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Questions About Online Controls Follow News of Fake Obama Donors

By Matthew Mosk
The number of fake names attached to Sen. Barack Obama's campaign contributions continues to inch up as news outlets and political researchers page through thousands of pages of donor listings.

Turns out, they're not that hard to come by. New discoveries from a cursory review of the listings include Edrty Eddty, who donated $250 in July 2008 and Es Esh, who gave $325 in July. Esh hailed from this unusual address: "fhdfhdfh, Erial, NJ 08081" Eddty listed his, or perhaps her, employer as "Poiuyttrrewe / Qwertyuio" -- the letters, more or less in order, found on the top line of standard computer keyboards.

The Obama campaign gave all the money from questionable donors back. But the series of news reports uncovering fake contributions is raising eyebrows. How could a system that collects contributions not immediately discover such obviously false names?

"Every campaign faces the challenge of screening and reviewing its contributions," Obama spokesman Ben La Bolt said, in response to that question. "John McCain refunded $1.2 million in contributions during the primaries, some of which was raised by and from foreign nationals -- and we have been aggressive about taking every available step to make sure our contributions are appropriate, updating our systems when necessary."

Campaign finance experts say the notion that someone would donate money under a fake name is not as surprising as it might seem. Some donors don't want to be identified to avoid getting inundated with future requests. Others are pranksters. What has changed is the number of false donors, and that has to do with the dramatic change in the scale of fundraising efforts thanks to the Internet, said Brett Kappel, a Democratic campaign finance lawyer.

"I think it's gotten a lot harder to stop," Kappel said. "Both of these campaigns have raised several orders of magnitude more money over the Internet than any previous campaign. The FEC software can't even handle it, their reports are so large."

At the same time, the anonymity and reach of the Internet have increased the opportunity for foreign national to donate to an American presidential candidate, and that possibility has Republicans, in particular, on edge. The RNC has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission to review Obama's contributions for evidence of foreign influence.

The Associated Press conducted one of the most comprehensive reviews of foreign donors in August. The news outlet identified 6,948 contributions from people who appeared to live outside the United States and who were not obviously in the U.S. military.

The AP contacted 123 of those donors -- in Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Israel, Italy, the Netherlands, South Africa, Spain and Switzerland -- and interviewed them about their citizenship and donations. The review found that Obama's campaign accepted contributions from at least three foreigners.

La Bolt rejects the complaint about possible foreign donors as little more than political mischief, and noted that McCain refunded about $50,000 in donations solicited by Mustafa Abu Naba'a, a Jordanian national who bundled contributions for McCain in concert with a Florida businessman. "Rather than accepting contributions from PACs and Washington lobbyists like John McCain's campaign, our campaign has been fueled by donations from more than 2.5 million Americans who have contributed more than $458 million," La Bolt said.

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How long will it be before something bad happens...

"Suspicious letters sent to Times and to Palm Desert's McCallum Theatre
The letters contained a granular substance that was found to be harmless. The FBI is investigating. A similar letter was sent to a Barack Obama campaign office."

"The envelope was addressed to two Times reporters and bore no return address, said Times Senior Security Manager Larry Belkin. "Save the Babies" was handwritten on the envelope's face, and "Kill All Obama Supporters" was written on the back, Belkin said. Inside was a one-page letter and a light brown granular substance."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-powder12-2008oct12,0,4589753.story

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 12, 2008 12:57 AM

Now that the unfitness of the McCain/Palin ticket has become excruciatingly obvious, we see all kind of hysterics from die hard right wing ideologues and xenophobes who care more about winning than they do about understanding what's best for the country.

Accusations of socialism are more annoying than most of these besieged rants. If removing government from everything is the answer, then we're headed for anarchy. The American government is by the people, and for the people. It's our last defense against the corruption of power and money, but the insatiably powerful want us to abandon our last defense.
There is nothing wrong with using our government to hold the line against tyranny. It's not only patriotic to help people through our democratic process, it is increasingly urgently the right thing to do.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 11, 2008 11:49 PM

Peace9: Amen to that.

Posted by: KittenKlawz | October 11, 2008 11:19 PM

I think we must all be careful not to miss the point.
In politics, nobody is clean.
The points are, what are the candidate's reasons for wanting to be president ?
Will his changes affect your freedoms ?
Will he stabilize the economy or spend more?
Obama seems to want to make a statement about RACE for all time,and advocate for more government run social organizations. McCain is about making the country run better fixing what is in place already without getting personal with people.
Obamas changes might affect our freedoms here by injecting ideology into social programs and education indirectly - the AYERS way. Freedom, dont' forget ,means we can prefer things our way - our choices of health care, educational venues, national/ethnic personal preferences for marriage & friendship, etc. In other words, WE AGREE TO DISAGREE. This is contrary to the Socialist/Marixt paradigm. This is the reason why Obamas connections are of interest - just what should be learn to be tolerant of ? Race-baiting ? Everlasting White Guilt ? A Grievance lifestyle ?
And finally, I fail to see how increased Government spending on visionary programs that will be run by cronies is going to save us any money. Don't kid yourself, thats what Obama will need to do. And taxing 200,000 and up....most small business make around that amount and additional taxes will kill them and they will have to fire people or close or leave the country. Thats how it will affect "Joe Sixpack"(sorry !)
So, arguing over the details of who smears who is not going to answer the questions of how you feel about the above mentioned ideas. I don't like either of the candidates but McCain seems less opaque and is interested in cutting spending and it is not possible to imagine him as a closet racist whereas with O/M its not clear, they seem outwardly calm but they are conflicted about their allegiances to the betterment of their race or to all people even those they don't like I dont trust them.
Anyway, lets all try to do our part without relying on the GOVT to tell us what to do or to make it easier for us. That is FREEDOM.

