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By Anne E. Kornblut
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is on track to be nominated for secretary of state in the Obama administration, transition aides said on Thursday night.

Days of back and forth followed the meeting between President-elect Barack Obama and Clinton last week in Chicago, when the two principals first discussed the post, with advisers to Clinton suggesting she might not want the job and questions persisting about the business work and international ties of her husband, former president Bill Clinton.

But the former president agreed to a thorough vetting, and Obama advisers did not back away from reports that the New York senator was the president-elect's top pick. On Thursday night, aides said that the vetting issues have been resolved, and the selection could occur soon, perhaps immediately after Thanksgiving.

Posted at 10:23 PM ET on Nov 20, 2008  | Category:  Cabinet
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To all my friends who kept coming up with lame excuses as to why the Ob ticket was far superior to Mac's:
I hate to say it, but.......I told you so! You wanted "fundamental changes"....you got them now.....the Clinton's are back! Happy? Eight more years of their BS and lack of ability to lead anything, including the economy....and poor Billy lying his brains off, as usual. Ob's cabinet is full of the old jokers, 'cause he's so pathetically incapable and unexperienced with everything that he needs at least some of the 'ole Dem crew back to tell him what's going on. So much for change! Good luck to us all! And may God bless these United States more than ever, 'cause we're really gonna need it now!!!

Posted by: onloqp18 | November 23, 2008 12:24 AM

Now aren't all you whining Republicans special. It's really amusing, very enlightening to watch you all writhe and squirm in pain over the superior Democrats like Hillary take the place of your corrupt, loser, sexually deviant "leaders" in Washington. Bow to your new Democrat Masters! we own you now! God Bless America! Merry Christmas! Amen!

Posted by: Hillary08 | November 22, 2008 8:23 PM

godzillary's nomination is "on track" the way eliot spitzer was "on track" to be husband of the year. there's a new boss in town, and he's got a velvet crowbar for the kneecaps of anyone who doesn't do as they're told. lieberman uber alles!

http://politiqs.tommyjonq.com

Posted by: tommyjonq | November 22, 2008 11:20 AM

So where's all this big change Mr. Obama preached to us. So far he's appointed all Clinton retreads. Mr. Bill"I did not have sex with that woman"Clinton is also responsible for the financial mess we're in today, due to his deregulation of certain markets. What bad joke this turned out to be!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dktny | November 22, 2008 9:12 AM

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Posted by: BRAIANFRANKLINJAWAD | November 22, 2008 12:06 AM

I forgot to mention that the list of Hillary problems in my previous post was taken from

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/crime2.html

That list was originally published by Washington Weekly in 1996.

You will get a partial idea of what went on in the Clinton administration and which players did what by going through that list. A lot happened after 1996 which are not in that list.

Selecting Hillary for SOS is a slap in th face of Ted Kennedy. Ted Kennedy even with his bad health campaigned for Obama. Ted Kennedy was furious about the lying Clintons during the primaries. Now to have a pathological lier as our secretary of state is so going backwards. If this was the change Obama had been mentioning during all those rallies I must say that we have been taken for a ride.

Posted by: MaryHiggins1 | November 21, 2008 9:01 PM


If you're having girl problems I feel sorry for you son... I got 99 problems but this ain't one....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CaiO_H6oeU

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | November 21, 2008 8:54 PM

The biggest mistake of his presidency has already been made even before getting sworn in. Hillary is no SOS material. She got the name sister Frigidaire during her college days by her colleagues. She is as cold as it comes. She voted for the Iraq war, and would never say she was sorry for the way she voted. Instead she kept on blaming the Bush administration for leading us into war. She and her husband have really no respect for Obama. During the primaries she had a truck load of lies about visiting foreign countries and getting shot at by sniper fire. The world welcomed Obama. But the messenger he has chosen to communicate with the rest of the world is far from a diplomat. She is mostly frowned upon by foreign dignitaries. She has really no vision for the world stage. Remember the deals Bill Clinton made with China. They came to the white house, slept in the Lincoln bedroom, stole all our military secrets. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have pandered too much to certain illegal factions, pardoned a few fugitives. Hillary has too much baggage from the Clinton presidency that nobody want to revisit. Travelgate, Porkbelly stock market fiasco, whitewater, etc. Following is a partial list of some the problems Hillary was in during the Clinton administration. We really don't want her to represent our country to the rest of the world.

(1) Took a $100,000 bribe, camouflaged as futures trades,
from Tyson Foods Inc.

(2) Speculated in Health Care industry futures while overseeing
legislative reform of same.

(3) Failed to correct false testimony by co-defendant Ira
Magaziner in Health Care trial.

(4) Obstructed justice by ordering the shredding of Vince
Foster's documents in the Rose Law Firm.

(5) Ordered members of the Health Care Task Force to shred
documents that were the target of a court probe.

(6) Ordered the removal of documents from Vince Foster's office.

(7) Told aides to lie about their removal of documents from
Foster's office

(8) Obstructed justice by keeping her billing records, a document
sought under subpoena, in the White House residence.

(9) Lied to investigators about her knowledge about billing
records.

(10) Lied to investigators about her involvement in the Castle
Grande land flip con.

(11) Ordered the use of the FBI to discredit Travel Office
employees.

(12) Lied to investigators about her involvement in the firing of
Travel Office Employees.

Posted by: MaryHiggins1 | November 21, 2008 8:48 PM

I am very disappointed at Obama. He is now surrounded by Bill Clinton cabinet. This is not change. This is going back 16 years. At least Bill Clinton had them in his cabinet when they were young with more vigor. Obama on the other hand has chosen all the old relics who are now 16 years older than when they were in a Clinton cabinet. Not only that all that talk about changing Washington is just a farce. Biden, Daschle, Richardson, Herder, Hillary, it goes on, the same old washigton insiders. The worst of all is Hillary, who really mocked Obama during the primaries and who wanted to be treated like a queen is getting the SOS post. It is ridiculous. I understand that Obama has to put bygones be bygones. But now it is like sleeping with the enemy. Hillary and her surrogates made such a big fuss about his religion, race, reverand, and his association with Bill Ayers. Hillary gave him a bigger run than McCain or Palin did. But now we see the honeymoon between Obama and Hillary whenever we turn on the TV. But hugging and kissing each other at every opportunity they get in front of a TV camera. Well change has come. Obama has changed.

