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Obama Bashes Bush in Reno

By Robert Barnes
RENO, Nev. -- President Bush cast his ballot early this week for Republican John McCain, and Barack Obama today treated it more like a gift than a lost vote.

Obama returned to the campaign trail, after a day off to visit his seriously ill grandmother in Hawaii, with a revived effort to tie McCain to the unpopular president and ridiculed comments McCain made that he would be the candidate more likely to change economic policies.

"In what may be the strangest twist of this campaign, which has had a lot of strange twists, John McCain said that I would somehow continue the Bush economic policies - and that he, John McCain, would change them," Obama laughed, as he addressed thousands of supporters at a ball field at the University of Nevada.

Obama launched into a litany of ways McCain has supported Bush, as well as quoting McCain's now familiar comment that he supported the president 90 percent of the time.

"That's right," Obama told the laughing crowd. "He decided to really stick it to George Bush -- 10 percent of the time."

Obama has two events scheduled today in Nevada and will cross McCain's path in New Mexico before heading to Colorado. All three states voted narrowly for Bush in 2004, and the visits continue Obama's trend of strenuously challenging McCain in states that went Republican in 2004.

The campaign is feeling so confident about 2004's Democratic states that he hasn't visited one since Oct. 16.

Obama referenced Bush more than two dozen times in his 30-minute speech, and said it was fortunate for McCain that the president didn't hold a grudge about the Arizona senator's attempt to distance himself.

"Because yesterday, he cast his vote early for -- guess who? -- John McCain," Obama said. "And that's no surprise, because when it comes to the policies that matter for middle class families, there's not an inch of daylight between George Bush and John McCain."

The McCain campaign replied with a line the senator used in the last debate -- and continued efforts to keep away from the president.

"No matter how he spins it, if Barack Obama wanted to run against George W. Bush he should've run against him four years ago, because his opponent is John McCain -- a war hero and bipartisan reformer," said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds.

He added: "Americans would have been better off if Barack Obama hadn't joined with the President to vote for virtually every Bush spending bill, voting for the Bush-Cheney energy bill and doubling down on the Bush administration legacy of out-of-control spending. Obama is just more of the same."

Obama said, in effect, that was not believable."Let's be clear: John McCain attacking George Bush for his out-of-hand economic policy is like Dick Cheney attacking George Bush for his go-it-alone foreign policy."

Obama is ready to associate himself with a former president. Bill Clinton and the Obama campaign announced the two would campaign together on Wednesday in Orlando. Clinton is the last Democratic presidential candidate to have carried the Sunshine State, which is vital to McCain's electoral strategy.

Obama's campaign event this morning was his first since dropping off the trail to attend to his gravely ill grandmother in Hawaii, Madelyn Dunham. The Democrat made an emotional 22-hour visit to see the woman who helped raise him and who he has called the "rock" of his family.

He spoke about her today for the first time, albeit guardedly.

"I just want to personally say how grateful I am," Obama said before he started his speech. "There are so many people who sent out their thoughts and prayers and sent my grandmother flowers and get-well cards. I just want you know it meant the world to her, it means the world to me.

"Thank you, everybody for being so gracious. It was really nice."

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A mindless repuglican propaganda lackey in the basement of Fallwell University just pasted this from the file that rove emailed him and the rest of the 'uglican scum:

"Obama enthusiastically supported the $750 billion-dollar bailout that Bush wanted. In other words, Obama (who supposedly is a friend of the downtrodden and the hardworking taxpayer) likes rewarding corrupt, robber-baron CEOs with your money."






...and in exactly nine days, you sacks 'o crap are gonna eat the evil you've sown for eight years.

Fake Kane, Homeless Brain
Read more of my smartmouth opinions at:

Posted by: FayeKane_HomelessSmartypants | October 26, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Today's NY Times Headline-

Spending Stalls and Businesses Slash U.S. Jobs
As the financial crisis cuts demand for American goods and services, the workers who produce them are losing their jobs by the tens of thousands.


Small Businesses will lay off!

Big Businesses will move jobs overseas!

13% Unemployment in an Obama 1st term...

(only Herbert Hoover raised taxes in a recession...what kind of a warped mind squeezes every last drop of milk from a sick cow?)

