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Palin Adds Fannie Mae Execs to List of Objectionable Obama Associates


Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin, campaigns at a rally, Oct. 7, 2008, at The Jacksonville Landing in Jacksonville, Fla. (Jake Roth/Associated Press)

By Perry Bacon Jr.
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- William Ayers isn't the only one of Barack Obama's supporters Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin finds objectionable.

"Now our opponent's campaign is claiming for the first time Barack Obama wasn't aware of Ayers' radical background," the Republican vice-presidential candidate told a crowd of thousands at a rally here, launching a fourth straight day of attacks on Obama over personal associations. "He didn't know he launched own political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist? What's next, claiming he didn't know that two of his biggest supporters were running Fannie Mae? ... Maybe he just thought they were just guys in his Washington neighborhood."

Palin didn't name Franklin Raines or James Johnson, two former Fannie Mae executives who are Obama supporters. But the crowd cheered loudly as she sought to connect Obama to the troubled mortgage company.

Raines is not known to be close to Obama, but Johnson had been a close adviser to the Illinois senator's campaign, even briefly serving on a three-person committee to help select his vice-presidential nominee. Obama and Ayers held one of his earlier meetings before running for state senate in 1995 at Ayers' home, but the two have not spoken in more than a year. Obama's top political adviser, David Axelord, said in a recent interview that Obama did not know of Ayers 1960's involvement in the Weather Underground when he attended the event at Ayers' home, a remark Palin ridiculed.

At the rally along the St. John's River here, with a crowd occasionally interrupting her with chants of "Nobama!" or "Sarah!", Palin accused Obama of looking to "exploit" the current economic crisis.

"For a campaign that says it's all about the future, our opponents spend a lot of time talking about the past," she said. "They look to the past because that's where you find blame. We look to the future because that's where you find solutions."

In vague terms, she outlined some of her running mate's proposals on economic issues: freezing increases in most spending on domestic programs to balance the federal budget, cutting funding for earmarks and expanding the use of alternative energy sources.

But much of her rhetoric, like McCain's, was about character.

"Tonight it's town hall time," she said, referring to the debate between Obama and McCain in Nashville. "We'll see the difference between a man who puts his faith in government and a leader who puts his faith in you.... A politician who observes and analyzes us and a leader who knows and understands us.... The difference between a guy who makes promises and a guy who gets things done."

While Obama and McCain have occasionally had days on the campaign trail in the recent weeks with only one or two events, the GOP vice presidential nominee had a packed Tuesday schedule, with a speech and a fundraiser here, a rally in Pensacola, Fla., and then a speech in Greenville, N.C. She also did an interview with Fox News' Greta Van Susteren, who was cheered loudly as she walked into the Jacksonville rally with the press.

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In the face of these attacks, Barack’s response is evoking memories of Nelson Mandela and the quiet, steady, unwavering dignity that enabled him to rise above the evil that was continuously trying to take him down.

As the world knows, that is leadership. True, strong, pure leadership.

Posted by: ngeisler | October 10, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

"More on Palin's tax returns (Updated)"

"Under a post, Tax Profs Agree: Gov. Palin's Tax Returns Are Wrong, a couple tax law professors write that the Palins appear to have underpaid taxes. And they're not buying a letter issued by the campaign last week from Roger Olsen, a Washington, D.C., tax attorney, who defends the Palins' returns, including handling of per diem payments to Alaska's first family.

Writes John Bogdanski, professor of law at Lewis & Clark: "There is no serious debate (at least, none that has been brought to our attention) about the fact that at least the amounts paid for the children's travel -- $24,728.83 in 2007, according to the Washington Post -- are taxable. The campaign's tax lawyer has got at least that much of the law, and perhaps more, wrong."

In a later update, Bogdanski unearths the State of Alaska's posted policy on long-term per diem. He thinks the state failed to follow its own rules when it didn't include diem payments last year as taxable income for the governor.

This document is a potential blockbuster. It establishes two important facts:

(1) The state has long acknowledged that it had a duty to determine whether Palin's "tax home" was really Anchorage and Wasilla, a conclusion which would have required that her per diems be reported as taxable income.

(2) The state knew that when an employee is planning to spend a majority of her time on state business in the Anchorage area for a four-year period, Anchorage is the employee's "tax home," and per diems for time spent in the "tax home" are taxable income.

So why didn't Alaska officials follow the state's official policies and report Palin's per diems as taxable income on her W-2? Only they can answer that."

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132324

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 7, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Listen to the Obama whiners - would you like some cheese with your whine?

Obama has never been truly vetted. He's never had to explain himself, his associations, his background, and how he arrived where he is, questionable though it obviously is.

He comes out of nowhere and we are supposed to just bow and say,

"Sir, though we know you don't have any experience that would qualify you to be President (you were only in the US Senate for 1 year when you started your campaign, and you have never been the executive or leader of anything substantial), because you speak so sweetly and with such resonance in your voice, surely you must know what is best for us and we will surely follow you."

Right.

In the end an informed public is not about to go along with handing over a $2.8 Trillion dollar organization along with an economic crisis on the scale of nothing we've seen since 1945 to such an unproven and untried individual. That's worse than handing the keys of the Lincoln to a 15-year old with a learner's permit, and saying: 'Go get em, junior,' we trust you totally.'

Posted by: votewithyourfeet | October 7, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Sarah, Two more dudes to add to your list of people that work for Fannie Mae $ Freddie:

Mark Bluce & Rick Davis (I may have misspelled their names, but, you know who I mean; since you pal around with them too, and you never seem too worried about accuracy)

OOOPS! They work for your boss! Oh yeah, and they were hired by Fannie Mae & Freddie to influence your boss.

Maybe ya need ta read a few more of all of those newspapers you know all the newspapers you read all the time and not just the headlines so you know you stop messing up so bad and like man setting yourself up

Posted by: marie_mcdermott | October 7, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

"Todd Palin to answer Troopergate investigator's questions

BY MID WEEK: Must be in writing, funneled though his lawyer."

"The campaign has fought the Legislative Council's investigation, claiming it's become politicized by Democrats. Todd Palin and various Palin aides refused to testify under subpoena before the Senate Judiciary Committee in September.

The attorney general sued to get the subpoenas of the Palin aides dismissed, but lost the case in Superior Court Thursday.

The McCain-Palin campaign claims Todd Palin's written responses to Stephen Branchflower -- the investigator hired by a bi-partisan group of 12 legislators -- would satisfy the subpoena."

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/547978.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 7, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

SNOPES FACT-CHECKS PALIN'S LIES ABOUT DEMS AND FANNIE AND FREDDIE:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/fanniemae.asp

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

"State to review Palin per diem payments"

"Palin has received more than $17,000 in per diem payments since taking office in December 2006 for 312 nights she stayed in her Wasilla home about an hour's drive from Anchorage. The state provides a home for the governor in Juneau."

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/548647.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 7, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

NEWS FLASH!
Sarah Palin declares the University of Chicago a terrorist organization after learning that it has funded professor Ayers for the last 20 years. College deans, Mayor Daley, and others to be sent to Quantanamo. McCain promises immediate air strikes on Chicago.

Posted by: FellowTraveler | October 7, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if McCain will drop the F bomb in the debate tonight, McCain is no stranger to the f word, see video at http://www.mccanes.com

You can watch McCain and Obama preparing for the debates, including out takes at http://www.watchdebate.com

See who won the watchdebate debator of the year award. http://www.Huckabeeshow.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 7, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Obviously the journalism major from Alaska still fails to read any newspaper, and is still ignorant about Rick Davis' drawing 3-year salary from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac without performing anything.

Posted by: TaoZen | October 7, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Even Bill Clinton is intelligent enough to have placed blame on the Democrats for Fannie/Freddie but the MSM puts that for about a day and then goes back to sweeping it under the rug.

Posted by: Cryos | October 7, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"It absolutely amazes me that anyone who puurports to be commiting jounalism--as opposed to being just another 21st Century Grup Street Hack in the Privatized Propaganda Ministry--could write this story with nary a mention of RICK DAVIS, McCain's CAMPAIGN MANAGER whose relationship with Fannie and Freddy was far more extensive--and profitable."

Maybe you can see through your ignorance for 5 minutes to see THE BIGGEST BENFICIARIES OF FANNIE MAE WERE ALL DEMOCRATS INCLUDING DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES AND THE DEMOCRATIC RANKING BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

And those same democrats blocked the legislation to regulate the agencies. Its amazing how stupid people are and just belive what they want to believe.

Oh well I make a good living and will laugh in the coming years at all the democratic bottom feeders who won't get squat from Obama except more control over their lives and will still be dirt poor and unable to see 3 feet in front of their faces.

Posted by: Cryos | October 7, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Judging by the ignorance by the posts of people on this thread it is no wonder how people like Hitler get elected. Obama's record DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS HIS CLAIMS but people are so caught up in the fervor they completely ignore it to try to project their ideals onto Obama.

Its no wonder rich people don't really care about most poor to middle class they show themselves to be a bunch of greedy, ignorant sheep who just don't have the brains to make a good living.

Posted by: Cryos | October 7, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Now I think I know what it's like to be a Republican, because I can feel myself getting dumber every time I hear her talk.

Just form a coherent sentence sweetie, I'm sure you'll get it next time!

Posted by: Terrorfied | October 7, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

It absolutely amazes me that anyone who puurports to be commiting jounalism--as opposed to being just another 21st Century Grup Street Hack in the Privatized Propaganda Ministry--could write this story with nary a mention of RICK DAVIS, McCain's CAMPAIGN MANAGER whose relationship with Fannie and Freddy was far more extensive--and profitable. No wonder you can't hold your circulation. Why should anyone PAY for this kind of scat?

Posted by: Phrank1 | October 7, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

William Ayres would not have hosted an event for Obama if he didn't feel he had a political ally in Obama. For Obama to claim not to have known about the Weatherman/terrorist bomber connection is a deception at best.

Obama doesn't have the answers to all our problems, he doesn't have a history of solving problems. He is an intellectual and is full of the word "we need". We all know that we need but that doesn't solve anything. It took a lot of "smart, intellectual" people to get us into this mess, maybe it will take someone with a little bit of reality and common sense to help sort it all out. The fools on the hill certainly won't do it because they are too busy covering for themselves and blaming others while "Main Street" rots.

