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Sarah Palin, Freed?

By Perry Bacon Jr.
GREENVILLE, N.C. -- After delivering scripted speeches for much of her candidacy and avoiding contact with reporters, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin spent about a dozen minutes chatting with the press on her campaign plane tonight -- the first time she has done so as a vice presidential candidate.

It may not quite be letting Sarah be Sarah, as some of her supporters have urged, but it was the most open that she has been on the campaign trail so far.

And, as she traveled through Florida the past couple of days, Palin also spoke to two local television stations. The other three candidates running for national office do this nearly every day, but not Palin -- until this week.

On her campaign plane, she took repeated questions about her emphasis the last few days on William Ayers, the 1960s radical who hosted an event for Barack Obama in 1995 but is not a close adviser to the Democratic nominee. As in her debate performance, she had a turn of phrase she kept repeating, arguing Obama's association with Ayers raised questions about his "judgment" and "forthrightness."

Asked if she was saying Obama was "dishonest," she returned to her theme.

"I'm not saying that he's dishonest," Palin said on the flight from Pensacola, Fla., to Greenville, "but in terms of judgment and in terms of being able to answer questions forthrightly, it has two different parts to this, that judgment and that truthfulness and just being able to answer very candidly a simple question about when did you know him, how did you know him, has been there been an association continued since '02 or '05. We've heard a couple of different stories. I think it's relevant."

She batted back questions about whether Americans were tired of divisive politics and wanted to hear more about the economy by saying Obama's comments about Ayers were related to those issues.

"It makes you wonder about the forthrightedness, the truthfulness of the plans that he is telling America in regards to the economic recovery because that is first and foremost on American's minds," she said.

In her conversation with reporters, Palin also explained her husband Todd's decision to testify in the investigation into her firing of the Alaska director of public safety, who had refused to fire her former brother-in-law, a state trooper.

"Nobody has anything to hide," she said. "Nobody's done anything wrong."

The governor referred to the incident as "Tasergate," referring to allegations that her former brother-in-law used a taser on his 11-year-old stepson, instead of what her critics call "Troopergate."

Asked if she would appear on Saturday Night Live with Tina Fey, who even Obama has noted shares a strong resemblance to the Palin, the Alaska governor smiled.

"She's a hoot and she's so talented and it would be fun to either imitate her or keep on giving her more material and keep her in business," Palin said.

Palin seemed relaxed in the session, even as her press advisers, Tucker Eskew and Tracey Schmitt, watched carefully. In between questions, the governor shook hands with reporters who introduced themselves to her.

Palin, who has complained of "gotcha questions" by reporters, seemed to signal a shift in her view of the press in an interview with an NBC affiliate in Tampa Bay on Monday.

"The hits that I take from the media, if I can't handle that now, you know, I shouldn't be seeking office," she said. "The hits that I take now are nothing compared to the hits that some are facing across this nation today when you consider folks who are worried about losing their home."

On the other hand, Palin is still staying in a safe zone: she will appear in two interviews on FOX News on Wednesday.

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Posted by: scrivener50 | October 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

WHAT IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HIDEING FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? WHAT SARAH SIX-PACK REALLY MIGHT SAY.

Posted by: usapdx | October 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Respect is a quality that has to be earned, and is not just a duty that we are obliged to do because someone is well known or running for a very important office. If any candidate wants the respect of the average American citizen and voter, first of all she has to treat them with respect, as intelligent and trying-to-be-informed voters--even if many of them are not.

We are assured by the GOP that Palin is tough enough to stand up to the likes of Putin and other rough men, even though she can't even stand up to the American free press (regardless of its faults and, in some cases, its biases). So when we the voters finally get to see her "debate" (to use that term so loosely), she gives us this Betty Boop winking routine, underscoring her natural inanity. The press, which is allowed so little access to her, does not need to try (as Ed Koch wrote today) "to make her look foolish and provincial"--she is.

The GOP (rightfully!) sneered at Hillary whenever she hid behind the phony veil of "sexism" directed against her and causing her defeat in the primaries. But any criticism of Palin becomes now a sexist attack. Yes, having her explain what is the "Bush Doctrine" was a bit unfair--it implies that President Bush-Cheney actually have a clear or thought-out policy plan--although I must admit that I could have answered that question. But when she claims to be such an informed person through reading "everything" in the press and yet cannot name one such press item from which she gets her information (oh yes, she finally did come up the name "New York Times"), then . . . make your own conclusion. When she cannot name a single Supreme Court case of significance beyond Roe v Wade, then . . . make your own conclusion. When she cannot discuss the significant issues of this election in front of a crowd but can only repeat memorized attack lines against Obama's character, most of which have been proved to be silly and irrelevant at best, or outright distortions or lies at worst, then . . . make your own conclusion.