Posted by: thecannula | October 26, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like desperation in the posts by the right wing nuts, they are making up their lies, in a desperate bid to get people to be turned off by the Obama campaign. Too bad for those people that Obama has run the most robust and effective campaign in American History. He is not going to take the White House because it was given to him, like GWB did; he is gonna occupy the White House by earning it. Earning it by forming health care, tax, military, diplomatic, energy, and economic policies that millions of REAL Americans have already endorsed with their votes and their cash. McCain should just role over, and concede now, his campaign is dead in the water. Obama is gonna win

Posted by: jmr862003 | October 25, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

I am from Galveston, Texas. We have been devastated by Hurricane Ike - where's the coverage. Where's the help, the ideas and cash for rebuilding. It's nowhere. We on the coast realize that the Federal Government is not in the business of taking care of citizens, they are in the business of collecting taxes and redistributing wealth so that politicians can solidify their power. Don't tax me, except for what is utterly essential - I'll take care of me and my own.

Posted by: daavina | October 25, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

"Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier."
You could have just shortened it to the above.
Let em go...See how much they can make overseas. See how well they are recieved.
Tell them to take all the conservatives with them.
And thanks for the lesson on economics you hack.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 25, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

this link is worth repeating..for repubs and dems.

check it out

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 25, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain got 1,500 to his rally in Albequeri(sp) today and tonight Obama speaks there and they are expecting 30,000. People began lining up at 7 am this morning for tonights rally.
I guess we know which candidate is the one that people want to hear.

Posted by: vwcat | October 25, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

How can McCain run the country if he can't run his own campaign!

McCain/Palin has become PALIN/TheOldGuy

Click here for CNN's PALIN GONE WILD!

McCain Adviser: "She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone. She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else."---SCARY!

Next thing you know, she'll be running around with a "B" carved into her cheek and a black eye.

Save our country!
Vote Obama Nov. 4

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 25, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama and ACORN Donation
Barack Hussein Obama recently made an $800,000 donation to the Marxist community-organizing group ACORN, which has illegally registered at least 300,000 ineligible voters. This has been very well-publicized and can be referenced in any Internet media search. Should we be voting for a candidate who stands idly by while one of his favorite nonprofits commits mass voter fraud? Is this somebody who respects the integrity of the electoral process? And also--Obama claims to be middle-class and to stand for the working man. How many American workers are able to make donations of close to a million dollars at the drop of a hat?
Five Reasons Barack Hussein Obama Cannot Be Trusted On Economy
1: To this day, Obama refuses to condemn or even criticize corrupt Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines, a key supporter of his, whose insane zeal for lowering the credit threshhold of new loan applicants played a pivotal role in collapsing the mortgage system.
2: It is undisputed fact that Obama voted to raise income taxes for all making over $42,000 annually as an Illinois state senator.
3: Senator Obama and key congressional Democratic friends of his such as Reps. Barney Frank and Maxine Waters (D-MA and CA, respectively) were instrumental in pushing for Clinton's Fair Housing Act, which required banks to lower their lending standards in an effort to boost minority homeownership.
4: Taken cumulatively, Obama's promised spending plans would add up to an increase in federal spending of ONE TRILLION DOLLARS. Do you really think that ONLY those making $250,000 or more will be paying for something that massive?
5: Obama enthusiastically supported the $750 billion-dollar bailout that Bush wanted. In other words, Obama (who supposedly is a friend of the downtrodden and the hardworking taxpayer) likes rewarding corrupt, robber-baron CEOs with your money.