Posted by: kkmarie01 | October 7, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

As Adlai Stevenson said long ago, “If the Republicans will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them.” Some things never seem to change.

Posted by: FellowTraveler | October 7, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

PALIN'S COMMENTS DEBUNKED THOROUGHLY AS LIES.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/fanniemae.asp

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN AND GENERAL SINGLAUB OF IRAN-CONTRA INFAMY.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iran_contra

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN LINKED TO PRIVATE GROUP IN IRAN-CONTRA AFFAIR.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jzQtw1kATj1xCqPcAmwgCKDtNpDQD93LGSJG0

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN AND RICK DAVIS'S GANGSTER TIES TO THE KREMLIN AND MONTENEGRO.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_berman

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Interesting, BCamp55...

...as you express the same mannerisms of a frustrated and ignorant fool only surmounting to shouts in the dark.

You only need to look around you to see that Eden's burning.

Vote Smart: http://www.votesmart.org/index.htm

Posted by: zmcqueary | October 7, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

VIETNAM VETERANS REVEAL JOHN MCCAIN'S REAL POW PAST.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

A Freddie Mac Money Trail Catches Up With McCain

Last week, though, McCain's trust in Davis was tested again amid disclosures that Freddie Mac, the troubled mortgage giant that was recently placed under federal conservatorship, paid his campaign manager's firm $15,000 a month between 2006 and August 2008. As the mortgage crisis has escalated, almost any association with Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae has become politically toxic...http://www.newsweek.com/id/161218

Typical Hypocrite.

Unsevered Ties?

Regulatory filings indicate that McCain campaign chief Rick Davis remains an officer with his lobbying firm.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/160713?tid=relatedcl

Why would anyone listen to a women who hired a managerial team to do her work for her while she stayed home, frolicked around with hubby conceiving they 5th child and billing the Tax payers for "work done at home" - a woman who has her first dude sit in on ALL city counsel meetings at her side while "on the job".

Posted by: RepublicanAlternative | October 7, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

PALIN IS A CHRISTIAN DOMINIONIST TIED TO JOEL'S ARMY.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/29/163234/559/495/579213

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I am not saying that character isn't important but McCain or Palin are not the ones to be telling anyone about character. McCain had numerous affairs while he was married to his first wife. He didn't think she was sexy anymore after she was injured in a serious car accident. McCain's whole campaign is run by lobbyists, and he has shown a willingness to compromise on every ideal he once held dear. He once called fundimentalist pastors "agents of intollerance, now he give speaches in their churches. He humiliated his father and grandfather by barely graduating from the Navel Accedemy even though they were both Admirals and put huge pressure on the Accademy to accept John and keep him there. McCain said he would never run a dirty campaign and that the Rev Wright story was off limits but now he is talking about nothing else. McCain says he is a patriot, but a patriot wouldn't do his best to further divide America at a time of crisis. The list goes on and on and on, but one major difference between the questionable judgements and actions of McCain vs. those of Obama is that McCain did these things as an adult, some of them when he was middle aged or older. If Obama made a mistake with Ayers or Wright he did it when he was in his 20s and he made the correct choice when he realized how it might look.

McCain was 50 when the Keating 5 incident happened, older than Obama is today. McCain was 72 when he said that the economy is sound, while the market was crashing and banks were going bankrupt. McCain was 72 when he decided to suspend his campaign and take care of the economic crisis (that didn't work out so well). McCain still has a bunch of lobbyists working for his campaign even though he claims that he is going to change Washington. One of McCain's major advisors was getting paid to lobby for a bank until a few weeks ago, and that guy still works for McCain.

Palin is a complete nut case. She has recently performed rituals to protect herself from witchcraft, the video is on YouTube. She, like McCain, barely made it through college. Both Palin and her daughter got pregnant before they were married. I don't believe any of her children are going to college. She is much less like you and me than Obama, unless you believe that education is a joke, and you feel that your children require no guidence or rules.

I have never seen such a case of thowing stones in a glass house in all my life. But McCain is desparate and he doesn't care a rats butt about America, he just wants to win.

Posted by: bjuhasz | October 7, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain uses the white woman antagonizing the black man tactic. Can the black man retaliate against the white woman without her crying rape and him being hung? Dirty pool, way below the belt. Sarah should be ashamed instead of enjoying this game so much.

Posted by: loves2eatchocolate | October 7, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

We are all scared to death right now of losing our jobs, our homes and our savings. What are McCain/Palin doing? They are trying to make us more afraid of Barak Obama because they think that is the only way they can win the election. At a time when we need rational, objective talk about a real crisis, McCain and Co. are trying to make us think that Obama is going to blow us up in our beds. At the end of the day, it is McCain who is the ultimate traitor.

Posted by: jeffl240 | October 7, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN WAS MADE BY THE MOB THROUGH CINDY'S FATHER.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=0fd7470d-a41f-4d9e-9328-fd079b476a0a&p=3

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

everybody said that john mcsame is a honorable man but honor starts at home and he was truly not honorable when it came to his first wife and that is a shame a just don't trust him because that says a lot about a person. if you ever noticed that what ever a child do at home you can rest assurely that, that is what they are going to do in public if they use profanity at home they will do that in public if they steal at home they will steal in public the reason why i used that is because i am in the child care business and i see it all the time he just don't have our best interest at heart and plus he is a third bush team and we truely don't need that at a time like this... and tonight will be the night the american people will see the real leadership that we need. VOTEOBAMA'08 VOTEOBAMA'08VOTEOBAMA'08

Posted by: obama1 | October 7, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN'S SAVINGS AND LOAN DEREGULATION SCANDAL COST 20,000 RETIREES THEIR LIFE SAVINGS AND TAXPAYERS OVER $3 BILLION.

http://www.keatingeconomics.com

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

zmcqueary

Wow nice list of the typical liberal talking points programmed int you trolls.

I suppose it would be simply too much trouble to ask for a single fact to back up your laundry list of banal, mind numbing, self serving, liberal drivel.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 7, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: carolab58 | October 7, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Obamorons top two qualities - -
1) convenient case of amnesia when he needs one
2) the uncanny ability to fit everyone from his grandmother to that racists scum bag Wright under a bus when it’s politically handy.

Do we really need a guy like this with his hand on the trigger?

I just worry he'll forget it's for the bomb and think he's playing Hell Raiser 16 and boom – there goes Australia.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 7, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"our opponents spend a lot of time talking about the past," she said. "They look to the past because that's where you find blame."

What does Palin think raising Ayers' actions in the '60s is (when Obama was 8 years old), if not looking to the past?

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | October 7, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Rick Davis who runs McCain's campaign was making money from Freddie Mac through his lobbying company until last month. Palin who can't cite a single newspaper she actually reads may not know that. She also doesn't seem to know that every report on the Freddie/Fannie connection to Obama has shown that there is not nor has there ever been any meaningful link. More lies and smears to grease the skids for the failing McCain Campaign. Heckuva job, Palin. you got somebody to yell Kill him!! in Florida yesterday - how about today, any luck?

Posted by: jeffl240 | October 7, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I don't get: The reporters are not able to interview Palin themselves, so instead they are covering whatever Palin says in Republican rallies like they are press conferences. Reporters don't get to question her or challenge anything she says - many just repeat it. W-Post does a better job than most at trying to get behind the snarkiness to some facts, but still W-Post reporters - aren't you feeling a little bit used? Isn't a big part of the story that she can follow the campaign script at a rally, but not answer a question in an interview or at a debate? Shouldn't a story covering a rally start with a statement of whether the candidate talked with the press - or just performed for the crowd? I'm becoming more disenchanted with her by the day.

Posted by: Margie2 | October 7, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

People in this country seem to not care about someone character. It really does matter. Keating 5- McCain sat on a couple of meetings and then said... you know, I don't want to influence anyone and this is wrong so I remove myself.

Ayers- Obama- sits on a board with him, starts his political career with him at a fundraiser.. a known terrorist. But, this is ok because he was only 8 when Ayers did it and it is wrong to question him...

Posted by: tbastian | October 7, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

This is the very tactic that ruined the campaign of Hillary Clinton. When the Clinton's forgot to articulate her vision for the country and started just slamming Obama, it did not work. Certainly, a percentage of her supporters remained loyal but many more did not see this behavior as worthy of the presidency. I am sorry that Palin/McCain have pushed Obama into the Keating documentary but they did. They have forgotten to articulate their vision and they are really talking to a fairly small percentage of voters. Their base. It might be enough if the times favored the wealthy and selfish. But the times favor Brother's Keeper politics. And it is getting more so.

Posted by: GaiasChild | October 7, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

The MSM gets it wrong again.... I just left the rally in Pensacola FL and there were over 12,000 people there and over 2,000 that couldn't get in. The reception she got was amazing. Although you won't see tihs covered anywhere...

Fl for McCain!

Posted by: tbastian | October 7, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Sarah knows her people, like general McClellan of Afganisthan, goshdarn, wait, Civil War -- oops! never mind.... but of course, it is sooo unscripted and real -- she brings out the marsh mellow in the cow pie of all republicans....

Posted by: al11 | October 7, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

A federal investigation is being opened into the actions and comments of Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott at a rally for Gov. Sarah Palin in Estero on Monday.

Erica S. Hamrick, senior attorney at the U.S. Office of Special Counsel, wrote in an e-mail to a third party that her office will be investigating under the Hatch Act, which governs political activities of certain elected officials.

The complainant stated the sheriff violated that act because the sheriff’s office receives federal money, engaged in political activity while on duty, engaged in political activity while in uniform, wore political buttons while on duty and used political influence or authority to interfere with an election.

The U.S. Office of Special Counsel addresses the Hatch Act as it pertains to local officials on their Web site, which states the following:

“The Hatch Act applies to executive branch state and local employees who are principally employed in connection with programs financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States or a federal agency. Employees who work for educational or research institutions which are supported in whole or in part by a State or political subdivision of the State are not covered by the provisions of the Hatch Act.

“Employees of private nonprofit organizations are covered by the Hatch Act only if the statute through which the organization receives its federal funds contains language which states that the organization shall be considered to be a state or local agency for purposes of the Hatch Act, e.g., Headstart and Community Service Block Grant statutes.

“An employee’s conduct is also subject to the laws of the state and the regulations of the employing agency. Additionally, employees should be aware that the prohibitions of the Hatch Act are not affected by state or local laws.”

