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Three Undecideds in a Diner

By Libby Copeland
NEVADA, Mo. -- A man in white cowboy hat walks into a diner. He takes a seat at the counter. He holds up his cigar.

"Pick a president yet?" he asks the cook, who is smashing raw patties down on the grill with his bare hand.

Naw, you? says the cook. No, says the Cowboy.

A large man in a red shirt walks in. This seat taken? He orders a hamburger.

"Pick a president yet?" asks the Cowboy.

No, says Red.

So here they are, three undecideds in one of the swingiest of swing states, just sittin' here, stewing in their undecidedness. What campaign canvasser wouldn't give her left arm to be here? They start talking politics. The cowboy says he doesn't like anybody. Scratch that. He kinda likes Sarah Palin. She's new and fresh. But those people who've called him to the phone three times, asking for his vote?

"I hang it up," the Cowboy says.

The White Grill looks like it hasn't changed much since its founding in 1938 -- out front is a painting of a Betty-Boop-looking waitress holding a burger and a shake. The flashing sign advertises those curly fries called Suzie Q's. This state might go to Barack Obama or it might go to John McCain, but it's clear Obama is the frame for this conversation. That's mostly what the three talk about. Who he is, who he thinks he is, who's vote he's almost gotten ... but not quite.

"If Obama would be against abortion, he'd have all the Christians," says the Cook, whose name is Rick Friedli, and who is thinking about voting for Obama, except he's stuck at that abortion thing. "A lot of Christians are not gonna vote for Obama for that reason. Abortion and gay marriages."

"But if you have gay marriage, you don't hafta worry about abortion," says a fellow at the counter.

"I don't think McCain's got a chance," says Red, whose real name is Pat Alexander, and who figures it might be for the best if McCain doesn't win. He likes McCain; he fears Obama. But here's his logic: The next president will be dragged down by the nation's woes, no matter who he is. McCain's such a good man. If he doesn't win, he can hang on to his "honor and respect."

The Cowboy smokes his cigar.

Strangest thing, says the Cook, his tone incredulous. His wife told him she got a call from someone in Kansas City who tried to tell her that Obama was somehow involved in 9/11. At least, that's what she said they said.

"Well, we know that's wrong," says Red, eating his burger. He's 71, a retired marketing exec from Lee Summit.

The undecideds talk. They talk about how the country is now, and about airport security and racial profiling, which meanders, in the way conversations do, to talk of bootlegging and stock-car racing. They talk about domestic wiretapping and whether or not it's an infringement on civil liberties (yes, just like gun control, Red says). They talk about George W. Bush and Bush's daddy and Bill Clinton and whether or not his personal life should have mattered, and whether or not Joe Biden is "a serial bloviator." (That's what Red calls him.)

In truth, they're not really so undecided. They know exactly how they feel; they just don't entirely like their options.

"Do you know anything about body language?" Red asks. "You watch Obama, you watch Obama and he will, when he makes a statement, he will draw his head back and look down his nose at the audience. Every time. He's not quite as bad as Mussolini but getting close."

"Hah-hah!" The Cowboy laughs, then says something he thinks is quite clever about Obama's race. "Hah!" he says. Nobody else laughs, but no one looks offended either.

"I think we'd probably be better off with Bill Clinton back in there," says the Cook.

"I liked him better," Red says. "Now, Obama's got a lot of his advisers and his cabinet members working on this."

The Cowboy says again that he likes Palin. Says she seems like she's not corrupted like the rest of them. He turns down a refill on his coffee and gets up to leave. He won't give his name. He drives off into the night in his truck, leaving Red, who says he probably won't vote.

"That way I can bitch all I want about which ever one," Red says. "Neither one of 'em is gonna do much good."

He walks out, leaving the Cook, who flips a burger and says he's never voted before in his life.

"I really didn't care about it much 'til the last couple years," he says. He's 46, he lives in town, and lately his life has been getting harder and harder.

"I got a family to support," he says. "The economy's bad. I have a hard time anyway -- but then when it gets bad, everything goes up."

