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Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), leaves his hotel to practice for the presidential debate with Democratic rival Barack Obama in Nashville, on Oct. 7, 2008. (Gerald Herbert/Associated Press)

By Dana Milbank
NASHVILLE -- It did not go unnoticed by middle Tennesseans that the last time there was any significant rainfall in this town was 32 days ago, but on the day Barack Obama and John McCain visited this city for their second presidential debate, there was a biblical torrent.

Thunder and a wind-swept deluge shook the tent on the Belmont University campus where campaign operatives hobnobbed with reporters and commentators. A leak opened in the tent somewhere near the London Times and National Public Radio -- and the portable toilets were 100 yards away, on the tennis court.

"It's the end days, clearly," joked Rep. Jim Cooper, the area's Democratic congressman.

Or maybe it isn't a joke. Maybe the gods are angry that the McCain campaign is accusing Obama of cavorting in a terrorist's living room. Maybe they don't think the Obama campaign should be mocking McCain as the "guy who yells at the kids to get off his lawn." Maybe they've seen the McCain and Obama ads hurling around charges such as "smears" and "lies."

Oh, and in case the meteorological hints were too subtle, the market tumbled another 500 points on Tuesday.

The political oddsmakers have come to a near unanimous view that, barring unforeseen developments, McCain is on course to lose the election. McCain, therefore, needs an unforeseen development.

"John McCain needs a game-changer," said the Christian Science Monitor.

"McCain heads into tonight's debate here down in the polls and in need of a game-changer," quoth NBC.

"John McCain is running out of time for a game-changing event," taunted the Obama campaign.

"In terms of the game-changer," said CNN's Ed Henry, "he's got to get moving."

Even Al Jazeera, broadcasting live from the debate site, decided it could play this game. Its correspondent reported that "John McCain has attempted many game-changing moments."

To liken this consequential election to a game wasn't entirely satisfying, but it beat the alternative line of pre-debate expectations setting: the wince-inducing geographic pun.

"As the two men get set for their second presidential campaign debate at 8 tonight in Nashville, otherwise known as Music City, Republican nominee McCain needs to change the words and the music," offered the Nashville Tennessean. "Democrat Obama would just as soon sing in the same key from now until Election Day."

"In Music City USA, John McCain still calls the tunes," countered the Toronto Star.

"McCain brings sharper notes to Music City," ABC News reported judiciously, "but will audience tune it out?"

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It's well known that to move a mule you must first get it's attention. You've got to smack it right between the eyes.
The problem for McCain is that the voters
stubbornly refuse to pay attention to anything he hits them with.
The Ayers story is having little effect except among right wingers, who are just short of being terrorists themselves toward the media.
His economic policies fall on dead ears too scared by wall street to listen to more warmed over Bush from McCain.
Foreign affairs are foreign to them.
The biggest terrorist threat they know is their boss coming at them with a pink slip.
Unless Bush does McCain a favor by delivering up a huge October surprise even more terrifying than losing your home and possessions, McCain is going to lose.

Posted by: seemstome | October 8, 2008 11:17 AM

McCain could not even get on to his chair to sit down on it. He just kind of leaned against it. Then realized standing beside it with his arm resting on the back looked like he was more in control of the chair. I think if he had gotten onto the chair he might of fell off.

As Sarah sat watching the debate on TV from a Pizzaria, she was writing notes.

1) When John and I make it into the oval office buy gift for John. A chair just like the one on the darn TV.

2) Give chair to John and boost him up onto it. smirky smile (Hand him box of dog gone it treats.)

3)Open door and let big dog into room then say surprise! A dog gone dog for you! wink wink

4)Tell John "Be right back, I got to smear some lipstick on and leave room. Smirky grin, wink, wink.

5)Wait outside door until the dog gone dog knocks over chair trying to get a dog gone it treat.

6)Become President while John is recovering from fall.

Need to buy:
chair
dog
dog treats
lipstick

Big, Big smirky smile, Wink Wink


McCain divorced his first wife when she became a political liability

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

Posted by: gauthor | October 8, 2008 3:15 AM

There is a time when people should let go for the greater good, that time has come for McCain. The only positive that the RNC have for now is the marketing palin for future elections;however, she will do herself a disservice by slinging mud at our next president because it will come back to her.


It is time for Change but not pretend change that McCain and palin want.

Posted by: alan15 | October 8, 2008 1:37 AM

So I just saw a new poll come out....Dream tickets for the president. Huckabee/Palin comes out 5 to 1 over McCain/Palin. Perhaps the RNC should switch out McCain for Huckabee, they might have a better chance at the white house this year cause I just can't see Obama loosing at this point. The problem is news stations are already calling the race for Obama.....switch it up and have a chance, or should we all stay home and just let Obama take the white house?

see poll at http://www.mccanes.com

Funny Huckabee was just recently named Featured Debator of the year by WathcDebate.com, ironic that McCain would bomb so bad right after the runner up wins debater of the year. http://www.huckabeeshow.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 7, 2008 11:40 PM

ISSUES NOT COVERED!
The second presidential debate and not one word about the illegal immigration occupation of this nation. Neither Obama or McCain even mentioned the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens US taxpayers are financially supporting and drowning our economy. Neither candidate mentioned that hundreds of thousands of illegal alien families who were given mortgages, that they could not afford.

McCain said we don't need mandates, but say nothing that taxpayers are forced by mandatory laws to pay for for the children of illegal aliens education. My son feels like a stranger, in a strange land in a Los Angeles school, where all he hears is bad Spanish.

This is no longer isolated communities whose corrupt Politicians, Governors, Mayors and elected officials, who have sold America to the Special interest lobby.

Now the middle class already overburdened with war appropriation funds, is still force to pay for the education, free health-care and Federal, state welfare handouts for illegal criminals. SIGN UP FOR THE SAVE ACT(H.R.4088) enforcement 'ONLY' law at www.numbersusa.com.

SIGN JUDICIAL WATCH, A LEGAL ORGANIZATIONS PETITION, TO RESCIND ALL 'SANCTUARY CITIES & STATES. www.sanctuarybusters.org/?source. www.numbersusa.com to Petition the SAVE ACT. For immigration facts not propaganda or lies,


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Posted by: infinity555 | October 7, 2008 11:20 PM

Obama should have debated McCain in these town hall formats for months. McCain has got no game. Look for the October surprise around the 24th. Israel will threaten Iran or a sudden terror threat will materialize in the U.S. However, neither incident will be genuine merely a distraction.
By then Obama will be up 12 points on average.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 11:14 PM

McCain was yet still combative and defensive. He seems to need a fight in order to not appear ridiculous. He didn't get one, and, yes he very often DID look ridiculous.

McCain really needed to win big tonight. It is clear that he backed down on the smears when he was face to face with Barrack. If he felt they were THAT crucial to his character, why not make a case of it before the American people.

He is a coward and uses the moose hunter talking heads to fight his disingenuous battle.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 7, 2008 10:57 PM

Obama easily won the economical portion.
McCain ditto on foreign policy.
What is more important for the country?

It's the economy, McCain.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:54 PM

Obama won, was better than the last debate.
McCain seemed dottering, looking to th ebast for current challenges.
Obama in contrast provided a sense of forward motion.

Like last time, not a game changer, McCain lost the election last week.

Obama will slowly increase his lead.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 7, 2008 10:42 PM

Obama fumbles on his thirty. McCain recovers with ten seconds on the clock.
He gets in formation quickly kicks and the field goal is------good. The game is over and it's a tie.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:34 PM

Sure Iran is going to attack Israel while we are there and watching. You betcha.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:27 PM

McCain scored fifty yard field goal, still down by three.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:25 PM

As a Republican, this one is painful to watch. McCain should not have let Palin prep him for this debate.

Posted by: 11811 | October 7, 2008 10:22 PM


It's the fourth quarter McCain is down by two field goals, he needs a touchdown.
uh oh he fumbled.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:19 PM

Brokaw is losing control. McSame blew a gasket or a cheek

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:15 PM

Obama cannot be seen soft on Bin Laden. Not with a name like Barrack Husein.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:10 PM

McCain is pretending to be a peacemaker.
What?

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:08 PM

The insurance companies must be getting nervous. Watch their stocks tank tomorrow.
Obama wants to take away their cash cow - us.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:04 PM

The audience has that deer in headlights look about them when Obama talks.

Posted by: Verrazzano | October 7, 2008 10:04 PM

OBAMA = WILLIAM AYERS = TERRORISTS = REVERERND WRIGHT = ACORN (LOOK IT UP IN OHIO) = HORRIBLE FOR AMERICA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TodALMoran | October 7, 2008 10:03 PM

Obama is no slouch he is winning big time.

McCain better get hold of himself. Some jerk just brought up peace.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 10:00 PM

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT... ANOTHER ARROGANT AND POMPOUS ADMONISHMENT OF OBAMA BY BROKAW TOOL!

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 7, 2008 10:00 PM

Obama did not like that punch McCain just gave him.

Posted by: Verrazzano | October 7, 2008 9:56 PM

McCain is losing, I cannot believe he is not making his move.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:55 PM

WHY IS BROKAW GIVING OBAMA A BIG R NEGATIVE AFTER OBAMA SPEAKS EVERY TIME? Brokaw is admonishing Obama after every response! At the same time, Brokaw is s*cking McCain d*ck after McCain finishes speaking!

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 7, 2008 9:55 PM

OBAMA = SOCIALISM

Posted by: TodALMoran | October 7, 2008 9:52 PM

Obama reminds me of a Seinfeld show. A lot of talk about nothing.

Posted by: Verrazzano | October 7, 2008 9:49 PM

Nuclear power is safe. Chernobyl, France recently, Three Mile Island.
Safe

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:47 PM

McCain is getting winded he's using his legs too much.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:42 PM

Brokaw must have worked out a system with McCain. He tried to stifle Obama.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:40 PM

Obama is doing too good. Where is McCain's
attack mode?

