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Palin Talks to Alaska Reporters about Troopergate

By James V. Grimaldi
Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin this weekend disregarded an ethics investigator's finding that she had abused her executive power as Alaska's governor and instead embraced a second finding in the report to say that she had been cleared of wrongfully firing her state public safety commissioner.

Investigator Stephen Branchflower's 263-page report said Palin breached state ethics laws when she, her husband and members of her administration tried to get the ex-husband of her younger sister fired as an Alaska state trooper. A second finding determined that Palin was within her right to fire public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, even if she did so in part because he didn't bow to pressure to sack the trooper.

In a Saturday conference call with Alaska journalists, Palin said she was "pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there." She denounced the investigation, calling it "a partisan circus." The McCain-Palin campaign said that she and her family had good reason to try to get the trooper fired.

A transcript of the brief conference call was posted on the Web sites of TV station KTUU and the Anchorage Daily News. In the call, Palin was asked, "Do you think you did anything wrong at all in this troopergate case?" The governor replied, "Not at all. And I'll tell you -- I think that you're always going to ruffle feathers if you do what you believe is in the best interests of the people whom you are serving."

The trouble with the trooper began when Palin's sister, Molly McCann, divorced Trooper Mike Wooten in 2005, igniting a family feud and child custody fight. Palin's family filed a complaint with the Alaska State Troopers that launched an internal affairs investigation of Wooten, who was found to have violated state policies when he used a Taser on his stepson, shot a female moose illegally and made statements that were unbecoming of an officer.

Even after Wooten had been suspended without pay for five days, the Palin family continued to work to get Wooten fired, Branchflower said. The ethics report determined that the governor's actions and failure to rein in her husband amounted to an abuse of power because she was pursuing a personal vendetta rather than serve the public interest.

Branchflower provided an example, one of 18 separate events, that showed the effort continued before and after she became governor. In October 2006, as Palin was on the verge of being elected governor, Todd Palin first raised his complaints about an Alaska state trooper. It was in a conversation with a campaign aide who later took a top job in the Palin administration.

"We were talking about odds and ends," John Bitney recalled in an interview with the state investigator. Then, Todd Palin changed the subject, saying "There were family problems with the trooper."

At the time of the conversation, Sarah Palin was on the verge of a win that would catapult her into national spotlight. She had already stunned the state with the defeat of powerful Republican incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski. She was on the verge of beating former two-term Gov. Tony Knowles.

"I said 'I'll check it out,' or 'let me see what I can do,'" Bitney said. "My recollection of my own sense was, you know, here's a friend and, if you will, the Governor's husband, who's ... got a problem."

Eventually, Todd Palin carried the discussions with Bitney into the Palin administration. The First Gentleman repeated his frustration in numerous visits and phone calls after Bitney became a top aide to Gov. Palin.

"You know, when the First Gentleman comes into your office and says you got a problem, you sort of feel compelled to look into it and see if something can be done," Bitney said.

Bitney took the matter to Palin chief-of-staff Mike Tibbles, who called state Commissioner of Public Safety Walter Monegan. Tibbles was one of more than a half dozen officials who called Monegan about Wooten to complain.

In each case, Monegan told them that Wooten had been investigated and disciplined for the violations. Because the matter had been settled, Monegan couldn't reopen the case without running afoul of state personnel rules and would not be likely to prevail under mandatory arbitration rules of the state.

"Such impermissible and repeated contacts create conflicts of interests for subordinate employees who must choose to either please a superior or run the risk of facing that superior's displeasure," Branchflower wrote. The report was posted on the Internet Friday night after a bipartisan committee voted unanimously to make it public.

Palin's representatives have said the family made the contacts because she was afraid of the trooper and was fearful of a "violent" and "rogue" police officer. But Branchflower said that contention was "not bona fide." He wrote, "In almost every contact with subordinate employees, Mr. Palin's comments were couched in terms of his desire to see Trooper Wooten fired for reasons that had nothing to do with fear. His comments were always couched in terms that he was a bad trooper, that he was not a good recruiting image for AST, that his discipline amounted to nothing more than a slap on the wrist, that nothing had happened to him following the administrative investigation, and so forth."

Palin answered Alaska news media questions as she was traveling between campaign events in Pennsylvania. She defended the way her campaign has been conducted in Alaska, according to the KTUU transcript.

Question: "A lot of people have voiced concerns about what they call 'attacks of good people.'"

Palin: "Well I haven't heard of any attacks on good people in Alaska from our campaign."
Question: "What about calling Monegan a rogue?"

Palin: "Rogue isn't a negative term when you consider that in a cabinet you need a team effort going forward with a governor's agenda. Our agenda has been to find efficiencies in every department. And make sure that we are serving the people of Alaska."

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In an interview Sarah spoke about plans for the future. Or she forgot that will be VP, or she no longer expects to become VP / watch at here: http://www.path.to/Sarah-Palin-FOX-interview-about-future/ wtf?... very interesting...)))

Posted by: varniklili | October 15, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

****AMERICA SHOULD BE FEARFULLY CONCERNED****

!!CORRUPTION!!
The Alaska Supreme Court has cleared for release to the public the Alaska State Legislature's (mostly Republicans) highly anticipated investigative report on whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power.

(note) Troopergate: In plain English, Sarah Palin has been PROVEN she broke Alaska State Ethics Law in abusing her power in pushing for the firing of a State Trooper once married to her sister and by ALLOWING her husband Todd Palin to use the Alaska Governor's Office in a crusade against the officer. Palin is found by Alaska Legislative Investigation (LAW) of Firing without reasonable "just cause" the Alaska State Public Safety Commissoner Walt Monegan.

ALASKA GOVERNOR Palin RECALL!
I am a Alaskan life voting Republican. This 2008 Election, I will [with pleasure] vote Democrat!

McCains V.P. selection Sarah Palin unequivocally has NO business being the Alaska Governor, let alone, a USA Candidate for Vice President…..

Maverick??.....”AMERICA SHOULD BE FEARFULLY CONCERNED”

I voted for Sarah Palin in Alaskas 2006 Governor Election. MISTAKE!.... Never Again… I repeat-NEVER AGAIN!!....Alaska Governor Palin is an absolute Embarrassment to the Alaska People(s) and "IS PROVEN” over and over to be an insatiable Liar!!...

How can she possibly ASSUME to possess the ability to clean up America, when she cannot clean the progressive ''MESS" She has created…then left Alaska to run for the United States V.P.? Yes,---Left “HER and Her husband todd palins” Mess FOR Alaskans to Clean-Up!!

MCCAIN, you should be ASHAMED of yourself!!!! This victim (palin) has no business in this Presidential Arena.

Posted by: AlaskanVoter

Thank You Washington Post
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AlaskaPolitics adn.com

Posted by: Alaskanvoter | October 15, 2008 5:33 AM

Posted by: Alaskanvoter | October 15, 2008 7:00 AM | Report abuse

"Palin Fired the Police Chief and the Library Director—Then Said She Did Not Fire Them But Sent Them “Intent to Terminate” Letters. In 1997, Palin fired Police Chief Irl Stambaugh and Library Director Mary Ellen Emmons. The Frontiersman wrote, “After news of the of the dismissals broke Thursday night, Palin said she never meant to fire Stambaugh and Emmons. ‘It was an intent to terminate letter to discuss my intent to terminate them or for them to submit resignations.’” Palin wrote in her letter, “I do not feel I have your full support in my efforts to govern the city of Wasilla.” [Frontiersman, 2/5/97]

Palin Rehired Library Director after Cementing Her Support. The Frontiersman wrote, “Palin said she cemented Emmons’ support Friday afternoon for her new plan to join the library and museum departments and felt like she could continue to work with Emmons. Her plan will create more efficiency within the departments, Palin said, making better use of the public’s money.”
[Frontiersman, 2/5/97]

Council Member Pushed To Create City Manager Because He Said Palin Did Not Have Skills to Run Wasilla. In 1997, a councilman made a push to create a city manager position in Wasilla. The Frontiersman reported, “Wasilla voters may get the chance to transform the city to the city manager form of government under a proposal by Wasilla councilman Nick Carney…He said he thinks Palin does not have the management skills to run the City of Wasilla.” [Frontiersman, 2/21/97]

Palin Said She Didn’t Fire Police Chief Because He Supported Her Opponent, But When He Sued, a Judge Ruled It Would Be Allowed If She Had. “Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin says she didn’t fire Police Chief Irl Stambaugh three years ago because he supported her election opponent John Stein. But even if it was the reason, she was within her rights to give the police chief the boot, a federal judge ruled. The police chief serves at the discretion of the mayor, and can be terminated for nearly any reason, even a political one, U.S. District Court Judge James K. Singleton ruled in dismissing most of Stambaugh’s claims against the city. ‘Palin’s lack of confidence in Stambaugh’s loyalty to her and her policies for Wasilla provided sufficient justification for her actions . . .,’ he wrote in.” [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska),
3/1/00]

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

It's a bit scary that this early on in her political career she's abusing power. Do we really need another politician in the white house who is this corrupt.

Time for a change, time for someone who isn't in the pockets of special interests.

Let's here for real solutions and not sound bites.

A bit of comic relief for this election in serious times. Sarah and Todd talke about God

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwpycIPMHyk

Posted by: everythingmatters | October 13, 2008 7:57 PM | Report abuse

She understands it better than Biden did during their debate.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 13, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

sounds as if Palin has about the same level of "understanding" of the report as she does the Constitution's description of the VP's role in the Senate...

Posted by: pcpatterson | October 13, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight....."

Obama - If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."

Palin - Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

Obama - If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic "Muslim".

Palin - Name your kids Willow , Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

Obama - Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Palin - Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

Obama - If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a districtwith over 750,000 people, become chairman of the stateSenate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

Palin - If your total resume is: local sports reporter girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive and next in line behind a man (McCain) in his eighth decade.

Obama - If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.

McCain - If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and then left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a true Christian.

Obama - If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

Palin - If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system
while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

Obama - If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community,then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America 's.

Palin - If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is just a picture of "small town family values"?!?! HAHAHA!!!

OK, much clearer now...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 13, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Who Built Sarah's Half-Million Dollar House? Another Palin Scandal On The Way?


http://www.stopthinkvote.com/whatsnew/palinshouse.html


Interesting connections between Palin campaign contributors, architects and contractors, and the Palin's half million dollar, two-story, 3,450 square-foot house that Todd Palin said he built with some "buddies" - coincidentally at the same time that Sarah's $12.5 million sports complex was being built right down the road...

Posted by: dmwhipp | October 13, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"Investigator Stephen Branchflower's 263-page report said Palin breached state ethics laws when she, her husband and members of her administration tried to get the ex-husband of her younger sister fired as an Alaska state trooper."

Palin said she was "pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."

"The McCain-Palin campaign said that she and her family had good reason to try to get the trooper fired."


WHAT!?! ...Do these people always talk out of both sides of their mouth? Oh wait... I guess so:

"She denounced the investigation, calling it a partisan circus."

THERE WERE 10 REPUBLICANS AND 4 DEMOCRATS ON THAT INVESTIGATIVE PANEL.

...Apparently NEO-CONS can claim the sky is green and the grass is blue and their voters will shut their eyes and nod in agreement!

TIME FOR SANITY AND INTELLECT IN THE WHITEHOUSE AND GOVERNMENT!~

Vote Obama/Biden

Posted by: onestring | October 13, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

lets try this again...

PALIN HAS BEEN FOUND TO HAVE BROKEN THE LAW.

Not because she fired Monegan, but because she and her husband led a witch hunt against her ex-brother-in-law using the resources and power of the the governer's offce.

So get it through your thick, conservadrone skulls...SHE BROKE THE LAW

NOW she is NOT guilty becuase the investigation is not a court of law. The investigator found that she broke the law and that IS a premise for a criminal trial, impeachment, censure or whatever it is they do up there.

Get it? Got it? Good.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

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Phil, A Google search for "documented Obama lies" gets hits showing up to 155 documented lies. This one shows 60:

http://giorocks.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/olie-a-thon/

Looks like Obama has been more untrurhful than Palin.
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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

*Gov. Palin, when a Wasilla city council member, formed an alliance with some of the more radical far-right citizens in Wasilla and vicinity, particularly members of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party who were allied with local John Birch Society activists. These activists played an important role in her election as Wasilla mayor in 1996.
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*Once mayor, one of Mrs. Palin’s first acts was to attempt to appoint one of these extremists (a man named Steve Stoll) to her own seat on the city council. This was a man with a history of disrupting city council meetings with intimidating behavior. She was blocked by a single city council member.
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*Afterward, Mrs. Palin fired the city’s museum director at the behest of this faction.
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*Palin fomented an ultimately successful effort to derail a piece of local gun-control legislation which would simply have prohibited the open carry of firearms into schools, liquor stores, libraries, courthouses and the like. The people recruited to shout this ordinance down included these same figures, notably the local AIP representative (who became the AIP’s chairman that same year).
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*Palin remained associated politically with the local AIP/Birch faction throughout her tenure as mayor on other issues, particularly a successful effort to amend the Alaska Constitution to prohibit local governments from issuing any local gun-control ordinances.


In general, they found that not only did Mrs. Palin have numerous associations with these extremists, she actively sought to empower them locally and to enact their agendas both locally and on a state level.
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http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palins-dalliances-with-wasillas.html
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So, McCain's cute lil' sidekick, that all-American hockey mom, the "pitbull with lipstick" that the cable news networks just couldn't get enough of for weeks, is actually so far removed from mainstream American politics and ideals that it's impossible to imagine her ever handling the job for which she has been recruited.


Palin may inspire the rightwing lunitic fringers, and she may be able to tell voters the best way to store their gold and guns when the black helicopters come, but she's clearly the worst possible choice McCain could have made for his potential successor.
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 13, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

If you weren't already convinced that McCain's team had no idea what they were doing when they chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, you will be after reading this story.


MEET SARAH PALIN'S RIGHTWING LUNITIC FRINGE PALS FROM ALASKA:
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"Though Chryson belongs to a fringe political party, one that advocates the secession of Alaska from the Union, and that organizes with other like-minded secessionist movements from Canada to the Deep South, he is not without peculiar influence in state politics, especially the rise of Sarah Palin. An obscure figure outside of Alaska, Chryson has been a political fixture in the hometown of the Republican vice-presidential nominee for over a decade. During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her political agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin's campaign financially, they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory."
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"Palin backed Chryson as he successfully advanced a host of anti-tax, pro-gun initiatives, including one that altered the state Constitution's language to better facilitate the formation of anti-government militias. She joined in their vendetta against several local officials they disliked, and listened to their advice about hiring. She attempted to name Stoll, a John Birch Society activist known in the Mat-Su Valley as "Black Helicopter Steve," to an empty Wasilla City Council seat. "Every time I showed up her door was open," said Chryson. "And that policy continued when she became governor."
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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/
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So let's get this straight. John McCain's team chose someone whose political career was tightly interwoven with - and supported by - extremists. Not just average wingnuts. Extremists. Radicals. A secessionist and a paranoid militia organizer.
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Posted by: DrainYou | October 13, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

PALIN HAS BEEN FOUND TO HAVE BROKEN THE LAW.

Not because she fired Monegan, but because she and her husband led a witch hunt against her ex-brother-in-law using the resources and power of the the governer's offce.

So get it through your thick, conservadrone skulls...SHE BROKE THE LAW

NOW she is NOT guilty becuase the investigation is not a court of law. The investigator found that she broke the law and that IS a premise for a criminal trial, impeachment, censure or whatever it is they do up there.

Get it? Got it? Good.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Do you mean like this part of the findings?

"Finding One


For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39/52/110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides

The legislature reaffirms that every public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."


"Palin was not found guilty, so let it go.

The commissioner is just a disgruntled employee who was rightly fired for his budget disclosures with the governor.

Read the findings.

Posted by: blevins20061"

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

This woman has a SERIOUS problem with facing cold, hard facts doesn't she? She is kind of person who would stand there in a camo vest, look you in the eye and tell you it was red velvet and never bat an eye.

Posted by: gtnaustin | October 13, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of who the trooper was married to, he deserved to be fired for using a taser on his step-son. He has a history of alcohol abuse and a checkered record.

Palin was not found guilty, so let it go.

The commissioner is just a disgruntled employee who was rightly fired for his budget disclosures with the governor.

Read the findings.

Posted by: blevins20061 | October 13, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Question asked of Palin: "What about calling Monegan a rogue?"
Palin: "Rogue isn't a negative term when you consider that in a cabinet you need a team effort going forward with a governor's agenda."

I would have thought being a rogue just might be kinda like being, oh gosh! a maverick. I'm wondering how many of McCain's campaign people are wishing Palin was just a bit less of a "rogue" when she publicly disagrees with McCain's positions.

Posted by: MNyoubetcha | October 13, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Can Sarah Palin not read? She apparently missed the part in the report where it said she acted unethically and abused her power trying to get Monegan fired. What an idiot.

Posted by: katie84 | October 13, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

ARE THE McCAIN-PALIN CROWD AGITATORS THE SAME STORMTROOPERS WHO DO THIS:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 13, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

See the best Sarah Palin impersonators, short clip. Very Funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMebGbcC2Sg

See What they didnt show during the debate
What the media didnt cover, the debate outtakes. A tense moment between tom brokaw and John McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mng0njC1D6c

Posted by: pastor123 | October 13, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Verrazzano: Another thing dude, by spotlight I meant the investigation.

I hope you vote in favor stem cell research, becuase it is the only chance you and the other conservadrones have of ever growing a brain.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

"Palin Makes Troopergate Assertions that Are Flatly False"

"But it finds that Palin "knowingly, as that term is defined in ... statutes, permitted Todd Palin to use the Governor's office and the resources of the Governor's office, including access to state employees, to continue to contact subordinate state employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten fired. Her conduct violated AS 39.52.110(a) of the Ethics Act..."

The report states: "I find that Governor Sarah Palin Abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act ... Compliance with the code of ethics is not optional..."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/palin-makes-tro.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Verranzzano:

Did Sarah Palin break the law?

Yes. She and her husband engaged in a witch hunt against her ex-brother-in-law using the power and resources of the governer's office, thus breaking the Ethics Statute.NOT because she fired Monegan.

Now she ain't guilty because the investigation is not a court of law. But the investigator DID say she broke the law. This IS grounds for further action, like a criminal trial, impeachment, censure whatever they do up there.

Verrandude, you're playing the sucker.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

From toritto's link...

"According to a report in this week's Time magazine, the Virginia party chairman, Del. Jeffrey M. Frederick (R-Prince William), told Virginia volunteers working for GOP nominee John McCain that Obama and bin Laden "both have friends that bombed the Pentagon."

"That is scary," Frederick said while providing talking points to GOP volunteers in western Prince William County as they prepared for a door-to-door canvass.

Several McCain surrogates have blasted Obama for his association with Ayers, but few, if any, have invoked bin Laden.

Yesterday, Frederick said he stood by the comparison, even though bin Laden planned the Sept. 11, 2001, attack on the Pentagon that killed 184 people and Obama was a child and hadn't met Ayers when the Weather Underground planted a bomb at the Pentagon in 1972. No one was hurt in that blast, in which a bomb exploded in a restroom and caused flooding and damage to computer tapes containing classified information."

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Verrazzano wrote, “This opinion from a legislative committee is worthless. And it has done nothing to sway public opinion from one side or the other.”

For die-hard Palin supporters, her head could spin a 360 while she spewed pea soup and they still wouldn’t be swayed.

What is more telling than the report itself is that Sarah Palin insists on blatently lying about it.

Posted by: Deeva | October 13, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

thenotoriousflavio - Nice try but what spotlight? Whining from Monegan? She could have fired him for the way he combed his hair. He was a political appointee. There were plenty of problems with Monegan and she was well within her authority to remove him. This opinion from a legislative committee is worthless. And it has done nothing to sway public opinion from one side or the other.

Posted by: Verrazzano | October 13, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Somebody need to do a story on the APATHETIC RESPONSE OF THE PRESS to this issue.

I swear! This is 2003-5 all over again with the press.

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?!?

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Verrazzano:
"Did his replacement fire the state trooper?

Once you answer that question, clearly there is no abuse whatsoever."

Bad logic dude. As soon as Monegan was fired, the spotlight was on the corruption. Palin's brain cell would have to of misfired to let THAT happen again.

Wake up Verrazzano, you're playing the sucker.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

The "troopergate" incident sounds to be an ignorant attempt to show power. Both Palin's should pack up and go back to Alaska, where Mrs. Palin can serve out her term and go back where she belongs, watching hockey games... What does this country need this mentality ( or lack of) for ? We have had enough!

Posted by: clark6715 | October 13, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Too many of us are going to get ulcers on these boards.

I'm going to have a second cup of coffee. read my paper and smake a macanudo on my screened-in patio.

Its a lovely day where I am with just a hint of fall in the air. The cat is sitting outside licking its paws and enjoying life as well.

Enjoy! The Republithugs and the Libtards will wait for us a while.........

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 13, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Did Sarah Palin break the law?

Yes. She and her husband engaged in a witch hunt against her ex-brother-in-law using the power and resources of the governer's office. NOT because she fired Monegan.

Now this isn't nearly as bad as what McCain did in the KEATING 5, but she did do it this year while being a contender for the vp spot.

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE!?!?

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Think of It!...

Sarah and Todd Palin's finger on the Red Button

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

As for abuse, she fired Monegan. Ask yourself this question:

Did his replacement fire the state trooper?

Once you answer that question, clearly there is no abuse whatsoever.

Posted by: Verrazzano | October 13, 2008 9:40 AM | Report abuse

CNN is busy playing the race card for McCain. No wonder he decided to stop his foul attacks. They’re doing his dirty work for him.
Ostensibly, they are debating the Bradley effect but what they are really debating Obama’s electability . In addition they are now quoting Castro in Cuba regarding race. It seems he too, likes Obama . This is disgusting.
Even Fox would not stoop this low.
They follow in the footsteps of that paragon of virtue, Palin.

THE FIX IS IN AT CNN.


Posted by: seemstome | October 13, 2008 8:02 AM | Report abuse

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The fix is in at CNN all right. But not as you think. The fix is for Obama and their race episodes are backfiring. CNN is playing the race card for Obama. In no way are they in it for Palin.

Posted by: Verrazzano | October 13, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Think of it....Sarah and Todd Palin in the White House

Posted by: elaine21 | October 13, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

"The McCain-Palin campaign said that she and her family had good reason to try to get the trooper fired."

The Bush-Cheyne administration had a good reason to release the name of Valerie Plame. They also had a good reason to start a war with Iraq!

McCain-Palin are not in the White house and they are already using the Bush-Chenye doctrine of justifying unethical practices.

Bush and Palin are Evangelical Christians that want people to live life in a honest manner, but are unable to do like wise.

Posted by: alan15 | October 13, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has historically abused her power of authority in Alaska- she has at least 2 misdemeanors on record - she also has current civil suit for withholding official correspondence - and she also ENDORSED MIKE WOOTEN and used her power to get him his job on the force to begin with (Her pdf letter of recommendation below) --- Really people, who do you know in government sets up a YAHOO (???) account to conduct government business? Currently, 1100 communications regarding her agendas about state and public interest were executed under "secret e-mail" accounts copied between her husband Todd Palin and state officials (note: Todd Palin is NOT an authorized state representative) and now she is trying to claim these communications "non public" record AFTER she already established that "transparency and honesty is her goal for government".

Apparently, transparency does NOT apply to Sarah Palin. Hence, the need for a REPUBLICAN (not a democrat!) who has filed in court for disclosure of these "secret records".

GOVERNOR PALIN ENDORSES MIKE WOOTEN - HERE'S HER LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION:
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site163/2008/0721/20080721_111415_PalinLetterofRecomend.pdf

Can it be any clearer? I will agree with the remarks that she is a "quick study"--- definitely she has proven herself to be a quick study of pushing rhetoric, condemnation, and preserving the control of an elite few- as has been seen under her administration. Check the facts before you believe her hype. She is also an offense to women everywhere with her cutesy Betty Boop "bar fly" persona. Sorry. American women deserve better than Sarah Palin.

Posted by: documom | October 13, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse

CNN is busy playing the race card for McCain. No wonder he decided to stop his foul attacks. They’re doing his dirty work for him.
Ostensibly, they are debating the Bradley effect but what they are really debating Obama’s electability . In addition they are now quoting Castro in Cuba regarding race. It seems he too, likes Obama . This is disgusting.
Even Fox would not stoop this low.
They follow in the footsteps of that paragon of virtue, Palin.

THE FIX IS IN AT CNN.

Posted by: seemstome | October 13, 2008 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Katy7540, where are you getting your information? Wikipedia says Todd Palin graduated from Wasilla High School. And Sarah may be a fool but 83 sounds like an internet myth.

Posted by: Deeva | October 13, 2008 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's IQ is 83. Todd Palin is a high school dropout. These two are one heartbeat away from the highest office in the country, if McCain is elected.

Posted by: Katy7540 | October 13, 2008 4:28 AM | Report abuse

Palin appears to be the perfect Republican as well as the perfect Evangelical. Out of the box, she has no sense of ethics and is dishonest as any experienced Washington politician. Or maybe this is what they meant when they said she was a "quick study". She is perhaps guided by some blind faith.

It appears that McCain/Palin will not win the election. I know, it's too soon to tell. But I'm hopeful. It's up to the people of Alaska to pass judgement on Palin for her deeds or misdeeds in Alaska. I believe in holding people accountable and, if Palin were governor of my state, I'd want her out of office ASAP. Furthermore, Sarah Palin's husband, who was not a state employee, was in possession of Wooten's personnel files and this was clearly unacceptable and probably illegal. These are not high crimes, but they certain reflect badly on the Palins and I'd not want them running any government with authority over me.

McCain should cut her lose and find a new running mate ASAP. I've never seen a less impressive woman in national politics and personally have known a few women who work full time, have children and are more intelligent, competent, and tenacious (but honest as well) than Sarah Palin. No. She was not vetted by John McCain or his staff. I will grant that Sarah Palin is a rough equivalent of VP Dan Quayle, but that's not much of a compliment.

Oh, look! There's Wiel complaining that the print and visual media failing to investigate ACORN and community organizers in Chicago. Maybe, just maybe there is nothing there to investigate. This "issue" been out there for some time, and I have complete faith that Republican apparatchiks have been rutting about like pigs hunting for truffles. If there were anything there, it would have been found by now. All we are getting is innuendo from McCain/Palin. And it's tiresome and damaging to McCain/Palin...self-inflicted wounds and it's not pretty. The Palin Troopergate issue was investigated by a panel appointed by the Alaska legislature; the media didn't have to do much but read the report.

Posted by: ptgrunner | October 13, 2008 3:40 AM | Report abuse

correction: insulted BY

Posted by: zosima | October 13, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Tom22,

You sound really racist. A lot of the immigrants coming to the US were doctors, professors, business people, etc...Intelligent and talented people. They come to the US to find opportunities and end up driving cabs or waiting tables. The last thing they need is to be insulted bigots like yourself.

Posted by: zosima | October 13, 2008 3:11 AM | Report abuse

Tom22

Most people come here because they want to work.

Look, buddy, we won't see eye to eye on this. That's cool, keep engaging people. You might learn something.

Just be glad you don't have to apply for citizenship. You wouldn't qualify.

And don't draw any conclusions about me. My family arrived here before there was a United States.

Thanks for your comments. I'm shutting it down for tonight.

Regards to all

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 13, 2008 3:04 AM | Report abuse

"Tom22

Sir,

Which part of the pledge of allegiance do you find offensive?

Posted by: JohnQuimby"

I don't find the PLEDGE offensive but what I do find offensive is the subtext of your statement which suggests you believe every immigrant that comes to the U.S. has the CAPACITY to understand it and or INTEREST in believing. Most Immigrants who have come here since the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act was passed want to come here for one reason only:

To Game the System.

Posted by: Tom22 | October 13, 2008 2:57 AM | Report abuse

"Tom22

I'm glad you're amused.

Since you didn't answer the question I'll point out that every new citizen swears allegiance to the flag of this country and swears to uphold our laws.

Now its your turn.


Posted by: JohnQuimby"

...and after they say the Pledge of Allegiance they join the chorus of people who hate American and complain about it's racist, horrible past. BTW, if we live in such a horrible country for immigrants why do they all immediately start trying to bring their whole entired extended family here? Most of the Immigrants who come to the U.S. today are not from Western European cultures that value hard-work, free speech, and obeying the law. They are from cultures that just want to GAME THE SYSTEM and bow down to whatever Tyrant Dictator is currently ruling their Third World Country.

Posted by: Tom22 | October 13, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

"Tom22:

See you would have fit right in...

"Even as the boat was docking, these immigrants to America learned that life in America was going to be a battle for survival....

"Our immigrant ancestors were not wanted in America. Ads for employment often were followed by "NO IRISH NEED APPLY." They were forced to live in cellars and shanties, partly because of poverty but also because they were considered bad for the neighborhood.....

"The Chicago Post wrote, "The Irish fill our prisons, our poor houses...Scratch a convict or a pauper, and the chances are that you tickle the skin of an Irish Catholic....

http://www.kinsella.org/history/histira.htm

Posted by: nowanna3"

The Irish should be thankful that this is how they were greeted as it gave them an incentive to get jobs, save money, depend on themselves, and build a future.

Today they would get BILINGUAL EDUCATION to insure there kids never spoke English and thus could become cemended in the underclass and become a nicel VOTING BLOC for Liberal Elites.

Today they could vote in their own language because of the 1975 Voting Rights Act.

Today they could get Food Stamps, Welfare, and Section 8 Housing Vouchers.

The Irish and Italians didn't get any of the above that today's immigrants get and their much better off because of it.

Further, the 1965 Hart-Celler Act has so changed demographics in America overnight that we are more likely to become a Balkanized Nation than an Assimilated one.

Posted by: Tom22 | October 13, 2008 2:48 AM | Report abuse

or maybe here...

"Attacks on Italians were not limited to the printed page, however. From the late 1880s, anti-immigrant societies sprang up around the country, and the Ku Klux Klan saw a spike in membership. Catholic churches and charities were vandalized and burned, and Italians attacked by mobs. In the 1890s alone, more than 20 Italians were lynched.

