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Snap Polls: Obama Wins and Two-Thirds Want No More Debates

By Jon Cohen
Barack Obama completed a three-debate sweep on Wednesday night, at least according to snap polls by CBS News and CNN.

CBS's poll of previously uncommitted voters showed Obama the overall winner, and the one who was more convincing on health care. Obama also came out on top on "sharing your values."

Obama also beat John McCain in CNN's poll of debate watchers -- more Democrats than Republicans tuned in -- by a large, nearly 2 to 1 margin.

Most striking in the CNN data is the progress Obama has made from debate to debate.

Fifty-one percent of debate watchers thought he won the first showdown, that ticked up to 54 percent last time and to 58 percent in the final contest. The senator from Illinois also had increasingly strong ratings as the more likable of the two presidential hopefuls, the one who expressed his views more clearly and as the "stronger leader." McCain only progressed on the question of who spent more time on the attack -- not necessarily a positive development for the GOP nominee.

The CBS poll did, however, contain some bright spots for McCain: Before and after the debate he held the advantage as the one better suited to handle a crisis, and as the one less apt to raise taxes.

As for more debates, two-thirds of debate watchers told CNN that three was enough.

By Web Politics Editor  |  October 15, 2008; 11:53 PM ET
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Obama supporters act as if the polls are a true reflection of what's going to happen on November 4th. When you don't have an actual record to run on ... and all you can do is point out problems, and blame others, as Obama has, you have to rely on gimmicks that have nothing to do with your actual ability to lead ... like accusations of racism ad nauseam ... like early voting ...busing and indoctrinating homeless people on the way to the polls ... photo ops with big crowds ... spending 4 to 1 on advertising ... having the media in the tank ... having Hollywood in the tank, having Acorn in the tank ... and, having 98% of all black voters in the tank. But, all of these things are nothing more than a fabricated perception. They have nothing to do with a person's experience, or ability to lead. They just reveal a candidate who will say, or do anything to get elected. That's why the Obamabots are so worried. That's why Obama is telling his disciples not to get over confident. That's why the Obama campaign tries real hard to make it look like Obama has already won ... just like they did in the run against Hillary in the primaries. I happen to believe there are legions of people who are going to vote for McCain on November 4th ... unlike the 'in your face' Obama supporters, November 4th is when the McCain supporters will express themselves. Keep America safe and strong, elect McCain/Palin on November 4th.

Posted by: howard521 | October 22, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin are both criminals.

1. OCT 2001 McCain on Letterman false ANTHRAX propaganda to lead the USA to war vs Iraq.

2. Palin using Yahoo to avoid detection by FREEDOM of INFORMATION act.

no backup, no security, both crimes for the gov.
That doesnt count the lies about abuse of power, breaking the public trust and the ugly one about making her employees break the law and the public trust. Beauty is as beauty does.
She's a criminal.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 17, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

too many typos.

Let the GOP run the universe.

Posted by: ottothewise | October 17, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

First of all, look in to the studies done on religion and IQ. It goes a little like this; The more religious someone is, the lower their intelligence.

CORRECTED the poster's spelling. Ah well. It the thought that counts.

check this out www.pocm.INFO

Posted by: ottothewise | October 17, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

First of all, look in to the studies done on religion and IQ. It goes a little like this; The more religious someone is, the lower their intellegence.

Maybe that was in the USA.

check this out www.pocm.INFO

Posted by: ottothewise | October 17, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between the Taliban and the people who are changing laws to prevent others from their civil rights?

Posted by: ottothewise | October 17, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Lots of folks have slapped around rnmisback for his/her comments. Slap away, I say, he/she deserves it!

To my point: I am a committed Christian, and I don't need rnmisback's ignorant, so-narrow-minded-you-can-see-through-a-keyhole-with-both-eyes distorted version of Christian theology to base my faith upon. The fact that the abortion issue is complex enough to test the patience and intellects of the most brilliant AND faith-committed theologians is apparently an "inconvenient truth" to someone who has a hot-line to God. Apparently difference of opinion on a very difficult issue is disallowed. Oh, sorry, I must be one of those elitist intellectuals who actually THINKS about my faith. What was I thinking?????

