fear"? Sounds good to me.

BELLAMARY----

"i'm not saying she's perfect--but more qualified than most are/have been."

If you think McPalin is qualified enough it makes me think you're pretty ignorant to her track record and/or the things she stands for....but I guess that's besides the point. So, why don't we just stick with the fact that you are right she's not perfect. I would really like to know if you can actually name even 3 people she is more qualified than? You got me thinking and I can't think of anyone less qualified than her (that anyone in their right mind would pick as a running mate anyhow)

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 6, 2008 3:23 PM

This place has turned into rubbish box; every one is free to rid of negative emotions to whom it may or not be concerned. Instead you should quickly reorganize and gather at another post, where you all focus your personal capabilities into one solid and persistent blow to the "so seemingly Failing Mcs". What matters is, who will finally win the camPain. The Internet has both negative and awesome influence on those who use it or not. Use it to expose those haters while remaining sane at what and how you communicate to the undecided, and the haters will certainly fail long before the final day of elections. I am not the citizen of your country, but I don't bother to analyze why I read and watch everything about this very important to all people on this planet event. The answer to the current crysis is super simple - STOP WARS. Use diplomacy, maybe assassins like those in "Wanted", but no threats and power-ups. Balance and prosperity can be achieved only under certain states of mind and a spirit. In places of hatred and lies there cannot be any good future. God Blesses you all.

Posted by: rs2mgi | October 6, 2008 3:20 PM

"Cryos: you must be a depraved person to think that people should suffer humility in order to get help. For you sake, I hope you never need it. Yes, we are having budget problems because MITT ROMNEY LEFT US WITH A MESS. Hmmm."

Actually Romney took a completely broken system and made it workable. Maybe if Massachusettes wasn't double paying hospitals for illegal immigrant health care you would have the budget to afford other things.

Also I think the word you MEAN is HUMILIATED not HUMILITY. People asking for handouts should be humble but not humiliated. It should be handups not handouts.

Humility - the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc.

Humiliation = 1. an act or instance of humiliating or being humiliated.
2. the state or feeling of being humiliated; mortification.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 3:20 PM

IThe fact you think it is irrelevant in the short term just shows short sightedness (hmmm kind of like Barney's 2003 statement "Fannie/Freddie are fine".

The economy must survive. You seem to want to kill the heart attack analogy. The patient needs short term treatment which does not involve heavy exercise even though after recovery it does.

With respect to Fannie and Freddie that is a problem that has left the ICu and the economy is in the ICU now and if we do not watch out will be on a ventilator. I will just comment that those who espouse an ideology when defeated in argument chose to change the subject. Your pride may be hurt but if you don't want to talk about the current economic crisis, I have no ideology to espouse so I'd rather not argue for the sake of arguing.

If you wish to argue your thinking and talk about a time frame some time in the future you may even find that I will agree with you in part. But this country can not go back to the type of economy we had in Bush's term.
It is politically unfeasible and it will be some time before the financial sector is in condition to respond.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 3:18 PM

She's quoting from an article that contains the following conclusion:

"A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”

Twenty-nine days until this vile woman goes back to Alaska.

Posted by: abernste | October 6, 2008 3:17 PM

Oh My,

Palin must be getting to a few of my liberal friends. :-)

Funny that they are the first to call foul, along with racism, hate mongering, etc..

Be careful what you wish for, you just may get what you want.

At this very moment, I am pretty well fed up with both sides. But I am not quite ready to vote in God's chosen one (according to that ding-bat Pelosie).

Should be an interesting month ahead!


Posted by: matsumurakarate | October 6, 2008 3:17 PM

if anything i mean anything happens to obama enlight of palin and the mccain camp invoking false claims on obama association with ayers.... BLOOD WILL BE ON JOHN MCCAIN HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you all can take this for a joke (republicans)!!!! but this is serious and outrageous! god is watching and evil will not prevail!!!!

Posted by: rinny_1983 | October 6, 2008 3:17 PM

"They have to make a profit or go out of business so about the only way they can compete is to outsource to a cheaper cost of labor."
Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:45 PM |

I hate to break you the news that companies that do not create jobs in the US while the economy is in such peril may have to go under, if they can not survive till recovery.

All of us want prosperity but that can not be achieved on the back of American workers whose whose economic heath you and your associates have parasitized. The economy has changed and you will have to also.

Stop your whining.

Posted by: Gator-ron"

Your post makes no sense. It sounds like YOU are the one that has to recognize the economy has changed. It is a global economy not "corporations versus the people" 1950s attitude the democrats try to portray.

Maybe it is YOU that needs to stop whining and adjust to the realities of a global economy. Working the same job doing the same thing for 40 years without educating yourself = failure. Adapt and overcome or expect to be poor.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 3:15 PM

What a shame american people!
WILLIAM AYERS he's a PROFESSOR of UNIVERSITY,well accuse BARACK OBAMA terrorist;go get that WILLIAM AYERS put him in jail.what he's doing ouside there teaching?

Time to retire with whatever his left of your dignity Mr MCCAIN bye!!!

OBAMA BIDEN 08!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 6, 2008 3:14 PM

NEFlorida, you were doing somewhat okay until this: "...and that all of a sudden we are no longer living in a free republic, but a socialist society that was relinquished to a handful of smooth talking traitors..." IF you truly believe what you wrote, then I'm not sure there's much I can say to you to change your perspective (only that the completely overwhelming majority of Americans probably would not agree with your assessment of things). IF, on the other hand, you said it to be provocative, then you have shown your hand, and you have completely undermined the argument you purport to make.

Posted by: hogtown00 | October 6, 2008 3:14 PM

aren't the obamas on the defense today! LOVE it! i'm not saying she's perfect--but more qualified than most are/have been. Same for McCain, yet all seem to keep comparing her to 'bama..I don't want to hear the race bull either, Condaleeza would have had my vote! BTW--I looked up maverick--2. a lone dissenter, as an intellectual, an artist, or a politician, who takes an independent stand apart from his or her associates. So, since you know how to use a computer, maybe check ur facts b4 getting too cocky eh?? Now, somebody might have to explain that def to ya, be sure they do it sssllllooowwwllllyyy!
Shalom Aleichem my brothas--go eat a bean pie! (oh yea, white tax payin' devil sitting right here!)

Posted by: bellamary | October 6, 2008 3:13 PM

"Cryos, I live in the bluest state in the country, Massachusetts. There is nothing here but emergency transitiona assistance and the humility people have to go through to get is in itself a deterent. Where are the people you are talking about.

Posted by: PleaseChange"

Good if that is true its about time. As far as I'm concerned you have the right to what you've earned; everything else is BS. Massachusettes has been having major budget problems so I wouldn't put up Mass. as a role model btw.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Cryos: you must be a depraved person to think that people should suffer humility in order to get help. For you sake, I hope you never need it. Yes, we are having budget problems because MITT ROMNEY LEFT US WITH A MESS. Hmmm.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 3:13 PM

Under Obama I would pay about $500 dollars less than I do now. If you are going to try and scare people with numbers like "he's going to raise my taxes 50%" at least tell how you arrived at that magic number. Don't believe everything you hear on conservative tv or radio.

Posted by: mauroacc

Hi Mauro, I was paying $300+ every paycheck in taxes before the Bush tax cuts. I now pay less than $200 every paycheck. You do the math. This will apply to you as well.

Barack Obama's tax plan is the opposite of supply-side economics. He proposes to raise marginal rates for just about every federal tax. He also proposes a raft of tax credits that taxpayers can receive if they engage in various government-specified activities.

Moreover, the tax credits would mostly go to those who pay little or nothing in federal income taxes. His trick is to make the tax credits "refundable." Thus, if the tax credit is for $1,000, but the taxpayer would otherwise only pay $200 in taxes, the government would write a check to the taxpayer for $800. If the taxpayer pays nothing in federal income taxes, the government would pay him the whole $1,000.

Such credits are not tax cuts. Indeed, they should be called The New Tax Welfare. In effect, Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand a slew of government spending programs that are disguised as tax credits. The spending on these programs is then subtracted from the total tax burden, in order to make the claim that his tax plan is a net tax cut overall.

On the tax side of the ledger, the details released by his campaign confirm what a President Obama has in mind for our most productive citizens. The top individual income tax rate, for example, would be increased by 13%, to 39.6%; the next-highest rate would be raised to 36%. The top rates on capital gains and dividends would rise by a third, to 20%. Social Security taxes would also rise significantly.

Mr. Obama also wants a permanent federal estate tax, with a top rate of 45%; his health-insurance plan includes a new payroll tax on employers; and he also contemplates several increases in the corporate income tax, including a new so-called windfall profits tax on oil companies.

Then there is the spending side of the ledger. Mr. Obama proposes a fully refundable Making Work Pay Tax Credit, which would have the government pay out $500 to each worker and $1,000 to couples -- reminiscent of George McGovern's 1972 election proposal for the government to send a $1,000 check to everyone.

His American Opportunity Tax Credit would provide a $4,000, fully refundable tax credit for college tuition expenses. His Mortgage Interest Tax Credit would provide a 10% credit -- refundable -- to offset mortgage interest payments for lower- and middle-income families. His Health Care Tax Credits, which the campaign says "will ensure that health insurance is available and affordable for all families," include "a new refundable 50 percent health tax credit on employee premiums paid by employers."

Currently existing tax credits would also become spending programs in the Obama tax program. The Savers Credit would be made fully refundable, and would be expanded, according to the campaign, "to match 50% of the first $1,000 of savings for families that earn under $75,000." The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit would be made refundable and expanded to allow "low-income families to receive up to a 50 percent credit on the first $6,000 of child care expenses."

The Earned Income Tax Credit is already refundable. Mr. Obama would expand it to "increase the number of working parents eligible for EITC benefits, increase the benefits available to noncustodial parents who fulfill their child support obligations, increase benefits for families with three or more children, and reduce the EITC marriage penalty, which hurts low-income families." In short, welfare spending is to be increased by paying more money out to low-income income tax filers.

The latest Congressional Budget Office data shows the bottom 40% of income earners already pays no income taxes. Indeed, they receive a net payment from the federal income tax system -- meaning from the taxpayers -- equal to 3.8% of all federal income taxes, because of the refundable tax credits under current law. The middle 20% of income earners, the true middle class, pays 4.4% of federal income taxes.

Overall, the bottom 60% of income earners pay less than 1% of federal income taxes on net. When "tax credits" primarily go to this group in the form of checks from the government (rather than a reduction in their tax burden) it is simply an abuse of the language to call the spending a tax cut.

Consequently, to say, as the campaign does say, that the candidate's tax plan is a tax cut on net -- and that it would limit taxes to 18.2% of GDP -- is grossly misleading. The Obama tax plan would sharply increase real taxes. It also would come nowhere near to paying for the massive increases in federal spending he has proposed, including the spending that is disguised in the form of refundable tax credits.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 3:11 PM

There is a right way, and a wrong way to disagree. To incite violence against someone is the WRONG way. She should apologize for not taking someone to task for their threat against a candidate. She's stepped over the line. John McCain have you lost all your integrity. Tell her to STIFEL

Posted by: koko1920 | October 6, 2008 3:10 PM

Palin is whipping up crowd hatred to the point where people are yelling, "Kill Obama"?? I thought we were finished with the KKK in this country. This woman is downright nasty and has no business running this country!

Posted by: GenuineRisk | October 6, 2008 3:07 PM

"If people like you brought the ideals you claim in blogs to the cash register and didn't buy the cheapest POS product on the shelf US companies could afford the extra costs.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Please like me? How the hell would you know what I buy at the cash register? I say buy American products and support American workers. I am a union girl and proud of it. Even when it costs more it's worth it. You are making assumptions again based on your own prejudices. That's very sad. You are way too toxic, I'm out of here."

Well then you are an exception. The fact is all these great ideals rarely make it to the cash register. Companies have to deal with what people DO not what they SAY.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 3:05 PM

"Trickle down was also known as the horse-and-sparrow theory: If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows."
Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:56 PM

In your analogy the horses are gorged and too fat already and the sparrows are staring. Under those circumstances feeding the oats will cause the horse to vomit and putting out seed will feed the birds without harming the horse.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 3:05 PM

Hey Dano111...first off, very impressive copying/pasting skills. umm, just because no one is harmed or died as a result of Ayer's bombing doesn't mean it's not terrorism. What left wing blog did you copy that from? Oh yea, I like the child molester analogy....ridiculous!!!

Posted by: carolinanc2002 | October 6, 2008 3:05 PM

Dano111----

I think McPalin is as unfit to be in office as everyone else....hopefully everyone anyhow. But, why not focus on issues that matter to the election of the President and Vice President of our country. We already know she lies, cheats, and hides from the real pertinent issues....So why bother focusing on smearing her with non-sensical BS. We don't need to go to McPalins level of smearing. All we need to do is talk about the turmoil our country is in and the fact that it's not changing and McPalin is not going to help.

GOBAMA!!!

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 6, 2008 3:03 PM

"Kill him!"? Did they throw the guy out? If not, these people are truly deranged.

The day of Sarah Palin's introduction to the national scene will be remembered in infamy. What a nasty piece of work. She is even more despicable than Karl Rove.

Posted by: bird52 | October 6, 2008 3:02 PM

If people like you brought the ideals you claim in blogs to the cash register and didn't buy the cheapest POS product on the shelf US companies could afford the extra costs.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Please like me? How the hell would you know what I buy at the cash register? I say buy American products and support American workers. I am a union girl and proud of it. Even when it costs more it's worth it. You are making assumptions again based on your own prejudices. That's very sad. You are way too toxic, I'm out of here.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 3:02 PM

IN WEST HOLLYWOOD, SARAH CAN GO FOR THE ROUGH STUFF, AT A BOUTIQUE CALLED 'THE PLEASURE CHEST'
SOON, MOOSEBURGER MIGHT HAVE A ROUGHER HIKE OVER THE 'TROOPERGATE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE'
_______________

We must take our country back from Ali Mohammad McCain and Osama Bin Palin! My Friends..If they want to play the blame game with silly tactics flavored with racial overtones and list Barack Obama's name with terrorists, muslims, thugs, resko/ayres fibs, anti-hillary accusations, & flag pins; We must demand the following GOP/McCraziac issues come to the forefront and be answered in the media:
~Keating 5 www(dot)KeatingEconomics(dot)com
~Fundamental Deregulator
~Deregulation of Social Security
~Deregulation of HealthCare
~Enron Loophole
~100 Year War Monger & $Trillions$ Spent On Iraqi War
~Vicki Iseman
~Brokaw/McCain Friendship
~Infidelity/Adultery
~Anti-Catholic
~Tax Break Elimination
~Voted Against Equal Pay & Equal Rights For Our Mothers, Sisters, Daughters, Grandmothers, Nieces, Aunts, Wives, & Girlfriends
~Temperament-Erraticsism, Is There A Blood Relation Between McCraziac & Bill-Had-Sex-With-A-Show-Intern-O'Reilly ?
~McCain Campaign Lobbyist ie. Rick Davis & 169 more Lobbyists
~Andrew McCain + Nevada based Silver State Bank
~Andrew McCain + CMKM Diamonds,better known as CMKX
~Palingate/Troopergate Criminal Investigation
~Palin's REV.THOMAS MUTHEE Witchdoctor Video
~Betrayus With A Surge To Nowhere In Iraq
~US Council For World Freedom; Radical, Dangerous & Racist Organization
~Voted Against Veteran Benefits At Home
~4th Stage Cancer
~Anheuser Busch(Budweiser)Cindy Mccain #1 National Debate Sponsor
~*Straight Talk America PAC, *Altria Group, *American Issues Project, *National Campaign Fund, *Vets For Freedom
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
www(dot)mccainslobbyists(dot)com

www(dot)mccainsource(dot)com

www(dot)therealmccain(dot)com/butler

www(dot)mudflats(dot)wordpress(dot)com

www(dot)plnewsforum(dot)com/index.php/forums/viewthread/39966

www(dot)phoenixnewtimes(dot)com/1989-11-29/news/mccain-the-most-reprehensible-of-the-keating-five/1

www(dot)rationalrevolution0(dot)tripod(dot)com/war/bush_family_and_the_s(dot)htm

www(dot)republicansexoffenders(dot)com

www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

McCain Campaign Has Strong Ties To Corporate Lobbyists At Center Of Bailout
www(dot)thinkprogress(dot)org/2008/09/22/mccain-campaign-lobbies-bailou

McCain on Special Interest, Lobbyists and DC Sleaze—What you should remember
www(dot)personals(dot)nymag(dot)com/blog/1069/post_78180.html?dcb=personals(dot)nymag(dot)com

Media advance myth of McCain as lobbyist foe
www(dot)mediamatters(dot)org/items/200802260009

the McCAIN BUSH GRAMM foreclosure plan: called BIG BANK BAILOUT (4 more years of BUSH PILLAGE?)
www(dot)miami(dot)craigslist(dot)org/mdc/pol/850631984(dot)html

NOW, IF YOU NEED TO KNOW MORE, PUT "credit default swap + Mccain lobbyists" INTO THE GOOGLE SEARCH BAR
AND YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THE UNETHICAL THEFT THAT MCCAIN HAS PULLED OVER THE EYES OF ALL THE LOW INFORMATION AMERICANS THAT WILL VOTE FOR HIM. IT IS DISGUSTING AND IT'S THE SAME LIPSTICK ON THE SAME PIG!

Posted by: wyattobamanation | October 6, 2008 3:02 PM

bhuang2:

I liked your post. You are a good person.

Posted by: koko1920 | October 6, 2008 3:01 PM

He is so angry that a black man is beating him that he is willing to compromise his promise of a clean campaign.

Again McCain is letting his anger show.

Posted by: mbshults | October 6, 2008 3:01 PM

"They have to make a profit or go out of business so about the only way they can compete is to outsource to a cheaper cost of labor."
Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:45 PM |

I hate to break you the news that companies that do not create jobs in the US while the economy is in such peril may have to go under, if they can not survive till recovery.

All of us want prosperity but that can not be achieved on the back of American workers whose whose economic heath you and your associates have parasitized. The economy has changed and you will have to also.

Stop your whining.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 2:59 PM

If the “character and integrity card” is all that McCain has left to play, then let's not forget to talk about multiple adultery; divorcing his first wife while she's in the hospital and one month later marrying an extremely rich woman 18 years younger; the Keating Five S & L scandal which he first tried to blame on his wife; having an explosive temper and impulsive, erratic nature; having a long history of gambling; compromising principles by making a 180 degree flip-flop to pander to the religious right to get the Republican nomination; the John Hagee debacle; boorish remarks about Chelsea Clinton; pandering to Southern racism by refusing to condemn the confederate flag flying over South Carolina's statehouse. And everyone will be fascinated by this 2000 quote from McCain: “Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it.”

Posted by: hogtown00 | October 6, 2008 2:59 PM

Palin and the McCain campaign have, up to this point, gone to some efforts to avoid the subject of religious affiliations. That's because Palin's spiritual past contains, like Obama's, stark political liabilities. At her old church, the Wasilla Assembly of God, Palin discussed both the Iraq War and the construction of the $40 billion Alaska national gas pipeline as projects touched by God. Her old pastor Ed Kalnins suggested that people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would not be accepted in heaven and argued that terrorists and Iraq were part of a war "contending for your faith." A guest pastor at that church personally blessed Palin by asking Jesus to protect her from the perils of witchcraft.

More recently, Palin's attended a Wasilla Bible Church sermon conducted by the founder of Jews for Jesus, David Brickner, who made several remarkable claims about terrorism in Israel.

"Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real," he said. "When Isaac was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment -- you can't miss it."

Palin, by all accounts, didn't "get up and leave" the pew.

She also said in a misquote "Women who dont support women will go to hell".

Posted by: Dano111 | October 6, 2008 2:58 PM

"Trickle down was also known as the horse-and-sparrow theory: If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.

As one of the sparrows I have seen too few of the oats and mostly the horses#$t."

What level of education do you possess?
What kind of job do you work?

If your answer is high school education and an unskilled labor job boo-hoo. You should be seeing mostly the horses sht and you can go to some worthless 3rd world country where they think mindless dead end jobs are a blessing.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:56 PM

PALIN BOMBSHELL!

Why wasn't Sara Plain at least 7 months pregnant in this public, unaltered Governors photo taken with President Bush in February 2008?

Her baby was supposedly born on April 18, 2008.

http://www.subnet.nga.org/centennial/2008Meeting.htm (Feb, 2008) Click "view larger photo".

This photo is from March 14th 2008, where she clearly is not pregnant:

http://www.daylife.com/photo/0fcQ5EM7gafd9

Finally, she is also on the cover of December issue of Vogue which was taken December 12, 2007. She should have been 4-5 months preganant. Clearly shes not.

Reportedly, her water broke the day before or hours before she gave birth in Texas and flew 8 hour to Alaska in labor? Would a doctor/ the airline allow this?

Posted by: Dano111 | October 6, 2008 2:56 PM

Sarah Palin: pretty on the outside. Vile, ugly, disgusting on the inside. And notice how these attacks are taking the focus off of her utter lack of competentcy for the job. We've already elected a criminal (Nixon), sleazebag (Clinton) and drunken liar (George W) to the highest office in the land, why not go with a vile, empty headed, disgusting dolt. SuckFarah08 MuckFcCain08.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 2:54 PM

"I'm glad to see you've been working hard and I hate to say it but life should be hard for single parents. There should be incentive to work hard and people should be dirt poor if they're making $20K a year with a kid. I realize that sounds cold hearted but otherwise what motivation would people have to do anything with their lives if they could pop out kids and live comfortably with a deadend job."

But what about the kids? What have THEY done wrong? What kind of future will THEY have? This is the land of opportunity, but that opportunity is lost for many people.

This is why I'm a liberal and a supporter of welfare. Some people are a disgrace to America. Their children should not suffer because of it. More poverty equals more crime. We need to break the cycle...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 6, 2008 2:54 PM

"Human nature is that many people will only do what they need to to survive.
Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:42 PM
--------------------+++---------------------------
Though what you say is true it is irrelevant over the short term. The middle class has been taken advantage of by your ilk and that will have to be remedied first. Just like you do not put a person who has had a heart attack on an rigorous exercise program, you do not ignore the ones who are suffering the most and have the least financial reserves to rely on. What are you, a recording.

Posted by: Gator-ron"

IThe fact you think it is irrelevant in the short term just shows short sightedness (hmmm kind of like Barney's 2003 statement "Fannie/Freddie are fine".

Helping low income and minorities own a home IS WHAT GOT US TO THESE ECONOMICS PROBLEMS. I guess the housing issue must be irrelevant in the short term also.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:54 PM

AgnosticEngineer - Thanks for the extra wrinkle in the gray matter.

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 2:53 PM

Oh, Palin, do tell:

What FILTHY LYING SMEARS WOULD JESUS TELL? Just curious.

Posted by: kissmygrits | October 6, 2008 2:53 PM

So giving a tax break to the rich will help this?

I suspect the tax plan that benefits the most consumers will do the most to stimulate the economy.

Trickle down was also known as the horse-and-sparrow theory: If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.

As one of the sparrows I have seen too few of the oats and mostly the horses#$t.

"If people like you brought the ideals you claim in blogs to the cash register and didn't buy the cheapest POS product on the shelf US companies could afford the extra costs.

Posted by: Cryos"

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 6, 2008 2:53 PM

Apparently Palin is inciting violence against Obama. Talk about terrorism. This is what the GOP has come to. By the way, was the guy arrested?

Posted by: gtinla | October 6, 2008 2:52 PM

"I want poor kids to die from cavities and to punish them for having dumb stupid parents.

I approve this message!!

-pissed off conservative that hates poor kids

Posted by: bhuang2"

Some people are too dense to realize when you subsidize parents bad behavior "for the children" you end up with generation after generation of kids having kids and whining about how they need help.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:51 PM

Human nature is that many people will only do what they need to to survive.
Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:42 PM
--------------------+++---------------------------
Though what you say is true it is irrelevant over the short term. The middle class has been taken advantage of by your ilk and that will have to be remedied first. Just like you do not put a person who has had a heart attack on an rigorous exercise program, you do not ignore the ones who are suffering the most and have the least financial reserves to rely on. What are you, a recording.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 2:50 PM

The "kill him" comment tells the kind of fringe voter Palin appeals to.

Posted by: gtinla | October 6, 2008 2:50 PM

PALIN: MS HUBRIS, USA
In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride and arrogance; it is often associated with a lack of knowledge combined with a lack of humility. An accusation of hubris often implies that suffering or punishment will follow, similar to the occasional pairing of hubris and nemesis in the Greek world. The proverb "pride goes before a fall" is thought to sum up the modern definition of hubris. In reference to someone being in hubrity: hubrity is a fulfillment of being hubristic or a continual behavior of being prideful. Victor in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein exudes hubris in order to become a great scientist, but is eventually regretting this previous desire. Faustus in Christopher Marlowe's play Dr. Faustus exudes hubris, all the way until his final minutes of life.

Posted by: nacnudbob | October 6, 2008 2:50 PM

I find it so sad that Americans are talking to, or at each other with such venom. To offer some perspective, the person yelling "kill him" could just as easily come from the Obama side. We must stop this hateful exchange and stop and think do we really understand what direction our country will move in after this election is said and done? Have those Obama supporters who are so ready to scream "racist" to anyone questioning Senator Obama's integrity, really vetted him for themselves or are some of us latching on and hanging on for dear life because we so much want to believe there is a leader who will do what's needed, and we see this man who looks the part, talks the part, and we just won't allow ourselves to doubt for a moment that he isn't who he and his handlers say he is? Please, let go of the need to hate anyone who doesn't believe the way you do. Please stop before it's too late and at least consider that maybe, just maybe we all need to take a deep breath and ask a few questions, a few tough ones, and not accept a half-assed answer that doesn't really answer anything regarding who he really is. I fear we will wake up in the near future and find that we've voted away part of what makes America great, that we'll find that far, far-left leaning politicians are every bit as whacko as far, far right, and that all of a sudden we are no longer living in a free republic, but a socialist society that was relinquished to a handful of smooth talking traitors, who garnered support and money for their movement from wealthy movie stars whose origins are middle class and out of guilt for their accomplishments and new found wealth, fall into the socialist traps along with downtrodden or disillusioned middle class people like us who are so sick of it all we're easily fooled. We are not wrong for wanting better. We are wrong for not educating ourselves on our candidates. Both parties. We need a Centrist party and we need it soon!

Posted by: NEFlorida | October 6, 2008 2:49 PM

"Cryos, I live in the bluest state in the country, Massachusetts. There is nothing here but emergency transitiona assistance and the humility people have to go through to get is in itself a deterent. Where are the people you are talking about.

Posted by: PleaseChange"

Good if that is true its about time. As far as I'm concerned you have the right to what you've earned; everything else is BS. Massachusettes has been having major budget problems so I wouldn't put up Mass. as a role model btw.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:48 PM

Sarah "when does the talent portion of this debate begin?" Palin...

Perfect Republican Puppet...

No sense of history.
No grasp of reality.
No education.
No conscience.

Just hyper-patriotic, mean spirited, pro-war rhetoric.

America is finally fed up. Moderate, free-thinking Christians rejoice! The end of the so-called "Christian Right" is near!

Posted by: shoemiaw | October 6, 2008 2:47 PM

Nice to see so many other people actually thinking not just believing what's put in front of them.....too many ignorant people in VA i guess.

It's pretty funny the only thing left to do on the republican side is dig in the dirt. Quit playing and start finding ways to bring our country back on top....AND NOT BY IMPERIALISM. Any other ideas???? I've heard so much about the change McCain will bring. That's all I heard though....No actual thoughts or ideas on how to do that. I like the fact that OBAMA hasn't resorted to smear tactics yet. Focus on the issues and McCain is going down.

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 6, 2008 2:47 PM

30 Fact checks about Ayers/Obama

LIE: "My view is that the community organizer was really a sham event. Bill Ayers was testing him."(Andy Martin, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")
TRUTH: Bill Ayers had nothing to do with Obama's community organizing job. It's pure lunacy to imagine that Ayers was "testing" Obama.

LIE: Obama's "community organizing is a grand scheme perpetuated by none other than William Ayers."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")
TRUTH: Obama's community organizing was not a vast conspiracy for revolution devised by Bill Ayers.

LIE: "They live half a mile from William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist" and "Just a half a mile from those homes is Louis Farrakhan."(Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")
TRUTH: It's true, of course, that Obama lives in this same neighborhood, as do tens of thousands of other people who presumably are also guilty by geographical association. The logic of this argument would be, if you live half a mile from a sex offender, then you agree with child molesters.

LIE: Obama and Ayers "appeared together at various public engagements...it would seem that they are more than just a little bit friendly."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")
TRUTH: Appearing on a speaking panel is not a sign of friendship. There is no evidence that Obama had any role in ever inviting Ayers to speak.

LIE: In 1995, Ayers and Dohrn "hosted a political coming out party for a young Barack Obama."(Sean Hannity, Hannity's America, October 5, 2008, "Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism")
TRUTH: This was an event for Alice Palmer, not a "coming-out party" for Obama. Obama was invited by Palmer to the event.

But long before tonight's Hannity, the right-wing has been spreading a series of lies about Obama and Ayers.

LIE: "Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist."
TRUTH: Bill Ayers is not, and apparently never was, a terrorist. The conventional definition of a terrorist is someone who tries to kill innocent people for political purposes. As Factcheck.org noted, In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground. (Factcheck.org)

LIE: "I'm sure he's very patriotic, but his relationship with Mr. Ayers is open to question....Because, if you're going to associate and have as a friend and serve on a board and have a guy kick off your campaign that says he's unrepentant, that he wished he'd bombed more. And then, the worst thing of all, that I think really indicates Senator Obama's attitude, is he had the incredible statement that he compared Mr. Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist -- an unrepentant terrorist, with Senator Tom Coburn. Senator Coburn, a physician who goes to Oklahoma on the weekends and brings babies into life.' (John McCain, April 20, 2008, ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos)
TRUTH: Obama was not friends with Ayers. Ayers did not kick off Obama's campaign. And Obama was not comparing Ayers' actions with Coburn. Obama was pointing out that he works with people even when he disagrees with them.

LIE: "Obama's oldest friend in politics is a murderer and unrepentant terrorist. Why are they friends?"(ExposeObama.com email, Sept. 7, 2008)
TRUTH: Ayers isn't Obama's oldest friend in politics.

LIE: Ayers was "Obama's boss."(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)
TRUTH: The chair of a foundation board is not the boss of the members.

LIE: Jerome Corsi claimed Alice "Palmer would never have introduced Obama to the Hyde Park political community at the Ayres-Dohrn home unless she saw an affinity between Ayers and Dohrn's radical leftist history, her own history of far-leftist politics, and the politics of Barack Obama."(p. 137)
TRUTH: The event wasn't held primarily for Obama. It was Palmer's own announcement that she would run for Congress. Obama was there as Palmer's endorsed successor for her Senate seat, but there's no evidence that he had any role in deciding to hold it at Ayers' home.

LIE: Jerome Corsi claims about Obama: "either he did not know Ayers and Dohrn are still radical leftists--in which case he is implausibly naive--or Obama did know, which would confirm he joined with Ayers and Dohrn because Obama too continues to believe, albeit silently and secretly, in the Far Left's radical agenda."(p. 140)
TRUTH: Obama probably knew Ayers was a leftist, but he didn't care. Obama believes in the notion of a free society, where you work with people you disagree with.

LIE: "Even today, Ayers appears to hold the same radical political beliefs he did in the Weather Underground, and Obama had to know that was also the case when he first met Ayers in 1995."(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)
TRUTH: Corsi doesn't explain how Obama "had to know" Ayers' views on politics when he first met him. Telepathy? Mind-reading?

LIE: David Freddoso calls Obama's distant connection with Bill Ayers "a remarkable relationship for a presidential nominee to have."(p. 122)
TRUTH: It reality, it's not remarkable at all. The notion that people should resign from foundations and refuse to speak in public in order to avoid any connection to a former radical never convicted of a crime is absurd.

LIE: "The major media simply have not reported on Obama's two years at New York's Columbia University, where, among other things, he lived a mere quarter-mile from former terrorist Bill Ayers."(Tony Blankley, September 24, 2008)
TRUTH: Thousands upon thousands of people lived near Bill Ayers in Manhattan. Obama didn't know Ayers.

LIE: Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval. (Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence to support his claim. Ayers was one of several people involved in starting the group, and was not its guiding spirit. According to the New York Times reporting, Obama was recruited by other CAC leaders who knew him through the Joyce Foundation.

LIE: Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda. (Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence that Obama and Ayers worked as a team. Ayers attended six meetings of the group along with Obama.

LIE: "Obama is hanging around with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. By the way, Bill Ayers advertised himself as being a communist with a small c just when he was beginning to
partner with Obama on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Stanley Kurtz, Hudson Institute, Washington DC, October 1, 2008)
TRUTH: Contrary to this McCarthyist attack, there's no evidence that Obama ever knew that Ayers supposedly called himself a communist, nor is that a good reason for Obama to end his work on school reform and charitable activities.

LIE: "who provided Obama with the only executive experience he has ever had in his young life? Bill Ayers, unrepentant domestic terrorist, communist revolutionary... (Joseph Farah, World Net Daily, October 2, 2008)
TRUTH: Ayers did not provide Obama with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge job. And Obama has also had executive experience in community organizing, running a voter registration drive, as well as running his campaigns. The New York Times reported, "In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama's appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year."(Scott Shane, New York Times, October 4, 2008)

LIE: "Barack Obama is friends with Ayers, defending him as quote 'respectable and mainstream.'"(American Issues Project ad, August 2008)
TRUTH: David Axelrod described them as "friendly," not friends. Obama didn't call Ayers respectable and mainstream (although Ayers now is); Obama's campaign on his website posted an op-ed in the press that described Ayers that way.

LIE: "I can't understand why somebody who wants to be president of the United States, I'll be perfectly honest with you, would want to associate or not condemn the actions of people in the past."(Paul Ragonese, April 27, 2008, Fox News' Hannity's America)
TRUTH: Obama has condemned the past actions of Bill Ayers and called him somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago. (April 16, 2008 debate)

LIE: "Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval."(Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence to support his claim. Ayers was one of several people involved in starting the group, and was not its guiding spirit.

LIE: "Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda."(Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence that Obama and Ayers worked as a team. Ayers attended six meetings of the group along with Obama.

LIE: About Bill Ayers, "Barack Obama really couldn't bring himself to say 'you know, I really don't like that guy.' That was too much for him to say. He had to talk about what a decent guy he is and what a good professor."(Jim Geraghty, "Hype: The Obama Effect")
TRUTH: There is no record of Obama during the campaign calling Ayers "decent" and "a good professor." In fact, Obama really did bring himself to criticize Ayers, denouncing him during a Democratic debate as "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago."

LIE: "Obama was feted at a fundraising event" at Ayers' home.("Hype: The Obama Effect")
TRUTH: Obama never had a fundraising event at Ayers' home.

LIE: Barack Obama and Bill Ayers had a close working relationship...the two of them were running the foundation together. (Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel's Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence of a "close working relationship" beyond attending a few meetings together. The notion that Obama and Ayers were the only ones running the Chicago Annenberg Challenge is absolutely false.

LIE: "The most important smoking gun is that Barack Obama was funding Bill Ayers' radical educational projects."(Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel's Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: This is false. Obama was the president of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, not its dictator. There's no evidence that Obama made any funding decisions. Moreover, it would have been completely unprofessional for anyone, including Obama, to ban Bill Ayers from receiving funding for educational projects because of alleged radical activities decades earlier which Ayers was never convicted of. Kurtz has no evidence that projects were judged based on anything other than their merits. This is a pure smear by association.

LIE: Emails "give us strong evidence that there may have been a cover-up in Bill Ayers' role choosing Barack Obama."(Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel's Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: This is a fabrication. The email Kurtz is referring to shows absolutely no kind of cover up. In fact, it shows exactly the opposite. In his blog, Kurtz quotes the entire email Ken Rolling wrote to CAC founders Warren Chapman and Anne Hallett and notes that Sam Dillon, Education Reporter for the New York Times, was working on an article. Rolling wrote about Dillon, He is trying to understand how Barack got 'picked' for the CAC board, by whom, why, etc. - I have avoided that question head-on though I believe Barack was Debbie Leff's/Joyce nomination." This email reveals no kind of cover-up, and the New York Times article found several sources that said Obama was not picked by Ayers.