Up and up. And harder and harder.

By Washington Post Editors  |  October 19, 2008; 4:15 PM ET
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Didn't read like "undecided voters" to me, maybe lazy but certainly not undecided....
Yeah, they would have Clinton back....sure!

It boils down to race/color we all know it and it is just the way things are in "Red
States" in 20 yrs it will be much less so!

Masses of young people have registered to vote as have Afro/Americans and Latino's this will be the deciding factor, those that really want to vote, those that have many more "tomorrows" of questionable quality of life.

The GOP mentality is alive and well, to bad, they had their time.....Obama 08!

Posted by: porpie9254 | October 20, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Joe the plumber, Cindy the beer distributor, Adolf the insurance company CEO, Mr. Potter the banker, and in the words of Paul McCartney, It's my money, please let me keep it! Or was he talking about alimony?

Posted by: 2Funny | October 20, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Hey, whats the deal about Joe the plumber being a plant by the Keating5 pro McCain folks? I know a few plumbers and they seem to like the idea that they might finally be able to get health insurance for their kids under an Obama administration. If he really wants to go into business, and he is worth any good skill wise, he cold go out on his own tomorrow and find work without buying his bosses business. Oh, but then he would have to get his liscence!

Posted by: 2Funny | October 20, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Any undecided voters:

McCain will be on The Situation Room (CNN) at 4 ET. If you have any questions after that, please let me know.

Posted by: JakeD | October 20, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

seemstone again seems to have stone in his cranium-
He lumps his lawyer's prctice, his accountant's firm, his favorite restaurant, and his psychiatrists's office in with the largest beer dealerhip in Arizona and wants to traet them all the same- additional 3% plus 15.65% tax on profits....don't feel foolish- your candidate treats his own chief campaign adviser's lobbying firm the same as EXXON!
Like all the above small business owner's Axelrod will lay off sooner and hire later as his profit/income dictates. Exxon may be able to pass the taxes on to the consumer one to one, but small business can't and employment and the economy in general suffers, since small business is the nation's LARGEST employer. THAT seemstone is the difference.

Posted by: thecannula | October 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

1. Voter Fraud

There are documented cases of voter fraud all over the country. Hundreds of thousands of fake voter registrations have been collected by the affiliates of ACORN, the organization to which Obama contributed $800,000 and with whom he has long been connected---to see just how connected, click here. Over 1.2 million new voters have been registered by ACORN and it is not clear how many of these are valid. This week in Ohio several non-residents already voted. It is no exaggeration to say that the Obama campaign is condoning practices of stealing an election. Did we see a fair selection process in the primary? If we had, all of the votes would have been counted.

2. Suppression of Dissent

The possibility for questioning Obama, for raising objections to his candidacy, have been eliminated by accusations of racism and by personal attacks on private citizens. How many people will risk questioning Obama after seeing the way that Joe the Plumber's life has been investigated by the pro-Obama media? Those who supported Hillary Clinton during the primaries learned quickly that to do so was to be labeled a racist. Even Bill Clinton was attacked this way. What would an Obama presidency look like, fueled by this kind of campaign and empowered by FISA?

3. Lack of Transparency

We now know more about Joe the Plumber than we do about Barack Obama. Where are Obama's college records, thesis, birth certificate, full medical records, or state senate records?Click here for a list of 157 documented lies from Obama during this election.

I have been a progressive Democrat all my life, as it appeared to me that the Democratic Party was the party that most protected American freedoms. My first ever Republican vote is a result of the events of the 2008 campaign. It is not possible to have democracy without free elections and without freedom of speech.

Posted by: thejaner | October 20, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

We all remember the horrible times when under Clinton we had to decide which job to take. Should we take higher salary or should we go for the benefits and stock options? Thankfully, McCain will continue the Bush policies that will make our choices much easier. Mainly it's "Do you want paper or plastic?" or "Would you like to super size that order,sir?"