Posted by: JohnMcCormick | November 21, 2008 6:45 PM

OMG - What a farce - How does hiring all the old inside the beltway cronies represent change. When are the people who elected Obama going to realize they were lied to and start to demand what Obama promised - Change - not more of the same old lies, leaks and losing policies. The only thing worse than the Republican policies were the Democrat policies that preceeded them.

Posted by: AG1231 | November 21, 2008 5:21 PM

If Hillary and Bill can get an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, she'll be elected POTUS in 2016.

================================

more likely they will duplicate their former 8 years with 8 more years of settlement building.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | November 21, 2008 4:52 PM

Rodham Clinton is a MONSTER.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | November 21, 2008 4:49 PM

HRC = Her Royal Clinton

I bet Bill opens his mouth and embarrasses the new admin.

Posted by: AbolhassanBaniSadr | November 21, 2008 3:24 PM

NOW WHEN WE WITHDRAW combat troops for Iraq ... Hillary will be the one reliving her vote to give GW the authority to go to war ... and we are likely to be out quicker with OBama and Hillary leading the way.

If Hillary could redo one vote it would have been the one on war with Iraq.

Posted by: amitchell13 | November 21, 2008 3:20 PM

Four Long Years;

of having to watch Thunder-Thighs in Pantsuits;

Dodge "Sniper-Fire!" :-(

Posted by: SAINT---The | November 21, 2008 3:14 PM

NOW THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT

OBAMA offers HILLARY to accept SOS

NOW WE CAN MOVE ON ... to other pressing issues ... The Economy ... The Treasury Secretary

Hillary I beleive in you ... and I am happy that your hubby Bill is not standing in your way from realizing some of your dreams and ambitions.

You have the intellect and connections and the backbone to be a GREAT Secretary of State and you deserve the gesture and offer more than any woman politician I know.

This from an Independent Republican

Posted by: amitchell13 | November 21, 2008 3:08 PM

Why wait until "after" thanksgiving? why this delay one week after PEO officially met with her ?if it takes that type of lengthy negociation between a boss and his employee (+husband)-whatever the title may be-it does not bode very well for their future "cooperation"...all the more that I am among those who do not consider HRC as an "expert" on foreign policy grounds : she overtly lied heavily twice (Bosnia ,Ireland)during the primaries!!!!!WHERE IS THE CHANGE ???? true , part of politics is show bizz but the smaller the part the better achievements are!

Posted by: yabouillet | November 21, 2008 3:05 PM

Michelle to Barack, "It's me or HRC. I'm not letting her near the 'Cabinets'."

Now do you get it?

Gov. Richardson for State and Sen. Baucus for Treasury STAT.

Posted by: lockmallup | November 21, 2008 2:38 PM

Post election we look for actions that might provide a glimpse into the potential of “change” arriving with an Obama Presidency.

The first “Tell” - - -

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama-first-tell.html

Posted by: JamesRaider | November 21, 2008 2:32 PM

Ahem,

Cough-COUGH!

Bush,

Clinton,

Bush-While senior Bushie and Clinton conspire together.

And CLINTON!

Obasama is SURROUNDED by Clinton People, and with the Clintons in Charge of State, is now effectively;

A Congressional Stooge to sign Bills!

Who'd have thunk That?! :-(

Posted by: SAINT---The | November 21, 2008 2:26 PM

Super, all we need is more drama in the white house. With the Clintons, it could be categorized more like a melodrama, or is that slash film, perhaps horror film. Yes siree, "Change We Can Scream At."

Posted by: candyzky | November 21, 2008 1:31 PM

Gator-ron -

I will not deny that there are liabilities and potential pitfalls here. Yet Obama seems to be aware of them and is most approriately demanding the ability to vet both and for Bill to be under some restriant.

Overall, you seem to be on my wavelength here: Hillary has the potential to be a great SoS even with the "baggage" of Bill and the tarnished Clinton legacy. It is the positives that make her worth considering, and which I see even for you override the negatives.

The big issue is this: Will she accept a subordinate position from which she can be fired? After all, she cannot survive as Sos except as a willing and supportive member of the Obama team. This is not to say that she cannot have and push her own agenda. In fact I suspect the Obama wants and expects just that from her. However, at the end of the day, it must be Obama who has the last word, and Hillary will have to toe his line even if she disagrees with it.

Posted by: ems57fcva | November 21, 2008 1:10 PM

WTF... Rodham Clinton, when she portrayed the black church as a domestic terrorist threat and acknowledged that her political strategy was based in "hard working white people" ..... revealed herself.

Let's be clear.... Obama won despite the Clinton's.

A deal was made, obviously, cabinet slot of choice because... again, when Rodham Clinton went with the racial dog whistles, she lost her ability to get elected to anything. !8 million cracks indeed... how many were black? She split the party on racial lines and lost. As such she can not be re-elected to her seat in New York, Majority leader, and even precludes a run in 2012 or 2016. Her bum rush to a "needy" cabinet slot is consistent with her diva needs. But in her "obliterate" Iran AIPAC pledge, she also revealed how undiplomatic she is. Besides, all Clinton gave the Middle East was 8 years of new settlements. AIPAC knows that with Rodham Clinton, they are guarenteed 8 more years of settlement building.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | November 21, 2008 1:04 PM


Does anyone seriously for one second believe if Hillary Clinton travels as Secretary of State on the aircraft provided for the SOS by the US Air Force that Bill Clinton is going to stay quietly at home? I doubt it. So what will the world see? President Clinton and Mrs Clinton jaunting round the globe again. So much for effective change!

