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Palin Displays Her Feminist Side

Updated 8:41 p.m. to correct NOW-LA reference
By Juliet Eilperin
HENDERSON, Nev. -- Extolling the virtues of equal pay and opportunity for women, this afternoon GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin framed her White House quest in terms of feminist values.

"I have a question for the women in the audience," the Alaska governor began her speech here at the Henderson Pavillion, underneath an arching white tent. "Are you willing to break the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America?"

Palin surrounded herself onstage with two higher-profile defectors from Sen. Hillary Clinton's camp -- Lynn Rothschild, a member of the Democratic Platform Committee, and Elaine Lafferty, a former editor-in-chief of Ms. Magazine -- along with Shelly Mandell, the president of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Organization for Women, Linda Klinge, the vice president of Oregon's NOW chapter and Prameela Bartholomeusz, a small business owner and member of the Democratic National Platform Committee. The L.A. chapter of NOW has endorsed Palin's bid.

And while Palin has spoken repeatedly on the stump about shattering the "glass ceiling" with her candidacy, this afternoon she lashed out at Democratic nominee Barack Obama as a hypocrite who fails to treat women -- including Clinton -- as equals.

"When the time came to make a decision, Barack Obama couldn't bring himself to pick the woman who got eighteen million votes in the primary," Palin said of Obama's vice presidential pick, comparing it to the discrimination women face in the workplace every day. "The qualifications are there, but for some reason the promotion never comes ... You've got to ask yourself, why wasn't Senator Hillary Clinton even vetted by the Obama campaign?"

"Our opponents think they have the women's vote all locked up, which is a little presumptuous," she said, as the crowd's roar of approval drowned her out. "A little presumptuous, and only our side has a woman on the ticket."

Palin went on to suggest Obama discriminated against women employees in his own Senate office, as opposed to GOP presidential nominee John McCain.

"There is a difference between what Barack Obama says and what he does," she declared. "Out on the stump, he talks about things like equal pay for equal work, but according to Senate records, women on his staff get just 83 cents for every dollar that the men get. What is with that? Does he think that the women aren't working as hard? Does he think they're 17 percent less productive?"

"I know one senator who does pay women equal pay," she added, referring to McCain.

Within minutes of Palin's remarks, Obama senior advisor Anita Dunn issued a statement saying, "Senator Obama has fought for equal pay for an equal day's work, while Senator McCain has suggested that women don't get equal pay because they need more education and training. While Senator Obama has proposed a plan to help working women, the McCain-Palin campaign offers just more negative attacks and distortions."

An Obama aide who asked not to identified said that women on McCain's staff earn more comparable salaries to men on staff because they occupy more senior, high-paid posts in the Arizona senator's office, not because Obama discriminates against women.

Like McCain, Palin backs a statute of limitations on equal pay lawsuits like the one exemplified in this year's Supreme Court ruling on the case of Lilly Ledbetter, who sued Goodyear over the fact that her employer had discriminated against her for years without her knowledge.

Instead, she said if elected she would pursue policies such as flexibility in labor laws so women could engage in more telecommuting and would push for a tax code "that doesn't penalize working families."

"Working mothers need an advocate, and they will have one when this working mother is working for all of you," she said, as the crowd cheered.

A former high school basketball player, Palin then launched into a detailed discussion of Title IX, a 1972 law that banned discrimination in any educational program or activity that receives federal financial assistance. The law applies to a broad range of activities, but it has helped ensure high schools and colleges provide equal funding for sports programs and other measures in which men and women participate.

Palin said that she had benefited from Title IX, and for women of her generation, "Over time, that opened more than doors to just the gymnasium. It allowed us to view ourselves, and our futures, in a different way."

While she credited feminists with the enactment of Title IX -- saying, "We owed that opportunity to women, to feminists who came before us" -- Palin quickly emphasized that Americans who embraced a different ideology could also push for gender equality. "A belief in equal opportunity is not just the cause of feminists. It's the creed of our country."

Toward the end of her remarks Palin seemed to echo the theme that Clinton touted as First Lady: that women across the globe deserved the same rights that American women enjoy, including freedom for sex trafficking and honor killings. "If I am elected, these women will have an advocate and an defender in the forty-seventh vice president of the United States," she told the audience.

By Web Politics Editor  |  October 21, 2008; 6:20 PM ET
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Posted by: fu_buki | October 25, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Towards the end of the article is the following sentence:

The law applies to a broad range of activities, but it has helped ensure high schools and colleges provide equal funding for sports programs and other measures in which men and women participate.

Title IX does NOT require "equal funding." It does require equal opportunity. The reality is that the cost for equipment for some sports is much higher than for others.

Posted by: TitleIX | October 22, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

As my brother (the Republican) says, "To every female Hillary Clinton supporter voting for John McCain because he picked Sarah Palin... I'd like to thanks you for proving you're just as stupid and shallow as we hoped you would be."

Posted by: shoemiaw | October 22, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"Intellectuals are overwhelmingly LIBERAL, showing their support for the less fortunate."

Abortion involves wanton taking away of human life, showing lack of support for the most unfortunate of all- the unborn. The ones who can defend themselves the least.

"Who are the real "elitists"???"

Mocking intelligence of those you disagree with on issues IS elitism.

And guess what? Not all intellectuals are Democrats. Only in your mind. Pure elitism there to assume that.

Reasonable people can disagree on issues.

Posted by: Tron4JC | October 22, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Your correction, striking out the Los Angeles chapter of NOW endorsing Palin, is not correct. Their president, Shelly Mandell, DID endorse Palin on 6 October, 2008.
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2008/10/los-angeles-now.html
Now, how about correcting the sentence at the end there, which reads "women across the globe deserved the same rights that American women enjoy, including freedom for sex trafficking and honor killings." I am sure that freedom *for* sex trafficking & honor killings is not deserved as much as you may believe...

Posted by: Loonesta | October 22, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Palin Displays Her Feminist Side.

Oh please.

Posted by: RepublicanVNEraVet | October 22, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"I guess that makes John Stewart a double dweeb. He parrots intellectual left humor and he's rich.

The liberal left depends on the existence of "the poor" and seeks to keep them their. "


Amazing how so many celebrities are rich AND liberal huh? They don't mind paying a little more tax on their ridiculously high salaries to help offset the terrible imbalance in the distribution of wealth in this country. Almost makes them seem HUMAN...

Liberals believe in real solutions for real problems. Ideals are nice to have, but impossible to apply to real world situations. No one LIKES abortion, but there are enough unwanted/abused children in this country already. No one LIKES entitlement programs but cutting them would cause a spike in poverty and crime.

It is easy to disregard your fellow man when you have everything that you need. But imagine that you found yourself in the same position, say due to an unforseen accident or illness. Or better yet, what if you were BORN into those conditions, abused/neglected. The only HUMANE thing to do is to try to improve conditions for EVERYONE. To let greed supersede that is unconscionable...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 22, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

"AgnosticEngineer

Get your facts right. The firing was determined to be valid and legal. They determined it was only a contributing factor , not the main reason for his firing. Plus, the guy admits she never asked him to fire the trooper, it was her husband who QUESTIONED what they were doing about him."


The firing was determined to be WITHIN her powers, but was labeled AN ABUSE OF THOSE POWERS. They were never able to sell the excuse of "other" reasons. So, her assistants and husband demanding that he fire someone doesn't have anything to do with HER opinion, huh? Why'd she fire him then (the Police Chief that is)?


"What kills me, however, is why isn't the press and your focus on why the trooper was NOT fired. He admits to tasering his stepson, was caught drinking on the job and illegal hunting violations, involving firearms."


First of all, THE STEPSON WAS A WILLING PARTICIPANT in the stungun incident. It is being made out to be an attack, but it was deemed to be just a case of poor judgment on the officer's part. The trooper was disciplined for each issue that you mentioned. What Palin wanted was extrajudicial punishment for the trooper...


"I feel the world is upside down, the press goes after Palin for wanting to have this creep fired, and defends Obama's relationship with unrepentant Ayers. Something is very wrong about this picture."


Yes, the problem is that you are delusional. The "creep" was punished for his actions already. Palin wanted to have her personal vendetta leveled on him as well. When denied, she lashed out at someone she could punish.

Obama served on an educational board with Ayers. He was neither a member of Ayers' group nor a participant in their actions decades ago. This is just fear mongering, pure and simple. Fear is a powerful tool that tyrants exploit...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"The rich are typically more "snobby" than intellectuals, because they think they are better than everyone else and deserve special, preferential treatment."

I guess that makes John Stewart a double dweeb. He parrots intellectual left humor and he's rich.

The liberal left depends on the existence of "the poor" and seeks to keep them their.

Posted by: sylviabrowne | October 22, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"John Stewart is a dweeb. He is a comedian who thinks he counts. He just rides the wave of elitist thought in America, which makes him exactly the snob he purports to detest."


Comedy and intelligence, two banes of the Republican party's existence.

The rich are typically more "snobby" than intellectuals, because they think they are better than everyone else and deserve special, preferential treatment.

Intellectuals are overwhelmingly LIBERAL, showing their support for the less fortunate.

Who are the real "elitists"???

I still can't believe so many people in this country vote against their own best interests because they buy into the fear mongering of the wealthy.

Plumber Joe, you are not rich. You are not even licensed. You cannot buy your boss' business, you wouldn't legally be allowed to run it. You also wouldn't be making >$250k/year even if you did. Pull your head out of the clouds and get a clue. You keep voting for the same people that promise a "trickle down" that never comes. How long will you cling to the lies???

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 22, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a feminist because she assumes that being a woman does not immediately disqualify her from a job that needs doing. She acts on her feminsim.

Despite all the screeching from the left, there are millions of us, modern feminists, who do not equate feminism with abortion. It's a new wind of feminism blowing across the country.

Posted by: sylviabrowne | October 22, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"I give him a lot of credit for his brave action, considering he knew what Americans do to women candidates.
Actions speak louder than words."


Actions like leaving your handicapped wife for a young, hot heiress you'd been cheating on her with?

Actions like demeaning women in public, including Chelsea Clinton and his own wife (the young, hot heiress mentioned above)?

Actions like picking a female VP as a political ploy without properly vetting her???

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 22, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

John Stewart is a dweeb. He is a comedian who thinks he counts. He just rides the wave of elitist thought in America, which makes him exactly the snob he purports to detest.

Sarah Palin has guts and smarts and could sink John Stewart's false bravado in a New York urban minute.

We've never actually seen Obama put himself in a challenging situation. He only goes where he is petted.

Posted by: sylviabrowne | October 22, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Sarah is the REAL feminist!

You know, the kind who makes raped women pay for their medical evaluations and then mandates that they carry the rapist's child.

And, btw, Sarah, what does it say about John McCain who could have chosen any one of the following far, far, far more qualified Republican women than you to be on the ticket - Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Ileana Ros Lehtinen, Christie Todd Whitman, Jodie Rell, Linda Lingle, Deb Pryce, gosh, the list goes on and on.

It says he was willing to appoint a corrupt fraud and make a joke of the Presidency just in order to appease the anti-choice, right wing base of the GOP.


Posted by: jaysit | October 22, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

One thing is for sure: McCain never had to run a primary against a woman like Obama did. I suspect he would treat his female adversary half as good as Obama did. Given how his campaign is running now, that's not a stretch.

Posted by: LostInsideTheBeltway | October 22, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"To answer your question, I am sure Palin is aware McCain has more woman and pays them better than Obama. Besides his constant sexist remarks towards Hillary Clinton, and demeaning statement, saying a woman should consult her pastor, family and doctor before having an abortion, he also pays his womaen staffers 73 cents on the dollar, compared to men. We also see how he refused to ask the most qualified candidate, with more votes than him to be HIS VP. The Hillary supporters asked McCain to appoint more woman to cabinet positions. I give him a lot of credit for his brave action, considering he knew what Americans do to women candidates.
Actions speak louder than words"

Does Palin know that McCain has voted against equal rights?

