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Obama Reaches Out to Governors

Updated 1:49 p.m.
By Michael D. Shear and William Branigin
PHILADELPHIA -- President-elect Barack Obama reached out to the nation's governors today, extending "the hand of friendship" to Republicans among them and meeting privately with several as he sought input on how best to stimulate the economy while helping states deal with their budget crises.

Before meeting with the governors, who gathered in Philadelphia for a conference of the National Governors Association, Obama cautioned that the nation faces hard choices in the months ahead, and he pledged to listen to the state executives regardless of party affiliation.

Departing from his prepared remarks in an opening statement, Obama offered Republican governors "the same commitment to partnership" that he extends to Democratic colleagues and vowed to cast aside ideological considerations.

"There is a time for campaigning, and there is a time for governing," Obama told the group after an introduction by Vice President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. "And one of the messages that Joe and I want to continually send is that we are not going to be hampered by ideology in trying to get this country back on track."

Obama added: "We want to figure out what works. That doesn't mean that we're not going to have some disagreements. But what it does mean is that if you can show me something you are doing that's working, or if you tell me that this program or this regulation is hampering us from doing smart things that will advance the interests of our state, then you're going to have a ready ear."

The president-elect warned the governors, "We are not, as a nation, going to be able to just keep on printing money. So at some point, we're also going to have to make some long-term decisions in terms of fiscal responsibility. And not all of those choices are going to be popular."

He promised them, however, "I'm going listen to you. I'm going to seek your counsel. And, by the way, I'm going listen to you especially when we disagree, because one of the things that has served me well at least in my career is discovering that I don't know everything."

He said the governors "are going to be extraordinarily important in keeping us on track, not allowing Joe and myself to get infected with Washingtonitis, and to constantly be reminded of the realities that are happening to folks back home."

Several members of the Republican Governors Association were scheduled to present a letter summarizing their principles to Obama after the meeting.

"Today's meeting represents an opportunity to come together and forge solutions to the current economic crisis," the RGA chairman, South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford (R), said in a statement. "It is important these solutions be based on the same common-sense principles that have made America the economic envy of the world for generations."
Obama is pushing a massive economic stimulus package to "jolt" the economy. But the success of those efforts will depend on how well the money for infrastructure spending can flow through the states and into transportation, education and other projects.

At the governor's meeting, all eyes were expected to be on several governors who are prominently in the news: New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D), who is widely expected to be named commerce secretary, and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who was the GOP vice-presidential candidate in the Nov. 4 election.

Following are the prepared remarks of Obama and Biden to the governors:

Remarks of President-elect Barack Obama
National Governors Association Meeting
Tuesday, December 2, 2008
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Good morning.

It always feels like a bit of a homecoming when I meet with governors. Because while I stand here today as President-elect, I will never forget the eight years I served in the state Senate in Illinois. It is in state and local government that the rubber hits the road. Of all our elected leaders, you are the ones people count on most to solve the problems in their communities and to help them get by in difficult times. And it's your state governments that bear some of the toughest burdens when an economic crisis strikes.

That is what we're seeing today.

Every one of you is struggling to come up with a budget at a time when you're facing great and growing needs. More and more people are turning to you for help with health care or affordable housing - even as tightening credit markets and falling tax revenues make it more and more difficult to provide that help.

Forty-one states are likely to face budget shortfalls this year or next, forcing you to choose between reining in spending and raising taxes. Jobs are being cut. Programs for the needy are at risk. Libraries, parks, and historic sites are being closed. Right here in Philadelphia, over two hundred workers are being laid off - and hundreds more unfilled positions are being eliminated.

Meanwhile, virtually all of you are facing the additional challenge of a state constitution that requires you to balance your budget, leaving you with the impossible choice of either helping families at the risk of violating your constitution or upholding your constitution at the expense of helping families.

