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Palin Must Save Her Yahoo E-Mails, Judge Rules

By Karl Vick
An Anchorage judge has ordered Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to preserve e-mails from private accounts she has used to conduct state business.

Superior Court Judge Craig Stowers on Friday also ordered Alaska's attorney general to recover messages from a Yahoo.com account of Palin's that was breached by hackers last month. That break-in prompted Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign to order closed at least one additional private account Palin maintained.

The judge issued the orders at the request of Andree McLeod, an Anchorage activist whose pursuit of Palin's e-mails revealed that the governor did considerable state business from a Yahoo e-mail address -- an arrangement that avoided the safeguards and accountability of the state's secure e-mail system.

Last month a second Yahoo account maintained by Palin was hacked and images of its inbox were posted publicly online. The inbox included e-mails with subject lines that seemed clearly to relate to legislation.

A Tennessee man was indicted Thursday on charges of illegally resetting Palin's password and posting several pages from gov.palin@yahoo.com.

Yet another private address outside the Yahoo system came to light earlier this month, when The Washington Post reported that Palin, her husband and close aides established last spring e-mail accounts that were apparently known only to one another. The accounts were nested within an Internet domain maintained by a Wasilla computer company. The company and the McCain campaign confirmed the existence of the accounts, although it was denied by Frank Bailey, the Palin aide who company officials said set up the accounts and had the authority to administer them.

The McCain campaign ordered those e-mail accounts for Palin and her husband frozen after the Yahoo hacking became known. The Yahoo breach also affected the functioning of state government.

"Until she was hacked, we were communicating just about daily," Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell told the Associated Press the following week. "Now I'm talking with her chief of staff."

Judge Stowers called the effort to recover and preserve Palin e-mails relating to state business "important" and noted that Alaska's public record law was last updated before the rise of the Internet.

"On one hand, I'm pleased that the judge saw fit to order the retrieval and preservation of these e-mails, to the extent of going to the providers to get them," said McLeod, a Republican who was formerly close to Palin. "But on the other hand, I'm amazed that I even have to go to court to get the governor to comply with Alaska's public record laws."

McLeod is also seeking the release by Palin of some 1,100 e-mails the governor held back from an earlier public records request, citing executive privilege. McLeod's lawyer asserts that Palin waived that privilege by routinely copying messages to her husband, Todd, who is not a state employee.

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****AMERICA SHOULD BE FEARFULLY CONCERNED****

!!CORRUPTION!!
The Alaska Supreme Court has cleared for release to the public the Alaska State Legislature's (mostly Republicans) highly anticipated investigative report on whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power.

(note) Troopergate: In plain English, Sarah Palin has been PROVEN she broke Alaska State Ethics Law in abusing her power in pushing for the firing of a State Trooper once married to her sister and by ALLOWING her husband Todd Palin to use the Alaska Governor's Office in a crusade against the officer. Palin is found by Alaska Legislative Investigation (LAW) of Firing without reasonable "just cause" the Alaska State Public Safety Commissoner Walt Monegan.

ALASKA GOVERNOR Palin RECALL!
I am a Alaskan life voting Republican. This 2008 Election, I will [with pleasure] vote Democrat!
McCains V.P. selection Sarah Palin unequivocally has NO business being the Alaska Governor, let alone, a USA Candidate for Vice President…..

Maverick??.....”AMERICA SHOULD BE FEARFULLY CONCERNED”

I voted for Sarah Palin in Alaskas 2006 Governor Election. MISTAKE!.... Never Again… I repeat-NEVER AGAIN!!....Alaska Governor Palin is an absolute Embarrassment to the Alaska People(s) and "IS PROVEN” over and over to be an insatiable Liar!!...

How can she possibly ASSUME to possess the ability to clean up America, when she cannot clean the progressive ''MESS" She has created…then left Alaska to run for the United States V.P.? Yes,---Left “HER and Her husband todd palins” Mess FOR Alaskans to Clean-Up!!

MCCAIN, you should be ASHAMED of yourself!!!! This victim (palin) has no business in this Presidential Arena.