We used to sing "You'll know we are Christians by our love." Rnmisback must be singing "You'll know I am a parody of a Christian by my arrogance, ignorance, and hate."

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | October 16, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse


mccain is a war criminal
he confessed on tape
he bombed civies and babies...
he also sold out his fellow POW's
and killed >100 on the forrestal
POW = karma is a biotch

obviously our educational system is flawed, you are a perfect example of that...
so is mccain...557/560, and only go in/out because daddy and grand-dad were admirals...

save our country, elect obama
my flag flies upside down til then...

Posted by: Arthur5 | October 16, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

to-rnmisback, please go back into your cave, you're much to sheltered (and unintelligent) to post your useless redneck opinions on the internet.

Posted by: 66glxy | October 16, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse


Wow, you are a joke. First of all, look in to the studies done on religion and IQ. It goes a little like this; The more religious someone is, the lower their intellegence. Second of all, you're the reason that I'm voting for Obama. If everyone voting for McCaine is as sheltered and delusional as you, you shouldn't even be able to vote. I'm so sick of all of you redneck, racist, war loving, change fearing idiots that think you're so patriotic when really you're just plain stupid. Keep your useless opinions off of the internet, you make americans look bad.

Posted by: 66glxy | October 16, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I love to read the "Christian" "pro-life" crowd whine about denying a woman the right to choose. These "Christians" are always first in line to dream up new death penalty crimes and first in line to back Bush's illegal war for oil in which tens of thousands have died. They think they can go to church on Sunday and be "saved" then go out the rest of the week and be as wicked, mean-spirited and hateful as possible. I imagine that when they finally arrive at the Pearly Gates they will find them locked.

Posted by: Pearl77 | October 16, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

To rnmisback, I think that you should take a minute to actually consider what your version of America would look like. According to your post, America should consist of a single religion being taught in every school across the country, without exception. Our children would grow up learning the national religion of your choosing. Your religion should also form the moral foundation of our country and our laws should conform to that religion. Everyone should believe what you believe, if not, they would be breaking the law and therefore, punished. There will be no freedom of choice or religion in your America. People won't be able to choose what religion they practice or what religion their children are taught, it will be your religion. Women will not have the freedom of choice over their own bodies. Your religion will choose what they do with their bodies. Abstinence will become our only form of sexual education. No other education is needed. Pregnancy will be mandated. If you become pregnant by whatever means, you will remain pregnant until you either deliver your baby or die trying. In your America, it's better that a woman die than the cells,fetus, or baby she's carrying. Women will have no reproductive freedom. They will not have the capacity to make those decisions on their own. Their duly elected officials will make those decisions for them, based on the national religion of course. In your post, you stated that our education system is propaganda. What would your education system look like? What would you teach our children? Would they only learn your religion and how to conform to your rules? Will they have the freedom to question what they are taught or will they simply be required to accept what they are mandated to learn? What is that if not propaganda? You should check into the education system of Germany under Hitler for some light reading on propaganda and schools. In your America, you and your religion will choose what people learn, who they can marry, how they live and reproduce. It seems that you want your religion to dictate every aspect of people's lives, whether they believe what you believe or not. This sounds dangerously like a theocracy. Hmmm, what other countries around the world have established theocracies that we can look at as examples...hmmm...I think the first one that pops to mind is Iran. I believe that Afganistan also has a type of theocracy where religion guides the governing of people and the subjugation of women. Is this the plan? If it is, I need to get out the cardboard boxes and packing tape. One of the reasons people came to this country was religious freedom, but apparently someone forgot to mention that this meant "only your religion".

Posted by: kjbogart | October 16, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