One of the bloodiest episodes took place in New Orleans in 1891. When the chief of police was found shot to death on the street one night, the mayor blamed “Sicilian gangsters” and rounded up more than 100 Sicilian Americans. Eventually, 19 were put on trial and, as the nation’s Italian Americans watched nervously, were found not guilty for lack of evidence. Before they could be freed, however, a mob of 10,000 people, including many of New Orleans’ most prominent citizens, broke into the jail. They dragged 11 Sicilians from their cells and lynched them, including two men jailed on other offenses. Italians worldwide were outraged, but the U.S. press generally approved of the action. It was the largest single mass lynching in U.S. history."

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/learn/features/immig/alt/italian8.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 2:47 AM | Report abuse

Wow these right-wingers are starting to sound really crazy. The further they fall behind, the more desperate they get. They keep saying more and more outrageous things. But the more outrageous the lies, the less likely the reasonable Americans that matter will listen.

I'm sorry to hear this about Palin. This sort of petty corruption isn't going to get her in jail, but she certainly isn't doing Alaska or America any good with these self-serving antics.

I think we need a steady and methodical leader to get us through these problems. Obama has been showing us that he is exactly that. While McCain's campaign is thrashing around, with a different strategy every week, Obama has kept his eye on the ball. Obama's been calm, disciplined, and focused.

We don't need another cowboy president.

Posted by: zosima | October 13, 2008 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Tom22

I'm glad you're amused.

Since you didn't answer the question I'll point out that every new citizen swears allegiance to the flag of this country and swears to uphold our laws.

Now its your turn.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 13, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Tom22:

See you would have fit right in...

"Even as the boat was docking, these immigrants to America learned that life in America was going to be a battle for survival. Hundreds of runners, usually large greedy men, swarmed aboard the ship grabbing immigrants and their bags trying to force them to their favorite tenement house and then exact an outrageous fee for their services. As the poor immigrant had no means of moving on, they settled in the port of arrival. Almshouses were filled with these Irish immigrants. They begged on every street. One honest immigrant wrote home at the height of the potato famine exodus, "My master is a great tyrant, he treats me as badly as if I was a common Irishman." The writer further added, "Our position in America is one of shame and poverty." No group was considered lower than an Irishman in America during the 1850s."

"Our immigrant ancestors were not wanted in America. Ads for employment often were followed by "NO IRISH NEED APPLY." They were forced to live in cellars and shanties, partly because of poverty but also because they were considered bad for the neighborhood...they were unfamiliar with plumbing and running water. These living conditions bred sickness and early death. It was estimated that 80% of all infants born to Irish immigrants in New York City died. Their brogue and dress provoked ridicule; their poverty and illiteracy provoked scorn."

"The Chicago Post wrote, "The Irish fill our prisons, our poor houses...Scratch a convict or a pauper, and the chances are that you tickle the skin of an Irish Catholic. Putting them on a boat and sending them home would end crime in this country.""

http://www.kinsella.org/history/histira.htm

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 2:39 AM | Report abuse

"Tom22

Sir,

Which part of the pledge of allegiance do you find offensive?

Posted by: JohnQuimby"

I find it hilarious. I didn't even know Obama Zombies were permitted by their Messiah Obama to actually even recite it. I'm sure he'll ban it once in office as it was probably written by a "Typical White Guy" (AKA racist).

Posted by: Tom22 | October 13, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

"Tom22, maybe you don't remember how the Italian and Irish immigrants were treated in the past.

I would much rather have the unification of Obama than the polarization of McCain.

Posted by: nowanna3"

The Irish and the Italians were from societies that had SUPERIOR cultures and values than those of most immigrants who come here today. They Irish and Italians didn't need to do much other than learn the rules and get the language down.

These immigrants we have today are not interested in becoming Americans and come from cultures so INFERIOR that we have to practically train them to be Human Beings. Most WASPS like myself have given up hope that they'll ever actually assimilate. Heck, if they just quit breaking the law and/or leeching of my tax money I'd be happy.

As for the quote on the Statue of Liberty. I wish they'd take that off. I hope the poor, sick, tired, dumb, and stupid stay in their own country and don't come here.

Posted by: Tom22 | October 13, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

Tom22

Sir,

Which part of the pledge of allegiance do you find offensive?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 13, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse


"Tom22

One nation under God with liberty and justice for all.

Posted by: JohnQuimby"

You sound like one of those Reverse Discrimination Whiners who are against Affirmative Action and doesn't think White Privilege exists.

You need to BEWARE of stuff like this being written by Pat Buchanan:
"As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago."

Don't Listen to the Xenophobes and Racists. Vote for Senator Obama!

President Barack Obama will change America in many ways. Here are the reasons you SHOULD vote for Senator Obama for President:

Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
Increase H-1B Visas from 85,000 to 750,000
Increase Affirmative Action
Increase financial aid to minority students
Increase student loans to minority students
Increase L1 Visas to allow more foreign students in the U.S.
End White Privilege

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Tom22 | October 13, 2008 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Tom22, maybe you don't remember how the Italian and Irish immigrants were treated in the past.

Maybe you can keep in mind these words attributed to a certain lady from New York.

""Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


Assuming you are white as I am you are headed towards being a minority and may find your social security paid by those very "minorities" you seem to have a problem with.

I would much rather have the unification of Obama than the polarization of McCain.

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Tom22

One nation under God with liberty and justice for all.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 13, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Obviously Palin did not read the report in detail to come up with such a conflicting statement. It is also obvious she still does not read any newspapers.

Posted by: leeellison | October 13, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Obama will do the following:

Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
Increase the number of H-1B Visas from 85,000 to 750,000 per year for foreign workers
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase Affirmative Action
End Grade Inflation for white students
End Financial Aid for WHITE STUDENTS
Increase the interest rates on loans for white college students
End White Privilege

Vote for Obama!

Posted by: Tom22 | October 13, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

Vote for Obama

Why?
Because since the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act only 10% of immigrants to the U.S. have been allowed to be white.

But, if Obama is elected 0% of immigrants to the U.S. will by white. Why? Because the Parrots advisers want it that way.

Best of Luck Yall

Posted by: Tom22 | October 13, 2008 1:43 AM | Report abuse

There is nothing to be confused about, American_Citizen. Here is a more complete clip of the “John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith” quote. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I&feature=related

Obama was not saying that he is Muslim; he was saying that McCain hasn’t said he (Obama) was.

Example:
Let’s assume that you are not a moron. Suppose everyone here, except me, began saying that you were. You could then declare “Deeva has not talked about my being a moron.” You would not (necessarily) be saying that you are a moron, only that I haven’t said it. Get it?

Posted by: Deeva | October 13, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

80 million of your tax dollars are funding the McCain/Palin campaign.

Last Monday, two people asked me to buy them something to eat.

That's 80 million to feed us this BS versus the 10 dollars I gave so my fellow Americans can eat.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 13, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Obama, talking about his "Muslim faith":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKi0vSYHfq4
I thought he was Christian? I'm confused.
He said that he won't wear the American flag pin on his chest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccbPVMBKQpA

Posted by: American_Citizen | October 13, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

"...Cleared of any wrongdoing."
----
"Because I said so" is not a legal defense.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 13, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

Here are two descriptions of the tasering incident, probably not what most people picture.

"He said that he was a new Taser instructor, and his stepson was asking him about the equipment. "I didn't shoot him with live, you know, actual live cartridge," Wooten said.

Instead, he said, he hooked his stepson up to a training aid "with little clips. And, you know, the Taser was activated for less than a second, which would be less than what you would get if you touched an electric fence. ... It was as safe as I could possibly make it."

He said his stepson was on the living room floor surrounded by pillows, that he "was bragging about it," and that the family laughed about it.

Asked whether it was a dumb decision, Wooten told CNN, "absolutely.""

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/05/palin.trooper/index.html


"TASING THE STEPSON

One day -- maybe a year or two before the investigation -- Wooten showed his stepson his Taser. He had just been to Taser instructor school. Wooten told Sgt. Wall that the boy was fascinated and pleaded to be tased.

"So we went in our living room and I had him get down on his knees so he wouldn't fall. And I taped the probes to him and turned the Taser on for like a second, turned it off. He thought that was the greatest thing in the world, wanted to do it again," Wooten told the investigator. The boy flinched but nothing more, he said. The boy was about 11 at the time.

In his interview with troopers, the stepson said it hurt for about a second, according to Wall's report. The boy said he wanted to be tased to show his cousin, Palin's daughter Bristol, that he wasn't a mama's boy. The probe left a welt on his arm, he said. His mother was upstairs yelling at them not to do it, the boy said.

As Bristol remembered it, the jolt knocked the boy backward, the trooper report says. She said she was afraid.

The probes are attached by thin wires to the Taser cartridge. In the field, an officer fires the probes into a suspect's skin or clothing and the suspect receives a jolt of electricity for five seconds, said Steve Tuttle, a spokesman for Taser International, which makes the devices. They are only incapacitated during that time. In demos, the probes might be taped to a person so that they don't accidentally strike an eye or injure the volunteer, he said. If the Taser is fired for just a second, it would feel like your funny bone was hit but the quick jolt wouldn't knock you over, Tuttle said."

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 13, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

So, what are the ethical standards of the Alaska State Troopers? Is it O.K. for them to taser kids? Is it O.K. for them to threaten to kill family members? Anybody?

Posted by: American_Citizen | October 13, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

.

PhilHart:
"Bill, if you click on through, Sullivan documents her lies with evidence from the Washington Post, FactCheck.org, ABC News, the NY Times, the Anchorage Daily News, etc.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-twelve-odd.html
"

You may be right Phil, but with research, I'd be willing to stack her lies against Obama's. Sorry, but I must run along, up early in the morning. I'll check in tomorrow.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Bill, if you click on through, Sullivan documents her lies with evidence from the Washington Post, FactCheck.org, ABC News, the NY Times, the Anchorage Daily News, etc.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-twelve-odd.html

Posted by: PhilHart | October 13, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

.

PhilHart:
"Ok, we may be getting somewhere. If we're talking about what the level of punishment is, then you do acknowledge wrongdoing on her part, right?"

Pretty sharp Phil. Not bad at all. However the punishment for the ethics bit may be nothing at all, and that at least implys minimal offense. As to the word 'wrongdoing' literaly, I don't know how the word would pan out in *legal* usage.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

The report concluded that the alleged fear of Wooten was a cover story for pursuing the vendetta against him. If she felt he was a threat, reducing her security detail was an odd way to show it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/us/politics/12trooper.html?_r=2&ref=politics&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Posted by: PhilHart | October 13, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Billw3 said:
"How about responding to this first (I ask it about a half hour ago): Palin fired the troopers boss because he didn't do his job (fire the trooper)."

PhilHart said:
"Palin has offered about 37 different and ever-shifting reasons for firing Monegan, but that isn't one of them."

Well, that's still the bottom line.

pHILhART SAID:
Here's that link again with the evidence you asked for.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-twelve-lies.html

Sorry, but I requestedreputable media sources for the various claims.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

The key there is 'personal vendetta.. If the trooper threatened Palin or her family, I don't think your term applies.

Posted by: Billw3

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Exactly and that was the conclusion, read the report.

You don't have to agree with the conclusion, but this was the finding. Obviously Palin doesn't agree either, but she is lying when she claims it clears her of any wrong doing. She can disagree with the conclusion also, but that isn't what she said.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 13, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Billw3: "Surely you know the punishment differs."

Ok, we may be getting somewhere. If we're talking about what the level of punishment is, then you do acknowledge wrongdoing on her part, right?

Posted by: PhilHart | October 13, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

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wes1155:
"If one is a sergeant in the Army and the
commanding officer has a personal vendetta towards the private even though the private was already punished and the commanding officer pressures the sergeant to single out the private then they are both violating the code of military ethics"

The key there is 'personal vendetta.. If the trooper threatened Palin or her family, I don't think your term applies.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

HEY!!!!!!!!! A M E R I C A N S

what's wrong with the country and the current corrupt government ????


they enacted a _P_L_A_N_N_E_D_ rigging of a game,


the FINANCIAL MARKET place,

the wealthy have fixed it so

that the rules, PRIVATIZE PROFIT


while SOCAILIZEing RISK....


what does that mean???? it means if you know the right people, you can BET THE ECONOMY AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA....without taking any personal risk...

IF _they_ ,

the filthy rich screw up, THEN,

YOU pay for it....Congress guarantees it...they pass the laws so that you have to handle bush and COMPANIES risks....

HOWsomeEVUH, IF you screw up you pay for that too....

if they send your jobs overseas and you can't pay your bills and your homes go into foreclosure and and you're sleeping in bus stops.....wellllllllllll


obviously that's your fault.


there's no risk to THE CORRUPT, and NO INVESTMENT in making sure that YOUR lives turn out okay....

but YOU THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THEM from the get go...


their risks are SOCIALIZED....part of our GOVERNMENT PAYOUT...


listen closely, the wealthy are on welfare, it's called tax breaks for the elite.....and development costs paid for corporations by citizens...

what do you think the _I_L_L_E_G_A_L_ invasion of IRAQ is about....you, the citizens, are paying the business expenses of BIG OIL...you pay the military to steal it

and _THEY_ get the oil deals and the rights to sell you at a huge profit the oil that your military captures for them...


and the soldiers???? they get less bennies than under Viet Nam, and they have to hire a lawyer to collect medical benefits even

if they got no legs.........or half a skull missing ??? see the film "Body of War."


how do you feel about those non-compete bids for HALLIBURTON, CARLYLE GROUP, and BLACKWATER


huh!!!!?


AMERICA????


palin 'n mcCain.....they're the puppets that evil wants to elect to stand in front of this corruption.....help them out,


keep them from going to hell....

don't vote for them.


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Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 13, 2008 12:10 AM | Report abuse

"Cleared of any hint of wrongdoing." How much clearer can it be that this woman does NOT believe that she is accountable to the law? She is not only unqualified to hold executive office on a national level, but she ought to be removed from state office as well. That, of course, is up to the people of Alaska. Please...November 4 cannot come soon enough and then I just hope that this whole ugly campaign will become just a horrible memory. What was McCain thinking?

Posted by: CarolBG | October 13, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Billw3:
"How about responding to this first (I ask it about a half hour ago):
Palin fired the troopers boss because he didn't do his job (fire the trooper)."

Bill, Palin has offered about 37 different and ever-shifting reasons for firing Monegan, but that isn't one of them.

Here's that link again with the evidence you asked for.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-twelve-lies.html

Posted by: PhilHart | October 13, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

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PhilHart:
"Bill, care to elaborate on the distinction you appear to be making between breaking the law and violating a state ethics act?"

Surely you know the punishment differs.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

Wow -- she's following right in the footsteps of Rove and Cheney! I can't believe the voters want 4 years of the Sarah Palin soap opera. Enough already! Based upon her decisions and actions in Alaska, not to mention her performance so far on the campaign trail, I would think voters would realize that she is not qualified to be Vice President. If she already has ethics problems think what it will be like when she really has power!

Posted by: sharronkm | October 13, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Is there a center for a pathological liar.
Maybe even for a habitual liar.

I think we can raise enough funds to make sure the GOP ticket gets treatment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sspOJXTFv-Y

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 13, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

If you're a sargent in the Army, and don't discipline a private for bad behavior, the captain takes you down. One must do his duty or pay.

Posted by: Billw3

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If one is a sergeant in the Army and the commanding officer has a personal vendetta towards the private even though the private was already punished and the commanding officer pressures the sergeant to single out the private then they are both violating the code of military ethics.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 13, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

.
I said: "Try bold caps in color, next time."

thenotoriousflavio said: "It's pretty clear that you don't like anything colored""

Race card?

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

The gross national debt compared to GDP (how rich we are) reached its lowest level since 1931 as Reagan took office. It skyrocketed for 12 years through Bush I. Clinton reversed it at a peak of 67%. Bush II crossed that line on Sept. 22 and hit 69% on Sept 30. That's the highest it's been since 1955 (53 years ago).
Bush did three things to skyrocket the debt from $5.7 trillion to $10 trillion:
1. He lowered taxes on the rich (by far the biggest item).
2. He invaded Iraq instead of winning in Afghan-Pakistan (another $600 B).
3. He loosened controls on Wall Street.

As it happens, McCain backed all three policies!

NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: d_hyperion | October 13, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

"...pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."

Interesting "Spin."

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | October 13, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

YEEE HAAA!

She's been caught red handed!

PALIN = BUSH in a SKIRT! (no pun intended)

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

THREAD ALERT: TOM22 IS JUST A REPUBLICAN PLANT. HE IS SPREADING LIES ABOUT OBAMA/BIDEN PLATFORM. DO NOT BELIEVE THIS SACK OF EXCREMENT.

Obama / Biden platform has nothing to do with racial quotas or affirmative action B.S. as TOM22 is saying. He is making this up in order to make people believe Obama / Biden is left-wing. THIS IS A DESPICABLE ACT. If the RIGHT can win honorably, THEY LIE.

It may be a Democratic Party Icon, so forgive me but TOM22 IS A JACKA$$

Posted by: wunderwood | October 13, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Bill, care to elaborate on the distinction you appear to be making between breaking the law and violating a state ethics act?

Yes, the report found that she had it in her power to fire Monegan. No, she was not "cleared of...any hint of any kind of unethical activity there," as she claimed in the conference call, in the latest of her brazen lies.

Posted by: PhilHart | October 13, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

If you're a sargent in the Army, and don't discipline a private for bad behavior, the captain takes you down. One must do his duty or pay.

Posted by: Billw3 | October 13, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

BILLW3 wrote: "Try bold caps in color, next time."


It's pretty clear that you don't like anything "colored"

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 13, 2008 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Isn't it worth mentioning that Palin was lying when she asserted that the report cleared her of ethical misconduct? The report plainly concludes that Palin broke the State ethics law.

Posted by: RobinSenner | October 12, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Palin fired a guy who wouldn't fire a cop. To make things worse, she lied about it and refused to comply with subpeonas while at the same time proclaiming "My life is an open book" and "I've got nothing to hide". This woman is a corrupt liar and should not be running for VP. Remember at the VP debate she said the VP should have more powers. W.T.F.??????

Posted by: kbuckingham777 | October 12, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

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PhilHart:
"Bill, if you want evidence of her lies, just click on the link."

How about responding to this first (I ask it about a half hour ago):
Palin fired the troopers boss because he didn't do his job (fire the trooper).

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Tomm22
Does Pat Buchanan know you're calling him a racist...or was that your idea?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 12, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

The best Sarah Palin Impersonators, see clips of them very funny vote for your favorite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMebGbcC2Sg

Posted by: pastor123 | October 12, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

TOM22 is from another planet...
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Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for White Students
Decrease Financial aid for White students
Decrease Student loans for White students
End White Privilege
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LIAR. Obama has nothing about cutting financial aid for white students. I know "playing the race card" is considered a non-starter, but this is racist rhetoric. Stop LYING about what Obama has said. CUTTING FINANCIAL AID BASED ON SKIN COLOR? REALLY? PROVE IT OR STOP LYING.

Posted by: wunderwood | October 12, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Try this again...

She DID NOT break the law for firing Monegan...

SHE BROKE THE LAW BECAUSE SHE AND HER HUSBAND WENT ON A WITCH HUNT after her ex-brother-in-law using the power of her office....
THUS, ABUSING HER POWER AND BREAKING A STATE ETHICS STATUTE

ABUSED POWER=BROKE THE LAW

Palin = Bush in a Skirt (no pun intended)

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Bill, if you want evidence of her lies, just click on the link. You may think Andrew Sullivan has cooties, but he documents a dozen of the lies with evidence from various independent media sources, like the Anchorage Daily News and the Washington Post. (His list has since grown to 20 lies, but the 12 here are a starting point.)

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-twelve-odd.html

Posted by: PhilHart | October 12, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin:
"pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."

Report:
"For the reasons explained in Section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating [Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act]"

I detect a hint of unethical activity there.

Posted by: wharwood | October 12, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin fired a guy who wouldn't fire a cop. To make things worse, she lied about it and refused to comply with subpeonas while at the same time proclaiming "My life is an open book" and "I've got nothing to hide". This woman is a corrupt liar and should not be running for VP. Remember at the VP debate she said the VP should have more powers. W.T.F.??????

Posted by: kbuckingham777 | October 12, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

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PhilHart"
"Bill, Bill, Bill. This is straight from the report: "For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act." "

So? She was cleared of breaking the law. I mentioned *nothing* regarding the above.
Ethics? How about Obama's association with a crook, terrorist, and an anti-American racist. Are we there yet?
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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Rev Wright is nothing compared to Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaskan Independence Party...

Rev. Wright said "g-d d-mn america". Yep. He sure did. He may have been quoting someone else, or maybe not. Depends on who you ask. And Sixpack Sarah is outraged, anyway. But, she really should check with her hubby TODD and see how he feels about organizations anti-American sentiments. He was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party for SEVEN YEARS. Joe Vogler, the party founder, said a lot of nutty things, but here are a few choice ones:

"The fires of h3ll are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their d4mn flag."

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her d4mned institutions."

"My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."

Say what you want about Joe Vogler, at least he was honest about his hatred for the USA. He was about to talk at the United Nations demanding Alaskan independence when he was murdered. He was shot by another secessionist while buying plastic explosives.

But Sarah doesn't really need to ask Todd how he feels because she supported A.I.P. too! She just got done telling them so recently. Look for it on youtube.com. She supports their efforts. It may have been about then that AIP lost a Supreme Court decision. They wanted to put Alaskan secession on a statewide ballot. The Supreme Court demurred. I thought they were in favor of states rights except in Florida elections. But I digress. The point is that Sarah Pitbull loves the A.I.P. almost as much as her husband Todd. No word on whether they are into purchasing plastic explosives, but we should keep an eye on that.

Here is the deal: This isn't just random gossip. Google it for yourself. Here is the NYT news article about Vogler to get you started. Murder, plastic explosives deals and all.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940CE3DB153CF936A25753C1A962958260

Country First? You betcha!!

Posted by: wunderwood | October 12, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Dick Cheney too is happy he is cleared.

You know ? Even if guilty - Bush could fix it - and technically ? These folks would go :letter of the law - it's true !

Meaning though - is where Shakespeare comes in -

It is the masses who define the law.

Posted by: HkLnSnkr | October 12, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

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PhilHart:
"you don't really want to go there, do you? Palin has been on the national scene for barely a month, largely in protected settings, and yet she has a voluminous record of lying, on everything from the Bridge to Nowhere to her position on climate change to Obama's position on habeas corpus"

Any proof of this from reputable media soutces?
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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

So she thinks the report simultaneously clears her of any wrong doing and is a "partisan circus"? Like in the debate when she demanded the govt get out of the way and provide strict oversight?

Posted by: light_bearer | October 12, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Bill, Bill, Bill. This is straight from the report:

"For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."

Posted by: PhilHart | October 12, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

BEWARE of the writings of PAT BUCHANAN:
"Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new "ladders of opportunity" for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for "deserving" white kids.

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago."

BEWARE of the writings of PAT BUCHANAN!

You MUST vote for Obama because President Barack Obama will do the following:

Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for White Students
Decrease Financial aid for White students
Decrease Student loans for White students
End White Privilege

You MUST vote for Obama!

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

ST08
You are so right when you said
"Palin turned around Alaska politics and has the records of rooting out corruptions and turned against her own party".

But you forgot to mention that she was part of the problem.

Now her party is turning on her. Way to go Sarah keep up the good work.

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 12, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Billw3, you don't really want to go there, do you? Palin has been on the national scene for barely a month, largely in protected settings, and yet she has a voluminous record of lying, on everything from the Bridge to Nowhere to her position on climate change to Obama's position on habeas corpus.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/the-twelve-odd.html

Posted by: PhilHart | October 12, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

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wes1155:
"She certainly is not "one of us""

You got that right!
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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

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thenotoriousflavio:
"HEY BILLW3!!! SHE BROKE THE LAW"

Those bold caps don't help, cowboy. She was exonerated re breaking the law.
Try bold caps in color, next time.
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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

In truth, Palin's lying about the report. She's saying that she's been cleared of all legal wrong doing. That's not true. At any rate, I just discovered this article on McCain in Rolling Stone.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: ehperkins1971 | October 12, 2008 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I don't get about the GOP political strategy:

The investigators report that said she abused her power was in the Friday evening news dump. The media seemed inclined to let it go (it never made front-page news in my local paper), and the Obama campaign didn't seem interested in pressing the issue.

So why does the McCain/Palin campaign insist on bringing it back up now? Do they want to keep the story alive for some unfathomable reason? Or is Gov. Palin so steamed about being implicated that she just can't let it go?

Posted by: ScottinNC | October 12, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

I've never heard anyone else use the word "efficiencies" the way she does. This is bizarre. Who is this person????

Posted by: dougm2

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She certainly is not "one of us". She's a pathological liar though.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 12, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

"It took a Democratic president to clean up after the last president Bush. It's gonna take a Democratic president to clean after this president Bush. Make no mistake about it. We've done it before and we'll do it again. America will once again rise from the ashes of the Bushes."

- Hillary Clinton

Sarah Palin isn't fit to try on her shoes.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 12, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

From Branchflower's report:

"For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."

This must be a different definition of CLEARED from what we are used to in the lower 48 / Hawaii...

Sarah Sixpack, in plain terms, please explain how you were CLEARED? Is this somehow related to Wasilla being the meth capital of Alaska?

Posted by: wunderwood | October 12, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

HEY BILLW3!!!

SHE BROKE THE LAW BECAUSE SHE AND HER HUSBAND WENT ON A WITCH HUNT after her ex-brother-in-law using the power of her office....THUS, ABUSING HER POWER AND BREAKING A STATE STATUE

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Wait a minute...isn't this pretty simple if you actually read the report?

"I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."

That's what the report says and last time I checked, that means she broke the law. This isn't something that's arguable...she broke the law. She was not, "...cleared of any legal wrongdoing."

Although apparently in Washington Post land, if someone says the sky is green, you have to report it as just another opinion. Stenography triumphant!

Posted by: jrw2 | October 12, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not one of us because his PAST ASSOCIATION suggests he's not one of us!

Posted by: ST08

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The Daily Mail, now there is a bastion of factual, balanced reporting. How many law suites have they had to settle so far this year? You might as well be pointing people to The Washington Times.

I certainly hope I am not "one of us" if this is what "us" is.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 12, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

She abused her power. Because she did as Governor, how much more so as VP? In addition she refused to cooperate with investigators after saying she would. She refused to turn over emails, and she refused to testify. The idea that she is a reformer just drove off the cliff.

Posted by: fishingriver | October 12, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Try this again...

She DID NOT break the law for firing Monegan...

SHE BROKE THE LAW BECAUSE SHE AND HER HUSBAND WENT ON A WITCH HUNT after her ex-brother-in-law using the power of her office....THUS, ABUSING HER POWER AND BREAKING A STATE ETHICS STATUTE

BROKE THE LAW.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

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. . HEY YOU OBAMITES....

What say you about this:
Palin fired the troopers boss because he didn't do his job (fire the trooper).


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

She DID NOT break the law for firing Monegan...

SHE BROKE THE LAW BECAUSE SHE AND HER HUSBAND WENT ON A WITCH HUNT after her ex-brother-in-law using the power of her office....THUS, ABUSING HER POWER AND BREAKING A STATE STATUE

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

John McCain isn't going to let Palin go.
He has to much a stake now,which is his reputation as being a maverick.

However someone forgot to tell that cowboy that the stable was left open and the two mavericks are running wild and loose.

This is the end result of how an untamed animal ends up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APydh8XnO9c

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 12, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I've never heard anyone else use the word "efficiencies" the way she does. This is bizarre. Who is this person????

Posted by: dougm2 | October 12, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse


This really should be re-titled to read "Palin Proven To Lack The Reading Comprehension Skills Of A Third Grader."


Or... "Palin Is Delusional!"


How does "the media" allow her to deny what the reports says?

"Palin breached state ethic laws when she, her husband and members of her administration tried to get the ex-husband of her younger sister fired as an Alaska state trooper."

"Palin Talks To Alaska Reporters...."

Is this a joke?

Is The Onion subbing in for The Washington Post?

Posted by: dww322 | October 12, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

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thrh:
"the pathologically lying pit bull"

Sure, and the Obama didn't hear Wright knocking whites either...


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

What scares me is that it seems that the media wants to kill this story...I thought that Sarah (the pitbull) wanted a discussion on character. Well, we have one. Lets talk about a woman who lies and uses her office to go after people. Is this the person we want in the second highest office in our nation?

Again the media has failed us. As SNL put it, "grow a pair."

Posted by: truth21 | October 12, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

The report is pretty clear. Palin violated the state ethics law. There's no way to spin that.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 12, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

ST08 a.k.a Karl Rove

Get this through you THICK SKULL...

She is break the law for firing Monegan...

SHE BROKE THE LAW BECAUSE SHE AND HER HUSBAND WENT ON A WITCH HUNT after her ex-brother-in-law using the power of her office....THUS, ABUSING HER POWER AND BREAKING A STATE STATUE

DUH!

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

"Gov. Palin did not lie. The investigation found that she's NOT GUILTY"

Guess you didn't read it, huh, ST08? Never let the facts get in your way, do you?

Posted by: thrh | October 12, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

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ST08:
"Now the question is WHY the trooper didn't get fired in the first place. This is the guy who TASERED A 10 YEARS OLD BOY, threatened to kill Palin's family, hunt illegally, and long list of misconducts"

Right. Palin fired the troopers boss because he didn't do his job (fire the trooper). But... that difficult for Obama supporters to understand.


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His boss d

Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

A HISTORIC TICKET.... Now that Sarah Palin has been found to have abused her powers, violated state ethics, and lied about it, I did a little digging and found an interesting historical footnote.

The McCain/Palin ticket is the first in American history in which both candidates were found to have violated ethics standards before a national election.

McCain, of course, was admonished by Senate Ethics Committee "for exercising 'poor judgment' for intervening" with federal regulators on behalf of Charles Keating, as part of the infamous Keating Five scandal.

And now McCain's running mate has also been found to have violated state ethics laws and abused the powers of her office, as part of the "Troopergate" scandal.

The nation has had 102 major-party tickets covering 51 presidential elections over more than two centuries. And we've never had a ticket in which both candidates on the same ticket were responsible for ethics violations before a national election. McCain/Palin is the first.

It makes the whole "reform" pitch a little more difficult, doesn't it?

NO WAY, NO HOW, NO McCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: d_hyperion | October 12, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

It's easier to lie when you don't have to face follow-up questions. Ground rules for the conference call were one question per reporter, no follow-ups.

