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McCain Gives Economy Speech in Ohio, Warning Against 'Dangerous Threesome' of Democratic Leaders


Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) walks to the podium to speak about his plans for the economy past his advisors former Meg Whitman and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney in Cleveland, Ohio on Oct. 27, 2008. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)

Updated 11:50 a.m.
By Michael D. Shear
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Sen. John McCain gave a surprise economic speech this morning, delivering a forceful restatement of his economic proposals and hammering Sen. Barack Obama as a tax-raising liberal.

In a hastily-arranged event that was added to his public schedule at midnight the night before, McCain pledged to do three things if he is elected president: protect investments, rescue the housing market and lower taxes to spur new job creation.

"I have been through tough times like this before and the American people can trust me -- based on my record and results -- to take strong action to end this crisis, restore jobs and bring security to Americans," McCain told a crowd of about 100 people after meeting with
his economic advisers. "I will never be the one who sits on the sidelines waiting for things to get better."

In the speech, he condemned talk by congressional Democrats of another economic stimulus package, calling it a "spending spree" by the "dangerous threesome" of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Leader Harry Reid and Obama.

"They believe that $1 trillion of rescue financing is not enough and have already proposed another $300 billion spending spree they are calling a stimulus plan," he said. "I would rather give the great American middle class additional tax cuts and let you keep that money and invest it in your future."

McCain advisers said they believe the race is tightening nationally and in the battleground states as voters focus on McCain's warnings about Obama's economic policies, and that a speech of this kind has been in the works for two weeks. McCain has been using "Joe the Plumber" on the trail to highlight Obama's comment that he would "spread the wealth around."

He dropped the folksy language Monday morning, choosing instead a more serious tableau, standing side by side with his economic advisers. But he continued to attack Obama.

"I know it's pleasant to listen to Senator Obama's rhetoric, but look at the record," McCain said. "This is the fundamental difference between Senator Obama and me. We both disagree with President Bush on economic policy. The difference is that he thinks taxes have been too low and I think that spending has been too high."

He added: "Senator Obama's approach is to radically increase spending and then raise taxes to pay for them."

McCain's economic speech included no new proposals. Instead, he once again promised to provide incentives for people to stay in the stock market, use the government's bailout money to buy up and refinance bad mortgages and lower taxes on business.

"This election comes down to: how you want your hard earned money spent?" he said. "Do you want to keep it and invest it in your future, or have it taken by the most liberal person to ever run for the Presidency?"

His speech came after a meeting with his economic team, which included: former congressman Jack Kemp, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, Stanford professor John Taylor, former eBay CEO Meg Whitman and former Maryland lieutenant governor Michael Steele.

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Dangerous, Terrorist, Pro American, Real American, these words and there abuse by the McCain campaign are shameless.

I don't know what they demonstrate, desperation of the campaign or manipulation, or worse honest opinions, only the speaker can say for sure, but I do know that they make me feel bad, angry and disrespected.

Dissension is the foundation of everything good that America is, if it wasn't for dissension America wouldn't exist, and now we have the Republican party again drawing lines, dividing the citizenship of America into loyal and disloyal groups.

America needs to get better and demonstrate our evolution by sending a message to any political campaign who use these words in this inappropriate manner and make sure they fail.

Tell our politicians that we will no longer take this fear mongering as a reason to elect them, and we don't approve of Americans who point to other Americans and try to convince us they are lesser Americans.

Posted by: RickLord | October 28, 2008 11:19 AM

Or you could really get dangerous and leave the economy to McKnucklehead and Palin.

Posted by: majorteddy | October 28, 2008 10:43 AM

SAINT---The wrote:

I should have said QUALIFIED, and COMPETENT Practitioners of modern medicine!

It wouldn't have mattered, you still would have been wrong.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 28, 2008 6:17 AM

SAINT---The wrote:

I should have said QUALIFIED, and COMPETENT Practitioners of modern medicine!

It wouldn't have mattered, you still would have been wrong.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 28, 2008 6:11 AM

SAINT---The wrote:

I should have said QUALIFIED, and COMPETENT Practitioners of modern medicine!

It wouldn't have mattered, you still would have been wrong.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 28, 2008 6:11 AM

I'll roll the dice and take my chances with the "dangerous threesome" over the "Laurel and Hardy" comedy team.

Posted by: jenbell45 | October 28, 2008 5:40 AM

LOL! :-D

Yeah Wes;

I should have said QUALIFIED, and COMPETENT Practitioners of modern medicine!

LOL!

"I am Obigi Won Kignobi"

"I can heal you Bawanna, The Source is with me!"

That, and these Frog's eyes! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 28, 2008 2:07 AM

SAINT---The wrote:

Britain, Canada, France and other forms of Socialized Medicine, are all suffering the same fate. The lack of rewards, has eventually led to the lack of Practitioners.

Actually you are 100% wrong about there being a lack of practitioners in the UK at least not for the reasons you are trying to insinuate. In fact there have been so many foreign doctors applying to practice in the UK and such a stink was raised about it they altered how the exams and licensing was handled to give preferential treatment to UK doctors.

But it sounded good even if it is false and that's what counts after all isn't it?

Posted by: wes1155 | October 28, 2008 1:44 AM

JoeT1:

There isn't much point to try and reason with someone who is copying and pasting from their Palin-McCain campaign supplied scripts.

Although I will say inch for inch sagereader supplies about as much BS as I have seen.

Let's see, Obama-Biden are not espousing free health care, they are pushing for an opt in for people who don't have employer provided plans. Then throw impressive figures out about how much the Obama-Biden tax cuts will actually cost, but doesn't give any references to back it up. Real useful.

About the only truth they said was taxes are going to go up and we can thank that Socialist or is it Marxist, George W. Bush and his Socialist neocon and right wingnut friends.

Taxes might not go up at the federal level with the next president, which I doubt will be the case no matter who is elected, but you can be darned sure they will at the state and local levels. Unless of course people are willing to give up police and fire protection, road repairs, school funding and garbage collection to name a few.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 28, 2008 1:34 AM

The only Threesome that I want to be in is with Sarah Palin and Cindy McCain. John McCain is pandering to our basest of thoughts and lowest of our common denominator, FEAR. McCain/Palin campaign like their party is morally broke, with no platform to stand on. John McCain must be talking from experience because after all when the Repugs were in power (White House, Capitol hill, and SC) under Bush for 8 years all they did was stiff us hard working americans while they divy out the money among their rich friends thus the current crises. Remember: REPUBLICANS DID THIS TO OUR SOCIETY AND NEVER AGAIN SHOULD THEY BE ALLOWED IN OFFICE.

Posted by: TKDuff | October 27, 2008 11:36 PM

Sagereader-Good points.

Britain, Canada, France and other forms of Socialized Medicine, are all suffering the same fate. The lack of rewards, has eventually led to the lack of Practitioners.

That, and a severe lack of research due again to a lack of reward for creative ingenuity has Ham-strung their systems-That, and an aging Populace.

If you look at my suggestion, you will see an Idea that tries to benefit the Private Practice.
Not so much by Subsidizing it, or Even replacing it, but by actually COMPETING with it!

The advantage for the Private Practice-No more Free-Loaders, and eventually, many more Practitioners due to expanded training! As More Doctors and Nurses arrive, hours get reduced, competition gets increased, delays get erased. Suddenly, budgets get balanced. Bills get paid. Insurance needs REGULATION, Red-Tape eliminated, and Profits made reasonable!

Then, as I stated, those who somehow cannot afford either Insurance, or Private Practice rates, have a "Security" Blanket to fall onto!

It is NOT as good as our "Private" Practice-which is as good as it gets, BUT, it will be Treatment!

Then, aside from First Timers(Last), for LEGAL American residents! The whole Idea of an Illegal woman, dropping an "Anchor Baby", who then is an INSTANT SCHIPs Recipient-Till Adulthood!, Makes me VERY, VERY Angry!

Almost as ANGRY as I get;

KNOWING;

House Resolution 1940-Birthright Citizenship Act;

Has been gathering DUST on Ninny Peloser's desk!

I, am NOT an IDIOT!

I Really WISH Congressmen, and Pelosi's, WOULD STOP MAKING ME LOOK LIKE ONE!

Only an Idiot would have an Idiot as their Rep!-At least without COMPLAINING Loudly!

John Carter, Kay Bailey Hutchison, and John Cornyn, all successfully, MAKE ME LOOK SMART! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 27, 2008 11:24 PM

sagereader: you are absolutely, flat out, dead wrong. not even McCain is suggesting that folks under 250K will pay more under Obama. If he won't even use your lie, it can't be true. He just decided that those over 250K, who he called the "comfortable rich" when he thought the Bush cuts should go to the "hardworking middle class" who made under 250, suddenly should be called the hardworking middle class (who knew) and that everyone under 250 suddenly became the lazy poor. what a crock. EXACT same tax structure under Obama as McCain wanted instead of the Bush cuts.

and as for health care, there is nothing in Obama's proposal that has anything to do with rationing or Britain or Canada. He would allow people to buy into the same health plan that now covers, guess who - McCain, the federal employee health benefit plan, which looks a lot like traditional health insurance because - guess what? it is.

that's it, traditional health insurance for everyone. no story here. and in case you don't know, we already have universal coverage. everyone, without regard to insurance or money, already can walk in to any emergency room in this country and, under federal law, be treated without paying if you don't have the money. those costs, which are 10 times what they would be if the same people saw docs in their offices before they got really sick, are passed on by the hospitals to the insurers, and, in turn, to the insured in their premiums. Universal health insurance coverage would just take that burden and first, lower it on average because the cost of care would go down, second, reduce the pass through from those who can afford care but currently freeload because they are young and healthy and don't want to buy insurance, and three, to the extent there are subsidies for the poor, they would be born out of general tax revenues, not equally by the insured.

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 27, 2008 11:15 PM

A survey of doctors in Britain's National Health Service show that a significant percentage of providers want government to cut off benefits to the elderly, the obese, smokers, and others:

Doctors are calling for NHS treatment to be withheld from patients who are too old or who lead unhealthy lives.
Smokers, heavy drinkers, the obese and the elderly should be barred from receiving some operations, according to doctors, with most saying the health service cannot afford to provide free care to everyone.

Fertility treatment and "social" abortions are also on the list of procedures that many doctors say should not be funded by the state.

The findings of a survey conducted by Doctor magazine sparked a fierce row, with the British Medical Association and campaign groups describing the recommendations from family and hospital doctors as "out­rageous" and "disgraceful".


On one hand, this makes sense. After all, the taxpayer has to foot the bill for these procedures and these patients. Why should some taxpayers have to subsidize bad behavior? If people choose to smoke, why should non-smoker taxes support the consequences of that habit, especially when it makes non-smokers wait longer for their own health care?

This exposes the fallacy of "free" health care. There is no such thing. Someone has to pay the bills, and it can either be the patients themselves, the insurers, taxpayers, or a combination of the three. No matter what happens, each of these payers will act in some way to ration care, especially regarding cost. The question is which kind of rationing allows for the best access for the individual, and which threatens the greatest intrusion on freedom and personal choice.

In a single-payer system, the government can extort individuals over their personal choices, and even have some rational support for that extortion. In the name of "fairness", they can determine that some people are too old to invest in their care. They can determine that others eat badly and therefore don't deserve to take resources away from people who eat better. At some point, that could translate into preferential treatment for vegetarians or against vegetarians, depending on the whims of the bureaucracy at the moment.

Do you want government to tell you that your mother or father are simply too old to matter anymore? Would you like to have that happen in a system where either the private care choices are out of reach because the government has removed all of the private insurers from the market, or they don't exist, as in Canada? Eventually, state run systems fall back to the bread line model, as they did in the Soviet Union, and someone has to start making choices about who gets the bread.

Posted by: sagereader | October 27, 2008 10:45 PM

A survey of doctors in Britain's National Health Service show that a significant percentage of providers want government to cut off benefits to the elderly, the obese, smokers, and others:

Doctors are calling for NHS treatment to be withheld from patients who are too old or who lead unhealthy lives.
Smokers, heavy drinkers, the obese and the elderly should be barred from receiving some operations, according to doctors, with most saying the health service cannot afford to provide free care to everyone.

Fertility treatment and "social" abortions are also on the list of procedures that many doctors say should not be funded by the state.

The findings of a survey conducted by Doctor magazine sparked a fierce row, with the British Medical Association and campaign groups describing the recommendations from family and hospital doctors as "out­rageous" and "disgraceful".


On one hand, this makes sense. After all, the taxpayer has to foot the bill for these procedures and these patients. Why should some taxpayers have to subsidize bad behavior? If people choose to smoke, why should non-smoker taxes support the consequences of that habit, especially when it makes non-smokers wait longer for their own health care?

This exposes the fallacy of "free" health care. There is no such thing. Someone has to pay the bills, and it can either be the patients themselves, the insurers, taxpayers, or a combination of the three. No matter what happens, each of these payers will act in some way to ration care, especially regarding cost. The question is which kind of rationing allows for the best access for the individual, and which threatens the greatest intrusion on freedom and personal choice.

In a single-payer system, the government can extort individuals over their personal choices, and even have some rational support for that extortion. In the name of "fairness", they can determine that some people are too old to invest in their care. They can determine that others eat badly and therefore don't deserve to take resources away from people who eat better. At some point, that could translate into preferential treatment for vegetarians or against vegetarians, depending on the whims of the bureaucracy at the moment.

Do you want government to tell you that your mother or father are simply too old to matter anymore? Would you like to have that happen in a system where either the private care choices are out of reach because the government has removed all of the private insurers from the market, or they don't exist, as in Canada? Eventually, state run systems fall back to the bread line model, as they did in the Soviet Union, and someone has to start making choices about who gets the bread.

Posted by: sagereader | October 27, 2008 10:45 PM

Do you know what? I think republican supporters are just plain stupid.

Tony Rezko you whine. A quick search shows that Obama did not buy his land from Rezko.

They whine about Ayers, but Ayers was a national hero at a time when hundreds of US soldiers were being killed in a failed attack on Vietnam and the American public sat around like apathetic slugs saying nothing.

Bit like now.

Reverend Wright was a marine who cared for Lyndon Johnson and his sermon was citing a white Ambassador Peck.

You really ought to get out more instead of listening to the McMoron drivel because if I can know these things in Australia surely you can find them out in America.

Posted by: shepherdmarilyn | October 27, 2008 10:41 PM

Vietnam Veterans Against McCain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g

Posted by: info4 | October 27, 2008 10:38 PM

OBAMA DISTORTS AND LIES -- ALL AMERICANS TO PAY HIGHER TAXES

Senator Obama is not being truthful when he says only Americans earning $250,000 will get a tax increase.

Senator Obama plans to let the current 2007 rates lapse. The rates under Obama will return to the higher 2000 level. Senator Obama claims that letting a tax cut lapse is not a "tax increase."

But requiring Americans to pay more taxes in 2008 than in 2007 amounts to a TAX INCREASE.

For a married family, filing jointly and earning $75,000 a year, this INCREASE will be $3,074.

For a married family, filing jointly and earning $50,000, this INCREASE will be $1,512.

Even struggling American families making just $25,000 a year will see a tax INCREASE-- they'll pay $715 more in 2010 than they did in 2007.

Across the board, ALL WORKING AMERICANS WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES in their taxes with Obama's plans.

Yes, it will affect Americans even if their household income is as low as $25,000.

Posted by: sagereader | October 27, 2008 10:38 PM

It seems that McCain's ignorance of the working of the economy is only seconded by the ignorance of his "supporters" who would vote for the devil himself rather than admit the GOP are a pack of lying thieves.

Listen up people. Every democratic government collects taxes from the citizens and "spreads the wealth around". McMoron is ranting on as if Obama and the Democratic party will steal their wages or incomes from gambling or the stock market and give it to the homeless bum down the road.

It ain't going to happen.

I don't think I have ever read such drivel from the McMoron voters in any country anywhere in the world.

Why on earth would you continue to want a health care system do broken that people have to line up in parking lots to get care provided by a company that gives third world people medical care simply because you cannot understand universal health care?

Not one other country on earth has people being driven into bankruptcy to get medical care. Only in the US of A.

As for being liberal. Good grief what do you think that means you fools? Liberation brought about women's rights, the rights of black people, the rights of the child, (which the US and Somalia are the only two nations not to support by the way), the universal declaration of human rights co-authored by Eleanor Roosevelt that gives you the right to appeal to the Supreme court if your rights are trampled.

Are you really so blind and ignorant you don't know that every democratic country raises taxes and then supplies services?

McMoron clearly doesn't have a clue does he?

Posted by: shepherdmarilyn | October 27, 2008 10:35 PM

OBAMA DISTORTS AND LIES -- ALL AMERICANS TO PAY HIGHER TAXES

Senator Obama is not being truthful when he says only Americans earning $250,000 will get a tax increase.

Senator Obama plans to let the current 2007 rates lapse. The rates under Obama will return to the higher 2000 level. Senator Obama claims that letting a tax cut lapse is not a "tax increase."

But requiring Americans to pay more taxes in 2008 than in 2007 amounts to a TAX INCREASE.

For a married family, filing jointly and earning $75,000 a year, this INCREASE will be $3,074.

For a married family, filing jointly and earning $50,000, this INCREASE will be $1,512.

Even struggling American families making just $25,000 a year will see a tax INCREASE-- they'll pay $715 more in 2010 than they did in 2007.

Across the board, ALL WORKING AMERICANS WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES in their taxes with Obama's plans.

Yes, it will affect Americans even if their household income is as low as $25,000.

Posted by: sagereader | October 27, 2008 10:34 PM

McCain/Palin's propaganda about Senator Obama wanting to spread the wealth is backfiring because the average American understands that the rich have gotten much richer with the help of the Republicans. Many of us would like to see Robin Hood resurface in Washington, taking from McCain and giving to Joe the Plumber.

Posted by: bamccampbell | October 27, 2008 10:29 PM

"Religion is the opiate of the people" Karl Marx

"Small town Americans cling to their religion" Barrack Obama.

Dust of your ANIMAL FARM and watch SNL satirize the different charcters - Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Wright, Jackson, etc.
Where are Jesse Jackson, Jeremiah Wright, and Al Sharpton - the Holy Trinity.
They always have something to say. CNN hasn't used any of them as a political analyst. What gives? have they been kidnapped by the DNC and held until Nov. 5? I miss their rants and failed insights.
Jesse stated that an elected Obama would be bad for Israel since Obama is pro Palestinian. Got no mention on CNN, ABC, CBS, New Yoke Times, etc. What gives with equal treatment yellow journalism?

Posted by: canamdutch | October 27, 2008 10:27 PM

AMERICA,

VOTE for ONE BIG BLANK CHECK....

VOTE FOR OBAMA, PELOSI, REID.

NO CHECKS OR BALANCES NEEDED! And a Socialist certainly does not mind!

Posted by: Texan2007 | October 27, 2008 10:18 PM

John McCain has reason to be afraid of a redistribution of wealth. After eight years of the Republicans taking from the working class and giving to the wealthy, McCain and his rich and powerful friends don't want an end to the gravy train.

Senator Obama will be giving back to the working class, and the U.S. Treasury, what has been stolen from them by Bush with the help of McCain.

Posted by: bamccampbell | October 27, 2008 10:18 PM

The most dangerous threat to the USA today
most clearly is the New Axis Of Weasels,
or as John McCain put it and has correctly
identified as The Fraud Messiah Socialist
Marxist Muslim Extermist phony empty suit
Barack Hussein Obama,Crazy Speaker Nutcase
Nancy Pelosi,and Hopeless Harry Reid plus
out of touch with reality smirking leering
arrogant obnoxious loud mouth Joe Biden.
So do want the USA to become the Marxist
Socialist Communist Democrat United Socialist States of Amercia under Dictator
Obama,Comrades Nancy Pelosi,Joe Biden and
Horrid Harry Reid then vote for them as
that is Obams's "Change You Can Believe In!" If you love America then please Vote
for John McCain and Sarah Palin to say
No and not just NO but Hell NO to Obama
Pelsoi Biden and Reid The Axis Of Weasels!

Posted by: claudinelong | October 27, 2008 10:13 PM

I would like to say this about that. John McCain's tax policy includes a drop in the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. This 10% drop translates into a 28% drop in corprate tax. Now who do you think will be asked to pick up the slack? Is this not reverse redistribution of wealth? Do you think Joe the Plumber understands it? Most taxpayers don't understand the system let alone the politicians. Joe Q. Public takes it for granted and are fooled by the bull coming from the Republicans.

Posted by: jkelly104 | October 27, 2008 9:51 PM

McCain's idea of wealth distribution:

"Broken Securities Industry Still Has $20 Billion to Pay Bonuses
By Christine Harper and Serena Saitto

Oct. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Five straight quarters of losses and a 70 percent slide in its stock this year haven't stopped Merrill Lynch & Co. from allocating about $6.7 billion to pay bonuses.

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley, both still on track for profitable years, have set aside about $13 billion for bonuses after three quarters, down 28 percent from a year ago. Even some employees at Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., which declared the biggest bankruptcy in U.S. history last month, will get the same bonus they received a year ago."

read the rest here:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aVann0.cv9Tw&refer=home


Posted by: dogsbestfriend | October 27, 2008 9:50 PM

Last one. Radical? Yes. So much radical as that side is.

Posted by: vercinget | October 27, 2008 9:49 PM

I really think you were unable to learn something until deaths would occur in the sode of the Anglo-Americans because their will of ignorance.

Posted by: vercinget | October 27, 2008 9:45 PM

Samson151- OK, I'll bite!

At this point, I am all ears as to who might support this Idea.

Even my Man Mitt, was reluctant about it.

What I see is a Three-Fold Problem that exists-Concerning HEATH CARE and NATIONAL SECURITY!

First, our Military is filled with people from RURAL Areas! As they retire, or just go back after their stints, they are left HUNDREDS of Miles, from any Military hospital facilities! THAT, just ain't right!

Second, say we do suffer something like a Germ assault...

Wide spread areas of our country have no Military or Government centers embedded in the communities, to act as FIRST Responders.

Third, our Private Practice is OVERWHELMED!

Lawsuits, Free-Loaders(Many of which are illegal!), and Insurance Night-Mares for both Patients and the Practitioners, combined with a MAJOR Shortage of needed General Practitioners being developed, have DESTROYED the Industry!

IMO-What we need, is not so much "Socialized" Medicine, as EXPANDED Military government Facilities offering Education for Work, and a Tort-Free environment for dedicated Practitioners ready to offer their services in a well paid, but PROTECTED Environment, some Private enterprises do not offer(See: John Edwards).

When Expanded Military Hospitals are EVERYWHERE, our Military get needed help locally, First response is THERE, and Sharp Individuals have a way to earn while learning!
Private Practice no longer gets shorted by Dead-Beats, and those not Legal, have arrived at not only their source of Treatment, but also at a FEDERAL Establishment willing to re-Patriot them with their Home Lands, while paying for the trip with a FINE for their Employer!

THAT, is how we can kill several Birds, with One shot!

Personally, I seriously NEED Treatment right now, that I'd be willing to let a Dentist who knows as much about Dentistry, as Barak O'Bomba-Nation knows about being an Executive, work on me-With say someone like a Mitt Romney overseeing "Barry"!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 27, 2008 9:44 PM

yeah hi, do you believe a state circuit judge should go to prison for attempting to rule that attempted murder by forcible suffocation not only isn't a crime at all in florida, it isn't a tort at all in florida, in fact it's a medical procedure, for which priviledge i'm forced to give the state my whole life savings?

doesn't that sound bad?

this is a real lawsuit, orange co. case # 2003 ca 5314. i am totally unrepresented, haven't been able to find a lawyer in 7 years. the judge is cynthia mackinnon, and if i could fire her i would have fired her four years ago. after all this time i still have no clue whether she is republican or democrat.

