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Obama on Climate Change: 'The Time for Denial Is Over'


President-elect Barack Obama sits with former vice president Al Gore after their meeting in Chicago, Dec. 9, 2008. (Charles Dharapak/Associated Press)

By Philip Rucker
President-elect Barack Obama met this afternoon in Chicago with former vice president Al Gore to discuss climate change, declaring after the meeting, "The time for denial is over."

Also attended by Vice President-elect Joe Biden, the meeting was held as Obama prepares to nominate his administration's top environmental officials.

"All three of us are in agreement that the time for delay is over," Obama told a pool of reporters as he sat alongside Gore and Biden at Obama's transition headquarters after the meeting.

"We all believe what the scientists have been telling us for years now," Obama said, "that this is a matter of urgency and national security, and it has to be dealt with in a serious way. That is what I intend my administration to do."

Gore has acted as an adviser to Obama on environmental issues, and Obama today called Gore's work on climate change "extraordinary." But Democratic sources maintain there are no indications Gore is interested in taking a job in the new administration.

Obama could begin naming his nominees for environmental positions at the White House, the departments of Interior and Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency as early as tomorrow, while Gore is expected in Poland later this week for a global climate change conference.

Posted at 4:21 PM ET on Dec 9, 2008  | Category:  Climate Change
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Thank you, Poppaw38. The AP reported today that the current "... cooling trend illustrates how fast the world is warming ..." LOL! Talk about SHEEPLE!

"Up" is "down" now, too, I guess ; )

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 1:59 PM

ALL OF YOU SHEEPLE,WRITE SO INTELIGENT,BUT YOU MAKE NO COMMON SENSE.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
"PEOPLE CREATE 100%OF GLOBAL WARMING"
THAT LEAVES NO "0%" PERCENTAGE FOR ANY OTHER CAUSE.
I AM A 70 YEAR OLD COUNTRYBOY,AND IN MY LIFETIME I HAVE PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO
THE WEATHER,AND SEEN ALL TYPES OF WEATHER
CHANGES,FROM ONE YEAR TO ANOTHER.GROWING UP
THE ONLY THING I HAVE NOTICED IS THE HAZE
WE HAVE,AND IT IS EVERYWHERE,BUT THE EARTH
HAS GONE THROUGH CYCLES,AND THAT IS THE END OF THE DISCUSSION,NO GLOBAL WARMING,
AND HUMAN CONTRIBUTION IS NILL AT BEST.
ALGORE IS MAKEING FOOLS OUT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE,AND MAKING MILLIONS OF $$$,THAT IS THE REASON HE HAS NOT ACCEPTED A POLITICAL
POSITION WITH OBAMA.HE WOULD NOT MAKE THE MONEY HE IS NOW MAKING,MAKING FOOLS BELIVE HIS STORY.

Posted by: Poppaw38 | December 10, 2008 7:37 PM

The Fratboys are out and the grown-ups are in. The "environmentalists were right, the corporatists were wrong.

The last 8 years has been the "Pro-Wrestling" years of politics. All for show, obviously fake, full of bluster and bravado and, in the end, a bunch of old fat guys with shrunken testicles.


Posted by: thebobbob | December 10, 2008 4:29 PM

plathman:

That was included in the posts that were lost in cyberspace. The gist was that we shouldn't accept any "cure" worse than the disease.

P.S. to nodebris: since you won't be able to find any where I stated global warming isn't happening, maybe you can explain how 650 International Scientists are an "incredibly tiny minority"?

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6

Posted by: JakeD | December 10, 2008 12:45 PM

It amazes me to see the shift in 5 months from weaning America off petroleum based fuels to CNG & electric energy propulsion. We know CNG works and the EV1 in the late 90's was on the way to becoming viable. Selling the idea of lower emission vehicles using petroleum is the equivlent of correcting a gunshot wound, w/the bullet still inside, by use of a bandaid, when their is proven practacality & bottom line rewards w/CNG & eventually electric vehicles via fuel cell or hydrogen sourced. W/O the guts & leadership to move forward w/the writting on the wall, perhaps this is a major defining choice if America moves forward w/what we know is right or we keep using petroleum as a fuel source. America is abundant w/untapped natural gas sources and Canada is said to hold over 60% of the worlds natural gas reserves. It's time to put the brakes on current fuel sources, retool The Detroit 3 for CNG & eventually electric, or accept the fact that America is w/o the ability to get it's act together in changing to clean sources of energy.
Are their any new jokes about "CLEAN COAL USE" out there?- If we are gulable enough to buy "clean coal" BS, we qualify as a second rate country run by fools that refuse to deal w/reality. Enabeling the coal industry to advertise "Clean Coal" w/o a means of proof needs serious scruitny-Let the coal industry PROVE IT!
We all deplore "junk email", is there a "BIG" difference w/what the coal industry is feeding us?
12/10

Posted by: raykeith7 | December 10, 2008 11:19 AM

Global warming is a hoax!!! Say it loud. Repeat. Find some scientists who disagree and make their views seem as valid as over 90% of the scientific community.

