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McCain Warmly Welcomed at Granite State Town Hall


Guests watch a town hall meeting with John McCain in Peterborough, N.H., Nov. 2, 2008. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)

By Juliet Eilperin
PETERBOROUGH, N.H. -- As his campaign nears its end, John McCain convened a town hall meeting tonight in New Hampshire, the state that has sustained his presidential aspirations during the darkest times.

McCain's first-place finish in New Hampshire in 2000 made him a serious contender against George W. Bush, though it failed to carry him through the rest of the primaries. Nearly eleven months ago, winning here put him on the path to securing his party's nomination. While only a couple of dozen people showed up eight years ago when he held one of his first town halls here, tonight a crowd of more than 2,000 supporters stood out in the cold to greet him, while another 400 waited inside to see him speak.

Cindy McCain alluded to her husband's winning record in New Hampshire in her opening remarks, thanking the audience "most of all, for your vote of confidence during primaries." Recalling how she stood in Peterborough's town hall in 2000 just before the presidential primary, she said, "I felt I had come home."

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) indulged in his own reminiscence when he took the microphone, telling the group he was wearing "the lucky red sweater" he wore when he endorsed McCain for president back in December in New Hampshire. "I'm relying on this sweater and the Republicans, and independents, and Democrats in New Hampshire, to take John with your four electoral votes to the White House on Tuesday," he said.

And when McCain began his speech tonight, he not only thanked several state officials but made a point of saying he would do his best to ensure New Hampshire retained "its first in the nation status" in presidential primaries. "I love my home state of Arizona," he said. "But I really do mean [it when I say there's] a special feeling I have for this state and the wonderful people, who take their responsibilities so seriously."

Returning to the three themes his campaign unveiled several months ago, McCain asked the audience, "What is this election about? It's about reform, prosperity and peace. Reform, prosperity and peace."

None of the questions the GOP presidential nominee faced were hostile. In fact, one member of the audience prefaced his remarks by saying, "I may be jumping a little ahead, Mr. President, I have a question," which prompted a standing ovation. Another, a woman, thanked McCain for his service, saying, "Because of your service, we are a free country, and that's phenomenal." But some of the questions were tougher than others, and they prompted McCain to return to many of the issues he has relegated to the back burner during the general election.

When a young man asked McCain whether he would oppose the construction of any coal plant that could not store the carbon it emits, McCain replied that he had to "tell the truth" because that's what he does during town halls: "You know, I'd love to tell you that I would, but I can't, because we're going to have to build new power plants."

Another audience member inquired what McCain would do to promote green building practices, which prompted McCain to mention his plan to revamp federal buildings so they're more energy efficient -- a policy he unveiled more than four months ago, but which he rarely mentions on the campaign trail. "We need to provide you with those sort of tax credits and incentives for green technologies," he told her.

McCain even revisited the question that nearly torpedoed his primary bid: immigration. When one voter asked him what he would do to curb illegal immigration, he cautioned that there were not "twelve million handcuffs" to slap on everyone who's already here in violation of federal law. "I will make my highest priority getting immigration reform done, and that begins with securing our borders," he said. "But I've also got to tell you, these are God's children."

Some of his other comments were more crowd pleasing, such as when he emphasized the need to cut government spending and keep taxes low. When asked how the federal government would cope with decreased revenues in light of the economic crunch, McCain responded, "We're going to have to scrub every agency of government and we're going to have to do away with ones that aren't serving the American people... It's going to require very tough decisions."

Reprising the line he's used so many times in the state, he informed attendees that he was hoping a broad coalition would help him serve his country in one last role. "I've come to the people of New Hampshire, Republicans, independents, Democrats, libertarians, vegetarians, to ask again, to let me go on one more mission," he told them.

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we are years away from having nuclear-power electricity,and obamas plans will make it even harder to accomplish that goal.all the coal producing states will have to lay-off and close their doors,because they can not afford his taxes,this further sends the message that he has no experience and could never handle the the "hot seat"and it shows how green he is as a business manager.this guy is not a friend to the coal producing states,and its time they understood that.he will not benifit the coal industry at all,there will be a heavy lose of jobs,if the states that are coal producers elect him. remember he said it first!he is not going to be your friend.