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:33 PM

McCain brought up a loser, the spending freeze, but not military, his favorite naturally

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:31 PM

I think the candidate that can focus on answering questions rather then pointing fingers will do better. If most americans are like me, then we're tired of hearing "he had lunch with this guy 15 years ago" and "he spoke up on behalf of this guy 20 years ago" Stop with the ridiculous accusations and constant finger pointing and just answer the questions!

Posted by: postgradeducated | October 7, 2008 9:23 PM

Twenty minutes in and no blood yet.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:23 PM

At least Obama is not agreeing with McCain.
Damn, he just said McCain's right.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:11 PM

McCain has changed the game. Devoid of any constructive ideas about how to get our economy out out of the whole dug by the Republicans who have deregulated Wall Street so that this meltdown occured and our deficit spending on an unnecessary war in Iraq, McCain and his pet pitbull with lipstick, Palin, have started to make unfair attacks on Obama.

McCain is an angry, nasty, unstable old man and instead of selecting a seasoned, sane and experienced running mate, he nominates Caribou Barbie. Now he's yammering on about trust. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him!

McCain + Palin = Bush + Chaney.

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | October 7, 2008 9:11 PM

So far no blood let by McCain. He is working the crowd well. Too many "my friends" since nobody knows him. No mistaking who Brokaw likes.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:09 PM

Fly rod writes:

"I'm cut to the quick by your brilliant analysis based on incontrovertible facts. Better trot out some proof, or challenge any one of my main points with some facts of your own. Otherwise, your trite insults are not much more than boring. Oh, and "Limbaugh, Limbaugh, nah nah nah" doesn't count as proof"


Rick Davis, McCain's campaign "manger" was receiving checks at a lobbying firm that bears his name, in the amount of 15 K up until August of this year.

The question is, does the electorate place enough blame on Obama for F and F (there's plenty to go around) to cost him the WH ?

Doubtful.

Oh, debate time.

Posted by: mathas | October 7, 2008 9:03 PM

What we really need to fear is if somehow John McCain and Sarah Palin manage to pull of a miracle and win.

That will means that the people who vote for them are so blind or they have no economic woes, or they cannot bring themselves to vote for a true agent of change because they can't get past the color of his skin.


What is really scary is having 4 more years of the same as Bush with McCain.

Obama is not a terrorist. He will not make any decisions that will endanger his country. Why? Because he is smart, intelligent and he loves his beautiful family. They are a true picture of the American family.

Sarah Palins family- 17 yrs old pregnant daughter( but those GOP hypocrit conservatives says that is okay) If that would of been one of Barack's daughters the would of eaten her alive. Her husband once belonged to a party that wanted Alaska to suceed from the US. I heard a speech of hers was given at this same party just last year.

They are so desperate they have nothing new to say about Obama so they bring back old news. Who is looking back on the Past now Sarah?

McCain and Palin- ye who is without sin throw the first stone. They way I hear it neither one of you have the right to throw any stones.
Keating Fine- Iran scandals, Troopergate, Underpaying Taxes, not paying taxes on your per diem and most of all stretching the truth to suit your own purposes.
Not answering questions at a debate because you don't want to appear like the true dumb bunny you are.

You know Politics is a dirty business. The truth is both sides probably stretch the truth. The GOP is so desperate to hold on to the White House nothing they do or say will surprise me that they do in the next 28 days.

Personally I would rather vote for someone that is for all of America rather than the businesses and corporations. The GOP only cares about America at election time, the rest of the time it is back to supporting businesses and corporations.

Who supports tax breaks to big oil? Remember how much you pay at the pump? Clinton in office less than 1.00. Bush is office 4.00 ?

How is 4 more years of the same going to fix things? We need our country back and we need the little respect back that the world had for us before Bush, Cheney and the GOP took over the last 8 yrs.

It looks like some people are starting to see the light. Ohio says you fooled me once GOP, you fooled me twice GOP into believe you were better for our state. This time, we want a change. They see the light. Many other traditionally GOP leaning states are seeing the light as well. We just can't survive 4 more years.

It was a sad day in America when Bush won the first time. It was an even sadder day in America when Bush won the second time. It will be a tragedy if Mccain wins especially if something happens in office and we are left in the hands of Sarah Palin. The people in Alaska sure have been fooled by her. You betcha!

Posted by: bjlopez1130 | October 7, 2008 9:03 PM

Wonder if McCain will drop the F bomb in the debate tonight, McCain is no stranger to the f word, see video at http://www.mccanes.com

You can watch McCain and Obama preparing for the debates, including out takes at http://www.watchdebate.com

See who won the watchdebate debator of the year award. http://www.Huckabeeshow.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 7, 2008 9:01 PM

Oh LOL! :-D

When did Dana get let out of his Closet, and allowed unto the Trail?

Is this tripe co-Writen by Mike Rogers, Eugene, Little Keithie Drolberman, or all of the above?

Wanna Debate Question?

Try: Senator McCain, would YOU have preferred to have been the Executive, in the Children's Schoolroom reading "My Pet Goat",

Or,

Where the Dick, Cheney, was, IN the White House(Or possibly waayyyy down under it), ready, and ABLE to HANDLE the crises?

Inquiring little minds, want to know! :-)

Mitt Romney as the Executive, and McCain as the Cheney type Veep/51Rst Senator;

WOULD be very appropriate CHANGE! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 7, 2008 9:00 PM

"FIRST THOUGHTS ON THE DEBATE"

"McCain was clearly in his element tonight as he ruthlessly turned his replies into sharp barbs directed at Obama's terrorist associations and Chicago corruption."
"While Obama held his own on the economy, he was clearly unprepared for the ferocity of the attack on his character. John McCain has reshaped the election to a referendum on Obama"

"REFLECTIONS TWO DAYS AFTER BELMONT"

"Apparently, voters perceived McCain's character assassination as just one more
gimmick designed to draw attention from their biggest fear of all - unemployment”

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 9:00 PM

Can you imagine what Rush would do if Bama
got hisself elected? He would blow a hemorrhoid out of his nose. At least he would still have a job.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:59 PM

flydeisel,

Boy, you are angry aren't you? Nobody better mess with you and John McCain.
How's it feel to be on the losing side?
I guess that's where your anger comes from. Pity.
See ya in four years(wink)

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 8:52 PM

To be fair, Kamakaze McCain crashed 3 planes not counting when he was captured.
But his biggest mistake was helping crash our economy.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:52 PM

It's the economy,economy,economy. That's all folks.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:49 PM

OB1Kinobi,
Well said, McCain wants only to be a glorious war president, and try to rewrite his own war experience. Which was dropping napalm on villages, when he wasn't crashing planes. I beleive he crashed four planes in total. John McCain wants to make history, at our expense.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 8:46 PM

I love the family values chatter from the GOP.

My wife and I had a profoundly retarded son - he never spoke a word or walked - he never sat up - he never looked at me - for all I knew he was deaf and blind as well.

Every meal he ever ate we fed him. Every diaper he ever wore we changed him. Every foot he ever moved from where he was lying we carried him. Every time he went to bed we carried him upstairs. Every morning we carried him downstairs.

We became a test marketing project for Depends adult diapers - we got 'em free and had to let the manufacturer know what we thought of them.

He lived to be ten years old. We did nothing but worry about what was going to happen to him. Then one day he simply woke up and died.

My wife gave up the best ten years of her life caring for Michael. We got no help from any government agency except our local school for handicapped kids. No medicare ; no medicaid; no state assistance. You see I "made too much money" - I was a middle management officer in a bank with two other kids and it was the only income in my home - but I made too much money.

Michael is gone now. So is my wife. She never went to church. She was not a believer. If there is a God in his heaven then she is sitting under a massive oak watching her perfect 10 year old son play with his 12 year old brother (yes - we lost two boys) in the green grass under a sunny sky with a cool breeze moving through his hair mop - "Mommy look at me!! Look at my kite!!" and she will wave and smile.

Talk is cheap. It’s a lot easier talk about having a kid like Mike than to be the parents. Too many of you fine religious folk feel so good about yourselves, (after all, its a "gift") then you smile and go on to your next “Fellowship” meeting or casserole supper knowing you saved another life.

No one, I repeat no one should have to bear a Michael at 30 if they don’t want to.......that’s choice.

Those who advocate the opposite should be prepared to urge society to provide care for that child for its entire life, even if you have to raise taxes. It’s the cost of being pro-life. Think of that the next time you see two old people pushing an adult retarded child in a wheel chair in the mall.

Posted by: toritto | October 7, 2008 8:44 PM

If the October surprise doesn't involve terrorism, war, or personal (and I mean very personal) association with Obama, then this is McCain's last shot at the presidency.
He has to go for the kill tonight in the debate. There can be no ambiguity in the result. He has to make Obama look like Palin in the Couric interview.
Otherwise it's movin on up to the white house for the first black president.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:43 PM

FlyDiesel,
your candidate is tied far more closely to Fannie and Freddie than Obama in terms of their campaigns. Educate yourself and stop listening to rush limbaugh so much.

Posted by: tommyd60

I'm cut to the quick by your brilliant analysis based on incontrovertible facts. Better trot out some proof, or challenge any one of my main points with some facts of your own. Otherwise, your trite insults are not much more than boring. Oh, and "Limbaugh, Limbaugh, nah nah nah" doesn't count as proof.