No, Betty Boop transformed into Sarah Soup has not earned my respect. Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani also had not an ounce of my respect either. I judge them not by the color of their skin, or the configuration of their genitals, but by the content of their character.

How do you judge them?

Posted by: radicalpatriot | October 8, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the state is going to review her per diem claims.

"Palin's per diem under review

$17,000: State will look to see if she should pay taxes on money she gets for staying in her Wasilla home."

"Gov. Sarah Palin's practice of charging the state when she stays in her home must be reviewed to determine if she should pay taxes on the payments, state Finance Director Kim Garnero said Tuesday.

Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, released two years' worth of tax returns last week that did not list the per diem payments she received since becoming Alaska governor in December 2006. She collected nearly $17,000 during that period for 312 nights spent in her Wasilla home about an hour's drive from Anchorage, according to state travel records.

Palin listed 157 days spent in Anchorage during 2007 on her travel forms. Garnero said Palin's work place as governor is considered to be Juneau, so she filed for the per diem payments when she stayed at her home in Wasilla.

But state officials consider changing an employee's work station when they spend most of their time in another area, she said. That review will occur for Palin, Garnero said, which may require Palin to report future per diem payments as income.

"That's something we need to confer with the governor's office on," said Garnero, who said she was not aware of the number of days Palin spent working in Anchorage."

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/549095.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

nowanna3, Some comments from that thread (there's no unanimous agreement):
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/10/tax-profs-agree.html

Googling >"Jack Bogdanski" + obama comes up with interesting connections

. . .

Wow, so if I take my taxes to H&R Block and pay them to take care of it for me, I can later find myself subject to public condemnation and tax penalties for their screwups.

Who cares about Palin? H&R Block is the one who looks pretty bad in all of this.

(Yeah, I know, the odds of me having a hundred ideologically motivated academics singularly focused on slinging mud at me are pretty low. But still, that's why you pay H&R Block, to get it right. By the way, how's the review of Obama's tax returns shaping up...)

. . .

Maybe these professors should offer their services to H&R Block. Imagine how many of Block's other clients might have similar problems.

. . .

I hope any analysis based on Sec. 274(m)(3) takes into account Reg. Sec. 1.132-5(t). That subsection appears to expressly delink determinations of employer deductions for related-person travel expenses from those of employee inclusion. If one must therefore revert to plain vanilla Sec. 162 business-purpose analysis, all that stuff therein about Congresspersons and state legislators seems to provide at least some rationale for a governor's excluding arguably similar income, if a governmental business purpose can be shown (e.g., the politics of presenting a functional family to the world, or some such.) Certainly there's enough authority to defer hitting the Sec. 6662 panic button.

Lord knows if the 1040 and W-2 preparers were looking at this, but it seems to present a problem for quickie web critiques based in the Sec. 274 language. Of course, the business-purpose sifting is thankless, probably indeterminate, and may ultimately dictate inclusion.

More to the point, the Palin returns reflect the kind of rough tax justice that fills the working world. One can argue that the return positions lack a certain sophistication. However, to get a little meta here, they also arguably better represent the true dynamics of taxation policy and practice than do more technically careful analyses.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"More on Palin's tax returns (Updated)"

"Under a post, Tax Profs Agree: Gov. Palin's Tax Returns Are Wrong, a couple tax law professors write that the Palins appear to have underpaid taxes. And they're not buying a letter issued by the campaign last week from Roger Olsen, a Washington, D.C., tax attorney, who defends the Palins' returns, including handling of per diem payments to Alaska's first family.

Writes John Bogdanski, professor of law at Lewis & Clark: "There is no serious debate (at least, none that has been brought to our attention) about the fact that at least the amounts paid for the children's travel -- $24,728.83 in 2007, according to the Washington Post -- are taxable. The campaign's tax lawyer has got at least that much of the law, and perhaps more, wrong."

In a later update, Bogdanski unearths the State of Alaska's posted policy on long-term per diem. He thinks the state failed to follow its own rules when it didn't include diem payments last year as taxable income for the governor.

This document is a potential blockbuster. It establishes two important facts:

(1) The state has long acknowledged that it had a duty to determine whether Palin's "tax home" was really Anchorage and Wasilla, a conclusion which would have required that her per diems be reported as taxable income.

(2) The state knew that when an employee is planning to spend a majority of her time on state business in the Anchorage area for a four-year period, Anchorage is the employee's "tax home," and per diems for time spent in the "tax home" are taxable income.

So why didn't Alaska officials follow the state's official policies and report Palin's per diems as taxable income on her W-2? Only they can answer that."