Posted by: peace9 | October 11, 2008 8:23 PM

You know anyone who checks Fundrace or Newsmeat to see who their neighbors are supporting always notice that some of their neighbors (for any candidate, although the GOP tends to get more max givers) tend to give far more than allowed by law, and that many max out in the name of their 2 year old and their cat.

Posted by: LeRiverend | October 11, 2008 5:50 PM

See John McCain and Tom Brokaw Cuss at each other, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mng0njC1D6c Guess not to happy about something during the debate.

See more Debate STuff at Debate Schedules, Poles, Videos, Outtakes. watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 11, 2008 4:13 PM

Obama's campaign has been supported by tons of money from the Dark Side of the Force!

This money is as obscure as the Prophet!

Who is behind this rookie and who will control him are the fundamental questions!

Posted by: trace-sc | October 11, 2008 2:40 PM

If this election has proven anything it has proven that you have to get information from sources outside of the partisan arena. In the area of the economy I will give one and on the crisis I will give another.

crisis:
: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0fa9d526-8eec-11dd-946c-0000779fd18c.html
economy:
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127

I am an ordinary citizen with no financial training who has been aware of this potential problem for years. All of the opinions I express have been gleaned from reading sources that are not politically leaning.

From here going forward we the citizens need to insist that the government is not overrun with industry lobbyists. The way this financial crisis has been handled has unfortunately not very good. Mr Paulson hired Morgan Stanley to assist in crisis management. This company had its own problems in the financial environment because it was one of the participants that created it and it had to extricate itself from this mess. Morgan Stanley’s advice was best for Morgan Stanley but not for the total problem.

The logical choice for an advisor would have been someone who was predicting this crisis would occur for it would be that person who would have a handle on what needs to be done to extricate us from the situation. He would not be personally caught up in the problem because he would have avoided it and his advice would be less biased. I have given a reference for one such person.

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/10/08/recession-depression-keynes-oped-cx_nr_1009roubini.html

My point is that by going outside the industry we can get a perspective that is not biased and can take in the needs of all members of the community including ordinary citizens. Mr Paulson with his advisors were not able to do that and they wasted valuable time. They were too concerned with the problems of the market participants and not nearly as concerned about the banks and small businesses that were suffering.

Based on stock market behavior namely the fact that the market low of 2002 and 2003 was not exceeded to the downside I believe that there is still time to rescue this economy.

With respect to the past there are many culprits in allowing this credit bubble to occur but none is more culpable than Mr Greenspan. Interest rates were left too low for too long and the banks by securitizing their loans left them without a vested interest in the performance of these loans. Then there was the SEC with a combination of Donaldson and Cox who allowed an inherently risky situation to be created and then was asleep at the switch after the danger developed. Finally there were default swaps that were created to protect against the default of these mortgages and they were predicated on assumptions that were false. Bottom line too much risk was taken.

From a practical standpoint the dangerous part of this financial tangle is involved in excessive leverage and the creation of financial instruments based on incorrect assumptions that were thereby improperly priced. That aspect of the mortgage crisis did not involve Fannie and Freddie. They were involved in the creation of unwise mortgages but not in the creation of these leverage products that are threatening to tear the system apart.

Going forward we are going to be in need of more regulation. In order for that regulation to be instituted and administered effectively it is going to require that the people in charge not be affiliated with the industry being regulated. We should do that with the FDA and elsewhere as well. It is therefore important that the framework of the next administration not be laden with lobbyists. That is the lesson we should learn from this crisis.


Posted by: Gator-ron | October 11, 2008 9:31 AM

Being fake is always suspicious: Why did they use fake names and fake IDs when donating? There should be much more suspicious activities to probe.

Posted by: crystalcrystal2008 | October 11, 2008 5:32 AM

WHY ISN'T THE CORPORATE MEDIA ALL OVER THIS JOHN MCCAIN STORIE????