Just like the VP debate, which she survived only because there were no follow-ups.

Here's hoping for a decisive Obama-Biden victory that sends the pathologically lying pit bull back to Alaska with her tail between her legs, never again to be heard from on the national scene.

Posted by: PhilHart | October 12, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

The only thing I agree with Sarah Palin on is, we both support the secession of Alaska from the United States. Let's get rid of that disgrace of a state now, before they inflict any more of their brain-dead politicians upon us! Maybe Russia will take them back? [Sarah--take a look and see if they're coming, would you?]

Posted by: thrh | October 12, 2008 11:28 PM | Report abuse

So the Palin's (and now every conservative media hack) is trying to paint this ex-brother-in-law as a sinister, toturing, vile low-life. But if you read into this guys history , the guy is really guilty of just acting stupidly (which is an affliction that must run rampant in Alaska considering who they elected Gov.)

THE REAL SCARY THING is the out-of-proportion, relentless witch hunt that Palin and her husband went on to get back at this guy

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Failin Palin is utterly rediculous. She continues to twist reality into whatever she proposes it to be without any basis. It was determined that she abused her executive power. Her conclusion for the investigative report is to totally ignore that fact. This is a very selective parallel world that she has created for herself, the McCain campaign and her followers. She will NEVER speak for many women as we can speak (and think) for ourselves. I think we have had enough spin and enough of Sarah Palin!

Pam

Posted by: pam27 | October 12, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

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"SHE LIED"

Hey, give Palin a breah, at least she didn't monkey around with a crook, terrorist, and anti-American racist.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin did not lie. The investigation found that she's NOT GUILTY by firing Monegan. So that means she didn't fire him because he didn't fire the trooper. She did nothing wrong on this.

Then they said her husband tried to get the trooper fired, nothing in the report suggested that Palin was trying to get him fired. They said her family get involved in the case.

Now the question is WHY the trooper didn't get fired in the first place. This is the guy who TASERED A 10 YEARS OLD BOY, threatened to kill Palin's family, hunt illegally, and long list of misconducts. WHY he's still able to keep his job? WHY?

That's because the union, the old boy network that Palin ran against, decided to project him. You know the rest of the story. Then politics got involved, HOLLIS FRENCH (OBAMA SUPPORTER) got to be the lead investigator, you know the outcome.

This case just shows to the american citizens that politics doesn't work. You don't get fair and balance trail when politics comes before the justice. This is to prove that DNC with leaders like Obama, Reid, Pelosi decided to take side and continue the shady side of the old boy network.

If you think Obama will be on the side of the people, not the side of the old boy network you can see it here. Obama's senate records are as shady as his circle of friends. Obama, never in his resume suggests to me that he will turn against his own party for the good of the people. never once.

Gov.Palin turned around Alaska politics and has the records of rooting out corruptions and turned against her own party. Her rise to the top wasn't because of carrying the water for the party power like Obama did his entire career. Obama has no real executive experience and supported more FAILED projects than successful one. Obama should be ashamed when criticizing gov.Palin's records.

Posted by: ST08 | October 12, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Ms Palin must think that United States citizens were either born yesterday or don't have all their little duckies in a row. Read my lips (oops I forgot you can't see)- Ms Palin you misused your power and breached ethics laws that you agreed to by taking the oath of Governor of Alaska.

I work where I am under ethics laws similar to those in the oval office and I would be fired if I breached those laws. It has to do with trust.

I'm most offended because Palin believes she can get away with this. I am finding myself resenting her and McCain more and more. If she breaches ethics laws as Governor think how risky that is for us to vote her and McCain into the presidency.

They don't deserve to be elected and this Country would be harmed if they were elected.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: eashley12 | October 12, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

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hchiba:
"No need to study, read law or learn anything"

Obama did that, but note:

Some think Obama's a white knight,
But he really is not all that bright..
Just bright enough to climb
Up the ladder with slime
Like Rezko, Ayers, and Wright,


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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Ice-T will be dedicating a performace of his hit song "Cop Killer" to Sarah Palin.

I got my brain on hype.
Tonight'll be your night.

-Ice-T

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

The faster you get back to Alaska, Sarah, the better off most Americans will be. Sorry, people of Alaska.

Posted by: taid | October 12, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Palin's new theme song:

"I shot the sheriff
But I didn't shoot the deputy. Oh no! Oh!"

-Bob Marley

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

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Obama beats up on the cat when no one's looking, note.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Is it a sign of the times?

Lies and politics have often been a married couple. It was men who (politically) lied in our recent past, VP Cheney, Powell, Rove, Rumsfeld ... e.g., regarding the never-found WMD in Irak's arsenal.

But now we have a female politician Gov.Palin, lipstick hockey-mom, who bests all the above. And there goes another myth, that women, hockey-moms are better than men, less the liar or as mothers naturally shielded from immorality. Not so...

Palin obviates the raison d'etre of all objective judgments. Why bother with courts, judges, commissions, panels, investigations, assessors and the like? All just a royal waste of time.

Finally, there is only one truth, Palin's.

No need to study, read law or learn anything, not anymore - for any and all questions on this side of the Milky Way and its 100 billion suns & planets, call Gov. Palin in Alaska for her answer.

America is truly lucky to have Palin as future VP, a "heartbeat" away from its highest public office.

What insight, decency, modesty & honor. All other nations (especially Russia, next to Alaska, Palin's home) are jealous of her intense humanity & noble manner.


Posted by: hchiba | October 12, 2008 11:14 PM | Report abuse

I have lived, well...survived through eight years of this same crap and look where it has gotten us.

Are YOU better of than you were eight years ago

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

James it's time for you to find a new job.
Here's the answer to the report:
For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 2952.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.

Now any reporter that doesn't read the report before an interview can be made to look like a fool. Sarah knows what she's doing by lying and she knows the Media will cover up for her. But when Obama get's in office we'll see honest reporting back. It doesn't take much time to read but Sarah knows who the stupid people are and plays them at it. She is as dumb as a door knob and flirts with Journalist who day dream of her. Let's hope the American people are still of the lies being told by the GOP.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | October 12, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

GUILTY OF ETHICS VIOLATION

GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY

AND... this was a bi-partisan investigation! Not some "witch hunt" by the dems in Alaska (note: why would Palin worry about witches when her lunatic preacher gave her a spell to protect her from witch craft?)

Time to step down, Ms. Palin. You are an embarrassment to the country!

Posted by: jgarrisn | October 12, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Dude! She LIED, OK?

The report found her guilty of violating the state ethics law. She said, point blank, that the report exonerated her. SHE LIED.

Yet another example of how the distinction between "journalistic ethics" and wandering around with your head up your @ss has completely disappeared in this country.

And oh yeah, that "bipartisan committee" that released the report? It was 8 Republicans and 4 Democrats.

Posted by: BillinChicago1 | October 12, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin = Bush in a skirt

nuff said.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is out to destroy Palin - but it's Obama's past we should examine..


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1076957/MELANIE-PHILIPS-Everyone-destroy-Palin--Obamas-past-examine.html

And to the person who said the GOPs are trying to portray Obama as someone who's not one of us. YES. HE'S NOT ONE OF US WHO LOVES AMERICA AND AMERICA'S PROSPERITY. Unlike Obama, I won't hang around with terrorists/terrorist symphasizers/terrorist donors/communists/radicals.

Obama is not one of us because his PAST ASSOCIATION suggests he's not one of us!

Posted by: ST08 | October 12, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

If failin Palin becomes vice president, will both she and her hillbilly hubby need to be sworn in, so he can sit her VP chair on the rare occasion that she tends to the kids? Or will they get a nanny and both have chairs in the office? What about in the senate?

Posted by: stodayxx | October 12, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I really think that we should thank Sarah Palin. She has empowered the truly stupid, who are now coming out of the woodworks and revealing themselves.

As there is not an intelligent person on the planet who thinks well her, asking a person what they thing of Sarah Palin is proving to be the perfect litmus test for absolute cretins.

Posted by: apesca | October 12, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

MDickey28, good to read your excellent post. Greetings from Crisfield, Maryland, where Obama will get a bunch of votes, this old white guy included.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

The Republican comittee voted to release this report last thing on a Friday night. THIS IS A TRIED AND TRUE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TACTIC! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEEEEEEASE, MEDIA...

WAKE UP!

You're falling into the SAME APATHY as you did during the 2003 invasion of Iraq; never questioning, never investigating, never pointing out the full spectrum of facts! Busting Palin's chops is like questioning the invasion of Iraq in 2003...Oh! We'd better not go there.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

So who is surprised? Abuse of power? Intellectual dishonesty? No problem!

Posted by: RegisUrgel | October 12, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I think it's hysterical that the media joined hands and completely buried this report until Palin lied about the report.

Imagine if this had been Hillary Clinton?

Good God. Blaring headlines,24/7, for days.

What the hell does John McCain HAVE on DC reporters, anyway? What goes on at those media-McCain barbeques?

Posted by: kay5 | October 12, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Alaskans for truth rally report:
Looks like Mooselini is not as well liked in Alaska as her Rovian image masters would lead the public to believe:
http://shannynmoore.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/alaskans-for-truth-rally-report/

Posted by: pixiedust1 | October 12, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Lie Ability = Liability

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 12, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama is guilty of real abuse of power by creating earmarks to help his friends. It is a documented fact, why isn't anyone talking about his lies and abuse of power?

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=278820

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A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate

Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 12, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

I am SHOCKED at how all the media outlets have WHITEWASHED this story!

I'm freakin' out here because this "Pitbull with Lipstick" (More like "George Bush with a SKIRT") is pushing the limits of the law in order to forward her personal agenda. Sound familiar? WE'VE JUST HAD EIGHT YEARS OF EXACTLY THAT!!!!

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Speaking about Sarah "Ya Betcha" Palin... She's another tool, a stunt from McCain, a political calculation to supposedly bring votes from Hillary supporters (actually their beliefs are the opposite), feminists (even though she's far from the feminist ideology), and those independents who can be easily fooled or some Jerry Springer fans who don't pay attention to details and just see cute faces and are only capable of understanding keywords ("joe six-pack", "maverick", "hockey mom", "he doesn't share our values", "pallin' around", "job creation", "drill baby drill" etc). We have seen during the last weeks that she's not, and probably never be, ready to be President or VP. She can't even answer questions that my 14 year old niece can, she barely survived the debate by repeating lines that someone wrote for her, giving non-answers and dodging the questions. Moreover she is already involved in corruption, unethical behavior and abuse of power. We need someone above the average... she's intellectually just alright. We cannot afford a "just alright person" for the hard times ahead. McCain put his political calculations first, not our country!

McCAIN SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER... SHAME ON HIM!

Posted by: d_hyperion | October 12, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

When John McCain referred to Obama as "that one," the Republican attack mode surfaced briefly. Obama still looked calm, and McCain still looked irascible as he defended tax cuts for the richest 1 per cent of Americans. (He didn't even stick around to shake hands afterwards.) Pollsters and observers in both parties agreed that Democrats continue to be seen as the party best able to deal with the economy—and that the McCain campaign desperately needs to change the subject.

Given this, and the tone set by McCain and his vituperative running mate Sarah Palin, there is every reason to fear that the final weeks of this election will be dominated by the argument that there is something sinister and un-American about too much education, reason, logic, and—last but not least—precise language. In other words, that there is something alien about Obama.

The day before the debate, Palin went on the attack against Obama for his acquaintanceship with Bill Ayers, a balding professor of education at the University of Illinois. Ayers is now known by just about everyone in Chicago who has been involved in educational reform, as Obama has. Yet at a rally in Colorado, Palin described Obama as a man who is "palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." Worse still, a man in the audience yelled "kill him"—and she said nothing in response.

During the past eight years, anti-rationalism of every sort has become the defining strategy of right-wing American politics. Exactly four years ago, near the end of the 2004 campaign, Ron Suskind of the New York Times reported a chilling conversation with a Bush aide who told him that the press belonged to the "reality-based community" of Americans who "believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality." But, he added, "that's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality, we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too. We're history's actors… and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

This distinction between history's actors and those who are fit only to study the results not only expresses a general contempt for learning but also denigrates anyone who requires evidence, rather than emotion and faith, to justify public policy. An exchange during the vice-presidential debate last week between Palin and Joseph Biden captures this mindset. Biden had spoken about the Bush administration's deregulation of financial institutions as a major factor in the nation's economic woes. Palin replied, "Say it ain’t so, Joe. There you go again, pointing backward. Now doggone it, let’s look ahead and tell Americans what we plan to do for them in the future."

Suspicion of Obama because he talks and writes too well has been a persistent theme in the McCain message. Conservatives have painted Obama as a man of "just words," rather than deeds. "Parsing words"—an accusation McCain hurled at Obama twice during the first presidential debate on 26th September, underscores the idea that a fluent command of one's native language is somehow opposed to political action. This would have been news to America's founding fathers, who, true to their Enlightenment convictions, saw no opposition between thought and action, between words and deeds. Indeed, it can be argued that the melding of 13 quarrelsome colonies into a nation was uniquely dependent on words—those in the Declaration of Independence, in Thomas Paine’s Crisis Papers, and in the constitution itself.

Another persistent anti-rational, anti-intellectual force in American politics—right-wing religion. There is no doubt that the Republicans are trying to revive faith-based issues. The McCain campaign is making frequent use of Senator Sam Brownback, a convert from the Methodist church to Roman Catholicism. Brownback was baptised in a chapel run by Opus Dei, the secretive ultra-right Catholic organisation that started with the support of Franco's fascist dictatorship in Spain. The Kansas senator attempts to woo Catholic voters by reminding them of the Republican ticket's staunch opposition to abortion (and to embryonic stem cell research, which McCain supported) such issues as abortion, birth control, and stem cell research. But an anti-abortion, anti-embryo research position certainly does appeal to the fundamentalist Protestant base of the Republican party.

Finally, there is the basic, quintessentially irrational American issue of race. It is impossible to tell whether Obama really has the five to eight point lead shown by polls, or whether white voters who say they are willing to vote for an African American end up not doing so—as they have in many previous state-level campaigns.

The common theme in all of the efforts to take voters' minds off the "reality-based world" is an attempt to portray Obama as "not one of us": not someone to be trusted, not an average small-town American (as if the majority of Americans still lived in small towns). The question in the campaign's closing weeks is whether fear of the "other" can distract attention from the real problems that still cry out for rational debate.

Posted by: francinelast | October 12, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Before you say that this report is politically motivated, 14 Alaskan Legislators agreed that she abused her power. These 14 include 10 Republican and 4 Democrats as well as Republican Lydia Green the president of Alaska Senate judiciary from town of Wasilla.

McCain brought this one on himself, because he had to know she had this problem brewing.

Posted by: Blink180 | October 12, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's abuse of her office is a character issue.

The media have been telling us for the last 20 months that character is ON THE TABLE regarding Barack Obama.

Why the double standard?

Posted by: kay5 | October 12, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Obama is guilty of real abuse of power and belongs in jail. Obama created earmarks to help his friends. It is a documented fact, why isn't anyone talking about his lies, lack of judgement, and abuse of power?

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=278820

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A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.

Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin lives in an alternative universe -

*one where you don't answer the questions asked of you during a debate
*one where you get mad at journalists who think that you should answer the questions they ask
*one where humans don't contribute to global warming
*where you shoot moose, caribou and just about anything else with fur and four-legs, but you claim to be pro-life
*one where being the governor of a state that shares a common border with Canada and is across the Bering Straits from Russia qualifies you to be a foreign policy expert
*one where being worth $2.1M qualifies you and your husband to be Joe & Jane Sixpack
*and one where when a bi-partisan committee of your state's legislature finds you guilty of an ethics violation, but you go around claiming you've been exonerated.

What is that woman on?

Posted by: laSerenissima2003 | October 12, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

When John McCain referred to Obama as "that one," the Republican attack mode surfaced briefly. Obama still looked calm, and McCain still looked irascible as he defended tax cuts for the richest 1 per cent of Americans. (He didn't even stick around to shake hands afterwards.) Pollsters and observers in both parties agreed that Democrats continue to be seen as the party best able to deal with the economy—and that the McCain campaign desperately needs to change the subject.

Given this, and the tone set by McCain and his vituperative running mate Sarah Palin, there is every reason to fear that the final weeks of this election will be dominated by the argument that there is something sinister and un-American about too much education, reason, logic, and—last but not least—precise language. In other words, that there is something alien about Obama.

The day before the debate, Palin went on the attack against Obama for his acquaintanceship with Bill Ayers, a balding professor of education at the University of Illinois. Ayers is now known by just about everyone in Chicago who has been involved in educational reform, as Obama has. Yet at a rally in Colorado, Palin described Obama as a man who is "palling around with terrorists who would target their own country." Worse still, a man in the audience yelled "kill him"—and she said nothing in response.

During the past eight years, anti-rationalism of every sort has become the defining strategy of right-wing American politics. Exactly four years ago, near the end of the 2004 campaign, Ron Suskind of the New York Times reported a chilling conversation with a Bush aide who told him that the press belonged to the "reality-based community" of Americans who "believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernible reality." But, he added, "that's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality, we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too. We're history's actors… and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

This distinction between history's actors and those who are fit only to study the results not only expresses a general contempt for learning but also denigrates anyone who requires evidence, rather than emotion and faith, to justify public policy. An exchange during the vice-presidential debate last week between Palin and Joseph Biden captures this mindset. Biden had spoken about the Bush administration's deregulation of financial institutions as a major factor in the nation's economic woes. Palin replied, "Say it ain’t so, Joe. There you go again, pointing backward. Now doggone it, let’s look ahead and tell Americans what we plan to do for them in the future."

Suspicion of Obama because he talks and writes too well has been a persistent theme in the McCain message. Conservatives have painted Obama as a man of "just words," rather than deeds. "Parsing words"—an accusation McCain hurled at Obama twice during the first presidential debate on 26th September, underscores the idea that a fluent command of one's native language is somehow opposed to political action. This would have been news to America's founding fathers, who, true to their Enlightenment convictions, saw no opposition between thought and action, between words and deeds. Indeed, it can be argued that the melding of 13 quarrelsome colonies into a nation was uniquely dependent on words—those in the Declaration of Independence, in Thomas Paine’s Crisis Papers, and in the constitution itself.

Another persistent anti-rational, anti-intellectual force in American politics—right-wing religion. There is no doubt that the Republicans are trying to revive faith-based issues. The McCain campaign is making frequent use of Senator Sam Brownback, a convert from the Methodist church to Roman Catholicism. Brownback was baptised in a chapel run by Opus Dei, the secretive ultra-right Catholic organisation that started with the support of Franco's fascist dictatorship in Spain. The Kansas senator attempts to woo Catholic voters by reminding them of the Republican ticket's staunch opposition to abortion (and to embryonic stem cell research, which McCain supported) such issues as abortion, birth control, and stem cell research. But an anti-abortion, anti-embryo research position certainly does appeal to the fundamentalist Protestant base of the Republican party.

Finally, there is the basic, quintessentially irrational American issue of race. It is impossible to tell whether Obama really has the five to eight point lead shown by polls, or whether white voters who say they are willing to vote for an African American end up not doing so—as they have in many previous state-level campaigns.

The common theme in all of the efforts to take voters' minds off the "reality-based world" is an attempt to portray Obama as "not one of us": not someone to be trusted, not an average small-town American (as if the majority of Americans still lived in small towns). The question in the campaign's closing weeks is whether fear of the "other" can distract attention from the real problems that still cry out for rational debate.

Posted by: francinelast | October 12, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Meet Sarah Palin’s radical right-wing pals

Extremists Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll helped launch Palin’s political career in Alaska, and in return had influence over policy. “Her door was open,” says Chryson — and still is.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/

Posted by: pixiedust1 | October 12, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Sarah--We never thought ANYONE could bust on to the national political scene, and actually make Dan Quayle look brilliant, but YOU HAVE!!

Mission accomplished!!!


Isn't Alaska calling?? Oh yeah...They don't want you back either, now that you have been exposed for the FRAUD and LIAR that you are.

Posted by: misssymoto | October 12, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Come'on People

Palin did not break the law in firing Monegan.

BUT The investigator said she DID BREAK THE LAW when she violated the ethics statute for going on a WITCH HUNT AFTER HER EX-BROTHER-IN-LAW!!!

Why can't any one (included the media outlets) get that straight?

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Real reformers work within the ethical boundaries of their office. Real reformers don't do state business on personal email. No matter how hard she tries to hide it, Palin is just another corrupt politician.

Posted by: petey5 | October 12, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

You people are so funny.
Tony22
How can you say that american has done more for black folks when the very soil that we stand on is motared with the blood of my ancesters.

Name me how many white people were sold off as cattle and had thier families torn apart at the hands of massa.

Then when massa couldn't get it on with Mrs. massa, Mr. massa found his way to the cabin and took the virgin daughter of the slave man that was powerless to do anything about it.

Yeah this is a great country and I love it and will defend it until the end, but how dare you tony22 try and justify the things done to me and my people as something that seemed to be a privilage and right for your people.

I wish people like you would own up to the fact that this country was built off the backs of slaves even the white house that the president sits.

I have reached the point now that I don't care how mad some conservative christain whites people get at rallies.

The fact is Blacks are not going to take it this time.
We want the same things that every american wants, which is the freedom of right for all americans. we work, not all of us are gang bangers. we love our families and suffer a lot because the system that we live in, is statistically not in our favor.

Still we try to maintain our dignity and do the best at what we can, and with what we have. So when we get that chance or that opportunity to get a good paying job, or a better home for our family, it's not because america has been good to us. It's because we earned it and deserve it.

I'm so sick and tired of the rascist people who pollute this nation with thier hatred that I can almost puke.

We were promised 40 achers and a mule still today I haven't seen it.

Any other ethnic group can come to this country and get buisness loans, work tax free, a house paid for, and a better start in life. The black american male is still fighting to prove that he's not a secound class citizen.

IT IS WRONG AND I DON"T CARE WHO DON"T LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I live in the time when Martin Luther King was killed right hear in Memphis.
I remember the stories how my grand parents worked in the fields and papa worked from sun up to sun down.

Naw my brother,get your facts right.
When we buy houses in white neighborhoods the forsale signs go up.
When we try to get our kids in the best schools there is always opposition.
I use to work for the county as an assistant plant manger for the school system and I had a supervisor that told me to my face that he was going to make sure that I didn't pass my probation and guess what, I didn't.
The things he wrote in my two evaluations even made some of the teachers sick to thier stomach. I was fired from the job even though the entire staff and falcuty loved me because of a good job I was doing.

Yeah america has problems and it's not Sen. Obama. It the poision that continues to be spread from generation to generation. Both blacks and whites.

See we are good when it come to entertaining, but when it comes to leading then america has a problem with black in that arena. Well I had to get this off my chest because it needed to be said. I've lived my life and before death closes my eye I asked God to let this chapter in our history be closed once and for all. We don't hate white people. It's the things that some of you do we hate.

Posted by: MDickey28 | October 12, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Tom22

You can call Senator Obama anything you wish now.

After November 4th you WILL address him by his proper title, President Obama Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America.

=> DEAL WITH IT

Posted by: administrator23 | October 12, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER VP WHO ABUSES POWER!

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE ABOUT THIS REPORT!

If this report was about Hillary, the right wing would be ALL OVER THIS

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Those CEOs and executives on Wall Street didn't do anything illegal, either.

They, and Sarah Palin, only broke the ethic, and people's trust.

Posted by: loveandpeace | October 12, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Obama is guilty of real abuse of power by creating earmarks to help his friends. It is a documented fact, why isn't anyone talking about his lies and abuse of power?

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=278820

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A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.

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A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.

Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

I would not be shocked if it turned out that Sarah Palin actually didn't know how to read. Remember when when Katie Couric asked her what magazines she read? She suddenly got that look in her eye that said, "crap, how did this lady know that I was illiterate".

Posted by: apesca | October 12, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

She’s bad news.

Bad news for the country and bad news for the planet.

If this is a taste of what 4 years with her and McCain would be like, NO THANKS!

She's bad news. That's all.

Posted by: francinelast | October 12, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

MUNGIKI--

new realtime fiction screenplay featuring Kenya and anti-Obama author now available online--

Mungiki--

Posted by: reconpresseusa | October 12, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh for God's sake, talk about trivial. And yet, when anyone says ANYTHING about The Messiah Obama's past history/associations/terrorist pals and so on, it's all conveniently called racist. And of course the Washington ComPost's Ombudsman sees the paper as "fair". Yeah, right.

Posted by: birvin9999 | October 12, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Palin = Iraq War 2003

The Media is apathetic towards this report.

Say anything wrong about her, your scorned as a sexist.

WERE IS THE OUTRAGE ABOUT THIS REPORT?!?!

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 12, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I had an interesting conversation with an older woman at a park today. She has been a life-long republican, but considered herself "independent" during the Bush/Cheney years.
She said that she thought John McCain would be a repubican she could support again based on his 2000 campaign and bipartisan image.

Then, she said, "but, when he picked Sarah Palin for his VP, that was the end for me. She is so obviously unqualified and it said too much about his character that he picked her." We had much in common in our assessment of Gov. Palin's negatives and it was refreshing to meet a republican who was free-thinking and able to critique her own candidate's choices (I know there are others like her out there, you just don't see it on this site much).

The second thing she said that struck me was this: "When John McCain pointed at Barack Obama and said, "That one," I don't know how whites heard it, but as a Jew who has been referred to as "Those people" over time, I heard it as dehumanizing and disrespecting Sen. Obama. I cannot stand for that."

Thank you, God, for reasonable, free-thinking citizens. Regrettably, Sarah Palin appeals to the same folks who voted for W. Those who go for image, not facts, and a narrow definition of what is "like" them - white, christian, married, and preferably, pro-life. America is a diverse country. We need a President who represents and cares about ALL of us.

Posted by: bethechange1 | October 12, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

binkynh asked, "Does Sarah Palin remind anyone of Dick Cheney?"

No. Dick Cheney is intelligent and physically ugly. In those two respects he differs from Palin.

He is also malevolent and poorly educated. In those respects, he resembles her.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

She didn't break the law - agreed. But she is not being level when she proclaims that there was also no "unethical" behavior. It flatly states that she did "abuse" her power in the report.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | October 12, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

that AFGHANI NARCO STATE


shades of black water....


The Share of the Afghan Heroin in the Global Drug Market

Afghanistan produces over 97 percent of the global supply of heroin and heroin represents a sizeable fraction of the global narcotics market, estimated by the UN to be of the order of $400-500 billion.
There are no reliable estimates on the distribution of the global narcotics trade between the main categories: Cocaine, Opium/Heroin, Cannabis, Amphetamine Type Stimulants (ATS), Other Drugs.


The Laundering of Drug Money, oh my.....so that is where all of that SUB PRIME money came from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The proceeds of the drug trade are deposited in the banking system. Drug money is laundered in the numerous offshore banking havens in Switzerland, Luxembourg, the British Channel Islands, the Cayman Islands and some 50 other locations around the globe.

It is here that the criminal syndicates involved in the drug trade and the representatives of the world's largest commercial banks interact. Dirty money is deposited in these offshore havens, which are controlled by the major Western commercial banks. see BCCI, GEORGE H.W. BUSH

The latter have a vested interest in maintaining and sustaining the drug trade. (For further details, see Michel Chossudovsky, The Crimes of Business and the Business of Crimes, Covert Action Quarterly, Fall 1996)


Once the money has been laundered, it can be recycled into bona fide investments not only in real estate, hotels, etc, but also in other areas such as the services economy and manufacturing. Dirty and covert money is also funneled into various financial instruments including the trade in derivatives, primary commodities, stocks, and government bonds.


Concluding Remarks: Criminalization of US Foreign Policy US foreign policy supports the workings of a thriving criminal economy in which the demarcation between organized capital and organized crime has become increasingly blurred.

The heroin business is not "filling the coffers of the Taliban" as claimed by US government and the international community: quite the opposite!

The proceeds of this illegal trade are the source of wealth formation, largely reaped by powerful business/criminal interests within the Western countries. These interests are sustained by US foreign policy. Decision-making in the US State Department,


the CIA and the Pentagon is instrumental in supporting this highly profitable multibillion dollar trade,


third in commodity value after oil and the arms trade.

The Afghan drug economy is "protected".

The heroin trade was part of the war agenda. What this war has achieved is to restore a compliant narco-State, headed by a US appointed puppet.

The powerful financial interests behind narcotics are supported by the militarisation of the world's major drug triangles (and transshipment routes), including the Golden Crescent and the Andean region of South America (under the so-called Andean Initiative).

oooooooooo la la....

.ROBERT M. GATES.


current Secretary of Defense and IRAN CONTRA FELON.....


knows all about DRUGS and the BUSH FAMILY


ask him and John Negroponte, Porter Goss, 'n Elliot Abrams....and the dick


.

Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse


Sarah Palin---


UNMITIGATED DISASTER!!!!

Posted by: misssymoto | October 12, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not stupid and she knows how to read. But Cheney, Rove, and Bush told her: you can say anything you want and the people believe it, they are so stupid!! We made them believe Bush was elected twice. . .

Posted by: FreeAmerica2 | October 12, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Let us now praise famous men.

David Broder has made a career out of being boring for 50 years.

It's good work, if you can find it.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Are any of you aware that the American economic system is melting down along with the ice caps? Why is it that Americans always seem to base their vote on inconsequential issues or out right lies - gay marriage, Bill Ayers, Willie Horton, Swift Boat etc. etc. The Republicans use the same tactics year after year and the electorate falls for it. It boggles the mind. It's no wonder the country is in the mess it's in. You just can't underestimate the American voter.

Posted by: rtc1 | October 12, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Does Sarah Palin remind anyone of Dick Cheney?

Posted by: binkynh | October 12, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama is guilty of real abuse of power and belongs in jail. Obama created earmarks to help his friends. It is a documented fact, why isn't anyone talking about his lies and abuse of power?

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=278820

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A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.


According to Judicial Watch, the documents were obtained under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton notes the documents reveal that Obama really took care of his friends and family members with taxpayer money.

"Twenty-five thousand dollars to his wife's cousin, $100,000 to a garden project in Illinois that went nowhere and was wasted, $100,000 to the radical Catholic Priest Father Pfleger, $75,000 to an organization called FORUM, which is run by a group of people that, after they got the grant, gave him thousands of dollars in campaign contributions," Fitton recounts.

