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McCain in Pennsylvania: I'm a 'Coal Booster'

By Juliet Eilperin
SCRANTON, Pa. -- Campaigning in coal-rich Pennsylvania, GOP presidential nominee John McCain pledged this afternoon that if elected president, he would ensure that the U.S. exports coal overseas -- something that U.S. policy already permits.

At the same time, the McCain campaign and Republican National Committee reportedly launched robocalls in Ohio, Pennsylvania and other coal states attacking Sen. Barack Obama's position on coal.

Mocking Obama for a comment he made in an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle in January -- "The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster," Obama had said -- McCain promised the audience at the University of Scranton that he's been a proud coal cheerleader in the past, and plans to be one in the future.

"My friends, you know what Senator Obama said about a year ago, he said he had not been a, quote, coal booster," he said, as the crowd booed. "My friends, I've been a coal booster and it's going to create jobs, and we're going to export coal to other countries and we are going to create hundreds of thousands of jobs. That's going to help restore the economy of the great state of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania."

In practice, coal exports amount to a tiny fraction the coal produced in the U.S. According to the Energy Information Administration, only 2 percent of overall U.S. coal production was exported in 2007. But the coal issue is one Republicans hope will resonate as they seek to close the gap in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

ABC News reported this afternoon that the McCain campaign and RNC are making robocalls in Ohio, Pennsylvania and other coal-producing states warning against Obama as inadequately supportive of coal. "I'm calling on behalf of John McCain and the RNC to tell you that coal jobs, which are so important to our community are in jeopardy," says the voice on the robocall, which goes on to accuse Obama of planning "to bankrupt the coal industry."

Like McCain, the calls are making an issue of Obama's January remarks to the Chronicle while discussing his cap-and-trade program. "So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted," Obama had said, according to a transcript from Newsbusters.org, a project of the conservative Media Research Center.

Some environmental advocates questioned why McCain -- who spoke frequently about the need to curb climate change during the primary season but has largely jettisoned that line in favor of one touting oil drilling -- is pushing for increased coal production, since it's one of the main drivers of global warming.

"U.S. coal exports is a way for the U.S. to export global warming pollution," said Dan Weiss, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, in an interview. "Instead, we should be exporting wind and solar technology."

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Work in a coal mine and then preach. It kills you sooner than later. Send Mc Cain down there. Wake up my friend. 8 years is enough. Mc Cain says don't let Obama scare you. How much more can you be scared, yellow,orange, red. Enough already, Also put a real vet up on the stage less limbs. He has suffered so very little. Screw joe the plumber, how you must be ashamed. That is all the Republicans have said. Please correct me if I am wrong. I love America.

Posted by: justada56 | November 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Work in a coal mine and then preach. It kills you sooner than later. Send Mc Cain down there. Wake up my friend. 8 years is enough. Mc Cain says don't let Obama scare you. How much more can you be scared, yellow,orange, red. Enough already, Also put a real vet up on the stage less limbs. He has suffered so very little. Screw joe the plumber, how you must be ashamed. That is all the Republicans have said. Please correct me if I am wrong. I love America.

Posted by: justada56 | November 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I certainly understand that. But how many Americans are making $30,000.00 a year. I also worked in a steel mill before filtration. Coal well kill as my jobs well kill me. Why is this not mentioned. You all must be richer than us, that's a fact.

May your God Bless you all.

Posted by: justada56 | November 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

If McCain is such a coal booster, I suggest he volunteers to do a shift in one. Preferably a longwall about 3ft high. Let him beat up his hands and knees, suck down the dust, and put up with the heat and noise for a shift or two - then he can tell us how great it is, and how he would love to do that on a daily basis.

My maternal grandfather was killed in a coal mine, my paternal grandfather died from the effects of coal dust inhalation, I still cannot kneel for long periods due to having crawled up and down a longwall for years.

Yeah John, tell me again how great it is to be a coal miner!

Posted by: Limey51 | November 3, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"How can anyone who is not a millionaire cheer John McCain, who has said he wants to extend the tax breaks for the wealthiest instead of returning the tax for them to what it was during the Clinton administration, as Obama proposes?"
BettyW1

Betty, I know ten thousand or more coal miners in West Virginia this morning who are waking up to read the Spectator and none are millionaires, yet all are questioning any support they may have had for Obama.
Bill Clinton said in 1988 that removing the cap on social secutity taxes was "regressive...no one wants to." THAT'S Exactly what Obama wants to do- it will hurt small business. Obama cleverly claims that 98% of small businesses make under 250k and therefore won't be hurt. He conveniently leaves out the fact that ALL SMALL businesses are included in his figure- EBAY sellers who work at home by themselves, for example. 50% of all small business INCOME will suffer additional heavy taxes due to Obama's unprecidented move.
His "most aggressive cap and trade policy"- his words- will put tens of thousands of coal workers out of work across the country- New Mexico, Colorado, W. Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Alabama, Kentucky, and Virginis. WHO WILL EMPLOY THESE PEOPLE? THE SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ARE BEING MORE HEAVILY TAXED?