Posted by: FlyDiesel | October 7, 2008 8:42 PM

Since we have now seen the losing debate performances of KEating McCain and Palin, I want to spend a moment to tell the life story of McCAin and what he has turned into:

McCain made it out of Vietnam physically, however he returned with some serious mental demons. Upon his return, McCain found his wife in a hospital looking several inches shorter from a car wreck. Unfortunately, for her, McCain was back and ready to have a grand and erratic time. McCain saw his wife in the hospital and realized this was his opportunity to fly away. McCain left and never look back. He started having an affair with a blonde drug addict named Cindy while he was still married. McCain said goodbye to the life of driving around in a car like normal americans. He now had a path to money and a private jet.

It's the 80's and McCain arrives in Washington. He was the goto man for deregulation. He now had the chance to unleash all his mental anger on everyday americans. John McCain's first major initiative would be to join a Gang of Five. This gang of five, headed by Charles Keating put more money into McCain's pockets, and gave him more exotic vacations. However, nothing comes for free.1000's lost homes and billions of tax dollars were wasted to clean up after Keating McCain's scandal. He managed to squeak by, just like OJ Simpson, but the Senate knew he was wrong and blasted him for his lack of judgement.This wasn't the first or the last time that McCain would show us how bad his judgment really is.

McCains mental demons were invading his person life once again. After realizing he committed himself to a marriage with a drug addict, McCain started to lash out. He told his wife the obvious; he told her she was a "c*nt" Yes, these were his own words. She wasnt the only person McCAin had mental contempt for. He was know for calling his colleagues "a**holes" and lashing into profanity-laced tirades.

Fast forward to the 2008 election. McCain was still not satisfied in his never ending quest for hitler-like power. McCain may have been crazy, but he was still sane enough to know that time was running out. Being 72, suffering several bouts of cancer, and numerous health problems, McCain knew time was running out. In a quick move he flip-flooped on his vote against the bush tax cuts. His mental demons instructed him to give more to the rich now and screw the middle class. He hushed his views on torture, and he even voted against his own immigration bill. What kind of nut votes against his own bill?

McCain knew that he could not win an election against a strong leader like Obama. McCain knew his 26years in the senate was a career of accomplishing nothing that ordinary folks care about. The only way McCAin could win is running a smear campaign just like his buddy George w. Bush, and a lot of hail marry passes. The first pass was when he picked Sarah Palin in some shallow attempt to appeal to women. McCain know he hates women. As mentioned earlier, this is the man that abandoned his first wife in her time of need for a drug addict. This is the man that called his new wife a "C*nt". Just like he abandoned his wife, McCain was going to soldier on in his campaign to abandon America. He stuck with the unqualified and radical Palin.

The Palin plan was not enough, and neither was McCains despicable campaign full of lies. McCain was falling in the polls fast and he knew the debate could finish him. After having the worst attendance record in the Senate, McCain finally decided to head to washington and postpone the debate. Obama and the rest of america saw McCain sit in Washington like a potted plant. They know this as a scandal. Under enormous pressure McCain returned to lose the debate.

Polls started falling even faster. Americans started learning about his campaign manager receiving checks for $15000 every month from Fannie and Freddie. Mccain could now longer hide his shady connections,his disastrous medical records, or his bimbo VP pick from the public. His VP had to debate, so the strategy became simple: just dont have her debate at all. Palin went up on stage and read he stump speech full of great sounding rhetoric. However, it was only an illusion to cover up McCains plans to tax health care benefits, keep our country in a never ending state of war and destroy the middle class. This is the story of Keating McCain. You might as well call it the story of Satin himself.


Posted by: OB1Kinobi | October 7, 2008 8:41 PM


From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/fear-and-loathing-in-town-hall.html

Tuesday, October 07, 2008
Fear and Loathing in the Town Hall: A Predictive Fantasy

(The camera looks at the hall from above, into the hall, from the POV of the stage. Red meat has been hung from the walls and rafters, along with dollar bills which, upon closer inspection, are Monopoly money.

The crowd is seated. They are strangely quiet. Their manner is that between those who are waiting for their instructions, post-op surgical recoverees, and post-war survivors. They are slightly slumped, in the same posture.

The candidates enter from opposite sides of the rear of the stage and walk to their podiums. The crowd rises as one and cheers with a loud, aggressive fervor reflective of their desperation.
Obama is standing tall in stride, looking a bit overcome by the experience, although genuine. McCain is smiling--his cheerful public grimace, although there is some genuine pleasure. His eyes have the slightest glaze of a gradually oncoming fog.)

MODERATOR: Tonight is a different format--one where you, the public, can ask your questions directly to the candidates. None of the questions have been screened in advance, and the candidates have been given no advance notice of what the questions, or who the questioners, might be. And with that, we begin. Our first question:

CITIZEN 1: My name is Jan, I'm from Murfreesboro? I've been watching the news, and I'm scared. I can't say that I've listened much about the stock market before? But I know that it's going down, and that's bad. I don't know what's going to happen to my job, or my house, or my kids. My question is for Mr. McCain? What will you do to help us understand what is going on, and to make it clear just what you will do about it?

(Crowd applauds vigourously as Jan sits down with a bit of embarassment).

MCCAIN: (Holding the top of the rostrum with both hands and smiling): Well, first, I want to welcome each of you here tonight. You know, I know what each of you are feeling. I think that each of you must be scared--as I am, of not verifying myself in my father's and my grandfather's eyes. But, that's not so important today--or, at least saying it isn't. What is most important is to appear that I understand an economy that just months ago I said that I had little understanding of at all. I want to win. I need it, frankly, as a way of overcoming my own personal horrors and demons, of overcoming the anger that was bestowed and thrust, unwillingly, upon me. And that's why I'm still willing, even as the sharpest edges of mental function fade, to propel myself through this mass of insult. I understand how to respond to insult. With anger. And impulse. And that's what I'll bring to the White House, come January of 2009.

(Crowd applauds vigorously)

MODERATOR: The next question is for Senator Obama.

CITIZEN 2: Thanks. My name is Ross, from Shreveport. First-time caller, long-time listener. My question is: Senator Obama, it's not an error that you were given the middle name "Barack". We know that that is the same name of the murderous. Communist leader of Iran--and that's no accident. (A slight murmur from the crowd. The moderator looks vaguely stunned, but does not interrupt). Now, when you were going to Russia, with Bill Ayers, and dodging the draft--just like William Jefferson Clinton--(speaking more quickly now, more aggressively, turning to the crowd)--why weren't you here at home, saving our banks from the Liberals and the Socialists who want to take our money away from us and just give it to the terrorists?

SARAH PALIN: (Poking her head out from the wings, with a big smile): You betcha'!

(She withdraws).

OBAMA: Well. First of all, I also want to welcome you all here tonight. You know, I know that this is a difficult time. Many of you are worried about your jobs, your families, your homes. There are times that test a man's soul, and every woman's as well. And I know that this may be one of those times. I can understand why you would be frightened, even angry at what this nation has done. But we are a nation that has risen up in adversity even in the best of times, we found our strength, and honor, and courage, our ability to work as one, when faced with the most difficult situations. And I want to call on each of you, in that spirit of patriotic sacrifice, to join with me in that effort in the days ahead.

(Silence. Then applause, as the recognition of actual thought begins to spread through the crowd. It swells, and finally, subsides).

MODERATOR: The next question is for Senator McCain.

CITIZEN 3 (He is a man who appears to be in his early 40's wearing blue jeans that are stiff and obviously brand-new. They are perfectly creased. He is wearing a tight fitting, also obviously new T-Shirt that says "Average American...And Black With Rage!" beneath which is an American flag. He is wearing black wing-tip shoes. ). Senator McCain, I'm just an average American, just an average Joe, just your Average Joe-Sixpack (Blackberry begins ringing)...Oh...
excuse me...just...a...sec...my boss's phone...(whispering tensely into phone:) "No...I said sell. Sell. Yes, the entire portfolio. No, not Ghanan timber, for god's sake, gold, the lot of it. Jesus H....(tucks Blackberry back into pants pocket and then readjusts his stance to that of average Joe, slumping to one side again and changing his voice back to it's original tenor). Like I said, just an average Joe Sixpack. And I'm wonderin'. I heard what Mr. Hussein just said about "rising up", and I'm wonderin' if that's exactly what he wants to do! Oh, sure, he wants us to band together to rise up--where have we heard that before? Socialists! That's what they do! (crowd begins to murmur, and in the rising heat, the smell of the fresh meat begins to waft faintly through the hall). Rise up! That's what he wants to do! Well, we need to rise up! Against those kind of Socialist, Communist, Fascist, Atheist, Marxist policies! (the crowd is talking, some nodding their heads). And so what I want to ask you, Sen. McCain (crowd quiets), as an average everyday American, is this: What is it like, being a fighter pilot and all, when you know that Barack Hussein was out there, palling around with his Communist friends?

MCCAIN: Well, my friend--and by that, I mean that all of you are my friends--I'm glad you asked. Not everyone has had the luxury of gaining an education merely on the basis of their own talent, or the opportunity to travel the world learning how to be separate from important family members without their having significant pull, or to be able to experience the variety of foods that one has the chance to consume when they are paid for by the State. And, I can say that, in that way, I haven't been quiet as lucky. But I will say this--I will not look such fortune in the face and say: 'Fine, I'll work on education with the Bill Ayers of this world', "I'll be at the top of my class at Harvard", when I can be down, down there with you at the bottom! I know what it's like to be at the bottom when I've had all the opportunities--and I want to share that experience with those of you who have had none. You're angry. I'm angry. We have that in common. Let's be angry together, satisfied that, for another for four years, we've put those who have the arrogance to think for extended periods in their place, content in knowing that we're right--even if we're wrong.

CITIZEN 4: Hiya. My name is George, from Midland, altho' some would say Kennebunkport, heh, heh. I have a question for ya, John, and it's this. Listen: I'm goin' to be out of a job soon. Oil futures aren't lookin' that good, and I've got to tell ya', I didn't have too much luck there in the first place. So I'd like to ask ya, one flyin' man to another--what do you think I oughta do?