FROMA 'FACT OF THE MATTER'
http://www.need4trth.blogspot.com

As the independent check on government, the media have the responsibility to present accurate, unbiased news and analysis that will allow Americans to make an informed decision based on the facts, and not on any given administration's talking points.....media matters

'I SHOULDA' TOLD YA' BABY (WHAT COMES AROUND GOES BACK AROUND) I THOUGHT I TOLD YA' BOY.....justin timberlake


John McCain/RNC released two new propaganda ads one of which accuses Senator Barack Obama of knowing Professor William Ayers for years....The ad insinuates Ayers must have taken an interest in Obama but why? I won't even go into detail how sinister and sick this ad is. It was created to imply that a sitting US Senator is a terrorist. It never mentions that Ayers was never convicted of a crime, it never mentions that the weather undergrounds acts took place when Senator Obama was 8 years old, it never mentions that Obama met Ayers When Ayers was.....

William Charles "Bill" Ayers (born 26 December 1944)[1] is an American elementary education theorist and former leading 1960s anti-war activist. He is known for the radical nature of his activism in the 1960s and 1970s as well as his current work in education reform, curriculum, and instruction. In 1969 he cofounded the radical left organization the Weather Underground, which conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings during the 1960s and 1970s. He is now a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the title of Distinguished Professor.

The ads seek to INSTILL fear an uncertainty in a key constituency of White rural Americans. The ad is designed to invoke anger and racist sentiments through this group. This is how John 'War Hero' McCain seeks, "..to turn the page.."

MCCAINS OWN OCTOBER SURPRISE.......

'Judge not, or YOU'LL be judged...and according to the measure YOU use will judgement be laid upon YOU.." In other words, 'what comes around goes back around', yet for McShame it's with a vengence.

IS JOHN MCCAIN A NEO-NAZI WHITE SUPREMIST????

The differance here is Obama met Ayers when the wheather underground was over and done with for years. McCain for his part was sitting on the US COUNCIL FOR WORLD FREEDOM.....AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION LINKED TO NAZI COLLABORATOR'S AND MURDERERS
WHILE A SITTING US SENATOR IN 1982-1986. McCain says he left the group in 1986.

The U.S. Council for World Freedom also aided rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the Internal Revenue Service, which revoked the charitable organization's tax exemption.

The council created by retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub was the U.S. chapter of the World Anti-Communist League, an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. After setting up the U.S. council, Singlaub served as the international league's chairman.
In two interviews with The Associated Press in August and September, Singlaub said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain launched his political career. McCain was elected to the House in 1982.


Posted by: need4trth | October 11, 2008 4:43 AM

Anybody can donate to a campaign especially over the internet without identifying who they are. Maybe there are some Mccain supporters who are secretly donating to Obama. I think there are allot of people who are hoping for an Obama presidency. This story is a Wash.

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 11, 2008 2:09 AM

There were also fake Mccain donors aswell just like everybody talking about Acorn and not mentioning how the Mccain campaign are trying to use foreclosure list as a tool to supress people from voting in Ohio and Michigan. Why haven't anybody spoke about that.

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 11, 2008 2:05 AM

If you want to learn about the attacks on ACORN, you need to know this happens every election cycle.

The American Center for Voting Rights was a sham. Read the Wikipedia article if you want the truth. This is SO boring, folks! Republicans drag out this scary monster every two years right around Halloween.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Center_for_Voting_Rights

If you take the time to read this article (I am referring to liberals here, the neocons won't bother) the leadership at ACVR are Republican STOOGES. It is hardly "nonpartisan". The only Democratic member ran Democrats for BUSH!

QUOTE: The dissolution of ACVR came several weeks after the Election Assistance Commission issued a report that said the pervasiveness of fraud was open to debate.

HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. READ IT UNTIL IT SINKS IN.

QUOTE: "The DoJ devoted unprecedented resources to ferreting out polling-place fraud over five years and appears to have found not a single prosecutable case across the country," Slate reported.

Republicans want to crucify ACORN because they help poor and homeless people. They hate ACORN because ACORN is liberal and helps the poor. DUH.

Let me make sure you saw this part about FIVE YEARS, UNPRECEDENTED RESOURCES, NOT A SINGLE CASE ACROSS THE F-ING COUNTRY.

5 years. Not a single case. Not just against ACORN. Not a single case!

QUOTE: "The DoJ devoted unprecedented resources to ferreting out polling-place fraud over five years and appears to have found not a single prosecutable case across the country," Slate reported.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Center_for_Voting_Rights

Posted by: wunderwood | October 11, 2008 12:50 AM

CH-ican said: Like her candidacy or not is every citizen's right but the previous entry is simply a LIE. ARE Obama CRAZIE hell bent on any tactics on the rampage???
Palin was NEVER a member of this movement.
FACT. PLEASE!

It is not simply a lie. Go into denial if you want. The truth is that Todd Palin was a member of a secessionist movement for SEVEN YEARS. Have you checked? READ IT FOR YOURSELF. Try this:

GOOGLE IT

Todd Palin Alaskan Independence Party

Look for reliable sources. You decide what is reliable. Ignore Newsweek, Time, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, L.A. Times, etc... since they are all probably owned by liberal hippies bent on destroying our country...

TODD PALIN WAS A MEMBER OF THIS SECESSIONIST PARTY FOR SEVEN YEARS.