LIE: "There is a secret group in the Obama-Biden campaign tasked with shutting off any leaks from the record that links Barack Obama to his longtime adviser and mentor Bill Ayers, professor of education at the University of Illinois and unrepentant Weatherman terrorist and fugitive from the 1970s....There is a substantial independent report from a major Democratic source that confirms Diamond's suspicions. The source confirms the unit is led by Bill Ayers himself and likely includes Tom Hayden and other members of 'Progressives for Obama.' Most critically, the Democratic source says this unit has direct access to media adviser David Axelrod of the Obama-Biden campaign."(John Batchelor, Human Events, September 12, 2008)
TRUTH: There is no "secret group." Hayden reports, "I am not part of any effort, personal or organized, trying to protect Obama against any leaks." The notion that Ayers is leading the "unit" is laughable. According to the University of Illinois library, "all papers have been available since August 26" about the school reform group that Ayers and Obama worked on. Diamond, the source cited for the existence of the "unit," declares, "I have no evidence of such a unit." Diamond added, "I told Batchelor that I would not speak to Human Events yet he made up a quote from me and placed it in his article."

Crossposted at ObamaPolitics.

Posted by: Dano111 | October 6, 2008 2:46 PM

I want poor kids to die from cavities and to punish them for having dumb stupid parents.

I approve this message!!

-pissed off conservative that hates poor kids

Posted by: bhuang2 | October 6, 2008 2:46 PM

"FYI business and commerce are what drive the nation and economy. Without competitive business we lose out in the global market. THat is why intelligent nations don't tax their companies overseas.
Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:18 PM

Yeah, cause that's been working for us so well over the last 8 years. Snore.

Posted by: PleaseChange"

Yeah that is whats been happening. US companies have much higher cost of labor and tax liability than their foreign competition. They have to make a profit or go out of business so about the only way they can compete is to outsource to a cheaper cost of labor.

If people like you brought the ideals you claim in blogs to the cash register and didn't buy the cheapest POS product on the shelf US companies could afford the extra costs.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:45 PM

"Kill him"???

That really just says all we need to know about what Palin's doing, doesn't it?

Posted by: wtm1 | October 6, 2008 2:45 PM

Nonsense. McCain's plans will carry larger deficits and give stimulation of the economy through a faltering financial system that will not be able to assist in recovery. Obama's plan puts money directly in the economy and will net benefits to the middle class immediately. You are arguing a position that McCain will no longer talk about. Perhaps he realizes that his plan is unsuitable for current circumstances and he won't say it because of the political repercussions.

We could have had this discussion three months ago and I would have disagreed but now we have a plunging stock market and an ailing banking system. The old system has closed down and a new system will have to replace it. We can not afford to give tax advantages to companies who do anything but create jobs here.

To think otherwise is wrong headed politically and for at least the short term economically as well.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 2:44 PM

"AgnosticEngineer,

I'm not sure how you arrive at $25k/yr for welfare recipients unless you're including medical benefits,food stamps and housing assistance. The actual cash benefit is on average $300/mo. But I DO agree with what you are saying."


Just quoting a non-partisan research group. It takes into account housing assistance, childcare, and other benefits...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 6, 2008 2:43 PM

"Single parent's making $20k can get up tho $70k thru subsidies and tax credits?

Wish I had known that when I was making around $20k and had a child in diapers. I couldn't even get food stamps. The only help I had was with childcare costs, and that ran out after a couple years.

I earn much more now and my child is middle school aged. The reality is, however, that my increase in income did not increase our standard of living by very much. Rent, groceries, gas, healthcare, etc. keep going up faster than my salary. We have always had to mind every penny. The idea that lower income and single parents are living high on the subsidized hog is pure rubbish.

Posted by: vegmom"

I'm talking about $70K worth of income but that does depend where you live. Many of the benefits are from the state not the fed. The 70K is figuring 2 kids and I live in a welfare friendly state where we import welfare cases from around the country.

Child care - several hundred dollars a month

WIC/food stamps - not sure

Section 8 housing - Potentially $1K+ a month

Tax rebate - Up to over $3K for one child I think.

Tax liability - At $20K you get thousands of dollars back from the government. At 70K you're in the 28% bracket for federal as well as higher brackets for states. There is probably a tax liability difference of at least 10K.

I'm glad to see you've been working hard and I hate to say it but life should be hard for single parents. There should be incentive to work hard and people should be dirt poor if they're making $20K a year with a kid. I realize that sounds cold hearted but otherwise what motivation would people have to do anything with their lives if they could pop out kids and live comfortably with a deadend job. Thats one of the "benefits" of socialism that leads to a country's downfall because innovation and motivation are taken away. Human nature is that many people will only do what they need to to survive.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:42 PM

TIME TO RETIRE WITH WHATEVER IS LEFT OF YOUR DIGNITY,AND A GRACEFUL WAR.
Mr MCCAIN

OBAMA BIDEN 08!!!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 6, 2008 2:40 PM

FYI business and commerce are what drive the nation and economy. Without competitive business we lose out in the global market. THat is why intelligent nations don't tax their companies overseas.
Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:18 PM

Yeah, cause that's been working for us so well over the last 8 years. Snore.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 2:39 PM

As a life-long Florida resident, I can verify that there is a very strong racial bias in most Florida residents - even among the so-called devout Christians. Floridians are very hypocritical about their attitudes toward humanity. I attribute this perverse anomaly to residual ethnic and cultural resentments and fears dating back to the Civil War. Floridians - and other southerners - fear Black people, resent them, and too often, outright hate them for myriad and specious reasons. That Sarah Palin is being cheered on in her brazen lies about Barack Obama does not surprise me in the least. She is merely spouting what Floridians desperately want to believe. What all this implies is for you to determine. As for the truthfulness of it, any honest Floridian will agree that it is so.

Posted by: dajerryguy | October 6, 2008 2:39 PM

Someone should ask: If William Ayers is so dangerous...why isn't he in jail? Why is he serving on charitable boards, and teaching at Universities?

What is missing here?

Posted by: koko1920 | October 6, 2008 2:38 PM

"You go ahead and blind yourself to the truth; no one is stopping you. Welfare definitely still exists regardless of your refusal to admit it."

Posted by Cryos.

Cryos, I live in the bluest state in the country, Massachusetts. There is nothing here but emergency transitiona assistance and the humility people have to go through to get is in itself a deterent. Where are the people you are talking about.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 2:35 PM

"Palin's energy relief: $1,200 each

ONE-TIME PAYMENT: Lawmakers have mixed reactions to latest proposal."

"Environmentalists and others have said Palin is encouraging consumption rather than conservation by handing out money. Conservative critics have attacked it as socialism, comparing Palin to Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez."

http://www.adn.com/legislature/story/442702.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 6, 2008 2:34 PM

"You will pay a lot more in hidden costs. That is the big kicker. People who examine things at face value forget what happens when you tax companies higher; a company has to make a profit so they merely increase the product costs to cover the liability. So you will pay more for fuel, fuel and most every other necessary product and commodity."


If that were true, the inverse would be too. Lower taxes on corporations and investors should have driven down the cost of these. Nope. Instead they pocketed obscene profits.

You can't SELL a product unless there is someone who can AFFORD to BUY it. We have propped up our economy on home equity and credit for too long. The working class (read CONSUMERS) of America cannot afford to keep growing our economy. Not unless someone is willing to fairly compensate them for their time. The executive to worker salary ratio is at an all time high.

The "trickle down effect" is a lie...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 6, 2008 2:34 PM

They lost my vote.

Why would Sarah Palin incite violence against Senator Obama, a sitting Senator and Presidential candidate? Why didn't she address this right away, and stop and say...that is NOT acceptable.

If anyone made a threat on her or John McCain's life, I would expect the same from the Obama Camp.

I hope the Secret Service finds this individual and locks him up for a long time. If anything were to happen to Senator Obama - she and John McCain are solely at fault.

Posted by: koko1920 | October 6, 2008 2:34 PM

FYI business and commerce are what drive the nation and economy. Without competitive business we lose out in the global market. THat is why intelligent nations don't tax their companies overseas.
Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:18 PM

________ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______

For your information this economy is headed to the ICU. There you worry about survival not profits. Once the economy is back on its feet and the middle class get on their feet again, what you say will be relevant. Right now your position seems very elitist. Are you not aware that we are in a global recession if not worse and that the competition is in as much trouble as we are?

You are simply too self centered. It is a big world out there and the rules of the road will be changing. Ours and the rest of the worlds economy will not be the same again. Right now you better take a communal view of this mess or you may be part of sinking us all just like John McCain would be.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 2:32 PM

Why isn't it front page news that Palin is inciting people to kill Obama?

Posted by: ccatmoon | October 6, 2008 2:30 PM

""Vote for me I'll tax big oil and give you $1000."" -- Cryos

And this is different than what Palin did for the state of Alaska? Oh, wait, that was $1200 per person to the tune of $741 million.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html

What a socialist Palin is.

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 6, 2008 2:30 PM

"Cryos, when will you stop with the "welfare collecting constituents" tune. This is continued rhetoric from the right-wing politicians and talking heads (Rush, are you out there?). Welfare as we knew it is gone. There is no safety net in this country except for the rich corporations and the richest 1%. Can we all move on from this cliche?

Posted by: PleaseChange"

You go ahead and blind yourself to the truth; no one is stopping you. Welfare definitely still exists regardless of your refusal to admit it.

Blah blah blah Rush. Its sad how liberals always have to resort to "Rush." I dont listen to that jackazz. Welfare is still there and people making "low income" have been subsidized also. Close to 40% of people pay no income tax.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:30 PM

Sarah Palin better to tend to her own knittin' there, she's gonna have problems aplenty in the next few days, also. Seems since one of those legislating-from-the-bench Alaskan judges decided that Troopergate should go forward. Now 7 state employees agree to testify in ethics probe of Palin's abuse of power.

Her record as governor is amazing! It took McCain years to get involved in ethical problems, but Palin is the target of two investigations in less than two years! How did she do it? This woman is amazin', you betcha.

Oh, and she released her tax returns. Too bad that guy at the H n' R Block office there didn't ask her about the per diem reimbursement for stayin in her own house there. Probably it's taxable also.

Guess if you're Vice President with all that authority, you're darn right you call up the IRS and tell them to quit investigatin'!


NEWS FLASH: Caribou Barbie's "mediums" for news about the US is revealed: She reads Starbucks coffee cups.

Then, being Caribou Barbie, proceeds to misquote them. The misquote reveals The Cheerleader from the Arctic State believes that women should vote for McCain / Palin because there is a woman on the ticket.

She has a case of "hoof-in-mouth" disease.

"At a rally on Saturday in California, Sarah Palin offered up a rather jarring argument for supporting the Republican ticket. "There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women," the Alaska Governor said, claiming she was quoting former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.

The statement came after Palin had recounted a "providential" moment she experienced on Saturday: "I'm reading on my Starbucks mocha cup, okay? The quote of the day... It was Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State [crowd boos] and UN ambassador. ... Now she said it, I didn't. She said, 'There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women.'"

Actually, Albright didn't say that. The accurate quote is, "There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't help other women."

Even funnier, Palin went on to say...

"Okay, now, thank you so much for receiving that well. I didn't know how that was gonna go over. And now, California, let's see what a comment like I just made, how that is turned into whatever it'll be turned into tomorrow with the newspaper."


All they did was to point out that Sarah can't even get the coffee cup right, and that her misquote seriously twist's Albright's words.

Yet more proof that there is such a thing as "Sarah's world".

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 6, 2008 2:30 PM

Posted by: leeh11281: "The Constitution, though, actually says the vice president is always president of the Senate and legal scholars say he has the right to preside at any time. Early vice presidents, such as Thomas Jefferson, actively exercised that role..."

An interesting and valid point but the VP can cast no vote unless there is a tie and cannot introduce legislation. Therefore "presiding over the Senate" unless there is a voting tie to be broken consists of hanging out with the Senators and observing the process of law making. Such activity was probably interesting to a legal scholar and intellectual like Thomas Jefferson.

Your earlier post said "Vice President is part of the Legislative Branch" when IN FACT the office is not part of the Legislative Branch but defined in Article 2 of the Constitution as being part of the EXECUTIVE branch.

The VP's responsibilities, as defined in Article 1, are in the Legislative Branch but his Official, Constitutionally defined Office is as a member of the Executive Branch as defined in Article 2.

I'll take the Constitution's word for it since it is the defining document.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 6, 2008 2:29 PM

Single parent's making $20k can get up tho $70k thru subsidies and tax credits?

Wish I had known that when I was making around $20k and had a child in diapers. I couldn't even get food stamps. The only help I had was with childcare costs, and that ran out after a couple years.

I earn much more now and my child is middle school aged. The reality is, however, that my increase in income did not increase our standard of living by very much. Rent, groceries, gas, healthcare, etc. keep going up faster than my salary. We have always had to mind every penny. The idea that lower income and single parents are living high on the subsidized hog is pure rubbish.

Posted by: vegmom | October 6, 2008 2:28 PM

Funny patriotic America loving Palin's husbhand was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. She claims to love America, but her husbhand is part of an organization that wants Alaska to secede from America. Her husbhand is a bona fide traitor, I think she should be careful about playing the associations card.

I think the Obama campaign should highlight this fact and her vodoo witchdoctor blessing in Florida. By the way the voodoo witchdoctor Palin was getting blessed also denounced jews as saying they control America's economy.

I'll see you an Illnois professor who committed his crimes when Obama was 8 years old, and I raise you a traitor for a husbhand and an anti-semitic witch doctor.

Posted by: socalcrimatt | October 6, 2008 2:27 PM

AgnosticEngineer,

I'm not sure how you arrive at $25k/yr for welfare recipients unless you're including medical benefits,food stamps and housing assistance. The actual cash benefit is on average $300/mo. But I DO agree with what you are saying.

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 2:25 PM

"Under Obama I would pay about $500 dollars less than I do now. If you are going to try and scare people with numbers like "he's going to raise my taxes 50%" at least tell how you arrived at that magic number. Don't believe everything you hear on conservative tv or radio."

You will pay a lot more in hidden costs. That is the big kicker. People who examine things at face value forget what happens when you tax companies higher; a company has to make a profit so they merely increase the product costs to cover the liability. So you will pay more for fuel, fuel and most every other necessary product and commodity.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:25 PM

Did you know: the names Bristol and Piper are the modern day equivalents of BamBam and Pebbles.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 2:23 PM

Lets pretend McCain dies of a heart attack. Then she is in charge. So do you hardcore republicans still believe in her.

If obama and mccain were not on the ticket.

The race was between Biden and Pahlin. Who would the county be more willing to follow.

Seriously let have a show of hands.

Joe has been a carreer politician and knows how the world works.

Pahlin, makes rash decisions and can't even have disscussion without others doing her thoughts.

Go Joe

Posted by: ccrowley | October 6, 2008 2:23 PM

Cryos, when will you stop with the "welfare collecting constituents" tune. This is continued rhetoric from the right-wing politicians and talking heads (Rush, are you out there?). Welfare as we knew it is gone. There is no safety net in this country except for the rich corporations and the richest 1%. Can we all move on from this cliche?

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 2:23 PM

To understand why we are at "this" point in this election, it is important to see the nature and character of "this" man Obama. His acquaintances, mentors, maneuvers, denials and misdirections all indicate major major inconsistencies which generate: questions of judgement; questions of character; questions of capability; questions of trust; questions of commitment; questions of who[m] he is going to serve.

When these questions and vagaries prominently exist - people add old time standard dimensions in which we attempt to scale and measure a person -- we go back to the person's character, record and history. This campaign has gone beyond the comparison of political promises and agendas -- most of which are party dictated. We are in the "meat grinder" now. The candidates lives are about to turn into a billboard on the highway. This is where political campaigns are won...and political careers end.

Goodbye Mr. and Mrs. Obama. You should've remembered -- Patria Primitus

Posted by: mr_wizard | October 6, 2008 2:22 PM

Palin is a classless c-nt.

Posted by: PhilaMike | October 6, 2008 2:21 PM

Mauro, if you actually look at Senator Obama's tax plan (no matter what you hear on the TV or radio), under an Obama administration, those getting a 'tax credit' are those people who pay NOTHING into the system (not even payroll taxes). I have a job and am expecting my taxes to go up by 50% under an Obama administration (once the 2001 & 2003 tax cuts are repealed). Enough is enough.

Posted by: leeh11281

Leeh11281, that is not correct. I have looked into Obama's and McCain's tax policy on their official websites and I have gone so far as to estimate the differences in my taxes using the calculator provided by the non-partisan Tax Policy Center. Check it out yourself.

http://alchemytoday.com/obamataxcut/

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?Docid=1976&DocTypeID=7

Under Obama I would pay about $500 dollars less than I do now. If you are going to try and scare people with numbers like "he's going to raise my taxes 50%" at least tell how you arrived at that magic number. Don't believe everything you hear on conservative tv or radio.

Posted by: mauroacc | October 6, 2008 2:21 PM

This is all old news but Palin is the new news. As new news she shouldn't be talking about old news because the head of her ticket has no ideas and is slipping in the polls. I thought Mccain/Palin was supposed to be the reformers that were going to reform Washinton of the corruption and greedy Ceo's and executives. Last time I checked Rev. Wright and Ayers weren't apart of the corruption in Washinton or the greedy Ceo's on Wall St. which the duo claimed to triumph on the stump in the past week ago. I think its a big mistake to turn Sarah Palin into a controversial attack dog. Palin energize the republican party some democrats and independents and if her label is tarnished what will the Mccain campaign have with only 30 days before the election. Also, what about Palins political future, I think republicans would rather have Palin than Mccain anyday, she's the one who brought Mccain back to life. With Palin tarnishing her new, Fresh Reformer image with the same slash and burn campaign smear, wouldn't that make her more of the same old politics? Thats not change at all. Thats not energizing at all but I guess Mccain wants to take Palin down with him. Obama was right when he said in North Carolina. This smear Campaign Mccain/Palin is running is an attempt because their, " OUT OF TOUCH, OUT OF IDEAS, AND OUT OF TIME".

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 6, 2008 2:19 PM

"The US may "appear" to have the highest corporate tax rate, however there are so many loopholes that they actually end up paying less than other nations. It's sort of like going to a store and seeing a coat for $200 and getting it for $50.

Posted by: 1freethinker1"

Some companies get away with using loopholes but the vast majority pay near their tax burden. In some cases we do need to allow tax cuts.

With global trade our companies need to be able to compete and many of the companies they compete against are subsidized by their countries. For example Boeing receives a hell of a lot less in subsidies than Airbus and Boeing is highly subsidized.

FYI business and commerce are what drive the nation and economy. Without competitive business we lose out in the global market. THat is why intelligent nations don't tax their companies overseas.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:18 PM

Oh my God, dwashington1, while I see some of your points, but going foward would you mind doing a little editing so that we can understand what you're getting at without so much scrolling? ;-)

Perhaps there should be a character (no pun intended ;-) limit...oye.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 2:16 PM

This is such a disappointment! I come from another country and was recently naturalized as U.S. citizen. In my years of not being able to vote, I always believed and respected the Republican party and it's views. It is so sad for me to read all these things about the Repblican party, McCain/Palin's campaign, it's policies, and in trying to smear the other party. What kind of honor is this, really?

Obama has my vote and I hope he goes for 8 years. I believe he can do more for this country that I have so proudly adopted.

To you so-called Republicans, and Palin for this matter, what a shame to tie Obama to a terrorist. With all due respect, Obama and McCain loves this country as much as I do.

Posted by: kupz73 | October 6, 2008 2:15 PM

"Are the Democrats welfare collectors or Harvard elites? Choose your stereotype and quit flip-flopping! We're at war!"

They are both. The Harvard elites are the ones being elected to office and raising the money (hollywood for example) and they're using the "me" class warfare politics to cater to all their worthless welfare collecting constituents. "Vote for me I'll tax big oil and give you $1000."

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:15 PM

Is it just me? But doesn't Sarah Palin remind you of George W. Bush?

Folsky, UN-informed, sacarstic and full of rhetoric but ZERO substance!

Posted by: Brooklyn81 | October 6, 2008 2:14 PM

The US may "appear" to have the highest corporate tax rate, however there are so many loopholes that they actually end up paying less than other nations. It's sort of like going to a store and seeing a coat for $200 and getting it for $50.

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 2:13 PM

TO DWASHINTONG1,
YOU MAKE ME HAPPY WHEN I READ YOUR POST
THNX!!!

OBAMA BIDEN 08!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 6, 2008 2:13 PM

Wow....I was so scared when I found out McCain chose UNable as his running mate. It's nice to see that now McCain and his cohorts are the scared ones now. Along with whoever is ignorant enough to still support McCain after choosing McPalin. All they have left to talk about is BS that doesn't matter to be president. Obama isn't hiding anything. So if you have a problem with something the media is telling you, maybe you should do some research on your own and figure out if it's true. It's just good to know that atleast someone is focusing on issues that matter for being the president. Such as healthcare, the economy, the war, energy, the economy and the economy. I'd be real interested to see if McCain and unable have any real plans for our country. So far the only plan I've seen is SMEAR SMEAR SMEAR. All I gotta say on that is if you're gonna smear atleast come up with good credible FACTS. Don't just throw some random half truths out there and let the media play telephone tag with them. So please if you're voting (Good for you no matter which way you choose. Atleast this way you did something instead of complaining about things you're not doing anything about, like too many others) but atleast do some thinking for yourself instead of just believing anything people or the media tells you. GOBAMA. Time for new ideas and time for change. We have a great country in great troubles. Time to start thinking about ourselves and stop thinking about holy wars or whatever else GOD wants our leaders to do. What about what we want? On that note, I repeat, GOBAMA.

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 6, 2008 2:12 PM

Witness the reincarnation of Adolph Hitler in female form.

Posted by: moth1 | October 6, 2008 2:12 PM

"You can be a single mom with 2 kids working at a gas station and get a $5,000+ federal tax check MORE THAN YOU PAID as it stands now without more "credits." In addition with all of the subsidies you can turn the $20K a year you make into $70K+. If that isn't wealth redistribution I don't know what is."


Sadly those are very overblown numbers. The reality is, the single mother is better off living off welfare (equivalent to a $25,000/year job) than earning $20,000/year, getting MUCH fewer welfare benefits, and having to cover at least SOME of her childcare expenses out of pocket.

It is not a question of wealth redistribution, but where it comes from and where it goes. The rich have been thriving this past decade on record growth of profits and record low taxes. The average American has seen little to no benefit.

We can't just let the children of the poor starve to death. We shouldn't try to create more poor families either. That leaves one logical conclusion. Those who CAN should help those IN NEED...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 6, 2008 2:10 PM

"Did this really happen???? Is there video???? Why hasn't this been picked up more in the MSM? Are you kidding me?

Posted by: carolcom"

Now you know how republicans have felt THE ENTIRE ELECTION CYCLE. Hillary democrats got to know what it felt like to be a republican in the MSM this year also.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:10 PM

Ignorant, intolerant, vile, disgusting...Oh, I forgot, she's also a Christian. As Gandhi famously said, "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Posted by: pmb72 | October 6, 2008 2:09 PM

shamless1: It is scary. Elections always reminds me of Arthur Miller's, The Crucible in which there a young girl seeks what she can't have and shouldn't ask for. Instead of accepting the truth, she starts a chain of lies that lead to hysteria and the death a lot of innocent lives. Sort of like the McCarthy hearings in the 50s where people were pursecuted for their associations no matter how tenuous or informal they might be. When will we learn that hysteria gets puts us on a bridge to nowhere?

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 2:08 PM

Millions of jobs are lost, people without healthcare, retirement funds going south and Sarah Palin wants to talk about a radical turned college professor that Obama worked with on Charities and Educational fund raisers? Obama was 8, McCain was a grown ass man and in the Senate during the Keating 5!

Which is directly related to the crisis at hand! McCain and Palin sure know how to waste American's time!

Posted by: Brooklyn81 | October 6, 2008 2:07 PM

You know, if all you rebublocraps weren't so scared of Obama you wouldn't even be trying so hard here.-Neon_bunny
Hell yes we're scared of him and his wife. They are scary people.
Just look at who wrote his letter of reference to Harvard. Saul "The Red" Alinksy, a radical muslim. It's in his file and posted on the web. I can't make this stuff up.
What was his wifes thesis about? Pro racial divide. Again, you can read it online.
Didn't they both sit in a racist chrch FOR 20 YEARS? I think there may be some video online about that. I wish I was making this stuff up.
So, yeah we're scared and so should you be.

Posted by: Bobo4bush | October 6, 2008 2:07 PM

""You can be a single mom with 2 kids working at a gas station and get a $5,000+ federal tax check MORE THAN YOU PAID as it stands now without more "credits." In addition with all of the subsidies you can turn the $20K a year you make into $70K+. If that isn't wealth redistribution I don't know what is."

Just as it is wealth redistribution to dump billions into the oil industry already awash in profits for the ostensible purpose of 'prospecting' yet with no oversight. Lets agree to do neither.

Posted by: tweldy"

Yay a "Big oil" kool aid drinker. THE OIL INDUSTRY HAS PAID 3-4 TIMES MORE IN TAXES THAN IT HAS MADE IN PROFITS THE LAST 20 YEARS. Its so sad how gullible people are to believe garbage like that pushed in the MSM. "Corporate welfare" for example. The US has the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:06 PM

I'm sorry but inciting a crowd at a political rally to call for the assasination of an opposing candidate is terrorism.

Did this really happen???? Is there video???? Why hasn't this been picked up more in the MSM? Are you kidding me?

Posted by: carolcom | October 6, 2008 2:06 PM

I'll start taking Palin seriously when she proves that she can do something more than use a teleprompter and read note cards....maybe do something like, I don't know.....give a PRESS CONFERENCE!


Since the McCain campaign settled on the strategy of keeping Sarah Palin from any member of the media not safely in the back pocket of the Republican Party, they have only let her speak to carefully chosen people. And today's recipient of the crying-for-Palin award goes to William Kristol of the New York Times. Kristol's mission? To assist in the McCain campaign's strategy to swift boat Barack Obama.


It seems that Kristol just happened to chat with Sarah Palin on the phone and gosh, you betcha that she thinks saying that Obama "pals around with terrorists" is fair game, never mind that it's not true. And never mind that Palin herself has a very personal association with the America-hating Alaska Secessionist Party (AIP)
.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200809030019
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...a group whose founder damned America and cursed the flag, and was later murdered in a "plastic explosives sale gone bad." But instead of asking about that, Kristol wondered if Jeremiah Wright should be an issue. Well, you betcha. Palin told Kristol:

"I guess, because he didn’t get up and leave — to me, that does say something about character."


Naturally Kristol didn't mention that Obama wasn't present for the incendiary sermons by Wright, nor did he ask Palin why she didn't have the character to get up and walk out during this sermon by Thomas Muthee:


...where Muthee said:


"The second area whereby God wants us, wants to penetrate in our society is in the economic area. The Bible says that the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous. It's high time that we have top Christian businessmen, businesswomen, bankers, you know, who are men and women of integrity running the economics of our nations. That's what we are waiting for. That's part and parcel of transformation. If you look at the -- you know -- if you look at the Israelites, that's how they work. And that's how they are, even today".


Not only did Palin not get up and leave, she joined Muthee on stage (7:10 in) so he could pray over her. And by the way, Palin later credited Muthee's prayer with helping her win the governorship of Alaska".
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl4HIc-yfgM
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But Kristol wasn't interested in asking Palin about her associations with the AIP or the anti-Semitic Thomas Muthee. That wasn't his job.


Of course it should be noted that back in April, when the North Carolina Republican Party planned an ad about Wright, McCain said:

“There’s no place for that kind of campaigning, the American people don’t want it, period,” Mr. McCain told reporters on his bus this morning. He said he had not seen the ad and hoped that he wouldn’t, but that he had been given a description of it.

“I understand that it moves numbers, negative ads do all that, but that doesn’t mean it’s right,” Mr. McCain said.
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/nc-republicans-preview-wright-obama-ad/
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But now that McCain is losing, doing what's right doesn't matter to him because McCain is a LIAR and he always has been.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 6, 2008 2:06 PM

The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, nine trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work. Two thirds of that comes from inheritance; interest on interest accumulating to widows / idiot sons; and stock / real estate SPECULATION. It is crap.

Ninety percent of the American public has little or no net worth.

WALL STREET SPECULATORS create nothing. But through SUPER-CAPITALISM (FRAUD), WALL STREET SPECULATORS OWN THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY. The Super Rich running America are doing it through Las Vegas style gambling. IT IS CRAP!!!

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS make the rules (news, war, peace, famine, upheaval).

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS pick that rabbit out of the hat while the American People wonder how WE GOT INTO THIS MESS.

You are not naive enough to think that we live in a Democracy?

IT'S THE FREE MARKET. And you're a part of it.

GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS have that killer instinct. Stick around, GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS still have more stealing to do.


In a Democracy, the AMERICAN PEOPLE suppose to own AMERICA. That's right, the AMERICAN PEOPLE suppose to own AMERICA.

AMERICANS are being robbed by GOP RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND THEIR WHITE HOUSE / CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES with their:

Obscenely high salaries,
Luncheons,
Hunting trips,
Golf tournaments,
Escort services,
Corporate jets,
GOLDEN PARACHUTES.

Thousands of GOP Republican CEOs and their White House / Congressional Stooges are walking away with over $20,000,000 each of stolen money from the U.S. Treasury (AMERICAN PEOPLE). This Is Treason Against the American People.

CONGRESS YOU NO LONGER REPRESENT WALL STREET SOLELY
CONGRESS YOU NOW REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

THIS IS THE AGENDA
CONGRESS WILL REMOVE ALL GOLDEN PARACHUTES FROM THE BILL
CONGRESS WILL ENSURE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WELL PROTECTED WITHIN THE BILL

CONGRESS WILL PROSECUTE GOP REPUBLICANS ON THE FIX AND WALL STREET SUPER RICH CEO INSIDE TRADERS. THEIR CORPORATE SHARES AND PRIVATE PROPERTIES (DOMESTIC AND ABROAD) WILL BE CONFISCATED AND RETURNED TO THE U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

GREED IS TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF CONGRESS FAILS TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN CONGRESS WILL BE DESOLVED AND A NEW CONGRESS WILL BE PUT IN PLACE TO REFLECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE


SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO CONGRESS IN EXTREMELY SIMPLE TERMS THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COME FIRST.

THE DAYS WHEN CONGRESS ACTED AS THE STOOGE OF GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS HAS COME TO AN END


THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TAKE TOP PRIORITY IN AMERICA

NO MORE GOLDEN PARACHUTES FOR EXECUTIVE CRIMINALS

GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET CRIMINALS PREPARE FOR HANDCUFFS AND ASSETS CONFISCATION


THOSE RICH WALL STREET SPECULATING GOP REPUBLICANS WHO DROVE THE BUS INTO THE DITCH, WILL NOT BE TRUSTED TO DRIVE THE BUS OUT OF THAT DITCH.

SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND THEIR GOP REPUBLICAN HAND PICKED STOOGES IN THE WHITE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION, SENATE, SUPREME COURT, TREASURY, SEC AND CONGRESS TOGETHER HAVE $1 TRILLION WORTH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S ASSETS (DOMESTIC AND HIDDEN ABROAD) THAT MUST BE RETURNED TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.

AMERICA WANTS ITS $1 TRILLION BACK NOW AND CRIMINAL TRIALS FOR ALL INVOLVED IN THIS CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY ARE THE NEW LAWS OF THE LAND.

TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

NO MORE GOLDEN PARACHUTES FOR EXECUTIVE CRIMINALS. GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET CRIMINALS PREPARE FOR HANDCUFFS AND ASSETS CONFISCATION.

THOSE GOP REPUBLICAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES WHO STOLE AND SQUANDERED AVERAGE AMERICANS’ MONEY ON HIGH RISK UNSECURED WALL STREET LAS VEGAS STYLE SPECULATIONS SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED WITH MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR COMPENSATION PACKAGES SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS.

THESE GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN CORPORATE EXECUTIVES, SPECULATORS AND CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES SHOULD BE IN HANDCUFFS. ALL OF THEIR ASSETS SHOULD BE CONFISCATED, LIQUIDATED AND RETURNED THE TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

LET THE TRIALS BEGIN: GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN FLEECING OF AMERICA

CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES VERSUS GOP SUPER RICH GOP REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS

ACT QUICKLY, ACT QUICKLY, ACT QUICKLY
IS NOT THIS THE SAME THING THAT THOSE GOP REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS SAID TO START THE ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR!

LET THE TRIALS BEGIN: CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES VERSUS GOP SUPER RICH REPUBLICAN CRIMINALS (BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PAULSON, MCCAIN) AND THEIR WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALIST SPECULATING FELLOW CONSPIRATOR FRIENDS

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL

THIS GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH WALL STREET MELTDOWN IS CRIMINAL MISUSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S MONEY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL (TREASON)

D STUDENT JOHN MCCAIN FEARS SHARING THE STAGE WITH HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR BARACK OBAMA

MOOSE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SARAH PALIN FEARS SHARING THE STAGE WITH LAW SCHOLAR JOE BIDEN

Hmmm, let's see. We have a bunch of republicans whining about wanting these CEOs to keep their fortunes, multiple houses and cars, and they want the taxpayers to bail them out. But when the taxpayer wanted help to keep THEIR homes, they were called a bunch of whiners by these SAME republicans and were given NO bailout.

Why are their oversized fortunes more important than the rest of America's modest and undersized ones?

Now, for the last time, once and for all, explain to me how Obama is the elitist and the republicans are "just like you and me." Go ahead. I triple dog dare you.


TREASON TRIALS FOR GOP REPUBLICAN SUPER RICH CRIMINALS

$1Trillion Illegal Iraq War plus $1Trillion Wall Street Fraud equals $2Trillion that
GOP Republicans (Bush, Cheney, Rice, Paulson, Guiliani, McCain) and those contributing members of Congress, Wall Street Speculators, and Cabinet who took part in the most Monumental Fraud against the American People owe to Our National Treasury.



GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).

REPLACE GOP REPUBLICAN CEO GOLDEN PARACHUTES WITH CRIMINAL TRIALS AND PROPERTY CONFISCATION. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL PREVAIL AND THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION WILL BE REINSTATED. LONG LIVE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE. CORPORATE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WILL BE THE LAW OF THE LAND.

INSIDE JOB AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL:
GOP REPUBLICAN WHITE HOUSE ILLEGAL WARS AND
WALL STREET CRIMINAL DEREGULATED SPECULATIONS

You asked for it and you got it. GOP REPUBLICANS INSIDERS McCain, Bush, Cheney, Paulson, and Rice were hired by Super-Capitalists (Super Wealthy GOP REPUBLICANS) to start Illegal Oil Wars against Oil producing Nations and DEREGULATE (eliminate AMERICAN PEOPLE PROTECTION) the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (White House, Congress, Supreme Court), TREASURY and WALL STREET. These INSIDERS did exactly what they were paid to do. Past GOP REPUBLICANS (Nixon, Reagan, Bush I) and current GOP REPUBLICANS (Bush II, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Paulson) have a credibility factor of zero. Americans no longer believe them, the World has never believed them and now they are done. They came in with the 9/11 attack upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE and leave with the Wall Street $1Trillion attack upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Wave after wave after wave the GOP REPUBLICANS attack the AMERICAN PEOPLE based on the premise of disrespect for anyone who is not a GOP RICH REPUBLICAN. Either you are in their group (GOP RICH REPUBLICAN) or out (debt ridden worker bee / victim). GOP REPUBLICANS view the AMERICAN PEOPLE as gullible sheep perpetually fattened with debt and led to the subhuman existence slaughter. When slavery (free labor) ended GOP RICH REPUBLICANS attacked and enslaved the people of the world through unbalanced trade. Now that foreign sweatshops are demanding better pay and treatment, GOP RICH REPUBLICANS are attacking the AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS. GOP RICH REPUBLICANS are banking on the idea that the AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS are non-thinking drones fat with artificial food, high on Wall Street sponsored imported drugs (legal / illegal), and choked with clutter, debt and noise.