Posted by: AlaskanVoter

Thank You McClatchyde.com Truth News
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Posted by: Alaskanvoter | October 15, 2008 7:09 AM | Report abuse

I can't believe the judge is validating the criminal acts of that hacker.
mmi

Posted by: mollimi | October 14, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

So if she is e-mailing someone and the only information is that she will be meeting with them at a specific time and she copies her husband so he is aware of her schedule it is terrible? The abuse of power allegations are anything but an abuse of power. She wasn't involved in the activities so it was an abuse of power? When Hillary Clinton was running White House all the libs thought it was wonderful but then she is a Democrat so that is acceptable. What an absolute joke you libs are. A disgrace to this country and to "thinking" people.

Posted by: starkgranger | October 14, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

And how many government employees don't do pretty much exactly what Palin does? A few thousand? A few tens of thousands?

Limiting her based on her sharing information with her spouse is pretty silly.

-A govt employee

Posted by: Theakbeachboy | October 14, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I think if we are going to take a close look at Palin, we must take a closer look at Todd Palin. Her problem with "abuse of power" is directly related to Todd. SP didn't stop her husband was using her office and making numerous phone calls putting pressure on others to fire the trooper. If indeed it is found that the same people who worked on the Palin's home, were people who won government contracts and these people are associcated with Todd, the political foundation the two of them strived to build will collaspe. Sarah Palin's rise to power and possible fall from grace will be forever linked to Todd Palin.

Posted by: leah1946 | October 13, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

This election was a chance to show that we have finally outgrown our past.
An African American running for president would have been unthinkable for my generation of the fifties and sixties.
At that time people like Lester Maddox, and George Wallace were the only political voice in the south. Segregation here in Florida was a way of life. I did not attend grade school with African Americans. I do remember the hatred and violence of the sixties. Killings, beatings, fires and rioting left scars that still exist today. So when I saw the Palin rally in Clearwater, Florida on TV and heard what happened there it made me sick and angry that we still haven't learned.
For a pretty woman, Sarah Palin sure has one ugly mouth and she uses it to bring out that same ugliness in people who listen to her.
I wish she would go back home. She isn't the future. She just brings back bad memories

Posted by: seemstome | October 13, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

kittenclawz, I agree that most politicians have done things that aren't so good and all of them have associated with people at one point or another that are not so good. This is the reason I think Ayers is irrelevant; most people have someone shady in their hundreds of associations.

I can't agree, however, that every one of them has ignored the rules to the extent that Palin has. She has ignored the laws by improperly pressuring for the firing of the state trooper dozens of times, not once or twice. She blatantly violated state open-information laws she had to know exist, and which exist for good reason.

"...the governor and her top aides sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business, and dozens of e-mails obtained by The Times showed that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to beat subpoenas seeking public records."

She also tried to strong-arm the city librarian of her town into censoring books and tried to fire her when she refused. In short, Gov. Palin has a record of ignoring but written and unwritten rules on power. Disregard for the rules by those enforcing them is something there has been too much of, and disregard this blatant while reaching for power this aggressively is actually not standard. It happens far too often, but there are many governors and presidents who have not. The worst thing to do is ignore such conduct. There needs to be a body that can actually investigate the President now too.

It's true that Obama has proposed significant new spending, but McCain has promised tax cuts and some (not as much, but some) new spending. And for the last time (sigh) Obama isn't a socialist. I don't quite understand why some people don't know that someone who doesn't propose changing a capitalist industry except to increase (+)competition and introduce subsidies for some people is considered socialist . Taking the entire industry and making it public wouldn't even be socialism. Socialism involves making the economy mainly run not for profit and generally centrally organized. Obama is not proposing this.

Nostalgia for yesterday's American might omit the bad things of yesteryear: Watergate, Iran-Contra, Savings and Loan, and increases in poverty which started decades ago. The past isn't as rosy as all that, even if Bush has taken the country to a low point.

Posted by: jamesmallov | October 13, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

The best Sarah Palin Impersonators, see clips of them very funny vote for your favorite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMebGbcC2Sg

See Huckabee's theory, Terrorist might be minipulating the stock market. http://www.HuckabeeShow.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 13, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Just keep digging, digging, digging WAPODemos. This witchhunt is getting pathetic.

