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Obama Hails Stimulus Passage as 'Major Milestone'

By Michael D. Shear
CHICAGO -- President Obama today called congressional passage of his stimulus plan "a major milestone" in efforts to turn around the nation's economy, and he said he would soon sign the massive legislation into law.

The comments, in his weekly Internet and radio address, came just hours after a late-night vote in the Senate gave final approval to the $787 billion spending and tax cut plan.

In the address, Obama said the plan would "ignite spending" in the country, and he praised the members of Congress -- almost exclusively Democrats -- who "came together in common purpose to make it happen."

He also promised skeptical listeners that the government's poor track record of wasting money would not be repeated this time.

"Our goal must be to spend these precious dollars with unprecedented accountability, responsibility, and transparency," he said.

"Once the plan is put into action, a new Web site -- recovery.gov -- will allow any American to watch where the money goes and weigh in with comments and questions. And I encourage every American to do so," he said. "Ultimately, this is your money, and you deserve to know where it's going and how it's spent."

The president warned that the stimulus package, one of the largest spending plans ever passed by Congress, was only part of what will be necessary to right the economy.

He said the weeks to come will require efforts to fix the banking system, get the housing industry back on its feet and reform regulatory structures that failed to catch the problems in the first place.

He also promised to submit a budget later this month that will "begin to restore the discipline these challenging times demand."

He said deficit spending is necessary to jump-start the economy. But he said that the country's "long-term" goal must be to tame the deficit.

"Our long-term economic growth demands that we tame our burgeoning federal deficit; that we invest in the things we need, and dispense with the things we don't," he said.

After weeks of sobering, even depressing speeches, Obama's address ended on a hopeful note, quoting former president John F. Kennedy, who said, "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks."

Obama said: "America, we will prove equal to this task. It will take time, and it will take effort, but working together, we will turn this crisis into opportunity and emerge from our painful present into a brighter future. After a week spent with the fundamentally decent men and women of this nation, I have never been more certain of that."

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In his first three weeks in office, President Obama has passed the largest Stimulus and Economic Recovery Bill in American history. Yet, many in the media and the Conservative punditocracy continue to label this achievement a legislative defeat for Obama. Perhaps, as we continue to listen to Rush, Hannity, Savage, Crowley, and the rest of the Far Right Wing-Nut media, we can hear the answer to that historic question posed by a London newspaper following Bush's re-election in 2004: "How Can 59 Million Americans Be So Dumb?"

Please visit my Blog: "Conservatives Are America's Real Terrorists"
http://conservativesarecommunistss.blogspot.com/

Posted by: cjprentiss | February 17, 2009 9:59 AM

Those who claim to know what Obama is going to suggest in the way of tax policy are blowing smoke. Much will depend on the state of the economy which has been written off as dead. That may in fact be so. On the other hand, most of these so called experts have been wrong before.

In all likelihood tax policy on the top 5% will not be restored to current levels but could be cut relative to the rates that would be restored. The one thing that I am sure of is Obama's fiscal policy will be geared toward the economic needs of the country. The political games will be played by congress.

There appears to be no economic foundation to the Republican's position, only political ones. Though The Democrats might be no different if Obama were not there, they have for the most part acceded to his wishes.

I am not willing to say that there is no pork in this bill but relative to the bills that passed a Republican Congress in 2003 to 2006 it is small. A bill does not have to be perfect to go along with it. The Republicans are unwilling to cooperate in the form of creating a bill that tales Democratic ideas into account. They are still operating in the mode of our way is the only right way.

That leads to the sad conclusion that their way of planned victory is for the country to fail. Then they will try to reinstall the tyranny that George Bush worked on establishing. Republicanism today would be most popular with those who believe that the will of the majority should be thwarted by those who know best, radical conservatives. Those who would like to end Western Democracy.

Think I am over reacting. I have heard these opinions expressed by some fanatical conservatives when they became frustrated at not successfully defending their positions.

We have plenty of work to do and will have to do it dragging these closet fascists along, kicking and screaming. There is much to remind us of the thirties beside the financial and economic crisis.

Posted by: Gator-ron | February 16, 2009 9:16 PM


'SHADOW GOVERNMENT' SHACKLES OBAMA ON TORTURE

• The promise of "change" may come -- if Congress shows the courage and determination to provide Team Obama with sufficient cover to right the wrongs.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/shadow-government-shackles-obama-torture

OR (if link is corrupted):

http://My.NowPublic.com/scrivener

*******************************************

IT IS DAY 27 OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

DO YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOUR 'MULTI-AGENCY COORDINATION CENTER' IS UP TO?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-targets-terrorizes-u-s-citizens

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 15, 2009 1:42 PM

I have an idea. If you live in a district where your representative voted "no" to the stim package, you and your area should get nothing from it. Think the repubs' tune might change?

Posted by: hilarycollinsrn | February 15, 2009 7:58 AM

HR 219 THIS WILL SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY---but guess why PUBLIC hasn't heard about it?? Because DEMS don't want anyone to know that this bill will for DECADES to come SECURE SOCIAL SECURITY for the PUBLIC how?

1. Creates enough SURPLUS to pay all SOC SEC benefits for decades to come

2.Keeps politicians from cutting PRESENTSOC SEC benefits

3. keeps politicians from raising taxes.The lobby groups put out the info yesterday and that DEMS don't want anyone to know because then politicians would have to stop using the SOC SEC for pork projects. introduced to Congress by RON PAUL OF TEXAS. If you want to put a stop to this worst spending you can write your congressman, Christopher Kit Bond and Claire McCaskill at the US Senate, Washington D.C. 20510 or your US Congressman Respresenting the 8th District, Jo Ann Emerson, Washington D.C., 20510.

Tell them your want to see the Social Security Preservation Act HR 219 which would require 100% of the trust fund money saved be passed. It is clear politicians will not pass the Social Security preservation Act HR 219 unless a tidal wave of support for the American public forces them too.

Posted by: moonstream1 | February 14, 2009 7:13 PM

We are all Socialist Now! Comrades welcome to the USSA

Posted by: bill_austin | February 14, 2009 6:16 PM

The Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Christian Socialist. That was before McCarthy.

Once it was generally understood and agreed that Joe McCarthy was a deranged paranoid lunatic. How did his ideology become popular in contemporary America? A plague of republican induced stupidity!

Keep it up, fascist. It's a more substantial insult to be called "republican" than "socialist" already.

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 7:01 PM

We are all Socialist Now! Comrades welcome to the USSA

Posted by: bill_austin | February 14, 2009 6:16 PM

Re: Special Texas News Post

Original Material Published in the Houston Chronicle Feb. 6th 2009.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | February 14, 2009 5:58 PM

XTRA XTRA - SPECIAL TEXAS NEWS:

WASHINGTON — A delegation of officials led by Galveston Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas traveled to Capitol Hill and left hoping the federal government would pick up the entire tab for the repair of the city's infrastructure and government buildings, which were damaged by Hurricane Ike.

Thomas warned lawmakers that the city could not afford to pay 25 percent of the recovery costs as required because tax revenues have plummeted.

The Galveston officials also sought congressional support Thursday for more than $25 million in the massive economic stimulus package working its way through Congress. The money, officials said, would go toward "shovel-ready" construction projects.

Republican U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison promised to continue to help the city recover from Hurricane Ike.

"As much as we've been able to do in the months since the hurricane, we know there is much more we can and will do to rebuild our Gulf Coast communities," she said in an online story Thursday for the Houston Chronicle.

Republican U.S. Sen. John Cornyn said he believed that lawmakers could persuade Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano to waive a requirement that the community must pay a share of recovery costs, just as the Bush administration forgave Louisiana communities' share following Hurricane Katrina.

The same week they promised to help you -
They voted against you Galveston.

WHERE'S THE PORK?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | February 14, 2009 5:53 PM

Even Sen. Collins has said if the GOP keeps up this obstructionism they will end being a "regional party," essentially the old Confederacy--how retro and depressing is that? The economy is serious business. We need serious solutions, not silly blather about commies, flagpins, BHO's middle name, WH dress code violations, etc.

The attempt to undermine our President and the jobs will result in scores of moderate Repubs going Dem, no question about it. In fact we are already seeing that: BHO won 53% of the vote but his approval rating is now at 70% according to DailyKos. That 17% increase probably includes a lot of converted Repubs.