Does Palin know that McCain has made several sexist jokes at the expense of Hillary's daughter and his own wife?

Does Palin know that most women want the right to choose?

These are issues that Palin will overlook because she likes being in the spotlight.

Posted by: Independent4tw | October 22, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

jesse4

To answer your question, I am sure Palin is aware McCain has more woman and pays them better than Obama. Besides his constant sexist remarks towards Hillary Clinton, and demeaning statement, saying a woman should consult her pastor, family and doctor before having an abortion, he also pays his womaen staffers 73 cents on the dollar, compared to men. We also see how he refused to ask the most qualified candidate, with more votes than him to be HIS VP. The Hillary supporters asked McCain to appoint more woman to cabinet positions. I give him a lot of credit for his brave action, considering he knew what Americans do to women candidates.
Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: rrow | October 22, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

AgnosticEngineer

Get your facts right. The firing was determined to be valid and legal. They determined it was only a contributing factor , not the main reason for his firing. Plus, the guy admits she never asked him to fire the trooper, it was her husband who QUESTIONED what they were doing about him.

What kills me, however, is why isn't the press and your focus on why the trooper was NOT fired. He admits to tasering his stepson, was caught drinking on the job and illegal hunting violations, involving firearms.

I feel the world is upside down, the press goes after Palin for wanting to have this creep fired, and defends Obama's relationship with unrepentant Ayers. Something is very wrong about this picture.

Posted by: rrow | October 22, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what Palin would say about McCain's record on equal pay for women.

Posted by: jesse4 | October 22, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

dosomething123 wrote:
"I don't want you to agree publicly if you are a democrat first and I know you will not. I only want you to take a step back and see what happens to a woman that dares to run for the highest offices in this nation."
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First, vilification is unfortunately part of politics. Second it is not that Palin is a woman. It is that she is unqualified. Her history, marginal intelligence and asinine comments is why she is dropping like a rock in the polls.

Posted by: Godhimself1 | October 22, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

AgnosticEngineer,

You kick ass. When are yoiu running for President? You logic is flawless and you have my vote.

Posted by: Independent4tw | October 22, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Nice pander job Sarah, but your boss has voted against equal pay for equal work, and also has a zero rating on womens issues from naral. Ms palin, as the token parrot with female body parts for your ticket - you can't change the facts.

Posted by: notfooledbydistractions | October 22, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"You prove my point. You look down on small town folks the way Obama does with his remarks like they clinged to religion and guns."


It is not about looking down on people, but observing their behavior. Religion and the gun rights are important to a large portion of this country. There is nothing wrong with that, but they are a security blanket of sorts. By focusing on these and not addressing the underlying problems in our country, little progress is made towards solutions.

"And liberals complaining about any woman taking her children with her while she does her job and work? Did my eyes deceive me? LOL"


No, the issue is that she makes the taxpayers pay for her family outings. At my job, I can bring my family along if I have to leave town on business, BUT I have to pay for them. Furthermore, I can't bring them with me to a CUSTOMER'S SITE. These things are unprofessional and improper.


"You simply hate her because she is small town conservative who is given opportunity of a lifetime and took it (remarks about her dream of being VP says it all). Jealousy there."


I don't hate her. I fear her. Not because she is a woman with strong opinions, but because she seems to have a loose connection with reality. She claims to be against government corruption but is abusive with her power and privileges. She claims to be for women but is against women's rights. She claims to be a patriotic American, yet she and her husband have been supporters of an Alaskan secessionist group. And don't get me started on her "previous" churches views, from speaking in tongues to hunting witches...


"You can't take it that she is willing to be humorous and let people make fun of her on SNL."


What does this have to do with anything? They had little option but to play along like it is all an improvisation, rather than mostly direct quotes...


"And abuse of power? And the person she tried to remove is not abusive to his family? Liberals sure are for abusive men when it serves their purposes. lol"


She fired the man who WOULDN'T fire who she wanted him to. A man that DID NOTHING WRONG. The trooper you are referring to was disciplined for all of his actions. The LAW had already JUDGED and PUNISHED him for his actions, BUT DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING WARRANTING A TERMINATION OF HIS EMPLOYMENT. The Police Chief explained this to her and that he wasn't going to do any extrajudicial punishments and SHE FIRED HIM (the police chief). Furthermore, the INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE found her GUILTY of abusing her power as Governor. Ever heard of the expression, "above the law"???

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 22, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

"I for the first time voted for the Republican ticket not because I agree with everything they stand for, but because they have a female on the ticket. Call me stupid, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect it. I already voted.
I want real change not empty promises of change and at the end more of the same."


You are entitled to vote however you choose. For future reference though, remember that ALL politicians are vilified in a political campaign. Look at how the McCain/Palin camp are trying to label Obama a Muslim terrorist. If that's not vilifying someone, I don't know what is.

Obama didn't pick Clinton for a number of reasons. One of which was her negative campaign tactics. She all but sealed her own fate with these. People are tired of the "politics as usual". I would've liked to see an Obama/Clinton ticket too, but the two both have very strong personalities and there was obviously some conflict there.

You should never vote against your best interests out of spite. The Republicans used a political ploy by selecting Palin when Clinton was passed by. Any true feminist will tell you that a vote for Palin is a vote AGAINST women. She is avidly against women's rights and is on record stating that she doesn't believe that there is gender inequality in the workplace. That is, until now, when their support amongst women (and others) is flagging...

Posted by: AgnosticEngineer | October 22, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

To the voter who abandoned all issues to vote for a woman (who is playing second fiddle to an old white guy I might add): way to be a sucker.

Sarah Palin's utter stupidity will either have no effect or more than likely make it harder for women to get elected to office. Hillary lost to Barack because he's an incredibly talented and inspiring politician. Almost universally Barack won in urban counties and Hillary won in rural areas among the less educated - does that strike you as consistent with gender bias? (how about racial bias?) If she were running against a John Kerry, I'm sure she would have won.

It sucks when a candidate you really love loses but don't lose sight of the bigger picture of why you're voting in the first place...

Posted by: Dave48 | October 22, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Democrats courting all Republican and Independent Voters!

Obama’s message rings of a “Beautiful day coming to America” which is similar to Reagan’s “Its morning in america again”

Beautiful day coming to America

U2 - beautiful day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFdpnSu57U

Army general Colin Powell and over 70 retired generals and admirals have endorsed Obama/Biden '08

Hope and Change backed by strength.

Our World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

The Mom Vote
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1197846/4274384

Change we can believe in.

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: cooday | October 22, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I want every woman out there democrat, republican, independent, communist, socialist, EVERY SINGLE one to pause for a moment regardless of party affiliation to take a look at what happened during this election. After more than 27 years since we last saw a female on a vice-presidential ticket, never seen one yet for president, here is how it has been:
Democrats:
Had a female running for president during the primaries. She was villified, she was called every name, she was put down, they made fun of her, she was trashed. She lost the primaries. The winner promised unity but couldn't find another qualified female to run with him.
Republicans:
Have a female running for vice president. She is villified, she is called every name, she is put down, they make fun of her, she is trashed.
Is the same thing happening to Joe Biden? A male politician for more than 30 years who makes stupid comment after stupid comment. After 30 years in politics Joe Biden should be a master politician. Instead at every turn he makes stupid comment after stupid comment. Two come to mind: Hillary was a better choice than me, and the latest, there will be an international crisis within six months of our ticket winning the election.
Palin has been in politics for may be six or seven years, Biden for more than 30. His stupid comments are attributted to Joe Biden can't keep his mouth shut. Palin's stupid comments are becasue she is so stupid. Obama's inexperience, oh well he went to Harvard. Palin's inexperience she is just not prepared to lead this country. Obama's flip flopping, shows he can change his opinion. Palin does the same thing and she doesn't know what she is talking about. Biden's family, haven't heard much about them. Palin's family: has a daughter pregnant, hisband is a loser, etc.

At the end of the day you will vote for who you want to vote. It is your right. After this election articles will be written and books will be sold about this.
If you can't see it, is because you don't want to. In this country it is still a man's world at least when it comes to the biggest political offices.

I don't want you to agree publicly if you are a democrat first and I know you will not. I only want you to take a step back and see what happens to a woman that dares to run for the highest offices in this nation.

I for the first time voted for the Republican ticket not because I agree with everything they stand for, but because they have a female on the ticket. Call me stupid, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect it. I already voted.
I want real change not empty promises of change and at the end more of the same.

Posted by: dosomething123 | October 22, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

To the HRC supporter who had the gall to sit here and talk about "cruelness" towards HRC and Palin, I've got a couple of things to say as a female.

1) It is NOT cruel for me to point out that Palin is the last person on earth to be a spokesperson for women as she displays absolutely NO intelligence. She can't string a sentence together, has no logic, and constantly ATTACKS those of us who actually do have an education.

2) It is not cruel to point out that Palin has abused power, has been an "executive" of a town that is smaller than some high schools in this country and actually still screwed up the budget, that she supports policy that is not helpful to women (healthcare, taxes, education).

Both points are observed facts.

Cruel would be referring to her as a dog - which she herself stupidly does. Cruel would be slamming for her looks (ie - the Republican buttons that refer to her as "hot"). Cruel would be someone beating on her, which has definitely not happened.

So spare me your idea of cruelness and save it for the women who were raped and had to pay for their own rape kits.


Posted by: karstrial | October 22, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Let's face it, she is a net minus for the McCain campaign. Yes, at first "everyone" was excited. My stepdaughter's new fiancee even said she was "hot" when they announced their engagement to her father and me - OMG. But the shiny has worn off and even the most offensive males among us have changed their tune. I'm 53, white, female, Republican, from Tennessee, and a former model - but I was astounded by McCain's pick. What kind of idiot would allow herself to become pregnant at age 43? Kill moose? (What did that moose ever do to her?) Thinks ANY woman can hold down this level of job and have 5 children? Get real, something has to suffer. What if she becomes president? She has become for me the symbol of a desperate campaign. Yes, I'm scared to vote for Obama because I like the personal freedom of having a hand-carry permit. Of course I wonder; of course I'm scared. But I can see no good alternative. The thing we need the very most is unity. I pray that he can deliver that for our country.

Posted by: rosieriveter94 | October 22, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin -- a dickless Cheney

The only thing these formerly Democratic/liberal, women supporters of Palin are proving, is how easily manipulated they are.

And how stereotypical, too.

Wasn't the main thrust of the old, male argument against women's suffrage, in the first place, that women could not -- and should not -- be entrusted with something as weighty as voting, b/c they tend to be swayed by their emotions and hormones?

This piece just proves that the male of the species has no monopoly on asssholes -- that's all.

Posted by: thesuperclasssux | October 22, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, never elect a pretty woman to be in charge.

Palin, come and talk to my 86 yr. old mom and she'll tell you what feminism REALLY means.

You are a very good actress that is being USED by the GOP.

Posted by: lino485 | October 22, 2008 6:28 AM | Report abuse

Palin doesnt even have a style of a woman, she is more on the moose family and these people that trying to compare Hillary Clinton to this idiot from Alaska , Hillary is a very smart woman ,Palin is a disgrace to women

Posted by: capskip | October 22, 2008 6:17 AM | Report abuse

There was one woman heard on a radio talk show, proclaiming her support for Sarah Palin because, in her view, Palin was experienced to lead the biggest economy and two wars, having been a mother of five. What can I say to this wacky rational, except to say that Palin attracts only this type of people who are embarrassing to America.

