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Obama Comments on ACORN Controversy

By Shailagh Murray
TOLEDO, Ohio -- Sen. Barack Obama distanced himself from the voter registration group ACORN but also downplayed the fraud controversy that has embroiled the organization in recent days.

GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin told radio host Rush Limbaugh this afternoon that Obama has a responsibility to "rein in" ACORN, a pro-Obama community organizing group that signs up low-income people to vote. ACORN offices are under scrutiny in numerous states for allegedly having registered thousands of people under fake names, including those of sports stars and other celebrities, along with Disney characters.

Taking a break from debate preparations, Obama told reporters during a brief press conference this afternoon, "My relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward. It's probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the U.S. Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the "motor voter" law, to make sure that people could go to DMVs and driver's license facilities to get registered. It wasn't being implemented. That was my relationship, and is my relationship to ACORN."  

He said he had further interactions with the group through its Chicago office, in his capacity as a local elected official. "But they are not advising our campaign," Obama asserted. "We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don't need ACORN's help."

He also sought to add some context to ACORN's travails, now a staple of conservative cable and radio shows, as Republicans point to the scandal as a way of casting doubt on the Obama campaign's organizing practices.

"Having run a voter registration drive, I know how problems arise," Obama said, referring to work he did years ago in Illinois. "This is typically a situation where ACORN probably paid people to get registrations and these folks, not wanting to actually register people because that's actually hard work, just went into a phone book or made up names and submitted false registrations to get paid. So there's been fraud perpetrated probably on ACORN if they paid these individuals and they actually didn't do registrations."

But Obama continued, "This isn't a situation where there's actually people who are going to try to vote because these are phony names. It's doubtful Tony Romo is gonna show up in Ohio to vote," he said, referring to the Dallas Cowboys quarterback, whose name surfaced on Nevada ACORN forms.

"So this is another one of these distractions that gets stirred up in the course of a campaign," Obama concluded. "But what I want to make sure of is that this is not used as an excuse for the kind of voter suppression strategies and tactics that we've seen in the past. Let's just make sure everybody is voting, everybody's registered. Let's make sure that everybody's doing it in a lawful way."

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The Bush administration should all have been impeached for treason to the county.

McCain is pro-Bush ideas of grandeur.

Look at the situation of our country and beware of the clowns that are offering themselves to be leaders. McCane is the same as Bush: Distract the people's intelligence with smoke and lies, and raising "suspicions" on others so people don't see the fault of the McCain's campaign while Bush exits without being noticed.

Posted by: ElMugroso | October 18, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | October 17, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

okey so yall say all the bad things about obama okey so y do we want antoher bush in the world im from texas and we hate bush. we want someone new in office hes made our lives bad already i think obamas a great person and u should give him a chance. Mccain has nothing more to offer. so i think by yall saying all the negitive against obama u should look at mccain to hes as much as a bad person as obama and i dont think obama is trying to get to office because of anything but trying to bring us back to where we need to be. y dont we stop fighting over who needs to win and look at the points they make. we dont live in another world we are citizens and we all need to get along. any one but bush needs to be the white house. as a young person i agree with the schooling what is it fair my parents make lots of money but i cant go to school because i feel my parents should have to pay full price for school also y do others get into school and lie (most being republicans) i trust that obama will make this a better world.

Posted by: pardeeamber | October 16, 2008 3:55 AM | Report abuse

Rule 1: blame it on the workers, depite a policy that each one is supposed to be verified for accuracy by three different controls. This way no ACORN management is held accountable.
Rule 2: Set up over 1000 splinter groups to fund the fraudulent GOTV, this way OBama and Dems have plausable deniablility of where donations come from.
Rule 3: cry foul to the compliant press.

Presto problem solved

Posted by: johs | October 15, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has Hank Williams preform at his rally, Foul language and vulgar lyrics makes people boo and leave. watch clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPOpP89oMik

Watch the debate tonight, then participate in a national poll, on the issues, at
http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 15, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

See the winner of best Sarah Palin Impersonator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMebGbcC2Sg

Want to see what Happens when MTV hosts the debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=752cvy86qH8

Posted by: pastor123 | October 15, 2008 4:52 AM | Report abuse

dottydo

hannilimaughcoursi talking points don't work. Come up with something new you big dummy.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 15, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

KD11,
"....Obama and his paternal 1st cousin Odinga, wanted to bring the whole of Kenya under Sharia law. Obama campaigned for Odinga in August of 2006,just before he filed with the US Federal Elections Commission for his presidential candidacy...."

Thank you I just spent a lot of time reading.
Apparently,
Obama and his paternal 1st cousin Odinga, wanted to bring the whole of Kenya under Sharia law. Obama campaigned for Odinga in August of 2006,just before he filed with the US Federal Elections Commission for his presidential candidacy.


Yeow!!!! It just gets wilder all the time.
Why hasn't anyone exposed the birth certificate from Hawaii thing?

Do you think these sites are telling lies that DOJ already investigated?

Posted by: dottydo | October 15, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

voter fraud and voter registration fraud are wildly different,

ACORN is required by law to submit the forms exactly as they are filled out,

the scale of voter registration this year is so immense that OF COURSE tens of thousands of bogus registrations will be filled out,

Mickey Mouse is not going to show up and vote,

it looks very much like the Republicans are trying to pre-emptively delegitimize Obama's victory.

Posted by: KarateMom | October 15, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

LOL! So many of the posts in this thread are so retarded, especially considering McCain himself is associated with ACORN.

"'What makes america special is what's In this room tonight" -John McCain at Febuary 2006 ACORN rally where he was the keynote speaker.

Posted by: plaza04433 | October 14, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Why don't they ask (or why haven't they asked) Barrack HUSSEIN Obama what the "Bush doctine" is or similar loaded questions?
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Because he has explained this to us numerous times and has shown us and the press that he has a clear understanding of what it is, how it affected and still affects us, and why we should not have it. I believe it was part of his speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004.

Palin had never spoken about it before, and as a citizen I wanted to know her take on it. I was as surprised as you to find out she had no idea what it was...therefore no opinion on it.

It is peope like you who in 2002 had no idea where Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran were on a map, therefore making it easy to convince you that a war in Iraq was the same as a war in Afghanistan. You are an uneducated fool...the sole reason tyrants like Bush got into power in the first place, then were re-elected.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 14, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Halifax,

Just like with any business, people in ACORN lied to register more voters, and get more money for registering voters. Those people were fired, and as they find out about more they are firing more, and "cleaning house," as any business would.

They are also revamping their procedures so that employees can't do this again.

Kind of like if you owned a bar, and your manager was skimming $ from the till. You'd fire your manager, all the employees involved with scamming with that manager, then set up different rues to make sure it didn't happen again.

You wouldn't close the bar.

And, FYI, registration fraud is wholly different than voter fraud. Registration fraud gets a few greedy employees some extra cash. Voter fraud steals the election from Gore, gives it to Bush, and nearly ruins the US and the idea of Democracy along with it.

Get a clue.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 14, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

jasfcar, Hussein is from the Semitic word hasan, meaning "good" or "handsome."

Not a bad name to have if you ask me.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 14, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Remember folks, his name is:

Barrack HUSSEIN (as in Saddam Hussein) Obama.