Posted by: geoffreymcnab |

=================================

It makes ya sick Ha. I feel like I just voted for George Bush. In six months Obama will known as the White House pet that Hillary and Bill keep around for show. I can't believe I've spent the last year helping Obama get elected.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | November 21, 2008 12:56 PM

Perks of SOS:

Travel anywhere in the world at tax payers expense ... and you are on the job!!

Versus Ambassador to UN: Caroline Kennedy ... gets to stay at home ... USA

So I can understand why Hillary might want this job.

Posted by: amitchell13 | November 21, 2008 12:48 PM

Gator Ron said,

"The spectacle that has gone on since she has been asked has been unseemly and no different than the one she created in the primaries after she had lost the primaries but remained in the race."

I totally agree.

Hillary Supporters: You AREN'T HELPING!
For heavens sake get behind America's agenda. I can smell your desperation from here!

By securing the most powerful names in American politics, Obama makes himself a larger figure in the world. By including Hillary, he gathers power to lead America's agenda.

The Clinton's are going "all in" on this deal. This is for all the chips.

And the rest of you can keep sucking on the bones of Rush Limbaugh's shattered dreams of 1994 Conservatism. It's gotten so bad on the right that Sean Hannity is trying to run a dead president for re-election.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | November 21, 2008 12:43 PM

Does anyone really believe that Bill Clinton will be thoroughly vetted? He's another one that writes off land mine clearing on his taxes. The only vetting process the Clintons will get is whatever the New Your Times makes up.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | November 21, 2008 12:43 PM

Does anyone seriously for one second believe if Hillary Clinton travels as Secretary of State on the aircraft provided for the SOS by the US Air Force that Bill Clinton is going to stay quietly at home? I doubt it. So what will the world see? President Clinton and Mrs Clinton jaunting round the globe again. So much for effective change!

Posted by: geoffreymcnab | November 21, 2008 12:31 PM

Change we can believe in Ha. The Republicans love the Hillary pick because they're getting one of their own. I'm surprised Obama didn't put McCain in charge of Home-land security. Keeping the Bilderberg gang alive.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | November 21, 2008 12:25 PM

ignoranceisbliss,
considering your post, I'm going to have to say the name is fitting. You're quite ignorant. But hey, not everyone actually takes the time to learn what Socialism and Communism actually entail. I'll forgive you.

Posted by: XanderB | November 21, 2008 12:24 PM

Bcamp55

This sounds too much like the old hateful politic of the Republicans losing the presidency in 1992 ... and the partisan politics that we have all endured for the past 16 years. I am not keeping score JUST WANT TO MOVE ON ... while acknowledging that the Clintons have a lot of negatives and very undeservingly these have passed on to Hillary. If the President-Elect agree that it should be Hillary for SOS ... as an Independent Repub who voted for him ... I can move on ... I just want Former President Bill Clinton to STAY OUT OF THE WAY of his wife and the President-Elect Obama getting on with the job. I am more than curious why this is taking so long??!! No back room deals ... The Presidency and the Democratic Party has a new leader ... I am told: Barack Obama.

Posted by: amitchell13 | November 21, 2008 12:24 PM

Another Clinton in the White House - I’m just glad Hillary has so much foreign policy exp.

Who is kidding whom?

I guess I missed the part in all the empty "Change" rhetoric were it said it would be change back to the sleaze of the Clinton administration.

You liberals remember the Clinton administration right?

The one that:

was handed the most robust economy in history to see it tank 3 months prior to it being handed to GW Bush.

had one of the three largest industry booms in US history (the .coms) and STILL somehow managed to f-up the economy to the point where it ended in recession under his watch.

took millions from the Chinese in exchange for our most highly guarded missile secrets.

saw the President more interested in getting BJ's from a 20 year old than responding to the first WTC attack.

passed the 2 largest tax increases in US history.

brought fame, glory and honor to the memory of Lincoln buy renting out his bedroom.

dismantled every intelligence and military agency of this country leading to the first ever attack on US soil.

allowed corporate corruption to run rampant allowing for the likes of Enron, Tyco, etc; costing retirees billions in savings.

It sure will be refreshing to get back to the good old days.

But hey - At least Hillary has an abundance of foreign policy experience.


Posted by: Bcamp55 | November 21, 2008 12:13 PM

I'll go one step further than jrob822, if such an agreement is possible, I believe that Hillary with Obama's backing will be able to do it.

Posted by: Gator-ron | November 21, 2008 12:10 PM

Hillary's Career Track:?

If not SOS then certainly something in Health Care which we know was always her passion. Not a glamorous cabinet position ... not much travel ... and meeting heads of states. But, if webelieve all she spoke about in the primaries ... WHY NOT

Junior Senator from New York
Governor of New York?

Cannot see her over stepping anyone to be Senate Majority Leader

Posted by: amitchell13 | November 21, 2008 12:09 PM

ems57fcva:

I am a person who is a Hillary hater but thinks that she will make an excellent choice for SoS but I do not agree with you that complaints about Hillary are unfounded. The spectacle that has gone on since she has been asked has been unseemly and no different than the one she created in the primaries after she had lost the primaries but remained in the race.

Just because she is talented, cunning, a hard worker and well know and liked throughout the world to many people is not sufficient reason to behave like a spoiled brat.

If Mrs Clinton eventually becomes SoS and probably becomes a great one, she will have Barack Obama to thank for that because most people would not be able to tolerate her in a subordinate position.

I am amazed that you do not recognize her liabilities. They were so manifest during the primaries.

Posted by: Gator-ron | November 21, 2008 12:04 PM

An Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement is strategically important for the middle east, and for our national security.

There's no bigger political prize - other than turning the economy around - than that.

If Hillary and Bill can get an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, she'll be elected POTUS in 2016.

Posted by: jrob822 | November 21, 2008 12:01 PM

I will make a prediction here about the future of Senator Clinton.

I don't beleive that she will be the Sec'y of State. Stop and think a moment before you laugh at this prediction.