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132324

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Did she take questions on why she didn't pay taxes for per diem pay received while staying at her home in Wasilla? The State of Alask, per news breaking in the last few hours, is reconsidering its decision not to report Palin's per diem to the IRS.

Posted by: FactFinder44 | October 8, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

(Partial) List, cont.:

Joe Biden (at least as to AIG)
Louis Farrakhan
Wesley Clark
Tony Rezko
Trinity United Church
His own "hair trigger" campaign ...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Obama_distances_himself_from_hairtrigger_campaign_criticism_.html

Courtesy of "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality" by Jerome R. Corsi

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I found this years ago and always find it interesting to do comparisons.
"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering, April 18, 1946, while awaiting the Nuremberg trials.

Posted by: jgh2 | October 8, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Of course, jgh2, if you believe Joe "Plagarist" Biden, "It's just malarkey, flat malarkey," Biden said of the Ayers criticism. "The guy Barack Obama is going to turn and ask opinion to is me, not that guy."

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Oh okay, nowanna3, I see you were just somewhat joking. Later.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

(Partial) List of People Obama Has Thrown Under the Bus:

Reverend Jeremiah Wright
His grandmother
William Ayers
Jim Johnson
Eric Holder
Samantha Power
Austan Goolsbee
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton
Father Michael Pfleger

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Assuming that she did spit on the earpiece, which I feel is extremely unlikely the chance of it actually spreading a disease are low. Short of having a ruptured or some other open laceration in your ear, this does not seem a likely way to transmit disease.

My somewhat joking comment is that this is not a likely studied means of transmission, i.e. aural sex.


"I posted a paper on transmitting diseases via saliva. You want some more from NEJM?"
-- MarkInAustin

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Who wants to be called an "attack dog" a "baracuda"? Is this what Hiliary Clinton worked for when shetried to break the glass ceiling?

Posted by: amitchell13 | October 8, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin should disassociate herself from John McCain if she is to have any ongoing credibility in the Republican Party come 2012

Posted by: amitchell13 | October 8, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

MarkInAustin.
My friend, I get the feeling that McCain would throw anyone under the bus to become president. My friend, that would have to be one big bus. Or, if they were lying side by side, it would take a long time and many miles to complete his task, my friend

Posted by: jgh2 | October 8, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

"Pieces fall into place for Troopergate inquiry

FRIDAY REPORT: Nearly everyone investigator had hoped to question, minus governor, will be on record."

"Branchflower has, or soon will have, answers from nearly all the people he'd hoped to question regarding Gov. Sarah Palin's firing in July of former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.

Some of the final witnesses include seven state employees, including the governor's chief of staff, who lost a court fight to kill subpoenas Branchflower obtained through the Alaska Senate Judiciary Committee to compel their testimony.

The seven this week are answering a list of questions known as interrogatories. The answers are submitted under oath.

Another key witness, Todd Palin, the governor's husband, also is answering a list of questions in writing, and has a deadline of today to turn them in."

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/549113.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I posted a paper on transmitting diseases via saliva. You want some more from NEJM? As for the polling, I know all that. You are missing my point that it's better for McCain if Obama is "clearly in the lead" the weekend before November 4. That way more youths decide not to vote.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

MarkInAustin:

The differences in individual polls is why looking at the sites that analyze the polls rather than simply reporting just one is best.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Do you have any proof she did?

Since both reps seem to not be taking it seriously I have no reason to think she did.

Also in terms of transmitting any disease I have never seen any studies as to the hazards of aural sex.

"...you don't think she really spit on it?

Posted by: MarkInAustin"

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

jgh2, while guilt by association is a logical fallacy, who the President of the United States will seek counsel from (or, maybe just as important, who he is trying to throw under the bus) is certainly an legitimate campaign issue.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

No doubt, if Obama maintains his lead on election day, that would be bad for McCain. Being clearly in the lead the weekend before, not so bad. Also, regardless of Romney trying to joke about it, you don't think she really spit on it?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Ok MarkInAustin.

I guess I can say I that it may be better for Obama that he is clearly in the lead.

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

MarInAustin:

You might want to go back to Politico and check the updates.

"UPDATE: Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom emails: "You should have seen what she did to the chair."

UPDATE: McCaskill spokeswoman Maria Speiser says the exchange began when Romney said, "You don't have an ear infection, do you?" and that McCaskill was joking back in response."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCaskills_edge.html

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

MarkinAustin. Listen or read Palin's rhetoric. That is logical fallacy. That was the whole point to what I wrote.