Posted by: Lwebb121 | November 3, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

And here is another little known fact! sad part is its true.barack obama and his wife michelle do not like our national anthem! and look for them to want to do away with it. myself and millions of other veterans,have stood proud and saluted during its play,if they want to change that,then its one more freedom we lose.our enemies have said they will take us down from the inside! apparently they are well on their way to do that.

Posted by: Lwebb121 | November 3, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

"How can anyone who is not a millionaire cheer John McCain, who has said he wants to extend the tax breaks for the wealthiest instead of returning the tax for them to what it was during the Clinton administration, as Obama proposes?"
BettyW1

Betty, I know ten thousand or more coal miners in West Virginia this morning who are waking up to read the Spectator and none are millionaires, yet all are questioning any support they may have had for Obama.
Bill Clinton said in 1988 that removing the cap on social secutity taxes was "regressive...no one wants to." THAT'S Exactly what Obama wants to do- it will hurt small business. Obama cleverly claims that 98% of small businesses make under 250k and therefore won't be hurt. He conveniently leaves out the fact that ALL SMALL businesses are included in his figure- EBAY sellers who work at home by themselves, for example. 50% of all small business INCOME will suffer additional heavy taxes due to Obama's unprecidented move.
His "most aggressive cap and trade policy"- his words- will put tens of thousands of coal workers out of work across the country- New Mexico, Colorado, W. Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Alabama, Kentucky, and Virginis. WHO WILL EMPLOY THESE PEOPLE? THE SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ARE BEING MORE HEAVILY TAXED?

The NY Times last week covered the horrible jobs picture in Rhode Island- 8.8% unemployment as the state with the highest cumulative business taxes-

Wake up Betty, don't cut off your nose to spite your face, by voting for Obama in order to "stick it" to Exxon/Mobile and in turn ruining the entire job creating small and medium sized business sector in our great country.

Millionaires, like Penny Pritzker and Barbara Streisand can AFFORD to support Obama Betty- we can't.

Posted by: thecannula | November 3, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

seriously folks,i think what will happen here is this.if obama get elected,and is aginst using coal for our power plants,he will tax them to the point where they have to shut-down and lay off people.AND IF THEY HAVE TO SHUT -DOWN GUESS WHAT?WE WILL HAVE NO ELECTRICITY!!!!!!!!!!without our power plants our way of life is useless.

Posted by: Lwebb121 | November 3, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Being a Canadian, I guess I just don't get it with all respect. Why would you vote for same after 8 years and a once powerful and gracious Country falling, and fast.
Nothing but sorrow for all of you. Your brave young men and women don't have a job, a home, nor proper medical aid to hope for if and when they come home. All you people are having a bugger of a time. Just explain with respect for my ignorance. You are our nieghbours and best friends.
And before you judge me, I believe in being able to protect yourself with a fire arm. A cash of semi automatics is a different story. But the issue is, your in a mess. May your God Bless you all.


Posted by: justada56 | November 3, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

re: "Hillary supports may be disappointed, but they have enough respect for their candidate to not vote for everything that she is against. There is more at stake in this election then whether or not a woman is President."

Just because Obama makes a good speech with a ton of promises doesn't mean a damn thing. He has no record, and the record he does have is disturbing.

How can there more at stake in this election than making sure that women in America are respected?
There is no more qualified person in America than Hillary Clinton.
So why isn't she on the DNC ticket?

John McCain chose a woman to share the ticket with him.
Barack Obama didn't.

WHY NOT???????????

With the treatment the Obama campaign has given both Hillary Clinton ("polarizing and unelectable") to GOVERNOR Sarah Palin ("the beauty queen from Alaska") women who care about sexism will NEVER fall for Obama's sexist bulloney.

And the women who do fall for Barack Obama's sexist bulloney have ZERO respect for Senator Hillary Clinton.

p.s.
I'm from New Hampshire and all us PUMAs have promised to tell the pollsters who call us daily that we are supporting Obama.

So, on Tuesday night, NH results might be just as shocking in the general election as they were in the primary.

Posted by: freespeak | November 3, 2008 6:27 AM | Report abuse


Let's cut to the chase. Barack Obama is a voice of reason and unity.

Please vote for the calm voice who will reach across the aisle and across America to bring out the best in all of us and reject the hysteria and fear mongering that has infected this Republican campaign.

Dozens of top Republican thinkers have rejected the hostile wailings of these irresponsible and undereducated demagogues and you should too!