To rnmisback: You and others who think as you do, are the reason that other people abroad think that americans are stupid. Do you really believe that Senator Obama would get this far in a presidential election, in the U.S.A., if he has, as you say, "vested intrests overseas", and "supports those who have issues with us". What us are u talking about? IF its the U.S.A. that your refering to, then say it, unless your talking about another group that feels threatned buy the senator.I guess that you dont have much faith in the justice department or the justice system period, if you think that a man could go this far in a national election with intrests as you state! If you have an issue with Senator Obama, you should stick to the facts when voicing your opinions about him, because otherwise , you look STUPID! Your blog also speaks of liberals from the left and right;What Id like to know ,is, what the hell is a liberal from the right? Keep that up and your going to piss off alot of conservatives. You spaek of liberals using "buzz terms", such as "bigots"...but did you realize that you used the "buzz term", bigotry, twice in your blog!! Maybe you should have just stayed asleep! Roe vs. Wade is the law of the land, and if it gets overturned, then it wont be anymore, but is this the issue that should decide who our next president should be? Thats just a question, but for me, id like to be able to have a job where im making a decent living to provide for my kids, that i have, and the ones that i plan on having before i can even start to think about the issue of roe v. wade! To end, rnmisback, i think that i can safely conclude that your not a conservative!...Your a nutty fanatic!!

Posted by: sparky3272 | October 16, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

McCain looked MAD in the debate! I thought he was going to start foaming at the mouth.

Looked like somebody swapped his Preperation-H for Icy-Hot.

McCain needs to go to the proctologist to get his brain examined.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 16, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

I just hope that now all women understand what McCain stands for and understand that in general he is women hater with exceptions for women American Idol or beauty pageant like. Now I perfectly understand why he cheated his first wife and left her for Cindy Barbie. He just refuses that some woman could have health problems. It is only "poor men" who are allowed to be sick and then pampered by their wives.
I am glad debates are over because I could not listen old grumpy grandpa anymore. Now only last step and it is go and vote for Barack Obama

Posted by: Jarda1 | October 16, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

A lot of time was spent on dealing with negative campaigning. It seemed like McCain was making himself out to be a victim, a position that resonates with certain kinds of voters.

Posted by: xira | October 16, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Re: No more polls

Interesting: Polls are polls; CNN is CNN.

Posted by: Premier | October 16, 2008 8:43 AM | Report abuse


Forget John Kerry. John McCain now holds the Olympic record for the most flip-flops in a campaign.

1.Experience counts, then he picks Wasilly Sarah.
2.He is an honorable man and will run an honorable campaign. Then he accuses Obama of sexually corrupting young children.
3.He is for deregulation of banking before he is against it.
4.He is against off-shore drilling then he just can't get enough of it.
5.He hugs George Bush and then says he is nothing like him (except for 90% of the time.)
6.He says he is different from Obama and then he steals his campaign slogan.(some of Obama's signs are missing, too.)
7.McCain claims the fundamentals of the economy are strong then says it's a severe crisis.
8.He says he has postponed his campaign and rushes off to Washington but he continues to run attack ads.
9.He looses his pit bull to stir up racial and ethnic hatred and then corrects a woman who calls Obama an Arab.
10.Lastly, and most importantly, He tells Dave Letterman he must cancel his appearance at the last moment to handle the financial crisis only to be caught red handed doing damage control after the Palin interview with Couric.
Hell hath no fury like a Letterman scorned.

John Kerry would have been steamrolled if he acted like this.

Posted by: seemstome | October 16, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

A mighy thank you to skyblue5600!!
RvW is indeed a very important decision that should NOT be overturned. I would be heartbroken if my daughter were brutally raped and forced to either a) go through a pregnancy that would further scar her psychologically; or b) try to find some back-alley hack like in my mother's day. And yes, I have had to make that decision myself.
As for religion? I am not now, nor have I ever been, christian. Growing up in mid-america and being FORCED to observe christian holidays with song and absence from school while ignoring the ones from my own faith (Baha'i), often left me bitter (and praying for self patience)about the process. Unfortunately, for many of non-christian faith, this practice of ONLY observing christian holidays while ignoring/dismissing other religions is still the norm. If you want christian group prayer in school, you ought to send your child to a christian based school. Public schools should be exempt of ALL religious holidays (yes, I think 12/25 should be a school day!) and only acknowledge national holidays. Otherwise, where is the seperation of church (religion) and state (in this case, school)?
And to rnmisback, if a candidate is pro-life, then great! However, teaching abstinence only doesn't work, especially when it convinces girls that boys only like put-outs, not brains (ie. Sarah's teen daughter). Education of sexual reproduction covers not only the short-term (put-out), but also the long-term (brains win hands down). Your preferred candidates fail completely on this. Not surprising from the bottoms of their classes.