To solve this crisis and to ease the burden on our states, we need action - and action now. That means passing an economic recovery plan for both Wall Street and Main Street that jumpstarts our economy, helps save or create two and a half million jobs, puts tax cuts into the pockets of hard-pressed middle class families, and makes a down payment on the investments we need to build a strong economy for years to come.

But we also have to recognize that any true solution will not come from Washington alone. It will come from all of you. It will come from the White House and the State House working together every step of the way. That is the kind of strong partnership I intend to build as President of the United States.

Today is our chance to lay the foundation for that partnership. Over the next few hours, I look forward to hearing about the problems you're facing, learning about the work you're doing, and discussing some of the ways we can work together to reduce health care costs, rebuild our crumbling roads, bridges, and schools, and ensure that more families can stay in their homes.

But the partnership we begin here must not - and will not - end here. As President, I will not simply ask our nation's governors to help implement our economic recovery plan. I will ask you to help design that plan. Because if we're listening to our governors, we'll not only be doing what's right for our states, we'll be doing what's right for our country. That's how we'll grow our economy - from the bottom-up. And that's how we'll put America on the path to long-term prosperity.

Make no mistake: these are difficult times, and we're going to have to make hard choices in the months ahead about how to invest precious tax dollars and how to save them - hard choices like the ones you're making right now. I won't stand here and tell you that you'll like all the decisions I make. You probably won't. But I promise you this - as President, I will seek your counsel. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And we will once again be true partners in the work of rebuilding our economy, strengthening our states, and lifting up our entire country.

To our Republican colleagues, let me just say a special word. I offer you the same hand of friendship and cooperation that I offer our Democratic governors. We have a strong and vibrant democracy. We compete vigorously during an election. But with the end of that season comes the time to govern together - and that time is now.

It was Justice Brandeis who said, during a period of far greater turmoil in our markets, that one of the blessings of our democracy was that - and I quote - "a single courageous state may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory," experimenting with innovative solutions to its economic problems. That is the spirit of courage and ingenuity that so many of you embody. And that is the spirit I want to reclaim in this country - one where our states are testing new ideas, where Washington is investing in what works, and where you and I are working in partnership to move this country forward. Thank you.

Remarks of Vice President-Elect Joe Biden
National Governors Association Meeting
Tuesday, December 2, 2008
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Thank you, Governor Rendell and Governor Douglas.

And Governor Palin, your being here today sends a powerful message that when campaigns end, we are all partners in progress. Thank you.

I always love events where seating is done by when your state entered the union. That's when it's good to be a Delawarean, and it's good to see Governor-elect Jack Markell here.

Over the course of the campaign, I had the opportunity to travel through many of your states.

Often, I'd be on a bus, and one of you - or a local official - would point out local landmarks.

And the commentary was almost always, "This used to be."

This "used to be" a steel mill. This town "used to be" the ceramics capital of America.

This factory "used to" employ 1,200 people. A company "used to have" their headquarters here.

We'll know we've turned the corner when we hear a lot less "This used to be..." and a lot more "this is going to be."

In order to get to "This is going to be" we need to build a partnership with you - that is much more robust and much deeper.

And in doing that, the partnership we're able to build with all of you is crucial.

Eric Sevareid once told President Kennedy that: "It doesn't make much sense when two people are sitting in a boat for one of them to point a finger accusingly at the other and say `your end of the boat is sinking.'"

Our nation can't succeed unless our states succeed.

Barack and I recognize this.

And we recognize that you've all been incredibly hard hit by this economic crisis.

Already 41 states are looking at budget shortfalls this year or next.

That is why help for you - everything from direct aid, to countercyclical investments, to benefit programs, to infrastructure investment - will be key parts of our economic plan.

On infrastructure specifically, we have a huge opportunity. China invests 7-9 percent of its GDP in infrastructure projects. We invest just 1 percent. There's a reason they have a mag-lev train that can go over 200 miles per hour.

