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By Howard Kurtz
The Ads: From the Obama-Biden campaign, "The Subject":

(Announcer:) He's out of ideas. Out of touch. And running out of time. But with no plan to lift our economy up, John McCain wants to tear Barack Obama down. With smears that have been proven false. Why? McCain's own campaign admits that if the election is about the economy, he's going to lose. But as Americans lose their jobs, homes and savings, it's time for a President who'll change the economy. Not change the subject.

From the McCain-Palin campaign, "Hypo":

(Announcer:) Who is Barack Obama?
KMOV TV ANCHOR (VIDEO): Obama's presidential campaign is asking Missouri law enforcement to target anyone who lies or runs a misleading television ad.
(Announcer:) How hypocritical. Obama's Social Security attack was called "a falsehood." His health care attack ... "misleading". Obama's stem cell attack ... "not true". Barack Obama. He promised better. He lied.

Analysis: Both presidential candidates are using news organizations and fact-checking groups to accuse each other of airing false advertising, though only John McCain goes so far as to call Barack Obama a liar.

Both ignore accusations that their own ad campaigns and public statements have included misrepresentations and falsehoods, pretending that only their opponent is hurling bogus allegations. McCain's commercials have been accused of falsehoods more frequently, although Obama has begun to catch up in the last two weeks.

Obama's ad -- which includes the now-obligatory shot of McCain with President Bush and the accusation that he's "out of touch" -- is on solid ground in accusing the senator from Arizona of trying to change the subject from the economy. McCain's own aides have been quoted as saying he needs to turn the page from the financial crisis and concentrate on attacking Obama's character. It is not accurate, however, to say that McCain has "no plan" for the economy, as he has made a series of proposals involving tax cuts, health coverage and energy.

The "smears" line involves McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, who said last weekend that Obama has been "palling around with terrorists." As the ad notes, CNN called that "false," and the Associated Press said it was "a deliberate attempt to smear Obama." The reference is to onetime Weathermen bomber William Ayers, a slight acquaintance of the senator from Illinois who has served on two boards with him. A CNN correspondent said "there's no indication that Ayers and Obama are palling around or they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years."

By saying McCain is "running out of time" and trying to "change the subject," the ad suggests that the Republican's attacks are born of political desperation and not to be trusted.

McCain's ad is based on the accurate notion that Obama long talked about running a campaign that moved beyond petty politics, thereby rendering him vulnerable to the accusation that he is practicing old-style attack politics.

The charge that Obama is being hypocritical rests on a St. Louis television report that the Democrat had asked Missouri law enforcement officials to target campaigns that run misleading ads. But the correspondent for KMOV-TV was quoted by a local newspaper as saying that Republicans had twisted his story out of context, and that he had meant only that Obama's allies would call attention to questionable ads.

As cited in the ad, Factcheck.org called one Obama commercial "a falsehood sure to frighten seniors who rely on their Social Security checks." In that ad, Obama described the "Bush-McCain privatization plan" as "cutting Social Security benefits in half." McCain has made no such proposal; the Obama ad is based on the president's failed 2005 plan. Factcheck said another Obama spot was "misleading" in accusing McCain, based on an article he wrote, of wanting to "do the same to our health care" that "Wall Street deregulation" has done to the banking industry.

ABC's Jake Tapper, as the spot notes, criticized an Obama radio ad as untrue in claiming that McCain is against stem-cell research without noting that McCain had dropped his earlier opposition. But Tapper also examined a McCain radio ad on the subject and concluded: "Both candidates mislead voters by glossing over or ignoring inconvenient facts." The selective nature of both these ads underscore that judgment.

Posted at 10:52 AM ET on Oct 7, 2008  | Category:  Ad Watch
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Obama is a liar and he likes to kill babies and he is the antichrist

Posted by: Jake_D | October 7, 2008 5:15 PM

I'm sure it's been pointed out by now that Obama's campaign has routinely been calling McCain and his campaign liars for over a month.

Nearly as I can tell McCain hasn't been lying, but the Obama camp certainly has been trying to hide information.