Posted by: Sarayntrix | October 16, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

McCain comes across as angry, sarcastic and old.

Why ? Because he is.

And if McCain doesn't want to be compared to Bush, he shouldn't have gone on TV and said he supported Bush 90 % of the time.

McCain doesn't seem to grasp the concept that things he says are recorded and can be retrieved.

I call it the "Allen" effect. Senator George Allen, smearing that kid (a Webb supporter) at a campaign event in 2006 with the taunt "maccaca", while that kid, in fact a native born AMERICAN(it was so nice of Allen to welcome the kid to America), and a poli sci student at U Va, pointed a video camera at him.

What did Allen think the kid was pointing at him, a toaster oven ?

Old, angry, detached, out of ideas and out of gas.

McCain's long service to country is unquestioned, but his time has passed.

We need a younger man with more energy and ideas to assume the awesome responsibilities of the WH.

Obama 08 !

Posted by: mathas | October 16, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Who won the presidential debate at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York?


Posted by: usadblake | October 16, 2008 7:40 AM | Report abuse in Europe and the rest of the world we are all giving a big sigh of relief that the hell inflicted by Republicans will soon be over. We read comments like those from mmisback and ponder what sort of planet they are on - just horrible people. Lets hope America's moral, political, and most of all, financial decline under the Republicans and soon to administered by the Dems will provide the stimulus for it to be transformed into a humbler and better global citizen.

Posted by: graeme801 | October 16, 2008 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Joe the plumber, Bob the builder, Jill the nurse will end up paying more taxes whereas Obama the politician, Osama the killer, Ayers the professor and Hussein the terrorist will have a free reign over the country

Posted by: vs11 | October 16, 2008 6:07 AM | Report abuse

Joe the plumber, Bob the builder, Jill the nurse will end up paying more taxes whereas Obama the politician, Osama the killer and Hussein the terrorist will have a free reign over the country

Posted by: vs11 | October 16, 2008 6:05 AM | Report abuse

You have just called me a murderer, rnmisback, and I don't appreciate it. I hope I stand for many women when I say we don't relish the idea of terminating a pregnancy or as you would call it 'murdering our children'. But I believe Roe vs Wade was a very important decision. I believe that until the child inside you grows a brain which is around the 5th to 6th week, it is not a sentient self aware being with a soul. I had my abortion at the 4th week. If I had gone past that date, it is highly likely I would have gone along with the pregnancy. Anyways, enough about my own experience, I do not need to explain it. I do hope you will be more open minded rnmisback, especially when it comes to liberals. I believe Obama has a lot to bring to the table. He is a thoughtful man whose aims are to improve our rather sad foreign relation ties and the sagging power of the US. He wants to create a healthcare plan that is comparable to those of other well-developed countries. If we are to be maintain our status as a superpower, we must begin taking care of our citizens better than we are now. Personally, I believe that in terms of exports, education, and healthcare, we are lacking and it will insidiously catch up with us as other nations around us rise to power equal to ours or greater. You speak of religion needing to be in our schools, and I think that will weaken the schools even more. This nation cannot call itself christian if it is to be a melting pot of many cultures. With different cultures also comes different religions. You cannot force one religion and its beliefs on the populace.

Posted by: skyblue5600 | October 16, 2008 5:18 AM | Report abuse

I wonder why neither candidate was asked why the current administration was never held accountable for going to war in Iraq and distorting the information to go to war. No weapons of mass destruction and no Alqaeda connection! And why we let the administration get away with this. More than 4,000 Americans dead, 40,000 wounded, 4 million Iraqi refugees, upto 1 million Iraqis dead, 1.3 million Iraqis wounded, mostly innocent civilians. A destroyed infrastructer - healthcare, education at a cost of $2 - $4 trillion before it is all over. We investigate steroid use among athletes more. This is from a predominantly Christian nation. When Bill Clinton was in office he was investigated for anything and everything at a cost over $50 million to taxpayers. But we do not investigate the wrong doing of the war and other things - torture, spying on Americans, secret prisons. And look Osama Bin Laden is still loose and Afghanistan is worse.