Through massive GOP REPUBLICAN SPONSORED DEREGULATIONS, GOP REPUBLICAN CEOs, Treasury Secretary, Wall Street Speculators, White House Administration, Cabinet Members, and their insider friends each walked away with more than $20,000,000 annually of money stolen directly from the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE). After eight years of GRAND FRAUD AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, thousands of GOP REPUBLICANS ROBBED OUR UNITED STATES TREASURY OF $1TRILLION (ACTS OF TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE).

The AMERICAN PEOPLE will hold ALL GOP REPUBLICANS INVOLVED in these ACTS OF TREASON accountable before a TRIAL. ALL GOP REPUBLICANS INVOLVED in these ACTS OF TREASON will have ALL OF THEIR PROPERTIES (corporate and private, domestic and foreign sheltered) CONFISCATED, SOLD and RETURNED to OUR NATIONAL TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE). The UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION (WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) shall prevail, despite the criminal efforts of GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER-CAPITALIST CRIMINALS.


CONGRESS WILL NOT ADJOURN UNTIL AFTER THE GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY FIX THEIR COLOSSAL MESS

GOP (GOOD OLDBOY PRIVATEERS)


Britain has nationalized its banks. The U.S. has nationalized Wall Street and will do the same for U.S. Oil if it hits $6.50 a gallon in two years. The Treasury and Oil are too crucial for national defense to be left in the hands of self serving speculators' private greed. The United States greed based society is over. We will copy Britain or Germany’s mixed economy system based heavily on the People government oversight. Speculators and gamblers cannot be trusted with the American economy. Wrong is wrong and wolves cannot be hired to protect cash cows. Today you can gamble in Las Vegas with your credit card (money that you don’t have); Wall Street high leverage speculation is the same thing.

Three weeks ago, some Americans stupidly said that we don’t need to consider World Opinion during the 2008 presidential election. It is now clear that America and The World are closely connected and that we need to consider how the World perceives our decisions. The World does not like John McCain and will not cooperate with McCain. Europeans and the World view John McCain as an old relic bent on returning the World to perpetual hostility.

No one wants another Cold War, except McCain. Palin’s childish perceptions are not worth mentioning, especially with the World watching and laughing at McCain’s choices. Russia does not want another Expensive Cold War, but it will play ball if McCain kicks off. While Bush and McCain are building military bases in Poland, Russia is speaking with Latin American Oil Nations about refining and cutting out U.S. Oil Companies. Next Russia will build military bases in Latin American in response to U.S. bases in Eastern Europe. McCain and Wall Street weapons manufacturers are the only ones who want to profit from a new Cold War. In reality, no one benefits from a new Cold War. The American People, Russian People and World People will be injured by a new Cold War. Expect European demands to be rid of all U.S. bases in Europe. The American People, Russian People and World People want peace and cooperation from the United States led by Barack Obama.

The World loves Barack Obama and has signed a letter of intent to cooperate with America under Barack’s leadership. Throughout the World young presidents are emerging and none of them want to return to the bad days of the Cold War (bomb shelters, high interest rates, disproportionate military spending, nuclear buildup, general fear). Nobody wants the return of the Cold War, except McCain and Wall Street weapons manufacturers. The American People are nationalizing Wall Street to prevent weapons manufacturers from dictating unfavorable terms to our economy. Again the American middle class must see pass their ignorance and the emperor with no clothes (Bush, McCain, Palin, Guiliani). Americans must vote for it’s best interest, which includes a favorable World Opinion. America And The World Will Vote Obama to avert financial and military catastrophes.

Let’s not forget that China, Saudi Arabia and India together hold over $1 Trillion in American currency. Do you think that China, Saudi Arabia and India have votes in the 2008 American election? The CEOs of American companies and Wall Street Banks heavily invested with funds from China, Saudi Arabia and India know that foreign governments will be exercising their strong votes in our election. You can thank McCain deregulations and GOP Republican American job outsourcing for dissipating Our American votes.

Obama has 8 years experience as a State Senator, 4 years in the US Senate, taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, etc. Obama’s very high intellectual capacity allows him to analyze situations and make sound decisions. How can you even compare Palin’s GED from Moose Community College credentials to these?

GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN WALL STREET DEREGULATIONS
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN ALSO WANTED TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY (BONEHEAD)
GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored landmark legislation in 1999 that removed the walls between banks, investment firms and insurance companies. GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN bill allowed a company like AIG to expand beyond its traditional insurance business (which is still profitable) into exotic new extremely high risk products that brought the company down and created this colossal mess.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
THE GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


Average Americans are becoming poorer, because GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET super rich SPECULATORS and corporate CEOs are paying themselves, business partners, friends, and family members at least $20,000,000 annually from MONEY STOLEN FROM THE U.S. TREASURY. These major crimes committed by WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND CEOs have gone beyond greed and into acts of treason against the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Seize the stolen money and properties valued in the $TRILLIONS back from these super criminals for attacking America. Those stolen $MILLIONS / $BILLIONS / $TRILLIONS belong to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

RULE OF LAW states that the People of the United States will be defended. Those who attack American Citizens will be prosecuted. WALL STREET SPECULATORS and CORPORATE CEOs dictatorship over the AMERICAN PEOPLE is over. Average Americans are not going to accept WALL STREET CORPORATE CRIMES anymore. Rights of Citizen and Average Workers of the United States will be enforced. The AMERICAN PEOPLE will always come before corporate interests, because Americans Love America more than Wall Street Speculators love greed.


GERMANY, FRANCE, ENGLAND HAVE GREATER CITIZEN-WORKERS’ RIGHTS, TRANSPARENCY, OVERSIGHT, AND DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY THAN GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET RUN AMERICA. AMERICA WILL HONOR AMERICAN CITIZENS WITH DEMOCRATIC WORKERS’ RIGHTS, TRANSPARENCY, OVERSIGHT, AND DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY.

NO MORE WALL STREET DICTATORSHIP OVER CONGRESS
NO MORE WALL STREET IMPORTATION OF ILLEGAL CARTEL DRUGS
NO MORE WALL STREET MASS GUN SALES
NO MORE WALL STREET ILLEGAL WARS
NO MORE WALL STREET WILD SPECULATION AND IRRESPONSIBLE LEVERAGE
NO MORE WALL STREET SOFT PORNOGRAPHY ON PRIME TIME TELEVISION
NO MORE WALL STREET MASS VIOLENCE ON PRIME TIME TELEVISION
NO MORE WALL STREET HATE RADIO
NO MORE WALL STREET UNAUTHORIZED SPYING ON AMERICAN CITIZENS
NO MORE WALL STREET ILLEGAL CREDIT SCORES
NO MORE WALL STREET OVERSEAS TAX HAVENS
NO MORE WALL STREET OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS
NO MORE WALL STREET BUYING AMERICAN POLITICIANS

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET $TRILLION FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

Direct impact of GOP McCain sponsored deregulations
Bankrupt and floundering
Failure of the investment bank
Government's takeover

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET's business model has collapsed

Greed and fear routinely govern GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial markets and GLOBAL CRISIS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET (giant investment houses, brokerage firms, hedge funds, "private equity" firms) irresponsibly TRADED the savings of average Americans (placed LAS VEGAS STYLE BETS on extremely high risk stocks, bonds, and other securities).

DUBIOUS MORTGAGES were PACKAGED into BONDS and SOLD and TRADED. Investment houses had huge incentives to increase LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING).

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET compensation is heavily skewed toward annual bonuses, reflecting the profits traders and managers earned in the tune of lavish base salaries and obscenely high annual bonuses of $20,000,000.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET relies heavily on OBSCENELY HIGH LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWING). $3 Trillion (stocks, bonds, other securities) backed by only $80 billion in shareholders' equity while the $2.8 Trillion was LEVERAGE (BORROWED).

Leverage (huge borrowing) can create huge debts (huge principal and interest obligations)

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET is a manic machine for gambling.
Traders and money managers are given huge incentives to do whatever would increase short-term profits.

For decades, GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN sponsored legislation that broadly deregulated WALL STREET banking and insurance industries.

GOP REPUBLICAN JOHN MCCAIN swept away Consumer Protection legislation and opened the way for a less restricted high risk financial marketplace.

While the GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET boom continued, government (White House, Congress, Supreme Court) looked the other way.

GOP REPUBLICAN Congress resisted tougher regulation and permitted WALL STREET to run out of control at obscenely high LEVERAGE (OBSCENELY HIGH BORROWED MONEY) RATIOS perpetrating intentional fraud against the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET leaders intentionally deceived customers and lenders into taking hazardous risks for short-term rewards regardless of the long-term dangers to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Mortgages went bad. The powerful high leverage went into reverse. Losses eroded firms' capital bases and raised doubts about their survival.

Financial firms took major stupid and wasteful risks that severely damaged the American Economy and impeded economic recovery.

GOP REPUBLICAN STOCK MARKET $TRILLION FRAUD has deepened consumers' pessimism, fear and reluctance to spend. There may be more failures of FINANCIAL FIRMS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET financial crises resemble the GOP REPUBLICAN illegal miscalculated war.


How were we ever made to believe that the now-collapsing GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET model ever made sense? Common sense should have told us that making RISKY BETS with HUGE AMOUNTS of BORROWED MONEY was a DANGEROUS GAME; if the bets pay off you make money beyond your wildest dreams, but if they go bad you face utter ruin.

Common sense should have told us that betting fortunes on meaningless fluctuations in stock, bond or currency values (McCain sponsored deregulated hedge funds) was about as productive as a trip to Las Vegas. Common sense should have told us that buying and selling exotic securities based on other securities based on bundles of mortgages that were treated like mere numbers on a balance sheet (no recognition that the whole iffy construct was based on real people living in real houses that they might or might not be able to afford) was not an intelligent endeavor.

Somehow, we all forgot that "HIGHLY LEVERAGED" is just another way of saying "DEEPLY INDEBTED." Now we've had a wake-up call, and maybe the erstwhile Masters of the Universe will have to stop playing with imaginary money and go back to using the real stuff.


RULE OF LAW WILL ENFORCE CONFISCATION OF ALL GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS’ AND CEOS’ PERSONAL PROPERTIES RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ECONOMY’S MELTDOWN. All money and properties of the Super Rich CEOs and WALL STREET Speculators domestic and abroad will be confiscated and returned to the United States TREASURY and the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET GET RICH QUICK GREEDY
BILLION DOLLARS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS RISKY UNSECURED LOANS
REPACKAGED AND SOLD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

GOP REPUBLICAN LIARS SUPER RICH WALL STREET ROBBER BARONS
COMMIT TREASON AND GRAND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.


WALL STREET SRO - SELF REGULATORY ORGANIZATION
OUR GOP REPUBLICAN RUN Government (GOP President, GOP Congress, GOP Supreme Court) looked the other way, while GOP REPUBLICAN Super-capitalist Obscenely Rich WALL STREET SRO Speculators Robbed Our U.S. TREASURY and Forced the $Trillion Debt Upon the AMERICAN PEOPLE.


HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN’S REMARKS

Comments uttered by Sarah Palin has angered Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton who described Sarah Palin as an opportunist with no qualifications. Senator Hillary Clinton also stated that John McCain and Sarah Palin’s records on women’s rights are abominable. The country cannot withstand anymore George Bush failures cloaked in McCain/Palin. Asking Sarah Palin to become Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorsed Pro-Women’s Rights ticket Obama / Biden for their outstanding work bettering the lives of women.

During her first term as Mayor, Palin went on an intense firing spree by sacking, or requesting resumes and resignation letters from the chief of police, finance director, public works director, and librarian.

In October of 1996, Palin consulted the city librarian about censoring "objectionable" books. The librarian was shocked and responded that the books were selected "on the basis of national selection criteria of libraries this size" and would resist all efforts to ban or remove any books from the library. A few months later Emmons received a letter from Palin stating that she had been terminated from her job. Emmons was reinstated the next day after public outcry.

Long time Alaskan acquaintance described Sarah Palin as a malicious, conniving opportunist, a reckless spender, and power abuser. Initially Palin supported the 'bridge to nowhere' project and even wore t-shirts that supported the project. When she realized that the project was not supported by the public she decided to back off.

Palin is an avid pro-lifer. Teen pregnancies are a major dilemma facing the nation today. The government spent $1 billion in supporting abstinence-only sex education programs since 1996. In the case of Palin's daughter, such programs are failing us. Palin is comfortable with giving her own daughter a choice, but wants to take away that choice from the rest of the nation.

By picking a young, attractive and vivacious woman as his partner in crime, McCain hoped to pull in all the disappointed Clinton supporters. This was his crucial mistake, because Sarah Palin is the antithesis of Hillary Clinton. She stands against women rights and would reverse women's rights by fifty years. Women are not as gullible as McCain and his advisors had hoped that they would be. Just because McCain placed a young woman in front of the crowd does not mean women will automatically vote for her without any question. Women will soon realize that Sarah Palin is an anti-choice, homophobic, polar bear, wolf, moose, and deer killing machine.

Sarah Palin is incapable of writing a speech. The speech given by her at the Republican National Convention was written long before she was considered for McCain’s running mate by the computer. McCain had never heard of Palin until after the computer printed her name one day before his announcement.

The thought that Sarah Palin will do anything in the White House is unsettling, because she is a unhinged lunatic who will mess up and give the public the perception that women cannot be in power. Hillary Rodham Clinton and women throughout the country are very angry that Sarah “moose hunter” Palin is in such an important position. Four out of Sarah’s five best friends have committed to Barack Obama.


GOP REPUBLICANS ARE AUTHORITARIANS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH OR DEMOCRACY. GOP REPUBLICAN ONLY INTERESTS ARE POWER AND MONEY.


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM AT ITS WORST

Executive salaries, CEO bonuses, grand robberies of the U.S. TREASURY in the $MILLIONS, $BILLIONS, and $TRILLIONS.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISTS robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE of a $Trillion. RULE OF LAW states that the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be protected and all private properties, money, and wealth domestic and abroad owned by GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISTS taking part in robbing the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE) will immediately be confiscated and returned to the U.S. TREASURY (AMERICAN PEOPLE).


PALIN FAILIN RETURNED HOME TO 2,000 ALASKAN PROTESTERS WHO CHEERFULLY CHANTED "O-BAM-AH.

Gov. Sarah Palin returned home to 2,000 protesters outside the Anchorage library who wanted to correct the widespread impression that the Last Frontier endorses her candidacy.

"Last week a group of women were sitting around talking about this perception that all of Alaska supports Sarah Palin. We apparently hit a nerve and started a movement,"

A sense of festival obtained. There was a woman in a polar bear suit representing "Polar Bear Moms Say: No Palin Failin." Drivers on 36th Avenue saw a little girl waving a sign "Don't Ban My Books."

"My mom is from Alaska. She's a working mother. She's good looking," said Nolan. "So she seems to be qualified to be vice president."

Asking Sarah Palin to become the Vice President is like asking the grazing moose behind her trailer to pilot the shuttle.

Sarah Palin Failin Protesters Held Signs Reading:

Bush In A Skirt
Palin Be Failin
Jesus Was a Community Organizer
Palin Failin: Thanks But No Thanks
Smearing Alaska's Good Name One Scandal @ a Time
Candidate To Nowhere
Rape Kits Should Be Free
Voted For Her Once: Never Again!
Community Organizers are the Real Patriots
Barbies for War
I Shall Not Be Pandered To
Give Palin Failin Your Vote AND Your Draft Age Child
Sarah Palin Failin: So Far Right She's Wrong
Alaska Is Not Frisco
Coat Hangers for McCain
Sarah Palin Failin, Undoing 150 Years of American Feminism
Hockey Mama for Obama (on a hockey stick)


Cheerful chants of "O-bam-ah.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance


McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights

PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL CHOICES

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're 'exotic, different.'

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, and its a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer,
become President of the Harvard Law Review,
create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters,
spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor,
spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people,
become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee,
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13
million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign
Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees,
you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years
on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less
than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000
people, and cook caribou/grizzly/wolf stew, then you're qualified to become the country's second
highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters,
all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,
and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,
you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only,
with no other option in sex education in your state's school system
while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm
to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family,
your family's values don't represent America's.

If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude', with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and
once was a member of a group that advocated: the secession of Alaska from the USA,
your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.


National Organization of Women (NOW) Endorses Obama / Biden For Their Pro-Women Rights Stance


McCain / Palin Failin are rejected for their anti-women stance and votes against Women Rights

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN SUPPORTS BARACK OBAMA

LONDON - BRITISH PRIME MINISTER GORDON BROWN voiced support for UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BARACK OBAMA, saying he would help Americans struggling with an economic downturn.

In a move seen by some British media as a break with a political convention requiring foreign leaders to remain neutral ahead of US elections, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN praised MR. OBAMA as a fellow “progressive politician” who would help ordinary Americans in tough times. With eight weeks to go before the presidential election, MR. OBAMA and his Republican rival John McCain are neck-and-neck in domestic opinion polls.

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BROWN described the race for the White House as “electrifying” and said: “It is the DEMOCRATS who are generating the ideas to help people through more difficult times.”

“To help prevent people from losing their home, BARACK OBAMA has proposed a Foreclosure Prevention Fund to increase emergency pre-foreclosure counselling, and help families facing repossession,” he wrote in an article in The Monitor magazine, a monthly political publication.


2008 UNITED STATES DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL RACE

DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN D STUDENTS

OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW AND PRESIDENT OF HARVARD LAW REVIEW
BIDEN OF SYRACUSE LAW

MCCAIN OF NAVY ACADEMY LAST PLACE D STUDENT
PALIN FAILIN OF MOOSE COLLEGE

GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

STOP DESTRUCTIVE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPERCAPITALISM OIL SPECUALTARS (OIL MILLIONAIRES BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, MCCAIN, PALIN FAILIN)

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE
NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE

WHY A BARREL OF OIL ILLEGALLY SHOT UP FROM $24 TO $145 DURING THE GOP REPUBLICAN (MCCAIN, BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, PALIN FAILIN) ADMINISTRATION


GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH I OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN BUSH II OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN CHENEY OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN RICE OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL EXECUTIVE
GOP REPUBLICAN GUILIANI OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN MCCAIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRE AND OIL STOCKHOLDER
GOP REPUBLICAN PALIN FAILIN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL COMMISSIONER AND OIL STOCKHOLDER


TOGETHER WHAT DO THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON?

THEY ARE ALL GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIILLLLL MILLIONAIRES AND OIL STOCKHOLDERS


GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK
GOP REPUBLICAN OOOOOIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL IS THE NEW CRACK


CAN YOU SAY GOP REPUBLICAN CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, ROB OUR U.S. TREASURY, AND SPECULATE FOR OBSCENELY HIGH PROFIT RETURNS ON WALL STREET OIL STOCKS

WAKE UP AMERICA, BECAUCE THE WORLD ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT THE CRIMINAL GOP REPUBLICAN PARTY OF CONSPIRATORS

NATIONALIZE U.S. OIL FOR NATIONAL DEFENSE AS A VITAL RESOURCE

AMERICA AND AMERICANS FIRST

NO MORE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET OOOOOIIIIILLLLL SPECULATION AND FRAUD AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

IF YOU SAY THAT YOU LOVE AMERICA, THEN PROVE IT AND STOP THE GOP REPUBLICAN RAIDERS UPON OUR U.S. TREASURY AND OUTSOURCING OF U.S. JOBS


GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN FAILIN’S REMARKS

Will the GOP Republican get rich by selling America party take credit for any of their disasters? GOP Republicans are successful at failing and hurting OUR COUNTRY in the eyes of the WORLD. Can we really afford to ignore what the ENTIRE WORLD THINKS OF US?


How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by Barack Obama? Extremely favorable.

How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by John McCain? Extremely negative.

FOUR MORE YEARS ANYONE?

Eventually, Americans will realize that doing the same thing (electing GOP Republicans) will not yield different results (stock market disasters, economic disasters, world view disasters, failed foreign policy disasters, failed domestic policies disasters).

Spraying perfume on a new GOP Republican Pig will not create a bright and shiny candidate. Garbage in equal garbage out. GOP Republican garbage in yield (stock market, economic, foreign relations, domestic policies) garbage out.

McCain has perpetually been a failure from school until now.
Palin Failin has perpetually been a failure (with a hillbilly hockey mom accent) from day one until now. Her bear hunting Arctic outback kids prove it.

Do you really need someone to tell you these basic facts? Under the Freedom of Information Act, all of this information is available free if you choose to type in the questions.

Lets prove to the Europeans and the World that we are not stupid, because they think that we are after two terms of Forrest Gump Bush.

D Student Crash Every Plane McCain and Hillbilly Trailer Palin Failin are not reflective of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

If Palin Failin had a brain, then she would have considered the immense responsibilities demanded of the Office of the United States Vice President or President; and politely declined McCain’s crack induced invitation. GOP Republican Party is a joke.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.


REPORT SAYS GOP REPUBLICAN OIL AGENCY RAN AMOK

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET

INVESTIGATION OF GOP REPUBLICAN MINERALS MANAGEMENT SERVICE OIL MARKETING GROUP


GOP REPUBLICAN Government officials in charge of collecting BILLIONS of dollars worth of royalties from OIL and gas companies accepted gifts, steered contracts to favored clients and engaged in drug use and illicit sex with employees of the energy firms, federal investigators reported.

Investigators from the Interior Department's inspector general's office said more than a dozen employees, including the former director of the OIL royalty program, took meals, ski trips, sports tickets and golf outings from industry representatives. The report alleges that the former director, also netted more than $30,000 from improper outside work.

The report from Inspector General contains fresh allegations about the practices at the beleaguered royalty-in-kind program of Interior's Minerals Management Service, which last year collected more than $4 billion worth of OIL and natural gas from companies given contracts to tap energy on federal and Indian lands and offshore. The revelations come as Congress is set to consider opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and areas off the coast of Florida for drilling.

The royalty-in-kind program, based near Denver, allows energy companies to pay the government in OIL and gas, rather than cash, for the privilege of drilling on government land. It has been the subject of multiple investigations since 2006 by the Interior Department's secretary, its inspector general, the Justice Department and Congress for alleged mismanagement and conflicts of interest.

In the report released yesterday, investigators said they "discovered a culture of substance abuse and promiscuity" in which employees accepted gratuities "with prodigious frequency." The report cited one e-mail from a Shell Pipeline representative asking a woman in the royalty office to attend "tailgating festivities" at a Houston Texans football game: "You're invited . . . have you and the girls meet at my place at 6am for bubble baths and final prep."

Besides Shell, the energy company employees mentioned in the report worked for Chevron, Hess and Gary-Williams Energy. The social outings detailed in the report included alcohol-, cocaine- and marijuana-filled parties where certain employees of the Minerals Management Service were nicknamed the "MMS Chicks" by the energy employees. The companies paid for federal workers to attend football and baseball games, PGA Tour events, Colorado ski trips, paintball outings and "treasure hunts," investigators found.

"The OIL INDUSTRY holds shocking sway over the ADMINISTRATION and even KEY FEDERAL EMPLOYEES,". "This is why we must not allow BIG OIL'S AGENDA to be jammed through CONGRESS."

The current director of the Minerals Management Service, said that he takes the report "very seriously".
Employees identified in the report told investigators that they didn't think ethics rules applied to them because of their "unique" role in the agency and that they needed to socialize with industry representatives for "market intelligence," according to the report. Those employees, some of whom have been transferred to different offices, have been recommended for internal administrative action.

The inspector general's release comprised three separate reports, including one devoted to the program's director. It alleges that Smith improperly worked part time for Geomatrix Consultants, an Oakland, Calif.-based environmental and engineering firm, and marketed the company to government clients.

Additionally, the report said that the director had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a subordinate whom he paid to buy cocaine, promising her a bonus in return. The director admitted to the sexual encounter.

The director, who now works for a private OIL company in Denver, did not respond to requests for comment. Investigators referred their findings to federal prosecutors.

Justice officials also declined to comment on their decision about the criminal case against the highest-ranking official named in the report director of the Minerals Management Service, who worked in Washington. She is accused of improperly arranging a million-dollar deal for two retired employees.

The wife of the procurement policy administrator for the WHITE HOUSE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, retired from government service Jan. 31. She declined to comment on the report. She told investigators she had a "personal issue. The Justice Department's decision to charge created a rift with Interior officials.

One of the two retired employees pleaded guilty in July to a federal conflict-of-interest charge related to the investigation. Another employee has been under investigation for similar conflict-of-interest allegations.

Before he left, Mayberry created a job for himself by writing the job description and the criteria for selecting the winning bidder, court documents show. He started a company out of his Texas home and was awarded a $150,000 contract in June 2003. He later hired Dial, the report said. Mayberry's firm collected $788,000 worth of contracts.

The royalty-in-kind program, which started as a small pilot project a decade ago, has been touted as a way to simplify the way OIL AND GAS COMPANIES pay for the right to drill on federal land and offshore. Instead of calculating the profit from a well, they can simply give the government one-eighth to one-sixth of whatever they take from the ground.

Revenue rose quickly, from $1.5 billion in 2004 to $4.3 billion last fiscal year. But the growth occurred "in an environment with relatively unstructured in-house oversight," the congressionally convened Royalty Policy Committee said in a December report. Previous reports have said that companies were allowed to revise their million-dollar bids for projects indiscriminately, that government workers routinely failed to seek out legal advice on complicated deals and that the agency used outdated computers and a $150 million software program that resulted in royalty money going uncollected.

A lawyer who represented states and tribes entitled to a cut of the royalties, said it was nearly impossible to get accurate numbers from the agency. "They kept hemming and hawing," she said.

In late 2006 questions arose over its handling of leases written in 1998 and 1999 that allowed major OIL companies drilling in the Gulf of Mexico to avoid BILLIONS of dollars in royalty payments.

Former Interior Department auditors accused the agency of failing to bill companies. "We weren't allowed to audit them. It was disturbing," said an auditor who sued the federal government for not collecting royalties. "You couldn't see what was going on."

The minerals agency director said that the harm done by the royalty employees was to public trust and TREASURY, and acknowledged that financial considerations were given to firms that gave favors to federal employees, and he said the contracts will be audited.


Do you really question the motives of GOP Republicans Criminals? America must Immediately Nationalize U.S. OIL and Gas For National Defense.


DEMOCRAT HARVARD LAW VS. GOP REPUBLICAN CRASH JET AND MUDVILLE

U.S. Presidents From Harvard Law
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin Roosevelt
John Kennedy
Barack Obama

President and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama Contrast With D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain


Growing Up

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was a D student and graduated last in his class. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain and McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.


Community Service

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s modem of operations. WillObscenelyRich Crash Every Plane McCain, who finished 894th out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who lost five jets, return competence to the White House? To lose one plane over Vietnam may be a heroic tragedy; to lose five planes here and there is carelessness.

Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama for his dedication to public service.


Marriage

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, sister, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain.


The World loves Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

If D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had to make another emergency landing on a deserted island with Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.

Hillary Clinton Will Destroy Sarah Palin Failin From Mooseville College.


Navy pilot John Sidney D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III was being held prisoner of war. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an OOIIILLLL-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire Crash Every Plane McCain is receiving large donations.

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.

Barak Obama proved why November's presidential election will end in a 50-state sweep. John Crash Every Plane McCain has no chance. It's like George Bush climbing into the ring with Mike Tyson; one thundering left hook and the Crawford Caligula would be sprawled across the canvas. "No mas"! The same fate awaits the crabby senator from Arizona. The polls are skewed to look like there's a political horse-race going on. There isn't. It's a complete rout. There's one well-toned thoroughbred striding from venue to venue electrifying the ever-increasing throngs, and one doddering, old mare limping towards the glue-factory. Someone should put a stop to it before Crash Every Plane McCain gets hurt.

At the Victory Column in Berlin's Tiergarten, Obama extracted Old Glory from the burn-pile and gave Brand America a desperately needed shot of adrenaline. 200,000 ecstatic Germans jammed the streets in what turned out to be the political shindig of the year. Many of them were waving American flags and chanting, "Obama, Obama, Obama". It was like Jack Kennedy had risen from his moldy sepulcher and made his way across the pond for one last rousing ovation. Obama has the very same affect on crowds. Its a gift and he knows how to use it to great advantage.

"People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment, this is our time," Obama boomed. "I know my country has not perfected itself, we've made our share of mistakes and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. But the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another."

What can we say about Obama's oratory skills that hasn't already been said? He is one of those unique characters who knows how to tap into the collective psyche and put them under his spell. He is the closest thing to a Pied Piper we've seen in the last half century. Whatever one thinks of his politics, his speeches are a welcome reprieve from the simian blabbering of President Dimwit.

"I speak to you not as a candidate for president, but as a citizen; a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world." (Roaring applause)

JOHN Crash Every Plane McCain: Maverick or Freak?
Have you taken a look at the crowds at a Crash Every Plane McCain event. Usually, there aren't any. Typically, there are more journalists and cameramen then people; and even they look bored. It's the truth. He generates no enthusiasm at all. None. He may be the most uninspiring, tedious, pure-vanilla candidate of all time; a complete dud. I challenge anyone to recite from memory anything John Crash Every Plane McCain has ever said in his 40 years in office. Time's up! When Crash Every Plane McCain begins to talk, its a signal for women to pull out the nail-files and for men to figure out how they're going to get out of cutting the lawn this week. Really. No one listens.

And the people that do manage to drag themselves to his speeches out of a sense of obligation are (you guessed it) scowling white guys with baseball caps pulled tightly over their ears or nearly-ambulatory Korea-era Vets who think the United Nations is a communist front-group that's planning to air-drop blue-helmets into Duluth to take over the United States. Tin-foil hats anyone?

Popularity and charisma, how does one survive in politics with neither. That's the question, and it may be the biggest mystery of Crash Every Plane McCain's candidacy. He's just not a likable guy. No one ever talks about hanging out and having a beer with John Crash Every Plane McCain, because they know that he might go "Jackie Chan" and start busting the place up. And he's utterly impossible to listen to. His high-pitched squeaky voice is about two octaves higher than a dog-whistle and twice as annoying. So how is he going to beat Obama. It's a total mismatch.

Crash Every Plane McCain is the perfect candidate for the GOP Republic party that has completely collapsed. He's like the "Jolly Roger" on the front of an iodine bottle; Brand X. In 2000, the Republican Party boasted it was the "party of ideas". What ideas? The Republican Party has never had ideas because the corporate mandarins and blue-blooded kleptocrats that run the party are suspicious of ideas, ideology, doctrine, philosophy or anything else that veers from their primary objectives of crushing the poor, despoiling the environment, carpet-bombing brown people wherever they may be, and enriching themselves. That's all they care about. The task of the right-wing think-tanks is to treat "war and tax cuts" like they're ideas. They're not. But war and tax cuts ARE the two foundation blocks of the Republican Party. There's nothing else; there never has been. Don't look for ideas; there aren't any. GOP Republican get rich quick by defrauding the AMERICAN PEOPLE, robbing the National TREASURY, sending American jobs overseas, and raising the national debt.

Hold Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Crash Every Plane McCain accountable for the crimes they've committed during their time in office.

Obama is not a candidate; he's a phenomenon. Obama is an explosive, vital, charismatic politician. When he speaks people feel better about themselves and their country. And, they're more hopeful about the future, too. That's what makes him unbeatable.

Crash Every Plane McCain, on the other hand, is the perfect embodiment of his party; a rusty, broken-down hulk that's been stripped of its engine, its fenders and all its moving parts. Even the steering wheel is gone. It's a dead-loss; nothing is salvageable.

Crash Every Plane McCain is in way over his head. This election is going to be a real embarrassment for him. It's too bad. He should be back at the Phoenix Rest Home shooing kids off the front lawn instead of waiting for the ax to fall in November. It's a rotten way to end a career.


GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE


GOP REPUBLICAN PLANE/TRAILER WRECK MCCAIN/PALIN FAILIN

With Wall Street OOOIIIIILLLLLL stocks paid under the table to Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner from OOOOOIIIIIILLLLLLL Millionaires Crash Every Plane McCain, Bush, Cheney, Rice and Guiliani; it appears that Sarah Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner, her large family, dogs, cats, chickens, and hogs can now move out of their trailer. Guiliani went from GOP front runner to anonymous polygamist. Guiliani is the biggest joke and shares home dysfunction with Bush, Cheney, Rice, Crash Every Plane McCain and now Sarah trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner. OOOOIIIIILLLLLLL MILLIONS stolen from Our TREASURY did not help their dysfunctional families.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich by robbing the American TREASURY and outsourcing American jobs party has officially been dissolved. Plane wreck McCrash and Train wreck Trailer Palin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioners have destroyed the already dysfunctional GOP Republican Party of Corporate Welfare Thieves.

Democrats and Independents are the official parties. Blessings to America and the World for peaceful cooperation and the elimination of unjust wars for GOP profits. The People First Party has arrived and Rich Wall Street millionaires will no longer use the AMERICAN PEOPLE as their cattle. Americans today are all free independent Democratic People in pursuit of happiness in the spirit of cooperation.

“We joined up with an altruistic vision of promoting freedom and justice around the world,” said Vince Emanuel, a Marine lance corporal who did a tour of duty in Iraq from August 2004 to April 2005, explaining why he was marching and protesting the GOP Republican Convention.

“Except we saw the killing of innocent people and the destruction of property ... for a lot of us it was very disenfranchising."

The veterans group tried to hand a message to the campaign of GOP Republican John Crash Every Plane McCain calling for a withdrawal from Iraq, reparations for the Iraqi people, and full medical benefits for veterans. No one from John Crash Every Plane McCain’s campaign received them.


If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


GOP Republican Wall Street SRO (Self Regulatory Organization) Robber Baron Supercapitalism Is Down And Will No Longer Rob the U.S. TREASURY and AMERICAN PEOPLE

Prerequisite for the United Stats President and Vice President is advance degrees, especially in Constitutional Law. D student McCain and hillbilly Palin Failin are excluded from the highest offices in the World. The debates will be fun: Harvard Law vs. Crash Jet and Mudville.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich Quick By Robbing America TREASURY Wild Speculators Created The Enormous National Debt, So Make Them Pay For It And Balance Our Budget.
GOP Republican Wall Street Supercapitalism Speculators Have Committed Treason Against Our Country.


What has WALL STREET SUPER-CAPITALISM brought you besides:

Cluttered homes full of useless crap

Semi-illiterate teenage sons on alcohol and drugs

Semi-illiterate teenage daughters on drugs and having unwanted babies

Selfish lifestyles mimicking immoral rich people off the chart divorce rates

Depress people living alone and addicted to church on TV or pornography

Guns deregulation freeing children to murder each other in school and after school

Prime time television soft pornography for the kids to mimic

Daughters dressing like prostitutes

Sons dressing like homeless

GREED GREED GREED steal money from your neighbors through wild WALL STREET speculations

SELL SELL SELL BUY BUY BUY (It is all enslaving crap)

Super Rich becomes more Super Rich, while the middle class becomes poor

College graduates cannot afford a small home and must live in their parents’ basements

Clinton left the United States with a surplus

GOP Republicans have stolen all of the Treasury surplus plus another $Trillion. Let the trials and confiscation (America versus Super Rich GOP Republican Criminals) begin

The American People will prevail over Super Rich Greedy Lawless Super Rich GOP Republicans


HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON ANGERED BY SARAH PALIN FAILIN’S REMARKS

Hillary wants to know if Palin wants to run the United States in the same manner that she and McCain ran their dysfunctional families. Hillary added that a five lettered word for Arctic hillbilly is P A L I N.

Posted by: dwashington1 | October 6, 2008 2:05 PM

Yes, according this article, somebody in the audience yelled "KILL HIM", and I'm assuming they meant Obama.

Knowing how some of these Republicans operate, it doesn't surprise me.

This is an outrage, and I hope this is picked up by more media outlets.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 6, 2008 2:05 PM

The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, nine trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work. Two thirds of that comes from inheritance; interest on interest accumulating to widows / idiot sons; and stock / real estate SPECULATION. It is crap.