Posted by: ca67klein | October 12, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

I want to see the e-mails she wrote to see if uses g's at end of her words and how often she uses loop the loop non sequiturs.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 12, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey bmuz - you are a nutcase! Obama is a citizen born in Hawaii. There is no question about this except in the minds of the conspiracy idiots. If this is all you can worry about in the midst of this financial crisis that Bush and the rest of the GOP has left us with, you have no life to speak of.

Posted by: knittingnutvi | October 12, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 12, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

And I should add... Let's take our country back from shallow people like "bemuz" below.

Posted by: JimZ1 | October 12, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Obamamaniacs??? Answer one question for me.

I have been looking for this seemingly simple answer about Obama, What Hospital and city was he born in?

Posted by: bmuz | October 12, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Abuse of power, concealing public records from the public , operating as if laws are just inconveniences to be circumvented.... Who wants 8 more years of this? Can our country even survive 8 more years of this unethical behavior? It took us decades to discover that the best government is a transparent government. The government is suppose to be working for us. Let's take our government back this fall and vote for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: JimZ1 | October 12, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

HEY!!!!!!!!! A M E R I C A N S

what's wrong with the country and the current corrupt government ????


they enacted a _P_L_A_N_N_E_D_ rigging of a game,


the financial market place

that PRIVATIZES PROFIT


while SOCAILIZES RISK....

_they_ the filthy rich screw up YOU pay for it....Congress guarantees it...they passes laws so that you have to handle their risks....

you screw up you pay for that too....


there's no risk to THE CORRUPT, and no investment in making sure that your lives turn out okay....

but YOU THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THEM from the get go...


their risks are SOCIALIZED....part of our GOVERNMENT PAYOUT...


listen closely, the wealthy are on welfare, it's called tax breaks for the elite.....and development costs paid for corporations by citizens...

what do you think the _I_L_L_E_G_A_L_ invasion of IRAQ is about....you, the citizens, are paying the business expenses of BIG OIL...you pay the military to steal it

and _THEY_ get the oil deals and the rights to sell you at a huge profit the oil that your military captures for them...


how do you feel about those non-compete bids for HALLIBURTON and CARLYLE GROUP


AMERICA????


.

Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I have a problem with government officials, who advocate spying on law abiding citizens, going to great lengths to evade scrutiny of their own conduct in public office by those same citizens. That not what I'd call "government of the people, by the people, for the people." To properly use a term they've unsuccessfully tried to turn against Obama, it's sinister.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

who is running


McCain's campaign?????


BUSHes BOYs.....every one....of his campaign people is actively working on Mc Cains campaign....who is paying for McCain to run???


apparently 106 LOBBYISTs...


why is the economy in the crapper???


_____________6___________Y_E_A_R_S_________OF____VETO_FREE__

______________REPUBLICAN__________LEGISLATION__________

aka influence peddling, graft, corruption as a lifestyle......

listen closely,


bailing out the banks is like spraying topical disinfectant on a boil caused by an infection in the liver....


you may relieve the immediately visible symptom,

but you're going to die.

can you think past the next five minutes or are you all a bunch of two year olds' that can't put the cookie down, because you're in a

"mine" snit??????


CONGRESS and the corrupt whitehouse are emotionally 2 years old and they're holding the cookie bag.....you think they are going to share?

where's the proof simple toons? jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeus.

.


you want to fix the economy???


make it a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.....and messing with it treason.


stop outsourcing yesterday, bring customer service jobs in_country immediately....if it's a federal mandate for _all_ it'll be managed...


fix the infrastructure. make cities safe and livable, discourage driving by encouraging telecommuting

I could come up with 25 things that would generate GDP and REAL PRODUCT in_country in two weeks....


but then I'm not a corrupt government bush family member trying to scam you....I am an engineer

and I KNOW how things work.....I don't sell you propaganda as fact and make you stupid with incorrect premise and information.