Posted by: thisworld | October 22, 2008 5:34 AM | Report abuse

Oh, how proud those bitter PUMAS must be, standing behind the woman not as smart as a third grader and trying to delude themselves into the illusion that she's the equivalent of HRC. I hope they have fun out in the desert with their gal pal Sarah ... check this out for a laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTwAGmDLW4M

Posted by: Omyobama | October 22, 2008 4:57 AM | Report abuse

What is feminist about a woman using the protection and services of men based on her appearance and winks and devotion to a patriarchal worldview and politics to hold power in which she fudges on truth just like the men who fudge on their expense accounts and public statement in order to have power? Whose idea of feminism is that? She can hunt, she can kill, she can lie, she can stonewall and she can play attack dog for Daddy McCain who is "So Proud" of her that even Jon Stewart howled, "She's not your daughter!!!." But that's just the role she's played in the campaign. What is feminist about spending around $150,000 on Saks Fifth Avenue for clothes, hair care, and men's fashion to campaign for the patriarchal candidate? Somebody doesn't know their goddess culture, their sacred feminine, their divine feminine, inclusiveness, natural authority, and authenticity. That is feminist.

Posted by: GaiasChild | October 22, 2008 4:31 AM | Report abuse

Q: "Please, give me any sensible statement made by Mrs. Palin"

A: "I'll try to find them and I'll bring them right back to ya"

Posted by: awaler | October 22, 2008 4:18 AM | Report abuse

Of course Lynn Forester de Rothschild is supporting McCain for President.

She is afraid that Obama will put an end to the Bush policies that have benefited a small number of wealthy people at the expense of everyone else.

And she can afford to pay for her own rape kit.

Posted by: HughBriss | October 22, 2008 3:07 AM | Report abuse

Who is Palin to attack Obama or Biden? She has less than a 5th grade knowledge of Civics. Palin stated again on live TV her totally backward notion that the Vice President is in charge of the Senate and can a play a major role making laws in this capacity. This defies the Constitution. Her ignorance of US government is shocking. Even thick-skinned McCain must get heartburn when she broadcasts her for all to see and hear her complete inability to serve in a national office. Many, even on the right, have abandoned McCain over his choice of Palin. In all good conscience they are obliged to reject her candidacy as a potential disaster waiting to happen. Colin Powell is not the least among those who have endorsed Obama at least in part because Palin in high office would be a danger to this country.

Posted by: jeffl240 | October 22, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

"Whoa, the best you pro-Palinists can do is compare Palin to Bill?"

And deserved comparison to those who attack Palin as not feminist and as liar and hypocrite and all that, yet are the first ones to defend Clinton no matter what he did, that was sexist, dishonest, unethical, and so on and so on.

Btw, I am not Republican either. Nor do I plan on voting for either candidate from the two big parties.

But the more the radical wing of the Democrats talk, the more elitist and double standards they appear to be and have. And that just turns me off.

"The hypocrisy and bitter mocking tone is endless, from her dragging her children all over the campaign trail (pathetic), to her small town pro-American comments, to the dumb "I can see Russia" comment, to her endless fingernail screeching about winning the war and coming home victorious, her abuse of power in the North Pole, her tone deaf appearance on SNL, her dreams of VP grandeur, it goes on and on, and there's still two weeks left for her to come up with more Palinisms."

You prove my point. You look down on small town folks the way Obama does with his remarks like they clinged to religion and guns.

And liberals complaining about any woman taking her children with her while she does her job and work? Did my eyes deceive me? LOL

You simply hate her because she is small town conservative who is given opportunity of a lifetime and took it (remarks about her dream of being VP says it all). Jealousy there.

You can't take it that she is willing to be humorous and let people make fun of her on SNL.

And abuse of power? And the person she tried to remove is not abusive to his family? Liberals sure are for abusive men when it serves their purposes. lol


Posted by: Tron4JC | October 22, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

The real question is why Obama (who has less experience than Palin) broke his promise to NOT run for President?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:14 PM

Why did he brake his promise to use public funding? Why do you dwell on things that the American people do not care about? Why do you ask questions that you know the answer to? Why do you constantly focus on the inconsequential?

I think if you could separate the forrest from the trees you would realize what an exceptional human being Barack Obama is but that he is not perfect. His imperfections are simply not as critical as those of John McCain whose greatest flaw was the poor judgement and the brash, self defeating choice of Sarah Palin. That is not only my judgement, it's Colin Powell's judgement and the American people's judgement.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 22, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

For all of those supposed disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters here who keep whining about, well maybe 2012, get over it. If you are really a Hillary Clinton supporter then do what she asks. She knows that even more important than her being president is the gift which will keep giving over and over again should Palin-McCain get elected; Supreme Court appointments.

We aren't just talk Roe v. Wade here either, that will be the least of your worries should more Alito types get appointed. I don't want judges who "legislate from the bench" and I don't want judges with a personal ideological agenda legislating from the bench either.

As for Palin? Well sorry, but just because she is a woman isn't good enough. If she were a man she would have been laughed back to Alaska by now. Giving her a pass for the second highest position in this land is a injustice to all of the women who have worked hard and long who could have been selected. That is sexist in its own right.

She is not qualified and you all know it even if you want won't admit it publicly. If you are truly a Senator Clinton supporter you do Senator Clinton a grave disservice even comparing the qualifications of the two in the same sentence. But I suspect some of you are just paid RNC/Palin-McCain trolls trying to stir it up.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 22, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Whoa, the best you pro-Palinists can do is compare Palin to Bill? Did I read another pro-Palinist waxing away at her goodness and wholesomeness and her pureness of heart? Are you describing Palin, Lindsey Lohan or Ann Coulter? It seems the pro-Palinists can ignore all logic and reason while touting Sarah, who's shown her inadequacy and cluelessness in about a thousand different ways (a number still rising). The hypocrisy and bitter mocking tone is endless, from her dragging her children all over the campaign trail (pathetic), to her small town pro-American comments, to the dumb "I can see Russia" comment, to her endless fingernail screeching about winning the war and coming home victorious, her abuse of power in the North Pole, her tone deaf appearance on SNL, her dreams of VP grandeur, it goes on and on, and there's still two weeks left for her to come up with more Palinisms. What's so sad about all this is that we're this close to End of Days/apocalypse if the unthinkable happens, if she "is so priviledged to serve this great country", I would expect on Nov 5 to see Haley's comet crash into Wash DC, that's how much deep do do we'd be in. OMG.

Posted by: wlai0639 | October 22, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Any definition of "feminist" should at least include supporting the basic rights of other women. But Palin turned her back on other women when, as Mayor of Wasilla, she approved a new policy of making rape victims, rather than the police, pay for the rape kits that were used to gather evidence after a rape. This would ostensibly save the town some amount less than about $14,000 annually. So many people statewide were appalled by this action that the Alaska state legislature passed in 2000 a law prohibiting charging for rape kits anywhere in Alaska. Police Chief Fannon (appointed to his position by Palin) objected, saying "I just don't want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer."

Traumatizing rape victims a second time by making them pay for the gathering of evidence following their trauma is reprehensible, and betrays the very meaning of feminism. To me, it makes Sarah Palin unfit for any position where she has responsibility for the welfare and safety of other people.

Posted by: DHughs | October 22, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

The 'kill him' story turned out false: the secret service investigated and the only person who claimed to have heard it was the reporter who wrote the story.

Palin has done an excellent job in a short time in Alaska. If she can do in Washington what she has done there, with finance reform and energy -- we can all wink back.

Anyway, Hillary can run in 2012. Unless Obama wins, in which case she'd have to prop him up.

Posted by: 1950democrat | October 22, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

I truly hope that "including freedom for sex trafficking and honor killings" is a horrible misquote. Granted I am not surprised, as Ms. Palin is not exactly a doctoral level student. I get the distinct impression that she is preparing for some sort of reality TV series, which is probably a good thing. She is in no way, shape or form prepared to be second in command to a person that is one failed heartbeat away from the grim reaper.

I get it, Hillary trended well, and gosh darn it, Sarah is a woman too! You Betcha! I do find it intellectually insulting that the GOP determined that she was "what is best for the country" Why not a Dr. Rice? Heaven (or your own personal belief system) forbid that we choose an elitist.

My take on the GOP is that they must dislike people with advanced degrees. Seriously, Mr. McCain, 4.0, I don't think so. Ms. Palin, Ivy league education in political science, not so much. Looking good into a camera, AWESOME!!!

Honestly, do we really need to have the low IQ puppets acting on behalf of unregulated industries?

Posted by: linuxxxster | October 22, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

John McCain lost this election the day he picked Sarah Palin. I know a lot of die hard Republicans who will never vote for her. They like to watch her and she is exiting, but they will never vote for her. Ironically it is because she is being promoted too much as the top of the ticket.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 22, 2008 1:21 AM | Report abuse

"Until then, I see someone who finds it appropriate to provacatively wink at a national television audience; someone who lies about what newspapers she reads; someone who bends and twists the truth turning a crowd into a mob; someone who won't admonish a supporter who shouts "kill him.""

Lying is an art form the Clintons perfected, even where sexual predatory behaviour of Bill is involved (among many other lies he told about various scandals he got embroiled in), and how many feminists called them on the carpet for that?

And as the mob story, about the alleged "kill him," sounds more like one more urban legends written about Palin from liberals.

"There's an old saying that applies in this case: "she may be a woman, but she's not a sister.' And, in my opinion, a shameless opportunist."

The mirror is right in front of every feminist who bashes Palin on this. If feminists who support Bill and bash Palin go this route, especially when the key reason is they want abortion, then it says who the real opportunists are.

Posted by: Tron4JC | October 22, 2008 12:38 AM | Report abuse

To those who disqualifed Palin from being a feminist because of her views on pro-life, they might as well disqualify Anthony, Stanton, etc. The earliest feminists themselves saw abortion as murder and found it revolting. In fact, they saw as anti-feminism.

Posted by: Tron4JC | October 22, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

"To the feminists amongst us:
Does the following describe you-
a) inappropriate ethics in trying to get an ex-brother in law fired"

Nice to know feminists are out in force showing sympathy to someone alleged to have been a abuser of his family. That reminds me how easily they closed ranks behind Bill Clinton despite his sexist behaviour towards women.

"b) misappropriation of state funds for personal travel"

And the Clintons don't when Bill was in office as President?


"c) "murder" of defenseless animals"

You play the abortion is legal. We can do better: hunting is legal also.

But nice to know liberals think lives of animals outweigh lives of human beings, especially unborn babies. Human life sure is cheap.

"d) racial slurring of opponents
If it doesn't Palin has nothing to do in your life"

Where is your proof of racial slurring? And, no, questioning Obama on his associations with Ayers is no proof of racial slurring. Try again.

Posted by: Tron4JC | October 22, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

"Religion makes people like Palin blind to the fact that her children are not hers to control."

And abortion makes people like you and abortionists blind to the fact that your and their children are not yours to have absolute control to the point of killing them just because they are still in your womb.

That aside, how did you know Palin forced her daughter to marry the guy? Spare us the false outrage.

Posted by: Tron4JC | October 22, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse


Last paragraph:

... including freedom for sex trafficking and honor killings.

????

Posted by: winnetoo | October 22, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Reading these comments I see woman are their own worst critics, and therefore, enemies.
I was a Hillary volunteer and saw this same cruelness towards her. I just don't get it. You don't see Hillary out attacking another woman.
If woman ever want to be treated with respect and equally, we need to start doing it ourselves. Sarah Palin might not share some of my views, but I can still see she is a self made, accomplished woman. This meme of portraying her as stupid make me sad. She could not have gotten where she was and have the highest approval rating of any governor if she was not intelligent.
It's time for women to start standing up for all women. That is the only way we are going to put enough women in office, which, in turn, will empower ALL women.

