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Obama Meets with Republicans on the Hill

By Michael D. Shear
President Obama declared himself optimistic after meeting with Republican House leaders Tuesday afternoon and called for a suspension of partisan politics as he and lawmakers try to craft a rescue of the nation's economy.

Speaking to reporters before heading into a similar meeting with Senate Republicans, Obama called the House meeting "constructive."

"The American people expect action," he said. "They want us to put together a recovery package that puts people back to work, that creates investments that assure our long-term energy independence, an effective health care system, an education system that works; they want our infrastructure rebuilt, and they want it done wisely, so that we're not wasting taxpayer money."

Obama is facing an increasingly resistant Republican Party, whose leaders are declaring their opposition to what they consider excessive spending and too few tax cuts in the legislation drafted by Democratic lawmakers.

"But let no one be mistaken that this bill is the result of bipartisan negotiations. While Republicans were courteously consulted at the member and staff level, we were never at the negotiating table," Sen. Charles Grassley said in a statement earlier in the day.

Grassley called the legislation "a deal made between the Democratic Leadership and the Obama administration. No Republican ideas need apply."

Obama's trip to Capitol Hill was rare for a sitting president, especially given his decision to meet only with the opposition. He met with Democratic lawmakers earlier this month.

In his comments, Obama said he is "absolutely confident" that the country can find ways to solve the country's economic woes. But he said "the key right now is to make sure that we keep politics to a minimum."

"I don't expect a hundred percent agreement from my Republican colleagues," he said, "but I do hope that we can all put politics aside and do the American people's business right now."

The president departed the Capitol after meeting with the senators.

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If you look at Boehner's qualifications for his job, they don't seem to be that much better than Palin's. A bachelor's in business from a relatively unknown college is less than ideal for the influential position he holds.
The republicans place too much value on maintaining the status quo for their business leaders, who's collective education seems to lack an appreciation for science, history and sociology. Their focus is too narrow and this problem has spilled over into the general population to a unhealthy degree. Their solutions are too simple, and not only do they not work, they make everything much worse for those who do.

Posted by: rooster54 | January 28, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Boehner still can't explain why tax cuts for the rich under Bush (supposedly to create jobs) has led us to 8+ percent unemployment. Or why more tax cuts for corporate business will end layoffs or raise wages when profits are down 30%.

He also doesn't explain how you can cut taxes on 250,000 more people with no income.

The only thing that will erase debt is more employment and higher wages.

An Obama tax cut for working families is at best a temporary measure to artificially raise wages. But it's better than standing pat on a broken economy.

Until working people earn more taxable income the treasury will spend more than it takes in. Notice I didn't say more taxes, I said more taxable income.

Use the executive power of the Federal Government to hire the private sector to employ workers at good wages on projects to improve our economic infrastructure.

I'm pretty sure you can count on the American worker to refuse to stay broke.

We didn't screw this up, Boehner. And we don't need you to lecture us on spending.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | January 28, 2009 12:55 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: mudbone | January 27, 2009 8:16 PM
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I still think the best opening for Obama's inaugural address would have been, "First, to Misters George Bush and Dick Cheney -

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to legal counsel and to have an attorney present during questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney one will be provided to you by the state at no charge.

Do you understand these rights as I've explained them to you?"

Posted by: treetopflyer | January 27, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA FOR LIFE

Posted by: OBAMA4 | January 27, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Yes, it does seem as if the Republican blocks have guzzled Koolaid. The "small business/ tax cut" mantras they recite are the same ones that provided cover for Bush's disastrous budgets.

The result of those eight years? The distribution of wealth in this country reverted to where it was virtually a century ago. The only people who got rich were the top 1% of earners, and the middle class has shrunk drastically. Politics 101 tells us that these sorts of economic trends are disastrous to economies, much less to democracies.

Until these True Believers begin to examine their shibboleths -- maybe the definition of small business, maybe their ideas of economic growth -- they will continue to live in W's dream world. They can repeat these empty words as long as they'd like; that won't even give them words for the real problems that are draining our economy.

Posted by: thmas | January 27, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Cyros-
Rich people taking all the profit from our labor and acting like the world still owes them a living isn't being responsible. Those self-righteous leeches have gotten away with accusing the wrong people of laziness for too long.

Posted by: rooster54 | January 27, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

'OUR WHITE HOUSE' well OBAMA is here to stay...THIS IS OUR TIME...you can cry till your white faces turn blue...there is little you can do...you are under his authority..he is your boss...WE HAVE CONQURED THE WHITE MAN...and Napolitano is closing the Canadian border so you dont have any way of escape...this is now the UNITED STATES OF AFRICA

Posted by: OBAMA4 | January 27, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

JUST BECAUSE YOU CAME HERE FIRST DOESNT MAKE YOU MORE A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N....Red indians and blacks own this land

Posted by: OBAMA4 | January 27, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA PRESIDENT FOR LIFE,,,,NO MORE ELECTIONS...HIS DAUGHTERS WILL TAKE OVER

Posted by: OBAMA4 | January 27, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

'OUR WHITE HOUSE' well OBAMA is here to stay...THIS IS OUR TIME...you can cry till your white faces turn blue...there is little you can do...you are under his authority..he is your boss...WE HAVE CONQURED THE WHITE MAN...and Napolitano is closing the Canadian border so you dont have any way of escape...this is now the UNITED STATES OF AFRICA

Posted by: OBAMA4 | January 27, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the tax cut is that it may not provide the boost we need.

We are coming off a run where we way outspent our means. The spending can bounce back a little with the tax cut, but based on consumer sentiment, nobody's ready to unleash on a wild spending spree.

Infrastructure spending may prove better overall. We desperately need many repaired roads, ports, bridges, etc.

But infrastructure can mean wind turbines, current turbines, solar plants. It can mean laying down wifi internet nationwide. It can mean repairing old theaters and parks. It can mean more mass transit, high speed rail, green buildings.

Plasma tvs, Wii's, and furniture are nice, but it doesn't put us on the same footing economically (alot of consumer stuff is made overseas). It's more a base of sand. And if we hit another downturn, then what? More tax breaks? Sooner or later we'll have no taxes to cut.

Posted by: camasca | January 27, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Dottydo-
Sports Bars?....."bread and circuses".
That's why the republicans get away with fleecing sheep like you. Have you every seen "Idiocracy"?

Posted by: rooster54"
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Yeah idiocracy is what you get with democratic socialism and the country run by lawyers. Popping out kids gives you the "right" to everything over those who are responsible. You picked a horrible example.

Posted by: Cryos | January 27, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Did today's meeting add more than 5 GOP votes for the stimulus? If it is more, I'd be extremely shocked.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | January 27, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Dottydo-
Sports Bars?....."bread and circuses".
That's why the republicans get away with fleecing sheep like you. Have you every seen "Idiocracy"?

Posted by: rooster54 | January 27, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

RE:"Unfortunately those of you liberal folks, you are going to be unpleasantly surprised when your world falls apart after this unqualified, single opinion light weight blows this country to oblivion."
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Blow the county oblivion?

LOL. Bush, the 'C' student who went to Yale because of his daddy and treats English like a foreign language, has already beaten him to it.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | January 27, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a guest in the People's house.

He should accept that he has no power with us.

We don't grant Congress a place to live like the President. They are supposed to listen to us, argue and fight, and get back with us.

Presidents aren't supposed to have any opinion, but instead get a pulse for how we feel.

Obama is a terrible President, because he is a drama guest staying in "our" Whitehouse.

Best he is quiet, and stop upsetting the Staff that are there at the pleasure of the People, not Obama.


When he told the keepers of the White house they were on a pay freeze...he insulted the people.

They don't work for the latest idiot through the door, they work for us in the People's house.


Did you know that private people are taking up a collection to cover the idiocy of this last guy, and his ragamuffins through the door, who thinks he is some sort of owner or king there?

People of the United States will bonus the staff, since we are their employer.