Posted by: theurbangrind | October 25, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

How The Obama Tax Plan Really Works:

In a local restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08? tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference–just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

Posted by: theurbangrind | October 25, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

A phd named david kamerschen tells us that we are all wrong about taxes and tax cuts.His little story is amusing but flawed.He says the most wealthy man deserves the largest tax cut and if he doesn't get,all the rest will suffer.
Baloney! The richest man not only shouldn't get any tax cut at all,he should be paying much more than he does now.
First, he doesn't need a tax cut,since he already is a beneficiary of many existing tax "breaks" written into the tax code for him,like the capital gains tax on unearned wealth being lower than income taxes on earned income. As Warren Buffet has said repeatedly, his secretary pays a higher rate than he does.
And the poor can't get a tax cut but they can get free health care, for the working poor,and a cut in payroll taxes,too. Most poor people work,as this PHD well knows.
And then there is the middle class- getting shafted by "trickle-down" which never does, and even if it did,middle class income has been declining for years as jobs are outsourced by those beer loving rich guys.
By the way,rich guys and poor guys don't hang out together or drink the same beer in America or anywhere else.
What we are all waiting for is a "slam-dunk" of the stinking rich,their millions in tax cuts and special favors and current bailouts(wait until we buy all those worthless subprime mortgages from them).And while we do that,we lose our jobs, our health insurance,our sanity,our health, and our lives.

And if McCain thinks this is socialism,buying the banks,wait until all the factories(not many left) close,unemployment goes to 10% or more,than we will see socialism,or riots.
And who bought the banks
George W. Bush! Now we can all laugh.

Posted by: lenteach | October 25, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

I believe John McCain made it very clear in his last debate with Obama that he supports the wealthy (and not the middle class).

McCain still uses the tired phrase 'Joe the plumber' and it's not fooling anyone.

If you are in the lower to middle class working people of this country and you believe that John McCain is for you, then you are a fool.

George Bush did it to half the country for 8 years. Don't be fooled, again, by another Republican pretending to be from the middle 'working' class.

John Sidney McCain III has lived a very good life. He has never been part of the working class.

Posted by: ssanford00 | October 25, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Well, if we are supposed to subsidize the rich people by refraining from taxing them, refraining from asking them to pay their fair share for the benefits they receive from America, well, let them go to Europe.
There is a certain level of wealth where the individuals concerned no longer consider themselves to be American citizens. The are "international" citizens with homes and bank accounts all over the world. They have no original reason for any patriotic loyalty to America. They do not need to give anything to this country anymore. And, they don't.
Their entire lives are given over to making money and they will do it wherever they can and quaint feelings of patriotism are absurd to them. Foolish. Nonsensical.
They believe the rest of us to be but rubes who may, or may not, serve their own purposes.
Let them go. This is America and we will start over and make our own new companies.

Posted by: cms1 | October 25, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

"if Barack Obama wanted to run against George W. Bush he should've run against him four years ago"

McCain could have ran against George W Bush four years. No, McCain decided to campaign, support and enable the George W Bush re-election four years ago. Bush and McCain are the same.

Posted by: RMB2 | October 25, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

The scary thing about McCain is that at the beginning of September, the Senator declared that the fundementals of our economy were still strong. Shortly thereafter the "fundamentals" tanked.

Just this week he tried to detach himself from perhaps the worst president our country has had in 100 years by proclaiming that he did not agree with the policies of the Republican administration when he in fact voted with that administration most of the time.

The only thing that has changed since his "fundamentals" statement is the date. Our economy is still bad and is getting worse for a lot of "Joes" like me out there.

Who does he think he is fooling?

Unfortunately, McCain did not know what he was talking about concernng our economy a few short weeks ago. Why, given his recent statement and his voting record should any of us believe that he fundamentally understands what the "Joes" of the country are dealing with now or that he and the Republican party will do anything differently than what they have done for the past 8 years?

A tiger cannot change his stripes and neither can a Republican administration.

Our country does not need more rhetoric we need Jobs baby Jobs baby Jobs and we need them now.

Posted by: GEThere | October 25, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm not surprised that Grampy McCain is getting his butt kicked in this election because I'm still trying to figure out what the McCain campaign message is, other than?:
"Don't vote for the scary black guy"

Posted by: DrainYou | October 25, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Trickle down economics has been exposed for the bs that it has always been.

The rich have been gaming the system for years. Lobbyists used to bribe politicians in dark alleys 130 years ago. Now they do it over expensive steak and wine dinners. That's not progress, "my friends."

When lobbyists join the GOP club, extol the virtue of unregulated "free markets" and then peddle and use their influence so that their friends can game the system, lie, cheat, and essentially steal billions via the old GOP scandal/bailout playbook (see S&L, Enron, Subprime), then that's not progress "my friends."