Posted by: scuba11 | October 16, 2008 5:09 AM | Report abuse

Wow; there's about as much liberal "objectivity" in this blog as there is in our media and in our "educational" system (which is nothing more than a propagational system).
Who are these people who obsessively refer to John McCain's facial expressions? Quit talking about facial expressions. McCain's a war hero who has health problems, and he's over two generations older than Obama--so your obsessive rants about his facial expressions are bizarre and scary.
By the way, McCain's sacrifice to this country has him in a situation where he cannot salute our flag. Obama, on the other hand, WILL NOT salute our flag--because he has vested interests overseas, as he supports those who have issues against us.
How DARE anyone on here criticize McCain or anyone else for being Pro-Life?! Abortion is murder; it's injustifiable homicide. To talk about "women's rights" or "the health of the mother" when referring to abortion is sickening hypocrisy. You show compassion for the murderer but none for the victim.
We need Roe v. Wade overturned immediately. It never should've been legalized in the first place.
We don't need this relativistic myth that the individual DECIDES what's true and what isn't.
Sarah Palin stands against abortion 100%, and here comes all the propagated bigotry from the misleading, deceiving media. Tina Fey, a trashy individual, is not a legitimate critic, and her skit on that terrible show of hers represents all the repulsiveness of her party.
I'm tired of liberals left and right spewing their venomed bigotry at those who don't support their tyranny.
By the way, our "educational" system is a joke. Again, it's a propagational system that focuses not on education but instead providing a ton of liberal propaganda. For example, it speaks vehemently against having any reference to the Lord in our schools, and it promtes not objectivity but instead agendas. It stands also, for examples, against Creationism and sexual abstinence. It seeks not empirical evidene for substantiation but instead the usage of buzz terms, such as "bigots", to those who don't share their unconstitutional, tyrannical, worldviews and whims.
It's 4:07 a.m.. What am I doing still awake? (I dosed off on the previous paragraph for about a full minute but somehow continued typing.)

Posted by: rnmisback | October 16, 2008 4:09 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: scrivener50 | October 16, 2008 3:59 AM | Report abuse

A point not rarely mentioned was when the moderator ask the candidates their opinion about their oppositions choice for the vice presidency. Obama being the consummate gentleman cited Palin's positives and stated that the voters can decide for themselves whether she is suited for the position. McCain went straight ahead to attack Bidden, who he used to regard as a good friend with venom, citing the silly (silly to McCain) he made in the congress. Hmm... some friend and putting country, loyalty and truth before ambition.

To those who are undecided. Even you have no idea who is better between Obama and McCain, think carefully before you cast your vote. Do you want to have Palin as your next President (A high possibility considering McCain's age). This is the woman who do not think there is anything wrong in allowing her husband and using her office for their personal vendetta. Think what she can do with the Pentagon, CIA, FBI and IRS within per power to influence.

It is bad enough that Bush, through misleading statement and false information of WMD got us into a war in Iraq costing the lives of many american lives in the combat and billions of dollars which partly contribute to the mess we are in. If you think this is bad, it 'ain't nutin ' under her presidency. It would be 'bomb, baby bomb' or worst still 'nuke, baby, nuke' and it would make Peter Seller's Dr Strangelove look like Gandhi. Gitmo would apply to dissenters agains Palin and her family. Tod will make sure of that. So please think carefully of the consequence of your vote.

Posted by: nagamas1 | October 16, 2008 3:43 AM | Report abuse


I'm not going to spend too much time on this, but McCain behaved, hmmm how can you explain it? How can I say this respectfully? No, I'll say it truthfully. McCain showed no respect at all tonight in his dealings with his colleague in the Senate.
Totally DISRESPECTFUL, BITTER, ANGRY, and CHILDISH. The throwing of the hands in the air, the rolling of the eyes, the snappy MEAN-SPIRITED REMARKS.

McCain truly earned the title of 'GRAMPY MCNASTY'. An angry bitter, mean, and ERRATIC old man. McCain emulated the sentiments of evil and vileness such as that of Sarah Palin and his followers tonite. McCain even defended those who call out for murder at his rallies.