Obama for prez?

All you'll have left is CHANGE ! ! !

Also, he campaigned for the dem nomination promising to go "beyond the beltway" in his own words. Then, as his VP choice, he picks your bread and butter Washington insider Joe Biden whose home district (Delaware) is also well within the "beltway."

Why don't they ask (or why haven't they asked) Barrack HUSSEIN Obama what the "Bush doctine" is or similar loaded questions?

Posted by: jasfcar | October 14, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

LOL, how classic Obama.

"But they are not advising our campaign," Obama asserted. "We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don't need ACORN's help."

So just what did ACORN do with that 800K he gave them?

Posted by: HalifaxCB | October 14, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

DemocracyRules wrote: "I also think that the paycheck that goes to CEOs is absurd. Just like I think a basketball player should not be getting a $150 million dollar contract. We need to put regulations in place that prevent abuse and fraud."
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Methinks this is socialist talk.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 14, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

I love people who say Obama is a racist. He is half white, and half black. He was raised by his white mother and white grandparents.

Just because your party nominated a loser who picked an even bigger loser to run with doesn't mean you should start using weak "guilt by association" tactics to expain why Obama would be worse than McCain.

McCain is a loser who crashed two planes, destroyed one that killed 133 US soldiers and nearly sunk an aircraft carrier. Back then, and nowadays, if you crashed ONE plane in the military they put you behind a desk. It was only because McCain's Daddy and Granddaddy were Admirals that McCain got to fly a second, then a third time. WHAT A LOSER! 894 out of 899.

And you call this loser a hero.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 14, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama downplays all his dirty little dealings. You stupid people who think this idiot is a messiah of change will eat crow very soon. He is weak, wishy-washy and a racist. I will be here everyday to remind you of your blind, stupidity everyday. We will not remain the United States with this black theologian. NEVER will he have my support and he will take you stupid as#ses to the bank. LOL!

Posted by: dragonfly777 | October 14, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Dear KD11,

I know these fact check sites have some important info on them that explains things out, but videos have more impact.

Please Google: Obama, and Odinga (Odinga is a Islamic Extremist that Obama has helped campaign to win an election over the democratic controled Kenya government.)

Also, Google: Obama, Farrahkan, Messiah (You will find how much Farrahkan lends his support to Obama. They live only a few houses apart from each other, as well as Ayers, and Rezko. All in the same block about 8 house apart in all.)

These video say way more than any fact check can explain.

Posted by: alohais | October 14, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Dear Marrobcastle!

I do agree with everything that you say about the Repubs, but that is just half the story.

The Dems of the past, JFK, FDR, were very honorable. They stood for conservatism, they stood up for freedom around the world(JFK: We will bear any burden to assure freedom around the world), and they themselves were willing sacrifice their lives for We the People (JFK & FDR both died in office). But now we have corruption, scandals, Frank Dodd Chairman of the National Banking Committee #1 recipient of contribution money from Fannie & Freddie, Obama #2, Bill Clinton (Who I voted for twice) dishonoring the White House. I can go on, and on!

Whoever gets in the White House, with the way the world is now, will surely wonder why he ran for President.

Posted by: alohais | October 14, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA vs McCAIN - DEMOCRACY vs NEOCONSERVATISM

This election is more than between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin, blue states against red states, or left against right. This is an election that will determine whether we can save our democracy or whether we will continue to be a democracy in name only; whether we will be governed by the party still committed to the Constitution and the principles of democracy or by a party that has been invaded and occupied by neoconservatives, a party that has trashed our Constitution and made a mockery of the words of Christ.

The Republican Party of the past was an honorable Party. The Republicon Party of the present is anything but honorable and it has shown itself incapable of governing or ruling. There is no depth to which it will not sink in its effort to stay in power, to stay the course. It is no wonder that the world is holding its breath for fear that by fair means or foul the neocons might be able to continue to use the resources of the United States in their effort to control the world in every aspect of its being.

Posted by: marrobcastle | October 14, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Some of you may be wondering why Obama is given a "pass" all of the time. In reality he's not given a pass it's just that the arguments being made have no substance.

Do some research! (Honest research) There are many opinions and outright lies out there. Here are some sites that are trying to be unbiased.

http://www.snopes.com
http://www.factcheck.org
http://www.politifact.com


Posted by: KD11 | October 14, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain and G gordan liddy are buds. Just stop republiconvicts.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 14, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Dear Jocro!

I really appreciate your ability to think, and I find your rebuttal very interesting and well thought out, I really do!

Most people do not find the time to think about thing, and thus fall for anything that is presented to them, especially from the media.

Saying all this, I do agree that the American People can, and will do what it takes to assure that the truth, and the American Way is preserved, only if they are presented with all the information that is available, critical to both sides of the aisle.

The Media has become so bias that it has borderlined on the government controled media that Hilter, as well as many Communistic countries implement.

My friend that lives in China didn't know about the new about Tibet until I informed him of it, can you believe that!

The minds of men are easily deceived, but I think if given all the fact, can make a great decision.

Thanks for giving me a very intellectually stimulating rebuttal!


Posted by: alohais | October 14, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

If McCain does bring up William Ayers, now a College Professor, Obama has my permission to smear McCain all over the room for being so stupid as to try to connect Senator Obama to an event that happened in the 60's during the Vietnam War. Obama and all the people that know Mr. Ayers and work with him definitely know that this is the most lame and desperate republican stunt among so many.

Posted by: fedup11 | October 14, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

My Dear alohais,
I assume your post means that you yourself think change is to be feared. If this is so, then you are bound to be crushed by the realities of life. In this country when change comes, as it does and will, your choices are few. If you object to the change you make use of the instruments of democracy to reverse it. If not you adapt. If we are to evolve, we will adapt to changes. (Hopefully you do not object to the word "evolve.")
The real question is: do you trust the citizens of this country, acting as free agents in charge of their own destiny, to make viable decisions about change? If you do not then I think you must not trust democracy, because that is the essence of democracy.
By the way, Herr Hitler did not welcome change after he had established his dominance in Germany, did he, my dear alohais?

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

"Change should not be feared!"
Didn't Adolph Hitler say that?!

Posted by: alohais | October 14, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse

My Dear TyroneJonessr,
No prayer in schools; no requirement to pledge allegiance to the flag, etc...
As far as I'm aware none of your much regretted changes in this country's culture are in any way contrary to our Constitution or the vision of our "founding fathers." It may be regrettable to you that these changes are taking place, as they certainly are, but they are really peripheral to the institutions and hopes that the founders had in mind.
A democracy is not a static thing. It grows and changes with the people who live under its laws. Laws which they were expected by the founders to be in charge of. The only institutions that bar changes in thought and custom are cults. Hopefully we in this country do not constitute a cult, at least in far as we are citizens. Certainly some, if not most, of our major religions seem to think that there can be no change in the way we view culture. Thankfully, the founders of this country did not want religion to determine the structure or function of government. They were very certain about that.
When we as a people decide that this or that change in the way we organize our society is necessary, we do not want any religion to tell us we cannot.
Life is change. The founding of this country was one of the most radical changes anyone on earth at the time had ever seen. Change should not be feared. It is our only salvation.