Whether or not, for instance, a working relationship with Bill Ayers should disqualify one for the Presidency, the Obama campaign's dissembling over the relationship certainly should.

He could have stood up long ago and said "Sometimes to get things done you work with people you don't agree with" and the whole thing would have blown over.

But he and his campaign have doubled-down on the "how should I have known he had a past?" crap. Problem is, that's a lie, and even if it were true it would point to a level of ignorance that should make Harvard Law tremble at the notion that this guy's an alumni.

And the media keeps trying to sell us on the idea that Gov Palin is the ignorant one...

Posted by: mrkwong | October 7, 2008 4:14 PM

Ok its true that Obama isnt that qualified to be president, but an even sadder fact is that people are even less enthusiastic about McCain, McBush, McRNC, so the GOP should of had a different nominee, then maybe they would of had a chance. A new national poll taken by watchdebate.com says that people preffer Huckabee/Palin08
5 to 1 over mccain palin. Matter of fact those polled liked Huckabee/mccain08 over McCain/Palin08 nearly 2 to 1. The problem isnt how bad Obama is, The problem is how bad of a candidate McCain is. See the Poll your self at http://www.mccanes.com/watchdebatevp.html

So no matter how much the GOP crys, and how desperate they get its their own fault for Pushing such a weak candidate. This will be the first time I ever vote Dem and I think Obama is a much stronger candidate then McCain. Funny though, You will never believe who was voted Debator of the year.
http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 7, 2008 3:21 PM

LonewackoDotCom,

And you forget to mention that the Palin-McCain TruthSquad also has prosecutors and law enforcement officials as well in the very same state. So once again, the dweller of a glass house is casting stones.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 7, 2008 3:18 PM

Kurtz writes: "But the correspondent for KMOV-TV was quoted by a local newspaper as saying that Republicans had twisted his story out of context, and that he had meant only that Obama's allies would call attention to questionable ads."

Kurtz forgets to note the intimidation factor from law enforcement figures and prosecutors acting as a TruthSquad. That's clearly part of BHO's long line of attempts to shut down speech. Not only that, but one of those figures thought an ad was false when in fact it was at the least open to debate; see the second update here:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008046.html

As for Kurtz trying to downplay Ayers and using CNN to back him up, another group at CNN just showed how their own CNN "fact checker" wasn't telling the whole truth:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008099.html

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | October 7, 2008 3:07 PM

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, McCain and Plain have been blatantly lying since the conventions, McCains claim that Sarah sold the Governors plane on E Bay for a profit, yes she put it on E Bay 3 times it never sold, she then put it with a broker and sold it from 2.1 million 600,000 less than the 2.7 million cost, the sex ed commercial McCain approved was a flat out lie, the Bridge to Nowhere is another repeated lie told at least 16 times even after the video of her supporting it during her gubernatorial campaign was shown, and McCain calls Obama a liar what a joke, McCain has nothing left, he picked the least prepared person in the nation to be VP, which shows he does not put "country first" with McCain it is "campaign first" and to heck with the nation, he has thrown away any integrity and honor he ever once held, if he did, he broke every rule at at the Naval Academy garduated what 894 out of 899 and then was still selected for flight school, ask any other naval officer how many Annapolis grads get accepted for flight school, on the other hand who has Navy Fields named in honor of their WW2 hero grand father and his own father who became CincPac in McCains case it was who he knew, not what he knew. He played the system, he wrecked 4 airplanes before he was shot down, he should have never been in the cockpit the day he was shot down, any other aviator would have lost his wings, not Johnnie boy.....he has always abused his position in life and he is abusive and attempting to bully his way into the White House, I as a Army Staff Sergeant 100% P&T VA disabled veteran of Vietnam and Gulf war one (National Guard) whose own family goes back to Valley Forge and my own great great great great grandfather served as a doctors assistant in the Revolutionary War for General Washington, all the males in our family have served in the Army since then, some of our nations most storied units, 8th Army Air Corp WW2, 7th Calvary under General Pershing's march after Pancho Villa, my own father, 2nd ID on the DMZ of Korea, 3rd Infantry Division, 9th ID Vietnam, Calif 4th Volunteers in the Civil War my grandfather Joshua Eaton Bailey, he founded Safford, Arizona in 1874, and the stage coach stop at Baileys Wells in 1881 and it ran until 1927. As an NCO I am ashamed to say that I do NOT want John McCain as a President, an Officer is a person whose honor and integrity is above question and John's is not, if he behaved like this in the Army, he would have been made the permanent inventory officer or the mess hall control officer for range mess facilities, in other words NO real functions and he would have killed time until his time he owed the military was completed. This is not the bahavior of a "hero" I know many of the POWs who survived Vietnam and WW2 and a few from the Korean War, my step father was retired air force and his friends were "normal veterans" they survived the ordeal they didn't use the terms "hero" and disliked it when anyone else used that word to describe them, they were just extremely grateful they survived and came home, many men they knew did NOT. They would be the first to tell you living to come home did not make them "hero's" just veterans who did their duty.