Posted by: seemstome | October 20, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse


LET'S GO BACK TO THE ERA OF CLINTON MARXISM
(you know, the good old days)

How many people out there make over 250 grand a year? How many people have even seen 250 grand?
How many people out there make 40 grand like our friend Joe the Handyman? If you are like him you would be way better off with Obama's tax and healthcare plans.
The CEOs and Cindy McCain will have to give up a little more of their money, maybe have to live in 6 houses instead of seven.

Posted by: seemstome | October 20, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

GIMME SOME OF THAT OLD CLINTON SOCIALISM

The fact is Obama's tax plan is just a return to the PROVEN system
Bill Clinton used during the prosperous years of his term in office.
Bill Clinton left office with huge budget surpluses.

McCain's tax plan is just an extension of the PROVEN failure of the Bush tax system of rewarding the wealthy and corporations at the expense of the middle class. The middle class is now redistributing their wealth to bail out banks.

People like to argue theory and statistics but it's as simple as this: Are you better off now then you were eight years ago?

Posted by: seemstome | October 20, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

MarxObamaism Anyone?
"Spread The Wealth Around"

The North Korean Disaster

© The New Australian - No. 94, 2-8 Nov. 1998

...It is interesting to follow the twists and wrigglings of socialist apologists through the years. After the truth about the Soviet Union began to seep under the iron curtain, it turned out that it was all because of the dark Russian character, that that is what they were like , but that China was quite different, the socialism there was a kind of applied Confucianism, all wise philosophy and scholarly peace. Then later on, Castro was not a gray, totalitarian communist; his brand of socialism was "socialism with a calypso beat", a kind of Marxist version of "Beach Blanket Bingo".

Where did it go wrong, and why does it always go wrong? There are myriad reasons. In a devastating insult to Mankind, the left will try to tell you that it is our fault, not the fault of their philosophy. Socialism is a beautiful, intensely moral, idea, but we are too evil in our natures to practice it. The left deny that it is a profoundly immoral and utterly corrupt system for beings of intelligence and individual judgment to live by, that it does not work because it is contradictory to the best in human nature; the independent, creative side of Man which it stifles and destroys, not by accident, but by necessity.

Industrial development and a high standard of living require creative freedom, and creative freedom requires free minds and private property, otherwise the ideas of the creative and inventive who keep us all alive can never be translated into action. No matter how well intentioned are the socialist leaders (hardly ever in my opinion), the fact that they must impose an authoritarian rule that cannot tolerate any opposition ensures the moral and economic failure of their regime. For socialism is a determinitely perfectionist ideology, and as Ludwig von Mises pointed out, every socialist is a potential dictator, absolutely without exception.

This perfectionism always impressed the left liberal satraps from the West. There was no rubbish in the streets of Moscow, and no graffiti on the Moscow subway, even though the Al Gores and Pat Schroeders regard it as "the people's art". Ever wondered why? And to return to North Korea, you might see literal starvation on the streets of Pyongyang, but you would never see any cripples. People with chronic musculoskeletal problems might suggest that the magical power of socialism was limited, and so they were forcibly sent to the countryside to rot in government hovels until they died.

As you read these words, the rest of the North Korean population is joining them.

Posted by: thecannula | October 20, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Gator Ron- One more thing- It doesn't matter if YOUR capital gains taxes go up (depends on how many Gators you wrestle) What DOES matter is that the folks with lots o' stock want to sell their positions before THEIR capital gains taxes go UP, thereby reducing the value of YOUR stock...didn't you here Fred Thompson's speech at the Republican convention? You liberals think when Obama muddies the water for those making over 250K it will only effect our part of the bucket. Dramatically increased taxes on successful small businesses will lead to higher unemployment and prices and lower productivity and stock prices....EVERYBODY suffers!

Thaimex- I Am a small businessmean, not a Republican operative, and I don't know a better system of government with all its inequalities than the US's....Certainly those that have in the past based themselves on the SHARE THE WEALTH edicts of Marx and Obama have failed AND HAVE RESULTED IN THE GREATEST INEQUALITIES- I visited Moscow this summer and saw the lavish apartments Stalin's cronies lived in and the tenements multiple families shared who weren't in the Party's favor....but you know what I mean, your own candidate ordered, according to the NY Post, Iranian caviar and Champagne prior to the Al Smith Dinner last week...ever read Animal Farm Timex?