The GOP needs to understand if your mortgage is past due, or you need unemployment benefits, Americans don't care whether the President is "multicultural" or doesn't wear flag jewelry.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2009 5:30 PM

"The Taliban....I'm sorry, I mean the Republicans..."

Blame goes to joe sixpack. Lincoln said to win the election, impress the ignorant.

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Posted by: Billw3 | February 14, 2009 5:10 PM


broadwayjoe:
The bread like starts in the rear.

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Posted by: Billw3 | February 14, 2009 5:08 PM

Cornbrain has nothing to do with our current solvency. The petroleum industry was here before he was. His anti-environment buddies have a lot to do with the fact that it's not safe to eat the fish anymore though.

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 5:03 PM

The Taliban....I'm sorry, I mean the Republicans...just aren’t serious about addressing the problems that they had a huge part in causing. There is no plan to help homeowners, there is no plan to help the middle class, there is, frankly, no plan other than to cynically oppose everything to try and reverse their sinking political fortunes.


Americans have wised up to the Republican fake outrage noise machine. And they are too distracted by their own precarious situations to be distracted by fake outrage over things that more often than not don’t even exist – and if they do exist, they won’t put food on American families’ tables or find them a job. The Republican fake outrage list grows longer by the day, and the fear of: "brown people/teh gayz/teh librulz/socialism/nationalization" or whatever else has been played out too long. If anyone even cares one bit about Judd Gregg withdrawing his name from consideration as Commerce Secretary, it will be more along the lines of "just another example where Obama reached out to republicans and was smacked away" – NOT the other way around.


Outside of "their base"...the deep deep south, Americans know that the republican Party is full of crap and cynically putting their own political survival over the best interest of millions of families. Americans know that it was their failed policies that have led us to this point and Americans don’t want to hear finger pointing or see political theater from them anymore. The republican party was trounced in 2006 and 2008 for a reason. And if they continue to be hypocrites and grandstand as opposed to getting serious, they will get trounced in 2010-12 as well – regardless of what happens with the economy. Maybe then, they will learn to get serious as the ranks of their hypocritical posers thins out and gets marginalized further.


Posted by: DrainYou | February 14, 2009 5:03 PM

Rooster54-Was that an attack on Senator John Cornyn?

Well, here is a Clue:

Texas, is one of the ONLY Solvent States around!

I'll credit Kay Bailey-Hutchinson AND John Cornyn for that!

Cripes, if only they had more Power, maybe the other lessor States would not be in the Red!

Posted by: SAINT---The | February 14, 2009 4:48 PM

Animosity;

IS, the Cry of the Wounded LOSER! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | February 14, 2009 4:45 PM

WHO lost?

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 4:47 PM

LOL! :-D

broadwayjoe out proving that:

Animosity;

IS, the Cry of the Wounded LOSER! ;~)

Posted by: SAINT---The | February 14, 2009 4:45 PM

Broadwayjoe said-
Why don't the knuckleheads who voted against the jobs bill insist that their States/districts and institutions not accept ANY funding or benefits from it under any circumstances -- since, as they say, the bill is so awful.

No Joe. It's punishment enough to live in a state that elected John Cornbrain to the Senate. I don't want to punished anymore for neocon idiocy than I already have been.

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 4:45 PM

I meant fresh air. We all get dumber when we read to much right wing propaganda.

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 4:39 PM

Why don't the knuckleheads who voted against the jobs bill insist that their States/districts and institutions not accept ANY funding or benefits from it under any circumstances -- since, as they say, the bill is so awful.

Do they really think folks out of work or behind in their mortgages are going to swallow some "trickle-down" rhetoric in place of a real spending/stimulus bill?

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2009 4:39 PM

JohnQuimby, your postings are a breath of fresh are amid all this right wing malcontent flatulence.

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 4:37 PM

Here's part of what this package means in my bankrupt state of California (which pays for Federal aid in your state GOOBER)

SCHOOLS

"The stimulus sets up a $54 billion fund to help prevent or restore state budget cuts, of which $39 billion must go toward K through 12 and higher education. In addition, about $8 billion of the fund could be used for other priorities, including modernization and renovation of schools and colleges..."

ENERGY

"The package contains more than $42 billion in energy-related investments from tax credits to homeowners to loan guarantees for renewable energy projects and direct government grants for makers of wind turbines and next-generation batteries."

TAXES

"The recovery package has tax breaks for families that send a child to college, purchase a new car, buy a first home or make the ones they own more energy efficient."

HEALTH INSURANCE

"Many workers who lose their health insurance when they lose their jobs will find it cheaper to keep that coverage while they look for work."

INFRASTRUCTURE

"Highways repaved for the first time in decades. Century-old waterlines dug up and replaced with new pipes. Aging bridges, stressed under the weight of today's SUVs, reinforced with fresh steel and concrete."

Seriously - you guys are against this?

WHERE'S THE PORK?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | February 14, 2009 4:27 PM

"There are MILLIONS who O'Bomba-Nation, the Union Loving Economic RETARD overlooked!

[Unhinged material in middle omitted.]

I call for the Ides of March MARCH on the Hill of FOOLS!

Posted by: SAINT---The | February 14, 2009 4:02 PM"
___________

Fella, how do we put this gently? No stimulus package is going to help you. Before it can be of benefit, you must, well, move out of your parents' basement. The jobs bill will benefit just about everyone else.

It was not intended to help those who spend the day throwing rocks at cars from the interstate overpass. Sorry.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2009 4:16 PM

There are MILLIONS who O'Bomba-Nation, the Union Loving Economic RETARD overlooked!

I am talking about the once Marginally Employed, and the once Self-Employed.

We seem to have been totally forgotten! We are not able to receive Un-Employment, or COBRA!

What we needed, was a LOAN!

$Trillions thrown away. Fifty Million People COULD have been helped to save their Worlds for just a Fraction of that Amount!

Fifty Million LIFE SAVING $10,000 LOANS;

Only $500 Billion!

No "PORK", No BULL!

Simply MONEY to People needing it!

THAT, would have been "STIMULATING"!

IF, these clods are still ignoring all of us who have been abandoned by March 15;

Then, on March 15, the Ides of March;

I call for the Ides of March MARCH on the Hill of FOOLS!

Posted by: SAINT---The | February 14, 2009 4:02 PM

rooster54 -

The GOP drinks a lot more than the Taliban.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | February 14, 2009 3:52 PM

dayglo, billw--The cafeteria in your separatist compound closes at 8 tonight. Look out for any black helicopters before then. Your fake-army exercises start at 7:30 am tomorrow, bright and early...Seriously what planet are you on? Look, fellas, Rush, your source of info, is not a newsperson he is a fat radio entertainer, no more, no less. Check out CNN or the BBC when you have time.

Signed,

Reality

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2009 3:50 PM

WHY DID NOT THE DEM. READ THE BILL BEFORE
THEY VOTED FOR IT???TO MY UNDERSTANDING THE
PRESIDENT WANTED ALL BILLS READ IN 5 DAYS
BEFORE THEY VOTED ON BILLS.THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

Posted by: saw1234 | February 14, 2009 3:48 PM


Daylo1:
Unfortunately, the great unwashed are in the majority, voting for what they can get today. That's their mentality.

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Posted by: Billw3 | February 14, 2009 3:28 PM

Daylo1:
Obama promised the moon, and the gullible believed it. The man is a joke, just running around still campaigning.

Posted by: Billw3 | February 14, 2009 2:42 PM

Yes, Bill.

"The blind shall lead the blind and they shall all fall into the ditch."

Let it also be known that I warned my Senator against voting for this bill and the previous bill (when Bush was still in office). He did not heed any of the warnings of his constituents and he almost lost his seat in the Senate. He has now seen the light and has banded together with those around him to desist the evils of this travesty.

Posted by: Daylo1 | February 14, 2009 2:50 PM

Sheeeesh, some of the utterly mindless comments on this thread astound me. It smacks of Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

There's an old saying about people who won't be warned...."They don't believe Lard is GREASY."

Posted by: Daylo1 | February 14, 2009 2:47 PM

Posted by: winterh111 | February 14, 2009 10:14 AM


BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!winterh111!!! Bravo! Well said.