The NY Times last week covered the horrible jobs picture in Rhode Island- 8.8% unemployment as the state with the highest cumulative business taxes-

Wake up Betty, don't cut off your nose to spite your face, by voting for Obama in order to "stick it" to Exxon/Mobile and in turn ruining the entire job creating small and medium sized business sector in our great country.

Millionaires, like Penny Pritzker and Barbara Streisand can AFFORD to support Obama Betty- we can't.

Posted by: thecannula | November 3, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Being a Canadian, I guess I just don't get it with all respect. Why would you vote for same after 8 years and a once powerful and gracious Country falling, and fast.
Nothing but sorrow for all of you. Your brave young men and women don't have a job, a home, nor proper medical aid to hope for if and when they come home. All you people are having a bugger of a time. Just explain with respect for my ignorance. You are our nieghbours and best friends.
And before you judge me, I believe in being able to protect yourself with a fire arm. A cash of semi automatics is a different story. But the issue is, your in a mess. May your God Bless you all.

Posted by: justada56 | November 3, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

New Obama Shock Audio

Another jaw-dropping clip from the SF Chronicle/Gate "coal" interview:

Obama: "Under my plan of a Cap & Trade system ELECTRICITY RATES WOULD NECESSARILY SKYROCKET"

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e46U2Gnzpr

Bankrupting Coal is only part of his grand scheme.

Obama's advocating "skyrocketing" electrical rates is another that affects everyone: every household, every business.

And it spells economic disaster for the US economy as this plan would be unilateral. Other countries would not be affected and will be much more competitive vs. the cost of US-produced goods with sky-high energy costs, artificially inflated by the extreme anti-global warming Obama Cap, Trade, & Redistribute plan.

Please listen and spread this around.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e46U2Gnzpr

Posted by: lezident | November 3, 2008 7:35 AM | Report abuse


Let's cut to the chase. Barack Obama is a voice of reason and unity. He has repeatedly said he intends to develop clean coal. Over and over again and he will get it done!! That equates to more jobs for the coal industry. Get and deal with it!

Please vote for the calm voice who will reach across the aisle and across America to bring out the best in all of us and reject the hysteria and fear mongering that has infected this Republican campaign.

Dozens of top Republican thinkers have rejected the hostile wailings of these irresponsible and undereducated demagogues and you should too!

Posted by: robertchoward | November 3, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

The West Virginia Record
11-2-08

The senior vice president of the West Virginia Coal Association called Obama's comments "unbelievable."

"His comments are unfortunate," Chris Hamilton said Sunday, "and really reflect a very uninformed voice and perspective to coal specifically and energy generally."

Hamilton noted other times Obama and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden have made seemingly anti-coal statements.

"In Ohio recently, when Joe Biden said 'not here' about building coal-fired power plants -- this is exactly what will happen," Hamilton said. "Financing won't be directed here. It will all go aboard for plants elsewhere in the world. The United Sates is importing more coal today from Indonesia, South Africa and Colombia than we ever have.

"If we're going to create a situation where coal-fired power plants are at that much of a disadvantage, there will be new ones built. But as Biden said, just not here."

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's state director said Obama's statements are troubling, especially for West Virginians.

"I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal," Ben Beakes(Chief of Staff, WV Secretary of State's Office)said Sunday. "Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters - that's what we have to take as gospel.

"They're definitely not friends of coal."

Beakes noted other examples of Obama and Biden making seemingly anti-coal statements, such as in February when Obama said he'd like to tax "dirty energy" such as coal and natural gas.

"And their cohorts in Congress make similar statements," Beakes said. "(Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said this summer that 'coal makes us sick.'

"This is an attitude and view that, to me, shows their hatred of coal. And therefore, their view would cost West Virginians thousands upon thousands of jobs."

Beakes touted McCain's view toward coal.

"John McCain has embraced coal," Beakes said. "He doesn't agree with everything in the coal industry, but his view of coal is positive. He will make it part of his energy policy. He's met with leaders in the coal industry and let them know that. He's sought advice from coal industry leaders.

"McCain understands that coal supports about 49 percent of our electricity in this country. He'll continue to make coal important. He wants to reduce our foreign dependency on oil."

Obama's Coal Policy-
Bad for jobs
Bad for Energy Independence
Bad for Affordable Electricity
(just like his Illinois Corn Ethanol Policy is Bad for food prices AND does Nothing for energy independence)

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Where is the McCain of old who at least nodded agreement that we ought to be fighting global warming to ensure a livable world for our children.

Now it's 'burn baby burn" (coal).

'course guv Sarah doesn't think global warming is man made (probably learned that in one of her many college science courses, or church).

McCain flip flopping on global warming is just another "he'll do anything to get elected" situation.

Flip flop on abortion.

Flip flop on immigration.

Flip flop on honor and dignity.

Do we want a president who will say and do anything to get elected? Can we trust him to tell us the truth ever again?

Lying to the people is just one more way that McCain is the same as Bush/Cheney.

Posted by: merleb | November 2, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

As Ben Smith noted, "Obama and McCain support similar cap-and-trade systems, which would make it prohibitively expensive to build new coal plants with existing, high-emissions technology. "

So how does that make him a coal booster? Or did he forget his position?

More sad and sorry dreams from the failed GOP.