Posted by: robertchoward | November 3, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Regarding immigration, it's too bad McCain didn't bring up Obama's aunt, because BHO just told CSB that he wants his own poor aunt to be deported.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t want millions of other illegal aliens to be deported.

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008288.html

Want a wonderful person Obama is.

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | November 3, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA AND STAFF CAUGHT SAYING KILL WHITES AND JEWS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBD7v9yO9PI

Posted by: ruvoting | November 2, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

It has been reported widely that during the time John McCain was a POW, Red Chinese psychiatrist worked on Pavlovian test on U.S. prisoners to implant brain controlling and altering behavior. As a prisoner for 5 years, it can safely be seen that John McCain has been a plant for the Chinese government. How else can you explain his policy in favor of opening trade further with China and exporting more jobs there? How else can you explain the selection of Sarah Palin which was designed to destroy the American government when the McCain is disabled by his Chinese operatives?

This has been the most underreported story in the campaign. A McCain victory is a victory for Red China.

Posted by: alanmarv528 | November 2, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

The West Virginia Record
11-2-08

The senior vice president of the West Virginia Coal Association called Obama's comments "unbelievable."

"His comments are unfortunate," Chris Hamilton said Sunday, "and really reflect a very uninformed voice and perspective to coal specifically and energy generally."

Hamilton noted other times Obama and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden have made seemingly anti-coal statements.

"In Ohio recently, when Joe Biden said 'not here' about building coal-fired power plants -- this is exactly what will happen," Hamilton said. "Financing won't be directed here. It will all go aboard for plants elsewhere in the world. The United Sates is importing more coal today from Indonesia, South Africa and Colombia than we ever have.

"If we're going to create a situation where coal-fired power plants are at that much of a disadvantage, there will be new ones built. But as Biden said, just not here."

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's state director said Obama's statements are troubling, especially for West Virginians.

"I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal," Ben Beakes(Chief of Staff, WV Secretary of State's Office)said Sunday. "Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters - that's what we have to take as gospel.

"They're definitely not friends of coal."

Beakes noted other examples of Obama and Biden making seemingly anti-coal statements, such as in February when Obama said he'd like to tax "dirty energy" such as coal and natural gas.

"And their cohorts in Congress make similar statements," Beakes said. "(Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said this summer that 'coal makes us sick.'

"This is an attitude and view that, to me, shows their hatred of coal. And therefore, their view would cost West Virginians thousands upon thousands of jobs."

Beakes touted McCain's view toward coal.

"John McCain has embraced coal," Beakes said. "He doesn't agree with everything in the coal industry, but his view of coal is positive. He will make it part of his energy policy. He's met with leaders in the coal industry and let them know that. He's sought advice from coal industry leaders.

"McCain understands that coal supports about 49 percent of our electricity in this country. He'll continue to make coal important. He wants to reduce our foreign dependency on oil."

Obama's Coal Policy-
Bad for jobs
Bad for Energy Independence
Bad for Affordable Electricity
(just like his Illinois Corn Ethanol Policy is Bad for food prices AND does Nothing for energy independence)

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

CharractorCounts- Racism no longer Works Huh?

Funny, it seems to be yours and Dr.Who2's entire Motivation!

IMO-If Barry was white, you'd be APOLITICAL!

Posted by: SAINT---The | November 2, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Even the polling companies are amazed at how incredibly close the polls are ... too close to predict. The biggest sign is the "frantic and desperate" language used by the Obamanites as they watch their numbers disappear and the latest Army Times poll of active, reserve, National Guard, and military families of all services who are voting 4:1 in favor of John McCain. Those numbers are in the millions, and will match or exceed the phony ACORN voters easily.

==OIF Vets For McCain==

Posted by: palmettonajjar | November 2, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama tells his San Francisco pals that he will bankrupt coal...did someone tell PA, OH and WV about this? Listen to audio at my blog!

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: dcpsychic | November 2, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Pennsylvania and Virginia are the two major coal producing states which do not have early voting...wonder how Obama's boasting, that his, the most aggressive cap and trade policy will bankrupt coal plants, will go over on Tuesday, given that it's bad for jobs, bad for energy independence, bad for affordable electricity, and bad for Virginia's and Pennsylvania's families?

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words. No one is talking about Hillary voters now. You will see it on Nov 5th the effect of Hillary Voters.