Posted by: jgh2 | October 8, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

nowanna3, Zogby has Obama ahead by only 2 points (within the margain of error). Regardless, I said that it may be better for McCain if Obama is clearly in the lead.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

jgh2, you had my up until your "States border Illinois" leap. That is a logical fallacy.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

MarkinAustin:

It is hard to look at the sites that aggregate polls and the various snap polls and conclude McCain is doing well at the moment.

While it is not Nov. 4th yet, the window for turning things around is narrowing.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

seemstome, what do you think about Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill handing Mitt Romney an earpiece the guests use to hear on MSNBC: "I spit on this before I put it in."?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCaskills_edge.html

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Continuing on with the Sarah Palin logic. Obama knew of Ayers. Ayers was in the Weather Underground 40 or so years ago. Ayers is an Education Professor for the University of Illinois. Therefore the University of Illinois pals around with terrorists. The University of Illinois is a State school therefore the State of Illinois has poor judgment and may condone terrorism. Since Illinois borders Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri, Iowa and Wisconsin, they are all guilty by association. Following this logic (or lack of) so are the rest of the States in the lower 48. Only Hawaii and Alaska don't border other states. Now I see where she's coming from. Those are the only 2 states that don't condone terrorism. If you ask a wolf from Alaska about terrorism his answer might be different, though.

Posted by: jgh2 | October 8, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

The only "poll" that counts is on November 4. In a way, it's probably better if Obama is 11 points ahead of McCain right before the election.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

"Gallup Daily: Obama’s Lead Over McCain Expands to 11
52% share of the vote is Obama’s highest to date"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111040/Gallup-Daily-Obamas-Lead-Over-McCain-Expands.aspx

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Assuming it did even happen, how do we know that Palin and/or Secret Service even heard him? I think you made that point too. As far as I know, it is not illegal to threaten Ayers (or even a Presidential candidate) when there's no possible way to carry out the threat. But, then again, I'm no lawyer.

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

MarkinAustin:

It's a given we can agree that a "kill him" comment should be directed against Osama bin Laden. Frankly, though I despise his tactics and politics and doubt his repentance, I really don't think it's even appropriate for someone to shout "kill him" regarding Ayers at a Palin rally. That's not the point, though -- I don't think it happened at all, and it's being stated here as gospel that it did. So, show me the tape and shut me up.

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 8, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin and John McCain are not touched by the infirmities of the people. How can they be? John McCain has had everything handed to him. He doesn't know the struggle of the people and Palin uses the government check book like her own personal account. I am sure they didn't even know gas had gone up in price, until they were told. I mean, you don't know how many houses you own. It shows that they are clearly desperate for a win at any cost. Palin has so many skeletons in her closet, some that have not even toppled over yet, but will, if she is ever allowed to get in the white house. Why would you make remarks against someone who could pull your stuff out of the closet and shut you down from your political career altogether? McCain and Palin clearly don't have a leg to stand on, so they use what they believe is a sure bet, and that's hatred. They believe they know the American people so well, that they can still use the hate card and win. That shows how old and behind the times, McCain really is. Since you don't have a clue about economics or anything else that's important to the American people, just do what you have been doing in your campaign and debates, repeat after Obama. Take his slogan as yours, his ideas and plans as yours. But for God's sake, no one is on the hate trip anymore, except for people like you, old and stuck in the past. It's all about change. "Say it ain't so, Joe."

Posted by: wisdom3 | October 8, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I thought the "Kill him!" comment was directed at William Ayers, you know, the unrepentant terrorist? How about Osama bin Laden, can we express a desire to kill him?

Posted by: MarkInAustin | October 8, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Again, the blogosphere has lost its collective mind. Sarah Palin appeared Monday at a rally at Coachman Park in Clearwater, Florida, and there were approximately 4,500 attendees. According to a single Washington Post blogger, Dana Milbank, when Palin brought up William Ayers, someone in the crowd yelled "kill him." Since Monday, this has been blogged and has mutated into entries to the effect that Palin was inciting the crowd to kill Obama and worse.

Ok, folks, leave Fox News out for this discussion -- are you telling me that Olbermann, Matthews, Couric, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc. wouldn't have this as a lead story if it actually occurred?? All that I've seen is that AP this morning reported that it had occurred and attributed it to guess whom? This single WP blog post. Let's try more logic. Does anyone think that if such a statement was audible to Palin, it would not be audible to her Secret Service detail? Does anyone think this guy wouldn't have had at least a visit with the Secret Service? Does anyone think that if it really happened that Obama/Biden wouldn't be spinning it to the press with gusto? In fact, why wouldn't Obama, in the ultimate zinger moment last night, ask McCain to agree to renounce any speeches that incite threats?