Neither Hamrick nor her office could be immediately reached for comment.

Posted by: MILLER123 | October 7, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Insidethewhitehouse--

Thank you for hitting the nail on the head...if there is anything Bush did for this country was to complete divide it in half. We have become a blind nation to the atrocities that we have sat idly by and let sweep our rights and ethics out the door.

We are the laughing stock of the entire world, facing economic chaos, and the one person who should be held responsible for letting it all go down the drain is the same person writing and reading about it instead of protesting in front of the White House doors. Whatever happened to the Power of the People?

Shame on us all.

Posted by: zmcqueary | October 7, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

BY RACHEL MYERS, rmyers@news-press.com and JENNIFER BOOTH REED, jreed@news-press.com • October 6, 2008

Posted by: MILLER123 | October 7, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The Hatch Act of 1939 is a United States federal law whose main provision is to prohibit federal employees (civil servants) from engaging in partisan political activity. Named after Senator Carl Hatch of New Mexico, the law was officially known as An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities.

The act precluded federal employees from membership in "any political organization which advocates the overthrow of our constitutional form of government." During the Second Red Scare, this designation was interpreted to include communist and labor organizations.
AIP MEMEBERS
Where does Saraha Palin and Todd Palin fall under this act? Todd Palin recieved payment from Alaska and travel during business for Alaska. (This also bring up tax problems for them.)

The skinhead sherrif that introduced Palin violated the "Hatch Act"

Posted by: MILLER123 | October 7, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Insidethewhitehouse---

I'm glad to see someone else is fed up with this "political" garbage. What happened to politics? I always thought it was about making our country the best it can be. The more and more I see, it seems to be a puppet saying anything his party tells him in order to get elected. I believe the media, along with ignorant people who can't think for themselves have a big role in this circus-like election process.

It's like I was saying for Bush's reelection, when I voted Gore, if Gore can do 1 thing right that would be better than Bush. And, honestly, I feel the same way this election. I just don't see any real plans from republicans other than smearing the fear of the unknown. Not to say Obama will deliver, but like I said if he does on one thing I believe that's more than McCain/Palin could do.

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 7, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

All over the world, including here in Canada, people are wondering if America will elect Obama, awaken from years of ignorance, isolation, and the politics of fear. Your chance to regain respect and take your place as a beacon of peace, tolerance, secularism and prosperity is now. This is not a time for Mr McCain and this silly woman. She ain't no Maggie Thatcher that's for sure.

Posted by: doncooney | October 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I swear...so many of you are as ignorant as they come. The fact that, as a party, you consider the highly educated "elitist" speaks volumes. It's as if being average and under-educated is what you aspire to in a President.

For all of your conspiracy theory, name-calling and slander, the fact is that FBI does full background investigations of our congressmen and senators. Presidential candidates are exposed to significantly more background investigation in addition to the public scrutiny of their histories.

You want to vote McCain or Obama - do it based on their respective platforms. Hell, at least try to learn what their platform is. So many of you couldn't speak to a single qualified statement about their candidate. As a matter of fact, neither can Palin. But ask you about conspiracy and nonsense and you won't shut up.

I'm independent and will be voting Obama. If he can deliver 50% of his initiatives, it will be 100% better than the complete lack of plan offered by McCain/Palin.

Posted by: InsideTheWhiteHouse | October 7, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

huhmmm31, so I take it you think that McCain is going to bring the change we need? Honestly I don't believe anything a politician says, because it's all just an attempt to sway some votes. I just don't see where McCain/Palin will bring change, maybe I just need to hear them actually talk about their views and opinions on worldly issues....not Obama's friends or affiliates or whatever they might be. I'm not sure that Obama has what we need right now, but atleast Obama (well his party anyhow) has ideas. So far, I have yet to hear any logical ways to fix our economic turmoil, caused mainly by our oil companies buying every patent they can so they can keep the oil flowing. I mean think about it gas prices rise and the cost of everything transported rises. Food especially. So, if you have any info regarding the republican views on how to bring our great country back on top, or regarding how McCain/Palin's cabinet would actually be different from Bush's cabinet I'm all ears.

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Having Palin questioning Barack Obama's "character" and "associations" is the last act of a desperate campaign. Most, if not all of these accusations have been circulating around the Internet since Obama entered the race, and have been proven false numerous times. In other words, there is nothing new here. Only the far right wingnuts will take this stuff seriously, and they're already going to vote Republican.

The McCain/Palin ticket will do anything to distract voters from the fact that the economy is collapsing around us during a Republican administration.

It will be interesting if John McCain brings them up tonight in his preferred town hall debate environment - much tougher to lie about your opponent when he is sharing the same stage with you in front of an audience.

Posted by: kdphil40 | October 7, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

tjgh,
A lot of hate, but no real substance. Do you have anything to support those statements that Sarah Palin is a fanatic?! Can you dispute what she said about Obama factually? If you can't then you are the one lacking intelligence.

Posted by: huhmmm31 | October 7, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Wishfulthinking1, sometimes it is important to see where someone has come from to see where they will lead us. Obama touts himself as the bringer of change. Change in and of itself is not inherently good. We need to know what kind of change. Are his claims about the kind of change he is bringing consistent with his history. So far, nothing Obama has said matches with his history. I have to believe he will continue with practices that I believe will weaken this country. Of course we are all worried about the future. But I want someone in office who will lead us into a better future.

Posted by: huhmmm31 | October 7, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Palin is an fanatic feeding rhetoric and lies to her frenzied followers who, thank God, only number in a few thousand here and there. McCain really is a stupid old man if he actually believes the majority of Americans supports this crap.

Posted by: tjgh3 | October 7, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Ok its true that Obama isnt that qualified to be president, but an even sadder fact is that people are even less enthusiastic about McCain, McBush, McRNC, so the GOP should of had a different nominee, then maybe they would of had a chance. A new national poll taken by watchdebate.com says that people preffer Huckabee/Palin08
5 to 1 over mccain palin. Matter of fact those polled liked Huckabee/mccain08 over McCain/Palin08 nearly 2 to 1. The problem isnt how bad Obama is, The problem is how bad of a candidate McCain is. See the Poll your self at http://www.mccanes.com/watchdebatevp.html

So no matter how much the GOP crys, and how desperate they get its their own fault for Pushing such a weak candidate. This will be the first time I ever vote Dem and I think Obama is a much stronger candidate then McCain. Funny though, You will never believe who was voted Debator of the year.
http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

rjmj1983----

just remember if you don't vote you have no right to complain about how they mess everything up.

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Dullard,
Not really sure why you think that it is funny that Obama is a terrorist sympathizer, but hey to each his own.

Posted by: huhmmm31 | October 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

It amazes me every day to see how many people believe and even perpetuate anything they hear, without finding out for themselves if it's true. And, beyond that it amazes me how many people focus on who either candidate knew when they were 8 or 20 or 50. Does anyone actually care about where our country is headed and how we can fix it?????

Posted by: wishfulthinking1 | October 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe either one of them deserve to be President. For the first time in my adult life; I don't want to vote!

Posted by: rjmj1983 | October 7, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to the McCain-Palin campaign. All the mud is being thrown (both ways), but have you noticed the guy in the background with the clean white shirt? Who is that?? Oh, look it's the Obama VP candidate! You mean to tell me after all these years in gov't that he doesn't have any dirt?? Guess who gets my vote - not for VP but for President!

Come on kids, time to play nice and ALL of you to stop lying to the public - we are not as stupid as you make us to be. Tell us what you are REALLY going to do about: Economy/Financial Situation, Health Care, Unemployment, Foreign Trade. Don't give me the $2.00 tour, I've just invested a whole lot more than that in the "Bailout", tell me the TRUTH! Do any of them really know what that means?

Posted by: dj4u413 | October 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I am undecided so far but, I do object strongly to the nut jobs that keep trying to pin Obama with the Middle Eastern tag. All that does is confirm the racist hijack of the Republican party. At least be honest and say you don't like him because he's black!
More importantly, to the righteous right, I live in the United States of America. How can you deride the radical Muslims, yet want your own form of radical religion to rule the country? What's the difference between Hagee and Khomeni??

Posted by: MediaEmpyre | October 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Apology to the moderators. I lost myself briefly, dealing with this lunatic individual Sarah Palin. Sorry about the previous posting.

Sarah, most of us, the thinking part of the population whether they are in the US or abroad, do not really expect you, Sarah Palin, to understand fine nuances of historical moments that we face now. Many of us, black, white, yellow and red,(it really doesn't matter, although it must matter to you a lot),believe that Barack Obama is one of those historical figures gracing this very historically significant moment.

We believe that it is Obama's moment and your pathetic, brainless tactics of stirring up hatred of 'unknown' is not going to work. We, in the 21st century, have read(unlike you) enough, thought enough(again, unlike you) and came to a solid conclusion that Barack Obama is good for America and good for the world. Dont you dare try to stop that. You are no match for him, you poor sweetheart.

Posted by: thisworld | October 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

It is strange that the Obama campaign first said that he was close with the good reverend at his church, then as things began heating up in the media, he denounced the man and disagreed with everything the man ever said. Then his campaign says that he and Ayers are close. But again as media attention heats up, he says he barely knows the guy. This pretty much seems to be his pattern. I would be really concerned if I were Biden. He doesn't seem to have a whole lot of loyalty to those who have supported him through the years.

Posted by: huhmmm31 | October 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Turns out Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, was involved with Freddie Mac. Quite recently.


"One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month from the end of 2005 through last month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement."


"The disclosure undercuts a statement by McCain on Sunday night that his campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years."
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/politics/w24davis.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&hp
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The issue is that, indeed, on Sunday McCain said that Davis had "nothing to do with" with Freddie Mac since 2005, and invited reporters to check up on it. Well, it turns out reporters did, and Davis was involved after that point, and even right up to the present -- having Davis's company be receiving payments from Freddie Mac as of last month hardly counts as "no involvement." Worse yet, it seems those payments were made specifically because of Davis's "close ties" to McCain.


There's even a little bit of schadenfreude involved, here, in that it was McCain's flagrant lie on the matter that compelled parties to come forward, just to make sure people knew that "not involved" meant "involved, and still taking their money."


"Rick Davis took a leave from Davis & Manafort for the presidential campaign, but as a partner and equity-holder continues to benefit from its income. No one at Davis & Manafort other than Mr. Davis was involved in efforts on Freddie Mac’s behalf, the people familiar with the arrangement said."