.


the current administration has been _selling_


that the economy is okay for 7.8 years now....but the U.S. of A. she don't _PRODUCE_ anything anymore....and white collar jobs are overseas too...


and 3rd World country managers are in_country replacing managers as well, and medical/architectual/modeling jobs are now being outsourced...

that's lower upper class people/jobs being harvested for the last three years...


whose next? the rest, aka the economy D.A.'s


The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI) is one of the measures of national income and output for a given country's economy. ...

lack of money isn't the problem...

the problem is that the middle class has been harvested, and their "buying ways," have been curtailed by "no money anymore."


and "rich people," who've bought their way into control of the legislative process, and write the laws that benefit them and not the country are too stupid to realize that

when there is no product in GDP, that money ceases to have real meaning...


I know that is beyond you, but trading paper produces nothing....and not have any products produced in-country means dollars go out-of-country daily...


while companies pretending to be AMERICAN have 97 PERCENT of their labor costs going to overseas companies...


no in-country employees earning money?


so AMERICAN citizens got no money, they got no jobs, no matter how cheap it gets it's too much money when you got none, comprende?

to solve a situation you have to understand it.


there is no real liquidity without a middle class.


there is no middle class if outsourcing is "the way to go," to avoid support or labor costs...without middle class people spending the money that they have earned, there is no liquidity....if every billionaire buys seven refrigerators how many refrigerators will a thousand millionaires buy?


I know it's beyond most of you.


your country is currently in the hands of corruption

and MAJOR STUPIDITY

.


Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Gator: Yeah...sure. whatever floats your boat. Por asita Palin!

Posted by: leah1946 | October 12, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

WHAT THE EMAILS WILL ILLUSTRATE..IS THAT PALIN CANNOT SPELL CORRECTLY AND USED POOR GRAMMAR...

Posted by: blackjack3 | October 12, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

The emails received as a result of the hacking would be illegal to use. I do believe some in Palin's camp offered the existance of the other email accounts. I think the Gov also admitted to other email accounts. The Patriot Acts may or may not be involved in the abilities to check emails, but there were all kinds of situations that became acceptible post 9/11.....many with the American people's approval.

Posted by: leah1946 | October 12, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I am a woman and would have loved to have voted for an intelligent, smart and articulate women to be in the White House. Sadly, Palin doesn't represent meet those criteria. Shocking how the Republicans couldn't find a single women in office that could have been a better vp candidate than the one chosen. We've just gone back 100 years with the idea that a smart and intelligent women is not good for America.

Posted by: sterlingspeaks | October 12, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Cant wait till the final debate tuesday. Vote On Who You Think Should Be Debater Of The Year WatchDebate.com
Here is a Video of what everyone did not see during the second debate. Its a debate out take. Watch the video at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mng0njC1D6c

Posted by: pastor123 | October 12, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

rigidpleaser:

"Now we know that the law has changed to make illegally obtained information admissible."

Let me give you a couple of scenarios...

The cops without reason/suspicion enter your garage and find a reported stolen car. They get a warrant and pay you a visit. Finding your prints on the car they arrest you for suspected car theft.

You local newspaper is printing pictures of local houses recovered from a crime and prints a copy of a picture of your house with the garage door open. The police notice that the car matches the description of a stolen car and has the same license plate number, they get a warrant, and finding your prints on the car arrest you for suspicion of car theft.

Which of the above would involve illegally or improperly obtained evidence?

In Palin's Yahoo case the emails were obtained illegally by the person that hacked her account, but once their existence was made public and it was clear some pertained to her work as governor I suspect use of that information in the lawsuit to have all her emails (regardless of the account) that pertained to her business as governor would not be considered illegally obtained.

I wouldn't be surprised if the court might not ask her to disclose any other accounts she used so that they could be checked for emails pertaining to her business as governor. This is because it has been shown she has done this at least once already.

Some of this is of course what the lawsuit was about.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/552784.html

IANAL

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 12, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

if any of those emails are used against her politically, the judge should step down...

Posted by: DwightHCollins | October 12, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Women of America Unite
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!
VOTE for McCain/Palin
Posted by: Manolete | October 12, 2008 10:48 AM

People who have learned from the last eight years have learned that a different economic policy from Bush is needed. The Bush tax cuts did not work and McCain's answer is to do more of the same. And Palin. she does says the same thing as McCain only she whips people up to be angry.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 12, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

What is coming out is that the ignorant, use your common sense public persona is real. Only the ignorance is genuine.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 12, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

What kind of idiot/crook bypasses her secure government website to do confidential state business on freaking Yahoo. What would she do in the White House? Post the military plans for Iraq on Facebook? Palin is Bush in a skirt.