Posted by: rosetee

Consider your words marked and forgotten. Hillary supports may be disappointed, but they have enough respect for their candidate to not vote for everything that she is against. There is more at stake in this election then whether or not a woman is President. Their time will come, this time around the racial ceiling is going to be broken.

Posted by: DrWho2 | November 2, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Note to the tax plan fear-mongers bashing Senator Obama: he doesn't make the tax law, he only signs off on it. Entirely up to Congress. rsampson02

OH, SO OBAMA'S GONNA VETO THE ACT PELOSI, REID, AND FRANK WANT THAT WILL RAISE TAXES ON EVERYONE OVER----- (FILL IN THE BLANK ?75K, 88K?...)? ****not a chance***

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama was raised up in Hawaii & Indonsia.
He is way of looking at the way look at things.. are different than the usual folk.
So don't suprise...
I hope for the people via sixties are successful & celebrate this it is victory for only those reasons.
Don't be suprised..can really appreciate the ethicincity or is gleamming for the right reasons. He is a liberal with question..

liberty is Safe & Stable

The old one in heart is Obama..Dry..
The young one at heart is Ameri-Cain.
Transparent & fun.

Posted by: suttons77hotmailcom | November 2, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Tohmas- Then you're more aware of Bill Clinton's statement than is Bill Clinton, because he stated, specifically related to the social security tax cap, that "Noone" wants to remove the cap because that would be "REGRESSIVE"!

You're just like you're candidate- always answering a somewhat related yet different question than the one being asked- like the Infant Protection Act- he says- "I'm not for infanticide"- WE KNOW- noone's saying he wants to go around actively killing babies who have already survived one attempt....just that he voted against the law Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, and NARAL supported, to PROTECT them...

Clinton said it, look it up if you want to-

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know where I can get the new video Nailin Palin? I hear that its very edgy.

Posted by: DrWho2 | November 2, 2008 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words. No one is talking about Hillary voters now. You will see it on Nov 5th the effect of Hillary Voters.

Posted by: rosetee | November 2, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

To all the McCain/Palin supporters: Barack Obama will be the first truly American President, half white and half black. It’s a new day in America, racism no longer works in our nations politics.

Posted by: CharacterCounts1 | November 2, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

It's all over for John McCain and that woman from Alaska, who he has been palling around with. Get over it John. You can't cheat your way into the Oval Office. You have shown us who you really are and we reject who you are and what you stand for. Send Palin home and let people in Alaska decide what to do about her.

Posted by: CharacterCounts1 | November 2, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey, thecannula, you don't even know what a regressive tax IS. "A regressive tax is a tax imposed in such a manner that the tax rate decreases as the amount subject to taxation increases. In simple terms, it imposes a greater burden (relative to resources) on the poor than on the rich" [wikipedia]. Eliminating a social security tax cap (currently at $97,500, and scheduled to go to $102,000 next year), is obviously NOT taxing the poor more, so it is NOT a regressive tax.
you say, "the more a small business owner profits, the more she's taxed". That sounds like a Progressive tax to me. Adam Smith [an original capitalist] in "The Wealth of Nations" writes "It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion"

Posted by: Tohmas | November 2, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Note to the tax plan fear-mongers bashing Senator Obama: he doesn't make the tax law, he only signs off on it. Entirely up to Congress. He has never advocated redistributing wealth as the rich republicans have fabricated! He simply advocates raising the highest marginal tax bracket 3% to it's pre-2002 level. Hardly a redistribution of wealth.
To the McNasty supporters who are busy harping about the impending single-party majority- get over it. We actually NEED a democratic House, Senate & White House to promptly restore some of the nutty changes made by the Bush/Gingrich team between 2000 and 2006, when they ruled all three branches of the government. Funny, never heard any republicans complaining then about the risks of single party rule, even though they shamelessly abused it! Sorry Republicans, yet another non-issue..

Posted by: rsampson02 | November 2, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Humm. Maybe Hugo Chavez wants Obama to win, but Dick Cheney & George W want John McNasty. I put more faith in Chavez.
What is it with right-wing Republican voters- don't they ever get it? The Republicans are the evil-doers. Beholden to big business, religous extremists, devious campaign consultants, the defense industry and the ultra wealthy. Why would anybody with a net worth of less than $5Million ever vote for a Republican? Crazy.