Posted by: mikey30919 | October 7, 2008 2:13 PM

Palin's attacks on Obama's so-called "relationship" with former Weatherman member, Bill Ayers, a "domestic terrorist", who never killed anyone and who was never convicted of anything and whose actions took place when Obama was 8 years old, have verged on racist as she claims that Obama "doesn't see America as you and I do".

At a rally yesterday, a crowd member screamed, "Kill Him" as Sarah laughed and cheered with the crowd.

A fake sherriff waddles to the podium after peeeuuu and calls out Barack Hussein Obama to the crowd to further boos and chants of kill him...

At a McCain rally, he asked, "Who is Barack Obama?" and a crowd member yelled out "Terrorist" as McCain held that silly smirk on his addled face.

This reprehensible type of political campaigning is typical of the desperation the Republican Party finds itself in, as their numbers in the polls fall like the stock market...

peeeuuu palin and her husband are closeted facists and traitors...and again so is Vietcong propaganda model McCaint...

What is the Alaskan Independence Party?

The A.I.P. sympathized with Timothy McVeigh.

Founder Joe Vogel: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government", “and I won't be buried under their damn flag." (Joe Vogel is buried in Canada.)

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." Joe Vogel – Founder.

Dexter Clark, vice chairman of the A.I.P.: refers to the American soldiers in Alaska as "occupying troops."

Michael Hill, a representative of A.I.P., stated on Glen Beck’s program that the goal of the A.I.P. is to dissolve the United States and the Constitution.

This is Sarah Palin’s and the Republican Party’s version of patriotism and love of country.
........peeeuuuu

"First Dud", Todd Palin, registered with the Alaskan Independence Party in 1995 and remained a member for seven years. "Besides a short period of a few months in 2000 when he changed his registration to undeclared, pheww Palin remained a registered member of AIP until July 2002 when he registered again as an undeclared voter."

The AIP was founded in 1984, but its website doesn't begin listing officers until 1992, when its founder, Joe Vogler, "Disappeared"... in 1992, body found in May 1994."

As I have written in a previous blog...the same Joe Vogler who turned-up dead in a Fairbanks gravel pit, the victim of a "plastic-explosives sale gone bad", according to his murderer.

Sarah Palin addressed the Alaskan Independence Party Convention a little over 6 months ago, happily telling its attendees that she shared its "vision of upholding the Constitution of our great state", curiously not mentioning the Constitution of the United States.

She encouraged AIP to "keep up the good work".

The AIP website enshrines on its website a tirade from Joe Vogel that concludes with this statement.....

"We (the Alaskan Independence Party) ask that a courageous member of the United Nations sponsor us to appear before the General Assembly to present our case, that we may be restored to the list of Non-Self-Governing Territories so that we may eventually secure our right to self determination. We would also like to take the matter before the International Court of Justice if such is feasible."

...Now them's a fightun words.....

As for Wasilla, Alaska, it is STILL called the Methamphetamine capital of Alaska...oh also did you know that it is legal to possess under 3 ounces of Marijuhana in that state as well....

Sarah Sez..."gotta keep 'em stoned and stupid"

peeeuuu Palins 80% approval rating..yea, now I can see why...