Best the guest keep to himself. TSK TSK TSK

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

mudbone,
Any President is the current idiot Americans like to hate.

We like the old ones just fine.

We hate the new one with complete contempt.
It is as old as American apple pie.

The campaigning is over. If the President opens his mouth he loses with the masses.

Obama opened his mouth...the rest is history.

Silence from the Whitehouse is what we all like.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

monk4hall,
Awe heck you witches monkey from OZ make the bill for 6t if you want. There now you can say you won bigger ok?

American just won't pay a dime, so you win nothing.

Tea in the Harbor is an American phrase.

Look it up.

Do you know how we got out of Vietnam?
Enmasse refusal to comply.

Americans have been like that since the day this Country was born.


Same old same old. Everyone is from somewhere else, but they have to be American to understand the mindset.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Please, please, stop trying to appease the Republicans. They don't matter. They are irrelevant. They don't know what they're doing when it comes to the economy. They lost the election in a big way. Americans don't trust them to fix the economy, so why keep trying to get their approval???? They are the ones who got us into this mess with their absurd economic policies, so why would anyone want their input? Pass the stimulus package President Obama has proposed and move forward. It's that simple. We don't need no stinkin Republicans. Obama needs to stop trying to play nice. It won't get him anywhere with the Republican thugs.

Posted by: ggwalt | January 27, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

JohnQuimby,

These foreigners just fail to understand the basic American.

HA!

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse


Please. The republicans have amply demonstrated where their best thinking leads -- recession, depression, ruin.

Earth to republicans: democrats won -- the house, the senate, the presidency.

so, um, thanks for the input, but no thanks.

Posted by: monk4hall | January 27, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

benjcrawley,

Obama has got Americans keeping money in the matresses and people helping each other with loans.
Proof? Look at the housing market without Bank help.

Obama has become moot, and suffers from power mania.

What has he accomplished? The end of credit?
No not at all. Just the end of use of anyone who got a bailout by the average Joe.

Employees will still work, but under the table employers are now plentiful, and so are the workers who will sit at the same desk invisible.

If the President and Congress wanted to empower a thief nominee so badly, the American people will simply take the cue.

No one is going to pay taxes for a bailout, so why try for one.

The new illegal under the table is the average American now.

Go to a sportsbar, drink a beer and be an American with your money in a matress.
Live a good life and wait for these vultures to clear for better government.

It is the American way.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I agree entirely with John Boehner. The budget should generally be balanced, a broad range of tax cuts is good for the economy, and many of these programs should be funded at the state level instead of the federal level if people want them.

Unfortunately, Mr. Boehner and Co. forgot those basic rules from 2001 through 2006. the error was particularly egregious from 2003 through 2006 when the economy was doing well and did not need a dditional federal spending. Because of Mr. Boehner and Co.'s fiscal blunders, a bill likely this has become necessary.

Despite massive tax cuts for the wealthy, very little job growth occurred during the Bush Adminstration. It looks like it is time to try something different. If the Republicans want to portray themselves as mere obstructionists, they can expecte more election losses in 2010.

Posted by: raydh | January 27, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

dottydo,

I'll have whatever you're drinking and a plate of hot wings.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | January 27, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

No one is going to pay their federal taxes on any more bailouts.

Dems or Republicans in office today are the enemy on the Federal level.

The Country run by the people is just that.

Dems wanted a tax evader nominee in, and now Americans are going to refuse to pay....because he didn't.

What did everyone expect?

Americans are a little crazy, and care little who thinks they are Boss.

If Congress and Obama want Americas to respect them, they should have listened on the 700b.

The people say no.

Who gives a hoot what they are drama kings and Queens about in a not credible Hill and Whitehouse?

Tampa Bay is in
Bailouts are out.

Money is flowing and life is good again.

Illegals got paid under the table, but they are gone now and the jobs and methods are in the mix.

WAKE UP!!!!

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

There is no solution but bullet and rope,,sameold same old!

Posted by: mudbone | January 27, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Any tax cut that benefits a wealthy family should be offset (in ratio of net worths) by a tax increase on an identifiable non-wealthy family. That way the Joneses can be seen to be helping out the Vanderbilts. How small a government do ideologue Republicans want? Surely they don't want to downsize military might. Robbing wealthy communities of their police forces or Homeland Security (so as to guarantee continued good health of Der Fatherland) might not be popular. Oil depletion allowances and farm subsidies might could be missed. As for taxes, Republicans believe wealthy people should pay none. Only the "little people" should pay taxes. The French had a revolution about noblesse oblige and "let them eat cake" philosophy. Republicans should be reminded that We The People voted many of them OUT ... and for good reason. They are having a hissy fit because they don't wield the power they once did. Where are Republicans in Congress who behave in a statesman-like manner?

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | January 27, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I agree with JohnQuimby - President Obama is showing up the GOP "leadership" for what it is - power hungry zealots of a failed economic ideology.

Boehner will get it sooner or later.

Keep saying "tax cuts" Boehner (boner?) you're alienating people in droves.

Posted by: benjcrawley | January 27, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

TOMHERE,
It looks like your ACORN people are the only ones paying any attention to polls.

Real America is watching football and out to dinner....no one is buying the doom and gloom lies anymore, they are bored with it.

Check housing sales....doesn't look gloomy to me.

Sportsbars are in and Obama drama is out.
HE OVERUSED IT AND IS DROLL.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

2010 is not that far away, and assuming for the sake of argument that the economy improves by early 2010 (which it most certainly will unless pigs begin to fly), those Republicans who voted against the stimulus package will find themselves with not a dime of the $900 billion to bring home. Which means that they'll have to defend their vote to their constituents, which in most instances will translate to instant death at the polls. So, its in Republicans' self interest to vote for the stimulus package. If they start to whine about not enough tax cuts, Obama can point to the $300 billion in tax cuts his plan maintains. If they continue to whine, well, all Obama has to do is bring up the economic ruin of the past 8 years associated with the GOP and their sole mantra of endless tax cuts.

Of course, Obama doesn't need to go to the Republicans at all. There are enough votes for the stimulus package in the House and the Senate for this thing to pass. When Bush won in 2000 and 2004 by the slimmest of electoral and absolute vote margins respectively, he marched onto the political stage and crudely announced that he had a mandate. In contrast, Obama has a super mandate. He won by over 100 electoral votes, and by nearly 6% of the total vote. The Republicans should thank their stars that they're even being courted.

Posted by: jaysit | January 27, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Only paranoid idiots are turning against Obama.

Posted by: rooster54 | January 27, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Ddottydo wrote:
Unlike like where you might be from, Americans don't hang the previous President,,

Yeah i'm hoping for a first. If not the rope a bullet through the head will do!!
Perferably by a crazed Iraqi Texan!!

Posted by: mudbone | January 27, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Roism007,
The Republicans and Dems were told No No No on the last 700b and they didn't listen.

Republicans are at least smart enough to know they might get recalled.

Democrats are facing the same in their home States but are lost in the last scene of scarface and haven't noticed they are not being applauded anymore.

OOOOps recall petitions are everywhere on the Senators Dem and Republican.

Use the local Credit Union in your area....these loan sharking banks are over.

A foreign entity tin cup to an American is just asking for trouble, these days.


The people's business today is to remove their current leadership in Congress for placing a crime figure nominee into position.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the American people are turning against Obama in unprecedented numbers.
Last I heard it was 12 %.
Damn, what happened to the 25-something percent who thought W did a good job.
You knuckle-draggers just keep denying reality.
If it were up to me you'd all be exported to Alaska, which would be made a sovereign nation and you'd never be allowed to return.

Posted by: TOMHERE | January 27, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Republicans think the world owes them a living.

Posted by: rooster54 | January 27, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama should use the same standard towards tax cuts as he would use against spending or earmarks:
1. Any tax cut should have a job increase estimate associated with it;
2. Any targeted tax cut should be treated as an earmark--the member introducing it should identify any constituent that lobbied to benefit from it--a lot of tax cuts are just earmarks in that they are targeted to one or two firms or constituents.
3. Any tax cut recipient must demonstrate that they will increase employment in the US, and not use the tax cut to expand abroad.