No implication that he would cease and desist. I've never seen anyone as hate filled uncivil and close to having a STROKE as I witnessed tonite in John McCain. As for the rest of the debate and some major policies that were outlined, I at the end of this piece will have a little bit more on Senator Obama's policies and something from that will definitely point out the differences and who was being truthful about what? Right now here's Keith Olberman and 9 minutes of 'COUNTDOWNS', take on tonites the last debate....



Barack Obama answered the moderator and John McCain civilly tonite. He was respectful even when being disrespected he behaved SOBERLY AND WITH RESPECT towards John McCain, who truly did not MERIT such a response of LOVE, and almost SYMPATHY. Senator Obama BEHAVED himself WISELY.

Posted by: need4trth | October 16, 2008 3:07 AM | Report abuse

Let How much ever CNN criticize MCCAAIN , I am decided that it is mccain who is the right man, I Can see the propaganda here by media

Posted by: mrn744 | October 16, 2008 3:06 AM | Report abuse

McCain better start acting more respectful to Obama. Shortly he will have to address him as Mr. President.

Posted by: tydicea | October 16, 2008 3:05 AM | Report abuse

Here are 10 good reasons why tonight John McCain sealed his fate to a sweeping landslide loss to Barck Obama on November 4th.

1) With nervous ticks and non-stop blinks, McCain barely concealed his boiling rage and loathing toward Obama.

2) Voters don’t really like the idea of the steely-eyed McCain having a hatchet or a scalpel in his hands...let alone the nuclear football.

3) The Obama/McCain split-screen images reinforced the Marshall McLuhan concept of TV being kind to cool candidates and cruel to hot-headed ones.

4) Saying "I am not President Bush" helped McCain as much as Nixon declaring "I am not a crook!"

5) McCain dismissed protecting "The Health of the Mother" in abortion cases.

6) Obama showed his policy analysis and chops while McCain got the vote of Joe the Plumber.

7) Obama's smile communicates ease and self-confidence; McCain’s tight smirk is a mask for anger.

8) Acorn & Ayers: If you want to sling mud, make sure the people understand and actually CARE about the dirt you're throwing.

9) Obama looked warmly at voters in the camera; McCain forgot the camera was in the room.

10) At the end of the Reagan/Bush era, America is No Country for Old Angry Men

Posted by: DrainYou | October 16, 2008 3:01 AM | Report abuse

See McCains Best Moment during Debate, McCains One liner that was considered a zinger.

To see more debate Highlights and Outtakes

Posted by: pastor123 | October 16, 2008 2:30 AM | Report abuse

I had the great pleasure, of watching the Libertarian Party's Presidential candidate Bob Barr participate in the 3rd Presidential Debate, thru internet television! It was so refreshing to hear concise answers that were actual solutions to America's problems!!!

Posted by: KingRat22 | October 16, 2008 1:44 AM | Report abuse

You're all a bunch of sorry libruls who want to bring America down. Stay home on Nov. 4!

Posted by: rightright | October 16, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

If Joe the plumber PERSONALLY makes 250,000 in TAXABLE income - he's got nothing to worry about in southern Ohio.

If Obama's plan helps the middle class, Joe the plumber is going to have a lot more customers.

With John McCain's plan only the top 5% are going to need a gold plated toilet in one of their seven homes.

How many customers in the top 5% live in Joe's area?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 16, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

About Joe the Plumber and Obama taking his money and spreading it around: "John, the only thing you are spreading around is what goes down the sewer."

But, alas, Barack is looking farther ahead and avoided the trap, the snake, the stink, the septic system and bathroom jokes.

We may need Senator McCain's vote in special session after the election and next year. Barack didn't even say "I look forward to your support next year" on the issues we agree on. A steady leader and a careful strategist...

...who accepted McCain's praise and concession (three times) at the end of the debate.

Posted by: DrDan2000 | October 16, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

It is clear that Obama has a vision for the immediate circumstances and has a longer vision to enhance the quality of life for Americans on every issue. McCain seemed angry and beady-eyed. I'm tired of life being run by corporatism and that's what McCain stands for and that's what's on his mind for the future more temptation for corruption. If his campaign managers won't let him be himself and 3 of them are lobbyists then who is he going to stand up to later. This is a chance for something much brighter and some real thought out change not just pick-pocket votes. McCain equals poverty and widening the gap of the very rich. Obama has both clear policy and vision that is possible step by step.