Charles Keating was flying McCain, his family, and the McCain family nanny to the Caymans for junkets. Talk about off-shore tax havens.

If you think the rich have been paying their fair share of taxes, then you really should understand how the Hensley-Marley-Lansky people made their money in the first place.

Dirty, rotten, crooked people.

So, you cherries, keep talking econ 101 theory- people in the real world know they've been screwd for too long by the rich, well-connected greedy jerks that run the Republican party. The same people who fought against civil rights. And fought for big tobacco. Helped kill their own people. Animals.

Posted by: jrob822 | October 25, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

He shot Bush in Reno just to watch him die!

Posted by: el_barto | October 25, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The finger pointing begins........


10 more days......

Posted by: toritto | October 25, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

The contrasts between the functioning of the two campaigns is amazing. Old school McCain is completely out of step with the political realities of our time. Back then, there could be a different message at every campaign stop and no one would do the synthesizing--McCain style of hip shooting worked. New school Obama has brought a freshness, energy and an integrated positive message to the campaign trail. Through the internet and 24/7 media coverage, critics comb every word and statement for inconsistencies and gaffes which should serve to sharpen the candidate's views. The fear mongering of Karl Rove style politics is heading to the incinerator. The American voter is awakening after being lulled to sleep for the past two Presidential elections.

Posted by: louismraskin | October 25, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Bar Stool Economics 203
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes,
it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. -- Nothing in income tax, but would pay payroll tax and sales tax at a huge percentage of their income.
The fifth would pay $20 - Non tax cheat
The sixth would pay $25 - Makes double the fifth but own a house so can deduct the interest that and ends up paying about the same as the fifth.
The seventh would pay $30. - Makes Triple the fifth, but owns a business and claims everything he owns (house, car, tools, etc) as a business expense so pays only $10 more.
The eighth would pay $0. - Makes all their money in the market so doesn't pay any income tax. Does pay capital gains at a 15% rate while the fifth man pays a higer rate.
The ninth would pay $18. - Literally $18
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $0.--Because his money is in the cayman islands thanks to the work of the eighth man.

Posted by: JM123456 | October 25, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I support Obama, and I hope undecideds are not reading these comments, because most of the comments on this post are so strident, they'd drive the independents to the other ticket.

Somebody once proposed the saying, "Come, let us reason together" as a motto for LBJ's style when trying to fashion a legislative majority. Sadly, that seems quaint now.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 25, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse


The wassup guys from the Budweiser ads offer their take on the Bush/McCain years and the 2008 election:

Posted by: DrainYou | October 25, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Tucker Bounds we respect your opinion but look who is running McCain's campaign Schmit and Rove who sold two Bush terms to the American Voters. So this race is still between Obama/Biden vs McCain/Bush/Schmidt/Rove.

Posted by: cooday | October 25, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"Our economy is structurally sound for the long term"
George W Bush - Feb 11, 2008

"The American people can remain confident in the soundness and the resilience of our financial system"
Henry Paulson - Sept 15, 2008

"The economy is fundamentally sound"
Herbert Hoover - October, 1931

"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"
John McCain - Sept 15, 2008

McCain does not have the ability to fix this economic crisis. After declaring the fundamentals of the economy strong, he created a political circus in Washington by mucking up bailout negotiations; a deplorable campaign stunt, considering he and his political cronies helped cause the current meltdown.

It was McCain and his economic adviser Phil Gramm who pushed for the deregulation that helped lead to the banking crisis, and it was McCain's crony Rick Davis who had deep lobbyist ties to Freddie Mac. Don't let others be fooled by McCain's economic grandstanding because the reality is his policies and principles will only exacerbate our financial hardships.

McCain is being deceitful with his sudden populist message and support for regulation; his economic policies still favor our nation's wealthy elite.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 25, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama is confident and has stuck to a consistently strong, pro-American message the entire campaign.

McCain has flip-flopped on EVERY ISSUE. NO ONE KNOWS this John McCain. That's why prominent Republicans are flocking to Obama.

WE NEED A STEADY HAND at the helm. That's OBAMA '08

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 25, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

This man Obama - who is he - he is the man who can take a punch and give one back - all while remaining calm and deliberate. What is the source of his calm demeanor. ..............