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Every time the election's come around voter fraud pop's up. And who's behind it? the democrats. The Motor Voter law has made it impossible, to have fair elections. If anybody can just show up and vote, than their is fraud. Not just dead people, cat's and dog's vote for democrats. Non-Citizen voters in California, stole the 47th Congressional District in 1996, from Bob Dornan to Loretta Sanchez's. The dem's say it's O. K. cause it's for CHANGE. Look at the people that got caught, any republican's?

Posted by: xthat | October 14, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

ACORN is just a part of Obamas problems.

Here's more:
Rezko: Obama's neighbor, He paid almost twice the market value to Obama of a piece of property that Obama sold to him.
Rev Wright: Obama was in his church for 20 years, Obamas wife has very strong connections, and relations to the Rev., Wright believes that the White Man created the AIDS virus to destroy the Black Man.
William Ayers: Unrepentant Terrorist, recently gave a speech down in Venezuala praising Chavez for his education program. Ayers helped launched Obamas polical career at his home.
Farrahkan: Leader of the Nation of Islam, touts Obama as the Messiah. Lives a few houses from Obama, infact, Ayers, Rezko, and Farrahkan all live within 8 house of each other.
Odinga: Obama lends his name and support to this radical Islamic leader who is trying to take over the democratic government of Kenya. Odinga want to establish Sharia Law in that area (Just Google Obama and Odinga, and you can see a CBS clip of what I'm talking about)

Obama was never vetted. By right he should be unelectable!

Posted by: alohais | October 14, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA HAS BEEN UNDERGOING
A RADICAL CHANGE SPIRITUALLY, SOCIALLY, POLITICALLY AND MOST OF ALL, ECONOMICALLY FOR THE LONGEST OF TIME.

NO PRAYER IN SCHOOLS; NO REQUIREMENT TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG; OPPOSITION TO "IN GOD WE TRUST" ON OUR CURRENCY; SAME _SEX MARRIAGES WHERE 1st GRADERS GET TO ATTEND AS A FIELD TRIP/EDUCATIONAL EVENT, ETC.

IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE THIS COUNTRY CEASES TO EXIST UNDER THE CONSTITUTION THAT WAS SETFORTH BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS.

I personally think that ACORN's mission is honorable. However, ACORN must make a concerted effort to weed-out the individuals who are using the ACORN stage/platforms to play out illegal acts and criminal intentions.

Posted by: TyroneJonessr | October 14, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA HAS BEEN UNDERGOING
A RADICAL CHANGE SPIRITUALLY, SOCIALLY, POLITICALLY AND MOST OF ALL, ECONOMICALLY FOR THE LONGEST OF TIME.

NO PRAYER IN SCHOOLS; NO REQUIREMENT TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG; OPPOSITION TO "IN GOD WE TRUST" ON OUR CURRENCY; SAME _SEX MARRIAGES WHERE 1st GRADERS GET TO ATTEND AS A FIELD TRIP/EDUCATIONAL EVENT, ETC.

IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE THIS COUNTRY CEASES TO EXIST UNDER THE CONSTITUTION THAT WAS SETFORTH BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS.

I personally think that ACORN's mission is honorable. However, must make a concerted effort to weed-out the individuals who are using their stage to play out their illegal acts and criminal intentions.

Posted by: TyroneJonessr | October 14, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey terrago,
Cool. Did you think up that political ploy all by yourself?
Please don't smoke too much of that stuff on election day. You might forget and vote for Obama!

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Oooh! Oooh!

I just got telephone polled - told her I was going to vote for Obama.

But secretly, I'm voting for McCain.

Hee, hee! Love it!

Posted by: terrago | October 14, 2008 7:12 PM

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Thank God! Now that you got that out of the way. Beat it! Obama's for people that know when their getting screwed.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 14, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

My dearest DemocracyRules,
If this country had known who George Bush was in 2000 would they still have voted for him? We'll never know. Any more than we can know whether Germans would have voted for Hitler. (By the way, Hitler didn't really make a secret of who he was, now did he?) If you truly think that Barack Obama is a Stalinist and a Nazi ( a somewhat contorted combination, I have to say) then you certainly can't vote for him. In fact I would call you a person of no integrity and little wisdom if you did.
In a democracy like ours the will of the majority is considered the ultimate wisdom and that appears to be judging Barack Obama in a very different way from the way you do.
I should repeat to you what John McCain recently said to a supporter whose views were similar to yours. You don't have to fear Barack Obama as President. He is a good man.
Occasionally Republicans can revert to the identity that was once theirs, in the days of Lincoln, Roosevelt and even Eisenhower.

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain is the one with ties to ACORN. He has used their services, there are pictures of him at ACORN events, and his involvement with them is a matter of public record. Once again this is an example of the pot calling the kettle black, or of a sociopaths using their favorite tactic, blaming others for doing that which they are guilty of themselves. ACORN's troubles with the few voter registrations were falsified are miniscule compared to the voter fraud perpetrated against the entire nation in the state or Florida in the year 2000, and then again in the state of Ohio in the year 2004. And who was behind these voting debacles? YOu got it - that Grand Old Party of underhanded chronies who will do anything to get elected.

Posted by: HedgeBaby | October 14, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Sigh...and the POOR judgements continue as these are the Days of our Lives.

What a crock!

He's a crook!

Voter fraud- the worst kind.

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 14, 2008 6:50 PM

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Oh yeah, Palin just got busted but that's all fine and good right. If that was Obama you'd be screaming from the rooftops. You just keep on drinking that neo-con Kool-Aid and watch your country disappear right before your eyes. Here's one for the chosen one.

THE McCain Chosen One: a finger wagging, tongue-babbling, witchcraft fighting, TrooperGate dodging, Nowhere flip flopping, animal slaughtering, book banning, Putin pontificating, Drill-Baby-Drill cheerleading, earmark requesting, media manipulating, rape victim charging, choice killing, lipstick wearing pitbull who aspires to be Commander in Chief on the basis of her Alaskan National Guard "leadership" and clear, unfettered view of the soul of Putin in the Russian countryside to fix all the problems in Washington.


http://theshrillhockeymom.com

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 14, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Oooh! Oooh!

I just got telephone polled - told her I was going to vote for Obama.

But secretly, I'm voting for McCain.

Hee, hee! Love it!

Posted by: terrago | October 14, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

My dearest DemocracyRules,
You know, I have to say that I think you have reached some strange conclusions about Obama. You say you voted for Clinton and Gore. I note you didn't mention Kerry. I'm assuming, and correct me if I'm wrong here, you did vote for Bush in 2004. Now that is interesting. It may explain why you are so opposed to Obama, in spite of the fact that both Clinton and Gore have endorsed him. Maybe there is some brand loyalty for George Bush still closeted in your heart. That really would go a long way toward explaining the seeming contradiction in your political views.
By the way you seem to imply, again correct me if I'm wrong, that you have immigrated to the US from a socialist country. Might I ask which one? Then again maybe this is irrelevant, since it would appear, if Obama is a socialist in your eyes, that almost any country in the world, from Switzerland to Bahrain, is a socialist country.
By the way, I could have guessed that you are a supporter of President Bush, because you say you have never been wrong.
It must be so wonderful never to have been wrong.