In the history of the USA very few Sec'y of State have served more than one term. Do you think that Senator Clinton is willing to limit herself to one term in the cabinet? What does she do after that? Whether you like her or not it is safe to say she is quite comfortable in the sphere of power. Why limit your time in the light?

I am willing to bet that the Democratic leadership in the Senate will find a very nice leadership position for her. In that Clinton is well thought of in her constituency it is likely she would be re-elected as long as she has the interest.

This will come to a head right after Thanksgiving. Just enough time for the Senate to carve out a power position, say foreign relations chair.

Posted by: Thatsnuts | November 21, 2008 11:55 AM


ANNE KORNBLUT, PREPARE TO EAT CROW...
ANNE K., PREPARE TO EAT CROW!

THE HILLARY-OBAMA DRAMA: AN OFFER HE'LL NEVER MAKE AND SHE WOULDN'T ACCEPT?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/hillary-obama-drama-offer-hell-never-make-and-she-would-never-accept

OR http://members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | November 21, 2008 11:49 AM

I am somewhat amazed by the anti-Clinton remarks on this page. Although it had its rough spots and issues, Bill Clinton's presidency none-the-less was marked by peace and economic stability. Overall, it was a competent presidency. Also, we are also talking about Hillary, not Bill, being the Secretary of State. Yes, Hillary was taken in by the Iraq War retoric, but do recall that the vote that she and others said "yea" to was characterized as being "either the UN gives an explicit OK or we come back to the Congress for one". Noone expected that the threat-of-consequences resolution would be taken as an already existing OK from the UN! So what Hillary (and many others) voted for was not what they got.

In any case, Hillary Clinton is a smart and outstanding woman in her own right, and is a good choice for Secretary of State becuase she can stand on her own even with an ex-President husband. My hat is off to Barack Obama, who already is exceeding my most optimistic expectations. I hope that he comtinues to do so.

Posted by: ems57fcva | November 21, 2008 11:48 AM

Because you don't agree with Hillary being SOS does not make you a hater. That's silly. It's no worse than Obama lovers deeming any disagreement with him as hating.

I felt like a knife had pierced my heart this morning. All of the momentum, all of the promise of "moving us beyond the 90's" has culminated into Barack Obama appointing the political face of the 90's as a top cabinet command without the requisite experience. Secretary of State? How does a one term Senator have the experience to be SOS?

Deflated and Confused.

Posted by: dcis1 | November 21, 2008 11:48 AM

rocketship 1

Just to let you know that I am not a Hillary basher ... I love the Clintons ... and supported slippery Bill even during the impeachment debacle ... biased by the hateful and disruptive behavior of Republicans piling on in the early stages on his Presidency. But, over the years, I have come to see how he sucks up all the attention and distracts us from the issues at hand. After Clinton was GW and now it is Obama ... and, with the host of democrats emerging in an Obama Administration ... I am just wondering aloud why this one nomination is taking this long. I see Bill as alaways in the way of Hillary's ambitions and career ... AND HERE WE GO AGAIN. Hillary might very well be President-Elect today had it not been Clinton brand negatives. Former President Jimmy Carter is off making peace and building houses for the poor ... Bill Clinton is off doing his own thing with his Global Initiatives ... BUT PLEASE LET US MOVE ON. This election has never been about the Clintons ... IT IS ABOUT US ... and how we work with a new President to get out of this mess. There are lot of humanitarians I admire ... Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and Ted Turner ... Thank you Bill Clinton continue your good work ... BUT PLEASE STAY OUT OF THE WAY ... as we work on serious problems Health Care, Housing, Education, Lower Taxes for the middle class. Thanks Bill for filling in as the "First Black President" ... Now we have THE REAL DEAL

Posted by: amitchell13 | November 21, 2008 11:38 AM

I normally vote Republican but this year I voted for the Libertarian Party since I knew Obama would win. I wasn't disapointed when he did because I felt the country owed him a big debt of gratitude for stopping the Clinton machine. How disappointing to see he has decided to eat dirt and accept the insults and intriques the Clintons dumped on his candidacy. I guess all politicians are the same.. do anything no matter what you believe in... the Clintons are power and fame junkies. Hillary has never done anything except marry Bill.. she would never been able to carpetbag a senate seat ad Hillary Rodham.. What a shame to see her awarded a huge prize for being Bill's wife.

Posted by: jstratt2 | November 21, 2008 11:32 AM

I`m personally very impressed by seeing Mr. Obama picking this formidable woman to be part of his so important new US-administration. There`s no reason to doubt, he`s the president and she will be loyal and faithful to him and the country. This would be part of a political team of utmost strongness and competence given the cabinet would be of similiar exceptionality as the few chosen positions already indicate.

Posted by: tedin | November 21, 2008 11:26 AM

Boy, I thought McCain made a mistake with Palin...this takes the cake.

Perahps the only pick worse than Kerry!

Posted by: oldstyl | November 21, 2008 11:22 AM

Luckily it seems Obama is smarter than his Hillary-bashing supporters. I realize not all his followers are Hillary bashers, I'm just talking about those that are.

Personally I am relieved that Obama is selecting an experienced and solid cabinet because "CHANGE" is just a word, and what the world actually needs are the most talented and serious people available to solve the enormous mass of problems we now face.

The 'visceral' hatred towards Hillary is coming from a minority segment of the American population that needs to get their priorities straight.

Posted by: rocketship1 | November 21, 2008 11:17 AM

What's wrong with "clintonite" appointments?
Clinton was one of the greatest US presidents in the second half of the 20th century. He made some serious foreign policy blunders, most notably with Yugoslavia, and
was forced to sign some stupid domestic measures by the hateful and out-of-control Republican Congress, but given his circumstances and constraints I can't think of anybody who would've done better.

Let's hope that with a friendly Congress Obama will do the things Clinton was unable to do and repair some of the things he did do under Republican pressure.