PALIN: (emerges from wings with purposeful strides to McCain's podium): I've got to take this one, John. Mr. Bush, if you can't figure out what you want to do after you leave and we move in, take a little time off, and then you come right up to Alaska. They love hunting just like you--and you can fly, you can learn to do it from a plane! The pipeline's big enough for any number of mistakes. So you come up here when you're finished--we've got plenty of bars with plenty of bowls of nuts and plenty of televisions right on Wasiila Main street--we'll take care of you right!

(Bush smiles and sits, crowd applauds, Palin, smiling and waving, exits).

CITIZEN 5: Well, look. This is a serious question. I'm John, from Carpenter. It's for both of you. I've got two kids, 4 and 6, a boy and a girl--so sweet. You know. My wife, she was working for the WaMu branch, center of town. It's closing next week. She's been looking in the ads, the newspapers, online--nothing. It's all she can do to keep a smile on her face for the kids. Myself, I built a commerical trucking business from the ground up. Sixteen years. Sweat everyday, grease on my hands, I can never get it out. We were never rich, but I made a good living. I didn't know about investing--who does, you're not born with it! Anyway, I went to an investment advisor, it seemed like the safe thing to do, protect the kids, plan for the future, not use my own dumb head (smiles). Well, he was so smart, and he was so sure, and he had it all planned out. And it looked so impressive on paper. Now--all of a sudden--it's gone. Everything is changing. It's changing so quickly. It seems like nobody--nobody knew. Not even the people who were supposed to! Everybody was talkin', makin noise, thinkin' of one thing: Themselves, themselves, themselves. Never worrying to think about someone else, about the future, about the next moment.

Well, now the next moment is here. And I wanna know--what are the two of you really gonna do about it?

(The room is quiet as his last word echoes in the hall. The raw meat is rocking, slowly in the air, and the paper bills are gently fluttering). You can see Palin in profile, standing in the wings, holding her chin in her hand. The two candidates stare straight ahead, holding the podium. They are silent).

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/fear-and-loathing-in-town-hall.html

Posted by: caraprado1 | October 7, 2008 8:38 PM

""Obama is a terrorist"

One wonders when Palin will stop beating around the bush.....drop the N word on Obama, call him a Muslim terrorist, and urge all Americans to reject this communist/terrorist/Islamist.

Come on Sarahcudda, you know you want to use these words, while winking at that redneck in overalls in the front row with tabacky juice running down his chin.

Meanwhile the secret service has begun investigating who shouted out "kill him" at a rally Palin was inciting yesterday.

The SS tends to take protecting the POTUS seriously and Obama may very well end up in the WH in a few short months.

Posted by: mathas | October 7, 2008 8:37 PM

I am not surprised by the recent shout-outs at Mcsame/Palin rallys.

Several weeks ago I attended the opening of an Obama campaign office in west central Florida. The opening was attended by Lt. General (ret) Claudia Kennedy - the first woman to hold the rank as well as Command Sergeant Major of the Marine Corp, also recently retired.

More than 200 people attended the opening - which surprised me. Lots of older folks and lots of young faces.

Out in the street adjacent to the parking lot was a moron standing in front of a McCain sign - waving a Soviet flag. Like we were all "commies".

These are the desperate folks now showing up at McCain rallys - nut jobs going hysterical at the realization that a black commie pinko socialist muslim radical is going to be elected President.

It was nice to hear passing motorists open their car windows and call him a "F-ing idiot!"

Posted by: toritto | October 7, 2008 8:36 PM

davidscott1:
In your dreams, which are still back in the 70's. Roe vs wade has stood for thiry years and will stand for thiry more.
You have no right to tell a woman what to do with her body. If it's a sin, she'll pay for it in the next life. I'll bet you like to bomb abortion clinics in your spare time don't you? It's a different, more diverse and enlightened country now.
Forget about your good old days,not everybody has to share your beliefs and most don't want anything to do with them.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 8:36 PM

CNN truth squad examined the Ayers accusations and labeled them false.
These falsehoods are old news left over from the primary elections.
Rev. Wright is old news that has been digested and rejected by intelligent swing voters.
Fannie and Freddie corruption claims against Obama backfired squarely in Rick Davis' hypocritical face.

Obama could go after McCain's war record but he knows it's all about jobs for the middle and lower class. The voters are yelling "it's the economy stupid."

McCain doesn't hear them.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:36 PM


From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/fear-and-loathing-in-town-hall.html

Tuesday, October 07, 2008
Fear and Loathing in the Town Hall: A Predictive Fantasy

(The camera looks at the hall from above, into the hall, from the POV of the stage. Red meat has been hung from the walls and rafters, along with dollar bills which, upon closer inspection, are Monopoly money.

The crowd is seated. They are strangely quiet. Their manner is that between those who are waiting for their instructions, post-op surgical recoverees, and post-war survivors. They are slightly slumped, in the same posture.

The candidates enter from opposite sides of the rear of the stage and walk to their podiums. The crowd rises as one and cheers with a loud, aggressive fervor reflective of their desperation.
Obama is standing tall in stride, looking a bit overcome by the experience, although genuine. McCain is smiling--his cheerful public grimace, although there is some genuine pleasure. His eyes have the slightest glaze of a gradually oncoming fog.)

MODERATOR: Tonight is a different format--one where you, the public, can ask your questions directly to the candidates. None of the questions have been screened in advance, and the candidates have been given no advance notice of what the questions, or who the questioners, might be. And with that, we begin. Our first question:

CITIZEN 1: My name is Jan, I'm from Murfreesboro? I've been watching the news, and I'm scared. I can't say that I've listened much about the stock market before? But I know that it's going down, and that's bad. I don't know what's going to happen to my job, or my house, or my kids. My question is for Mr. McCain? What will you do to help us understand what is going on, and to make it clear just what you will do about it?

(Crowd applauds vigourously as Jan sits down with a bit of embarassment).

MCCAIN: (Holding the top of the rostrum with both hands and smiling): Well, first, I want to welcome each of you here tonight. You know, I know what each of you are feeling. I think that each of you must be scared--as I am, of not verifying myself in my father's and my grandfather's eyes. But, that's not so important today--or, at least saying it isn't. What is most important is to appear that I understand an economy that just months ago I said that I had little understanding of at all. I want to win. I need it, frankly, as a way of overcoming my own personal horrors and demons, of overcoming the anger that was bestowed and thrust, unwillingly, upon me. And that's why I'm still willing, even as the sharpest edges of mental function fade, to propel myself through this mass of insult. I understand how to respond to insult. With anger. And impulse. And that's what I'll bring to the White House, come January of 2009.

(Crowd applauds vigorously)

MODERATOR: The next question is for Senator Obama.

CITIZEN 2: Thanks. My name is Ross, from Shreveport. First-time caller, long-time listener. My question is: Senator Obama, it's not an error that you were given the middle name "Barack". We know that that is the same name of the murderous. Communist leader of Iran--and that's no accident. (A slight murmur from the crowd. The moderator looks vaguely stunned, but does not interrupt). Now, when you were going to Russia, with Bill Ayers, and dodging the draft--just like William Jefferson Clinton--(speaking more quickly now, more aggressively, turning to the crowd)--why weren't you here at home, saving our banks from the Liberals and the Socialists who want to take our money away from us and just give it to the terrorists?

SARAH PALIN: (Poking her head out from the wings, with a big smile): You betcha'!

(She withdraws).

OBAMA: Well. First of all, I also want to welcome you all here tonight. You know, I know that this is a difficult time. Many of you are worried about your jobs, your families, your homes. There are times that test a man's soul, and every woman's as well. And I know that this may be one of those times. I can understand why you would be frightened, even angry at what this nation has done. But we are a nation that has risen up in adversity even in the best of times, we found our strength, and honor, and courage, our ability to work as one, when faced with the most difficult situations. And I want to call on each of you, in that spirit of patriotic sacrifice, to join with me in that effort in the days ahead.

(Silence. Then applause, as the recognition of actual thought begins to spread through the crowd. It swells, and finally, subsides).

MODERATOR: The next question is for Senator McCain.

CITIZEN 3 (He is a man who appears to be in his early 40's wearing blue jeans that are stiff and obviously brand-new. They are perfectly creased. He is wearing a tight fitting, also obviously new T-Shirt that says "Average American...And Black With Rage!" beneath which is an American flag. He is wearing black wing-tip shoes. ). Senator McCain, I'm just an average American, just an average Joe, just your Average Joe-Sixpack (Blackberry begins ringing)...Oh...
excuse me...just...a...sec...my boss's phone...(whispering tensely into phone:) "No...I said sell. Sell. Yes, the entire portfolio. No, not Ghanan timber, for god's sake, gold, the lot of it. Jesus H....(tucks Blackberry back into pants pocket and then readjusts his stance to that of average Joe, slumping to one side again and changing his voice back to it's original tenor). Like I said, just an average Joe Sixpack. And I'm wonderin'. I heard what Mr. Hussein just said about "rising up", and I'm wonderin' if that's exactly what he wants to do! Oh, sure, he wants us to band together to rise up--where have we heard that before? Socialists! That's what they do! (crowd begins to murmur, and in the rising heat, the smell of the fresh meat begins to waft faintly through the hall). Rise up! That's what he wants to do! Well, we need to rise up! Against those kind of Socialist, Communist, Fascist, Atheist, Marxist policies! (the crowd is talking, some nodding their heads). And so what I want to ask you, Sen. McCain (crowd quiets), as an average everyday American, is this: What is it like, being a fighter pilot and all, when you know that Barack Hussein was out there, palling around with his Communist friends?