Posted by: Daylo1 | February 14, 2009 2:43 PM

Pete Sessions planning to continue following other terrorist enemies' of the United States example. Taliban a role model for republicans.

I always thought they had a lot in common. Actually the more you think about it... with a few more beards they'd be
hard to tell apart.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/05/sessions-gop-insurgency/

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 2:42 PM


Daylo1:
Obama promised the moon, and the gullible believed it. The man is a joke, just running around still campaigning.

.


Posted by: Billw3 | February 14, 2009 2:42 PM


Liberals buy it today with borrowed money from what the conservatives put in the bank. The Government spends (mostly blows) it today with money borrowed from the Chinese.

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Posted by: Billw3 | February 14, 2009 2:39 PM

You never really believed all of tha campaign rhetoric, did you? If you did, you are probably in shock right now. If you didn't, you are probably indignant right now. Either way you lose.

Posted by: Daylo1 | February 14, 2009 2:24 PM

"Congratulations.

We will have a new law after our President gets through celebrating one of the most vicious tyrants that the world has ever known.

[Robo-troll stuff in the middle omitted]

Posted by: websmith1 | February 14, 2009 1:45 PM"
_____________
Aside from the usual robotrolls, who cut and paste from some hate site, you are seeing very few regular people against this jobs bill. BHO's latest approval rating of 70% seems to bear that out, see today's DailyKos poll.

This time around the let-'em-eat-cake, tax cuts for the rich, trickle-down-your-leg theories pushed by Rush-bo's legions over the last decade weren't going to work this time. Doing nothing isn't an option.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2009 2:11 PM

Typo, remove one "don't" from last entry.

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 2:08 PM

robtay12003-
Only a fool believes the commercial media are liberal. Where did you here that they were liberal? From the same media? Advertisers are corporate lobbyists to the media. If media don't spin coverage in a way that pleases them, they take their business to the angry clowns at Fox.

The right wing bias in the media is self reinforcing circular logic. Bill O'Liar-ly's clown act would not exist if he removed the spin from his No-spin zone".

Mass public opinion has been shifted to the right of reality since the Reagan narrative began. When unaltered reality slips through, the media are accused of being liberal.

Only Koolaid swilling ideologues don't don't get it.

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 2:05 PM

Keep your eye on:
1. Poll numbers for this spending bill
2. The stock market

Both will be bad.
Then, if you want a real laugh, watch how the Democrats and their press (MSNBC, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS) spin it. They're true masters at their craft.

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 14, 2009 1:52 PM

The party of Al Franken has the reigns.
Their chests burst with pride.
You can't help but feel just a little bit sorry for them, as dangerous as they are.
We'll continue to be polite to them, but in 2010 we're cleaning house.
In the meantime, just ignore their insults, and continue to stand firm for a free America.

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 14, 2009 1:46 PM

Congratulations.

We will have a new law after our President gets through celebrating one of the most vicious tyrants that the world has ever known. Like all government laws, this one also takes the money that you and your children might earn in the future and spends it based on government whim.

Our new law will use your money and your children's money to pay back the teacher and trade unions that helped him get elected. It will also serve to help impoverish future generations by using taxpayer money to hire 300,000 illegal aliens.

It will create a new government bureaucracy that will dictate what treatments that your doctor can prescribe for your illnesses. Since they want to eliminate limited return treatments in order to reduce healthcare costs, if you are elderly or suffering from a terminal disease, you are out of luck and you will die sooner rather than later.

This new law was passed behind closed doors by representatives, using the term very loosely, of only half of the population and they made sure that the rest of the legislators did not have time to read it, let alone digest its true ramifications.

When your hungry children can't find a job or your dying parent looks up at you in pain, you will just have to shrug your shoulders and tell them that there is nothing you can do.

http://ewebsmith.com/gov/300000illegals.html

Posted by: websmith1 | February 14, 2009 1:45 PM

If this Bill contained Full Tax-Cuts and nothing else, it still would not have been enough to satisfy the the Right Wing GOP.

They will NEVER BE SATISFIED until:

(A). Every poor (Urban, Rural, and Appalachian)and middle class citizen has been pushed further into the depths of poverty.

(B). Until every hard working american has become unemployed.

(C). Until every hard working american has lost their healthcare and retirement benefits, and other savings.

(D). Until every hard working american has lost their home.

(E). Until they are no longer able to put food on the table for their children.

(F). Until every public secondary school age child is left behind year after year after year.

(G). Until every college bound student can't afford to go to college.

What the GOP fails to understand is that when you take (A - E) away from the hard working citizens of this country, then they have no choice but to depend on gov't services and programs for survival.

Just because the Right-Wing GOP base is miserable, doesn't mean the rest of these people want to live your miserable lives.

The Right Wing GOP can't have it BOTH ways.

Like I said NEVER SATISFIED!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | February 14, 2009 1:39 PM

Something Obamaham and the Democrats are keeping very low key--when they allow the Bush tax cuts to expire next year, it will be the equivalent of a massive tax increase. Of course they insist it isn't a tax hike, explaining with verbal gymnastics and liberal double-speak, but bottom line is, Americans across the board will be paying more taxes, which will further stifle economic activity. Quite simply, they have no desire to return this country to a free market system. You cannot insult them by calling them socialists, because now they openly admit it.
You know what to do in 2010.

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 14, 2009 1:37 PM

debmries: You need to make sure your tin hat is on correctly.....the propeller goes toward the back!

:-)

Posted by: toritto | February 14, 2009 1:32 PM

"A Nation that tries to spend its way to prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."~~Winston Churchill

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. ... I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started ... And an enormous debt to boot!"~~FDR's Treasury Secretary, Henry Morgenthau

"The tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."~~Thomas Jefferson

This is a bad bill. It will have minimal impact on economic recovery. Democrats have passed it while decrying the "excesses of Wall Street" and bemoaning free market captialism. And yet they are secretly counting on the free market economy overcoming the current crisis, as well as the additional drag this bill will create. Polls indicate 62% of the American people oppose this bill. Opposition to this bill does not mean doing nothing. It is possible to disagree without being disagreeable. Democrats have behaved as tyrants. WWJD? What Would Jefferson Do?

Posted by: mongoose1 | February 14, 2009 1:32 PM

I kiss the Republican party farewell and hope that a better opposition party can grow from it's ashes. The rape of America? Where do you get these terrible images of violence in your head? People need jobs and health care and the opportunity to become leaders. I pray that some good conservative leaders can figure out a way to remake a party that is not so dogmatic and hateful that it follows small-hearted people like Rush in lock step.

Thank goodness there were enough votes for this to pass. Al Franken cannot be confirmed soon enough. Thank you to the brave Republicans from Maine and Pennsylvania who listened to their hearts and minds and voted to support all of us. Bless you.

Senator Specter, you have my full support in the next election.

Posted by: maggieww | February 14, 2009 1:29 PM

There is a lot of money going into the economy from our federal government and from foreign governments (e.g., China). This Recovery package of $789B is only part of many trillions put into the economy by the Federal Reserve (actions), the TARP and other actions by the Treasury, and the Recovery Package. Add to this the amount that is being spent on the wars in the current budget. The economic crisis, the wars, the multi-trillion federal budget deficit, the TARP, and the disfunctional cronyism government departments were inherited from Bush. We need to keep that in mind and given that our new President and administration has been in power only 3 weeks. For three weeks it is amazing to see the fundamental policy changes and new legislation.

I don't like that we are in all of these messes, but dealing with it in a pragmatic way is critical to all of us and our country. That a federal Republican caucus appealing to its extreme right wing base continues to behave as juveniles with stunts and hyperbole just to maximise the news media cycles is just shameful. All of these shenaniguns are forever written in the vast media.

Posted by: lucy2008 | February 14, 2009 1:28 PM

All I can say is the world is trying to tell us something....

On Obama’s election the Illinois pick 3 number was 666. This pick 4 was 7779. If you reverse 7779 to 9777 and subtract 666 you get 911 – 1 more time.


Wait there’s more……


Stimulus Spending Porkulus bill passes on Friday the 13th–

666, 911 – 1 more time, and Friday the 13th all marking Obama’s big victories. It’s freaking me out more than Obama’s Gloom and doom “worst economy since the depression” news.