Posted by: BillS1 | January 27, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

mudbone,

Unlike where you might be from, Americans don't hang the previous President.

We are democracy where people take care of each other and themselves inspite of the latest idiots we elect.


Have you been reading around?

I hear a mantra of recall on all the Senators over the last 700b.

The people said no.

After the interview with Arab press, I am hearing and reading Impeach Obama!!!!!!


Do try to keep up with the current views of "the People".

Obama doesn't understand that his campaign is over. He cannot win a thing, so he should shut up. People are saying NO.

Recall and vote in only under 35 Senators is the new plan.

Refusal to bailout will come in refusal to pay for it. What happens if all the people follow the lead of the new appointee crime monster?

He hasa greater following for his plan than Obama and Congress has.

The tea is being pitched into the Harbor mudbone. You know you want that more than this other crap.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

The only one of these swine I would recommend that Obama listen to is Tom Coburn. He has always been consistent about cutting spending. The remainder were fine with it until January 2007 when they suddenly weren't the ones deciding what money would be spent on. It's one thing to be a fair weather sports fan. It's quite another to be a fair weather congressman.

Posted by: mbmclaughlin | January 27, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe the logic Obama is using here.....let me tell him a story that I learned growing up.....two monks were making there way back to the temple when it started to rain. They decided to stop and rest for a while in a cowshed till the rain stopped. After the rain got done they started back on there path to the temple.

On the way they came across a stream caused by flash flooding. On the other side, they saw a beautiful village bella in her sunday best dress trying to cross over the stream but not sure how to do so without getting her sunday best dress dirty.

See her pathetic situation, one of the monks decided to pick her up and carry her over to the other side without any hesitation. The other monk got furious on seeing his fellow monk do the good deed. They did not speak a word until they arrived at the temple.

After they had there dinner, the monk who got furious earlier, spoke up with harsh words

Monk 1 - How dare you help that woman?

Monk 2 - huh!

Monk 1 How dare you help that woman knowing very well its against our religion to touch women!...and you carried her?

Monk 2 - I left that woman behind, why are you still carrying her with you?

This is what the problem with the Repussican is...they are bitter they lost and like attention defict disorder patient, they are being childish with their attitude and behavior when the American people need help without any prejudice or pride involved. In my believe what Obama is trying to do is stimulate the economy better then Bush who gave.....gave people 350 billion dollars to his buddies on wall street by scaring the American people back in Oct 2008 that if we did not ...it will get worse and guess what it was another lie from him and the icing on the cake for his administration which is full of lies.

Obama will get what he wants...but he has to remember..you just cannot please the repussican terrorist by giving into their demands and childish behavior...you tried and if they dont want to get on the bus...they make a provision in the bailout package that those who vote No will not get a single dime from this package

Let see how senators and members of the house miss the bus then...be it either repussicans or democrats

Posted by: Roism007 | January 27, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately those of you liberal folks, you are going to be unpleasantly surprised when your world falls apart after this unqualified, single opinion light weight blows this country to oblivion. And it isn't going to take long. The European press is already calling him for what he is - lightweight fluff...............Russian and Iran must be laughing all the way to Osama's bank.

Posted by: sandynh | January 27, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

RE:"Hanoi Jane asks the Candy Man point blank why all his screw ups, everywhere - mentions she will advise Fidel regarding this.

Still anxious that Fidel will recind his invitation to his castle -

Candy Man appeals to Barney Sweetthang.

Puts muslim turban back on. Checks mirror."
============================
Wow. An entire post of non sequiturs.

What can this possibly mean?

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | January 27, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

HEY!!!!

While you were caught in the daze.....

Americans have decided to go with small localized banking that is under State regulators.

The housing market is being funded by Americans pulling their money out of Ira's and acting as banks in their areas.

They are buying the homes outright, and BOYCOTTING the lies of the Credit score

for Americans to buy the houses from them at better interest rates than big banks.

Bail all you want Obama, American's are not doing business with these banks any more by acting as loan sharks.

NO ONE IS BUYING THE RUSE ANYMORE.

NO MORE MONEY FOR YOU ...says the American people who are busy spending it themselves.

They are not viable or credible institutions.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

dottydo-
If you don't grow your own food, build your on house, build your own car, drill and refine your own fuel, etc. then you must need other people just like the rest of us. We all contribute something, except the entitled rich who just take it all and try to preach nonsense to people like you who actually are stupid enough to fall for it.

Posted by: rooster54 | January 27, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: mudbone | January 27, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

"JohnQuimby, how very patriotic of you. "I hope he fails" is what Limbaugh said. So he and his listeners think the country should fail. Don't you care about America?"

OK, try to keep up.

There is a difference between GOP leadership and the rank and file.

The deal here is that Grassley, Boehner and McConnel are being told by the President that he will negotiate directly with their members in the House and the Senate...and the leadership doesn't like it.

Meanwhile, Rush thinks that the right wing has gone soft and anyone who will talk to Obama should be ex-communicated from the party. He'll fight to the end in the bunker of his shattered reich.

The party is obviously brain dead. Let it slip off into the political afterlife. And let's let Rush lead the way.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | January 27, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid Obama, by being so divisive in his first week, is losing his opportunity. It's the economy, stupid, and all folks see is triumphalist politics as usual. This is the month that hundreds of thousands of small business owners decide to stay and fight or fold. And they don't see anything but bs and plans to distribute $750 million in condoms coming out of those in control.

Posted by: georgejones5 | January 27, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans will continue to play their game of give the rich tax cuts and then we'll approve anything you want. The rich
only care about themselves and the Republicans only represent the minority rich class in this country. The Republicans could care less about anyone else other than themselves. They will filibuster till the end of time to get their way. They are incapable of thinking of the common good for the country called America.

Posted by: blakesouthwood | January 27, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse


These Republicans think they're unhappy now. Wait until the next Senate race when they lose a few more seats trying to stall attempts to fix what they broke in the first place. Bill Clinton with Monica was better than this stuff.

Posted by: amercrutio100 | January 27, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Barack has had a week now. He's closed Gitmo, and he's said "NO MORE GOVERNMENT LOBBYING by ex-government people. Those are big. Course the "BUSH IN HIDING GOVERNMENT" wil fight untill "BUSH IS HANGED IN PUBLIC!!

Posted by: mudbone | January 27, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

AverageJane,
The whole Republican Party and Democrat party thing is soooooo over.

The people vs. the Federal Government idiots as a whole is the new game in town.


The honeymoon is over for Obama.

Congress lost it's power when they empowered Bush on the war and the idiots robbery of 700b.

Both Democrats and Republicans just want to know if a drop of water hits these people will they melt?

The evil Feds vs. the people

WAKE UP!!!!!!!

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama is smart to listen to the Republicans. Grassley, Cornyn and Bohner won't get their ideas done, but the Lugar, Richards and Snowe ideas maybe.
Posted by: jameschirico
________________________________
What's the difference Jameschirico, same as the difference between a wet rock and a slippery rock. Look, you can't bargain with rocks pal!

Posted by: mudbone | January 27, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

jameschirico,
Obama is losing the American people, who believe all the people in Congress SUCK after the last bailout lie.


Americans will pay their State taxes, but
what if they Boycott the whole Federal
scene in disgust?

T^he tea is heading for the harbor on this whole taxation without we the people having a say so.

Power is only power if we care about it.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

After listening to the BS spewed today by Republicans, you'd have thought that they had won the election. Here's something they need to learn, bipartisan doesn't mean 50/50. Obama isn't a fool, he left office last week.

Posted by: AverageJane | January 27, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse


Hanoi Jane asks the Candy Man point blank why all his screw ups, everywhere - mentions she will advise Fidel regarding this.

Still anxious that Fidel will recind his invitation to his castle -

Candy Man appeals to Barney Sweetthang.