Look, the real issue is McCain and the GOP wasted all this time bashing Obama rather than giving us moderates any reason to vote FOR mccain (small letters deliberate.) Then he picked a veep who appreciates being in a Hustler porno, from the crank call, because she's not smart enough to be listening to what the punker is saying to her. The point of this coal excerpt will not sway the coal region it was released to play to. Even they are tired of the issues of coal. Even they are aware that McCain and Obama have the same position on this 'Cap and Trade' issue.

McCain said it would not be a good investment for stockholders to be involved with a coal plant. Basically, the same position - coal is not gonna make money for you.

America needs to go green. Sarah Palin, you'll recall, said 'drill baby drill' at a green manufacturer of solar panels. Not so smart. Maytag left Newton, Iowa. A wind farm maker took its place. So it shall be with coal. Green will replace it. Bush's 'clean air act' is a sham.

So we have progress and a smarter choice in Barack Obama. What is there to be afraid of....Oh, right. Fewer hooked up lobbyists and inside deal makers will get his ear.

Posted by: kravitzkravitz | November 2, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

thecannula=troll

actually, it means more like 'hose' which fits the constant running at the mouth.

Where are you planning on emigrating to on Wednesday? You looking for a country less progressive than the Bush/Cheney America? Try Iran, or North Korea.


Posted by: merleb | November 2, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse


Obama's promise to let coal based energy prices to SKYROCKET will essentially be a massive tax to all Americans. His energy policy is the one that is essentially bankrupt and he doesn't to be elected kindergarten president.

Posted by: Rezko2Raines | November 2, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse


Pennsylvania and Virginia are the two major coal producing states which do not have early voting...wonder how Obama's boasting, that his, the most aggressive cap and trade policy will bankrupt coal plants, will go over on Tuesday, given that it's bad for jobs, bad for energy independence, bad for affordable electricity, and bad for Virginia's and Pennsylvania's families?

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

"their view would cost West Virginians thousands upon thousands of jobs."

Hey torrito- are YOU laughing at putting coal miners in W Virginia, Colorado, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Ohio out of work? How are you going to employ them?- Oh, I know you will immediately convert them all to solar panel assemblers overnight....or would they collect checks from Obama instead?

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Harry Reid D-Nevada
"Coal Makes Us Sick"
Wait, if Obama is elected, Who's going to veto Pelosi and Reid?

"Beakes noted other examples of Obama and Biden making seemingly anti-coal statements, such as in February when Obama said he'd like to tax "dirty energy" such as coal and natural gas.

"And their cohorts in Congress make similar statements," Beakes said. "(Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said this summer that 'coal makes us sick.'

"This is an attitude and view that, to me, shows their hatred of coal. And therefore, their view would cost West Virginians thousands upon thousands of jobs."

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

...and Colorado, and Indiana...hee hee, WAIT
Ohio,
Pennsylvania,
West Virginia,
Indiana,
Colorado,
pretty soon torrito's going to stop laughing....but he's just a "retired guy" for whom none of this is a great concern, right?

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

HeeHee. The President of the West Virginia Coal Association?

Ok Ok....McLame can have West Virginia.
(and Ohio, and Pennsylvania....)
torrito

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

HeeHee. The President of the West Virginia Coal Association?

Ok Ok....McLame can have West Virginia.

The GOP has done so much for that fine state. I'm sure they are thankful for all that Bush has done for them.

Keep that gun and religion. You will need the gun to hunt a meal and the church soup kitchen when you're out of work.

Its what you get when you vote Republican.

Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

fmoolten - they DON'T agree- BHO is quoted as boasting HIS CAP AND TRADE POLICY IS "MORE AGGRESSIVE (read punitive)THAN ANYONE ELSE'S OUT THERE"!

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

The West Virginia Record
11-2-08

The senior vice president of the West Virginia Coal Association called Obama's comments "unbelievable."

"His comments are unfortunate," Chris Hamilton said Sunday, "and really reflect a very uninformed voice and perspective to coal specifically and energy generally."

Hamilton noted other times Obama and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden have made seemingly anti-coal statements.

"In Ohio recently, when Joe Biden said 'not here' about building coal-fired power plants -- this is exactly what will happen," Hamilton said. "Financing won't be directed here. It will all go aboard for plants elsewhere in the world. The United Sates is importing more coal today from Indonesia, South Africa and Colombia than we ever have.

"If we're going to create a situation where coal-fired power plants are at that much of a disadvantage, there will be new ones built. But as Biden said, just not here."

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's state director said Obama's statements are troubling, especially for West Virginians.

"I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal," Ben Beakes(Chief of Staff, WV Secretary of State's Office)said Sunday. "Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters - that's what we have to take as gospel.

"They're definitely not friends of coal."

Beakes noted other examples of Obama and Biden making seemingly anti-coal statements, such as in February when Obama said he'd like to tax "dirty energy" such as coal and natural gas.

"And their cohorts in Congress make similar statements," Beakes said. "(Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said this summer that 'coal makes us sick.'

"This is an attitude and view that, to me, shows their hatred of coal. And therefore, their view would cost West Virginians thousands upon thousands of jobs."

Beakes touted McCain's view toward coal.