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

These claims have been argued about in Wikipedia since mid-July:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Barack_Obama/Archive_28#Mention_of_ACORN

Looks to me as if some people were trying to lay the groundwork for an 'October Surprise'.

Posted by: TomJx | October 14, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Dear Jorco,
You still don't get it, If Germans knew who Hitler was, or Russians knew who Stalin was before they were elected to the highest office, neither of them would of come to power. Redistribution of wealth and using children as a propaganda tool for political reasons is what Obama is doing, is what Hitler and Stalin did.

“THE INHERENT VICE OF CAPITALISM IS THE UNEQUAL SHARING OF BLESSING; THE INHERENT VIRTUE OF SOCIALISM IS THE EQUAL SHARING OF MISERIES.” - Winston Churchill.

I don't know who he is, but I do know who are his friends and spiritual advisers. "If you don't know much about a person, judge him by his friends". Almost every culture in human race has a saying similar to that, because its true. He was a part of corrupt political Chicago machine, his association with ACORN is troublesome, etc, etc, etc. You don't have a good argument against everything I have been saying, you will not hear me, and maybe neither will America, but when Obama wins, America will be lost.

Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 14, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I posted twice.

Posted by: indianadave | October 14, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me, that in this day and age of computers, it should be damn near impossible for someone's vote to get counted more than once. Even if he has registered 75 times.
Why can't America just get it right, so we don't have to deal with stupid s***.
Again, tax payers money going down the toilet due to politics as usual.
Man this is a waste, for the times we live in, change isn't even close to what we need.

Posted by: indianadave | October 14, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

All McCain cares about is Headlines. Anything that makes Obama look bad is mission accomplished. Maybe John McCain should talk about Bush and his rigged voting machines that cost the American people two elections. Now that's what I call voter fraud. Hs was busted cold.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | October 14, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me, that in this day and age of computers, it should be damn near impossible for someone's vote to get counted more than once. Even if he has registered 75 times.
Why can't America just get it right, so we don't have to deal with stupid s***.
Again, tax payers money going down the toilet due to politics as usual.
Man this is a waste, for the times we live in, change isn't even close to what we need.

Posted by: indianadave | October 14, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Each County Clerk's office has checks and balances to catch phony registration forms.
The McCain camp is going to sling has much mud as they can, to see what will stick before Nov. 4.

Pepsi Co. is laying off 3500 workers today!
GM is closing another plant!
Eight is enough!

Posted by: letsjustvote | October 14, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Sigh...and the POOR judgements continue as these are the Days of our Lives.

What a crock!

He's a crook!

Voter fraud- the worst kind.

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 14, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

My dearest DemocracyRules,
"The arguments I hear from you have nothing to do with fact, but rather your loose associations to Hitler, Stalin, socialism and Nazis. I dare you to make one fact-based link to your claims. Otherwise, your ranting nonsense."

My, my, my. Now I'm not sure I get the meaning here. Are you saying that people posting comments here have loose associations to Hitler, Stalin, socialism and Nazis? Now that would be something to get upset about. By the way do you have any fact-based links for these claims?
Just asking.

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Dear Jorco,
Sorry about the caps. For the record, I did not call him a muslim, I don't know what he is. He said he is a christian, who am I to question it. I do wander why he changed his name. At least Mohhamed Ali did explained it. Martin Luther King once said "Don't judge a man by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character". This has always been my motto.

I don't really care about him not producing his birth certificate, or a lot of other things like his records from college, etc. That does not bother me.

For the record, I did not call him a Stalinist, I drew a parallel between what Obama stands for and what Socialism stood for. I can not help if the rhetoric is the same. I also object to our kids being used for the propaganda purposes, glorifying a politician, again that is what both Stalin and Hitler did. That is a fact.

You said you have been wrong in the past. I have not been, I voted for Bill Clinton, under whom we had tremendous prosperity, I voted for Al Gore/Joe Lieberman, and I truly believe the country would of been in much better shape, if they were in power. I also think that the paycheck that goes to CEOs is absurd. Just like I think a basketball player should not be getting a $150 million dollar contract. We need to put regulations in place that prevent abuse and fraud. For me this election is about experience, character and judgement. Obama has proven to me to be short in this regard. I know that you hate toward Bush has blinded you, but when on Nov 4th we elect Obama, we will only magnify the error. My vote might not count in this election, but at least I can tell my children many years from now "I tried to prevent America from making this mistake, because I did not want you to grow up in the country that is now so similar to my birthplace". I hope I am so wrong, for the sake of my children.

Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 14, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Our country is crumbling, and this nonsense is all the McCain/Palin camp can come up with? What about the issues? McCain has run a cowardly, low-class, despicable campaign, and he and his terrorist-VP pick are going to pay for it by LOSING. Long live America! OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!

Posted by: Russell4America | October 14, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Hurray for Acorn. They are a legitimate organization with no agenda other than registering new voters. It's a shame that the Republican smear campaign is doing everything in their power to discredit a fine organization. However, if Republicans don't do something soon a great portion of their political power will be blowing down the drain. So hurry up and cry fire where there isn't any and see where it gets you. After the election the Republican crooks and criminals will have nowhere to hide from the law. The past eight years will be laid open like a book. I feel sorry for you and your radical agenda, but it has no place in America. Long live the constitution and freedom loving Americans.And,You'll not get Ohio this time. We replaced your Republican Governor with a Democrat. Acorn will help us put the nails down tight in your political coffin. Enjoy!!!!!!!!

Posted by: IRemember | October 14, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Actually zig1, that 1000 dollars Obama is presenting will be an anual thing while he is office, not just a one time tickler, like we got in the stimulus package. There is nothing to be frustrated about. It is up to you( the individual) to arrive at an honest decision who you want leading us in this great depression

Posted by: WIKKIDINSANE | October 14, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

My dearest DemocracyRules,
"Arrogance diminishes wisdom." This is such a wise quote. Can we build a counter quote for the obverse? How about: "Ignorance enhances wisdom?" No that doesn't sound quite right. How about: "The less you know, the more you can say?"
I was in an English Literature class once when one of my classmates explained to me about his not having read the assigned book "It takes away all you objectivity, if you actually read the text." Perhaps that's the sort of wisdom you mean. Is that the case?

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I think the Bush Justice Dept. should investigate the Bush Justice Dept.

Posted by: humanbeng | October 14, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

DemocracyRules,

Apparently, you confuse perceived "intellectual superiority" with stating the facts. Many of the rebuttals to your comments are people eloquently explaining the difference between voter fraud and registration fraud.

The arguments I hear from you have nothing to do with fact, but rather your loose associations to Hitler, Stalin, socialism and Nazis. I dare you to make one fact-based link to your claims. Otherwise, your ranting nonsense.

Posted by: Menace2Vacuity | October 14, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

My dearest DemocracyRules,
Now, now, now. Mustn't get your undies in a twist. It will be all over in a few weeks. You just have to hang in there and try to keep the blood pressure down. It wouldn't do to have you shuffle off the mortal coil just because Obama is elected. You should go and have some chicken soup. It will do wonders for your disposition. But, you know, I have the feeling you really do enjoy bursting at the seems over these perceived wrongs from that arch-Stalinist Barack Obama. However, I do have to admit to you the oh so guilty pleasure I get from helping you to burst out in this way. Is this so wrong?