Puts muslim turban back on. Checks mirror.

Posted by: webber7 | January 27, 2009 7:37 PM


Beaming back from the image is a smile,

hmmm not good enough, practing again,

Candy man is very pleased.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama is smart to listen to the Republicans. Grassley, Cornyn and Bohner won't get their ideas done, but the Lugar, Richards and Snowe ideas maybe.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 27, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

rooster54,
Why does anyone need to help you or me?

We are fine.

Instead of volunteering at soup lines, go
pick up a back tax bill in your
neighborhood. You help some poor schmuck who invested in these International Bank loan sharks and lost his money to the Middle East.
You get a great % of interest and you are the bank to that homeowner.

Buy only American, and go eat at a small American owned restaurant tonight.

Act and quit reacting to lies.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

People with money are stepping up to fund houses for people without money.
It is FSBO sweeping the Nation.
Americans are different than Kenyans, we hear there is a problem and we fix it ourselves.

Too late Obama the place is on the mend and the option to spend money on our towns and neighborhoods is beating out your bank plan.


This istaxation without representation and no one wants the tea.

Go home and see your kids. Leave Americans alone for a week, we are just not that into you anymore.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

We have eight years of overwhelming evidence that the neocon ideology doesn't work for Americans who do.

Anyone who is so backwards as to still be loyal to an ideology that has no loyalty to him/her needs to ask for their tuition money back.

Posted by: rooster54 | January 27, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

So after rushing to enter a war that has cost us a trillion dollars and rushing to give trillions of dollars to the banks that did nothing, we are now going to rush to borrow another trillion dollars to spend at a time when this year's entire GDP is already owed to a private bank and foreign countries.

We are not going to fix this problem by borrowing more money. Debt has to be eliminated before we get better. What we are going to do is sell our freedom for that $300 check you're going to get in the mail.

http://ewebsmith.com/Finance/economicproblem.html

Posted by: websmith1 | January 27, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Hanoi Jane asks the Candy Man point blank why all his screw ups, everywhere - mentions she will advise Fidel regarding this.

Still anxious that Fidel will recind his invitation to his castle -

Candy Man appeals to Barney Sweetthang.

Puts muslim turban back on. Checks mirror.

Posted by: webber7 | January 27, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Boring stuff trying to sell Americans on this over and over fun run on my wallet.

MC SAME Obama, no one wants to fund your Acorn crap and call it an emergency.
Go away.


We won't pay for Federal banks without any regulation anymore.

Housing is recovering all by itself. sales are up across the Nation.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

RE"Grassley called the legislation "a deal made between the Democratic Leadership and the Obama administration. No Republican ideas need apply."
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As I understand a 'deal', there is a complete piece of legislation ready to be voted on and the two sides are far from that point.

It's still in negotiation, despite Grassley's contention. Oh, and by the way, not only were Democrats not consulted in Bush budgets and policy matters for eight years, they were considered un-American to boot.

Nice try, Grassley. Tell your story walking.

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | January 27, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Tax cuts and rebates evaporate as soon as they are spent. Spending for purposes such as infrastructure creates benefits that last generations.
Posted by: StanKlein | January 27, 2009 4:06 PM
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Look StanKlein,,common sense ain't worth doo-droppings these days. We are living in the age where "YOU AIN"T NOBODY TILL SOMEBODY CELL PHONES YOU". You either understand the deeper signifigance of "AMERICAN IDOL" or you don't!
Personally, old Mudbone "YO NO COMPRENDE"!

Posted by: mudbone | January 27, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Can someone tell Obama that we don't need this 825b bail out, because we are not broken by the International banks?

We are all ready for football, (an American sport), and we do not have time to be broke right now, so our money can get offed to the Middle East in more lies.

Can he please take this up at a later date when we are not so busy?
Americans are busy this week. We have parties and sports bar plans, flights to catch, memorablia to buy, and fun to have.

Maybe he can just visit with Arab buds and jaw about the next threat.....yawn. We are about emergencied out. One whole week of big news from the White house is getting very dry and droll.

I gues we are just not that into you now.

Thank you.

Posted by: dottydo | January 27, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

partisanship is when one party writes a bill with no participation of the other party and the party that wrote the bill wants the other party to vote for it. This is true for either party. Why cannot the house and senate be bipartisan, get together on a bill and vote on it. It's all about power which is going to destroy this country. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Posted by: dy19spider57 | January 27, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Well as far as I'm concerned the approach used the last eight years has been a winner! A little Torture here,,a little Tax Cut there, pretty soon you have NAZIS!

Look,,this bunch is out Barack! You tried talking,, now try hanging Cheney, Bush, Gonzalez! We are behind you man,,and watching!

Posted by: mudbone | January 27, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Tax cuts only work when there's income to tax. With more people getting laid off, fewer people would receive tax cuts.


Posted by: UnPatriotic | January 27, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

I decided to vote against McCain and all his Republican cohorts, and I am against everything they stand for! All they did was follow their incompetent leader for eight years, and now expect to ruin Barak! I say forget about them and let's chart our own future. Increase the Infrastructure portion and eliminate tax breaks! Listen to our own Democratic leaders! This is a rare opportunity for Democrats. Let's not waste it.

Posted by: jykmoy | January 27, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse


The Candy Man seeking even more votes now orders a release of all future gitmo people - to bring to DC. Fidel

applauds and invites him to his biggest castle in Havana.

Meets with moslems to get more. Wears turban for admiring media photo op.

Posted by: webber7 | January 27, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Massive stimulus dollars in the past created this stressful, dangerous, damaging and expensive lifestyle we now have. We need real change.

We are going the wrong way. The goal in life is not employment; that brings bondage and expense. The goal in life is a garden paradise retirement lifestyle where we create a garden paradise with fresh food from trees, plants and animals around us. That solves world problems of pollution of air, land, water and food, global warming fears, energy crisis, war, poverty, immigration, disease and high health care costs, reoccurring financial crises, social security inadequacies and unemployment. It is fair, beautiful, inexpensive and sustainable through eternity. Children are a blessing and help in a garden paradise and they are well fed and cared for; we would not want to kill them.

See Obama prophecies at prophecies.org and turn him toward the garden paradise where we will not have to buy or sell and we will not have to war over resources or go into debt for unnecessary things

Posted by: MarieDevine | January 27, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Since the Repubs leaders are determined to undermine the President's goal for unity, and America's restoration, the President should not allow them to hender his plans. It is apparent that they rather see the country in futher ruins than follow an "outsider" on a path to restoration. They have no clue on how to restore the economy or how to facilitate middle-class America's prosprity. How can we listen to the group that bankrupt US, in world leardership, education, technology, intel, housing, basic safety & finance? I'd say let the vipers Repubs leaders go. I agree we should strip out some projects that are clearly non-stimulus- contreception? but keep unemployment benefits, etc. I for one am tired of all the low ball petty politics that halts governments progress for the benefit of the people. We NEED action to save this COUNTRY NOW! Repubs leaders should now respectfully support and follow the elected leader or else.

Posted by: Vonnie932 | January 27, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

The congress people that want to do other than bolster the economy need to be fired .Why can't so many smart people just look at really needs to be done and do it.
Our very congress is full of self serving dolts and until we replace these morons we will go nowhere fast.Reporters should make these people that want to slip golf courses and such in the lime light so all can see the waste that they think is in the best interest of the country.

Posted by: jeffybear | January 27, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory?

The Democrats don't need bipartisan support for this bill, the Republicans said so themselves.

We don't need to pay billions of dollars in tax breaks for the wealthy, again, just to appease the Republicans, who will only spit in the Democrats' faces the day after the bill is passed, if not sooner.

Obama, Rush said he wants you to fail. Every time you talk to the Republicans or try to appease them, you fail. So today, you failed.

Posted by: kevinschmidt | January 27, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama is already better than Bush could ever hope to be.