Posted by: rsampson02 | November 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey canoli: You can have West Virginia.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

The West Virginia Record
11-2-08

The senior vice president of the West Virginia Coal Association called Obama's comments "unbelievable."

"His comments are unfortunate," Chris Hamilton said Sunday, "and really reflect a very uninformed voice and perspective to coal specifically and energy generally."

Hamilton noted other times Obama and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden have made seemingly anti-coal statements.

"In Ohio recently, when Joe Biden said 'not here' about building coal-fired power plants -- this is exactly what will happen," Hamilton said. "Financing won't be directed here. It will all go aboard for plants elsewhere in the world. The United Sates is importing more coal today from Indonesia, South Africa and Colombia than we ever have.

"If we're going to create a situation where coal-fired power plants are at that much of a disadvantage, there will be new ones built. But as Biden said, just not here."

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's state director said Obama's statements are troubling, especially for West Virginians.

"I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal," Ben Beakes(Chief of Staff, WV Secretary of State's Office)said Sunday. "Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters - that's what we have to take as gospel.

"They're definitely not friends of coal."

Beakes noted other examples of Obama and Biden making seemingly anti-coal statements, such as in February when Obama said he'd like to tax "dirty energy" such as coal and natural gas.

"And their cohorts in Congress make similar statements," Beakes said. "(Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said this summer that 'coal makes us sick.'

"This is an attitude and view that, to me, shows their hatred of coal. And therefore, their view would cost West Virginians thousands upon thousands of jobs."

Beakes touted McCain's view toward coal.

"John McCain has embraced coal," Beakes said. "He doesn't agree with everything in the coal industry, but his view of coal is positive. He will make it part of his energy policy. He's met with leaders in the coal industry and let them know that. He's sought advice from coal industry leaders.

"McCain understands that coal supports about 49 percent of our electricity in this country. He'll continue to make coal important. He wants to reduce our foreign dependency on oil."

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Its time for a change, and McCain doesn't offer it.

Posted by: paulnolan97 | November 2, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

OF COURSE Al-Qaeda wants McCain

Nothing would be better for them to have ANOTHER "shoot first, ask questions later", "BOMB,BOMB,BOMB Everything" cowboy as US President to help ameliorate their terrorist recruiting.

If Obama is elected, Al Qaeda will be instantly castrated!

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | November 2, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain supporters talk about "Obama doesn't 'Add Up'"...

What doesn't "ADD UP" is that someone would vote for the same political party that has DEMONSTRATED that they are IRRESPONSIBLE LEADERS.

Our economy is in the hole, respect for the US dollar has fallen, our military is transparent to our enemies, our beloved Constitution has been assaulted, and now the same party is picking on little old ladies and whining about their tax bill.

Save OUR Country and Constitution from the PROVEN FAILURE of the Republican Party

VOTE Obama Nov 4

Posted by: thenotoriousflavio | November 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

http://cdn.sfgate.com/blogs/sounds/sfgate/chroncast/2008/01/17/20080117-obama-interview.mp3

The Obama Audio Where He Lays Out His Plan TO Destroy The Coal Industry

Posted by: gdodd414 | November 2, 2008 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the average American really is for Obama. The real-life average American, the nation's most statistically average man or woman discovered after a long non-partisan search, has come out for Obama, according to the search's website: http://www.theaverageamerican.com

Posted by: worldview1 | November 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

"I will make my highest priority getting immigration reform done, and that begins with securing our borders," he said. "But I've also got to tell you, these are God's children."

Gee John those rabid Right Wing Conservatives aren't going to be too happy when they hear that statement.

Posted by: AverageJane | November 2, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

PA GOP runs Rev Wright ad--see it in my blog!

http://mccain08-hillary2012.blogspot.com/

Posted by: dcpsychic | November 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

When the liberals wake up on Wed. morning some more of them will have to be treated for anxiety.

Posted by: Slingo | November 2, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Heehee. I see all the wingnuts got their latest talking points from MacLame's campaign headquarters.

Talking about coal in Pennsylvania?

The U.S produced 1,145.6 million short tons of coal in 2007.

Know how much Pa. produced?

65 million short tons - about what it produced in 2001.

Pennsylvania has been producing less and less of the total coal produced in the U.S.