Posted by: VMR1 | November 21, 2008 11:09 AM

WHAT DID I TELL YOU

DISTRACTION ... everything surrounding the Clintons' sucks all the attention and oxygen out of the room. This is an important cabinet position ... but, there are many other cabinet posts that make up a comprehensive imprint of a New President's Administration.

If I were President-Elect Barack Obama, I will make sure that I have cover on many fronts:

Bill Clinton is still working on his legacy ... the high points of his legacy is the balooning economy, from welfare to work for minorities and the Bosnian War. Now, the economy is down the tube and his legacy is a fading memory to which independent Republicans as I am find his finger prints on an economic bubble that first began its collapse in the tech industry.

I know that Bill Clinton still thinks that he has control of the Democratic Party ... and his is trying to neutralize the President-Elect. So in this chess game ... the country has a lot of other pressing issues mostly domestic and Hillary is bright but, not the only sharp toll in the box for Secretary of State.

So call it for what it is ... a gift of appreciation for the Clintons' support; but, a wrestle with the reality that the country has moved on from the Clintons.I must say that I admire all the good work the past President Clinton is doing around the globe ... AIDs et al ... but, give GW Bush some credit, he quietly has moved his administration toward helping in some of these global problems.

Get on with it President-Elect Barack Obama or you will need a Press Conference to the people of America just to explain what is being negotiated behind the scene to get Hillary Clinton to accept your offer for her to serve as Secretary of State.

We need to build up positive emotions as you begin your presidency after January 20, 2009!! And, I need to know that you are the leader we must follow on this journey of change in Washington. It cannot be politics as usual.

For your part Mr. President-Elect ... I am happy we are having these delays in November 2008 ... because the problems facing our country is so vast that the work begins the day after inauguration ... very little honeymoon. Not the customary first 100 Days in office. This is what is making me so upset with all this Clinton stop/go/pause ... If you need to pay her campaign debt for us to move on ... let's do it ... and chose another capable candidate for Sec of State.

Posted by: amitchell13 | November 21, 2008 11:02 AM

peterdc said:
"Hillary is respected around the world. "

--

What world? Maybe YOUR world but not necessarily in the much bigger world, the one outside of the US. Don't forget that most of the world isn't even aware of the World Series.

Hillary voted for the criminal and disastrous Iraq war and refuses to apologize for her mistake. How well would THAT sit among the Muslims and the Arabs in particular?

Her husband made a mess out of Yugoslavia, backing the wrong parties in the conflict and causing a sizable yet lawless and rudderless Muslim quasi-state to emerge in southeastern Europe - that's the soon-to-be union of Kosovo and Albania.
How well would THAT sit with its Eastern Mediterranean neighbors but especially with the Russians who never forgot this.
I don't hear Hillary apologizing for that.

It was also Bill Clinton who promoted, instead of opposing it, the whole misguided and disastrous idea of globalization engineered by the Idiot Bush, Sr. Now we're pretty much on China's leash - basically borrowing from China to buy Chinese goods (or, rather, bads). And instead of drastically reducing illegal immigration from Mexico, as promised, NAFTA tripled it.
I don't hear Hillary to be concerned about THAT.

So, while in her imagination she was dodging bullets in Bosnia and is capable of pronouncing President of Russia's name [that's Med-VYE-dev; "medvyed" means "a bear" in Russian] in the real world she would be much less than ideal Secretary of State.

Posted by: VMR1 | November 21, 2008 10:58 AM

Once announced as President Elect Obama’s choice for Secretary of State and before her Senate confirmation, it will be time for Hillary Clinton to publically reinvent herself and clearly indicate her readiness and willingness to serve her country as Secretary of State under President Obama; to present her vision and indicate what her approach and her goals will be as head of the State Department. Does anyone seriously believe she lacks that capability? I wouldn’t bet against her.

Posted by: bobwestafer | November 21, 2008 10:54 AM

who won the presidency Obama or Clinton, by looking at the cabinet seems to me that we will have the Clinton presidency all over again , could we please have some democrat with a spine, I thought The Clinton saga was over as an independent voter I was fooled in 2006 again in 2008 but not in 2010

Posted by: capskip | November 21, 2008 10:49 AM

I love it...Clinton hating wingnuts from the left and right are uniting before my eyes. With that accomplishment, Obama is off to great start.

Posted by: Atispo | November 21, 2008 10:47 AM

I am still against her appointment to any cabinet position. We have done quite well without all the Clinton drama, and now we will be immersed in it again.

Big, huge mistake.

Posted by: PAVoter | November 21, 2008 10:47 AM

This so called 'hesitation' that is delaying HRC's descion as to accept/decline the SOS position is nothing more than the usual Clinton blackmail.

The Clinton's have always been about power for themselves and that will never change.
She, in concert with Bill, is simply vying for the most powerful position she can receive regardless of where that leads.

This is leading the Dem Party into internal chaos, which is just the environment that the Clinton's have resided in their entire political lives. They love it and no one in the party has the intestinal fortitude to tell them to just shut up.

Whether the Dems admit it or not the Clintons rule the party and in the process they need to keep the following in mind: "A house divided cannot stand."

Posted by: dharper2 | November 21, 2008 10:40 AM

This is a huge mistake. Hillary does not have a diplomatic bone in her body. This is pure politics and Obama will rue this choice many times. This is completely contra to all we've heard from Obama. The American people have already said we don't want Hillary Clinton back in the 'White House.' And, we all know you can't have the one without the other. It's called Hillbillary !! This is NOT smart, this is not progressive, this is regressive, this is politics at its worst.

Posted by: texace | November 21, 2008 10:36 AM

This would be the best move Obama could make. Hillary is respected around the world. While Obama is busy with the economic crisis at home Hillary will be the best possible emmissary for him to have.

No one will feel slighted if it is Hillary they meet with rather than Obama. This just gives the US an incredibly strong foreign presense. Women around the world will applaud this appointment as will most women in the US.

It is time to get over the Hillary bashing and take a lead from President Obama and realize how great an addition to this administration she will be.