Whenever a Republitard cries like a baby, an angel gets it's wings.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | January 27, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

After all the money the late Republican Majority spent giving almost every industry huge tax breaks, huge subsidies in spite of record profits, and deregulation out the wazoo they have got to be kidding in taking issue with from my humble perspective seems to be a well thought out stimulus. The promise of trickle down economics never materialized. Workers did not earn more, they have been losing real income for the past eight years. Case in point, for over a decade the Republicans blocked raising the minimum wage. Republicans consoled poor, poor businesses whenever they said providing medical coverage was too much of a burden, they would not be profitable. As if businesses would exist without employees. Further, I did not see any Republicans stopping all the fare thee well severance packages being traded among the highest corporate leaders of the land. How many people could have been saved if those gigantic and totally undeserved dollars had been spent on the employees and their loved ones.

Republicans believe that helping out your fellow man with food or medical care is socialism (in Republican speak the poor are undeserving), yet they have no problem with tax breaks for the rich, deregulation which is at the very core of the Wall Street debacle, and bailouts of friendly Wall Street firms but not Lehman?

They say you can tell a lot about a person (or in this case Party) by who they protect or champion. Republicans claim the high moral ground under the flag of fighting gay marriage and abortion. To that high moral ground millions voted to continue the Republican direction of supporting a war that should have never been started with a death toll in the tens of thousands if not hundreds or thousands, the legalized suspension of hundreds of thousands of impregnated eggs in fertility clinics many just tossed in the garbage after the need or expiration passes. To continue to preach abstinence even though it has never stopped unintended pregnancies while exposing those who did not abstain to all sorts of ramifications, shame, unintended pregnancy, insufficient medical care, disease, death.

So how is it that those allegedly taking the moral high ground would turn to their fellow say you are not worthy of excellent health care because you do not make enough, you do not deserve a fair wage because the employer or the stock holders would not make enough, you do not deserve a pension that you invested in, if that pension can only be protected by regulation that businesses would claim as interference.

Bottom line, if the Republican Party disappeared until we can get the country back on its feet and Americans back to work that would be just fine with me.

The fact that Republicans still feel that businesses are getting the short end of the stick is simply mind blowing. What about all of Americans paying the alternative tax?

Posted by: garryh | January 27, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

The Candy Man - working on his image after all his screw ups reminds everyone that millions on welfare depend on you. muuuuahhahaha

Posted by: webber7 | January 27, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

The people don't want a tax cut vs a good job with benefits. Printing money does not work unless there is something to show for it, like WWII, interstate highways, dams, etc. I have the solution for banks tightening credit, don't bail them out, buy them out. Purchase their stock with the money with full voting rights and we can dictate how they operate. Don't loan the auto industry money, buy them out and retool the dinosaur factories, albeit UAW workers there will have to temporarily be laid off (2 years to retool). Lets the workers at these institutions buy back the companies they work for from the government.

Posted by: jameschirico | January 27, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

By now it's pretty safe to say that the stupidity of the American people can be measured by the number of Republicans in Congress.

Posted by: treetopflyer | January 27, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to see how fast Obama wants to pay back ACORN. As Roger Daltry said: Meet the new boss - same as the old boss.
Two free-spending imbeciles.

Posted by: birvin9999 | January 27, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

For those complaining about Obamas plan i have a question for you?

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN DUBYA WAS HANDING OUT MONEY TO HIS CRONIES FASTER THAN THEY COULD PRINT IT?

If you havent complained about the bad dealings of the Bush presidency then how can you complain about someone trying to clean up the mess our country is in?

Bunch of sour grapes.....

Posted by: rharring | January 27, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

TOO IMPORTANT TO BE MIS-LED, THIS TIME

Boehner/Grassley are being extremely dis-ingenuous in cherry-picking DEM issues like contraception/ACORN... which totals 1% of the whole bill as the reason slam the whole thing. Let's get the basics straight --

Government Stimulus = borrowed money that gets spent in the economy, that otherwise would not be spent
Great stimulus = borrowed money that gets spent over and over again - (multiplier effect)

In a shrinking economy, tax cuts are a poor stimulus because they are likely to be saved by people and businesses loosing their jobs and revenue respectively. It is a government give-away regardless of whether it goes to a few businesses or a few people. (In a growing economy, Tax cuts ARE stimulative - so we should delay most tax cuts till the economy starts growing again)

Contraceptives - morally offensive to some - are great stimulus because the same money gets spent by women, then again by retailers and again by drug companies.

MUCH BETTER THAN contraceptives are expenditures on Infrastructure, eduction, healthcare and energy because they not only multiply spending right here in America, they create permanent new capacity for the middle-class to earn and spend. They also contain several backlogs of demand that will get spending happening quickly:
- 45 million uninsured that would ALSO get the healthcare industry growing again
- 10 year shortage of teachers that would ALSO get kids get better educated
- 10 year backlog of school construction that would ALSO kids get better educated
- 5-10 year backlog of new broadband in rural areas AND America that would ALSO generate more commerce, education, entertainment
- 2-5 year backlog of wind/solar projects that would ALSO reduce our dependence on foreign oil

MOST of this money goes through small-medium size businesses creating jobs AND preventing government bureaucracy.

Posted by: YoungAtheart | January 27, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

TOO IMPORTANT TO BE MIS-LED, THIS TIME

Boehner/Grassley are being extremely dis-ingenuous in cherry-picking DEM issues like contraception/ACORN... which totals 1% of the whole bill as the reason slam the whole thing. Let's get the basics straight --

Government Stimulus = borrowed money that gets spent in the economy, that otherwise would not be spent
Great stimulus = borrowed money that gets spent over and over again - (multiplier effect)

In a shrinking economy, tax cuts are a poor stimulus because they are likely to be saved by people and businesses loosing their jobs and revenue respectively. It is a government give-away regardless of whether it goes to a few businesses or a few people. (In a growing economy, Tax cuts ARE stimulative - so we should delay most tax cuts till the economy starts growing again)

Contraceptives - morally offensive to some - are great stimulus because the same money gets spent by women, then again by retailers and again by drug companies.

MUCH BETTER THAN contraceptives are expenditures on Infrastructure, eduction, healthcare and energy because they not only multiply spending right here in America, they create permanent new capacity for the middle-class to earn and spend. They also contain several backlogs of demand that will get spending happening quickly:
- 45 million uninsured that would ALSO get the healthcare industry growing again
- 10 year shortage of teachers that would ALSO get kids get better educated
- 10 year backlog of school construction that would ALSO kids get better educated
- 5-10 year backlog of new broadband in rural areas AND America that would ALSO generate more commerce, education, entertainment
- 2-5 year backlog of wind/solar projects that would ALSO reduce our dependence on foreign oil

MOST of this money goes through small-medium size businesses creating jobs AND preventing government bureaucracy.

Posted by: YoungAtheart | January 27, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Let me preface this with, I'm an Indie.

My first problem is that Mr. Obama is still biting off more than he can chew, in spite of the advice of his staff (transition and permanent) not to overextend:

"The American people expect action," he said. "They want us to put together a recovery package that puts people back to work, that creates investments that assure our long-term energy independence, an effective health care system, an education system that works; they want our infrastructure rebuilt, and they want it done wisely, so that we're not wasting taxpayer money."

Mr. Obama, pick a fight here. Looking at the median, the people aren't that bright. You are basically promising the world with this statement; and many are either going to think you can make all of this happen (and be disappointed) or dismiss you entirely.

My second problem is with the sanitizing of the rhetoric to make it PC.

"I don't expect a hundred percent agreement from my Republican colleagues," he said, "but I do hope that we can all put politics aside and do the American people's business right now."

The first phrase is meaningless. It would still be true if he expected zero percent R agreement. Mr. Wilde popularized this language structure over a century ago.

Given that, the subtext of the next logical phrase might be interpreted as "but I do hope that we can all put opposition aside..." This leaves us with the important phrase: "...and do the American people's business right now."