"John McCain has embraced coal," Beakes said. "He doesn't agree with everything in the coal industry, but his view of coal is positive. He will make it part of his energy policy. He's met with leaders in the coal industry and let them know that. He's sought advice from coal industry leaders.

"McCain understands that coal supports about 49 percent of our electricity in this country. He'll continue to make coal important. He wants to reduce our foreign dependency on oil."

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

This is one of the sillier attacks of the campaign, as well as one of the more dishonest. Obama, like McCain, advocates reduction in CO2 emissions via clean coal technology. Anyone listening to the audiotape (which is cut and spliced) will hear no plan to bankrupt the coal industry, but only to make the construction of new coal-fired plans prohibitively expensive if they don't utilize technology to reduce carbon emissions. There is no mention of punitive measures directed against existing facilities. Almost every scientist familiar with climate change would endorse that view as a minimum requirement, and it's fortunate that this is one area where Obama and McCain agree.

Fred Moolten

Posted by: fmoolten | November 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Indiana coal production: 35 million short tons or 3.1% of the U. S. total - and falling.

Coal fired electrical plants need to be built in China - not here.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

aunti: Stats for coal production by state are readily available on your computer.

You need only look.

:-)

Counseling will be provided by your local effete liberal on Wednesday for the near hysterical or morbidly depressed.

Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to mention Indiana as well. You're pretty handy with those stats, Torrito. Where are you getting your talking points?

Those fools who work in the coal industry or supply goods and services to it (which would make millions of working folks, many unionized) depend on this industry for their survival as does the nation. Elitist liberal snobs would turn their noses up at those folks.

The point is that there are no alternatives to replace coal, nor any alternatives that Obama or his surrogates can implement or build any time soon. Dumb.

Posted by: AuntiZeituni | November 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Aunti: Virgina produced 25 million tons of coal last year - down 15% in one year and falling steadily since 2001.

Colorado produced 36 million short tons - virtually flat production since 2001. Both are about half or less of Pennsylvania production and all three in total represent only a ripple compared to Wyoming.

Not exactly "coal" states.....:-)

You're gonna need more than that....see your here Wednesday.

Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Heehee. I see all the wingnuts got their latest talking points from MacLame's campaign headquarters.

Talking about coal in Pennsylvania?

The U.S produced 1,145.6 million short tons of coal in 2007.

Know how much Pa. produced?

65 million short tons - about what it produced in 2001.

Pennsylvania has been producing less and less of the total coal produced in the U.S.

Remember when Pittsburgh was an industrial slag heap? Blame bid goal.

Nobody wants coal mines in their backyard except the doodaas in West Virginia.

Know who produces the most coal by far?
Wyoming at 453 million short tons. That's one reason nobody lives there. Home of Dick Cheney.

Besides, its already red.

Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Torrito, you are incorrect: Fools in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia and Colorado (among many others) gladly have coal in their backyards. These fools provide this nation with more than 50 percent of its power.

Obama screwed up big time very late in the game.

Posted by: AuntiZeituni | November 2, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"Clinging to Guns and Religion"-
BHO in SFrancisco

Closing the deal-
(IBD/TIPP @2- Most Accurate in 2004
NBC/Mason Dixon- McCain leading NC/Ohio/Mo)

By Salena Zito
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, November 2, 2008

The narrative of this historic presidential election has come down to which candidate will close the deal and win the trust of Pennsylvania voters.

From the outside looking in, Pennsylvania has become a metaphor for all that is wrong with our country when it comes to race -- especially those of its Democrats who are soft on or wary of Barack Obama.

Yet on the inside, Pennsylvania is far from its broad-brush portrayal as racist. It is not the color of the candidate; it is the culture he represents.

Say what you will, Obama's "spread the wealth" tongue-slip hit home here.

Most Pennsylvania Democrats who live outside of Philadelphia are very Midwestern in their values and their votes.

If they lose their jobs, they go out and get two more to make up for the loss. They do not take handouts and they don't whine; they provide for themselves and their families.

Their voting patterns and other traditions passed along to their sons and daughter will help to decide this election.


"In an odd way, many liberals are tone-deaf about normal people, who worship God, country, sports and their communities and don't care all that much about politics," says former Villanova political scientist Bob Maranto.

Maranto says what's causing Pennsylvania voters to give Obama a second look goes beyond Obama's "share the wealth" notion: "They are suspicious of him and his Ivy League buddies who have never run anything in their lives (but) that now want to run the country."

He adds that "it is all in the arrogance."

Liberal Democrats often have a hard time in this state because they don't understand why voters in poor, rural areas don't "vote their pocketbooks." Frankly, these are not very materialistic people; if you live in Johnstown or in Elk County and you care that much about money, then you will leave for better opportunities in the big city.

People who stay behind don't care as much about money as they care about their families or communities.

To ambitious politicians such as Obama or running mate Joe Biden, that's just crazy; they can't imagine folks who care more about family or community than about getting ahead.

Much the same can be said for the Pittsburgh region, where many people live within a few miles of where they grew up.

Who will close the deal in Pennsylvania? The polls say Obama; the pundits, too.

Let's see what the voters say.