He adds that Judicial Watch also recently obtained records detailing the nature of Obama's controversial relationship with domestic terrorist William Ayers and convicted felon Tony Rezko.

"This is an unholy triumvirate -- Obama, Mr. Rezko, and Mr. Ayers. And Mr. Ayers and his wife, who's also a terrorist, were unrepentant and they were political supporters of Barack Obama," Fitton contends. "And as importantly, Barack Obama, through this Chicago Annenberg challenge, was actually funding Ayers' radical efforts to educate our school children, which is frightening."

Fitton says it is beyond comprehension why anyone would give money to a terrorist

Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Way to be Sarah! You are a true hero giving voice to the ignorant, the bigoted, the homophobic and the hate filled illiterate who would otherwise be disenfranchised by those who value tolerance, acceptance, and possess cognitive thought.

Posted by: apesca | October 12, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

oh,

here's that a major teddy article I was looking for:

Voice of the White House February 28, 2005
TBR News.org February 28, 2005

"An absolute non-issue with the American print and TV media is the control by very powerful gays of the top policy levels of the White House. Growingly pointed comments inside the Beltway social clubs, homes and watering places about Karl Rove's "good friend" 'Jeff Gannon' are being very thoroughly ignored by the mainline press.

There are two reasons for this crashing silence. One is the fact that a large number of powerful and wealthy Republicans are gay and do not want their wives and children to discover that they put on leather underwear and spend their spare time at the Eagle over on New York Avenue or getting rough trade action at the Crew Club. Fat Karl Rove was seen by one of my people entering a private homosexual orgy at a five-star Washington hotel over the Mid-Atlantic Leather (MAL) weekend last year. All the self-hating loyal Republican gays at the no-pants party, many of them Senatorial aides and military types, of course pretended they didn't recognize him, and who can blame them - imagine how repulsive Fat Karl must look without his clothes. The report that came back was that Fat Karl greatly enjoyed the supervision of a certain hairy 350-lb.

Leather Dominator, who had won the

Miss Virginia Daddy Bear

title at the MAL festivities.

Karl used hang out at JR's, which is on 17th between P&S, before he became so well-known. This is a "respectable" gay bar for discreet people who do not wear mesh panties, high-heeled pumps and wear terrible wigs. How many people know about these activities? In Washington, a hell of a lot of the prominent. But very few of them dare to open their mouths because of their own small problems.


.small problems.


would those be David Broders and Freddy Hiatts????


Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Palin sounds more and more like the Bush administration every day.

To say she is cleared of any wrong doing is a false statement. I don't think she realizes the political damage she has done to her career. It may be forgotten or forgiven in Alaska but not the rest of the country.

Alaska needs to conduct a full investigation into the practices of Palin's administration in Alaska. She seems to be using the Bush/Cheney playbook (and we all know where that story ends).

An American

Posted by: ssanford00 | October 12, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

HEY!!!!!!!!! A M E R I C A N S

what's wrong with the country and the current corrupt government ????


they enacted a _P_L_A_N_N_E_D_ rigging of a game,


the FINANCIAL MARKET place,

the wealthy have fixed it so

that the rules, PRIVATIZE PROFIT


while SOCAILIZEing RISK....


what does that mean???? it means if you know the right people, you can BET THE ECONOMY AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA....without taking any personal risk...

IF _they_ ,

the filthy rich screw up, THEN,

YOU pay for it....Congress guarantees it...they pass the laws so that you have to handle bush and COMPANIES risks....

HOWsomeEVUH, IF you screw up you pay for that too....

if they send your jobs overseas and you can't pay your bills and your homes go into foreclosure and and you're sleeping in bus stops.....wellllllllllll


obviously that's your fault.


there's no risk to THE CORRUPT, and NO INVESTMENT in making sure that YOUR lives turn out okay....

but YOU THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THEM from the get go...


their risks are SOCIALIZED....part of our GOVERNMENT PAYOUT...


listen closely, the wealthy are on welfare, it's called tax breaks for the elite.....and development costs paid for corporations by citizens...

what do you think the _I_L_L_E_G_A_L_ invasion of IRAQ is about....you, the citizens, are paying the business expenses of BIG OIL...you pay the military to steal it

and _THEY_ get the oil deals and the rights to sell you at a huge profit the oil that your military captures for them...


and the soldiers???? they get less bennies than under Viet Nam, and they have to hire a lawyer to collect medical benefits even

if they got no legs.........or half a skull missing ??? see the film "Body of War."


how do you feel about those non-compete bids for HALLIBURTON, CARLYLE GROUP, and BLACKWATER


huh!!!!?


AMERICA????


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Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Palin was completely cleared of having any ethics.

Posted by: carmineappice | October 12, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

HEY!!!!!!!!! A M E R I C A N S

what's wrong with the country and the current corrupt government ????


they enacted a _P_L_A_N_N_E_D_ rigging of a game,


the FINANCIAL MARKET place,

the wealthy have fixed it so

that the rules, PRIVATIZE PROFIT


while SOCAILIZEing RISK....


what does that mean???? it means if you know the right people, you can BET THE ECONOMY AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA....without taking any personal risk...

IF _they_ ,

the filthy rich screw up, THEN,

YOU pay for it....Congress guarantees it...they pass the laws so that you have to handle bush and COMPANIES risks....

HOWsomeEVUH, IF you screw up you pay for that too....

if they send your jobs overseas and you can't pay your bills and your homes go into foreclosure and and you're sleeping in bus stops.....wellllllllllll


obviously that's your fault.


there's no risk to THE CORRUPT, and NO INVESTMENT in making sure that YOUR lives turn out okay....

but YOU THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THEM from the get go...


their risks are SOCIALIZED....part of our GOVERNMENT PAYOUT...


listen closely, the wealthy are on welfare, it's called tax breaks for the elite.....and development costs paid for corporations by citizens...

what do you think the _I_L_L_E_G_A_L_ invasion of IRAQ is about....you, the citizens, are paying the business expenses of BIG OIL...you pay the military to steal it

and _THEY_ get the oil deals and the rights to sell you at a huge profit the oil that your military captures for them...


and the soldiers???? they get less bennies than under Viet Nam, and they have to hire a lawyer to collect medical benefits even

if they got no legs.........or half a skull missing ??? see the film "Body of War."


how do you feel about those non-compete bids for HALLIBURTON, CARLYLE GROUP, and BLACKWATER


huh!!!!?


AMERICA????


.

Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

let's get serious here,


John McCain and Sarah Palin


are just hekyl and jekyl....they're road kill...


they don't matter.


you choose them and bush and cronies will still be in power...

that's what's goin on...


nothing else....

.nada.

Rove is playing the same defamation of character game,


while you all decide if you're going to buy the gay marriage scam again.....vote your future away because you're easily distracted by sound candy

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Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

What???????????? Did she get a different report from what we saw in the media and internet? She was cleared of wrong doing? Now she is mocking the intelligence of her supporters. It's obvious that she thinks her supporters are morons who will believe in anything she says.

Posted by: nri1998 | October 12, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS GUILTY OF REAL ABUSE OF POWER! OBAMA BELONGS IN JAIL!!! OBAMA CREATED EARMARKS TO HELP HIS FRIENDS!

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A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.


According to Judicial Watch, the documents were obtained under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton notes the documents reveal that Obama really took care of his friends and family members with taxpayer money.

"Twenty-five thousand dollars to his wife's cousin, $100,000 to a garden project in Illinois that went nowhere and was wasted, $100,000 to the radical Catholic Priest Father Pfleger, $75,000 to an organization called FORUM, which is run by a group of people that, after they got the grant, gave him thousands of dollars in campaign contributions," Fitton recounts.

He adds that Judicial Watch also recently obtained records detailing the nature of Obama's controversial relationship with domestic terrorist William Ayers and convicted felon Tony Rezko.

"This is an unholy triumvirate -- Obama, Mr. Rezko, and Mr. Ayers. And Mr. Ayers and his wife, who's also a terrorist, were unrepentant and they were political supporters of Barack Obama," Fitton contends. "And as importantly, Barack Obama, through this Chicago Annenberg challenge, was actually funding Ayers' radical efforts to educate our school children, which is frightening."

Fitton says it is beyond comprehension why anyone would give money to a terrorist


Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

"Parrot Palin is as deceptive in her declaration of her innocence as she is in the venom she spouts on the campaign trail. She is a congenital liar.

Posted by: tydicea"

The only PARROT in this election is your Messiah Obama. He's spent 22 months on the Campaign Trail memorizing slogans. But, like all good Affirmative Action Parrots he can dress up in a suit and do a good interview but he never accomplishes anything when he gets the job. PARROT! ha ha ha....Everyone knows Obama is a Parrot.

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it funny: Barack Obama has been campaigning for President for two years; he has participated in about 26 debates; he has been vetted by the press; and he has written two memoirs. Yet, the McCain campaign is asking, "Who is Barack Obama?" and some of their supporters still feel suspicious that they don't "know" him.

Sarah Palin was unknown on the national scene until about 5 weeks ago; she has given very few unscripted interviews; she has been protected from press scrutiny by her campaign who clearly don't trust her on her own; much of her initial narrative about being a "reformer" turned out not to be true; she has been mostly nasty in a charming, television-friendly kind of way; and now, she was found to have violated ethical standards in her role as Governor of Alaska, even if she was not found to have been unlawful. Despite all of this, her supporters feel they "know" her, or at least, they know all they care to know about her - they blindly adore her persona and feel she is "like" them.

Interesting, isn't it? How do we understand this? The only way to understand it is that right-wing republicans never trusted John McCain and they were so desperate for an evangelical, pro-lifer on the ticket, that they could easily embrace a pretty, white, mom with a handsome husband and cute kids (even the pregnant teen, which seemed to be no big deal - they were just so delighted to embrace Sarah Palin).

The McCain campaign can say they are "shocked" at John Lewis's comments yesterday, but the truth is that all of these strategies, "Who is Barack Obama?" "He doesn't see America the way we do," "He pals around with terrorists," "He's a man of the streets,"are thinly veiled attempts to keep reminding supporters that Barack Obama is (half) black. That he is "that one." The other.

Sarah Palin has lied, been found guilty of ethical misconduct, and has been kept cloistered from the community - yet, her supporters "know" her in a way that they do not want to "know" Barack Obama - they will not read his books or his website or Factcheck.org. They will not see his beautiful family with no divorces, no affairs, no teen pregnancies, ... just two beautiful girls and a successful wife who is the mother of his children.

It will be a moral victory for America if we elect Barack Obama and show the people who refuse to "know" Barack Obama that the racism and small-mindedness underneath that ignorance is unacceptable and not all of who America is.

Posted by: bethechange1 | October 12, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Sarah and her Moose Stew rock!! And so does the USA!!

Posted by: jjcrocket | October 12, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

WHAT is Sarah Palin smoking?!!!!!


She is a NATIONAL EMBARASSMENT!!

Isn't it time for an intelligent, educated President in this country?? We have suffered enough......

Posted by: misssymoto | October 12, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

ABUSE OF POWER? How can people even consider voting for Palin? It's like voting for Nixon/Watergate?

Posted by: mashie | October 12, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Awww geez. Double-speakin' all the way to the gosh-darned Whitehouse. X-o

Posted by: m1232 | October 12, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Palin must be getting horrible legal advice to think that she was cleared of all wrongdoing in this. This woman's denial of reality is astounding, yet people want her one heartbeat away from the presidency?

Amazing, simply amazing.

(I wonder if she's one of those people who still believe that Iraq had WMDs or was involved in 9/11. With her inability to recognize reality, I bet she does.)

Posted by: chi-town | October 12, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Parrot Palin is as deceptive in her declaration of her innocence as she is in the venom she spouts on the campaign trail. She is a congenital liar.

Posted by: tydicea | October 12, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

For those who are not sure that Obama is not qualified to be president. I think that he's more qualified than McCain and definitely far more qualified than Palin. Everyone, compare McCain's record with Obama's.

McCain's student record (894 out of 899 in the Naval Academy and who actually got in the Academy using his dad's and grand-daddy's CONNECTIONS since they were both admirals) is less than MEDIOCRE. Oh, by the way, how come McCain got to fly (and recklessly crash) 5 planes if he finished at the bottom of his class? Answer: daddy and gran-daddy connections! After coming back from war, he CHEATED his first wife (since she didn't look all the good after a terrible accident) and married a millionaire who paid for his expenses to get in the Senate. Besides being a POW (who deserve respect for that but DOES NOT automatically qualify you to be president) he is empty. How many POWs do we have here in the US? Hundreds! Are they all qualified? No. That's a HUGE FALLACY, and has no logic. He has no relevant INTELLECTUAL accomplishments! Nothing. McCain actually is mentally unstable (ask anyone who has worked with him) and erratic, very dangerous to lead our country.

Obama, who wasn't born with a silver spoon like McCain and studied his tail off, is a graduate of Columbia University, has a law degree from Harvard, editor of the Harvard Law Review, 12 years in politics, four years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and manager of one of the most impressively flawless and forward thinking presidential campaigns ever. He has shown a better temper and leadership during the crisis.

Obama is far, far more qualified and smart than McCain AND Palin combined! Obama has knowledge, judgment, and yes, some experience in politics as he has proven during the campaign and the debates. In case needed, we have Joe Biden who can provide his huge experience. McCain on the other hand has Sarah Palin who can memorize lines and repeat them like a parrot and... a great smile! Can we trust her? Not a minute!

Yes, when it comes to this election Obama and Biden ARE THE BEST TICKET, BY FAR. Period.

Posted by: d_hyperion | October 12, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

SARAH PALIN---Please go back to Alaska!!

We need educated, traveled, respected leadership, not a Jerry Springer Side Show!!

YOUR LIES AND CORRUPTION KNOWS NO BOUNDS!!


Posted by: misssymoto | October 12, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

I love all the chatter about “reverse racism” and how blacks have “a chip on their shoulders” and should “get over it”.

I’m an old retired “wop”. When I was a kid I lived in an Italian neighborhood in New York and never saw a black face. In public school every kid’s name ended in a vowel. I learned nothing of Jim Crow or segregation in the South. I learned nothing of black history other than they were slaves before the Civil War and Booker T. Washington.

I got a job in a bank mail room when I was 16 and met my first black man up close and personal. I’ll call him J. J. He was a grown man doing the same job as a high school kid.

I cringe to this day when I think of the fact that I called him “boy” more than once. Why? Because I had seen it in the movies and thought it was acceptable.

After I did it several times he quietly but firmly asked that I not call him that. His name was “John”. His dignity made me understand that I had done something dreadfully wrong. He looked at me like a disapproving father.

I learned from that man his struggles and his family’s struggles and what it meant to be a black man in America.

I left that job and went on to college and watched the country erupt in flames. I spent four years in the Army during Vietnam and learned some more.

Then came the murder of civil rights workers in Mississippi and the death of Viola Liuzzo.

:Liuzzo was one of “my people”.. She left her home to travel to Selma because she had been horrified by the TV coverage of the march over the Edmund Pettus Bridge. She went to help.

While driving marchers home she was spotted by Klan members, chased 20 miles and shot dead in her car. Her funeral was held in Detroit attended by many prominent members of the civil rights movement and the Michigan state government, including M. L. King, James Farmer and Roy Wilkins.

It was later revealed that there was an FBI informant in the car with the Klan. He did nothing to stop the murder. J. Edgar Hoover didn’t care for the civil rights movement.

Two weeks later a burning cross was placed in front of Viola’s old home.

We have come along way since those days. We still have a long way to go.

If you want to know what 1940s America (not 1860s America) was really like for black people read Gunnar Myrdal’s “An American Dilemma - The Negro Problem and Modern Democracy”.

“Walk a mile in another man’s shoes.....”

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

' Palin said she was "pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."'

The capacity of this woman to overlook inconvenient facts never ceases to amaze. The report concluded she violated ethics rules and she acts as if she's been cleared of all wrongdoing, just as she continued to go on about the bridge to nowwhere when it had been revealed she initially favored it.

The intellectual dishonesty continues...

Posted by: andrew_luks | October 12, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

The report says she violated the state's ethics statute, that her husband had inappropriate access to her staff and state records, and that this amounts to an abuse of power.

How does she figure she's been cleared of wrong-doing? She could reassign her commissioner, but she wasn't allowed - nor was her best friend and husband - to abuse her position to harass someone supervised by the commissioner!

She and McCain both found to have exercised poor judgment - in her case, to beat up a jerk of a brother in law; in his case, to help his wife and father in law to make a lot of money.

What part of "ethics" is so hard for them to understand?????

Posted by: practica1 | October 12, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

You would think she would at least be President before she started talking like Richard Nixon.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | October 12, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS GUILTY OF REAL ABUSE OF POWER! OBAMA BELONGS IN JAIL!!! OBAMA CREATED EARMARKS TO HELP HIS FRIENDS!

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A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.


According to Judicial Watch, the documents were obtained under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton notes the documents reveal that Obama really took care of his friends and family members with taxpayer money.

"Twenty-five thousand dollars to his wife's cousin, $100,000 to a garden project in Illinois that went nowhere and was wasted, $100,000 to the radical Catholic Priest Father Pfleger, $75,000 to an organization called FORUM, which is run by a group of people that, after they got the grant, gave him thousands of dollars in campaign contributions," Fitton recounts.

He adds that Judicial Watch also recently obtained records detailing the nature of Obama's controversial relationship with domestic terrorist William Ayers and convicted felon Tony Rezko.

"This is an unholy triumvirate -- Obama, Mr. Rezko, and Mr. Ayers. And Mr. Ayers and his wife, who's also a terrorist, were unrepentant and they were political supporters of Barack Obama," Fitton contends. "And as importantly, Barack Obama, through this Chicago Annenberg challenge, was actually funding Ayers' radical efforts to educate our school children, which is frightening."

Fitton says it is beyond comprehension why anyone would give money to a terrorist


Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

This is what I mean when I say, "Greed is a constant":

Let the government decree a 50% income tax. Let them also say, "This will be on the honor system, no enforcement will be undertaken."

How much tax will be collected?

Can the people who don't pay tax under that regime really be faulted for acting the way any normal, self-interested human being would act?

Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

BEWARE of the writings of PAT BUCHANAN:
"Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new "ladders of opportunity" for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for "deserving" white kids.

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago."

BEWARE of the writings of PAT BUCHANAN!

You MUST vote for Obama because President Barack Obama will do the following:

Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for White Students
Decrease Financial aid for White students
Decrease Student loans for White students
End White Privilege

You MUST vote for Obama!

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Her actions were not illegal; they were just unethical. It seems she is taking comfort in simple pleasures. Now she is beginning to sound like a lawyer: "I am NOT a crook." Maybe she is experienced enough to operate in Washington.

Posted by: csintala79 | October 12, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

"An earlier poster wrote that this was a "baseless attack" on Palin by "Afro American Muslim terrorists." Sir, I have to ask, are you nuts?"

YOU HAVE TO ASK???!!!!!

Posted by: thrh | October 12, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Whatever type of Christian Palin is, it doesn't appear to be the cheek-turning, truth-telling kind.

Posted by: pennycentury | October 12, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Words to describe Sarah Palin:
insulting,
abusive,
offensive,
malicious,
slanderous,
scathing,
scornful,
dishonest
mocking,
conflict-ridden
derisive,
sarcastic,
contemptuous,
corrupt
harsh,
acerbic
vituperative,
hateful,
spiteful,
malevolent,
mean,
nasty,
cruel,
insincere
witch

Posted by: francinelast | October 12, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow, what a well researched and insightful article, how well the author did into digging into the depths of what Palin said and what the real facts are.

Good, Lord, if this were Obama or Biden, this would be headlining the news for the next 3 weeks.

Why does this egocentric amoral twit get to explain without any questions. When those interviews were done they could only ask one question with no follow ups.

Great reporting, NOT!

Posted by: hmmmmmer | October 12, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

She's lying, of course. It's what she does so well. Alice in Wonderland or 1984 - take your pick - words mean whatever she chooses them to mean. "Guilty" equals "vindication".

Considering, however that her combined SAT scores were 841...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MhRRZn0fCOQ/SO5tb_-0NII/AAAAAAAAA4o/H7IAKbobMN8/s1600-h/Picture_754.jpg

...it's hardly surprising that her reading comprehension is so poor that she might actually mistake "guilty" for "vindication".

If this is America's idea of a President-in-waiting, I think it's time to recognize that the world is a very large place indeed.

Posted by: pwintersmd | October 12, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

It's easy for Caribou Barbie to dismiss the breach of ethics detailed in the report because it's been decades since there was a 'Con with any ethics to speak of.

Meanwhile the 'Con Chorus will continue to distract themselves via the tired old tactics of guilt-by-association, making any and all excuses to avoid acceptance of their hypocrisy, and continue their scorched earth campaign of fear and hatred. It's no wonder they have embraced the anti-intellectual creed of the far right; only an idiot would follow these deadenders.

Posted by: washpost18 | October 12, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm still wondering how Palin translated "abuse of power" into "vindication of her innocence"

Posted by: elle330033 | October 12, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

In a Saturday conference call with Alaska journalists, Palin said she was "pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."

SARAH PALIN DOES NOT GET IT.CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO HER WHAT THE REPORT SAID IN SIMPLE LANGUAGE

Posted by: ramsistla | October 12, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Contrast Palin/McCain with the rationale, calm and collected approach of Obama/Biden. Contrast the anti-intellectual rants of Palin, her "Joe six-pack" nonsense, along with the 5th from the bottom of his class tired simplicity of McCain, with the Harvard educated, constitutional scholar Obama. Contrast the Palin audiences, with calls to "lynch him" and "were mad as hell" tirades with Obama audiences as they mutually discuss solutions to the morass of America's economic and foreign policy problems. Need more be said? America is in deep, serious trouble. Good looks, Joe six pack and neocon has beens are not going to save us. I don't completely agree with all of Obama's politics at all. But, I will trust his intellectual capability and his openness to other points of view a thousand times more then I would ever trust the muddled stupidity of Palin or the washed out ideology of McCain.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | October 12, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS GUILTY OF REAL ABUSE OF POWER! OBAMA BELONGS IN JAIL!!! OBAMA CREATED EARMARKS TO HELP HIS FRIENDS!

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A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.


According to Judicial Watch, the documents were obtained under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton notes the documents reveal that Obama really took care of his friends and family members with taxpayer money.

"Twenty-five thousand dollars to his wife's cousin, $100,000 to a garden project in Illinois that went nowhere and was wasted, $100,000 to the radical Catholic Priest Father Pfleger, $75,000 to an organization called FORUM, which is run by a group of people that, after they got the grant, gave him thousands of dollars in campaign contributions," Fitton recounts.

He adds that Judicial Watch also recently obtained records detailing the nature of Obama's controversial relationship with domestic terrorist William Ayers and convicted felon Tony Rezko.

"This is an unholy triumvirate -- Obama, Mr. Rezko, and Mr. Ayers. And Mr. Ayers and his wife, who's also a terrorist, were unrepentant and they were political supporters of Barack Obama," Fitton contends. "And as importantly, Barack Obama, through this Chicago Annenberg challenge, was actually funding Ayers' radical efforts to educate our school children, which is frightening."

Fitton says it is beyond comprehension why anyone would give money to a terrorist


Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

This is what I mean when I say, "Greed is a constant":

Let the government decree a 50% income tax. Let them also say, "This will be on the honor system, no enforcement will be undertaken."

How much tax will be collected?

Can the people who don't pay tax under that regime really be faulted for acting the way any normal, self-interested human being would act?

Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Does palin think everyone is a stupid as she is? The ethics probe clearly said she abused her power as governor. The newspapers and news stations all reported that fact. So she thinks saying it isn't is enough to change anyone's minds? My GOd, what a dope. Read the report. They don';t recomend prosecuting her because the criminal case would be too difficult to prove definiteively, but do say she clearly broke ethics codes and abused her authority. And this is the only real job she ever had!!!!! She was in office for only a few months before she started to egregiously break the public trust for personal vendetta. I can't decide whether she is bush orcheney in a dress. She seems to combine the worst qualities of both in one disgusting lipstick smeared package.

Posted by: John1263 | October 12, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's middle name should be "Spin". She is shameless, and must think that we are all fools, and/or, that we are about as smart as she. Her selection speaks volumes about McCain: his moral values, his cynicism towards our collective IQ, and/or, his intelligence and judgement.

The only Republican in my mind that personifies integrity is Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, and apparently the Republican Party has basically cut off his funding because of his steady opposition to Bush's tragic, foolishly conceived Iraq War. The rest of them (of national prominence), seem like they are from another planet, where right is actually wrong, up is down.. Such strange, shameful, pitiful, and sad times we are enduring..

Please wake up America! We deserve so much better.

Posted by: Jakey2 | October 12, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

HELLO PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to solve a situation you have to understand it.


there is no real liquidity without a middle class.


there is no middle class if outsourcing is "the way to go," to avoid support or labor costs...without middle class people spending the money that they have earned, there is no liquidity....if every billionaire buys seven refrigerators how many refrigerators will a thousand millionaires buy?


I know it's beyond most of you.


and bank fraud? try the current adminstration which has been working congress since 1950...Prescott Bush...the original "war profiteer"

George H.W.'s father....bank fraud and war profiteering aka "skimming"


your country at the hands of corruption. SEE BCCI, Bush, Silverado, MCI


.

------------------------------------------------------

lack of money isn't the problem...

the problem is that the middle class has been harvested, and their "buying ways," have been curtailed by "no money anymore."


and "rich people," who've bought their way into control of the legislative process, and write the laws that benefit them and not the country are too stupid to realize that

when there is no product in GDP, that money ceases to have real meaning...


I know that is beyond you, but trading paper produces nothing....and not have any products produced in-country means dollars go out-of-country daily...


while companies pretending to be AMERICAN have 97 PERCENT of their labor costs going to overseas companies...


no in-country employees earning money?


so AMERICAN citizens got no money, they got no jobs, no matter how cheap it gets it's too much money when you got none, comprende?

---------------------------------------------------


the current administration has been _selling_


that the economy is okay for 7.8 years now....but the U.S. of A. she don't _PRODUCE_ anything anymore....and white collar jobs are overseas too...


and 3rd World country managers are in_country replacing managers as well, and medical/architectual/modeling jobs are now being outsourced...

that's lower upper class people/jobs being harvested for the last three years...


whose next? the rest, aka the economy D.A.'s


The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI) is one of the measures of national income and output for a given country's economy. ...

____________________________________________


you want to fix the economy???


make it a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.....and messing with it treason.


stop outsourcing yesterday, bring customer service jobs in_country immediately....if it's a federal mandate for _all_ it'll be managed...


fix the infrastructure. make cities safe and livable, discourage driving by encouraging telecommuting

I could come up with 25 things that would generate GDP and REAL PRODUCT in_country in two weeks....


but then I'm not a corrupt government bush family member trying to scam you....I am an engineer

and I KNOW how things work.....I don't sell you propaganda as fact and make you stupid with incorrect premise and information.


.


catch a clue,


search on Union Bank, BCCI, Silverado, bush


search on Union Bank, Prescott Bush, Remington, Standard Oil, steel, nazis


.

Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Tom22, I guess your ancestors never taught you the virtues of the compounding of interest, which any upper middle class white or black person understands perfectly.

If you understand the compounding of interest, and you understand US history, you realize that people who were separated from their families, brought here in chains in the bilges of banana boats, enslaved between 1663 and 1863 and legally discriminated against until 1963 might be at a bit of a competitive disadvantage in our economy.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I'm just an onlooker, and I'm not taking sides on this issue, but when I read these comment sections, I often see replies that (1) Don't address the question (e.g. Palin), (2) use misdirection (Trooper-gate) , and (3) use childish name-calling (e.g. Nobama, McSame).

Are you guys plants and paid shills? Or are you concerned citizens that lack critical thinking skills?

I pray that, for the sake of my country, my fellow citizens aren't this dumb, and instead this is just an example of astroturf (e.g. paid shills posting).

Posted by: steve1231 | October 12, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

HELLO PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to solve a situation you have to understand it.


there is no real liquidity without a middle class.


there is no middle class if outsourcing is "the way to go," to avoid support or labor costs...without middle class people spending the money that they have earned, there is no liquidity....if every billionaire buys seven refrigerators how many refrigerators will a thousand millionaires buy?


I know it's beyond most of you.


and bank fraud? try the current adminstration which has been working congress since 1950...Prescott Bush...the original "war profiteer"

George H.W.'s father....bank fraud and war profiteering aka "skimming"


your country at the hands of corruption. SEE BCCI, Bush, Silverado, MCI


.

------------------------------------------------------

lack of money isn't the problem...

the problem is that the middle class has been harvested, and their "buying ways," have been curtailed by "no money anymore."


and "rich people," who've bought their way into control of the legislative process, and write the laws that benefit them and not the country are too stupid to realize that

when there is no product in GDP, that money ceases to have real meaning...


I know that is beyond you, but trading paper produces nothing....and not have any products produced in-country means dollars go out-of-country daily...


while companies pretending to be AMERICAN have 97 PERCENT of their labor costs going to overseas companies...


no in-country employees earning money?


so AMERICAN citizens got no money, they got no jobs, no matter how cheap it gets it's too much money when you got none, comprende?

---------------------------------------------------


the current administration has been _selling_


that the economy is okay for 7.8 years now....but the U.S. of A. she don't _PRODUCE_ anything anymore....and white collar jobs are overseas too...


and 3rd World country managers are in_country replacing managers as well, and medical/architectual/modeling jobs are now being outsourced...

that's lower upper class people/jobs being harvested for the last three years...


whose next? the rest, aka the economy D.A.'s


The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI) is one of the measures of national income and output for a given country's economy. ...

____________________________________________


you want to fix the economy???


make it a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.....and messing with it treason.


stop outsourcing yesterday, bring customer service jobs in_country immediately....if it's a federal mandate for _all_ it'll be managed...


fix the infrastructure. make cities safe and livable, discourage driving by encouraging telecommuting

I could come up with 25 things that would generate GDP and REAL PRODUCT in_country in two weeks....


but then I'm not a corrupt government bush family member trying to scam you....I am an engineer

and I KNOW how things work.....I don't sell you propaganda as fact and make you stupid with incorrect premise and information.


.


catch a clue,


search on Union Bank, BCCI, Silverado, bush


search on Union Bank, Prescott Bush, Remington, Standard Oil, steel, nazis


.

Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

This women is nuts. She is as good a liar as Cheney.

Her GED educated husband is part of the deal with her.

Vote Obama.

Posted by: COWENS99 | October 12, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Ordinary people who lies in public and infront of the camera are ended up in jail, why not Palin. She deserve to be in jail.

Posted by: goldieluck | October 12, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Who is firing who..& who is shooting the fire..lately.
Remember that Lunch with Clinton, after the a women for vice was introduced.
NOW THE FIRE IS OUT..WHAT A SHOW.

WHEN A HUMAN LIKE OBAMA IS INTO STUFF & IS AN IDOL TO MUCH PEOPLE.. LIKE SOME OF NAME BRAND,, PEOPLE ARE JUST MANIC & DESPERATE.

Posted by: suttons77hotmailcom | October 12, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse


FANNIE MAE, and FREDDIE MAC


guarantee MORTGAGE POOLS and individual loans.....they don't make loans, nor do they encourage low income mortgages....


they are PRESSURED TO GUARANTEE THEM by corrupt banking officials...


they are also both backed by $800 BILLION DOLLARS worth of stocks and other financial instruments....


the culprits for the current fiasco? stupid BORN_rich people that have no experience with anything but influence peddling, bid rigging, price fixing, and using electoral fraud to get a hold of the government...

whoever has gotten a non compete bid from the first 6 years of the bush administration.

whoever paid Niel, George W., Jeb and George H.W.'s way through life....SAND BROTHERS in UAE, Kuwiat, Saudi

it's all a matter of record....you can attach their family holdings and anyone associated with them....

think UAE has some money? think the bushes would use it to manipulate markets????

please, SEARCH on George W. Bush, Victor Ashe, Jeff Gannon


see what they do that you don't know about.


Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I guess if you repeat the lie enough, even you will come to believe it. The finding I read said she abused her power. Either she doesn't know how to read or she's lying again.

Posted by: sarahabc | October 12, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA ACTED WITH REAL ABUSE OF POWER! I can't believe people are making such a big deal about Palin when OBAMA is knee deep in abuse of power with EARMARKS!
Obama is the one who people should be talking about, he gave his friends money and favors when in the Illinois senate.
.

A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.


According to Judicial Watch, the documents were obtained under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton notes the documents reveal that Obama really took care of his friends and family members with taxpayer money.

"Twenty-five thousand dollars to his wife's cousin, $100,000 to a garden project in Illinois that went nowhere and was wasted, $100,000 to the radical Catholic Priest Father Pfleger, $75,000 to an organization called FORUM, which is run by a group of people that, after they got the grant, gave him thousands of dollars in campaign contributions," Fitton recounts.

He adds that Judicial Watch also recently obtained records detailing the nature of Obama's controversial relationship with domestic terrorist William Ayers and convicted felon Tony Rezko.

"This is an unholy triumvirate -- Obama, Mr. Rezko, and Mr. Ayers. And Mr. Ayers and his wife, who's also a terrorist, were unrepentant and they were political supporters of Barack Obama," Fitton contends. "And as importantly, Barack Obama, through this Chicago Annenberg challenge, was actually funding Ayers' radical efforts to educate our school children, which is frightening."

Fitton says it is beyond comprehension why anyone would give money to a terrorist


Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

This is what I mean when I say, "Greed is a constant":

Let the government decree a 50% income tax. Let them also say, "This will be on the honor system, no enforcement will be undertaken."

How much tax will be collected?

Can the people who don't pay tax under that regime really be faulted for acting the way any normal, self-interested human being would act?

Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

An earlier poster wrote that this was a "baseless attack" on Palin by "Afro American Muslim terrorists." Sir, I have to ask, are you nuts? How many of those guys are in the Alaska legislature, which initiated the investigation? As many posters noted, the makeup of the legislative committee was 10 Republicans, 4 Democrats.
Ms. Palin either knows better and is trying to spin this completely backwards -- or she is really a fool. Either way, she is not vice presidential material. No way, no how.
I am a 65-year-old female and find her nomination truly an insult to anyone with a brain and a uterus. Of course that has already been said ad nauseam.

Posted by: peck3 | October 12, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Just remember Republicans when you vote for McCain, you will also be putting a woman who has shown to abuse her power for personal reasons within arms length of the Presidency. Are you ready for that responsibility? Are you ready to account for 4 more years of the same under a McCain administration?

You question Obama's truthfulness. He has already told the truth about Ayers but you all keep using it as a weapon to bring about anger and racism in your constituents.

Well let's talk about Sarah Palin's truthfulness? I like how she puts a spin on it to make like she has done nothing wrong.

However she has a history of abusing her power. She fired the librarian in Wasilla when she was mayor. Banned any books lately Sarah?

Ye who is without sin throw the first stone. Sarah has been throwing enough stones at Obama but the way I see it she needs to put the rocks down and TRUTHFULLY
answer to her and her husbands role in the firing of the Public Safety comissioner.

Posted by: bjlopez1130 | October 12, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

eeny weeny,Palin's a meany, speak spirit speak , throw the demons out.Inside Palin's shell lie the reincarnated soul of Adolf Hitler.

Posted by: majorteddy | October 12, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

HEY!!!!!!!!! A M E R I C A N S

what's wrong with the country and the current corrupt government ????


they enacted a _P_L_A_N_N_E_D_ rigging of a game,


the FINANCIAL MARKET place,

the wealthy have fixed it so

that the rules, PRIVATIZE PROFIT


while SOCAILIZEing RISK....


what does that mean???? it means if you know the right people, you can BET THE ECONOMY AND THE FUTURE OF AMERICA....without taking any personal risk...

IF _they_ ,

the filthy rich screw up, THEN,

YOU pay for it....Congress guarantees it...they pass the laws so that you have to handle bush and COMPANIES risks....

HOWsomeEVUH, IF you screw up you pay for that too....

if they send your jobs overseas and you can't pay your bills and your homes go into foreclosure and and you're sleeping in bus stops.....wellllllllllll


obviously that's your fault.


there's no risk to THE CORRUPT, and NO INVESTMENT in making sure that YOUR lives turn out okay....

but YOU THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THEM from the get go...


their risks are SOCIALIZED....part of our GOVERNMENT PAYOUT...


listen closely, the wealthy are on welfare, it's called tax breaks for the elite.....and development costs paid for corporations by citizens...

what do you think the _I_L_L_E_G_A_L_ invasion of IRAQ is about....you, the citizens, are paying the business expenses of BIG OIL...you pay the military to steal it

and _THEY_ get the oil deals and the rights to sell you at a huge profit the oil that your military captures for them...


and the soldiers???? they get less bennies than under Viet Nam, and they have to hire a lawyer to collect medical benefits even

if they got no legs.........or half a skull missing ??? see the film "Body of War."


how do you feel about those non-compete bids for HALLIBURTON, CARLYLE GROUP, and BLACKWATER


huh!!!!?


AMERICA????


.

Posted by: tesser_actsoflove1 | October 12, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

WHAT A COLOSSAL LIAR PALIN IS!

Posted by: garry2 | October 12, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Black is white. Up is down. Left is right.

Posted by: osroe | October 12, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Liar, liar Palin playing on fire. This pathological liar is needed to go back in Alaska before damaging the whole country. She can play with Putin by herself. PIG!

Posted by: goldieluck | October 12, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

pgr88, all the capital letters in the world won't help the deficiency in your argument: "The report ACTUALLY exonerated Palin"

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

She investigated herself and found no wrong doing. Sounds presidential to me. Pay no attention to that bi-partisan report over there. Or Todd Palin sitting with a stack of personnel files.

Posted by: SarahBB | October 12, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Did I miss something in the news today? When last I heard the news reports, they said that the investigative report had found that Plain unduly used her influence to try to get her ex-brother-in-law fired. How is that cleared?

Posted by: majorteddy | October 12, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post seems to have disregarded the investigator's findings as well. Since when is a governor's abuse of power underplayed to this extent? Why is the media so timid when it comes to Sarah Palin? By standing idle when the truth should be told, you are contributing to a potential catastraphe: The possibliity of a third term of Republicans in the White House who are known to abuse power at the expense of the American people. Get yourself some cojones, press. Do your jobs.

Posted by: JamieRoberts | October 12, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Another manufactured main-stream-media scandal. The report ACTUALLY exonerated Palin, but you would never know that by reading NY Times, AP, CBS, etc...

Why don't people think for themselves and stop being told what to believe? Afraid of wandering off the Lib reservation?

Posted by: pgr88 | October 12, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow! You really have to conclude that there are so many examples of her dishonesty that Sarah Palin is a pathological liar.

Oh, and by the way, read what it actually says instead of listening to that loathesome snake Palin:

Branchflower Report Finding Number One

For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides

The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | October 12, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

REAL ABUSE OF POWER!
.

A public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption says it has obtained documents detailing earmarks submitted by Barack Obama on behalf of his family and political supporters during his time in the Illinois senate.

According to Judicial Watch, the documents were obtained under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton notes the documents reveal that Obama really took care of his friends and family members with taxpayer money.

"Twenty-five thousand dollars to his wife's cousin, $100,000 to a garden project in Illinois that went nowhere and was wasted, $100,000 to the radical Catholic Priest Father Pfleger, $75,000 to an organization called FORUM, which is run by a group of people that, after they got the grant, gave him thousands of dollars in campaign contributions," Fitton recounts.

He adds that Judicial Watch also recently obtained records detailing the nature of Obama's controversial relationship with domestic terrorist William Ayers and convicted felon Tony Rezko.

"This is an unholy triumvirate -- Obama, Mr. Rezko, and Mr. Ayers. And Mr. Ayers and his wife, who's also a terrorist, were unrepentant and they were political supporters of Barack Obama," Fitton contends. "And as importantly, Barack Obama, through this Chicago Annenberg challenge, was actually funding Ayers' radical efforts to educate our school children, which is frightening."

Fitton says it is beyond comprehension why anyone would give money to a terrorist

Posted by: in4fun143 | October 12, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

This is what I mean when I say, "Greed is a constant":

Let the government decree a 50% income tax. Let them also say, "This will be on the honor system, no enforcement will be undertaken."

How much tax will be collected?

Can the people who don't pay tax under that regime really be faulted for acting the way any normal, self-interested human being would act?

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Unreal! Listen to this serial liar try to spin the fact that she was determined to have ABUSED HER AUTHORITY in VIOLATION OF THE LAW.

Palin is despicable. What a nut job! She has no shame. What a nasty disgusting person.

How anybody with a sense of values, or who cares about America, could vote for her and Mc Cain is a total mystery.

Posted by: losthorizon10 | October 12, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin makes Nixon look like Walt Disney. Someone please throw her in jail where she belongs.

Posted by: GenuineRisk | October 12, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Deeva, that demonization of greed on Wall Street will not be funny if those nuts gain power. We'll have an American Terror - something we've so far managed to avoid.

It's not greed that wrecked this financial system (and possibly, this economy - it remains to be seen). Greed's a constant. Deregulation, an ideology which says that business knows better than government, wrecked it.

And I'd just as soon not see the fools who advocated deregulation and the ideology that business knows better than government frog-marched to jail by politicians.

It will be enough for me to see their advocates voted out of office. *THAT* is the American Way.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ghuntcustom | October 12, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Grant_x-LOL! :-D

It seems to me the Dimocrats have written their epilogue when they initiated the Troopergate proceedings! :-)

As I have mentioned in previous posts, I'll repeat this last time:

MUCH has CHANGED! Very quickly.

Not only since McCain won the Primary, but even since the Conventions.

Not only should Sarah quietly remove herself and allow Mitt Romney to step in(An Observation/Suggestion that probably has Libbies having conniption fits! ;~),
and not only should John McCain yield the Lead role to Mitt and assume the more relaxed role of the 51Rst Senator/White House RESIDING/ Vice President position;

Reality should DEMAND that most of the Republican contenders should also join in to make a very balanced Team of Executives ready for the next curve-balls coming!

Giuliani, Huckabee, Tancredo, Thompson, Alan Keyes and even Dr. No-Ron Paul, all are needed!

This Country is in a REAL MESS RIGHT NOW!

Hate to say it...

BUT,

I have BEEN Saying it for YEARS NOW!

When I operated my Swimming Pool Company, I was the Proverbial "Canary" Dying in the friggin Coal Mine!

It was at that time, I hooked unto the Mittster!

He, has the clues!

HE, is the RIGHT MAN, for the job!

Any Patriot(McCain?), would gladly clear the way for him to move in!

FYI-mittromney.com

GO THERE! Look at his "Issues", and Behold our best hope!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin doesn't know the difference between governing and dictating. She will do what suits her own interest and opinions and ignore everything else. She needs a good old smack down from the majority of Americans who know her to be the anti-Christ of democracy.

Posted by: TeddyRoosevelt | October 12, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

citing:
"The McCain-Palin campaign said that she and her family had good reason to try to get the trooper fired. "

Whoaw! Did they really say that?
I mean, how could the family been involve in this case if it is a state business or an incompetence from Monagan?
Basically the campaign is admitting she did that on regard of her sister custody fight, therefore, that she DID ubuse her powers on a PERSONAL profit.

Posted by: Big_O | October 12, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Face it folks, the Republicans have whined so loud so long that the mainstream media is back on its heels. If the Washington Post were the NFL, head-spearing would be legal.

It's a shame when sports leagues react more quickly than reputable newspapers to the coarsening of our culture.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

"Hey Tom22,

I'm all for Obama, but how do you suppose increasing Affirmative Action and ending grade inflation for white students, lowering financial aid for white students, and lowering student loans for white students fits into that scenario?"

These are all ideas that either him or members of his campaign have suggested. Obviously, you don't disagree with any of these ideas because you're an Obama supporter. If you do disagree with any of these idea I think you are a Racist and a Xenophobe.

But, all Obama supporters should BEWARE of the writings of Pat Buchanan:

"Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new "ladders of opportunity" for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for "deserving" white kids.

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago."

You MUST vote for Obama because President Barack Obama will do the following:

Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for White Students
Decrease Financial aid for White students
Decrease Student loans for White students
End White Privilege

You MUST vote for Obama!

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to go off topic but I just read an article detailing some new material in Palin's stump speech today. The theme is good guys versus bad guys.

“…we know who the bad guys are, OK… the bad guys are those who would support and sympathize with the terrorists…Those who sympathize and support those terrorists who would seek to destroy all that it is that we value, those are the bad guys, OK” …the “greedy and corrupt and arrogant” mavens of Wall Street and Washington who, she said, have pushed the nation’s economy to the brink.

It would have been easier just to do like Jules and say “Ezekiel 25:17 - The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Wow, so not only is Palin a lying, scummy, abuser of power, she also lacks sufficient reading comprehension skills to understand that the report specifically said she had violated Alaska's ethics laws?? Why am I not suprised? Jeezus, I'm starting to think this broad might actually be worse than Cheney. What are the odds that in the first election cycle after Cheney's disastrous run as Most Evil Vice President Ever, the Republicans would come up with something even more objectionable? This has got to be a sign of the apocalypse.

Posted by: ASinMoCo | October 12, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Well Grant, I doubt you realize it but by your own admission your post puts you in the group of Republicans with no semblance of intelligence. The content of your post only reinforces your point.

Posted by: swravino | October 12, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

The WaPo: guilty of journalistic malpractice as usual. Oh the article is ok, as far as it goes, but look at the headline on the web page: it precisely transmits, unchallenged, the lie that Sarah Palin is trying to tell.

Are reading comprehension levels so low at the WaPo that you didn't realize this?

This is why I don't read your crappy newspaper any more unless it is linked to on a blog whose author I trust to exercise good judgment.

Posted by: Monarchomach | October 12, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

The report specifically said she abused power. nuff said.

She held one electe office of minimalsignificance, and acted like trailer trash within months of taking office. Do any republicons honestly think this fool is qualified for office?

Posted by: John1263 | October 12, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

And it has been a long 15 minutes indeed.

I keep thinking about the potential for a Pres. Palin (given McCain's health and age)... Picture this, the First Dude (Todd) going over to the Attorney General or the FBI Director and demanding that they investigate an enemy of the family.

Wait, we've done that before... under Nixon!

Posted by: tarheeler | October 12, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

"Palin Talks to Alaska Reporters about Troopergate"

THAT'S your headline? Really? I mean, that's what you came up with? Jake Tapper put it more accurately: "Palin Makes Troopergate Assertions that Are Flatly False"

Posted by: istill | October 12, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Grant_x, stand by for an electoral tsunami. Folks like Gallup have not slept through the change in telecommunications.

You can't govern a democracy the way George W. Bush has governed this one for eight years, and not pay at the polls.

Thank God.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, but was Palin talking about a different report from the one I read? Or was she just practicing her Orwelsprach? The conclusion I read was that she had abused her authority, not that she was cleared of all wrongdoing.

Posted by: Hokuto | October 12, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Why does everybody hate the Palins?

God chose them to rule you, so shut up and eat whatever they shove in your brain.

Who do you think you are to challenge Sarah Palin, you who will never be as pretty and charismatic as she,

shoe who has been saved from witchcraft and the jaws of Jezebel!


ugga lugga bagga loo loo

(speaking in tongues, a new Republican craze that's sweeping the nation)

blooga looga out witchcraft out!


python spirits expell thyself from Sarah Palin's breasts!


Pentacostal salvation through genocide against Arabs!

VOTE McBush!!

Posted by: lichtme | October 12, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

In some ways, Palin is the perfect running mate. Because she has no ethical boundaries, she will do ANYTHING that the RNC strategists ask of her.

"Sarah, we need you to accuse Obama of being a foreign-born, christian-hating, terrorist sympathizer. Will do you this?" "You betcha!"

"Sarah, we need you to convince America that they should be afraid of a black man living in the White House. Can we count on you to sell this message?" "You're darn right you can!"

Posted by: labman57 | October 12, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I was confused there for a minute, I thought Sarah was aligned with the Alaska proper sentence society. Never mind.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

You know, Gov. Palin, you can put lipstick on that pitbull...but it's still a pitbull. You abused your power, you've been called on it, and yet you're trying to dress it up as something else. Sorry, no dice.

Posted by: lcaviness9 | October 12, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what to do with myself. I used to post here and there was a 1 to 1 ratio of Republicans to Democrats...which led to a lively discussion. Now, the Republicans with any semblance of intelligence have stopped posting, and those who are left only say backwards, racist things that I ignore. The ration is something like 1 Republican to 20 Democrats. Crazy.

Here's another thought, imagine if they could do the polls of people who also have cell phones? I don't know one person under 35 that has a land line...we all have cell phones. And I know a ton of people under 35.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

We haven't heard such pathetic lies since Bill Clinton. How many days until we never hear of her again?

Posted by: rusty3 | October 12, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm perfectly willing to grant the wishes of Sarah Palin's Alaska Independence Party if they promise to take her with them when they go.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

To borrow a famous line by Aaron Sorkin used in "The American President":

"We've got serious problems, and we need serious people.....this is a time for serious people, (Sarah), and your fifteen minutes are up."

Posted by: labman57 | October 12, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

How is abusing your office in a personal vendetta ruffling feather for the public good? How is being found to abuse your authority in an investigation headed by republicans an indication of a partisan witch hunt which ended up clearing her of any wrongdoing? Is she the idiot or does she just think we are all idiots?

Posted by: John1263 | October 12, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Spin and bluff are used to disguise Palin because she is an unattractive candidate.

She has no real knowledge of current affairs. She is dishonest. She has no competencies that one would require in a VP (or President) such as an intellectual background.

There are many people who are attracted by her simplistic notions. She finds solace in their company and their cheers.

I am a proud liberal and I want her to fade into oblivion.

McCain and Palin have shown that they rely on nastiness and slogans rather than well formed policies. McCain must acknowledge that his appointment of Palin was a huge mistake. If he cannot do that then he is foolish.

He may be foolish but I am not gullible.

Posted by: robertjames1 | October 12, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Palin is cherry-picking the findings in the report, embracing the one part that provides a positive political spin and totally ignoring or denouncing the portions that are politically damaging. So much for the open, honest, transparent reformer. Just more political spin.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Posted by: labman57 | October 12, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't the headline of this article be "Palin Lies About Findings of Troopergate Investigation"?

Posted by: dae7 | October 12, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between a rogue and a maverick other than perspective?

Posted by: liquefactionist | October 12, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Does palin think everyone is a stupid as she is? The ethics probe clearly said she abused her power as governor. The newspapers and news stations all reported that fact. So she thinks saying it isn't is enough to change anyone's minds? My GOd, what a dope. Read the report. They don';t recomend prosecuting her because the criminal case would be too difficult to prove definiteively, but do say she clearly broke ethics codes and abused her authority. And this is the only real job she ever had!!!!! She was in office for only a few months before she started to egregiously break the public trust for personal vendetta. I can't decide whether she is bush orcheney in a dress. She seems to combine the worst qualities of both in one disgusting lipstick smeared package.

Posted by: John1263 | October 12, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

You know, I'm going to refer to Barack Obama as Barack Hussein Obama all of the time. It's only a name, and Saddam shouldn't have ownership of it. Indeed, the name "Hussein" is from the Semitic word hasan, meaning "good" or "handsome."

That's a great name, and I for one hope Barack Hussein Obama dominates McNasty and the Pig.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin can't read English any better than she can speak it.

Posted by: ccatmoon | October 12, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I am ashamed to write her name but this Palin is a desperate,erratic,arrogant,irrational,nasty, hysterical,confused,irrelevant,dangerous, dishonest,unpatriotic,hypocrite,angry, uncivilized,inexperienced,slanderous, pathetic woman, when she opens her mouth,to talk spewing diahhrea, I vomit

Posted by: capskip | October 12, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

This election was a chance to show that we have finally outgrown our past.
An African American running for president would have been unthinkable for my generation of the fifties and sixties.
At that time people like Lester Maddox, and George Wallace were the only political voice in the south. Segregation here in Florida was a way of life. I did not attend grade school with African Americans. I do remember the hatred and violence of the sixties. Killings, beatings, fires and rioting left scars that still exist today. So when I saw the Palin rally in Clearwater, Florida on TV and heard what happened there it made me sick and angry that we still haven't learned.
For a pretty woman, Sarah Palin sure has one ugly mouth and she uses it to bring out that same ugliness in people who listen to her.
I wish she would go back home. She isn't the future. She just brings back bad memories.

Posted by: schmuckduck | October 12, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

SAINT---The,

Withdrawal is against Palin's religious beliefs. She should have just abstained.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Hey Tom22,

I'm all for Obama, but how do you suppose increasing Affirmative Action and ending grade inflation for white students, lowering financial aid for white students, and lowering student loans for white students fits into that scenario?

I fill out a FAFSA (Federal Application for Student Aid) every year and have yet to find the spot where I enter my race. You can go to www.FAFSA.com and look at the application if you want.

Please be realistic...Obama will help to open up racist mindsets to the fact that skin color does not denote one's character...he will not, however, be able to do the things you list. Those decisions will be up to us.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

OK, Sarah;

We'll keep this short and simple...

Repeat after me:

I...

"I"

Withdraw...

"Withdraw"

Myself...

"Myself"

Off the...

"Offa the"

Ticket!!!! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Palin again don't have it straight...
She is NOT cleared of firing...
As the Governor in Alaska, Governor has the power to fire - with or without cause...therefore - it cannot be black or white...

Posted by: Munki | October 12, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so here's the McCain campaign's idea of ethics: when you abuse power, you write your own investigation of yourself, then you hold a press conference to talk about how fair the investigation was and how wonderful it is that you have been cleared of wrongdoing.

Posted by: ScottinNC | October 12, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Have you noticed in the video that shows Palin that she has a black Secret Service man always at her side?

Too bad they are so darn honorable... can you imagine the stories he'd be able to tell? Phew!

I honestly feel sorry for the guy, can you imagine what goes through his head?

"And I HAVE to potentially take one for this racist nutcase?"

Posted by: ConcernedVoter2008 | October 12, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

She's pleased to be cleared? Apparently, her reading ability is as compromised as her speaking ability. Let's not let those dern facts get in the way!

Posted by: fmjk | October 12, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey Republicans (if there are any of you left), why does your party attract the racists in our country?

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

No, actually I two questions for Sarah Palin:

1. How does getting trooper Wooten fired increase your family's safety?

2. If Ayers is so dangerous, why are you not doing anything to get him fired from his job?

Posted by: jadada | October 12, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Did Alaskans know they were gettin' a co-governer?

Posted by: rue_dee | October 12, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

"When you're in a boat that's sinking, you bail - that is, scoop up water and toss it overboard. When you're panicked, you flail - sometimes scooping more water into the boat than was already there.

In any case, Tom22, keep bailin'....or flailin'....for Pailin.

Posted by: officermancuso"

I agree 100% and that's why EVERYONE should BEWARE of what Pat Buchanan is writing:

"The Obama media are well aware of Obama’s Achilles’ heel, his great vulnerability, the doubts about him that still exist in the public mind. That is why they are near hysterical about Palin’s ripping of Obama for “palling around” with “domestic terrorists” like William Ayres, the 1960s and 1970s Weatherman radical who conspired to bomb the Capitol and Pentagon and was quoted the morning of 9-11 as saying he wished he had set off more bombs.

The mainstream media call this irrelevant, as it was so long ago.

Yet, can one imagine how the media would have reacted had they learned that a GOP presidential nominee was introduced to politics and worked in harness with a KKK bomber of black churches in the 1960s, who was quoted the morning of Oklahoma City as saying he wished he had planted more bombs?
"

End Racism!

You MUST vote for Obama because President Barack Obama will do the following:

Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for White Students
Decrease Financial aid for White students
Decrease Student loans for White students
End White Privilege

You MUST vote for Obama!

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

"Rogue isn't a negative term"

Palin is clearly a fan of the picaresque.

Posted by: info42 | October 12, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere someone in this thread MUST have already (OK - I'm taking a break from this political obsession for the NLCS...) made the obvious observation that Sarah reads no better than she speaks.

Posted by: swravino | October 12, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Well now don't ya know that in the beauty pagent world she didn't do anything wrong!

Posted by: sfilutze | October 12, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

she did use her kids for cover at the hockey game.
monagan is gonna sue her in civil court and own her house.

Posted by: JudgeAlan | October 12, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

A dangerous politician, one with no moral compass, just a desire to have a title, with little thought to the code of ethics it entails. God help us all if the GOP keep her around, we will be begging for the good old days of Bush.

Posted by: AverageJane | October 12, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

From Branchflower's report, in its own language:

"For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) provides The legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."

Sara Palin is a liar, putting ambition above country.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Now we know why Sarah Palin couldn't tell Katie Couric the names of any magazines or newspapers she reads. Clearly she can't read.

If the Palins were so worried about Wooten's alleged threats to their family, why did she cut her security detail in half? (p. 45 Branchflower report). This whole thing is a demented feud by the Palin/Heath family. If I were Wooten, I'd sue them for stalking & harassment. Even the judge in the custody case told the Palins to stop trying to get him fired, because how would he pay child support then?

You can read the troopers' original report and see how nuts the Palins were. They even reported Wooten for allegedly trying to use his position to get out of a $5 fine for unsecured trash! A timeline and the original documents here:
http://apocalyptickiwi.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/the-case-for-the-impeachment-of-governor-sarah-palin/

Then ask yourself if she has the character and judgment to serve the public in the White House. Up here in Alaska, it's become clear she's not interested in serving anyone but herself. I look forward to signing the recall petition that will circulate as soon as she comes home.


Posted by: BlueDog1 | October 12, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

When you're in a boat that's sinking, you bail - that is, scoop up water and toss it overboard. When you're panicked, you flail - sometimes scooping more water into the boat than was already there.

In any case, Tom22, keep bailin'....or flailin'....for Pailin.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

There is a pattern here: Caribou Barbie and her ardent supporters can't admit that we are a nation of laws and we are bound by our laws and sometimes following the laws and going thru the proper channels doesn't give you the outcome you want, but you must respect the laws and work within them, not take the law into your own hands when you disagree.

I'm not arguing that the trooper didn't do what Palin said he did. I am not arguing that it is wrong.

All I am saying is that the state personnel board had already heard his case, they decided on a punishment (a week without pay), Trooper Wooten served out his punishment, and then nothing new had happened (no new violations on his part) so the commissioner's position was "he's already been punished, I have to follow what the personnel board, I can't go back now and impose additional punishment."

The personnel board apparently didn't think his actions warranted outright dismissal. Miz Palin and the First Dude disagreed and pushed to get him fired nonetheless. This is where the problem lies, this is where the ethics violations happened.

I for one can't wait for November 4th when we send the Pit Bull back to her beloved Wasilla.

Posted by: ScoutieDog | October 12, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Even more racist McCain monkey man video:

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-racist-rally-goers-pt-5-obama.html

The hits just keep on comin'.

Posted by: Snakeheader | October 12, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

toritto asked:

...ehh...so what's the market gonna do tomorrow??

Any predictions??

:-/


Well, I would have to bet that it will still reflect the bleak future this Country is facing with the current choices for our Executive Branch.

Which is currently soooo bleak, it has the entire World freaking out! :-(

However;

An announcement by Sarah Palin that she is withdrawing due to her realization she is not going to be as helpful as she hoped,

and McCain filling the Space with a Business and Economics Genius/ Venture Capitalist/ Executive named Mitt Romney...

Que the Choir...


"Hallelujah"!

"HAAALLEEELUUUJAAAHHH"!

Markets would respond! ;~)


Ohhhh, BTW-Nice theft of my routine there Southwest Airlines Promo-Guy! Not!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a dose of BS. Make that overdose.

She should have embraced her error on ethics to make her seem human. What she did is lie.

Posted by: Maddogg | October 12, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

DwightDFCollins,

It wouldn't surprise me if you were -that one- at the rally yelling "Off with his head!"

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

No accountability:

to be expected from Republicains.

GOP: the party that enslaved your children.

(Palin is sooo hot!)

Posted by: lichtme | October 12, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

I strongly believe that this specimen Palin is mentally screwd up

Posted by: capskip | October 12, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Okay, Sarah, we understand: the finding that you violated state ethics law means you didn't actually violate state ethics law. Karl Rove taught you that, right?

Now please, please, puhhh-leeaase go away.

Posted by: yogi11 | October 12, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

"Tom22, I've done my share of reading among the advocates of the "lost cause", including all of Douglas Southall Freeman's *Lee's Lieutenants*, and I have found much there to admire.