Posted by: TheDukeStir | October 12, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Now we know that the law has changed to make illegally obtained information admissible.

What should be troubling to you is when your free country has been beaten to the point of thinking it safe or even racist to handover the command of its war arsenal to the SAME guy that launched his political career in the living-room of a white terrorist. And when questioned about the relationship, he LIES.

The sins and pains of our fathers were grievous, but it is clear to everyone that Obama's candidacy represents the fact that America has gone a long way in reuniting its citizens. That should be the breaking news.

When blacks have a candidate that can win the presidency without reminding all that his father is from Kenya and that he does not look like the people on the dollar bill, they will bring him out and he will serve the AMERICAN people.

And in case you think I am racist, just be informed that I am black. One of the few being criticized for mot supporting Barack.

Posted by: rigidpleaser | October 12, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

In response to previous posts:

The "Housegate" I've seen referred to apparently has to do with whether the Palin's new home,worth more than half a million dollars, was built largely by "contractor friends" of Todd Palin. These contractors are reported to have also been the successful bidders involved in the construction of a sports complex in Wasilla. There may be questions as to whether this is another scandal a la Ted Stevens. Honestly, as of this moment, it appears to be speculation, at least in my judgment, although there are those who are convinced it is yet another smoking gun.

I am agnostic on this issue. There was a diary about it last night on Daily Kos. I would assume, given the level of scrutiny the Palins find themselves under at this point, that the matter has grabbed the attention of enough people that it will be properly vetted.

My guess is that newspaper editors do not yet have enough information on it to consider it a legitimate news story. As they say in the biz, "stay tuned".

Posted by: sweetwtrbay | October 12, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

They may need to do the same for the "first dude" too.

"Sarah Palin's husband, Todd, was a fixture at governor's office

The 'first gentleman' also read official correspondence and went to closed Cabinet meetings, records and an investigation indicate.

Barely two weeks after Sarah Palin had been sworn in as Alaska's governor, in December 2006, then-Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan's executive secretary got a confusing phone call from Palin's office: The first gentleman would like to schedule a meeting with her boss.

"I was not familiar with the term 'first gentleman,' or didn't hear her correctly, so I kept asking her, 'Who?' " the secretary, Cassandra Byrne, testified recently. "And she eventually said, 'Todd Palin.' "

The appointment was fixed, and Monegan arrived in the governor's office to find himself alone with the brawny, popular fisherman and snowmobile champion, who was sitting at a 12-foot-long conference table, surrounded by stacks of documents. One of the documents had the logo and letterhead of Monegan's own Department of Public Safety.

The subject, it turned out, was Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a messy divorce with the governor's sister. The Palins, Todd made clear, wanted Wooten fired for a long record of behavior they saw as inappropriate for a police officer.

"He kept using the term 'we.' 'We went to go talk to, we, we.' And so I assumed it was he and Sarah, of course," Monegan testified.

The meeting "made me a little uncomfortable," he said. "We're having it in the governor's office, and he's not the governor. I think he was trying to use state trappings to handle a personal issue.""

http://www.latimes.com/business/careers/work/la-na-todd12-2008oct12,0,6898674.story

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 12, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Watch McCAin Drop the F word while talking to reporters. http://www.mccanes.com

Huckabee Claims that their is Economic Terrorism Happening in the Stock Market.
http://www.HuckabeeShow.com

Watch This Debate Outtake. What you didnt see during the debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mng0njC1D6c

Posted by: pastor123 | October 12, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

The woman is a sleazy creep whose notoriety for her total lack of ethics, even to the point of denying that she's done anything wrong, will cause help cause the landslide defeat of the GOP. A defeat which is so richly deserved. Liars, thieves, crooks and idiots. Bush's approval rating is just 1 point higher than Nixon's the day before he was (forced) to resign. The country is bankrupt thanks to the swell economic marvels, again just one the Repug's areas of 'expertise'-take the money and RUN!!!
Entrenched in a war we had no business starting; can't afford to run properly, and will in fact lose, taking with it the lives of many of America's best & brightest not to mention untold billions wasted when our infrastructure is crumbling. Social Security totttering on the brink. Banks taken over to avoid a complete and total crash. A corrupt bailout of Wall Street Corporations who took the money and spent it on smear campaigns in a transparent attmept to defeat the enemy,(Obama/Biden). And the list just goes on and on. What a mess. No, Palin didn't do ALL this, she's too dumb. It took the whole mob. And I do mean Mob, as in short for Mobsters. But she is part of it, and has displayed it in every possible way.