Once again, deniers are at it. Citing scientists who are paid through the American Enterprise Institute (the guys who brought you war in Iraq), deniers eagerly spout "see, see" as if by deluding themselves they are doing good for humanity.

Wake up! Global Climate Change is happening as we speak. All your dubious outsourcing changes that dynamic not one whit.

Posted by: dennis_donaghey | December 10, 2008 9:40 AM

JakeD, you still don't address my other issue. If I accept your premise that indeed it's true that humans don't have a role in causing global warming, why shouldn't we conserve energy, find ways to use it more efficiently and find other sources for it?

If there's no hope to save the planet as it is (this is essentially what you're claiming if you say we don't cause global warming and can't do anything to stop it), that is still not an argument against doing many of the things Al Gore, for example, proposes we do. Maybe, if what you and your team of scientists say is true, we can't stop the oceans from rising or the deserts from expanding, but as the population of the world continues to grow (and with your proposed ban on elective abortions, it would skyrocket in places like China), we absolutely have to find ways to produce more energy and make our use of it more efficient.

The question is, then, even if environmentalists' premises may be wrong, why shouldn't we do the things they want us to do given the benefits of these initiatives for national security (which you dismiss) and social justice for the poor (which you may or may not dismiss)? The added benefit would be stopping or slowing global warming if humans do have a large role.

Posted by: plathman | December 10, 2008 9:24 AM

Global Warming is a hoax created by lying persons with an agenda to make money they don't deserve (Gore). The research is out there dispproving global warming. Don't be a dunce and fall for everything the dems throw at you.

Posted by: tx2626 | December 10, 2008 9:08 AM

nodebris:

How about you start by posting where I have ever denied that global warming exists?

Posted by: JakeD | December 10, 2008 5:59 AM

JakeD wrote: "We don't deny that the earth is warming up."

Well, not this week. You did as long as you could. Now you're just trying to minimize the effect of admitting that humans are responsible. Like by saying it's probably only 10% responsible, in your sagacious and informed opinion. So rest easy, everyone.

You should edit your sentence starting "Scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming express varied opinions . . . " by prefacing it with the words "The incredibly tiny minority of."

Ah, and so if you don't get your ban on elective abortions, you're willing to take out the rest of humanity? Hard to figure out the ethical underpinnings of that offer. But at least we can see who we're bargaining with.

You're on a roll this week, JakeD. Obama's not an American, Global Climate Change is just a bargaining chip, next I guess you'll be advocating the election of any moron as long as they say they're against abortion. Oh, wait a minute . . . that's right . . .

Posted by: nodebris | December 10, 2008 12:48 AM

plathman:

My fully cited response was not allowed to be posted (maybe it was too long). I think it's much closer to 10% than 90%, but I also offered to consider your proposal in exchange for a complete ban on all elective abortions. Here's the nutshell version (without links to cites):

Scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming express varied opinions concerning the cause of global warming. Some say only that it has not yet been ascertained whether humans are the primary cause of global warming (e.g., Balling, Lindzen, and Spencer). Others attribute global warming to natural variation (e.g., Soon and Baliunas), ocean currents (e.g., Gray), increased solar activity (e.g., Shaviv and Veizer), cosmic rays (e.g., Svensmark), or unknown natural causes (e.g., Leroux).

Posted by: JakeD | December 9, 2008 6:42 PM

JakeD denies "that humans account for 100%" of global warming. Is there a certain per cent for which you would say humans account? If it's something like 90%, then it makes sense for us to do something. If it's something like 10%, perhaps it doesn't. What sources have you read to make your decision? I'd like to examine them.

Once could use a version of the argument Christians use against atheists to argue for the existence of god (i.e. if i'm wrong, i lose nothing; if i'm right i gain everything) to talk to people who deny a human hand in climate change. If I'm wrong, we end up with more efficient industry and a cleaner air and water as our environment disappears under the rising seas or turns into enlarging deserts. If I'm right, we do something to maintain the areas we love for our grandchildren.

Posted by: plathman | December 9, 2008 6:00 PM

Gore must have turned down any Obama offer. I'm sure the president-elect realized his growing problem with left anger, so dissing Gore on his part would have been horrifying. Gore obviously was the one doing the dissing...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | December 9, 2008 4:43 PM

We don't deny that the earth is warming up. What we deny is that humans account for 100% of that warming, that we can realistically do anything about it, and therefore that this is a matter of urgency and national security, and it has to be dealt with in a serious way.

Posted by: JakeD | December 9, 2008 4:31 PM

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