Posted by: srz25 | October 27, 2008 9:44 PM

I hate to say it but this is fear-mongering. Yes, one party in power, as were the Republicans, leads to an imbalance in what's implemented, abuse of power, and, yes, even corruption. But that takes time and it happens slowly and the Republicans, dear Senator McCain, haven't proven to be exactly trustworthy when it comes to managing things. So, for a while, the pendulum swings, until the Democrats fall prey to Lord Acton's maxim: Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. So, for now, unfortunately, Senator McCain's argument is specious and probably won't carry much weight. Sorry, try it in about another two years.

Posted by: OCPatriot | October 27, 2008 9:43 PM

Are you unable to think that is mainly about avoiding speculation and personal interest on the money for health care and retirement? Where do you think that money will come from? A failing system based only in free financial means open to sane and insane minds? Many of you deserve the fate of the Captain of the Titanic.

Posted by: vercinget | October 27, 2008 9:38 PM

Those G.D. Liberals sure do like to raise taxes. At least you might be forgiven believing that by being exposed to the clatter from right wingers over past 30 years. Under Bush, wealthy Republicans got a very significant tax cut. The middle class got the shaft. And, under Bush, spending spiraled out of control. Borrow and spend Conservatives. I guess they believed their own propaganda that said the U.S. would grow its way out of debt. I don't see any reason to reinstate the money giveaway program formerly known as Welfare. But there are serious social problems that only the government is able to solve. Such as, for example, the fact that France has a working model National Health Service that provides to all citizens of France access to doctors, nurses, and hospitals. And the French plan costs one-half as much as the for-profit system here in the U.S. that fails to deliver anything except in extremis to the uninsured. Calling health insurance "insurance" is a misuse of the word. Being insured simply means you have access to some health services whereas the uninsured have not (except if they are wealthy). The "system" got the way it is because of wage and price controls immediately after World War II. To attract workers, large corporations added benefits, to include "hospitalization" coverage. So, if you work, usually, you got medical coverage on account of you were employed. Then the right wingers got busy eliminating unions, pushing jobs overseas, padding their own "compensation" and reducing employee benefits. At the same time, the cost of health care services increased exponentially. Is a for-profit business going to do anything to improve the situation for beneficiaries? I think not.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | October 27, 2008 9:34 PM

As it is usual in the USA. Taxes are evil loots make by a government who the citizen knows nothing about it. A government which really is the final responsible for Justice, General Welfare and Domestic Tranquility. Give it nothing and it can only return you nothing.

Posted by: vercinget | October 27, 2008 9:26 PM

Hey Mc Cain is a socialist!!!!!!! this sounds like a "redistribution of wealth" comment.....

"I would rather give the great American middle class additional tax cuts and let you keep that money and invest it in your future."

so what classes fund this tax cut hey John..HELLO HELLO John GRANDPA MC CAIN...throwing stuff everywhere and slowly going senile.....in fact that may be where he is more dangerous - a Senile president is probably a higher risk than one who drops dead and passes the baton to a bimbo

Posted by: colinemery | October 27, 2008 9:25 PM


Life is a open book..

This is the calibar of the mind that people are chosing..

Remember Joe the Plumber.. well he said, you will not get punished in the interview with the Red Ticket Candidate.

Ecomony talk has ended, people discovered his underlying of spearding the wealth of business people..

People esp. trusted Obama for all his economy statements.. this one was accounting issue, THEY DONT TRUST HIM NOW.
Go to Joe the Plumber of people Videos.. on McCain site..they will do the accounting for Obama. They get it.

IN PUBLIC ARENA, THIS IS PG-13.
Added Obama: "God bless the people of South Carolina, God bless America, and (OBCENE WORD)BLANK you, Nate."

AND FUTHER HIS IS IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5411_

THE CURRENT NEWS...SECURITY

LIBERTY VS LIBERIAL

I VOTE FOR THE NEXT YOUNG AMERICAN PRESIDENT..

AMERICA HAS THE BEST YOUNG CANIDATES.


Posted by: suttons77hotmailcom | October 27, 2008 9:19 PM

People this past year have had to tighten their belts to make up for the exorbitant cost of fuel.The high cost of fuel in turn raised the prices of every consumer product from farming &shipping food, to producing and shipping other products.Electric companies passed on their higher production costs with large rate increases. We have spent less because we had less to spend.We quit eating out as much or at all, quit going to the movies, quit buying new products and only stuck to the bare necessities. Spending less because we have less to spend in turn creates more job losses. It is a real economical catch-22. Now reports of people who can't afford their necessary medications are added to the list of the suffering. Just as gas prices start to fall some and they are still no where near cheap, OPEC cuts production of oil by 1.5 million barrels a day. There is no end in sight in this situation. We spent 168 Billion on the last stimulas pkg. That could have gone a long way toward getting us started on the road to energy independence.Why doesn't our country invest in getting us out of this mess instead of their quick fixes that don't work? Just read a fascinating book The Manhattan Project of 2009 by Jeff Wilson . Every member of congress to read this book too, and fast!

Posted by: BeyondGreen | October 27, 2008 9:12 PM

thecannula-

Thanks for the opportunity to discuss our differing positions.

Rooster54-
Sorry, I was at work.
You have a problem with Jack Welch. I see him as a money magnet: wherever he goes, money follows. He pulled GE out of Rhode Island and thousands of middle class workers lost their jobs and are still suffering. So, the officials of Rhode Island are reconsidering their 9% state corporate tax rate- what do you think they should do? Isn't it the same thing WE should do on Nov 4th? Let's cut US corporate tax rates so Jack's successors running multinational corporations don't see the US the way Jack saw Rhode Island...But Rooster, It's Not Personal- It's Just Business...

Obama is now on tape from 2001 confirming that he wants to redistribute wealth and change the supreme court to assist in this task-

John Mccain wants to keep business in America by cutting corporate taxes-

Socialism (Redistributive economy) has failed EVERYWHERE it's been tried- according to the World Health Org., countries with the highest rate of suicide are all socialist- take away incentive and employment goes down, suicide goes up- is that the country for which you will vote?


Posted by: thecannula | October 27, 2008 9:11 PM

Ohhhhh, What a Cute Picture!

President McCain, with a Smiling and competent Economist/Businessman Vice President Mitt Romney behind him! ;~)

All because he made the switch-

IN TIME!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 27, 2008 9:09 PM

If I remember my Logic seminar, this claim that McCain is making -- warning that if he loses, we'll have socialism, because Democrats will be in charge -- is called 'the argument to adverse consequences'. There's an underlying fallacy involved: the assumption that Democrats prefer socialism. The record of the Democratic Party doesn't support that conclusion (it's the Party of contentious diversity, after all) so the argument dies. That doesn't stop McCain and Palin from parroting it, of course.

Reminds me of a young African-American conservative who once insisted that a universal health plan was a bad idea because sooner or later the neocons would be back in power, and they'd make sure it didn't work right.

In other words, someday healthcare would be run by jerks like him, and then we'd all be sorry.

You know, it does make a strange sort of sense...

Posted by: Samson151 | October 27, 2008 9:09 PM

Hypocrisy, thy name is McCain. For 28 of the past 40 years, Republicans have lived in The White House. That's 70% of the time. For much of that time, the GOP controlled Congress, especially from '94 til 2006. During that time, Republicans dissed their Democratic 'colleagues' so egregiously the Dems weren't allowed to participate in House-Senate conference committees. GOP control was total--Oval Office, House, and Senate. And we are seeing what GOP single-party government has wrought--social, economic, and military disaster. McCain's accusations ring the bitterest kind of hollow at a time when thousands of workers are losing jobs, countless homes are being abandoned due to foreclosures, and The Pentagon is blowing $10 BILLION every month in Iraq. Since 2000, median income--middle-class incomes--have fallen lower and lower every year. In 2000, we were paying down the national debt. Now, it's too big to count. All while Republicans were in complete control. This unprecedented fiasco is the result of Republican policies and practices. Oh, yes, and almost 4,200 American families are grieving the loss of their loved ones killed in George Bush's wars. You Republicans did it, McCain, not the junior Democratic Senator from Illinois. You want to blame somebody? Cast your aged eyes on your mirror. It's you and your Republican henchmen who are to blame.

Posted by: free9604 | October 27, 2008 8:55 PM

Americas worst nightmare Obama, Pelosi, Reid running the country during tough and dangerous times. This drop in oil prices is the cartel sucking the Americans in until after the election because they know the democrats will never follow through on offshore drilling.all of you who may vote democrat 3 months from now you will be paying four dollars a gallon or more and the democrats will never drill except your pocket book.

Posted by: musing | October 27, 2008 8:54 PM

During 1960's, there was an "emotion crisis" among American youth. Youngsters felt that they were oppressed by current political system, that was against people's free will.
Why is John F.Kennedy so great? Kennedy acutely perceived youngsters' resentment, and realized that American society was already gravely dangeous. His "great society" plan eased people's anger and hatred, and saved America out of a potential revolution, that could tear the country apart by violence.
Today, why so many American voters, especially youngester firmly support Obama? Because another "emotion crisis" is coming back. People keep asking themselves: Why should we live like this? Should we be silent when upper class oppress us? The answer is, NO.
Deep inside, many people consider president Kennedy "the savior". And now, Obama seems to be the only hope for oppressed American people, so that, Obama is supposed be "the savior" in 21st century.
American society is on top of volcano crate, and old political system can't work and solve the crisis. If people stick in a rebellious state of mind, a violent revolution will break out sooner or later.

Posted by: panyingji | October 27, 2008 8:51 PM


Reply to:
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Really?

Which tax do you find the most burdensome?

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse


This response is not by the original poster to whom thegreatpotato..... replied to.

The increased taxes for most small businesses owners that are S corps, sole propritorships, partnerships, etc where the taxes for the companies is paid by the owner(s) on their personal Federal Tax Returns would be the increase in the marginal rates, the additional 8.5% to 17% most commonly thought to be 10% for fica on income above 250,000, and the fine or some sort of payment to the Obama health plan if the owner currently doesn't provide healthcare through the company. The first 2 are about 15% extra and if the last one applies it will be a very hefty new expense. All will cut into profits and all will require a business owner to look at where he will need to cut expenses, or concommitantly where he won't be able to invest in areas that provide more productivity, increased sales, and etc.

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 8:44 PM

Mharwick-Interesting Points. But, I agree that O'Bomba-Nation is NOT another "Hitler".

Nazism, was fascist!

Barak, is Socialist.

What the US faces, is not even "Barry"!

It is the World Labor Party hiding in that Empty Suit!

Look across the Western Hemisphere, and behold the ideological Battle-Lines being drawn between Left and Right.

We already have been whammied by Chavez, Castro, Evo Morales and others rallying to the Socialists call.

A MAJOR Tipping Point, is going to be this Election!

I cannot believe the Media talks about dresses, when the balance of Ideologies is at hand in this entire Hemisphere!

Mitt Romney and John McCain BOTH understand the IMPORTANCE of the NAFTA!

Just FORGET about Messico!

THEY, want Protectionist Measures? Great, they Protected themselves RIGHT OUT OF THE PICTURE!

Next!

And with a Republican Victory, NEXT it will be!

COSTA RICA!
PANAMA!
COLOMBIA! and my Fav!, Peru! ;~)

These are lands of Opportunity!

These are where capitalistic ventures can turn the Tide back!

But, they NEED us! They NEED, Venture Capitalists like Mitt Romney!

The US does not have to be the only place Hispanics can go to get ahead!

Socialism?

Elitists who have control of the socialist masses, NEED POOR Masses to bribe!

NOT Educate and lift up!

There is Soooooo much, NOT being said right now;

IT's CRIMINAL!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 27, 2008 8:32 PM

Amen Right On Sen John McCain as my own
biggest nightmare is about finding both
Socialist/Marxist/Liberal Democrat Crazy
Messiah Fraud Barack Hussein Obama and
Goofy Motor Mouth Joe Biden.and Nutcase
Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Horrid Harry Reid
in Charge of the USA! I work for my money
and I damn sure do not want Barack "Spread
The Wealth" Hussein Obama and Joe Biden
and Nutso Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and
their Band of Socialist/Marxist/Communist
Light Liberal Democrat Do Nothing Foul Ups
and their ACORN Pals Stealing My Money,
Stealing My Wallet,Sanatching My Purse for
that Crazy Spread the Wealth Obama Insanity! Vote for John McCain/Sarah Palin!

Posted by: sandylong5274 | October 27, 2008 8:28 PM

RealDataIsBest: When McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, the folks over 250K were the "comfortable rich" and those under were the "hard working middle class" McCain said the tax cuts should have gone to. Now that Obama is proposing exactly the same thing (McCain simply wimped out on the idea of letting anyone's taxes go up, even if they shouldn't have gone down in the first place), the over 250K crowd are the hard working folks, and those under are the lazy poor. give me a break

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 27, 2008 8:27 PM

Geez the neocons and right wingnuts diatribes really DO sound just like what was said about FDR back in the 1930s. It is almost uncanny. If you don't believe it, go read contemporary right leaning newspapers and business periodicals from the day.

The sky is falling!

It is the end of capitalism!

The Bolsheviks are taking over!

America is doomed!

Yet every Republican presidential candidate I can recall always seems to be comfortable evoking FDR in a positive frame of reference.

How little faith they have in America, the constitution and American citizens. Makes you wonder who the REAL Americans are.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 27, 2008 8:26 PM

Companies create jobs! I know that it is hard to understand, but I own a small company and if we pay less taxes we add equipment and jobs. We make over $250k per year and have just 22 people. How many other small businesses will get hurt by this guys taxes????

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Really?

Which tax do you find the most burdensome?

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 8:22 PM

linda_521, please name one thing that giving the middle class a tax cut will do? Will they spend it? Maybe on a flat screen ($ to Japan), or even a car ($ to Japan). Then what good did that tax cut do?

Companies create jobs! I know that it is hard to understand, but I own a small company and if we pay less taxes we add equipment and jobs. We make over $250k per year and have just 22 people. How many other small businesses will get hurt by this guys taxes????

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 27, 2008 8:16 PM

mbernardez, tax cuts are not wealth redistribution. The money that the aren't paying in taxes, they earned. There is a big difference between taking money from someone who earned it and giving it to someone that didn't!!!!!

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 27, 2008 8:07 PM

Why is there no coverage of the "redistribution of wealth" comments of Obama from a few years back. This just ties together all of the lies and deception from Obama during the campaign. Look up redistribution on the radio and listen to what he said.

He is going to destroy this country, listen to him in his own words.

Posted by: RealDataIsBest | October 27, 2008 8:05 PM

McCain's "redistribution" tax argument is completely inconsistent.
Bush's tax cust ARE REDISTRIBUTING INCOME in favor of the wealthiest 1% -duplicating its share of GDP in 8 years-. It is "socialism for the ultra-rich".
Bush used the government taxing powers to redistribute in favor of his own social class. Typical socialistic approach.
The only way to not practice "socialism" with taxes would be a flat tax that keeps income inequalities untouched.
In a depression downturn, asking people unemployed or with their savings vaporized by the stock market and housing meltdown to wait for tax cuts to increase their income is ludicrous, not just unfair. It will not work, because there is zero economic effect for the tax cut.
Redistributing wealth even more in favor of the top 1 % will not help unemployed, foreclosed and pension-less middle class Americans to get any better.

Posted by: mbernardez | October 27, 2008 8:05 PM

Barak Obama will most likely become President. Democrats will rule the Congress and eventually a total of five, there are four now, liberal Justices on the Supreme Court will sit.
Those who have studied their history know that in 1933 the German people longed for change from the Government they had. They were out of work and the economy was bad so they elected a psychotic, charismatic, media supported liar who promised them everything and vowed to take it from the rich.

Obama is not Hitler although his election now is based on the same principals of the big lie, promises of change and bad economic times although nothing like Germany. Israel is in real peril with an Obama presidency based on his close ties to Louis Farrakhan and Wright both haters of Jews and Israel and Farrakhan called Jews "bloodsuckers" and Hitler "a great man"

Obama is a stealth, a friend and associate of corrupt felons, anti American terrrorists, haters racists and bigots. Never has a candidate had so many close associations to so many disgusting and hateful wackos. Never before has a candidate had such a thin resume.
The perfect storm with give Obama virtually all power to become a dictator. The Congress, the Court and the Executive. No checks, no balances. We are all subject to being taxed and destroyed thereby and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

McCain is not a perfect candidate..far from it. But McCain is a true American hero and patriot who will not turn this country into a Marxist mess. Hitler wanted to rule the world and attacked bogus enemies. Obama will appease real enemies and allow the world to rule America.

Posted by: mharwick | October 27, 2008 8:04 PM

I've been concerned with Obama's committment to Israel after he changed his stance on Jerusalem immediately following Palestinian complaint 1 day after AIPAC-

Gateway Pundit
Friday, October 24, 2008
Confirmed: MSM Holds Video Of Barack Obama Attending Jew-Bash & Toasting a Former PLO Operative... Refuse to Release the Video!

LA Times writer Peter Wallsten wrote about Barack Obama's close association with former Palestinian operative Rashid Khalidi back in April.
Wallsten discussed a dinner held back in 2003 in honor of Khalidi, a critic of Israel and advocate for Palestinian rights.
Barack Obama has denied his close association with Khalidi, too.
According to Wallsten the evening not surprisingly turned into a classic Jew-bash:
"During the dinner a young Palestinian American recited a poem accusing the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticizing U.S. support of Israel. If Palestinians cannot secure their own land, she said, "then you will never see a day of peace."
One speaker likened "Zionist settlers on the West Bank" to Osama bin Laden, saying both had been "blinded by ideology."
Barack Obama also praised the former PLO operative during the event.
And, Obama confessed that his family often shared dinner with the Khalidis:
His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases... It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation -- a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table," but around "this entire world."
...The event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The (LA)Times.
Khalidi and the Obamas were great friends in Chicago and often shared meals together.
By the way, Khalidi was also best friends with Bill Ayers.
Wallston was one of the few mainstream media reporters to report on this radical Obama associate.

Wallston said that the article was written after he watched video taken at the Khalidi going away party. When I asked him about the video he said that as far as he was concerned he was through with the story.

I asked him if he was planning on releasing this video of Obama toasting the radical Khalidi at this Jew-bash. He told me he was not releasing the video. He also would not comment on his source for the video. So, there you have it.
The LA Times has video of Obama toasting a former PLO operative at a Jew-bash but will not release the video.
This is outrageous.
Obviously, this video would do great damage to Obama who struggles with Jewish voters due to his circle of close anti-Semitic friends.
Maybe this is the reason it is not being released?
Barack Obama funnelled thousands of dollars of cash to Rashidi's anti-Israel Foundation through his work on the Woods Fund.


Posted by: thecannula | October 27, 2008 7:52 PM

McCain wants to give more money (via tax breaks, etc.) to companies; for them to trickle down. They put it in their pockets; invest it in bad investments; make inferior goods; and hire someone at minimum wage. No benefits. TRICKLE DOWN DOESN'T WORK UNLESS YOU FORCE IT. Grow up John. I can't understand why anyone would vote for that. It has been proven not to work

Posted by: linda_521 | October 27, 2008 7:47 PM

"I have been through tough times like this before..."
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I thought this was a once in a lifetime crisis... maybe McCain is old as dirt!

Posted by: michael4 | October 27, 2008 7:44 PM

Morgan Stanley's current budget for pay and bonuses of approximately $10B exceeds the worth of its stock. Really, any further criticism of Obama "spreading the wealth around" or increasing taxes on the rich is moot, pointless, dead, fini, over. We know who is robbing the middle class, and who are the real socialists: it isn't the Democrats.

Posted by: csintala79 | October 27, 2008 7:39 PM

"McCain Hits George W Bush and dimwit US Secretary Elaine Chao On the Economy." Much better title, and thanks, McCain, I've been calling Bush and Chao out for 8 years for missing their monthly jobs creation target.

That said about two of the biggest liars in US history, I want Roger Ailes, Rush Limbaugh, drug addict, and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth working their butts off in the coming six days.

Posted by: kevten | October 27, 2008 7:36 PM

johs...Wiggan...

mccain...palin...

two pairs of idiots

Posted by: michael4 | October 27, 2008 7:33 PM

of course the funny part about the divided government argument is that McCain has to fight with republican senators for who gets to use it, because they both can't.

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 27, 2008 7:29 PM

Maybe another "Maverick" was not what the Capitalism loving Americans wanted.

Maybe, we wanted a COMPETENT #2, who also possessed Statesman qualities, an Economic Mind to balance McCain's military one, and a REAL Conservative.

Wake-up Time Senator! :-o

Sarah Palin is not even nearly as good for your Veep;

As the Mittster!

Then...

Jobs McCain?

For AMERICANS?

How about listening to what Mitt was promising, and also promise to NAIL ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS!

Hint-Child molesters, Sex Offenders, Escaped Cons, and many other Legal, but also Not-so Legal, elements of our own society, get embedded into neighborhoods due to getting Employment under the Tax Table!
Then, IF, just one Bin-Laden type being able to get set up in this Country can amount to some 4,000 Deaths of US citizens or MORE;

You can consider the aspect of "Terrorist", along with the others!

National Security Issues, oh great Protectors(Bush, Reid, Peloser, O'Bomba, and McCain);

What, I mean what the F', do you call TWENTY MILLION ILLEGAL RESIDENTS?

"Eagle One...

Eagle One, This is Houston Control...

You have left Orbit!...

Please RETURN!-ASAP!

Bring the Mittster in!!!

Get Sarah a Post!...

That is ALL" ! :~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 27, 2008 7:06 PM

gdavis4

I have seen your idea of good government and economies, it was the Jimmy Carter years. His policies and ideas more closely match Obama's than Clinton's. Obama will not be given the same gifts Clinton got, so the best comparison is with Carter. Clinton got his tax increases but had to give up on capital gains and had to cut that. Clinton was given an economy coming out a recession, a peace dividend that was created by Reagan and delivered during Bush's term. (As for Bush, his policies and Clinton's were almost identical as Clinton co-opted quite a number of Republican issues to win and he definitely was the superior politician). The peace dividend was what eliminated the debt during his term and the capital gains tax cut the engine that drove his economy. The Dot Com run up had a few good winners and a great many losers. These losers were built with the idea of only going public with an IPO and no sustainable business model. Venture Capitalist poured a great deal of money into creating the "Clinton Era JobS" and they were quite high paying which did allow for trickle down, but they were plainly just empty jobs waiting to be found out. They were in the first year of Bush's term. Clinton got a free ride, with no real foreign policy issues, and those that should have gotten his attention didn't (first world trade bombing, Cole, etc). Obama's plans are very close to the plans Hoover thought would bring the economy out of the bust. They didn't and neither did FDR's. FDR would try this and try that and he prolonged the depression far longer than it should have, yet he was successful in blaming Republicans for his failures. It will be interesting to see how Walmart handles unions and what that will do to the price of goods (Carter stagflation comes to mind). The movement of investment capital out of the US will probably be staggering. Many more of the super rich will betting cashing out in these markets from now until Jan 1 2009. (An interesting story about the owner of Miami Dolfins wanting to get his deal done this year so he doesn't have to pay the increase in tax that he is expecting.) I am by no means rich and will profit from Obama's largesse, but at one time I was rich and know how you think when your are rich, know how an added tax burden is nothing more than an increased line item when it his and doesn't come from a concomitant growth in your business. It forces unwanted cuts in other expenses if they can be had, and the first place to get the cuts is the least or marginally productive employees. I think you enthusiasm for raising the boats of all is going to be just a pipe dream. We will hit 8.5% unemployment long before we see a recovery from an Obama/Pelosi/Reid triumphrant.