Posted by: debmries | February 14, 2009 1:28 PM

This is a travesty for our country. We have sold our children for generations to working for the company store. What is the matter with you all? You apparently have your heads so far up Obama's ass you cannot think for yourselves. Opposing the pork laden stimulus is not a republican thing. It is the prudent thing to do. No one has read this bill, there are hand written notes in it on a 1100 pages. This will be remembered as one of the worst days in American history. The debt is staggering. You are all leaving out the interest and other costs associated with this bill. Many of these programs will continue in the future and that cost has not been added on. The true cost of this pork fest is in the trillions.

It was not unreasonable to ask for a few days, a week or a month to provide the time to understand and modify this bill.

Well you have your pork now and many of you are likely sitting on your porch waiting for your check and block of government cheese to arrive. Enjoy it, but God help us as this is only going downhill from here.

Next we are going to be asked for more money for TARP, housing bailouts and the list will go on. Where is this money coming from? Do you know that if you add all of the debt including social security, medicare and other entitlement programs it is somewhere between 50 to 100 trillion dollars?

We are broke but the government cannot help itself than to keep the printing presses running. The dollar is going to deflate like the Hindenburg. It was appropriate it passed on Friday the 13th.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | February 14, 2009 1:25 PM

OK . MR. PRESIDENT AND THEN WHAT ??... WHAT ABOUT THE JOBS NOT ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IN THE ENTIRE LATIN AMERICA .. WE NEED JOBS .. BECAUSE THIS WORLD CAN'T FUNTION WITHOUT MONEY .. WHAT ABOUT THE UNEMPLEYMENT SECURE FOR ALL PEOPLE. U PROMESS MR. PRESIDENT???.. I NEED A ANSSWER. U PUPPET..

Posted by: V_1618 | February 14, 2009 1:22 PM

Afraid socialism will lead us to ruin?
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-social-welfare-state

Posted by: rooster54 | February 14, 2009 1:21 PM


...of mice not men...

…and AGAIN I REPEAT, my sensors indicate FEAR…

…FEAR that has caused all MONEY and the vast majority of the wealth & power produced from the sweat of the middle-class laborer in America to be FUNNELED over, mostly by Republican Administrations, to the BOARD OF DIRECTORS & CEO’s of the GUN & BOMB & MUNITIONS PRODUCERS & WAR MACHINISTS in America…

…i.e. Halliburton, BlackWater, Aerojet, Alliant Techsystems, BAE Systems, General Dynamics, Nexter (Giat Industries), Mattel Munitions, G.I. Joe Inc., to name a few…

…who have made deals for the PROLIFERATION of FEAR & HATRED & UNREST for years behind closed doors with Wall Street & Congress & the Republican Presidents and Vice-Presidents and the leaders of the Israel war machine with the vested cooperation by some leaders of the Muslim world…

…so that they can keep control of the world’s power and monies thru the PROLIFERATION of FEAR & HATRED & UNREST…

… and no one held a gun to anyone’s head, there was no need to, for the EXCHANGE OF GIFTS & PROMISES OF UNSCRUPTULOUS WEALTH is all the impetus needed by this small group of elitists to strive to destroy happiness and prosperity for the remaining vast majority of PEACEFUL & CIVILIZED CITIZENS of the planet…

…and it is time to SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON THESE TRANSACTIONS AND THESE PLAYERS and highlight their FEAR & HATRED & UNREST of having to give up one of the seven or eight or seventy-eight (or was that one hundred & seventy-eight, gosh, I’m not sure, I’ll have my accountants get back to you on that one) homes they own, or collection of cars, or ONE LOUSY DOLLAR…

…and the FEAR & HATRED & UNREST in these mice not men that someone else might make some money too and have some comforts in life too…

…can someone at the Washington Post do an article on this please…

...of mice not men...

Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 14, 2009 1:17 PM

Regarding Posted by: allenridge | February 14, 2009 post,

The TARP was not written by Obama and the Democrats last October. Obama was running for the Presidency then. When the TARP was finally written and voted on, Obama didn't vote for it because he wasn't a member of the Senate (he had resigned). He certainly didn't write it. The TARP was written by the Republican Bush Administration (including the Treasury) and then the Republicans and the Democrats in Congress passed the bill and Bush signed it.

Misrepresenting history isn't helpful. Misrepresenting and spinning reality has been so extreme over the last eight years that it is disfunctional. Let's hope there is a little more truth to be shared among us all.

Posted by: lucy2008 | February 14, 2009 1:17 PM

Posted by: mavajuan | February 14, 2009 12:32 PM

Let the Republican congressional districts be the last to receive any benefits from the stimulus bill. _________________________________________

Amen!!! And let the children of Democrat congressional districts be the first to pay it back!!!!

Posted by: mongoose1 | February 14, 2009 1:16 PM

"Soo-Wee! Soo-Wee! Soo-Wee!
Come one, come all to the latest d-crat PORK-FEST - the social-welfare-stuffed PORKULUS bill!

Not a single House Republican --
[Foolish incoherent stuff in the middle omitted]

That's your tax dollars being flushed down the d-crat PORKULUS. BUT, if you're a loony-left liberal d-crat, you can just "geithner" your taxes and you won't have to pay a penny for this atrocity!

Posted by: LoonyLeft | February 14, 2009 1:01 PM"
__________

Are you finished, sir. BTW, lockdown is at 6:30 pm today.

My street-level polling suggests the only real world folks who opposed the package were those who have it made and feel immune from the Second Great Depression and prejudiced Phalinite Yahoos (you know, the ones who obsessed over flagpins and BHO's middle name during the campaign).

Major shoutouts to BHO, Citizen Collins, and those other Citizens who fought for the jobs bill.

Major shoutdowns for Gregg (nuff said), the neoconfederacy in Congress who voted against the bill and the welfare of the American people, and Juan Williams (for insulting the First Lady as "Stokely Carmichael in a dress," an act which won him the Ward Connerly/Michelle Maglagang "Pride" award -- for the 56th time).

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2009 1:14 PM


…and yes, there is much FEAR…

…FEAR that money is now going towards labor working their hands not ‘yes men’ working their lips…

…FEAR that funds are going towards Main Street not Wall Street…

…FEAR that focus is on feeding hungry children not the cocaine & prostitutional habits of the incompetent Corporate Executive …

…FEAR that dollars go towards the building up of homes and communities not the tearing down and destruction of lives…

…and FEAR that relief goes towards the medical & dental needs of the needy not the liposuction of the wealthy largess…

...the FEAR…

…of mice not men…


Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 14, 2009 1:10 PM

Whine....whine....whine!

:-)

Posted by: toritto | February 14, 2009 1:08 PM

The Republican's have demonstrated once again that they DO NOT STAND FOR THE PEOPLE. They continue to resist change using the same tired cliches that wore this country into the ground for the past decade.
As inept as they are, they still managed to cut out billions of dollars for health care and education from the current stimulus bill.
This is a party of absolute no concern for those in need in America.
What a horrid demise against democracy they represent.
Obama will not be defeated by them, and will gradually show America how to vote them all out of office next term !!1

Posted by: dylan915 | February 14, 2009 1:06 PM

Soo-Wee! Soo-Wee! Soo-Wee!
Come one, come all to the latest d-crat PORK-FEST - the social-welfare-stuffed PORKULUS bill!

Not a single House Republican -along with 7 courageous d-crats- voted for this horrific, pork-filled social-welfare joke of a "stimulus" bill. Congratulations to these outstanding Americans for protecting taxpaying citizens!!!!! But shame on the 3 Republican Senator Traitors who sold out their principles by supporting this sham.

Botox pelosi will now get her $30 Million non-earmark earmark to protect her favorite San Francisco rodent. That's "stimulus" you can believe in - if you are a complete mor*n.

Every taxpaying American citizen should be outraged at what the loony-left liberal d-crats have done, and they should thank each and every one of the Republicans who tried to protect their money.

Hear that swirling water sound?

That's your tax dollars being flushed down the d-crat PORKULUS. BUT, if you're a loony-left liberal d-crat, you can just "geithner" your taxes and you won't have to pay a penny for this atrocity!

Posted by: LoonyLeft | February 14, 2009 1:01 PM

Another great transcription job by Michael Shear, simply telling us what Obama said without asking him or even pointing out all the things that are wrong. Such as the fact that all these bailouts combined are as much as $10 trillion.