I may have a bit of a pro-rail bias, but think of the jobs we could create - in both construction and innovation - if we made similarly bold investments here.

We should fast-track funding for the thousands of ready-to-go projects across the country that can quickly put people back to work and lay the foundation for long-term growth.

In the longer term, we are calling for the creation of a new National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank that will help us make the investments we need to build a 21st century transportation system - while creating jobs and taking the politics out of infrastructure spending. And it has the added benefit of making American business more competitive in the world.

We believe that, together, we can make this country again, in the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson, a place "of beginnings, of projects, of vast designs and expectations."

Despite all of our challenges, I'm struck by how hopeful our nation remains...

... People understand the serious challenges we face - but they also believe that with leadership in Washington and in your states that gives people the chance to succeed - there's nothing we can't do.

We should view this moment of challenge as a moment of great opportunity ---

Perhaps most importantly, Barack understands that change is a means, and not an end. And together, we can change "this used to be" into "this is going to be."

It is now my pleasure to introduce a man who has inspired this nation, and who I am honored to join as a partner in leading this nation.

Please join me in welcoming President-elect Barack Obama.

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Why can't the few just accept the fact that Obama will be the next pres.? I have seen his birth certificate and it is real.

Posted by: easyoldrider | December 3, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

The state financial crises are a direct result of the "we'll mandate it but you'll have to pay for it" policies of the Republicans.

As a citizen of California, I'm supposed to pay for the next aircraft carrier, educate kids in Arkansas and keep illegals from being hired by a meat packer in Kansas because my state pays more into the treasury than we take out.

How about if we just keep our tax money and balance our budget. We'll use our offshore oil. We'll send you all the illegals you can use and you all can wonder where "your" money went.

Libertarians and conservatives had better be careful what they wish for. National problems need national solutions and I'll gladly pay my share when this nonsense about national priorities funded by local spending ends.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | December 3, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

A repuglican poster here said:

> "does the term "fiscal irresponsibility" mean anything to these governors or Obama?

> i really enjoy watching Keynesian-lovers blame everything on the "free market" while lionizing their command/centralized Federal Reserve system. this is a priceless meltdown. but it's only priceless because i don't know what comes after trillion."

What comes after the trillion that Bush borrowed from China and gave to his rich friends, is Obama's financial responsibility, the kind which will make this country great again, like it was under Clinton.

Making this country not an international joke anymore, ending the spying on Americans, stopping Bush's pointless wars, and restoring employment so it's like when the democrats LAST ran things is all just icing on the cake.

-- faye kane, homeless brain
See more of my smartmouth opinions at

Posted by: FayeKane_HomelessSmartypants | December 2, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD |Dec 2, 2008 6:41 PM
"Why isn't Obama selecting more DEMOCRATS from States with Republican Governors? Take Sen. Boxer or Feinstein, PLEASE!!!"

Because Senators Boxer and Feinstein will not produce their original long form birth certificates!!!!!!!!

What's with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: knjincvc | December 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Election's over. You lost. Get a life.

Posted by: mashie | December 2, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Here's a suggestion Hussein Nobama.... RESIGN!

I know, it won't happen. But if you do, take PLUGS and PELOSI with you.

God we are in trouble.

Posted by: WmJLePetomane | December 2, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse


I want a government people care about.
I want public debate. It's the stuff that happens in secret that scares me.
If you're willing to give up your rights, somebody sure will be happy to take them from you.

We're a messy democracy.
Ain't it cool?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | December 2, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

First Obama shouldn't give Govenor Arnie one dime as Arnie gives big brakes to the wealthy. Plus Obama shouldn't listen to Arnie about body building as Arnie uses illegal drugs.

Let me call to Joe is the best as VP. He put Sarah Palin in her place with words she doesn't understand. First Dude will explain it to her when she gets home. Right now First Dude is running the Alaskan Govenment and raising the two girls by himself. Yes Bristol got her baby back and now is waiting to deliver her second child. Sarah is still campaigning for the White House, please somebody tell her the race is over and she lost.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | December 2, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse


Good lord calls you home? best not talk the Lord up like that. He truly hates ugly and you sure have a lot of it I have to say.