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 7:02 PM

McCain still doesn't get it! How pathetic. Look, McCain, promised to outsource our jobs. When he spoke about his support of free trade he said that sending our jobs elsewhere was "an essential part of U.S. foreign policy". Someone has to tell home and all of the other fools up in Washington, both Democrats and Republicans, that their use of our jobs to pay off campaign contributions, as a pawn for foreign support of foreign policy, for anything at all, is completely unacceptable! We WILL turn you out of office. Every person I know wants tariff's brought back, wants duties imposed, on all goods and services made as a result of outsourcing. Moreover, we want punitive taxes on companies that outsource jobs or use guest workers, and, if they move a factory overseas, we want our government o flat out destroy those companies, remove patent and trademark protections, hit any U.S. offices with taxes that will bankrupt them. We could care less about corporations and investors that move factories or jobs off shore, we WANT taxes and more taxes on them! We want Indian and Chinese guest workers deported en mass, an end to the H1-B and L-1 visas and jobs for our own plentiful and unemployed U.S. workforce. We don't want more guest worker visas, we want then GONE. We want transferring or using our information in data warehouses in India made illegal, we wan Call Centers here closed down. We need the jobs here. It's job, Jobs, JOBS. If taxes, Taxes, TAXES are a tool to get those jobs, tax away!

Posted by: mibrooks27 | October 27, 2008 6:47 PM

gdavis4: I believe you misread my post. Those "names" are the ones republicans have been throwing at Obama for having the audacity to propose the exact same tax cuts for the middle class that McCain proposed when he opposed the tax cuts for what he then called the "comfortably rich."

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 27, 2008 6:41 PM

I'm not surprised that Grampy McCain is getting his butt kicked in this election because I'm still trying to figure out what the McCain campaign message is, other than?:
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"Don't vote for the scary black guy"
-MCCAIN/PALIN 08!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 6:40 PM

For those of us who want something acutally done about our problems, getting the Republican obstuctionists out of the way is a welcome change. Progress means evolving, not staying the same.

Posted by: michael4 | October 27, 2008 6:38 PM

I hope John McCain gets exactly what he wants and deserves on election day. All the votes of everyone making more than $250,000 per year. Before taxes. Except for the ones he alienated with one of his other well un-thought-out arguments. His ship will be sinking and he'll be muttering: "But he'll raise taxes and Sarah Palin is qualified to be Vice President", blub, blub. On the plus side, you are giving the American people a look at what a real Republican is like.

Posted by: jgh2 | October 27, 2008 6:35 PM

McCain and Palin hold an meeting to discuss ecomonic policies.

C Barbie: John, could I go shopping again, that should jump start the economy?

Posted by: DrWho2 | October 27, 2008 6:28 PM

1. If that is his economic team, we are doomed!!!! What does ceo from ebay, former lietuant governer of MD know about global economy.

2. Why would anyone want to vote for a party whose vice president candidate is already lying to us from the get go. Palin lied about rejecting money for the 'bridge to nowhere'. It's just a taste of more BS to come. I'm so sick and tired of these liars! They are just grabbing at straws and employing scare tactics. That's how that got the congress to go along with the war- scare tactics. Only the blind keep falling for the same stuff.

Posted by: lingx99 | October 27, 2008 6:22 PM

johs

Has it dawned on you that the press is not in love with Obama? That maybe they realize that the current president was more wrong on policy than right and Obama may have better ideas on how to run the country? You republicans are soo arrogant that you think the presidency is some entitlement that you inherit each election and if you don't there is some unfair conspiracy from the rest of the country to take away what is perceived as your entitlement by your party. The nerve of voters to dare vote for Obama, how dare anyone in the media say anything positive about him over our candidate. How dare those peasants reject us. They know not what they do? We are their kings and they are disrespecting the crown by rejecting us. Maybe if you run your kingdoms better the peasants wont rebel. BTW, your trickle down theory was proven wrong in the 80's. It only works for the people who already have, which is who most republicans consider when they create policy anyway. Everyone else are considered losers who don't deserve entitlement anyway therefore they get what the rich don't want. If your economic theories were sound they would have worked. And blamming democrats that were literally locked out of congressional meetings while congress was dominated by republicans as an excuse for the wall st mess is not genuine. There is one bill that came up for vote the whole time republicans had control of congress addressing the issue and you try to tell us that a democrat majority, too weak to stop every other republican agenda stop a majority from passing a deregulation bill. Give me credit for being smart enough to realize that the bill was created to restrict loans on low income people, not address how the loans were being bundled and sold as credit swaps, nor did the republican bill address price gouging in the housing market by developers, realitors and appraisers. That is why democrats rejected it, because it only addressed an attempt to stop lending to low income buyers. And if republicans were really interested in getting control of the problem with a majority couldn't they had been more persistent and willing to continue to work with democrats to bring about a bill that addresses all issues in order to get it passed? What do you think the whole country is a bunch of idiots? Some of us actually read the details of bills in congress. You and Joe Scarborough think we are all mindless idiots who vote based on what political pundits say.

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 6:17 PM

wapo, PLEASE FIX YOUR WEBSITE.

Posted by: michael4 | October 27, 2008 6:17 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:16 PM

Actually the Bush tax cuts brought us out of the devasting blows of the burst dot com and telecom bubbles (and the recession they brought) created during Clinton years and great credit taken by Clinton on high paying jobs that really had no economic value to the country except in rare cases.

INCREASING PRODUCTIVITY HAS NO VALUE?


And the major blow of the Al Queda attack on 9/11. No other President since the Great Depression has had to come out from under so great anumber of hits to the economy.

SPARE US THE HYPERBOLE.

A good example of the benefit to the government was that with the tax cut for just the top 1% resulted in an increase of tax revenues by 2 times what the top 1% paid during the Clinton years.

EVEN ASSUMING YOUR MATH IS CORRECT, YOUR APPARENT CONCLUSION REQUIRES ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL.

His recovery would have lasted longer if the democrats (and some RINO Republicans) had put in place controls on Fannie and Freddie when he wanted.

BLAME IT ON THE DEMS? THE REPUBS HAD CONTROL OF CONGRESS AND THE ADMINISTRATION DURING 6 YEARS, AND CONGRESS WAS CONTROLLED BY THE REPUBS PRIOR TO THAT AS WELL.

The current problems were brought on by the bundling of subprime and other high risk loans (forced onto the mortgage industry to provide by the government) with "A" credit loans. This bundling created an environment where the Financial institutions had to set the value of all loans in the bundle to $0 because no one would buy them, which created the need capital and for bailouts and the freezing of the credit markets.

YOU REALLY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'VE COMPLETELY IGNORED THE MUCH LARGER ROLE OF CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS IN YOUR CONFUSED ANALYSIS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T "FORCE" ANYONE TO BUNDLE DIDDLY, OR ASSIGN ANY CREDIT RATING. ALSO, THE REQUIREMENT OF ADDITIONAL CAPITAL WAS BROUGHT ABOUT TO AVOID INSOLVENCY (LIABILITIES GREATER THAN ASSETS) BECAUSE THE ASSETS WERE REQUIRED TO BE "MARKED TO MARKET" (NOT ZERO), IN THE SHORT TERM.

To show how manipulative the press is on the thinking of the average American, not 8 months ago when everyone was railing about the economy, 75% said it was in bad shape, yet 95% of the same people polled said they were doing quite well.

AGAIN, ASSUMING YOUR MATH IS CORRECT, CHARACTERISTICS OF INDIVIDUAL UNITS MAY VARY FROM THE SET WITHOUT CONTRADICTION. IS IT EVIDENCE OF "PRESS MANIPULATION"? HARDLY. RARELY HAS THE PRESS NEEDED TO MANIPULATE ME INTO THINKING MY WALLET IS EMPTY.

If something is said often enough even if it isn't factual it becomes de facto factual which is what you get with Obama and the press.

I'M GUESSING YOU'VE HEARD OF GOEBBELS. SOMEHOW I KNEW THAT WAS COMING...IT'S ALL OBAMA'S FAULT, SOME CONSPIRACY TO UNDERMINE THE WORLD ECONOMY! DOES THE "PRESS" INCLUDE TALK RADIO AND FAUX NEWS?

YOU SEEM TO KNOW JUST ENOUGH TO BE DANGEROUS.

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 5:41 PM

Posted by: michael4 | October 27, 2008 6:16 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:16 PM

johs wrote: The current problems were brought on by the bundling of subprime and other high risk loans (forced onto the mortgage industry to provide by the government) with "A" credit loans.

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I agree with you on everything except the "forced by the government" part. In fact, I would say that this bundling became so problematic because the government was derilect in its duty to protect the American people from the excesses of the financial industry.

We were told for an awful long time that Wall Street could be it's own watchdog. Hopefully, we now understand that the government needs to take a more active role in safeguarding the country from the "irrational exuberance" that can drive some financial institutions.

Posted by: tsawyer_mv | October 27, 2008 6:15 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

There's an ancient chinese republican saying - give a poor man a tax break and you feed him for a day; give a company a tax break so he can give a poor man a job and you feed him for the rest of his life. The ancient chinese democratic response to this is, of course, go fish...

Posted by: hariseldonsr | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

Obama does want to raise taxes, for the rich people, people who make over 250,000 a year which they deserve to get higher taxes because right now they pay nothing. Ordinary hardworking citizens need a tax break. McCain and Palin plan to raise taxes for regular hard working citizens and plan to have the rich pay none tell me where is the justice in that. And palin do not let me get started on her but if you want to check out some exclusive footage on Governor Palin go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos and tell me if you want this woman to be apart of running our country.

Posted by: gullychris88 | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

johs wrote: The current problems were brought on by the bundling of subprime and other high risk loans (forced onto the mortgage industry to provide by the government) with "A" credit loans.

---

I agree with you on everything except the "forced by the government" part. In fact, I would say that this bundling became so problematic because the government was derilect in its duty to protect the American people from the excesses of the financial industry.

We were told for an awful long time that Wall Street could be it's own watchdog. Hopefully, we now understand that the government needs to take a more active role in safeguarding the country from the "irrational exuberance" that can drive some financial institutions.

Posted by: tsawyer_mv | October 27, 2008 6:13 PM

I hope John McCain gets exactly what he wants and deserves. All the votes of everyone making more than $250,000 per year. Before taxes. Except for the ones he alienated with one of his other well un-thought-out arguments. His ship will be sinking and he'll be muttering: But he'll raise taxes and Sarah Palin is qualified to be Vice President, blub, blub. On the plus side, you are giving the American people a look at what a real Republican is like.

Posted by: jgh2 | October 27, 2008 6:07 PM

The real danger is 8 more yrs of bush policies which is exactly what mccain will give us all...vote for Obama for a change in washington and America:)

Posted by: smorrow | October 27, 2008 5:59 PM

DANGEROUS MEDIA BIAS

Can anyone explain in lucid terms the overwhelming bias that this election has created across almost the whole of the Fourth Estate? It's hard to understand. I understand the intense dislike of Bush’s rush into Iraq, and the backlash, but he’s not responsible of the current financial calamity the country is now burdened with. Clinton would be a more appropriate culprit, among others.

It seems that all objectivity has evaporated from our news channels. Is this the beginning of a serious disintegration of democracy? I understand Putin's control over Russian media,.. he shoots or poisons those who disagree with him, but what we are witnessing happening here with the news media is dangerous. Even Obama supporters should worry.

Please let me know at http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/

... I'd enjoy hearing from you. Can we make sense of this?

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Posted by: JamesRaider | October 27, 2008 5:53 PM

Actually the Bush tax cuts brought us out of the devasting blows of the burst dot com and telecom bubbles (and the recession they brought) created during Clinton years and great credit taken by Clinton on high paying jobs that really had no economic value to the country except in rare cases
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Those bubbles and tax cuts were brought about by the same people, the Reichs and Gramms, and such, who advocated deregulation, it was Wall Street, with help from Washington.

Same D and R's, those for the people, you know, those who hire brilliant operatives to run the press, the blogs, that sort of thing...

LOL.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 5:53 PM

The problem is McCain's camp thinks they can advertise their way to winning like this is a campaign between coke and pepsi, McDonalds vs Burgerking etc. They think my product does not have to be that good, just have the right advertising and people will buy it over other products regardless of its quality. But when people have tasted your product and it does not taste good then you have to come up with a better tasting product eventually or people will try a new product. Obama is the new product that people are willing to try, not because they know how good it is, but because they already know what the other one taste like and they dont like it anymore. Its quite simple I don't know why republicans don't get that. Instead republicans are making ads saying don't try the other product because its made of poison, it might kill you, it might make you sick. This type of advertising does not sell right now. They need to come up with something that sells them, not discredits the other guy. When Reagan beat carter in 1980 it wasn't because people thought the republican party was soo great, in fact most voters did not really know the republicans policy outside of what nixon's, they simply ask themselves the same question that Reagan ask them, are you better off than you were four years ago? Thats all it took, and it took democrats 12 long years to learn that they had to be different to win over voters in an election, They had to become centrist in the voters eyes. And like now, as well as like 1980, the voters did not feel like they were better off. Republicans, open your eyes. Stop being stubborn, cranky and upset with everyone who is rejecting your policy. You have no one to blame but yourselves. You had everything, and manage to loose it by your own doing.

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 5:52 PM

If mccain is really the expert on the economy like he is saying why then has he voted with bush failed policies for the last 8 yrs?Thats all the proof i need to know he wont get my vote.No mccain no how no wayyyy!!!Obama/Biden08

Posted by: smorrow | October 27, 2008 5:51 PM

Posted by: rcc_2000 | October 27, 2008 5:47 PM

Most small business people know that the issue isn't how much they are taxed. Its whether their customers have the resources to buy their products and services
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And they want something new, not the same old sh*t, that's the other problem TPTB can't seem to understand, not being the curious, creative or innovative types, themselves...

Surprisingly, most get bored with the corporate ministry of culture we now see, go figure, they won't buy...

Like Chinese goods, sometimes I just decide to do without, rather than spend my money on sh*t.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 5:45 PM

McCain has no more experience at being the POTUS than I have.

Posted by: michael4 | October 27, 2008 5:43 PM

For highly educated American people who consider themselves superior, the lack of ability to grasp basic content, the basic argument, is telling.

They really don't get it, in the same manner they fail to understand what really propels the American economy, what creates demand.

And it isn't the same thing that gave us a faux Madonna.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 5:41 PM

reply to:
It really doesn't matter how forcefully McCain restates his same old plan. It's the same failed economic plan as the Bush plan, except that McCain advocates spending less which is a particularly bad idea for a recession. Most small business people know that the issue isn't how much they are taxed. Its whether their customers have the resources to buy their products and services. That's where the problem is today. McCain has no solution to that problem. Spreading the wealth around is pretty much what Henry Ford advocated: paying workers a decent wage so they can afford your products.

Posted by: sophie2 | October 27, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

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Actually the Bush tax cuts brought us out of the devasting blows of the burst dot com and telecom bubbles (and the recession they brought) created during Clinton years and great credit taken by Clinton on high paying jobs that really had no economic value to the country except in rare cases. And the major blow of the Al Queda attack on 9/11. No other President since the Great Depression has had to come out from under so great anumber of hits to the economy. A good example of the benefit to the government was that with the tax cut for just the top 1% resulted in an increase of tax revenues by 2 times what the top 1% paid during the Clinton years. His recovery would have lasted longer if the democrats (and some RINO Republicans) had put in place controls on Fannie and Freddie when he wanted. The current problems were brought on by the bundling of subprime and other high risk loans (forced onto the mortgage industry to provide by the government) with "A" credit loans. This bundling created an environment where the Financial institutions had to set the value of all loans in the bundle to $0 because no one would buy them, which created the need capital and for bailouts and the freezing of the credit markets. To show how manipulative the press is on the thinking of the average American, not 8 months ago when everyone was railing about the economy, 75% said it was in bad shape, yet 95% of the same people polled said they were doing quite well. If something is said often enough even if it isn't factual it becomes de facto factual which is what you get with Obama and the press.

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 5:41 PM

the little tard could not slam an egg on the floor and break it. slams lol lol. what kind of show is the little tard putting on.

Posted by: Biasply | October 27, 2008 5:39 PM

John McCain's campaign is in disarray, with no evidence of leadership nor executive ability. McCain failed to provided leadership during the recent economic crisis, giving contradictory messages, ineffective plans, and erratic responses. McCain is a militarist, who will drag the USA into war after war. Last, Obama has said clearly, effectively, and consistently that he will lower taxes for 95% of Americans. McCain's message that Obama will raise taxes is a lie.

Posted by: AKwatchman | October 27, 2008 5:38 PM

JoeT1

Do you think there is another america? One that contains only democrats with official labels over their heads that lets you know where they stand on every issue. In response to your post the first thing I would give McCain credit for is standing up to his party before cowtowing to bush not claiming he does afterward. How about before creating fear of democrats policy republicans manning up and taking some responsibility for their own failed policies. I could respect that as a voter. Thats your first step of getting voters back, admitting you were wrong in the first place, wrong about the war, wrong about the economy, wrong about energy and healthcare. Your party is like a drug addict or alcoholic in denial, you cant get clean or win over people's confidence until you admit you have a problem and have made mistakes. As long as you keep claiming you are right and using fear of the other guy as your platform you are not going to get any more voters than the ones who were loyal to you regardless, and you may lose some of them. Maybe scare will work next election. And if you think anyone cares what you label them, unless you are paying their bills they could care less. Do you think that person who has just lost half of their retirement cares if you call them a bunch of names for not voting for McCain? Really?

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 5:35 PM

You cannot seperate the social from the economic and the political -- every single one of our 'privatized" industries is stealing from the public, in some way ( if they don't get you through taxes, they get you through the law, say the bankruptcy debacle, healthcare, et al,) the public pays an unfair share, no one advocating for them in the press, really.

Who represents the people?

Obama?

(ROTFLMAO)

I'm sure most of us are willing to admit this, if not, I would immediately ask why.

Clearly what we have now is a government run by the stupidest business people America has ever seen.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 5:34 PM

JaxMax

You left out, death to the Jews, Praise Allah and death to the Infidels. Didn't Obama say that too? This is the new republican campaign technique, Make up shiit, number it categorically, call it the truth, expect people to believe it, and attack anyone who disputes it. The only thing Republicans have not resorted to is all out violence against anyone not voting for them. I cant wait for that one.

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 5:26 PM

dashriprock: suppose McCain had said, if I am elected, I will do exactly what I said should have been done when Bush proposed his irresponsible tax cuts for the comfortably rich, namely, give them to the middle class instead. So, I will let the Bush cuts expire and enact the tax cut for the middle class that we should have enacted then. This will stimulate the economy, leave more tax dollars in the hands of the folks and less for government. What would all of you socialist, marxist, spread the wealth, redistributionist, types have said then?

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 27, 2008 5:24 PM

Can we PLEASE stop calling eachother names? It adds nothing to the conversation and only proves who the real thoughtless, idealess persons are.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 27, 2008 5:24 PM

It would be a shame to interrupt the Republicans' redistribution of wealth to the wealthy, and to the Chinese and Saudis over the past 8 years.

It has done such wonders for our economy.

Posted by: ArmyBrat68 | October 27, 2008 5:23 PM

I confess I don't get the McCain argument on the economy. For one thing, his advisors:
1) a forcibly removed former CEO of Hewlett Packard
2) the CEO of E-Bay, which is in financial trouble and looking at layoffs
3) a neocon Stanford prof with an ideological bent
and 4) Mitt Romney. Mitt's the sort of Wall Street type that buys other companies and begins by cutting employees and outsourcing contracts overseas, where labor is cheaper.

Aren't these folks part of the freaking problem?

Then again, he also picked Sarah Palin as his running mate. Thereby scaring the heck out of independent voters and mobilizing the Democratic base.

If this guy were to win, we'd be in real trouble.

Posted by: Samson151 |
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Excellent points.


These so called “McCain advisors” represent everything that is WRONG with this economy—Over paid and incompetent CEOs with golden brochettes, Corporate raiders, neo-con supply-siders, etc—the same economic philosophy that got us into this mess. McCain is truly Bush III.


Posted by: JJames081 | October 27, 2008 5:16 PM

It is still amazing to me that McCain is taking a rather innocent comment like "spread the wealth around" to such sinister ends. He really must be desperate to win this election.

McCain is still fighting hard for those who have raped the economy to get even more.

This is really mind-boggling.

Posted by: EarlC | October 27, 2008 5:14 PM

FYI. I consider myself fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I guess that makes me a Progressive.

There is no logical reason not to recognize GLTB unions. They cannot sign a contract to purchase a house together helping the US economy. They can't visit in the hospital. Why not? Because they're not one of us? They're "different"?

There is no reason to restrict a woman's choice until such time as the stigma associated with adoption is lifted. Joyous will be the day when we can say that US abandoned/orphaned children are adopted before Chinese, Cambodian, Guatamalan, etc.

Productive Americans are healthy with an economically vibrant pharma and medical services system. This does not mean governmentally PROVIDED healthcare. Ford Motors in New Brunswick, Canada(I think it's this plant I'm thinking of) has an employee health plan that splits the cost of care between the company, employees, province and fed. We all know that Canada has "socialized medicine".

Maybe this won't work here in the US, but can we TALK about something other than "Privatize" or "Socialize"?

I don't like tariffs; they caused the downfall of the steel industry and enabled the slow decay of detroit. Americans adapt to changes - or used to.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 27, 2008 5:14 PM

What good does a tax cut do if you have no income? What good does a healthcare tax credit do if you can't buy healthcare (or, again, if you have no income)? What good does a lowered capital gains tax do when no one has made any gains in capital?

The Joe the Plumber argument is ridiculous, also in what it is actually intended to show (as opposed to being a da-da-like subliminal argument), which is that small business would be hurt significantly by Obama's policies. One of the most vibrant countries in the world when it comes to entrepreneurship and innovation is Sweden. That country has the second highest tax rate in the world, only surpassed by Denmark.

McCain has nothing, nothing, nothing to offer when it comes to the economy.

www.usparliament.blogspot.com

Posted by: JOlsson1 | October 27, 2008 5:12 PM

Cretins for McCain!
Nincompoops for Palin!

Posted by: edwcorey | October 27, 2008 5:09 PM

Well in the end is a matter of ideology. Are you a conservative? or a liberal, progressive? Do you want to maintain the status quo? or do you want change?
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In the end it's the welfare of the United States, the common good, differing ideologies making it stronger.

Sarah Palin has every right to believe in the abolition of abortion, it is her right as a human, and I respect it.

She doesn't have the right to use the issue in a divisive way as deliberate political strategy, and certainly she doesn't have the right to murder those who believe otherwise -- it is her repsonsibilty to find the best solution, as it is mine, and anyone elses.

Franklin said, quoting from Walter Issacson's book "when truth and error have fair play, the former is always an over match for the latter," and this is correct. (And the corporate "press" has shown what will happen when truth isn't allowed, it's always finds another way).

This is true for the manner upon which our government should make deicsions, too, fair play of differing sides hopefully allows us the best decision, in the end.

I respect her opinion even though our basic political ideologies differ.

Perfected democracy is a constant search of for knowledge, for the truth, no matter political ideology, everything we see here, these R and D dime store political tactics are simply the work of stupid men, unable to understand higher intellectual truths about systems of government, political theory.

Don't expect intelligent decisions.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 5:09 PM

to gdavis4 I doubt Republicans will be as nasty to democrats as they and the press have been for the last 8 years. Democrats have put up every road block that they could over the last 8 years, which were considerable. And realizing they could never again win an election if the war in Iraq was successful they and the press created a completely lopsided view of Iraq and probably delayed the end of it by several years. Republicans will only gripe if our free speech rights are further eroded by the fairness doctrine, and carping about new government institutions that Obama/Pelosi/Reid will bring about that will take years to reverse if ever they can be reversed. Traditional values will be but a dream to many and something preciously lost by older Americans.