Ninety percent of the American public has little or no net worth.

WALL STREET SPECULATORS create nothing. But through SUPER-CAPITALISM (FRAUD), WALL STREET SPECULATORS OWN THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY. The Super Rich running America are doing it through Las Vegas style gambling. IT IS CRAP!!!

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS make the rules (news, war, peace, famine, upheaval).

RICH GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS pick that rabbit out of the hat while the American People wonder how WE GOT INTO THIS MESS.

You are not naive enough to think that we live in a Democracy?

IT'S THE FREE MARKET. And you're a part of it.

GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS have that killer instinct. Stick around, GOP REPUBLICAN RICH WALL STREET SPECULATORS still have more stealing to do.


In a Democracy, the AMERICAN PEOPLE suppose to own AMERICA. That's right, the AMERICAN PEOPLE suppose to own AMERICA.

AMERICANS are being robbed by GOP RICH REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SPECULATORS AND THEIR WHITE HOUSE / CONGRESSIONAL STOOGES with their:

Obscenely high salaries,
Luncheons,
Hunting trips,
Golf tournaments,
Escort services,
Corporate jets,
GOLDEN PARACHUTES.

Thousands of GOP Republican CEOs and their White House / Congressional Stooges are walking away with over $20,000,000 each of stolen money from the U.S. Treasury (AMERICAN PEOPLE). This Is Treason Against the American People.

Posted by: dwashington1 | October 6, 2008 2:04 PM

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The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.


Cicero - 55 BC

we must learn from the past or realize the consequences

Posted by: white-eagle | October 6, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse "


This is the best post in months. If you skipped to read this, read the whole post. Outstanding.

Posted by: tweldy | October 6, 2008 2:03 PM

I don't see how anyone can support the words coming out of this womans mouth. This is pure desperation and nothing less. Taking shots at the patriotism of Obama may be McCain's downfall come November. We shall see though. The "change we need" is to put our "country first" and Washington somewhere on the bottom of the list. Get out and vote people!

Posted by: amusedbythematerial | October 6, 2008 2:03 PM

"MichelleObama" said: "Later, unlike you democraps I have a job to go to to support your welfare checks."

Are the Democrats welfare collectors or Harvard elites? Choose your stereotype and quit flip-flopping! We're at war!

Posted by: dj421 | October 6, 2008 2:03 PM

leeh, look at the witchdoctor blessing palin on youtube. It is really frightening in its bizarreness in a Christian church.

Do all hockey moms do this at Sunday school? Palin raves about this Kenyan witchdoctor in several actual real videos. She is entitled to her religion, but that is something America should know about as part of who she is. But, see...there's actual VIDEO of this.....your Marxist comments are just opinion....and you should say so. You have Never heard Obama say that, and yet you scream it as fact. It is a lie.

Stupid? Nah. Hopeful for a better America? Yep. And we are winning against all the haters out there.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 2:03 PM

"Look at your Republican Party whose fetish for deregulation has caused the biggest Bank crisis ever. All this stuff about being the party of the average American is nonsense, too. Do you think Thomas Frank was wrong? Do you think Krugman is wrong? Do you think all those economists who were warning two years ago about Freddie/Fannie 'bringing down the US economy' were wrong"

You may not realize it but your post is contradictory. DEMOCRATS OPPOSED FANNIE/FREDDIE REFORM AND BARNEY, SCHUMER, OBAMA CLINTON AND KERRY RECEIVED THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF DONATIONS.

If people want to blame deregulation in the housing scenario democrats house the blame. The republicans are to blame for the war and the democrats for the economy; point blank.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 2:02 PM

This is such a disappointment! I come from another country and was recently naturalized as U.S. citizen. In my years of not being able to vote, I always believed and respected the Republican party and it's views. It is so sad for me to read all these things about the Repblican party, McCain/Palin's campaign, it's policies, and in trying to smear the other party. What kind of honor is this, really?

Obama has my vote and I hope he goes for 8 years. I believe he can do more for this country that I have so proudly adopted.

To you so-called Republicans, and Palin for this matter, what a shame to tie Obama to a terrorist. With all due respect, Obama and McCain loves this country as much as I do.

Posted by: kupz73 | October 6, 2008 2:01 PM

ccednd2002:

Hilarious- Obamoron attends an overtly racists church, including raising his 2 daughters in an atmosphere of anti American, anti white hate and vitriol and Palin is the racists by pointing out the FACT that Obamorn cavorted with home grown terrorist.

That good, really good

Must be some of that "liberal logic".


Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 6, 2008 2:00 PM

"Why is it wrong to disagree (and in the senate that means block sometimes) legislation that hurts low income and working class people? What is wrong with that idea?"

We are now reaping the consequences of trying to live that idea; that is whats wrong. The current economy can largely be blamed on these misguided ideals even Bill Clinton knows it.

It doesn't "hurt" low income people they never should have owned a home in the first place.

If you have no post high school education and work a dead end job you should be living in a cheap apartment and have just enough money to provide necessities. I'm sorry but that is all that you contribute to the economy. This notion of everyone sharing is a joke and we can spiral down into a 3rd world craphole if we allow socialism to drive out innovation and success.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 1:59 PM

well, leeh, a lot of us think that palin is a pagan becasue of the witchdoctor thing---so it must be so, eh?

Posted by: sallieismydog

then you are as dumb as you sound through your words.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:57 PM

The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.


Cicero - 55 BC

we must learn from the past or realize the consequences

Posted by: white-eagle | October 6, 2008 1:57 PM

Did someone in the audience actually say "Kill Him?" Kill who? Obama? Ayers? If so, Gov. Palin should be arrested for inciting the crowd to kill another human being. What's happening to us? Gov. Palin speeches are the stuff of Hilter, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Amin, Mugabe, etc., etc. She is so consumed with hate, anger, and resentment, that she isn't aware that she is parroting some of the worst dictators in history. What took place in Rwanda could happen here, and I fear McCain and Palin will be the ones who could make it happen. God help us all!

Posted by: sgarney | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM


My guess is that the GOP/Republicans are hoping to win by assassination.
Not character assassination. Real murder.
That was the only HRC hope toward the end. Now Palin has to come to stir up the rednecks and let the mob do its job.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 6, 2008 1:57 PM

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

Isn't that kind of threat illegal? This is the pride of the right wing. Proposing to kill Democrats?

Posted by: julian9682 | October 6, 2008 1:56 PM

Where is the substance from McPalin??

No plans on healthcare or the war except a tactic...the surge.

Same Bush approach to domestic and foreign policy.

And now-- more smear after pulling out of Michigan because they ran out of $.

Country First! McMaverick and Ms.'You Betcha' last!

Posted by: indytucker | October 6, 2008 1:56 PM

"Cryos...read my earlier post, I don't support that idiot. It really doesn't matter where he starts with the $250,000, all democrats view anyone rich as the enemy. They think that they should gladly give up their fortunes in order to give it to the poor. Charity should be free not forced! The redistribution of wealth is completely opposite of what this country was built on.
My point was, you can't expect to tax corporations without them passing it on to the consumer, and that will not help the economy!

Posted by: jwilder_gop"

Sorry Jwilder I didn't mean to imply that insult. This post is right on in all respects and I fully agree.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 1:56 PM

What is it with you Americans? I'm a politically middle-of-the-road middle-aged Brit who has seen real 'Socialists' and communist Party members, and Obama is right-of-centre. Look at your Republican Party whose fetish for deregulation has caused the biggest Bank crisis ever. All this stuff about being the party of the average American is nonsense, too. Do you think Thomas Frank was wrong? Do you think Krugman is wrong? Do you think all those economists who were warning two years ago about Freddie/Fannie 'bringing down the US economy' were wrong? Do you think they were wrong even more years ago about the future demise of Fractional Reserve Banking? And now -(to quote Krugman) McCain wants to do for healthcare what deregulation did for banking. Great.

Posted by: bostonlincs | October 6, 2008 1:56 PM

"You can be a single mom with 2 kids working at a gas station and get a $5,000+ federal tax check MORE THAN YOU PAID as it stands now without more "credits." In addition with all of the subsidies you can turn the $20K a year you make into $70K+. If that isn't wealth redistribution I don't know what is."

Just as it is wealth redistribution to dump billions into the oil industry already awash in profits for the ostensible purpose of 'prospecting' yet with no oversight. Lets agree to do neither.

Posted by: tweldy | October 6, 2008 1:55 PM

One more example of foolish lack of reasoning:

"Those getting a tax credit are those who have paid Nothing into the system."

Logic please? A tax credit to someone who pays no taxes?

Chris Brown

Posted by: chrisbrown1 | October 6, 2008 1:55 PM

BOOOOOOOO!
Obama is terrorist? The McCain campaign should get real and focus on the issues...why do they think Obama is winning in the polls? Not that it will matter since people are starting to see through the BS.

"You betcha, terrorist, derka derka, osama = obama"...my brain hurts. We will destroy your hate mongering campaign of lameness.

Personally I have not seen any attacks like this from the Obama camp, only reasoned replies to retarded rhetoric.
If you think the world will ever see a decent standard of living before a drastic change in our countries policies is dreaming. Besides, this is the socialization of America. It only appears that there are recent events causing this to happen, but it was in fact inevitable due to efficiency reaching a critical level in this society where jobs start to decrease rapidly. For capitalism to continue, efficiency must be purposely decreased, which is also known as retarded (examples EV1, DMV) so people can have jobs.
Therefore we are left with a choice between "socialism" and lying to ourselves about what we really want and making a bunch of useless, inefficient goods, and working at boring, unfulfilling jobs. What do people really want?

Posted by: Justin316 | October 6, 2008 1:53 PM

DCX2 Apparently you are a young Marxist.

There was a time (prior to Reagan - when the top rate was 50%)that you did not have to work and you did not have to pay taxes to get a "tax" refund.

That was more of the old "let's see how many votes can be buy from the smarmy masses with the woking peoples money" that liberals are so famous for.

Your time is coming - I know its a four letter word but trust me, work will be good for you.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 6, 2008 1:53 PM

Palin provided a speech to the secessionist party AIP. She congratulated them on their good work and urged them to keep it up. What is their work? To tear Alaska from the fabric of the union and secede from the union. Palin's husband was a card carrying member for more than a decade. Her association with such a man calls into question not only her patriotism but how she can govern.
She says she is hiding Todd's emails because he was her consultant in the governor's office. Indeed, the secessionist is her advisor.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 6, 2008 1:53 PM

well, leeh, a lot of us think that palin is a pagan becasue of the witchdoctor thing---so it must be so, eh?

and we think mccain is....well, you know....finished. so it must be so, eh?

and you are writing on a board with Obama supporters, so you must BE ONE, eh?

and you are the expert Marxist here, since you have read it then it must mean you ARE it, right?

What a profound lack of logic and honesty you have.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 1:53 PM

"sallie it is not out of fear I speak, but of truth. Marx refers to in his writings of the exploitation of an entire segment or class of society by another. He sees it as being an inherent feature and key element of capitalism and free markets."

Well, free markets are bad. Competitive markets - those are good - at least according to Economics and the general study thereof. Free market capitalism doesn't work except under condition where the only stable market equilibria are competitive with no opportunity for cost externalization. In short, unfettered free markets are just as idealistic and unworkable as pure communism. Its just another false Utopian vision with no real grounding in logic, study, or practicality.

Posted by: tweldy | October 6, 2008 1:53 PM

> ccednd2002:

"I can't decide - is she engaging in McCarthyism or just pure racism?"

Both. Obviously as far as she is concerned no kind of fear and smear tactic is now off limits no matter how much harm it does to the country she and Mccain profess to love so deeply — and this scorched earth tactic DOES and will harm the country.

Posted by: truthtopower40 | October 6, 2008 1:52 PM

"Then there's the myth of wealth redistribution. Consider that if you don't work, you don't pay taxes, and you therefore do not get any money back from tax cuts. How, then, is a progressive income tax "wealth redistribution"?"

You can be a single mom with 2 kids working at a gas station and get a $5,000+ federal tax check MORE THAN YOU PAID as it stands now without more "credits." In addition with all of the subsidies you can turn the $20K a year you make into $70K+. If that isn't wealth redistribution I don't know what is.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 1:52 PM

leeh11281: The Vice President is part of the EXECUTIVE Branch as Defined in the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 1:

"The Executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:"

The election of the Vice President is further defined in Amendment 12.

Article 1, Section 3, Clause 4 defines the VP's role "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."

Neither the Vice President nor the full-time President pro tempore of the Senate preside over the body's routine sessions.

Only Dick Cheney and his staff think that the Vice President is part of the legislative branch.

Posted by: flyfishchef

The Constitution, though, actually says the vice president is always president of the Senate and legal scholars say he has the right to preside at any time. Early vice presidents, such as Thomas Jefferson, actively exercised that role.

The vice president's main office is still at the Capitol, and scholars say it wasn't until the middle of the 20th century that the vice president had an office at the executive office building.

The president pro tempore, usually the senior senator from the majority party, takes over only when the vice president is absent.

In recent practice, as the vice president has taken a bigger role in the executive, that's meant the Senate operates almost all of the time without the vice president in the chair.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:52 PM

MEMO TO OVERUSERS OF ALL CAPS:

All caps is largely ineffective for adding emphasis if you do it for several sentences in a row.

*actually*, it only makes the poster look angry and irrational...

...Just the way John McCain likes to lead in a crisis.

AS A FIGHTER PILOT, YOU NEED TO BE IMPULSIVE AND RASH.

As a *cheif executive*, you need to lead with forethought and wisdom.

Independent voter: Which style do you trust more to lead the country? That's what I thought.

Posted by: SonOfHistoryTeacher | October 6, 2008 1:52 PM

dave40...You make under $250,000 and pay 40% in taxes? You really should consider changing accountants.

Posted by: jwilder_gop | October 6, 2008 1:51 PM

Ooopsy. I meant to ask why didn't Republicans run McCain for President in 2000, not 2008.

Sorry for the typo.

You people make me see cross-eyed with your idiotic Palin!

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | October 6, 2008 1:51 PM

Anyone who wants to suggest that Palin's speech is NOT racially motivated is in complete denial. Just think where else have seen speeches like this - right before LYNCHINGS.

I'm white and I grew up in the south - trust me - this is how these things happen. It's not a coincidence that someone responded to her speech by shouting "let's kill him"

Posted by: s0kr8s | October 6, 2008 1:50 PM

Ah, Republicans booing Obama, someone saying 'Kill him' with no protest from Saint Sarah while avoiding admitting their mishandling of the economic crisis. Why am I not surprised by the lack of even basic decency, much less the promised civility?

The only thing that scares me worse than John McCain as President is Saint Sarah (no-nothing) Palin as Vice President, as the 'First Dude' accidentally presses the big red button, mistaking it for room service.

It should be the nation's worst nightmare, to have the guy who graduated at the bottom of his class running the country (and was publicly reprimanded by his own colleagues in the Keating affair, economics 101, anyone?), while next in line is ex-sportscaster, Miss Alaska (runner-up).

Are you people out of your minds?

Posted by: baycat571 | October 6, 2008 1:50 PM

..................Senate.......House
..................D...R...I......D......R....I...V
2001–2003..50..50..0....212..221..2
2003–2005..48..51..1....204..229..1..1
2005–2007..44..55..1....202..232..1
2007–2009..49..49..2....233..202

Posted by: inigo | October 6, 2008 1:50 PM

Boo! Excuse me...exaggerating the truth is hate mongering...this woman is even worse than I ever imagined. Tina Fey for V.P. She's got the brains!

Posted by: ljassim | October 6, 2008 1:50 PM

Of course she heard the "kill him" comment and she kept on smiling. It meant nothing because she doesn't have the common sense to denounce it. Not many politicians would openly let that go by. Republican or Democrat and that just comes from having an ounce of sense. It doesn't make you look good to support or allow that. It just makes you look stupid.

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 1:50 PM

"Mauro, if you actually look at Senator Obama's tax plan (no matter what you hear on the TV or radio), under an Obama administration, those getting a 'tax credit' are those people who pay NOTHING into the system (not even payroll taxes). I have a job and am expecting my taxes to go up by 50% under an Obama administration (once the 2001 & 2003 tax cuts are repealed). Enough is enough."

50 percent? So you make way over 600K a year? That's the first tax bracket where your taxes really start to go up under Obama's plan. If you are such a productive person, how could you possibly have time to post here?

Posted by: tweldy | October 6, 2008 1:48 PM

Hey! The Gallup Tracking is just in and Palin is REALLLY helping out Obama!! Thanks Palin for handing the election to him, nice job and keep going!!!!!!

RCP Average 09/26 - 10/05 -- 49.3 43.3 Obama +6.0
Gallup Tracking 10/03 - 10/05 2744 RV 50 42 Obama +8
Rasmussen Tracking 10/03 - 10/05 3000 LV 52 44 Obama +8
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/03 - 10/05 909 LV 47 41 Obama +6
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 49 46 Obama +3
GW/Battleground Tracking 09/30 - 10/05 800 LV 50 43 Obama +7

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 1:48 PM


If McCain is so good, why didn't Republicans put him up for election in 2008?

Oh, that's right, George W. Bush ran a smear campaign (at least if you find having a child of color a "smear") against John & Cindy McCain over their ADOPTED daughter from India.

And I'm supposed to trust a political party willing to do that?

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | October 6, 2008 1:48 PM

Hey leeh11281.

I pay close to 40% of what I make in taxes and I work 80 hours a week and I am an educated professional making more that 90% of the people in my town. And yet ... I also find it financially difficult at times so I cannot imagine what people making less than me are experiencing.

People like Palin with a net worth over a million and pulling in large salaries and perks .... pay less than 10% in taxes?

What gives? I'll tell you what it is ... the mega-rich and connected do not feel it is their duty to pay taxes. In their eyes it is not patriotic! What? Everyone needs to PAY THEIR SHARE PAL! If you make a million, YOU SHOULD PAY 40% IN TAX JUST LIKE WE DO!! Why are you special?

Jerks.

Posted by: dave40 | October 6, 2008 1:48 PM

leeh---it would help us all if you can give us the direct quote and the source where Obama says "i am a marxist"==

NOT just your interpretation or your guesss or your opinion or YOUR FEAR, but the exact quote/source. thanks!

Posted by: sallieismydog

sallie it is not out of fear I speak, but of truth. Marx refers to in his writings of the exploitation of an entire segment or class of society by another. He sees it as being an inherent feature and key element of capitalism and free markets.

The profit gained by the capitalist is the difference between the value of the product made by the worker and the actual wage that the worker receives; in other words, capitalism functions on the basis of paying workers less than the full value of their labor, in order to enable the capitalist class to turn a profit. This profit is not however moderated in terms of risk vs. return.

It is not something that Senator Obama has said. Even Senator Obama's books hide the fact that Obama's own father was a communist. See: http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=303952499910291

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:47 PM

For the guy who thinks Dems have controlled the house and senate for the past 8 years, here's the raw data....

......................Senate.......House
......................D...R...I......D......R....I...V
2001–2003..50..50..0....212..221..2
2003–2005..48..51..1....204..229..1..1
2005–2007..44..55..1....202..232..1
2007–2009..49..49..2....233..202

Cheney broke the tie for Republicans in 2001-2003.

Posted by: inigo | October 6, 2008 1:47 PM

Obama says, "I am my brother's keeper", as Jesus asked us to be and do.

Palin says, Obama met a man who did a bad thing long ago.

Which one are we, dad?

Posted by: ottothewise | October 6, 2008 1:47 PM

Posted by: otto3 | October 6, 2008 1:47 PM

Palin is a puppet. She has closer ties to domestic extremist groups. Todd Palin, a former member of the Alaska Independence Party, might well have seen America unlike his wife did -- that is, an America that one can secede from. He was comfortable belonging to and being associated with a political party whose founder seemed to delight in denouncing the principles that hold our union together.
Her "first dude" was a member of this fringe party from 1995-2002. Whatever their relationship, Obama is not MARRIED to Ayers. Get that hypocritical, ditsy cheerleader outta the race.

Posted by: Profess | October 6, 2008 1:46 PM

Obama/McCain Tax plan comparison, just look at this chart and see where you stand.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html

or if you want all the details...

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411693_CandidateTaxPlans.pdf

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 6, 2008 1:46 PM

Cryos...read my earlier post, I don't support that idiot. It really doesn't matter where he starts with the $250,000, all democrats view anyone rich as the enemy. They think that they should gladly give up their fortunes in order to give it to the poor. Charity should be free not forced! The redistribution of wealth is completely opposite of what this country was built on.
My point was, you can't expect to tax corporations without them passing it on to the consumer, and that will not help the economy!

Posted by: jwilder_gop | October 6, 2008 1:46 PM

Watch the polls drop further for McCain/Palin with tactics like these.

It's very sad that the Republicans have no better candidates to offer than these two.

Posted by: rodb | October 6, 2008 1:42 P

Watch the polls drop further for McCain/Palin with tactics like these.

It's very sad that the Republicans have no better candidates to offer than these two.

Posted by: rodb | October 6, 2008 1:42 P

Posted by: otto3 | October 6, 2008 1:45 PM

In the very beginning I gave the benefit of the doubt. Only to find out about an hour or so later that she lied right out the gate about that bridge deal. Then that ridiculous speech at the convention which consisted of nothing but attacks. No substance whatsoever. Let's not go there on her incoherent, nonsensical interviews! At this point I am thoroughly sick of her. She does not belong in the campaign. Not because she is a woman, but because she is a joke and a bad one at that. I don't want to hear how good you are at slamming someone else. I want to know what you are going to do to fix things. Still waiting to hear her response on that..Not really. I would prefer not to hear her talk anymore.

Posted by: 1freethinker1 | October 6, 2008 1:45 PM

"Blah BLah BLah "republican deregulation." Here is the regulation that MATTERS IN THIS HOUSING ISSUE BUT DEMOCRATS BLOCKED REFORM BECAUSE IT "WOULD HAVE HURT LOW INCOME HOME OWNERSHIP." It's too bad the MSM can't report the facts like this and are stuck in Obama/democrat cheerleader mode."

Why is it wrong to disagree (and in the senate that means block sometimes) legislation that hurts low income and working class people? What is wrong with that idea?

Also, MSM in cheerleader mode? There are, of course, some talking heads on Fox news as well as MSNBC and CNN that are personalities and don't pretend to be unbiased. How did Karl Rove get to be a political analyst and taken so seriously? Still, I see a lot of stuff from the NYT, the WP and Newsweek (just a few examples) that have published pieces under the guise of journalism that have been not so subtle in cranking up Palin's likability while at the same time ignoring Palin's inept contribution to this election. Coverage on Obama? Typically when the republicans decide on a new strategy and everyone waits to see how he will respond to the new lies and innuendo his response. Except for the fact that Obama is ahead in the polls right now, it's all about Palin. Oh yeah, McCain is also out there somewhere talking about those who don't support him -- WE are the "country-second crowd." If McCain ever had an inch of dignity, it's gone out the window.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 1:44 PM

What is the impact on the middle class of the endless war in the Middle East? How many programs of health care, education and bridge repair were put on hold to pay for McCain's war on Iraq?

McCain is on record OCT 2001, Letterman, Anthrax, as backing the lies about WMDs from Iraq, including Anthrax attack against Congress, which was done from Maryland and not by Iraq.
McCain is still hiding the SOURCE, who told McCain to say it was Iraq. In case you didnt know, it is a crime to mislead with false propaganda to get the USA to go to war, LIKE MCCAIN DID ON LETTERMAN. McCain is hiding the name of the source. They are criminals.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 6, 2008 1:44 PM

Those who rag on Karl Marx have probably never read anything he wrote. I dare say they wouldn't be intelligent enough to understand what he wrote, either. They are likely just recycling right-wing talking points used to conjure up a bogeyman in order to scare the public into doing what they want them to do.

Did you know that during World Wars I and II, and after WWII, our income tax rate for the highest bracket was between 60% and 94%? We're fighting the Global War On Terror now and our highest tax rate is 35% (unless you get paid in stock options, in which case your Capital Gains rate is 15% instead). The top 1% of Americans have more wealth than the bottom 90%.

Then there's the myth of wealth redistribution. Consider that if you don't work, you don't pay taxes, and you therefore do not get any money back from tax cuts. How, then, is a progressive income tax "wealth redistribution"?

Posted by: DCX2 | October 6, 2008 1:44 PM

It occurs to me that if the righteously loved Tim Russert hadn’t suddenly died of a heart attack a few months ago, the naming of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate surely would have done the job. He, like many other talking heads, would have struggled to find the right words to say to the American public, without sounding partisan. Tina Fey’s impersonations of her must be difficult to do, because she is a parody of herself. And the fact that nearly half of Americans don’t see it is profoundly scary to me.

I gave up network television, specifically the news, eight years ago because I suffer from a tumor disease that causes pain, and stress, which television watching causes, increases that pain. Especially if it’s the news that I watch. So I stopped. But lately, of course, I’m drawn to it like the proverbial moth to a flame, and that flame has become a massive fire that cannot be contained. Smell it? It’s the burning of America. It’s been burning a long time, but now it is totally out of control. Just eight years ago, Sarah Palin would have been the joke when considering running mates. Now suddenly, she’s the real deal. But just who is it that supports her? Just how big is the neo-con population? Big, unfortunately. As far as who, my best guess is that it’s the “reality television” watchers, the anti-higher education, pro religious millions who were created by and for Republicans.

Four years ago, a friend of mine told me her preacher told the congregation that if they didn’t vote for Bush, they weren’t really Christians. She was mortified, and I told her she should report him because they could lose their tax exempt status for mixing church and state. We are now on the brink of that rather large loophole closing. That and a million other things that should turn your hair gray. And if the neo cons get their way, they too, will eventually have things that they cherish disappear, and they will be wondering how it happen. Connecting the dots is not the strong suit of the neo con crowd.

Personally, I think impeachment proceedings on Sarah Palin should start now. Just in case the unthinkable happens. This race should not be nearly as close as it is, and we all know why that is. If it were a white man running against McCain, he would be in the dust right now. Of course, if it were a white man running on the democratic ticket, no one but Alaskans would know who Sarah Palin is.

Posted by: dbsherri | October 6, 2008 1:43 PM

Posted by: otto3 | October 6, 2008 1:43 PM

Bush 2002: (Part of a much larger speech)

"The other thing Kirbyjon told me, which I really appreciate, is you don't have to have a lousy home for first-time home buyers. If you put your mind to it, the first-time home buyer, the low-income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anybody else. And I know Kirbyjon. He is what I call a social entrepreneur who is using his platform as a Methodist preacher to improve the neighborhood and the community in which he lives."

The deregulation fanatics have people all over government. No one's hands are clean. To portray this as exclusively a liberal or conservative, Republican or Democratic issue is somewhere between gross ignorance and outright deception. Both parties are pointing fingers as can be expected from partisan hacks. The solution lies in a small number of easily enforced regulations and transparency requirements for publicly held banking companies. Only when the practical and logical triumph over ideology will we have a stable system.

Posted by: tweldy | October 6, 2008 1:43 PM

MCCAIN PICK_UP A DIMWITTED COCTAIL WAITRESS,
WHOSE BEST FEATURE IS HER GLASSES....

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 6, 2008 1:43 PM

"She's going to have to find another guy to sing to - I just can't hear her singing "It's a Mans World" to Erkle."

Lol. When Barack gets depressed Michelle starts singing "Licking Stick" and gets Barack riled up thinking back about his "experimental" days in college.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 1:43 PM

Is this what the country has become a women
who has a witch hunter as a minister who is now doing her own witch hunting on her own?
What happened in the 60s stays in the 60s and it is about time dear Sarah gets it. We want to know what you are going to do for us not trash people with nonsense. The time for this type of politics ended with George Bush. Why can't she say these kind of things to people who report the news? What is she afraid being caught with her many lies. No it is easier for Dear perky Sarah to get a crowd to yell kill him than to face the media. She is nothing but a fake and a coward
resorting to win at any costs and I hope that the media responds and speaks out to this Joe McCarty in lipstick!!!!


Jim Murray

Ma.

Posted by: shamless1 | October 6, 2008 1:43 PM

G. Gordon Liddy.

That is all.

Posted by: jerry2a | October 6, 2008 1:42 PM

Watch the polls drop further for McCain/Palin with tactics like these.

It's very sad that the Republicans have no better candidates to offer than these two.

Posted by: rodb | October 6, 2008 1:42 PM


If I were one of Obama's folks, here's how I'd ask him to respond re
the playing of the Ayers card:

"Yes, I know Bill Ayers. Yes, he was a Weatherman. Yes, he has
contributed to my campaign. But the McCain-Palin campaign wants you to
misinterpret these facts, just as they have misinterpreted them.

Yes, Bill Ayers was a violent radical - a domestic terrorist if you
will. As a young man, he thought the American political system was so
hopeless that the only way to change things would be through violence.

But as he matured, he saw that this was incorrect. He saw that change
was possible, that it could be brought about in nonviolent ways, that
there was indeed some hope for American politics.

I'd like to think that in some small way I may have helped him develop
that hope, and that's why he contributed to my state senate campaign.

Bill Ayers was a terrorist. Now he counts himself proud to be an
American, and he lives as a decent, law-abiding citizen making valuable
contributions to his community.

The lesson of Bill Ayers is this: even terrorists can be transformed.
Given the opportunity to politically participate in meaningful ways,
given the hope that their actions can make a positive difference in
people's lives, given the right tools and a level playing field, even a
terrorist can lay down his weapons and join the rest of us."

Posted by: smendler | October 6, 2008 1:42 PM

for a friend of terrorists, see the Chicago Tribunes info on G. Gordon Liddy, McCain's good friend who said to the Branch Davidians: "If the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms insists upon a firefight, give them a firefight. Just remember, they're wearing flak jackets and you're better off shooting for the head."

McCain campaign = desperate hypocrites

Posted by: mmarsden | October 6, 2008 1:41 PM

To those questioning Obama's decision to increases taxes for those making more than $250,000/year I say this. He is suggesting lowering the taxes on the middle class. You know, those people who buy things like houses, cars, food, entertainment, etc. Don't forget a HUGE part of the US economy and GDP is domestic spending. Cooperate profits in the US have done very, very well the past couple of decades. It's time to bring some balance back to the equation and help that other part of the economic engine of this country, the spending middle-class.

Posted by: mauroacc

Mauro, if you actually look at Senator Obama's tax plan (no matter what you hear on the TV or radio), under an Obama administration, those getting a 'tax credit' are those people who pay NOTHING into the system (not even payroll taxes). I have a job and am expecting my taxes to go up by 50% under an Obama administration (once the 2001 & 2003 tax cuts are repealed). Enough is enough.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:41 PM

It occurs to me that if the righteously loved Tim Russert hadn’t suddenly died of a heart attack a few months ago, the naming of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate surely would have done the job. He, like many other talking heads, would have struggled to find the right words to say to the American public, without sounding partisan. Tina Fey’s impersonations of her must be difficult to do, because she is a parody of herself. And the fact that nearly half of Americans don’t see it is profoundly scary to me.

Just eight years ago, Sarah Palin would have been the joke when considering running mates. Now suddenly, she’s the real deal. But just who is it that supports her? Just how big is the neo-con population? Big, unfortunately. As far as who, my best guess is that it’s the “reality television” watchers, the anti-higher education, pro religious millions who were created by and for Republicans.

Four years ago, a friend of mine told me her preacher told the congregation that if they didn’t vote for Bush, they weren’t really Christians. She was mortified, and I told her she should report him because they could lose their tax exempt status for mixing church and state. We are now on the brink of that rather large loophole closing. That and a million other things that should turn your hair gray. And if the neo cons get their way, they too, will eventually have things that they cherish disappear, and they will be wondering how it happen. Connecting the dots is not the strong suit of the neo con crowd.

Personally, I think impeachment proceedings on Sarah Palin should start now. Just in case the unthinkable happens. This race should not be nearly as close as it is, and we all know why that is. If it were a white man running against McCain, he would be in the dust right now. Of course, if it were a white man running on the democratic ticket, no one but Alaskans would know who Sarah Palin is.

Posted by: dbsherri | October 6, 2008 1:40 PM

SInce all right-wing Republicans think that the NYT is a worthless liberal rag on par with the National Enquirer then why is she reading from it since it must be a lie?

Posted by: JRM2 | October 6, 2008 1:40 PM

First, it's wrong for Palin to continue this lie. Second, I don't care which side you're on, when someone suggests assassination, it's Palin's duty to stop that type of response. That speaks volumes for the type of person she is. By not saying anything, she's condoning.

Posted by: dee9 | October 6, 2008 1:40 PM

It's nice to know that many things can change over half a century but the good ol' all American tradition of red-baiting still goes on. Ain't that right Mr. Powerfull?

The jumble of contradictory insults, he's a pinko, he's a thug, he's uneducated, he's overeducated, he's elitist shows a distinct lack of coherence on the part of the mud-slinger. Meantime, your "liberals" are supposed to be worried. Why with such intellectual heavy-weights to contend with as the neo-cons, it almost makes me nostalgic for Spiro T. nattering-nabob-of- negativism Agnew.

Good day, as Red Skelton used to say, and god bless
Chris Brown in Hamburg

Posted by: chrisbrown1 | October 6, 2008 1:40 PM

Here's a horse without a saddle, a ranch without any cattle, a canoe without a paddle, member of a party that has plunged us as a country into the worst recession since the Great Depression, trying to divert attention away from their greatest sin...arrogance. What about the anti-Semitic minister of Palin's Wasilla church? Does he and she get a pass because they're white?

Posted by: chirp | October 6, 2008 1:39 PM

leeh---it would help us all if you can give us the direct quote and the source where Obama says "i am a marxist"==

NOT just your interpretation or your guesss or your opinion or YOUR FEAR, but the exact quote/source. thanks!

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 1:39 PM

Cain't tell a Cracker nuthin. I done heard all them Obamer lies. Ifn he aint no terrorist then I don't know what is.

Posted by: seemstome | October 6, 2008 1:39 PM

Cryos LMAO

Holy crap; you nailed it.

I have been trying to figure out who the hell she looks like and you are exactly right.

She's going to have to find another guy to sing to - I just can't hear her singing "It's a Mans World" to Erkle.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 6, 2008 1:38 PM

The playing of the Ayers card by the McCain/Palin campaign is, of course, their admission of defeat. This is what they had on the wall in the "BREAK IN CASE OF EMERGENCY" box - and it probably won't stick with anyone outside of the most rabid parts of the GOP base.

Posted by: smendler | October 6, 2008 1:38 PM

In addition to having the lowest IQ of any VP candidate in US history, Sarah Palin is potentially the most dangerous person in the world.

Posted by: packaging88 | October 6, 2008 1:38 PM

For those interested in facts rather than, again, bearing false witness... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kenya.asp

Again, another lie. Don't these people get that they are a bit two-faced by declaring themselves Christian and then telling stories meant to attack the character of another, that they themselves know are not true.

I can just imagine that Satan is working on an expansion of his domain for all the new arrivals who claim to speak in the name of God, but are only using God as cover, which I am guessing is a violation of the commandment that says not to take the name of the Lord God in vain.

I will pray for them, but not stick around to see what happens when God's wrath comes down on them for their repeated sins.

Posted by: tom28 | October 6, 2008 1:38 PM

To pro36

It is obvious you have an IQ of about 66, congratulations!

Also, most Republicans are ashamed of the idiot Palin

Just for you PRO36 I just gave another $200 to the Obama campaign. Keep it up and I may contribute the maximum alowed by law.

Posted by: Chaz_D | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

It occurs to me that if the righteously loved Tim Russert hadn’t suddenly died of a heart attack a few months ago, the naming of Sarah Palin as John McCain’s running mate surely would have done the job. He, like many other talking heads, would have struggled to find the right words to say to the American public, without sounding partisan. Tina Fey’s impersonations of her must be difficult to do, because she is a parody of herself. And the fact that nearly half of Americans don’t see it is profoundly scary to me.

