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Joe Biden

Biden Thanks House Democrats for Tough Votes on Stimulus Bill

By Perry Bacon Jr.
WILLIAMSBURG, Va. -- Vice President Biden told House Democrats at their annual retreat today that the president's stimulus bill might not be an easy political vote, promising that in 2010, therefore, "I'll campaign for you or against you, whichever will you help you the most."

"I'm sure you'll be nailed in ads," he said, though he did not detail what in the bill might draw controversy.

The vice president, who is planning to depart later today for a security conference in Munich, Germany, went on to praise the House Democrats for their votes on the stimulus and said it was important for members of his party to hang together.

"We're all in this together. The only thing we can get wrong is not reaching a consensus among ourselves as a White House, a Senate and a House," he said.

As he prepared for one of his first major trips as vice president, he seemed to be enjoying some of the perks of his new job.

"That's a nice plane we got," he said. "I always voted for public housing, I never thought it would be this good."

Posted at 3:41 PM ET on Feb 6, 2009  | Category:  Joe Biden
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Apparently proactive government actually works.

Economist Jeffrey Sachs has historically been a strong advocate of the free market, deregulation, and privatization of the commons, so what he has to say about social welfare states may surpise some of you.

Posted by: rooster54 | February 7, 2009 10:32 AM

I'm just quoting the CBO (and SNL).

Posted by: JakeD | February 7, 2009 7:18 AM

JakeD still has trouble with the concept that "economic stimulus" means "spending money."

Posted by: nodebris | February 6, 2009 10:17 PM

Nonetheless, Senate Democrats will pass a $780 billion "stimulus" bill tonight.

Posted by: JakeD | February 6, 2009 6:35 PM

More news:

"President" Obama's economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said yesterday.

CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills may help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing.

CBO estimates that by 2019 the Senate legislation would reduce GDP by 0.1 percent to 0.3 percent on net. [The House bill] would have similar long-run effects, CBO said in a letter to Sen. Judd Gregg, New Hampshire Republican, who was tapped by Mr. Obama on Tuesday to be Commerce Secretary.

Posted by: JakeD | February 6, 2009 5:14 PM

Note also that many of Obama's top advisors were DIRECTLY involved in our housing mess. Austan Goolsbee even disputed whether "subprime lending was the leading cause of foreclosure problems," touting its benefits for credit-poor minority borrowers and warned that "regulators should be mindful of the potential downside in tightening [the mortgage market] too much."

Posted by: JakeD | February 6, 2009 4:37 PM

You're pathetic.

Posted by: zukermand | February 6, 2009 4:35 PM

Dick Cheney comes out from under his rock to try to scare us, and set up Obama for the blame if we are attacked again. Lindsay Graham sputters in dramatic fashion about how the Republican Crime Family is being neglected by the administration. Glen Beck froths at the mouth about how we are headed for communism or fascism (he doesn't know which). Druggy Rush Limbaugh hopes Obama fails in his attempt to save the country from the mess the right wing put us in--talk he himself would have denounced as treason had it come from someone else a year ago.

Each day seems to bring new outrages from the Right Wing Lunatic Fringe. Each day it gets nuttier, more venal, more out of hand.

Ladies and gentlemen, we ARE seeing the Right Wing in its death throes and we can't let them take us down with them. The only chance these crooks and liars have is if Obama fails and the country collapses. THAT IS THEIR ONLY HOPE. THEY COULD CARE LESS WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR COUNTRY!

Posted by: DrainYou | February 6, 2009 4:35 PM

SUDEIKIS AS SEN. BIDEN - Let me tell you something else. And listen to me well. As sure as I'm standing here today, during his first few weeks in office, this brilliant young President, is going to be tested ... A deliberately manufactured crisis, designed to test his mettle. Now, in this crisis, he will have to make decisions. Decisions that may at first, to the casual observer, seem ill considered. Our military may invade Pakistan. Or surrender to the Chinese. We may sell Hawaii to Saudi Arabia. Or just destroy it, so it can't fall into North Korean hands. But just reserve your judgment. We know what we're doin'. (NOTICING SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CROWD) Hey! Mickey Doyle! County Treasurer How ya doin?


Mark my words. If you take away nothing else from what I say here today, or indeed, in this entire campaign, remember this. If Barack Obama is elected, we will have a crisis. And when this crisis hits, and it will, in the second week of February, we may do some weird things. We may cede Florida back to Spain, or Alaska to the Russians. We may blow up every nuclear power plant in the country. We may set fire to Washington D.C. We may round up all French-Canadians. But don't lose faith. It's all part of a plan. (SEES SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CROWD) Hey! There's Pat Reardon, a great assistant D.A. here in Greene County! Good to see ya, Pat!


I'm going to say something else now, and I want you to mark well the words that I say. And remember that I said them here today. In the second year of the Presidency of Barack Obama, a young child shall come from out of the North, from a city of steel. And this child shall rule for a time. But the child shall rule falsely. In deceit. By the trident of Neptune, what I have spoken is the truth.


Mark well, as I stand here today, the Time of Trouble shall last one year, one month, one day, one hour and one minute. (SPOTS SOMEONE IN CROWD) Hey Phil! How ya doin'? Phil Malloy, head of the Steel Workers Local.

But at the appointed hour, the Time of Trouble shall end. And peace shall come to this land for one hundred years. The mouse shall bell the cat, the lamb shall lead the lion, the poor and ignorant shall know wisdom and plenty.


Gird your loins! By the beard of Jupiter, gird your loins!

Posted by: JakeD | February 6, 2009 4:26 PM

Reminds me of that Biden skit (or was it?) on SNL:

Posted by: JakeD | February 6, 2009 4:18 PM

Aside from the prospect that the economy is not doing any better (or is actually WORSE) next year, I think some of the pork in the Stimulus Package has already proven controversial: $350 million for STD prevention, $100 million for children to learn green construction, $50 million to NEA stimulate the economy?! Add those all up, and pretty soon you’re talking real money ; )

Posted by: JakeD | February 6, 2009 4:06 PM

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