Posted by: thecannula | October 20, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

So, even thoroughly misinformed republican racists are hesitant to vote for McCain? That's reassuring.

Posted by: zukermand | October 20, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 7:35 PM |

THIS MAN IS A WHINER. MOST SMALL BUSINESSES WON'T BE AFFECTED. THIS MAN IS WORRIED THAT HE MAY HAVE TO PAY AN EXTRA 15-20 OR 25K. -GATOR RON

***************
Obama Takes A HATCHET To Small Business

If you work for a small business, its profits -should Obama be elected- will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama’s magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC’s and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner’s personal 1040!

If you’re the owner, you’re going to be tempted to do more with less and lay someone off-

If you’re an employee- you may, because of this new penalty on progress, be laid off.

John McCain wants to reduce business taxes and grow the economy, rather than squeeze the last drop of juice out of every successful business, large, medium, and small!
Exxon made billions, but why use a HATCHET to treat small and medium sized businesses the SAME WAY Sen.Obama?

“From each according to this ability, to each according to his need”
K.Marx 1875
B.Obama 2008

Someone Please point out how Marx's comment is different from what Obama said to Joe the Plumber in OHIO???????????????

GatorRon- Are YOU quoting Phil Graham with that brilliant "Whiner" remark? It's a LOT more than 25K, but even it were- that's one salaried position in some businesses....multiplied by millions of small businesses and many more positions per large business.

Hey ReptileGuy, can you say 12% unemployment? (I knew you could).

Posted by: thecannula | October 20, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Fortunately the Cowboy is not running for reelection. Great leaders appreciate the power of their words - they use words to unite - that is why we call them leaders. America needs a great leader. ...............

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/19/obama-kennedy-lincoln-jefferson/

Posted by: glclark4750 | October 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 7:35 PM |

THIS MAN IS A WHINER. MOST SMALL BUSINESSES WON'T BE AFFECTED. THIS MAN IS WORRIED THAT HE MAY HAVE TO PAY AN EXTRA 15-20 OR 25K.

***************
Obama Takes A HATCHET To Small Business

If you work for a small business, its profits -should Obama be elected- will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama’s magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC’s and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner’s personal 1040!

If you’re the owner, you’re going to be tempted to do more with less and lay someone off-

If you’re an employee- you may, because of this new penalty on progress, be laid off.

John McCain wants to reduce business taxes and grow the economy, rather than squeeze the last drop of juice out of every successful business, large, medium, and small!
Exxon made billions, but why use a HATCHET to treat small and medium sized businesses the SAME WAY Sen.Obama?

“From each according to this ability, to each according to his need”
K.Marx 1875
B.Obama 2008

Someone Please point out how Marx's comment is different from what Obama said to Joe the Plumber in OHIO???????????????

GatorRon- Are YOU quoting Phil Graham with that brilliant "Whiner" remark? It's a LOT more than 25K, but even it were- that's one salaried position in some businesses....multiplied by millions of small businesses and many more positions per large business.

Hey ReptileGuy, can you say 12% unemployment? (I knew you could).

Posted by: thecannula | October 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

in the words of biden,
I have a three letter word
for obama
NO....
Joe be so funny, crazy,
I wonder if he's all there?
of course he isnt,
but after his anyorism,
no one could the difference.

and dang that guy gets mean,
have you listened to him talk?

I hope joe the plumber bumps
into him in a bar, biden will be
spitting out teeth.

Posted by: USA3 | October 20, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad Collin Powell backed obama
otherwise they would have smeared
another great american...
I recall he testified for
our 'unjust' genacide in IRAQ'
I'm not willing to work 70 hours
a week and go back to an obama welfare state!