MCCAIN: Well, my friend--and by that, I mean that all of you are my friends--I'm glad you asked. Not everyone has had the luxury of gaining an education merely on the basis of their own talent, or the opportunity to travel the world learning how to be separate from important family members without their having significant pull, or to be able to experience the variety of foods that one has the chance to consume when they are paid for by the State. And, I can say that, in that way, I haven't been quiet as lucky. But I will say this--I will not look such fortune in the face and say: 'Fine, I'll work on education with the Bill Ayers of this world', "I'll be at the top of my class at Harvard", when I can be down, down there with you at the bottom! I know what it's like to be at the bottom when I've had all the opportunities--and I want to share that experience with those of you who have had none. You're angry. I'm angry. We have that in common. Let's be angry together, satisfied that, for another for four years, we've put those who have the arrogance to think for extended periods in their place, content in knowing that we're right--even if we're wrong.

CITIZEN 4: Hiya. My name is George, from Midland, altho' some would say Kennebunkport, heh, heh. I have a question for ya, John, and it's this. Listen: I'm goin' to be out of a job soon. Oil futures aren't lookin' that good, and I've got to tell ya', I didn't have too much luck there in the first place. So I'd like to ask ya, one flyin' man to another--what do you think I oughta do?

PALIN: (emerges from wings with purposeful strides to McCain's podium): I've got to take this one, John. Mr. Bush, if you can't figure out what you want to do after you leave and we move in, take a little time off, and then you come right up to Alaska. They love hunting just like you--and you can fly, you can learn to do it from a plane! The pipeline's big enough for any number of mistakes. So you come up here when you're finished--we've got plenty of bars with plenty of bowls of nuts and plenty of televisions right on Wasiila Main street--we'll take care of you right!

(Bush smiles and sits, crowd applauds, Palin, smiling and waving, exits).

CITIZEN 5: Well, look. This is a serious question. I'm John, from Carpenter. It's for both of you. I've got two kids, 4 and 6, a boy and a girl--so sweet. You know. My wife, she was working for the WaMu branch, center of town. It's closing next week. She's been looking in the ads, the newspapers, online--nothing. It's all she can do to keep a smile on her face for the kids. Myself, I built a commerical trucking business from the ground up. Sixteen years. Sweat everyday, grease on my hands, I can never get it out. We were never rich, but I made a good living. I didn't know about investing--who does, you're not born with it! Anyway, I went to an investment advisor, it seemed like the safe thing to do, protect the kids, plan for the future, not use my own dumb head (smiles). Well, he was so smart, and he was so sure, and he had it all planned out. And it looked so impressive on paper. Now--all of a sudden--it's gone. Everything is changing. It's changing so quickly. It seems like nobody--nobody knew. Not even the people who were supposed to! Everybody was talkin', makin noise, thinkin' of one thing: Themselves, themselves, themselves. Never worrying to think about someone else, about the future, about the next moment.

Well, now the next moment is here. And I wanna know--what are the two of you really gonna do about it?

(The room is quiet as his last word echoes in the hall. The raw meat is rocking, slowly in the air, and the paper bills are gently fluttering). You can see Palin in profile, standing in the wings, holding her chin in her hand. The two candidates stare straight ahead, holding the podium. They are silent).

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/fear-and-loathing-in-town-hall.html

Posted by: caraprado1 | October 7, 2008 8:35 PM

"Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.When feds indict him and send to jail thats going to be some game changer"

Well, the feds are sure taking there merry time, considering that I havent even heard anything about an investigation and Rezko's part ownership has been known for years now. Maybe you need a TV with more channels friend.

Posted by: davidscott1 | October 7, 2008 8:33 PM


The only thing we have to fear is losing our jobs. You can quote me.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:31 PM

pro36-

Please, please, we're begging you, get back on your meds.

Posted by: dcwsano | October 7, 2008 8:31 PM

Mypostid7:
"Obama is a terrorist. Why else would terrorists from Syria to Chicago to the Washington Post support and cover for him?"

More rambilings from desperate, paranoid, racist neocons who want a one party country. Your brain must be hurting from such deep thoughts, go take your medication. By tommorow it will be all over for McCain. And there's nothing you can do about it.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 8:29 PM

Anyone who thinks that terrorism can destroy an economy or a nation has only to look at Israel.
They have had heavy burdens to bear and still prosper.
They handle attacks quickly and don't dwell on the negative aspects or live in fear.
They don't waste money or military strength fighting wars where they don't need to be fought.
If a nation stuck in the middle of Islamic
Terrorism can survive and prosper, what does the United States have to fear?
It's the economy, bubba.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:28 PM

to the poster who wrote,
"roe vs wade will not be overturned if McCain is elected."

I wouldnt bet the farm on that. McCain has promised more Justices like Alito and Roberts, and I guarantee you neither of those men -- nor Scalia and Thomas -- think that Roe was correctly decided. Kennedy may not think so either. If McCain sends up a 5th or 6th justice who agrees Roe is wrong, that may or may not mean the Court overrules Roe, but it sure could mean that -- who's to stop them? And I guarantee you a McCain replacement for Justice Stevens would result in rollbacks of environmental and workplace protections and maybe a sweeping right wing revolution on the Court. That is NOT an idle threat. It is very real.

Posted by: davidscott1 | October 7, 2008 8:28 PM

Live Blogging tonight's debate:
http://www.leehernly.com/blog/?p=289

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 7, 2008 8:27 PM

AB writes:

"I am ready for some real change - overturning Roe vs. Wade and a reversal of direction in the downward spiral this country is in concerning marriage and the family. Money and wealth don't make life worth living. All this talk about the economy is a bunch of rot. Anyone who bases their vote on this issue cares more about money than doing what is right and wrong. God will provide for me to take care of my family no matter who gets elected. I am voting my concience, and that shouldn't be getting input from the dollar."


Losing a job, a home to foreclosure, or thousands, perhaps tens or even hundereds of thousands in a retirement fund, is rot ?

How long have you lived in the US ?

I have news for you, overturing Roe, far from certain, will only return "choice", to the states to decide.

God will provide for you ? That'll look good on that loan application.

I'm curious, do you and Palin attend the same church, where that Kenyan witch doctor shouted incantations over her head to ward off the witches ?

Posted by: mathas | October 7, 2008 8:27 PM

"paranoid racist thoughts"thats all u r talking liberals-bunch of scumbags

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 8:26 PM


George Bush senior was business partner and friend of Bin Laden'a brother. Every republican closet you open hides some association with the oil cartel and terrorism.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:25 PM

The NY Times cannot stand the simple truth.

I wonder why. This is what it is

"John McCains own words and deeds are his damnation. And he knows it."
posted 5:07pm EJLima

Posted by: variezn34gm | October 7, 2008 8:24 PM

tommyd60 u retard.Its proven fact.Obama took money from terrorists

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 8:24 PM

With great disappointment, the last couple of days have proven that, at the very least, McCain and Palin are more than willing to capitalize on the racist sentiments of their constituency and may themselves be racists. Game changer? Who knows, but make no mistake, this election is about the heart of American, not the economy. The economy will survive, but America can't survive if it remains bound by 19th Century ideology that sees African Americans as inferior and threatening. I have never been a McCain supporter, but I did respect him...until this week. As for Palin, she is an embarrassment.

Posted by: CharacterCounts | October 7, 2008 8:23 PM

obama tied far more closely to Fannie and Freddie than anybody.This loser Obama and liberal congress guilty as charge

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 8:22 PM

pro36:
"Obama ACCEPTED money from muslim terrorists"

Prove that with something other than your paranoid racist thoughts.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 8:22 PM

I just read this over on armytimes.com

Here is a quote: "The nation’s most prestigious group for Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans released a congressional scorecard on Tuesday that ranks Republican presidential candidate John McCain as having one of the worst voting records when it comes to supporting troops and veterans."

Here is the link:

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/10/military_vets_congress_reportcard_100708/

It is time to end this war and either bring our fighting forces home or focus them on the real enemies in Afghanistan.

McCain brags that he supported the surge that was supposed to give the Iraq government time to get their house in order. It is still not in order and in my eye that means the surge FAILED no matter what kind of spin the media wants to put on it. We still are above pre-surge troop levels! Is that a victory?

John McCain and Sarah Palin use NEGATIVE ATTACK ADS that say Senator Barack Obama voted "against veterans". That is not how the group "Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America" sees it. Does Sarah Palin want to challenge THEIR patriotism as well?

"Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it." [John McCain - 2/21/2000]

Posted by: wunderwood | October 7, 2008 8:22 PM

" TERROIST, KILL HIM, TREASON," ARE RANTS FROM A MCCAIN/PALIN RALLY. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A PRESIDENT THAT WILL BRING POSITIVE CHANGE TO WASHINGTON? OR MORE DISASTER THAN GEORGE W. BUSH? WERE FIGHTING 2 WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN AND MCCAIN THE WARMONGER HE IS WANTS TO START A RACE WAR IN OUR COUNTRY. WE CAN'T LET MCCAIN MAKE OUR COUNTRY WORST THAN BUSH MADE IT.

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 7, 2008 8:21 PM

U liberals missing main point.Obama is the muslim communist with a communist agenda for this country.He is the best body with terrorists.Can we afford such scumbag in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 8:20 PM

Hell, we all fund terrorists everytime we fill up the tank. Forget the small stuff and concentrate on keeping your job.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:20 PM

FlyDiesel,
your candidate is tied far more closely to Fannie and Freddie than Obama in terms of their campaigns. Educate yourself and stop listening to rush limbaugh so much.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 8:19 PM

"FIRST THOUGHTS ON THE DEBATE"

"McCain was clearly in his element tonight as he ruthlessly turned his replies into sharp barbs directed at Obama's terrorist associations and Chicago corruption."
"While Obama held his own on the economy, he was clearly unprepared for the ferocity of the attack on his character. John McCain has reshaped the election to a referendum on Obama"

"REFLECTIONS TWO DAYS AFTER BELMONT"

"Apparently, voters perceived McCain's character assassination as just one more
gimmick designed to draw attention from their biggest fear of all - unemployment”

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:17 PM

Unfortunately for John McCain, even if he wins the debate tonight, he is too far behind.