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

LET'S TALK COAL- OBAMA'S AGAINST IT AND McCAIN'S FOR IT- (anything else?)

Sunday, November 02, 2008
Gateway Pundit
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO-- Obama Promises San Francisco Audience He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry!!

OBAMA TOLD A SAN FRANCISCO AUDIENCE THAT HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY!!!

ATTN: Coal states Virginia , OHIO, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and Indiana, guess what Obama told San Francisco about you?

OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY:

from his talk to the San Francisco Chronicle in January 2008:


"Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them."


This goes hand-in-hand with what he's said about nuclear energy.
His preconditions make it impossible to expand nuclear energy at this time.
From The Wall Street Journal:


On nuclear power, Sen. Obama says he's open to expanding nuclear energy, which now provides 20% of the nation's electricity, as part of an effort to increase power sources that emit little or no carbon dioxide. But he also has said there is no future for expanded nuclear energy until the U.S. comes up with a safe, long-term solution for disposing of nuclear waste. He opposes the Bush administration's plan for storing waste at Yucca Mountain in Nevada.

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

When Obama wins on Tuesday effete liberals will be providing local counseling for the hysterical and or severely depressed first thing Wednesday morning.

We understand how it is when your world view is shattered.

You'll adjust. Afterall you'll just have to live with it. It won't be so bad.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Bdunn1 - I can't believe you go to the Dailykos for "the truth." And the fact a reporter repeats something in an article does not make it the truth. Sorry, but his words are his words. Everything you posted was SPIN. It is what the Obama camp is saying in their attempts to back-peddle away. If you make something so expensive it is prohibitive, then you aren't going to be able to do it. Yet during debates he said he was for it all, including clean coal technology. He just forgot the asterisk and/or footnote at the end of his statement: (but to make it "clean" enough for me, it will cost so much they won't be able to afford it).

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

In a twisted sort of way I almost want McCain to win this election because four more years worth of failed Bush/McCain policies would for all intents and purposes be the end of the Republican party as we know it today. They would become the 4th party gadflies that they deserve to be.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
.


The only question is, would this country survive it?


You people out there who live in economic downtrodden states like Ohio, Pa and Virgina etc, if you are stupid enough to vote for McCain you will deserve every single bit of economic hardship that a McCain presidency will give you.
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
.

Posted by: DrainYou | November 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Bdunn1 - Sorry, but his words are his words. Everything you sent me to is SPIN. It is what the Obama camp is saying in their attempts to back-peddle away. If you make something so expensive it is prohibitive, then you aren't going to be able to do it. Yet during debates he said he was for it all, including clean coal technology. He just forgot the asterisk and/or footnote at the end of his statement: (but to make it "clean" enough for me, it will cost so much they won't be able to afford it).

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Whoops, sorry, correct link on failed coal smear is here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/2/173220/826

I'm sure Drudge will fix his latest lie ASAP.

Posted by: bdunn1 | November 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Anyone remember when Pittsburgh was an industrial slag heap? I do.

Thank the coal industry. Nobody wants it in in their backyard except those fools in West Virginia. GOP sure has done alot for them hasn't it?

One more day.......:-)

Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Here's the coal truth and nothing but the truth, a concept too often foreign to wingnuttery:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/2/105813/167/55/649810

As far as Palin's ridiculous question why the video is hidden, it never was. Another failed smear.

Posted by: bdunn1 | November 2, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

LET'S TALK COAL- OBAMA'S AGAINST IT AND McCAIN'S FOR IT- (anything else?)

Sunday, November 02, 2008
Gateway Pundit
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO-- Obama Promises San Francisco Audience He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry!!

OBAMA TOLD A SAN FRANCISCO AUDIENCE THAT HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY!!!

ATTN: Coal states Virginia , OHIO, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and Indiana, guess what Obama told San Francisco about you?

OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY:

from his talk to the San Francisco Chronicle in January 2008:


"Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them."


This goes hand-in-hand with what he's said about nuclear energy.
His preconditions make it impossible to expand nuclear energy at this time.
From The Wall Street Journal:


On nuclear power, Sen. Obama says he's open to expanding nuclear energy, which now provides 20% of the nation's electricity, as part of an effort to increase power sources that emit little or no carbon dioxide. But he also has said there is no future for expanded nuclear energy until the U.S. comes up with a safe, long-term solution for disposing of nuclear waste. He opposes the Bush administration's plan for storing waste at Yucca Mountain in Nevada.

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, Juliet Eilperin is in full on "damage control for The One" mode with this piece, even digging so low as to contact someone with CAP for a quote.

What Juliet Eilperin doesn't tell you is that the head of CAP's fund heads BHO's transition team, and BHO has several other links to that group.

And, Eilperin doesn't point out that exports can be increased from their current level; they aren't locked in at 2%.

And, she doesn't point out how long it would take for BHO's wonderful clean energy plans to take effect. In the meantime, Pennsylvanians, Ohioans, West Virginians, and others will see their economies slide even lower.

There are problems with this following report, but listen to the audio or read the transcript and decide whether Obama is looking out for your interests or not:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/11/shocking-new-audio-obama-promises-to.html

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | November 2, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama's words are what they are: damaging.