NOBAMA08

Posted by: USA3 | October 20, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and by the way, who is going to try to comfort and support those who have been Psychologically and physically damaged due to this unnecessary war the Bush administration got us into for their own greedy agendas? The Republican agenda does not care about this. They care about their own greed over anything else. Colin Powell even said this yesterday am on the air. He is opposed to the negative rhetoric spewed by the GOP which is one of the reasons he is endorsing Senator Obama.

Posted by: LKM2 | October 20, 2008 6:27 AM | Report abuse

Bottom line here is that we need change, REAL CHANGE. The republicans have gotton us into this mess and once again the Dems have got to bail them out. And when the Dems can't do it fast enough they are blamed for what the Republican's have done in the first place! Keep the middleclass uneducated, oppress them, then the Republican's can very greedily rule the roost! Wow, how dmeocratic is that?

Posted by: LKM2 | October 20, 2008 6:11 AM | Report abuse

posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 10:59 PM

Quoting a source other than the Obama campaign is only recycling something that may or may not be true. Since Republicans are the ones less trusted they are the ones more likely to lie. When its your money you are trying to save you will quote anyone who says what you want. I have some doubt that you are even accurate but what is most important is what your sources are quoting.

As you pointed out in another post, there are ways for the small business owners to avoid these high taxes.

I have confidence that Mr Obama who is advised by men like Volcker and Buffett and he will adjust the taxes according to what is best for this country and not to satisfy any ideology. This is BS.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 19, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

osted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 10:59 PM

You are again misstating the facts Obama will tax over 250K to another cap which I do not remember at a rate of ~ 4% not 15%.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 19, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 10:37 PM |

There will not be much in the way of capital gains for the next year or so. Anyone who makes an investment decision on the basis of taxes is not an investor he is a fool. I know that with your personality that would include you.

When it comes to economics I am not liberal or conservative and in case your not aware that distinction has been blurred. I simply do not like economics that has failed like Bush's policy to which McCain adheres and you desperately cling to to save your 15-20K. I freely admit that when it comes to individual rights I am quite liberal but when it comes to the economy I like what works.

Your judgmental outlook on life forces you to think that because I find you self centered obnoxiousness intolerable that I am socialistic. It is just the same distortions and lies that have emanated from the McCain campaign about Obama.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 19, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I can relate to the Un-Written, but DOUBTFULLY, Un-Spoken, conundrum these people face.

We are Talking about Nevada.

A State that overwhelmingly voted for a business and economics wise Candidate, who WOULD have ENFORCED Federal Labor Laws, only to see their Candidate get played out by the Media and other Presidential Contenders.

A State that had REAL Foresight! It is NOW ALL about the Economy, and the Mittster has been left out by MORONS!

IF, the Primaries were occurring TODAY, Mitt Romney would have left the others in the Dust!

Cripes! Just look at which "Swing" States are falling to O'Bomba, and REALIZE they would be just like Nevada-In the GOP Pocket, with a Mitt Romney Ticket!

It is NOT too late!

When the Captain of the Titanic manages to stay the Course, without ANYONE Stopping Him, Captain McCain will Sink the Republican Party, like a Party that sat back and allowed such a thing to happen deserves! :-(

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 19, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

June 26, 2008
European Levels of Taxation: Barack Obama's Tax Plan
by Rea S. Hederman, Jr. and Patrick Tyrrell
Presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama (D–Ill.) has unveiled his economic plan of raising taxes on the successful. His plan would boost the top marginal rate to well over 55 percent—before the inclusion of state and local taxes—resulting in many individuals seeing their marginal tax rate double. The consequences of this policy would be a return to the bad old days of tax avoidance, with taxpayers disguising personal income as business income or capital gains and the migration of capital from the United States to abroad.

Among the more prominent elements of his tax proposal, Senator Obama would end the Bush tax cuts and allow the top two tax rates to return to 36 and 39.6 percent. He also would allow personal exemptions and deductions to be phased out for those with income over $250,000. The real kicker, though, is that Senator Obama would end the Social Security payroll tax cap for those over $250,000 in earnings. (The cap is currently set at $102,000.) These individuals will then face a tax rate of 15.65 percent from payroll taxes and the top income tax rate of 39.6 percent for a combined top rate of over 56 percent on each additional dollar earned.


Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

This was a really wonderfully written piece. Thank you.

Posted by: jadada | October 19, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Gator Ron- One more thing- It doesn't matter if YOUR capital gains taxes go up (depends on how many Gators you wrestle) What DOES matter is that the folks with lots o' stock want to sell their positions before THEIR capital gains taxes go UP, thereby reducing the value of YOUR stock...didn't you here Fred Thompson's speech at the Republican convention? You liberals think when Obama muddies the water for those making over 250K it will only effect our part of the bucket. Dramatically increased taxes on successful small businesses will lead to higher unemployment and prices and lower productivity and stock prices....EVERYBODY suffers!

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

You will make your employment decisions based on what makes your business most profitable, not on your tax situation. You do not have workers working for you now instead of students for any other reason than that it benefits your business. Cut the BS. You may try scaring your employees that way to keep their wages down but for the rest of us who do not have the misfortune to have you in our lives, we recognize that you are just blather.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 19, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Your figure for the tax rate is bogus just like everything else your self serving self says. The Business can be taxed at a lower rate. Of course you in oorder to deceive the readers will make what is the worse case. Senario. In your particular case 605 would be too low. But I am only thinking that you need to be taxed at a higher rate than the less self centered.

I have no leader I have a candidate in is the autocratic who have leaders. I am not a socialist, Obama is not a socialist and Colin Powell expressed the concept that typing candidates with labels rather than arguing the policy.

Only the petty and the nasty who snoop to find out what someone have and publish it here. However I would think that time for himself and his wife is very precious and they may have been extravagant. Obama was not trying to set up a wireless network for his ranch and getting Verizon to lie about it.

No one should be making judgements on the basis of what you are talking about. You are a small business owner who earns more than 250K and you are terrified that you might have to pay an extra 15K or 20 K. So you come to this site to deceive anyone who will listen to note vote for the man who will restructure tax policyn to what it was during Clinton's time when the middle class made some progress. Bush is a disaster and people know how they have done under Bush so I simply remind them to stick to the important facts that times are going to be hard no matter who gets in but jobs will be more plentiful a year from now under Obama. Nothing you can say will counter that.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 19, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Gator-ron - Every Small business making 250K or more will be taxed at 55-60% rates by your Leader comrade, in order to do what he told Joe the Plumber he wanted to do- "Spread the Wealth Around"- Big Business gets around increased taxes by raising prices- that's what Exxon will do- small business might too, but operating on lower volume will actually ALSO have to cut expenses. It's easier to lay off a worker or two, or hire a part time student rather than a full time graduate than move...in any case WE ALL WILL SUFFER....but your leader and his wife will STILL BE ABLE TO ORDER CAVIAR AND CHAMPAGNE AT THE WALDORF-

Friday, October 17, 2008

The Obama Diet — Not Just Arugula [Lisa Schiffren]
National Review Online


The "people's ticket" ordered a little snack from room service at the Waldorf, as the N.Y. Post's page Six reports:

While he was at a meeting at the Waldorf-Astoria at 4 p.m. Wednesday, Michelle Obama called room service and ordered lobster hors d'oeuvres, two whole steamed lobsters, Iranian caviar and champagne, a tipster told Page Six.

I'd guess the bill for that snack came in at around $350. Iranian caviar ain't cheap — even if you negotiate for it yourself. What the hell . . . Your campaign contributions (soon to be your tax dollars) at work.