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Well my friends, Palin and Limbaugh are merely following suit with the GOP. This is there way to promote democracy. the Ohio GOP in particular tried and tried to block early voting, cutting off taxpaying citizens from being able to vote in a more flexible time frame. It is in their interest to see less voters registered for two reasons.

1. new voters tend to vote against the incumbent party.

2. if more people start voting this could mean a landslide victory in the popular and electoral vote.

If Tony Romo is registered, a fraudalent registration won't be able to vote, this is the bottom line. Palin should rein in her 'stay the course' rhetoric and try talking about the issues.

Posted by: TomJeferson | October 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Here's a partial list of the things Obama is lying or misleading about in the quotes above:

1. He changed his "fight the smears" website when it came out that he'd served as an ACORN organizer:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008132.html

Yes, that's right: within hours of it being learned that he did more for ACORN than he'd previously let on, he changed his supposed "anti-smears" website.

2. This year, the BHO campaign paid ACORN to do GOTV for them:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008146.html

3. The idea that some of those fake registrations won't be voting is beyond ludicrous. He's from Chicago, he should know about things like that. Apparently BHO thinks his supporters are incredibly dumb.

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | October 14, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

I am frustrated when posts claim that Obama will give tax breaks to the middle class and pass the tax burden on to the wealthy and corporate America. I've heard him over and over say he's going to give everyone a thousand dollars. In the overall scheme of things, do you realize how little a thousand dollars is and how far it will go? Think about it folks. He is relying on your short term views. In the long run, who do you think is going to pay those higher taxes on corporate America? We are! We are through increased prices at the store. Are you really so gullible as to not see this?

Posted by: zig1 | October 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

My dearest DemocracyRules,
I'm sorry if I appeared to be calling you names. It was not my intention. I did obliquely refer to your extremism at one point. Perhaps you do not agree you are an extremist. But you're posting in all caps is just so redolent of the extreme waffling I've seen on the net. And your wild swinging at the straw men set up by those fairly extreme voices you hear every day on your radio, that does give me pause.
But perhaps I'm wrong and it isn't really extremist to call Obama a Stalinist, a terrorist, and a Muslim. I, like you, have been so wrong in the past. You know, thinking there was no reason to take wealth away from the middle class and give it to the rich? I mean, look at all the wealth that has created for those hard working CEOs and Wall Street tycoons. We were so looking forward to it's being trickled down on us from above. Sadly the prospects of that is now all gone. Pity.
Maybe Obama was to blame for that - Stalinist that he is?

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

PRO-OBAMA SUPPORTERS (ON THIS SITE) HAVE CLAIMED INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORITY. TO ME THEY PROVED THAT ARROGANCE DIMINISHES WIZDOM.

Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 14, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

The Wingnuts are seeing their 90's power grap being yanked away from them because of their own incompetence and they're throwing a tantrum. After controlling the white house for the last eight years and controlling congress for ten of the last twelve years they've proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that conservatism is a failed ideology and now they're panicking.


Here's some straight-talk, my friends:
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJThPjvscFs
.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

I can see how the voters the GOP is targeting would worry that fictional characters might vote; they are not overly burdened with intelligence.

Meanwhile, every time Obama responds eloquently and presidentially to petty, irrelevant, and false rumors, he manages to make McCain look more and more like a lurching, lying twit. McCain & Palin sling feces and only get themselves dirty, while Obama comes out looking like a peach.

The only question now might be whether or not McCain & Palin will break into the triple digits in the electoral count.

Posted by: ncooty | October 14, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

You can only vote once..whether Micky Mouse or Tony Romo...People, calm down. It's funny that everyone just assumes the poor and underprivileged are Democrats and that every single person signed up by ACORN is going to vote Republican. SCARY. Good for Obama that he doesn't continually address everyting "minnie me" claims. The proverbial, "throwing and seeing what sticks" has never been so rampant as it is with the McCaN'T/Playful party. I would have voted for John McCain a year ago, but now...No chance. Thank goodness I've gotten to "know" Obama objectively and NOT what is being crammed down my throat by the Repubs. When my 70 year old conservative mother says McCain is running a "vicious" campaign...there's a huge problem.

Posted by: surrogate4 | October 14, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Just stop commenting if you are going to push the same WRONG argument that voter registration = voter fraud. I will explain the process to you guys and please do your research before commenting and jumping on bandwagons of radio talk show host.
This is how it works.
Field workers get incentives for registering "x" amount of voters. No matter how many voters are registered, and yes even ones who are dead ( fake registrations), acorn have to tag these registrations that are suspicious before submitting them. I know at most if not all polling places it is required to have two forms of ids before you can vote. This is not voter fraud. So listen, no matter how many voters are registered it is going to equal to one vote. Here's an example.....

7000000 fake registered voters(like mickey mouse) = 1 voter with actual identification who will probably not vote anyway

Posted by: WIKKIDINSANE | October 14, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Dear Jorco,
I see the truth hurts, HE DID NOT WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM, WHEN ALL THIS HATE WAS PREACHED. INSTEAD OF CALLING ME NAMES, PLEASE EXPAIN HIS ACTIONS. IT IS EITHER A BAD JUDGEMENT ON HIS PART, OR SOMETHING MUCH WORSE.

HE IS A SOCIALIST, AND MOST PEOPLE WHO LIVED UNDER SOCIALISM WOULD TELL YOU THAT. A MAJORITY OF IMMIGRANTS WHO GREW UP UNDER SOCIALISM ARE VOTING FOR MCCAIN. THEY KNOW WHAT RHETORIC CAN DO, THEY KNOW THAT BOTH COMMUNISTS IN RUSSIA AND NAZI IN GERMANY CAME TO POWER UNDER PLATFORM OF CHANGE DURING THE TIME OF ECONOMIC UPHEAVAL. SO BEFORE YOU CALL ME NAMES, LOOK AT HISTORY, USE YOUR BRAIN, AND STOP REPEATING LIKE A PARROT. McCAIN WAS NOT MY FIRST CHOICE IN THIS ELECTION, BUT GIVEN THE CHOICE I WILL VOTE FOR HIM.

Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 14, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

McCain is such a liar saying "Obama will raise your taxes". Obama has been crystal clear on this issue. Obama will shift the tax breaks to the working and middle class and remove the huge tax breaks from the greedy hands of the wealthy. McCain has to lie to try and sucker people into voting for him, just like Bush did.

Posted by: Hillary08 | October 14, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm impressed with DemocracyRules' last post. Not because I agree with it, but because s/he didn't have to once again quote another person's thoughts. It almost reached the level of being an original thought, although still seemed heavily tinged with the same ol' B.S. McCain/Palin have been shoveling for so many weeks. Rejoice in that you are at the cusp of transcending inane partisan views - we'll help you get there.

Posted by: Menace2Vacuity | October 14, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

My dearest DemocracyRules,
Hmmm. Listened to so much hate? I have a vague feeling, only a suspicion mind you, that there is the tiniest bit of hate buried in your posts. Am I right, or am I just reading to much into your wise, if sadly ungrammatical, words? And I am trying really hard to be sorry that we have lost a voter like you. It's just not working for me though. Sorry.