As for eVerify, those responsible for taking it out *do not read the comments here*. In order to get their attention, you have to call. But, even that isn't enough. You have to publicly embarrass one of them by asking them difficult questions on video:

http://24ahead.com/s/question-authority

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | February 14, 2009 12:57 PM


The do-nothing party of NO! voted against America's recovery.

They voted against the biggest middle class tax cut in US history.

They voted against job creation.

They voted against energy independence.

They voted against pure stimulus infrastructure spending. Their bizarre anti-spending crusades (except blowing up trillions for unnecessary wars for lies, of course) are why we have the infrastructure of the Third World country and our bridges, levees and schools are literally crumbling.

They voted against investing in our future.

They voted only for the continuuing spiral towards the Depression they created.

They hope America fails, and this is anti-Americanism at its worst. We know they hate the whole world, but now we know their contempt includes the American people.

Sick.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 14, 2009 12:55 PM

I am particularly plased at the overwhelming sense of helplessness the GOP office holders and their minions of conservative supporters across the country are feeling at not being able to stop progressive policies of all kinds now becoming reality. This is exactly how those of us on the left felt as we watched in total powerlessness at Bush and the GOP Congress polcies such as taking the country to war in Iraq, shoveling tax cuts to the super-rich, and protecting the big drug companies from having to sell their products to the Federal Government at reduced prices due to the volume of its purchasing. The wheel has turned and the GOP will now have to sit there and seethe as the policies abroad and at home are now shaped by liberals, the very people they despise. They have nobody to blame but themselves for this, as they had a take no prisoners-our way or the highway attitude for such a long time and posioning the well of collegiality.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | February 14, 2009 12:51 PM

"Obama calls bill "major milestone" in effort to boost economy, vows to spend "with unprecedented accountability, responsibility, transparency."

........ Funny that's EXACTLY what Obama and the Democrats said when THEY wrote the TARP bill back in October.

Of course don't expect the liberal fascists that own, manage, and report for the POST to remind you of that.

........So I will...........SAD

Posted by: allenridge | February 14, 2009 12:47 PM

It is amazing how many economic geniuses are posting above who are absolutely sure what the stimulus will achieve. As someone once said to me, "There are two kinds of economists. Those who don't know the future, and those who KNOW that they don't know the future." I think the Republicans are mistaken in opposing the stiumulus, but it is only my guess. The fact is that we WILL spend $787 billion, and we MAY get benefits from that spending. And our children will have to pay back that $787 billion. Let us keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best. Perhaps (probably) we don't have a choice, but then that is what Bush said about Iraq. I am glad that three Republicans voted with the Democrats in the Senate, I want to thank them. But I don't want to bash the other Republicans, they are only following their instincts.

Posted by: rohitcuny | February 14, 2009 12:45 PM

Why didn't the WaPO mention anything about E-Verify being stripped from stimulus - Obviously, this stimulus package paid for by taxpayers and will benefit the ILLEGALS not American workers - We've been screwed !!! Please read "buzzm1" Got to take this one back!!! E-verify must be included-- jobs for American/legals- Illegals must be deported - NO AMNESTY!!!

Posted by: sendthemback | February 14, 2009 12:45 PM

Bill passed.
Game Over.

Once again the final score:
Obama - 1 GOP - 0

Posted by: JohnQuimby | February 14, 2009 12:40 PM

Posted by: mavajuan | February 14, 2009 12:22 PM:
"Most Democrats are too decent to wage vengence."
---------------------------------------------
HAHAHA! Most if not all Demoncrats spewed vengance from their pieholes for almost 8 years! That's all I heard coming from their thick pink lips.

Posted by: Thozmaniac | February 14, 2009 12:38 PM

A great Republican victory.

Posted by: robtay12003

_______________________________

Let the rubes and goobers rejoice in their fantasies and delusion -- as they fade into well-deserved obscurity.

America will long remember the obstructionism shown by the rubes' and goobers' (few remaining) elected representatives.

RIP, GOP.

Posted by: pali2500 | February 14, 2009 12:38 PM

The sheer hypocrisy of the Republican Party can be seen in the following exchange that was heard over and over again:

"Senator (or Congressperson), will you vote in support of the stimulus package?"
"Hell, no!"
"Will you request or accept any funding tied to this package if it passes?"
"Hell, yes!"

Posted by: labman57 | February 14, 2009 12:36 PM

I guess it is premature to predict if this stimulus is going to be enough to reverse the downward spiral but what is clear to me is that the GOP is not the party to be trusted with anything. Exactly, what does the GOP stand for? Fiscal responsibility, give me a break. It is a code word for transferring wealth from the low and middle income people to the wealthy as the country's social and economic infrastructure, which is essential to future growth, lies in ruin. The GOP also does a lot of flag waving, yet it sends troops to unneccessary wars without adequate armors, cuts wages and benefits for those serving in the military and treats them like lepers after they return and need assistance. What else? O yeah, dont forget the social wedge issues it uses to get votes from the perennially unsuspecting public since its natural constituency--the wealthy elite--is relatively small.

Posted by: kevin1231 | February 14, 2009 12:34 PM

"Most Democrats are too decent to wage vengence."


You're either living in a cave, or a blatant liar. What a disingenuous statement to make.
The democrats perfected the politics of personal destruction for use against anyone who disagree with them. What do you think the talk about the "fairness doctrine" is all about. It's vengeance against talk radio, where liberal shows die for lack of support, and conservative shows are financially productive because business pay to advertise on them.
Pelosi and Reid are about the most vengeful lowlifes going, not to mention the Clintons, Kerry, Kennedy, Durbin and the bozos in the White House, Biden Emanuel and Axelrod.

Posted by: LarryG62 | February 14, 2009 12:32 PM

Let the Republican congressional districts be the last to receive any benefits from the stimulus bill.

Posted by: mavajuan | February 14, 2009 12:32 PM

and many a night my children have cried themselves to sleep.

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 14, 2009 12:22 PM

_______________________________________

Presumably, that would be only on nights that you were either home or on your way home.

Their tears are understandable.

Posted by: pali2500 | February 14, 2009 12:31 PM

Aside from the other obvious faults of this bill, why in the world did they gut the tax credit for first-time homeowners?

My wife and I said that if the $15,000 Senate plan went through, we would seriously consider buying a house. Under this bill, however, you only get $8,000, plus anyone making over $75,000 (or $150,000) gets that tax credit phased out. In other words, you are simply encouraging lower wage-earners to buy a house that they might not be able to afford -- which is what got us into this mess in the first place!

My wife and I are exactly the kinds of people you want to entice into the housing market, but this bill has driven us out again.

Posted by: ztexz1 | February 14, 2009 12:31 PM

A great Republican victory.
A great victory for courage, restraint and common sense.
Now let us examine the spending bill sentence by sentence, page by page, and get the information out to the American people.
There is much work to be done in the coming days and weeks.

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 14, 2009 12:30 PM

It's interesting to see all the liberals follow Obama like lemmings to their demise.
Funny actually.

Obama's stimulus plan will take America down the tubes further. There are over 1100 pages in this plan, and not one member who voted for it read it! You'll see. Idiots.

Posted by: Thozmaniac | February 14, 2009 12:30 PM

Stating the obvious, continued…

All we need to know about the National Security State called America is that “they” assassinated JFK after less than three years in office, while allowing George Bush to steal two elections and serve for eight years. Serve being the operative word and the rhetorical question being, “Who did George Bush serve during his role as chief operative in charge?” His actions (and non-actions) certainly didn’t benefit 90% of the non-elites, otherwise known as the American People. 60 years after the National Security State was established its work has been accomplished – the American Republic is dead.

Posted by: daishi | February 14, 2009 12:29 PM

Washington Post old timey logo on top of page is AWFUL!!! Please please please change it.

Posted by: greentunes | February 14, 2009 12:29 PM

Thank God the marsh mice have received the assistance they so richly deserve. It has been a grave concern in my family for years now, and many a night my children have cried themselves to sleep. Thank you, Jesus, and most of all, thank you Obamaham Lincolnak.