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 5:08 PM

Sen. Ted Stevens Found Guilty in Corruption Trial

Yet another GOP crook senator bites the dust.

Posted by: JJames081 | October 27, 2008 5:06 PM

I confess I don't get the McCain argument on the economy. For one thing, his advisors:
1) a forcibly removed former CEO of Hewlett Packard
2) the CEO of E-Bay, which is in financial trouble and looking at layoffs
3) a neocon Stanford prof with an ideological bent
and 4) Mitt Romney. Mitt's the sort of Wall Street type that buys other companies and begins by cutting employees and outsourcing contracts overseas, where labor is cheaper.

Aren't these folks part of the freaking problem?

Then again, he also picked Sarah Palin as his running mate. Thereby scaring the heck out of independent voters and mobilizing the Democratic base.

If this guy were to win, we'd be in real trouble.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 27, 2008 5:05 PM

a three year old child could do better that vain.

Posted by: Biasply | October 27, 2008 5:04 PM

I like the latest McCain ad with the chair in the Oval office with the scary music in the background saying that Obama has zero executive experience and his first crisis will be in this chair. Then you think about it and say hey, isn't that the same thing you can say about McCain? Then I guess crashing a plain and being captured is a personal crisis that Obama can't claim, but at the same time McCain has not run for president of the united states as a black man either. McCain has decided to play on fear, Obama on hope, lets see, fear has been our current leaders way of keeping our support too. What have we accomplished based on fear? Kind of like when the mafia offers you protection. They mean protection from them.

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 5:02 PM

It really doesn't matter how forcefully McCain restates his same old plan. It's the same failed economic plan as the Bush plan, except that McCain advocates spending less which is a particularly bad idea for a recession. Most small business people know that the issue isn't how much they are taxed. Its whether their customers have the resources to buy their products and services. That's where the problem is today. McCain has no solution to that problem. Spreading the wealth around is pretty much what Henry Ford advocated: paying workers a decent wage so they can afford your products.

Posted by: sophie2 | October 27, 2008 5:01 PM

Americans don't allow the republican gestapo to intimidate you, fight for your right to vote. Go early meet them where they stand. The lot of them should be arrested and jailed for life.

Posted by: FORREAL | October 27, 2008 4:59 PM

(Portions of the following plagiarized from Aspergirl)


LIST OF LOW-CLASS CLUELESS GAFFES OF
"THE INAPPROPRIATE OBAMAS"

1. On McCain adding Sarah Palin to his ticket: “Lipstick on a pig” & "it smells like an old fish"

2.To Hillary saying I'm not as charming as he is: "You're likable enough" (smirk)

3."Hold on sweetie" Obama speaking to female journalist. It was her fault, she was not wearing a burkka--

4.Dismissing Hillary w/3 am cell phone text message announcing Biden. Obama had to SPANK Hillary for the 3:00 am tv ad..

5.For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country--Michelle Obama

6.America, my grandmother is a "Typical White Person"--Obama the wise

7.Small town America: bitter and cling to religion and guns and antipathy toward people not like themselves-Obama the Tolerant

8. Surge was not a success (we lost the war) Obama the Commmander in Chief

9.Having an opinion about when a baby acquires rights: above my pay grade says "Constitutional Law Lecturer" Obama

10.On Iran: a tiny country that cannot hurt us

11.I have visited 57 states (in America)

Imagine if Gov. Palin had said this to Couric...

12.Behold the Obama Presidential Seal on my podium

13.I'll stop poverty, still rising seas, heal planet, redeem America from its ignorance

14.The Republicans are going to tell you not to vote for me because I don't look like the presidents on the dollar bills

15.The Republicans are going to tell you that I'm a Muslim (No, actualy they are going to PROVE you were indoctrinated Muslim as a child and we can see the results today.)

16.Americans: cynical, lazy, slobs, downright mean

17. Germans, I apologize for America

18. Worship me at my Temple at the Dem convention...

Posted by: JaxMax | October 27, 2008 4:59 PM

"McCAIN and his team including Mitt Romney ,
who is expecting a new grandchild ,said
that Obama will raise taxes and destroy
the economy . Obama's 2001 Marxist words ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck"

Posted by: RaZoR777

And the significance of Romney's new grandchild? Let's see.... Bush/McCain policies have bankrupted the nation, tortured innocent Arabs, stretched the military to the cracking point, put the wounded into rat- and roach-infested hospitals, opened secret prisons, suspended habeas corpus, campaigned on hate, vilification, divisiveness; compromised the Justice department, gutted environmental safeguards, broken treaties, alienated our allies, emboldened and strengthened hostile nations.... And you, imbecile-supreme, are throwing stones?

Posted by: edwcorey | October 27, 2008 4:58 PM

First, McCain, dishonorable as he is, is lying again.

Second, why wasn't the GOP concerned about one-party control when it had the White House and congress?

Seems, as is typical, very hypocritical on the part of McCain and the republicans.

Posted by: jimcummings | October 27, 2008 4:58 PM

One thing that people must look for to read is the following: CRA implemented by the democrats.. Community Reinvestment Act.

Read this article in its full and research for your self that this is true, because if this is true and i have a feeling that it is(seeing the carreer and record of the Author), than the onces to blame for this mess are the democrats. I don't know why the Republicans did not use this argument agains the democrats(maybe because both sides are to blame)

http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/10/03/do_facts_matter

Posted by: curacaoman | October 27, 2008 4:56 PM

Well in the end is a matter of ideology. Are you a conservative? or a liberal, progressive? Do you want to maintain the status quo? or do you want change? Well I am a liberal, progressive registered democrat and I will never vote republican. McCain finally revealed his economic team and it does not impress me. Since the Reagan years, when they started applying the monetarists policies (Milton Friedman and the infamous, to me, School of Chicago), the country started a downhill slide. We need to return to Keynesian policies. I would suggest McCain and the GOP read the book by Hyman P. Minsky: John Maynard Keynes or The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism by Naomi Klein. Deregulation and leaving the market to control itself is an illusion, actually we need the government to govern, to control the market so crisis like the one we are having now will not occur ever. Voodoo Economics, trickle down economics is a fallacy, we have learned it does not work for the population at large, but only for a few, the multi-billionaires, whose only worry is to make higher and higher profits.
That famous phrase "spread the wealth" is in reality a better redistribution of the wealth to everybody. People that don't pay income taxes, still get 7.65% of their salaries deducted and paid to the government, so if they receive a return or an EIC (Earned Income Credit), I'm all for it. Tax the 5% of the population who make outrageous amounts of money with a higher amount than the ones who make less than the $250,000 that Obama will apply, I'm all for it. McCain is living in Utopia. Imagine if Bush would've won in having Social Security privatized, it all would've been gone in a puff of smoke with this crisis. McCain said it: "I have voted with Bush 90% of the time, more than any of my colleagues in Congress", as if it were an accomplishment. That famous surge in Irak, wasn't a real surge, they stopped some of our forces to return home and then sent more troops and the insurgency waned not because of more troops, but because a lot of the male fighters have fled the country as refugees to other countries, and the Shiites and Sunnis enacted a truce. Anyway we did not have any valid reason to go wage war on Saddam Hussein when he have him contained and he was not a threat to our national security. I do believe that we went to Irak to control the oil. We destroyed the infrastructure of Irak and then gave the contract to rebuild it to Halliburton, which by coincidence is the former employer of Cheney; appearances go a long way. I would like to know where is Cheney going to work this coming January.
Is change what we want, so, so long George W. Bush and John McCain; welcome Barack H. Obama.

Posted by: amva55 | October 27, 2008 4:53 PM

Wow, what will republicans do if they don't win? Spend the next four years hating over half of the country? Labeling the rest us as racist, communist, socialist, marxist, radical muslim supporters and un-american? We will become the divide states of America. Unless of course we all vote for McCain.

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 4:49 PM

mcvain slams lol lol he could'nt slam a door on greased hinges.

Posted by: Biasply | October 27, 2008 4:47 PM

ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) has sent out a press release about a lawsuit against the New Mexico GOP after reports that minority voters in the state are being intimidated by party officials. The press release:

Lawsuits were filed today in U.S. Federal District Court, charging New Mexico Republicans with criminal violations of the U.S. Voting Rights Act.


The lawsuits stem from a series of attacks on new, minority voters in Albuquerque--many of whom were assisted in registering to vote by ACORN--that began with a press conference on October 16, led by State Representative Justine Fox-Young, in which Fox-Young claimed to have solid proof that individuals had illegally voted in the June, 2008 Democratic primary election. At the press conference, the Republican Party broke state law by distributing the voters' personal information in its press packets.


The second attack came after ACORN visited 9 of the 10 smeared voters and proved them to be legitimate. On October 22, a private investigator visited at least 3 of the voters, leaving them shaken, one in tears.

The Associated Press reported the daughter of one voter indicated that the intimidating tactics had worked on her mother. ""She said that if she knew she was going to have to go through all this, she wouldn't have voted," said Guadalupe Bojorquez.

According to the VRA, it is a criminal offense to willfully intimidate or interfere with a person attempting to vote or to conspire to intimidate someone trying to vote. In ACORN's conversations with all of the voters visited by the investigator, all expressed fear at his aggressive, angry, and intrusive behavior.

"These are all minority voters. Many of them are young, and one is a new citizen," said ACORN leader Dana Gallegos. "ACORN has worked hard to get these types of new voters involved in the democratic process. We will not tolerate attempts by the Republican Party to suppress the Hispanic vote in New Mexico."

The investigator told one voter that his name was Al Romero and that he works for Pat Rogers, a Republican Party attorney who was also involved in the October 16 smears.

ACORN helped 80,000 New Mexicans register to vote this year.

Are you proud of how Karl Rove is handling your campaign John W. McCain?

Posted by: Bubba2008 | October 27, 2008 4:46 PM

It is not a matter of having more money it is the ideological, pychological, and political idea of an opiate for the masses
__________

The masses?

That would be all of us, Bush, say, included.

And I disagree, the one thing those corporate kooks can't grasp is the value of an idea to the success of the American economy, or even labor.

IDEAS propel the American economy, and god knows those ideas dont' come from the Washington elite, those hot housed tomatoes are failing miserably.

(But, you know, a citizen John Fogerty, or a citizen John Lennon?

Now that's a poet).

So, the intellectually dull, the elite, miss the entire concept, breathtaking, really, and then ignorantly apply said junk theory, in it's full faux reasoning, to the American economy.

F'ing idiots.

They're not creative, they don't get it, they parrot, breathtakingly stupid people.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 4:46 PM

McCain does nothing but...Lie...Lie...Lie.
he distorts the truth and props himself up on a "I can do it I know how to do it " pedestal and just makes me want to throw up... He wants people to trust him when his whole platform is centered around helping businesses and not the middle class...he wants voters to buy into the concept that by helping businesses he is also helping them... If that was the case unemployment would not be as high and the salary gap between executives and lower level employees would not be so high.. Trickle down does not work and it is time that the most unread among us stop listening to this garbage and start looking out for their own best interest instead of the interest of the corporation...step out of Fantasyland and walk into Reality... the only way to vote is ..Obama '08

Posted by: sabrina2 | October 27, 2008 4:46 PM

Where is the straight talk? Or better yet the straight jacket for Grampy McInsane! Republican candidate John McCain has been repeatedly called upon to fire computer expert Michael Connell from his campaign for covering up alleged election manipulations of Karl Rove and others. Mr. Connell, the GOP’s top computer expert, was subpoenaed based on a September 19th court order to testify under oath in an Ohio federal lawsuit looking into serious allegations that Mr. Rove has directed a strategy to illegally manipulate elections through the use of computer technology. Rather than cooperate in the investigation, Mr. Connell hired attorneys close to the Bush/Cheney Administration and refused to appear for the deposition arguing client (GOP) confidentiality. Those attorneys have said that they will do everything possible to keep Mr. Connell from testifying before the November general election.

Mr. Connell’s refusal to comply with a federal subpoena looking into credible evidence that the upcoming presidential election will be manipulated is at odds with John McCain’s promise to run a clean campaign. Another GOP cyber security expert, Stephen Spoonamore, has stated that Mr. Connell has vast experience and knowledge of the GOP computer networks at issue in the federal lawsuit.Mr. Connell has admitted to Mr. Spoonamore that in his zeal to 'save the unborn' he may have helped others who have compromised elections.”

Cliff Arnebeck, the Ohio election attorney who issued the subpoena, said Friday that he is aggressively moving to enforce the subpoena. “Mr. Connell has information about how the votes are tabulated in key states in the upcoming election. In order to ensure that the election is fair and accurate, Mr. Connell needs to testify under oath and pursuant to a lawful subpoena about how these votes are tabulated, whether the tabulation will be compromised and whether anyone has directed him to compromise those tabulations.”

According to federal filings, Mr. Connell is working for John McCain to help him win the election. It's believed that until Mr. Connell testifies under oath about his apparent knowledge of election manipulations, he should not be working for Mr. McCain. If he does, the McCain campaign will appear to be in league with Mr. Connell to cover up criminal conduct and engaging in election tampering. This will call into question the results of the November election and again cast a shadow over our election process.

McCain... why do you pal around with convicted criminals, felons and evil doers?

Posted by: Bubba2008 | October 27, 2008 4:43 PM

It doesn't matter in 6 days the Republicans will be licking their wounds. Repulicans should be trying to help save their other seats instead of spreading hate speeches!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: zippergyrl | October 27, 2008 4:42 PM

thegreatpotatospamof2003

I don't care what party the President comes from. I used to consider myself a conservative. I voted Regan until I realized that his economics didn't work. But I voted for him again because I didn't like the alternatives.

I'm frankly dissappointed with both Reps and Dems. My party the Reps have gone so far to the right that it bears a frightening resemblance to National Socialism. To wit:

Among the key elements of the current Republican platforms seem to be anti-government, racism ("he's not one of us", "he's arab", "he's black"), collectivism (protectionism, defense against social decline or decadence, purity [with us or against us]), eugenics (homophobia, intolerance of non-christians, anglo-saxon, western european heritage, non-immigrant stance), antisemitism, opposition to economic and political liberalism, and anti-communism.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 27, 2008 4:42 PM

McCain knows all about bailing out rich bankers and screwing over middle class and poor people, he's been doing it for years
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzDEbVFcg8
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McCain - Founding Member of the Keating 5:

McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.


Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)


McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."


McCain was not convicted of any crimes, though the Senate concluded that he exercised "poor judgment." (Furthermore, he got off on some charges by a technicality -- that he was still in the House when he took those vacation trips, and so the Senate couldn't prosecute him. The House concluded that THEY couldn't prosecute him because he had moved to the Senate.)


Here's some mavericky straight-talk, my friends:
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http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 4:42 PM

With these fresh new ideas

McCain will definitely win the presidency in 1980!

Posted by: lichtme | October 27, 2008 4:40 PM

ASPERGIRL I MISS YOU!

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 4:38 PM

Let us see for the past 8 years the multimillionaire Bush/McCain crowd have feasted on our tax money in no bid contracts and bankrupted us and our governemnt and that is OK with them. Now they are claiming that Obama is a socialist. Yeh he is no more a socialist than his supporters the billionaires Buffett, Pritzker and Soros crowd who made their money the hard way by earning it fare and square and not by stealing it like the Republicans did during the last 8 years. I trust Obama with my money any time now that I have experienced the thievery of these shameless Republicans.

Posted by: ProudAmericaan | October 27, 2008 4:37 PM

Wait. Didn't McCain vote for the bailout package (and allegedly negotiated it in his Fake Virginia condo)? And so McCain supports the massive 750B baillout for Wall Street. But any suggestion of giving a red cent to working people, in the face of an onrushing economic collapse, and he's hysterical about "socialism"? Wow

Besides the actual empirical grotesque wrongness of his economic ideas about recession economic policy, he just doesnt' get his economic rhetoric repels working class moderates. He is talking like a man who never looked into an empty fridge or drove home on fumes because you are waiting for payday. He just don't get how to talk about economics to non-rich people/ WSJ writers.

Posted by: wharwood | October 27, 2008 4:37 PM

Have you noticed how the same group of fools keep posting the same nonsense over and over again (Obama is a Marxist, Obama is angry, Obama isn't American ... yada, yada, yada). YAWN. What complete bunk. I'm starting to think that the RNC is paying these yahoos a stipend based on the number of text characters they post online. The RNC would be better off giving them a primer on grammar and effective writing. The same crap over and over again, written in a barely literate manner.

Note to the yahoos: You are embarrassing yourselves and discrediting the American public education system. During your childhood, taxpayers contributed funds toward your education, but here you are today, showing that that expenditure was a complete waste of public funds. At the very least, iff you were capable of writing better prose, your crackpot blathering would be a lot more entertaining for the masses. I sincerely doubt it is having, or will have any tangible effect on the electorate, or to the outcome of the election on Nov. 4th, however. Good luck to you in the future: my advice is to take a week or two off from posting online; take a few typing courses, read Strunk and White, and if you really want to go nuts, educate yourself in your free time. Read a book every now and then. Read about different cultures. Read some history. The readers at WaPo will thank you.


Posted by: NW_Washington | October 27, 2008 4:37 PM

But don't call it.
Spreading the wealth, that's not what Obama really meant.

But don't call it.
Redistribution of money, that's Marxism, and that's not what Obama really is all about,,,is it.

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Try " the common good."

Go back and read the history of the founding fathers, they were able to reason intelligently.

What concerns me, though, other than an unfair tax system, are the Wall Street kooks who empty the treasury under the guise of free market, and bought and paid for politicans. (see IL)

Obama is from IL, IL government is broken, broke, really, last I read.

Why should we expect anything different in Washington, only exacerbated under an Obama administration?

Unless, of course, the cleaner politicians can override the fundraisers, I remember reading Clinton had a lot of problems with the DNC, back in the day.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 4:37 PM

Talk about 'Pork Barrel" spending....In early October, as the presidential campaign was hitting its emotional peak, the Republican National Committee mailed off a check for $6,000 to an art restoration company in Kensington, Maryland. The revelation that the RNC spent tens of thousands on clothing for Gov. Sarah Palin has roiled the race in recent days. A more comprehensive review of expenditures by the RNC and the John W. McCain campaign finds various other instances, such as the above, of questionable spending. In the past two months, for example, the GOP ticket has opened up its wallet for elephant-shaped shrubbery, baseball tickets, a yacht rental, and lunches for Karl Rove. The Grampy McCain Victory 2008 committee spent nearly $9,000 on "event site rental" from a yacht company in San Diego, while the John (Dubya) McCain 2008 committee bought $336 worth of "event tickets" for an Arizona Diamondbacks baseball game.

Hoping to lavish big time donors with gifts of appreciation during the GOP convention in Minnesota, McCain Victory 2008 purchased 250 wine glasses adorned with elephant designs, at a cost of nearly $7,000, from a shop in Georgia. It was considered a deal.

That same committee also purchased $3,589 worth of elephant shaped chocolates from a sweet shop in Dallas, Texas. "They bought about 1,000 pieces," said the storeowner. "About eleven ounces a piece in all three types of chocolate: milk, dark and light."

In addition to these items, the McCain campaign spent nearly $9,000 at a jewelry and political paraphernalia shop in Washington D.C., and $4,249.07 at the outdoor/clothing store, Lands End. The RNC, meanwhile, paid the Minnesota-based Tropical Plants Unlimited nearly $500 for an elephant-shaped topiary shrub.

Pork barrel projects right within his own 2008 campaign...and Grampy McInsane claims somehow if he gets elected, he will change the policies of financing spending and borrowing and spending of his buddy George W. Bush. How many more lies can we take from Mccain?

Posted by: Bubba2008 | October 27, 2008 4:35 PM

to JoeT1

The proposition of lowering taxes has been done by one major Democrat and it worked very well for him in raising tax revenues, John F Kennedy. It is not a matter of having more money it is the ideological, pychological, and political idea of an opiate for the masses. "Chicken in every pot", war on poverty, etc. designed to increase voter reliance in a sound bite world. Obama is even running on lowering taxes, but with the side bet of having a bogey man to get the less well off fired up and the incentive of a new welfare program for 45-50% of those working, he had to do this to be able to present himself as a Democrat. Don't get me wrong I will be the beneficiary of his largesse as my peak earning days are behind me. But on priniciple and facts (the 2x revenue generation) wealth redistribution is wrong, Nanny state is wrong, and an unchecked liberal government is just a step away from the European failed socialism experiment. Clinton had a conservative congress to keep him check after his failed attempt for socialized medicine. There will be no such governor for Obama and more importantly Pelosi. Your arguments would have a bit of logic if the quest for power wasn't so great.

We will get a eco lobby bought government at the expense of future energy needs, Pelosi will shut down off shore drilling temporarily opened up under election pressure as soon as the next session starts. We will getsocialized medicine as all employers will opt to pay the going rate to the government health plan and forgo monthly premium increases and benefits management overhead, we will suffer from the same ills Canada, England, and Germany have with their socialized medicine. Jobs will go down the drain, I expect the economy to be a 8.5% unemployment before it starts to subside despite Obama's policies. I expect his obsession with the free speech of the right to be against his principles like Chavez and he and Pelosi will institute the "fairness Doctrine" except for Main stream media.

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 4:33 PM

Pelosi, Reid and Obama... what a "Menage a Troika"!

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 27, 2008 4:32 PM

You have to love Obama, work your but off. And what ever you make Over $250.000 I'm taking, and giving it to the blood clots.

But Obama wants you to think its a good idea and Biden asserts its unpatriotic or anti American it you don't give up your earnings.

But don't call it.
Spreading the wealth, that's not what Obama really meant.

But don't call it.
Redistribution of money, that's Marxism, and that's not what Obama really is all about,,,is it.

Then what is it ?

Posted by: dashriprock | October 27, 2008 4:29 PM

thegreatpotatospamof2003

And don't forget the McCane as one of the Keating 5
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I agree.

And his membership in the AZ "World Free Society" or whatever was downright creepy.

I think Obama is corrupt, the politics of what they would label socialism have nothing to do with his motivations.

Anyway, how could it be any worse than Cheney's little foray into Constitutional law?

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 4:28 PM

10/7/08: Velvet Revolution Calls On John McCain To Fire Michael Connell For Covering Up For Karl Rove In Federal Election Manipulation Lawsuit

Velvet Revolution today issued a press release calling for Republican candidate John McCain to fire computer expert Michael Connell from his campaign for covering up alleged election manipulations of Karl Rove and others. Mr. Connell, the GOP’s top computer expert, was subpoenaed based on a September 19th court order to testify under oath in an Ohio federal lawsuit looking into serious allegations that Mr. Rove has directed a strategy to illegally manipulate elections through the use of computer technology. Rather than cooperate in the investigation, Mr. Connell hired attorneys close to the Bush/Cheney Administration and refused to appear for the deposition arguing client (GOP) confidentiality. Those attorneys have said that they will do everything possible to keep Mr. Connell from testifying before the November general election.

Mr. Connell’s refusal to comply with a federal subpoena looking into credible evidence that the upcoming presidential election will be manipulated is at odds with John McCain’s promise to run a clean campaign. Another GOP cyber security expert, Stephen Spoonamore, has stated that Mr. Connell has vast experience and knowledge of the GOP computer networks at issue in the federal lawsuit.Mr. Connell has admitted to Mr. Spoonamore that in his zeal to 'save the unborn' he may have helped others who have compromised elections.”

Cliff Arnebeck, the Ohio election attorney who issued the subpoena, said Friday that he is aggressively moving to enforce the subpoena. “Mr. Connell has information about how the votes are tabulated in key states in the upcoming election. In order to ensure that the election is fair and accurate, Mr. Connell needs to testify under oath and pursuant to a lawful subpoena about how these votes are tabulated, whether the tabulation will be compromised and whether anyone has directed him to compromise those tabulations.”