Posted by: wunderwood | October 11, 2008 12:32 AM

Well, I think I know the reason for part of this anyway.

When I first donated to obama, I didnt want to get alot of junk email from them so I gave my nickname and my maiden last name.

Sure enough I got emails. But since they were addressed to that name. I knew who they were from.

Then the phone calls started. They asked for that name, so I knew right away who was calling and why.

I corrected them and told them my real name a couple of months ago cause I'm even more for him now than I was at first. Unfortunately, I think they are all volunteers and they didn't get it. I now get solicited as BOTH names and am getting twice the calls and emails.

oh well.

Posted by: tmcproductions2004 | October 11, 2008 12:17 AM

Anybody considering that these names have been planted by the Repugs to create an October surprise. . .

Would you put anything past them.

Underhanded, thy name is republican.

Posted by: zmar2 | October 11, 2008 12:01 AM

Here's what I posted on an earlier thread (voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/05/rnc_to_file_fec_complaint_on_o.html); ***it still applies***:

I probably don't need to tell anyone that Matthew Mosk is downplaying this issue in order to help the BHO campaign.

Mosk's "handful of instances" are actually hundreds of donations totaling tens of thousands of dollars from apparently one person using fake names.

And, the FEC's list of potentially questionable foreign donors totals over $33.8 million, with some of that money apparently coming from Iran and other countries:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008070.html

Please write the WaPo and let them know we're on to their game: ombudsman *at* washpost.com

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | October 10, 2008 11:57 PM

Anyone consider the very real possibility that these "donors" were actually test data records entered into the donation management system by developers or system administrators?
I'm also curious how a donation from a clearly non-existent individual is returned.

Best Regards,
Querty Uiop 1234

Posted by: jjs2 | October 10, 2008 11:52 PM

From what I heard about this today, both campaigns state that such problems with donors' names exist. Both campaigns seem to be returning the bad contributions. Unless a human is at the end of an internet charge-card contribution, it takes time to to review these until later. Most people are honest. I would like to know what percentage contributions are suspect for both campaigns.

Bottom line: as long as the campaigns are taking steps to identify such bad contributions and are returning them, then there should be no problem for the campaigns.

Posted by: EarlC | October 10, 2008 11:43 PM

Why are the credit card databases of the Obama campaign still secret? Clinton and McCain made thiers available!

Is it that the country card #'s can be cross referenced for double payment, or that the country of origin will come to light?

And why hasn't Obama released his transcripts from college? Clinton did, so did McCain, heck even Bush did! Is it that we would see grades not supporting a scholorship? Did Obama even have a scholarship? Or did Rezko pay for Obama's Law school as well as his home?

Posted by: Homunculus | October 10, 2008 11:43 PM

Matthew Mosk,

When a Republican hack like you masquerade as a journalist, the product that comes out is like the one sided garbage as you have just penned. Surely you expect Obama to sit and count and tally all the bank cheques for all of the millions of dollars that are coming in for his campaign. Now, of course you have verified that all of Mr. McCain’s cheques are from authentic individuals only, right? “Fair and balanced” journalism at its best!

Posted by: Maverikk | October 10, 2008 11:31 PM

Is the empty suit starting to unravel... Ayers, Rezko, Wright, ACORN, now fraudulent campaign donations.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | October 10, 2008 11:28 PM

Not "everyone" knows his middle name. Did you know John SIDNEY McCain's middle name?

Posted by: JakeD | October 10, 2008 11:27 PM

One thing that seems to be missing from the debate (if you would like to see another reason to elect Obama and disown McCain):

Within moments of Obama's election in November, the BOYCOTTS of AMERICAN EXPORTED PRODUCTS (formal and informal) that have been in place in Europe, the Middle East, Australia, and most of Asia and Africa for the past ~7 years will be gone!

Our trade deficit will quickly diminish, the US dollar and our economy will be greatly bolstered. It won't fix all our economic ills, but it will help a lot.

Obama has more than a 60% approval by every other country in the World, and over 90% in most European countries. The punishment of the U.S. markets will stop because Bush and his twin McCain will be out of power and their illegal and ill-advised war will be soon over. The populist "sanctions" against us will be lifted. The rest of the World realizes that Obama is the voice of reason and that if we elect him they will think Americans have finally come back to their senses!

Not that I like to see other countries influence our policies, but in this case I agree with them and understand their desire to modify our highly immoral and illegal actions through economic sanctions. Remember, it is their right to buy or not buy our products, just as we exercise our right to do the same with their exports.

Posted by: spatula | October 10, 2008 11:14 PM

Like her candidacy or not is every citizen's right but the previous entry is simply a LIE. ARE Obama CRAZIE hell bent on any tactics on the rampage???

Palin was NEVER a member of this movement.
FACT. PLEASE!

Posted by: CH-ican | October 10, 2008 11:08 PM

As the treasurer of a state political party, I can tell you another reason why garbage names and addresses show up in political donations. Credit card thieves will make a donation on a stolen card to determine whether the card is good or not. If the donation goes through, it's a card that is still activated.