If he wins all of the toss up states, he still wouldn't have enough electoral votes to win (http://www.daytodaypolitics.com/polls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/)

And now it looks like Obama is going to win Virginia (http://www.daytodaypolitics.com/articles/Will_Virginia_Go_Blue.htm)

Posted by: D2Dpoliticsdotcom | October 7, 2008 8:17 PM

Obama ACCEPTED money from muslim terrorists.

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 8:17 PM

"TERROIST, KILL HIM, TREASON," ARE CHEERS FROM A MCCAIN/PALIN RALLY. THATS NOT THE KIND OF CHANGE WE NEED. MCCAIN IS STARTING A RACIAL WAR JUST BECAUSE HE CAN'T BEAT OBAMA ON THE ISSUES. ITS A ANOTHER THING TO BE SAD ABOUT BESIDES OUR ECONOMY GOING TO HELL.

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 7, 2008 8:16 PM

AdrianBennett,
roe vs wade will not be overturned if McCain is elected. As far as all this tralk of economy being rot, tell that to your kids when your have no money to feed and school them after the republicans loot rhe country.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 8:16 PM

Can't the hero carry his own umbrella?

McCain is a freak and Palin is an idiot with her hate speech and incitement of radicals.

Posted by: Schwartz1 | October 7, 2008 8:15 PM

ACCEPTING CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM ASSOCIATES OF KNOWN TERRORISTS?

The Ayers-Weber-McCain connection. Truth? Guilt by Association? We report. YOU Decide!

Arnold R. "Arnie" Weber is a Chicago Annenberg Board Member and Chicago "insider". He was a part of the Nixon White House. Arnie Weber has held other Washington "insider" jobs too. He is a LONGTIME REPUBLICAN DONOR. But get this: Arnie Weber was a BOARD MEMBER of the infamous **CHICAGO ANNNENBERG CHALLENGE** organization, which was founded by known "TERRORIST" Bill Ayers!

Sarah Palin was using "guilt by association". This, however, is a two way street but Gov. Palin may not understand this.

NEW INFORMATION SHOWS THAT JOHN MCCAIN HAS ACCEPTED "TAINTED" CAMPAIGN MONEY FROM ARNIE WEBER, AN ASSOCIATE OF BILL AYERS.

Arnie Weber has given the maximum legal amount of $1,500 to the McCain campaign in 2008. He probably would have given more if allowed by law. In 2008, Arnie Weber made two separate donations of $1,000 and $500 to McCain’s presidential campaign run by EX-LOBBYIST AND WASHINGTON INSIDER RICK DAVIS.

I demand that Senator McCain denounce this man, Arnie Weber, and his associations to "terrorists" (as defined by his vice-president, Sarah Palin). I call on Senator McCain to reject these tainted donations. John McCain should then investigate how such a thing could possibly happen inside HIS OWN CAMPAIGN before seeking to cast stones at Senator Obama. McCain's campaign CEO, RICK DAVIS, needs to explain to the AMERICAN VOTERS his reasons for accepting this dirty money. Are they really that desperate to win this election? Doesn't John McCain still believe in the honor that he felt when defending this country against the enemy in Vietnam where he served as a prisoner of war for years?

THE "LIBERAL MEDIA" SHOULD ASK JOHN MCCAIN WHY HE ACCEPTED THIS TAINTED CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THIS "TERRORIST" ASSOCIATE. Incredible as it may sound, Arnie Weber doesn't even DENY that he ASSOCIATED FOR YEARS with a "KNOWN TERRORIST".

This is probably because he hasn't been asked.

Now for the reality check: It turns out that these types of "facts" are simply BASELESS SMEAR ATTACKS WITH NO MERIT! Attacks like this are meant to distract the uninformed voters near the end of an election. We don't hear about them very often because most candidates have too much integrity to run them. They know that winning an election based on lies is unacceptable. Besides, people want to talk about REAL issues affecting REAL lives, not play a game of "6 degrees of Kevin Bacon".

Random associations are EASY to find. For instance, it turns out that you can trace Obama's FAMILY TREE to both George W. Bush (10th cousins once removed) and Dick Cheney (eighth cousins). Yep! They are legally RELATIVES. This is yet another useless "fact" for Trivial Pursuit lovers, but it is not worthy of any media time in this national election for the greatest country on God's green earth.

If you want some true guilt by association, here is something to find out for yourself. Who said this? Who supports this guy and his political party? "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag."

Guilt by association is an attack on voters and on the electoral process. Voters need to learn about the issues. Governor Palin should apologize for raising this STUPID guilt by association tactic against Senator Obama. And if she REALLY believes what she is saying, she REALLY should demand that they return "Arnie" Weber's campaign donations. Seriously. To do anything short of that would be blatant hypocrisy.

"Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future or you're not ready to articulate it." [John McCain - The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer - 2/21/2000]

Posted by: wunderwood | October 7, 2008 8:15 PM

Obama is the muslim communist with a communist agenda for this great country.Do we need the muslim communist in OUR WH?

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 8:14 PM

I'm not interested in the change Mccain brings. At Obama/Biden rally's you hear the people cheering Hope, Change, and Obama. At a Mccain/Palin rally you hear cheers of Terroist, Kill Him, and Treason. I don't think the the country is ready for a president who embraces the thought of Terroist, Kill Him, and Treason. We are fighting 2 wars and losing 1 of them, theres no need to start fighting in our own back yard. Mccain is worst than Bush. OBAMA/BIDEN O8

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 7, 2008 8:13 PM

Game changer?
Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.When feds indict him and send to jail thats going to be some game changer

Posted by: pro36 | October 7, 2008 8:13 PM

ONE WORD ANSWER NO!

Posted by: pedraza1 | October 7, 2008 8:10 PM

McCain is showing ominous signs of how power has corrupted his mind.
Over the past few days Sarah Palin has incited crowds to dangerous levels of hatred usually seen at K.K.K. meetings.
She openly attacked the press as if it was somehow Un-American in questioning her.
After one rally in Clearwater reporters were harassed by the crowd.
McCain elicited one response of "Terrorist"
during a town hall meeting.
The Palin crowd said "kill him" referring to Obama.
This same ugly strategy has been employed by every dictator in modern times. Fear, Intimidation of the press and False Patriotism were Mussolini’s tools. Hitler used these and race hatred as well.

Posted by: seemstome | October 7, 2008 8:10 PM

"stock market down 500 today, 5000 since oct of 2007"

Oh, you mean since Bush became a toothless lame duck and Democrats took over both houses of Congress? All hell broke lose due to Democrats forcing lenders to make bad loans and blocking Fannie/Freddie reforms in both houses? Despite the very Democrats claiming to 'fix' the problem having gone on record defending Fannie/Freddie, and taking huge campaign contributions, the largest by the Banking Chairman Dodd, closely followed by Obama? Gee, I wonder what went wrong...

Posted by: FlyDiesel | October 7, 2008 8:07 PM

Game changer?
At this point in the 2000 and 2004 elections, Bush was supposed to lose both times according to the media. The media's spin and bias is quite evident and we should all know that it is full of it.
Race turns nasty? Obama's been nasty since the prelims with Clinton. And the media thinks that McCain's rising political nature is some kind of novel phenomenon? Supporters of Obama should really look deeply into who the guy is and reevaluate what a lie is. The mainstream media won't tell you because the truth is all anti-Obama. [Hint: don't depend on Clinton to tell you what is means.]

Posted by: TL40 | October 7, 2008 8:05 PM

Who is William Ayers?
William Ayers was a radical who opposed a stupid war in a far away land where John McCain flew 23 bombing runs before he was shot down. Wonder how many innocent civilians died on the ground in those bombing runs. Any one wondered?It was a stupid war which ended in humiliation of American armed forces with over 50,000 troops dead and more than a million Vietnamese dead.
This is the same John McCain who along with the Bush administration threw dust into the eyes of the American people and asked us to launch a war based on fabricated intelligence. Remember Colin Powell showing fabricated intelligence of WMDs at UN which were never found?This is the same John McCain who would want us to be in Iraq for a 100 years, and would happily bomb bomb Iran.By God, the worst hell is reserved for those who value non American lives cheaper than American lives. Pray for your redemption before the day of judgement you conservative thugs who have stolen America. Your time has come to an end. Nov 4 th is the day of judgement. The Republican thugs will be thrown out of the White House.

Posted by: judgewisely | October 7, 2008 8:04 PM

stock market down 500 today, 5000 since oct of 2007.almost 1 million jobs lost in a year 11 trillion national debt, 600 billion deficet and you want to print something one of the keating 5 said or a gov. who refuses to testify after her and her husband were issued sup..i am voting for obama..i am tired of the trickle down economics reagan started..taking money from social security..running up the national debt..the national debt was only 1 trillion when reagan was elected reagan increased it..bush 1 increased it..clinton lowered it and bush 2 just sent it to the moon..no mccain/palin for me..and i'm in a swing state.

Posted by: thailandjames1 | October 7, 2008 8:01 PM

It's a small wonder that the Challenge was originally funded by a Republican; it's hard to find a Democrat who gives their own time and money to anything, preferring to confiscate money from the evil rich. And what did The One accomplish in his 6 years on the board, 4 as the founding chairman? Pretty much nothing, according to this report from the Challenge itself:

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge: Successes, Failures, and Lessons for the Future. Final Technical Report of the Chicago Annenberg Research Project.
Authors: Smylie, Mark A.; Wenzel, Stacy A.