According to federal filings, Mr. Connell is working for John McCain to help him win the election. VR believes that until Mr. Connell testifies under oath about his apparent knowledge of election manipulations, he should not be working for Mr. McCain. If he does, the McCain campaign will appear to be in league with Mr. Connell to cover up criminal conduct and engaging in election tampering. This will call into question the results of the November election and again cast a shadow over our election process.

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/

Posted by: j2hess | October 27, 2008 4:28 PM

****** LATEST NEWS *******

ONE MORE REPUGNANT SCUMBAG E-X-P-O-S-E-D !!!!!!!!!!

Sen. Stevens Found Guilty Of Lying About Gifts

NPR.org, October 27, 2008 ·

Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens has been convicted of lying about free home renovations and other gifts he received from a wealthy oil contractor.

The Senate's longest-serving Republican, Stevens was found guilty on all seven counts of making false statements on Senate financial documents.

The verdict throws the upcoming election into disarray. Stevens is fighting off a challenge from Democrat Mark Begich and must now either drop out or continue campaigning as a felon.

Posted by: mewindows | October 27, 2008 4:27 PM

****** LATEST NEWS *******

ONE MORE REPUGNANT SCUMBAG E-X-P-O-S-E-D !!!!!!!!!!

Sen. Stevens Found Guilty Of Lying About Gifts

NPR.org, October 27, 2008 ·

Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens has been convicted of lying about free home renovations and other gifts he received from a wealthy oil contractor.

The Senate's longest-serving Republican, Stevens was found guilty on all seven counts of making false statements on Senate financial documents.

The verdict throws the upcoming election into disarray. Stevens is fighting off a challenge from Democrat Mark Begich and must now either drop out or continue campaigning as a felon.

Posted by: mewindows | October 27, 2008 4:27 PM

We should be seeing Obama ads picturing McCain with his arm around Stevens in about, oh, 20 minutes or so.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | October 27, 2008 4:27 PM

McCain should be talking about butter. He's toast. :-)

Posted by: PA_DC | October 27, 2008 4:27 PM

Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens has been convicted of lying about free home renovations and other gifts he received from a wealthy oil contractor. The Senate's longest-serving Republican, Stevens was found guilty on all seven counts of making false statements on Senate financial documents.

The verdict throws the upcoming Senatorial election into disarray. Stevens is fighting off a challenge from Democrat Mark Begich and must now either drop out or continue campaigning as a convicted felon.

Hey McCain and Palin ... do you always Pal Around with Convicted Felons like Stevens and Liddy?

Posted by: Bubba2008 | October 27, 2008 4:25 PM

thegreatpotatospamof2003

And don't forget the McCane as one of the Keating 5.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 27, 2008 4:24 PM

Looks like the McCain/Bush economic policies are working their charm again today. No wonder Al Qaeda loves these guys.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | October 27, 2008 4:24 PM

Ted Stevens is found guilty by a jury of his peers. Blame the MSM, blame socialism, blame everyone except for the most recent greedy Republican to bite the dirt.

Both sides' politicians are largely venal and dishonest, but the greed of the Republicans is a class act.

So what would Jesus do? Check his most purely political message, the Sermon on the Mount. Seems like a socialist message to me.

Posted by: shrink2 | October 27, 2008 4:24 PM

Service industry - I'll do just fine. Thanks for your concern.

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I dont know , the points you made, though I disagree with your reasoning as to the HIT the Ameircan people will take, somewhat salient, under ANY preisdent.

Concern, though, as opposed to truth, won't do the job, concern is what the unskilled offer becuase they saw a Republican label truth, once, on a blog,as such, so they thought they'd parrot, not intellectually astute enought to understand the greater implications, or the failure of labeling the truth a "concern."

A republican who lost his a$$ and his mind, btw.

But I digress.

ROTFLMAO

Ah, what to have for lunch, today?

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 4:24 PM

McCain has confesed to be computer illiterate, at his 72 years of age.
How can he understand complex economic and financial matters? I doubt it.

I can't take off of my mind either, that McCain has vowed to stay 100 years in Iraq if necessary.

And about international politics: AlQaeda supports McCain now:
www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/opinion/26kristof.html

McCain disconcerts me. Is not possible to vote McCain/Palin.
I will vote for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: SouthStar | October 27, 2008 4:23 PM

People are still pulling money out of stocks and mutual funds, and gun sales are up. Seems like people are bracing for higher capital gains tax environment and gun control... either that or really bad times.

Posted by: AsperGirl | October 27, 2008 4:22 PM

McCain pledged to do three things if he is elected president: protect investments, rescue the housing market and lower taxes to spur new job creation. But specifics as to how and who would be in charge are woefully absent... maybe he just forgot...AGAIN! especially considering earlier in the month John W. McCain echoed George W. Bush in proclaiming the "fundamentals of the economy are strong".

Posted by: Bubba2008 | October 27, 2008 4:20 PM

Looks like Comrade Biden was finally asked some tough questions today by that Florida reporter. Obama's response was -predictably- Nixonian. He threatened the TV station. An Obama administration is going to look more like Venezuela than I thought. My God.

Posted by: birvin9999 | October 27, 2008 4:20 PM

Reviewing all the statements made by Sen. John McCain so far, it is clear that he does not have any central strategy and plan on the economy, global leadership, environmental concerns, social justice, and how he intends to run the country. There is no core philosophy discernible.

There is no Christianity in his words. Everything about him is makeshift, impulse-driven, nothing original all picked here and there, and altogether lack the unity and cohesion. This is obvious as he swings from one adviser to another, to contradict himself often.

His bond with President Bush is confusing, to project love-hate. He claims disagreement, but consistently voted along Bush line. He objects to Bush economy, but is surrounded by Bush people. He supports Bush strategy on Iraq and calls Sen. Obama unpatriotic for suggesting troop withdrawal. Yet, the Bush administration is now negotiating withdrawal timetable. All of a sudden, Sen. McCain is quiet, not knowing where to stand anymore.

He sets his foundation on shifting sand; everything can be and is being compromised – literally everything. He played out the selection of his vice presidential candidate like a chess game.

His only interest is the power of the presidency.

Posted by: wwt101 | October 27, 2008 4:17 PM

I found this comment interesting:

The Obama Economic Plan - who are the first to go then who is next:
>Defense jobs - policy "out of Iraq"
>Medical Insurance company jobs 'govt. healthcare'
>Financial Services (even more)
>Pharmaceutical jobs - congressional reg
>Fossil Fuel Energy jobs-energy policy
>Steel industry jobs- Defense and energy policy
>Transportation jobs - energy policy and overall economy
2nd tier
>Coal Industry
>Sevice industries that rely on these industries

Let's look at these

Defense jobs gone because we're out of Iraq. Don't think so. There's Afganistan yet to complete. Don't forget THAT'S what got us into the Middle East morass in the first place. It's also where Bin Laden operates - not Iraq. Also, the military is depleted and needs to be replenished. This will be a jobs boon, not drain.

Government Healthcare - I don't think that Obama has said he wants to nationalize healthcare at all. He wants to provide incentives so more people can afford health care. Better health contributes to increased productivity directly (if you're sick, you're not working).

Congressional regulation of pharma - The FDA can only approve drugs. USDA approves vitamins but not for quality or efficacy. Under pressure from Pharma, FDA has authorized drugs that have in the long term been proven dangerous to the population. I think it's past time to consolidate the regulations, and allow FDA to revoke drugs.

Financial services - After the debacle we've seen in the past few months are you saying we DON'T need some kind of oversight?? The foxes have eaten all the hens, and they want us to give them more hens! There's a reasonable balance between hands off and strict regulations.

Fossil fuel energy jobs - The USA can no longer afford to fund countries that want to see our downfall. We can no longer afford to give our money to Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, etc so they can buy bombs to blow us up. Paradigm shifts are not easy. The change from oil to a combination of solar, wind, geothermal and other renewables, and natural gas and coal will take time. We've been talking about this since the 1970's. It's past time to do something about it!

There will be plenty of transportation jobs in the US. There will be few where the vehicles have low MPG's though, so Ford, GM and Chrysler better start thinking about this real hard. The Hondas and Toyotas made in the US get decent mileage. Why not Detroits?

Steel Industry jobs - They've mostly already gone back in the late 70's and 80's. Specialty steels are still here and are doing pretty good. They will continue to be inventive and nimble as the requirements change for new types of steel and other alloys and metals.

Coal industry - I can't count high enough the number of times that Obama said "clean coal."

Service industry - I'll do just fine. Thanks for your concern.

Posted by: Greg S. | October 27, 2008 4:16 PM

How does McCain propose to govern if he wins? He'll be toast from the get-go, and deservedly so. Does he think a Hillary Clinton lead Senate will let him bring his nutty agenda to the floor? Not!

Meanwhile, there are no assets left to protect, no investments left to conserve.
They are gone with the wind, courtesy of McCain and his half-brained minions.

Posted by: Arikarra | October 27, 2008 4:15 PM

I am looking at the record. And my 401(k) statement which is why I'm voting for Obama
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OK, I understand your reasoning, but you should look into his relationship with Tony Rezko, and Rezko's crimes, before you consider Obama the superior candidate.

He's not, just go in with eyes open, and watch your wallet.

It's not higher taxes you have to fear, it's whom he gives control of the money to -- in IL, the convicted felon Tony Rezko was granted access to the state pension funds by the IL governor and former CLOSE Obama cohort, Gov Blago.

So, who gets control of Social Security, or even federal pension funds?

Who has control now, for that matter?

And McCain is NOT an alternative (for me, anyway, just as complicit), but keep your eyes open.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 4:15 PM

So McCain is into threesomes with Democratic women?

Threesome is an awfully loaded term, don't you think? Kind of an odd word choice? For a man who calls his wife a "c_nt?"

Posted by: sparkplug1 | October 27, 2008 4:15 PM

Republicans used STEALH MONEY to collapse economy

Associated Press report...

WASHINGTON – Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.

In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI's chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain's campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September.

Freddie Mac's payments to DCI began shortly after the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee sent Hagel's bill to the then GOP-run Senate on July 28, 2005. All GOP members of the committee supported it; all Democrats opposed it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_bi_ge/the_influence_game_housing

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 27, 2008 4:15 PM

I want to keep my money and invest it in my future.

Posted by: jonathanelliotfrei | October 27, 2008 4:13 PM

cymacat

Don't worry, for every democrat committing voter fraud in your mind find solace in knowing that there are republicans out their committing voter suppression to even it out. Like purging voter registration applicants for having their middle initial on one form and not having it on another. Harassing anyone who does not look like one of them at the voting precincts, threatening people of latino decent with investigations of their homes. Dont worry there is enough voter suppression going on to combat any democrat voter fraud. But let me ask you, why is it when republicans win the people have spoken but when they lose its voter fraud? Its never an issue of voter fraud when republicans win elections.

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 4:13 PM

McCain thinks if he is elected the 700B will still be there for him to play with? McCain does not have a clue! Any of his plans will be putting more debt on our grandchildren (our children have too much already!). Remember he gets his “Professional Advice” from the likes of Phil (it’s a mental recession) Gramm the #1 facilitator of the current mess. McCains only thought on how he is going to pay for his projects is “Stop the Pork” but in reality how far does 18B go to fund many 100s of Billion in spending? He wants to tax your health care, cut Medicare and Medicaid, give the wealth to the rich and large corporations. This approach is one of the reasons we are in this muck in the first place. So if you find the current situation is agreeable to you then you MUST vote for McCain for more of the same!

Posted by: kimb54 | October 27, 2008 4:13 PM

I am going to say something nice about a Republican- Meg Whitman. She raises very sweet dogs. One of the two decent current House residents- Miss Beasley- came from Meg Whitman. I don't know if Barney(the other decent one) came from her, too. Sadly, Meg's choice in humans is not too good.

Posted by: silverspring25 | October 27, 2008 4:12 PM

Turn out the lights...the parties over...

With the Ted Stevens guilty verdict kicking ole' magoo off the front page, this week's news cycle is no longer controlled by any 'magoo comeback' stories.

Schmidt and Davis have failed utterly to control a single news cycle since the Palin announcement (and that worked against them).

So...turn out the lights....the parties over...

Posted by: Heerman532 | October 27, 2008 4:12 PM

Is McCain's economic team really "former congressman Jack Kemp, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, Stanford professor John Taylor, former eBay CEO Meg Whitman and former Maryland lieutenant governor Michael Steele"?

Kemp the has-been, discredited supply-side cheerleader, Romney, whose health care plan nearly bankrupted Massachusetts, and Steele, who lost the most recent election for governor of Maryland. Pawlenty's state is going for Obama, Prof. Taylor still argues that tax cuts are the cure-all for the economy, and Meg Whitman is a billionaire whose idea of a political leader is George "Macca" Allen. That's some powerhouse team, there. I wonder why he doesn't bring back Carly Fiorina? Maybe because someone finally told him that she ran H-P into the ditch and then got ditched by the Board.

Posted by: Bob22003 | October 27, 2008 4:09 PM

I am looking at the record. And my 401(k) statement which is why I'm voting for Obama.

Posted by: SarahBB | October 27, 2008 4:08 PM

Republicans used STEALH MONEY to collapse economy

Associated Press report...

WASHINGTON – Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.

In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI's chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain's campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September.

Freddie Mac's payments to DCI began shortly after the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee sent Hagel's bill to the then GOP-run Senate on July 28, 2005. All GOP members of the committee supported it; all Democrats opposed it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_bi_ge/the_influence_game_housing

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 27, 2008 4:08 PM

All McCain had to do to be competitive in this campaign was too select a moderate white guy as VP candidate and wage a campaign that wasn't in the gutter.
The fact he didn't do these simple things has to raise questions about his judgment.

Posted by: steveandjanereed1 | October 27, 2008 4:08 PM

cymacat,

Don't believe the hype. There is a BIG difference in voter registration fraud and voter fraud. The republicans have been guilty of voter fraud, in other words they affected or manipulated votes. Registration fraud only means that registrations totals are inaccurate. Get the facts. Senator Obama explained his relationship with ACORN, 13 years ago. They provided funds to a group that ACORN subcontract this year as part of a "get-out-the-vote" drive. Again, get the facts, get the truth. It was John McCain and Sarah Palin called out by the media and independent organizations like FactCheck.org 7 weeks ago for lying on the campaign trail and in their T.V. ads, as they continue to do, as John McCain just did in this speech. That is when the McCain-Palin ticket started falling in the polls, not because of the bailout.

Posted by: ajackson3 | October 27, 2008 4:08 PM

I am looking at the record. And my 401(k) statement which is why I'm voting for Obama.

Posted by: SarahBB | October 27, 2008 4:07 PM

It will be interesting and fun to watch the GOP shrink to a few nativist haters, a couple of religious nuts, and the Kathryn Jean-Lopez's of the world in the next few years.


As long as the Rethuglican party continues to offer huge outsized tax breaks for the filthy rich and nothing for everyone else, the extremist nuts will be the only one's left carrying the GOPer banner after 2008.


I think it is going to be a while before we hear about the big tent Republican party.


Ladies and Germs...I give you your 2009 Republican party:


All hail the GOPer "pup tent party"!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5mdIPNB8t8
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 4:06 PM

Frontline: "Sick Around the World"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/

Watch this, and know why our health care system is ranked 37th in the world. People should not be going bankrupt to pay for health care.

Posted by: thornwalker1 | October 27, 2008 4:06 PM

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 27, 2008 4:06 PM

why doesn't J M stop saying he has this great record, and name the things that have made him such a trusted household name! maybe he can't
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At the very least, he helped develop the Feingold MCCain act to try to control campaign spending.

He is not qualifed to be President, neither is Obama.

Obama has a bunch of stupid people around him, with Phd's, and such, who, using the tactics they did, and accepting the money they did, still can't seem to understand why they get no respect.

Or predict where it's going.

IL is stinking, and it's naive to think it will go away.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 4:04 PM

"We grudge no man a fortune in civil life if it is honorably obtained and well used...[but w]e should permit it to be gained only so long as the gaining represents benefit to the community." --Theodore Roosevelt (i.e., hero of John McCain)

Can you imagine the frothing-at-the-mouth we'd see from conservatives had Barack Obama said such a thing? "Socialist!!!"

Posted by: Lisa15 | October 27, 2008 4:04 PM

PASpilman

We all seem to be ignoring the Big 800 pound sign that the GOP is really hanging out there. Warning!! Black Man!! dont trust him. When has a president in our time every been associated with soo many negative labels regardless of his political leanings? Wow, I mean he has been called everything but the devil himself. I guess the GOP is saving that one for later this week to go with the ad showing Obama with Rev Wright. But you know the GOP is in trouble when rednecks start voting for Obama. Face it, Bush and Cheney have ruined the GOP with their policies. No matter how much you trash Obama with labels, some of them even contradict the others, people will not forget who got the country in the position it is currently in and they don't trust four more years of possibly the same policy. Saying maverick every five minutes and calling Obama every name under the sun will not make people ignore the problems they are facing today.

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 4:04 PM

John McCain is doing his best to swing the momentum back into his favor and convince voters that Senator Obama is going to raise everyone's taxes. McCain, Palin and their republican following try to paint democrats as politicians who will tax and spend. What they don't point out is there has only been TWO, 2 democrat presidents since 1970, 38 years. If taxing and spending took place at the federal level, it was presided over by republican presidents, the current one being the biggest spender. The republicans contolled the congress many of the last 38 years, 26 of which John McCain was a part of.

The republicans call their opponents "liberal" while the democrats refer to them as their "opponent". Interesting. If they are not calling fellow Americans anti-American, unpatriotic, they are calling them liberal because they believe in supporting the average citizen.

Senator McCain has some nerve to warn voters of a democrat controlled congress and white house after the horrible management that took place the recent 6 years that the republicans controlled the congress and white house. They did nothing to stop or turn around the economic alavalance this country is in, nothing to solve energy (Kerry was the only candidate talking about breaking America's dependency on foreign oil in 2004), and failed to ensure wall street was operating properly and honestly. Sad.

Posted by: ajackson3 | October 27, 2008 4:02 PM

Posted by Leftwithnochoice "McCain... What's Next? "I'll give everyone $100 who votes for me"? This is getting Pathetic. And bringing out his weirdo buddy Romney?
What the Hey?"
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What about the Acorn mess...a group that NOBAMA has supported. Or the number of states that are being investigated for fraudulent voter registration...many of them Obama staffers. What lengths will they go to get that man elected?

Don't even get me started on how he is tryiing to buy this election....

It really stinks that I will cast my vote honestly in this election, as will millions of other people...but someone is out there trying to figure out how to skirt the system.

Posted by: cymacat | October 27, 2008 4:01 PM

why doesn't J M stop saying he has this great record, and name the things that have made him such a trusted household name! maybe he can't. There's nothing in my community with his stamp on it besides war and deregulation. We can't say he hasn't warned us.

Posted by: aypub | October 27, 2008 3:58 PM

There is not a single statement within McCains speech that focuses on what's best for the United States.

This may be why the GOP is losing. It needs to stop focusing on winning, and start focusing on what's best for the nation.

— John, Tucson

Posted by: misterearl | October 27, 2008 3:58 PM

You mean tough times like your 8 houses and 13 fleets of vehicles, or the fact your daddy and grandaddy were Admirals and gave you everything you wanted in life. Yeah, you really struggled. I guess Obama's had it on a silver spoon from day one and that being abandoned by a father who didn't want to father him was well off, or him being left to his grandparents while his mother was off touring the world, or his mother having to be on food stamps and govt. assistance for them to even survive growing up, or even the fact that it took a two book deal just for him and his wife, who's struggles are even more remarkable than Barack's with a father who raised her and her brother while being diagnosed with MS at the age of 30, to pay off student loans only 4 years ago. See those are the kind of things Americans go through daily and Mr. McCain nor his rodeo queen don't understand struggles of middle america. How could they? Him nor Cindy have always had things handed to them without having to work hard and struggle. McCain as Obama says, is out of touch with us.

Posted by: rmattocks | October 27, 2008 3:55 PM

In addition to my previous posting another matter that Senator McCain must solve is the Sarah Palin issue. Not many people would vote for someone who has no compassion and kills innocent living beings in their environment as her fun time.

My blog is: http://maruangarita.blogspot.com/

Posted by: MaruAngarita | October 27, 2008 3:55 PM

McCain's "hero" is Teddy Roosevelt--a man who was a vigorous proponent of a progressive income tax, and inheritance and estate taxes. He came from wealth and privilege, and these taxes ran counter to his own interests, but he was man enough to put the nation's best interests ahead of his own.

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Right, and the same hypocrisy is indicative of Obama, too, but Obama can't even be bothered to site a Roosevelt, or even a Truman.

Most likely because he never studied, never developing an allegiance to true American political and economic theory.

Hardcore Chicago (LOL) is full of small time hoods, with an overblown sense of self.

I spent time reading, today, about Rezko, and Blago, and William Cellini (Republican fundraiser now under federal subpoena), and the rest, all of whom surround Obama, and those skunks got their little hands into every single IL state monetary fund, like lil cockroaches, they were.

I think the true is same of Washington types, too, hopefully, at least some of the politicians will open their eyes, understanding the implications to the state, their jobs.

Small time hoods, whether they be Tom Delay, or Gov Blago, of IL, aren't indicative of superior intellectual talent, you know?

And I think it's naive to think no one is doing anything about it.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 3:55 PM

Republicans used STEALH MONEY to collapse economy

Associated Press report...

WASHINGTON – Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.

In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI's chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain's campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September.

Freddie Mac's payments to DCI began shortly after the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee sent Hagel's bill to the then GOP-run Senate on July 28, 2005. All GOP members of the committee supported it; all Democrats opposed it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_bi_ge/the_influence_game_housing

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 27, 2008 3:55 PM

Compare the tenor and content of the following to virtually every other posting here and you can surely see why McCain is increasingly supported only by a few deadenders.....

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Obama is one angry, anti American, anti Capitalist, anti Corporate, anti growth, big government, big tax, huge entitlement Marxist political shady deceitful street punk hack.

That is exactly what he is and as a bonus he has an equally bitter angry racist wife.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 27, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: abqcleve | October 27, 2008 3:55 PM

"What tough times has McCain been through?"

McCain's tough time is seeing his use of the Neocon ideology collapse inward on him before his eyes.

Posted by: sketchpada | October 27, 2008 3:54 PM

McCain... What's Next?

"I'll give everyone $100 who votes for me"?

This is getting Pathetic. And bringing out his weirdo buddy Romney?

What the Hey?

Posted by: LeftwithNochoice | October 27, 2008 3:54 PM

We've had months of silly distractions from McCain: lipstick on a pig, Joe the Plumber -- and his inebriated twin, Joe Sixpack -- Obama the terrorist, Obama the socialist. None of this has worked so far. Maybe you could try gay marriage again. Whatever you do, try to enjoy yourselves.

— Christopher, Madison WI

Posted by: misterearl | October 27, 2008 3:53 PM

He doesn't know how many houses he's got but he want to be the President of the United States who must solve the economic crisis ! What Cain of senator is this ?

Posted by: pat972 | October 27, 2008 3:52 PM

Gee Senator you found 100 people to listen to you unveil the same thing again? And you wonder why even Aspergirl is voting for Obama.

Every vote counts. Please vote. Obama/Biden 08

America we have fallen down before but we will get back up together.

Posted by: scrappyc20001 | October 27, 2008 3:51 PM

Would Senator McCain improve the health plan coverage? The current McCain health plan is awful, and must be improved! Many people are voting for Senator Obama because of the alleged assurance of better health benefits for all including those with pre-existing conditions and special needs. Please keep in mind that the majority of citizens do not know international issues which may make Sen. Obama a questionable choice.