Posted by: rrow | October 22, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

...the highest hardest glass ceiling? The one where we elect a clueless bimbo to be President of the United States?

And thanks for asking-why wasn't Sara Palin vetted by the McCain campaign?

Posted by: DaveMiner | October 22, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Everyone gets the wrong point about McCain's vs Obama's staff. It should be, "McCain's staff looks like an Old Women's Club."

McCain hires MORE women and gives them BETTER positions. That should be the story.

Obama's staff is near 50/50. On McCain's the top level is 70% women, and overall there are nearly twice as many women as men.

www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=35972

"Women occupy seven of the top 10 highest-paid positions on McCain's staff, and five of the top 10 highest-paid positions on Obama's staff."
Obama's staff: 30 women to 27 men
McCain's staff: 26 women to 16 men

Posted by: 1950democrat | October 21, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Palin is the best candidate of all four. She has positive attitudes and a big heart, that is exactly what a country needs in crysis. She came into the race unprepared, unlike other three, so it is understandable that she has less knowledge about politics. However, she quickly learns and improves day by day. Some show disrespects of her only reflect the illness that the country has, knowing little laugh at knowing less. The best example of Katie couric interview of Palin showed how the host thought of herself better than the whole world, only revealed how poor knowledge herself. You do not ask a chemistry question of a mathematics professor, if you did, if the professor could not answer, it did not tell how intelligent you are, people would say you ask a wrong question.

For a political process to be a good one that people are benefit from it, the process should be fair and people should be informed. Personal attacks at Palin are not right and full of unfortunates. On the other hand, Palin takes it very well, she is a typical american woman with kindness to forgive and pay little time to retaliate. Imagine what would happen if the attacks were on other candidates?

Less knowledgable is not less intelligent. Knowledge can be gained with time and learning. No one has the knowledge to lead the country, on one is prepared for the president. It is a team, not an indivisual, govern a country.

Therefore, character is the most important factor to be a great leader. Openess and optimistic are two most important elements of character. Palin has both.

We all come from bare minded, we all are given chances to improve, so why Palin should not be given the chance?

Stop laughing at her. She is an american and she is running for a vice president of the country and she is a governer now, should we show respects of her? To tell the truth, she is much better than anyone here making comments, and she is much able than anyone who interviewed her.

Posted by: tomfr07 | October 21, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Bravo for Sarah!

She's right about the glass ceiling. One thing we can get out of the fiasco of the Democratic primary: helping Sarah smash the glass ceiling might show Obama and the other sexists not to pull what they pulled against Hillary again.

Turn down Hillary as 'Annie Oakley' -- and you'll get a smaller-town woman with a BIGGER gun.

Posted by: 1950democrat | October 21, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

This sort of tokenism is degrading, and the notion that women will be swayed by it is both stupid and insulting.

Posted by: smbrinich | October 21, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

You left wing loons are silly little folks.
It's apparent by your rabid disgusting posts.
What you DON'T realize is that Republicans, Independents, Libertariansnand even (oh no) Democrats!! are going to vote McCain -Palin.
The polls are skewed and WRONG.

GO JOE BIDEN-
Keep telling the American people that we are a target- because Obama is so inexperienced.
We're lovin it GAS (GAFFE BAG)
Hey- can we hire this guy?
He is the perfect NOBAMA.

Posted by: CoolPillow | October 21, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Warning! Liberal bitter so called feminists below.

Amazing how nasty women can be.

Pisses you off when your "den" is threatened.

Palin Power.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

WHAT AN IDIOT!

Posted by: fu_buki | October 21, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Please, Washington Post, get a grip! Palin is no feminist. Her mentions of equal pay and glass ceiling breaking are just more rabble rousing.

I may change my mind if someone can tell me how Palin has improved life for women in Alaska. Affordable child care, good education, accessible health care for women and children, training opportunities? How has she used her influence to improve life for women in the last two years?

Until then, I see someone who finds it appropriate to provacatively wink at a national television audience; someone who lies about what newspapers she reads; someone who bends and twists the truth turning a crowd into a mob; someone who won't admonish a supporter who shouts "kill him."

There's an old saying that applies in this case: "she may be a woman, but she's not a sister.' And, in my opinion, a shameless opportunist.

Posted by: berrysnadine | October 21, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Conservative journalist David Brooks decried Palin's anti-intellectualism and compared her to President Bush in that regard:

She bragged that she got a D in macro-economics, so her constituents would be comfortable with her being as dumb as they are, even though she got thru college in 6 years.
The typical voter education
in Alaska = NOT A HIGH SCHOOL GRAD.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 21, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Palin got one vote (McCain) and the only vision I know of from her is her view of Russia.
Posted by: thenotoriousflavio |
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Actually Russia is 100's of miles further from her house than New York is from Chicago.

PALIN has NEVER seen Russia.

She got two votes. McCain, and Karl Rove, who actually picked her.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 21, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

hhkeller spewed: "Obama and his online mob are sexist."

No. Palin demeans women by playing the victim. Which is a vile act within it's self. A REAL woman of strength and dignity would NEVER label legitimate critism as sexist. You're being led down a very dangerous road by her. Be careful.

When Palin plays the victim (as she has been--EXCESSIVELY) She invites attacks of all sorts and distracts people from the issues by making the conversation about her instead of what really matters.

Obama's campaign is very careful to stay away from Palin because she is her own worst enemy. She is either too self-serving or too stupid to realize it.

That being said:

PALIN=BUSH IN A SKIRT (no pun or sexism intended)

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Side Show Barbie is a deranged psychopath!


Palin just claimed that the vice president is "in charge of the U.S. Senate."


In an interview with KUSA in Colorado, Palin responds to the following question:
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Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, "What does the Vice President do?"

PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! ... [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.


The corporate media should be all over this story. Palin made a major gaffe in her V.P. debate when she announced vice presidential powers that are not outlined in the Constitution, and which reflect the will of Dick Cheney. She demonstrated herself to be not a student of history, but a student of neo-conservatism.


This is no longer an issue of whether Palin is smart enough to be vice president. It is becoming all too clear that she is the empty vessel through which neo-conservatism wants to live and breathe in the White House for another four years.


Palin's unabashed ignorance is certainly breathtaking. But people already know that she is ignorant on any number of critical domestic and foreign policy issues. People now need to understand that she is a dangerous public figure who, if unchecked, will further weaken our federal government's balance of power, and thus will create a system that undermines one of the key principles of our Constitution.


Here's some more mavericky straight-talk, my friends:
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http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/21/palin-vp-senate/
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 21, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Conservative journalist David Brooks decried Palin's anti-intellectualism and compared her to President Bush in that regard:

[Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley. And Buckley famously said he'd rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty.

But he didn't think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservative side who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. And his whole life was based on that, and that was also true for a lot of the other conservatives in the Reagan era. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas.

But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I'm afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 21, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain's only chance now is to win Pennsylvania.
Hold your breath until you explode. LOL!

_________________________________________

Well, Otto, let's hope some of those bitter, religous gun toting Pennsylvanian's were listening to Obama when he described them to his supporters in San Fran.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA BIDEN 08...!!!

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 21, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Most of the bloggers live at home with mom but attack women every chance they get.
The DNC showed it's true face this year.

Posted by: hhkeller

helen Keller: if you are blind how can you tell if we DEMs are in our mom's houses?
Can you see Russia from your computer?
LOL!
My mom is dead, actually. But yes, I am a socialist, commie sympathizer, and very un-American, and my pals are Muslim terrorists.
But I vote. We are winning Helen. electoral votes.
McCain's only chance now is to win Pennsylvania.
Hold your breath until you explode. LOL!

Posted by: ottothewise | October 21, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Palin supporters have hijacked the GOP, and it is now the extremist radical violent hate klan. Watch the membership continue to drop. No one wants to be like these extremist haters. No one wants to be associated with the lying and hate and anger of these radical violent people who yell KILL HIM at rallies. Watch the flight out as moderate Republicans LEAVE the extremist GOP.

Let's hope all of those new polls are correct---Obama's numbers are climbing again. It will be such a pleasure to send palin and her redical hate views back home. Good riddance.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 21, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

In the movie "MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON" Jimmy Stewart plays a character named "Jefferson Smith" .... he takes over the Senate through a marathon filibuster, finally bringing reform to halt government corruption.

The sequel: "MRS. PALIN GOES TO WASHINGTON"

Posted by: MarkInAustin

Sorry Mark, in the Palin version she goes to prison for her repeated uses of Yahoo to avoid the Freedom of Information act and for making her supervisees use Yahoo to avoid the freedom of information act.

This yahoo business is a 2nd instance of abuse of power, making her employees break state statute's.
She's going to be impeached.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 21, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama and his online mob are sexist.
Most of the bloggers live at home with mom but attack women every chance they get.
The DNC showed it's true face this year.

Posted by: hhkeller | October 21, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Do ANY women really fall for manolete's ravings?

Obama 'mugged' Palin? Really?

STOP THE LIES, and please stop reposting the same lies.
This lie has been repeated for weeks by you.

Oh, I forgot, you are in the Nazi school of propaganda, lie and repeat the lie, the bigger the lie, repeated the most.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 21, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Actually, conservative Republicans can sum up Palin far better than moderates...this tidbit is from the ultra conservative bastion Wall Street Journal...last week:


In the end the Palin candidacy is a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics. It's no good, not for conservatism and not for the country. And yes, it is a mark against John McCain, against his judgment and idealism.

WELL SAID, WSJ!

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 21, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

What I am saying, Mark, is what the Republican party members were saying...she was NOT properly vetted:


CNN report---NOT refuted by Mccain campaign:
McCain met Palin in person once, at a National Governors Association meeting in February 2008, and spoke with her by phone on another occasion two days before bringing her to Arizona to offer her a spot on the GOP ticket.


(09-06) 08:04 PDT Anchorage, Alaska (AP) --

John McCain's presidential campaign did not speak with the Alaska House speaker and other leading Republicans before McCain tapped Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.


At the least, Republicans close to the campaign said it was increasingly apparent that Ms. Palin had been selected as Mr. McCain’s running mate with more haste than McCain advisers initially described.

Up until midweek last week, some 48 to 72 hours before Mr. McCain introduced Ms. Palin at a Friday rally in Dayton, Ohio, Mr. McCain was still holding out the hope that he could choose a good friend, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut, a Republican close to the campaign said. Mr. McCain had also been interested in another favorite, former Gov. Tom Ridge of Pennsylvania.

Although The Washington Post quoted advisers to Mr. McCain on Sunday as saying Ms. Palin had been subjected to an F.B.I. background check, an F.B.I. official said Monday the bureau did not vet potential candidates and had not known of her selection until it was made public.

DIDN'T YOU READ THE NEWS? THE VETTING WAS ALMOST NON-EXISTENT.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 21, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't mean to disrespect her, nor her beliefs. I just don't want them determining the future for me, my family, or my country.

Posted by: wstprof | October 21, 2008 9:58 PM

Then VOTE OBAMA in 08, because Palin has come out for a national law to cover each element of her Biblical social agenda.
She said specifically she opposes states rights on cultural issues, knowing that 'liberals' in some states will allow civil rights to all the humans in their regions.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 21, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

That reminds me...

Whatever happened to McCain's "Obama the celebrity" schpeal?

Oh yeah! Palin's the celeb now.

No! Mustn't hurt the Precious [Palin]!

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

thenotoriousflavio,

You truly do have a sardonic wit. Thanks for the laughs. We'll need more of them before this election is over.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 21, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

MarkInAustin eructated: "..Obama lets Biden speak on his own(you saw what happened Sunday night)?"

Yeah, but Palin is a celebrity and she gives good gaffe. Much better than Joe.