A Skinhead Sherriff
Crowds chanting for human blood
A Woman in White....

Facism will come to us by a Bible in the right hand and a semi automatic rifle in the left.....

Alaskan Drug Enforcement under Palin proved uneffective...

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/alaska.html

Thanks but no thanks to McCaint and peeeuuu Palin for their treachery and further traitorus encounters

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 7, 2008 1:46 PM

so when are they going to call out McCain on his affairs? That he was courting his current wife while still married to his first... (She'd been a swimsuit model but was disfigured in a car accident while John was in Vietnam, so once he'd been released he got a newer prettier wife.) One month after they divorced, he married Cindy. How's that for character??? If there's going to be digging in the past, I would love to see John McCain's adultery addressed.

Posted by: ravingfig | October 7, 2008 1:39 PM

Since the Good Governor Palin likes to quote from the NY Times:

From the Tuesday, Oct. 7 NY Times, "Ms. Palin has several times cited a New York Times article published Saturday in raising Mr. Obama’s association with Mr. Ayers, but she has sidestepped its conclusion that the two men did not appear to be close and that Mr. Obama had never expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers."

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 7, 2008 12:58 PM

howard521,

If you have been awaiting the truth and expecting to hear it from the Palin-McCain campaign, I have news for you, you will still be waiting a long time. The truth has been out there a long time and all the smears were just that.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 7, 2008 12:58 PM

Funny how the guilty blame others. Obama never killed anyone. McCain dropped incendiary bombs on innocent villagers out of blind allegiance to bad policies. Most of the world now accepts that U.S involvment in Viet Nam was unjustified. To most of the world, McCain was a terrorist who just followed orders.
Tonight you'll see Obama hanging out with a REAL, unrepentant terrorist, John McCain.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 7, 2008 12:36 PM

mwhoke-
You're misquoting Rev Wright in a way that significantly changes what he said. What he essentially said was that Obama was playing politics. He did not, as you suggest, say he KNOWS Obama would say anything to get elected.
As far as playing politics goes, it was the diversionary tactics of Obama's opponents that cause him to have to address such non-issues before they grew into a bigger problem.
Funny how interested you are in Rev. Wright. He does not, and could not speak for Obama if he wanted to.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 7, 2008 12:19 PM

Desperation leads the human personality to the Dark Arts. McCain has reduced himself and his campaign to a mix of hate speech, lies, intimidation, fear, and anger into a dangerous potion. He will lose. ..........
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-the-dark-arts-of-rovian-politics/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 7, 2008 12:09 PM

Sam awoke in a place that looked like it had been hit by a hurricane. In fact , it looked like it had been hit by several hurricanes on global warming steroids. His wallet was empty, and his friends were mad at him. The last thing Uncle Sam remembered was arriving at a Grand Old Party. The rest was a blur.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 7, 2008 12:08 PM

Sam awoke in a place that looked like it had been hit by a hurricane. In fact , it looked like it had been hit by several hurricanes on global warming steroids. His wallet was empty, and his friends were mad at him. The last thing Uncle Sam remembered was arriving at a Grand Old Party. The rest was a blur.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 7, 2008 12:08 PM

McCain ACCEPTING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ASSOCIATES OF TERRORIST WILLIAM AYERS.


Arnold R. "Arnie" Weber is a Chicago Annenberg Board Member and Chicago "insider". He was a part of the Nixon White House. Arnie Weber has held other Washington "insider" jobs too. He is a LONGTIME REPUBLICAN DONOR. But get this: Arnie Weber was a BOARD MEMBER of the infamous **CHICAGO ANNNENBERG CHALLENGE** organization, which was founded by known "TERRORIST" Bill Ayers!


NEW INFORMATION SHOWS THAT JOHN MCCAIN HAS ACCEPTED "TAINTED" CAMPAIGN MONEY FROM ARNIE WEBER, AN ASSOCIATE OF BILL AYERS.

Arnie Weber has given the maximum legal amount of $1,500 to the McCain campaign in 2008. In 2008, Arnie Weber made two separate donations of $1,000 and $500 to McCain’s presidential campaign.