Your accusations are incredibly stupid and ignorant and sad. almost like the last breath of a dying fool.

oh well. Whatever floats your boat.

Posted by: llewis40 | December 2, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse


Stick around as long as you like. I'm not bothered by a little discussion. Hopefully you don't find my disagreement disagreeable.

I knew what you were referring to and I suppose my comment was merely speculative which I think is allowed on a blog. Call my statement an opinion if you wish.

Yes, the case was not decided on it's merit
because it was declined. So the plaintiff over-reached and fell short.

It would have been simple enough for the RNC on behalf of John McCain to give it merit - why didn't they? Could it be because he was also named in a suit questioning his natural born status?

And do I understand correctly that the SCOTUS can only review whether it was proper for the lower court to dismiss?

As far as Obama's position, I ask why he needs to provide further proof when sufficient legal proof has already been given? I can't see why he should be required to meet a higher burden of proof when other candidates were not required to do so. Of course, I suppose that is the PURPOSE of the suit, to establish a higher burden on people who aren't actually elected (or even electable) which by default singles out Obama.

Since I don't sit on a court, you can take the value of any opinion I may express for exactly what it's worth.


Posted by: JohnQuimby | December 2, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse


Im very surprised that some of you folks are still feeding into the bigoted, hateful, sour grape eating wet farts like this JakeD. idiot.

He and others of their ilk will never let this hate they have for OBAMA go. They will never accept him as their president. And to be fair I never accepted Bush either. To much of a dope for my tastes. But that's that.

I say it would be best not to feed these fools. They just need to step aside and observe history in the making.As of now they are irrelevant.

Posted by: llewis40 | December 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, I add my voice to the others in observing that you are experiencing a delusion if you actually believe the Supreme Court will agree to hear the cases against Obama. First of all, the original birth certificate for anyone in the U.S. is going to remain sealed, only copies are legally available. Secondly, the authenticity has been verified by the Governor of Hawaii (a Republican) and other credible state officials. Thirdly, Obama has had to confirm his natural citizenship on several occasions in the course of his professional life, without incident.

The only people who do not want to believe he is a natural born citizen are the quacks who print stories, spread rumors to people like you who are apparently gullible enough to believe them, or of a mind to want to believe them. In either case, your next President is Obama.

Posted by: rrau22 | December 2, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Will Hawaii's Governor be there? Maybe they can discuss the sealed (long form) birth certificate that Obama refuses to release?

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 10:06 AM
I don't see Obama taking such a risk. It would ruin his career and throw the country into an incredible crisis. Why would he do it? This accusation is ridiculous on its face.

Posted by: smc91 | December 2, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse


The "canard" I was referring to was your unsubstantiated claim that I "really like it" when the Supreme Court picks the President. FYI: that federal lawsuit was dismissed because of the plaintiff's lack of standing. No case has been decided on the merits, because Obama has not produced his LONG FORM birth certificate. That's a legitimate basis for the lawsuit. Unfortunately, only an actual candidate for President -- like Alan Keyes -- can challenge Obama's qualifications in court. If Obama was my client, I would want to know why he won't simply put the issue to rest by releasing his LONG FORM birth certificate. If he is a "natural born" citizen, then I would agree that Keyes has little chance : )


No, I will not leave this site until the Good Lord calls me home. I don't practice law anymore, so there's nothing I can help with. And, I am not "wimping out" when I just told you I would gladly repeat it. I still don't think that Barack HUSSEIN Obama will be inaugurated on January 20. 2009. I'm not sure why you think that's "pompous" though.

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse


A canard is a deliberately misleading fabrication. (yes, I looked it up). A federal court has already declined to take up the matter. Hmmm. Canard might best describe the basis for this whole legal action.