I'm waiting for Palin's celebrity "private sex video" to come out-- all the celebs are doing it!

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I'll paraphrase Gloria Steinem here: Feminism is not about getting one individual woman to the top. It's about advancing an agenda that is positive for all women. In this regard, Palin's proposed agenda is a clear step backwards.

Let's take her stance on equal pay (statute of limitations . . . funny, both of the two private companies I've worked for in my lifetime have had official policies against discussing your salary with coworkers. Exactly how is one supposed to figure out they're being underpaid???)

Or how about reproductive choice (and I'm not just talking about abortion here. Come on, if she were really serious about wanting a decrease in abortions, which I think folks on boths sides want, why wouldn't she support comprehensive sex education and access to contraceptives??? For her it's not about ensuring women's health, it's about advancing a conservative moral agenda . . .)

I don't mean to disrespect her, nor her beliefs. I just don't want them determining the future for me, my family, or my country.

Posted by: wstprof | October 21, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

AidArmenia posted: "Nancy Reagan - even with her broken hip - would make a better Vice President than Sarah Palin."

Heck! Nancy Reagan's broken hip would make a better VP than Palin.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

raven222, like Obama lets Biden speak on his own (you saw what happened Sunday night)?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

hchiba, don't tell me you support NAMBLA and want San Francisco to legalize prostitution too?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

The clearest way to demonstrate Sarah Palin, the feminist, would to honor her demands to speak on her own, to campaign on her own, to give input to the McCain campaign. If she has not made this demand, she is not a feminist and/or not qualified to be VP of the US.

Posted by: raven222 | October 21, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

According to Biden, there will be an international crisis in 6 months if Obama is elected. World leaders want to test Obama's experience. Let's hope Obama won't fail the test!

Posted by: nononsense3 | October 21, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Palin says..."You've got to ask yourself, why wasn't Senator Hillary Clinton even vetted by the Obama campaign?"

Dear SARAH. CLINTON RAN FOR THE OFFICE FOR A YEAR.
That's vetting. Her husband was actually president. THAT's vetting.

Between BIll's personal corruption, and Clinton's confession during the campaign that she lost in Texas because she didnt understand the process in Texas, we all got to see enough to make an informed decision.
OBAMA saw her in action for a year. Look up the word VETT:
to appraise, verify, or check for accuracy, authenticity, validity We VETTED Clinton. She did not meet the standards of the Obama campaign.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 21, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Only religious zealot's would force a daughter (18 yrs) into early marriage with her boyfriend (18 yrs). Sad and ridiculously backward. Is N.A. just another über-moralistic hinterland ... or what?

Under Palin's ultra conservative, family-tutelage her poor children get no sex education, nor do they take birth control pills - they get pregnant & are married off.

Perhaps to a girl growing up sheltered (and indoctrinated?) in a controlling family or in a small town (Wasilla, Alaska) marriage at 18 sounds romantic, but life can be long & boring with the wrong partner.

A beau at 18 may not be the right person at 28. Palin has robbed her girls of having the freedom to live their own life.

I'm against early (forced) marriage. Religion makes people like Palin blind to the fact that her children are not hers to control.

Posted by: hchiba | October 21, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

MarkInAustin eructated: "just wait until she becomes the PRESIDING OFFICER of the U.S. Senate."

Now your just being scary.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Palin has come out against states rights. That means she supports using federal law to make one set of laws based on her BIBLICAL interpretations of culture, sex, and civil rights.

VOTE OBAMA in 08 and end the BIBLE wars before she gets in office.


Posted by: ottothewise | October 21, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

saj_pratt, just wait until she becomes the PRESIDING OFFICER of the U.S. Senate.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

MarkInAustin mused:

"chlind, I voted for our current President twice. I will vote for Palin too. I guess that means I have no "reasoning skills" either?"

Ok, ok UNCLE! You've got me on this one, I'll fall for the trap.

BINGO!

Posted by: wes1155 | October 21, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

sallieismydog, McCain met with Palin back in MARCH of 2007. She was fully vetted. He even says that Palin was his "first choice." So, you were saying?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Unwittingly, Palin does more harm than good in trying to champion womens causes.

Here is a womens rights activist that claims she has 'foreign policy experience' because her state is near to Russia and Canada, yet cannot name Canada's prime minister or Russia's ambassador to the USA.

She does more harm to women than she could ever imagine just by opening her mouth. Amazing.

Posted by: saj_pratt | October 21, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

If your daughter is walking to her car one night at high school, accosted, beaten and raped.....becomes pregnant..
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ok, I heard enough. Give me a break, don't you get it that Palin is not going to try and overturn Roe Vs Wade. Newsflash, that won't ever get reversed, if anything it will move to the state decisions.
It her personal belief in pro-life. She takes a stand for PRO_LIFE.
I will say it again....PRO_LIFE

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

MarkInAustin spewed: "I could care less what John Edwards, or Sarah Palin, spent. Better for the economy, in my opinion."

Well, with THAT argument, you just must be THRILLED that all those Wall St robber barrons are walking away with those golden parachutes--they'll SAVE the economy with their spending!

Wake up and smell the reality.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Mark - No, you're just a slow learner. Hopefully, you'll figure it out by 2012.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | October 21, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse


Palin says..."You've got to ask yourself, why wasn't Senator Hillary Clinton even vetted by the Obama campaign?"

Gee Sarah....we gotta ask ourselves WHY YOU WEREN'T VETTED FOR THE JOB?" Because if mccain has spent more than 20 minutes talking with you or if he had had an investigation done of you, YOU NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD HAVE BEEN SELECTED.

Palin does not seem to realize what the rest of the REPUBLICAN PARTY does.....that she has COST JOHN MCCAIN THIS ELECTION.

Oh, and isn't it interesting that Hillary clinton, obviously Palin's hero and role model, is 1000% in favor of Obama's election....

Palin shows us every day why she is unfit to hold any public service position. Lets hope her Saturday Night live gig works out for her in the longrun.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 21, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

chlind, I voted for our current President twice. I will vote for Palin too. I guess that means I have no "reasoning skills" either?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not a feminist! She is someone who has no reasoning skills. Her depth of knowledge is very shallow, but she is someone who is very good at spitting out talking points. She also seems to have no curiosity about the world around her. In short, she reminds me of our current president.

Posted by: chlind | October 21, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I could care less what John Edwards, or Sarah Palin, spent. Better for the economy, in my opinion.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palinbot Warns Of A Rising Socialist Menace....Unless It Benefits Her!


Palin is practicing the GOP strategy (campaign stunt) of Divide & Flail™, accusing Barack Obama of practicing "socialism" (whatever that means to her):
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADqHwfNxXVE
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But while Palin rages against so-called socialism, welfare, and redistribution of wealth...I don't think I hear her complaining about the Alaska Permanent Fund, a government program that distributes oil revenues to all non-felon Alaska residents.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund
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Here's the income she received from the fund as reported on her 2006 and 2007 tax returns:
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http://www.johnmccain.com/palinfinancial/
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 21, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

MarkInAustin spewed: "monk4hall, is there something illegal about that? [referring to $150l on Palin's wardrobe]"

Not illegal. Just puts the John Edwards haircut thing of 2004 to shame.

BTW: Most Americans are sick of the "IS IT ILLEGAL" argument weilded by the Right over and over again.

Criminals do what they do cause they think they could get away with it.

Pushing the law to it's limit in order to get what you want is the same thing. Just because you got away with it (legal or not) doesn't make it right. I of course refer to the BUSH/CHENEY/ROVE administration.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

If your daughter is walking to her car one night at high school, accosted, beaten and raped.....becomes pregnant.....Palin will do everything she can to make sure your daughter is FORCED TO TAKE THE PREGNANCY TO FULL TERM. Neither YOU, the parent, nor your DAUGHTER THE VICTIM, WILL GET A CHOICE under Palin's hardcore rules of what is "GOOD" FOR the country and for HER choice.....you will get no choice.

This woman is nothing but a zealot political opportunist and DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES.

Her views are shallow, narrow, arrogant and self-important. She makes NO effort to be informed or thoughtful---she simply does what robotic "sound byte" politicians do....talk...and not very well unless she is reciting a political mantra.

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 21, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Careful posting that on multiple threads, or someone is going to accuse you of being a "paid RNC troll."

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

monk4hall, is there something illegal about that?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

I am sitting at home, typing this. Is there somewhere I can get paid?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

The Republican National Committee appears to have spent more than $150,000 to clothe and accessorize vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her family since her surprise pick by John McCain in late August.

According to financial disclosure records, the accessorizing began in early September and included bills from Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York for a combined $49,425.74.

The records also document a couple of big-time shopping trips to Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, including one $75,062.63 spree in early September.

The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.

Politico asked the McCain campaign for comment, explicitly noting the $150,000 in expenses for department store shopping and makeup consultation that were incurred immediately after Palin’s announcement. Pre-September reports do not include similar costs.

Posted by: monk4hall | October 21, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

wes1155, are you saying that garygelormino and I are paid to post here?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

National Organization for Women

Correction- only women who share your views.

Ms.Gandy you need to change the name of your organization. I applaud Ms.Mandells right to freedom of speech and CHOICE.
:-)

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, I forgot another sure sign of paid RNC/Palin-McCain trolls, they post the exact same copy and paste nonsense on all the blogs regardless of whether it is germane to the topic or not. Poor trolls, 14 more days and they are out of work.

Let's see...I count three or four of them on line at the moment. Remember, they are vying for your response so they can increase their earnings.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 21, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

monk4hall, that may have been the modern role of Vice Presidents, but all bets are off when MRS. PALIN GOES TO WASHINGTON. Ted Stevens will show her around just fine.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a Pseudo-Feminist

The right is trying to fabricate this new feminist paradygm to steal feminism from the Democrats.

It's just a cover for the Anti-Choice agenda.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse


Palin asked AGAIN the duties of a vice president. And AGAIN, she doesn't know ....

In response to a question sent to a local new network by a third grader at a local elementary school about what the Vice President does, Palin erroneously argued that the Vice President is “in charge of the United States Senate“

Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”
PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

WRONG. VERY WRONG.

Article I of the Constitution establishes an exceptionally limited role for the Vice President — giving the office holder a vote only when the Senate is “equally divided”:
"The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no vote, unless they be equally divided."
Moreover, the U.S. Senate website explains that the modern role of Vice Presidents has been to preside over the Senate “only on ceremonial occasions.” ThinkProgress contacted Senior Assistant Paliamentarian Peter Robinson, who also disputed Palin’s characterization of the Vice President’s role:
"In modern practice the Vice President doesn’t really control the Senate. … If anyone has a responsibility to try to govern the Senate, it’s the responsibility of the two leaders."

JESUS!

Posted by: monk4hall | October 21, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

KimGandy, why don't you kick Shelly Mandell out then? Are you sure the local L.A. chapter didn't vote to endorse McCain-Palin? Did you allow a vote on the national level before endorsing Obama-Biden?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Jaxxon posted "Oh God, and now we find out that the RNC has spent 150 THOUSAND FREAKIN DOLLARS since September assembling Palin's wardrobe. You couldn't make this stuff up."

three letters:

WMD


They could make up a whole war.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is smart enough to know that being a woman can be an advantage. There is a huge amount of publicity about Sarah Palin and she’s definitely no typical woman. Yet there is a lot about her that people don’t know about. Dailysource.org has a lot of evidence on Palin’s current political views and actions, which presents her high and low career points as Alaskan Governor. Go to http://dailysource.org/palinvideos to see it.