Will Senator McCain denounce this man, Arnie Weber, and his associations to "terrorists" (as defined by his vice-presidential running mate, Sarah Palin)?

I call on Senator McCain to reject these tainted donations from associates of KNOWN TERRORIST AYERS. John McCain should then investigate how such a thing could possibly happen inside HIS OWN CAMPAIGN before seeking to cast stones at Senator Obama. McCain's campaign CEO, RICK DAVIS, needs to explain to the AMERICAN VOTERS his reasons for accepting this dirty money.

I'm not making this up....

Are they really that desperate to win this election? Doesn't John McCain still believe in the honor that he felt when defending this country against the enemy in Vietnam where he served as a prisoner of war for years? Doesn't Senator McCain, a Christian, understand that he must remove the log from his own eye before trying to remove the splinter from the eye of his opponent? (Matthew 7:5)

THE "LIBERAL MEDIA" SHOULD ASK JOHN MCCAIN WHY HE ACCEPTED THIS TAINTED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THIS "TERRORIST" ASSOCIATE. Incredible as it may sound, Arnie Weber doesn't even DENY that he ASSOCIATED FOR YEARS with a "KNOWN TERRORIST".

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 7, 2008 12:08 PM

Obama's comments on McCain's health care plan untruthful? Several of McCain's core constituencies don't think so.

From the Oct. 7th NY Times:

American business, typically a reliable Republican cheerleader, is decidedly lukewarm about Senator John McCain’s proposal to overhaul the health care system by revamping the tax treatment of health benefits, officials with leading trade groups say.

The officials, with organizations like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Business Roundtable and the National Federation of Independent Business, predicted in recent interviews that the McCain plan, which eliminates the exclusion of health benefits from income taxes, would accelerate the erosion of employer-sponsored health insurance and do little to reduce the number of uninsured from 45 million.

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 7, 2008 12:01 PM

When will the MSM start reporting on the McCain-Palin campaign leading rallies with the crowd shouting "KILL HIM" "NIG**R" "TERRORIST" "TREASON" toward Sen. Obama? This kind of racism, hatred and smears at McCain-Palin rallies is absolutely outrageous and disgusting!

Posted by: pasifikawv | October 7, 2008 12:01 PM

The real story hear is how Johnah McPalin's rallies are taking on more of a Klan feel. Racial slurs being lobbed at African American members of the press and even camera men. People yelling out to kill Obama. It's fitting she is wearing white. She is a Klan leader.

Posted by: julian9682 | October 7, 2008 11:56 AM

The real story hear is how Johnah McPalin's rallies are taking on more of a Klan feel. Racial slurs being lobbed at African American members of the press and even camera men. People yelling out to kill Obama. It's fitting she is wearing white. She is a Klan leader.

Posted by: julian9682 | October 7, 2008 11:52 AM

By pandering to the most despicable and racist elements of our society, McCain and Palin have lowered their campaign to new and dangerous depths.

Of course, they themselves are not labelling Obama a "terrorist" or calling for his assassination. But by spreading false claims about Obama's inconsequential ties to old-time activist Bill Ayres, they are planting the seeds of violence in the sick minds of a dangerous few who may feel empowered to act.

McCain needs to bring his campaign back to a mature discussion of the economic downturn we are currently suffering. That is what voters want to know about, not one more round with the ridiculous Rev. Wright.

McCain has the chance to participate in an honorable way in this groundbreaking campaign -- or be remembered by history for his reckless, dangerous, and desperate smear campaign against President Obama.

Posted by: dee5 | October 7, 2008 11:17 AM

Palin's attacks on Obama's so-called "relationship" with former Weatherman member, Bill Ayers, a "domestic terrorist", who never killed anyone and who was never convicted of anything and whose actions took place when Obama was 8 years old, have verged on racist as she claims that Obama "doesn't see America as you and I do".

At a rally yesterday, a crowd member screamed, "Kill Him" as Sarah laughed and cheered with the crowd. a fake sherriff waddles to the podium after peeeuuu and
calls out Barack Hussein Obama to the crowd to further boos and chants of kill him...