I'm happy to say plainly that I would never object to a display of honor for the war dead at a Confederate cemetery.

Posted by: officermancuso"

I still can't believe you ADMIRE the CONFEDERACY? What kind of person are you? I don't even like to repeat the rantings of racists and xenophobes. I do it so people will BEWARE of what Pat Buchanan is writing:

"The Obama media are well aware of Obama’s Achilles’ heel, his great vulnerability, the doubts about him that still exist in the public mind. That is why they are near hysterical about Palin’s ripping of Obama for “palling around” with “domestic terrorists” like William Ayres, the 1960s and 1970s Weatherman radical who conspired to bomb the Capitol and Pentagon and was quoted the morning of 9-11 as saying he wished he had set off more bombs.

The mainstream media call this irrelevant, as it was so long ago.

Yet, can one imagine how the media would have reacted had they learned that a GOP presidential nominee was introduced to politics and worked in harness with a KKK bomber of black churches in the 1960s, who was quoted the morning of Oklahoma City as saying he wished he had planted more bombs?"

Say NO to racism!

You MUST vote for Obama because President Barack Obama will do the following:

Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for White Students
Decrease Financial aid for White students
Decrease Student loans for White students
End White Privilege

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

toritto asked:

...ehh...so what's the market gonna do tomorrow??

Any predictions??

:-)

-------------------------------

It will fluctuate. I heard it from Sarah Palin, who's rapidly failin'.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

It was fun while it lasted,

But,

It has lasted too long! :-(

We have been allowed to once again witness the hypocritical reactions of the Dimocrats-AGAIN, flagrantly exorcising Sexism.

We have seen McCain steal the light off O'Bomba.

But MOSTLY, we have seen a RADICAL shift on the priorities involved.

Sarah Palin should quietly remove herself from the Ticket-at least as the vice Presidential Contender.

THAT, would then free Jet-Jockey Johnny to bring on Economics Genius Mitt Romney, and many Conservatives who support him, as well as Michigan, Colorado, Nevada, possibly New Mexico, and further strengthen his position in many Conservative States such as Texas!

Sarah, PLEASE do the right thing.

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

A baseless attack on a good God-fearing Christian mother and wife by Afro American Muslim terrorists who would destroy our Christian nation by stealing this election for Barack Husein Osama.

Posted by: DwightDFCollins | October 12, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse


"Tom22, I've done my share of reading among the advocates of the "lost cause", including all of Douglas Southall Freeman's *Lee's Lieutenants*, and I have found much there to admire.

I'm happy to say plainly that I would never object to a display of honor for the war dead at a Confederate cemetery.

Posted by: officermancuso"

You admire the CONFEDERACY? I think it's pretty obvious YOU are a racist and are practicing the SOFT BIGOTRY of low expectations of blacks. It's people like you that we still live in a RACIST society.

I recommend that all the Obama supporters BEWARE of stuff being written by Officer Mancuso and Pat Buchanan:
"As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago."

Say NO to racism!

You MUST vote for Obama because President Barack Obama will do the following:

Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for White Students
Decrease Financial aid for White students
Decrease Student loans for White students
End White Privilege

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice that Sarah Palin brought her kids on the ice in Philly to drop the first puck? My assumption? She knew the crowd might not be the friendliest, but thought the boos would be subdued if the kids went out with her.

The woman will do anything to further her political career -- including shamelessly exploiting her own kids.

She is absolutely revolting.

Posted by: trace1 | October 12, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

ARE THE McCAIN-PALIN CROWD AGITATORS THE SAME STORMTROOPERS WHO DO THIS:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 12, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Palin said she was "pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there." Notice she didn't mention the finding of "abuse of power" which is a kind of unethical activity.

Cheney with lipstick.

Posted by: coloradodog | October 12, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

To see real videos of real women discussing their reactions to Sarah Palin & the misuse of gender issues in this year's presidential race, please take a look at the following blog:

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Does this mean that other women are "fake" women?

Just thought I'd ask.

Posted by: progressiveliberal | October 12, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

...ehh...so what's the market gonna do tomorrow??

Any predictions??

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Question I haven't seen anyone ask Palin: how would getting trooper Wooten fired from his job make him less dangerous to her and her family?

Posted by: jadada | October 12, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

God Bless Sarah Palin! Could you imagine if McCain had picked someone QUALIFIED? Like Romney? Good Lord, he'd be talking about how to fix the economy! And making SENSE! They might even have a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Thank God for the intolerance of Republicans; it may lead to persecution from time to time, but it also renders them impotent once the public has reached a boiling point because they can't see past non-issues, like religious affiliation, to make rational decisions.

Posted by: Terrorfied | October 12, 2008 8:15 PM | Report abuse

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/paranoid-style-meets-issue-of-race-in.html

Sunday, October 12, 2008
The Paranoid Style Meets The Issue of Race In American Politics

Richard Hofstadter's seminal article "The Paranoid Style In American Politics" portrayed, for the first time with widespread impact, the insular and delusional suspiciousness that characterizes much of the "critique", if it can be called that, of the far right and, at times, of the extreme left.

Standing just one notch away from pure delusion--and often not even hewing that distance--and embracing those whose functionality--such as it may be--is supported by and compels the repetition of these fantasies, we see this style in every electoral cycle, manifesting itself, remarkably anew, in new minds, with the same characteristic conspiratorial thinking--the grasping of an ambiguous, or equally likely, unresearched but conspiratorial-sounding detail or name--into a grand plan, foggy in specifics but surely--as it has assumed its premise--secretly lurching towards an all powerful hegemony.

As always, they give people too much credit. As always, they are among the bitter powerless, whose manifest lack of explanation for that lack of power turns itself into a bitter projection--if they can't have it, their secret masters must, and so on. It gives them a path to power through projection--they see the secret truth, and gain power through it's proclamation--thus "None Dare Call It Conspiracy", thus the "Clinton Chronicles", thus "9/11 Truth", etc. etc.

Each election cycle, the impulse forces itself to burgeon anew, straining to fit facts to its preexisting need, straining to grow into the dark.

Now--it becomes interesting.

Here--we have a candidate whose power combines with the fact that he is the first of a long oppressed minority to rise to this position. How, we might ask, will this impulse find a way to strain itself upwards towards conspiratorial theories of all embracing power? A challenge to the force of the delusional impulse.

In the last few weeks, we have been seeing the development of this narrative.

Touch him with the brush of radicalism--despite the fact that Obama's adult life story has been one of consensus-building and unifying--a clear and deliberate move towards the shared need, and away from the radical fringe. The key has been to forge the conspiratorial, paranoid impulse with racial fears, to create the combined message: You don't know who he really is.

As in: "Who really is Barack Obama?"

This lights the torch to the paranoid style in full force, turning it upon ill-formed objects--Bill Ayers, ACORN, that by their mere sound and invocation, can be whipped by this eternal historical force into a storm of hatred. To those prone to such thinking, these become absolute evidence, touchstones, the words they have been waiting for.

For the conspiratorialist, the obvious and central characteristic of Obama's personality--the move to unify, which is inherent in his speech, actions and development, is--as is so often the case in this style--evidence of its opposite. Of course, if he were in fact a radically divisive figure, this would also serve as evidence of the same "radical" characteristic. That's the paranoid style--either it's there, or it's masterfully hidden: Heads I win, tails you lose (at least until medicated).

You likely have seen this kind of thinking developing on the outer edges of the message boards and twittering over recent months.

However, it was only with the cementing of the McCain-Palin team that the style has begun to grow into its fuller portrayal. Each of the two essential elements of the admixture is used to reinforce the other--"Radicalism"--Bill Ayers, ACORN--provides license, justification and cover to those who experience a deeper prejudice, and that very prejudice leads those who experience it to draw in unexamined, tangential "evidence" to prove to themselves or others his inauthenticity or "radicalism."

McCain, and to a greater extent Palin, have used this admixture at rallies to attempt to create some form of enthusiasm in the electorate. It has proven to be a volatile mixture, this new alloy of the paranoid style, and, in their efforts to provide some spark to a moribund campaign, they have been unable to keep this lightning in the bottle.

The remarkable and horrifying shouts we have heard over the past weeks did not originate with this campaign--but they were liberated by it, allowing this raw and stark version of the paranoid style to be unleashed by and feed off of these insinuations. We have seen this kind of visceral unleashing of the paranoid style, driven by fear and the impulsive, momentary, compensatory power of stereotypic hatred before, in other nations. Not here, and not in this way.

There are limits to winning--and losing--ugly. And there are ways to fan and contain the paranoid style. I suspect that Plain believes that she is speaking the plain truth to these audiences--and that there is a plain truth to be spoken, and that she already knows what it is--and no more.

It is John McCain's responsibility to put this darker manifestation of a dangerous and unnecessary dybbyk back in the bottle. I can see he understands what has been released--and perhaps would wish to retain just those parts that could meet his ambitions, without its consequent furies.

Just as you would rather lose an election than lose a war, John--I believe that you would rather lose an election than to unleash, justify, imprint and allow this distorted vision on this society. It was not you, it is not you, and it should not be you or us. Consider it your newest, and your best, call to courage.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/paranoid-style-meets-issue-of-race-in.html

Posted by: robthewsoncamb | October 12, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

get real folks. everyone who has ever worked in a public environment knows that if you are disciplined, the case is over, and no one, not even the governor, can get it reopened because they don't like the punishment. just like any court and sentence by a judge. it's over.

whatever you think of Wooten and what he did, the investigation ended, and the discipline was imposed. The Palins knew that, and knew there was no proper way to have any more discipline imposed unless Wooten did something else. so they badgered whoever they could find, improperly and unethically, to get something they knew they couldn't get any other way. Monegan couldn't properly do anything else to Wooten, but the Palins didn't care. If Monegan wasn't willing to trump something up and do their bidding, well, we'll show him.

Palin is all over the map. It's a partisan (10 republican 4 dem - unanimous is partisan?) withchunt (wasn't she protected from witchcraft by her pastor?) but it cleared her anyway (even though it didn't?). its a joke.

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 12, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin was lawfully examined by the Alaska state legislature and found in violation of Alaskan state law. Wooten was lawfully examined and penalized for his behavior.
Palin lawfully dismissed Monegan. It seems the only person so far who thinks she is above the law is Palin herself.
One stonewalling Vice President who thinks he is above the law is enough.
No more.

Posted by: seemstome | October 12, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Funny,

isn't 'rogue' just another word for 'maverick'?

Posted by: edwardb1 | October 12, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

The New York Times, October 15, 1994
Remains of Alaska Separatist Are Identified
...............................................................................
The blue tarp and duct tape in which the remains were wrapped, officials said, matched a description given by a convicted thief, Manfred West, who confessed last summer that he had killed Mr. Vogler in a plastic-explosives sale gone bad and had then buried him.
...............................................................................

Here are some choice Joe Vogler quotes:

"The fires of h-ll are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their d-mn flag."

"My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her d-mned institutions."

"Alaska First! Alaska Always!" -- motto of the Alaskan Independence Party

Note: Todd Palin joined the AIP one year after the story about Vogler's murder while buying plastic explosives appeared in the New York Times.

Country First? You betcha!

Posted by: wunderwood | October 12, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: GeorgePS | October 12, 2008 7:25 PM |

Actually, go read the entire report. Palin herself was pressuring about the trooper. Everybody who called / spoke said how the Palins (plural) were pressuring them. Isn't it convenient that Mrs. Palin had nothing to say, refused to answer questions about her motives? Her activities? I wonder why she couldn't use the regular government email and instead resorted to Yahoo mail with her employees. . .

Yet this same hypocrite is still accusing Obama of "hiding something" after he has already answered the questions.

Posted by: progressiveliberal | October 12, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Even more racist McCain monkey man video:

http://liesliesmorelies.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-racist-rally-goers-pt-5-obama.html

The hits just keep on comin'.

Posted by: Snakeheader | October 12, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Traitor Palin, McCaine and the "Good Ole Boys" are havin a partay! Just like the good ole days. Lynch an uppity minority and thump their bibles, Yee Haw!

Posted by: tniederberger | October 12, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

There is an interesting parallel between the Israeli Cabinet getting rid of Ariel Sharon at the time of the Sabra and Shatilla massacres by the Christian Falange Arabs and Palin getting rid of Trooper Wooten. According to Monegan in a statement to an Alaska paper, and to the investigators, Palin never asked him directly to fire Wooten. Even before she was Governor, when she complained to Julia Grimes, Wooten's supervisor, my understanding is that she told Grimes she didn't want him fired so he could continue to earn money and pay alimony to her sister and support her nephew. But for the purposes of this comment, I am going to assume she did want to get him fired.

To my understanding, Ariel Sharon was found responsible for the Sabra and Shatil massacres committed by the Lebanese Christian Falange after their President was murdered by Muslims, under the doctrine of "respondeat superior" The labor cabinet ministers, needing to find someone guilty to assuage world opinion, selected the lone Likud member because as Minister of Defense he would be responsible under that doctrine, even though he did not select the Falange to perform the duty of rooting out the terrorist fighters in those camps, and may not even have had personal knowledge that the Falange were selected for that purpose.

Sarah Palin was, in finding No. 2 of the Branchflower report found by Branchflower to have acted lawfully in firing Commissioner Monagan, "... Governor Palin's firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads." But in Finding No. 1, he found she had violated an Alaska ethics statute because her family and aides put pressure on the Commissioner to fire what they perceived to be a rogue State trooper who had threatened to kill Palins father.

As Governor of Alaska, was not Sarah Palin responsible for the actions of rogue employees of Alaska's state troopers? There is undisputed testimony that Wooten made drunken death threats against Palin's father while armed. Should someone such as Sharon or Palin take steps to eliminate a serious risk, by removing it, be subject to criticism for unethical bias on the part of Sharon if he had canceled the use of the Falange in the camps, or Palin of unethical acts, if she removed or even attempted to remove someone perceived as a rogue state trooper directly or through others? Suppose while she was Governor, Wooten had killed someone or even several people. Would she have had responsibility under the doctrine of respondeat superior for not having made an effort to get rid of him? Therefore, it seems to me, that any such communications are privileged if they are only made to those who can effect his termination.

That is not my only difficulty with the report.

In some jurisdictions, an "accessory" is distinguished from an "accomplice"; the latter normally is present at the crime and participates in some way. An accessory must generally have knowledge that a crime is being, or will be committed. A person with such knowledge may become an accessory simply by failing to report the crime to proper authority.

Let us assume that Wooten's undisputed drunken death threats to kill Sarah Palin's father while Wooten was carrying a gun, were actually carried out. Would the failure of someone such as Todd Palin who knew of them in advance of the murder to report them to proper authorities make him an accessory before the fact? Was Monagan the proper person to receive those reports? If so, are such reports made to Monagan privileged? Neither this legal issue nor the legal question of respondeat superior and privileges flowing from it is addressed in the Alaska legislative report.

Branchflower's finding number 2 states: "... Governor Palin's firing of Commissioner Monegan was a proper and lawful exercise of her constitutional and statutory authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads.

I would greatly doubt that an action in slander would be successful based on Todd Palin's communications to Commission Monaghan. Why should anyone believe that Sarah Palin is guilty of violating an Alaska ethics law based on privileged communications? Nonetheless Branchflower found such a violation in his finding No. 1?


Posted by: webrand | October 12, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Tom22, I've done my share of reading among the advocates of the "lost cause", including all of Douglas Southall Freeman's *Lee's Lieutenants*, and I have found much there to admire.

I'm happy to say plainly that I would never object to a display of honor for the war dead at a Confederate cemetery. Those brave men, many of whom ended up giving the last full measure of devotion with bare feet, having marched the shoes off their feet and some having charged up that famous hill of no hope at Gettysburg, could teach any American a thing or two about courage and devotion to duty.

Surely every citizen of the USA should be taught the common Confederate soldier's answer to the question, "Why do you fight?" which was, "because you're here" (referring to the presence of Union armies in the south), made famous by Shelby Foote in Ken Burns' *The Civil War*. That's not *all* they should be taught, be they should be enabled to understand the Confederate infantryman's point of view.

It would do no harm, additionally, to let every US citizen know that Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson, before the war, deliberately and repeatedly violated the laws of Virginia by teaching black children to read in a Presbyterian Sunday school.

Now let me speak of another man.

On March 4, 1861, he said, "We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."

And exactly four years later, that same man said "Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.'"

Examine you conscience.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Time for the truth. The city of Wasalia never charged anyone for a rape kit. It was not till Sarah Palin became Governor that it the State passed legislation where they would pay for the kits.
Until the legislation passed the cost of the rapes kits was passed through the victims hospitalization. No municipality ever charged the victim.
I am amazed by the total fabrications being written by in these comments.
Do you represent a candidate, Barack Obama, so weak and so undeserving of being President that you have to lie for him?
I find this to be bizarre.
If that had been my sister I would have moved heaven and earth to have that fat pig Wooten fired. Are you people on this making the argument that he deserves to keep his job? You are in favor of 6'3", 250 pound, cops abusing their spouses and 10 year old children? Is that what you people are trying to say?
I find this entire argument to be bizarre. This guy deserves to be fired. Monegan was a disaster as a subordinate. He was going behind the governor's back with Hollis French who by the way wants to run for Governor and I hope he does. He will get his clock cleaned by Palin.
It is a simple question are you in favor of fat, drunken cops abusing their spouses and children?
If so then congratulations you are a died in the wool Barack Obama supporter.

Posted by: jdripper07 | October 12, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Note to all those who have never worked for a government agency. The ex-brother-in-laws threats are RECORDED! The committee report says they chose not to listen to the reports, "because they are prejudical." So the committee can ignore the law, threatening any person is a crime, so pressuring to fire is much less than they could have done by having FEDERAL charges filed for threats against the a public officials family.

And by the way the report says, "she abused her power by allowing OTHERS to pressure the director of Public Safety" who chose not to fire an employee who had broken the law. Therefore his firing was justified, but pressuring him to fire the law breaker is a breach of ethics?

As a matter of fact the reason she didn't break any laws is that as the Govenor she had the right to fire him for no reason, much less for failure to uphold the law by pressing charges against a trooper who threatend the state's first family. So he can cry all he wants, and the democrat who ran the investigation can explain why breaking the law by committing abuse of authority, (failure to act is a crime when a viable threat is recorded!), is OK for him even though the report admits that the threats were vialble.

By the way I'm not a supporter of any candidate, I am a supporter of the law and am tired of "SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT" pattersn which also fall under another federal offense called "prejudical enforcement" which just means that the laws aren't being enforced equally.

Posted by: bldgcode1 | October 12, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

The Trooper used a Taser on his Step-son!?
Folks, what is the Confusion here?
Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 5:09 PM

Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here. This whole thing of the taser used on Wooten's step-son is blown way out of proportion. It wasn't done out of anger or with a mean spirit. Was it stupid to do, absolutely yes. But anyone that's had a young boy... nagging, nagging, nagging... to see what the taser is like, would understand how a dad might weaken and stupidly decide to go along with the kid. Wooten set it as low as possible and cushioned the kid with pillows. The kid was pleased as punch and laughed about it afterwards. The family, who was there, also thought it was a kick. Very easy to take a story like that and twist it into Wooten being some kind of monster. Again, I'll say it was really dumb. Like succumbing to the nagging of your kid and letting him drive the tractor when you know he shouldn't because he can barely see over the steering wheel... but it doesn't make Wooten the world's worst father by any means. If he had used it in anger to punish the kid... that would be a whole different story. But that wasn't the case.

Posted by: DogBitez | October 12, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

"I thought the "real" victim was the kid who got 25,000 Volts put in him by his step-dad."

And here, silly me, I thought the "real" victim was Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol, who was assulted by an adult male and inpregnanted.

Is this adult male in jail for improper relationships with a child? Nope. Not only free, but invited to prance about the stage with the Palin family as if this is normal behavior and a fine example of Republican values.

Just goes to show you can put lipstick on a pig but you can't take them out in public.

Posted by: haymarketbill | October 12, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who can excuse an association with Rev. Wright and Ayers.. (I know.. I know.. NObama was only 8.. But I could hang out with serial killer who only killed people when I was 8 and people would be disgusted with me) is an absolute moron. And you go on an stand up when Palin is connected to firing a guy who tasers kids. Typical liberal backwards thought process. No sense at all. One mission. Win at the cost of America as we knew it. Wealthy and on top. Destruction of our country is complete if you place that liar and racist in office.

Posted by: washpostislibscum | October 12, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Everyone should BEWARE of what Pat Buchanan is writing:
"The Obama media are well aware of Obama’s Achilles’ heel, his great vulnerability, the doubts about him that still exist in the public mind. That is why they are near hysterical about Palin’s ripping of Obama for “palling around” with “domestic terrorists” like William Ayres, the 1960s and 1970s Weatherman radical who conspired to bomb the Capitol and Pentagon and was quoted the morning of 9-11 as saying he wished he had set off more bombs.

The mainstream media call this irrelevant, as it was so long ago.

Yet, can one imagine how the media would have reacted had they learned that a GOP presidential nominee was introduced to politics and worked in harness with a KKK bomber of black churches in the 1960s, who was quoted the morning of Oklahoma City as saying he wished he had planted more bombs?"

You MUST vote for Obama because President Barack H. Obama will do the following:

Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for White Students
Decrease Financial aid for White students
Decrease Student loans for White students
End White Privilege

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

to tom 22: Funny you should mention Hitler Youth. I actually know a member named herb hiner and he is a McCain voter.

Posted by: seemstome | October 12, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I guess she thinks being found guilty of a violation Alaska State Ethics standards for abuse of her political power while in office is being "cleared". More Palin double talk - but we are getting used to it. The take home message is that John McCain did not vet her and showed poor judgment in choosing her as his running mate despite the fact that the rabid right love her.

Posted by: jeffl240 | October 12, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

He tasered a child, you pinko commie liberals aren't paying attention to the fact he tasered a child - did I tell you he tasered a child? how can you support someone who tasered a child?

Doesn't it strike anyone else as weird that the Alaskan authorities did not think that this alleged case of child abuse by Wooten was either serious enough, or true enough, to pursue any civil or criminal action?

Wooten may, or may not be, a slug. But, he is entitled to due process under the law, and privacy and confidentiality of his personal records. Palin and her clan violated both. My mom taught me that two wrongs don't make a right - whatever Wooten does or did, does not excuse the Palin family for their own violations of law and ethics.

Posted by: rwbird | October 12, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

My biggest issue with Troopergate is that Palin is trying to change the subject to her lowlife ex-brother-in-law Wooten. He sounds like a punk and if he hurt my sister like that, I wouldn't try to get him fired....I'd go after him with a baseball bat. But she didn't fire him did she? She fired his boss. And what about Wooten? He got to keep his job. So not only did she fire the wrong guy, she wasn't very effective about getting rid of the right guy.

And on a side note, while I admire her vigilant defense of her sister, I could only wish that she were so active on behalf of all victims in Alaska instead of only those related to her. Alaska has one of the highest rates of sexual assault and domestic violence against women in the country. Not only that, but while she was mayor, the town charged victims of rape for their rape kits. Meanwhile, Commissioner of Public Safety Walter Monegan, whom she fired, was actually pro-active about reducing violence against all Alaskan women...not just the ones related to the Governor.

Posted by: msmarsh | October 12, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

"Well, if you take a step back, you'll notice that Mark Wooten is not the primary victim here.

The victims in this mess are all the state employees,

Posted by: CalFan"

I thought the "real" victim was the kid who got 25,000 Volts put in him by his step-dad. But, of course, Obama Zombies are sort of like Hitler Youth in that they can see no wrong in their PERFECT LEADER. Anything they can do to discredit those that don't agree with their Messiah they will attack regardless of the ethics. The Obama Zombie rallies remind me of Hitler Youth Weimar rallies where a bunch of people who don't think about "BOTH SIDES" of an issue becauase they KNOW they are right. The Obama Zombie Creed: Ignorance is Bliss.

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin needs to pay for both her abuse of power and her current lie that she did no wrong. Ethics is a serious issue in my book. The media is giving her a pss, it seems.

Posted by: wgbarbour1 | October 12, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

So she'll just pretend that the report's "FINDING NUMBER ONE", wherein it states that Palin abused her power by violating the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, just doesn't exist. Well, word up, Sarah. The media and the voters can read and the words are clearly there. You were NOT exonerated. You are not Queen of Alaska, as you apparently think you are.

What's really disturbing is that Palin has offered no apology to the Alaskan people. "Gee, my bad... didn't mean to give any appearance of unethical behavior..." She could then go on to defend her actions, if she wanted. An apology for a perceived (in her mind) violation seems to be what an honorable politician would do. Or at least, what a politician would do in order to save their career. But, this delusional denial just keeps us all talking about it... doesn't she realize that?

Posted by: DogBitez | October 12, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Why is this story buried in The Trail???? An Official report of the Alaskan Legislature's bipartisan investigation states that she broke ethical rules and abused her trust and she looks in the camera and claims vindication? And you don't have that on the front page? McCain and Palin have perfected the Rovian tactic; do whatever you want and lie about it ... claim you never did it and you won't get caught. Oh my God. We are in big trouble if this pair of serial liars gets elected. Amazing .... and see what their attitudes are doing to their supporters ... they've got them worked into a frenzy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wmAZUAMG8I

Posted by: Omyobama | October 12, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

this republican campaign reminds me of the wizard of oz , when the curtain falls and we see the wizard¨s true identity .the voters will play the part of dorothy,palin the wicked witch and mc cain of course as the wizard , a litle man pretending to be so much more .
whats most unnerving is that what we see now might be representative of whats been happening for a long time in u s politics , but courtesy of the internet, the general public is getting a glimpse backstage.
how could civilized people consider electing such petty, mean spirited puppets of industry as our leaders .

Posted by: wofat | October 12, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Sarah and Todd Palin worked relentlessly to get their ex-brother-in-law, Mark Wooten, fired from his job because of a personal dispute with him. That turns out to be a violation of Alaska ethics law. You don't get to use your position as governor to settle personal vendettas.

But some say, Mark Wooten is a bad person...why protect him?

Well, if you take a step back, you'll notice that Mark Wooten is not the primary victim here.

The victims in this mess are all the state employees, including Walt Monegan, who were pressured and harassed by the governor and her husband over something they had not business meddling in. Those folks were repeatedly asked, by someone with power over them, to do illegal and unethical things. Or else.

That's the ethical violation. That the Palins cannot see it, well, that's the problem.

Posted by: CalFan | October 12, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Deeva, I'd wink, but I wouldn't want to leave Rich Lowry all starry-eyes when he's got work to do ;)

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

The Trooper used a Taser on his Step-son!?

Folks, what is the Confusion here?

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 5:09 PM

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If indeed that is true, then it is subject to prosecution in a court of law. No one is above the law. At least, that is what the constitution says. Why do you think Palin or you are anyone else is above the law. The courts are there for a reason, to avoid lynch mobs. This is not a liberal or conservative issue. It is a fundamental issue under the American constitution. Get with the program or you will be in trouble with the law. Just as Palin is now. If she thinks she can just interpret her way out of it, she is amiss. Even Dick Cheney is not above the law and he will, in due course, pay a price for his obstinacy. He is in a position where, at the moment he is able to abuse his power.

Another point, the guy still has his job. She just fired his boss in spite, because she does not have the moral or legal right to fire the trooper. Nor should she have. She is not the law enforcement agency. And, she has a huge conflict of interest in the whole thing. This was clearly a family vendetta against the man, run from the Governor's office. That is shameful and dead wrong.

Posted by: paulstewart | October 12, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

To see real videos of real women discussing their reactions to Sarah Palin & the misuse of gender issues in this year's presidential race, please take a look at the following blog:
www.speakoutonpalin.blogspot.com

Posted by: WomenSpeakOutOnPalin | October 12, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

EVERYONE needs to read this and beware about some of the stuff Pat Buchanan is writing:
""Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks - with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?"

VOTE for Barack Obama!
DON'T listen to the Xenophobes and Racists!

You SHOULD vote for Obama because President Barack Obama will do the following:

Increase financial aid to minority and foreign students
Increase job opportunities for minority and foreign students
Increase scholarships for minority and foreign students
Allow more foreign students into the U.S.
Increase Affirmative Action
Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
End Grade Inflation for Caucasian Students
Decrease Financial aid for Caucasian students
Decrease Student loans for Caucasian students
End White Privilege

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

perlgurl wrote, "It’s interesting that Sarah Palin responds to the ethics violation by saying she did not benefit financially, so she didn’t violate the law."

That's an essential point. Nixon didn't benefit financially when he ordered people to burglarize Daniel Ellsburg's psychiatrist, or when he covered up his subordinate's role in breaking in to the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee during his 1972 race against McGovern.

I don't know of anyone who thinks this exonerates Nixon of charges that he abused his high office.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

if she can´t talk why should she be expected to read?

Posted by: wofat | October 12, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm an Alaskan educator, who has traditionally tended to vote Republican. I am sickened that the McCain Camp is trying to make it look like Obama supporters started the "Troopergate" investigation. What most outside of Alaska don't know is this began months before her nomination. Sarah Palin, herself invited the inquiry and stated she would fully cooperate in it.

While I don't think her reasons for firing Monegan were wrong, her lying about it certainlly was. What does that say about how she handles herself underpressure? When confronted with and unconfortable situation, she runs, lies and hides. That is not the leadership I was hoping for from her. Bottom line. Any lie, big or small is unethical.

Her abuse of power in this situation pales in comparison to her collective history as mayor and governor. She has a record of firing anyone who doesn't side with her (not just Monegan), actually trying to ban books. She is a tyrant.

Her energy experience is questionable at best here in Alaska as well. Many feel her push for the current gas pipeline deal has pigeon holed us and cut us off at the knees as far as negotiation power.

Finally, her and McCain's mudslinging tactics are unquestionably disgusting. Their dangerous, warped sense of reality is certainly not what America needs or wants. Ethics is surely not their strong suit. Americans and Alaskans are tired of the cut throat political tactics. They want to hear about realy policy and strategie for change. Obama clearly sticks to the higher ground and promotes sound leadership with real, powerful ideas.

Posted by: lotushcl | October 12, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm an Alaskan educator, who has traditionally tended to vote Republican. I am sickened that the McCain Camp is trying to make it look like Obama supporters started the "Troopergate" investigation. What most outside of Alaska don't know is this began months before her nomination. Sarah Palin, herself invited the inquiry and stated she would fully cooperate in it.