Posted by: timahovan | October 21, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama fights “for equal pay for an equal day’s work” but does not practice it himself. Why I am not surprised, because Sen. Obama is a hypocrite. By the way, take a look at Gov. Palin’s great interview on My9 TV station:
http://www.my9tv.com/index.php?videoID=0">http://www.my9tv.com/index.php?videoID=0">http://www.my9tv.com/index.php?videoID=0

Posted by: Wiel | October 21, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Palin gives Good Gaffe:

Palin apologizes for patriot 'pro-America areas' comment

That's all we need. Another Republican who wants to divvy-up America.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Seems I struck a nerve with a paid RNC/Palin-McCain troll. Oh well, the truth hurts some times.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 21, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

CORRECTION: The LA Chapter of NOW has most certainly NOT endorsed Gov. Palin, and it is irresponsible run such a statement. The National Organization for Women (NOW) has endorsed Barack Obama and Joe Biden as the ticket which stands for women's rights.

The next morning after Sarah Palin was named, I said on behalf of NOW: "Sen. John McCain's choice of Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his running mate is a cynical effort to appeal to disappointed Hillary Clinton voters and get them to vote, ultimately, against their own self-interest," and that has not changed.

NOW's statement on Sarah Palin appears at www.now.org/press/08-08/08-29.html and our endorsement of Obama/Biden is at www.nowpacs.org/obama

Kim Gandy, President
National Organization for Women

Posted by: KimGandy | October 21, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!

Women must unite against the liberal media vicious, sexist, cruel, demeaning, contemptuous UN-AMERICAN, unfair, unprofessional, unrelenting and blatantly biased treatment against Vice President Sarah Palin and acting blatantly in favor of Barack Hussein Obama during this unprecedented historic quest for the presidency!

Barack Hussein Obama claims a mightier throne, one forged in liberal ideals of justice and equality and hope, BUT he has benefited mightily from sexism in this campaign, and has remained silent. Obama supporters seem very happy with the sexist way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by Sarah Palin, and many believe that most of the "venom" in the campaign is coming from supporters of Obama.

Women of America Unite in this defining moment in American history. To ensure we can grow up from the male dominated government that has caused many of the problems our country is facing; to a country where men and women are equal partners in governance.

Women of America Unite
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!
VOTE for McCain/Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 21, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

In the movie "MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON" Jimmy Stewart plays a character named "Jefferson Smith" .... he takes over the Senate through a marathon filibuster, finally bringing reform to halt government corruption.

The sequel: "MRS. PALIN GOES TO WASHINGTON"

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

RNC appears to shell out $150K for Palin fashion

Jeanne Cummings

The Republican National Committee appears to have spent more than $150,000 to clothe and accessorize vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her family since her surprise pick by John McCain in late August.
According to financial disclosure records, the accessorizing began in early September and included bills from Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York for a combined $49,425.74.
The records also document a couple of big-time shopping trips to Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, including one $75,062.63 spree in early September.
The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.
Politico asked the McCain campaign for comment, explicitly noting the $150,000 in expenses for department store shopping and makeup consultation that were incurred immediately after Palin’s announcement. Pre-September reports do not include similar costs.
Spokeswoman Maria Comella declined to answer specific questions about the expenditures, including whether it was necessary to spend that much and whether it amounted to one early investment in Palin or if shopping for the vice presidential nominee was ongoing.

Posted by: monk4hall | October 21, 2008 8:42 PM | Report abuse


Discovers her feminist side indeed:

RNC appears to shell out $150K for Palin fashion

Jeanne Cummings

The Republican National Committee appears to have spent more than $150,000 to clothes and accessorize vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her family since her surprise pick by John McCain in late August.
According to financial disclosure records, the accessorizing began in early September and included bills from Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York for a combined $49,425.74.
The records also document a couple of big-time shopping trips to Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, including one $75,062.63 spree in early September.
The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.

Posted by: monk4hall | October 21, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

"She will do anyone . . ."

Spoken like a true feminist, hdtex1. Thankfully, every one of us has an equal vote in the matter. I say we send her to be the next Presiding Officer of the U.S. Senate.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

AP documents Palin committing income tax fraud with bogus reimbursements for her kids' travel expenses. WaPo silent, of course.

Posted by: dime_dropper | October 21, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Or, wes1155, that's just your sorry little excuse when YOU don't want to actually answer relevant questions.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Just because she has a vagina does not make her a feminist.

This woman's lack of morals is truely appalling.

She will do anyone, say anything to get a head.

Send her back to Alaska.

Disgusting.

Posted by: hdtex1 | October 21, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

CynthiaD1,

Paid trolls also are easy to spot because the post the same copy and paste nonsense over and over. Just in case you are wondering why some people do that on these blogs.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 21, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

CynthiaD1,

Trolls get paid extra when people respond to their posts. Now you know.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 21, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

"Meet the Press" October 22, 2006:

(after going to the videotape)

MR. RUSSERT: You will not.

SEN. OBAMA: Well, the—that was how I was thinking at that time. And, and, you know, I don’t want to be coy about this, given the responses that I’ve been getting over the last several months, I have thought about the possibility. But I have not thought it—about it with the seriousness and depth that I think is required. My main focus right now is in the ‘06 and making sure that we retake the Congress. After oh—after November 7, I’ll sit down and, and consider, and if at some point, I change my mind, I will make a public announcement and everybody will be able to go at me.

MR. RUSSERT: But it’s fair to say you’re thinking about running for president in 2008?

SEN. OBAMA: It’s fair, yes.

MR. RUSSERT: And so when you said to me in January, “I will not,” that statement is no longer operative.

SEN. OBAMA: The—I would say that I am still at the point where I have not made a decision to, to pursue higher office, but it is true that I have thought about it over the last several months.

MR. RUSSERT: So, it sounds as if the door has opened a bit.

SEN. OBAMA: A bit.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

What *do* Lynn Rothschild, Elaine Lafferty, Sherry Mandell, Linda Klinge, and Prameela Bartholomeusz think of their candidate McCain's air quotes around term "a mother's health." Are they anti-choice (even in cases where a mother's health is in danger) or are they incredible hypocrites?

Posted by: multiplepov | October 21, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

But why would BO select a person who was part of the government that got us into an unnecessary and costly war? A war that Obama opposed in 2003?

_________________________________
That wasn't the question though....Would you support his ticket still if he chose Condi Rice for VP?

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I suspect that you're trying to get at something but I'll give you this answer. I would have qualms about the sanity of a candidate who chooses a running mate with foreign policy views that are a 180 degrees in opposition to his. I wouldn't vote for such a candidate

Yours is a hypothetical scenario of the most outlandish and improbable sort.

Posted by: CynthiaD1 | October 21, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Palin a feminist? Please! Does the bimbo take us for idiots?

She would be hard up even explaining what the word means!

She's just reciting talking points again - with no understanding of what they mean.

Sarah Palin, you are no Hillary Clinton!

Posted by: palmatrunzo | October 21, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Oh God, and now we find out that the RNC has spent 150 THOUSAND FREAKIN DOLLARS since September assembling Palin's wardrobe.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

Posted by: Jaxxon | October 21, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Gov. Sarah Palin in her statement ""Are you willing to break the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America?" I even wrote a graduate term paper on the glass ceiling issue. However, the main issue here is not only feminism, but the cruelty of animal abuse. Most of the women I know are animal protectionists. To abuse innocent animals is totally unacceptable. There is even a Facebook group condemning Gov. Palin's atrocious hunting:

For everyone who loves animals and believes they should not be:

-Shot for fun from a helicopter
-Displayed as a dead rug
-Taken OFF the Endangered Species List to drill for oil
-Worn around your neck...

If the McCain/Palin ticket wins, Gov. Palin must stop abusing animals, and represent all of us who detest abusing innocent living beings.


My blog is: http://maruangarita.blogspot.com/

Posted by: MaruAngarita | October 21, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

In the movie "ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE" Jimmy Stewart plays a character named "George Bailey"....George has an angel named Clarence.
Clarence informs George that..."Everytime someone rings a bell...an angel gets its wings"
Every time a right wing nut neocon republican nazi posts a negative comment and lies about Obama..."He's a Muslim" ..."He wasn't born in America".."He's a terrorist"....Obama recieves another 100 votes.
Neocon nazis are urged to TYPE FASTER...
....These fools are handin out wings...hahahahahaha

CHA-CHING....CHA-CHING....CHA-CHING....

Look folks, these idiots are handing out wings......

CHA-CHING...CHA-CHING...CHA-CHING......

hahahahahahaha.......ahahahahaha....hahahaha
Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 21, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Is it O.K. for Obama to break his promise just because Russert died?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

"Meet the Press" January 22, 2006:

MR. RUSSERT: There’s been enormous speculation about your political future, Senator. The man you succeeded in the Senate, Peter Fitzgerald, a Republican, said this recently. “I think there’s a very good chance that Senator Obama is on the Democratic ticket in 2008 as the vice presidential nominee.” Do you agree?

SEN. OBAMA: No. You know, I can’t speculate on those kinds of things. What I have said is that, you know, I’m not focused on running for higher office, I’m focused on doing the job that the people of Illinois just sent me to do.

MR. RUSSERT: But there seems to be an evolution in your thinking. This is what you told the Chicago Tribune last month: “Have you ruled out running for another office before your term is up?” Obama answer: “It’s not something I anticipate doing.” But when we talked back in November of ‘04 after your election I said, “There’s been enormous speculation about your political future. Will you serve your six-year term as United States senator from Illinois?” Obama: “Absolutely.”

SEN. OBAMA: I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed.

MR. RUSSERT: So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?

SEN. OBAMA: I will not.

MR. RUSSERT: Senator, thank you very much for your candor and for joining us and sharing your views.

SEN. OBAMA: Had a great time, Tim. Thank you.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Here's a question for the feminist pit bull in lipstick:

Could you address even a single one of those statements without a script? Are you capable of giving even a single coherent answer to any question you've not been briefed on (with a memorized talking point)?

Sarah, you have no credibility. You are a prop who talks when told what to say.

Submit yourself to even half the press conferences the other three candidates give on a weekly basis, because, otherwise, you are simply only as clever as your highly paid writer. (And Tina Fey writes her own material.)

Posted by: terry1960 | October 21, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

But why would BO select a person who was part of the government that got us into an unnecessary and costly war? A war that Obama opposed in 2003?

_________________________________
That wasn't the question though....Would you support his ticket still if he chose Condi Rice for VP?

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

There are plenty of "qualified" women, busy doing other important work around the nation, who didn't run for President. The real question is why Obama (who has less experience than Palin) broke his promise to NOT run for President?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 21, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Just a couple of things:

rdy4all - Bush senior was elected in 1988 after being the VP for 8 years under Reagan. Is that recent enough history to count?

I, as a conservative, am probably more surprised with the fact that someone can be pro-abortion, but anti-hunting than you are of us. You see we like to protect unborn HUMANS you want to protect animals. You complain about the "rape and incest" clause, what about the "food" clause? I realize that you might be a vegetarian, but until you start chastising all of your friends who aren't, don't complain to us about hunting our food instead of purchasing it. And if Obama raises my taxes as promised, I will have to hunt more often - less money = less groceries.

So if you really want to save those "defenseless animals" vote for McCain

I guess your vote will prove where you really stand of the issue - do you want to take wealthy peoples money and keep it for yourself, or do you want to save Bambi?

Posted by: Krej | October 21, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin should be applauded for championing feminist issues. However, the overshadowing problems facing the nation today are things like healthcare, the economy, the war in Iraq. Where does she stand on these issues? If McCain should become president, then falls ill, how will she handle these issues as president?

Get some answers to these pressing questions by visiting The Dailysource's special page on Sarah Palin. The Dailysource has over a hundred videos on Palin, more than enough for voters to become better acquainted with the potential vp. Go to dailysource.org/palinvideos to find out more.