That is where the core of my second problem lies. The American people's business doesn't derive from the single side of any argument. Find Mr. Clinton. (Check the closest good nudie bar, probably in Georgetown.) Talk with him about these things.

Simple rhetoric along with a complementary brow-beating of the opposition does nothing. Getting off of the Hill and talking to various CEOs and CFOs may help you get centered, to really address this.

Posted by: juggernautenterprises | January 27, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

"Welfare" was not invented by liberals in the 20th century, nor does it apply only to helping poor children and the infirm. Corporate welfare in the form of subsidies, infrastructure spending, and protective tariffs were all part of the "American System" forwarded by Henry CLay in the 18-teens. Corporate welfare to railways helped connect the rails, but of course giving too much money to big corporations also exposed the dangers of corporatism and led to the first regulatory agencies. (ICC) "Welfare" as conservatives like to think of it furst surfaced as hand outs to Civil War veterans, and then to their widows and children. It was a mianstay of republicon politics throughout the late 19th and early 20th century.

It is always amazing that republicons are dead set against making sure that kids have food, education, and doctor visists, but thik nothing of dropping trillions into the pockets of millionaires and billionaires. Walmart gets welfare, "tax increment financing" they call it, but it is welfare. How come you aren't worried about that? Just some poor kids who "picked" the worong womb in which to gestate getting a vaccine. That is what pishes you conservatives off. Not the Walton family - the four richest people on earth, sucking up taxpayer handouts.

Posted by: John1263 | January 27, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I have a question.

My understanding is that the tax cuts in the plan are targeted toward reducing payroll taxes for small businesses and employees and, as such, are entirely consistent with what Obama said he would do during the camapign. Is this correct?

Posted by: JoeBewildered | January 27, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse


You would think that President Obama would listen to the republicans at this point. The simple fact is that if the republicans did not put a fight on the initial bailout in September / October that would have been a virtual blank check with no oversight as initially proposed by the democrats. Now that there is oversight, where is Barney Frank? Obama needs republicans so the blame can be spread out when this mess turns out to be an entire failure.

Posted by: FormerNewYorkerNo9 | January 27, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama is more than capable of getting whatever bill he thinks will work best. He is hearing the republicons out, exactly like he promised. Since the only thing we have heard from any of the republicons is "tax cuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts"
one can safely assume that they think taxcuts is the answer. Of course, they think taxcuts is the answer to every probelm, and their tax cuts have actually been part of problem. Since they keep offereing the same old tired nonsense President Obama should thank them politely for their input, then ignore it whole heartedly.

Posted by: John1263 | January 27, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama is more than capable of getting whatever bill he thinks will work best. He is hearing the republicons out, exactly like he promised. Since the only thing we have heard from any of the republicons is "tax cuts taxcuts taxcuts taxcuts"
one can safely assume that they think taxcuts is the answer. Of course, they think taxcuts is the answer to every probelm, and their tax cuts have actually been part of problem. Since they keep offereing the same old tired nonsense President Obama should thank them politely for their input, then ignore it whole heartedly.

Posted by: John1263 | January 27, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Saint,

It wasnt the Dems that ruined Texas. You must not be a native. In 1990 our state had over crowded prisons, bad schools and a record deficits. Then Gov Ann Richards changed all that. The state was great once more. Then Dubya who isnt a Texan ruined everything good she did for the state. And then his flunky Gov. Good Hair continued his worthless policies. You know it as well as i do.....

Posted by: rharring | January 27, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Changewhat:

You should look to the French Revolution and the beheading of the upper classes as the end result of ignoring the plight of the underclasses. However, your not going to learn a whole lot of history with your head so firmly embedded in Rush Limbaughs posterior.

Posted by: JoeBewildered | January 27, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse


JoeBewildered |

Yep, he is pretty slick. The slickness he perfected during his evolution in the cess pool of South Chicago. Where he honed his head fake his mastery of deceit. His Alinsky method of political thuggery. His lofty empty mantra that captures the emotional. Yep he is good and should not be trusted as far as he can spit.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | January 27, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

This is fun to watch. Obama is probably two, if not three steps ahead of the Republicans. He knows he can ram whatever bill the Democrats care to write down their throats at any time, but he is at least giving the appearance of letting them participate and standing coolly by while they throw their public hissy fits. I watched Obama throughout the primary and general elections, and this is a guy who knows how to hoist opponents with their own petard. Right now, he's just giving the remaining Republicans rope with which to hang themselves.

Posted by: JoeBewildered | January 27, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Boehner and O'Connell tripped over each other running to another talk show to overplay their meetings with President Obama.

And uh, FEG---The - YOU LOST - your populist screaming should be done at the lame Texas politicians that claim to represent you. They sold your way of life down the river...

Posted by: LABC | January 27, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama is a class act.

I don't think we've seen anything quite like this before. Maybe we should all watch and learn. Notice what's different.

A lot of us here are making a lot of noise -- on both sides -- and so are some politicians and some media personalities; but Barack is not doing that. I wonder what he's up to. Barack being Barack could be pretty interesting to see. It takes a while to catch on to this cat.

Posted by: pressF1 | January 27, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

The Stimulus package should not contain any Tax Cuts unless they are offset by Tax increases on Coal and Big Oil Polluters and profiteers.

Drop the Tax Cuts, enact a Cap-n-Trade law, and invest heavily in American Renewable Energy infrastructure Production and Investment Tax Credits.

Investment in Renewable Energy Production and Investment Tax credits (PTC/ITC) and Education Programs provides our country with the Best Bang for the Buck towards meeting the goals of Widespread Employment, Freedom from Dependence on Foreign Energy and Protecting the Environment. Every dollar Invested in Renewable Energy Production Tax Credits has been proven to generate an additional $7~8 dollars of Private Investment. If used wisely, a $100 Billion annual investment can result in $700~$800 Billion annually of new Investment into our Economy, along with Millions of Jobs.

Posted by: liveride | January 27, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

It is apparent that libs like high taxation. It is stupefying. And of course the class envy surfaces. People that earn a good living are bad, companies that employ people are bad. Only government that taxes the productive to care for the nonproductive is good. A strange unhealthy warped philosophy. But it is the liberal one. Gimme gimme gimme and suck on the government teet. Liberals should be embarrassed. Yet they are not because they are bitter, angry and disappointed in their own ineptness as they depend on the government and the tax paying citizens to care for them. Pitiful.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | January 27, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

This is precisely why Republicans lost this election. They are full of hate and are not for the middle class. Unless the Republicans reinvent themselves and move towards the more compassionate middle, we will become a one party country. Wake up GOP! Don't you see the same old negativity doesn't work anymore?

Posted by: edwinjones | January 27, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

We already know the GOP ideas: Tax breaks for big Oil and Coal, Tax breaks for the Rich, let the majority of Poor and Middle class fight the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan without tax relief, No laws to protect the environment (how's that working for Tennessee and it's Coal Ash spill?). I wish it were different but if history is any judge, that's about it. Oh yeah, they are for the $302~$352 Billion Littoral Ship building program based in Alabama.

Posted by: liveride | January 27, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Obama's "tax cut" = Welfare. A liberal means to do no more than buy votes. Welfare as introduced by FDR and expanded by LBJ with his Great Society. The intention being, enslave the government needy with government hand outs to guarantee their vote for decades, generations to come. To the complete detriment of minorities, blacks especially. And now as a result of LBJ and the Socialist dems we have a large portion of the population that votes based on what the government can do for them. So much for the Kennedy democrat party. Obama is a slick South Chicago Political Thug and as his henchman Emanuel said “we cannot waste a good crisis”. So, Obama will capitalize on the economic situation, exploit it, grow the government and increase the base of the needy.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | January 27, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

How do you solve a debt crisis with more debt?

You can't.