I suspect that it didn't happen or, if it did, it was grossly exagerrated by Milbanks. I will say that other bloggers have stated it's out there on YouTube but I haven't seen the link and I understand YouTube videos are not necessarily reliable. I also was told that it was on a news report but no one could give me the network, channel or other information. So, please correct me on this -- or stop propagating this baloney.

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 8, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Palin is an uneducated idiot clearly doesn't hurt her in the eyes of the uneducated idiots who actually think she isn't a total disaster.

I own a pit bull and I've never met a pit bull anywhere near as ugly and nasty as Sara. Send her back to Alaska and give Alaska back to Russia. They can have Texas too.

And let's be clear - John McCain's no "hero." Gary Glitter was in prison in Vietnam too, and I'm not voting for him either.

Posted by: stan3 | October 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

VOTE FOR OBAMA WILL ASCENDED NEW BREED OF RADICALISM,HIS SHADY PAST AND TIES WITH TERRORIST WIL AYERS , ANTI AMERICAN AND BIGOT REV WHRIGHT AND L. FARAKKHAM WILL HAVE MORE VOICE WITH FULL FORCE OF TURNING AMERICAN VALUES UPSIDE DOWN.
CHEERS, CHEERS... CHEERS

Posted by: inmanila69 | October 8, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Palin is becoming irrelevant. She hasn't fooled anyone with half a thinking brain into believing she is anywhere near ready to assume the duties of the vice president let alone the presidency. All she has to work with is stirring hate and divisiveness as her current speeches point out so clearly. At a time when the economy is crashing down around us she offers nothing.

McCain's rash impulses are coming back to haunt him. He made a cynical choice in selecting her and now he is paying for it.

When John McCain looses he only has John McCain to blame.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 8, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Palin is acting like a rabid pit-bull at the rallies organized by McCain.
Her security force acts in concert with the local "Gestapo" to sequester and openly harass and threaten members of the press.
Her inflammatory rhetoric is designed to bring out violent and bigoted behavior.
I never thought I would ever see it's like in this country. Can this be the person who would be president of the united states?
If McCain wins, personal freedom and tolerance is lost.

Posted by: seemstome | October 8, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Palin's husband was a member of a society which advocated Alaska's secession from the United States of America. Does that mean she was aiding and abetting this group?
Does that make her an associate of someone who advocated treason?

Posted by: seemstome | October 8, 2008 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Palin should be applauded for finally opening up and also for recognizing that if she is not tough enough to deal with (in her view) unfair journalists, she is not tough enough to be VP, and deal with both domestic and foreign journalists. She has engendered enthusiasm among conservatives precisely because she is very consrvative, and they hope it signals that a McCain Administration would be at least as conservative as the Bush Administration. Unofortunately, this tends to turn off independent voters who might have otherwise voted for McCain.

Posted by: Sutter | October 8, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

McCain is showing ominous signs of how power has corrupted his mind.
Over the past few days Sarah Palin has incited crowds to dangerous levels of hatred usually seen at K.K.K. meetings.
She openly attacked the press as if it was somehow Un-American in questioning her.
After one rally in Clearwater a black reporter was harassed by the crowd.
McCain elicited one response of "Terrorist"
during a town hall meeting.
The Palin crowd said "kill him" referring to Obama.
This same ugly strategy has been employed by every dictator in modern times. Fear, Intimidation of the press and False Patriotism were Mussolini’s tools. Hitler used these and race hatred as well.
We can't be timid in condemning McCain for these actions or civil liberty will go the same way as the economy.

Posted by: seemstome | October 8, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Forthrightedness? (p.s. that's not a word)

Posted by: scout_wife | October 8, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Are there enough voters outside the GOP base taking Palin seriously, to ensure a victory for McCain ?

Doubtful.

Palin is young enough that at some point in the future, the country may be ready for her on another national ticket.

But unless there's 5 % or more of voters who are being polled and lying about supporting Obama, I don't see how McCain has any chance on November 4th.

Posted by: mathas | October 8, 2008 7:06 AM | Report abuse

Thank goodness it looks like empty-dressed and bobble-headed Sarah Palin and AIP Todd will be FREE to go back to Alaska after November 4th, 2008. I'm guessing it's then they'll honor their subpoenas, and if not, then maybe catch up with THEIR old 'buddy' Joe Vogler, from the Alaskan Independence Party who hates the USA, and maybe while Sarah is back home, she can catch up with HER Pastor Thomas Muthee, and he can give Sarah another 'exorcism' in the Assemblies of God church--that's if Muthee isn't witch-hunting in Kenya. Or maybe Palin can plan a nice wedding for her baby mama daughter and her daughter's baby daddy--Heck, Sarah will have so much downtime, that maybe she can stop in and see an OLD friend Ted Stephens whose currently on trial for his problems. Ah, those 'associations' of the Palin's. As for John McCain's plans after November 4th, maybe he can hold another get together in one of his 13 homes with G. Gordon Liddy-convicted Watergate felon who said all federal agents should be killed--sounds like a domestic terrorism threat to me...and maybe Johnny B. Good can go spend some time with buddy Joey Bananas, or maybe visit his OLD buddy Charles Keating--Maybe even Cindy can find some downtime also--maybe count up the millions her father made illegally with the help of his mob associates--sweet men like Mayer Lansky, Kemper Marley, and Gus Greenbaum....ah, those associations (lol).