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Democracy Rules,

So you voted Democratic, and now WOOSH! You are voting for McCain. Sounds like the 'leader' of PUMA - who claimed to be a Democrat - was found to have contributed to McCain in 2000. You are full of it.

Posted by: redbrick1 | October 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

The only people who listen to Hannity and Limbaugh are ignorant, close-minded sheep who need a leader to feed them hateful material. They LIE ALL THE TIME. Want facts? Falin honestly believes that dinosaurs and humans co-existed. She tried to get a librarian fired because the librarian objected to banning books. She believes in only teaching abstinence for sex-ed. She thinks being close to Russia constitutes foreign policy experience. SHE CAN'T HANDLE KATIE COURIC. If she can't handle Couric, how the heck is she going to handle a national crisis? And McSame? Besides voting with Bush over 90% of the time? Cheated on his disfigured wife, then married the current one (who made him sign a prenup) a month after leaving his first wife. Oh, and he was caught in one of the nation's worst scandals, Keating 5. Not to mention as a pilot he was shot down three times (great job McSame). And the crowds at those rallies? Don't see much of a difference between them and Nazi rallies in the 30's. You right-wingers are dirty, filthy scum. REAL change is needed, and is needed by a strong leader like Obama.

Posted by: AlexTheJohnson | October 14, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

this just in:

MCCAIN VOWS TO QUIT DISTRACTING FROM
THE ECONOMY

(except if he appears to be losing)

Posted by: jbzorg | October 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

As for the so-called "redistibution of wealth," this has indeed been going on for years due to the Republican policies. Under Bush (and to continue under McCain if he is elected) money has been drained from the poor and middle class and given to the very wealthy.

Posted by: phil55 | October 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS A PEACE OF THE PEICE YOU PRINTED.

Shouldn't his comments be enough. Is the Washingtonpost now taking McCains and the Rebushagain parties side?


'... "My relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward. It's probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the U.S. Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the "motor voter" law, to make sure that people could go to DMVs and driver's license facilities to get registered. It wasn't being implemented. That was my relationship, and is my relationship to ACORN......" '

I'll take him at his word. He knows what he's doing are not doing. Some times you press, in your suppossed 'objectional journalism' are so suggestive. It's almost as if you guys are campaigning for John McCain. You guys privledge his lies and the RNC's lies, by actually giving it a voice by printing this CRAP. There's no other word for it.

YOUR PEICE CONTINUES.....

"So this is another one of these distractions that gets stirred up in the course of a campaign," Obama concluded. "But what I want to make sure of is that this is not used as an excuse for the kind of voter suppression strategies and tactics that we've seen in the past. Let's just make sure everybody is voting, everybody's registered. Let's make sure that everybody's doing it in a lawful way."....'

TOO MANY WACKY FOOLISH AND SILLY DESTRACTIONS.......

and news people who follow them and privilege them with a voice.


Posted by: need4trth | October 14, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS A PEACE OF THE PEICE YOU PRINTED.

Shouldn't his comments be enough. Is the Washingtonpost now taking McCains and the Rebushagain parties side?


'... "My relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward. It's probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the U.S. Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the "motor voter" law, to make sure that people could go to DMVs and driver's license facilities to get registered. It wasn't being implemented. That was my relationship, and is my relationship to ACORN......" '

I'll take him at his word. He knows what he's doing are not doing. Some times you press, in your suppossed 'objectional journalism' are so suggestive. It's almost as if you guys are campaigning for John McCain. You guys privledge his lies and the RNC's lies, by actually giving it a voice by printing this CRAP. There's no other word for it.

YOUR PEICE CONTINUES.....

"So this is another one of these distractions that gets stirred up in the course of a campaign," Obama concluded. "But what I want to make sure of is that this is not used as an excuse for the kind of voter suppression strategies and tactics that we've seen in the past. Let's just make sure everybody is voting, everybody's registered. Let's make sure that everybody's doing it in a lawful way."....'

TOO MANY WACKY FOOLISH AND SILLY DESTRACTIONS.......

and news people who follow them and privilege them with a voice.


Posted by: need4trth | October 14, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS A PEACE OF THE PEICE YOU PRINTED.

Shouldn't his comments be enough. Is the Washingtonpost now taking McCains and the Rebushagain parties side?


'... "My relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward. It's probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the U.S. Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the "motor voter" law, to make sure that people could go to DMVs and driver's license facilities to get registered. It wasn't being implemented. That was my relationship, and is my relationship to ACORN......" '

I'll take him at his word. He knows what he's doing are not doing. Some times you press, in your suppossed 'objectional journalism' are so suggestive. It's almost as if you guys are campaigning for John McCain. You guys privledge his lies and the RNC's lies, by actually giving it a voice by printing this CRAP. There's no other word for it.

YOUR PEICE CONTINUES.....

"So this is another one of these distractions that gets stirred up in the course of a campaign," Obama concluded. "But what I want to make sure of is that this is not used as an excuse for the kind of voter suppression strategies and tactics that we've seen in the past. Let's just make sure everybody is voting, everybody's registered. Let's make sure that everybody's doing it in a lawful way."....'

TOO MANY WACKY FOOLISH AND SILLY DESTRACTIONS.......

and news people who follow them and privilege them with a voice.


Posted by: need4trth | October 14, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

The most laughable part about the right-wing's far-reaching allegations are the fact that McSame was busted for Keating 5, and Palin busted for Troopergate by legal councils. Yet these don't count, do they? Oh, but have extremely loose assocations and you're suddenly guilty. Sorry, don't think so. Not to mention McSame was also associated with ACORN. And how laughable is it to have Republicans screaming foul regarding voting fraud? Does anyone remember Florida in 2000? Ohio in 2004? So ridiculous. And remember, right-wing scum: OUR COUNTRY IS ALREADY PARTLY SOCIALIST. It's the only way capitalism can fully operate. So enough with that fear-mongering, appeal-to-the-ignorant argument. It only works on your kind, not independents.

Posted by: AlexTheJohnson | October 14, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

I have to warn the McCain/Palin campaign, if you keep twisting in the wind like this you are going to bring on dizziness and start making absurd allegations like: "OBAMA IS A STALINIST" You really don't want to be associated with extremists like DemocracyRules. Remember, guilt by association?

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Dear Jerco,
I know it is very difficult for people like you to understand that you lost a voter like me, who voted for Bill Clinton and Al Gore. I would of gladly gave my vote to Hilary/Biden ticket, but I will NEVER, NEVER give my vote to a man that has listen to so much hate for so long AND DID NOT OJBECT TO IT, DID NOT QUESTION IT, BUT EMBRACED IT.Maybe the reason he lives on the same street as Ayer and Farakkan is because he found his comfort zone.

MY VOTE MIGHT NOT COUNT, BUT I WILL NOT SELL SHORT THE IDEAS ON WHICH THIS GREAT COUNTRY HAS BEEN BUILD UPON. If you understand that, no explanation is necessary, if you don't no explanation is possible.


Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

ACORN is just a part of Obamas problems.