Posted by: dawnisis | January 27, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans seem to think that they can continue the same old policies that is hurting the vast majority of Americans. McCain says he won't be a "rubber stamp" for Obama (talk about sour grapes!).
The Republicans don't care about us; they care only about themselves and their outdated, failed policies. They stand up and try to make it sound like only they have the right answers when in fact their wrong policies caused the problems in the first place.
The Republicans need to get behind Obama for the sake of the average American, not the privileged few that the Republicans usually represent.
If they cannot do so, they need to lose the next election. Let's see if they care about America or their discredited ideology.
I say let us all stand behind our president who has the thankless job of trying to pull America together again and solve our numerous problems.

Posted by: abby0802 | January 27, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Eddie Perez, the Democratic mayor of Connecticut's capital city since 2001, was charged with receiving a bribe and falsifying evidence.

Posted by: hclark1 | January 27, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

If Senate Repugs keep dragging their feet the American people will invoke cloture in 2010 - by throwing even more Repugs out of the Senate.

Posted by: treetopflyer | January 27, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.

$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget

Posted by: atsegga | January 27, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse


Note from the Candy Man - keep on working millions on welfare depend on you - muuuuuahahahaha

Posted by: webber7 | January 27, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse


oh criminey sakes...
everything was hunky dory on the first package, that went directly to businesses/industries to get them out of hock.
now, the second part of the package comes out and all you hear from repulsives is "you are throwing money away".
The second part of this package is the TARP funding. For families. 14 states/317 banks.
Everything is nice for repulsives when ONLY the rich are getting bailed out ($87,000 area rugs and $6,000 shower curtains). You got your money for your planes and botox.
Now, the funds are coming out for TARP (still must see if the "common man" will benefit) and all you hear is bit*hing.

And what about Senate Bill 181 folks!!!
I am so excited about this. It tweaks alot of "Acts" on the books. And the next 2 "Acts" on the books to tweak.
FLSA - Fair Labor Standards Act...and the
USA Patriot Act.
I would love to see FLSA revamped. This right to work state of Arizona may come into the 21st century with their workforce if FLSA would get re-visited !!

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | January 27, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

A big part of the problem with this is the education we have received. We did not get too much on the financial system. On top of that we are expected to believe that the government is good and right. Add a privately owned secret banking system (Federal Reserve) that is not required to report its condition or activities and we keep fighting the ignorance and lack of understanding that makes it possible to run these types of unconstitutional programs onto our backs. We as “the people” mentioned in the constitution are kept ignorant and dependent on a Federal Government for solutions to our troubles. Many of them created by the same government. There is no way the founding fathers would be looking at pushing a stimulus plan. It’s not allowed in the constitution. There is no way we should allow this plan. It’s just a way to force spending. The government is bypassing our unwillingness to spend to keep large corporations afloat by spending $6700 (825 Billion) per person for us. We get the bill plus interest. This, on top of other bailouts, have loaded us up with $175,000 per person in debt. It’s important to get to a point of understanding the truth of this. Without that we will continue to let the politicians dump these problems on our shoulders despite our protests. Look at leaders outside the two party system for our new leaders. The current crop is corrupt, poorly educated and pressured into using the same old loosing solutions to the same old self created problem.

Posted by: AtlasShrugged1 | January 27, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Obama meets with Republicans to tell them what he is going to do.

Posted by: mharwick | January 27, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

This 'stimulus' bill is pure hemlock. Unfortunately, it won't kill us soon enough; we'll be poisoned to death slowly. We've already spent billions over the past 12 years and look where it's gotten us: in debt up to our eyeballs. Spending another $825B does not correct the situation, it makes it worse. Furthermore, our government is going to be spending money that it does not have, so it will have to print it (it's already doing this). The result? Inflation. Sneaky, creeping inflation. Inflation = bad. It's just common sense..going deeper INTO debt does not get us out of debt. Every congressperson, regardless of party affiliation, should vote against this bill.

Posted by: flintston | January 27, 2009 4:38 PM
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Can you name one reputable economist who agrees with this?

Posted by: MisterSavannah | January 27, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

So far the banks got billions and won't loan money to developers or home buyers; Merrill Lynch got billions and paid out billions in bonuses to those who caused the problems; ACORN the discredited group that not only sees dead people but registers them is set to get billions to keep up their drive to copy the gravestones and do their multiple registrations; the money is not going to produce jobs that are vital to the recovery for a very long time and most of the funds are earmarks in disguise. Good work Democrats...you never fail to fail the American People.

Posted by: mharwick | January 27, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Finally You can do what is right!!!!!!!!!! I was not there but I do not remember hearing PROTESTS when George Bush was throwing the money$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ out the window /years of throwing OUR money not his $ out the window!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bdrevers | January 27, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Note to the GOP, you lost the election, the people have spoken, now get with the program or get left in the dust!

Posted by: mrobertb | January 27, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

A little bit of history -

President Carter left office with a $160 million defecite and $0.16 of every dollar that came into the Feds went for paying interest.

President Ronald (McDonlad) Reagan cut the taxes and left us with about an $800 million defecit and $0.80 of every tax dollar going to interest payments (plus a depleted Social Security system).

President King George Bush I didn't change any of Ronlld McDonalds's policies, but, at least he didn't make them worse.

President Clinton left office with a $160 million SURPLUS (+/-), but left the American taxpayer with a $0.60 intrest payment.

Enter King George Bush II. He got his tax package through. Plus war spending. His defecit was about $500 million and growing at the beginning of 2008. Don't know how much of every dollar went to interest - I never heard word one about that.

Then President Obama is elected. And he's inherited a mess. He's been in power less that two weeks and already the Repugnuts say they want more tax breaks. I'm sorry to say this, Mr. President, BUT DON'T LISTEN! The RepubliKKKans are out to destroy this great country. Push the package thru ON YOUR OWN. You ain't beholden to anybody, sir. And I wish you all the luck to end this as soon as your able.

Posted by: hobsry7350 | January 27, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

O'Bomba can snivel "But-but-but, I WON!" all he wants.

But he did NOT win in Texas, and many other States hit hard right now, that are NOT benefiting from all the Pork the Dims are passing out!

Then, what he is doing is feeding what is already a wasted old line of Welfare, and not addressing the needs of many People who have no foggy Idea of how to get on welfare-because we used to always work, and are too proud to get in those lines!

Our problem, is that because we got slammed, our Credit is now wrecked, and we are defaulting on our loans-But NO Bank is willing to lend us any Money to keep from going under!

Years, or even half-Years, is around 3 months longer than our delinquent accounts will bear!

The WORKING Class is in trouble, and we need Money NOW!

Now, from the School for the hard of hearing, a repeat of the main Points:

THE WORKING CLASS IS HURTING, AND WE NEED MONEY NOW!

It could be done through IRS Accounts, $350 Billion could be 35 MILLION $10,000 LOANS!

Posted by: SAINT---The | January 27, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Understand this. Republicans do not believe in government action except as it pertains to military adventures and projects in their district. They also believe that tax cuts are the best tool for redistributing wealth from the working poor to the rich. Tax cuts will immediately generate more disposable income which will be used to by products made in China, Vietnam and South Korea. This will stimulate the economies of those countries who can then buy U.S. bonds that will be sold to finance our deficit. This will do nothing to improve our decaying infrastructure. Also, the National Mall will become a dust bowl or mud bowl depending on the weather. Thanks but no thanks to that Republican plan to nowhere.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | January 27, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Good hopefully the Republicans will stick to their principals this time and oppose this bill.

It is interesting to see how the Republicans get blamed for the first bailout when many of them initially opposed it, while many Democrats were pushing for it. Let the Democrats take full responsibility for this bill.

Posted by: BGuardian | January 27, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Earth to Repugs - "Put away childish things"

Posted by: treetopflyer | January 27, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are NEVER going to wake up. They are not the least bit capable or interested in anything to do with the "common good".
All we can do is continue to defeat them in election after election and flood them with our views and let them know they are "TOAST"!

Posted by: cms1 | January 27, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

this is rediculous. really?? 700 billion to wall street-where has the money gone (hint: it isn't in this country any more) but we can't afford the boost our jobs, infrastructure or healthcare? Nationalism for finances without any accountablitly and F**& the people and their health and pocketbooks and energy supplies. Nice GOP-- thanks for letting us know where you stand. Truely surprised there are any repubs left.