While I don't think her reasons for firing Monegan were wrong, her lying about it certainlly was. What does that say about how she handles herself underpressure? When confronted with and unconfortable situation, she runs, lies and hides. That is not the leadership I was hoping for from her. Bottom line. Any lie, big or small is unethical.

Her abuse of power in this situation pales in comparison to her collective history as mayor and governor. She has a record of firing anyone who doesn't side with her (not just Monegan), actually trying to ban books. She is a tyrant.

Her energy experience is questionable at best here in Alaska as well. Many feel her push for the current gas pipeline deal has pigeon holed us and cut us off at the knees as far as negotiation power.

Finally, her and McCain's mudslinging tactics are unquestionably disgusting. Their dangerous, warped sense of reality is certainly not what America needs or wants. Ethics is surely not their strong suit. Americans and Alaskans are tired of the cut throat political tactics. They want to hear about realy policy and strategie for change. Obama clearly sticks to the higher ground and promotes sound leadership with real, powerful ideas.

Posted by: lotushcl | October 12, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm concerned that so many of you would defend a police officer that would taser any child! Police brutality should never be accepted and that officer should have been canned from the beginning. I can't believe they just let him go for 5 whole days! I would be scared of him too. If there was any one in my business that did that I'd fire him too. I think Palin had every right to ask for this man's firing. Next time he just might kill someone in anger. Shame on all of you for supporting someone like this.

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The simple fact of the matter is that very few people here are supporting Wooten. I think you will find, if you read, that a lot of the charges made against him by the Palin-McCann clan were part of the custody dispute, and in numerous instances the wife and her family were directly or indirectly involved in Wooten's wrongdoing. Be that as it may, however, Wooten was disciplined for his shortcomings before the Palin entourage arrived at the governor's mansion.

None of your diatribe takes away from the key Troopergate issues:

1) Palin abused her power by conducting and condoning a personal vendetta against Wooten using Alaskan governmental power.

2) Palin lied about contacts between her "people" and the public safety department's people regarding Wooten.

3) Palin lied about the findings of the commission.

Actions speak louder than words.

Posted by: progressiveliberal | October 12, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I have a question: the day before the report was released, I read in the media that Todd Palin had signed an affidavit saying it was HE ALONE that had acted, that his wife had nothing to do with it. Meanwhile, she stayed silent and didn't deny this. In other words, both lied. Isn't that kind of unethical?

Posted by: Brooklyn3 | October 12, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Troopergate:
One does need higher math to see through Palin's elegant verbiage.

She & First Gentleman Dude husband badger the undesired State Trooper's superior (calls, letters, innuendo & emails) to carry out his "duty" & forthwith fire the Palin clan's discredited Mr. Wooten - ironically, once himself part of the Palin clan, as her sister's once husband of good standing. However, with each new attempt to get Wooten fired finally, temperature rising in the frustated Palin clan.

If it's not illegal to undermine a trooper's standing in order to get him fired, then, voilà, a new definition of responsible governance.

These numerous clan Palin attempts to get State Trooper Wooten fired are documented from various sources; nonetheless, Palin blatantly states she never "interfered" - the more outrageous a denial, the more it is to be believed?

No wonder politicians of every couleur (even female politicians) are held in the lowest of all esteem. Seems even mavericks know how to twist unpleasant truth.

Posted by: hchiba | October 12, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

(CNN) – Conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks, who has expressed doubts about Sarah Palin’s readiness to serve as vice president, said this week the Alaska governor “represents a fatal cancer to the Republican Party.”
Brooks praised Palin’s debate performance and called her a natural political talent, but told a New York audience Monday that “experience matters”: “Do I think she’s ready to be president or vice president? No, she’s not even close to that,” he said.

Brooks himself has also written skeptically about Palin. "Sarah Palin has many virtues," he wrote in a recent column. "If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness."

Posted by: seemstome | October 12, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and gentlemen - the problem we are facing with Sarah Palin is underestimation. Until Saturday, I like many Americans, believed that Sarah Palin is an idiot. In truth, I now realize she is an idiot savant. To declare, with boldness, that she broke no laws and violated no ethical standards - when the independent investigator clearly states the opposite. Well, folks - that is sheer political genius. This woman apparently spent her college education at 6 separate community colleges combing the libraries for Richard Nixon's personal playbook.

Dems, underestimate this woman at your own peril - she is as dumb as the fox in the hen house, and she has a thirst for blood.

Posted by: rwbird | October 12, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm this sounds way too familiar....typical Karl Rove and Dick Cheney move. The report explicitly says she abused her power and she looks straight into the camera and denies it..unbelievable. She either thinks everyone in america are bunch of idiots or she has total disregard for authority. All this and she has audacity of suggesting the VP position should be granted more power during the VP debate. If Obama doesn't win in a landslide america really does need to look at it's moral compass.

Posted by: ryanr007 | October 12, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

It’s interesting that Sarah Palin responds to the ethics violation by saying she did not benefit financially, so she didn’t violate the law.

The ethics law actually states: “The legislature reaffirms than each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”

She seems to have missed the part about "personal benefit" since she was pursuing this "personal matter" long before she was elected Gov.

This is the same ethics law one would cite if a public officer was bought off or bribed.

This is the same ethics law Sarah Palin was refering to when she fingerpointed fellow Republicans for their "lack of ethics".

This is no technicality. No naive mistake.

I read the full report. She knew what she was doing when she had her husband, a private citizen, pursue this from the Governor's office, with State resources, and resulting in public suffering.

This was a personal vendetta, plain and simple, and Palin used her public office to further her private agenda on this.


Posted by: perlgurl | October 12, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin may have felt that she was justified in her tactics because it was her family; however, as a Governor she needs to understand that her State & our Country come first. If she sees nothing wrong with her actions, she will do this again. It was an abuse of power. If she was seriously worried, why didn't they file a police report to have this officer arrested? Maybe she doesn't have faith in our country's justice system & felt she had to enact her own Palin justice. It's sick.

Posted by: lmloza880 | October 12, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Netherlands Antilles, it's a pleasure to read a perspective from beyond our borders here in these comments. Thank you.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin is acting like a rabid pit-bull at the rallies organized by McCain.
Her security force acts in concert with the local "Gestapo" to sequester and openly harass and threaten members of the press.
Her inflammatory rhetoric is designed to bring out violent and bigoted behavior.
I never thought I would ever see it's like again in this country. Can this be the person who would be president of the united states? Sarah Palin is no laughing matter but a serious threat to liberty and fairness.
If McCain wins, we all lose.
But if his health fails, god help us all.

Posted by: seemstome | October 12, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

BEWARE of stuff like this being written by Pat Buchanan:
"As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago."

Don't Listen to the Xenophobes and Racists. Vote for Senator Obama!

President Barack Obama will change America in many ways. Here are the reasons you SHOULD vote for Senator Obama for President:

Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
Increase H-1B Visas from 85,000 to 750,000
Increase Affirmative Action
Increase financial aid to minority students
Increase student loans to minority students
Increase L1 Visas to allow more foreign students in the U.S.
End White Privilege

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Momlove wrote: This Wooten character is a low life jerk, and anyone who attacks Palin for what she did cannot be anything else but that themselves.
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I agree. Todd Palin's a low life jerk, Levi whatever's a low life jerk, Ted Stevens is a low life jerk, Bristol's just kind of dumb and irresponsible, and according to the Branchflower report, so is Sarah Palin. This leads me to believe that Alaska's full of low life jerk men, and dumb irresponsible women. We shouldn't be insulting Sarah Palin. We should be insulting ALL Alaskans.

Jewel, you're next! LOL

Posted by: Terrorfied | October 12, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

this republican campaign reminds me of the wizard of oz , when the curtain falls and we see the wizard¨s true identity .the voters will play the part of dorothy,palin the wicked witch and mc cain of course as the wizard , a litle man pretending to be so much more .
whats most unnerving is that what we see now might be representative of whats been happening for a long time in u s politics , but courtesy of the internet, the general public is getting a glimpse backstage.
how could civilized people consider electing such petty, mean spirited puppets of industry as our leaders .

Posted by: wofat | October 12, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

THNX OFFICERMANCUSO!


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 12, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

You gotta love that the republican idea of a 'reformer' is someone who violates ethical codes, conducts state business on a yahoo account, and runs the biggest welfare state in the nation. Hilarious...

Posted by: petey5 | October 12, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Officermancuso wrote, “Is she ready to believe that Obama can restore her to sanity?”

Only if McCain/Palin supporters are right when they call Obama the Messiah.

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Typical "Republi-speak", deny the very existence of the statement in the report ..."Investigator Stephen Branchflower's 263-page report said Palin breached state ethic laws when she, her husband and members of her administration tried to get the ex-husband of her younger sister fired as an Alaska state trooper."

And then she comes along, with a straight face, declares the exact opposite. This is how these people do it, the GOP, Faux News, and the Carl Rove crowd....if they say it enough, truth be damned, then the dumb people will believe it to be fact. Well, it’s fiction people. Wake up and smell the kool-aid.

Either that, or this woman can’t read.

I was watching Gov. Hockey Mom just this afternoon, and she had the gall to try and blast the Dems for ..."only wanting to concentrate on the past....". Isn't this the same Pit Bull that has been blasting the Dems for their ..."...past associations"?!?!?!? Didn’t she just lament how the past is a good indicator of a person’s character, and a proper gauge to try and understand what that person will do in the future? That’s what she’s been using as her reasoning for lambasting the Democratic candidate on his past associations, no matter how insignificant. But now that the pump is on the other foot, (or is it leather knee highs?), she sings a different tune. Typical GOP politics…..innuendo based in hypocrisy.

I'll be so glad, when on November 5, I can look forward to McCaint’s imminent retirement, and we can send this twit back to Alaska, where she can answer the charges that are certainly forthcoming for her abuses in office regarding "Troopergate"

Posted by: pblakeii | October 12, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

The Governor Sarah Palin found guilty of failing to control her husband Todd Palin, but it is perfectly OK for her to fire the police commissioner? How laughable! When was the wife guilty of her husband's crime when the husband really did not commit any crime? In order to find her culpable, he must be found guilty first. But guilty of what, repeatedly complaining about a bad cop? Is that a crime in the State of Alaska?

If the Alaskan legislators reviewing the investigative panel report think that an Alaskan citizen complaining about a bad cop persistently (the "pressure" that the panel found so disagreeable) to the state police commissioner is a crime, Alaska is definitely closer to Putinist Russia than the US.


What should have been concluded from the evidence found and presented by the panel is this:

"Although it is possible that Governor Sarah Palin might have abetted or even directed her husband, Todd Palin, to press the case of the trooper Wooten with the police commissioner Monegan, we have not found any tangible evidence that conclusively proves such assertion beyond the realm of speculation."

Instead, the panel decided to take this route:

"Although we have not found any tangible evidence proving without doubt that Governor Sarah Palin abetted or even directed her husband, Todd Palin, to press the case of the trooper Wooten with the police commissioner Monegan, we conclude from the realm of our speculation that she did."

What the panel did was to appeal their case on the basis of the investigator Stephen Branchflower's skills in mind reading, divination, and crystal gazing, if not serving up outright personal misgivings, to arrive at the finding, the finding that lacks the necessary evidence for a full criminal case against the governor (in America we don't convict someone on the basis of the prosecutor's beliefs and guesses as the evidence—hopefully).

As Shakespeare once said, this investigation was "much ado about nothing," except to embarrass the governor. This, of course, came about at the sweet, divine moment for the Democrats craving for the next presidency, making them feel even more certain that their presidential candidate is the "One," although which One is still to be determined.

Posted by: GeorgePS | October 12, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

1. Sarah's side:
She loves babies, loves sister, loves nephew, love elderly father, love husband. Husband loves extended family.


The REALITY of Troopergate:

Sarah's side broke the law.
Sarah's side lied about breaking the law.
Sarah's side encouraged employees to break the law.
Sarah's side wasn't concerned about the the nephew or sister - until two years afterwards, when it was payback time.
Sarah's side didn't care about anybody's loved ones or extended family but their own.

Sarah is STILL lying about the whole thing.

Posted by: progressiveliberal | October 12, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Are we still arguing whether or not St. Sarah of the Snows is qualified to be Veep?

McCain could have gone to any Republican country club or corporate executive board room and in a weekend found someone more qualified.

She's a community college educated person you can find in any beauty parlor.

Turning ignorance into a virtue doesn't make is so.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, here's the thing that perhaps only a person living in the USA can understand. As long as white and black are keeping score and each demanding that their grievances against the other must be atoned for (rather than moved beyond), race relations can only get worse. Both races have real, rubbed-raw grievances.

Obama has wisely been at great pains not to inflame racial passions during this contest - and a spirited defense of Rev. Wright could only inflame such passions among most of the electorate (rightly or wrongly).

Signs point to a time of healing and transcendence of those sufferings. I'm not an idiot, I don't think that the cruel effect of slavery and segregation will be lifted from the back of black citizens of the USA in 8 years, nor do I believe that the disproprionate rate at which blacks murder whites - and all the grievances that has stored up among whites - will disappear in that span of time.

All of that is a zero-sum game, which you perhaps must live here to fully understand.

Something new is at work, and it's hopeful.

It will not be advanced by bringing the Wright agenda into the debate, and more than it would be by bringing the George Wallace agenda, as a few of McCain's more deranged advocates do in these comment boxes.

Let us apply balm to the nation's wounds, rather than pour salt into them.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

The pig with lipstick is now a lying pig with lipstick.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 12, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

President Barack Obama will change America in many ways. Here are the reasons you SHOULD vote for Senator Obama for President:

Expand the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act
Increase H-1B Visas from 85,000 to 750,000
Increase Affirmative Action
Increase financial aid to minority students
Increase student loans to minority students
Increase L1 Visas to allow more foreign students in the U.S.
End White Privilege
Increase Funding for ACORN
Increase funding to Muslim Charter Schools

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Tom22 | October 12, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

PALIN: MS HUBRIS, USA
In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride and arrogance; it is often associated with a lack of knowledge combined with a lack of humility. An accusation of hubris often implies that suffering or punishment will follow, similar to the occasional pairing of hubris and nemesis in the Greek world. The proverb "pride goes before a fall" is thought to sum up the modern definition of hubris. In reference to someone being in hubrity: hubrity is a fulfillment of being hubristic or a continual behavior of being prideful. Victor in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein exudes hubris in order to become a great scientist, but is eventually regretting this previous desire. Faustus in Christopher Marlowe's play Dr. Faustus exudes hubris, all the way until his final minutes of life.

Posted by: nacnudbob | October 12, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

This “FORMER” Republican has already voted via "mail-in ballot". I did not find it hard to already cast my vote for Obama. It was a no-brainer. Once McCain placed this wacky female on his ticket for V.P. I immediately took a much closer look at Obama and his entire platform. He makes sense, whereas John "Crash" McCain has already gotten too senile when he brought on-board his “great-granddaughter” looking as his running mate.

McCain is losing it big time.. or should I say; "has already lost it” ... and will continue to lose it up to and including election day. I researched a winner ... Obama! White, black, yellow or gray... the guy is a winner!! Thank you "Crash" for helping me decide. I couldn't get my write-in ballot in the mail fast enough.

One more thing…. If you want to get into personal issues, try looking into McCain’s divorce from his first wife. It is ugly and he acted like a complete jerk. All the time “Crash” was a prisoner of war his stunning looking first wife stood behind him. She got into an auto accident during this time and was disfigured. McCain comes home from the war … takes one look at his first wife … and heads for the door into the open arms of his “granddaughter looking” blond bomb-shell new wife. He should be ashamed of himself.

Bye, bye, “Crash”… and “good riddance” to your buddy who got us all into this ugly jackpot in the first place. Eight years was way too much anguish. I can not stand another minute.

The big kicker is … “the economy.” If we were not already in a bad place now we are even worse. Thanks a bunch, "W" you did a great job (tongue in cheek).

I was once proud to be a Republican back with Ronald Reagan was president. It is beyond imagination to see was a disaster our party has turned into. I should have got out back when the attack on President Clinton happened. This what the Republican Party has turned into: "attack, attack, attack" which leads to "fear, fear, and more fear." You can have it. I quit! GO OBAMA!!

Posted by: majr99 | October 12, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow, this lady scares me. The whole world can see how she has abused her power. When lesser officials point it out, she leans back and looks to her comrads for support, then looks you straight in the eye and says "I didn't abuse my power, and let me set you straight..." we should watch out. She knows something about control and who's really in power.
I lived in Alaska for 16 years until I saw Sarah Palin get in office. when I heard that the Governor of my state had pulled books she didn't agree with off the shelves of her local library, I knew America was about to set up the image of the beast and it was time to get out of the fridged wasteland.
She speaks in tongues and claims God's will is both for us to be in the Iraq war and to build the natural gas pipeline. She speaks for God? She used her church to get elected... aren't there laws against that? And you want her to be vice-president? I will leave America on that day. Have you ever read about the woman riding the scarlet colored beast?

Posted by: jamesonofthunder | October 12, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

The Alaskan legislature has concluded that Governor Palin has violated state ethics laws and abused her power. Typically, Palin ignores this proving why the legislature came to this conclusion.
If Palin became Vice President she would continue this pattern of abuse of power.
If Palin became the President of the United States, it would be a disaster followed by impeachment.

Posted by: seemstome | October 12, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

It's not that Sarah Palin doesn't read newspapers---it's that apparently she can't read at all! The report did find that she abused her powers as governor and may well have committed a misdemeanor in trying to get Wooten fired and in interfering in his Workmen's comp case. Not to mention that every single charge against this trooper comes from the Palins. Todd is apparently some psycho stalker who is obsessed with Wooten. And how come we've never heard Todd speak? This person could someday (heaven forbid) represent us as "first dude"--shouldn't we know if he's as dumb as his wife?

Posted by: SueB2 | October 12, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Could the woman not even read as far as finding #1 in the released investigative report? She comes across as a pathological liar.

(In a Saturday conference call with Alaska journalists, Palin said she was "pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of UNETHICAL activity there.")...from above Washington Post article.
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Finding Number One:

For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin ABUSED HER POWER by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch ETHICS ACT.
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What is it about the word ETHICS that she fails to comprehend? To what levels has this country fallen to seriously think this creature is fit for office?

Posted by: 10emlet | October 12, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

She's unfit for office. There is really no other reasonable conclusion. She was barely elected before she started abusing her power, despite being told repeatedly that what she demanded was unethical.

This is the most important choice John McCain could possibly make before the election. And it has become the most overwhelming, indisputable example of his poor judgment. He should not be president. And she should not be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

If you love America, and want it to survive and thrive, please vote Obama.

Posted by: Incalculable | October 12, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Palin is making a laughingstock of the Republican party and fomenting violence and bigotry as a way of avoiding the real issue of the economy and the state of the nation.

I have faith that Americans will make the right choice in November.

Posted by: kismet517 | October 12, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin is still having problems responding to the question.

"Rogue isn't a negative term when you consider that in a cabinet you need a team effort going forward with a governor's agenda."

Wait. Isn't that like a contradiction in terms???

Palin has her own world view, and has no problem whatsoever in kicking to the curb anybody who doesn't go along with it. She has no problem telling the most egregious lies without blinking (or is that winking?)

I heard another politico say today that Palin is a non-issue. I have to disagree; this is not a person who should get anywhere near the White House.

Posted by: progressiveliberal | October 12, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Deeva wrote, "washpostislibscum, I applaud you for being the first Palin supporter to come forward and admit that she lied. She has lied more than once, but you made a very good first step."

Is she ready to believe that Obama can restore her to sanity? ;)

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

This Wooten character is a low life jerk, and anyone who attacks Palin for what she did cannot be anything else but that themselves.

Posted by: momlove | October 12, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Governor Palin lowers the bar for all Governors. She's a petty, vengeful, narrow minded whack job. On November 5th, when the dust settles, she needs to return to Alaska wuth the first dude in tow to where, obviously, her style of politics is appreciated. Go back and continue to persue your desire to secede from the Union. How un-American! You should pack up and leave our great country in any case. Pray on that with Pastor Muthee!

Posted by: CavePalin | October 12, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

tracy3:
"What happened to the country that lead during WW11, where is it??? "

Seriously? Do you mean what happened to the country that sat on the sidelines like cowards for half of WWII while everyone else was trying to stop Hitler? Or are you referring to the country that waited until 1917 to join WW1?
Off topic I know, but the rest of the world is getting a little sick of American arrogance...

Posted by: gary33 | October 12, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

washpostislibscum,

I applaud you for being the first Palin supporter to come forward and admit that she lied. She has lied more than once, but you made a very good first step.

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

The matter is simple:

Palin is guilty of Abuse of Powe; because she violated the state's executive branch ethics act. That is very explicit.

8 Republicans and 4 Democrats reviewed and unanimously decided to make the report public.

Palin's subsequent statements are all balderdash.

Her being found guilty begs the qustions:

1. "Is Sarah Palin realy has Vice Presidential qualities?"

2. "Were McCain to be successful in November, are Americans ready to accept the "First Dude of Alaska" to occupy the office of the US Vice President as he does in the Office of the Governor of Alaska?"

Posted by: NorthernPolarBear | October 12, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey washpostislibscum: What are you smoking? You think Gore was up 14-16 points nationally at this point in the race in 2000? And your source for this info is what exactly? My source (http://www.multied.com/elections/Polls.html) shows Bush ahead or tied in national polls. That took me, oh, about 8 seconds to find.

Posted by: burnsideadam | October 12, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I BELIEVE REV. WRIGHT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WRONG DOING AMERICAN GOVERNMENT DO
NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.
IT SEEMS AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUE,I MEAN SOME OF THEM.


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 12, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

MikeS6, Raf3, laststand327, reuelt, believeit, washpostislibscum, Manolete, washpostislibscum (again),

How do you explain Palin’s blatant lie that the report clears her of all wrongdoing?

BY EXCUSING IT LIKE YOU GUYS DO FOR THE 30 PLUS LIES OBAMA HAS TOLD. I THINK ONE FOR 30 IS FAIR.

Posted by: washpostislibscum | October 12, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a vengeful, ignorant , petty whack job. This is just one more bald faced lie out of the mouth of the woman shown in the film clip, wishing to secede from the Union. How un-American! McCain showed, by choosing Palin as his running mate, exactly how a risky 72 year old maverick behaves. After the dust settles, November 5th, Palin needs to go back to Alaska where, obviously her brand of hatred, secessionist desires, and small mindedness are appreciated. Pray on that with Pastor Muthee!

Posted by: CavePalin | October 12, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

MikeS6, Raf3, laststand327, reuelt, believeit, washpostislibscum, Manolete, washpostislibscum (again),

How do you explain Palin’s blatant lie that the report clears her of all wrongdoing?

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

.

SAINT:
"What Barack Hussein O'Bomba-Nation does to his Kitty, is at this point un-verifiable"

Right, Michelle ain't going to tell... she likes it.

.

Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

WHAT ABOUT AMERICAN GOVERNMENT WAS OSAMA BIN LADEN GOOD FRIEND IN THE COLD WAR TIME(RUSSIA) THINGS GOING SOUR AND VERY BAD BETWEEN THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND OSAMA BIN LADEN
WHAT ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH MAKING BUSINESS WITH OSAMA BIN LADEN FAMILY'S,I MEAN OILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

THE DEVIL TALK ABOUT TERRORIST, BUT YOU ARE TALKING OBOUT YOURSELVES.

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 12, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

.

RE Palin, you know the top dog by what the little dogs are barking at..

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

You liberals are like Borg. Back to the hive! Rehashing the same inane pre-packaged talking points, shame shame.

You think SNL is reality and reality is whatever you want it to be. I wish my brain was that squishy, then I'd just sit around with a cannibis smile on my face and drool into a cup like you.

Posted by: jgarlits | October 12, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Brilliant! Now she can add the word "delusional" to her resume. WINK WINK.

Posted by: flameworker321 | October 12, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Billw-Really;

What Barack Hussein O'Bomba-Nation does to his Kitty, is at this point un-verifiable.

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Toritto on Dirksen, fantastic post as yours always are. Thank you, sir.

He was quite the character, unruly hair and all.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

With the same exact days left before the election during Gore/Bush days.. Gore was ahead 14 points nationally. Plus polls don't mean much these days. Cell phones don't come into the equation and most higher income people don't use home phones anymore.. Thus conservatives aren't polled. Plus we're too busy working to support you guys to take the time to answer a few questions from a hourly wage phone interviewer who most likely enters skewed info. Remember the silent majority in this country? The little old ladies and men who don't come out of the house unless it's church or election day. If ACORN's activities are acceptable in the liberal's eyes or associations with idiots like Ayers.. Or how about the 20 years of shared hatred from a good man like the Rev. Wright.. Then it's quite okay for us to use the racial bias most of the white elderly will take to the voting booth. Go old man go.

Sorry.. Correction. It was 16 points. Even better!

Posted by: washpostislibscum | October 12, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

How long as Northern Exposure Barbie been training to be the new Dick Cheney?

Posted by: light_bearer | October 12, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

To mavisdarling: “How's about the corrupt political system in Washington DC that has been dominated by Republicans for the past 8 years?” I agree. Sen. Obama (3 years in the US Senate, Sen. Biden 36 years in the US Senate, Sen. McCain 25 years in the US Senate, Gov. Palin 0 years in Washington!) Sen. McCain well known maverick in Washington. Sen. Biden an ultimate Washington insider. Sen. Obama lacking any experience besides sitting in the US Senate. “Chicago Politics is ANCIENT news.” The corruption in Chicago is never old news for the rest of the USA simply because we do not know anything about it. I would like to know more, especially the part how you graduate from the community organizer into the State Senate.“So is ACORN … OLD NEWS.” In this case, I am not sure why FBI has raided ACORN offices in recent days. We are talking about millions of false voter registrations. In other words, the massive voter registration fraud sponsored by the Obama campaign with over $800K.

Posted by: Wiel | October 12, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

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tracey3:
"What happened to the country that lead during WW11, where is it??? "

Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Manolete, if Sarah Palin represents the best that a human being with two X chromosomes can do in politics, then such humans really do belong in the kitchen and the laundry, and not the White House or Capitol.

Notice the "if", please.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Once upon a time there were giants in the GOP:

"In poor health, drained from working fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen-hour days, Senator Everett Dirksen of Illinois quietly. Twice he gulped pills handed him by a Senate page. In his massive left hand, he held a 12-page speech he had typed the night before on Senate stationery .

"I have had but one purpose," Dirksen intoned, "and that was the enactment of a good, workable, equitable, practical bill having due regard for the progress made in the civil rights field at the state and local level."

He warned his colleagues that "we dare not temporize with the issue which is before us. It is essentially moral in character. It must be resolved. It will not go away. It's time has come." He quoted Victor Hugo, the historian and French philosopher who, on the night he died, entered these words in his diary: "stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come."

Dirksen declared, "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing of government, in education, and in employment. It must not be stayed or denied. It is here!" His last words were these: "I appeal to all Senators. We are confronted with a moral issue. Today let us not be found wanting in whatever it takes by way of moral and spiritual substance to face up to the issue and to vote cloture."

Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only once in the thirty-seven years since 1927 had it agreed to cloture for any measure. The clerk proceeded to call the roll at 11:00 a.m. At 11:15 a.m., Republican Senator John Williams of Delaware replied "aye" to the question. It was the 67th vote; cloture had passed by a vote of 71 to 29. The final count showed 44 Democrats and 27 Republicans voting for cloture with 23 Democrats - 20 from the South -- and only 6 Republicans opposed.

...and so the Civil Rights Act came to the floor for a vote and passed.

....truly Country before Party.

Where are those GOP giants today??

:-(

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she is petty and arrogant in her abuse of power to conduct a personal vendetta. She has also shown that she has no regard for ordinary ethical standards. Yet she insists that she did nothing wrong. (Reminds me of Oliver North.) Despite her protestations of deep Christian belief, this woman seems to lack a basic sense of right and wrong.

On top of this, she has demonstrated a profound ignorance of many major issues that affect all of us (foreign policy, environment, the Bill of Rights, to name just a few). Still worse, she tries to cover her ignorance with flimflammery, while showing no interest at all in remedying that lack of knowledge through self-education. A person who is so devoid of curiosity and oblivious to the larger world is unfit for national office.

Her continuing presence on the Republican ticket is a sword of Damocles hanging over all Americans. It's time for the press to look much more closely into who she is, what she's done, and what she really stands for. As a nation we deserve no less.

If Palin is truly the good Christian and patriotic American that she claims to be, she should have no objection to a close look at what she's all about. But if she obfuscates, then we know she's a dangerous fraud.

Both the evidence and the obfuscation that we've seen so far point to "dangerous fraud."

Posted by: SeattleVoter | October 12, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

its all just the media doing there bosses bidding obamas media

Posted by: getsix1 | October 12, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, I'm going to have to vote for McCain/Palin even though they're both idiots. My only other choice is to elect someone who wants to "give" my tax dollars to people who haven't earned them. The American Dream isn't getting something for nothing--that's socialism--it's having the opportunity to get an education so that you can enter the workforce and merit the dream.

Posted by: mtatom | October 12, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

IRISH AMERICAN BARACK OBAMA'S HAVARD SCHOLARSHIP ranks among the best.

HAVARD SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA beats NAVY MCCAIN CRASH EVERY PLANE...A d student obscenely rich wall street oilllllllllll
millionaire graduate last in his class.


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 12, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

(1) The writer of the report, a consultant/lawyer, suggested that Palin violated ethics regulations and cited chapter and verse.

(2) The writer of the report does not appear to understand a thing about the tort of 'wrongful discharge' nor the fact that those dismissed can argue (should argue) that this incident inflamed the governor, and was the ultimate cause of dismissal. I will be surprised if no wrongful discharge suit is brought.

Finally, Palin is as abusive of privilege as Cheney and will give us nothing but another Royal in the Executive Branch. I can't imagine why we need that!

Posted by: bert8 | October 12, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

With the same exact days left before the election during Gore/Bush days.. Gore was ahead 14 points nationally. Plus polls don't mean much these days. Cell phones don't come into the equation and most higher income people don't use home phones anymore.. Thus conservatives aren't polled. Plus we're too busy working to support you guys to take the time to answer a few questions from a hourly wage phone interviewer who most likely enters skewed info. Remember the silent majority in this country? The little old ladies and men who don't come out of the house unless it's church or election day. If ACORN's activities are acceptable in the liberal's eyes or associations with idiots like Ayers.. Or how about the 20 years of shared hatred from a good man like the Rev. Wright.. Then it's quite okay for us to use the racial bias most of the white elderly will take to the voting booth. Go old man go.