Posted by: rickm1 | October 10, 2008 11:01 PM

MY GOVERNMENT IS MY WORST ENEMY. I'M GOING TO FIGHT THEM WITH ANY MEANS AT HAND.

This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.

THE QUOTE IS ACTUALLY FROM JOE VOGLER, the raging ANTI-AMERICAN who founded the ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY, the very same SECESSIONIST PARTY that Palin's husband Todd belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier THIS year.

PALIN SAID TO THE A.I.P.: "Keep up the good work, and God bless you."

SARAH PALIN WANTS OUR FLAG TO HAVE 49 STARS? WTF is WRONG with you Republicans??? Are you just about winning at any cost? You gave us EIGHT YEARS of BUSH and you are back for MORE?

Todd Palin was a member the Alaskan Independence Party working for Alaska to secede from the United States. Todd Palin registered in 1995 until 2002 when he registered as "undeclared" while his wife ran for office. She sleeps with a man who is committed to the idea of destroying the United States.

Sarah Palin and 'first dudes' political alliance with a TERRORIST WHO WAS MURDERED IN 1993 DURING "A PLASTIC EXPLOSIVES SALE GONE BAD." Todd Palin joined the party two years later.

Let me repeat that: A PLASTICS EXPLOSIVE SALE GONE BAD.

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag," Joe Vogler said in 1991 in a taped interview.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS, FINE. JUST LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELF. STOP SUPPORTING THIS EMPTY HEADED LUNATIC CHEERLEADER FROM ALASKA. DO IT FOR YOUR COUNTRY.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/print.html

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. The so-called "liberal media" needs some encouragement.

Posted by: wunderwood | October 10, 2008 10:57 PM

"With respect to Obama campaign contributions, the vast majority, numbering in the many millions, are small and thereby far too many to be analyzed by human means. So an automated analysis program is required to find those that are fake."

Bolderdash! No "respect" applicable!

The numbers on credit cards include "country" information & can be used to give effective "totals" of donations using same card number. That alone could weed out foreign donations and illegal totals. EASY!!!

PUBLISH THE DATABASE!!

PROOF IS REQUIRED - TO DATE THERE IS NO APARENT DESIRE FOR TRANSPARENCY by Obama's campaign. They are the only ones keeping their database out of the public eye. INTERESTING!

CLINTON MC CAIN MADE THEIRS PUBLIC - WHY NOT OBAMA????????

Posted by: CH-ican | October 10, 2008 10:57 PM

LIKE MCCAIN - JUST DO THE RIGHT THING - PUT THE DATABASE ONLINE - then peole can help find the bugs and help the Obama campaign be transparent and return illegal donations (IF THAT IS THEIR REAL INTENTION)... until they do WHY SHOULD ANYONE TRUST THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IF THEY HIDE THE DATABASE?

Posted by: CH-ican | October 10, 2008 10:47 PM

Folks, my guess is that you could use a PayPal account. Everything can eventually be traced, but try doing that for many small donations. It probably costs more than the amount of the donation to fully track it.

I can report that one donation to Obama's campaign results in many, many (did I say MANY?) emails from the Obama campaign. It's a little irritating, but I keep an email address for commercial email so I can delete it easily.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 10, 2008 10:46 PM

I suggest that the author of this article and those submitting commentary projecting an evil Obama campaign try their hand at writing anti-SPAM software. Everybody thinks one can recognize SPAM quickly by the eye, therefore it must be easy to create an automated system to detect and eliminate it. Try your luck.
With respect to Obama campaign contributions, the vast majority, numbering in the many millions, are small and thereby far too many to be analyzed by human means. So an automated analysis program is required to find those that are fake. But no matter how well you automate, some fakes are sure to pass, and some will look clearly fake to the eye.

Posted by: jreed11665 | October 10, 2008 10:46 PM

I went to the Center of Responsive Politics and found 3 people in half an hour who had donated 5460. 7,600 and 6,800 to team BO,
and no............they were not refunded.

Posted by: thejaner | October 10, 2008 10:45 PM

Special Report
Stealing Pennsylvania: “Massive Fraud”
By Jeffrey Lord
Published 10/10/2008 4:09:45 PM
A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is “not confident we can get a fair election” in the state come November.
Gleason was even more explicit.

“Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board” with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. “Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election.”
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=14034

Posted by: thejaner | October 10, 2008 10:42 PM

What's the big DEAL??

I donated as Cintronlourdes one time and another time, I donated 5 bucks as Stella5, but, really, I'm a DittoHead Troll Nazi Scumbag.

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | October 10, 2008 10:35 PM

cintronlourdes is annoying, simple, incorrect, repetitive, sneaky, and ugly and I hope he/she meets an untimely demise soon.

what a tool.

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | October 10, 2008 10:31 PM

Dang, i didn't know you could do that!

I get phone calls from the Obama campaign almost every night!
(i don't pick up) If i'd known i could put in fake info, i would have.