Posted by: rojomi | October 12, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!

Women must unite against the liberal media vicious, sexist, cruel, demeaning, contemptuous UN-AMERICAN, unfair, unprofessional, unrelenting and blatantly biased treatment against Vice President Sarah Palin and acting blatantly in favor of Barack Hussein Obama during this unprecedented historic quest for the presidency!

Barack Hussein Obama claims a mightier throne, one forged in liberal ideals of justice and equality and hope, BUT he has benefited mightily from sexism in this campaign, and has remained silent. Obama supporters seem very happy with the sexist way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by Sarah Palin, and many believe that most of the "venom" in the campaign is coming from supporters of Obama.

Women of America Unite in this defining moment in American history. To ensure we can grow up from the male dominated government that has caused many of the problems our country is facing; to a country where men and women are equal partners in governance.

Women of America Unite
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!
VOTE for McCain/Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 12, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Not even in office and already scandles. Worst VP pick in history.

Posted by: tculver | October 12, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Say it ain't so Joe!
Joe should get right on how Palin is such a great reformer of good ethics like hiding gov. email.

Posted by: piemcj | October 12, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

SHRED OF EVIDENCE

NEWSWIRE--Vice president Dick Cheney has been ordered to retain all records from his time in office.

You say my records must remain intact;
You'll only ask to look as last resort.
Some hope they'll prove my good intent. In fact,
Some might be better used as proof in court.

www.newsandverse.com
Light verse, ripped from the headlines

Posted by: newsandverse | October 12, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Pete posted something about a Palin HouseGate scandle that was coming out of Alaska soon. I did some looking and I haven't found too much. We know about the per diem payment of 17,000 Palin collected even though she was home the majority of the time. There is also a mention of another $13,000 that had something to do with payments and church. I tried to find out more about this and couldn't. If anyone else can find info, could you share it?

Posted by: leah1946 | October 12, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Some of the haters in the US remind me of the haters in Australia who just hate anyone who is not white or just like them.

Palin is clearly a loose cannon who should never have been selected but the neocons just had to have one of their own installed.

Repent at leisure if you vote for McCain/Palin because the rest of the world sure has suffered enough with Bush/Cheney and we don't want any more of it.

Those two have bankrupted the planet, more people than ever are dying of war and starvation due to them and we don't want to take any more of it.

Palin is clearly sleazy and dishonest.

Posted by: shepherdmarilyn | October 12, 2008 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Reasonable, rational Republicans should and women who pick Palin because of her gender should think very carefully before they cast their votes. Do they want a president who has no consideration of ethics, very limited knowledge of government, allows her husband to use her office for personal purposes and use gutter tactics (bigotry, character smear, inuendos) in the election? Palin has litle credibility outside the US, except in the opinion of the Pakistani President who wanted to hug her. As an American, I regard his flippant remark more of an insult than a compliment.

Posted by: nagamas1 | October 12, 2008 5:39 AM | Report abuse

What Palin should have asked hereself, is what can she do for her country, not what her country can do for her?

So far she has gotten alot out of being a governor, you would think she at least owed the American people honesty!

She used her politcal power, and goverment job to handle a personal dispute. No sense of ethics!

Posted by: vicbennettnet | October 12, 2008 5:12 AM | Report abuse

Again more troubling info about a candidate who could be only one heart beat away from the Presidency.

Is this the way that we want to run our democatic institutions. Is the "first dude" an elected official? What official role does the Alaska State constution provide for the "first dude".

Comments by the Republican vice-Presidential nominee made during the recent VP debate about expanding the US consitutional role of the vice-President, are even more worrying with the recent revelations about private email accounts and the role of the "first dude" in Troopergate.