When this appointment is recieving Kudo's from everyone from Kissinger to Sharpton you have to feel it is right. Republican Senators like Kyle and Graham are applauding it as well as many liberal Senators on the Democratic side.

It is a show by Obama that it is time to set aside our differences and work together to bring back America's reputation around the world and there is no one better qualified and able to help him do that than Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: peterdc | November 21, 2008 10:33 AM

Could we please have a Secretary of State that at least speaks a foreign language?
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Many people who speak foreign languages have no ability to discern the motives of their adversaries.

If they are socially or diplomatically obtuse in their native tongue, they will be diplomatically obtuse in French, too.

So, the technical ability doesn't mean a thing, I fail to see why so many think this is a necessary qualification.


You can't teach astute diplomatic instincts the same way you teach a language.

And I hope she brings Holbrooke on, too.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | November 21, 2008 10:16 AM

Obama: Same you can believe in.

At least he is selecting people with experience in governance. Although I didn't vote for him, I'm willing to give him a chance, my snark above notwithstanding.

Posted by: MajorConfusion | November 21, 2008 10:12 AM

Dear Lord, preserve us! The clown who blew through more money than anyone ever accumulated to run for president then mismanaged a camapign she was destined to win now will assume control over one of the largest directorates in the government! What is this guy thinking? Change we can believe in has arrived along with Bill and his pack...watch the people she brings into State. It will look like clinton II with the incompetence of the carter reign of terror. If we can just survive until 2010 as a Nation, the Republicans will sweep back into office and we will have the return of sanity to the difficult job of governing the Country. Pray that day arrives sooner than we anticipate.

Posted by: djudge1 | November 21, 2008 10:06 AM

Barack Obama’s decision to offer Hillary Clinton the Secretary of State post could well turn out to be his first major blunder, for these obvious reasons:

First, there’s the inseparable bond with her husband Bill. Given the duo’s unquenchable thirst for power, they would not be content to play second fiddle. From day one they would be scheming to usurp control of the White House. Once they get a foothold, Obama would be hard-pressed to rein them in.

Then, there’s the Clintons’ long history of corruption, deception and sleaze—Whitewatergate, Pardongate, Cattle-futuresgate, Chinagate, Filegate, Fellatiogate, the impeachment and near conviction, the punitive IRS audits, the violent deaths of potentially incriminating witness. This alone would provide Obama’s enemies with all the grime they needed to smear his presidency.

Consider further that unlike a Condoleezza Rice or a Madelaine Albright—not to mention bona fide statesmen like Henry Kissinger, Dean Rusk and John Foster Dulles--Hillary Clinton lacks the educational and cultural gravitas to represent our nation abroad. Her lawyering in Arkansas and stint in Congress doesn’t quite cut it. She did get 18 million votes in the Democratic primaries, probably more than Obama, but a large proportion of those votes were cast by diehard feminists and the less educated, hardly the constituency whose support lends credibility to a Secretary of State.

Barack Obama should recall the reasons why he didn’t choose Hillary as his VP running mate. For his and the nation’s sake, let us hope that she doesn’t accept his Secretary of State offer.

Posted by: Carlossss | November 21, 2008 10:00 AM

Could we please have a Secretary of State that at least speaks a foreign language? Clinton is qualified for every cabinet post except State Department and Defense.

Posted by: dbaker1 | November 21, 2008 9:49 AM

rgn1- LOL!

Monica Lewinski?

I had heard she became a Republican.

Seems the last Dimocrat President left a Bad Taste! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | November 21, 2008 9:39 AM

Texan2007-LOL! :-D

Are YOU referring to Bill RichardSON?

Well, I guess Two Texas Towns are missing their fools!-Hey! It's a BIG State!

Personally, I do not feel I need to add a single comment about what Barack has shown so far;

The World's Stocks reflect the anticipated results perfectly, and waaayyyyy to Powerfully!

I am understanding Dante's Inferno about Now!

"Abandon all hope..."

Posted by: SAINT---The | November 21, 2008 9:35 AM

Trick me once Mr. Obama shame on you, trick me twice shame on me. It appears that your idea of creating a new and bright future for America is a regurgitated Clinton White House. I and many other AMericans fell for your rhetoric and will not be tricked again. It is ironic that you should profess to be a born again President Lincoln. The only thing you have in common with our 16th president is that his bedroom will obviously once again be up for sale once you get your pseudo Clinton administration in place. Maybe Monica is still available for a position on your team. But then....SecState Clinton (aka GI Jane) will provide tremendous comedy routines for Saturday Night Live as she dons her flack jacket and helmet once again to defend America. Maybe this time she can carry a bayonet between her teeth just for the drama.

Posted by: rgn1 | November 21, 2008 9:31 AM

Very good!!!!
Congratulations!!

Posted by: AnaSiqueira | November 21, 2008 9:25 AM

This is going to be a major mistake for Obama. There is way too much Clinton baggage for this to be a good decision. It appears from news articles that the Clintons are the ones making demands, sorting through their problems (Bill), etc. It wasn't a good idea to select her for Vice President so why would it be a good idea for Secretary of State? I hope for the Obama presidency as well as our country that this has been thought through carefully. Also, what is going to happen when Bill does not behave himself?

Posted by: oliver6 | November 21, 2008 9:04 AM

So this is their idea of change? Old Clinton cronies? Same old crap. How could I have been so foolish to believe things would be different this time. Watch your back Obama.

Posted by: hatman2317 | November 21, 2008 8:56 AM

The Secretary of State job completely eliminates any involvement of Mrs. Clinton in health care, which is where her real experience and expertise lies.

Her diplomatic experience is nil. She travelled with her husband and visited kindergartens while the boys talked. The foreign leaders she met 16 years ago are all long out of office or dead.

Posted by: dunnhaupt | November 21, 2008 8:56 AM

Obama would not have been elected had Hillary Clinton not campaigned selflessly for him. Period. He should name her Sec. of State, a position she is more than qualified for and one that will help us throughout the world. Who can do a better job? Bill Richards? Compared to Hillary Clinton that is a joke. She is the most qualified candidate.