At a McCain rally, he asked, "Who is Barack Obama?" and a crowd member yelled out "Terrorist" as McCain held that silly smirk on his addled face.

This reprehensible type of political campaigning is typical of the desperation the Republican Party finds itself in, as their numbers in the polls fall like the stock market...

peeeuuu palin and her husband are closeted facists and traitors...and again so is Vietcong propaganda model McCaint...

What is the Alaskan Independence Party?

The A.I.P. sympathized with Timothy McVeigh.

Founder Joe Vogel: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government", “and I won't be buried under their damn flag." (Joe Vogel is buried in Canada.)

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." Joe Vogel – Founder.

Dexter Clark, vice chairman of the A.I.P.: refers to the American soldiers in Alaska as "occupying troops."

Michael Hill, a representative of A.I.P., stated on Glen Beck’s program that the goal of the A.I.P. is to dissolve the United States and the Constitution.

This is Sarah Palin’s and the Republican Party’s version of patriotism and love of country.
........peeeuuuu

"First Dud", Todd Palin, registered with the Alaskan Independence Party in 1995 and remained a member for seven years. "Besides a short period of a few months in 2000 when he changed his registration to undeclared, pheww Palin remained a registered member of AIP until July 2002 when he registered again as an undeclared voter."

The AIP was founded in 1984, but its website doesn't begin listing officers until 1992, when its founder, Joe Vogler, "Disappeared"... in 1992, body found in May 1994."

As I have written in a previous blog...the same Joe Vogler who turned-up dead in a Fairbanks gravel pit, the victim of a "plastic-explosives sale gone bad", according to his murderer.

Sarah Palin addressed the Alaskan Independence Party Convention a little over 6 months ago, happily telling its attendees that she shared its "vision of upholding the Constitution of our great state", curiously not mentioning the Constitution of the United States.

She encouraged AIP to "keep up the good work".

The AIP website enshrines on its website a tirade from Joe Vogel that concludes with this statement.....

"We (the Alaskan Independence Party) ask that a courageous member of the United Nations sponsor us to appear before the General Assembly to present our case, that we may be restored to the list of Non-Self-Governing Territories so that we may eventually secure our right to self determination. We would also like to take the matter before the International Court of Justice if such is feasible."

...Now them's a fightun words.....

As for Wasilla, Alaska, it is STILL called the Methamphetamine capital of Alaska...oh also did you know that it is legal to possess under 3 ounces of Marijuhana in that state as well....

Sarah Sez..."gotta keep 'em stoned and stupid"

peeeuuu Palins 80% approval rating..yea, now I can see why...

Thanks but no thanks to McCaint and eeeuuu Palin for their treachery and further traitorus encounters.....

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 7, 2008 11:07 AM

McCain should drop the Ayers/Obama connection.

Instead he should focus on what the Reverend Jeremiah Wright stated, during his rant, at the National Press Club this summer. Reverend Wright stated "Barack Obama is a politician and he will say whatever he has too say to get elected". This comes from someone who was Obama's mentor for over twenty years and therefore knows him well.

Posted by: mwhoke | October 7, 2008 11:07 AM

Thank goodness McCain and Palin are finally taking off the gloves. Like millions of Americans I've awaited the truth, while feeling frustration watching Obama get a free ride. Subjects like Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleger, Rezko, Ayers, and others, seem to have been off limits for discussion, when they go to the core of who Obama is. In defense of Obama, the media treats him like a sacred cow, and implies that since these subjects were visited at one time, they're not fair game to revisit ... but, why not? Like millions of Americans I've never been comfortable with Obama attending Jeremiah Wright's church for TWENTY YEARS ... suddenly quitting for political expediency, and then claiming that he never heard the racist, anti-American sermons going on there. Also, the Trintity church website has since sanitized it's previous links on the 'Black Values System' ... and, the 'Black Liberation Theology' which Obama sworn an oath to for TWENTY YEARS.

Posted by: howard521 | October 7, 2008 11:01 AM

Democrats for Obama / Biden in 2008

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 7, 2008 10:57 AM

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