Posted by: TomSeattle1 | October 12, 2008 4:01 AM | Report abuse


(See Papasmoke's response, below, to this)

ANGRY GOP RALLY SHOUTERS: ARE THEY AGIT-PROP PLANTS?

Politico reporters should spend some time on the periphery of these rallies, in the hours before the scheduled event.

They might discern that some of the most vociferous rabble-rousers hang together in packs, don't quite look like your "average Joe," and appear to be part of an orchestrated "street theater" -- not necessarily a reflection of spontaneous crowd enthusiasm. Examine closely their attire, and the electronics they are carrying.

Could they be the "stromtroopers" in a troubling offensive?

ARE THESE THE AGITATED 'CUDA STORM-TROOPERS?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens OR

members.nowpublic.com/scrivener
Posted by: scrivener50 | October 11, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse
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I saw a video of people entering a Palin Mccain rally and they were carrying what looked like professionally printed signs saying "Terrorist" and "Traitor". At the rallies you can see them waving them. If Palin and John Mccain didn't want that they would have been stopped at the door and had the signs taken away. Those rallies have very strong security. It leads me to believe they were supplied with the signs by Mccain and palin.

Posted by: popasmoke | October 11, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

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PAPASMOKE RAISES A FRIGHTENING POSSIBILITY:

...That the heated verbal incitements at McCain-Palin events are an INSIDE JOB, officially sanctioned.

Think of the ramifications...

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 12, 2008 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Pete: Actually my first thought was of Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker and their air conditioned dog house. I don't know if that is the kind of thing "coming out of Alaska". Just sharing a thought.

Posted by: leah1946 | October 12, 2008 2:42 AM | Report abuse

Pete, Where are you getting your info? Enquiring minds want to know. I don't know about her house, but with all the "secret" email boxes, you know something is going on.

Posted by: leah1946 | October 12, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Brace yourself, folks. Reports coming out of Alaska are indicating some new revelations about the Palin family home. Kind of reminds me of the Senator Ted Stevens scandal. This one could be better.
They are calling this the "PalinHouseGate" scandal. OUCH !!!, this one could leave a mark. Stay tuned.

Posted by: WashingtonPete | October 12, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

OMG-this actually makes sense.

H O L Y S M O K E S ! ! !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&eurl

Posted by: thejaner | October 12, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

The idea of doing any government business with unsecured email accounts is dangerously thoughtless. The idea of letting one's civilian spouse into any government business account should be illegal. Not handing over government associated emails when told to do so should also be illegal. What was the Palin duo involved in as a couple? Whether or not McCain/Palin win/lose this election, I'll bet there is going to be a major shake up in Gov. Palin's administration......and a better than even chance it won't be pretty for the Palins. Why do we seem to see Alaskan Republicans (one who "used" to be close to her) going after her? Could it be she did a "number" on Alaskan Republicans? (Yup! She did actually) Could it also mean that after she did her "number", she then started her own brand of politics, essentially pooping on those that had previously supportrd her? Yup...She did actually! Then, did she start hiding her actions? It would seem as though she did. I'm sure this is going to play out to her detriment in coming weeks. One should becareful who they "poop" on as they reach for their goals. Those same people will be back with their shovels! And they are!

Posted by: leah1946 | October 11, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

An interview with the crazy old lady that called Obama "an Arab" and McCain corrected her:

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/interview-with-crazy-old-lady-who.html


Even more racist McCain rally goers:

Here is the video:

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-racist-rally-goers-pt-3.html

This is the worst yet...

Watch this coward, who brought a monkey with an Obama hat to a McCain rally, try and pass it off to a hapless child.

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-racist-rally-goers-pt-4-obama.html

Posted by: Snakeheader | October 11, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

if she copies emails from a Yahoo acct for her first Dude hubby what will she do once she officially becomes US President?

there's an expression ... where the 1st generation builds, second maintains & the third squanders all. Took W only eight years to tear down America's economy, her image abroad & international financial reputation.

I believe Palin's insight will do more, in far fewer years.