"On Sunday, in an interview with CNBC and The New York Times, Mr. McCain responded to a question about Mr. Davis’s role in the advocacy group through 2005 by saying that his campaign manager “has had nothing to do with it since, and I’ll be glad to have his record examined by anybody who wants to look at it.”


"Such assertions, along with McCain campaign television ads tying Mr. Obama to former Fannie Mae chiefs, have riled current and former officials of the two companies and provoked them to volunteer rebuttals. The two officials with direct knowledge of Freddie Mac’s post-2005 contract with Mr. Davis spoke on condition of anonymity. Four other outside consultants, three Democrats and a Republican also speaking on condition of anonymity, said the arrangement was widely known among people involved in Freddie Mac’s lobbying efforts."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuylCah4sKM
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If the McCain campaign is so ticked off at being called liars, they might want to try, well... NOT LYING!

Posted by: DrainYou | October 7, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Did you know that Obama is a Post Turtle

Here is how it was explained to me:

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old rancher, who's hand was caught in the gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our president.
The rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Obama is a 'Post Turtle".
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post turtle' was.
The old rancher said, 'When your driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'.
The old rancher saw the puzzled look on the doctor's face so he continued to explain. 'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, and he doesn't know what to do while he's up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb a** put him up there to begin with.'

Posted by: pavlusha1 | October 7, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I am certainly glad that Palin is out in front of America exposing Obama as a Terrorist sympathizer....

After all, I was afraid Tina Fey would run out of material :)

Posted by: dullard | October 7, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Godhimself1,
How about backing up that comment with a few facts. Can't do that!? Typical hit an run liberal. Call someone a liar, but unable to back it up with fact. If you have something to dispute what I say, bring it to the table.

Posted by: huhmmm31 | October 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

You can say whatever you want about McCain's advisors. They did NOT belong to the Senate like Biden and Obama. They did not get money from Fannie and Freddie in order to vote against regulation of these companies or to discourage the government into looking to closely into Freddie and Fannie's accounting practices. Many people made money off Freddie and Fannie, but Biden and Obama are the only two people IN THIS RACE that were given the public trust and put in office specifically to protect the public from such abuses. They did not do their job, but somehow they say they are going to protect our economy now. How, when they so obviously couldn't before.

Posted by: huhmmm31 | October 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Palin is both dishonest and dangerous.

She is lying in her exaggerated statements about the frail links between Obama and Ayers or Raines or most of the other false bogeymen the McCain camp throws at the wall.

She is dangerous in that she inspires a few in her deluded crowd of admirers to shout out assassination threats. And she does not denounce these lunatics.

Sarah Palin is unAmerican when she proclaims that Obama is the equivalent of a traitor.

Sarah Palin is despicable.

Posted by: dee5 | October 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

huhmmm31:

You are a liar. (Remember, this is God talking).

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse


Bubbles Palin is a joke.

I don't what to make of her becoming a candidate for VP. (Although the GOP hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell this year.)

Does it speak to our collective stupidity that a person of avg. intelligence, w/ no clue of world socio-economic politics, that attended six colleges just to get a bachelors of journalism can become a candidate for VP. Or does say that this country truly is the land of opportunity?

I think it's the former.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 7, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight. Palin worries about radicals when she rubs shoulders with, wait - she lives with - wait - she is married to a man who belonged (card carrying) to the Alaska International Party? From what I know, party members believe they should separate from the US. I suppose Palin didn't know this. Ha! She's been winkin' and smilin' at Todd and his party for some time. The shoe of radical politics is on Palin's foot. She is pure bull!

Posted by: rozforobama | October 7, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I am sooo glad that the true Patriotic American people can see right through these two idiots.....McCain/Failin....and aren't buying into this b.s. The only folks that hands are sweating off this nonsense is the pathetic rethuglican base. They are excited about non-issues because they have no credibility on the real issues....The good thing about this is that it didn't help Hills and it won't help these two fools. I am soo glad that the election is almost over and these two parasites that are living on horse maneur can assemble their slime and crawl back from whence they originated. The good thing is that McCain will loose his senate seat and Sarah will loose her governor's seat for abuse of power and the whole world will be happy..Dog gonit....here I go again! LMAO

Posted by: YesweCan1 | October 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

And what of Palin's questionable association with the Alaska Independence Party? And what of Palin's husband's involvement with te Alaska Independence Party? And what of Palin's questionable association with the Reverend Bluthy? Hmmmmm? Anyone? How about Palin's involvement in troopergate? How about abuse of power charges against Palin in Alaska? How about Palin's endless string of lies? Hmmmmm? Anyone?

Posted by: Russell4America | October 7, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama worked with Ayers on a project to help improve education. Gee, I work with alot of people who I don't like very well and may well disagree with their politics. There is absolutely no record of Obama being friends with Ayers, even casual friends- in fact he is on record as saying he thinks Ayers' acts were 'despicable'.
Meanwhile, McCain sought favors for his good friends Keating and Donald Diamond, among others. He set up meetings at the Pentagon for Donald Diamond to help him buy Army owned land for half a million dollars and sell it just two years later for 20 million. He wrote letters supporting Keating and asking deregulators to overide regulations for Keatings Savings and Loans. Keating was not just an acquaitance: this from McCain's own book_
"On several occasions, he invited Cindy and me to his beautiful vacation retreat at Cat Cay in the Bahamas, flying us there, with out infant daughter, Meghan, and her nanny, on his private jet,'' McCain wrote with co-author Mark Salter, his chief of staff and speechwriter. "The place always seemed to have a huge, boisterous crowd in attendance... We would all crowd on his yacht, off for a day of swimming and snorkeling, and then return for another extravagant party with the best wine, food and entertainment available. They were memorable experiences, and even though our trips there would almost lead to my ruin, I would be lying were I to deny just how much I enjoyed them and how eagerly I awaited invitations to Charlie Keating's Shangri-La.''

Posted by: katharinestavrinou | October 7, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't she add herself and her husband to the list of people with questionable connections? Was her husband not a registered member of the radical right wing Alaska Independence Party for the years. Did she not address this radical group who's founder does not considers himself an American but an Alaskan. The founder said he had no use for the United States. Do we want this "first dude" any where near the White House?

Posted by: bradcpa | October 7, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

How do you spell misinformed, dumb and ignorant.....low IQ? S-A-R-A-H....S-A-R-A-H.....PALIN! GOTTCHA!!! YOU BETCHA!!! WINK....WINK...WINK....

You've gotta be kiddin me...say it ain't so that this child is trying to make a run for the V.P. slot...next to the highest position of the executive office.....Pinch me so that I can wake up out of this nightmare....

Posted by: YesweCan1 | October 7, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

spdrcr1,

Your point might be more likely to be given consideration except it isn't true. Davis is STILL listed as a principle in Davis-Manafort as is shown in its last corporate filings. Davis-Manafort continued to be paid by Fannie/Freddie to the tune of $15,000 per month until two months ago.

The money Obama received were individual contributions from EMPLOYEES of Fannie and Freddie, NOT from lobbyists or PACs as is the case with McCain.

Davis isn't relevant? The heck he isn't, he is McCain's campaign manager. If Davis isn't relevant, then neither is Johnson, but the McCain campaign certainly thinks he is. And don't forget Buse, McCain's chief of staff who was also a lobbyist for Fannie/Freddie. And don't overlook the "coincidence" McCain signed on to the Fannie/Freddie regulation bill almost a year after it was introduced only AFTER Davis was no longer heading the Fannie/Freddie funded lobbying group although he was still on retainer.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 7, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad to see the McCain campaign finally take the gloves off and expose the various Obama associations that the media has swept under the rug for so many months. My only regret is it took them so long to do it.

The media has been protecting their candidate by covering up his radical associations and misdeeds...while going out of their way to dig up dirt on McCain and especially Sarah Palin.

Say NO to the left wing media and NO Hussein!

McCain/Palin '08!

Posted by: NObama | October 7, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Sarah is coming back!! Make Way!!

Posted by: theecomonist101 | October 7, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

KAustin1-
Please get your facts straight about the "early release of sex offenders". The bill that he voted against was Illinois SB485 and it only dealt with the good time of certain sexual offenders.

It removed "good time" from convicted sexual assault offenders whose victim was under the age of 18 AND a family member of the offender. It did not remove "good time" for all sexual offenders.

A much stronger bill should have been passed that included ALL sexual offenders regardless of age or relation to victim.

Posted by: kelly2004 | October 7, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

To be honest, both campaigns are looking back. However, at least McCain's campaign is looking at Obama's history. Obama's campaign is trying to link McCain to Bush by using inuendo and outright lies about his voting record. McCain voted to go into Bosnia. He DID NOT vote for tax increases that Obama did for people who earned less than $46,000 a year. While he voted to go to war in Iraq, he often criticized Bush's handling of the war. He sounded the alert about Fanny Mae and Freddie. Those facts are undisputed. Obama may want to lump McCain with Bush, but his voting record and his very vocal disputes with his own party show that is not the case. However, it is also an undisputed fact that Obama had one of his first campaign meetings out of Ayer's living room. If he didn't know about Ayer's history at that time, I have to believe that he knew about it when he administered the funds for Ayers "education" programs. He was the editor of the Harvard Law Review for God's sake. How does he not know how to research his own political supporters. And it is also an undisputed fact that he attended an extremist church for 25 years. I don't know about you, but if I don't agree with a message that a church is spewing, I change churches. I don't sit there for 25 years and only decide to change churches when it is politically expedient to do so. Sarah Palin is not lying, if she was the popular media would be all over it. Instead they are questioning her tactics, NOT the facts that she is stating.

Posted by: huhmmm31 | October 7, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!

Posted by: theecomonist101 | October 7, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse


"Where "he" was UP UNTIL 2 MONTHS AGO"!

NEW YORK TIMES 9/24/08

"...The disclosure undercuts a remark by Mr. McCain on Sunday night that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had had no involvement with the company for the last several years...


"....As president of the Homeownership Alliance, Mr. Davis received $30,000 to $35,000 a month. He, along with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, have characterized the alliance as a coalition of many housing industry and consumer groups to promote homeownership, but numerous current and former officials at both companies say the companies created and bankrolled the operation to combat efforts by competitors to rein in their business. The companies dissolved the group at the end of 2005 as part of cost-cutting in the wake of accounting scandals and, at Freddie Mac, a lobbying scandal that forced out its top Republican lobbyist....