I HATE telemarketers...even from Obama. (Whom i donate to whenever i can afford it.)

Posted by: julieds | October 10, 2008 10:31 PM

I am shocked. Mr. Clean, Mr. Velvet, The Great OB, Mr. Teflon, finally has been caught in the act of taking illegal contributions from the Masters of the Universe on the Wall Street and from Freddie and Fannie. No? These are illegal contribution from abroad. Wait there is more “our campaign has been fueled by donations from more than 2.5 million Americans who have contributed more than $458 million." Are these contributions from fundraiser where you have to pay over $30K (thousand) for a ticket? It could not be Mr. Teflon Obama. He is for chope. It could not be. I give it two weeks before Obama campaign implodes!

Posted by: Wiel | October 10, 2008 10:29 PM

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Posted by: wembakoy | October 10, 2008 10:24 PM

Gee...so let me guess; people don't want to get calls from telemarketers and political fundraisers.

I just gave $50 to Obama under the name Izzy Itzkowicz. Why did I NOT use my real name? Because I don't want to get called.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | October 10, 2008 10:20 PM

Obviously these $250 donations are the root of all the problems we face. Economy in the tank? Fighting 2 wars? 40+ million people w/o health care? Let's deal with those issues later and get to the bottom of this new conspiracy.

Idiocy. No wonder we keep electing people like George Bush.

Posted by: asta2 | October 10, 2008 9:58 PM

It seems very strange that all of these "fake" donations come from "real" credit card accounts that cannot be completely anonymous. Don't these fake donors have to list a real billing address for the credit card account? One can fake names and addresses but usually one cannot give a fake zip code or account number. Part of the mystery is related to the "privacy" protections provided by the credit card banks. There is no conspiracy happening here. Obama is playing by the rules, but because his campaign has broken all records the rules can't handle the overwhelming amount of data that has to be verified.

Posted by: TeddyRoosevelt | October 10, 2008 9:42 PM

I have never given to a presidential candidate before. And I lost my job recently.

A couple of my friends are donating $10-$25 month at great personal cost.

I'm sorry a few people are taking advantage of the system, but the vast majority of donors are following the rules. This really is a campaign from the middle class.

Again, if someone does it wrong, give it back. We want to do everything legally.

Posted by: amaikovich | October 10, 2008 9:23 PM

Does the recent way the gov't (recent, try the past 40 years but 20 in particular)has been systematically finding ways to collect tax money and spend it in ever increasingly large chunks in ways that are just so stupid, most of us were voicing the opinion to not pass the recent bailout? That one just completely pissed me off, to allow the regulator BArney Frank anywhere near the bill to bail out the financials who made their own bed of gnasty with the regulators right there every step of the way doing nothing at all but skimming from all sides. So far they have done nothing but throw good money after bad with the same result every time they do it. More money us American tax paying citizens get stuck paying. Well...
It makes me want to go to washington DC and just find a group of our elected officials and begin uncontrolably vomiting and spewing monumentous amounts of chunk all over them. I would hope this impossible feat would I be able to maintain for at least 10 whole minutes. Chasing them and spewing ridiculous amounts of bile and spunge clods upon their heads and persons completely and thoroughly soaking all who have ever written in an earmark or subsidy or a handout to a lobbying group all the way through clothing to the skin with puke. I think that might make alot of us feel better and would get the message across that we as a Nation are fed up with how our lives are being ruined by their innane repetitous inept (but carefully planned to benefit them) policies that do not help anyone in this country without it benefitting them first. Yes they make me sick. They should do the same to you and I hope I see you there vomiting your spew chunks of partially digested cottage cheese and omlettes with bell peppers upon another many shamefull disrespecting politicians. Do it at the local and state level too cause those idiots have been copying Main St. all along. Puke Puke and puke some more. Tell them what you really think and feel. Let them feel it too!

Barf for change. Barf for change. Barf for change. Barf for change.
?:^O> lwolbrrrrgrrggrgaburrghaaytwoobrbrbrbrweoofwwewfplpslstsplatsplatptooey. ?:^O>
Barf for change. Barf for change. Barf for change. Barf for change.


My name is Matt and I approve this message....gluuurrpuhdz.

Posted by: Lesstaxnow | October 10, 2008 9:22 PM

Obama has, what, 2-3 million discreet donors? If the rate of frauds runs at one half of one percent that will result in at least 10,000 fraudulent donations. Without some idea of a percentage, there's no story unless you actually think 2 million of anything should have no error rate.

Posted by: keller1 | October 10, 2008 9:16 PM

Here is a link to the actual Alaska troppergate report just released by the bipartisan Legislatave commitee.
http://download2.legis.state.ak.us/DOWNLOAD.pdf

Palin "violated the public trust" and "unlawfully ABUSED her power"

Palin, and McCain -are toast

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 10, 2008 8:50 PM

seriously...Could people STOP calling Barack "hussein?" Everybody knows about his middle name...it's not a hidden fact! It's been vetted a LONG LONG LONG time ago...And it's quit annoying

Thanks!
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Mission accomplished.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 10, 2008 8:47 PM

What's the mystery? Online donations have to be with credit cards, which generally come with real names. Why are these stories acting like there is some hard-to-crack conspiracy?