If the original action had legal legs, why do you suppose the RNC was not party to it in the first place? The suit was, after all, dismissed in October - when it might have actually mattered.

Perhaps the problem is that the suit demands that Obama provide proof of something which has already been legally proven.

I know you have a legal mind...and duly note your scruples - but if Obama was your client, you'd have to admit that he has very little to worry about.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | December 2, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, go help those who do have standing and leave this site for meaningful discussion.

Do not wimp out. I don't care what Obama's standing is, lets hear you repeat your statement about Obama not being inaugurated. You still have this lawsuit which has not yet been resolved. You were perfectly willing to make the silly pronouncement that Obama would not be inaugurated. Are you unwilling to make that pompous statement again?

The default swaps need to be regulated, they can be used to "attack" the stock of any financial service company. The rating agencies need to be regulated, they used best "guess" estimates of the risk of the CMO and CDO. There is need for regulation and there is need for the SEC chairman as well as the Fed Chairman to regulate. I have no particular love of regulation but what Wall Street and the Banks proved is that they did not know how much leverage to use and we are going to have to tell them.

Personally I think that all of these huge institutions should be broken up so that no one would be too big to fail. Apparently companies need these large institutions and so my idea won't work. Since we are going to have to socialize losses we are going to have to socialize profits as well. For those who are purists and think that unfettered markets is the solution to everything, I agree that if all things were perfect that regulation would not be needed. The problem is that people are not perfect and a perfect system only works if all components are perfect.

Posted by: Gator-ron | December 2, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't Obama selecting more DEMOCRATS from States with Republican Governors? Take Sen. Boxer or Feinstein, PLEASE!!!

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse


Yes, Supreme Court Case #949.
Gore v Bush.

The Executive Branch elects the President.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 2, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

In this case, if Obama was disqualified, a “contingent election” would be held, with each State's delegation casting one vote for one of the top three remaining contenders (McCain, Nader and Barr). If the Electoral College makes Biden the Vice President-Elect, that could be a wrinkle too.

Not anticipating the development of a two-party system, the Framers believed that electors would cast votes for a large range of candidates from various States and that nearly every election would go to the House of Representatives for a final decision. However, in our history, only two Presidential elections have been decided in the House. In 1800, members of the same campaign ticket, Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr, received the same number of votes in the Electoral College. The House of Representatives eventually selected Thomas Jefferson, but the election inspired the 12th Amendment reforms. In 1824, no candidate among the three leading contenders -- Senator Andrew Jackson, Secretary of State John Quincy Adams, and Secretary of the Treasury William Crawford -- received a majority of electoral votes. Although Jackson won the most popular votes, the House selected John QUINCY Adams as the winner.

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse


Not at all -- even though I did vote for Bush in 2000, I thought that election should have been decided by the House of Representatives -- next canard?

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse


You really like it when the Supreme Court picks your president don't you?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | December 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

gator ron
remember, Paulson said it himself...(9-19-08 early morning press conference)
about 6 to 7 years this financial "debacle" began.
Because of regulatory requirements not followed. (along with consumers being gullible enough to believe)
Seven years of regulatory requirements not being followed by the financial industry.
That is breaking law and USCODE.
And nothing in HB 1424, the BailOut bill, deals with the fact that crimes have been committed.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 2, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

cpatwork and dcwun:

I am well aware that he was elected. If my own Governor had been elected, I would be making the same argument. It's nothing personal. Only "natural born" citizens can legally serve as President of the United States. Only his mother needed to hide that fact. So, why would that necessarily be "conspiracy theory" stuff?

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

As for the photo You're right edwcorey...something is amiss...Obama is what????6'3" or thereabouts? I bet Arnold asked Obama to hold a sec while he talked with the cameraman

Posted by: Deana1 | December 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

JakeD ... News Flash! Barack Obama has been elected to be the 44th President of the United States of America! The elections are over! John McCain has conceded! The Obamas are coming to the White House! Bush is gone (yippee!!)