Posted by: Lena_1961 | October 8, 2008 7:05 AM | Report abuse

To bad McCain has to debate on his own. What a mess last night. Sarah did a better job than him. http://www.bop-o-rama.com
It looks like Obama has this wrapped up.

Posted by: acarponzo | October 8, 2008 6:44 AM | Report abuse

As Palin is freed, she comes off even worse. Todd was told Not to honor the supena because it could cause a tidal wave that Johnny's staff couldn't fix.

Palin is carrying more and more luggage as the press meets her. Fox will ask pansy questions so it goes to show how protected she still is.

Her base of old hags and joe sixpacs are giving up by the thousands. They seek her for entertainment not to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Posted by: sunliteco | October 8, 2008 5:41 AM | Report abuse

Joe Vogler founder of the Alaska Independence Party -- a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years -- once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed the American flag as a "damn flag."
At another point, Volger advocated renouncing allegiance to the United States

Posted by: yvonneweston | October 8, 2008 4:50 AM | Report abuse

How Palin makes sense is that patriarchy itself has to flame out completely for a balance to come. She represents a certain sort of patriarchalized woman who is given a forum by Papa in which she demonstrates more balls than Papa and thinks this is strength, competitive domination, winning. But all those are patriarchy's values. Truly we are growing out of that phase on Earth. Women who are true to their natures, aligned with their own inner authority and natural authority, do not need to attack, do not need to compete with women for the attention and services of men. There is a certain maturity and capacity for social spiritual collaboration. There is courage that is not all about aggression, contest, dominance. Sarah Palin is not there yet. She's still throwing away all her natural authority to show how manly she can be, meanly manly, appealing to her own kind and alienating all the others.

Posted by: GaiasChild | October 8, 2008 4:35 AM | Report abuse

welcome to the WHITE HOUSE
PRESIDENT OBAMA WITH CABINET SECRETARIES
AS FOLLOWS;

TREASURE SECRETARY- BARNIE FRANK
FINANCE SECRETARY- SEN SCHUMER
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY- WILL AYERS
SECRETARY OF STATE-L FARAKKHAN
WHITE HOUSE PASTOR- REV. WHRIGHT
PRESS SECRETARY- AL SHARPTON
WHITE HOUSE SPOKESMAN- JESSE JACKSON
ECONOMIC ADVISORS- F RAINES, TONY REZKO,BARNIE FRANK,SEN CHRIS DODD
WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL ANTHEM- RAP VERSION OF STAR SPANGLE bANNER BY P. DIDDY
Lyrics rearranged by LUDACRIS,JAYZ,DMX

CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION- ACORN

i CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THESE PEOPLE IN ACTION TOWARDS OUR COUNTRY'S PROSPERITY.
Cheers....cheers.cheers....

Posted by: inmanila69 | October 8, 2008 4:28 AM | Report abuse

There ya go again, Palin, misunderestimating Obama's forthrightedness.

Posted by: pennycentury | October 8, 2008 4:14 AM | Report abuse

THEIR ONLY LETTING PALIN SPEAK BECAUSE THEY WANT HER TO TALK ABOUT HER ANTI-AMERICAN COMMENTS SHE'S SAYING ABOUT OBAMA. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? PALIN CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT HER DISGRACEFUL ATTACK BUT CAN'T ANSWER QUESTION ABOUT THE ISSUES. WHEN REPORTERS WANTED HER TO SPEAK ISSUES SHE COULDN'T SPEAK, NOW IT ALL ABOUT NONSENSE SHE'S GIVING INTERVIEWS AND SPEAKING TO THE PRESS. HILLARY CLINTON PUT 18 MILLION CRACKS IN THE GLASS CEILING AND PALIN PUSHED WOMEN BACK 50 YEARS. EVERY INCH OF HER IS CONTROLLED BY MCCAIN'S CAMPAIGN. THEY TELL HER WHAT TO SAY WHEN TO SAY IT AND HOW TO SAY IT. HOW CAN PALIN STAND UP FOR AMERICANS WHEN SHE CAN'T EVEN TAKE A STAND FOR HERSELF?

