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In Obama Train Trip, Echoes of Lincoln

By Anne E. Kornblut
Following in Abraham Lincoln's steps once more, President-elect Barack Obama is planning to travel by train to Washington ahead of his inaugural next month -- starting in Philadelphia, where Lincoln delivered an address while en route to the District from Springfield, Ill., in 1861.

Obama and his family will ride a special charter train, an inaugural spokeswoman said. From Philadelphia, they will make a journey familiar to commuters along the Northeast corridor: riding to Wilmington, to pick up Vice President-elect Joe Biden and his family; then on to Baltimore, for another event. Obama's trip will take place on a single day -- Saturday, Jan. 17 -- and wind up in Washington that night, making for a less arduous journey than the multiweek trip Lincoln took in February of 1861 (and which included, along the way, news of the infamous "Baltimore Plot" to assassinate him en route).

It is unclear where Obama will be immediately before Philadelphia, or what events he will hold in the cities along the way, although he is expected to be living in Washington already by that time.

"As part of the most open and accessible Inauguration in history, we hope to include as many Americans as possible who wish to participate, but can't be in Washington," Emmett S. Beliveau, executive director of the 2009 Presidential Inaugural Committee, said in a statement. "These events will allow us to do that while honoring the rich history and tradition of previous inaugural journeys."

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vegasgirl1 or TheBabeNemo:

Are you still around? For the record, you were criticizing ME yesterday for being away from my computer ; )

Posted by: JakeD | December 16, 2008 2:04 PM

Jturton90:

Lincoln's final trip back to Illinois was aboard a train too -- that was a powerful image as well don't you think -- at least I don't post that "the MOFO needs a bullet between his eyes" like someone did about Bush in the Barney thread.

Posted by: JakeD | December 16, 2008 8:13 AM

I would also like to take the moment to agree with peterdc. Obama should develop his own way for his inauguration. But a strong image is always necessary, especially due to his inexperience in foreign policy, which a strong image will be able to compensate.

Posted by: Jturton90 | December 16, 2008 12:08 AM


RE throwing shoes....

Now George was nearly hit by a shoe...
And he ducked as through the air it flew.
So from their response
And without nonchalance
The Arabs have bid him adieu.


Posted by: Billw3 | December 16, 2008 12:00 AM

Also, with Obama's policies on the economy and change it would be most fitting to characterise these as a train following an organised path of the rails.

Also im guessing a lot of public works are going to have to be pursued by the Obama administration to counter the rise of unemployment that has come about because of the global credit crunch that, as well as a massive overhaul of the whole banking system surely.

Posted by: Jturton90 | December 15, 2008 11:43 PM

I like the idea of Obama echoing Lincoln, except the whole assassination thing that was just bad.
But a train really does symbolise a dramatic force that will change the landscape of politics, just as trains changed the face of industry.

Posted by: Jturton90 | December 15, 2008 10:21 PM

That being said, God's Will Be Done! I'm hoping it's just political fallout, because I don't want ANY actual disaster to occur. That's why I wanted McCain to be elected President. I'm afraid, however, that those of you who have forgotten 9/11 will soon be reminded.

Besides, if Obama is who I think he is, then it won't even matter if someone tries to assassinate him. Based on Zech. 11:17 and Rev. 13:2-3, some theologians believe that the antichrist will suffer a head wound that will be fatal; but, like the devil who imitates the truth in order to deceive, the antichrist will "rise" from the dead. Look it up, if you don't believe me.

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 9:00 PM

Just to be clear, I don't want anything PHYSICAL to happen to Obama, whether it's a shoe being thrown at him or anything worse.

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 8:35 PM

TheBabeNemo:

That really doesn't answer my question. You think all these BILL CLINTON appointees are the "Change We Can Believe In"?! I doubt that Obama would have won had he revealed these appointments before the election.

And, no, Obama being African American is not the "change" I hate (for the record, I simply support a different African-American ; )

It's fair to ask what Obama (and Rahm) knew and when did he know about all of these emerging scandals. I'm still waiting to see how the Rezko investigation shakes out. How many "innocent" acquaintances / appointments do you think are too many to be simply written off as "coincidences"?