On Monday, the McCain campaign attacked The Times for its account of those payments to Mr. Davis, saying the paper was “150 percent in the tank” for Mr. Obama. Mr. Davis said that he had worked not for the two companies but for the advocacy group, which included other organizations as well and, he said, was focused only on promoting homeownership....

..After the Homeownership Alliance was dissolved, Mr. Davis asked to stay on a retainer, the people familiar with the deal said. Hollis McLoughlin, who was chief of staff to Richard F. Syron, Freddie Mac’s chief executive, arranged for a new contract with Davis Manafort at the reduced rate of $15,000 a month, they said..."

Hey FBI,
Don't forget to look in Rick Davis closet, especially around 2005.

George F. Wills "McCain has lost his head"

Posted by: MILLER123 | October 7, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!Sarah!

Posted by: theecomonist101 | October 7, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Good try Palin, McCain wins the whos friends with more horrible people battle because hes friends w/ you and Bush and many others like you.
But who cares, I'm going to stay focused on the issues and which candidates policies are better for me and my country. If all Americans to this, Obama wins in a landslide.

Posted by: YngRep | October 7, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Posters on this blog don't seem capable of rational thought.

The same anti McCain/Palin comments are repeated over and over as though the more you say something the more it is true.

Most of the comments are meaningless talking points straight from the move-on left wing sites.

Rational thought would force these idiots to research fact before posting some obscure you-tube video or cut and pasting some off the wall accusations.

Why don't these people ask themselves; Why would I support an unknown black guy with shady Chicago connections that tie him to radical individuals and groups.

The most dangerous of these is the ACORN group. Extortion, intimidation is the method they use for fund raising. Obama trained them and they did very well. They pressured democrats in congress to push for home ownership to unqualified borrowers. Banks and mortgage companies across America gave in and the loans were made. The crash we have undergone is due to the actions of democrats and ACORN. Obama wants to do even more of this unqualified lending if he gets elected.

The ACORN people are crooks, Barney Frank is a crook, Obama is a crook. That alone is reason enough to deny him a vote.

But, where there is smoke there is fire. Obama has denied any connection to terrorists..however there are unanswered questions that go back to his college days.

1.Why are his records at Harvard closed?

2.What about the money raised by Saudi operatives for his college expense?

3.Why did he have a foreign agent write letters to gain admission to Harvard?

4.What is his history in New York....that is a blank spot in his past..If he was applying for a real job, he would have to fill in the missing info so a proper background check could be made. Why haven't the MSM checked this out.

5.How he did not know Ayres was a radical anti-American terrorist is beyond belief. He has outright lied about this...what else has he lied about?

Posted by: prhornbeak | October 7, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

What about news from just 2 weeks ago....

Katie: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part as your foreign policy experience, what do you mean by that?

Sarah: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side... the land... uhh boundary... that we have with uhhh Canada. It it it's fff-funny that a comment like that was uh kind of made to...... uhh... character.......uhh......I don't know.....you know.......reporters...

Katie: Mocked?
Sarah: Yeah, mocked. I guess that's the word. Yeah. umm....

Katie: Well, explain to why that enhances your foreign policy credentials?
Sarah: Well, it certainly does. Because our......our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They are in the state that I am the executive of.

Katie: Have you ever been in an negotiations for example with the Russians
Sarah: We have trade missions back and forth we... we... It's very important when you even consider nation security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and and uh comes into the a a a air space of the United States of America wh wh where do they go? It's Alaska, it's just right over the border. It it is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that.... an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there they are right next to umm our state.

....What about the Keating five in 1988 20-year-old story when McCaint was 52...
The story may be old, but it's recently become surprisingly relevant to current events -- we are, after all, talking about a scandal involving major bank failures, financial fraud and greed, and political ineptitude.
There is history repeating itself 20 years later....

McCaint is running with a message about his ability to "reform" both DC and Wall Street record.

I agree with Jack Cafferty at CNN and his take on that CBS Interview...

Watch that report @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

McCaint is no hero...but peeeuuu Palin is a hero sandwich...full of old baloney

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I see at least one post by a lib that doesn't parrot the MSM smear against Rick Davis. He does own Davis/Manafort that took money from Fannie but he has not participated in their business since 2006. Not a great distinction I know but by comparison taking over $130,000 in campaign contributions which are recognized as having implicit quid pro quo when coming from a business is different than a lobbying business taking lobbying fees from a CLIENT especially when the person in question is not the candidate. That distinction coupled with the large number(more than a few)of questionable relationships so far discovered would be enough circumstantial evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt were a crime to have been alleged. Since it was not, Obama benefits from a mere public disdain for his views and friends and to overlook that is the height of ignorance when considering his character. His "open books" as one poster describes are pablum for fools and show nothing of his goals and ambitions which, when taken with the multitude of mentors he Does credit and even borrows the title of one of these books from indicate a dangerous radical perspective that has no place in politics let alone presidential politics. To see Doctors and other advanced degree holders making claims of instability and character issues against McCain is laughable and makes one wonder just where those degrees came from. Capitalism has its failings but Socialism has proven worse by far and with far faster negative results.Not just once or twice in history but every single time it has been employed which numbers in the hundreds yet so-called academics keep trying the same old tired marxism with a shiny new coat and underneath lies the viral lassitude and corrupt ruling class that destroyed economies throughout the world.

Posted by: spdrcr1 | October 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'll start taking Palin seriously when she proves that she can do something more than read a tele-prompter and use note cards....you know, when she does something like...give a PRESS CONFERENCE!!!


The first rule of American Politics, Don't lie to the Media:

On Sunday, in an interview with CNBC and the New York Times, Mr. McCain responded to a question about Mr. Davis’s role in the advocacy group by saying that his campaign manager “has had nothing to do with it since, and I’ll be glad to have his record examined by anybody who wants to look at it.”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGxLBEMQhNw
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Rule Two: Don't lie to the Media

One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years.
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Rule Three: Don't lie to the Media:

They said Mr. Davis’s his firm, Davis & Manafort, was kept on the payroll because of Mr. Davis’s close ties to Mr. McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, who was widely expected by 2006 to run again for the White House....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjEadwYUoFw&feature=related
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Freddie Mac’s roughly $500,000 in payments to Davis & Manafort began immediately after Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in late 2005 disbanded an advocacy coalition that they had set up and hired Mr. Davis to run, the people familiar with the arrangement said....


Rule Four: Don't Lie to the Media:

After the Homeownership Alliance was dissolved, Mr. Davis asked to stay on a retainer, the people familiar with the deal said. Hollis McLoughlin, who was chief of staff to Richard F. Syron, Freddie Mac’s chief executive, arranged for a new contract with Davis & Manafort, at the reduced rate of $15,000 a month...\
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuylCah4sKM&feature=related
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No one at Davis & Manafort other than Mr. Davis was involved in efforts on Freddie Mac’s behalf, the people familiar with the arrangement said.


Posted by: DrainYou | October 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Failing...Pailin.....

This empty headed, uneducated, dumb bafoon never ceases to amaze me.....how is it that with all of the dirt in this woman's bags, that she even brings herself to the podium and open up her uneducated mouth to begin trashing someone!! She has no class...she has no credibility and the only crowds that she and McCain seems to draw are angry, hateful, evil, racists, biggots who are literally screaming out "murder Obama", Kill Obama, terrorist", etc....this is a sign of the times....Are the McCain/Palin ticket moving America closer to another civil war? Those two and their campaign seems to bring out the worse in America and seem to send a very scary, racist, tone to those evil groups to murder Obama! I am wondering why the media isn't reporting on this and giving these two unpatriotic crooks a free pass???!! Say it ain't so...

Posted by: YesweCan1 | October 7, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Which demonstrates a closer relationship to a politician:

1. An individual hosts an in-home "meet the candidate" event for the politician during an election. (Ayres/Obama)

2. An individual invites the politician and his family to join him in the Bahamas for a family vacation. Politician and family accept. (Charles Keating/McCain)


Posted by: exco | October 7, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

alanguo,

How do you feel about McCain paling around with convicted terrorists? Can you say G. Gordon Liddy?

Posted by: wes1155 | October 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

The one thing that all of us are going to regret after Obama's landslide in November, is that we're going to be subjected to numerous roundtables about the press shortcomings in handling Palin issue.

Posted by: MILLER123 | October 7, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Shame on you Sarah! You profess to being Christian? Do you not remember your 10 commandments? Or are they only applicable to you when convenient? You know, in your heart, that none of the information spewing forth from your lipstick smeared mouth, is true. If this is the type of story you want to tell, how about exposing McShame's dealings with the Iran-Contra,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081007/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_iran_contra;_ylt=AjD8j05SdtZN2SEh6rc4E8upg9IF

The informed Americans won't fall for this type of mud-slinging politics. I sure hope you're not teaching your 5 children that this type of behavior is O.K., oh wait, you're too busy on the campaign trail to be teaching your family anything!

Posted by: AWOLGolfer | October 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin:
"For a campaign that says it's all about the future, our opponents spend a lot of time talking about the past," she said. "They look to the past because that's where you find blame. We look to the future because that's where you find solutions."

Do you see the double talk? The rebuplicans are going twenty years into Obamas past looking for dirt, slinging any thing they can find and blaming the democrats for going into the past.
This is Rove style campainging. Lies upon lies will get people confused enough to believe them. I disagree with the comment made by sidda, people are not eating this up at all. Every slander they put out from now on should be read twice! The first lie is the headliner, the second lie is more subtle, intended to sink the whole pile of crap into your head.
This is an old tactic from the GOP scum machine, and they used it against McCain to win a nomination in the past.
If you base a vote on this, you are easily manipulated(like they think you are) and you will end up voting for a liar and a thief.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

John McCain should ask one question to the Amercian people tonight:

My fellow Americans,

Do you feel that it is OK to be friends with a terrorist?

From FDR, to JFK to Reagan, have you heard or like to have your president to be friends with a terrorist?

Posted by: alanguo | October 7, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin charged rape victims for their exams. Posted by: nahnopenotquite ...
can't watch that yet b/c of firewalls... HOWEVER, every charge has a reason behind it. So I'll comment on it later.