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 8, 2008 3:45 AM | Report abuse

"TERROIST, KILL HIM, TREASON," ARE RANTS FROM SUPPORTERS AT MCCAIN/PALIN RALLY'S. I THINK ITS A LITTLE TO LATE FOR PALIN TO START SPEAKING. THE ONLY REASON WHY THERE LETTING HER SPEAK IS TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE HATE SHE'S PREACHING ON THE STUMP. IF ITS ABOUT THE ISSUES, THEY WANT TO SILENCE HER BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHATS SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. MCCAIN/PALIN IS A LOSING TICKET AND SHOULD LOSE.

Posted by: amosdefnails | October 8, 2008 3:40 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin Freed?

Soon, she'll be flying back north for the winter.

She'll resume her part time weekend job, selling refrigerators to Eskimos

Posted by: TruthWalksOnWater | October 8, 2008 3:25 AM | Report abuse

"More on Palin's tax returns (Updated)"

"Under a post, Tax Profs Agree: Gov. Palin's Tax Returns Are Wrong, a couple tax law professors write that the Palins appear to have underpaid taxes. And they're not buying a letter issued by the campaign last week from Roger Olsen, a Washington, D.C., tax attorney, who defends the Palins' returns, including handling of per diem payments to Alaska's first family.

Writes John Bogdanski, professor of law at Lewis & Clark: "There is no serious debate (at least, none that has been brought to our attention) about the fact that at least the amounts paid for the children's travel -- $24,728.83 in 2007, according to the Washington Post -- are taxable. The campaign's tax lawyer has got at least that much of the law, and perhaps more, wrong."

In a later update, Bogdanski unearths the State of Alaska's posted policy on long-term per diem. He thinks the state failed to follow its own rules when it didn't include diem payments last year as taxable income for the governor.

This document is a potential blockbuster. It establishes two important facts:

(1) The state has long acknowledged that it had a duty to determine whether Palin's "tax home" was really Anchorage and Wasilla, a conclusion which would have required that her per diems be reported as taxable income.

(2) The state knew that when an employee is planning to spend a majority of her time on state business in the Anchorage area for a four-year period, Anchorage is the employee's "tax home," and per diems for time spent in the "tax home" are taxable income.

So why didn't Alaska officials follow the state's official policies and report Palin's per diems as taxable income on her W-2? Only they can answer that."

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132324

Posted by: nowanna3 | October 8, 2008 3:04 AM | Report abuse

How come no one has asked the candidates about unwavering American support for Israel - Everyone assumes that Israel has a right to exist. This also appears to be a pre-condition for any talks with "evil doer" nations. The West started a war with Muslims with the illegal creation of the Jewish state (albeit with a "UN" mandate) and paid for it with 3,000 American lives in 2001. Walk away from Israel, walk away from supporting undemocratic regimes in the Middle East and the terrorist pain will disappear. America can always support democratically elected regimes like Hamas and look credible in the eys of Muslims but they won't

America needs to understand this..Sep 11 was just a small skirmish in this war with the Muslims started in 1947. If killing innocent civilians is terrorism like America claims what is Hiroshima and Nagasaki then?


Stop the self righteousness and the hypocrisy and the world will be a better place.

Posted by: rrmenon | October 8, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin apparently never mastered the English language: "It makes you wonder about the forthrightedness (NOT A WORD), the truthfulness of the plans (PLANS DONT HAVE TRUTHFULLNESS, PEOPLE DO)that he is telling America (TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOT AMERICA) in regards to the economic recovery because that is first and foremost on American's minds," she said. (WHAT !!??)
FORTHRIGHTEDNESS IS NOT A WORD.

Posted by: gregp1 | October 8, 2008 2:38 AM | Report abuse

The truth about Palin pallin... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its
Unbelievable!!! Pls share this with yr Repub friends.. if they are patriots they should condemn her for this

Posted by: chill45 | October 8, 2008 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Why are we screwing around with complaints and analysis of the corporate candidates? There really is not much difference other than political affiliation. They both voted to saddle future generations with debt, gave Prince Henry extensive powers over the money supply, are planning to sustain the occupations in the oil possessing countries of the middle east, intending to drill for oil in restricted areas, revive the nuclear power industries, have made small gestures to using alternative energy, but the public disapproval of the bailout, excuse me, rescue package, was a speed bump on the way to the control of the populace.I just don't see an appreciable difference. I'm voting for the best American running for the PEOPLE, Ralph Nader.

Posted by: dairyworms | October 8, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Gee; I wonder why Fox news gets the interviews? This will be 3 out of 4.
Must be because they're fair & balanced.