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 14, 2009 12:22 PM

Most Democrats are too decent to wage vengence. In this case, where the robotic house Republicans voted herd-like to defeat the stimulus package, perhpas Democrats now need to play a little bit of hardball. Since the Republicans are not concerned about the middle class, then perhaps a benefit distribution list should be developed, where the priority of distribution goes to the Democratic congressional districts. Since Republicans believe in the failed "trickle down" economic theory of the Reagan years, perhaps, Republican congressional districts should be made to wait for the benefits of the stimulus package, to 'trickle down' to them. One would heartily recommend about 2.1 years, right after the mid-term elections. Republicans representing those districts should not mind, they did not support the package anyway. I say punish them.

Posted by: mavajuan | February 14, 2009 12:22 PM

kabreu54 - you do know that your $596 billion spent on Iraq is incorrect, don't you? The real cost as is north of $1.5 trillion, or do you think the cost of rehabilitation of both troops and equipment not to mention the billion of "off budget" items pay for themselves. The true cost of the Iraq War was consistently hidden by the Bush Administration. You are simply kidding yourself. Sad.

Posted by: Duke69 | February 14, 2009 12:21 PM

kkrimmer wrote:
Why do Republicans love Iraq but hate America?

Republicans : $800 Billion for Iraq OK, $800 Billion for Americans NOT OK.
Another lie that Dems like to miss use. The Iraq war to date has cost $596 Billion. That took 6 years. We are now spending $300 billion more in one bill with limited effectivity for dealing with the initial cause of the financial breakdown, the housing crisis. All amendments to help the housing issue were stricken from the pork bill!!!
___________________________________________________________

Fact is, some estimate Iraq will ultimately cost US taxpayers up to $3 trillion. All you are using in your figures is appropriations for Iraq. Your not counting at all the massive appropriations to the VA that have to pay for years and years of therapy and benefits for wounded soldiers. Not only that, many other military and civilian agency expenditures go to support te Iraq war. You better check your math.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | February 14, 2009 12:20 PM

The majority of the public recognizes a fundamental reality:

Obama's main priority is to help the country be a success again.

The GOP's main priority is to insure that Obama fails.

Posted by: labman57 | February 14, 2009 12:19 PM

robtay12003 cried: "Moderate/n.'mod-er-ate:
Without core principles, or an opinion, or a spine. Unable to take a stand one way or another. One who is afraid to make waves, tries to please all. Coward."
________________

*yawn*

I guess everybody who doesn't obey anti-American traitor Rush Limbaugh has no "core principles", huh? You extremist zombies are sick.

Obviously, Snowe, Specter and Collins DID make waves. They took a principled stand for the American people and I am proud of them.

Snowe and Collins are MY senators and I sent them Thank You notes for their wise and courageous decision to stand up to anti-American Republican extremist bullies who are hoping & praying for America's failure. Why? Because they think it might help them electorally.

F*ck you twaats.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 14, 2009 12:19 PM

Grand Theft Economics..

Posted by: sapperinthewire | February 14, 2009 12:18 PM

If the stimulus does what it promises, Democrats will be able to take responsibility for it's success and if it fails, they'll have to take responsibility for the failure. At this point only time will tell.

Posted by: thebink | February 14, 2009 12:16 PM


Great News!

Thank You to President Obama, Democrats and the Republican senators for working towards America's recovery.

Shame on the do-nothing Republican obstructionists who voted for America's continuuing spiral into Depression. They don't work for the American people, who support the stimulus by a margin of nearly 2:1 and overwhelmingly support President Obama. Republicans work for anti-American traitor Rush Limbaugh and their goal is our nation's failure.

How desperate and dishonest are House repubs? John Boner was saying high speed rail between LA and Vegas was pork because it doesn't help HIS district! That's pure stimulus, and stimulus spending is necessary to begin recovery.

Suck it, Republicans and conservatards. Where were you when GW Bush blew up a trillion dollars in Iraq? At least THIS spending will create jobs, start bringing our infrastructure into the 21st-century and invest in our future. Repugnants are against these things.

Losers.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | February 14, 2009 12:14 PM

Moderate/n.'mod-er-ate:
Without core principles, or an opinion, or a spine. Unable to take a stand one way or another. One who is afraid to make waves, tries to please all. Coward.

Posted by: robtay12003 | February 14, 2009 12:13 PM

No matter what Obama does, the Republicans will accuse him of being a Socialist. He should just go ahead and nationalize the banks and fix the toxic loan problem.

Posted by: thebobbob | February 14, 2009 12:12 PM

In regard to the $27.5 billion in the Stimulus bill for highways and other transportation projects, there is flawed legislative language that refers to "paragraph (b)" in section 133 of title 23 of the United States Code; whereas there is no "paragraph (b)" in section 133 of 23 USC.

The legislative language should have read "subsection (b)".

Whether this clerical error and flaw will stop the use of the $27.5 billion for highway and transportation projects rests with the Federal Highway Administration and President Obama, whether they will overlook this flaw, or whether this flaw makes this part of the Stimulus bill not workable, and this $27.5 billion cannot be used as stimulus money for highway and transportation projects in this bill.

[Reference: Congressional Record-House, February 12, 2009, page H1331, 3rd line below heading 'Highway Infrastructure Investment']

Posted by: steve_kirkikis | February 14, 2009 12:10 PM


Posted by: kkrimmer | February 14, 2009 11:26 AM

Why do Republicans love Iraq but hate America?

Republicans : $800 Billion for Iraq OK, $800 Billion for Americans NOT OK.


Another lie that Dems like to miss use. The Iraq war to date has cost $596 Billion. That took 6 years. We are now spending $300 billion more in one bill with limited effectivity for dealing with the initial cause of the financial breakdown, the housing crisis. All amendments to help the housing issue were stricken from the pork bill!!!

Posted by: kabreu54 | February 14, 2009 12:09 PM

"Accountablity, transparency and responsibility?" Who is this guy trying to kid? Nobody has read the bill in its entirety. It consists of liberal payoffs to their constituences, including several billions to build a railroad to the Las Vegas, the gambling capital of the US - where Harry Reid reigns supreme. My state of California is broke and this bill will send billions to Sacramento- so much for encouraging high-spending liberal Democrats to restrain themselves and exercise fiscal discipline. Democrats have lost all sense of proportion and responsibility and the country will pay the price. I know Democrats well- I was a Democrat for years until they went off the rails.

Posted by: mhr614 | February 14, 2009 12:08 PM

With the grandstanding most Republicans did against the stimulus in the House and Senate, it may be time for Obama to write off the entire party as an entity unwilling to work for anything other than strict conservative policies.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | February 14, 2009 12:08 PM

Whatever we think on the stimulus bill, fact is, it was the banks and speculative real estate that got us into this mess. Just who was giving out those jumbo loans without checking credit history nor even employment? My personal opinion, somebody should pay and it should not be the American taxpayer either. We can afford to lose Bank of America and Citigroup, it's not going to impact the average American much at all. If some Chinese investors have trouble, well, deal with it. That's how markets work, isn't it?

Posted by: magnifco1000 | February 14, 2009 12:08 PM

As the market continues to dump. muuuuuahahaha

Posted by: webber7 | February 14, 2009 12:04 PM

to broadwayjoe...


and the beat goes on.

Posted by: not-me | February 14, 2009 11:59 AM

What concerns me is that we are betting our future on this. If this bill doesn't work, we'll be out on our butts in 2010.

Posted by: maxpower99 | February 14, 2009 11:55 AM

What the WaPo deliberately neglected to mention about the Stimulus Bill is that

IT PROVIDES JOBS FOR ILLEGALS at our expense!!!

See:
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/february-11-2009/unbelievable-democratic-leadership-requires-stimulus-job-access-ille?jid=95226&lid=9&rid=994&tid=613300


If that bothers you, then you need to complain to those who did it, telling them you will be voting them out of office unless they quickly AMEND that Bill to NOT include the illegals.