Damage control will not save him from the flak he's going to take from coal states, some of which happen to be battleground states. Tsk tsk.

Posted by: AuntiZeituni | November 2, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Drain you - Oh, yea, and Bob Bennett has said he kept McCain in the investigation only because the Dems pressured him to do so in order to avoid the scandal being solely Democratic. You see, the other 4 were Dems.

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Drain You - Did the liberal press from where you got your information and/or the Obama campaign tell you the whole story? McCain was exonerate by the Senate Ethics Committee, but rebuked for bad judgment. Special prosecutor Bob Bennett said, "I investigated John McCain for a year and a half ... and if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is an honest man."

McCain has also said he was sorry about that episode in his career, and I suspect that is what drove him to push over the years for campaign finance reform.

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Eilperin does her best in this piece to put her hero, Barack, in the best possible light. But it is a difficult task. He plainly said he wants to put the coal industry out of business.

Posted by: dakotadoug83 | November 2, 2008 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Drain you - I have done my own research and I can find more clips and articles that pre-date this election cycle that show how the Dems screwed up the mortgage industry but you probably don't want to know about that because all you rely on is what the Obama campaign has given you. Have you done any research on your own?

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

drain you - Here is where you are wrong about the deregulation; it was actually regulation that caused the mess. The regulation started by the worst-president-ever Jimmy Carter (I know, I lived through him and his double-digit mortgages - can you say 14%?), and pushed harder by Bill Clinton; regulation that said out of fairness, banks had to make loans to certain sectors of the country who really would not qualify for mortgages normally. To do that they had to come up with creative mortgages and financing, knowing they were going to unload those on Fannie, etc. Eventually when these people stopped paying, housing prices went down, and well, we see what happened. The Repubs tried to do something. Haven't you found the YouTube hearing where Barney Frank and Maxine Waters are going off on the people talking about the problems that could be? How they were calling it a witchhunt and how great Franklin Raines was - the same Raines who, the next year or that same year, had to resign and caused Fannie to pay a fine over his fudging earnings numbers to up his bonus? (And there was Jamie Gorelock and Johnson - two more Demo darlings - who ran Fannie, too.)

Did you hear Liddy Dole explain how she could not get a bill out of committee because Dems voted against it along party lines? Now we know why - follow the money trail. When there was a vote on something, Obama voted "present." Couldn't vote against Dole's bill because he was planning to run for Pres and it would look bad; couldn't vote for it because of his friends at Fannie (remember, second-highest recipient of contributions in about only two years). (Oh, and the fact McCain received, I believe, $17,000 makes no difference because it obviously had no effect on his decision to vote FOR regulation.) There are articles about 17 times - count them - that the Bush administration tried to warn Congress and do something. Bush couldn't act alone; Congress passes the bills but the Dems in Congress did nothing. The first time Obama said anything was two months AFTER he announced his run for president and even then, what he did was a token gesture: write a letter to Paulson expressing his concerns and asking for an inquiry. He had no time to do anything; he was running for president.

If you want to have a debate on these issues, I will be more than happy to do so anytime because in this election, I have done so much research that raised so many questions. If only the press had done their job and done what I did, more people would not be under the Obama spell.

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain knows all about bailing out rich bankers and screwing over middle class and poor people, he's been doing it for years.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAzDEbVFcg8
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*McCain - Founding Member of the Keating 5


McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips.


Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.)


McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal."


McCain was not convicted of any crimes, though the Senate concluded that he exercised "poor judgment." (Furthermore, he got off on some charges by a technicality -- that he was still in the House when he took those vacation trips, and so the Senate couldn't prosecute him. The House concluded that THEY couldn't prosecute him because he had moved to the Senate.)


Here's some mavericky straight talk, my friends:
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http://www.realchange.org/mccain.htm
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Posted by: DrainYou | November 2, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Drain you - I have done my own research and I can find more clips and articles that pre-date this election cycle that show how the Dems screwed up the mortgage industry but you probably don't want to know about that because all you rely on is what the Obama campaign has given you. Have you done any research on your own?

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

I understand that if you crush coal, boil it, then snort it, it will distort your ego more then cocaine.

Posted by: dukas | November 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Drain You and bozobuck - Please answer some questions for me. Do you realize that businesses create jobs? That a successful business (i.e., profits) means the value of the stock increases, which in turn affects your retirement or profit if you sell the stock (yes, middle America invests in the market)? That a successful business creates jobs? Yes, there may be problems (e.g., bonuses should not be paid unless there is profit or golden parachutes only paid if CEO forced out due to merger but not malfeasance); however, it is not good for the economy to tax, tax, tax. I heard a speech today that JFK gave about cutting taxes across the board and how cutting taxes will help business. This was 40 years ago, and from the darling of the Democratic party! JFK understood it; why can't you?

If we are going to regulate profits of business, then we need to also regulate profits of movie stars, athletes, models, musicians, clothing designers. I think it's obscene that a person makes $20 million for a movie that causes ME to pay almost $10 for a movie and almost $5 for a soda. Do you take your kids to any athletic events? You probably couldn't have afforded the World Series. Do you get as disgusted when you see how much these people make and the fact they are actually only consumers with their money: $500 jeans, $500 pair of shoes, jetting all over the world for shopping and vacation. Yes, they contribute to the economy but a very limited sector. More than likely sweat shops that make their designer clothes. Wake up to Obaman's hypocrisy.