This report, from the Challenge itself, says there was no positive achievement. That's because the metrics didn't look at the actual Ayers-inspired goals, lovingly carried forth by The One on behalf of his mentor. Under His Divine Leadership, the Challenge gave zip, not, nadda to the academic improvements Annenberg sought; they gave nothing to hard science proposals, language proposals (didn't The One chastise Americans for not learning another language, although he doesn't speak one himself?), or anything else having to do with the kind of achievement the Challenge promoted and later attempted to measure. No, under Ayers and Obama's efforts, the Challenge was perverted exclusively towards using $100M for radicalizing school children, who gained no measurable academic benefit whatsoever for the expenditure.

Posted by: FlyDiesel | October 7, 2008 8:01 PM

McCain will lose tonight's debate.

If he comes out swinging, going all Rezko, Wright and Ayers, he looks like a mean tempered old man(the Dow fell 500 points today Senator, know one cares about some 60s hippy with an ax to grind against this country) .

If he comes out and tries the touchy feely, I feel you pain approach, he looks as phony as a three dollar bill.

Obama will play it cool, keep his head, take a few shots and in a few days, be even further ahead in the polls.

You read it here first !

Posted by: mathas | October 7, 2008 8:01 PM

Live blogging tonight's debate here...
http://www.leehernly.com/blog/?p=289

Posted by: leeh11281 | October 7, 2008 8:00 PM

Vietnam - 58,000 dead....for nothing.

Kids mostly - drafted off the streets, given a few months Basic and dropped in a far away place to "kill commies".

My bedroom set is marked "Made in Vietnam"

We "honor" them on a black wall....better that they should still be with us....

"Top Gun" Mcsame has learned nothing ...

Posted by: toritto | October 7, 2008 7:59 PM

Hello from Nashville, Tennessee.

I am voting for John McCain. Unless you support partial birth abortions as Obama does, you should too. I would rather be living on bread and water in a country that values life, than feasting at a table with those who agree to murder the unborn. I am ready for some real change - overturning Roe vs. Wade and a reversal of direction in the downward spiral this country is in concerning marriage and the family. Money and wealth don't make life worth living. All this talk about the economy is a bunch of rot. Anyone who bases their vote on this issue cares more about money than doing what is right and wrong. God will provide for me to take care of my family no matter who gets elected. I am voting my concience, and that shouldn't be getting input from the dollar.

Posted by: AdrianBennett | October 7, 2008 7:59 PM

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago.

That was from the NY Times on the day this Country was attacked! 9/11/2001

Posted by: edgeco1

On! the! day! of! Sept 11th!?
I! didn't! know! that!
What! a! horrible! man!

I! guess! I! need! to! vote! Palin/McCain!
(Please note that Palin is on top)

dear edgeco1, how many people did William Ayers kill?
How many did Bush kill?
How many did McCain's spud bud Kissinger killed?

ANSWER:
A hell of a lot more than Ayers, by the ten thousand fold.


Oh, but they killed Timorese, or Iraqis, or Vietnamese, or Chileans... They are real people.

28 more days!!!!!!!!

Posted by: edlharris | October 7, 2008 7:58 PM

This article seriously compares the stupid ageism comment about McCain yelling to get off the lawn with the serious complaint that Obama began his political career in the home of one of America's most notorious home grown enemies.

This smacks of more of the same glossing over of Obama's record that the former journalists--now political partisans of the American media.

There is no excuse good enough for courting the support of Bill Ayers and his wife. Obama is a terrorist. Why else would terrorists from Syria to Chicago to the Washington Post support and cover for him?

Posted by: Mypostid7 | October 7, 2008 7:54 PM

McCain is still fighting Vietnam.

One minute he was top-gunning those "commie gooks" in their cities and rice paddies and the next he was in a prison camp for five and a half years. He's lucky they didn't kill him on the spot. After all, that's what he was doing to them.

I'm sure he came home wondering how did we "lose"? After all, we had all the fire power, the carriers, the aircraft, the men, the economics - we were the "super power". I'm sure he thinks we lost because we didn't have the "guts" to pursue "victory". We were "betrayed" by those nasty "librals" "Stabbed in the back" so to speak. O

f course we all now know (except maybe for John) that a "commie" Vietnam was no danger to the United States; that their war was one of nationalism vs. colonialism. They fought the French colonialists, then their American successors.

My bedroom set is marked "Made in Vietnam" and American corporations are pouring in for the cheap labor. No labor unions in a commie country you know.

McCain now seeks "victory" in Iraq. He hasn't learned what the Vietnamese knew all along - eventually you will go home. The Iraqis know it. Absent permanent occupation (not a good idea) the Iraqis will rule themselves.

Iraq is a history of coup and counter-coup; of Kings and strongmen. It will be thus after we are gone. I give the government maybe 5 years. Iraq is not a "nation" in the western sense. It was drawn on a map by the British and French after dismenbering the Ottoman Empire. France got modern Syria and Lebanon; the Brits got Iraq, Jordan and the Palestine Mandate (lucky them). Neither country cared exactly who lived within the new borders.

The Ottomans ruled Iraq as three "provinces" one each for Sunni, Shia and Kurd. They were smarter than Johnny McCain will ever be.

Only neo-con morons would think that a Jeffersonian democracy was going to spring up like Venus from the sea. On the other hand maybe they only wanted the oil.

Posted by: toritto | October 7, 2008 7:52 PM

I pray that the security for presidential candidates are tight, particularly for Barrack Obama. Abe Lincoln, Martin Luther King, JFK, Robert Kennedy were victims of extremist. The common denominator? They are all independent,moderate thinkers most disliked by the shadowy power/manipulator inside and outside the government circle. It is very easy to manipulate Palin, but less so with McCain, Obama and Bidden.

Posted by: nagamas1 | October 7, 2008 7:51 PM

As was the case in 2004, the Republicans can count on some last minute aid by Bin Laden. A tape or some other act to help them in the polls. Al Qaeda knows that the Republicans have done more harm to America in the past 8 years than Al Qaeda could have done in a hundred - and they would be delighted to see another pack of bumbling Republican fools in office which they could once more play like a violin.

Bush could also start a nuclear war in the mid-east. Bush might find this preferable to having Obama's attorney general pouring over his declassified records.

Posted by: MorganaLeFay | October 7, 2008 7:48 PM

I voted for Republican presidents in every election since 1972. But today's Republican party is not my party any more. The only thing they represent is fear, hatred, and obscene wealth. They are against housing the homeless, feeding the hungry, and healing sick children. John McCain and Frau Palin are beneath contempt. Sarah Palin represents the worst that that this country can produce. She is a hyena in a skirt. Their gutter politics are typical of a bankrupt political philosophy that drifted away from reality in 1980 with RR. I've had enough of these people lying to me and then stealing me blind so their rich contributors can own houses in the Hamptons.

Posted by: caebling | October 7, 2008 7:48 PM

Game changer? He's a B-teamer on his best day. Propped up the machine, about to fall on his tushy, in a historically poorly run campaign.

Posted by: robertell | October 7, 2008 7:42 PM

Who is William Ayers?
William Ayers was a radical who opposed a stupid war in a far away land where John McCain flew 23 bombing runs before he was shot down. Wonder how many innocent civilians died on the ground in those bombing runs. Any one wondered?It was a stupid war which ended in humiliation of American armed forces with over 50,000 troops dead and more than a million Vietnamese dead.
This is the same John McCain who along with the Bush administration threw dust into the eyes of the American people and asked us to launch a war based on fabricated intelligence. Remember Colin Powell showing fabricated intelligence of WMDs at UN which were never found?This is the same John McCain who would want us to be in Iraq for a 100 years, and would happily bomb bomb Iran.By God, the worst hell is reserved for those who value non American lives cheaper than American lives. Pray for your redemption before the day of judgement you conservative thugs who have stolen America. Your time has come to an end. Nov 4 th is the day of judgement. The Republican thugs will be thrown out of the White House.

Posted by: judgewisely | October 7, 2008 7:41 PM

America is a great country !!!

Take it from non other than Bill Ayers who said, when he was freed on a technicality:

“Guilty as hell, free as a bird—America is a great country”

By the way. How did he become a tenured "distinguished" professor of education.

Daddy's money ?? Chicago corruption ??

Is he going to be our next Sec. of Education ???

Posted by: ssb46 | October 7, 2008 7:41 PM

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago.

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 7:41 PM

Does McCain lose because he's angry and combative or win because he's "full of vigor" and "ready to challenge Obama on any topic"?

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | October 7, 2008 7:40 PM

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Bill Ayers said. ''I feel we didn't do enough.'' Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970's as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago.

That was from the NY Times on the day this Country was attacked! 9/11/2001

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 7:39 PM

If the pace of bad news in the last 8 years wasn't enough to capture everyone's attention, the freefall of recent financial events surely must have. For anyone affiliated with the administration of the sorriest 8 years in our country's history in my lifetime, losing in anything but a landslide should be considered a small victory. I'd start working on my concession speech Sen. McCain.