I gave up network television, specifically the news, eight years ago because I suffer from a tumor disease that causes pain, and stress, which television watching causes, increases that pain. Especially if it’s the news that I watch. So I stopped. But lately, of course, I’m drawn to it like the proverbial moth to a flame, and that flame has become a massive fire that cannot be contained. Smell it? It’s the burning of America. It’s been burning a long time, but now it is totally out of control. Just eight years ago, Sarah Palin would have been the joke when considering running mates. Now suddenly, she’s the real deal. But just who is it that supports her? Just how big is the neo-con population? Big, unfortunately. As far as who, my best guess is that it’s the “reality television” watchers, the anti-higher education, pro religious millions who were created by and for Republicans.

Four years ago, a friend of mine told me her preacher told the congregation that if they didn’t vote for Bush, they weren’t really Christians. She was mortified, and I told her she should report him because they could lose their tax exempt status for mixing church and state. We are now on the brink of that rather large loophole closing. That and a million other things that should turn your hair gray. And if the neo cons get their way, they too, will eventually have things that they cherish disappear, and they will be wondering how it happen. Connecting the dots is not the strong suit of the neo con crowd.

Personally, I think impeachment proceedings on Sarah Palin should start now. Just in case the unthinkable happens. This race should not be nearly as close as it is, and we all know why that is. If it were a white man running against McCain, he would be in the dust right now. Of course, if it were a white man running on the democratic ticket, no one but Alaskans would know who Sarah Palin is.

Posted by: dbsherri | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

"Their bombs killed people, including police officers."
----
Wrong, their bombs never killed police officers. One of their bombs went off accidentally and killed the bomb maker.

What would you call a person who uses the public airwaves to encourage and instruct the public specifically how to murder American law officials?

G. Gordon Liddy, convicted felon, John McCain's "good friend" and financial supporter.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

Did someone in the audience actually say "Kill Him?" Kill who? Obama? Ayers? If so, Gov. Palin should be arrested for inciting the crowd to kill another human being. What's happening to us? Gov. Palin speeches are the stuff of Hilter, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Amin, Mugabe, etc., etc. She is so consumed with hate, anger, and resentment, that she isn't aware that she is parroting some of the worst dictators in history. What took place in Rwanda could happen here, and I fear McCain and Palin will be the ones who could make it happen. God help us all!

Posted by: sgarney | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

Clearly, these displays are orchestrated in advance by campaign operatives, as the Republican convention revealed when the crowd responded en masse before McCain actually gave the verbal cue in his speech.

It's an old trick of Republicans to salt the crowd with operatives who have been given scripts in advance. They are good, also, at getting crowds to cooperative unwittingly.

On a broadcast of Bush's first inauguration (which I have on tape), a party operative is captured telling a crowd of bystanders to "cheer if you love America" - just before Bush's motorcade comes into view.

Deceits like these undermine the democratic process and that is enough reason for me to reject, at the ballot box, the party that employs them.

Posted by: llewis2 | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

First, Palin just learned how to read a newspaper, and I wonder if she read it upside down. She does not have the facts. She is fed lies and then sent to the campaign trail to be looked upon as a fool. Somebody who did not even know that McCain had pulled out of Michigan over the weekend is being used as a stick with no head to feed people with lies that have no basis.

She could not answer debate questions but read what she was given to read. Even my 6 year old son can do that. But that does not make him ready to be VP.

Lastly during the rally somebody said ""Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience". When you cannot beat somebody on the issues and cannot beat millions of Americans who get the truth and know the right kind of change is needed, do you kill them? Shame, Shame, Shame. Palin, you are a disgrace to women and you will go down as the dumbest woman ever found. Its A SHAME.

Posted by: mirandateboh | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

Clearly, these displays are orchestrated in advance by campaign operatives, as the Republican convention revealed when the crowd responded en masse before McCain actually gave the verbal cue in his speech.

It's an old trick of Republicans to salt the crowd with operatives who have been given scripts in advance. They are good, also, at getting crowds to cooperative unwittingly.

On a broadcast of Bush's first inauguration (which I have on tape), a party operative is captured telling a crowd of bystanders to "cheer if you love America" - just before Bush's motorcade comes into view.

Deceits like these undermine the democratic process and that is enough reason for me to reject, at the ballot box, the party that employs them.

Posted by: llewis2 | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

"If we lived in a State where virtue was profitable, common sense would make us good, and greed would make us saintly. And we'd live like animals or angels in the happy land that needs no heroes. But since in fact we see that avarice, anger, envy, pride, sloth, lust and stupidity commonly profit far behond humility, chastity, fortitude, justice and thought, and have to choose, to be human at all... why then perhaps we must stand fast a little--even at the risk of being heroes."

Posted by: gammaman1 | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

Sarah Palin is not like me. She hides her state related work on Yahoo and orders her workers to do so too. She uses a non-secure system and has no backup systems. Those are crimes against the people of Alaska, and right this minute.

When Palin asked about banning books, and got nowhere with it, she fired the librarian. After a furor of townspeople complaining, the librarian was restored to her position. The GOP/Republican spin says, Palin just asked what if. Yes, and when the answer was not happy-face, Palin said the librarian was not a team player.

There is more. Plenty more. Palin is corrupt, a criminal and its all right now. She is under investigation for two diffenent kinds of crimes, right now.

Her lies about Obama wont stick. Hillary already tried all of it, and that's HRC is not a candidate for VP right now.

Enough cultural wars. Its time to throw out the trash.
The young will vote this time and the repression and Taliban rule will end in America.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

All this outrage over smear tactics during political campaigns shows that many Americans are not aware that these tactics have been used in American politics since day one.

If you go back and study previous races you find that this is so.

In every election, the truth is stretched, and this one is no different. Each side claims their talking points is the whole truth when in reality they are not!

So get over it already, do your research so that you vote intelligently and logically and don't get all caught up in the emotion of the moment and lose perspective. The future of this country, yours and mine, hinges upon our making good choices.

Here's hoping for a brighter future!

Posted by: coocoonut | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

Palin is white trash who's best skill is taking a schlong to the root.

Posted by: packaging88

And Hillary isn't?

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

To those questioning Obama's decision to increases taxes for those making more than $250,000/year I say this. He is suggesting lowering the taxes on the middle class. You know, those people who buy things like houses, cars, food, entertainment, etc. Don't forget a HUGE part of the US economy and GDP is domestic spending. Cooperate profits in the US have done very, very well the past couple of decades. It's time to bring some balance back to the equation and help that other part of the economic engine of this country, the spending middle-class.

Posted by: mauroacc | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

You people need to wake up and do some research on the internet instead of posting dumb comments about the political games.

THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS A PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION

http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:DlZYoiNIf-cJ:www.apfn.org/APFN/fed_reserve.htm+us+privately+owned+central+banks&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Posted by: btdirk1 | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

I honestly believe that those who spend most of their time discrediting their opponent really have nothing to offer themselves. Sad.

Posted by: FenZero | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

All this outrage over smear tactics during political campaigns shows that many Americans are not aware that these tactics have been used in American politics since day one.

If you go back and study previous races you find that this is so.

In every election, the truth is stretched, and this one is no different. Each side claims their talking points is the whole truth when in reality they are not!

So get over it already, do your research so that you vote intelligently and logically and don't get all caught up in the emotion of the moment and lose perspective. The future of this country, yours and mine, hinges upon our making good choices.

Heres hoping for a brighter future!

Posted by: coocoonut | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

I am ashame of my Republican Party.We need a new ticket, I voted for Romney in the primary. I can not vote for this ticket. I have no one to vote for I can not even hold my nose and vote for these two clown.
I love my country too much,these are sad days to be a Republican

Posted by: lafayetteude2barepublican | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

On Inguration night Sara Pitbull turns to her running mate grabs him by the tests with her left hand and his respirator with her right hand and whispers softly into his ear "look oldman you are going to do what I say or I'l pull plug"

Posted by: otto3 | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

Mr. McCain and Mrs. Palin are losing the election. They are losing the election by a 5-9% spread by the citizen vote and a huge >60% spread for the electoral college vote.
In addition, the democrats are winning the congressional races and will gain a substantial number of seats. "Out with the bums and robber barons", my father says.

The democrats came into power in January 2008 (when they had enough seats to override the Bush veto)after 7+ yrs of Bush/Cheney Republican imperialism and run amuk partisonship. In January 2009, the democrats will have real power to override the fillibuster. At that time, government will begin to be reconstructed and the disease treated. The constitution has been abused and illegally bystepped by the Bush/Cheney administration and it will be fixed. America's image abroad will begin to be raised and respected. The government departments that were gutted by Bush/Chaney policies, cronyism and unqualified Bushy Republicans hires with their refusal to protect the consumer, our environment, and our economy; these bums will be thrown out. These robber barons will be pushed back with the rule of law as our "weapons" and honor of our constitution.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

"I guess you must be talking about REAL small business involving 1 person. If you have even a couple of employees it is very likely you will make over $250K."


Sigh...

Profit is what the OWNER makes OVER AND ABOVE expenditures. In other words, what they put in their own PERSONAL bank account at the end of the year...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 6, 2008 1:37 PM

tbastian: Who's "WE"??? There are plenty of your fellow Floridians who can't stand McCain and his lies.

Are you saying it's okay to call for KILLING OBAMA? HUH? Wow, what a party you have! You and your party are pathetic.

Palin isn't helping McCain, she is going to be his downfall in the end.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 6, 2008 1:36 PM

"And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,'" she continued.

"Boooo!" the crowd repeated.

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

This is disturbing that Republicans are acting like jr. high students booing and shouting Kill Him. Kill Him?

Posted by: Sidda | October 6, 2008 1:36 PM

Ok. Stand behind Palin/McCain from fear of Obama. That's brilliant. Prejudice is from fear of the unknown. Why don't you spend some time learning about him? If you do, and are a thinking person, you will see he and Michelle are not monsters. They are hardworking family.

And...again...a Republican that cannot give me a reason to vote for McCain other than *I am scared.* heavy, tired sigh

Posted by: Sidda

I, as a conservative do not have anything against either Senator Obama or his wife. I am against them because of their radical philosophies. Senator Obama (who cares about his color) is a Marxist and believes in Marxist philosophy (anyone read Rules for Radicals? - I have).

Make no mistake Senator McCain is not the best Republican candidate by a long shot but, the alternative is going to be a disaster.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:35 PM

See Actor Jon Voight, Go nuts on Obama. Assuses him of all kinds of stuff. He was on fox last night, He went into a rant http://www.huckabeeshow.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 6, 2008 1:35 PM

Dear DaveC1 ,

Obama started his political career with a find raiser at the AYers home. He sat on a board with him. I wouldn't go to a terrorists home or sit on a board with him.

Keating 5- McCain stated in the meetings that he was not there to try and influence any decicion and was there to get a fuller understanding of what was going on. That is on the resotd.

What is Obama on the record as saying about Ayers? Previously, it was that they were friendly. Wright, that he could no more distacne himself from him than he could his own mother....Rezko- Obama helped Rezko get money for "low income housing" that is now condemned as unlivable

Posted by: tbastian | October 6, 2008 1:35 PM

Palin is white trash who's best skill is taking a schlong to the root.

Posted by: packaging88 | October 6, 2008 1:34 PM

This woman gets more dangerous every day. She obviously cares nothing about the American people, when she continues to spew lies and smears, all the while refusing to comply with subpoena's regarding her already abuse of power. If one hair on any American's head is harmed because of her irresponsible and hyperbolic language she should be criminally charged.

Posted by: clnmcln | October 6, 2008 1:34 PM

"her tranparent want of grace as evidenced by her being lying hypocritical whitetrash?

Posted by: iamerican"

Her and Michelle can battle it out I guess. White trash versus the ghetto James Brown with longer hair and a dress.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 1:34 PM

Obama is HOPE. Mccain is HATE (and lies).

The hating GOP is now the minority...look at the polls.

In fact, Add POLLS to the GOP list of HATE and FEAR....that list sure is getting long.

This election will give us back our country. All the mean hateful lying extremists are SO UPSET......we understand. But you'll get over it when the economy is good, and the war is over and we are safer than before, and the world admires us again.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 1:33 PM

What happened to Palin's so-called "Christian" values - "Forgive the sinner,but not the sin". Obama condemned Ayers actions (which by the way occurred when he was 8 years old) yet forgiven his actions and dealt with a rehabilitated pillar of the community.

To paraphrase Palin's own words..Say it ain't so Sarah-six-pack..stop looking backwards...and tell the people what you're going to do for them in the future.

Posted by: striles1 | October 6, 2008 1:33 PM

jbzorg
writes - "I still want to talk about the economy"

Shall we see what a GREAT job our democrat leadership has done for us since they took control of congress during the midterm?

GAS Prices 11/06 $2.22/gallon
GAS Prices September 29, 2008: $3.89/Gallon

DOW 10/06 11,900
DOW September 29, 2008: 10,365.45

NASDAQ 11/06 2,550
NASDAQ September 29, 2008: 1983.73

Consumer Price Index, 11/06 197.6
Consumer Price Index, September 29, 2008: 219

Dollar exchange with Euro Nov - 06 8.823
Dollar exchange with Euro, Sept. 29, 2008: .695
Two important foot notes here –
1) Each of these indicators was at record highs when the libs took over.
2) Note mentioned here are
a. Unemployment skyrocketing upward at the same time when it had average better than under St. Clinton
b. Foreclosures nearly tripling in the same period
c. Inflation up 20-30%

YEAH BABY----- THAT’S CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the last 40 years their philospohy has been the same as it is now; destroy the country if that is what it takes to win the White House.

Yeah folks, that's right - these ignorant liberal clowns have virtually destroyed every segment of our economy single handedly so let's show how smart we are an elect the most liberal of the entir pack of a-holes President.

WHO SAYS THE AVERAGE IQ IN AMERICA IS 100 -
(Well, if you factor in the avg IQ of a liberal is about 60, then it makes sense.)

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 6, 2008 1:33 PM

TBASTIAN... you like lower taxes, me too... what do you think is $4.00 the gallon? The Government is taking your money in ways not called TAXES. What do you call that money lost in the banks that are closing? Who do you think is enjoying that money: the Republican friends protected by your own American laws.

Posted by: fernando1958 | October 6, 2008 1:33 PM

Our retirement plans are going down the drain and all McCain/Palin come up with are desperate smears and hate speech. People need to know, for example, what McCain is going to do to Medicare. That is more important for the country
From the Wall St. Journal Oct. 6, 2008
McCain would pay for his health plan with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, a top aide said, in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 trillion over 10 years to the government programs. The Republican presidential nominee has said little about the proposed cuts, but they are needed to keep his health-care plan "budget neutral," as he has promised. The McCain campaign hasn't given a specific figure for the cuts, but didn't dispute the analysts' estimate.

Posted by: jeffl240 | October 6, 2008 1:32 PM

I do not approve Obama, but Palin's comments on totally irrelevent "Ayers Connection" are outrages. Republicans are desperate. How many idiots will belive them??????

Posted by: paulge | October 6, 2008 1:32 PM

"I guess you must be talking about REAL small business involving 1 person. If you have even a couple of employees it is very likely you will make over $250K."

In revenues: yes, profits: no.

Posted by: tweldy | October 6, 2008 1:32 PM

leeh11281: The Vice President is part of the EXECUTIVE Branch as Defined in the United States Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 1:

"The Executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice-President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:"

The election of the Vice President is further defined in Amendment 12.

Article 1, Section 3, Clause 4 defines the VP's role "The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided."

Neither the Vice President nor the full-time President pro tempore of the Senate preside over the body's routine sessions.

Only Dick Cheney and his staff think that the Vice President is part of the legislative branch.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 6, 2008 1:31 PM

Gee, I wonder if they will show Palin's witch doctor video where an african witch exorcist lays hands on Palin. This woman is a few fries short of a happy meal.

Posted by: t_golstch | October 6, 2008 1:31 PM

Statistically, was Palin's Down's Syndrome child more likely because of:

- her father's obviously being inbred,
- her age, or
- her tranparent want of grace as evidenced by her being lying hypocritical whitetrash?

Posted by: iamerican | October 6, 2008 1:31 PM

Floridians, please think, if you buy into Palin's rehtoric you will appear to be as ignorant as Palin and her buddies believe you are.

Posted by: anony | October 6, 2008 1:31 PM

I knew this was going to get ugly! I am a Obama supporter and will continue to support him and Biden. PLEASE... for Obama! We can't afford to let GI Joe and Barbie run (ruin) this country!

Posted by: Wishbone1 | October 6, 2008 1:31 PM

My fellow Americans, a message from Canada:
if McCain wins (and hell freezes over) just walk towards the border in organize lines, no pushing allowed... we will let you in, give you your Swiss army knife (in case you want to join the army) and we will teach you how to apologize... a lot.

Posted by: fernando1958 | October 6, 2008 1:30 PM

I live in Florida and am going to see Palin tomorrow. Floridians support McCain-Palin as we hate wasteful govt. spending and like low taxes.

We don't rely on the MSM to tell us what to think and are not concerned with what Oprah and the Hollywood Elite think.

Obama is a VERY left winged and dangerous guy. Meeting with extreme world leaders, friends with terrorists, criminals and racists is not the type of President we want.

We want someone who says what they mean and do what they say. It is a new concept for Obama. Voting "present" and voting to rsise my taxes ( although he say's he won't ) is not the type of guy we want. We want less govt. spending, more renewable energy, more clean coal, more gas, more solar.. more loi.. an all of the above mentality to secure our security and break our addiction to foreign oil nations who don't really care about us and would like to destroy us.

So, left wingers, keep that in mind. When it comes to Florida you can beat on McCain to carry the state.

Posted by: tbastian | October 6, 2008 1:30 PM

Rezko: Not one improper action by Obama. Rezko got in trouble later. Had nothing to do with Obama. Rezko is a jerk. Obama knows a jerk. Big deal.

Ayers: Not one improper action by Obama. Ayers got in trouble 40 years earlier and was a college professor by the time Obama met him. Ayers is a jerk. Obama knows a jerk. Big deal.

Keating Five: John McCain committed dispicable acts, all documented by the Senate. Bribes, conflict of interest, abuse of power. Snitched on his friends too.

Obama: A few questionable associations.
McCain: Documented dispicable acts.

All of the Keating Five is on the table this week; you will hear the whole story.

Got a little tip for you: Keating Five is the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: DaveC1 | October 6, 2008 1:30 PM

"Conservatives believe in less government and less taxes. Because bigger government usually means bigger problems.

FACT. The U.S. is broke yet we continue to spend money as a country like drunken sailors."

FACTS: Four years of total government control by Republicans.
- Republican Majority in House
- Republican Majority in Senate
- 7/9 Justices appointed by Republican Preidents
- Republican president
- Massive political capital from wartime situation

- Budget deficit increases
- Spending increases

The system is broken, it really has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. You have two parties making promises to get elected and wanting to stay popular for the next election. Call your representatives and tell them you'll support them if they cut spending and kick them out if they don't. Short of revolution or economic collapse that's what you've got to work with. Complaining about liberals will never solve the problem because it isn't the problem.

Posted by: tweldy | October 6, 2008 1:30 PM

THe only racists and terrorists here are the neocon types like on this board and their heros, like Timothy McVeigh. Besides the Islamic extremists, it is the Christian extremists and right wing extremists who are more likely to be on a terrorist watch.

By the way, if you bother to read Obama's books, his life is open to all who would take the time. Bu then neocons don't read, they just regurgitate what they hear from Limbaugh, Fox News, Savage and the rest of the cult.

Posted by: skolniks

Actually, the term neoconservative was originally used as a criticism against liberals who had "moved to the right".

Michael Harrington, a democratic socialist, coined the usage of neoconservative in a 1973 Dissent magazine article concerning welfare policy.

According to E. J. Dionne, the nascent neoconservatives were driven by "the notion that liberalism" had failed and "no longer knew what it was talking about.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:29 PM

The crowd should have known she was full of BS when she said she was reading, let alone reading a copy of the New York Times. This from a woman who dropped out of FIVE colleges before finding one that would give her a degree in the easiest major you can pursue at any college. If people vote for this talking head.

People in Florida will you betcha because they are just like the image she projects.

Posted by: seemstome | October 6, 2008 1:29 PM

Ok. Stand behind Palin/McCain from fear of Obama. That's brilliant. Prejudice is from fear of the unknown. Why don't you spend some time learning about him? If you do, and are a thinking person, you will see he and Michelle are not monsters. They are hardworking family.
And...again...a Republican that cannot give me a reason to vote for McCain other than *I am scared.* heavy, tired sigh

Posted by: Sidda | October 6, 2008 1:29 PM

"jwilder_gop:

The backbone of American business is SMALL business, most of which do NOT make over 250K a year.

Talk about stupid and BLIND. You have thrown in your lot with people who yell "KILL HIM".

Are you happy??

Posted by: mavisdarling"

I guess you must be talking about REAL small business involving 1 person. If you have even a couple of employees it is very likely you will make over $250K.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 1:28 PM

I wonder who's the Obama puppet master...Soros?, some sheik in Saudi? With a shady past in Illinois politics you would think a street thug like this wouldn't have a chance. Whenever Obama has something bad to say about someone he delegates it to an "aid" instead of saying it himself to avoid looking mean. You can see the Obama camp getting frazzled everytime Palin speaks the truth. Obama = Marxism, plain and simple.

Posted by: Superpower | October 6, 2008 1:28 PM

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mommylove:
I was once told by a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist that the news is like a pig that constantly needs to be fed. The media sees Obama as the one who can best "feed" it.

The media goes for sensationalism. They are liberal - they feed the "what feels good, something for nothing" crowd. That they are allowed to persuade voters with their bias and unaccountability is extremely regrettable.

.

Posted by: Billw3 | October 6, 2008 1:27 PM

when you finish rehashing ancient history, check out Today's news---

MCCAIN FUDGES HIS NAVY RECORD
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/10/mccain_fudges_his_navy_record.html

OH DEAR...was Ayers in his plane making him crash and lie????

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 1:27 PM

Mr. Obama knows a great deal about the financial mess. He is a central figure in the exploitation of financial institutions and pressuring them to make high risk loans. Obama is the second largest recipient of donations on the list at Fannie Mae. Obama has questionable ties to Fannie Mae Executives led by Clinton's former budget director Franklin Raines, recipient of a $1Million Fannie Mae bonus and Obama's campaign advisor Jim Johnson.
Obama Associates and His Campaign Advisor Jim Johnson Allegedly Cooked Fannie Books
Raines and Johnson took Clinton's risky gamble and then rolled the dice. The pair allegedly cooked the books at Fannie, issued countless dubious mortgages, and then took huge bonuses before leaving the company.
Democrats have long been knowledgeable and responsible as seen in an article of the September 30, 1999 edition of the New York Times:
"In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders."
"The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring. "
"Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits."
The high-risk subprime mortgage social engineering community service experiment by left-wing Democrats and Obama has created the largest financial crisis since The Great Depression. The full reach of the corruption and scandal may never be known but those who created it must not be rewarded. The architects, primarily left-wing Democrats, created laws, took donations, looked the other way and actively blocked Republican attempts to avoid the known problems.
Now these same Democrats want to do another high risk "community service," social engineering experiment. They want to elect a high-risk, low experience, socialist one of the same community organizers that created the mess to be our next president. We cannot experiment with the office of president and learn as we go. Barack Obama is not qualified and has no history of success as a leader in government or business.

So go over to the Daily KOS to rant your leftist crap. You won't find disagreement there.

Posted by: prhornbeak | October 6, 2008 1:27 PM

And she suppose to be a christian what about #9

Posted by: lafayetteude2barepublican | October 6, 2008 1:27 PM

I heard Obama has a fetish for James Brown look alikes and that's why he married Michelle ;)

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 1:26 PM

This woman is totally crazy and Americans want her for making decisions? She should run a third category kind of church. She talks like people on crack, she is obsessed!
Be careful do not be full!!!

Posted by: acuherbdr | October 6, 2008 1:26 PM

And here we go....nobody is listening to the haters so they have to drag out the old hater standbys:

muslim

taxes

How many times ya gonna beat that dead horse. It is boring. find something new....YOUR IRRATIONAL FEAR OF EVERYTHING IS ALL CONSUMING --YOU HATE AND FEAR
MUSLIMS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, CATS, LAPEL PINS, OTHER COUNTRIES, OTHER LANGUAGES, OTHER RACES, OTHER EVERYTHING, INCLUDING A REAL FEAR OF SUBPEONAS AND ETHICS PROBES!!!

GOSH DARN! Aren't you TIRED of hating other religions, other countries, other races? Aren't you just worn out???

About the taxes, you are paying through your nose right now for the WAR IN IRAQ. Lets DO talk about that. You could buy all your family's healthcare for what you have spent in tax dollars on Iraq. Happy about that? Bush shoved that down your throat. Happy?

Posted by: sallieismydog

Damn straight I am happy about that because these people who hate us (Al Qaeda et al) have been trying for seven years to attack us on our soil. I would much rather fight them overseas than fight them here. Unlike President Clinton who was too busy having sex with interns to do anything about it.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:26 PM

Obama is the ultimate poster child of Chicago gutter politics, he was groomed and mentored by Boss Tweed Daley, Saul Alinsky, Reverend Wright, and Bill Ayers. He has never bucked his own party on any issue, ever. To have risen to such high prominence through the Chicago political hierarchy and to have not witnessed the absolute corruption therein? Obama is either a stupid fool, turned a blind eye, in denial (not a river in Egypt) or he has, and always will be, just another lying leftist, sock puppet, mouth piece hack for his real political masters.

There is one entity in this election who is in a lose, lose, situation, the MSM.(MAINSTREAM MEDIA) After pulling out all stops and having lost all pretense of objectivity in their unabashed push for Obama. If McCain wins, it will show the media have lost their power. If Obama wins, he will bring confusion, strife and ruin upon us all, and the media will stand undeniably proven to have been the very ones who championed, fostered and installed him upon America.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 6, 2008 1:26 PM

As a Republican I am so sick and tire of the Repulican scare tactics. It's funny how little poor Sarah goes from playing "T" ball on debates to telling the Pro's how to play. I hope the election swings the Obama way to awaken the Republican canidates. I voted for Bush (W) and was very dissapointed in the way he ran things. He MAY be a compassoinate captalist, big business still holds his balls. McCain will follow Bush's policies. We already can't afford the Bush/McCains plans. I am so dissapointed in my own party.

Posted by: houseinthemiddleoftrees | October 6, 2008 1:25 PM

America, read The Wrecking Crew - How Conservatives Rule by Thomas Frank the true story of the how, when and why of the past eight years of Republican rule. It is indeed time to throw the bums out."Whenever there wasa choice to be made between markets and free people - between money and the common good - the conservatives chose money. It's time to make them answer for it."

Posted by: avoter | October 6, 2008 1:25 PM

This is sad another hail mary for McCain. Mcain can't win on the issues so, now he's trying to smear his way to the White house. I now lost all respect for him. How can a war hero do this to a fellow American. I am now voting for Obama.

Posted by: randybowers | October 6, 2008 1:25 PM

jwilder_gop:

The backbone of American business is SMALL business, most of which do NOT make over 250K a year.

Talk about stupid and BLIND. You have thrown in your lot with people who yell "KILL HIM".

Are you happy??

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 6, 2008 1:25 PM

I suppose 8 years with a certifiable idiot illegally situated to make war, not against terrorism, but FOR oil,
deny global warming, not with any scientific backing but WITH Big Oil's moneyed support and
singing all along the other dull tool of greed, Reagan's mindless chant of tinkle on economics wasn't enough for some of you sheeple.
90% of middle/working class americans wrote or called their congressmen to vote AGAINST this fraud of a bailout. They voted FOR it and so far, in 2 days, the Dow is down over 800 points.
This isn't not learning the lessons of history this is either pathological attention deficit or your racism is so inbred it has become a gene.
You will be making your next to last free choice on election day. Your last choice will be to decide if you will be in the long line for the guillotine I'm building.

"W" and his pals have stepped up the raping of america in his final days. His father was one of JFK's killers and they won't go quietly, they are the american Borgias and will do ANYTHING to maintain power.

For the successfully dumbed down ask;
Where's Bin Laden?
Why, since we've controlled the 2nd leading oil producing nation for 7 years are you paying nosebleed prices for gas?
Could it be that this is the "Oil President?"

Posted by: mot2win | October 6, 2008 1:25 PM

It really is sickening, and in the words of Palin "makes me ill" to read a comment board like this. Racism, sexism, ignorance, lies, and distortion run rampant.

Who else is tired of hearing about these smears that politicians are making? How about talking about your own campaign for a change (especially now that BOTH parties are running on a campaign for change now)? If I have to keep on hearing whats so bad about the other side while not hearing a word about whats so great about yours I will go mad! This is why election year after year we are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils, or a third party (who we all know has a snowballs chance in hell of being elected).

On a final note, who is that person in the audience who said kill him? Really? And Sarah Palin does not discourage that sort of remark. Now we are really starting to see what kind of pig she really can be.

Posted by: politicomadness | October 6, 2008 1:25 PM

karen1231: His college roommate? What the hell are you talking about?

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 1:25 PM

THe only racists and terrorists here are the neocon types like on this board and their heros, like Timothy McVeigh. Besides the Islamic extremists, it is the Christian extremists and right wing extremists who are more likely to be on a terrorist watch.

By the way, if you bother to read Obama's books, his life is open to all who would take the time. Bu then neocons don't read, they just regurgitate what they hear from Limbaugh, Fox News, Savage and the rest of the cult.

Posted by: skolniks | October 6, 2008 1:25 PM

1. Obama wins.
2. Terrorists attack before Bush term expires.
3.Bush declares marshal law.
4. Cheney stages coup, sends Bush into exile.
5. Right wing militias take to the streets,round up Prius driving lefties who are sent to camps and made to memorize Ann Coulter's books,& listen to Glen Beck 24/7.
6.Palin feels left out, returns to Alaska, buys nukes from Russia. First dude loses snow race, pushes buttons,
7. AntiChrist dosen't show but Rapture happens anyway.
8. Don't think it can't happen.

Posted by: windhill | October 6, 2008 1:24 PM

The McCain campaign has nothing to offer but meaningless pablum, empty patriotic platitudes, and now, lies, slander, bigotry, and naked aggression. McCain prattles on endlessly about his character and then has his surrogates engage in this kind of behavior? Now we see his true colors and it's not a pretty sight - small minded and vile - anything to win, no matter how ugly. He's not a maverick. He's just a desperate sell out, and picking this vacuous hateful woman as his running mate shows how little character or dignity he has left. I've never been more disgusted by a presidential campaign.

Posted by: Chip_M | October 6, 2008 1:24 PM

Blah BLah BLah "republican deregulation." Here is the regulation that MATTERS IN THIS HOUSING ISSUE BUT DEMOCRATS BLOCKED REFORM BECAUSE IT "WOULD HAVE HURT LOW INCOME HOME OWNERSHIP." It's too bad the MSM can't report the facts like this and are stuck in Obama/democrat cheerleader mode.

I hope the people losing value on their homes don't mind that the democrats willingly took risks leading to the crash. I hope they believe as the democratic leadership does that people with 9th grade educations making 30K a year who "deserve" home ownership is more important thant the economy. Forget the economy; push "social justice."

The root of the economic problems is Fannie/Freddie WHO DEMOCRATS REFUSED TO REGULATE AND ARE ON CONGRESSIONAL RECORD SAYING REGULATION WOULD HURT GETTING LOW INCOME PEOPLE HOMES.

I hope all of you losing money on your homes out there are grateful to Barney, Schumer, Obama, Clinton and Kerry who all received a lot of money from Fannie/Freddie to BLOCK REPUBLICAN ATTEMPTED REGULATION OF THE AGENCIES. I hope it is worth it to you to lose money and pay overpriced mortgages so that someone working at a gas station with a 9th grade education can own a home too. I mean come on its their "right." Ignore the fact they're lazy bottom feeders who haven't tried for education or to get a skilled job they "need help" which trumps logic or the economy.

These agencies forced private business to give out bad loans and sold the mortgages into bundles into the market.

Posted by: Cryos | October 6, 2008 1:23 PM

The politics of fear = GOP...we don't need the Republican kind of "protection"-- another 4 years of this crap and we won't have any more rights...The Bill of Rights and The Constitution have been tattered by the GOP cabal - the rights we have given up in the name of Big Brother "protecting" us won't easily be gotten back, if ever-- the GOP Terrorists are very real, currently they are in power. Thankfully, they should be removed from power in a few short weeks.....Change is Coming-- Thank God...President Obama. Now More than Ever!

Posted by: pax_vobiscum2002 | October 6, 2008 1:23 PM

The crowd should have known she was full of BS when she said she was reading, let alone reading a copy of the New York Times. This from a woman who dropped out of FIVE colleges before finding one that would give her a degree in the easiest major you can pursue at any college. If people vote for this talking head.

Gotta get back to sending off resumes for overseas jobs, just in case McCain wins.

Posted by: NOLADarling | October 6, 2008 1:23 PM

I don't call this news. I call it poor judgement and childish. This, if anything, is just inflammatory. It is the responsibility of the newspaper to find out the real facts, not publish conflict and expect it to benefit people. It seems to me like you want to start a "war" in order to make money.

Posted by: denise_michelle | October 6, 2008 1:23 PM

Watergate, Gordon Liddy contributed 300k to McCain and interviewed him on his radio show, Gordon Liddy broke into the watergate hotel and had plans to kill and kidnapped people with Richard Nixon.

Alaska Independence Party, watch the video where the president of the party in the 2007 convention admits Sarah was a member and her husband is still a member.

Troopergate, today 8 witnesses who had refused previously to testify agreed to go before the investigator and submit, this is going to hurt.

Keating Five, Worst economic disaster in US history perpetrated by John McCain's political godfather.

Bridges to Nowhere are still being built.

Gas pipelines not being built.

Mental Recession, Im basically a deregulator.

http://www.keatingeconomics.com/

Posted by: otto3 | October 6, 2008 1:23 PM

I am baffled by the assertion that pointing out Obama's past association with Ayers -- no matter how limited or extensive -- is racist. Ayers and his fellow Weathermen [and SDS] were primarily fairly well-to-do white college students and most certainly under Webster's definition they were terrorists. Their bombs killed people, including police officers. Instead, this is exactly the same unfair tactic used by Obama in the Democratic primary against Clinton of baselessly accusing the other side of racism in an effort to "shout down" the opposition. It actually worked very well against Clinton, and as long as the mainstream media continues to coddle Obama it will work again.

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 6, 2008 1:23 PM

let's kill him?

Someone show ask Palin if she heard that statement and how she feels about it or if she did, how come she didn't reprimand the idiot who said it.

BTW: Ayers was acquitted., Gordon Liddy is a convicted felon.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 6, 2008 1:14 PM
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She is just like McCain, recall when in the GOP Primary a supporter of his called Senator Clinton a B*tch and he let that pass.

Palin's silence is what is commonly known as passive approval.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 6, 2008 1:22 PM

I have to laugh at those of you proud that you voted already for Obama. I guess the fact that he was not a child when he worked with the unapologetic domestic terrorist Ayers doesn't matter to you. He worked with Ayers at the Annenberg Challenge. He was still working with him after 9/11/2001 at the Woods Fund when Ayers said he had not bombed enough and was not sorry and stood on the American flag. He wasn't a child when Ayers held Obama's first fund raiser in Ayers home when Obama ran for the Illinois Senate.

I guess you wouldn't mind a President who chummed with Timothy McVeigh another domestic terrorist either. McVeigh killed more but Ayers tried hard with more bombings. He just got on a technicality and McVeigh didn't. Liberals who don't mind this are sick and likely agree with Rev Wright damning America. What a sad group of people in the Democrat Party who wish for a President who is a Marxist and with his choice of friends will likely destroy America. Never ask if it could be worse than it is because with Obama and his ilk the answer is a resounding YES.

Posted by: Von123 | October 6, 2008 1:22 PM

Sickening and disgusting. I hope I *don't* see America the same way Sarah Palin and her supporters do.

Posted by: ethel08 | October 6, 2008 1:22 PM

Where's Sarah Palin's righteous indignation at associating with criminal financiers who robbed people of their life's savings (Charles Keating) or "domestic terrorists" and convicted felons who suggested shooting BATF agents (US federal employees) in the head, in case they're wearing body armor (G. Gordon Liddy)?