My blog is: http://maruangarita.blogspot.com/

Posted by: MaruAngarita | October 27, 2008 3:51 PM

johs: so Obama wants to raise taxes so that revenue will go down? do you really think that Democrats, who you hypothesize want more money so they can make voters dependent on their spending of it, would over and over again forego the additional revenue they would get if they were only smart enough to lower taxes instead of raise them? that it wouldn't occur to them to run on a platform of lowering taxes with the secret glee of knowing that would give them even more money to spend, and would be easier to run on than proposing to raise taxes?

why wouldn't a democrat try running on a cut taxes platform and even test the theory that revenues would go up? you would think that would be a no brainer, right?

the reason is simple - the proposition that cutting taxes raises revenue is absurd. of course there is a point at which increased marginal rates stifle the activity being taxed so that the net effect is no more revenue, but no one thinks we are on that side of the curve, at least as to income taxes. somewhere between 0% and 100% there is a maximum revenue %, and only on the right side of the peak (where there is no excuse to be at all, there being a point on the left side with equal revenue and more economic activity) is it true that reducing the marginal rate would increase revenue.

Only empirically can you ever know where you are, and you have to isolate other causes for revenue changes. You can't deduce that Bush's tax cuts raised anything. If they raised revenue, McCain wouldn't have called them "irresponsible." If they raised revenue, McCain's only argument would have been that the middle class should have gotten a tax break TOO, not INSTEAD, of the comfortably rich, because both would have paid for themself. no tax break that pays for itself can possibly be described as "irresponsible" so you are calling McCain stupid, not Obama.

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 27, 2008 3:50 PM

ChangeWhat

You know why Republicans cant win? Because instead of trying to convince swing voters and undecided voters who are suffering from Bush fatigue to vote for the GOP again they are trying to convince them that Obama is a marxist, racist, socialist, communist, radical muslim and terrorist. Things that the average swing voter or undecided are not going to go for because they know Obama is a member of congress. Congress does not allow marxist, socialist, communist or radical muslims into positions in government. Then when they don't listen to you you call them negative names and give them crazy negative labels. You altimately end up ailienating any voters outside of your base because you come off as over the top extremist who cant get along with anyone outside of your own viewpoint. Most people tend to be centrist more than extreme left of right. That means to you all of those people are idiots for not agreeing with your extreme views of Obama. How does that translate into votes for the GOP candidate. You want our vote based on us believing Obama is a marxist? Do you even know what a Marxist is without looking it up? No, this is just something you have been hearing from the right so you repeat it yourself. Your party is getting the perception as the lying cranky old people party who is mad at everyone for not voting for them and losing power. A bunch of sore losers ready to lash out at anyone who does not listen to their message of negativity and hate. Dont get mad at Obama, get mad at BUSH and CHENEY. They are the reason you lost congress, they will be the reason if you lose the presidency. Not because we are all marxist sympathizers. When will you realize that when you demonize people you are actually hurting your own party. They want to hear how the GOP is going to be better, not your version or perception of Obama. Wake up!

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 3:49 PM

The only realistic 'plan' that one more Republican president (following Bush) would have is a veto.
McCain's illusory steering wheel is not attached to anything, there would be virtually 'no' legislative agenda for a McCain presidency.

McCain is going after 'the stupid vote'; people who are without a clue about the legislative process.

McCain's lies mirror the Bush lies about 'uniting' the American people.

McCain has no credibility. He may as well promise the moon; he is impotent.

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Posted by: John_Chas_Webb | October 27, 2008 3:49 PM

The following Washington Post comment nic's are actually one single indivdual.
This person made these many multiple nics using multiple E-Mail accounts....too give an allusion of numbers and spam the thread with neocon nazi propaganda.....

Lola222
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ChangeWhat
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jammer88
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All are the same poster. This person used multiple e-mail accounts to manufacture these multiple Washington Post comment nic's

They are all really just one single
neocon nazi shill for the repug, thug's

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 27, 2008 3:48 PM

"I notice McCain has cut his former soul mate out of the picture. His new wingman is formerly bitter opponent, Mitt Romney."

Exactly my take on this. McCain is trying to shove Palin out of the picture and bring in Mitt Romney for the finished photo. This way people will think McCain and Romney rather than McCain and Sarah.

Posted by: sketchpada | October 27, 2008 3:46 PM

McCain's "hero" is Teddy Roosevelt--a man who was a vigorous proponent of a progressive income tax, and inheritance and estate taxes. He came from wealth and privilege, and these taxes ran counter to his own interests, but he was man enough to put the nation's best interests ahead of his own.

McCain ought to take a break and go read what TR had to say about taxes, the economy and fairness, and drop the pretext that his tax plan is based on anything other than self-interest.

He's admitted before he does not understand economics. He seems intent on proving his own ignorance with his every speech.

Posted by: jackson251 | October 27, 2008 3:46 PM

What tough times has McCain been through? As a Senator, was he serving in the 1930s during the depression? That the state of affairs the US economy is headed, can he relate by experience? Hogwash!

Did he face tough times personally? Let’s see … a spoiled 3rd generation Naval Academy brat that got by on Pa and Grandpa’s merits and achievements (both Admirals in the US Navy – I salute them). Didn’t have to pay for school or the 5 airplanes that he wrecked, the US citizens paid for those with their hard earned TAXED dollars.

Currently married to a Billionaire, has 7 homes and 13 cars! I have friends that are Directors, VPs, Presidents and none of them own more that one home or two cars. Boy, I wish I had it as tough as Senator McCain. Hmmm ….. Makes for a great retirement package …. VOTE November 4th! Obama/Biden08.

Posted by: Dash13-Fore | October 27, 2008 3:45 PM

LOL, McCain is dum

Posted by: Potter2 | October 27, 2008 3:43 PM

Picture a 10 year old child in front of an electrical switch which says, "Warning: Turning on this switch will have dire consequences." And of course, the kid flicks the switch, just to see what will happen.

The same thing is occurring whenever someone decides to vote for Sen. Obama...they're ignoring all the warning signs.

Posted by: PASpilman | October 27, 2008 3:43 PM

Hmm McSame and the US economy?

McSame... the same tax policy as Bush.

And we all know how that has panned out. >:-[

Just like Bush he is a Trust Fund, Frat Boy.

Bush ran a business so he beats McSame there. Well sort of, every business Bush has ever run has gone belly up even the US Government.

So I guess McSame can say he has never made the wrong business decision Bush has.

No McSame has never run a business his entire life.

In fact McSame has never done an honest days hard work for his own dollar his entire life.

After his trust fund it was his wife who looked after his finances and now gives him an allowance. She pays for the Eight Homes and Fourteen Cars.

As to McSame's Gambling Addiction his wife covers that. Which is a lot as he is one of the unluckiest gamblers ever! He looses so much Cindy has had to call him on his gambling debts several times. Origin of him calling her the "C" word.

Oh and he is a self admitted economic moron.

Hmm McSame and the US economy?

Hmm NO.

NO WAY.

NEVER!

NOT A SNOWBALLS CHANCE...

Posted by: walker1 | October 27, 2008 3:43 PM

Republicans used STEALH MONEY to collapse economy

Associated Press report...

WASHINGTON – Freddie Mac secretly paid a Republican consulting firm $2 million to kill legislation that would have regulated and trimmed the mortgage finance giant and its sister company, Fannie Mae, three years before the government took control to prevent their collapse.

In the cross hairs of the campaign carried out by DCI of Washington were Republican senators and a regulatory overhaul bill sponsored by Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. DCI's chief executive is Doug Goodyear, whom John McCain's campaign later hired to manage the GOP convention in September.

Freddie Mac's payments to DCI began shortly after the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee sent Hagel's bill to the then GOP-run Senate on July 28, 2005. All GOP members of the committee supported it; all Democrats opposed it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081020/ap_on_bi_ge/the_influence_game_housing

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 27, 2008 3:43 PM

Just curious but why does McCain's economy speech get top billing and Obama's closing argument get hardly a mention? McCain's speech is no different than the "he's a big fat socialist liberal who will raise your taxes" line he's been pushing for weeks. The only difference is he has Mitt Romney standing with him.

Why is this the top story?

Posted by: ElrodinTennessee | October 27, 2008 3:43 PM

MY GOD!!

Have you ever seen a more BRAINLESS duo than Palin and Elizabeth Hasselbeck??!!!

Comedy Fodder for YEARS!


Anyone who doesn't like Palin is sexist and unpatriotic!!

LMAO

Posted by: misssymoto | October 27, 2008 3:42 PM

Dear Washington DC Obama Headquarters (aka The Washington Post) - Don't you think it is newsworthy that a video of an Obama interview from 2001 just surfaced in which he basically calls it a "tragedy" that the Supreme Court elected not to rule on redistributing wealth? Why does this not appear front and center on your site?

Posted by: dslevine | October 27, 2008 3:41 PM

McCain is out of ideas, out of his league, and just about out of time.

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I would say Obama has been handed this election, his career, and I hope those responsible for his "brilliant electoral tactics" don't forget this, and start to think themselves competent genius, like Rove.

And I think McCain is done, too, but again, stranger things have happened.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | October 27, 2008 3:40 PM


Kristol advises McCain campaign to have Palin go on talk shows becasue'...many people would turn in see her'.

What he did not say is that people would turn in to watch her in horror.

McCain is a dead end

Posted by: wrock76taolcom | October 27, 2008 3:37 PM

The following Washington Post comment nic's are actually one single indivdual.
This person made these many multiple nics using multiple E-Mail accounts....too give an allusion of numbers and spam the thread with neocon nazi propaganda.....

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All are the same poster. This person used multiple e-mail accounts to manufacture these multiple Washington Post comment nic's

They are all really just one single
neocon nazi shill for the repug, thug's

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 27, 2008 3:36 PM

Have no fear everyone. John McCain is gonna solve all our problems. Hooray!

Posted by: guitar_blue | October 27, 2008 3:36 PM

There are 2 very good reasons to vote for McCain

(1) Pelosi
(2) Reid

If we have

(1) Pelosi
(2) Reid
(3) Obama

Then every liberal whack job piece of garbage leglislation will go through both house and senate and get rubber stamped by Obama. There is no question of 'If', the real question is 'How Much' garbage will they pass.

If instead you have

(1) Pelosi
(2) Reid
(3) McCain

Then there is a prayer that some fiscal sense will enter into the mix, and McCain will veto/threaten to veto a large amount of the garbage rising up from the hill.

Do you really want unrestricted power for Reid and Pelosi? How many years will it take to get over the liberal hangover that will come with the spending spree?

Posted by: Wiggan | October 27, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

//

You talk as though the last eight years were a rousing success. Just what about the Bush policies do you hope to continue?

Posted by: Attucks | October 27, 2008 3:35 PM

to adrienne_najjar

You certainly bring out the worst in the people you date or know well enough to characterize them, are you sure all of them were Republicans or are you just another miserable Democrat that only knows how to complain in the vilest and untruthful manner.

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 3:35 PM

McCain.Palin are nothing more than puppets of the Communist Party set up, signed, sealed, and delivered by Bush.Cheney. With the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy, he just turned America into a Communistic country. Where you see McCain.Palin, you see Bush.Cheney in redistribution of wealth to the top, Communistic Party. Everyone else below the top pays everything, I mean everything 100% into the government, and they get nothing in return except low rent housing, welfare, and Siberian Camps for jobs. Sound familiar. If you elect McCain.Palin, you will continue to support his anger he has of the American people. He wants the American people to suffer just like he did in the POW camps of Vietnam, a COMMUNIST country, still today. McCain and most of Vietnam Vets hate Americans and they can't wait to unleash their anger onto the American people. McCain really has misdirected anger, which should be towards his father and the military. This anger is over 35 to 40 years old. Can you image what will become of America with that type of anger? Do you really understand what will happen? Oh my God. God bless America and the American people, because you have no idea what's coming with McCain.Palin. Siberian Camps are cold, cold, cold. The Bush.Cheney tax cuts created the worst distribution of wealth, and the French who were in this situation caused a Revolution that recentered the government. Do you want to be a slave to Communism, especially those of Vietnam? Do you want to continue giving all that you have to the wealthy, and you have nothing? Do you want to support Communism which doesn't redistribute the wealth? They keep it for those in the Party, and for those in power only. Fight against this anger. Fight against this horrible situation that will turn very quickly against the American people if you allow McCain.Palin to continue this disease of Communism set up by Bush.Cheney. Again, where you see McCain.Palin, you see Bush.Cheney and a failed economy, failed 2 wars, failed image of America, failed policies of the American people, and total disrespect to the Constitution of the United States of America. The Founding Fathers set up the Constitution to guard against this type of Dictatorship. If you don't want America to be harmed further by McCain's and his "brothers'" anger, don't elect him and don't elect Palin. They are very dangerous and extremely risky gamble that only the Viet Con understand in Vietnam Roulette Craps. If you choose Mc.Cain.Palin, you just might get the bullet. Lastly, you may want to check out Senator McCain's look alike, Reagan's Senator friend, Senator Paul Laxalt of Nevada. He was involved in corruption in the 80s in Mafia activities. Is your government monies safe? Does McCain place bets with American government monies or other countries' monies, say, Asian countries like Vietnam, again I say, COMMUNISTIC still today.

Posted by: lgg51 | October 27, 2008 3:34 PM

Choosing John McCain is a mistake no matter whom he is paired with.

Posted by: mouli_7982 | October 27, 2008 3:34 PM

Interesting posts. There seem to be a lot of people confused about 'socialism'.

Socialism is state ownership of the means of production. Unless someone has some secret tapes they aren't sharing, nothing Obama has said, written or done indicates he is a socialist, or that he will abolish private property.

You may not like his tax policies; you may think he is too liberal - fair enough. But raising the marginal tax rate on capital gains, or proposing a health care plan doesn't exactly make him Karl Marx.

So don't worry about your rich friends. Five percent of the population will still own 75 percent of the country's wealth, even under an Obama administration.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | October 27, 2008 3:34 PM

ChangeWhat: Obama was appointed to the board with Ayers by one of the most prominent Republicans alive, and Nancy Reagan's best friend. I don't know any lazy slugs who make $250K. Obama proposes exactly what McCain proposed when he opposed the Bush cuts as mistargeted, tax cuts to the hard working middle class, not the comfortably rich. If you let the Bush cuts expire, and implement a tax cut below 250K, you get exactly that. McCain just lies to his audience (none of whom make more than 250K) that they are the hard working folks that the money will come from, and he invents some mythical lazy folks (to substitute for the real hard working middle class) and says they are the undeserving folks all this money will go to. just lies.

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 27, 2008 3:34 PM

Read the shocking details:

http://www.obamaunveiled.com

Are you convinced?

Posted by: nnia | October 27, 2008 3:33 PM

McCain is out of ideas, out of his league, and just about out of time.

Posted by: labman57 | October 27, 2008 3:32 PM

Hey...

Sarah's not in the picture with his
"advisers", Meg Whitman and Mitt Romney...both of whom could have been VP.

She's been ditched!

Wonder if she's sitting on a hotel bed with a quart of Jack Daniels, cutting him out of all their campaign pictures.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 27, 2008 3:32 PM

have a look at the link below, it's impressive to see this video in which Mac Cain in 2000 has the same point of view on tax issue as Obama in 2008, incredible :

http://dmiessler.com/blog/if-this-gets-out-mccain-will-lose-what-remains-of-his-integrity-in-the-minds-of-his-supporters

Posted by: Thibault_France | October 27, 2008 3:30 PM

EARTH TO SENATOR McCAIN:

You are totally out of touch with reality, especially the economy (as you have stated), which is the number one issue in American's minds these days - and your days as a presidential candidate are numbered (8 days or so...).

My family pays taxes, didn't succumb to predatory lenders, and invested in an un-regulated stock market. And yet, two of my family members are now out of work - laid off due to the failures of a Republican president who is anti-regulation and clings to private enterprise as the solution, and a Congress controlled by Republicans for most of that time. Seems your party has been the problem.

And what do you have to say? Nothing. It's time for you to head to one of your retirement homes. You have lost my respect and, senator, I believe you yourself know you have lost your dignity in this campaign.

Say goodnight, gracefully.

Posted by: CaptainJohn2525 | October 27, 2008 3:30 PM

"Hawaii Governor sealed Obama's records. What is he hiding? Why can't he show his real birth certificate. He is a fraud that is why. He was born in Kenya. He has lied about so many things. Where there is smoke, there is fire."


If Senator Obama were born in Kenya, not in the US, his records would be held by the INS and/or State Dept, not the Governor of Hawaii.

Posted by: bsimon1 | October 27, 2008 3:30 PM

hariseldonsr

What did the Chinese say about giving a company a tax break and they send the poor mans job oversees for lower wages? Is there a proverb that covers that?

Posted by: gdavis4 | October 27, 2008 3:28 PM

8 days until Barack Obama is elected president. YES WE CAN :-)

Posted by: Gipper1 | October 27, 2008 3:27 PM

A dangerous threesome would be John McCain of 2000, John McCain the Maverick of 2004 and John McCain the Bush look-A-Like of 2007.

Posted by: GTFOOH | October 27, 2008 3:27 PM

Don't people in America's farm belt realize that any tax breaks given to the middle class will most likely be spent mostly on the food that farmers produce? Would they prefer the money go to the wealthy who will just buy gold to protect themselves from our failing economy?

Posted by: JimZ1 | October 27, 2008 3:25 PM

MCCAIN PROBLEMS is, he doesn't know what to do anymore to make more AMERICAN PEOPLE to hates BARACK OBAMA fo him to win the ELECTION.
All the lies he talks everyday about BARACK.


AMERICA VOTE,VOTE FOR OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 3:25 PM

Hmm McSame and the US economy?

McSame the same tax policy as Bush.

And we all know how that has panned out. >:-[

Just like Bush he is a Trust Fund, Frat Boy.

Bush ran a business so he beats McSame there. Well sort of, every business Bush has ever run has gone belly up even the US Government.

So I guess McSame can say he has never made the wrong business decision Bush has.

No McSame has never run a business his entire life.

Infact McSame has never done an honnest days hard work for his own dollar his entire life.

After his trust fund it was his wife who looked after his finaces and now gives him an allowance. She pays for the Eight Homes and Fourteen Cars.

As to McSame's Gambling Addiction his wife covers that. Which is a lot as he is one of the unlucky-est gamblers ever he looses so much Cidy has had to call him on his gambling debts several times. Origin of him calling her the "C" word.

Oh and he is a self admited economic moron.

Hmm McSame and the US economy?

Hmm NO.

NO WAY.

NEVER!

NOT A SNOWBALLS CHANCE...

Posted by: walker1 | October 27, 2008 3:25 PM

This situation transpirted during the Bush Administration with NO protest from any one.

C'mon McSame, one must do better than that!

Posted by: neec13 | October 27, 2008 3:23 PM

jeanbrandt

Your ignorance is embarrassing. Just pitifully ignorant.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 27, 2008 3:22 PM

There's an ancient chinese republican saying - give a poor man a tax break and you feed him for a day; give a company a tax break so he can give a poor man a job and you feed him for the rest of his life. The ancient chinese democratic response to this is, of course, go fish...

Posted by: hariseldonsr | October 27, 2008 3:20 PM

Reply to:
Where do they keep coming up with the increased tax line?

Obama will cut taxes for everyone w=except the ultra wealthy.

And they are in an unbelievable lather over the taxes going up from 35% to 39.5%.

Posted by: mtobias1 | October 27, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

___________________________________

Since the Bush tax cuts on the top 1% resulted in 2 times as much tax revenues from this group it is reasonable to assume a 50% drop. The other 4% will have their employment contracts redrawn to have more income deferred. Since Obama has 80 billion for redistribution and 250 Billion net new spending, most sane people know he will do the same thing Clinton did 3 months after he was elected and that was to raise taxes on everyone. All Obama and his pals Pelosi and Reid have to do is let the Bush tax cuts expire and just add some of the rebates and credits, then just say as Clinton did "Circumstances wouldn't let me do what I wanted to do".

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 3:20 PM

People who vote republican fall into one or more of the following categories:

1. homophobic
2. tax-phobic
3. selfish
4. religious hypocrites
5. mean spirited
6. hateful
7. sexually repressed
8. anal retentive
9. self-righteous
10. misogynist

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | October 27, 2008 3:20 PM

Drainyou,

You are a naive fool....get with it moron. Here is your Cult Leader. He is one scary Marxist. You like that, uh? Or could it be it doesn't matter to you, you couldn't care less that Obama is a radical Marxist. That is no big deal to you because you are comforted by the Marxist's lofty big government deceitful blather..pitiful...take a look stooge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 27, 2008 3:20 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLVSURlFoQs
pandering, stupid, embarrassing to watch; he's looking as articulate and well-versed as bush.

Posted by: e9999999 | October 27, 2008 3:19 PM

Announced today: Hawaii Governor sealed Obama's records. What is he hiding? Why can't he show his real birth certificate. He is a fraud that is why. He was born in Kenya. He has lied about so many things. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

If he was born in the US, he wouldn't hesitate to show his birth certificate. I am in fear that he is part of a bigger plan to take over America. God help us.

News people. Please stand up for us because if Obama gets in office, he will tell you what you can report if you even have that position again. It could be all "state" run news broadcasting.

Posted by: Chance1 | October 27, 2008 3:16 PM

Thank God for all those Democrats - in both the House and the Senate. It is going to take every one of them - and President Obama - working together to fix the awful mess the Republicans have made during the past 8 years.

Posted by: jeanbrandt | October 27, 2008 3:15 PM

Meg Whitman? Isn't she THEONE that told us to eat cake? Or was it that she was secretary of the treasury for Mr. Potato Head?

Posted by: Genefox1 | October 27, 2008 3:14 PM

JoeT1

Is it a lie to that your Marxist cult leader has / had associations with Terrorists, Racists, and South Chicago Political Thug Felons. Is it a lie that your Cult Leader has no experience, was an ACORN punk trainer and his campaign gave big money to them. Is it a lie that the Marxist will take hard earned money and give it those that are slugs like you? It that a lie moron?

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 27, 2008 3:14 PM

"Our economy is structurally sound for the long term"
George W Bush - Feb 11, 2008


"The American people can remain confident in the soundness and the resilience of our financial system"
Henry Paulson - Sept 15, 2008


"The economy is fundamentally sound"
Herbert Hoover - October, 1931


"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"
John McCain - Sept 15, 2008
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJThPjvscFs
.


McCain does not have the ability to fix this economic crisis. After declaring the fundamentals of the economy strong, he created a political circus in Washington last week by mucking up bailout negotiations; a deplorable stunt, considering he and his political cronies helped cause the current meltdown.


It was McCain and his economic adviser Phil Gramm who pushed for the deregulation that helped lead to the banking crisis, and it was McCain's crony Rick Davis who had deep lobbyist ties to Freddie Mac. Don't let others be fooled by McCain's economic grandstanding because the reality is his policies and principles will only exacerbate our financial hardships.


McCain is being deceitful with his sudden populist message and support for regulation; his economic policies still favor our nation's wealthy elite.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk
.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 3:13 PM

So where is the story about Senator Obama's speech today which was more positive and more about hope than Senator McCain's almost entirely negative attack on Obama.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 27, 2008 3:13 PM


Where do they keep coming up with the increased tax line?

Obama will cut taxes for everyone w=except the ultra wealthy.

And they are in an unbelievable lather over the taxes going up from 35% to 39.5%.

Posted by: mtobias1 | October 27, 2008 3:11 PM

This is no open book for Obama, just closed & sealed, his privacy.
When you are running for President.. there is nothing private about that, we are into your business. Thats what a real servant of public is, a person with open book.
So its evident, he didn't want this..for his reasons alone.