Obama has done nothing but use certain terms (fairness, patriotic, selfish)over and over to guilt people into feeling bad about wanting to keep their money so HE can get. He is not uniting; he is creating rifts by this type of rhetoric. Yet, as some posters have noted, no one has bothered to really delve into Obama and what he stands for. Even when the 2001 audio surfaced that showed he plans to use the legislature and judiciary to advance his social agenda (e.g., he wants judges not who interpret the law, but inject their personal feelings and empathy into decisions), people are still under the spell. I am beginning to understand how Hitler was able to sway people his way; how the Bolsheviks pulled off a revolution. You create an "us versus them" mentality, and just keep repeating the mantra so people stop using all reason and logic.

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

you Obama-bots need to learn quick, COAL is how you get electricity, not wind or solar. Wind cant power a subway let alone a Northeast city block

Posted by: thejibreelamonsters | November 2, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Audio Unearthed OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

Posted by: thejaner | November 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

"Our economy is structurally sound for the long term"
*George W Bush - Feb 11, 2008


"The American people can remain confident in the soundness and the resilience of our financial system"
*Henry Paulson - Sept 15, 2008


"The economy is fundamentally sound"
*Herbert Hoover - October, 1931


"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"
*John McCain - Sept 15, 2008
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg
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McCain does not have the ability to fix this economic crisis. After declaring the fundamentals of the economy strong, he created a political circus in Washington by mucking up bailout negotiations; a deplorable campaign stunt, considering he and his political cronies helped cause the current meltdown.


It was McCain and his economic adviser Phil Gramm who pushed for the deregulation that helped lead to the banking crisis, and it was McCain's crony Rick Davis who had deep lobbyist ties to Freddie Mac. Don't let others be fooled by McCain's economic grandstanding because the reality is his policies and principles will only exacerbate our financial hardships.


McCain is being deceitful with his sudden populist message and support for regulation; his economic policies still favor our nation's wealthy elite.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4egXbhSOhk
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Posted by: DrainYou | November 2, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

bozobuck - So what (and I can't believe there is NO coal production in PA anymore), and it could affect any attempt to build a coal-fired plant in that region for jobs. I am from PA now so I know a little about that region. It also would affect other states where there is mining. And, the statement represents the "bait & switch" president you are going to get with Obama. He promises what he needs to the audience he is appearing before, knowing very well what he intends to do.

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

You betway dwellers think your electricity comes from, and it damm sure an't wind! Its coal sucker, "mine baby mine" if this gets out, kiss PA and VA good bye!

Palin will crush you

Posted by: thejibreelamonsters | November 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Drain You - you think McCain is out of touch because of income? How about Obama? The McCains give hundreds of thousands to charity; look at the returns and articles. Obama, however, gives barely anything. He wants to spread MY wealth around. It's a philosophy that is OK for him as long as it is MY money, not his. Why I am selfish for wanting to keep my income and he kept almost all of his after taxes? When he made $1.7 million he only gave away $73,000. Even if you netted only $500,000, you couldn't have given away more than that? When he made $250,000 to $300,000, the most he gave was $2,500. He lives in a very nice suburb, stays at 5-star hotels, and runs up a $400 tab for lunch. Who is out of touch?

Posted by: rld2 | November 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

What a joke and such a perfect example of how out of touch Mccain is. They haven't produced coal in Scranton in at least 60 years. i grew up in Scranton. Coal production left that town nothing but a scared landscape and blacklung victims like my great-grandfather. Believe me. Nobody in that city would want deep shaft coal mining back. It makes a better tourist attraction.

Posted by: bozobuck | November 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

In the tank for Obama
The media have done too little to explore this mystery candidate

Sunday, November 02, 2008
By Jack Kelly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Less is known about Barack Obama than about any major party candidate for president in modern history. His public resume is thin -- eight years in the Illinois Senate, four in the U.S. Senate, with two of them spent running for president.

The radical group ACORN has been committing voter registration fraud on a massive scale. Mr. Obama taught classes for ACORN organizers, and represented the group in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois. The most significant managerial responsibility Barack Obama has ever had was as chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a project conceived of by unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers.

These associations have been less explored by the mainstream news media than has Joe the Plumber's divorce and a tax lien against him.

Mr. Nicholas' colleague at the Los Angeles Times, Peter Wallsten, wrote a story in April about a testimonial dinner Mr. Obama had attended in 2003 for Rashid Khalidi when Prof. Khalidi left the University of Chicago for Columbia University. Mr. Khalidi and his wife, Mona, had worked for WAFA, the propaganda arm of the Palestine Liberation Organization. He later co-founded the rabidly anti-Israel Arab American Action Network. Among the contributors to a book of testimonials presented to Mr. Khalidi at that dinner were Sen. Obama and Mr. Ayers.