Posted by: Smarra | January 27, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans talking about excessive spending,what a joke. They can spend billions on a war created by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and find nothing wrong with this spending. It's time for pay back, naturally our friends from the right don't like, but who cares.

Posted by: shipfreakbo214 | January 27, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me? The Republicans spent 8 years turning our yearly surplus into a trillion dollar deficit, spend $700 billion dollars on corporations without OVERSIGHT (those corps now say they don't "recall" what that money has been used for), and then when we get a smart stimulus package that gives money to the states, encourages job creation, and EDUCATION, we're told it's EXCESSIVE SPENDING?

I'm appalled that the Republicans still insist on being destructively partisan while our economy is going down the tubes. What the crap??

Posted by: Tarayani | January 27, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

JohnQuimby, how very patriotic of you. "I hope he fails" is what Limbaugh said. So he and his listeners think the country should fail. Don't you care about America?

Posted by: birdaa | January 27, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't it get reported (hint, hint Michael D. Shear) that Americans told the WSJ/NBC poll last week that they support more public spending and less tax rebates by a margin of 2 to 1, or that Obama has nearly 70% approval? The Republicans are being obstructionist mercenaries and need to be cut out of this deal now. They'll put for more tax cuts, then more when they get them, and more when they get those. And when the stimulus bill is $500 billion in fiscally suicidal, non-stimulating tax cuts for the rich (I'm banking all of my rebates; I don't need cash -- I need nice trains and job guarantees!), they'll blame Obama for laying the egg that Boehner built.

How many more hundreds of thousands of jobs need to be lost before Boehner spontaneously combusts and shuts up already?

Obama -- you won. The American people are behind you. Boehner is as relevant to the world as the Indian Communist Party.

Posted by: itchy1 | January 27, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a better man than me because I wouldn't even both asking these Republicans for their opinion. They would get ONE chance to jump on board and if they put up a fuss I would steamroll their a$$es.

I'd like to see how Boener's blue collar constituents spend their tax cuts when they are out of a job!

Posted by: hoos3014 | January 27, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Everyone in the GOP should do EXACTLY what Rush says. At least until we replace them in 2010.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | January 27, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Senator Grassley: "No Republican ideas need apply."

Yip. Jes' 'bout sums it up.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: treetopflyer | January 27, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

A wingnut is as a wingnut does.

The GOP are wingnuts, merely judge them by their actions.

Posted by: Heerman532 | January 27, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Miraculously the GOP is now the party of the people, when there is no money and they have no jobs. And Palin has opened a PAC on the internet, I can bet the action will be all about her.

Posted by: AverageJane | January 27, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Look, B.O. ran on a platform of bipartisanship. If he does not listen to the GOP, then he's no different then Bush was when he was in charge. It's not time for a 'payback' for any party, it's time to take the best course of action, which should not include the government buying out every free market this country has left - that's called "socialism" and sucks far worse than anything Bush ever did.

Posted by: Strch1ld | January 27, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

This 'stimulus' bill is pure hemlock. Unfortunately, it won't kill us soon enough; we'll be poisoned to death slowly. We've already spent billions over the past 12 years and look where it's gotten us: in debt up to our eyeballs. Spending another $825B does not correct the situation, it makes it worse. Furthermore, our government is going to be spending money that it does not have, so it will have to print it (it's already doing this). The result? Inflation. Sneaky, creeping inflation. Inflation = bad. It's just common sense..going deeper INTO debt does not get us out of debt. Every congressperson, regardless of party affiliation, should vote against this bill.

Posted by: flintston | January 27, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

They were silent when Bush was borrowing and spending like water. Obama is inheriting an annual yearly debt of over $1 trillion. Their squeals are nothing but partisan sniping from a Party that has embraced a failed ideology and a failed president.

Tell them to sit down and shut it!

Posted by: thebobbob | January 27, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey Republicans - you lost the election. Besides, Republicans have no idea what bipartisanship means and they never have. It has always been "My way or the highway" as far as they were/are concerned.
It is a new day in America. They need to get with or get out.

Posted by: lasker1895 | January 27, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Let the GOP pigs squeel, they took this country down, they sat on their hands and said nothing during the biggest disastor in history, Bush. Rubber stamped everything he sent over, worked or should I say they showed up three days a week and now all of the sudden they are oh so concerned about the Stimulus. The only thing that the Tan man and Mitchy are concerned about are themselves! I say to them, move over and let the grown ups now run the country and try and rebuild what you and your trickle down economics have destroyed.Maybe you didn't get the memo from the American People, your DONE!

Posted by: sfilutze | January 27, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse


Honestly, Obama shouldn't bother to consult with Republicans - especially on economic matters.

They clearly care more about their (proven dead wrong) ideological extremism than getting America back on track, and they will just continue with their knee-jerk obstructionism at the expense of us all.

And why wouldn't they? If any of Obama's initiatives succeed, their entire "philosophy" is (yet again) proven wrong. We've learned not to elect people to run the government whose beliefs require an ineffective government that doesn't work.

Bring on 2010. Republicans *still* haven't learned why America hates them. We want results. Results require action.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | January 27, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are obviously going to be opposed to any Democratic measure, especially a spending bill.
The Republicans need to wake up and face the fact that our country is in an economic crisis that needs immediate and drastic or profound intervention.Yeas, that means spending hundreds of billions of dollars to stimulate our economy. Ignoring the problem is not going to work this time.
Stop crying about spending money and do it! This is petty cash to our government. Do the job or step aside and let others take action. Just stop acting like Rush Limburger and do something right for and change that will help the people.

Posted by: maphound | January 27, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh won't we just hear how Republicans are being "cut out of the deal" after they have unilaterally ruined this country for so many long years. Let them squeal....and squeal they will....we don't care anymore. We want something done by someone who gives a damn about the rest of us. That's Obama.

Posted by: cms1 | January 27, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"Tax cuts and rebates evaporate as soon as they are spent. Spending for purposes such as infrastructure creates benefits that last generations."

Well done StanKline

Also - how do you cut taxes for the 8% of Americans who are now unemployed? If tax cuts for the rich create jobs, why didn't the Bush tax cuts keep all these people employed?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | January 27, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

As the country sheds over half a million jobs per month, our conservative politicians still sing their tax cut chorus. Americans voted for change in November, and a big reason were the monotone Republican economic policies that have not reversed our economic downfall but in many ways have contributed to it.

Our elected officials must join together in action for the sake of America's future. When the American economy goes into cardiac arrest the patient needs a defibrillator not a handful of cholesterol lowering pills.

The bold actions proposed by the Obama administration need to be enacted. These proposals will help not only our infrastructure; they will stimulate growth in the large companies that make the steel, parts, and machinery. That will put money into workers hands which when spent will put other people to work in retail shops, restaurants, etc.

This kind of trickle down economy has always worked.

Posted by: austintx3 | January 27, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans keep saying we are putting the stimulus on our childrens' credit card, and that it should contain more tax cuts and less spending.

We are continuing to benefit from stimulus spending that was done in the 1930's, like Skyline Drive and National Airport. There were also history and cultural preservation projects that produced results we continue to have available today

It seems to me that if we are charging the stimulus to our childrens' credit card we should be devoting the bulk of the money to spending that puts people to work on infrastructure, technology, and similar projects from which our children will continue to enjoy the benefits.

Tax cuts and rebates evaporate as soon as they are spent. Spending for purposes such as infrastructure creates benefits that last generations.

Posted by: StanKlein | January 27, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Nice to have a President with the confidence to bypass the leadership of the opposition and go directly to the Representatives for discussion.

GOP leaders are being obstructionist so Obama is cutting them out of the deal.

Too bad Grassley is butt-hurt.

It's over boys. Obama took your power. Now he's going to take your party.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | January 27, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

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