Does anyone else remember Gerald Ford toasting his own English Muffins in the family quarters of the White House? Michelle's style is a little more Leona Helmsley, who's ad campaign featured a picture of herself in one of her hotels, with the slogan, "a hotel fit for a Queen." Can you do that at the White House? "

Animal Farm-
"Now if there was one thing that the animals were completely certain of, it was that they did not want Jones back.When it was put to them inthis light, they had no more to say. The importance of keeping the pigs in good healthwas all too obvious. So it was agreed without further argumentthat the milk and the windfall apples should be reserved for the pigs alone."
G Orwell, 1946

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Gator-ron - Every Small business will be taxed at 55-60% rates by your Leader comrade, in order to do what he told Joe the Plumber he wanted to do- "Spread the Wealth Around"- Big Business gets around increased taxes by raising prices- that's what Exxon will do- small business might too, but operating on lower volume will actually ALSO have to cut expenses. It's easier to lay off a worker or two, or hire a part time student rather than a full time graduate than move...in any case WE ALL WILL SUFFER....but your leader and his wife will STILL BE ABLE TO ORDER CAVIAR AND CHAMPAGNE AT THE WALDORF-

Friday, October 17, 2008

The Obama Diet — Not Just Arugula [Lisa Schiffren]
National Review Online


The "people's ticket" ordered a little snack from room service at the Waldorf, as the N.Y. Post's page Six reports:

While he was at a meeting at the Waldorf-Astoria at 4 p.m. Wednesday, Michelle Obama called room service and ordered lobster hors d'oeuvres, two whole steamed lobsters, Iranian caviar and champagne, a tipster told Page Six.

I'd guess the bill for that snack came in at around $350. Iranian caviar ain't cheap — even if you negotiate for it yourself. What the hell . . . Your campaign contributions (soon to be your tax dollars) at work.

Does anyone else remember Gerald Ford toasting his own English Muffins in the family quarters of the White House? Michelle's style is a little more Leona Helmsley, who's ad campaign featured a picture of herself in one of her hotels, with the slogan, "a hotel fit for a Queen." Can you do that at the White House? "

Animal Farm-
"Now if there was one thing that the animals were completely certain of, it was that they did not want Jones back.When it was put to them inthis light, they had no more to say. The importance of keeping the pigs in good healthwas all too obvious. So it was agreed without further argumentthat the milk and the windfall apples should be reserved for the pigs alone."
G Orwell, 1946


Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 8:39 PM

You suffer from the misconception that because you taxes will go up that the rest of will have increased capital gains. I know that you will respond with anger and "facts" that are either irrelevant or inaccurate.

Obama will not raise taxes on those earning 250K or less. That is what people need to know, not the fact that your taxes will go up. Tough luck. The distortion in the tax policy caused by the Bush tax policy will be reversed and the middle class will be taxed according to how they profit from the economy.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 19, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I hate to say it, but not voting at all is better than voting for Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

Posted by: JakeD | October 19, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

It's an interesting question-

Is Obama doing well because the market is tanking OR is the market tanking because Obama is doing well?

-He wants to increase Capital gains taxes, so anyone who has invested some time in the past and plans to hold their investment will have to pay much more in taxes after a possible Obama victory than after a McCain victory....the better Obama's poll numbers, the more likely hard working Americans lose some of their investment income....

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama Takes A HATCHET To Small Business

If you work for a small business, its profits -should Obama be elected- will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama’s magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC’s and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner’s personal 1040!

If you’re the owner, you’re going to be tempted to do more with less and lay someone off-

If you’re an employee- you may, because of this new penalty on progress, be laid off.

John McCain wants to reduce business taxes and grow the economy, rather than squeeze the last drop of juice out of every successful business, large, medium, and small!
Exxon made billions, but why use a HATCHET to treat small and medium sized businesses the SAME WAY Sen.Obama?

“From each according to this ability, to each according to his need”
K.Marx 1875
B.Obama 2008


Wes1155-you Democrat Troll- OBAMA spread the first tenent of Communism to Joe the Plumber- right to his face....I'm merely quoting your Leader, comrade..."Spread the Wealth Around" (tell Joe Biden that those are THREE very powerful words!)

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

For much of the campaign we were unable to pin down what Sen. Obama stands for except his empty change and hope. Finally, Joe the Plumber has hit the nail on the head and forced Sen. Obama to admit the purpose of his campaign to ”spread the wealth around.” Today, a woman in North Carolina has pinned him down with “Socialist, socialist, socialist — get out of here!” I think this is the end of the great Obama campaign.