Posted by: hchiba | October 11, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

This whole thing is sad, just sad.
Let's see the emails of all our elected officials. I'm sure they are squeaky-clean, every single one of 'em, right?

Has nobody figured out yet that politicians only come in one package at heart? A rose is a rose is a rose.

I am voting for experience and character this election, as well as who will work towards saving...not destroying by spending every dime... our economy. That's it. I couldn't give a hoot about the email thing.

My little daughter deserves the America that I know and love, not some skewed dream of socialism, no matter how temporarily compelling. I worry that no matter who gets elected, we are still in the midst of a partisan Civil War that will only get worse as time goes by.

Stop the insane spending, Washington.
Oh. I forgot. Only "roses" there... *sigh*

Posted by: KittenKlawz | October 11, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Check out this video of a McCain supporter who brought a monkey to a rally and once he realized he was on tape he tries to pass the monkey to a child:

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-racist-rally-goers-pt-4-obama.html

Posted by: Snakeheader | October 11, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

I can type in ALL CAPS to make my POINT because I don't know how to use my WORDS. Disjointed SENTENCES come alive. Declarative NOUN SUBJECT sometimes VERBS. No thinking REQUIRED, just watch me SCREAM my thoughts into the ETHER.

Posted by: gjcomm | October 11, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

CoolPillow,
Go take your meds and hit the bed. Your brain must be hurting from such deep thoughts

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 11, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

This "Trooopergate" is "Nothing-Gate."

NOW that the Main Stream Media is ACTUALLY putting a little out there.

Obama is a LIAR -A THIEF - and a SOCIALIST.

Put your Kool Aid down Obamabots.

You have Google- USE IT.
Obama is trying to take over our country.

Like he TRIED to do in Kenya for his CUZ-
Odinga didnt't win-
But they sure DID kill a lot of folks-
Thanks to OBAMA

Posted by: CoolPillow | October 11, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

MENACING GOP RALLY ROUSERS: AGIT-PROP PLANTS?

They may look like average Americans... but are some of those angry McCain-Palin rally rabble-rousers part of a nationwide network of civilians that are being used for "extrajudicial" targeting, agitating and harassment?

WaPo reporters should spend some time on the periphery of these rallies, in the hours before the scheduled event.

They might discern that some of the most vociferous rabble-rousers hang together in packs, don't quite look like your "average Joe," and appear to be part of an orchestrated "street theater" -- not necessarily a reflection of spontaneous crowd enthusiasm. Examine closely their attire, and the electronics they are carrying.

Could they be the "stormtroopers" in a troubling offensive?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens OR

members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 11, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Can we now please see Roves e-mails, where he discusses how to fire US attoneys who won't indict Democratic politicians on trupt up charges just before elections?? Constitution? Who cares, it's all about serving the President or else.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 11, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

"Judge orders Palin administration to preserve e-mails

PRIVATE ACCOUNTS: Any dealing with state business will have to be retrieved."

"An Anchorage judge on Friday ordered Gov. Sarah Palin and others in her office to retrieve and preserve any e-mails from private accounts that concern state business.

The ruling came in a lawsuit against Palin -- the GOP vice presidential nominee -- filed by Andree McLeod, an Anchorage activist and former state worker.

Anchorage Superior Court Judge Craig Stowers called the case "important."

The state is bustling to comply but first has to figure out what e-mails still exist, said Mike Mitchell, assistant attorney general.

"We entered into the hearing ... willing to work to preserve those e-mails that do relate to state business that may have been sent to or from private accounts, to the extent they can be preserved at this point," Mitchell said.

The e-mails need to be retrieved from the private e-mail businesses, brought into the state system, and released "as appropriate under the public records act," Mitchell said.

The case is one of the first in the nation addressing how 20th-century public records laws apply to 21st-century technology like BlackBerrys, he said.

McLeod said state workers generally use the state system because it is more secure, and e-mails are then available for archiving and for public records requests.

"For the governor not to have done so is beyond my understanding," McLeod said. "The only thing I can figure out is yeah, she wanted to keep things secret.""

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/552784.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 11, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

HAHA She's a common thug. Awesome. Chaney with no brains.

Posted by: notbuyinganyofit | October 11, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

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