BUT if you mention that, what about Obama's vote to have sexual offenders released early? Seriously, sexual offenders... early release. When all of his peers in the Illinois senate was against. Funny how this candidate constantly fights for the wrong side. Should have worked harder to clean up Chicago's crime and corruption instead of asking for $$$ to build museums and tourist centers. Complete waste of resource.

His head is absolutely not screwed on right.

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 7, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I could care less about some guy, who thought he was a big deal 40 years ago.
While massive amounts of wealth, are disappearing by the hour, from all Americans investments.
The American people should be livid at the position we now find our country in.
From the world stage, to our own problems here at home, the elected officials of the
United States have let "WE THE PEOPLE" down so far, that it may well never be corrected.
So if you as a voter, think Sarah Palin, with her trash mouth, will pull America back up. You will have no one to blame but yourself.
God Bless America. We sure need it.

Posted by: indianadave | October 7, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

(1) Sarah Palin is wearing white these days. Someone should throw a bucket of pig's blood at her during her next campaign speech.Posted by: mrtutto ... I didn't know children are so mean spiritted nowadays. Perhaps it comes along w/the "peace" anti-war mentality

(2)Since the Good Governor Palin likes to quote from the NY Times:

From the Tuesday, Oct. 7 NY Times, "Ms. Palin has several times cited a New York Times article published Saturday in raising Mr. Obama’s association with Mr. Ayers, but she has sidestepped its conclusion that the two men did not appear to be close and that Mr. Obama had never expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers." ---LOL... (a)no, but I suppose the newspaper forgot to ignore the fact that Obama's senior advisor David Axelrod said they are friendly during the primaries. But of course they changed their minds about it now. Similar to Wright's issues you know? (b) They've also didn't mention Ayers chose Obama to head his education chair in which Obama gave money to educate youth in radical thoughts/views. (c) He threw political parties for Obama in his own home, and some in Chicago actually says he babysat for Obama's children once or twice... (d) Tried to shut the chicago radio up about discussing this issue. But of course, you won't hear of this... b/c it's Obama's newspaper.

Posted by: KAustin1 | October 7, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

No one should be surprised with the Republicans capacity to engage in the nefarious. Moreso no one should be surprised that a man who was able to wiggle himself out of the Keating five scandal, by lying on Keating, is not shrewd enough to label his opponents what he himself is. Mccain has demonstrated that Nixonian tactics are not far removed from him, and the gall and acid of Lee Atwater and Carl Rove he can use, when he has nothing constructive to offer. His shennannigans in supposedly suspending his campaign and returning to Washington to lead was repeled by his own party ( republicans in congress) and left him looking like a dog with his tail between his legs. Unable to lead or demonstrate leadership he now decides to crawl under the belly of a snake to spill his venom. He must be made to understand that that venom will only poison this nation further and he has disqualified himself as fit to be President of these United States.His running, the most intellectual deficient VP nominee in history , will not answer or cannot answer to her own state about her actionsin the troopergate scandal, yet she like a mad dog ( pit bull) attacks what she does not understand. His and his running mates judgement is so blurred that one must must conclude according to Moe Hamburg, “when cannot find their but with their own two hands, how they smell gives them away”.

Posted by: samiaelsberesford | October 7, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

By bringing all the kitchen sink into the campaign Sarah Palin is dragging McCain down the toilet. There is a lot more that people do not know about the so called maverick. Now everything is coming out one by one.

John McCain's son Andrew McCain who was a director of the Silver State Bank resigned a couple of months ago. The Silver State Bank is one of the banks that went belly up and was siezed by the feds this past month. If you look at the stock price of the Silver State Bank over the past year it went from $20 to just pennies before being bailed out by the fed. Andrew McCain knew that the fundamentals of our economy is not strong when he was forced to resign (though he claims personal reasons) and his dad the McIdiot goes on TV and dupes us into thinking that the fundamentals of our economy are strong.

And you should also look into how McCain helped lobbyists from a European firm so that a $35 Billion pentagon military contract will be awarded to the European firm rather than the U.S. Boeing company. Does this look like 'country first'? That $35 billion military contract could have helped our economy if McCain was not part of the picture. All those lobbyists who lobbied McCain for the contract are now his close associates in his campaign.

Posted by: JimFargo | October 7, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"The Obamaniacs are frantic now that their messiah is being exposed for his radical alliances by Sarah Palin"

--nah, Sarah's got her own issues with her radical alliance with her hubby "secessionist Todd Plain"...Can't really get more unpatriotic than wanting to leave the United States-- we won't even go into the earmarks, bridge to nowhere, creationism, her tax evasion, shooting animals from helicopters, etc etc.

Posted by: pax_vobiscum2002 | October 7, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Palin likes to talk about radical views, but it seems she's forgotton about her own. She and her husband would like to see Alaska succeed from the union...
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/members-of-frin.html

Posted by: jt08 | October 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is wearing white these days. Someone should throw a bucket of pig's blood at her during her next campaign speech.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Palin's attacks on Obama's so-called "relationship" with former Weatherman member, Bill Ayers, a "domestic terrorist", who never killed anyone and who was never convicted of anything and whose actions took place when Obama was 8 years old, have verged on racist as she claims that Obama "doesn't see America as you and I do".

At a rally yesterday, a crowd member screamed, "Kill Him" as Sarah laughed and cheered with the crowd.

A fake sherriff waddles to the podium after peeeuuu and calls out Barack Hussein Obama to the crowd to further boos and chants of kill him...

At a McCain rally, he asked, "Who is Barack Obama?" and a crowd member yelled out "Terrorist" as McCain held that silly smirk on his addled face.

This reprehensible type of political campaigning is typical of the desperation the Republican Party finds itself in, as their numbers in the polls fall like the stock market...

peeeuuu palin and her husband are closeted facists and traitors...and again so is Vietcong propaganda model McCaint...

What is the Alaskan Independence Party?

The A.I.P. sympathized with Timothy McVeigh.

Founder Joe Vogel: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government", “and I won't be buried under their damn flag." (Joe Vogel is buried in Canada.)

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." Joe Vogel – Founder.

Dexter Clark, vice chairman of the A.I.P.: refers to the American soldiers in Alaska as "occupying troops."

Michael Hill, a representative of A.I.P., stated on Glen Beck’s program that the goal of the A.I.P. is to dissolve the United States and the Constitution.

This is Sarah Palin’s and the Republican Party’s version of patriotism and love of country.
........peeeuuuu

"First Dud", Todd Palin, registered with the Alaskan Independence Party in 1995 and remained a member for seven years. "Besides a short period of a few months in 2000 when he changed his registration to undeclared, pheww Palin remained a registered member of AIP until July 2002 when he registered again as an undeclared voter."

The AIP was founded in 1984, but its website doesn't begin listing officers until 1992, when its founder, Joe Vogler, "Disappeared"... in 1992, body found in May 1994."

As I have written in a previous blog...the same Joe Vogler who turned-up dead in a Fairbanks gravel pit, the victim of a "plastic-explosives sale gone bad", according to his murderer.

Sarah Palin addressed the Alaskan Independence Party Convention a little over 6 months ago, happily telling its attendees that she shared its "vision of upholding the Constitution of our great state", curiously not mentioning the Constitution of the United States.

She encouraged AIP to "keep up the good work".

The AIP website enshrines on its website a tirade from Joe Vogel that concludes with this statement.....

"We (the Alaskan Independence Party) ask that a courageous member of the United Nations sponsor us to appear before the General Assembly to present our case, that we may be restored to the list of Non-Self-Governing Territories so that we may eventually secure our right to self determination. We would also like to take the matter before the International Court of Justice if such is feasible."

...Now them's a fightun words.....

As for Wasilla, Alaska, it is STILL called the Methamphetamine capital of Alaska...oh also did you know that it is legal to possess under 3 ounces of Marijuhana in that state as well....

Sarah Sez..."gotta keep 'em stoned and stupid"

peeeuuu Palins 80% approval rating..yea, now I can see why...

A Skinhead Sherriff
Crowds chanting for human blood
A Woman in White....

Facism will come to us by a Bible in the right hand and a semi automatic rifle in the left.....

Alaskan Drug Enforcement under Palin proved uneffective...

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/states/alaska.html

Thanks but no thanks to McCaint and peeeuuu Palin for their treachery and further traitorus encounters

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats have been blaming the Republicans because the real estate bust happen during the Republicans term. What they did not say is that Obama was also to be blame! They also say that Obama is better in handling the economy than McCain, but all I hear from Obama is "I've got a plan." What's your plan? Tinkering with the economy because you think your really, really, really smart?
The economy is like a market, it respond to whatever you throw on it. Greenspan, financial giants' top executives, lenders and homeowners have not predicted the outcome of buying houses you can't afford because if they did, they would have done otherwise. Who wants to lose money?
Meanwhile, Obama would want to tinker with the economy. He thinks he's better than Greenspan, the financial giants' top executives and homeowners all combined. He think he can foreshadow the outcome. Haha. I would bet Sarah Palin is better in handling the economy than Obama. The reason? She would leave the economy alone and learn from its mistakes. She's not that smart, you know.

Posted by: theecomonist101 | October 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/7/75010/3956/937/622494

Joe Vogler
Founder, Alaskan Independence Party:
“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag.”

1994: Sarah Palin attends Alaskan Independence Party Convention
1995: Todd Palin joins Alaskan Independence Part
2000: Sarah Palin attends Alaskan Independence Party Convention
2006: Palin speaks at Alaskan Indpendence Pary Convention

2008 Palin address Alaskan Independence Party Convention

Sarah Palin
Addressing the Alaskan Independence Party Convention:
“We have a great promise to be a self-sufficient state…Keep up the good work…and god bless you”

Posted by: brdieR | October 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse


I was graduating high school during the 60s-70s, when social movements in this country were in full flower. Funny how activists are now labeled terrorists. During those times, young people saw themselves as revolutionaries seeking civil rights, women's rights, abortion rights--a more open and honest society. Without protest and challenge, democracies don't grow--and, yes, sometimes Americans in this country and throughout its history have used violent tactics. Most times, though, the protest was directed at nationalistic violence (Vietnam War, death penalty, medical experimenting on minorities) and societal violence--lynchings, burnings, killings, etc.

Republicans viewed Martin Luther King a terrorist by Palin's definitions; the English viewed Ghandi a terrorist, despite their non-violent methods, because they sought to disrupt the status quo. In fact, I think I'll compile a list of activists who are terrorists in Palin's eyes.

