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Firefighters Target McCain, GOP Senators on Health Care

By Ed O'Keefe
The International Association of Firefighters has launched its voter mobilization campaign in support of Barack Obama with a new ad that attacks John McCain's health care proposals -- and two vulnerable Senate Republicans. The ad stars four firefighters concerned about how the Republican's health care proposals would affect their families' bottom line and pictures them in full work-gear in front of smoking ruins.

"Our job is to risk our lives to protect you, and your loved ones. We're proud of that," says one firefighter.

"Like you, we need our health care for our families," says another.

"And now John McCain wants all of us to pay taxes on health insurance," says a third firefighter.

"Pay more taxes? Or lose coverage? No thanks," say two others.

"Join us. Let's protect all of our families. Let's fight McCain's plan to tax our health care, together."

McCain has pledged to give families a $5,000 tax credit allowing them to buy their own health insurance, but he has also proposed taxing employer-provided health benefits, meaning most of the extra income from the tax credit would be spent on the taxes on employer-provided benefits. The Obama campaign, labor unions and other liberal groups have seized on this aspect of McCain's proposals repeated in recent weeks in both advertising and mailers.

The ad will air mostly during local cable ad breaks in Orlando, St. Louis, New Hampshire, Northern and Eastern parts of North Carolina, parts of Ohio and in Virginia's Prince William and Fauquier Counties and the Hampton Roads region. Dipping its toes into two competitive Senate races, the union will air versions of the ad in the Wilmington and Greensboro, N.C., markets targeting Sen. Elizabeth Dole (N.C.) and across New Hampshire against Sen. John Sununu (N.H.). It will also send mailers in support of Dole and Sununu's Democratic opponents.

Posted at 11:28 AM ET on Oct 22, 2008  | Category:  Channel 08
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Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 8:33 PM


Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 7:09 PM

DON'T TAX MY HEALTH INSURANCE MCCAIN-----NO HOW, NO WAY, NO MCCAIN=====Barack and Barack Supporters, ....Take nothing for granted..... You've got to earn it EVERY DAY.....WORK HARDER....WORK SMARTER....The next 12 days will tell the tale of who convinces the American Public they can do the job.....We know it's not Mccain because he can't even figure out any aspect of the economy, or talk to the middle class, or get away from his good ol' buddy George Dubya's failed policies, or explain his poor judgment in selecting Palin---We have got to make January 20, 2009 --THE END OF AN ERROR!!!!.....EVERYONE MUST WORK TO MAKE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN....LET'S ALL PUT OBAMA AND BIDEN TO WORK FOR ALL AMERICA!!!....Now is the time to talk to every friend, all neighbors, also your co-workers, and get them to VOTE EARLY or at least get to the polls to VOTE...NOW IS THE TIME!!

Posted by: benighse | October 22, 2008 4:53 PM

So, A vote for Obama is a vote for danger, Joe: Is that what you're telling us- Thanks for the Warning! I'll stick with Foreign Policy Credentials at the Top of my Ticket.

Posted by: thecannula | October 22, 2008 4:41 PM

Before you used reason and issues and although I thought you were dissembling and distorting, Now you are using fear mongering. Some how I do not think your judgment of leadership and foreign affairs out strips Colin Powell's.

For reasons of honest disclosure I think you should disclose that you earn more than 250K and that you support McCain to improve you business prospects. Doing that gives you some integrity. You can never have too much integrity.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 22, 2008 4:45 PM


"At a Seattle, Wash., fundraiser Sunday, Biden said, "Mark my words, it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America ... Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.""

So, A vote for Obama is a vote for danger, Joe: Is that what you're telling us?- Thanks for the Warning! I'll stick with Foreign Policy Credentials at the Top of my Ticket.

Posted by: thecannula | October 22, 2008 4:41 PM

I'm amazed and appalled that people actually want the government to run their healthcare. If it comes to that, good luck to those that need transplants, have heart conditions etc,- basically anyone that requires more than a throat swab and an antibiotic.

Posted by: thebink | October 22, 2008 4:40 PM



Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 4:30 PM

In the words of John McCain:

"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief."

"I really believe, that when you are -- reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more."

So why does he think it is a bad idea now?

Posted by: Independent4tw | October 22, 2008 4:21 PM

The way you are talking ,you are satanist yourself.because GOOD PEOPLE don't sound like you...


Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 3:52 PM

Mccain is a:


Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 3:48 PM

those damn socialist/commie firefighters. how un-american they are. they probably support terrorism and they probably like to kill babies just like anyone who supports obama. well let me tell you, REAL americans are from small towns and real americans support McCain/Palin. IF you don't support the republican ticket then you are a satanist.

Posted by: gdabling | October 22, 2008 3:45 PM

Posted by: parsonsscott | October 22, 2008 3:36 PM

Republicans for Barack Obama and Joe Biden 2008!

Posted by: beaversrus | October 22, 2008 3:25 PM

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 22, 2008 3:22 PM

peterdaol and others spewing madness:

here i looked it up for you and by the way, is put out by the annenburg foundation, you know the big republican reagan supporters? and even they say obama would provide more health care coverage for all.

heres another tip, dont ever rely on just one source for news, even this one

Posted by: truthspreader | October 22, 2008 3:11 PM

lightnin001 :

really -

check your facts before you buy into the crazyness.

really, do you think obama advocates murder of a live baby?

heres a tip, if it sounds crazy, then its probably a complete misstatement of the entire truth.

- this issue, im not fluent in but i need read about how it was crap and it was related more to - if the mom's life was in danger etc. but really, hes a congressman and he wants to murder live babies? commmon.

- you buy that he wants to teach kindergarteners sex ed too right?

- i have ocean front property in arizona for sale, i'll give you a special for $500 rate cuz youre special. call me. ; )

Posted by: truthspreader | October 22, 2008 3:04 PM

Neither of their healthcare plans are feasible. Under McCain's plan, no one will have insurance. Under Obama's, they don't have the money.

NONE OF YOU HAVE ANY RIGHT to put down FireFighters though, they are selfless heros and should be treated as such, and with respect.

and you: lightnin001
Your an idiot. Try reading the actual bill before open your mouth - typical neocon. With the economy, war on terror, etc I find it amazing that you can still vote based upon religious beliefs. Time for you to vacate our country - you don't belong here.

Posted by: beaversrus | October 22, 2008 2:58 PM

re your coment:
It is called "spread the health care around" you firefighters selfish jerks.

peterdaol: OMG! obamas plan would spread the health care around alot more. no one denies that, expect mccain tries to scare you to think differently part of the time and the other part he wants to call obama robbin hood. look up for unbiased reviews. (not like Fox's entertainment news crap)

GEEZZZ, you are such a victim of mccains propoganda and obviously havent researched the health care proposals at all. you are so mixed up you dont even quote mccains plan as he says it accurately.

if anything, obamas health and tax plans are being called robbin hood by the mccain camp because he wants to tax the ultra wealthy and corporations to provide more programs and health care for all, including those who take home less than $250,000.

Posted by: truthspreader | October 22, 2008 2:56 PM

Willful Ignorance
Wishful Thinking
Outdated Ideology



Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 2:52 PM

lighnin - when you state only part of the facts you leave one to wonder if you don't know any better or are just deliberatly trying to deceive people. The reason that Obama wouldn't support THAT ban on partial birth abortion was because of the way it was written. It would have undermined part of Roe v Wade and it had no provisions in it for the life of the mother. Now you can still disagree with that position, but at least give all of the facts.

Posted by: jerzygrl | October 22, 2008 1:57 PM

"The controversy surrounding Ms Rice was initially sparked by claims by the White House's former counter-terrorism chief Richard Clarkein a recently published book and then again in sworn testimony before the commission that he had repeatedly warned the administration about the threat posed by al-Qa'ida and that he had been ignored.

That pressure significantly increased with claims from a former FBI translator who told The Independent this week that she had provided information to the 9/11 Commission that could prove senior officials knew of al-Qa'ida's plans to attack the US with aircraft months before the strikes happened. She said the claim by Ms Rice that there was no such information was "an outrageous lie"."

peterdaol, perhaps if you had consumed fewer six-packs and paid attention you would have a clue.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 22, 2008 1:53 PM

That was happen twelve years ago,your big problem is you just hate a person,that make you can't see what's wrong,what's right; you don't want to focus in what happen in a bad situation we are now in all over the know who put the WORLD ECONOMY IN TROUBLE,it's BUSH,MCBUSH.PUT YOURSELF TOGETHER...


Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 1:48 PM

those blaming Clinton for 911 should read a little bit more on how his anti-terror projects were shot down by GOP congress.

an if you have any searching skills you'll find that the issue in above link was no exception.

Posted by: overboard20 | October 22, 2008 1:26 PM

You will never learn what BUSH ADMINISTRATION done to the WORLD ECONOMY,


Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 1:24 PM

If Clinton had not been so complacent after the first attack on the WTC there wouldn't have been the second attack. But go ahead vote Democrats, they will never learn.

Posted by: peterdaol | October 22, 2008 1:10 PM

INDEPENDENT4TW You know, I like that one


Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 12:59 PM

How about Obama's health policies? Obama voted FOR Partial-Birth Abortion (the most barbaric "medical" procedure allowed under the law, and AGAINST the Federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which prevents babies that survive an abortion attempt from being killed or left to die. He has also stated that he thinks women should have a period of time after a baby is born to decide if they want it killed! How much MORE do you need to know about Obama?

Posted by: lightnin001 | October 22, 2008 12:57 PM



Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 12:55 PM

OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!


Posted by: fu_buki | October 22, 2008 12:51 PM

Firefighters in rural areas are volunteers. Those in cities are well paid, well fed and unionized. They lack the drive to innovate and hopelessly incapable in skyscrapers. Most still fight fire the exact same way their great, great, grandfathers did, pathetic.

Posted by: peterdaol | October 22, 2008 12:50 PM

"It is called "spread the health care around" you firefighters selfish jerks."

Calling a firefighter a "selfish jerk."

I hope you die in a car fire for that remark. Firefighters are the least selfish of anyone, most firefighters are volunteers.

Posted by: Independent4tw | October 22, 2008 12:42 PM

It is called "spread the health care around" you firefighters selfish jerks.

Posted by: peterdaol | October 22, 2008 12:35 PM

.Who is really paying health insurance aka disease care in America.
Folks lets check the facts and do the math and you will find it is us the taxpayer paying 100% of it all.
1. The "Private Sector" as the republicans so fondly call it is "Providing" health insurance but it is us the taxpayer after paying taxes on our wages and purchase the goods and services from those businesses who "Provide" health insurance. Providing employees with health insurance is a business expense and it is build into the price of those goods and services we buy and is also tax deductible and it gives those companies who refuse providing health insurance an unfair advantage because they charge somewhat lower prices and yet reap a higher profit margin.
2. There are about 14 million federal employees with health insurance paid for by, yes you guessed right, the taxpayer and the same goes for our city, county and state employees of about 45 million people.
3. Those unfortunate people who have no health insurance due to unemployment or who have jobs with companies that use predatory employment practices and other factors cannot afford seeing doctors as needed and will and do end up in the emergency rooms of our hospitals that are again paid for by the taxpayer.
4. Medicaid paid for by the taxpayer.
Well, having said all that i think a redistribution of this existing wealth should suffice to include every man, woman and child.

Posted by: aloisonline | October 22, 2008 12:34 PM

Ouch, I am starting to feel bad for McCain. He has no chance, unless he steals votes, to win this election.

Posted by: Independent4tw | October 22, 2008 12:23 PM

(1st WOMAN): I make over $250,000/yr
((2nd WOMAN): I make over $250,000/yr
((3rd WOMAN): I make over $250,000/yr
((NARRATOR): Spread MY wealth?
((1st MAN): I'm supposed to work...
((2nd MAN): Just for the common good?
3rd MAN): Obama wants me to pay my fair share of taxes like a REAL PLUMBER?
(4th WOMAN): I make over $250,000/yr
(NARRATOR): McCain. Lower Taxes for the Rich. More Corporate Welfare. Erratic.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 22, 2008 11:52 AM

Let's be honest, anyone who was in NYC on 9/11 knows that the air was rancid and unsafe.

Guiliani lied to the people about how safe the air was because if people left it would have been bad for business.

The Republican calculus has always been for short-term business performance over the long-term interests of the people as a whole.

No wonder health care costs continue to rise. Penny wise and pound foolish.

What a bunch of arses.

Posted by: jrob822 | October 22, 2008 11:39 AM

AHHH! You see McCain campaign. An add based on the REAL facts in REALITY.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 22, 2008 11:38 AM

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