Posted by: cb1231 | October 7, 2008 7:38 PM

We have been hearing since Reagan that "Government is the problem"; that government should get "out of the way"; that the private sector can always do it better and cheaper. If one has this philosophy then it is natural to undermine government; to get it "out of the way". Conservatives since Reagan have systematically undermined the efficacy of the government by gutting any agency which it views as "standing in the way". You appoint "your guys" no matter how incompetent; you oust the professionals; you gut their budgets. You oppose anything which might "impede" the private sector corporations - consumer protections; food inspections; road and bridge inspection; financial regulations. You politicize the Justice Department, so that it finds nothing, even torture, objectionable. Anti-trust enforcement becomes non-existent. You never lift a voice or use the bully pulpit against corporations shipping jobs wholesale overseas. Our retailers buy their inventory from China and you ship them our money, never insisting that China adjust its foreign exchange rate. Then you borrow the money back from China to plug our budget deficit, caused by corporate tax cuts and cuts for the top 1% of Americans. You ship the borrowed money to our oil suppliers and oppose any effort to reduce dependency by seeking alternative renewable sources of fuel. After all, you're an oil man. You start an unnecessary war costing hundreds of billions of dollars much of it going to favored construction companies doing work shoddy enough to electrocute ten soldiers in their showers. Hired thugs masquerading as "security details" rake in more of the money, answering to no one. You "rebuild" Iraq (which we never had to destroy anyway) while the Iraqis have almost $80 billion in the bank. You shred the Constitution, abridge habeas corpus. You get elected by selling your "values" while robbing the country blind. You never talk about economics. You always scare the voters with the next bogeyman around the corner. When the media disagrees with you, you attack it as "unfair" with "liberal bias". You start your own propaganda media outlets that parrot the party line. You take the country into a permanent state of war with a volunteer army - a state so permanent no one even notices it anymore as they go to the mall. You ask nothing from them but their acquiescence. "Just go shopping folks!" You want to spend a trillion dollars to rescue the financial sector, run up a half a trillion dollar budget deficit and still spew nonsense about "small government, deregulation and lower taxes". We are witnessing the impoverishment of America. ....and this Grand Old Party (remember it?) wants four more years.

Posted by: toritto | October 7, 2008 7:37 PM

No game change: Mc Cain's toast. I hope he is nice and runs a better race from here on out. Dignity is all he has left.

Posted by: crrobin | October 7, 2008 7:37 PM

I made a nice video for Barack Obama at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MBrFWuKkWQ

Obama 2008. God bless USA.

Posted by: wembakoy | October 7, 2008 7:37 PM

How have the Chicago schools done?

THEY SUCK! That was money well spent Osama!

edge.

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 7:34 PM

Obama WON!

Everyone can go home.
That will be the message, and in reality his force beat the system!

He has reporters with the AP, the NYTimes, all of the main stream press.

The only reason that it is close at all is because they are incompetent...as is Obama!
WHY is this race close? Ooooops I mentioned RACE! 95% if blacks vote for Osama and that is OK, but if ONE white female Hillary supporter votes for McCain and that is racial!

Vote for Osama, you get what you deserve.

edge.

Posted by: edgeco1 | October 7, 2008 7:32 PM

OOPS!!!!

Someone should tell Sarah that it was a REPUBLICAN CHARITY that both Obama and Ayers worked on.

Check out Mr. Annenberg on Wikipedia. Staunch conservative. Friends with Reagan and Nixon, served in Republican administrations.

Reagan's buddy Annenberg must not have been too worried about Ayers, cuz he gave him 50 MILLION DOLLARS to try innovative education programs in Chicago schools.

Better get busy finding your next smear....

Meanwhile, how's your 401(k) looking. Mine has "Wal Mart Greeter" retirement written all over it.

Time to take our country back. 01/20/09-Hope Takes Over

Posted by: ladyvet | October 7, 2008 7:30 PM

Man, the racist neocons are really losing it...
LMAO

Posted by: BFranco | October 7, 2008 7:30 PM

If the Republicans think something is bad it must be good. Their anti-regulation, anti-intelligence, anti-education, by-the-seat of the pants strategy is what got us into this mess!

NO CADAVERICK!

Posted by: newyorkliberal | October 7, 2008 7:28 PM

Here's how he can really change the game in tonight's debate. And I mean really, really change it. See Writing Frontier's piece on this at

http://writingfrontier.com/2008/10/04/thats-not-debatable/

Posted by: jheubusch | October 7, 2008 7:27 PM

Considering that it's Tennessee and that mccain and palin have been whipping the wingnut base into a frenzy all day I hope they have tightened security for the debate tonight.

Posted by: Ami_Blue | October 7, 2008 7:27 PM

I want to thank Mr. Milbank for writing about the atmosphere being stoked at Palin's rallies. I hope the media will not be intimidated. Your article, Mr. Milbank, may even save lives, as the violence Palin is stirring will not be as controllable as she may (or may not) think. Who knows if she is conscious what a force for evil she is becoming? It is the past fighting to survive, when someone who thinks about the future comes along.

Posted by: claudia2 | October 7, 2008 7:27 PM

Volcano McMoron is a 72-year-old idiot who kills a million Iraqis to steal their oil. Republicans should put Ray Hunt and Dick Cheney on their bloody war profits. McMoron told you Republicans he's killing your kids for oil contracts. If you still vote for these madmen after all they've done to my country, you are driving the last oily nail in our collective coffin, albeit your OIL NAZI spying government won't allow it to be photographed! Vote Obama and take pity on yourselves!!

Posted by: rhyer | October 7, 2008 7:26 PM

It's bad enough that McCain has knuckled under to the same people (Bush/Karl Rove) who trashed his family so bad in 2000 that, according to his wife, his adopted daughter was in tears. John McCain won't even stand up for his own family, and he doesn't have the guts to look Obama in the eye. McCain learned the wrong lessons from the 2000 GOP primary, thinking that all he had to do was win a race to the bottom in order to win the highest office in the country. Now, he's a prisoner of the same people who abused him before, and he's losing.


John McCain sold his soul and he has nothing to show for it. No wonder he's lashing out.


For all these reasons, the thing to highlight tonight is that John McCain, after bouncing from gimmick to gimmick, is freaking out. John McCain is a desperate loser and tonight, you'll practically be able to smell it. Get the screenshots ready, there'll be YouTube summaries. McCain is going go get nasty and that will be the end of him. He's trapped between needing to lash out and needing to live down his reputation for being a volatile idiot.
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http://www.rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html
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Let McCain beat McCain, all we have to do is keep telling the truth about him and Alaskan Barbie.
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http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/obama_responds_to_mccains_angr.html
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McCain's support has dwindled down to con-men and klansmen.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935.html
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After years of supporting corruption and violence, McCain's career is nearly over, and he's willing to do anything to delay the final verdict. The problems of the country aren't even on McCain's mind. For McCain, it's all about McCain. This election is about crowning his biography.


His campaign and his policies show that John McCain doesn't give a damn about this country.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 7, 2008 7:26 PM

Hey Heads up Former Acron Community Organizer Messiah Barack Hussein Obama's
ACORN Pals,Las Vegas Office has been raided
on charges of VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD!..
Please note ACRON is under investigation for Voter Fraud in 11 States plus the Feds
so Sen John McCain may have just been handed a gift from God,as here again it sure proves what sleazy crook Chicago Shake
Down Artist Con Man Former ACORN Community
Oganizer and Convicted Felon Chicago Slumlord Tony Rezko and Terrorist Ayers
Pal really is here people! Rezko is reported to be singing like a bird to the
Federal Proscuetors about Obama's Role in
Chicago Corruption so Obama has just got a
Huge October Surprise handed him and that
will destory that scumbag Obama hopes of
ever being elected President or even local
Chicago Dog Catcher after Obama goes to
jail very soon! NOBAMA NOW OR EVER!

Posted by: sandylong5274 | October 7, 2008 7:24 PM

AMERICA IS IN DANGER!

OBAMA’S POLITICAL CAREER STARTED WITH HIS AFFILIATION WITH WILLIAM AYERS AND BERNARDINE DOHRN, THE UNREPENTANT TERRORISTS ... part of “The Weathermen” terrorist group which launched a campaign to bomb" the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol. In the 90’s, both “Community Organizers” Ayers and Obama worked together for years, radicalizing the Chicago school system.

At a 1969 "War Council" in Flint, Michigan, Weatherman leaders Ayer and Bernardine Dohrn proclaimed that the time had come to launch a war against "Amerikkka". The Weather Underground went on to claim credit for some 25 bombings over the next several years, detonating explosives at the rebuilt Haymarket statue, a bathroom at the Pentagon, the Capitol barber shop, the New York City police headquarters, and a variety of other targets.

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH RADICAL EXTREMISTS PUTS AMERICA IN DANGER of being taken over by a group of radical terrorists that would “change” America as Obama has promised;…but the change would be to fulfill the dreams of the Weathermen of overthrowing capitalism and launching a race war against the “white” United States.

AMERICANS OF ALL PARTIES MUST COME TOGETHER AND DEFEND OUR COUNTRY against dangerous terrorists and vote for a True American Patriot, John McCain!

AMERICA FIRST!
JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN

Posted by: Manolete | October 7, 2008 7:24 PM

McCain can't win because he has nothing but contempt for Obama and nothing but fear and hatred to sell. He certainly can't sell the Republican path to peace and prosperity. He can't sell being good on Defense Policy or Fiscal Responsibility or Good Government.

He can have his Alaskan Barbie read snarky comments at rallies but he can't let anyone actually talk to her because she can't speak a coherent sentence. He can challenge the honesty and patriotism of the man who will be the next President but he can't tell us why he represents anything different than the same old same old that Republicans have been selling since Raygun.

01/20/09. The End of an Error.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 7, 2008 7:13 PM

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 7, 2008 7:11 PM

He can change it, he can scowl on top of his sneers and condecension. He can yell and loose his temper and prove to all, he is the negative erratic scrouge that he really is. He can make people know who he really is.

He is under the gun, if Barrack is calm and collected; presidential, it will tick McCain off and he will turn into Mr. Hyde. Then, it is all over for him.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 7, 2008 7:04 PM

If McCain succeeds in destroying Obama tonight, he'll be one step closer to destroying America.

WE CANNOT AFFORD ANY MORE REPUBLICAN INCOMPETENCE!

Posted by: rooster54 | October 7, 2008 6:58 PM

Yeah. He can change it . . . and make it even worse for himself. NO ONE but that psycho base we see at those rallies are interested in this BS. And the psycho base just isn't that many votes.

Posted by: notbuyinganyofit | October 7, 2008 6:55 PM

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