Posted by: janefree0513 | October 16, 2008 12:47 AM | Report abuse

The Hate Talk Express: Keeps On Rollin'!

McCain is very proud of his Hate Talk Express. You know, the one that doesn't say a word about their supporters shouting "kill him" when they hear Barack Obama's name.

In tonight's debate, McCain said:

"Let me just say, categorically, I'm proud of the people that come to our rallies."

Did you catch that? He's proud of people who threaten the life of his opponent, who shout "off with his head" and "Obama bin Laden".

Here's the clip from the debate:

Thanks, Johnny McNasty, for showing your true colors. Now there's no doubt that your values are in the sewer.

Posted by: DrainYou | October 16, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

McCain was trying so hard to appeal to his base that I think there is going to be some sort of voting "issues" on election day.

And the Republicans will steal this one...again.

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 16, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse


McNasty showed up tonight with his plant, Joe the Plumber. He smirked and scoffed and huffed and puffed. But Big Bad John couldn't blow down the Temple of Obama.

More raffish than arrogant, calm and cool, the rightful heir to the JFK mystique, Barack let McCain bluster and flail, applying the salve after Johnny Rocket burned and fizzled.

The mainstream polls are giving Obama a solid if not spectacular (as the Fix says) win. Fox and Drudge give an overwhelming rose-colored thumbs up.

Obama had his chances to put him away, and, true to form, perplexingly refused to do so. When Schieffer asked McCain if he thought Obama did indeed "pal around with terrorists," as his running mate says, the candidate who raised the Bill Ayers fellow traveler issue (not in those words) refused to answer.

Obama very easily could have interjected something sharp and clever like, "John, how would you feel if Joe Biden said that Sarah Palin's husband has palled around with a bunch of secessionists?" But he didn't. Perhaps wisely -- if he ends up winning the election.

By not losing, of course, Obama wins the debate. But a seven-point lead easily could give way any combination of the following: the Bradley Effect; voting machine "irregularities" and the inability to do recounts without a paper trail; an "October Surprise"; or simply "buyer's remorse."

Obama won the battle tonight -- but he could have used the occasion to put it away. He didn't. He could have seized upon McCain dismissing the "health" of the mother in the abortion debate. He didn't.

And he never had a chance with this particular Joe the Plumber, trust me on that.

And so we await the next shoe that may drop, very soon.


Posted by: scrivener50 | October 16, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

McCain's stuttering, gruff manner was embarrassing to watch. He was abusive and spouted misinformation.

Obama was cool, collected, and on point, with better ideas all across the board.

But then again, Kerry made W. look stupid. So did Gore. Never underestimate the power of ignorant, propagandized, and fearful Americans.

Posted by: rckstrdave | October 16, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

McCranky may not win the Presidency, but he has assured himself future employment as a carnival sideshow freak. "Step right up! See the angry, self-righteous, old man with no ideas who can't control his face! My friends, there's nothing to be scared of! He only berates people other than his wife in private! And he's not gonna give you a litmus test! Step right up, my friends, step right up!"

Posted by: bclark3 | October 16, 2008 12:24 AM | Report abuse

That angry diatribe on abortion probably cost McCain another ten points among women. On the plus side, he probably locked down Joe the Plumber's vote.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | October 16, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

John McCain...what a liar.
Answered every question by attacking Obama first, then exaggerating his self importance, patronizing Americans and vomiting disinformation and lies second.
John McCain...a true American blue blood, who beleives his destiny is to be the greatest war president ever.
John McCain...can't hide his contempt or his anger.
We need him like we need a third world war.

Posted by: tommyd60 | October 16, 2008 12:02 AM | Report abuse

McCain's arguments validated the campaign slogan he and Palin are using: "They will fight for the right." Actually, "They will fight for the far right." They are both out of the mainstream of American politics as the numerous polls are showing. Will Republican candidates learn that if they pander too much to their "base", they can't win elections.
Perhaps they do "get it." That's why the GOP is mounting a massive national campaign to challenge counts in states and regions in which Obama does well. As they learned in 2000, it's possible to win in court when you lose in the count.

Posted by: Casandra1 | October 16, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

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