I don't know how else to put this to you. Time to move on and get a life beyond conspiracy theories.

Posted by: cpatwork | December 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey edwcorey...
Arnold used to be 6'2" tall but since his back surgery he is more like 5'9".
I don't know the name of the surgery but his surgery involved removing two disks and then fusing the remaining disks.
As for Obama.. I see him bringing integrity to the White House.

Posted by: Deana1 | December 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

JakeD....You clearly have some deep rooted issues. The election is over and you need to move on. The conspiracy stuff is old and has no merit whatsoever.

Posted by: dcwun | December 2, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse


Yes, I could repeat (in fact, Obama is not even officially President-Elect), but I don't have the legal standing to sue. Alan Keyes DOES have standing.

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

The issue is not a market based economy or a government directed economy as conservatives would like to frame the issue. It was long ago settled that we and most of the rest of the world will have a market based economy. The question is at times of financial dislocation which was caused by free markets can we rely on markets to turn things around. Obama thinks the answer is both yes and no.

For the future there will need to be greater transparency which means that there will be regulation. In the financial service industry this will be needed long term because we now know that unregulated banks and other financial service companies do not know how to contain their greed, even when it is in their own best interest. This should cause the peak earning and the base earnings to not fluctuate so much. Hopefully it will mean over the long term that we will not have these bailouts. Don't bet on it though. After a decade or two of stability there will be a move to deregulate. This again will lead to another need for a bailout. The problem in this country is that the political center does not remain in control. This country will be better off if it denies political power to the Republicans until the party becomes more main stream.

The right has been very good in distorting the truth and the country has undertaken a course that is more conservative than the political equilibrium. I hope that Obama is successful in teaching the country that economic ideas have got to come from both sides. It will be more so from one side than the other, right now the left has to dominate. I hope that he is smart enough to recognize when it will be time to become more conservative. Right now there is a crisis to manage but we have an economic house that has to be put in order.

There is a legal process by which to get the information you want, Jake D. The court system is the route to get such information. Instead of your bilious nattering on this site, why don't you get active in the litigation about Obama's birth certificate. Could it be that you realize that all your communications are just blather?

Could you repeat your statement that Barack Obama will not be inaugurated on January 20,2009? Or have you accepted that this statement was just more of your idle nonsense?

I will make a statement about the future: The abortion rate in this country will be less in 2012 than it is in 2008.

Posted by: Gator-ron | December 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Maybe you confused Stallone and Arnold. Stallone is a shrimp coming in at a meager 5'7.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | December 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Arnold is not a shrimp, that is what separated him from the other Mr. Olympia contestants. He stood 6'2 where as the other contestants were regularly 5'8 and smaller.

Just a Fyi.....

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | December 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I wish WaPo would highlight, strike-through, or otherwise indicate what changes are made to a blog thread (for instance, the headline was changed from this morning).

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Who took the photo? Obama's fairly tall, and Schwazzeneegar's a shrimp. How did Arnold tower over the P-E?

Posted by: edwcorey | December 2, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

If any of these states, like california for example, want help from our tax payer dollars then they had better start taking a hard line on illegal immigration. I totally oppose bailing out Sanctuary States.

"California's addiction to 'cheap' illegal alien labor is bankrupting the state and posing enormous burdens on the state's shrinking middle class tax base," stated Dan Stein, President of FAIR. "Most Californians, who have seen their taxes increase while public services deteriorate, already know the impact that mass illegal immigration is having on their communities, but even they may be shocked when they learn just how much of a drain illegal immigration has become."

Posted by: drumsalot | December 2, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

does the term "fiscal irresponsibility" mean anything to these governors or Obama?

probably not.

i really enjoy watching Keynesian-lovers blame everything on the "free market" while lionizing their command/centralized Federal Reserve system. this is a priceless meltdown. but it's only priceless because i don't know what comes after trillion.