Posted by: Texan2007 | November 21, 2008 8:53 AM

Umm... my darling agriestdogintheworld...It was Fox News, I beleve that broke the Rev. Wright story. She never touched it. Never talked ran ads on it, never did mail on it, never sad a word about it exceot once. She saud, "He wouldn't have been my pastor." That was it. And it was after Obama renounced him.

I do enjoy watching the Hillary-haters heads explode.

Posted by: stephanie2 | November 21, 2008 8:48 AM

"Why not pick General Powell?"

Didn't he get his shot at Secretary of State? Didn't he stand up their and give that speech to the UN that knowingly featured cooked intelligence and lead to the invasion of Iraq? Am I missing something here? Didn't he lay his credibility down in support of W? Why would we want Powell? Is it because he is black? I can't think of any other reason.

Posted by: hdimig | November 21, 2008 8:47 AM

"Elisabethskoven, what do you like Hillary for? Do you feel the recession falling into depression already or not? She contributed a lot for it."

? How? Specifics please.

Posted by: hdimig | November 21, 2008 8:42 AM

Obama and the Democrats worked so hard to completely discredit Hillary Clinton that this is a surprising move - more surprising than McCain picking Palin as his VP.

Unfortunately Obama and his party have turned most Americans against any and all women. Just read the Post for the daily rants on the incompetence of women and the comments for the hatred directed towards women.

No matter what, with Obama all women are losers. Hillary's appointment will just be the opportunity to make her the butt of late night TV jokes and the focus of CNN criticism while King Obama keeps all American women in place - right under his handsome thumb.

Posted by: mgd1 | November 21, 2008 8:27 AM


I think Sen Hillary Clinton would be most successful as Secretary of State with the rich expertise of the former president Bill Clinton available to her and to the coming President Barack Obama; at the global level grave issues will have to be confronted like global economic downslide; turning tensions into globally accepted peace; reactivating the UN in world affairs; once the UN is let to work its own way, the regional, continental and world disputes/issues could be resolved as on UN role no nation can have objections; therefore only a globalist in approach and vision can help reduce tensions into peace realities;President-elect Barack Obama is fortunate to have the Clintons' sagacity and global input;

Posted by: nuqshbandymohrvi | November 21, 2008 8:15 AM

Good. This then concludes all of H Clinton's presidential campaigns. It's a good idea so she, Bill, and their Arkansas mofia cronies can do their "business" oversees instead of polluting America--we have enough shady real-estate deals as it is.

Posted by: NovaMike | November 21, 2008 8:10 AM

Elisabethskoven, what do you like Hillary for? Do you feel the recession falling into depression already or not? She contributed a lot for it. Do you still like her? For the country and for Obama's presidency it is, certainly, much better if the woman is eaten outside of the country. I hope that it would happen. Obama is a lucky and wise man.

Posted by: aepelbaum | November 21, 2008 8:02 AM

I thought Hillary was the next closest thing to Socialism and Communism. That was before Obama. Obama makes Hillary look like a Moderate Republican. I wonder if Hillary and Bill ever ran into Obama at the Black Panter Convention.

I wonder if this will get Rick Lazio to run again for the Senate in New York?

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | November 21, 2008 7:52 AM

Lucky us! Economy's going down faster than a hooker on a Saturday night and we get two turkeys for Thanksgiving. BAD MOVE!

Posted by: NotBubba | November 21, 2008 6:59 AM

Tune in tonight to watch Chris Matthews head explode as he announces the Hillary Clinton appointment! Joining him with simultaneous head explosions will be Christopher Hitchens and Michelle Bernard and a remote shot from NM Gov. Richardson. The place to be--MSNBC!

Posted by: rdklingus | November 21, 2008 6:52 AM

This appointment is incredibly disappointing.

On the one hand, it is offering a bone to the many strident supporters of HRC, a group that Obama clearly feels he must reward for their turnabout in supporting him.

But among the electorate as a whole, HRC had unusually high negatives--she is a polarizing figure to an extent that few candidates can match. Our foreign enemies know this and they will exploit her lack of credibility among the American people themselves---they know the people are not behind her wholeheartedly.

McCain disappointed us by picking Sarah Palin as his running mate. But now by promoting a polarizing figure like Hillary to such a critical role, Obama disappoints many of us even more. He seems to have no idea how viscerally disliked she is by a significant number of the electorate. How can she be effective on the international stage? Why not pick General Powell?

Posted by: Bluefish2012 | November 21, 2008 6:37 AM

Why the Tear Bag at all? Didn't she & the husband pull every dirty white-trash trick in the book to derail BO? This insanity atop the clintonization of the Obama appointments shows the "change" all thought was coming, which had inspired America, was just BO BS. Of the Demos' top four liars, the impeached & disbarred Lord of the Stain, Sarajevo Sally, the Guy Who Plagiarized Neil Kinnock and the Cornpone Narcissus (remember HIM?), only the fourth is out of the loop ... for now.
Ms. Inevitable's open practice & advocacy of the alternative lifestyle & her pushy promotion of abortion on demand, homosexual "rights", marriage & adoption and trannying the military are REALLY going to make us friends and influence people in the Umma, as if the disappointed and disappointing Condi, still bidderless in the souq, weren't bad enough.
Can Foggy Bottom stand the stench and the de facto rule of Huma Abedin? None seems to have noticed the connection between "Abedin" and the expression used by Zawahri to serve notice upon the apostate.
All expected "change," but this is stultifying and should serve rightfully to disaffect MorOn, the Daily Klutz, Rev. Wrong and even Father Pflegm from their hollow creation, who's turning out to be the Disgusting Duo's abd el-beit, not quite what the country thought it had elected.
It must be dildo time at Tiffany's.