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 25, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Bar Stool Economics 102
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes,
it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. -- drank nothing.
The fifth would pay $1 -- drank tap water.
The sixth would pay $3. -- drank giner-ale
The seventh would pay $7. -- drank bud
The eighth would pay $12. -- drank heineken
The ninth would pay $18. -- drank gin and tonic
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.-- drank top shelf XO and wrote it off as a business expense

the rest is bull

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 25, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Says Obama: "McCain attacking George Bush for his out-of-hand economic policy is like Dick Cheney attacking George Bush for his go-it-alone foreign policy."

McCain's assertions about the difference between Bush's economic policy and his own might gain traction if he specified concretely how his own economic policy has in fact differed and would differ further in bringing change, given a McCain-Palin victory.

Problem is, there's little distinction to be drawn. In the absence of clear and palpable difference, we're left with the image of McCain hugging and clinging to Bush.

Posted by: FirstMouse1 | October 25, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse



The Publication: "National Review" is as credible as say....Ashley Todd the auto-mugger.

McNuts have to stick together. (ewww!)

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 25, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

In a twisted sort of way I almost want McCain to win this election because four more years worth of failed Bush/McCain policies would for all intents and purposes be the end of the Republican party as we know it today. They would become the 4th party gadflies that they deserve to be.

The only question is, would this country survive it?

You people out there who live in economic downtrodden states like Ohio, West Virgina and Pa etc, if you are stupid enough to vote for McCain you will deserve every single bit of economic hardship that a McCain presidency will give you.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 25, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Bar Stool Economics 101
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes,
it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed
quite happy with the arrangement, until one day,
the owner threw them a curve.
'Since you are all such good customers, he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.
Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
(So he reduced their bill in proportion to what they currently paid-)
'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man.
He pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!'

'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man.
'I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!'
'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'
'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia
For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

Posted by: thecannula | October 25, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse


Stanley (tool) Works- a Choice Between Jobs and Tax Bill- Raise Business Taxes=Layoffs!

Voting with their feet: when companies 'reincorporate abroad,' are they being unpatriotic? Or responsible?

Publication: National Review
Publication Date: 23-FEB-04 Format: Online

IMAGINE you are the CEO of a major multinational firm. Your chief financial officer comes to you and says if you move your legal home from the United States to Bermuda the company will have a 20 percent increase in net profits. With the increased profits, the company will be able to expand production, hire more workers, more R&D, and pay stockholders a higher dividend.

However, your VP for government relations tells you that if the company changes its legal home you, as the CEO, will be accused of being unpatriotic by some members of Congress and certain presidential candidates. Even worse, these same politicians will threaten to bar your company from obtaining U.S. government contracts, and demand that the IRS and government regulatory agencies single out your company for special scrutiny.

As the CEO of the company, you know you have a fiduciary responsibility to your stockholders to maximize their economic return by all legal and ethical means. You also know that the proposal to move your company is entirely legal and would be considered good management practice. You are also aware that many of the politicians who are likely to attack you are the same people who attacked managers in other industries, like mutual funds, for not being good custodians of investors' money. Despite what thoughtful people will clearly recognize as hypocrisy, those political attack dogs can cause considerable damage to you and your company as they have to other firms engaged in similar totally legal and appropriate behavior.

The Stanley Works (tools) company, for example, had planned in 2002 to reincorporate in Bermuda, in the hope of lowering its tax bill. The move was ditched, however, after political pressure was brought to bear on the company. Subsequently, Stanley was forced to lay off about 1,000 of its U.S. staff.

Posted by: thecannula | October 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Deep Blue" here. (They took my screen name away for writing the truth about about the media is harping on Obama's Chicago network but not doing any due diligence on McCain's dirty, filthy, rotten, corrupt Hensley-Marley-Lansky network. The network McCain used, after he ditched his first wife, to launch his political career....)

Anyhow, where's JakeD? That's what I wanna know. Jake, come out and take your whuppin' like a man! :-)

Racism ain't gonna save you now- and I'll tell you why!

Posted by: jrob822 | October 25, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

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