Posted by: Wiel | October 19, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

AS A VETERAN, I HAVE BEEN IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES AND HAVE SEEN THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE YOU HAVE NIGHTMARES, SINCE I BEEN BACK I SEE THIS COUNTRY IS TURNING INTO A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY AND YOU PEOPLE BETTER WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE, AND BETTER ENJOY YOUR FREEDOM BECAUSE DON'T BE SURPRISE WHEN THIS COUNTRY WILL BE NO MORE, I WAS A DEVOTED REPUBLICAN ONCE AND THE DEMOCRATED PARTY IS NOW A BUNCH OF COMMIES AND THIS MEDIA IS SO SOCIAL ITS NOT FUNNY, IF YOU LOVE THIS COUNTRY AS I DO VOTE FOR THE CONSTITUTION PARTY(WWW.CONSTITUTIONPARTY.COM)

Posted by: DWRUTSGNT | October 19, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a middle aged woman that still thinks she is a young woman aspiring to be a beauty queen. Sorry Sarah it's to late. It is passed time to grow up!

Posted by: safmmail | October 19, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

wes1155:

fontabulous!


SOCIALISM

BUSH started it!
McCain voted for it!


Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 19, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

If Palin were VP, there would be no serious thought of using the impeachment provisions of the Constitution.

I see no chance of this having been a motivation of John McCain, but it should give us pause.

Palin is not a plausible candidate for VP.

Posted by: JamesBullis | October 19, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Before Palin was governor, oil companies paid most of the taxes and Alaskan residents paid no state taxes and each person was getting a check for $2000 per year. She imposed sales taxes on Wasilla to pay for a sports complex. Very popular! Then, as governor, she "took on big oil" so each Alaskan person now gets another $1200 per year. Why would that be popular? She is a maverick like Robin Hood! Wow! What a leader! $3200 per person each year instead of state taxes!
But wait a minute. This sounds like Cesar Chavez of Venezuela. If you have been listening to Bush, Chavez made himself into an enemy of the USA by the same actions against "big oil" in his country as Palin's actions against "big oil" of Alaska.
It seems like McCain got mixed up about Palin as a conservative. This is not a political stance; rather it looks like she is good at seeing an opportunity to be popular.

Posted by: JamesBullis | October 19, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I see the same old RNC/Palin-McCain hack troll blow hard is posting the same lies, smears and innuendos.

So what is Obama, a socialist or a communist? Marx wrote "The Communist Manifesto", about communism not socialism. So which is it, he can't be both. What can you expect from a troll but try to even obscure the differences between two very different political, social and economic philosophies.

As for Obama being a socialist, no more so than McCain. The only difference is one wants to give the tax break to 95% of the population and the other only 5%.

Posted by: wes1155 | October 19, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboy-
"I got a family to support," he says. "The economy's bad. I have a hard time anyway -- but then when it gets bad, everything goes up."

Up and up. And harder and harder.

*************
If he works for a small business, its profits will be taxed at near 60% once it breaks Obama's magic 250K, Because-

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OBAMA WANTS TO REMOVE THE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL CAP CREATING A 15.65% ADDITIONAL TAX ABOVE THE 3% ADDED INCOME TAX at this level, since LLC's and Subchapter S small business profits pass through to the owner's personal 1040!

If he's the boss, he's going to be tempted to do more with less and lay someone off-

If he's an employee- let's hope for his family's sake he votes for McCain.

"From each according to this ability, to each according to his need"
K.Marx 1875
B.Obama 2008

Posted by: thecannula | October 19, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I'd laugh is the sad part wasn't obvious:
those are the people who will deside who will be the next President of the United States.

Posted by: Serge_Birbrair | October 19, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Cowboy thinks Palin isn't corrupted like the others; that's rich!

I guess he missed the Ethics Violation thing in Alaska. Oh well.

IF PALIN IS SO QUALIFIED...

Then why didn't she run for president?

Makes you wonder what the Republican Primary would have looked like?

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | October 19, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

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