I know it didn't seem like it at first, we were looking.. but we love America too much, we gave you a chance.
We are voting for the future of our young people & America..
McCain just happens to be the candidate, he has nothing to lose, but we do..
You have a lot to lose, but we don't
Thats that the diffence/conflict of interest.
This is what we are steering America away from..same old thing.
Get prepared next young REAL President, who deserves this position.
Perserve & Reserve it for YOU>
Please Stand, up.. its your turn, not Obamas.

Posted by: suttons77hotmailcom | October 27, 2008 3:10 PM

Obama is one angry, anti American, anti Capitalist, anti Corporate, anti growth, big government, big tax, huge entitlement Marxist political shady deceitful street punk hack.

That is exactly what he is and as a bonus he has an equally bitter angry racist wife.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | October 27, 2008 3:10 PM

McCain's attacks have gotten to the point where they can't work, because they are so inconsistent and incoherent no one can follow what he is trying to lie about anymore. Is Obama letting the Bush cuts expire to pay for more spending, or to give welfare to the lazy poor? McCain can't make up his mind which lie to tell. And most people by now have figured out that they are the folks who would receive Obama's actual tax cut.

In other words, even if you run a sleazy, dishonest, gutter campaign, you have to keep your slimy lies straight or people will just tune you out, or will walk away confused instead of angry when it sinks in that the lie you just heard doesn't square with the lie you heard yesterday.

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 27, 2008 3:09 PM

The Obama Economic Plan - who are the first to go then who is next:
>Defense jobs - policy "out of Iraq"
>Medical Insurance company jobs 'govt. healthcare'
>Financial Services (even more)
>Pharmaceutical jobs - congressional reg
>Fossil Fuel Energy jobs-energy policy
>Steel industry jobs- Defense and energy policy
>Transportation jobs - energy policy and overall economy
2nd tier
>Coal Industry
>Sevice industries that rely on these industries

Big winners
>Federal Government
>Windmill manufacturers

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 3:08 PM

There are 2 very good reasons to vote for McCain

(1) Pelosi
(2) Reid

If we have

(1) Pelosi
(2) Reid
(3) Obama

Then every liberal whack job piece of garbage leglislation will go through both house and senate and get rubber stamped by Obama. There is no question of 'If', the real question is 'How Much' garbage will they pass.

If instead you have

(1) Pelosi
(2) Reid
(3) McCain

Then there is a prayer that some fiscal sense will enter into the mix, and McCain will veto/threaten to veto a large amount of the garbage rising up from the hill.

Do you really want unrestricted power for Reid and Pelosi? How many years will it take to get over the liberal hangover that will come with the spending spree?

Posted by: Wiggan | October 27, 2008 3:08 PM

The Obama Economic Plan - who are the first to go then who is next:
>Defense jobs - policy "out of Iraq"
>Medical Insurance company jobs 'govt. healthcare'
>Financial Services (even more)
>Pharmaceutical jobs - congressional reg
>Fossil Fuel Energy jobs-energy policy
>Steel industry jobs- Defense and energy policy
>Transportation jobs - energy policy and overall economy
2nd tier
>Coal Industry
>Sevice industries that rely on these industries

Big winners
>Federal Government
>Windmill manufacturers

Posted by: johs | October 27, 2008 3:08 PM

Don't people in America's farm belt realize that any tax breaks given to the middle class will most likely be spent mostly on the food that farmers produce? Would they prefer the money go to the wealthy who will just buy gold to protect themselves from our failing economy?

Posted by: JimZ1 | October 27, 2008 3:07 PM

Two things have always troubled me about McCain:

1) he's not serious about ending the war in Iraq (or Afghanistan, either). This is a guy who will happily talk your ear off about why we should never have given up on Vietnam. That's the subtext to his opposition to a timetable. Alerting the enemy has nothing to do with it -- he's not leaving anyway. So figure $15-20 billion a month (with inflation) for the foreseeable future. And a lot of that money will be going overseas, or to Halliburton.

2) His economic advisory team is not reassuring. Carly Fiorina is a failed CEO; just ask the Board of HP if they'd have her back. Meg Whitman's 'recession-proof' E-Bay is experiencing a significant downturn. And Mitt -- well, Mitt is part of the problem. He's a venture capitalist of the sort who'd cheerfully outsource a few hundred thousand jobs to China or Colombia if there was another 10% margin in it.

I understand the GOP insisting they still can win -- you wouldn't want to discourage your supporters from bothering to vote -- but it's mostly smoke and mirrors.

Don't feel sorry for the GOP. They've managed to mess up the country and will now push it off on the Democrats. Meanwhile the real powers in the GOP will be off in a suite at the Bellagio, planning their next war...

Posted by: Samson151 | October 27, 2008 3:05 PM

McCain - a patetic and delusional old geezer, interested solely in his own self-aggrandizement, and devoid of any redeeming qualities.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | October 27, 2008 3:03 PM


He still doesn't get it. The American people -- other than the right wing whacko "base" -- do not want to hear these attacks. It hasn't worked, has in fact, hurt, and yet he keep on, and the MSM keeps typing it up.

Last week’s New York Times/CBS News poll showed 64 percent of voters saying McCain is spending more time attacking the other candidate than explaining what he would do as president. Just 22 percent say the same of Obama.

All McCain is doing is tarnishing his reputation and turning independents against him.

At long last the man has no shame.

Posted by: monk4hall | October 27, 2008 3:03 PM

John McCain is a liar.

If he has solutions to all our economic problems (as well as capturing Bin Laden and "winning" wars)- why is he waiting to get elected before he tells us what the solutions are? Country first my a$$.

Posted by: yellow_jacket98 | October 27, 2008 3:01 PM

It's so sad to see Senator McCain become such an out and out liar. The Obama tax plan really does reduce taxes for 95% of taxpayers while returning tax rates for the 5% wealthiest to the level they were at before the temporary Bush reductions. It's only a 3 percentage point increase for the wealthiest amongst us. If anybody can afford it, we can. Our economic system has enabled us to gain substantial wealth -- we owe it to pay a higher rate of taxes since we've been the primary beneficiary of the nation's largess. It really is the patriotic thing to do.

Posted by: dl49 | October 27, 2008 3:00 PM

If you think Obama hasn't had to put up with criticism of just about everything about him, then may i ask where you have been for a year?
And where can i find the video of Palin being crucified???

Posted by: Superman825 | October 27, 2008 3:00 PM


Utterly out of ideas. This is his campaign now, and the MSM dutifully types it up: McCain hammers Obama on ...
McCain slams Obama on ... McCain attacks Obama on ....

What does it say about a candidate when the best he can come up with is .. please, please don't elect Obama because it would mean Democrats are in charge of all three houses! Cute the whining and boo-hoo-hooing.


Posted by: monk4hall | October 27, 2008 2:56 PM

Honestly looking at both sides, I agree with Obama's policies moreso than I do McCain's. Watching their behaviors on top of their policies, I furthermore trust Obama moreso than McCain, to handle the job. When it comes down to their shown thought processes, I furthermore trust Obama moreso than I do McCain. Watching the two, it appears Obama is more authentic to work on this country's behalf, moreso than McCain. I trust Obama to work on behalf of the vast of our citizens, and to really (as an outsider) look at what has been going on in that White House. I trust him to help restore some credibility to this nation.

Come on Ohio, Colorado, Virginia, and the whole rest of the United States! Deliver a past due victory for us all! Lets rebuild our country together! Lets start with some change. Lets vote for another course of action other than the neglect this nation has gotten over the past recent years. McCain looks to bring more ignorance to the table on issues that seems quite basic to me, with his supposed experience, and he willfully proposes neglect. His policies and attitudes do not reflect, to me, a man who is seeking to be president of the United States, but a president IN the United States. It's time we get one, after these past few years, that works in our collective favor. We are part of this nation's solution. We ought be included, EQUALLY included, and not be subjected to dictating policies predominantly pro-wealthy which McCain supports. We deserve a president who has been willing to talk to us as adults, and tell us what the plans are. I have hope that this nation will not give those specific Republicans a swift ride to our White House, with their fear, non-informational tactics. We can do better. It appears to me, for the good of my people, that Obama is the best choice of the two.

Obama and Biden (Country First Indeed) '08
It's America's Time

Posted by: Obama2008 | October 27, 2008 2:55 PM

"McCain told a crowd of about 100 people after meeting with
his economic advisers."

A 'crowd' of 100 people, that is about the number of people inspired by McCain's policies.

Compare that with 100,000 + people in Denver that Obama drew. Now that is inspiration sending the message: We Can Do Better.


Posted by: DrWho2 | October 27, 2008 2:55 PM

When McCain says, "both of us disagree with President Bush on the economy", he is lying.
I think that if you cannot name a single disagreement between Bush and McCain on the economy, that qualifies as full agreement.
I'll say it again: McCain is lying. End of Fu@#ing story.

Posted by: Superman825 | October 27, 2008 2:53 PM

The only reason Obama is winning is because the media has pumped him up in front of the American people, not for what he is but for what they want voters to think he is. The other factor is that he is a black man. If he wasn't black, and if he was a republican, this same man would be crucified just like they are doing it to Palin. Get real with all these comments regarding his qualities. We don't even know what his qualities are beyond his big high up podium where he speaks so eloquently to his followers. I'm not saying that McCain is perfect but he should be about 20 points behind with the political climate being what it is and he could very well win this thing. The media just wants people to get it into their heads that Obama will win so when McCain pulls this off, there will be an uproar and everyone will cry foul. Anything can happen at this point because a week is a long time in politics so get off your high Obama the messiah horsed and see things for what they really are.

Posted by: ontheblvd | October 27, 2008 2:53 PM

After listening to both McCain and Obama today, Obama is the only one who has consistenly stated his positions on a number of issues. It should be clear to anyone who will listen that no one making a salary under $250K will have a tax increase and this goes for small businesses.

McCain is selling the same snake oil that Republicans have used for years to get middle-class and poor Americans to vote for them. Give the very wealthy among us great tax breaks and more money and they will employ more people. "Trickle down" needs to die with this election. Listen closely, McCain will give those high paid CEOs even more money.

The McCain argument about "wealth distribution" or "spreading the wealth around" is a bogus argument. From the very first day that the federal government received its very first tax dollars, there was a redistribution of wealth. I know that I do not receive all of my tax dollars back each year. Some of them obviously go to support the very poor state of Alaska, a state so poor that its per capita pork barrel receipts from the fed are the highest in the nation.

There is no need for me to sit here and weep because of the distribution of my tax dollars to other entities. However, McCain is in fact pitching an argument that has the seeds of distruction for the United States as we know it. The problem with wealthy people (and I include McCain in this category) is that they want all of theirs back plus mine also. Listen carefully America. Listen carefully.

Posted by: EarlC | October 27, 2008 2:52 PM

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Posted by: treetopflyer | October 27, 2008 2:51 PM

When the Republicans were in control in congress and the
presidency, they thought it was great, didn't they?

Now McCain cautions against Democratic control of these branches.

Re:" 'dangerous threesome' of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Leader Harry Reid and Obama.'

They will be a great threesome.

Posted by: janye1 | October 27, 2008 2:51 PM


No matter how much McCain hammers at his opponent, it is futile. McCain made it a part of his policy to distort things the other camp stood for.

Those who follow the news realize that McCain stretches the facts to suit his opportunistic ambitions.

McCain is a dead end.

Posted by: wrock76taolcom | October 27, 2008 2:49 PM

God forbid Obama actually do what Keynes would do in this situation. McCain's argument is incredibly irritating because it is so close to what Herbert Hoover was arguing leading into the Great Depression. What's worse, anybody that took no more than US history in high school should be able to see that.

Posted by: Booyah5000 | October 27, 2008 2:47 PM

McCain is ridiculous. His is a vanity campaign, nothing more. His only policy is elect John McCain. The Voodoo Economics he espouses are precisely what created the present mess. The policies he attacks are those of Clinton; they are those of Bernanke and Buffet, who can hardly be called wild-eyed liberals; and those of John McCain circa 1999-2002.

Posted by: mnjam | October 27, 2008 2:41 PM

Despite all predictions, this election is not, in fact, about Bush. He's a non-entity in it all.

That's fairly remarkable. And against the odds, the McCain/Palin campaign has managed to suck entirely on its own. Sure, the Democrats wanted to paint McCain (accurately, when it comes to nearly all actual policy positions) as the second coming of Bush. But McCain resisted the label, and instead found ways to suck that were completely independent of his ties to Bush.

McCain: He's terrible at giving speeches, yes. His policies are dismal, and more to the point are badly elucidated -- when he's willing to talk about them at all. We know he's for the Iraq War: we don't know anything he intends to do differently, except do more of it and presume it'll all work out this time around. His choice of Palin for the number two spot was, from the standpoint of anyone not a hardcore conservative, bizarre, and smacked of the erratic, shoot-from-the-hip nature of decision making that his past detractors had warned of. His campaign managers have been vitriolic towards the press, and dismissive of the public, and as erratic as their own candidate. His vaunted surrogates have played a round-robin game of publicly humiliating themselves and their candidate (attaching himself to Phil Gramm, noted hellspawn of all that is economically manipulative and devastating, was an inspired touch.) And his behavior during this economic crisis -- making a show of tooling down to Washington to "solve" things, and having his party dissolve into chaos around him, and then rejoining his campaign with nothing "solved" at all, and things in fact much, much worse, and looking for all the world like a man who has just been pied in the face by circumstance -- has been a complete and very public fiasco. He has done his very best to manage to convince everyone that he is, in fact, not anything like presidential material. He's never looked less presidential.

Oh -- and his more impromptu surrogates, people like "Joe the Plumber" and "Tape #254 Of Sarah Palin Saying Something Crazy" and "Campaign Supporter Not Really Attacked At ATM" have added a burnt-popcorn, sideshow quality to the campaign. That hasn't helped.

So... congratulations to McCain, I guess. He managed to do the seemingly impossible -- be trailing in the election not because people were deathly tired of George W. Bush and didn't want anything to do with his party, but because people are deathly tired of John McCain, as well. And I think the award needs to be shared communally, because at all levels of the Republican Party, candidates seem to be going out of their way to make themselves similarly dislikable, out of touch, or (and this is the favorite approach) be ranting with such gusto about the incipient socialism if any of you poor cretins out there dare get better healthcare or a more stable economy that they seem, to be blunt, f---ing nuts.
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 2:39 PM

I was undecided in this election for sometime. I find Obama's following somewhat "scary" and McCain's lack of "understandable." But as we get closer to Election Day, I'm more uneasy with Obama.

Not releasing his medical records -- his educational records. What's the problem? What might they reveal that is now hidden from us?

And, we are a product of our parents. So looking at his mother's very socialistic work in other countries and her beliefs -- I worry.

His "murdering" cousin in Kenya and his support of him.

His many years of religious teachings in a church that seems to preach that God must repay the black people by punishing the white people.

And, all this campaign money raised -- where is it coming from? For someone who wanted campaign reform, this seems wrong to me.

So needless to say, I have doubts about Obama since I began my own research vs. just accepting what was told to me by the media and such. I became my own research because I was leaning toward voting for Obama. But I needed to try to answer for myself some of the items still unanswered about him.

I'm sorry to say that it is all still too muddy. I have come away with to many unanswered questions. So I will vote for McCain as I have no doubt about his loyalty and allegiance to America. I'm sorry to say I do not have the same belief in Obama. For the love and protection of America, I hope I am wrong about my feelings about Obama. God Bless Us ALL in these difficult days ahead!

Posted by: dogday1 | October 27, 2008 2:38 PM

How are these latest tactics working out for you McCain?

Do you get the feeling no one is listening?

Blaming it on the media are you?

WE are listening, we are hearing, we don't want you.

Posted by: khote14 | October 27, 2008 2:34 PM

The stupidity and pure idiocy of the McCaint campaign and the disturbed woman who carved a "backwards" B on her face and claimed that a 6'4' Black man did it.....

Ashley Todd here to behold and laugh at....

http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/7281


As stated on the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the Republican candidates got in on this, too.....

"The day after the purported attack, both Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin called Ms. Todd, offering words of comfort," the newspaper reported Saturday.

"Yesterday, McCain-Palin campaign spokesman Peter Feldman issued a statement: 'This is a sad situation. We hope she gets the help she needs.'"

Turns out the story was a hoax.

Any armchair Kojak could have looked at the facts as reported to police in Pittsburgh last Wednesday night and advised a little caution in what was said about the incident, particularly given its racial overtones and its timing. It didn't take long before the alleged victim admitted she made the whole thing up.

Now she's charged with filing a false report.

Moody probably regrets even addressing the incident on the Fox Forum web site.

Then again, this is Fox we're talking about, a cable "news" operation that just hasn't set the bar very high for veracity and objectivity. I'm not sure that "caution" or "careful" are words heard at story conferences in any television news operation, local or national, and least of all at one with the right-wing bias of Fox.

The McCaint volunteer story had all the makings of a hot, juicy, racially-charged story. In terms of its sensationalist aspect, it was too "good" to be true -- -- exactly the reason to wait to see if it was true.

Moody went a little further with his comment on this caper.....

"If [the victim's] allegations are proven accurate, some voters may revisit their support for Senator Obama, not because they are racists (with due respect to Rep. John Murtha), but because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

"If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."

.....a "watershed event" and about McCain's campaign being linked to race-baiting.

It's always good advice to wait a decent interval before characterizing anything as a "watershed event." That's a newspaper sensibility and standard.

But in the age of all-news-all-the-time TV and the blogosphere, there's the pressure to rush pronouncements or make fierce assertions.

Fox and Moody played that game and got burned with a backwards B.....

Sad....just like the peeeuuuu Palin/McCaint campaign...ready to scar themselves in a lie.....

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 27, 2008 2:33 PM

The only policy that will work is this:
1. Raise taxes on the wealthy. Time for "trickle up".
2. Big stimulus to the middle class. They will spend it on Main Street rather than Wall Street. This will make a huge difference on our economy. No more golden parachutes and unregulated handouts to banks who are not required to loosen lending.
3. Regulate, regulate, regulate.
4. Bring jobs back to the USA by giving tax breaks to green industries. Takes care of global warming too.

Obama will do all these and more. Save us, save yourselves. I'm also talking to all white men out there who think McCain will take care of them. That frail, big-egoed, rich man who sat on his ass for 26 years and lived off his heiress wife's money needs to go. He's a slime living a lie that he's a war hero and honorable man. He voted against helping vets many times in the last 8 years and with Bush 90% of the time. His campaign has spewed slime and he underestimates the American people.

Posted by: shapiromarilyn | October 27, 2008 2:32 PM

JAXMAX EXPOSED!!!!

as a ludicrous, ALLCAPS-writing dittohead littering the 'drive-by media' comment pages with Limbaugh agitprop.

Thanks for the heads-up, JAXMAX!!! Now I know who the real American is.....

Posted by: jrbxyz | October 27, 2008 2:27 PM

Rpublicans will be signing up for unemployment benefits in droves on November 5th.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 27, 2008 2:27 PM

I think Senator Obama should be President on his looks, speaking skills, and the ability to say nothing in a refreshing way.

This is the Presidency not a run for the high school student council.

Dupes for Obama

Posted by: hoimacoach | October 27, 2008 2:26 PM

Look at his plans. It's all about more corporate-ism and more of the same. Big oil becomes huge nuclear projects. (Wouldn't these become a terrorist target?) Health care just plain more money for big insurance company execs., the economy just keeps on with more trickle down that works best for big business and keeps widening the financial gap. Keep those big companies happy supplying this war. It's third world here we come with McCain.

Posted by: janefree0513 | October 27, 2008 2:25 PM

Socialism? Marxist? ACORN?

The Right is so out of touch with reality that they can't even grasp what's really important to the rest of the country.

That interview with Joe Biden with the Marxist question is a perfect example. Fox Spews pushed that story to the hilt in the end they really demonstrated that the Right looks like a bunch of crazy people.

Start thinking for yourselves before you ruin our country even more

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 27, 2008 2:24 PM

when you go to vote, remember
1. mccain told the boston globe that he does not understand economics..
2. mccain told the wall street journal that he does not understand economics..
3. mccain laughed off his lack of understanding by quipping that he has greenspan's book....
4. greenspan has admitted he had no clue as to what was going wrong and that he was wrong about not needing government oversite..
5. mccain's advisor on economics is phil gram who is the leader in the republican's fight to reduce government oversight..
6. mccain served honorably in vietnam and is a hero for that service, but nobody knows what the effects of 5 solid years of torture are on human thinking..
7. mccain is an admitted gambler and adulterer who was unfaithful to his wife who stuck with him when he was a pow..
8. mccain's current wife is a junkie who used her millions of dollars to set up a nonprofit organization which provided her with narcotics, and cost the medical doctor who was in charge his license to practice medicine forever..
9. mccain announced to the american people on 15oct2008 that the economy was strong, showing that he indeed does not have a clue about the economy..
10. mccain's running mate palin has shown herself to not be a hockey mom by spending ONE SIXTH OF A MILLION DOLLARS ON CLOTHING IN 2 WEEKS..
11. mccain's running mate palin has shown herself to be a junior cheney by wrongfully using her position to channel enormous contracts to sole sources with whom she has business relationships..
12. mccain's running mate palin has shown herself to be a junior cheney by wrongfully interfering with government personel and causing them to be fired illegally..
13. mccain's running mate palin took over as mayor of a small town which had no debt and left it with a debt of $20 million..
14. mccain's running mate palin is governor of a state which has fewer people than norfolk and virginia beach combined (not including suffolk, hampton, newport news, portsmouth and chesapeake)..
15. mccain's running mate palin is governor of a state with no budget problems at all..they have so much oil money that they enjoy no income or sales tax, and can still give each citizen thousands of dollars a year..
16. palin tried to have rape victims pay $1200 to cover the cost of the rape kits..
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PALIN: MEANER THAN CHENEY, STUPIDER THAN BUSH (you betcha)

Posted by: w04equals666 | October 27, 2008 2:24 PM

I think Senator McCain is the candidate of change. Every time his polls numbers go lower, he changes his message.

Posted by: amaikovich | October 27, 2008 2:24 PM

COMRADE OBAMA EXPOSED

Comrade Obama's "spread the wealth" through confiscatory taxation of the rich (Obama previously defined as $42,000) has been EXPOSED through an NPR radio interview in 2000.

Transcripts to be published on Rush Limbaugh website.

COMRADE OBAMA--HE HATES AMERICA--AND THE PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE THROUGH HIM

Posted by: JaxMax | October 27, 2008 2:20 PM

I can't hear that old rat voice anymore (MCCAIN) says "my friends" LIER!!!

OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 2:18 PM

Down in the polls, John McCain's Divide & Flail™ strategy is to call Barack Obama's tax cut for 95% of Americans "socialism."


Well, McCain must have once been a socialist, because it turns out that for years he supported higher taxes on the wealthy to pay for lower taxes on the middle-class.


The YouTube don't lie, McCain:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EyGpOU3qM
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 2:18 PM

McCain clicking heels with his multi-millionaire "my friends" on stage, with his own multi-millions just doesn't inspire confidence. It makes his middle class comments suspect.

He just won't get off that tax cut for the rich. The dribble down theory is just that.

Mitt Romney stashes his cash in off-shore bank accounts so he does not have to pay taxes the middle class pay. Its a scam for the rich and its certainly not inspiring.

Posted by: Mnnngj | October 27, 2008 2:18 PM

I think the main problem the US Tax Payer and voter has with McSame's Tax plans is that it is more of the same Tax plan as Bush had.

And we all know how that panned out.

Plus this GOP's thing of Welfare for the Wealthy.

You know the $6 billion Welfare Check for Halliburton after Cheney had run them into Chapter 11.