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 6:48 PM


and change #3 before I split home....

the CHANGE.GOV website.
Not even Al Gore, who invented the Internet, reached out like President Elect Obama and Vice President Elect Joe Biden have--- on the Internet.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 6:42 PM

change #2
-children will be back in the White House. And Grandmother is coming too. Who was the last Pres that did that????
additionally:
as quoted:
"Rahm ISRAEL Emanuel won't even talk while grand juries are plugging away on Rezko, Richardson, etc."
Wise of him not to comment while deliberation and the case is ongoing.

"Also, Bill JEFFERSON Clinton is going to finally reveal his Foundation's contributors, before the end of the year, and there will be some interesting people on that list, I am sure."
Who cares what money Bill took with his Foundation. That's like saying Barack is guilty of the Auto Industry debacle cause he drives a car.

"How many more shocking revelations can Barack HUSSEIN Obama, Jr. (assuming that Sr. is even his real father) endure?"
There are no revelations of TRUTH in anything that has been reported. There are revelations of ASSUMPTIONS.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 6:39 PM


that's the entry the POST pulled...
however, the first change on the list
#1-President Elect Obama is African American. Is that the change you hate?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 6:33 PM

Please answer my question to you first.

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 6:27 PM

okay, let's see...
you have a
---Prophet article ...(did the Prophet predict what's on the dinner menu for the inauguration too?)
---the Blago scandal (i think Barack had lunch with him 2 times in 4 years)
and the Keyes lawsuit....(oh yeah, the sore loser who wants to rewrite the Constitution and USCODE title 8.)

Whatcha gonna do when nothing is found, no daggers can be shoved in Barack's back, and there's no scandal?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 6:15 PM

hey jake
i listed a bunch of changes in my entry
and the POST held it up for further review.........go figure....

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 6:07 PM

vegasgirl1 (and, now, TheBabeNemo):

I'm home ... even though you never answered MY question:

L.A. Times article: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-moment13-2008dec13,0,2231803.story

Fitzgerald's criminal complaint: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/pdf/12092008_blagojevichcharges.pdf

Keyes' lawsuit: http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf

Don't forget that there's plenty more where that came from, because Rahm ISRAEL Emanuel won't even talk while grand juries are plugging away on Rezko, Richardson, etc. Also, Bill JEFFERSON Clinton is going to finally reveal his Foundation's contributors, before the end of the year, and there will be some interesting people on that list, I am sure. How many more shocking revelations can Barack HUSSEIN Obama, Jr. (assuming that Sr. is even his real father) endure? Five weeks until Inauguration Day is a LONG WAYS away ; )

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 6:02 PM

TheBabeNemo:

Can you suggest "change" in the form of anyone else NOT part of the Bill Clinton Administration?

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 5:27 PM

vegasgirl...
thank you.......

With Xmas right around the corner and the new era of Obama comin' in office, I have been so very happy the last few weeks.
I do have a re-newed sense of hope that we can come out of this multi-faceted mess we are facing.
I have been at CHANGE.GOV, the website President Elect Obama has. It is wonderful website. You can suggest ideas.....
Go there and check it out.
(((( big grins ))))

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 5:25 PM

vegasgirl1:

I'm waiting.

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 5:18 PM

The BabeNemo wrote:
"Jake is going to Wash DC
and throw shoes at Barack on 1-20-09. 'Course, Jake will undoubtedly get trampled on."

Excellent post, Babe! You nailed it! (You've had some great posts here today, too!)
t's been fun sparring with JakeD and his right-wing fuminations, but at the end day, his stuff is more sad than amusing.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 5:17 PM

That doesn't answer my question. "Yes" or "no" please.

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 5:14 PM

As soon as you answer MY question too: "Have you considered a psychiatric evaluation?"

My mental health is fine, Jake. I'm not the one who spouts false predictions or prostitutes himself on behalf of Republicans (or Democrats, for that matter)
So, looks like your comeback falls as flat as your lame predictions.
Back to the drawing board for you, Jake.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 5:12 PM


Jake is going to Wash DC
and throw shoes at Barack on 1-20-09.

'Course, Jake will undoubtedly get trampled on.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 5:11 PM

gee, i too, wonder why President-Elect Obama won't be sworn in on 01-20-09.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 5:10 PM

I'm out today on my iPhone. If you really want the web addresses for all of that, it will have to wait until tonight ; )

Um, Jake: No one gives a rat's patoot where you are. And for you to call out Obama out on the Ill. gov. matter why mindlessly defending the GOP and Bush on every little thing is immensely hypocritcal and downright hilarious.
Have fun on the Free Republic Web site, Jake. And while you're at it, get a life.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 5:09 PM

is anyone watching the press conference on the Energy Team right now?