Posted by: washpostislibscum | October 12, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I am right because I say I am. Says the mean girl.

Posted by: testerling | October 12, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

toritto;

Having the Name "Bush", makes poor Jeb smell soooooo bad, EVERYONE can smell it!

Ahmadinebad is accusing the US of assaulting the Snozz-Endowed people of Iran with it!

Bush-Stink is Olfactory Terrorism! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Look, let's forget all about whether the report is right or wrong, okay?

The report does say that Sarah is guilty of violating ethics laws. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, but the report says she DID.

So, how she can she POSSIBLY say that the report CLEARED her of any ethical wrong-doing? Because it clearly stated she was guilty!

If she wanted anyone to take her seriously, she should have said something like "Well, obviously I was within my rights to fire Monegan, and I don't agree with the rest of the report..... blah blah blah" At least that would have been halfway credible.

But instead she acted like she couldn't READ or UNDERSTAND what the report plainly said! Even a third grader could see that the report DID find her guilty of the ethics charges.

And THAT is the main problem here, folks: not whether the report is actually right or wrong, but whether Sarah even understands what it said.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 12, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

America, will you stop being petty with the liberal / conservative thing and grow up. Your economy is in the toilet, you have troops dying unnecessarily in Iraq, you have citizens with no jobs and no healthcare, you have pensioners who have worked all their lives now with the prospect of no money to retire on. You have a lot of work to do and fighting amongst yourselves isn't going to get the job done. What happened to the country that lead during WW11, where is it???

Posted by: tracey3 | October 12, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Billw3 wrote, "Wait!! We haven't discussed Obama beating up on the cat when no one's looking yet."

::::guffaw!!:::::

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I want everyone to stop and think about a question for a moment....would you allow your spouse to use your office to make personal phone calls to your subordinates related to a private family matter regarding an employee of the organization you work for? Would any professional say that this is an acceptable business practice? You cannot sit there and tell me that this is acceptable behavior for a professional.

Stop spinning and use your common sense. It was wrong. Period.

Posted by: mldaytripper | October 12, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!

Women must unite against the liberal media vicious, sexist, cruel, demeaning, contemptuous UN-AMERICAN, unfair, unprofessional, unrelenting and blatantly biased treatment against Vice President Sarah Palin and acting blatantly in favor of Barack Hussein Obama during this unprecedented historic quest for the presidency!

Barack Hussein Obama claims a mightier throne, one forged in liberal ideals of justice and equality and hope, BUT he has benefited mightily from sexism in this campaign, and has remained silent. Obama supporters seem very happy with the sexist way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by Sarah Palin, and many believe that most of the "venom" in the campaign is coming from supporters of Obama.

Women of America Unite in this defining moment in American history. To ensure we can grow up from the male dominated government that has caused many of the problems our country is facing; to a country where men and women are equal partners in governance.

Women of America Unite
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!
VOTE for McCain/Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 12, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

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SAINT:
"OK, OK! You all Win!"

Wait!! We haven't discussed Obama beating up on the cat when no one's looking yet.

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Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse


I find the arrogance of troopergate a little too close to bush,cheney,rumsfeld, and wolfowitz.

But she is not too unethical to be a great president.

She is too retarded! Everything out of her mouth is annoying babble: http://mypalininterview.com

Posted by: jay16 | October 12, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Toritto asked:

So....who is going to be Il Duce of the GOP if Mac and cheese lose??

:-)

Do I smell Jeb B in the wings??

-----------------------------------

Only Repub who hasn't left a bad taste in my mouth is John Danforth, and he's as old as McCain.

Jeb Bush might as well be named "Jeb Burr", fugghedaboutit with him.

They need someone who can tack left toward the old Rockefeller wing of the party. Mitt Romney could have done so, perhaps, had he not sold his soul to the hard right only to get slapped upside the head by its religious prejudice. So, IMHO, he's out.

If they turn right, toward a Santorum, they deposit themselves in history's trash can, and we'll see the growth of something new, perhaps something like one of Europe's Christian Democratic parties, pro-life, pro-labor....

It's going to be an interesting next 12 years - may we live to see them all!

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

OK, OK! You all Win!

Sarah Palin is NOT a good choice.

John McCain is also NOT a great Idea either!

But, when you consider that either of them is Waaaaayyyyyy Better than Socialist Barack Obama...


Well,


What can I say?


Ahem,


Cough-COUGH!


Mitt Romney/ Mike Huckabee or Alan Keyes-


PLEASE!!!! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

MikeS6, Raf3, laststand327, reuelt, believeit, washpostislibscum,

How do you explain Palin’s blatant lie that the report clears her of all wrongdoing?

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Howzabout that St. Sahara!?

She can do no wrong...spin any lie...twist any fact into something ugly.

She makes me want to puke with her smug self righteousness. The more we learn the worse she looks.

The lipstick is off the pig....but she's just as ugly as she was before.

Sequester her! McCain's poll numbers are starting to look like Bush's approval rating.

Posted by: hdtex1 | October 12, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame her one bit. I would have had him beat for using a taser on a kid. You liberals make me sick regarding your concentration on issues that don't matter and your complete acceptance of "rogue" activity like hanging out with terrorist and cheating the system by supporting ACORN. If it had been the other way around during the Gore/Bush hanging chad days.. You would still be protesting after smoking out and picking up your welfare checks. Worthless Americans.

Posted by: washpostislibscum | October 12, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Two observations:

First, The report clearly states Gov. Palin “breached state ethic laws”; yet, she claims the report “cleared (her) of “any hint of any kind of unethical activity there”. Perhaps in the alternate universe intelligently, and too often intelligibly, created by the Bush administration a “breach” = “to be cleared”, but not in this one of falling stock markets, disappearing pensions, and and a devastingly futile war.

Second: OK: Let’s say Gov. Palin has been exonerated. Yet, for the last week, she’s been screaming about Mr. Obama’s supposed connections to William Ayers. Someone should ask her if Mr. Obama’s being 8 when the Weathermen was founded, his consistent denouncing of terrorist tactics, and his never having called Mr. Ayers clears Mr. Obama “of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."

Posted by: princeton67 | October 12, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

.

GO PALIN!!! You pulled McCain up two points at Gallup. YEA!!!

.

Posted by: Billw3 | October 12, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

With her digging up the racial issues, the hatred and the spite with her words about another american citizen ADD the issue that she did abuse her authority. Im not voting for McCain, where I would have if he had chosen Romney or some other experienced VP. She is way too unstable for a VP position in one of the greatest nations on this planet

Posted by: playwfire | October 12, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Palin has turned this election into one of the BIGGEST JOKES IN THE HISTORY OF POLITICS. WHAT WAS MCCAIN THINKING WHEN HE PICKED THIS RACIST WOMAN. SHE HAS BEEN PROVEN GUILITY IN A CRIME INVOLVING HER OFFICE, SHE IS INCITING PEOPLE TO RIOT ALL OVER THE US, AND SHE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY OR THE CONDITION WE ARE IN. SHE IS MAKING MCCAIN LOOK STUPID AND IS PROBABLY RUINING HIS POLITICAL CAREER FOR EVER. MCCAIN NEEDS TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM THIS STUPID "NUT".

I AM REPUBLICAN, BUT NO MORE, SARA PALIN HAS CHANGED MY MIND, MY FRIENDS, THEIR FRIENDS, AND MANY MANY OTHERS. THE THOUGHT OF THIS WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE MAKE ME "LITERALLY SICK TO MY STOMACH"""....

Posted by: VOTERNOTPLEASED | October 12, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

The tropper tasered the step-son. So Sarah Palin firing his boss after not even reporting the incident is right? That's insane. This from the abstinence-only education supporter who can't even get that rule to stick in her own house. Palin needs to clean HER house before she sticks her dirty nose in mine. Incidentally, if the girl got pregnant without the hypocrisy of her mother, it WOULD be a non-issue like the GOP wants it to be. They made it an issue when they've dragged in every illegitimate child of a Democrat's family all these years.

Posted by: juliaperryman | October 12, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I love how people keep bringing up the trooper "tasering" his son - it's EXACTLY how the spin game works. It sounds horrible - that he shot his son with a taser. Then you find out that the trooper was a taser safety instructor, and that's what he hooked up to his ten year old son, who was curious what a taser felt like. (If you were a ten year old boy, wouldn't you be curious how a taser felt, if your dad could show you without being shot?). The trooper was a safety instructor - do you think he had an idea whether or not it was safe enough for his son? It was kind of a stupid thing to do, but it's the kind of stupid thing people do sometimes. It seems pretty harmless to me. But tomake sure it is the trooper that is villified, the spin on it is the he "tasered his young son."

Posted by: dinnerbellmel | October 12, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

TO DWASHINGTON1

WHERE ARE YOU DWASHINGTON1?


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 12, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

I was taught that ethical/moral standards should always be ABOVE the legal standards. Apparenty, Palin cannot make the distinction between the two. What does that say about her character?

Posted by: kondokeiko | October 12, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Latest electoral college projections:

Obama 333 (+13 more in Md. and D.C. not included as polls still taking place)

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

How can John McCain look American citizens in the eye and say I made the best choice for America by picking Sarah Palin. Does he have so little respect for his country. If the republicans are truly committed to this woman, where are they?. Surely in the whole republican party, you could have picked a normal, charming woman if you wanted the female vote. Someone from the deep south would have made more sense than this one. And why isn't George Bush campaigning for his candidate, isn't that what past presidents do. The world watches for some sign of normal behavior from the republican party. If this is what's on offer from a McCain administration, America is heading for the mother of all recessions and the rest of the world will turn the other cheek just like we pulled out of Iraq. Oh and by the way we are not cowards, we are in Afghanistan.. We do respect the victims of 9/11 and Bali, we just know what's right and what's wrong

Posted by: tracey3 | October 12, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

To anyone who blindly says this is a defense of Trooper Wooten, that's BS. As the Branchflower report stated, Palin was within her rights to fire EWalter Monegan for ANY reason... the ethics violation has to do with allowing Todd baby and her subordinates, who are NOT elected officials of the state of Alaska, to use the leverage of the office of Governor for something other than official state business. Todd has NO business insinuating himself into state affairs... the people did NOT elect him. Yet to cast the so-called "First Gentleman" (geez, what a lame title) as this do-gooder is ridiculous. The Palins screwed up. Many of their lies are now coming out (for example, it seems now that they weren't in danger at all from Wooten) and for her to say that the report "vindicates" her is just blind. She'll try to pull the same stuff as VP, since she doesn't have the qualifications for that office. We don't need someone like "that one" (I just had to throw that in).

Posted by: mjb5406 | October 12, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Somebody above said: "I find it amusing how all liberals are ignoring the fact that the trooper tasered his own step-son. Seriously, what is the confusion?

But I was forgetting liberals don't know understand logic."

Anybody with a shred of sense can see that is a very ILLOGICAL statement.

The tasering incident had already been investigated, the trooper was suspended for five days, and the case was closed long before Sarah took office, long before Monegan became the trooper's boss.

Dude, the kid ASKED to be tasered to see what it felt like. It was on LOW POWER and the mother was present during the incident. The trooper was disciplined for the incident at least a year before Sarah took office.

Get the facts. The trooper had kept his nose clean after being disciplined and there were no legal grounds to fire him. The case was closed.

Monegan would have violated state law if he HAD fired him for no reason. Sarah just didn't GET that, among other things!


Posted by: mavisdarling | October 12, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

MikeS6, Raf3, laststand327, reuelt, believeit,

How do you explain Palin’s blatant lie that the report clears her of all wrongdoing?

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

MikeS6, Raf3, laststand327, reuelt, believeit,

How do you explain Palin’s blatant lie that the report clears her of all wrongdoing?

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Let's take a look at Palin's leadership in her own family.

1) She dates in secret her husband's business associate.
2) Her oldest son is addicted to OxyContin.
3) Her oldest daughter gets pregnant by a pothead.

Great leadership Governor!

Posted by: BiasedWriter | October 12, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

LolaSanderman, your Nixon comparison is especially apt in light of this sentence: "The ethics report determined that the governor' actions and failure to rein in her husband amounted to an abuse of power because she was pursuing a personal vendetta rather than serve the public interest."

I'm not one to pile on Nixon, but whatever personality defect led him to pursue personal vendettas when he was sitting atop the world has played a significant and unpleasant part in the history of the US presidency.

Posted by: officermancuso | October 12, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

So....who is going to be Il Duce of the GOP if Mac and cheese lose??

:-)

Do I smell Jeb B in the wings??

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Rich GOP REPUBLICAN wall street make the rules(NEWS, WAR,PEACE,FAMINE,UPHEAVALE.)
Greed is treasons against AMERICAN people,no more GOLDEN PARACHUTES for executive criminals.

The sentences sum_up what the party GOP REPUBLICAN stands for,and they are:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 12, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Are you seriously saying that those of us in ARIZONA need to be more concerned with CHICAGO politics than NATIONAL politics? You must think I'm as stupid as Palin does.

Posted by: juliaperryman | October 12, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm concerned that so many of you would defend a police officer that would taser any child! Police brutality should never be accepted and that officer should have been canned from the beginning. I can't believe they just let him go for 5 whole days! I would be scared of him too. If there was any one in my business that did that I'd fire him too. I think Palin had every right to ask for this man's firing. Next time he just might kill someone in anger. Shame on all of you for supporting someone like this.

Posted by: believeit | October 12, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

After this, Palin will end up with a job at Fox News, along with Karl Rove.

But secretly she wants to be President of Alaska.

Posted by: ElMugroso | October 12, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

previously posted:

"The Trooper used a Taser on his Step-son!?
Folks, what is the Confusion here?"

He used the Taser with a "training" setting that troopers used on one another to get a sense of what it feels like without receiving the full effect. He attached the clips to the boys clothing not his skin. Basically it was equivalent to the static shock you would get by shuffling your shoes on a carpet in winter then touching a door knob.

FYI, the Heath/Palin family were present when this happened but didn't make ANY complaints until two years later during a nasty custody battle. So if it was so serious, why wait so long to make a complaint. Oh, and guess who the boy chose to live with: the father, Trooper Wooten.


Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Palin realized at any point that she would become the poster-child of why you should screen your employees, or vet your VP, a little better.

Personnel departments around the world will be using her as an example for years to come.

Guess that fifteen minutes will last a little longer than we all thought.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Alaska politics sounds like a meeting of a florida retired folks condo association.

Big mouths, petty grievances, know-it-alls, general first class pains in the a$$.

Small town politics........

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight, a trooper tasers someone, so therefore you fire his boss.

Posted by: djgolfer | October 12, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin was found to have abused her executive power as Governor of Alaska. Governor Palin's response, "pleased to be cleared of...any hint of any type of unethical activity there". Huh? Either she is an idiot or she thinks the rest of us are. She double-talks excessively so that people eventually don't know which of her lies to believe!

Posted by: burkdogs | October 12, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has been found to have abused her executive powers, violated state ethics, and lied about it. Found by a committee comprising 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats.

Under the Constitution, ABUSE OF POWER is an impeachable offensive.

Can anyone say, Nixon?

Please Alaska, call your girl back. America's had ENOUGH.

Posted by: LolaSanderman | October 12, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

MikeS6, Raf3, laststand327, reuelt,
How do you explain Palin’s blatant lie that the report clears her of all wrongdoing?

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

DEMOCRAT HAVARD LAW BARACK OBAMA VS.GOP REPUBLICAN CRASH JET IN MUDVILLE MMCAIN...

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 12, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

To aspire to one of the two highest offices in our land, one sheould be held to higher standards.

To say that since you didn't meet the criteria of being criminally liable in your abuse of power translates into not doing anything wrong, has a lot to say about the character and integrity of an individual.

Up until the appointment of Palin to the ticket, I was intending to vote for McCain. At this point, there isn't anyway anyone with a hint of integrity, could conceivable vote for this ticket.

Posted by: djgolfer | October 12, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"The corrupt political system in Chicago" eh?

How's about the corrupt political system in Washington DC that has been dominated by Republicans for the past 8 years?

What a sophomoric thing to say, Wiel.

The press needs to report about EVERYTHING, and they are. Too bad they just can't seem to find anything that will really stick to Obama.

This Palin Problem is a bigger deal than re-hashed OLD NEWS. Where have you been? Chicago Politics is ANCIENT news, dude.

So is ACORN, which is a recurring Republican theme every election year. OLD NEWS.

This Palin thing is NEW and DIFFERENT and we need to get to the bottom of it. She has been exposed as a narcissistic nutcase, and we need to know more. This woman is NOT fit for office.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 12, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a disgrace to Alaska, the McCain campaign, the Republican Party, and the women's movement.

She is a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE. She lied about the bridge to nowhere. She lied about her foreign policy credentials. She's a hypocrite in that she purports to lead a wholesome Christian family, yet her oldest son is addicted to Oxycontin and her oldest daughter got pregnant out of wedlock by a pothead, to whom she (Gov. Palin) is forcing marriage upon to mitigate the embarassment.

Posted by: BiasedWriter | October 12, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

HAVARD SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA BEATS NAVY MCCAIN CRASH EVERY PLANE IN INTELLECTUAL DEBATES....

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: fu_buki | October 12, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Easy choice from so called "troopergate"

1. Sarah's side:
She loves babies, loves sister, loves nephew, love elderly father, love husband. Husband loves extended family.

2. Obama's side (Hollis French et.al)
Cared not for tasered year old boy.
cared not for ill-treated woman (molly)
cared not for death-threatened elderly man.
Predefined "must-include words" in final report before investigation. Supports a misbehaved trooper. Claims sacking when it was a transfer. Announced "October Suprise" for unfair political advantage. (there is no need to hurry. if Sarah is really guilty wouldn't it be more demeaning to have to resign as VP years later?)

Obama's (DEMs - Hollis French's) side - filty politics that VOTERS need to get rid off.

Palin's side Clean, efficient loving governmnet, life, family, safety
THE REAL PEOPLE's CHOICE on Nov 4.

Posted by: reuelt | October 12, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

We know that Palin is now a drag on the ticket nationally, but will this finding make her damaged goods in Alaska as well? Could Alaska's electoral votes be in play now? Methinks her 80% approval rating is in tatters.

Posted by: optimyst | October 12, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I find it amusing how all liberals are ignoring the fact that the trooper tasered his own step-son. Seriously, what is the confusion?

But I was forgetting liberals don't know understand logic.

Posted by: laststand327 | October 12, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

What the world rather have seen Palin have a political fundraiser in the living room of a known terrorist? Oh wait, she was only an infant at the time the terrorist tried to blow up the capital, so it would have been okay.

Posted by: RAF3 | October 12, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The investigation said she violated Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, which states, "… each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."
Inexplicably, Palin said she was "pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."

So let me get this straight, if you're Sarah Palin, a bi-partisan panel (10R+4D)
finds that you've violated ethics statutes, and you're pleased as punch that they didn't find you've violated any ethics statutes? Yeah, these are the folks we need running the Govt.

Posted by: fnlorrain | October 12, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

"The Trooper used a Taser on his Step-son!?
Folks, what is the Confusion here?"

He used the Taser with a "training" setting that troopers used on one another to get a sense of what it feels like without receiving the full effect. He attached the clips to the boys clothing not his skin. Basically it was equivalent to the static shock you would get by shuffling your shoes on a carpet in winter then touching a door knob.

FYI, the Heath/Palin family were present when this happened but didn't make ANY complaints until two years later during a nasty custody battle. So if it was so serious, why wait so long to make a complaint. Oh, and guess who the boy chose to live with: the father, Trooper Wooten.

Posted by: Groundhogday1 | October 12, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Lets see: "Investigator Stephen Branchflower's 263-page report said Palin breached state ethic laws when she, her husband and members of her administration tried to get the ex-husband of her younger sister fired as an Alaska state trooper."

And so Palin says: "pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there."

I have heard more logic coming from a six-year-old! Does this woman not read newspapers? Or listen to TV news? Or anything? Does Sen McCain brief her everyday so she doesn't strain her brain trying to sort out the news herself?????

Gov Palin is clueless.

Or "Tell a lie often enough and loud enough and maybe people will start to believe it". I hope American voters are paying attention.

Posted by: old_angel | October 12, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Where in this report is there mention of the insubordination by Monegan? The cooperation of Branchflower with this insubordination? The changes to the subpoena list made by Branchflower? That Branchflower, an Obama supporter and head of the investigation, promised an "October surprise" before the investigation was completed? That Kim Elton, also an Obama supporter on the investigation, immediately politicized the findings by saying they would help people decide who to vote for in November?

Nice job of balanced reporting!

Posted by: MikeS6 | October 12, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

If you really want to see what Alaskans think of Palin, I did a round up yesterday.

Among other things, you might be asurprised to learn about the apparent RNC takeover of the governor's office.

"What Alaskan Newspapers Are Saying About Sarah Palin"

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-alaskan-newspapers-are-saying.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | October 12, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse
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Great work on this.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Why won't you Palin supporters address the fact that she's LYING about what the report says. She continues to assert that it clears her of all wrongdoing.

Posted by: Deeva | October 12, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

The part that scares me is that Palin is a quick study. If she's able to abuse her power as Governor, just think of what she can do as Vice President. One week with Cheney and you won't be able to tell the difference between Bush/Cheney and McCain Palin. She still has not been interviewed by Meet the Press or other serious news media. The McCain camp has been successful in keeping her isolated. I just can't see how anyone can vote for her just because she is a woman.

Posted by: mrtutto | October 12, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the best thing that could happen to the GOP is to lose by a wide margin.

It would present the opportunity for fiscally conservative / social moderates to rebuild a party devoid of undue influence from the religious hard right and neo-fascists.

A massive defeat could re-align the electorate and force a rethinking of exactly what is "republicanism".

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Using your political clout to get your "enemies" fired. Sounds Nixonian to me.

Hey: There was an established procedure to investigate the trooper's alleged wrongdoing. Once the initial complaint was made, the process should have been allowed to run its course. Anything else is making a petty personal issue out of an alleged personnel matter. That's not a smart or ethical use of power.

Posted by: jackson251 | October 12, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Palin has more skeletons in her closet than just Trooper-Gate:


If you weren't already convinced that McCain's team had no idea what they were doing when they chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, you will be after reading this story.


MEET SARAH PALIN'S RIGHTWING LUNITIC FRINGE PALS FROM ALASKA:
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"Though Chryson belongs to a fringe political party, one that advocates the secession of Alaska from the Union, and that organizes with other like-minded secessionist movements from Canada to the Deep South, he is not without peculiar influence in state politics, especially the rise of Sarah Palin. An obscure figure outside of Alaska, Chryson has been a political fixture in the hometown of the Republican vice-presidential nominee for over a decade. During the 1990s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical right-winger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her political agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin's campaign financially, they played major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory."
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"Palin backed Chryson as he successfully advanced a host of anti-tax, pro-gun initiatives, including one that altered the state Constitution's language to better facilitate the formation of anti-government militias. She joined in their vendetta against several local officials they disliked, and listened to their advice about hiring. She attempted to name Stoll, a John Birch Society activist known in the Mat-Su Valley as "Black Helicopter Steve," to an empty Wasilla City Council seat. "Every time I showed up her door was open," said Chryson. "And that policy continued when she became governor."
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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/
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So let's get this straight. John McCain's team chose someone whose political career was tightly interwoven with - and supported by - extremists. Not just average wingnuts. Extremists. Radicals. A secessionist and a paranoid militia organizer.


There is much, much more in the article, including a brief history of the AIP:
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"The Alaskan Independence Party has got links to almost every independence-minded movement in the world," Chryson exclaimed. "And Alaska is not the only place that's about separation. There's at least 30 different states that are talking about some type of separation from the United States."


This has meant rubbing shoulders and forging alliances with outright white supremacists and far-right theocrats, particularly those who dominate the proceedings at such gatherings as the North American Secessionist conventions, which AIP delegates have attended in recent years.


The AIP has also had a long association with the Constitution Party, which has had a prominent role in a number of racist "patriot" (i.e. militia) movements.


Essentially here’s what they found:
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*That Gov. Palin, when a Wasilla city council member, formed an alliance with some of the more radical far-right citizens in Wasilla and vicinity, particularly members of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party who were allied with local John Birch Society activists. These activists played an important role in her election as Wasilla mayor in 1996.
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*Once mayor, one of Mrs. Palin’s first acts was to attempt to appoint one of these extremists (a man named Steve Stoll) to her own seat on the city council. This was a man with a history of disrupting city council meetings with intimidating behavior. She was blocked by a single city council member.
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*Afterward, Mrs. Palin fired the city’s museum director at the behest of this faction.
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*Palin fomented an ultimately successful effort to derail a piece of local gun-control legislation which would simply have prohibited the open carry of firearms into schools, liquor stores, libraries, courthouses and the like. The people recruited to shout this ordinance down included these same figures, notably the local AIP representative (who became the AIP’s chairman that same year).
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*Palin remained associated politically with the local AIP/Birch faction throughout her tenure as mayor on other issues, particularly a successful effort to amend the Alaska Constitution to prohibit local governments from issuing any local gun-control ordinances.


In general, they found that not only did Mrs. Palin have numerous associations with these extremists, she actively sought to empower them locally and to enact their agendas both locally and on a state level.
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http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palins-dalliances-with-wasillas.html
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So, McCain's cute lil' sidekick, that all-American hockey mom, the "pitbull with lipstick" that the cable news networks just couldn't get enough of for weeks, is actually so far removed from mainstream American politics and ideals that it's impossible to imagine her ever handling the job for which she has been recruited.


Palin may inspire the rightwing lunitic fringers, and she may be able to tell voters the best way to store their gold and guns when the black helicopters come, but she's clearly the worst possible choice McCain could have made for his potential successor.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 12, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

You have to wonder how many people even know the "Emperor has no Clothes" story anymore.

Couldn't we send a brief copy of this story to all the GOP adults in the country?

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Palin has proven to the world she is an accomplished little liar.. How will she spin the unmarried pregnant daughter. Australia is disgusted

Posted by: tracey3 | October 12, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

If you really want to see what Alaskans think of Palin, I did a round up yesterday.

Among other things, you might be asurprised to learn about the apparent RNC takeover of the governor's office.

"What Alaskan Newspapers Are Saying About Sarah Palin"

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-alaskan-newspapers-are-saying.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | October 12, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Right on Gov. Palin. I feel sorry for the media both print and visual for the waste of their valuable resources on this story. Instead, they should focus their resources on the investigation of the corrupt political system in Chicago politics. I would suggest to start with the ACORN and community organizers there.
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I just laughed so hard that milk I drank yesterday just came out my nose.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

A tenant of Karl Rove's political philosophy is the, "King is never wrong" so when it comes to Palin, the "Queen is never wrong." Rove, Bush, Cheney, Addington, McCain, Davis, Schmidt, Palin and their kind go through life discounting the standards of human dignity in achieving their intended purposes. These are low life despicable people who have no business seeking the public's trust nor should they ever receive it.

Posted by: louismraskin | October 12, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Here's a little Q & A for the slow people.

Q: Did this investigation start before, or after Palin was picked as VP.

A: Before.

Q: Were there more Democrats on the committee that just found her guilty of ethics violations?

A: No. There were 10 Republicans and only 4 Democrats.

Q: So, how could Obama and the Democrats be gunning for Palin, when this problem existed before when was picked for VP, and the investigation started before Palin was picked for VP?

A: They weren't. It was just the ready-made excuse Palin and the GOP used long before this ruling because they knew she would be found guilty...even with a Republican-stacked committee.

Hope that helps.

Posted by: Grant_x | October 12, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Alaska,

PLEASE COME AND GET YOUR IDIOT!!

We've had ENOUGH!!!

Posted by: sallieismydog | October 12, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Palin is not only an ignorant, lying pol, but an indisputably unethical one too. She's an embarrassment to her office, her state and her political party. After she and McCain lose the election, she'll be consigned to the political wilderness, where she belongs.

Posted by: AndyfromVA | October 12, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Yep, we need someone as bright and honest as Palin to possibly stand in as president...the scary thing is she probably believes what she is saying. I feel sorry for the state of Alaska, their governor makes Florida's Crist look almost angelic.

I said almost.

Posted by: MichelleH | October 12, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Makes little difference.

Mac and St. Sarah are gonna lose and the GOP can fight it out deciding who is gonna be fuehrer.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | October 12, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Just think what the Branchflower report would have turned up if Governor Palin and her staff didn't hide their activities by using Yahoo email accounts.

I mean, what kind of person is crazy enough to use a Yahoo account to conduct official government business?

And now we want to make her Vice President and give her top security clearance and access to all our nation's secrets?

Doesn't seem like such a good idea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPi17bX_4Ec

Posted by: fjfjdvdv | October 12, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin - we hardly knew you.

1. She comes on the scene on McCain’s inauguration

2. She is kept hidden from the press

3. Than her selected interviews – SNL tells it best

4. She debates Biden – I think

5. After the debate, McCain camp says no more interviews

6. Now the Troopergate report (think McCain will let her do any interviews)

7. What’s next...will Palin's assoication with Secessionists be revealed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its&eurl=http://news.vodpod.com/watch/4435

8. Palin's new stump speech is taking care of children with special needs.

This is the same woman who held the head of WOLF PUPS and shot them in the head one by one (you can google it and get the scoop -- it is also in the TROOPERGATE report). Yes, we need a woman with such compassion for life involved with children with special needs.

Her and MICHAEL VICK probably palled around.

Posted by: steveeyes | October 12, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

The Trooper used a Taser on his Step-son!?

Folks, what is the Confusion here?

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 12, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

how can she say she didn't abuse her power when she did weather you did it a little bit are a lot you still abuse your power and she don't need to be know where near the white house her or john mcsame...VOTE OBAMA'08 VOTE OBAMA'08 VOTEOBAMA'08...

Posted by: obama1 | October 12, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin should be an embarrassment to all Evangelicals. Palin has lied repeatedly.

Posted by: JimWalsh1 | October 12, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Right on Gov. Palin. I feel sorry for the media both print and visual for the waste of their valuable resources on this story. Instead, they should focus their resources on the investigation of the corrupt political system in Chicago politics. I would suggest to start with the ACORN and community organizers there.

Posted by: Wiel | October 12, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

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