No, wait, those were people who raised money and buddied around with John McCain. Sorry.

Posted by: adjensen | October 6, 2008 1:22 PM

"Many of you democraps are in for a shock come November 5th."

"Sadly, it looks more and more certain that Obummer will win this election. "

"Palin is a racist cvnt. "

"SARAH PALIN, YOU ARE A TRULY PATHETIC CREATURE!"

"OSAMA HUSSEIN OBAMA, YOU ARE A TRULY PATHETIC CREATURE!"

Name calling is a pathetic indicator of your own astonishing immaturity and utterly valueless contribution. Please don't vote, don't post, and stay home. Your input is without merit or value. Instead, spend some time growing up.

Posted by: tweldy | October 6, 2008 1:22 PM

Kill em???? Not all conservatives are stupid, but all stupid people are conservative.

Posted by: ckasch

CKasch you are an uneducated moron to make a statement like that. Conservatives believe in less government and less taxes. Because bigger government usually means bigger problems.

FACT. The U.S. is broke yet we continue to spend money as a country like drunken sailors.

A great website to reference is http://senateconservatives.com.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:22 PM

Why is there not more mention of Palin and her husband having ties to the Alaska secessionist movement?!!!

This is their own words.

Until we as Alaskans receive our Ultimate Goal, the AIP will continue to strive to make Alaska a better place to live with less government interference in our everyday lives.

AND!:

Governor Palin’s connections with the AIP are also furthered by her connection to Wally Hickel, a former Alaskan governor. Hickel was elected on the AIP ticket. He served as the co-chairman of Governor Palin’s campaign in 2006
Here is a quote from an interview Hickel did with the Alaska Dispatch:


Also she blocked abortion clinics and had ties to groups that bombed them.

She is condescending and smug and she is the WORST person they could have picked.
America needs to smarten up. This is our future at stake and Palin/McCain supporters don't educate themselves and believe lies and rhetoric. You Palin supporters are pathetic.

Oh and being ok with them courting the racists is disgusting.

Posted by: dryadswhisper | October 6, 2008 1:21 PM

All I have to say is:

Kaeting 5
Alaska Trooper-gate
Thomas Muthee

Palin is an empty pair of heels.
She doesn't have an original thought in her head.

What ever happened to McCain running an honorable campaign?

Losers.

Posted by: jc1201 | October 6, 2008 1:21 PM

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Obama supporters suck. CNN just noted that Obama was not NOW friends with Ayers, nor had he been in the last three years. This is their brazen defense of the half muslim.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 6, 2008 1:21 PM

Every gaff and heckler is reported at a McCain/Palin rally by the news media. There have been plenty, even black hecklers, at Obama rallies that are never reported. Silly gaffs by both Obama and Biden go largely unreported or commented upon by the big mouth commentators. I am convinced that the press is in need of a script change to such an extent that it will create the news to suit its own monetary interests, and elect Obama/Biden ticket in 2008. I was once told by a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist that the news is like a pig that constantly needs to be fed. The media sees Obama as the one who can best "feed" it. Mc Cain is a has-been. Palin scares the hell out of them. She tells it like it is! Bill Clinton seems to be only person who takes her seriously.

Posted by: mommylove | October 6, 2008 1:21 PM

Yeah, I have a REAL problem with the man in the audience who yelled "Kill Him".

This country is in SAD shape when it comes to this, and all we have is Republicans, most of whom are closet racists, to thank.

Signed, with tears in my eyes,

A White Montana Cowgirl who loves Barack Hussein and Michelle Obama.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 6, 2008 1:21 PM

Why don't you blind Obama supporters take a look at what he's saying, rather than making the stupid jokes. He says he wants to tax those who earn over $250,000/year, and real stick it to corporations who make much more than that. He wants to do this and give it back to the "Middle Class". So you want to vote for a guy that wants to give you a little handout, while killing the other guys that pay our salary. How is that going to help the economy? It may help you depend on goverment more and more, but it will not help you get better pay, better health care, send your children to college. May those corporations will be patriotic (as Biden says) and not pass on those new taxes to us the consumers, DOUBT IT. How many administrations are we going to have to go through, that keep trying this same old approach that never works. I guess I'm just clinging to my guns and religion again!

Posted by: jwilder_gop | October 6, 2008 1:20 PM

mskoo, you're right, information is free, and a whole lot of people just choose to spit out the "cud" they've been fed. I'm afraid of all who will vote based on the "cud".

Posted by: educatedchick | October 6, 2008 1:20 PM

And here we go....nobody is listening to the haters so they have to drag out the old hater standbys:

muslim

taxes

How many times ya gonna beat that dead horse. It is boring. find something new....YOUR IRRATIONAL FEAR OF EVERYTHING IS ALL CONSUMING --YOU HATE AND FEAR
MUSLIMS, CATHOLICS, JEWS, CATS, LAPEL PINS, OTHER COUNTRIES, OTHER LANGUAGES, OTHER RACES, OTHER EVERYTHING, INCLUDING A REAL FEAR OF SUBPEONAS AND ETHICS PROBES!!!

GOSH DARN! Aren't you TIRED of hating other religions, other countries, other races? Aren't you just worn out???

About the taxes, you are paying through your nose right now for the WAR IN IRAQ. Lets DO talk about that. You could buy all your family's healthcare for what you have spent in tax dollars on Iraq. Happy about that? Bush shoved that down your throat. Happy?

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 1:20 PM

"Okay, so Florida, you know that you're going to have to hang onto your hats," Sarah Palin told a rally...

Most of whom misunderstood her and went right home to polish their helmets.

Posted by: laboo | October 6, 2008 1:20 PM

You people need to wake up. This is not about Democrat vs. Republican. This is not about Liberal vs. Conservative. This is about corporations vs. people.

Washington is controlled by lobbyists; they put tax breaks for wooden arrows into a financial "rescue" bill! They give no-bid cost-plus contracts to their own friends, as Cheney did to Halliburton.

Did you know the national debt is over $10 trillion now? Washington passes "emergency" supplemental spending bills, funding the wars off-budget by taking out loans from places like China (!), Japan, and OPEC. Call it "tax your children and spend".

Here you are, fighting each other, bickering and trying to feel superior, while the state of our nation deteriorates. Wake up. Vote against every incumbent - every last one. Vote everyone out of office, for this election and for every election in the foreseeable future.

Posted by: DCX2 | October 6, 2008 1:20 PM

How is this worthy of news coverage? This is a distraction from the issues we voters care about.

Posted by: steveeb | October 6, 2008 1:20 PM

The so called "MichelleObama" who posts here posted
NOBAMA - guilty by association

With that kind of association is used John Mccain is a communist.

Posted by: hockeypuxx | October 6, 2008 1:20 PM

From the biography of the "terrorist":

(http://billayers.wordpress.com/biography-history/)

"William Ayers, Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), and founder of both the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society, teaches courses in interpretive and qualitative research, urban school change, and teaching and the modern predicament. A graduate of the University of Michigan, the Bank Street College of Education, and Teachers College, Columbia University, Ayers has written extensively about social justice, democracy and education, the political and cultural contexts of schooling, and the meaning-making and ethical purposes of students and families and teachers. His articles have appeared in many journals including the Harvard Educational Review, the Journal of Teacher Education, Teachers College Record, Rethinking Schools, the Nation, the New York Times and the Cambridge Journal of Education. His books include A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), The Good Preschool Teacher: Six Teachers Reflect on Their Lives, (Teachers College Press, 1989), and To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher, (Teachers College Press, 1993) which was named Book of the Year in 1993 by Kappa Delta Pi, and won the Witten Award for Distinguished Work in Biography and Autobiography in 1995."

Posted by: vbrago | October 6, 2008 1:20 PM

shes a loose cannon with blind ambition, she scares the hell out of me , we own some land in mexico that ive never seen , if she gets in the white house im moving to mexico, god will do the right thing , hopefully next year she will be on dancing with the stars

Posted by: midaslucy | October 6, 2008 1:19 PM

Hey "MichelleObama", my example was sarcasm, you moron. Sorry I have to explain that to you.

Posted by: dj421 | October 6, 2008 1:19 PM

This is for Sidda. I choose to stand behind the McCain/Palin ticket not so much because I support all their views but more because I am terrified for this country if Osama-Obama gets to the White House!

Posted by: SlingBlade | October 6, 2008 1:19 PM

I'm glad to see Palen and McCain riding on the heels of the ole Republican scare and lie campaign they used in 2000 and 2004. It ain't gonna work this time hockeyMom...

So we are to believe that when Obama was 8 years old he was part of the weatherman radical group? Only idiots would believe that, well them and the people who voted for Bush...twice!

When this is all said and done the only people who will vote for the McPain ticket will be the people who fell for it in 2000 and 2004, still believe Iraq attacked us on 9/11, and Palen is protecting our Alaskan border with Russia.

And the guy in the crowd yelling, "Kill Him!" Typical response from a loser with no intelligence...

Posted by: ksmoneal | October 6, 2008 1:18 PM

If it's not on C-Span, I don't trust it. I don't need the media telling me what someone just said. I don't like either McCain or Obama; but I'm not naive enough to believe that Obama can cut middle-class taxes, turn around and tax industry to make up the difference and not know that taxing business causes higher unemployment and higher consumer prices. McCain won't secure the borders....I'm voting for Palin and hope that her inexperience will turn this country around.

Remember, Bush has never had Congressional support during his 8 years. The media has slandered him like they have no other President in history. Everything that has been done this century has been for the party and not for the nation. Bush has been rendered ineffective by a system that is so broken it needs to be abandoned. For the last 4 years we've experienced the leadership of the Democrats in both House and Senate. We are where we are because the Democrats haven't got a clue and the Republicans don't have the balls to stick to the platform that got them elected. They all need to go.

Posted by: kagnewvet | October 6, 2008 1:18 PM

This is why I don't think that Florida will go for Obama.
You see being a white racist myself I have some personal insight into what Clearwater Florida is like.
Like St Petersburg to the south and Tampa to the east, Clearwater has an African American neighborhood with relatively few whites intermixed.
Drugs and prostitution are a problem and several blocks of this approximately 5 square miles have been sealed with concrete barricades so the police can monitor traffic in and out.
What surprises me is that the Scientologist influenced community (their world headquarters are located in Clearwater) would be so hate filled toward Barack Obama. Typically it's the central and north Florida cracker who punctuates his speech with the N bomb.
Sarah Palin would be right at home in this crowd. She can speak to their inner racist.

Race first, Country last

Posted by: seemstome | October 6, 2008 1:18 PM

It's the economy, stupid!

I don't care that Palin went a preacher who "protected her" from witchcraft or that she ripped off Alaska for $17,000 in per diems while she sat at home, or Troopergate, or her extramarital affair, or her husband's affiliation with a separatist group. Well, okay, actually, I do care about that. She's unqualified.

But I still want to talk about the economy.

Posted by: jbzorg | October 6, 2008 1:18 PM

A certain mindless twit stated about Democrats "I've got a job to support your welfare checks".

I am a democrat and I don't know a single person who receives ANY public assistance.

However, if you go into the rural south and midwest, will will find plenty that are, and many of those American are what the Republicans call their BASE.

It is an elitist, classist snob that associates those who are less fortunate with being a drain on society.

What ever happened to the "religious" right?

It never existed.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 6, 2008 1:18 PM

jwilder_gop: Actually, Obama has been investigated, vetted and has been through the ringer. Some might even say that he's been through more scrutiny because he is a man of color. And, btw, the guy who yelled, "kill him" in the crowd? That's the kind of people that Palin is attracting? Is that not a problem? I was very stupid indeed and the fact that Palin didn't call him on it only indicates to me that she isn't at all concerned with how her campaign is viewed. The McCain/Palin ticket seems to encourage booing, stupid remarks and bad manner, in general. Just take a look at the RNC convention to get a better picture of what that mean. They must think she above scrutiny. Reminds of some other people. Oh yeah, our current President and his VP. Is that how it work? Because, if that were a dem gathering, the RNC would be calling for Obama's head on a platter for not calling it out as unacceptable.

On the other hand, it's good to that Governor Palin is reading at least one newspaper, even if she is distorting and misquoting the content.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 6, 2008 1:18 PM

America, read The Wrecking Crew - How Conservatives Rule by Thomas Frank the true story of the how, when and why of the past eight years of Republican rule. It is indeed time to throw the bums out."Whenever there was a choice to be made between markets and free people - between money and the common good - the conservatives chose money. It's time to make them answer for it."

Posted by: avoter | October 6, 2008 1:18 PM

jwilder...you have obviously been reading Republican propaganda...that comment is taken out of context....for the love of god...do a little investigating and reading rather than being so easily led. You Palin supporters are AMAZING. Think for yourselves for heaven's sake

Posted by: Sidda | October 6, 2008 1:17 PM

In an effort to show Senator McCain's bad judgement in financial markets and deregulation in the PAST, and the same bad judgement of deregulation over the Bush/Cheney years, the Obama campaign today released a website review of McCain's involvement in the 1980s Savings & Loan apocalypse.
McCain was one of the Keating 5 government officials in the Keating Savings & Loan scandal that set off the financial collapse of banks and savings&loans across the country and cost the American tax player over $100B. Mr. McCain escaped jail but was repremanded by Congress for poor judgement for "palling around with", taking money and perks from Keating, and lobbying Congress for deregulation in Keatings behalf. Actual letters from Mr. McCain in behalf of the deregulation are on the website.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 6, 2008 1:17 PM

To all those die-hard republicans - how about a look at the REAL John McCain:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/4

Posted by: Drewster1 | October 6, 2008 1:16 PM

When you want America to stop looking at real the issues, start slinging some mud and hope some of it sticks. Did you look at the stock market lately? and you want to talk about some dude from when Obama was 8 years old?????
"Okay, so Florida, you know that you're going to have to hang onto your hats," Sarah Palin told a rally of a few thousand here this morning, "because from now until election day it may get kind of rough." That incompetent Alaskan scares the heck out of me. Let me talk a little folksy and not seriously debate a single issue. The sad part is the media is letting that woman get away with it. Shame on YOU MSM

Posted by: WIldmofo | October 6, 2008 1:16 PM

You are witnessing the death throes of the McCain campaign.

Morally bankrupt, no vision for the future, clueless on the economy and outflanked by the Obama campaign at every turn. John McCain has degenerated into the type of politician he once loathed, and Sarah Palin-who couldn't hold her own against Katie Couric-now seems to think she's a heavyweight.

Even this association with Ayers is weak. McCain had much tighter associations with Phil Gramm (architect of banking deregulation that has led to our economic crisis) and with Keating in the savings and loans scandal:

www.keatingeconomics.com

Posted by: icposse2000 | October 6, 2008 1:16 PM

Posted by: otto3 | October 6, 2008 1:15 PM

When I sign on to the Washington Post, the first thing I see is a paid advertisement for Obama. Your post from readers are obviously well chosen as well. Ayers is just the tip of the iceberg. I am disgusted by this man's affiliation with America haters, such as his pastor for 20 years, the man who helped him get into Harvard, his college roommate, and the list goes on. He has surrounded himself with questionable people... even if 1/10 of the allegations are true, he should be on the Terrorist Watch list, not the democratic ticket.

Posted by: karen1231 | October 6, 2008 1:15 PM

And yes I consider guilt by association to matter when it happens this often and with such extremes.

Sitting on a board with Ayers for years.
Launching his political career from Ayers' living room in 1995.
Close ties and financial dealings with convicted felon (and Pakastani) Tony Rezko to the tune of millions of dollars.
Sitting in the church of race-hate mongering preacher Jerimiah Wright for 20 years.

By the way, Obama claims to have gone to that church for 20 years, twice a month, and considered Wright to be his "closest mentor." And we are to believe he never heard him spewing out that racist filth?

Yes, we have true racists and terrorists close to this campaign, and for some reason Obama has gravitated to them repeatedly over the last 20 years.

Posted by: innominateuser | October 6, 2008 1:15 PM

Think you know John McCain


Read the article and watch the video's

The GOP want to start mudslinging, they better duck very low:


http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: kentaylor1 | October 6, 2008 1:14 PM

There was a post that referenced McCain and some tie to the Mob. To be honest if I was sent a birthday invite to a mob boss birthday party, I would probably send a card and sleep in a remote undisclosed location for a couple of weeks.

Be honest with yourselves folks, both parties are going to take this country backwards. The financial markets are a mess because Wall Street found a way to cook the books and get away with it.

However please don't forget that congress created this mess by pushing the liberal idea that someone who can't afford a $300K house should get a loan for it.

And then also don't forget that instead of keeping the equity in their homes (like our parents did), the stupid america that got the $300K loan, took a home equity loan for another $ 50K to put themselves upside down, because the new car, new lcd, and new cell phone was more important then making sure their family is financially secured.

Let's face it there are 3 senators on the ticket that let this all happen, which is not good for our country.

At the end of the day what makes or breaks a president is the cabinet they put in place. Nothing good will come from a 4 year junior senator with no ties to the people that really run the country, the cabinet members.

Posted by: UpforGrabs | October 6, 2008 1:14 PM

let's kill him?

Someone show ask Palin if she heard that statement and how she feels about it or if she did, how come she didn't reprimand the idiot who said it.

BTW: Ayers was acquitted., Gordon Liddy is a convicted felon.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 6, 2008 1:14 PM

Many of you democraps are in for a shock come November 5th.

Later, unlike you democraps I have a job to go to to support your welfare checks.

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:14 PM

Hey SARAH--wake up and read more newspapers! Hillary already played the Rev Wright and Ayers card doggonne it! And a heckuva lot of us were concerned! But, word has it that you, Ms Palin, the moosehunter with a wicked slap shot, are under investigation and the subject of an abuse of power trial? Is that true? I'm gonna keep my eye on you..gosh darnit. And if the irishman O'Bama is elected, I hope the Democrats don't storm Alaska and kick all you evangelical back woods loons out.

Posted by: indytucker | October 6, 2008 1:13 PM

Kill em???? Not all conservatives are stupid, but all stupid people are conservative.

Posted by: ckasch | October 6, 2008 1:13 PM

Senior Citizens of Florida:

Read Obama's book Dreams From My Father. He talks about Frank, his late mentor who was like a "father" to Obama. Frank Marshall Davis, a poet, was also an strong communist, a member of a party subservient to the Soviet Union. Frank visited Obama in Hawaii and Obama writes that they read poety and Frank was full of hard earned knowledge and advise. Goggle this communist's name or go to www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor.com

Obama's Harvard education was funded by a terrorist Muslim organization from Texas (believe it left Texas after 9/11 because of our govt.) and from the Saudis.

Do we want to live in a socialist country? I don't. Government has never been the answer to our problems, they seem to create problems. Look at the liberal states of New York, Mass. & Calif. and the City of Chicago....all in a financial mess.

Posted by: love234america | October 6, 2008 1:13 PM

I see on this post how the not-educated supporters of Barack Obama are saying things like 'It's the Economy!!' and 'It's About My 401K'.

What people don't realize is that 1/3 of the public DON'T pay any taxes whatsoever. 2/3 of the public pay taxes. Of the 2/3, the top 50% ($60,000 and above) pay 97% of the taxes for the American public.

Senator Obama is going to be giving tax breaks to those people who do not pay anything at all into the system and raise taxes on those that do. For example, if the 2001 & 2003 tax cuts are not made permanent, my taxes are going up by almost 50%. Senators Obama and Biden call that 'fairness'. Do you?

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 1:13 PM

pro36 @ 12:34 p.m.

Do we need the criminal in our WH?

And, this election should be any different than the others, how? Let's see - we'd have to go back to Eisenhower to find a President that hasn't had serious criminal issues before, during or after their Presidency. And before that, well - I'd guess we'd have to go all the way back to Lincoln.

Rezko has never been near the Chicago Mob, the Mob in general is not the least bit interested in the Office of the President anymore, Ayers is entitled to free speech, free association and can pay for his own crimes - so, whether or not Obama sat on a charity board with him has absolutely no bearing on Obama's fabricated "criminal" activities.

McCain is a war criminal - and given history, that makes him pretty fit for office I guess.

Posted by: rwbird | October 6, 2008 1:13 PM

Sarah Palin is pretty much a dead horse right now who can still keep flogging. If people didn't believe her before, she thinks that they will start believing her now. She is typical of someone who shows up at a party late and then thinks that everyone was talking about when she would get there. John McCain is going down because he is not running as who he was, but rather who he has become.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 6, 2008 1:13 PM

Strange thing is when a domestic terrorist back in the 70's. Back when most of you republicans were smoking dope in college. Ayers has done more for the public school system then any politican.

Maybe he should get goverment funds for one project. Then cancel it and build a hocky stadium.

Posted by: ccrowley | October 6, 2008 1:12 PM

More of same from the Fearmongering Freemarket Fascists for Jesus.

BTW, am I the only guy who remembers that the Maverick was a cheap Ford from the early 70s???

Posted by: jaxpop | October 6, 2008 1:12 PM

Ignorant, intolerant, vile, disgusting...Oh, I forgot, she's also a Christian. As Gandhi famously said, "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Posted by: pmb72 | October 6, 2008 1:12 PM

concernedaboutdc,

What do you have against mop-heads... racist.

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:08 PM
____________________________________________

I was referring to the inanimate floor cleaning aparatus. A THING that is incapable of thinking. Whew...do I need to set a learning curve for you?

I see now why you relate so well with Palin.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 6, 2008 1:12 PM

The scariest part of all this, is that people will unwittingly believe every word. Even without all the information. People please, knowledge is free (for now) go out and get it.

Posted by: msk00 | October 6, 2008 1:12 PM

Do we accuse McCain of being a communist because he spoke with his captors in Vietnam?

Posted by: dj421
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Oh I see... so because JOHN MCCAIN was being tortured by people then he would naturally agree with them... you democraps get dumber by the second.

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:12 PM

They both stink.
I am withholding my vote unitl I get a qualified viable candidate.

HILLARY 2012

Posted by: cleocat | October 6, 2008 1:12 PM

Rant, extremists, rant!!! Rage on!!

Your hate for Obama is helping America like him even more. you all hate and hate and hate. Such an awful life you choose.

And you most certainly HATE the people who dare to HOPE. You are scared of them. They are smart and kind and informed. They are winning this election.

Don't hate and fear so much. take your own life back from the fearmongers and the hatemongers in the extreme GOP and learn how to hope for something better. We are going to fix the the atrocities of Bush's years. Our lives are going to be better. WE see HOPE....GOP sees HATE.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 1:11 PM

What else can she do? So far behind in polls their only option is to make the other guy seem worse than what we got now. Good luck with that but hang on to the winter clothes.

Posted by: madest | October 6, 2008 1:11 PM

This is the best they can do when the nation is suffering?

Posted by: vobiscum36 | October 6, 2008 1:11 PM

I think its clear that when you are the butt of every comedians joke its time to retire the spurs off your mavericky campaign. This goes to both McCain and Palin. From a UK newspaper - this campaign is nothing more than an international joke:
“shallow, mendacious and phoney” -- What kind of maverick, after all, keeps harping on what a maverick she is? That her performance was considered anything but a farce doesn't show how high Palin has risen, but how low we all have sunk."

Posted by: skr831 | October 6, 2008 1:11 PM

"I am just so fearful that this is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America, as the greatest force for good in the world. I'm afraid this is someone who sees America as 'imperfect enough' to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country."


This is great! In Florida - where the Jewish vote is pivotal.

The Jews remember this kind of language - the language that pits one group against the other. The language that accuses someone of not loving their country based on associations - religous and/or political.

Good luck with that Palin!

Posted by: keitht1 | October 6, 2008 1:11 PM

Just think about it. If a know-nothing like Palin can get the "Republican base" energized, what does that say about the base? These are people who don't think. They just raise their hands and say the equivalent of "sieg heil." That's why when Bush had the White House, and the Repubs had majorities in the Congress and Senate, they rubbe-stamped virtually all his proposed legislation. That never happened when the Democrats had the three institutions. That's because Democrats are not ideologues. They're true individuals. Let's hope the lemmings of "the base" go marching together off a cliff in November.

Posted by: rob15 | October 6, 2008 1:11 PM

To all the stubborn, irrational Republican supporters here:

I'm tired of getting stuck with the government you people deserve. Get with the program and support the Democrats this year. The country will be thankful you did.

Posted by: neon_bunny | October 6, 2008 1:11 PM

So just because someone attacks Obama they are a racist? Rrrrrright. Double standard.

Palin is right on this one. Obama and Ayers doled out millions of dollars to failed initiatives in Chicago as recently as 2002.

Before you take the low road and play the RACE CARD for no reason at all, check your facts. Obama has some seriously bad friends.

Posted by: innominateuser | October 6, 2008 1:10 PM

"Look how they have Sarah dressed in WHITE today! Like that is somehow going to make Sarah sweeter?"

Just what I was thinking. Where's her glittery wand? Maybe they'll throw candies to the crowd next.

Posted by: laboo | October 6, 2008 1:10 PM

Palin and McCain are the real terrorists. Even worse than the Bush neocons, they would destroy American in order to save it.

Posted by: mich123 | October 6, 2008 1:10 PM

I see the w post is pro Obama. And it is a bit easier to look at these things when I am not for either candidate.
I also see that those who support Obama (infatuated by him) sprew the most hate, in a juvenile style. They hate Palin even more than they hate McCain.
Wish I could draw this political satire cartoon: There is a restaurant, the advertising billboard states the name of the restaurant as "The Americana, free choice for all" The two dishes offered are the republican and the democratic. The republican has a red white and blue plate with a pile of dirt on it, "Reclaimed
Dirt", "It wont kill you".
The Democratic plate has a pile of dirt on it, "HOPEFULLY you will find some microorganisms and grubs in our dirt"
So there is your choice R dirt or D dirt.

Posted by: bighead1 | October 6, 2008 1:10 PM

concernedaboutdc,

If you continue to hang out with those drug dealers and murders then yes, you're just as bad because you can't separate yourself from bad decisions. Dumbass.

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:10 PM

I find it amusing that McCain/Palin supporters would say that Obama doesn't understand the common person because of his income. Have these people looked at the McCain family income? Hello??

Also, this guilt-by-association stuff is complete BS. I'm sure that pretty much ANYONE who hasn't locked themselves in a cabin in the wilderness for their entire life has known someone who has done distasteful things. What's next? Do we accuse McCain of being a communist because he spoke with his captors in Vietnam?

Posted by: dj421 | October 6, 2008 1:09 PM

Really, people! Did you ever ask why someone like "us" doesn't run for high office? We've had nothing but politicians for hmmmm 100 years! Sarah is like us! She's exposing all that you fail to pay attention to about Obama!! If "she" were a "he", I do believe he would be your pick! Bill Clinton was a governor who won the election. (I'm a Republican that voted for Bush) A governor is not a dummy! She's not a dummy! Have you really taken time to read about WHY the economy is where it is today? Yes indeed, the Republicans tried to get Fred & Fanny under control, but Fred & Fanny were out c$o$u$r$t$i$n$g(read between the lines) the Democrats who said NO to the Republicans. Oh, the Democrats strong armed the lenders to give mortgages to low income applicants who could not afford them -- No proof of income necessary! What else did they expect????!!! We're all angry about the situation, but don't Ahhh comeon now, some of you are downright crazythinkin'. Bottom line, nobody's gonna fix this mess -- in the USA or worldwide -- the real SAVIOR will -- watch out!

Posted by: educatedchick | October 6, 2008 1:08 PM

McCain ran for president before, why didn't all you republicans support him then. Why was George W. better, You doubted him then. 8 years does't change anything. McCain bought a few more homes.

Posted by: ccrowley | October 6, 2008 1:08 PM

concernedaboutdc,

What do you have against mop-heads... racist.

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:08 PM

leeh11281 says
"Name me a lie that she has said. Name 1? At the V.P. debate, I counted 16 flat out lies that Senator Biden told. What's more, in every reference of the Constitution that he made, he was wrong. And that is something Senator Biden is supposed to be good at."

Name one question that she answered that was on topic?

Next of all people in glass houses don't throw rocks. Their house is crumbling and this is the best they have. Shame on the Post for reporting how one in the crowd shoute "kill him"

Posted by: hockeypuxx | October 6, 2008 1:08 PM

You know, if all you rebublocraps weren't so scared of Obama you wouldn't even be trying so hard here. Why don't you sick the nazi storm troopers (oops, I mean "truth squad") on him?

McCain... more wars, less jobs

Posted by: neon_bunny | October 6, 2008 1:08 PM

"Turn the page on the Economy??" oh my what ruthless cowards the GOP are. They would rather discuss discredited innuendo than focus upon what the rest of the County, the World is focusing upon: the economy. Truly, though...I live in Ohio and his Campaign has been in the gutter from the beginning-- I am so proud to say that I have already cast my vote for the future president: Senator Obama!

Posted by: pax_vobiscum2002 | October 6, 2008 1:07 PM

brehove,
You should be afraid. Put down the bong and realize that NOBAMA's change would be for the worse.

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:07 PM

So Barry was eight... the bottom line is that AYERS said that he wishes the 9/11 terrorists had done more!!! Once a terrorist, ALWAYS a terrorist. NOBAMA makes lousy decisions on the people he cohorts with... REZKO, RAINES, AYERS... poor decision skills.

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:01 PM
___________________________________________

Well, using your mophead logic, some of the people I went to school with at 8 years old are now drug dealers, and one is even in prison for homicide. I guess because I attended the local public school, as required then, I too, am a drug dealer and homicidal maniac, only with a Master's degree.

Ohh, I forgot, you are of the since I live in Alaska I have international foreign policy experience crowd.

Carry on...

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 6, 2008 1:07 PM

Tom ..

What's "False" about Palin talking about another one of Obammie's terrorist pals? Ayers said himself a year ago that he was sorry that he "didn't do enough [bombing]!"

Now I think we are getting a glimpse as to how Hitler was able to deceive the German people and come to power!

"OBAM-UH .. OBAM-UH .. OBAM-UH .."

Posted by: DJ16 | October 6, 2008 1:07 PM

Sidda...Why would Michelle Obama want to serve a country she's never been proud of?

Posted by: jwilder_gop | October 6, 2008 1:07 PM

Lair, Lair, Ms. Pailin is desperately trying to impress us with her personallity and her constant lies; but nobody asked her about her connections with the oil industry. Are we blind?

Posted by: oscarpaezcastro | October 6, 2008 1:07 PM

Palin! showing your real class!!!

Posted by: lamtep | October 6, 2008 1:07 PM

I am so disappointed in McCain. I am an independent and thought he would be a good possibility.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he selected Palin as his running mate. It took me about a week to decide against McCain BECAUSE OF PALIN. She has destroyed his chances of becoming president in my opinion.
He in turn has become nasty and angry.
I question his judgement in choosing her. If this is his VP choice who is going to be in his cabinet? It can only get worse from here on in.
So, quit with the nasty campaigning. You have lost me but there may be others still on the fence.

Posted by: susan26 | October 6, 2008 1:06 PM

I have to laugh at comments from Republicans thinking Democrats are scared of Palin. I highly doubt anyone is scared. They're probably just wondering (as many independents like me are) why John McCain would put his campaign over country first and choose a running mate like Palin?

He met her what? once or twice? It takes a far longer interview process to get a decent job than the process she went through for VP!

Posted by: lightgrw | October 6, 2008 1:06 PM

OH, and how could I forget Mccain's best bud Charles Keating, how much that cost the US, plus the criminal origins of Cindy's family fortune. Look it up... facts are readily available.

Posted by: washpost31 | October 6, 2008 1:06 PM

re post - this needs to get out.

Barack Obama & Raila Odinga - Another Terrorist Connection

This is the video you wouldn't want your children to see.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ&feature=related

Posted by: Octo44 | October 6, 2008 1:05 PM

Oh really? How many people did the AIP kill? Seems to me AYERS is responsible for the deaths of two people thanks to his bombings. Trump, you say?

NOBAMA - guilty by association

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:05 PM

"I am just so fearful that this is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America, as the greatest force for good in the world. I'm afraid this is someone who sees America..."

sounds like a platform of fear to me

Posted by: brehove | October 6, 2008 1:05 PM

Can we please move away from the rather rabid attacks on both sides and deal with the real issue which is a financial meltdown. If McCain or Obama was serious about the bail out bill they would have not signed on until every piece of pork was removed. Also Obama says that 95% will receive a tax check of $500 to $1,000, well actually over 50% of those people don't pay any income taxes at all, so if you are asking me as a taxpayer to send someone else who doesn't pay income tax either $500 or $1,000 family, at least be honest enough to explain this to us. Also what good is a tax check if you don't have a job. Where is Obama's program for job creation, if he is intent on raising capital gains taxes and everyone earning over $250K, that would mean hundreds of thousands of small businesses, I guarantee they won't be hiring. Under an Obama/Biden administration the new hires would come from the government, so less and less private sector workers paying taxes, that's a recipe for rampant socialism, which is pretty much Obama's philosophy, less personal freedoms, less choice, less independence and more government intervention and control of our lives.Wake up before it's too late, no way we can have a liberal controlled white house and congress.

Posted by: gosforth1 | October 6, 2008 1:05 PM

Wait a minute - wait,wait...do ya' actually know anyone who can swear ona stacka Bibles that they saw or were with this person callin' herself Governor Sarah Palin when Saturday Night Live was playin'?
Well, do ya'? Do ya'?
That she and Tina Fey might BE the same person is the only hope we have left if we're gonna' vote for her, you know?

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 6, 2008 1:05 PM

Rant and spew your hatred, so you can get it out of your system.

You screamed for the media to investigate. So several did, and found no truth to the slander. Because you didn't hear trash from them,you scream bias.

So spew and spew---it is obvious that you are mad about the "no news" today. Unfortunately for you, everyone else read the articles too, and see the slander for what it is. But rant on!!

ObAMA'S POLL NUMBERS ARE GOING UP. THIS IS ALL ACTUALLY HELPING HIM BY MAKING HIM LOOK PRESIDENTIAL AND MAKING PALIN/MCCAIN LOOK PATHETIC. Nice!!

mccain = hate
obama = hope

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 1:05 PM

Wonder if McCain dumped sarah and went with Tina Fey he would pick up more states. Tina's #'s on SNL are going thru the roof. Sarahs are falling off the roof.

Posted by: ccrowley | October 6, 2008 1:05 PM

McCain's buddies? For:

* Secretery of Defense - Charles Keating
* Financial Advisor - Phil "Economy Destroyer" Gramm
* Treasury - Phil can do this job, too!
* Spiritual Advisor - Pat Robertson
* Foreign Minister - David Duke
* Delegate to the UN: Anne Coultergist
* Sarah Palin - Entertainment Director ('cuz she's so gosh-darned entertainin'!)

Hey, I can randomly insert people in political Madlibs, too!

Posted by: neon_bunny | October 6, 2008 1:04 PM

Then we've got Mccain's buds: G. Gordon Liddy- felon; John Singlaub w/ Mccain in the racist, anti-semitic US Council for World Freedom; Phill Gramm - primarily responsible for todays economic crisis; and the Palin family connection to the Alaskan Independence Party which wants to secede from the USA. Unlike Obama, Mccain & Palin actually have connections to these people. Talk about your glass houses..

Posted by: washpost31 | October 6, 2008 1:04 PM

This woman...a person who is so ignorant that she does not even know when she is being snubbed by her own running mate has the audacity to spew out such hatred and lies. She is a disaster who is snowballing into the obscurity out of which she came each passing day. November 5, 2008 will be a great day!!! McCain-Palin will be history and a new dawn for all Americans will be on the horizon. While I am trying figure out how I am going to pay my mortgage, the McCain-Palin ticket just talks about a bunch of bull...it. I am ready to change the channel to Obama for the next eight years!!!

Posted by: vobiscum36 | October 6, 2008 1:04 PM

Someone needs to turn in the moron who said "kill him." It is obvious to whom he was referring.

Never ceases to amaze me that no matter how screwed up the neo-cons make this country, they all gather together every four years and stick together like pig sh.....t to once again, elect their leader. This time, however, it can only be accounted to the inherent lack of thinking on their own given the state of the union, and the persistent lack of reasoning. Instead, they guide themselves only through ideology rather than whats actually happening. Go ahead and support those tax cuts for people who make more than $250,000...its really worked for us....and make sure you send your children to Iraq to find those weapons of mass destruction. My son is already there....and he has'nt found them so far. In the mean time, while McCain serves as your figure head, we will see the complete disappearance of the middle class......ever read "The Tale of Two Cities." Never thought this would happen in America.