Posted by: burnskevin | October 10, 2008 8:46 PM

seriously...Could people STOP calling Barack "hussein?" Everybody knows about his middle name...it's not a hidden fact! It's been vetted a LONG LONG LONG time ago...And it's quit annoying

Thanks!

Posted by: stella5 | October 10, 2008 8:45 PM

This 'news' isn't worth the cyberspace it occupies! Latest figures on the fake donors is slow rumor day - pipe into failin palins bigotry, it's easier to fing.

Posted by: stodayxx | October 10, 2008 8:35 PM

Interesting: Christopher Buckley, conservative author and son of William F. Buckley, has decided to support Obama for president.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Has hell frozen over?

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You just don't get it.

Hussein is more conservative, more pro-free trade and global capitalism than McCain. THAT'S WHY WALL STREET HAS CHOSEN THE MESSIAH INSTEAD OF MCCAIN.

When Wall Street supports a candidate, you can bet your house, with kids and pets and wife inside, that they are not doing it because they have being moved by speeches of "hope" and "change you can believe in".

Wall Street has no heart. Money and profits is the guiding light of those people.

So don't rake your brain trying to understand why so many wealthy capitalist and conservatives are supporting the messiah.

HUSSEIN IS THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNIST SEEN SINCE THE PAST MILLENIUM. HE USED AYERS AND THE CHICAGO LEFT, NOW HE'S USING THE ONES THAT CAN BRING HIM TO HE WHITE HOUSE.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 10, 2008 8:31 PM

This is a shocking outrage! Imagine people donating $250 to a candidate simply because they like his policies. These small time democratic donors didn't want any legislative favors, or better "access" to the candidate or even a thank you letter!

How are professional lobbyists supposed to compete with that?

No wonder the republicans are in a snit. They've probably never heard of such a thing...

Seriously, do a little homework here! Trace the credit cards used for these "questionable" donations and ask the owners if they meant to donate, and if they are allowed. (US citizens or permanent resident, private funds, etc. etc.)

If you find thousands of donations came from gift cards bought overseas *then* you have a story. Otherwise all you have is a handful of Obama supporters who don't understand why accurately filling out online forms is important.

If you can't be bothered to do that, could you at least report the percentage of questionable donations? (in dollars and # of donors)

A little perspective would be nice...

Posted by: rwolf01 | October 10, 2008 8:25 PM

Interesting: Christopher Buckley, conservative author and son of William F. Buckley, has decided to support Obama for president.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Has hell frozen over?

Posted by: tellthetruth01 | October 10, 2008 8:15 PM

If this were McCain, it would be a front page article.

Since it's about obama ,it's buried in an obscure collumn and presented as if everyone does it.
a comment from an obama campaign aide is treated as the "truth", while the factual findings of fake donors to obama is given the once over ..

Posted by: newagent99 | October 10, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

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REALLY?
you did actually read the article right?

"McCain refunded about $50,000 in donations solicited by Mustafa Abu Naba'a, a Jordanian national who bundled contributions for McCain in concert with a Florida businessman. "Rather than accepting contributions from PACs and Washington lobbyists like John McCain's campaign, our campaign has been fueled by donations from more than 2.5 million Americans who have contributed more than $458 million," La Bolt said."

So THAT should be on the front page too?

PURE FILTH

Again THIS is what and who we are dealing with-----------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utXFkXwaG7A

Posted by: feastorafamine | October 10, 2008 8:13 PM

I'll bet most political campaigns have shady fundraising going on without their knowledge. This makes up a minuscule amount of Obama's total haul; I doubt they were perpetrating some widespread fraud here...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | October 10, 2008 8:12 PM

When you set up an account with an online site, do you use your real name or something that you made up to protect your identity? Well I contributed on line and signed with my screen name. I already had a screen name set up and later on down the road I decided to contribute...I didn't set up a new account to do this.I believe most people who are computer literate know this.I also think it is another dirty trick to accuse Obama of doing something shady, when he hasn't.

Posted by: puredemo | October 10, 2008 8:03 PM |
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I agree. Many Obama supporters are younger and/or computer literate. Many people in the press (and McCain staffers who are pushing these memes) are not.

The way this article comes off is: if you're an Obama contributor, you must be doing something wrong/bad.

I just gave Obama $25 more in honor of the Washington Post.

Posted by: tellthetruth01 | October 10, 2008 8:12 PM

There are crazy people in the world-genuinely psychotic people who have access to computers and even funds to spend. SOME of these people will follow the voices and impulses in their heads and make contributions for reasons only they would understand. Minors, or those in altered mental states as a result of alcohol or drugs, or who are just troubled and confused may also make contributions to a candidate. How could ANY candidate screen out such donors? Whats the big deal?