Posted by: ds2oo81 | October 21, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I have a question for all of you pro-claimed full fledged "feminists" here...
would you support Obama if he chose Condaleeza Rice as his running mate?

I hear the final jeopardy music...and btw there is no wrong answer just curious.

Posted by: blevins20061

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Dick Morris thought Rice would be the candidate to face off against HRC. But why would BO select a person who was part of the government that got us into an unnecessary and costly war? A war that Obama opposed in 2003?

Posted by: CynthiaD1 | October 21, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

IF PALIN IS SO QUALIFIED...

Then why didn't she run for president?

Makes you wonder what the Republican Primary would have looked like? ...

"I've been Governer for TWO WHOLE MONTHS and I'm READY to be President"

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18 Million people votedfor Obama in the primaries because of his VISION for America not his experience.

Palin got one vote and the only vision I know of from her is her view of Russia.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

They do a lot of catalog shopping in Alaska. I would imagine that's where she learned about title 1X, from the clothing company and buys the odd sports bra. I too am appreciative of the women who came before us and burned their bras making way for our suits with big shoulder pads in the 80's and competing in a man's world, but I'm surprised that she would admire 60's radicals. This woman is covering for another agenda ... and that is undermining women's rights. The state by state abortion idea doesn't change anything. Roe vs. Wade needs to be upheld for the protection of women. She is then all for coat hanger abortion. She's totally backwards and Alaska minded. She is not an example of healthy women -- her daughter is pregnant and the boy has dropped out of high school. Fine example of progressive intelligence.

Posted by: janefree0513 | October 21, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

I have a question for all of you pro-claimed full fledged "feminists" here...
would you support Obama if he chose Condaleeza Rice as his running mate?

I hear the final jeopardy music...and btw there is no wrong answer just curious.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Nancy Reagan - even with her broken hip -
would make a better Vice President than Sarah Palin.

McCain would have done better to have chosen Jerry Springer as his running mate.

McCain and Palin will turn the "American Dream" into the "American Nightmare", and with McCain's age, Palin herself would soon end up President of the USA.

Now that would be funny - wouldn't it?

AidArmenia.com

Posted by: AidArmenia | October 21, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

It's fairly common knowledge that Sen. Clinton did not want her financial records pored over with a fine-toothed comb. Since Sen. Obama was behaving like an adult and conducting a detailed vetting for each potential VP selection, and since some of the money details with former President Bill Clinton's various deals, foundations, and speeches remain a bit murky, the vetting would have been problematic. For Gov. Palin to bring that up as a slap to women is disingenuous, to say the least. Sen. Obama said she was on "anyone's" short list. Why isn't that enough respect?

Posted by: gromaine3 | October 21, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Palin is one of the smartest woman in america.

Posted by: r4147824 | October 21, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Well now it make sense why Elaine Lafferty is no longer at Ms. Magazine. And I didn't even know there was an active LA chapter of NOW!

Posted by: feminist1 | October 21, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Interesting:

Title IX was written by Patsy Mink:
- Japanese-American
- Democrat
- grew up in Hawaii
- attended University of Chicago Law School


Posted by: winnetoo | October 21, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Well it looks like the Republicans have given up on the terrorist and socialist attacks, now they are looking to see if they can get any mileage using the sexist charges. This is really a thinly veiled attempt (again) to peel off women Democrats who supported HRC in the primaries.

John McCain could have selected women Republicans such as Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen Elizabeth Dole. They have solid conservative voting records in the Senate and no one could question their experience.

Instead he chose Sarah Palin who is clearly unqualified. This was to throw red meat to the rabid anti- thinking wing of the Republican party who have always been suspicious of McCain. And please don't tell me about her being in charge of the Alaskan National Guard. That's as ridiculous as her claim for foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia and Canada.

I would have voted for HRC for POTUS, who has the right credentials if she had received the nomination. But I disagree that she was the victim of sexism within the Democratic Party. She ran a poor campaign that was based on the single premise of an overwhelming win in the Super Tuesday primaries but with no other contingency plan.

I vote Democratic because the Republican party is too steeped in the dogma of un-bridled 1890's style capitalism as the cure for our economic woes and a cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war approach to running our foreign affairs. I will gladly vote for a qualified woman candidate who recognizes that that is all wrong for America.

Posted by: CynthiaD1 | October 21, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I am counting the days -- 13, to be exact -- until this little loser is sent back to Alaska.

God bless her as she finishes up the final two years of her term with a very vindictive local GOP, no teleprompters to read from (and high-paid Bushies writing the material), no more earrmarks and adoring crowds 4,000 miles away.

It is going to be a crash and in ain't going to be pretty.

Posted by: Jaxxon | October 21, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Is Palin really the right surrogate for McCain to be running with this? Palin may be fine, but no one accuses her of being anything close to a feminist.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | October 21, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Sigh....fair article Juliet.

Beware the angry, bitter feminists in the room who are offended.

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Palins glasses are just for effect?

Look at most folk wearing glasses and catch the line that the side of their face makes as it passes behind the lens. You'll see a sudden change in the line as the lens distorts the image.

Palin's lenses don't make any difference as far as i can see. Could they really be plain lenses to make her look "intellectual"?

Just wondered

Posted by: some_bloke | October 21, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

If only Ann Richards was still with us, she would teach Palin a thing or two about feminism. She'd be ripping her a new one. We miss your humor and your honesty Ann, especially in these days and times.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 21, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Very funny mythology to portray herself as a feminist. Let's walk down history lane. The first woman governor was voted in in 1925 and she was a democrat. Over the next 56 years there was on average one female governor per 4 year term all of them democrats. It wasn't until 1992 that a female republican governor was voted into office. We're not talking progressive here. She is party line and beyond. Her politics are all about getting far religious right conservative into the supreme court to undermine laws for women's rights. That is her mission and goal. Powell was very correct about her. Not only that but it would be time spent muddling over these kinds of issues rather than getting on with dealing with larger issues of education, health care, poverty that she has no clue about and her ideology about war is that it is a Christian crusade, God's war very very narrow and scary. No she is not a feminist, but a radical Christian with dangerous ideas and campaign strategy.

Posted by: janefree0513 | October 21, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

NNIA is a rethug troll - has been active on other websites too. Probably paid to drop stink bombs at various websites by the GOP - by quantity not quality. So ignore them since they are an unemployment benefit.

Posted by: pixiedust1 | October 21, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't know who is dumber - Palin or Bachmann,

I am ordering them each a brown shirt for Christmas.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 21, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

You know...I have come to the conclusion if there is an Anti-Christ in this campaign it is without doubt Palin. Palin will say anything and everything no matter how false without reservation to woo whatever audience happens to be in front of her. Should Palin-McCain get elected, don't expect McCain to even survive until inauguration day. Then roll up your sleeves and be ready to get tattooed.

Now she is a feminist. Yeah right. An opportunist is more like it. She benefits from the hard work of all those people, women and men, fighting for equal rights for so many years and makes a mockery of it. Unfortunately just like defending freedom of speech, you have to defend it for everyone including the opportunist hate mongers like her.

Yes, if you REALLY want a radical change, vote for SATAN Palin and Igor McCain. You will be in for the change of your lives. It is obvious McCain sold his soul to SATAN for the presidency, I never would have thought he would sink as low as he has.

But don't worry America, you will be able to watch it on C-SPAN. I can easily envision Palin and Buchannan hosting the American Inquisition.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 21, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not a feminist. Being a woman does not automatically qualify her as a feminist - not any more than seeing Russia qualifies her as a national security expert... A feminist concerns herself (and sometimes himself) with a number of issues including, but not limited to, reproductive rights, gay and lesbian rights, civil rights, labor rights, and even animal rights. As others have noted, she lacks 'intellectual curiosity.' She does not concern herself with the issues. Her views run absolutely contrary to the modern and progressive feminist movement that is currently taking place domestically and internationally. It is an insult to suggest that she has a "feminist" side. Her running mate voted against equal pay, she supports shooting wolves from helicopters and then shooting their defenseless pups in the head, she is not pro-life; she is anti-abortion, she and her church brought in Jews for Jesus - a group that seeks to convert Jews to Christians - and, she has no global perspective. She has no sense of the struggles that women face both here in the US and around the world. She is no feminist.

Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Kaye3 | October 21, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody notice that she said "If I am elected, these women will have an advocate and an defender in the forty-seventh vice president of the United States," ...? It's John McSame who's running, but of course, the opportunist that Sarah (wild and free) that she is, she's looking a little ahead of the game. Talk about a power trip - well, you know what they say about pay back ....

Posted by: wlai0639 | October 21, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

McBush has some serious issues if this recent letter in Salon is actually true. He would be a typical chauvinist - not that it is a surprise given his no vote and subsequent remarks on the Equal Pay act.
http://letters.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/06/florida/view/?show=all

I think NOW has endorsed Obama - this Mandell creature is on her own in her endorsement of Palin.

Posted by: pixiedust1 | October 21, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

go sara,go sara ,men think we are just going to be quiet and take less pay,and mcleangirl you should be ashamed of your self if PALIN ADMITTED PRIVATELY SHE DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ABORTION how would you know ?it was in privat.and maybe if young woman didnt have abortion avalible to then with out restrictions they would be safer about who they have sex with ,and not have sex with everyone

Posted by: johan60 | October 21, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the way to reach equal women's rights is to put a woman on a ticket in order to get votes. I mean really... Is USING a woman to win really a way to "break the ceiling"?

Posted by: marttheman | October 21, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Palin is tougher than Obama. If she had to do a face-down with Putin or the Iranian, she could. Obama doesn't strike me as all that capable in that regard.

With McCain in office, the marginally sane and insane leaders of the world would think twice before planning any transgressions.

When I think of things like national security, abortion rights takes a back seat.

Not only that, but Ms. Palin has stated that she appreciates a diversity of beliefs and that includes folks in her own circle of family and friends who believe differently than she does on abortion rights.

What strikes me as incredible, is that so called "liberals" do not extend that appreciation the other way...they don't even extend TOLERANCE the other way.

In fact, many on the far left strike me as among the most bigoted of individuals - no different than the far right, just a different polarity, and sometimes even nastier.


Posted by: RM23 | October 21, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

palin, you continue to amaze me with your blind puppy dog devotion to out dated rhetoric that amounts to 'moose fodder'. go back to the ice hole you call home along with your AIP spouse

Posted by: wship3 | October 21, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

So you're ex-military, so what.

_________________________________________

Well thank you Ardee, I did enjoy serving my great country and it's citizens.

Soft touch? Are we angry or just bitter?

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Patriotism is not religion. It doesn't require blind obedience.
_______________________________________

You are right McCleangirl!
Neither does feminism.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

blevins20061: No getting off the hook with the soft touch ! So you're ex-military, so what. Doesn't mean you're any more patriotic than anyone else living in the US. You use the usual repo inuendo to imply Obama isn't patriotic - well apparently another military man,Colin Powell, doesn't share your views and I personally have much respect for his opinions and his patriotism. I ask you the same question I ask of all the idiots here who come out with this anti-patriotic rubbish. If Obama so dislikes the USA what sense would it make to anyone other than a fool that he should want to become its President ? That would just be totally illogical.

Posted by: aredee | October 21, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin epitomizes what we all most despise in politicians. She will say anything to get votes. Whether what she is saying is true or not is of no consequence to her. In fact, she seems to relish in lies and once in while might say something that has a small element of reality to it. Why anyone would take anything that she says seriously is beyond me. Some people are "born ready". Sarah Palin will never be ready. Electing her and her running mate would spell disaster.

Posted by: MickyD1 | October 21, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

What are you talking about with this "patriotism" schmear? When in 2009 the government is liberal and American politics are too left-wing for you, will YOU be unpatriotic for questioning its policies? If your kid is smacking the side of the garage with a metal baseball bat and you yell at him to stop, does that mean you don't love him? Patriotism is not religion. It doesn't require blind obedience.