Posted by: althomas11 | October 6, 2008 1:04 PM

I laughed the day I heard Palin's speech at the RNC.

I laugh when I read Palin spending time on this.

***The election will be decided by the swing voter.***

You don't sell a car to a teenager on the case that it has better gas mileage. That's not a winning argument to most teens.

There are plenty who will buy what Palin is selling here. They're called faithful republicans.

Bush has decimated their numbers. Running up the score with Republicans won't win. It will only alienate the independents.

The good news for Republicans: in 4 years, she'll be back!

Posted by: SonOfHistoryTeacher | October 6, 2008 1:04 PM

Well, it is nearly 90 degress in Florida today... racist pig.

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:04 PM

DESPERATION - You Betcha!!! Palin*Qualyle 2012

Posted by: mgall23 | October 6, 2008 1:04 PM

MUCH MORE ATTENTION NEEDS TO BE PAID TO TODD PALIN'S MEMBERSHIP IN THE ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY! That affiliation trumps Obama's fleeting association with Ayers by a long shot.

Posted by: bio-teacher | October 6, 2008 1:04 PM

Palin's ridiculous attacks should be seen for what they really are, incitements to racism. The McCain campaign has been winking at racists from the beginning. It knows there are significant numbers of Americans who don't want to see a black man in the White House, and its actively courting those votes. Face it, if you were a McCain adviser and wanted your man to beat Obama you'd be stupid to ignore the racist vote. But it's a cynical strategy that won't work this time around. No one is turning any pages on the real issues in this campaign until we turn them!

Posted by: waxtadpole1 | October 6, 2008 1:03 PM

Palin, and her extremist supporters, should crawl back under the rocks from which they came. She demonstrates, through her reckless and destructive lies and distortions, just how hateful and disgusting another 4-8 years of McBush would be.

Posted by: mich123 | October 6, 2008 1:03 PM

Not a quarter rough enough.

Posted by: mvd78209 | October 6, 2008 1:03 PM

What idiots believe in this sort of rhetoric, Oh let me guess. People from Florida that associate McCain and bubble head Palin as the maverick played on tv by James Garner..I bet that guy meant what he said when he said kill em, what a shame that Palin is to stupid to authorize acts of terrorism by spreading false accusations about Obama. I think I said hello to an axe murderer once, and I had a picture of OJ Simpson on my wall, and had a poster of the Zig Zag guy. I guess that makes me a terrorist.
There is nothing more embarrassing than a disconnected ancient old "war hero" and a stupid babbling air head trying to take over a party that lied it's way through the last 8 years because they know they're in the minority.

Posted by: keithlb28 | October 6, 2008 1:03 PM

I am astonished at my Republican friends that continue to rally behind Palin even though the obvious is glaringly apparent. I cannot even keep a straight face when we discuss the debate and they suggest she did well. When pressed, they cannot really give me any reason to stay behind her. They sound like she does. Completely baffled, but undaunted. SPEAK TO ME. GIVE ME SOMETHING HERE. btw I was once a Republican.
I really don't think there is anything to worry about...Obama is going to smear them in the end...but MUST it be so jr. high? Sigh. I have even been calling people in Ohio for Obama. I am one Republican that has gone Democrat!!!!!
AND, I think Michelle Obama will serve her years as first lady with grace and style.
Obama in '08...thanks, Sarah, for handing it over.

Posted by: Sidda | October 6, 2008 1:03 PM

You know, if all you democraps weren't so scared of little Ms. Palin you wouldn't even be trying so hard here. Why don't you sick the nazi storm troopers (oops, I mean "truth squad") on her?

NOBAMA... no experience, no leadership, no future

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:03 PM

I'm glad she's talking about it. The mainstream media continues to give Obama's sketchy past a pass and refuses to investigate. If a republican had sat in a church with David Duke or someone of the like, he would be crushed by the mainstream press. If a republican had met with a domestic terrorist multiple times in his political and professional career he would be crushed by the press. The double-standard is absolutely astonishing. Be careful, it could be a trojan horse the mainstream media is ushing into the whitehouse.

Posted by: dcsackers2 | October 6, 2008 1:02 PM

Chickadee ..

A lot of thought obviously went into your post ( )

If you think that "95%" of the people who "get money from McCain for healthcare" will go out and spend it, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE 40% OF AMERICANS WHO PAY **ZERO** TAXES THAT OBAMMIE WANTS TO SEND "TAX CUTS" TO WILL DO WITH *THEIR* MONEY?!

Liberals .. so "open minded" their brains fell out!

Posted by: DJ16 | October 6, 2008 1:02 PM

Look how they have Sarah dressed in WHITE today! Like that is somehow going to make Sarah sweeter?

I cannot believe she is revving up crowds to call for MURDERING Obama!

She is truly, truly a VILE woman. No morals, no scruples, no sense of decency whatsoever. Sarah's parents should be ashamed of themselves for raising such a mean-spirited, racist shrew. If I were her children, I would run and hide.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 6, 2008 1:02 PM

What part of "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" is escaping this so called Christian? Shame on her. She knows this doesn't hold any water. It has been fact checked to death. She appears doomed to eternal damnation from remarks like these. For somebody who is swaying the religious right... maybe they need to take a look at the team who has never committed adultry, and isn't in the business of bearing false witness. To support these breaches of the 10 commandments is to support abominations to God.

Posted by: tom28 | October 6, 2008 1:02 PM

Posted by: skolniks | October 6, 2008 1:02 PM

This November we need to vote on the most important election in history....

And we must also think that when we vote against McCaint and peeeuuu Palin, against their lies and their war made from lies....

They hide behind not only the US Flag, but against our men and womes sacrificing their lives to fight a war made from them..Bush 2 and the Repunks....

On this Veterans Day, let us remember their commitment and service to our country.

Throughout the history of our nation, brave men and women have answered the call of duty to defend our democracy and preserve our freedom..

When peeeuuu Palin is to stupid even get the name correctly on who is commanding the troops in Afganistan 4 times .....

Its McKierkan not McClennan...what a dummy!

....he was in the civil war...peeeuu Palin...she is not for them she is only there to support the RNC/GOP and McCaint lies..

Each November our country comes together to remember veterans who served their nation and those who paid the ultimate price to preserve our country's freedom.

Every 4 years in Nvember we vote for those who are to protect and lead us...McCaint and peeeuuu Palin will do neither...

Without the brave efforts of all the Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines as well as their families, our country would not stand so boldly, shine so brightly and live so freely.

Many of the veterans who return home find they must wage a new war against the bureaucracy to receive their health care and benefits....an McCaint and peeeuuu Palin are against them..

We need better VA hospitals, funding of more benefits, education for veterans to get better jobs and pay, and more assistance when they finally come home!

Although veterans make up only 11 percent of the general adult population, they represent 25 percent of the homeless population.

These examples and countless others illustrate that promises have been broken. Any instance where a veteran receives less than the best healthcare and services this country is able to provide is not only shameful – it's wrong.

So many veterans depend on improved care, and we cannot afford to let them be treated as a number instead of the heroes they truly are.

McCaint is not a hero, peeeuuu Palin is more like a hero sandwich....full of baloney...

Americans when we vote lets not vote for ourselves but for our military, our economy, our families, our lives.......

Thanks but no thanks to more of the lies from McCain/Palin that are a bridge to bring America to Nowhere, Alaska...

Obama/Biden '08
Obama/Biden '12

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 6, 2008 1:01 PM

So Barry was eight... the bottom line is that AYERS said that he wishes the 9/11 terrorists had done more!!! Once a terrorist, ALWAYS a terrorist. NOBAMA makes lousy decisions on the people he cohorts with... REZKO, RAINES, AYERS... poor decision skills.

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 1:01 PM

GOP = Giants of Propaganda.
golly gee ms. sarah p. - it's only been a few weeks since 1st we met ye - and already you have worn out your welcome. America is sick at heart over the republican use of dirty tricks, lies, & misrepresentaion. in my state, Barack Obama enjoys a broad coalition of support that includes people of every race, religious, economic, & political background. we look forward to a new, moderate administration with a positive, constructive vision for America's future!

Posted by: lawrence2xl | October 6, 2008 1:00 PM

DEMOCRAT HAVARD LAW SCHOOL BARACK OBAMA, VS.GOP REPUBLICAN CRASH JET IN MUDVILLE....MCCAIN

OBAMA BIDEN 08!!!!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 6, 2008 1:00 PM

Palin's little diatribe against Obama is pathetic. She's the one with an African pastor laying hands on her, who she praises, and attends a church that is openly of the "end of days" cult. She's the one with the narrow little worldview that is confined to what she can see from her state, and she's the one that has little to no interest in anything that doesn't affect her or her personal interests.

These attacks are the flailing of a desperate campaign that falls further and further behind every day. Has anyone heard of any plan McCain is proposing? Anything? Or is it just more of the 'same old, same old' we've seen the last 8 years?

Go away, Sarah, back to your family in Alaska. We don't want you in the rest of the nation.

Posted by: Bendal | October 6, 2008 1:00 PM

There are many posts today on this blog that are lies and smears on Senator Obama. Some are religious and racist smears. These people have not educated themselves. Well informed, intelligent people know that these are lies and have been thrown out by the well-respected vetters, investigative journalists from top-tier journals and other media outlets, academics, and government officials and laymen.

It boggles the mind that these people are spreading lies and dirt. If they truely respected their candidate, they would represent him/her with arguments of substance and arguments over issues that scream out to be discussed. IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!! I don't know about you, but this is a little important to me and my 401K right now.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 6, 2008 1:00 PM

Palin is going to be embarrassed one day, to realize that she damaged her political future, by stooping this low, slinging mud over nothing, when she is literally sleeping with the enemy, in her husband Todd's membership in a secessionist organization. She as may well be president of that group and try to get Alaska to leave the U.S. All her supporters can move to Alaska too, since they can't get enough of her.

Sure, she can get the craziest members of her base worked up with absurdly overblown stories, because they are not newspaper readers anyway, but unlike the last two elections, where the GOP made abortion and gay marriage their BIG issues, now headed to a DEPRESSION and widespread unemployment, with two wars going, there's bigger fish to fry and McPalin are clueless at how to do anything but spread fear and hate. No wonder their polls are dropping like a rock! People are starting to think.

Posted by: MrGrug | October 6, 2008 1:00 PM

NotBubba...Who's uneducated. That guy that yelled kill him is stupid, but so are you. The media has left Obama free and clear, they haven't investigated him at all. McCain/Palin are left to put this stuff out because the mainstream media will not even report it as a possibility! And you buy it without question! That's stupid! Tell me what plan has Obama got? How can anyone in their right mind vote for a guy that says: a baby, whose mother tried to abort them, and is sucked out of the womb (thought to be dead) alive, does not have any rights to medical protection and is a burden to the mother's decision to have the abortion in the first place (I'm paraphrasing, but that's his statement). That guy is a psyco, I don't care how you view the abortion issue!

Posted by: jwilder_gop | October 6, 2008 12:59 PM

Pro36 proves our theory. You refer to "liberal retards, Obama is a black man...the muslim communist"

You are a racist, you are a liar, it's amazing you can type, you knuckle-dragging redneck."

Posted by: tdub55 | October 6, 2008 12:59 PM

McCain wants to make sure America forgets about GWBush and his infamous war in Irac as well as GWBush's global policy shameful failure.
But nothing is about to go away.
Looking at what s going on in the financial market it is actually a good reminder of the contrary.
It is now the right time for the American people to make sure the legacy of GWBush does not continue.It is the right time to make sure anyone politically related to GWBush like John McCain or Sarah Palin should be definitely eliminated from the political arena forever.....

Posted by: gsboy | October 6, 2008 12:59 PM

YAY!! Barry Soetoro's winning in the polls! Yay for us! Yay team! Barry, Barry, he's our man, if he can't do it we won't be surprised!

C ome
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Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 12:59 PM

abhfromiowa posts "We need to remember the President of the United States is the Judicial branch and does not create fiscal policy"

The President and the Vice-President (as Joe Biden had to point out to Sarah Palin) are part of the EXECUTIVE branch, not the Judicial branch as you have claimed. Perhaps you and Sarah Palin both need to re-read your 5th-grade Social Studies textbooks.

Posted by: Jazzgasm

Actually, if you bothered to get your facts straight, you would know that the position of Vice President is part of the Legislative Branch (That's where he's paid from as well). This is due to his being the President Pro-Tem of the Senate. Maybe YOU need to re-read your Social Studies books.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 12:58 PM

Since she brought it up, let's talk about "unrepentent terrorists":

Barack Obama has denounced Ayers’ past activities (which, of course, occurred when Barrack was EIGHT (8) yrs. old), and has had no association with Ayers that I can find in the past five years.

By contrast, McCain’s campaign EMBRACED Oliver North’s endorsement of McCain and proudly sent it out to reporters. To its credit, the Washington Post blog asked the McCain campaign a fundamental question:

"Is McCain pleased to receive North's endorsement, given the fact that the failed GOP senatorial candidate was CONVICTED in 1989 of shredding documents, accepting an illegal gratuity and aiding and abetting in the obstruction of Congress?"

McCain’s campaign refused to answer.

As then, I now wonder, if Barack Obama is asked questions about his DISTANT links with alleged unrepentant "terrorist" Bill Ayers, why isn’t McCain being asked about his embrace of an ACTUAL "unrepentant terrorist" like Oliver North?

Unlike the Bill Ayers question, the issue of Oliver North is highly relevant to important policies. Will John McCain do anything similar to Iran-Contra in his administration? Does he believe that the Executive branch is authorized to commit crimes with impunity after Congress has prohibited them? Would he pardon the criminals as Ronald Reagan did?

In my mind, Bill Ayers falls into roughly the same category as Oliver North: Someone who committed crimes but never served time due to a technicality.

THERE IS AN IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE.

Ayers never actually killed, or even tried to kill, anyone. North, by contrast, is responsible for helping to illegally funnel arms to our enemies in Iran and using the proceeds to provide money and weapons to support the terrorist actions of the Contras in Nicaragua.

Oliver L. North was indicted March 16, 1988, on 16 felony counts. After standing trial on 12, North was convicted May 4, 1989 of three charges: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents. He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines and 1,200 hours community service.

I know, us Democrats rely too much on facts. But had we known the TRUE facts about Iraq and the claims of Weapons of Mass Destructions. The facts that THIS republican administration knew and kept from the American People, there would be thousand's of young men and women in the U.S. Armed Forces still alive today.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 6, 2008 12:58 PM

Barack Obama & Raila Odinga - Another Terrorist Connection

This is the video you wouldn't want your children to see.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ&feature=related

Posted by: Octo44 | October 6, 2008 12:58 PM

Who read the NYT to her?

Posted by: AbolhassanBaniSadr | October 6, 2008 12:58 PM

Talk about being to the left of Lenin. Obama wants to redistribute wealth. Papers like the Post, the Philadelphia Inquirer, NY Times, etc., always support the liberal candidate. I don't blame America for everything. And I support McCain/Palin as the only logical choice to keep America strong and the only choice to fight Islamic fanatics whose goal is to eradicate anyone not Moslem. Wake up people!!

Posted by: mas215 | October 6, 2008 12:58 PM

Bible Spice, First Dude, the pregnant high schooler and the rest of her brood need to head back to Alaska. I can't take another four years of incompetence, criminality, and lies.

Posted by: neon_bunny | October 6, 2008 12:58 PM

This tactic has not worked in the past, and will fail even more miserably now. At least Palin is feeding Tina Fey more and more each day.

Obama: "Dow is down below 10K! We must fix this!:

McPalin: "Obama met a bad guy at 8 years old!"

Obama: "We need to fix healthcare"

McPalin: "Obama talked to domestic terrorist! Meanwhile, us 'mavericks' voted with the worst terrorist in history 90% of the time!"

The GOP strategy is insulting the American people by ignoring the issues an attempting to re-direct the focus to the negative again. It will not work this time.

Posted by: beaversrus | October 6, 2008 12:57 PM

As "nclwtk" so eloquently stated on October 6, at 12:02PM,

"Boooooo..... Palin"


(Side note: It has been discovered that Todd Palin's actual name was "PALING"!

Todd Paling, out of his true love and never ending dedication to his beautiful wife, agreed to a formal name change when, after several years of marriage, they realized she would never learn to pronounce the final "g".

Hence: Palin.

Isn't that a cute story? You BETCHA! wink wink.

Posted by: evasdaddy | October 6, 2008 12:57 PM

It sounds more like a rally of hatred with a few thousand bloody-minded bottom feeders of the society. Sarah, the Hitler re-incarnation in skirt with lipstick must have felt right at home.

Posted by: thisworld | October 6, 2008 12:57 PM

You've got to love the pro-Obammie posts here ..

Absolutely hilarious. Talking about Obamalamadingdong's friends and associates .. who are just that .. is "racist" and "slander." The only racists are Obammie and his mindless followers. This is the guy who traveled to Kenya at U.S. taxpayer expense to campaign for the socialist Raila Odinga who lost the election and then started post-election violence and genocide! You people had better WAKE UP QUICK and learn about your EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CANDIDATE!

Posted by: DJ16 | October 6, 2008 12:57 PM

What's wrong with this picture? Palin reading The New York Times! That's truly hysterical.. then again there are pictures.


Cartoons and the Hillary Clinton cloths line is on sale at Macys.

Posted by: ccrowley | October 6, 2008 12:56 PM

Us liberals are full of HOPE. And liberal seems to mean smart, thoughtful and kind nowadays, so we wear it proudly.

After almost a decade of hate and bigotry and fear and lies under Bush, we are goign to make some changes. And you, GOP, will probably like them. Better healthcare, stronger economy, less war, more pride in our country.....if any of that bothers you, too bad.

We are the people of HOPE, not HATE.
Obama is HOPE, mccain is HATE.

And the extreme GOP haters are not taking that away from us.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 12:56 PM

Too bad that the 'thousands' of cult members that would listen to a local terrorists like Palin are so misguided, immature and greedy that they acdtually believe the lies that the liar says she is going to lie about.

Mccain/Palin are toast.

Posted by: skolniks | October 6, 2008 12:56 PM

OSAMA HUSSEIN OBAMA, YOU ARE A TRULY PATHETIC CREATURE!

Posted by: pro36 | October 6, 2008 12:56 PM

I can't believe I used to respect John McCain. Neither he nor his running mate seems interested in debating ideas or policy, so they turn to hate-mongering, lies and the incitement of violence. Under these two the GOP is looking more like the KKK everyday.

Posted by: breukelen | October 6, 2008 12:56 PM

McCain and Palin plan to fix the healthcare crisis by giving everybody some money so they can "buy their own health insurance". Sure. That is totally against human nature! If Uncle Sam sends folks money, 95% of them will run out and buy a big-screen TV or the latest shiny techie gadget, not health insurance. Even the smarter ones will use the money to pay off credit card debts, buy groceries or gas, or just to live on. Be realistic. If this is how the Republicans plan to get health insurance for everybody, we'd be lucky if even 5% of the folks actually used the money for its intended purpose.

Posted by: chickadee2 | October 6, 2008 12:55 PM

Typically a president will choose the people that they believe will best work with their thought process. So with that in mind, the following people come to mind as close associates of NOBAMA...

* Secretery of Defense - William Ayers
* Financial Advisor - Franklin Raines
* Treasury - Barney Frank
* Spiritual Advisor - Rev. Jeremiah Wright
* Foreign Minister - Raila Odinga
* Delegate to the UN: Louis Farrakhan
* Barbara Srteisand - Entertainment Comm.

Any other suggestions?

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 12:55 PM

Mr. McCain and Mrs. Palin are losing the election. These losers are taking the lowest of the low roads to avoid the issues that are critical to you and me, the economy and healthcare. As their campaign managers state, "we are changing the conversation from the economy to Senator Obama's character". McCain and Palin use their culture of lies, misrepresentation and dirty tricks. I call this the spin, spit, and spoil. The lies Mrs. Palin stated over the last few days have been refuted as lies by all of the top tier journalists and FactCheck.com as well as Senator Obama himself. Senator Obama has been vetted over 12 yrs in public life and especially over the last 2 yrs running for the presidency. This is the Republican party's desperation. As all of you know this character flaw of lies was shown throughout the McCain campaign but it has become worse now.

Mr. McCain and Mrs. Palin are doing this because they have non-starter positions and no developed plan for the economy, healthcare, and energy independence. Their platform supports the same policies as the Bush/Cheney administration except for abortion and in the latter case, they are farther right.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 6, 2008 12:55 PM

To liberal retards:
Obama is a black man-the good thing
Obama is the muslim communist hangin with terrorists,dumb-not a good thing

Posted by: pro36 | October 6, 2008 12:55 PM

Hey abhfromiowa,
The presidency resides in the EXECUTIVE branch.
Before you made a retarded comment like you did, get your facts straight.

Posted by: swami747 | October 6, 2008 12:54 PM

Gov. Palin’s comment that Sen. Obama is “palling around with terrorists” is the verbal equivalent of the July 21st cover of The New Yorker magazine. Michelle with an Afro and an AK 47 with Barack wearing a turban-type thing. Scary how low political slander can go. Shame on the GOP. The country should demand a public apology from Gov. Palin.

Posted by: RT66Republican | October 6, 2008 12:54 PM

SARAH PALIN, YOU ARE A TRULY PATHETIC CREATURE!

Posted by: thisworld | October 6, 2008 12:54 PM

I can't believe that people are still falling for the McCain/Palin scare/shock tactics.McCains tried them all this campaign. Heck if she doesn't get this thing turned around in McCains favor in a couple weeks I can see that old guy dropping her to try out someone else. They have nothing else to bring to the table but garbage. And I can't believe that the American people aren't smart enough to see through it all.
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: deanne1 | October 6, 2008 12:54 PM

As to those posters who support the kind of campaigning that Sarah Palin is so good at; vicious, slandering, and lying, perhaps Sarah Palin should not bring up Rev. Wright. She is heavily involved and vested in her own pastor who has exorcised her in front of her congregation. We all know that she is on a mission from God and that God wants her to win and maybe even be the first female President of the USA (please God, no). She is "preaching to the choir" at her rallies. I question, however, when her campaigning style elicits responses of "let's kill him". She is scary. Independents, please take note. Do not vote for the McCain-Palin ticket. They are unAmerican.

Posted by: opal1

Name me a lie that she has said. Name 1? At the V.P. debate, I counted 16 flat out lies that Senator Biden told. What's more, in every reference of the Constitution that he made, he was wrong. And that is something Senator Biden is supposed to be good at.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 12:54 PM

Yeah, Rummy met with Saddam Hussein, shook his hand as an adult head of state. No conservative outrage or calls to "kill him" from the neo-gnatzi-cons when he was picked to be Sec'y of defense. Odd that?

Posted by: jbolder | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

Sarah is MARRIED to a secessionist (for those GOPers who don't know what that is: it's someone would wants to get their State to leave the Union)By definition, you CANNOT get more unpatriotic that!..Sarah actually spoke at an earlier convention of the AIP (Alaskan Independence Party)-- I think we need to find about more about this....How does she feel about this? tell us Sarah...I can live with her some of her other out of the mainstream views....but she's not just "palling around" with this person years and years ago--- she is currently MARRIED to this "dude"...Those who live in Alaska have called Todd Palin the "shadow governor" What kind of assurance do we have that this tandem doesn't want their State to leave this great Union?....the fact that he changed to a Republican recently?....John McCain has absolutely no regard for this Country otherwise he might have put some thought into his selection for VP...instead he put his Campaign First. Everyday it becomes more and more apparent that a McCain presidency would not be the SAME as the Bush presidency. It would be worse. Much much worse. God Bless America!

Posted by: pax_vobiscum2002 | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

Lots of comments here. Wonder if anyone will bother briefing Governor Palin on the Washington Post's articles.

It is miraculous that suddenly our fair Governor can recall something that she has read. It is also convenient that she would cite the "liberal mainstream media" as a way to malign Senator Obama's rep. I would hope that she might also pick up the recent Rolling Stone to read an article that talks about Senator McCain's history as a maverick.

The low road is a narrow one.

Posted by: cheryllyne | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

Going rough ain't gonna work, John. You lost me when you insulted my intelligence with the Palin selection.

Posted by: JohnChase | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

Who is Palin think she is kidding? The information was in the NYT but she did not read it there. This woman has too little general information to be reading the New York Times.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

What's wrong with this picture? Palin reading The New York Times! That's truly hysterical.. then again there are pictures.

Posted by: ackermanphotography | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

I just got off the phone with Joe Six-pack. He doesn't like Sarah Palin either.

Posted by: Ritalisa | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

Isn't Mrs. Pahlin also a domestic terrorist. She was one of the leaders wanting to separate Alaska from the United States and become its own country. So she could be the ruler. What about john mcain being part of the New World Order which was supported by communism.

Pahlin assumes america is stupid, I am offended to be called Joe Six pack, thats like calling us a bunch stupid americans that don't know better. Soccer moms, what about all the people without kids.

How about spending 30 minutes talking about what your going to do for us and less about what so an so did 20 years ago.

If the only thing during a depression and financial ruin close to the great depression is Obama and ayers. Then lady you ain't got jack to stand on! Your 15 minutes is up and the the Game is over.

So maybe you two mavericks are so caught up in your B.S. that you don't know which way is up.

Posted by: ccrowley | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

I can see the sun from my house.

Does that make me an astrophysicist?

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

We are beginning to see the TRUE "base" of the Repbublican Party. Hate mongerers, racists, rich elites and clueless rednecks. Leave it to Palin to fuel the fire of intolerance, lies and idiocy. She is the perfect poster child of hate. Here in Portland at a Republican debate watching party, when Joe Biden temporarily lost composure when talking about losing his wife and child, the Republican crowd hooted and screamed derisively. I think that says is ALL about "compassionate conservatism". These people HAVE no feelings. Their party is one of sociopath overtones. They love their money, they hate the rest of the world.

Posted by: tdub55 | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

abhfromiowa posts "We need to remember the President of the United States is the Judicial branch and does not create fiscal policy"

The President and the Vice-President (as Joe Biden had to point out to Sarah Palin) are part of the EXECUTIVE branch, not the Judicial branch as you have claimed. Perhaps you and Sarah Palin both need to re-read your 5th-grade Social Studies textbooks.

Posted by: Jazzgasm | October 6, 2008 12:53 PM

It's the economy stupid, Sarah.
Yes, we've seen the stories about Rev. Wright and Tony Rezko. Unsettling, yes. But most people don't know about Charles Keating, Troopergate, Alaska gov't. emails not released because of clamims of executive privilege -- but more will learn of these things soon. The next thirty days are going to be something.

Posted by: disillusioned | October 6, 2008 12:52 PM

Re: Palin...

If brains were gasoline she wouldn't be able to power a piss ant's go kart around the inside of a donut.

What a miserable, pathetic moron. A moron with lipstick is still a moron. She will never be VP and McCain can go back to Sedona and count his money.

Posted by: AbolhassanBaniSadr | October 6, 2008 12:52 PM

@pro36...you state "Yeah you liberals full of sh.t.I mean it"

HAHAHa

Good comeback....We're still waiting on those "facts" of yours. Are you gonna get back to us like Palin NEVER did for Couric?


LOL...idiot...pathetic.

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:52 PM

A new Poll says, McCain/Palin is not the best GOP ticket, Huckabee/Palin would be the most desirable republican ticket See Poll results at
http://www.mccanes.com/watchdebatevp.html

Posted by: pastor123 | October 6, 2008 12:52 PM

Thank you Govenor Palin for bringing up important issues. Associations are important and it seems Senator Obama is surrounded by questionable characters. His character is in question with many because of his associations. He has been untruthful since the beginning. He admittedly told Rev. Wright that he was a bit rough and excused him from his presidential announcement. In other words, I will deceive you by not including him. It's a serious issue. I am very happy it is being exposed.

Posted by: cbl0213 | October 6, 2008 12:51 PM

It is sad that Americans anywhere respond to this low-brow stuff. If this represents McCain campaign then we do not need him as head-of-state.

Posted by: kfhoz | October 6, 2008 12:51 PM

I know all about New York because today I learned how to spell it.

I know all about Wall street, because I have seen wall street journal.

Posted by: Dave27 | October 6, 2008 12:51 PM

At least read the WHOLE New York Times article before you pass judgment:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&sq=obama,%20ayers&st=cse&scp=1

And, John McCain should not throw stones:

www.keatingeconomics.com

www.johnmccainrecord.com

Posted by: julie15 | October 6, 2008 12:51 PM

Look folks, this is no surprise. Any candidate down in the polls is going to go negative. McCain like to think he's not like other candidates, but he is simply falling lock step into the patterns of typical politicians. The only question this time is whether everyone flies to the flame or sees it for what it is.

Does anyone really think that Obama or McCain have not been vetted on these association of theirs over the years? There's no fire here. Stay focussed on the important things and let the children play...

Posted by: LincolnX | October 6, 2008 12:51 PM

CHA-CHING for CHANGE!

Now is the time to give my support towards the first 100 days of the Obama administration's health care plan by making donations. I am sooooooo tired of tabloids getting credibility/resources at the expense of what's true and great in our society's potential.

Posted by: iamericanperson | October 6, 2008 12:51 PM

One should have expected no less from a desperate old man and a power hungry, winking, incoherent boob. Their campaign is down the tubes and they have no solutions, so all they know how to do is sling mud. It is actually comical to watch. I have to surmise that after his own campaign failed, Rudy Giuliani is now managing McCain's. The result is the same. They are both losers.

Palin is Failin'.

Posted by: MadMax24 | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

@jwilder_gop ...thanks for even MORE lies.

Care to bak up any of those claim you make with a single citation or reference.

I didn't think so. Another Scumbag_GOP_liar.

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

GO Barack Hussein Obama!

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

Why are we surprised by the audience's reactions? Who else -- other than the stooges who were especially selected -- would waste their time to listen to the fraud Palin? Don't forget that it is the undecideds and former Republicans who will help to elect the next president, not the people in this biased audience. Take a look at the trends thus far. You will note that the winner won't be "McMaverick McCain."

Posted by: Formerrepublican | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

I do find it interesting that the author decided to include the quote screamed from the crowd "kill him".

A statement like that transforms the gathering from a rally to klan meeting.

Posted by: chrislebeau | October 6, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

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Yeah you liberals full of sh.t.I mean it

Posted by: pro36 | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

NOBAMA is in bed with known felons and terrorists... what a great leader he will make. Hail-to-the-Chief will be replaced with gangsta-rap. I hear there's a shortage of purple material also, as the NOBAMA's are planning a complete redecoration of the white house.

NOBAMA... CHANGE is coming... but no dollars.

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

Correct me if i am wrong, but is there not footage on Youtube of Palin being healed by an African witch doctor? Yes? No? So, why is that 'Yenta' throwing stones at glass houses. Palin is quickly bring down McCain's campaign. I think she's campaigning for 2012 or 2016. By then her vocabulary would of expanded.

Posted by: freeworld23 | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

Why are we all not making sure our own finances are in order, or forming plans to get them in order, for the coming recessionary period ahead of us? Sarah Palins screeds to the true believers who come to listen to her are not convincing those of us who will behave rationally and vote for the better candidates in this election. Hint, their initials are JB and BHO!! So, go BHO and JB to all of you McPalin enthusiasts. Make your peace with at least eight years of enlightened government coming your way via a DEMOCRATIC administration.

Posted by: rderrera126 | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

Can someone just shut this stupid dame up already? I am sitting here watching all of my 401K just dwindle away and this is what she is talking about. Why in the hell did John McCain pick this dimwit for his running mate anyway? Our great country has sunk to an all time low. I want someone to tell me how they are going to fix all that is wrong with our country. I am starting to see the greatest country in the world fall apart at the core and we have no one to fix it.

Posted by: plwebb | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

So, Sara "sorry" Palin, you may be able to weasel your way into governorship in Alaska, but you can't fool everyone. You abuse power, you are a lobbyists dream, you are the best friend of oil companies and their rich execs.

You are not for the common people, you use scare tactics just like the rest of the republicans for personal gain. I am 100% sure you will be a step worse than Bush.

So... THANKS FOR THE COMEDIES, BUT NO THANKS, WE DON'T WANT YOUR CHANGE TO NOWHERE.

Posted by: Dave27 | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

There you go again Sarah talking about the past, the distant past. Who cares but wingnuts like yourself?

Posted by: Derek5 | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

Those are very important issues, particularly health care and the economy For me is even more important the general direction for this country cause its all connected.Obama is the muslim communist with communist agenda for this great country.Do we need the muslim communist in our WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 6, 2008 12:48 PM

I do find it interesting that the author decided to include the quote screamed from the crowd "kill him".

A statement like that transforms the gathering from a rally to klan meeting.

Posted by: chrislebeau | October 6, 2008 12:48 PM

Dear leeh11281 et al.

You have the right to believe in the hatred that the McCain camp is spewing. This is a smear by association tactic because all of you Republicans have NO issues you can run on.

This is going to be character assassination attempt after attempt as you try to turn people off by making them afraid.

Unless you can give one issue about the Economy and you are going to fix it that is real, you lose.

This is all old news and it won't work. It is too obvious and it didn't work for Hillary. It won't for you.

We have all heard this before and even Rove says this isn't likely to work.

Good bye you desperate Republicans.

Posted by: mbshults | October 6, 2008 12:48 PM

@bobojake ..

Everything you just said was a lie...are you proud of yourself for posting easilty debunked nonsense?


Stupid late comers.

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:48 PM

The real news here is that Ms. Palin finally read a newspaper.

Posted by: ScoutieDog | October 6, 2008 12:48 PM

McCain and Falin are desperate. People can see that he's an old stubborn mule, not a maverick. Hey, look up the definition of "maverick" while you're at it. An ornery, clueless member of the herd.

If you haven't met an overly (unrealistically) self-confident blow-hard like Falin on your local PTA or school board yet, then you just haven't lived enough, I guess. She is a joke. Let me spell that for you: J-O-K-E. She's like Bush, but without the smarts and curiosity of the world (yes, that's sarcasm).

Honestly, would you let these two run your town or city? Then why this great nation?

Obama/Biden offer a new start and we're going to need one. Whoever becomes President will inherit nothing but trouble from Bush.

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | October 6, 2008 12:48 PM

Two lying corrupt politicians trying to pin an association that revolved around both serving on charitable boards. Let's see, Palin being investigated for misuse of power, she lies about everything from plane sale to bridge to nowhere, and McCain, adviser taking money from Fannie & Freddie until a couple of months ago, cheated on wife when she was in hospital from car accident, economic adviser put loophole & bill forward that lead to this deregulation & mess. Yea, I believe them. How about McCain cooperating with captors while in prison? We call that TREASON!

Posted by: crossroadsnow | October 6, 2008 12:47 PM

Now that the gloves are off, let us have a full investigation into the following: Palin's anti-american Alaska Independence Party affiliations, an active VP nominee who refuses to comply with a legal subpoena re Troopergate, Palin's neglecting to post her per diems to her tax returns, why trips that included her children and husband were paid for by the State of Alaska but not reported on her tax returns, why she sought separate email accounts to conduct state business and cc'd her husband (a citizen, not state employee), why she coopts investigations and stonewalls regarding her email records that pertain to the troopergate investigation, and on and on and on... Then we can turn to invetigation into John Bush's gambling habits and failure to place his winnings/losses on his tax returns, why his wife refuses to release her tax returns, his campaign ties to Phil Gramm and Gramm's complicity in the current economic meltdown, why John Bush refuses to release complete health records, and on and on and on... You all want to get tough, then let's get tough!

Posted by: jbartlett1 | October 6, 2008 12:47 PM

REALLY Lets all think about it? The election is less than a month away? Do we really want to hear about AYERS, WRIGHT AND THE KEATING FIVE? NO, candidate, especially PALIN this morning talked about why my retirement and 401K is disappearing- AND FAST!