Mr. Wallsten's account of the event was based on a videotape of it supplied by an anonymous source. That videotape could answer some relevant questions. What exactly was said at the dinner? How did Mr. Obama respond? Were Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn there? But the L.A. Times -- which thought it newsworthy to put a video clip of Sarah Palin competing in the swimsuit competition in the Miss Alaska contest in 1984 on its Web site -- has refused to make the tape public.

The problem hasn't been the tough reporting on Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin, Mr. Malone wrote for the ABC News Web site Oct. 24. It's been the virtual absence of such reporting on the Democrats:

"Are Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko that hard to interview?" Mr. Malone asked. "All those phony voter registrations that hard to scrutinize? And why are Sen. Biden's endless gaffes almost always covered up?

"If the current polls are correct, we are about to elect as president of the United States a man who is essentially a cipher, who has left almost no paper trail, seems to have few friends (at least who will talk) and has entire years missing out of his biography," Mr. Malone said.

Jack Kelly is a columnist for the Post-Gazette ( Hey Ruffian-is this the newspaper you read?)

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Could you be any more in the tank? You link to a transcript, describing it as "a transcript from Newsbusters.org, a project of the conservative Media Research Center.", implying that it is biased information.

How about a link to the actual video showcasing The One's actual words? Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

Posted by: inmypajamas | November 2, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH MIDDLE-CLASS AMERICA'S ECONOMIC TROUBLES!
McCain in April 08 declared that there had been "great progress economically" during the Bush years. On more than one occasion, he diagnosed Americans' concerns over the dismal U.S. economy as "psychological." (Phil Gramm, McCain's close friend and economic adviser supposedly excommunicated over his "whiners" remarks, is back with the McCain campaign full time again.) McCain, a man who owns eight homes nationwide, in March lectured Americans facing foreclosure that they ought to be "doing what is necessary -- working a second job, skipping a vacation, and managing their budgets -- to make their payments on time." And when all else fails, McCain told the people of the economically devastated regions in Martin County, Kentucky and Youngstown, Ohio, there's always eBay. McCain doesn't understand our tanking economy because it doesn't affect him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek3jAkx9m10

The $100 Million Man
Courtesy of his wife Cindy's beer distribution fortune (one her late father apparently chose not to share with her half-sister Kathleen), the McCains are worth well over $100 million. (In the two-page tax summary she eventually released to the public, Cindy McCain reported another $6 million in 2006.) As Salon reported back in 2000, the second Mrs. McCain's millions were essential in launching her husband's political career. Unsurprisingly, the Weekly Standard's Matthew Continetti, who four years ago called Theresa Heinz-Kerry a "sugar mommy," has been silent on the topic of Cindy McCain.

The Joys of (Eight) Home Ownership
While fellow adulterer John Edwards was pilloried for his mansion, John McCain's eight homes around the country have received little notice or criticism. His properties include a 10 acre lake-side Sedona estate, euphemistically called a "cabin" by the McCain campaign, and a home featured in Architectural Digest. The one featuring "remote control window coverings" was recently put up for sale. Still, their formidable resources did not prevent the McCains from failing to pay taxes on a tony La Jolla, California condo used by Cindy's aged aunt.

The Anheuser-Busch Windfall
While John McCain played a critical role in facilitating DHL's takeover of Airborne (and with it, the looming loss of 8,000 jobs in Wilmington, Ohio), Cindy McCain is set to earn a staggering multi-million dollar pay-day from the acquisition of Anheuser-Busch by the Belgian beverage giant, In Bev. As the Wall Street Journal reported in July, Mrs. McCain runs the third largest Anheuser-Busch distributorship in the nation, and owns between $2.5 and $5 million in the company's stock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxT0s_I5WtA
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Posted by: DrainYou | November 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Our very own online concert for Obama/Biden '08

Leesha Harvey- Coal Train (Original)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VItmtAuWz0w


John Mellencamp - Small Town
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eDkAG3R0h8

Bruce Springsteen - Radio Nowhere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmLt6kcZ72Q

Posted by: cooday | November 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

How long are you going to cover for this guy? These are his words - period. Post the information let us decide. If anyone wants the story go here.

http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/02/obama-ill-cause-energy-prices-to-skyrocket/

Posted by: sdee | November 2, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

The Point of this blog isn't the messenger but the Message!

Sunday, November 02, 2008
Gateway Pundit
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO-- Obama Promises San Francisco Audience He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry!!

OBAMA TOLD A SAN FRANCISCO AUDIENCE THAT HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY!!!

ATTN: Coal states Virginia , OHIO, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and Indiana, guess what Obama told San Francisco about you?

OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY:

from his talk to the San Francisco Chronicle in January 2008:


"Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them."


This goes hand-in-hand with what he's said about nuclear energy.
His preconditions make it impossible to expand nuclear energy at this time.
From The Wall Street Journal:


On nuclear power, Sen. Obama says he's open to expanding nuclear energy, which now provides 20% of the nation's electricity, as part of an effort to increase power sources that emit little or no carbon dioxide. But he also has said there is no future for expanded nuclear energy until the U.S. comes up with a safe, long-term solution for disposing of nuclear waste. He opposes the Bush administration's plan for storing waste at Yucca Mountain in Nevada.

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama to SF Chronicle 1/08

"So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster."

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

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