Posted by: sawargos | November 21, 2008 6:08 AM

Once announced as President Elect Obama’s choice for Secretary of State and before her Senate confirmation, it will be time for Hillary Clinton to reinvent herself and clearly indicate her readiness and willingness to serve her country as Secretary of State under President Obama; to present her vision and indicate what her approach and her goals will be as head of the State Department. Does anyone seriously believe she lacks that capability? I wouldn’t bet against her.

Posted by: bobwestafer | November 21, 2008 4:17 AM

Rudeness and negativity against Obama during campaign is being rewarded with top post, christian clemence or hidden deal ? Now the pres will be minoritarian in a Clinton administration.

Posted by: supporter | November 21, 2008 4:04 AM

Obama CHANGE all just fell by the way side. One would earnestly hope that he will never nominate Hillary for the SOS. Of what the public saw during the primary season, the madam has no diplomatic skills, inkling, demeanor, capacity or real experience. She will be a cow in a China shop.

With all these dinosaurs OBAMA idea of CHANGE was just another election hoax.

Posted by: winemaster2 | November 21, 2008 2:01 AM

the missing piece in this puzzle, wrapped in an enigma is that when Rodham Clinton "used" Rev. Wright and the black church as political wedge issues for hard working white people she ended her career in the Senate. She can not be re-elected. She has lost "enough" of the black vote in the New York borough to insure that she "would" be challenged in the primary (18 months)... no doubt by a black candidate, which is not all bad as when Obama resigned his seat, there are no black senators.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | November 21, 2008 1:48 AM

Not so fast, people...if HRC gets confirmed, there's a host of great people who will end up not getting the appointments they should have. HRC=Drama. The "Team of Rivals" thing doesn't always work. Worked for Seward, but HRC is more like Salmon P Chase, who constantly tried to undermine Lincoln and never quit running for president.

Not sure how we got this far considering her lack of foreign policy experience (and I would also say that Obama would not have made an adequate SoS) and more negatively, her very differing views on foreign policy that will definitely have a hard time reconciling with Obama's views. Can't wait for this to be over...I thought we could have a bit longer of a break from Clinton drama but I guess I was wrong.

Posted by: atwl | November 21, 2008 1:07 AM

PREDICTION: SHE WON'T ACCEPT SEC/STATE -- SO SHE CAN BE SENATE TOP DOG

DID A CLEVER OBAMA GESTURE TURN INTO A HILLARY POWER PLAY?

IF SO, MAYBE HE WILL CO-OPT HER AGAIN BY MAKING HER SENATE MAJORITY LEADER...


Could it be that President-elect Obama raised the Hillary Clinton as SecState talk as a way to enhance her stature and secure her allegiance, believing that Bill's financial dealings would leave her no choice but to withdraw her name from consideration?

And could it be that once the idea was floated, the Clintons, being natural-born power players, couldn't resist the chance to call his bluff, making Obama look like he could be kow-towed -- as opposed to helping him project a confident "team of rivals" image?

Obama does need the Clintons to help him nagivate through shark-infested waters; he can use all the allies he can muster, because it's likely that certain elements among the security complex are not thrilled with the prospect of Obama as president.

But Obama also has pledged to uphold high ethical standards, and to impose strict rules against even the appearance of conflict of interest.

Thus, the cunundrum. This was a high-stakes game that Obama did not have to play. He vanquished Hillary; certainly a lesser offer than SoS would have sufficed.

Here's a dramatic way out that leaves all parties whole, and then some: Democrats on the left and in the center are less than enthralled with Harry Reid's Senate leadership. Why not work with the Senate Democratic elders to find a way to hop-scotch Hillary to the Majority Leader's post? Doesn't the Waxman ousting of Dingell as House commerce committee chair set something of a precedent for the higher chamber?

Why not go all the way to shatter the seniority system by hoisting Hillary to the top Senate party post? It certainly would solve two problems at once -- especially if Obama aggressively lobbies for Hillary's case -- again bringing the Clintons back into his celestial orbit.

BUT WILL THE ELECTION EVEN MATTER?

Not as long as government-supported extrajudicial "vigilante injustice" targeting squads are "gang stalking" American citizens, making a mockery of the rule of law:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-gestapo-state-supported-terrorism-targets-u-s-citizens

OR members.nowpublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | November 21, 2008 12:30 AM

With Clinton, Obama will have a great cabinet ... America expects great things from him & his people.

Posted by: gatorsn09 | November 21, 2008 12:08 AM

Michelle won't have it, you media FOOL. You're acting like dumb horses in a troika trying to reach a carrot that's too far out in front of your chops. It's going to be Gov. Richardson 'cause O's no fool.

Posted by: lockmallup | November 20, 2008 11:33 PM

Hillary as SOS with Bill by her side would be good for America, and good for Obama. Most leaders of other countries would see this as positive for America.


Posted by: Billw3 | November 20, 2008 11:27 PM

"Anybody who hasn't seen the 1-minute clip of world leaders refusing to shake the hand of George Bush at the G-20 summit is in for a true eye-opener. Our world-wide reputation is at rock-bottom. It can only go up from here."

Actually, this needs to be put into proper context. Bush had already shook all the hands of world leaders prior to this photo, whereas, the other leaders had not had this prior opportunity, so there's more to this than meets the eye...

Having said that, Hillary will be an outstanding SOS, if indeed she accepts. I'm an ardent HRC supporter, and am ambivalent about wanting her to take SOS or stay NY Senator. I wish her and the country the best!!

Posted by: karenmb | November 20, 2008 10:59 PM

Our next Secretary of State and President will be in a winning situation from the get-go.

Why?

Anybody who hasn't seen the 1-minute clip of world leaders refusing to shake the hand of George Bush at the G-20 summit is in for a true eye-opener. Our world-wide reputation is at rock-bottom. It can only go up from here.

Check the video out at:
http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/11/video-that-shows-what-world-leaders.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | November 20, 2008 10:51 PM

Couldn't be happier :-) I'm from Denmark and in Denmark we love Hillary! Best pick ever!

Posted by: elisabethskoven | November 20, 2008 10:44 PM

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