Here's more:
Rezko: Obama's neighbor, He paid almost twice the market value to Obama of a piece of property that Obama sold to him.
Rev Wright: Obama was in his church for 20 years, Obamas wife has very strong connections, and relations to the Rev., Wright believes that the White Man created the AIDS virus to destroy the Black Man.
William Ayers: Unrepentant Terrorist, recently gave a speech down in Venezuala praising Chavez for his education program. Ayers helped launched Obamas polical career at his home.
Farrahkan: Leader of the Nation of Islam, touts Obama as the Messiah. Lives a few houses from Obama, infact, Ayers, Rezko, and Farrahkan all live within 8 house of each other.
Odinga: Obama lends his name and support to this radical Islamic leader who is trying to take over the democratic government of Kenya. Odinga want to establish Sharia Law in that area (Just Google Obama and Odinga, and you can see a CBS clip of what I'm talking about)

Obama was never vetted. By right he should be unelectable!

Posted by: alohais | October 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a criminal and is a citizen of Kenya, thus uneliglbe to be president. Wake up peeps! Listen to Sean hannity and Rush Limbagh and join the STOP OBAMA EXPRESS

Posted by: SavedGirl | October 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Geez, hearing Obama speak on his involvement with ACORN makes all the rightie hyperbole and McCain/Palin camp vitrol all the more laughable.

What a desperate group - next they'll be blaming Obama because it rained here today.

Only 22 more days and ms palin can belly crawl back to the north woods in disgrace.

Posted by: notfooledbydistractions | October 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

And if we're going to talk about associations, since you right-wing scum seem love the adage "Guilt By Association", why won't you answer McSame/Falin's MANY allegations? http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8992

Posted by: AlexTheJohnson | October 14, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

No, no, no, my dear DemocracyRules. You have no idea who Obama is. Isn't that what the party line is now? "Who is Barack Obama?"

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, why do right-wingers live in fear of change? No matter what it is, if it involves change, right-wing kooks flap their arms and cry about how the world's going to end. Relax. Obama has been vetted for two years now. You're all reaching with ACORN, Ayres, and whatever else you want to pull out and pray that people will be afraid of Obama. Truth is, majority of Americans like the man. So the more you flood the comment boards with negativity, the more we loathe you and like him more. And we're ready to have him as our President. Sorry if you don't like it. Change is a good thing. Accept it.

Posted by: AlexTheJohnson | October 14, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

"It is easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven."

Jesus Christ our Lord.


You can take that to the bank, rich folks.

Posted by: michaelfairbanks | October 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama never mentions important details or facts thats why we dont know anything about him. THATS ALSO WHY HE IS DANGEROUS....

Posted by: gwiener

Pssst! Rumor has it, but ... he's also black! Be very, VERRRRRRY afraid!

Posted by: SenorPlaid | October 14, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Dear Jerco,
YES I DO BELIEVE OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST (or something else). HE BELIEVES IN REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH. WHEN I SEE CHILDREN CHANTING OBAMA’S SONG, ‘YES WE CAN’, IT REMIND ME OF A PIONEER MOVEMENT IN THE SOVIET UNIION AND HITLER YOUTH GROUPS. I DO GIVE HIM CREDIT. HE HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB INDOCTRINATING THIS GREAT NATION. WHEN YOUR VOTE DOES NOT COUNT (BECAUSE OF THE FRAUD IMPOSED ON THIS COUNTRY BY ACORN) THEN I DO EQUATE THAT TO STALINISM, SOCIALISM AND ALL OTHER HORRIFIC 'ISMS' OF THE 20th CENTURY. THERE WILL BE VERY FEW WINNERS IN THIS PROCESS.

“THE INHERENT VICE OF CAPITALISM IS THE UNEQUAL SHARING OF BLESSING; THE INHERENT VIRTUE OF SOCIALISM IS THE EQUAL SHARING OF MISERIES.” - Winston Churchill.

Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Was ACORN a leftist group when McCain attended one of their functions in 2006?

If you aren't afraid of facts, research the Thursday, February 23, 2006 rally in Miami, Florida sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN which featured leaders from a diverse array of sectors in support of comprehensive immigration reform.

Or is it only an evil group when it is tied to a Democrat?

Posted by: abejorros | October 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you bitters in the comments really gotta get your head out the sand. Maybe think for yourself rather than being a mimic of Rush Limbaugh.

Lots of accusations, not a drop of substance.

But yet you'll proudly support the supposed "mavericks", both of whom now have actual formal ethical violations under their belts! And I love how Palin has no moralistic quarrels when commenting on being found guilty of ethical violations, where she said she was glad the report found not ethical violations, lol. You bitters I'm sure eat the right up. Hurray for alternate realities!

Posted by: Timofmars | October 14, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

It's looking AGAIN like the media is going to give BO a pass on yet ANOTHER scandal that should bring this thug DOWN.
What is he "the Teflon Candidate?"
The arm of ACORN that is registering illegal voters is the part he was lawyer for. He was a TRAINER for,
Was a community agitator for-
Soliciting felons, illegals, dead people, MICKEY MOUSE !

Redistribution of wealth (Socialism, voter fraud, terrorists, hate mongering pastors, Rezko, Wright, Ayres)

Wake up and VOTE !
McCain-Palin 2008

Posted by: CoolPillow | October 14, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

This is a wet noodle campaign by McCain. Throw a lot of noodles against the wall and see what sticks.

And I don't even see McCain supporters as true supporters, they're Obama opponents.

It's also apparent that this isn't the campaign McCain wanted to run...for God's sake, he was getting booed when he claimed Obama shouldn't be feared as POTUS and booed when McCain said he was a decent familiy man.

The political right in this country is in a blind rage right now....so profound, they're not exactly sure what they're in a rage about.

That Barack could be this proficient as a candidate(how'd he get to this point, one man asked McCain in WI) and this far ahead three weeks out, or that Mccain could be so inept as a candidate, and not willing to go all Ayers, Rezko, Wright, ACORN, for th full 90 minutes of each debate.

Here's a little straight talk my friends: President Barack H. Obama

Posted by: mathas | October 14, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

DemocracyRules quotes Joseph Stalin. Interesting. Does that mean he is a Stalinist?
But his comment does suggest that Obama will be counting the votes on election day, doesn't it? I thought that guy who owns Diebold counted the votes. Has something changed?

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I don't know where gtcwpost is getting his facts. Obama was never the executive director of ACORN. I've never heard about this "lobbying" private institutions on the behalf of ACORN for subprime loans. Doesn't make sense. The supposed issue here is about fraudulent voter registrations, which are simply not of any scale that they make any difference in our country. Sure, if a paid ACORN staffer was making false registrations, it's up to them to discipline. Sounds like more made up facts to confuse people. Desperation tactics. There is no -=there=- there.

Posted by: ninjagin | October 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Why are the Republicans so concerned about voter fraud? How many actual cases of voter fraud does anyone have any evidence of? Zero.

Yet Republicans tell college students their parents won't be able to claim them as dependents if they register to vote in the place where they go to school.

Yet Republicans use foreclosure lists to try to purge all the people losing their homes from voter registration rolls.

Yet Republicans try to intimidate groups like ACORN to inhibit their voter registration efforts and undermine their reputation by publicizing problems that ACORN itself had already reported and corrected.

Why do Republicans want to keep us from voting?