Posted by: smeesq | October 10, 2008 8:12 PM

Posted by: ZnanaB | October 10, 2008 7:54 PM:

You are making something out of nothing with this.

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When did i read that before? Oh, yes, I remember, when...

1. Hussein's associations with Ayers is questioned
2. Hussein's sexist comments regarding the female journalist and Hillary and Palin...

3. Hussein flip flopped about accepting only public funding for his campaign.

4. Hussein flip flopped about FISA.

5. Hussein received money from Middle East terrorists

6. Hussein demanded no help for homeowners in the bailout "package", let them get evicted.

7. relations with Rezko

8. the list goes on and on and on and on...

For those who drank the Obama Kool Aid, zombied out, they forget every previous evidence of corrupt and questionable character. Short term memory is a distinguishing sign of dead volition.

And due to that dead spirit, nothing the messiah does affects the irrational approval he gets from his zombies.

Posted by: cintronlourdes | October 10, 2008 8:11 PM

If this were McCain, it would be a front page article.

Since it's about obama ,it's buried in an obscure collumn and presented as if everyone does it.
a comment from an obama campaign aide is treated as the "truth", while the factual findings of fake donors to obama is given the once over ..

Posted by: newagent99 | October 10, 2008 8:08 PM

Nice hatchet job on Obama. Couldnt this article as easily be entitled Fake McCain donors? What a joke. This sickening bloodlust of lies, distortions, threats, questioning partiotism, smears of socialism, terrorist ties, and the like are simply vomit. I pray that Americans reject the politics of fear and hate that we have endured for the last decade. It is my greatest wish that informed voters reject this garbage and that a backlash of historic proportions occurs. I find this GARBAGE SICKENING. I am NOT an angry man but i am now. I AM PISSED OFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ENOUGH
ENOUGH
ENOUGH
LIARS
FEAR MONGERERS
You wanna know who is unamerican?
THESE SLIMEBALLS AT MCCAIN RALLIES> INCLUDING MATHEW FOSK WHO SEEMS MORE INTERESTED IN COLLECTING WEB HITS THAN REPORTING THE TRUTH.

check out some great americans here (drenched in sarcasm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utXFkXwaG7A

Posted by: feastorafamine | October 10, 2008 8:03 PM

When you set up an account with an online site, do you use your real name or something that you made up to protect your identity? Well I contributed on line and signed with my screen name. I already had a screen name set up and later on down the road I decided to contribute...I didn't set up a new account to do this.I believe most people who are computer literate know this.I also think it is another dirty trick to accuse Obama of doing something shady, when he hasn't.

Posted by: puredemo | October 10, 2008 8:03 PM

Both parties have received funds from unauthorized donors, both have returned the funds when discovered.

What's the big deal?

Posted by: JRM2 | October 10, 2008 7:58 PM

Most important sentence in that article, "John McCain refunded $1.2 million in contributions during the primaries, some of which was raised by and from foreign nationals "

It's really hard to stop people from donating online, but when it's discovered, both campaigns gave the money back.

What are Obama and McCain supposed to do to stop this from happening besides keeping their books open and auditing frequently?

As to how they give the money back, these are online contributions made by credit cards, they refund the money to the donor's credit card.

Posted by: AppeaseThis | October 10, 2008 7:57 PM

You are making something out of nothing with this. In the end, these people have to use real credit or debit cards that have their true names and addresses to make online donations. Remember you cannot use cash for an online donation.

My guess is that with the credit card information both campaigns will eventually figure out if the donors are legitimate or not. The big question is what percentage of the donations received by both camps do these donations you talk about represent?

One thing I have learned in this election cycle is how incompetent the media is. Instead of presenting the entire picture, I find that a lot of reporters just present the side of a story that justifies the heading they want to use to attract attention. This is one of them.

Posted by: ZnanaB | October 10, 2008 7:54 PM

OMG...this is unbelievable. The Post missed their marching orders. Never report on voter fraud, campaign donations, etc. Oh, I forgot, didn't the Messiah pledge to use public funds....

Posted by: jhpbriton | October 10, 2008 7:54 PM

In the first place, the tag on the main page has donErs, not donors. In the second place, why slant the article so that it places blame on Obama in particular, when obviously it is a multi-candidate problem?

I am more interested in hearing how they managed to return a donation to the address "fhdfhdfh, Erial, NJ 08081."

Posted by: dotellen | October 10, 2008 7:35 PM

Sibel Edmonds, a nationalized American of Turkish heritage has been muzzled by the Bush Administration under "State Secrets Privilege" for the last 4 years. She is a former FBI translator who has inside information that Former Speaker Hastert was accepting bribes from foreign governments.

Posted by: kuasol1 | October 10, 2008 7:34 PM

"Doner"? Like the German snack food? C'mon guys, you can do better than that.

Posted by: Emilysoprano | October 10, 2008 7:31 PM

Finally! I thought the Post was going to ignore this until after the election.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 10, 2008 7:26 PM

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