Posted by: tncdel | February 14, 2009 11:42 AM

http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/

“If there is one thing that I would like to claim as my own, it is the comparative theory of superpower collapse. For now, it remains just a theory, although it is currently being quite thoroughly tested. The theory states that the United States and the Soviet Union will have collapsed for the same reasons, namely: a severe and chronic shortfall in the production of crude oil (that magic addictive elixir of industrial economies), a severe and worsening foreign trade deficit, a runaway military budget, and ballooning foreign debt. I call this particular list of ingredients "The Superpower Collapse Soup." Other factors, such as the inability to provide an acceptable quality of life for its citizens, or a systemically corrupt political system incapable of reform, are certainly not helpful, but they do not automatically lead to collapse, because they do not put the country on a collision course with reality. Please don't be too concerned, though, because, as I mentioned, this is just a theory. My theory. ……

“By the mid-1990s I started to see Soviet/American Superpowerdom as a sort of disease that strives for world dominance but in effect eviscerates its host country, eventually leaving behind an empty shell: an impoverished population, an economy in ruins, a legacy of social problems, and a tremendous burden of debt. The symmetries between the two global superpowers were then already too numerous to mention, and they have been growing more obvious ever since. ……”

Posted by: daishi | February 14, 2009 11:41 AM

This bill is not perfect but it will help. And the fact the exception of three moderate Senators, the fact that the GOP worked so hard to maintain the status quo of failing banks, job losses, home foreclosures, massive layoffs of teachers, cops, and firemen, and children without medical insurance pretty much frames the debate for the next election cycle. The Republicans do not give a damn about anythng other than more tax breaks for their rich buddies and to hell with everyone else. I hope the Democrats beat them over the head with that message from now until the cows come home because it is the absolute God's truth.

Posted by: nysteveo2 | February 14, 2009 11:39 AM

The Associated Press Wrote: "Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., was quick to point out that a big chunk of the $8 billion set aside to construct high-speed rail lines could go to a proposed Los Angeles-to-Las Vegas route. Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., helped make sure $10 billion was set aside for the National Institutes of Health, a priority of his."

Goodness, that's $18 billion for just 2 pork projects. You probably don't want to know what the total pork costs are. Worse yet, the total cost will eventually increase by 30% due to compounded interest on borrowing. The money being spent isn't free. This "$780 billion" package will actually cost about $1 Trillion once the interest is tallied.

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | February 14, 2009 11:36 AM

"The stimulus package Congress passed last night imposes new limits on executive compensation Yet trial lawyers are allowed to roam free, just as long as they send the DNC the millions they need."

Uh Oh..Who would have thought that the fascist could move this fast?

This was supposed to be the administration of...Obama quote: "unprecedented accountability, responsibility, and transparency,"

It is time to get your money transferred overseas and your business out of the USSA!

Business are closing, leaving, laying off. The stock market is tanking. Money is flowing to off shore accounts How can you spread the wealth if there is none?

Posted by: Straightline | February 14, 2009 11:31 AM

It is so interesting watching arrogant bullies eat their words when they are no longer hiding behind the skirt of power. Settle in republicans. You have at least 8 more years of this. I personally am amused at what a bunch of whining sore looses they generally are. Their hypocrisy is beyond words, and certainly anyone with a brain can see right through it. It is kinda creepy taking ones ideological lead from a bloated oyxcodone freak, and praying for our country to fail though. What a bunch of loosers...

Posted by: humanbeng | February 14, 2009 11:29 AM

Hats off to BHO and fellow citizens Pelosi, Reid, Collins, and Snowe for putting together a bold stimulus package to jolt the Nation out of the Second Great Depression.

I don't need polls to tell me the public reaction. When I picked up my Washington Post at the local 7/11, its diminutive Filipina manager had a big smile on her face as I paid for the paper, whose headline announced passage of the bill. She said with the biggest smile you can imagine, "It passed." She then asked, "Will it mean more money for the people?" I proudly answered, "Yes."

Please no more articles about the fact the GOP voted, almost unanimously, against the bill. We get that. That's not news. Gregg let the cat out the back yesterday when he said the GOP never had any intention of voting for a stimulus package.

So BHO and Pelosi could have done cartwheels and it would not have mattered one bit. This is not some ideological split; the GOP offered no alternative biil. Rush Limbaugh already admitted as much when he -- quite honestly -- said, "I hope Obama fails."

Memo to the Post: Tell us about what is in the bill for the financial institutions, schools, infrastructure, job creation, capping executive overcompensation, etc. That's what we want from our newspaper, not BroderWorld bloviating about the GOP voting against the bill.

We believe in a two-party system. But the GOP, by taking a meanspirited "let them eat cake" position on the stimulus package, has let partisanship and prejudice walk them down the same path the Dixiecrats and the Know Nothing Party went down, unsuccessfully, in earlier generations. This neo-confederatism is both sad and foolish.

Hate and greed are not legitimate governing principles.

Posted by: broadwayjoe | February 14, 2009 11:29 AM

GOTTA SEE THIS:

Wondering about the stimulus package?
The solution is right here:
http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/

Posted by: kkrimmer | February 14, 2009 11:29 AM

Why do Republicans love Iraq but hate America?

Republicans : $800 Billion for Iraq OK, $800 Billion for Americans NOT OK.

Posted by: kkrimmer | February 14, 2009 11:26 AM

Congress should be congratulated for placing effective restrictions on executive pay, a measure to overcome the lack of courage and fairplay on behalf of the President Obama-Geithner & Company.The Pres has been afraid of the NEW YORK mafia. This is also the time to introduce effective measures against money laundering. Our financial institutions should not be allowed to do business with off-shore banks unless they comply with our transparent standards. We must pursue to get our money back from people like Madoff and restore confidence in our financial system. More than the tax-payers money we need reforms to restore trust in our culture. Thieves must not get away with impunity.We must continue to press our lawmakers for these reforms.Write again to your congressman/woman

Posted by: acpress | February 14, 2009 11:21 AM

Heehee.

How does it feel to be steamrolled? :-)

Want some cheese with that whine??

:-)

Posted by: toritto | February 14, 2009 11:20 AM

The present problem with the banks was created in 1999 when then Pres Clinton changed the law that FDR passed to prohibit the selling of the securities that crashed the financial markets.

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Clinton may have signed the bill, but it was a Republican congress who passed it and a Republican Senator Phil Gramm who wrote it.

Posted by: horace_simon1 | February 14, 2009 11:17 AM

The stench of corruption hangs low over the Obama transition as Richardson and Clinton and Emmanuel and Geithner and Daschle and Holder and Blago and Rangel and Dodd are pulled into the vortex. Soon trillions of federal dollars will be splooged into the nimble old hands of these appointed kleptocrats.

Posted by: georgejones5 | February 14, 2009 11:14 AM

obama appears to be leading with all the skill and intellect of the bush he replaced..from hiring clinton retreads to passing a useless stimulus package to failing to hire a cabinet to attempting to be the next lincoln with a doris kearns goodman team of rivals...color me way less than unimpressed so far..

Posted by: w04equals666 | February 14, 2009 11:08 AM

Obama don't waste your time pursuing the Taliba.ns in Afghanistan, they are here disguise as Republicans, they like to be call also conservatives.

Posted by: bluelagoon21 | February 14, 2009 11:03 AM

These hooligans have run the economy down going on three years and they cant even manage the billion dollar conversion to digital TV.

Posted by: georgejones5 | February 14, 2009 11:02 AM

Bzzzz, Bzzzz, dying bees enter the winter of their discontent. GOP has crippled America enough in the name of their identity politics. Now we feel the extent of GOP supply side torture - debt instead of pay, taking our Social Security surplus to give tax cuts to the top 1 %, repeated applications of miracle grow (capital gains tax cuts and low interest rates) to fuel speculative bubbles that crashed and took away our homes! We've been drowning in the GOP's artificial stimulus that entices to buy more trinkets from China. We need and we're getting some organic stimulus to build a skilled workforce motivated by the prospect that good work will remain here not be exported overseas, government purchases of new technologies to stimulate consumer demand, policies to promote a healthy workforce. GOP can be honest with themselves and realize the wisdom of change so they can gain influence in shaping a new economy - or they can continue to fight an embarrassing and losing fight.

Posted by: tigman_2 | February 14, 2009 11:01 AM

Once there was a little blue hen who decided to grow some wheat. She asked the other animals in the barnyard, “Who will help me plant my wheat?” “Not I!” said the red dog. “Not I!” said the red cat. “Not I!” said the red pig. “Well, then,” said the little blue hen. “I will do it all by myself.” And she did.