This is how narrow minded people think. Reduce all events to black & white, good & bad--the George Bush outlook on life. It doesn't matter who these people are or what these people think--if they don't think the Right way they are insurgents.

I know this story all too well, having lived it in this country for over 50 years. The gloves came off during the last weeks of Harold Washington's campaign to become the first black mayor of Chicago. Democrats, fearful of losing power because Washington vowed reforming the patronage system, turned into Republicans. They really didn't care that much about Washington's color; it was about power. But they knew they might be able to turn things around if they played that tune--"don't kid yourself," Ed Vrodolyak screeched to northwest side voters, "it's a racial thing." Washington won despite this vitriol, but it was the 1st race in memory where Republicans had an excellent chance to win the mayoralty.

Those of us who are boomers, comtemporaries of Ayers, know this story all too well. Palin & McCain need to think where this stuff can lead the country.

Posted by: macktan894 | October 7, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

John McCain should ask one question to the Amercian people tonight:

My fellow Americans,

Do you feel that it is OK to be friends with a terrorist?

From FDR, to JFK to Reagan, have you heard or like to have your president to be friends with a terrorist?

Posted by: alanguo | October 7, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin cheats on her taxes. Over $17,000 in taxable per diem reimbursement that she did not report as income!

This just in -- known William Ayers associate Arnie Weber has contributed the MAXIMUM to JOHN MCCAIN'S campaign! Weber, fellow member of a Chicago charitable board, along with Barack Obama and William Ayers, is a known supporter of John McCain. What other influence has this long-time Republican had on McCain's campaign? Why is McCain taking money from associates of -- according to Sarah Palin, tax evader and ethically challenged Republican VP candidate -- a known terrorist?


Palin is also the target of not one, but TWO separate investigations for her alleged unethical and illegal conduct while Governor of Alaska. While the details of "Troopergate" are still murky, the illegal comments by the Governor on a ballot referendum are clear. In violation of a 1952 Alaska state law, Governor Palin endorsed a "no" vote on a controversial ballot initiative that would involve the the creation of the world's largest toxic lake.

Palin, who left her town of Wasilla $22 million in debt after her run as mayor, despite obtaining $27 million in federal funds -- and appearing 3 times on John McCain's list of egregious pork recipients -- now has trouble remembering that McCain's own campaign chairman has earned millions while lobbying for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Posted by: dpc2003 | October 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

What is she nuts? McCain is tied to fannie mae-freddy mac more deeply that Obama is!!
Has Mccain forgotten who Rick Davis is all of a sudden?
This is the best you have?
Sarah Palin is under investigation for abuse of power as governor and has refused to testify!! So has her husband! And she's throwing stones? The McCain camp is a bunch of nutjobs and liars.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 7, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain's campaign director Rick Davis firm (Davis-Manafort) was paid over $2 Million by Fannie and Freddie. And payments of $15,000 a month continued until August.

Palin. Half-truths. In front of adoring fans. She won't hold any press conferences. She is only capable of spouting memorized rhetoric. Sigh. And people are eating this up.

Didn't anyone learn how to think critically in school?

Posted by: Sidda | October 7, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Palin is such a bad choice for Mccain. I am sorry but the Canadian woman was right. Her only value is to bring in Christian extreem conservatives and the "White Trash" vote.

She talks to GOP rallys as if she is at a AMWAY convention.

Posted by: ArchieHaase | October 7, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Of course Palin's charges are FALSE.

It has never been true. It has always been a LIE.

Everyone who has half a brain already know that this kind of nasty tactic of McCain-Palin is a LIE and has been investigated, rendered FALSE, and debunked many times. But I guess if one has an evil heart, if one is unqualified to be VP and president, and whose campaign is in the toilet; then I guess it's the only thing one can try to dig up. So if they want to focus their attention and energy in this direction, then I hope ALL of the American people will completely reject them.

No weapon forged against you [ Barack Obama] will prevail, and you [ Barack Obama] will refute every tongue that accuses you [ Barack Obama] . This is the heritage of the servants [ Barack Obama] of the LORD, and this is their [ Barack Obama] vindication from me," declares the LORD. - Isaiah 54:17

" I [ God ] will send my terror ahead of you [ Barack Obama] and throw into confusion every nation you [ Barack Obama] encounter. I [ God ] will make all your [ Barack Obama] enemies turn their backs and run." - Exodus 23:27

The Lord will rescue me [ Barack Obama] from every evil attack and will bring me [ Barack Obama] safely to his heavenly kingdom. - 2 Timothy 4:18


The America people will definitely have a real clear choice - to vote for a campaign [ Bush-McCain-Palin ] that focuses on LIES, rather that putting forth an economic plan that will benefit the lives of the America people, and put the country on a better path. Or vote for the ticket [ Obama-Biden ] that has maintained focused on an economic plan and vision to bring prosperity and justice to ALL of the American people and NOT just the wealthy and well connected.

It's time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It's time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It's time for REAL change in Washington, it's time to elect Barack Obama for president !

Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !

Posted by: Obama44thpres | October 7, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

An interview with Greta..... wow she is really stepping out on her own. Sarah Palin has been packaged like a pork butt which has expired.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that Ayers guy sounds really scary. If he truly is a domestic terrorist, why isn't he in Federal prison somewhere? Indications are that he's a distinguished professor at one of the Country's finest universities, and sits on the board of 2 charitable foundations. Do they usually let current or former terrorists hold those types of positions?

Posted by: pax_vobiscum2002 | October 7, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

What, no cries of "Kill him!" from the crowd that Palin then ignored instead of doing the christian thing and denouncing such language? She must be off her game today.

Posted by: cao091402 | October 7, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

John McCain should ask one question to the Amercian people tonight:

My fellow Americans,

Do you feel that it is OK to be friends with a terrorist?

From FDR, to JFK to Reagan, have you heard or like to have your president to be friends with a terrorist?

Posted by: alanguo | October 7, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Very worrisome. But, doggone it, insignificant compared to McCain's dubious associations, starting with tundra trash, secessionist and blithering idiot, Sarah Palin.

Posted by: mnjam | October 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

ccrowley - I think you're confusing Fannie Mae with Sallie Mae. Mind you, the latter is also sniffing around for help.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 7, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I think the quote below is indicative of the level of thought that the McCain/Palin campaign is putting into these talking points/attacks.

"For a campaign that says it's all about the future, our opponents spend a lot of time talking about the past," she said. "They look to the past because that's where you find blame. We look to the future because that's where you find solutions."

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't looking to the past exactly what she's doing when bringing up Obama's loose association with Ayers and the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac guys?

Posted by: ickyinutah | October 7, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I'll rather suggest you to watch that clip about John McCain: Early Improprieties where that slimy corrupt senator from Arizona was trying to force the FCC to vote in favor of a communication company for which he was lobbying.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r-kOIs-W6E&eurl
And you that story also:
Former U.S. Sen. Dennis DeConcini told PolitickerAZ.com Monday that he thinks Sen. John McCain's involvement in the Keating Five scandal of the late '80s and early '90s is fair game as an issue in the presidential contest between the senator from Arizona and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).

...

DeConcini, who said he hadn't seen the full video, said, "The question that should be raised is that McCain's big issue here is that he shouldn't have been at that meeting with the regulators that first time because he had a conflict. He took these three trips that he didn't report and his wife invested $350,000 with Keating," DeConcini said.

"You can criticize rest of us," he said, "but none of us had traveled with or invested with [Keating]."

Posted by: rbduval | October 7, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

The Obamaniacs are frantic now that their messiah is being exposed for his radical alliances by Sarah Palin. These chumps thought they would skip through to the election with no one noticing that their guy is the most left wing, socialist presidential candidate in American history.
If you believe in freedom than don't let this poseur get into the Whitehouse.

Posted by: jbianco28 | October 7, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Sarah has worked with the anti-American Alaska Independence Party for many years, with her husband as a registered member and herself as an "operative" posing as a Republican to infiltrate government.

Their party's anti-American founder said things like "The fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government", and was killed in a "deal gone bad" trying to buy plastic explosives.

Palin's opinion? "Keep up the good work!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

I'm not making this stuff up; you can listen to their Vice Chairman spell it out on video:

"Our current governor, we mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected... to get along and go along — she eventually joined the Republican Party"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NK2sFJebGc

Do we really want an anti-American separatist in the second most powerful position in the country?

Posted by: argh2 | October 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Palin supporters crack me up! They say Obama should know about some fringe group from the sixties (I don't and that doesn't disqualify me from ANYTHING) but Palin does not need to know any Supreme Court decisions. And not even by name! Just the main issue of the decision!

Desperate much, Palin-drones?

Posted by: jbzorg | October 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Poli-tricks of the last resort??!

McPalin is desperate and nothing, not even throwing poop on the "liberal media" or old professors or execs Obama knows, like every politician on the Hill does, is going to deter people from the economic hardships or war concern

I hope the day comes when we don't read about the 15 seconds of fame for Palin.

Posted by: indytucker | October 7, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Well Gov. Palin certainly isn't doing her research as she is rehashing McCain's previous erroneous ad about Franklin Raines being an adviser to Barack Obama. The ad was such a lie that it spurred the media to take a look at McCain's ties to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and it wasn't pretty. McCain's Campaign Manager, Rick Davis took $15,000 a month between 2006 and August 2008 (yes, just a couple of months ago) from Freddie Mac, and then did barely any work for the payment. Davis had been kept on the Freddie Mac payroll because of his close ties to John McCain.I guess fact checking is not Palin's strong suit. Actually, as a History Major, I would have been laughed off the podium and given an F, if I had given a speech like Gov. Palin just did. How insulting to the country that McCain has allowed such low standards to permeate the Republican ticket.

Posted by: sgarney | October 7, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Guess Palin doesn't know that Fannie Mae does more then mortgages. They are also the largest loan carrier for college loans. Maybe Obama was consulting with Fannie Mae executives finding ways more americans can afford to send there kids to college. To benefit the country.

Somebody needs to show Palin the internet has useful tools like wikipedia or google. Not just her myspace page.

Posted by: ccrowley | October 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 7, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Personal attacks, distortions and innuendo. Hate and Fear is all they've got.