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 5:08 PM

As soon as you answer MY question too: "Have you considered a psychiatric evaluation?"

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 5:06 PM

Aw, gee looks like JakeD is just your typical wuss who can dish it out, but can't take it -- just like those nasty, evil, baby-killing, socialist "libruls," right, Jake?


Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 5:06 PM

I'm out today on my iPhone. If you really want the web addresses for all of that, it will have to wait until tonight ; )

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 5:04 PM

It doesn't take a prophet to read everything from the Keyes' lawsuit to Fitzgerald's indictment and predict Obama will not be sworn in. In addition, there was an actual "prophet" quoted in the L.A. Times saying Obama won't be inaugurated either. You want all of those cites?

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 5:03 PM

OK, JakeD, we're waiting.
Be a man and back up your statement of why Obama won't be sworn in.

(*tick, tock ...*)

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 5:01 PM

Jake D wrote: "I am not casting any stones -- just a prediction, that's all -- BTW: I am not going anywhere until the Good Lord calls me home."

Well, Jake: It seems you're a prophet.
Arrogant, stupid and delusional, all in one package. Hope you're proud of yourself, man.
And you wonder why the conservative movement is in such lousy shape ....
people like you are the main reason why.
Get a clue, man.
And please spare us your self-righteous use of God in your posts. Most of what you write is ANYTHING but Christian.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 4:58 PM

(Pardon that first response, posters.)
Here's it is, refined:

Jake D wrote:
"vegasgirl1:No, have you?"


Ha, ha. Nice comeback (not that I wasn't expecting it; it was utterly predictable, coming from you) -- but I'm not the one who spouts pure and utter BS like you do on a regular basis.
Your posts are a disgrace to conservatism.
Face it, your guy lost. Sorry, but be a grown up and deal with it.
And please, enlighten us, as you apparently have some inside knowledge the rest of us don't: Why, exactly, will Obama not be sworn in?
Provide details, sources, quotes, etc.
There's the challenge, Jake; astonish us with some actual legitimate information for a change.
Otherwise, you DO sound like you're just another right-wing nutbjob.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 4:54 PM

Barack Obama
In Obama Train Trip, Echoes of Lincoln
By Anne E. Kornblut
Following in Abraham Lincoln's steps once more, President-elect Barack Obama is planning to travel by train to Washington ahead of his inaugural next month -- starting in Philadelphia, where Lincoln delivered an address while en route to the District from Springfield, Ill., in 1861.

Obama and his family will ride a special charter train, an inaugural spokeswoman said. From Philadelphia, they will make a journey familiar to commuters along the Northeast corridor: riding to Wilmington, to pick up Vice President-elect Joe Biden and his family; then on to Baltimore, for another event. Obama's trip will take place on a single day -- Saturday, Jan. 17 -- and wind up in Washington that night, making for a less arduous journey than the multiweek trip Lincoln took in February of 1861 (and which included, along the way, news of the infamous "Baltimore Plot" to assassinate him en route).

It is unclear where Obama will be immediately before Philadelphia, or what events he will hold in the cities along the way, although he is expected to be living in Washington already by that time.

"As part of the most open and accessible Inauguration in history, we hope to include as many Americans as possible who wish to participate, but can't be in Washington," Emmett S. Beliveau, executive director of the 2009 Presidential Inaugural Committee, said in a statement. "These events will allow us to do that while honoring the rich history and tradition of previous inaugural journeys."

Posted at 10:32 AM ET on Dec 15, 2008 | Category: Barack Obama
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vegasgirl1:

No, have you?


Ha, ha. Nice comeback (not that I wasn't expecting it; it was predictable, coming from you) -- but I'm not the one who spouts pure and utter BS like you do on a regular basis.
Your posts are a disgrace to conservatism.
Face it, your guy lost. Sorry, but be a grown up and deal with it.
And please, enlighten us, as you apparently have some inside knowledge the rest of us don't: Why, exactly, will Obama not be sworn in?
Provide details, sources, quotes, etc.
There's the challenge, Jake; astonish us with some actual legitimate information for a change.
Otherwise, you DO sound like you're just another right-wing nutbjob.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 4:52 PM

Can you consider it a whistle stop, since the trains have horns??