Posted by: mcleangirl | October 21, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Didn't anyone tell Palin that you have to be pro-abortion rights to be a real woman?

Posted by: bobmoses | October 21, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

tshirttt: I take issue with that ! Who says Palin's a woman, have you seen her naked, have you read Drs reports ? NO, exactly, so stop spreading malicious rumors !

Posted by: aredee | October 21, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Are you telling me that these NOW officials support a woman that is anti-abortion, even in the case of rape or incest? This stage of contradictory politics reveals one of two things: PALIN HAS ADMITTED PRIVATELY TO THESE WOMEN THAT SHE DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ABORTION or THESE WOMEN HAVE BEEN OFFERED POSITIONS CLOSE TO THE WHITE HOUSE THAT DEMOCRATS HADN'T OFFERED. Or both.

Posted by: mcleangirl | October 21, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Aredee- I share your love for animals. I live in Southern Maryland and every fall they hunt deer here. I don't practice it but I know it is necessary to help with over-population of the animals.

Look, I am not even totally pro-life, I skew more moderate on those issues. The bottomline for me being former military is the candidates #1 commitment to America and #2 patriotism.
Three out of the 4 running in this election I don't have to question their love for America.

Hope that helps. :-)

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Let's think about this for a moment. People want to knock Obama about Clinton. An Obama - Clinton administration would have never worked because Bill Clinton would have to be subordinate to Obama and he'd having no parts of that. Neither would Hillary. Let's be real about this. Palin all of a sudden sprouts feminism? By and large, feminists refuse to give up the right to control what they do with their bodies. Palin would actively work to take that right away. A major driving force early on behind the feminist movement were gay women. Palin would actively work to alter the US Constitution to outlaw gay marriage. That's legislating morality. What's the major thing that Republicans hate? "Activist" judges who legislate from bench. Can you say "hypocrite"? Effectively, Palin's desire to change the Constitution is a hypocritical position and not in keeping with her "Federalist" (if she can even spell the word) position of the states deciding the gay marriage issue. In closing, those who buy into Palin's brand new, pseudo-feminist rhetoric are dumber than a fence post.

Posted by: ehperkins1971 | October 21, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

nnia: By the way, did you know that she's......BLACK. What a scandal, imagine a black first lady ! You rabble rouser, you couldn't even stand in the shadow of a woman like Michelle

Posted by: aredee | October 21, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

In the movie "Its a wonderful life"....Jimmy Stewart play's

"George Bailey' and as George Bailey, he has an angel called Clarence....Clarence informs George Bailey that, "Everytime someone rings a bell, an angel gets its wings"

Its the same with Barack Obama.

Everytime a right wing nut neocon nazi republican facist types a negative slanderous lie about Obama....Obama recieves another hundred voters.

Neocon republican right wing nut nazi facists are urged to TYPE FASTER !!!

Cha-ching....cha-ching...cha-ching
hahahahahahah Get these fools folks...their handin out wings....cha-ching....cha-ching....cha-ching...hahahahahahha

Gary Gelormino Seven Hills Ohio 44131 (216)447-0081

Posted by: garygelormino1 | October 21, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

WaPoPravda, you bunch of morons don't know that it is impossible for an antiabortion, anti women's rights, anti minority rights beauty queen wannabe to be a feminist!

There is no such thing as a barbie doll right wing feminist. Something tells me you still don't understand.

Posted by: kevinschmidt | October 21, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin a feminist? She's an Uncle Tom for women. She's a woman who supports a government telling you what to do with your body. Of course, just because she's a woman doesn't mean she has to be a feminist. But to imply she supports women is just another Palin lie. I have way more education than her. I will agree that most women can be nastier than men to eachother, witness some of the hatred that was spewed towards Hillary because she was educated and didn't have tons of children. So this is the woman America likes -- an uneducated beauty queen. Great.

Posted by: tshirttt | October 21, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Obama's API tapes to be released unedited: Read the shocking details that could derail the election.

Read the details:

http://www.obamaunveiled.com

Posted by: nnia | October 21, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Follow this link to see how Palin has covered up more of her ethical transgressions and abused her power as governor. She is no maverick, she is a typical pol greasing her own palms. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

Posted by: ursadog | October 21, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

blevins20061: Form your selected reading of what I write I see the issue of a woman feeling at ease shooting defenseless animals bothers you too. Not exactly the image of the gentler sex is it - but doubtless something which pleases the Eastern state and Alaskan knuckledraggers

Posted by: aredee | October 21, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse


Fact check: Was McCain once against Bush tax cuts?

True. As Obama states, McCain did say he could not support President Bush's tax cuts in 2001, saying it was because they went to the wealthy at the expense of the middle class. He later supported extending them, saying the economy made them feasible at that later time.

Captain McFLIP-FLOP strikes again!

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

"Palin surrounded herself onstage with two higher-profile defectors from Sen. Hillary Clinton's camp -- Lynn Rothschild, a member of the Democratic Platform Committee, and Elaine Lafferty, a former editor-in-chief of Ms. Magazine -- along with Sherry Mandell, the president of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Organization for Women, Linda Klinge, the vice president of Oregon's NOW chapter and Prameela Bartholomeusz, a small business owner and member of the Democratic National Platform Committee. The LA chapter of NOW has endorsed Palin's bid."

These women are voting and acting AGAINST THE BEST INTERESTS OF WOMEN IN AMERICA! These people represent the misandrist, and/or racist wing of former Hillary supporters and give feminism, and Hillary A BAD NAME. They are supporting INCOMPETENCE because the incompetent individual running for the vice presidency carries two X chromasomes.

A person's sex matters no more than their race in their ability to do the job and hold the office of the President of the United States. Further, INTELLIGENCE AND ETHICS MATTER! Sarah Palin has been found GUILTY of unethical abuse of power by republicans and dem's in Alaska. She is OBVIOUSLY UNQUALIFIED... Yet these would-be feminists are supporting her because she is yes, unqualified, but FEMALE.

Her gender, and/or her race are the ONLY things that matter to them.

Amazing. DISGUSTING. UN-American.

Lynn Rothschild, and Prameela Bartholomeusz should have their DEM party membership revoked.

I will NEVER AGAIN send N.O.W. a single penny!

VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN IN 08'

Posted by: onestring | October 21, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

ARDEE WROTE-
, when you hear her rant and rave and come out with racial slurs to stir up the mob

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You mean like in Rev Wright's church that Obama attended for twenty years???

PS. Fact check that "kill him" rumor, that was de-bunked.
:-)

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton.

She doesn't have the same level of education, even though she went to more schools than Clinton.

She doesn't have the experience.

But she can deliver the Barbie speech very well - as long as she has good speech writers.

Posted by: KHMJr | October 21, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Now the Republican party is going to take over the cause of women's rights?

How'd you like to buy in bridge in Brooklyn?

McCain's been in office a long time; his employees have had a chance to build up seniority. It's structural, not personal.

No gentleman, let alone a champion of women, is going to call his wife or any woman a c##t in public - or private.

Posted by: j2hess | October 21, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Okay...all you "true" feminists out there, just admit it!
You'd all be alot more comfortable with GOVERNOR PALIN if she had cankles like Hillary.

Sometimes I think women are harder on women than men.

Give it up.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

blevins20061: I'd like to correct you - yes she's pro-life but not if your a moose, caribou, bear, wolf or coyote. So what did they do to justify being murdered by Palin ? Personally, when you hear her rant and rave and come out with racial slurs to stir up the mob I think I'd rather have one of the forementioned four legged creatures as my buddy - I'd certainly feel safer !

Posted by: aredee | October 21, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Just making up lies as she goes. How can anyone take this woman seriously? I mean really.

Posted by: lasker1895 | October 21, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin can try all the tricks in the book, but she is no feminist and certainly doesn't deserve to have her name in the same sentence as Hillary Clinton. Palin's character is transparent...not because she's honest, but because it's non-existent. Now we hear this woman scammed Alaska by being reimbursed for airfares for all her children. What a sham.

Posted by: Alexandra08 | October 21, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

monk4hall: Idiot ! You should know that the definition of communism is "all pay for no work" - don't you know anything !

Posted by: aredee | October 21, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

c) "murder" of defenseless animals

Aredee- you are kidding right?

ok, but she's against murder of defenseless babies.

Nice article about Palin...finally WASHPOST.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 21, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse


Equal pay for equal work? Sounds like commie socialist liberal talk to me.

Posted by: monk4hall | October 21, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

To the feminists amongst us:
Does the following describe you-
a) inappropriate ethics in trying to get an ex-brother in law fired
b) misappropriation of state funds for personal travel
c) "murder" of defenseless animals
d) racial slurring of opponents
If it doesn't Palin has nothing to do in your life !

Posted by: aredee | October 21, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Dear Palin,

Add this to the long, long list of things you don't know....

McCain has done little to nothing to advance the cause of women.

You should know this already thanks to having read all of the newspapers and magazines ever written.

Oh and you've probably set back the cause of women by at least a decade given how dumb you are.

Posted by: RightDownTheMiddle | October 21, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

I applaud Palin's support for equal work/equal pay (while noting she doesn't support extending the time to file a lawsuit) and title IX, as well as concerns about sex trafficking (something I also applaud Bush Jr. for). But I have to wonder about what must be an uneasy alliance between her and the feminists that appeared with her. While ultimately lending his support to Obama, Powell was also free to say his views on Iraq differed. Were the Palin's across-party-lines supporters allowed to say their views on choice? On gay marriage? On sex education in the schools?

Posted by: multiplepov | October 21, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I've had the feeling from the outset that if Palin ever did become president many people on the Left would eventually become pleasantly surprised.

And conversely, those on the Right . . .

Posted by: info42 | October 21, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Why do people like this racist bumpersticker sales man support Palin?

Check out this video of Islamic McCain supporters scolding am racist:

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/racist-mccain-rally-goers-7-mccain.html

Posted by: Snakeheader | October 21, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

"An Obama aide who asked not to identified said that women on McCain's staff earn more comparable salaries to men on staff because they occupy more senior, high-paid posts in the Arizona senator's office, not because Obama discriminates against women."

This sounds like something Biden would say. McCain should turn it into a commercial.

Posted by: info42 | October 21, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Think about it. Would HC even want the VP spot. When, in recent history, can you remember a VP actually winning an election after the President's terms are up?

Assuming Obama wins in November, he could possibly have 8 years in the white house, then Clinton would run....history says she would lose. Then what does she have left? She isnt a Senator anymore.

If Obama/Biden win, it could be 8 years, opening up the door for HC to win 8 years down the road if she so chooses to run...although she has expressed that she hasn't, that could change in 8 years

Posted by: rdy4all2000 | October 21, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

OOPS! I said Bush instead of McCain...too Freudian!

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

The best thing Bush can do for his campaign is support Obama.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 21, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

"The LA chapter of NOW has endorsed Palin's bid."

No it *hasn't.* Get your facts straight. Only Mandell personally did.

Posted by: multiplepov | October 21, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

"Palin went on to suggest Obama discriminated against women employees in his own Senate office, as opposed to GOP presidential nominee John McCain."

She is right in at least some of that. We all know that John McCain LIKES women.

Posted by: dbeno1 | October 21, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Behold, the best Daily Show episode ever!


Jon Stewart eviscerates the GOP's "real" America attacks, demolishing both Nancy Pfotenhauer ("real" Virginia) and Michele Bachmann (Bachmann Turncoat Overdrive) and offering audio of Sarah Palin's infamous "pro-America" areas of the country comment.
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188635&title=pfriend-or-pfoe
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 21, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

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