Obama's been an open book (two actually) for years. Who is the "real" Sarah Palin and how come she won't to to the Press?? What is she hidding besides the fact that McCain didn't go through a vetting process before picking her as VP. His choice was reckless, impulsive, and dangerous. I don't want his erratic finger on "the button", and certainly don't want hers.

Yikes!

Posted by: thebobbob | October 7, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

If McCain looks into the camera occasionally, and raises the following, he'll win!

The Money Meltdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY&feature=bz301 and www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa0agm711PQ
See who's responsible - in their own words.

Obama/Ayers: Let's not overlook ANNENBERG! They served on the Annenberg board together, overseeing the expenditure of millions of dollars. The records are still "unavailable". Meantime, whenever Obama is criticized he refers to his "fight the smears" website, which cites as its only source of facts, the FACTCHECK.ORG website... which is run by Annenberg! Umm, what does that say about credibility?

Obama/ACORN: ACORN is the very definition of a "community organizer" and the ties between Obama and ACORN are abundant. ACORN has been tied to so much voter fraud that they ought to be investigated under RICO! The tag line to hammer home: ACORN: Where you're never too dead to vote twice!

And the Keating 5 as Obama's response to Ayers???

People forget the outcome of the Keating 5 investigations!


There were 5 Senators investigated. 4 Democrats, and 1 Republican, John McCain. Three Senators were determined to have acted improperly… Cranston (D), Riegle (D) and DeConcini (D). The other two Senators were found to have done nothing improper and received no censure. Senators John Glenn (American Hero & Astronaut) and John McCain (American Hero and POW) were both criticized for poor judgment for attending meetings, but neither was considered to have had significant involvement, and neither was deemed to have committed impropriety, violation of law or violation of Senate Rules.


The 3 Senators censured did not seek re-election and their years in elected office were ended.


Senator John Glenn sought and won re-election, serving until he retired in 1999. Senator John McCain has been re-elected thru his present term and run for the presidency.


Interestingly… Senator DeConcini was later appointed by President Bill Clinton in February 1995 to the Board of Directors of the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation.

Posted by: edeldoug | October 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Why is everything this woman say and do news? She is a complete incompetent and yet the MSM reports every quote every venomous statement she makes. What's sad is papers like The Washington Post know that Sarah Palin's rantings are just lies 99% of the time, I guess that's why the New York Times has stopped posting most of the crap she spews. I guess this is a lame attempt to make the race close again to keep eyes glued to monitors and TV sets. "Palin says...", "Obama says..." This crap is getting really old, let's vote already.

Posted by: jwhite1202 | October 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Distortions bordering on lies - not very Christian.

Repeating them when they have been shown to be incorrect - Christ cringes, he weeps.

It is sad to see so many people who call themselves Christian being so deceitful, divisive, hateful, selfish. They seem to be prepared to do anything to try and get their own way, using any means. Very un-Christian behaviour. Very sad.

Posted by: pdgnz | October 7, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

McSame / Failin are so desperate!! they'll do anything to spew fear and hate...good luck with that and on your way out, say hello to your next President - Barack Obama

Posted by: Bodiethebulldog | October 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The press has not been allowed to ask
Palin questions therefore, we don't know much about her. She said it herself its only been five weeks. However, what we do know of her only makes us ask more questions about her. Palin and her husband has been reported to be members of a Successionist group called the AIP (Alaskan Independence Party.) Todd was in it as late as 2002.) What do they stand for? If it was Obama's wife involved in AIP up until 2002 questions would be raised about her patriotism. Also, in a time when we need to be fiscal responsible, no questions have been asked about Palin leaving a town of about 5,400 in 20 Million dollars worth of debt. Yet she brags on her executive experience. With Alaska having the highest incidents in the country of rapes and murder against woman, again, no questions have been asked. Women being force to pay for rape KITS, may very well have something to do with her stance on abortion, since there is a morning after pill in the box. The press have been used and abused by the McCain Camp. They would rather focus on lipstick and pigs for three days, rather than real issues. McCain brags about suspending his campaign and now is taking credit for getting the bailout bill passed. Obama spoke from the senate floor on the issue. Where was McCain? The press didn't report that McCain voted for pork in the bill after he claimed that he would veto any bill that had pork in it. The media is plain stupid and lazy especially the press corps that follows Palin around on the plane and can't get access. Why don't they threaten to leave like they did at the United Nations, meet and greet, for Palin? The people who are being flimflamed is the public, because like Palin the McCain Camp controls the press.

Posted by: MILLER123 | October 7, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Half truths combined with outright lies, ahhh the sounds of Fall campaigning by the Republicans. Mix in some serious denial and silly chants (drill baby drill)and you got yourself a hit. Serious oil spill in the gulf due to last Hurricane, do big deal. Fear and Smear baby thats the way to unify America Fear and Smear.

Posted by: LogicNotRequired | October 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin is on sticky ground talking about being associated with Fanny/Freddy execs, considering that McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis' company, was on their payroll until August or September at the rate of $15,000 a month or more. I am disappointed that the mainstream media such as this publication hasn't made a bigger deal of it. Talk about a conflict of interest!

Posted by: dnave | October 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

If Obama didn't know about Ayers 1970's associations with domestic terrorists, he's even more unqualified to run than previously thought.

How much money did Obama's supporters siphon out of Freddie and Fannie Mae?

Posted by: NeverLeft | October 7, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

McCain-palin tactics and temperament.
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Dear concerned citizens of America and Mass Media of the U.S.A.
As a concerned registered independent voter, forensic psychiatrist, disabled American I made my decision to vote after taking into consideration following joint tickets attributes and characteristics.

1. Has the ticket shown adequate calmness, coolness, and connectedness's under pressure to lead our nation [Presidential Temperament]?
2. Has the ticket shown sustained sound "Judgment and Caliber"?
3. Has the ticket shown adequate understanding of depth and degree to address the crucial challenges in their their purpose, policies, and positions [ Honesty, integrity and sincerity]?
4. Has the ticket sufficient "understanding and knowledge" of inside Washington workings [Experience]"?
5. Has the ticket reservoir resilience, wisdom, and vigor to address the present and future f our beloved "Great-grand Nation"?
6. Has the ticket enough joint foreign policy experience and exposure based on " Values, Virtues, Vastness, and " [American moral soul]"?
7. Has their campaign talk, slogans, ads, plans, and programs based on facts and are they free of fear, fiction, frivolous labels, unfair attacks, negativity, and impulsively? [No "imminent danger to national
security and safety"].
8. Has the ticket genuinely kept on message of country first and politics last and avoided copying [Message change"]?
9.Has the ticket message stayed away from Culture divide and war[ Disaster prevention ]?
10. Has the ticket resisted being surrounded, supported and surrogate's by divisiveness, distortion's, and destructive characters, [ Real patriotism VS shiftiness and shameless parrot-ism]?
11. Has the ticket thoughtful, real non-partisan, & non-impulsive plans to address our current economic crisis or political tactics and temperamental statements.
I have personally and professionally concluded that OBAMA-BIDEN ticket will lift and inspire our greatgrand nation back to its greatness within and restore our global standing with the use of maximum, firm
international diplomacy and minimal force if and when indicated {" Peace thru Strenght "}.
12. The era of responsibility has to replace irresponsibility and unaccountability will change to accountability and transparency. The Wall Street greed will change to Main Street need.
13. Temperamental and Angry McCain is out to play and create a card mistrust and distress around Obama with the Vail of claim that he will bring bipartisanship in Washington DC. He is destroying him claim every by painting Obama naive. It is tragic, sad, and unfortunate that so called Maverick McCain has already generated a disdain and demeaning face off in the debates and bailout suggestion. Obama is real Presidential and he maintained a smile during the debate and while McCain had a constant grin and disdain towards Obama.
Yours sincerely,
COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret] MD.
Forensic psychiatrist, Disabled American Veteran and Iraq
Freedom team. Grass roots California leader per Senator McCain's
PS: It is sad and unfortunate that Hon, Temperamental and angry Maverick McCain has changed into bitter rather than better man.

Posted by: akhajawall | October 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Fannie and Freddie are not the root cause of the problem. The root cause is that CEO's took al the profits and left their employees with scraps. People needed to borrow what they should have already been paid.
The cost of living grew three times faster than worker pay over fifty years. During the same period, CEO pay increased 25 times. We workers were robbed before we ever got the paycheck.
Palin and McCain are out of touch with this reality.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 7, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Guys, you've been bashing her from Day One. See where it's gotten you? Maybe, if you show her some props, she'll have mercy. -:)Thanks for the forum WP. Vin at www.wegotsarah.com

Posted by: Vinprose | October 7, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I am disappointed with your reporting on Obama's connection with Fannie Mae without reporting that McCain's campaign director Rick Davis firm (Davis-Manafort) was paid over $2 Million by Fannie and Freddie. And payments of $15,000 a month continued until August.

Fair and balanced?

Posted by: richcain | October 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

When Palin going to add sticking out her tongue to her arsenal of facial expressions that have no place in serious discourse?

Posted by: rooster54 | October 7, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Since the Good Governor Palin likes to quote from the NY Times:

From the Tuesday, Oct. 7 NY Times, "Ms. Palin has several times cited a New York Times article published Saturday in raising Mr. Obama’s association with Mr. Ayers, but she has sidestepped its conclusion that the two men did not appear to be close and that Mr. Obama had never expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers."

Posted by: flyfishchef | October 7, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

No mean girls.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 7, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Palin is pathetic. Not to mention an outright liar. I am about the same age as Obama and in 1995 I wouldn't have remembered who Ayers was either even though I would have recalled the vaguely who the Weather Underground was. I am absolutely certain Palin wouldn't have none anything at all about the person or the group. Palin probably would have thought the Weather Underground were TV meteorologists.

Then she continues to lie about Raines. Johnson we'll give her. But more important is she knew who none of these people were until six weeks ago when McCain campaign people started writing the drivel she spews.

Palin is certainly not someone who should be in or near the White House except on public tour. Her moral caliber is painfully obvious, she doesn't have any. She'll say whatever she is told to say whether she understands it or not.

McCain? Well I am totally disgusted with him. So much for an honorable campaign. Desperate acts by a desperate old man.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 7, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin charged rape victims for their exams.

Don't believe it? Watch...

http://nahnopenotquite.com/2008/10/07/sarah-palin-charged-rape-victims-for-exams/

Posted by: nahnopenotquite | October 7, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

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