Remember when Pittsburgh was an industrial slag heap? Blame bid goal.

Nobody wants coal mines in their backyard except the doodaas in West Virginia.

Know who produces the most coal by far?
Wyoming at 453 million short tons. That's one reason nobody lives there. Home of Dick Cheney.

Besides, its already red.

:-)


Posted by: toritto | November 2, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Attention Racist Republicans: Please make sure that your suicide pills are handy on Nov. 4.

Posted by: hamishdad | November 2, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm a middle aged guy- many years to work- I believe in paying my fair share- I would not complain about a rise in my income tax during this economic crisis....BUT Obama is proposing something way beyond that- his wanting to "spread the wealth around" includes removing the payroll tax cap on Soc. security taxes, a move which Democratic Economic hero Bill Clinton called "Regressive" because it is regressive...the more a small business owner profits, the more she's taxed...it will lead to layoffs in my business and in many many others. Obama wants to send my additional tax dollars to those who currently pay no income tax....and he will have more and more former employees to send checks to. He also will raise business taxes- which we will all pay. He doesn't care- he supports corn ethanol which helps Illinois farmers, makes us all pay higher food prices, and does nothing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil- uses one unit petrol for every one it saves.

So, he's obviously more motivated by what's best for Barack Obama than what's best for America...and IF you're supporting him, he's obviously also successful in fooling you and those like you.


Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse


I'm a middle aged guy- many years to work- I believe in paying my fair share- I would not complain about a rise in my income tax during this economic crisis....BUT Obama is proposing something way beyond that- his wanting to "spread the wealth around" includes removing the payroll tax cap on Soc. security taxes, a move which Democratic Economic hero Bill Clinton called "Regressive" because it is regressive...the more a small business owner profits, the more she's taxed...it will lead to layoffs in my business and in many many others. Obama wants to send my additional tax dollars to those who currently pay no income tax....and he will have more and more former employees to send checks to. He also will raise business taxes- which we will all pay. He doesn't care- he supports corn ethanol which helps Illinois farmers, makes us all pay higher food prices, and does nothing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil- uses one unit petrol for every one it saves.

So, he's obviously more motivated by what's best for Barack Obama than what's best for America...and he's obviously also very successful in fooling you and those like you.

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

LOL! :-D

"Integrity"?

Associations with a Racist, America Bashing "Reverend" of a Racist Church, Ayers, Rezco, and others, and now a Person running for the Job of Federal Law Enforcer, with an Illegal Aunt Freeloading in US Public Housing, and a Rap as the Biggest Socialist Ideologue in the Congress...

IF, that is YOUR idea of Integrity...

The Man has NO Business running for the EXECUTIVE Seat!

NONE Whatsoever!

He is NOT a Military Man, or a Businessman!

He is a LAWYER, and a Beginner Legislator!

Worse YET-HE, is simply a STOOGE for Teddy Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and the World Labor Party, and their Guy-George Soros!

BUT, THAT is really what it is all about now isn't it. The World Labor Party getting Control of the US!

The Empty Suit, is Really meant to be nothing more than just that!

Posted by: SAINT---The | November 2, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

"Clinging to Guns and Religion"-
BHO in SFrancisco

Closing the deal-
(IBD/TIPP @2- Most Accurate in 2004
NBC/Mason Dixon- McCain leading NC/Ohio/Mo)

By Salena Zito
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, November 2, 2008

The narrative of this historic presidential election has come down to which candidate will close the deal and win the trust of Pennsylvania voters.

From the outside looking in, Pennsylvania has become a metaphor for all that is wrong with our country when it comes to race -- especially those of its Democrats who are soft on or wary of Barack Obama.

Yet on the inside, Pennsylvania is far from its broad-brush portrayal as racist. It is not the color of the candidate; it is the culture he represents.

Say what you will, Obama's "spread the wealth" tongue-slip hit home here.

Most Pennsylvania Democrats who live outside of Philadelphia are very Midwestern in their values and their votes.

If they lose their jobs, they go out and get two more to make up for the loss. They do not take handouts and they don't whine; they provide for themselves and their families.

Their voting patterns and other traditions passed along to their sons and daughter will help to decide this election.


"In an odd way, many liberals are tone-deaf about normal people, who worship God, country, sports and their communities and don't care all that much about politics," says former Villanova political scientist Bob Maranto.