Posted by: millionea7 | December 2, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

scrivener50-could you elaborate since I don't have time to visit the website.
A documented case or such?

Personally, it is my belief that the USA Patriot Act, from the gate, stepped on the "civil liberties of citizens being violated".

I have such a documented case in Arizona that includes USA Patriot Act violation. AZ Dept. of Health Services, under the "guise" of external health contracts issued FROM said department TO local law enforcement.
Keyword...external contracts.

Undermining local law enforcement???????
Local law enforcement is/are undermining civil liberties because of the creation of the USA Patriot Act. One must find the link in the law, that is all.

A perfect example (albeit, not in my case) is the infamous Sheriff Joe Arapio of Maricopa County.
It's his planet and we just live here. And he makes sure he undermines every civil liberty to prove it.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 2, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse


The civil liberties of your citizens are being violated by "extrajudicial targeting" -- a fancy way of saying that a FEDERALLY-FUNDED VIGILANTE NETWORK is usurping local police powers and the judicial system and is committing domestic terrorism coast-to-coast.

It's happening on the streets of Washington, D.C., New York City, and in cities, towns and counties nationwide.

The FBI is aware of this, but has declined appeals by victims to refer this matter to the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice. Why?

Posted by: scrivener50 | December 2, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"a single courageous state may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory," experimenting with innovative solutions to its economic problems.

Make it Arizona please.
We lose a Governor again and all our work (6 years of it) may just be down the tubes when Sec. of State Brewer takes over.

Sure love Joe Biden don't ya.....
"used to be"........

I certainly hope the FEDS work better with the States in Barack's term. Truthfully, I am sick of the FEDS saying "leave it to the States to make their own laws". Some issues are universal and need to stay under federal law and code. Arizona is a prime example.
US Congress makes a federal law.
Arizona, as a State, "skirts" the federal law to make a loophole, in the form of State law and State code...seemingly bypassing federal law. This is why Arizona is known as the "scam state".
Resulting in...just a tad...the slightest bit of "confused" language in state law.....whereby.....
federal law is negated by state law.
So please Governors, do not negate federal law by making a state law to find a loophole or override it!!!!!
Getting sick of it!!!!!

I now return you to your regular blogging.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | December 2, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Does Gov Palin want to be seen with someone who "pals around with terrorists?"

Interestingly enough, Gov Linda Lingle of Hawaii will not be at the meeting in Philadelphia. She indicated she needed to address the current dire economic crisis facing Hawaii and that the annual meeting with the President in February will lend itself to a more frank discussion of the economy (

Posted by: ozzie12590 | December 2, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

at least Biden remembered that Obama is (unofficially) President-ELECT today.

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Obama ~ Stay away from Palin today. Don't give her a photo opp so she write off her hobnobbing in Georgia with a draft-dodging senator. She will view that photo opp as another of those "doors" she's going to push through. Cold-shoulder her if necessary. No one will think less of you if you ignore that fruitcake in order to focus on governors with a brain.

Posted by: bweyand1 | December 2, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"President-elect Barack Obama will meet privately this morning with several of the nation's governors, seeking input on how best to stimulate the economy while helping them deal with the budget crises that are expected to confront their states."

Hopefully he will seek advice from non-democrats. Solution to this problem should come from all Americans, not just the ones who happen to be members of a particular party.

Posted by: ahashburn | December 2, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

sorry but Constitution requires "natural born" citizenship.

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Oh JakeD, give it up man. The election is over. Obama won and he'll be president for the next eight years. I bet you'll enjoy your place on this Earth more if you just chill out and stop all of these conspiracy theories. Maybe you watched too much X-Files or something but let it go.

Posted by: ovwong | December 2, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Will Hawaii's Governor be there? Maybe they can discuss the sealed (long form) birth certificate that Obama refuses to release?

Posted by: JakeD | December 2, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

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