Then this $700 billion dollars of welfare checks for Wall Streets pan handling bankers.

You can perhaps see why the US Voters and Tax Payers want to tell McCain and the GOP to: "GET A JOB!"

Posted by: walker1 | October 27, 2008 2:17 PM

No matter how he says it and no matter who shares the stage with him, McCain's prescription for economic recovery is just more of the same old economic notion (laissez faire aka free market) that got us into trouble. Do not be fooled by the wolf dressed up in black suit. It is an empty suit.

I am voting for the future not the past. I am voting for Obama and Biden.

Posted by: pbarnett52 | October 27, 2008 2:13 PM

Trying to fear-n-smear the Populist into submission again Johnnie, pathetic.

It is really a Cold-war, old school, show your own fear philosphy to scare up votes with the ole "evil Liberal" ploy.

Hey I know, let's adopt this ole political marketing ploy on Iraq to this year's election shall we:

"Barack Hussein Obama is an evil Liberal possessing Winning Masses of Democrats (WMDS)"

Sounds like Karl Rove to me.

How do you like me now ?

Posted by: truthhurts | October 27, 2008 2:13 PM

Every time "McCain Hammers Rival" he drives another nail or two in his own electoral coffin. I am beginning to think that McCain is only trying to keep the 30% GOP base who likes smear.
McCain might actually get some where with this if it wasn't for the fact that he lies every time he takes the microphone. He has lied so much about Obama that now people (other than the 30% base) don't beleive what he says about himself.

Posted by: fishingriver | October 27, 2008 2:12 PM

I just watched Obama's speech in Ohio. There is such a difference between him and McCain. He lays out a message of postive actions instead of just saying what is wrong with his opponent. McCain still seems to think that attacking his opponent while continuing the Bush policies is going to change the dynamics of this race. The polls say he is wrong. Wrong on Palin, wrong on Iraq, wrong on the economy, wrong on veterans benefits, wrong on privatizaion of Social Security, wrong on cutting medicare, wrong on health care. Just plain wrong!

Posted by: cdierd1944 | October 27, 2008 2:11 PM

Really? A Republican labeling a Democrat as a "tax and spend liberal"? What a unique concept.

Did McCain need a team of economic advisors to come up with this one? Is McCain even CAPABLE of an original idea? Or are his synapses deteriorating to the point where all he can do is regurgitate the same lame stereotypical labels that the GOP has been using since FDR was President?

Posted by: labman57 | October 27, 2008 2:11 PM

In a twisted sort of way I almost want McCain to win this election because four more years worth of failed Bush/McCain policies would for all intents and purposes be the end of the Republican party as we know it today. They would become the 4th party gadflies that they deserve to be.

The only question is, would this country survive it?

You people out there who live in economic downtrodden states like Ohio, West Virgina and Pa etc, if you are stupid enough to vote for McCain you will deserve every single bit of economic hardship that a McCain presidency will give you.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 2:10 PM

One reason Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Biden, et al. are opposed to off shore drilling is that it is a threat to ethanol production in the nation's corn belt. Big agribusiness companies like Archer Daniels Midland (ADM), Noble, and Cargill are pouring a fortune into the Democratic re-election coffers so they can continue to get massive corn subsidies from the US treasury. General Electric is making the technology and guess what ? They own MSNBC-NBC- the Obama network 24/7 with Chris Matthews, nut case- Keith Olbermann and Andrea Mitchell - we arent sure if she is a woman. They praise Obama and trash
Hillary , McCain and Palin !!

In addition to sharply raising world-wide food prices, this is wreaking havoc on the Ogallala Aquifer in Texas, Nebraska, Kansas, OK, SD, WY, CO, and NM. The environmental consequences of the Ogallala Aquifer running dry is staggering and the huge increase in corn production for ethanol is seriously stressing and depleting the nation's major water supply.

This is similar to how Big Sugar and sugar cane production has threatened the Everglades and South Florida's water supply. If you think running of oil is bad, how about running out of water? See how greed can buy the White House for Obambi ??

Posted by: JUNGLEJIM123 | October 27, 2008 2:10 PM

For a 72 year old candidate to put another down by saying "bla, bla, bla,..." is adolescent. And then there's Palin who digresses from faux hick to valley girl speak to make her put downs ... also adolescent. More inept smug is not what we need.

Posted by: janefree0513 | October 27, 2008 2:10 PM

Obama's notion shouldn't be called redistribution of wealth, rather, it should be called recovery of stolen property. A massive redistribution of the middle class's wealth to the super rich is already in progress, i.e., the $700B bailout. In spite of being near bankruptcy, firms still have billions budgeted for executive remuneration and bonuses ($70B, or one tenth of the total, first increment, bailout). One firm that is receiving $25B, Citigroup, has budgeted $25B for bonuses and salaries (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/oct/17/executivesalaries-banking). The same people whose management has led their firms to the brink of failure will be handsomely rewarded (capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich). Another link to details on the redistribution of the middle class's wealth to the wealthy: http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20081027_338_WASH803771

Posted by: csintala79 | October 27, 2008 2:07 PM

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 27, 2008 2:07 PM

Hey, who caused this crisis in the first place? McCain adviser Carly Fiorina got a 40 million dollar parachute mostly for laying off thousands of people. Most of McCain's campaign staff are former lobbyists for the very companies that caused all this, and all those advisers profited mightily. We live in a country where millions have been laid off and millions more will be. Middle Class people have lost, homes, pensions, health care, retirement funds, the ability to afford to send their children to college/vocational school, and all that happened while rich CEOs got hundreds of millions for laying people off, sending companies overseas, and leading their companies into bankruptcy. Even after the bailout, the UK Guardian says CEOs of bailed out companies will get 70 Billion in bonuses. And all of that came under Bush-Cheney, Mcain Gramm. It is time for someone who really cares about the middle class, and that is Barack Obama.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | October 27, 2008 2:04 PM

AMERICA! VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 2:04 PM

"I have been through tough times like this before and the American people can trust me -- based on my record and results -- to take strong action to end this crisis..."

Guess he's referring, although reluctantly, to his POW days. What will be the "strong action" he takes -- attempting suicide?

Posted by: raycrossley | October 27, 2008 2:02 PM

Democrats right now are preparing laws to remove all tax benefits from 401K's, to be replaced with "guaranteed" benefits from the Government.

Posted by: pgr88 | October 27, 2008 2:00 PM

Look I am white, male and suburban and never saw a real tax break from the Republicans over the last 8 years. They never did away with the Alternative Minimum Tax. They gave an extra percent to the top tax bracket in a tax break. The middle part of the middle class has no reason to believe McCain. The average white male living in the suburbs has seen his standard of living deterriorate rapidly under McCain. A thousand wild horses couldnt get me to vote for that ticket. I am voting for Obama.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | October 27, 2008 1:56 PM

MCCAIN IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH MIDDLE-CLASS AMERICA'S ECONOMIC TROUBLES! McCain in April 08 declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and economic adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, is back with the McCain campaign full time again.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay. McCain doesn't understand our tanking economy because it doesn't affect him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZxIYTEDARU

The $100 Million Man
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.

The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.

The Anheuser-Busch Windfall
While John McCain played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek3jAkx9m10
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 1:56 PM

Blah, blah, blah....No one is listening old man. Go back to Arizona, where even they apparently are poised to give their electoral votes to President-elect Obama.

Blah, blah, blah....

Posted by: pgiaquinto | October 27, 2008 1:55 PM

Basically, McCain's pitch is this: The middle class would be better off rejecting Obama's tax cut and instead keep their taxes the same and preserve the Bush tax cut for those making over $250,000.00 per year, letting the benefit trickle down. Since those making over $250,000.00 only constitute about 3% of the population, I guess McCain hopes another 47% of voters will be as deluded as Joe the plumber and accept this nitwit argument.

Posted by: dcwsano | October 27, 2008 1:55 PM

Can somebody please tell John McCain that Meg Whitman did not start Ebay. She was hired in 3 years after the company was founded and it was already booming. Oh, and the actual guy who started the company is an Obama supporter.

The McCain Campaign is a joke.

Posted by: marSF | October 27, 2008 1:52 PM

"McCain told a crowd of about 100 people..."

100 people? You've got to be kidding me, how embarassing. Nader is even drawing larger crowds than McCain.

Posted by: NMModerate1 | October 27, 2008 1:50 PM

At the time of this financial crisis John McCain has nothing new to offer. He can surround himself with 50 advisers who did not want to do anything different in creating jobs and giving tax relief to the middle class and it would still be four more years of Bush economics. That means few jobs created and tax relief for corporations sending jobs overseas. It would mean no creation of jobs in alternative energy and no infrastructure improvements. These are activities that lead to job creation. Lowering taxes on the wealthiest 2% leads to investment like the mortgages which may not have any long term value but which had hefty profits in the short term. Obama is the only candidate that has his sights set on the long term. His advisers are Volcker and Buffett and they operate with a long term horizon.

That is why I see Obama as the safer candidate and I do not want risk at a time like this.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 27, 2008 1:42 PM

McCain and the Wingnuts are seeing their 90's power grap being yanked away from them because of their own incompetence and they're throwing a tantrum. After controlling the white house for the last eight years and controlling congress for ten of the last twelve years they've proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that conservatism is a failed ideology and now they're panicking.


Here's some straight-talk, my friends:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJThPjvscFs
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 27, 2008 1:38 PM

"dangerous"?

What a dick.

Posted by: zukermand | October 27, 2008 1:30 PM

OBAMA says we can't take 4 more years FAILURE of MCBUSH

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 1:30 PM

McCain vs. Obama: Which Candidate Can You Afford? How Could the Next President Affect Your Financial Plan?

Voyant:

http://www.planwithvoyant.com

I am loving this tool. I created a better plan than my financial planner gave me. I fired him. I’m done with paper financial plans.

Posted by: JimTallby74 | October 27, 2008 1:25 PM

I watched his news conference this morning and what I saw was a very angry man, who at times appeared ready to cry. The conference was clearly thrown together the purpose of which was to "name drop" people to give McCain some credibility. At times, he had a hard time even getting their names and positions right. Show and tell this late in the game only appears desperate to me.

Posted by: rkfdred | October 27, 2008 1:23 PM

When I looked at the list of names on the ballot for a moment my mind went blank. I had never considered voting for McCain. In fact this was the year I would not vote for any Republican. In that moment of hesitancy I thought of George Bush and then I easily moved to the voting process. The era of Republican spin had to end. There can no longer be doubts that this country does not torture. When we say we are going to take care of our veterans that is what we do. The American people have to be confident that the things that we stand for, do not change. The Bush era must end completely and that is why I voted Democratic this year.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 27, 2008 1:09 PM

vote vote vote

OBAMA BIDEN ...08!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 27, 2008 1:09 PM

MEETING WITH MITT EIGHT DAYS OUT?

AND WHERE'S SARACUDA?

COULD MCCAIN PULL A "HAIL MARY REVERSE" SEVEN DAYS OUT?

Watch the news out of Alaska. The major papers up there say Palin's not ready for national office. A preliminary leaked finding on Troopergate or Expenses-Gate could ease the way for a second coming of "Mitt the Economy Fixer."

Think it's too late, too "Maverick-y" for an 11th-hour switcheroo?

Well, something's gotta give...

It may be McCain's only path to victory, short of machinations he'd probably like to avoid.

ARE THE McCAIN-PALIN CROWD AGITATORS THE SAME STORMTROOPERS WHO DO THIS:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 27, 2008 1:01 PM

"Restore jobs?"

By continuing the Bush tax cuts to corporations that send jobs overseas.

By continuing the Bush-McCain economic policies that that actually did redistribute wealth from working people to CEOs and the richest Americans?

By continuing one-sided trade deals that fail to protect labor standards and outsource jobs?

By continuing the anti-labor policies of the past eight years?

Count me out

Posted by: gschwartz1 | October 27, 2008 12:56 PM

McCain is running against Bush AND Palin.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 27, 2008 12:43 PM

This campaign is looking like a bad breakup.

I notice McCain has cut his former soul mate out of the picture.

His new wingman is formerly bitter opponent, Mitt Romney.


Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 27, 2008 12:35 PM

Geezz....with all the voting blocs Obama is losing how come McLame is trailing in all the polls?

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 27, 2008 12:35 PM

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Another shot of fiscal stimulus may be needed now to help the U.S. economy recover from what could be a drawn-out slowdown, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Monday.
"With the economy likely to be weak for several quarters and with some risk of a protracted slowdown, consideration of a fiscal package by the Congress at this juncture seems appropriate," he told legislators on the House Budget Committee.
The Bush administration is "open to ideas ... that would stimulate the economy and help us pull out of this downturn faster," said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.


McCain is like Bush 41 Lite, darn sure that if we double down on the Republican's failed philosophy of the past eight years, we'll somehow avoid ruin.


The Repubs are just scared folk now. Subject to manipulation...

Posted by: robertell | October 27, 2008 12:28 PM

RaZoR777 wrote:

Obama and Biden have lost the Catholic vote.

Umm...not quite. Those Catholics who know the lie about voting against the bills which included the redundant inclusion on infanticide when a law already exists on the books don't buy it.

What does disturb us though is McCain's not renouncing Hagee's endorsement.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 27, 2008 12:25 PM

Is that angry old guy still out there lying up a sh*t-storm?

Posted by: robertell | October 27, 2008 12:20 PM

...pastor...

Which faith supports I N F A N T I C I D E?

Obama and Biden have lost the Catholic

vote .

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VqzMB-gA6Ro

When did two wrongs make a right ?

Posted by: RaZoR777 | October 27, 2008 12:14 PM

These pathetic appearances by McCain are comical to watch. While I understand that he can't come out and say he knows all is lost, he could at least try and be somewhat coherant in the final days of his career. It would be sad if it wasn't so deserved based on his gutter ball campaign.

Posted by: pgiaquinto | October 27, 2008 12:12 PM

Ooo! Now there is an impartial source, Lynette Long! Someone who has already publically stated she has an ax to grind. Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 27, 2008 12:09 PM


Hillary Backers Decry Massive Obama Vote Fraud

Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:02 PM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

With accusations of voter registration fraud swirling as early voting begins in many states, some Hillary Clinton supporters are saying: “I told you so.”

Already in Iowa, the Obama campaign was breaking the rules, busing in supporters from neighboring states to vote illegally in the first contest in the primaries and physically intimidating Hillary supporters, they say.

Obama’s surprisingly strong win in Iowa, which defied all the polls, propelled his upstart candidacy to front-runner status. But Lynette Long, a Hillary supporter from Bethesda, Md., who has a long and respected academic career, believes Obama’s victory in Iowa and in twelve other caucus states was no miracle. “It was fraud,” she told Newsmax.

Posted by: thejaner | October 27, 2008 12:04 PM

...thenotoriousflavio...
___________________________________________
Democrats voting Republican 2008 :

1.) PUMAs for Hillary

2.) Catholics against I N F A N T I C I D E

3.) CODE PINK against Obama's shift right

4.) Ralph Nader supporters

5.) Green Party supporters

6.) KKK Democrats that founded the KKK .

7.) Jews that support Israel

8.) Christians that believe in Christmas

and Easter

9.) Bradley Effected Democrats

10.)Democrats that are CEOs

11.)911 Democrats that want security

12.)Military Democrats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vypwwuQ6YY

^ ^ ^ ^ D I D * I * M E N T I O N ^ ^ ^ ^

Posted by: RaZoR777 | October 27, 2008 12:03 PM

McCain has finally found the correct message - but it is too late. He sacrificed the safety of America to Sarah Palin's cultural values - forgetting the economy - and now he will pay for that indiscretion. ............


http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/27/mccain-has-found-his-voice-but-it-is-too-late/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 27, 2008 12:02 PM

Funny McCain keeps saying he is in touch as he walks past two people who are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, while he himself is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. HE JUST DONT GET IT> WHAT A HORRIBLE CANDIDATE THE GOP HAS OFFERED UP THIS YEAR. Huckabee would of been a much stronger candidate. He is much more in touch than McLame. I supported Huckabee in the primary but I will probably be voting for Obama. McCain makes me sick with all of his super rich friends, what a show of... (I AM OUT OF TOUCH) in these final days. Great Going MCCain.

Posted by: pastor123 | October 27, 2008 12:02 PM

Geez, so where's Carly? She was such a fine example of someone who knows how to create jobs. Oops! Ok, so she didn't create jobs she cut them all the while ruining a great company and making off with a nice, fat severance package (Golden Parachute) when she finally got booted.

Otherwise let's see, we have Mitt. He sure knows about how people in the middle class are hurting. Meg Whitman or I think it is Meg Whitman but that is in doubt from the caption. Anyway, Meg sure did her best to endear herself to eBay sellers over the past several years. Jack Kemp? He's still around? And well, the rest of the economic powerhouse team.

I'll take your seven and raise you Warren Buffet and Paul Volcker.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 27, 2008 11:59 AM

Of course, McCain's fear of one-party control would be a lot more believable if he backed Kerry in 2004.

Posted by: JMAlexandriaVA | October 27, 2008 11:58 AM

Missing persons? Carly Fiorina as an economic advisor after she ruined H-P, stock value tanked and thousands let go. Phil "Stop Whining" Gramm who stated there was no economic problem. Need more.

Palin's feeble attempts to explain away $150,000 wardrobe made worser by a hectoring and babbling "air head" Hasselbeck. Was Piper Palin's hand bag a real Vuitton or a copy? We'll never know, but it indicates a problem. No doubt Nancy "Pooperscooper" will be on "Hardball" this afernoon to spread more of the same.

Posted by: NotBubba | October 27, 2008 11:51 AM

I look forward to the Republicans ceding the presidency when they next control the House and Senate. Lest we end up with a party in charge of both the Legislative and Executive branches of government.

Posted by: ManUnitdFan | October 27, 2008 11:50 AM

Michelle Obama was accused of having a DUI by a mccain surrogate. Is it True? http://www.duihelpguide.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 27, 2008 11:47 AM

....C O M M A N D E R * I N * C H I E F....
___________________________________________
..........J O H N * M c C A I N ...........
___________________________________________
___________________________________________

The dangerous threesome Obama Pelosi Reid

.................... V S
.............. HOT * HOT * HOT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o

M A V E R I C K ... mettle tested

Posted by: RaZoR777 | October 27, 2008 11:40 AM

PALIN IS A CELEBRITY! Bright and shiny just the way Republican men like it.

She was pal'n around with her celebrity buddy Hasselbeck this weekend (clearly, the BRAINS WERE OUT!)

Why didn't Palin run for president if she's so qualified?

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 27, 2008 11:37 AM

"Democrats for McCain Myth"

There is no such thing as a Democrat for McCain unless:

1. You were "one of those" Republicans who followed the call of your right-wing-extremist leaders and changed your party affiliation in the primaries to vote against Obama by voting for Hillary.

2. You're racist (and might not even know it)

3. You're not conscious.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 27, 2008 11:33 AM

The Way That We Should See McCain and Palin From Now On:
Maverick Personality Disorder: A New Diagnosis.
Brilliant, hilarious:
http://tinyurl.com/5ggtte

Posted by: janawalter87 | October 27, 2008 11:33 AM

McCAIN and his team including Mitt Romney ,

who is expecting a new grandchild ,said

that Obama will raise taxes and destroy

the economy . Obama's 2001 Marxist words ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

Posted by: RaZoR777 | October 27, 2008 11:26 AM

I wish Republicans would be at least honest enough to speak the truth about why McCain is losing in the eyes of so many Americans.

John McCain has run the most inefficient, chaotic and inept campaign in modern history. Americans for the past two years have watched this man fall apart on so many levels and have concluded that John McCain is incapable of running this country. It really is a simple as that.

Posted by: nerakami | October 27, 2008 11:19 AM

This nation is on the verge of something historic - the election of a black man as President of the United States. If is fair to say the entire world is watching. It is also fair to say the vast majority is rooting for a Republican defeat. If you don’t believe me you clearly don’t read anything.

How did we get to this place and time? How did a freshman Senator inspire millions of voters to finance his unlikely campaign? Why is he leading in the polls? How did this happen?

Well, I’ll tell you how it happened for me.

I was one of those who had doubts about the Iraq war. I did not believe that Iraq was an imminent threat to the United States. Not that Saddam was a good guy ( he wasn’t) however there are lots of bad guys in the world who are not an imminent threat to us whom we don’t attack. We were already flying over his country everyday. There was a tight embargo. Unless he had nuclear weapons how big a threat could he be?

The Administration then lied to us about Saddam and his weaponry.. Further, it sent out a duped Colin Powell to convince us. Bush knew we would believe Colin. So the United States of America, beacon of liberty, attacked a third world country, destroyed its hapless military, made rubble of its infrastructure and occupied it.

Later the lies came out. There were no dangerous weapons. Just fudged intelligence.

The Dems swept into control of Congress in 2006. Bush’s veto could override a 51-49 majority in the Senate so the war went on. Notwithstanding every indication that the majority of Americans didn’t want this war to continue, it went on anyway with no end date. I watched the war go on. I watched as we tortured prisoners, suspended Habeas Corpus and shredded the Constitution. I watched as Bush politicized the Justice Department and placed incompetent political hacks in high office.


So here we are. Tens of millions of us have made this journey starting a different places for different reasons; a journey which began with a distaste and disgust with Bush to a point where we may take our country back. Tens of millions have worked hard, made whatever donations we could afford and are already voting in many states.

The whole world is rooting for us to succeed. The whole world needs an America they can look up to again.

MAKE SURE YOU VOTE!

:-)


Posted by: toritto | October 27, 2008 11:18 AM

You know, folks, one advantage of the long campaign season is that spewing filth for such extended periods of time gets boring. I could see your Ayers, Wright, and Rezko, and raise you a pair of Liddys, a Vogler, a Muthee, and a Palin, but what would be the relevance of that discussion? I'm bored with the smears. They're pathetic.

I'd much rather compare economic philosophies. McCain's attachment to free-market idealism is admirable in its innocence and childlike naivete, but it has no basis in reality. Unfettered, unregulated capitalism blows up for much the same reasons as communism does: both systems are idealized, and neither one effectively deals with the fact that people cheat at the games they play.

Both American experiments with laissez-faire economics have gone off the same cliff: a positive-feedback loop arising from fraudulent deals, illusory gains, and reckless speculation based in the illusion of easy money. If you don't have a disinterested authority doing the diligence to keep the game honest, people are going to start getting skinned so badly they'll stop trusting the numbers on their balance sheets, as they have now done.

Obama may not have all the answers, but he has demonstrated the capacity to learn and adapt to changing circumstances, while McCain clings (dare I say "bitterly") to his faith in a broken economic philosophy, even at the moment it's blowing up in his face.

Isn't that a more cogent argument than any spewing of bile over allegedly questionable personal associations? If you disagree, I'm sure you can find somebody to argue with you over Liddy's record vs Ayers'.

Posted by: lonquest | October 27, 2008 11:07 AM

Too late, ingrate. The Republicans abandoned their fiscal base in favor of the cultural base - They have gone downhill ever since. ...................

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/26/republicans-intellectual-or-joe-six-pack/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 27, 2008 11:04 AM

"In a hastily-arranged event that was added to his schedule at midnight the night before..."

Bull... I was at the event and was notified yesterday morning that he was going to make a press announcement. It was a great speech and was well received. Mitt got a huge cheer as did Jack Kemp.

Posted by: GaryA1 | October 27, 2008 11:02 AM

Here's everything you need to know about our economy. Wall Street intends to give out $20 billion in bonuses this season.

$20 billion!!!

There's more...

http://nahnopenotquite.com/2008/10/27/wall-street-plans-20-billion-in-bonuses/

Posted by: nahnopenotquite | October 27, 2008 10:55 AM

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