Maranto says what's causing Pennsylvania voters to give Obama a second look goes beyond Obama's "share the wealth" notion: "They are suspicious of him and his Ivy League buddies who have never run anything in their lives (but) that now want to run the country."

He adds that "it is all in the arrogance."

Liberal Democrats often have a hard time in this state because they don't understand why voters in poor, rural areas don't "vote their pocketbooks." Frankly, these are not very materialistic people; if you live in Johnstown or in Elk County and you care that much about money, then you will leave for better opportunities in the big city.

People who stay behind don't care as much about money as they care about their families or communities.

To ambitious politicians such as Obama or running mate Joe Biden, that's just crazy; they can't imagine folks who care more about family or community than about getting ahead.

Much the same can be said for the Pittsburgh region, where many people live within a few miles of where they grew up.

Who will close the deal in Pennsylvania? The polls say Obama; the pundits, too.

Let's see what the voters say.

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

After all of the discovery...i think that the dems are so desperate to get into office they would have nominated and elect anybody... Breaking news...Osama Bin Laden found hiding in BHO 's basement...
I can hear the dem excuses now...they would still elect him.
Pretty sad.

Posted by: blevins20061 | November 2, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

SAINT HAVE YOU PERSONALLY ASKED BIN LADEN WHO HE WANTS TO WIN OR DID YOU SMOKE SOME MAGIC POWDER? YOUR INFANTILE SCARE TACTIC NOT WORTHY OF KARL ROVE HE IS BETTER AT BOO THAN YOU. This Cuban American is for THAT ONE! Time to turn the page on the divide and conquer Republicans. Enough is Enough. Our great nation will come together under President Barack Obama and thankfully the American electorate is intelligently choosing a man of intellect and integrity in a landslide. President Obama has survived an onslaught of lies and smears from the team that has no plan for our country. Obama is a communist or socialist? Why then would Bill Gates and Warren Buffet the two wealthiest capitalists on earth be supporting his candidacy? Veterans are for Mc Same? Why then did the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans grade him a D and Barack Obama a B+ look it up at iava.com, Mc Cain did not support the GI Bill education benefits for veterans. Shame on you Mc Same. This decorated veteran has voted proudly for Obama. Vote hope not fear! Much as Mc Same and igloo trash Pailin want to scream Boo we only need fear more Republican leadership. OBAMANOS! SI SE PUEDE! YES WE WILL IN A LANDSLIDE!

Posted by: pedraza1 | November 2, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

You are NO Saint, Al-Qaeda endorsed McCain. Have you ever wondered why?

Posted by: Simon2 | November 2, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

LET'S TALK COAL- OBAMA'S AGAINST IT AND McCAIN'S FOR IT- (anything else?)

Sunday, November 02, 2008
Gateway Pundit
EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO-- Obama Promises San Francisco Audience He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry!!

OBAMA TOLD A SAN FRANCISCO AUDIENCE THAT HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY!!!

ATTN: Coal states Virginia , OHIO, Pennsylvania, Colorado, and Indiana, guess what Obama told San Francisco about you?

OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY:

from his talk to the San Francisco Chronicle in January 2008:


"Let me sort of describe my overall policy.

What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It's just that it will bankrupt them."


This goes hand-in-hand with what he's said about nuclear energy.
His preconditions make it impossible to expand nuclear energy at this time.
From The Wall Street Journal:


On nuclear power, Sen. Obama says he's open to expanding nuclear energy, which now provides 20% of the nation's electricity, as part of an effort to increase power sources that emit little or no carbon dioxide. But he also has said there is no future for expanded nuclear energy until the U.S. comes up with a safe, long-term solution for disposing of nuclear waste. He opposes the Bush administration's plan for storing waste at Yucca Mountain in Nevada.

Posted by: thecannula | November 2, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Do any of these people, or any of the people in the news media, ever wonder what happened to that old McCain, the one from 2000? The 2008 model has become a race-baiting race-card playing opportunist. What a shame.

Posted by: osullivanc1 | November 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Osama bin Laden,
Evo Morales,
Hugo Chavez,
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,
Kim Jung Il,
Vladimir Putin,
and
The Castro Bros;

All want Barack Hussein O'Bomba-Nation to win!

Ever consider WHY?! :-(

Posted by: SAINT---The | November 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

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