Posted by: latinovoter | October 6, 2008 12:47 PM

Whoa. She's not only stretching the truth, she's racially tinging her negativity. Why anyone with a brain, a thought of their own would even consider this acceptable is beyond me. She's pathetic.

Posted by: mommy11 | October 6, 2008 12:47 PM

People keep posting McCain/Palin have gone negative, and to look at Obama's plans. What plans? He wants to give 95% of the "workers" a tax break? A large portion of those people don't pay any taxes, what ever they may pay during the year, they get every bit of it back! Under Obama's plan, they would get even more back! I think if you're a citizen of this country, you should pay (JUST A LITTLE) in taxes. And by the way I'm not some fat cat on Wall Street. This whole re-distribution of wealth idea is the real old politics, Barack Obama doesn't want change, this stuff has been around since Carl Marx. That's the real failure of our economy, that's where Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac came from.

Posted by: jwilder_gop | October 6, 2008 12:47 PM

McCain also was buddies with the Mafia crime boss Joe "Bananas" Bonanno. Bonanno was linked to plenty of murders.... in fact he was one of the models for the movie character "The Godfather".

Bonanno relocated to Tucson Arizona, and invited McCain to his 90th birthday bash in 1995.

McCain didn't attend, but did send in his regards to the old gangster.

What exactly does an Arizona politican have to DO to get invited to a big-time Mafia birthday party, I might ask?

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 6, 2008 12:46 PM

thank you Sarah for taking on obama and his marxist policies. obama is directly involved in the economic losses that have occurred in the last 2 weeks as a result of his actions the last 10 years. His answer I'll call in, in response to this crisis. that like voting present 90% of the time in Illinois. obama we don't want nor need your marxist cronies running this great nation. obama don't ever apoligize for America again. you can go live in kenya with your brother. thank a democrat in NOV VOTE NO NO obama.

Posted by: bobojake | October 6, 2008 12:46 PM

Well, after having read this, I'll give Obama another $100 contribution.

Oh, by the way RNC, I'm a US citizen, just in case you're worried about where he's getting all that money. From people like me, the little guy. We're taking this country back.

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 6, 2008 12:46 PM

Palin, stop going around boasting that you are now reading the New York Times, for god's sake. My 16 year old has been reading the paper since he turned 14. You really are a joke.

Posted by: thisworld | October 6, 2008 12:46 PM

How come they be BOOing my Barry Soetoro???

Posted by: MichelleObama | October 6, 2008 12:46 PM

@pro36 ...oh really? Then you can give us the court case number and documented charges againt Obama then right?

I didn't think so, you scumbag liar.

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:45 PM

That idiot in the audience that shouted "Kill Him" is putting himself up for possible arrest. So typical of the mindless, ill-educated bigots that now comprise the dwindling McCain/Palin support. Hope the Secret Service is taking notice.

Posted by: NotBubba | October 6, 2008 12:45 PM

Hey SARAH--wake up and read more newspapers! Hillary already played the Rev Wright and Ayers card doggonne it! And a heckuva lot of us were concerned! But, word has it that you, Ms Palin, the moosehunter with a wicked slap shot, are under investigation and the subject of an abuse of power trial? Is that true? I'm gonna keep my eye on you..gosh darnit. And if the irishman O'Bama is elected, I hope the Democrats don't storm Alaska and kick all you evangelical back woods loons out.

Posted by: indytucker | October 6, 2008 12:45 PM

Palin and McCain are showing their real faces.They are both racially motivated and have finally induced an accent of hate in their campaign.
I am glad they did because Obama until today have refrained from going that direction.
Let me say this,McCain and Palin the infamous tandem can rest assure things are about to change for them in the wrong direstion as the debate goes on...
Soon booing Obama will the least of their problems.
Those 2 have forgotten the old saying,what goes around comes around....

Posted by: gsboy | October 6, 2008 12:45 PM

Sometimes when a pitbull goes mad...you have no choice but to put it to sleep. After November 4th, Sarah Palin goes back to Alaska and my guess is that she does not get re-elected. After he is elected, Obama should fundraise up in Alaska to humiliate this woman should be serving cookies at a PTA Meeting, not running to be a heart beat away from the Presidency.

Posted by: LondonInNY | October 6, 2008 12:45 PM

I'm gonna ignore this and talk about how my pig stubbed its toe when coming out the bathroom after putting on lipstick.

I mean, gosh, how fewer toes must a pig have to have in order to avoid stubbing it. Can't a pig ever get a break. Oink, oink.

What???? You have a question about foreign relations????

Hmm... I'm gonna ignore that too and talk about how my kitty cat had fun with her tail in the a/c fan. My kitty thought it was... really... some... good, old fashioned, this great country that I love very much, and we have lot of oil in alaska, and we can see Russia from one of our island. I think that is important. Because, if Putin rears his head, where is that, it's Alaska.

Posted by: Dave27 | October 6, 2008 12:45 PM

My 401(K) is down 30% this year and this airhead thinks I care about what some hippie did when Obama was 8 years old.

Talk about "out of touch".

Posted by: hoos3014 | October 6, 2008 12:44 PM

What an insult to the American people. Don't we deserve better than slime and smear? We need accurate, thoughtful information from those seeking our votes. This is sick, sick, sick. Do you want McCain swiftboated by asking people to look up "Songbird McCain, Forrestal Fire McCain, Keating Five McCain, Vietnam Veterans Against McCain?" NO! We want an honorable campaign focused on the things that matter to us.

Posted by: Saxxon_Domela | October 6, 2008 12:44 PM

Sorry, John.

Not that you or your people will ever read this... but you lost me, man.

I can appreciate that you would like to side step the current economic crisis.

Good luck with that. =)

I find your attempt to refocus the attention of America away from the economy by "taking off the gloves" to be an insult to the intelligence of the average citizen. You need new political advisers, sir.

Then again... probably a little late for that.


You lost me when you said you'd veto any pork barrel, "me first, country second" legislation that crossed your desk (as president), remember? that we would know their names and you would make them famous?

I almost believed you... until last week.

Posted by: DebtFree123 | October 6, 2008 12:44 PM

i think that he knows shes mucking him up... but he cant get rid of her..... he'd look like the fool he is... if he did that.... after only one meeting with that woman.... he picked her.... he hasnt got the sense of a toad.....

Posted by: rnorth2 | October 6, 2008 12:44 PM

I am glad to see the "gloves" come off. Go Gov. Palin. Everytime I hear Obama talk, I hear what John McCain will and will not do. I have yet to understand exactly what he (Obama) will do. Fair is fair in war and politics. They have trashed John McCain and his record. He is experienced and intelligent to guide us toward self independency rather than government telling us what to do and what health care I can have. I want to have my own "choice". That is my right.

Posted by: wylenehayes | October 6, 2008 12:44 PM

Meanwhile, in real news, the DOW plummets below 10,000.

Obama discusses economic policies.

McCain focuses on the.....boogeyman?

America has had enough.

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:44 PM

Don't politicians realize how destructive this is to America? The Dow is down another 450 points, American jobs are at significant risk, and the McCain campaign wants to change the message to nonsense?

Posted by: amaikovich | October 6, 2008 12:43 PM

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.No wonder considering his Chicago mob connections.Do we need the criminal in our WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 6, 2008 12:43 PM

With all the important issues, particularly health care and the economy I want to remind readers that those issues will affect your future and that of your family ore than any of this talk about casual associates of Obama or McCain.

Both men are honorable but only one understands the problems of today.

A health care system that allows exclusion for preexisting conditions creates people who become impoverished by illness even though they have worked hard and paid their bills.

I have seen it as a physician. Good people who go bankrupt because of their health. We do not need these people in foreclosure, hurting our economy. We need them to have health insurance and only Obama even thinks of the problem. I am from McCain's generation but I have to say his thinking is from the last century.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 6, 2008 12:43 PM

Someone with Palin's miniscule stature making that kind of attack probably ends up helping Obama. She's not exactly the voice of authority, is she? Meanwhile, it provides an opening for the Dems to reacquaint voters with McCain's Keating 5 scandal - a scandal that has striking connections to what is currently happening with our banks.

Posted by: skrut003 | October 6, 2008 12:43 PM

Gee, looks like Palin's rearin' the head of abuse there, also!

Posted by: pennycentury | October 6, 2008 12:43 PM

We are guilty by the company we keep, or by association. Obama's friendship with Bill Ayers has been so underplayed by the media, that it broaches the most obvious bias and intent. If McCain had ties to Ayers the media would have asked to have him hanged by now. If Obama is truly a marxist, then he should be courageous enough to admit, but that would require honesty wouldn't it?

Posted by: lazycfarm | October 6, 2008 12:43 PM

So, Palin and McCain have nothing to offer Americans but hatred. Isn't this the way Hitler came into power?

Posted by: sharon13 | October 6, 2008 12:43 PM

Palin, you really are a pig and I am saying that in a cute kind of sense. You are a very very corrupt and dirty pig.

Posted by: thisworld | October 6, 2008 12:43 PM

Do any of the liberals on this comment board know anything about the Keating 5? That thing was beat to death many years ago with McCain walking away clean. Anybody that brings that up is rectal plucking desparately. disgusting.

Posted by: TL40 | October 6, 2008 12:42 PM

the town hall meeting will be here in nashville tomorrow... i sure wish i could go.... i have alot of questions that i'd love to ask mccain... and see if he answers them or dodges them

Posted by: rnorth2 | October 6, 2008 12:42 PM

John McCain needs to "put a leash on his pitbull" because she is crapping all over my country. Palin's rhetoric is not at all helpful to moving this country forward. Palin is a reckless fruitcake operating with fewer brain cells than a pitbull.

Posted by: LondonInNY | October 6, 2008 12:42 PM

And WaPo reporting on this sarcastic lying speechby Mooselini achieves what? Especially without denouncing this as lies. She is misquoting the NYTimes MSM morons! Wapo should stop covering this dribble! The MSM should grow a pair. This is a VP candidate who now refuses to be interviewed by the MSM - so the MSM now plays into her handbook by acting like love starved teenagers covering the nonsense she spews at campaign stops? How come no coverage on the Obama Campaign's video on the Keating 5? Liberal MSM bias indeed? Clear they are all run by Rethug corporate types.

Posted by: anothervoice2 | October 6, 2008 12:42 PM

McLIAR & FAILIN SHOULD CREATE A "WASTE

MANAGEMENT" COMPANY TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY

ARE VERY GOOD AT "RECYCYLING GARBAGE"

SLEEZE-CO INC. would be a great company name.

Posted by: Sarah_Failin | October 6, 2008 12:42 PM

I have never seen such insanity in my life! Sarah Palin is doing the devils work. I mean really! To think that any mother would set this example for her children. I'm appalled. This woman will surely burn in hell. I hope I get to watch. ;-)

Posted by: stellacampbell | October 6, 2008 12:42 PM

Palin and her pathetic attempt to smear the Obama/Biden ticket is just a glimpse at how she'd represent America on the world stage - a despicable laughing stock! She is an insult to women, an insult to politicians and an insult to our electoral process. McSame has really lost it if he thinks for one minute that any serious undecided voters would ever cast their votes for his ridiculous ticket. They pander, smear and spew garbage instead of talking policy. Can't wait for the Obama/Biden landslide that will send pistol packing Palin back to Alaska where she can face Troopergate and the IRS. McCain's pick of Palin was just the first sign of his desparation and total lack of judgment. Protect our Constitution! Get out the Vote - Obama/Biden!

Posted by: TruBlu1 | October 6, 2008 12:42 PM

Last month, 159,000 Americans jobs were lost and the Dow plunged 500+ today. It's no surprise that the top priority for a majority of voters is the economy.

But the McCain campaign doesn't share those concerns, admitting yesterday that "There's no question we want to change the subject here," and that they're "looking forward to turning the page on the financial crisis."

McCain has laid his cards on the table. And to everyone tired of the politics of past, this latest announcement is as disheartening as it is disturbing.

Posted by: JJames081 | October 6, 2008 12:41 PM

The GOP message: better run in fear!!! hate everyone!!! fear! hate!!! more hate!!!

what a party platform THAT is.

We're all supposed to fight each other and hate each other, according to palin and the thought police over at GOP.

We have a better idea....let's elect a decent man and let Obama fix some of the hate and fear that plagues America. If he is elected, and the economy improves, healthcare is affordable and the war ends, surely you will give him due credit.

And maybe we won't listen anymore to the extremists in GOP who HATE HATE HATE.

GOP OWNS THE HATE AND FEAR IN THIS COUNTRY.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 12:41 PM

I don't like McCain but I will vote for him because Obama spells Marxist doom for the US. Obama's campaign and supporters are all about censorship. Obama was raised with a silver spoon, bills footed by Muslim sheiks in Saudi Arabia. How would Obama know anything about the average American? At least Palin's net worth is way below the average of the Obama supporter in the SF Bay Area--the average American can actually identify with that.

Posted by: TL40 | October 6, 2008 12:39 PM

.

pbhs:
"notice that Palin is the one slinging all of the mud"

The 'mud' cane from Obama's butt.

Posted by: Billw3 | October 6, 2008 12:39 PM

@DJ16, when all else fails, resort to ignornace, huh?

Brilliant....lets eee how that works for you on Nov. 4

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:38 PM

No wonder Palin thought being called "Valley trash" was a compliment.

Posted by: TomJx | October 6, 2008 12:37 PM

This was the last straw - I made up my mind to vote Democratic this year and submitted a small donation to Senator Obama's campaign. My 401K has dropped by more than 20% over the past two weeks, and this women talks about this nonsense!

Posted by: independent_va | October 6, 2008 12:37 PM

Obama was 8 years old. Ayers was never convicted. Obama has never been associaited with anything remotely illegal or unethical Ayers has done. There is and never was any investigation into Obama.

Meanwhile, in real news, McCain was actually INVESTIGATED and REPRIMANDED for the Keating 5 incident...and incident which cost the taxpayers million and million of dollars.

How much did Obama assocaition with Ayers cost you, as a taxpyer? nothing, unless you count the brain cells lost having to read Republican ignorance....continuous ignorance of facts....documented facts.

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

You moron it has to do with 'who does this guy associate with?'. He has sat on two boards with this terrorist. Bill Ayers has even hosted a party or two for Obama in his home. We, as a people have a right to know and question our leaders or future leaders.

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

As to those posters who support the kind of campaigning that Sarah Palin is so good at; vicious, slandering, and lying, perhaps Sarah Palin should not bring up Rev. Wright. She is heavily involved and vested in her own pastor who has exorcised her in front of her congregation. We all know that she is on a mission from God and that God wants her to win and maybe even be the first female President of the USA (please God, no). She is "preaching to the choir" at her rallies. I question, however, when her campaigning style elicits responses of "let's kill him". She is scary. Independents, please take note. Do not vote for the McCain-Palin ticket. They are unAmerican.

Posted by: opal1 | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

Did the exorcism work?

Posted by: joetoddadams | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

Meanwhile, Obama continues to pull away in the polls, as well as in EVERY battelground state.

Will McCain win ANY states? Maybe the state of denial.

See how Americans are tured of the lies, even with your fearmongering BS, they put him double digits ahead of your out-of-touch septegenarian

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

Though Governor Palin's comments are old, unfounded allegations, Dana Milbank unfortunately assisted in giving them play. His post, which just consists of the stump speech and crowd reactions, for example, was picked up by Google News and prominantly displayed on the front news page.

Posted by: ChrisL2 | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

After the NH primary McCain was asked about some of the rough stuff he'd gotten from Romney. McCain responded:"it's like wrestling with a Pig, you both get dirty but the pig likes it". hmmm.... guess the senator from AZ learned to like it after all.

Posted by: dexter9999 | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

You've got to love the pro-Obammie posts here ..

Absolutely hilarious. Talking about Obamalamadingdong's friends and associates .. who are just that .. is "racist" and "slander." The only racists are Obammie and his mindless followers. This is the guy who traveled to Kenya at U.S. taxpayer expense to campaign for the socialist Raila Odinga who lost the election and then started post-election violence and genocide! You people had better WAKE UP QUICK and learn about your EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CANDIDATE!

Posted by: DJ16 | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

John McCain is confused, showing signs of dementia, likely to have his melanoma cancer return and is mindlessly spouting lies from his sleazy, dishonest campaign. John McCain has been in lockstep with George W Bush over 90% of the time. Another four years of Bush policies would totally destroy our country and that is what we would get with John McCain. If you believe John McCain's recent campaign lies that suddenly he would be different, then I have a Bridge to Nowhere to sell you.

Sarah Palin is clearly unqualified to be President, is a religious fundamentalist extremist who would take away a women's right to choose and would create an American Taliban reversing all the gains in civil rights. For the sake of our country, we must make sure that Barack Obama is elected President.

See http://www.Democracy-Now.us

Posted by: Fox7777 | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

all she is doing is stirring up the hate..... and she clearly sees nothing wrong with it.... i can see what she teaches her children..... there are some lines that you just shouldnt cross and she has....

Posted by: rnorth2 | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

Barack Obama's Amazing Generosity:

ÅSGÅRDSTRAND (VG): Mary was a newlywed and ready to move to Norway, but was stopped at the airport because she didn’t have enough money for the trip. Then a stranger turned up and paid for her.

Mary Menth Andersen was 31 years old at the time and had just married Norwegian Dag Andersen. She was looking forward to starting a new life in Åsgårdstrand in Vestfold with him. But first she had to get all of her belongings across to Norway. The date was November 2nd, 1988.

At the airport in Miami things were hectic as usual, with long lines at the check-in counters. When it was finally Mary’s turn and she had placed her luggage on the baggage line, she got the message that would crush her bubbling feeling of happiness.

-You’ll have to pay a 103 dollar surcharge if you want to bring both those suitcases to Norway, the man behind the counter said.

Mary had no money. Her new husband had travelled ahead of her to Norway, and she had no one else to call.
-I was completely desperate and tried to think which of my things I could manage without. But I had already made such a careful selection of my most prized possessions, says Mary.


Although she explained the situation to the man behind the counter, he showed no signs of mercy.
-I started to cry, tears were pouring down my face and I had no idea what to do. Then I heard a gentle and friendly voice behind me saying, That’s OK, I’ll pay for her.

Mary turned around to see a tall man whom she had never seen before.

-He had a gentle and kind voice that was still firm and decisive. The first thing I thought was, Who is this man?
Although this happened 20 years ago, Mary still remembers the authority that radiated from the man.
-He was nicely dressed, fashionably dressed with brown leather shoes, a cotton shirt open at the throat and khaki pants, says Mary.

She was thrilled to be able to bring both her suitcases to Norway and assured the stranger that he would get his money back. The man wrote his name and address on a piece of paper that he gave to Mary. She thanked him repeatedly. When she finally walked off towards the security checkpoint, he waved goodbye to her.

The piece of paper said ‘Barack Obama’ and his address in Kansas, which is the state where his mother comes from. Mary carried the slip of paper around in her wallet for years, before it was thrown out.
-He was my knight in shining armor, says Mary, smiling.

She paid the 103 dollars back to Obama the day after she arrived in Norway. At that time he had just finished his job as a poorly paid community worker* in Chicago, and had started his law studies at prestigious Harvard university.
In the spring of 2006 Mary’s parents had heard that Obama was considering a run for president, but that he had still not decided. They chose to write a letter in which they told him that he would receive their votes. At the same time, they thanked Obama for helping their daughter 18 years earlier.

In a letter to Mary’s parents dated May 4th, 2006 and stamped ‘United States Senate, Washington DC’, Barack Obama writes**:

‘I want to thank you for the lovely things you wrote about me and for reminding me of what happened at Miami airport. I’m happy I could help back then, and I’m delighted to hear that your daughter is happy in Norway. Please send her my best wishes. Sincerely, Barack Obama, United States senator’.
The parents sent the letter on to Mary.

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/presidentvalg-2008/artikkel.php?artid=527005

Posted by: neon_bunny | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM

Palins only run in with a Russian was Yakov Smirnoff in the late 80's

Posted by: Bodiethebulldog | October 6, 2008 12:35 PM

“According to public records, he and Cindy received a marriage license in Maricopa County, Ariz., in early March 1980, four weeks before his divorce from Carol was final.”

Cindy Hensley is home wrecker.

As a Christian man, I can’t in a clear conscious vote for an adulterer and sinner. As the article delineated, John is an adulterer and his marriage with Cindy is NOT legal as he was still married to Carol.

I am sorry, but all the evangelical voters, who claim to support McCain because of his values and religion background, are hypocrites or misinformed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/05/AR2008100502589.html

Posted by: JJames081 | October 6, 2008 12:35 PM

Does the McCain/Palin campaign think the current state of country is a joke? Seriously, is this what they offer with less than 30 days to the election?

Anyone with just a bit of intelligence would find this insulting. Give me a break. John McCain's association in the Keating 5 is way more serious and questionable to his character and judgement since he actually came out and defended this crook vs Obama who was 8 years old when Ayers was a radical!

Please...we're in the middle of financial crisis, millions of people are without healthcare, we have an astronomical unemployment rate which is about to go even higher and this what Sarah Palin has to offer?

We need to let them know that what worked for Bush in 2000 and 2004 WILL NOT WORK IN 2008! And they call themselves Mavericks? I think not!

Posted by: Brooklyn81 | October 6, 2008 12:35 PM

Palin is really a sick bimbo. Its now wonder the Palin-McCain ticket polls numbers are dropping faster than the dow jones. And speaking of Dow Jones it fell 10,000 pts this morning, so how does figure Ayers and Keating five is more important than the economy? Stupid! No wonder their campaign is in the tank.

Posted by: freeworld23 | October 6, 2008 12:35 PM

Wow...notice that Palin is the one slinging all of the mud, not Mcshame....

McCain = Pimp
Palin = Prostitute

Is she really that naive? What about her husband's ties to that organization in Alaska? Has she forgotten about that? What about the economy? Does she care about that?

McCain/Palin Ticket = RACISM at it's finest!

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%e2%80%9cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%e2%80%9d/

Posted by: pbhs | October 6, 2008 12:35 PM

Perhaps Sarah Palin's pastor needs to remind her of the 9th of those Ten Commandments..."Thou shalt not bear false witness..."

Posted by: bkm242 | October 6, 2008 12:35 PM

I don't think the GOP is being hard enough on the Dems this season. We need to remember the President of the United States is the Judicial branch and does not create fiscal policy. That would be your democratic run house. However, both the pres and the house must agree or nothing passes. This is why I like McCain. He has friends on both sides of the aisle and knows how to get things done. Remember, we wound up with our current president because we wanted change; someone who was not a direct Washington insider and this has been the result. Corporations don't promote entry level managers with only 1 year of experience to CEO of the company because they want a fresh take, now do they? Why would we want that? Oh - and I didn't vote for the current president. I vote for who I like, not the party affiliation.

Posted by: abhfromiowa | October 6, 2008 12:34 PM

Obama was 8 years old. Ayers was never convicted. Obama has never been associaited with anything remotely illegal or unethical Ayers has done. There is and never was any investigation into Obama.

Meanwhile, in real news, McCain was actually INVESTIGATED and REPRIMANDED for the Keating 5 incident...and incident which cost the taxpayers million and million of dollars.

How much did Obama assocaition with Ayers cost you, as a taxpyer? nothing, unless you count the brain cells lost having to read Republican ignorance....continuous ignorance of facts....documented facts.

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:34 PM

excuse me i meant over 150 billion in earmarks

Posted by: rnorth2 | October 6, 2008 12:34 PM

palin is busy taking the GOP ticket away from mccain. He is being stripped of any importance by her because she is determined to be president. Poor mccain is out to lunch.

The polls seem to show that she is actually helping Obama. The nation seemes to like Obama and his message, and is rejecting palin and what's left of mccain and their message.
RCP Average 09/26 - 10/05 -- 49.3 43.3 Obama +6.0
Rasmussen Tracking 10/03 - 10/05 3000 LV 52 44 Obama +8
Hotline/FD Tracking 10/03 - 10/05 909 LV 47 41 Obama +6
Democracy Corps (D) 10/01 - 10/05 1000 LV 49 46 Obama +3
Gallup Tracking 10/02 - 10/04 2728 RV 50 43 Obama +7
GW/Battleground Tracking 09/30 - 10/05 800 LV 50 43 Obama +7

So the people speak. Better listen, GOP. You are the minority now.....nobody is listening to the hate message but the extreme right wing crazies.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 6, 2008 12:33 PM

His issues isn't about ethics and character, her behavior is.

It's bad enough that this is old news, but it would be better if she wasn't under investigation herself, for substantial misuse of power.

Posted by: joetoddadams | October 6, 2008 12:33 PM

""Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience." What!!!!!??????!!!

I hope the Secret Service was on that guy like glue? That's the response to "civil discourse". Yikes, the extreme right-wingers are showing their true colors. The devil in lipstick.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 6, 2008 12:33 PM

I don't get it....when Palin first came into the spotlight, people were telling Obama / Biden to be gentle to the delicate flower, otherwise they bordered on sexism...now Palin comes out swinging! REALLY?? It's on Piggy!!

Posted by: Bodiethebulldog | October 6, 2008 12:32 PM

mccain has also been going on and on about no earmarks... but there are over 15 billion dollars in earmarks in that bailout bill..... and i mean some stupid crap.... to.....

Posted by: rnorth2 | October 6, 2008 12:32 PM

argh2, yes.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 6, 2008 12:32 PM

Palin is sickening. Bare fangs, no brain. keep it up Sarah so everyone can see how really despicable your methods are.

Posted by: Miguel2 | October 6, 2008 12:31 PM

Ollie North's conviction was overturned. He's an American hero!

Sounds like this is going to be a rough thread. Too bad my lunch break's over. Play nice, kids.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 6, 2008 12:31 PM

Palin is a racist cvnt.


Crash and burn GOP, crahs and burn.. The spectacle is awesome.

Posted by: King3 | October 6, 2008 12:31 PM

Why no mention of the Palins' anti-American political connections? Sarah's worked with the Alaska Independence Party for many years, with her husband as a registered member and herself as an "operative" posing as a Republican to infiltrate government. I'm not making this stuff up; you can listen to their Vice Chairman spell it out on video:

"Our current governor, we mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected... to get along and go along — she eventually joined the Republican Party"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NK2sFJebGc

Their party's anti-American founder said things like "The fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government".

Palin's opinion? "Keep up the good work!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

Can we really afford to have someone with these hateful ties in the second most powerful position in the country?

Posted by: argh2 | October 6, 2008 12:30 PM

Sarah Palin go home to Alaska and watch for the Russians to come.

Posted by: nkelly1 | October 6, 2008 12:30 PM

I'll be glad when this election is over and I don't have to look at this ridiculous woman again...she can take her folksy crap back to Alaska!
I find her embarrassing and insulting to women...she has set us way back.
Republicans think they have the Texas vote;
they better think again...people are waking up to this nightmare in a skirt...yeah..even the joe six-packs don't like you, sarah

Posted by: alleycattoo2000 | October 6, 2008 12:30 PM

she thinks that she can get by and dodge those kinds of questions and others by acting cute and supposedly adoraible... other people may by that but shes not getting it passed me and mine...

Posted by: rnorth2 | October 6, 2008 12:29 PM

Oliver North is McCain's pal, and sold Iran the explosives that were used to kill 241 U.S. Marines.

Posted by: TigerPaw1 | October 6, 2008 12:29 PM

I can't decide - is she engaging in McCarthyism or just pure racism?

Posted by: ccednd2002 | October 6, 2008 12:29 PM

cvnt

Posted by: upland_bill | October 6, 2008 12:28 PM

I don't see what the big deal is.
Ayres was an anarchist back in an era of it and he has obviously grown up and become a productive member of the community.
I read that Jerry Rubin is a Wall street banker now.
alot of them grew up and became professionals in the corporate world and professors.
Hayden was a state congressman. No one is screaming over these pols who knew him in the state political circles.
so, what is the big deal because this guy was on a board with Obama.
It's such ancient history and most do not care!

Posted by: vwcat | October 6, 2008 12:27 PM

flyfishchef thats my point well one of them anyway...
she and mccain arent going to the issues.... thats what people want to know about..... with so many people loosing their jobs.... give me a break... and it can happen to anyone.... there isnt a thing called job security in this country....

Posted by: rnorth2 | October 6, 2008 12:27 PM

...So, 40 year old history is now news....The Vietnam War as a travesty in this nation back then, so when the RNC/GOP lie machine are unable to talk about the real problems that need to be discussed, economy, health care, war, unemployment, aids, they come up with this crapola....

peeeuuu Palin should keep her idiotic and repetitive mouth shut...with her Caribou Barbie pull string in her back....

What about news from just 2 weeks ago....

Katie: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part as your foreign policy experience, what do you mean by that?

Sarah: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side... the land... uhh boundary... that we have with uhhh Canada. It it it's fff-funny that a comment like that was uh kind of made to...... uhh... character.......uhh......I don't know.....you know.......reporters...

Katie: Mocked?

Sarah: Yeah, mocked. I guess that's the word. Yeah. umm....

Katie: Well, explain to why that enhances your foreign policy credentials?

Sarah: Well, it certainly does. Because our......our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They are in the state that I am the executive of.

Katie: Have you ever been in an negotiations for example with the Russians

Sarah: We have trade missions back and forth we... we... It's very important when you even consider nation security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and and uh comes into the a a a air space of the United States of America wh wh where do they go? It's Alaska, it's just right over the border. It it is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that.... an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there they are right next to umm our state.

....What about the Keating five in 1988 20-year-old story when McCaint was 52...

The story may be old, but it's recently become surprisingly relevant to current events -- we are, after all, talking about a scandal involving major bank failures, financial fraud and greed, and political ineptitude.

There is history repeating itself 20 years later....

McCaint is running with a message about his ability to "reform" both DC and Wall Street record.

I agree with Jack Cafferty at CNN and his take on that CBS Interview...

Watch that report @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

McCaint is no hero...but peeeuuu Palin is a hero sandwich...full of old baloney
.......and a witch doctor in her closet

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 6, 2008 12:26 PM

In his 2000 campaign Senator McCain begged us to judge the candidates “by the example we set, by the way we conduct our campaigns, by the way we personally practice politics.” Very well. Having done so, at this juncture of the McCain/Palin campaign all I feel is revulsion. Even were we not clearly at a time of great danger for the country, but especially now, we deserve better from our candidates.

The McCain/Palin attempt at character assassination is despicable, dishonest and dishonorable. This last desperate flailing of the McCain campaign is reminiscent — in very specific ways — of McCarthyism at its worst. I believe the American electorate is better than the McCain/Palin/Rove/Schmidt smear machine apparently do and that they will reject the cynicism that underlies this vileness.

To Senator McCain and his "attack dog with lipstick" I pose the question once posed to Senator McCarthy: “Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”

Posted by: truthtopower40 | October 6, 2008 12:24 PM

Said at a time of peace and prosperity in America, these attacks might actually work. But as bad as things are, given the choice between more Rovian negative campaigning and real solutions, Obama's going to win. Too little, too late. The sooner Sarah Palin leaves the public eye, the better for everyone.

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | October 6, 2008 12:24 PM

that only goes to show just how stupid she and all those idiots that follow her and that old man around...... shes one to talk and so is mccain....... they talk like they have never done a thing wrong.. give me a break..........and who gives a vrap about the wright man anyway..... hes no minister..,,,, far from it.....its like i have said before... my grandfathers a preacher and i sat in his church every sunday...... did i like everything he said... heck no....... but i didnt go to church to see or to praise my grandfather.. i went to church to praise the lord...... you dont go to church for the preacher......... you go for god.....

i can see that mccain is clearly scared of not winning so hes going to try to pull one over on the voters and the voters who hasnt made up their minds yet..... i am not a dem and i am not a rep.... if there was another rep.. running besides mccain i would probably be leaning foward a rep.. vote but i am voting for obama/biden.... the rep... shouldnt have backed mccain for president.... i dont like the man..... i dont like what he stands for and he couldnt tell the truth if his life depended on it...... example ...veterans ..... and the gi bill.....what does he know of struggle.... what does he know of job loss what does he know of not having medical care and the job healthcare cost an arm and a leg to pay for out of your check... he has had it easy all his life..... there is no way he can relate.... what was it that he said and kept saying.... even though the evidence was staring him in the face otherwise.... ( the economy is strong ) what a dumb a--..... and the woman thats running with him............. oh lord help me.... its joe six pack this and we're mavericks that..... if i have to go on listening to her whinny voice any longer i'll probably pass out...parading that knocked up kid if hers all over the tv... know one wants to see that...... she needs her have those kids in school....

Posted by: rnorth2 | October 6, 2008 12:24 PM

What does Palin have to say about the huge losses in the stock market and how she and McCain will address it?

What does Palin have to say about the 159,000 people who were laid off last month and how she and McCain will address it?

What does Palin have to say about McCain healtcare proposal to tax employer provided health benefits and force millions into the private healthcare marketplace while adding another $7,000 in private market healthcare insurance costs to the American family?

What does Palin have to say about improving regulation and oversight on Wall St. to bring back investor confidence in the markets?

What does Palin have to say about improving Social Security and planning for its long term stability?

What does Palin have to say about making college more affordable for the middle class?

Why does Palin who claims to be an "average middle class hockey mom", refuse to address the issues that matter to the average middle class person?

Why can't Palin explain why McCain/Palin policies are just like Bush's but will somehow work for them after 8 years of failure with Bush?

Give speeches about issues that matter to the middle class or go back to hunting moose while waiting for the AK state legislature to impeach you, Sarah.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 6, 2008 12:24 PM

Oh please. Now, you are just going for the hate-the-negative-female imagery.

There is nothing about Palin's speech that is remotely as ugly as the relentlessly negative harangues Obama's been spouting. Especially Obama's racist warnings and other ugly stuff.

Why don't you post one of those scripts and the chants and rants that the audience responds with?

You don't have to use sexism so much to help Obama win this election. This post is just bigoted focus on Palin, trying to paint her as an ugly person for being the campaign's attack dog when that is her role and when Obama and Biden do it worse than her.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 6, 2008 12:16 PM

Sadly, it looks more and more certain that Obummer will win this election. Gov Palin is being laughed at by the media, but what she is saying about BO is the truth and nothing but the truth. Shame on the MSM for being so in thrall of Borat that they failed to vet the fraud who will be king.

Posted by: bessmount1 | October 6, 2008 12:15 PM

Palin better get back to talking about how to fix the economy and win the war on terrorism or she will see her political future as a national leader in the Republican party fall by the wayside.

Independent voters don't care about Ayers, a domestic terrorist committing bombings when Obama was 8 yrs old and leaving in Indonesia/Hawaii.

The DOW has lost over 500pts and dipped below 10,000 pts for the first time since 2004. Many people with 401ks will see their statements this week

Posted by: AJ2008 | October 6, 2008 12:15 PM

I'm going to get my Obama yard sign and car magnets today. I expect I'll sign up for some volunteer time, too.

Posted by: zukermand | October 6, 2008 12:11 PM

Mindless Floridians, angsty faux feminists, closet racists seeing the clueless cheerleader as cover and perhaps a few frightened jews who intend to break from the tradition of american jews voting overwhelmingly progressive, liberal and democrat...these are the dumbed down supporters of the G.reedy O.il P.igs. How will the controllers overcome the voting machines this time since the fix will have to overcome a landslide against them? And what will you individually do about it when it happens?
Think Martial Law and start buying canned goods and ammunition for the, at least, shotgun you should already own.

Posted by: mot2win | October 6, 2008 12:10 PM

Right, the Stock market has tanked again. She has nothing to say about that. This is all they've got? Who is running this campaign? At least make an effort to keep it close.

McCain should just replace Palin with Tina Fey. At least then this foolishness would be funny.

Posted by: hacksaw | October 6, 2008 12:09 PM

The stakes are really high. The McCain campaign is also challenging Obama contributions as being from foreigners, which true or not, also insinuates that he is unAmerican.

My advice, is to go to Obama.com and contribute to his campaign so that he can effectively combat all of this slander and our country will not be further cursed with four years of McCain/Palin decent into total madness.

Posted by: maddymappo | October 6, 2008 12:06 PM

Good for her. Reverend Wright is next!

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 6, 2008 12:05 PM

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Palin

Posted by: nclwtk | October 6, 2008 12:02 PM

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