Posted by: jimwhite1 | December 15, 2008 4:49 PM

vegasgirl1:

No, have you?

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 4:48 PM

TheBabeNemo:

I am not casting any stones -- just a prediction, that's all -- BTW: I am not going anywhere until the Good Lord calls me home.

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 4:48 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama, Jr. will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Jake: Have you considered a psychiatric evaluation?
You really sound mentally ill, man. Give it up, please. You've gone from amusing to just plain pathetic.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | December 15, 2008 4:47 PM

this is a great idea. Whistle Stops.

2.4 million people are expected on the Washington DC mall on Jan 20th.
that's alot of people....

I see some people just can't accept the fact that Barack has been elected our 44th President.
The press is "chompin' at the bit" to find something wrong......even before he takes office (hint hint at Gov Blago)....
and the people that are "mad as hell" that HE WON THE RACE....
still won't accept it and demean him in every post and entry I see (and I am all over the Internet)

We, as in the American collective, are never satisfied -----we want to see that blood on the floor with everything, uh?
The dirtier it is, the more crooked it is, the more sickening it is....we just love it, don't we?

There's ALWAYS something wrong with everything isn't there America????

If one cannot accept President-Elect Obama as our President, get the bleepin'
*&*^*% out of this country then.

If you cannot say something decent (in your presumed judgement), then don't say it.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.


Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 15, 2008 4:40 PM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama, Jr. will not be sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.

Posted by: JakeD | December 15, 2008 4:08 PM

The most open and accessable inauguration in history?
Surely you jest, what about Andrew Jackson and his "People's Inauguration". Today's equivalent would be opening up all the homeless shelters and bringing them into the Whitehouse with silver service.

Posted by: tniederberger | December 15, 2008 3:28 PM

"In BHO's enthusiasm to emulate Lincoln, we'd best hope BHO doesn't decide "for looks" also to suspend the writ of habeus corpus.

Posted by: DoTheRightThing | December 15, 2008 2:55 PM |"
-------
No that was already done for him.

BTW: Why shouldn't he want to emulate Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln was a great President from Illinois and did not have a lot of experience when elected.

Who would you have him emulate?, Herbert Hoover?, Richard Nixon?

Posted by: JRM2 | December 15, 2008 3:16 PM

In BHO's enthusiasm to emulate Lincoln, we'd best hope BHO doesn't decide "for looks" also to suspend the writ of habeus corpus.

Posted by: DoTheRightThing | December 15, 2008 2:55 PM

Train travel may get cool again, and I say hooray for that.

Posted by: umprof | December 15, 2008 2:47 PM

Does that mean Union troops are going to sneak him in to Washington.. Then after that will Obama have the Mayor of Baltimore arrested... I'm so confused..

Posted by: jimwhite1 | December 15, 2008 2:31 PM

Let him do whatever he wants to do. It is no different than when Clinton emulated Thomas Jefferson's route to DC.

Posted by: Slicer7 | December 15, 2008 1:31 PM

Oh Puhleez already, I think he is carrying this 'Lincoln' emulation (or is it obsession) just a little bit too far, he is just an ordinary politco and has yet to be tested.

Posted by: Stevedoro | December 15, 2008 1:17 PM

This is getting really silly


really silly


Obama should really do a little more research on the actual circumstances of Lincoln going to Washington that year


Posted by: 37thandORules | December 15, 2008 1:12 PM

I think Obama should cut the Lincoln comparisons and just develop a schedule that is the Obama schedule and way of doing things.

Let future President's not immitate Lincoln but rather follow Obama's schedule.

I like the idea of Obama taking a train down the Northeast corridor as it gives many people a chance to see him and they don't have to come to DC to do it. Why not start in NY? And make a day of it on the 17th from where the first President was inaugurated.

Posted by: peterdc | December 15, 2008 12:09 PM

Echoing Lincoln? You can't be serious. He's on a train from Philly, not from Springfield. I like Obama fine, but can we refrain from the overdone comparisons? Ugh.

Posted by: jay4811 | December 15, 2008 11:38 AM

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