Posted by: stbdtac | October 8, 2008 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Palin is not keeping Tina in business. Tina Fey just won a handful of Emmy's for her work on a hugely successful TV show. Going back to play Palin is a burden and by anyones standards, slumming. Only a completely self-centered bimbo would think Tina gave a s**t about playing Palin.

Posted by: thebobbob | October 8, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Did she seriously just sat that about Obama? "and just being able to answer very candidly a simple question". Did nobody notice that??

Anyway, she is a talking points machine - http://mypalininterview.com/

Posted by: jay16 | October 8, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Dear Writer, congratulations on your recent graduating from college. You really need to do better than this: "...William Ayers, the 1960s radical who hosted an event for Barack Obama in 1995 but is not a close adviser to the Democratic nominee."

Not a close adviser? The implication is that you must consider Ayers some sort of adviser. I hope Sarah and Tucker thanked you for your work on behalf of the campaign. TPM calls this the "Tire Swing."

You should be ashamed.

Posted by: bakeliteradio | October 8, 2008 1:49 AM | Report abuse

We've heard from social scientists that there appear to be physiological differences between conservatives and liberals. Reading some of these posts, I'm wondering if the convoluted, often disconnected syntax used by both GW Bush and Governor Palin may simply be an expression of this supposed conservative physiology.

Posted by: dogmo | October 8, 2008 1:48 AM | Report abuse

This woman got her 15 minutes of fame.

Isn't that enough?

Posted by: rob_miller_2008 | October 8, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

"but in terms of judgment and in terms of being able to answer questions forthrightly, it has two different parts to this, that judgment and that truthfulness and just being able to answer very candidly a simple question"

Palin, you should apply that to yourself.

Posted by: R3N364D3 | October 8, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Watch a video of McCain dropping the F-Bomb
in a video http://www.mccanes.com

So I just saw a new poll come out....Dream tickets for the president. Huckabee/Palin comes out 5 to 1 over McCain/Palin. Perhaps the RNC should switch out McCain for Huckabee, they might have a better chance at the white house this year cause I just can't see Obama loosing at this point. The problem is news stations are already calling the race for Obama.....switch it up and have a chance, or should we all stay home and just let Obama take the white house? see poll at http://www.mccanes.com/watchdebatevp.html

Funny Huckabee was just recently named Featured Debator of the year by WathcDebate.com, ironic that McCain would bomb so bad right after the runner up wins debater of the year. http://www.huckabeeshow.com

Posted by: pastor123 | October 8, 2008 1:27 AM | Report abuse

Well, at least we continue to see that Sarah Palin is completely unable to articulate herself. On top of that, she continues her hate-mongering and fear-mongering that has become the staple of the Republican party. How, I ask, can anyone be so blind, no naive, to really think that a man who has been INVOLVED, and BEEN A CAUSE OF, every major economic calamity America has faced in the last 30 years could really lead us out of our worst?

John McCain and Sarah Palin - RIGHT FOR EACH OTHER - WRONG FOR AMERICA

Posted by: MSquared | October 8, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

RobbyS,
your pretzel logic has me confused, but then again you're a republican bootlicker.
Regardless if he named article 1 rather than article 2, Palin is a mess. She has no clue what to say other than what she can remember from the crash course in politics they gave her.
Cheney is a capitalist scumbag hididng behind the American flag. He made millions from this war.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 8, 2008 1:24 AM | Report abuse

nacnudbob:

Palin knows what she knows, which is something that Joe Biden demonstrated that he did not, when he showed he had failed to read the U.S. Constitution recently. But maybe he could start with the Senate rules, which would tell him that only they keep the Vice-president from taking part in debate or actually appointing committee members etc, powers that usually rest with a presiding officer. Biden is pissed because Cheney is simply using the power of influence in the way that Lyndon Johnson only hoped to use. If Johnson had had in fact the confidence of President Kennedy he could have done Kennedy a lot of good, but Bobby kept that from happening.

Posted by: RobbyS | October 8, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

PALIN: MS HUBRIS, USA
In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride and arrogance; it is often associated with a lack of knowledge combined with a lack of humility. An accusation of hubris often implies that suffering or punishment will follow, similar to the occasional pairing of hubris and nemesis in the Greek world. The proverb "pride goes before a fall" is thought to sum up the modern definition of hubris. In reference to someone being in hubrity: hubrity is a fulfillment of being hubristic or a continual behavior of being prideful. Victor in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein exudes hubris in order to become a great scientist, but is eventually regretting this previous desire. Faustus in Christopher Marlowe's play Dr. Faustus exudes hubris, all the way until his final minutes of life.

Posted by: nacnudbob | October 8, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

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