Posted by: DoTheMath | October 14, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

So, there's suspicion of voting fraud going on? Well now that's strange. Who would ever think that after all the charges of voting fraud going on in Ohio and Florida in the last two elections that there would be more of it this time. You'd have thought that they had learned their lesson.
Oh wait. That was fraud happening during the actual election when actual voting was being suppressed and votes were disappearing. Is that what's going on here? Must be. We know that Rush Limbaugh couldn't possibly be distorting the truth here. We all know he never does that. He is such a sober and thoughtful gentleman.

Posted by: jocro | October 14, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"THE PEOPLE WHO CAST THE VOTES DECIDE NOTHING. THE PEOPLE WHO COUNT THE VOTES DECIDE EVERYTHING" - Joseph Stalin

OBAMA = ACORN = VOTER FRAUD

Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 14, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA!!!


McCain just blew it (big surprise) with his recent ACORN line of attack...


Miami, Florida – February 20, 2006 ― Leaders from a diverse array of sectors will hold a rally in Miami on Thursday, February 23, 2006, in support of comprehensive immigration reform in an effort to keep immigration reform at the forefront of the public debate. Leaders from both political parties, immigrant communities, labor, business, and religious organizations will gather to call on Washington to enact workable reform.
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The rally will feature Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the headline speaker along with elected officials, immigrants and key local and national leaders. Sen. McCain is one of the chief sponsors of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act; bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform legislation introduced last Congress and scheduled for consideration by the Senate in the coming weeks. A similar rally with Sen. McCain is planned for New York City on February 27 [...]
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The rally in Miami is being sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN, Catholic Legal Services - Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia Vota en Acción, Service Employees International Union, and UNITE HERE.
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http://www.mdc.edu/Home/Press/rally.htm
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That was a great event, and I'm glad McCain headlined it. But it does make it a bit more difficult for his campaign to press this line of attack, doesn't it? They even have a picture of McCain attending the event:
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Acorn_pushes_back_hugs_McCain.html?showall
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The McCain campaign is one of a kind. Every time it settles on a line of attack, it always undermines it days later. It's almost like McCain hired the Three Stooges to run his campaign strategy or something.
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 14, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama never mentions important details or facts thats why we dont know anything about him. THATS ALSO WHY HE IS DANGEROUS....

Posted by: gwiener | October 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

So typical. Does he ever once say what ACORN is doing is wrong? NO. ACORN itself is being duped by THE PEOPLE IT HIRED TO SOLICIT VOTER REGISTRATIONS. Obama is a lawyer. He knows that an employee is the agent of the employer, i.e. the employees ARE ACORN. Why can't he simply state that what ACORN has done is wrong and it must stop AND that he has demanded that ACORN return the $800,000 he gave the group for their efforts in submitting false voter registrations. WHY is it that ACORN is not at fault. WHY is it that the burden of ensuring legitimate voter registration falls on the county board of elections when the person submitting the registration form as a citizen of this country has the burden in the first instance to comply with the law? ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT. NEVER Bong Hit OBAMA. Grow the F UP DUDE. QUIT THE RACE TODAY.

Posted by: GoalDigger1 | October 14, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama is very good at distancing himself once he used that person or organization. After listening to anti-white, anti-american, anti-semitic rhetoric of his spiritual adviser for 20+ years, he distanced himself, because he understood that Rev. Write was becoming a political liability. He is doing it now with ACORN. This strategy has clearly helped his meteoric rise to power, despite his inexperience, socialistic agenda and his pal's hate. The liberal press has not question Obama, the man. For me it is 20 years too late to be fooled by his rhetoric.

Obama = ACORN = VOTER FRAUD
Obama =Rev. WRITE = Hate for .....
Obama = AYER = Terrorist .....

McCain might not win in this election (thought I still think he has a chance), but in that case, NEITHER WILL AMERICA.

Posted by: DemocracyRules | October 14, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

It looks like this 800K that cs67klein is talking about was a payment to an ACORN partner organization called CSI -- Citizen Services, Inc. CSI is a non-profit-making (NOT the same as non-profit) canvassing and elections services company that works for a lot of left leaning causes, and it did some canvassing and get-out-the-vote work for the Obama campaign in 5 Ohio cities over a week. I guess this came to light when the Obama campaign revised its description of what they paid CSI to do, which doesn't appear to be unusual. I don't see anything especially weird about the expense, or the revision of the description. I guess this is just another right-wing attempt to invent some kind of fake issue or distracting side conversation. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: ninjagin | October 14, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse


1. As a publicly funded non-profit, ACORN has an ethical and statutory responsibility to ensure they are not acting fraudulently.

2. Obama as the executive director for ACORN

3. Obama acted as an agent of ACORN to lobby private institutions to offer sub-prime loans

4. Obama continues to support public funding for ACORN

And then, attempts to minimize their fraudulent activities and dis-associates his relationship with ACORN.

Posted by: gtcwpost | October 14, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

The point is that now the whole election is suspect due to (particularly in Ohio) lack of co-operation in finding fraudulant registrations in a timely manner. Thousands of votes that will be counted may be bogus. These are the heights to which Obama wishes to elevate politics? It makes me sick.

Posted by: mblackfordster | October 14, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

(Partial) List of People Obama Has Thrown Under the Bus:

ACORN
Reverend Jeremiah Wright
His own grandmother
William Ayers
Jim Johnson
Eric Holder
Samantha Power
Austan Goolsbee
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton
Father Michael Pfleger
Joe Biden (at least as to AIG)
Louis Farrakhan
Wesley Clark
Tony Rezko
Trinity United Church
Half-brothers and sisters
His own "hair trigger" campaign ...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Obama_distances_himself_from_hairtrigger_campaign_criticism_.html

Courtesy of "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality" by Jerome R. Corsi

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Yea,

The Obama supporters, blind sheep, are acting very disruptive to any suggestion that Obama is unqualified, which a blind man can see!

Or that McCain is by far the most qualified for any reason, again, which a blind man can see.

Just for proof, here is a link to an article of how the Obama camp conducts business!

Think Hitler Youth or Stalin's Political Officers...

I tell ya, if this no account hood-wink gets in office say good by to freedom!

http://www.lufkindailynews.com/search/content/news/stories/2008/10/07/secret_service.html

Posted by: AverageAmerican1 | October 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Exactly, ca67klein. Add ACORN to the List of People Obama Has Thrown Under the Bus.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama, once again very presidential in tamping down Republican hysteria

Posted by: pax_vobiscum2002 | October 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama makes a great point. These fake voters will never show up to vote. That is not going to happen. It is Acorn who is the victim of the crime. Acorn needs to file criminal charges on these employees. I think that is what happened in New Mexico in 2006.

Posted by: bradcpa | October 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

How come he didn't mention the $800,000 paid to ACORN in April.

Somethings fishy here.

Posted by: ca67klein | October 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes! Obama is correct (again). You can put fake names on registrations until you're rolling in a Bentley, but that doesn't mean people will be showing up at the polls and trying to vote under a fake name on 11/4. Distract distract distract!

Posted by: cao091402 | October 14, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Let's make sure our votes get counted, in spite of Rove's efforts to the contrary. see StealBacktheVote.org.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 14, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

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