The wheat grew tall and was ready to be harvested. The little blue hen said, “Who will help me pick my wheat?” ?” “Not I!” said the red dog. “Not I!” said the red cat. “Not I!” said the red pig. “Well, then,” said the little blue hen. “I will do it all by myself.” And she did.

Next, the wheat had to be taken to the mill and ground into flour. “Who will help me grind my wheat?” asked the little blue hen. “Not I!” said the red dog. “Not I!” said the red cat. “Not I!” said the red pig. “Well, then,” said the little blue hen. “I will do it all by myself.” And she did.

Finally, the flour was ready to be made into bread. “Who will help me make my bread?” asked the little blue hen. “Not I!” said the red dog. “Not I!” said the red cat. “Not I!” said the red pig. “Well, then,” said the little blue hen. “I will do it all by myself.” And she did.

The bread smelled so good when it was baking. All the animals’ mouths started watering as they gathered around hoping to get a piece of bread. “Who will help me eat my bread?” asked the little blue hen. “I will!” said the red dog. “I will!” said the red cat. “I will!” said the red pig. “No!” said the little blue hen. “You did not help me plant my wheat. You did not help me pick my wheat. You did not help me take it to the mill to be ground into flour. And you did not help me make my bread. I did it ALL BY MYSELF! And my little chicks and I will eat it all by ourselves!” And they did!

Posted by: hamishdad | February 14, 2009 11:00 AM

I suggest that you Republicans man up and accept your failures. You lost in 2006, badly. You lost again in 2008, badly. Political experts outside GOP circles are practically guaranteeing further heavy losses in 2010. So go ahead and run Palin in 2012, fools. Your party will cease to exist after that, so please step aside and let the adults clean up the mess you've created.

Posted by: PutDownTheKoolaid | February 14, 2009 10:58 AM

this is a really, really bad effort..it is not nearly enough, and he is will not have enough political capital to spend in the future..paul krugman has another excellant column about this situation..google it up and read..as far as the moneys given to the workers in the form of tax relief..7 DOLLARS A WEEK..ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FLIPPING MIND..PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ARMPIT AND FACE REALITY..

Posted by: w04equals666 | February 14, 2009 10:57 AM

"I believe you need to check history. The present problem with the banks was created in 1999 when then Pres Clinton changed the law that FDR passed to prohibit the selling of the securities that crashed the financial markets."
Posted by: kabreu54 | February 14, 2009 10:39 AM

You not only need to learn history, you need to also learn basic logic. That way next time you won't make an argument that is so devastating to your guy Bush and his party.

So let's say for the sake of argument that a bad law was passed under Clinton. Are you telling us that your vaunted genius in the White House, with complete command of Congress (large majorities on both sides), and de facto control of the federal judiciary (60%+ Republican appointees), could not, in a six year time span, do anything about it?

What about making it worse, huh? Didn't your guy Bush make it far worse by gutting virtually all federal oversight of markets, particularly the exotic instruments invented to mask risk? What kind of SEC was Bush running that Bernard Madoff was able to run a $50 billion Ponzi scheme and get away with it for years, despite repeated tips of wrongdoing to the SEC?

Listen up: you are simply aping the words Rush and the RNC tell you to ape (or maybe you are getting it from Murdoch's rag, the WSJ). Only the Palin-Limbaugh base of the GOP believes this nonsensical garbage. Following this line will lead to the end of the GOP.

Posted by: PutDownTheKoolaid | February 14, 2009 10:52 AM

He also promised skeptical listeners that the government's poor track record of wasting money would not be repeated this time.

"Our goal must be to spend these precious dollars with unprecedented accountability, responsibility, and transparency," he said.

__________________________________________

UH Helloooo... How is ramming this down our throats with no chance for the American People or our elected representatives
to try and decipher it "unprecedented accountability, responsibility, and transparency"?? We know they snuck the big rubber give away and San Fran mouse bailout back in. Transparency my a**

Posted by: Straightline | February 14, 2009 10:52 AM

60 to 38. In any "game" that's referred to as an A** KICKING.

OBAMA WINS.
GOP TALIBAN INSURGENCY LOSES.

Posted by: TOMHERE | February 14, 2009 10:49 AM

In regard to the $27.5 billion in the Stimulus bill for highways and other transportation projects, there is flawed legislative language that refers to "paragraph (b)" in section 133 of title 23 of the United States Code; whereas there is no "paragraph (b)" in section 133 of title 23, United States Code.

The legislative language should have read "subsection (b)".

Whether this clerical error and flaw will stop the use of the $27.5 billion for highway and transportation projects rests with the Federal Highway Administration and President Obama, whether they will overlook this flaw, or whether this flaw makes this part of the Stimulus bill not workable and the money cannot be spent, and this $27.5 billion cannot be used as stimulus money for highways and transportation projects in this bill.

[Reference: Congressional Record-House, February 12, 2009, page H1331, 3rd line below heading 'Highway Infrastructure Investment']

Posted by: steve_kirkikis | February 14, 2009 10:47 AM

"accountability, responsibility, transparency." Now where have we heard those words before?

Posted by: Tupac_Goldstein | February 14, 2009 10:43 AM

ATTENTION ALL AMERICANS!!!

PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO FRIENDS, RELATIVES, AND INTERESTED ACQUAINTANCES!!!

OBAMA PROMISED US THAT HE WAS GOING TO CRACK DOWN ON EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGALS!!

INSTEAD, OBAMA, AND THE DEMOCRATS, STRIPPED E-VERIFY FROM THE STIMULUS BILL!!

OBAMA LIED TO ALL AMERICANS!!!

DO NOT ALLOW OBAMA, AND THE DEMOCRATS, TO ELIMINATE E-VERIFY!!

E-VERIFY PREVENTS ILLEGALS FROM ILLEGALLY OBTAINING JOBS THAT BELONG TO AMERICANS!!

It is known that approximately 8.7 miillion illegals now hold jobs, within our United States, that they illegally obtained, using forged, and/or stolen identities. It is against our laws for an illegal to be employed, by anyone, anywhere, within our United States.

These are jobs that Americans will do. Jobs in construction, manufacturing, and food processing.

E-Verify will give these jobs back to unemployed American citizens.

The current unemployment rate among blacks is 12.6%

Blacks suffer the most from the many millions of illegals competing for the same jobs

In the last 22 years, since the Reagan one-time amnesty, over 26 million illegals have been apprehended, after they crossed the border into our United States.

UNITED STATES BORDER APPREHENSIONS (Source DHS/CBP)
1987--1,190,488------1995--1,394,554------2003----931,557
1988--1,008,145------1996--1,649,986------2004--1,160,395
1989----954,243------1997--1,412,953------2005--1,189,075
1990--1,169,939------1998--1,555,776------2006--1,089,902
1991--1,197,875------1999--1,579,010------2007----876,704
1992--1,258,482------2000--1,676,438------2008----723,825
1993--1,327,259------2001--1,266,213------2009----
1994--1,094,717------2002----955,310

However, less than 1, out of 4, illegals, crossing into our United States, are estimated to have been apprehended.

Lack of E-verify in the Stimulus Bill only entices even more illegals to enter our country!!

E-Verify will rectify this problem, but first, it needs to be enacted.

There are now 11.6 million unemployed American citizens, and that number is growing.

WE CANNOT ALLOW ILLEGALS TO TAKE, OR RETAIN, JOBS, THAT RIGHTFULLY BELONG TO UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS.

TAKE MATTERS INTO YOUR OWN HANDS AMERICANS!

BOYCOTT, PICKET, AND REPORT, ANY BUSINESS EMPLOYING ILLEGALS!!!

REPORTILLEGALS.COM - (866) 347-2423

TELL YOUR DEMOCRAT SENATORS, AND DEMOCRAT REPRESENTATIVE, TO:

MANDATE E-VERIFY FOR ALL EMPLOYERS, AND ALL EMPLOYEES, NOW!!!

OR ELSE!!

Toll Free Numbers For Congress 1-800-828-0498, 1-800-459-1887, 1-800-614-2803
1-866-340-9281, 1-866-338-1015, 1-866-220-0044, 1-877-851-6437

Direct Phone, and FAX numbers, and email addresses for Congress - http://tinyurl.com/dym2b

STOP THE DEMOCRATS FROM ENTICING EVEN MORE ILLEGALS TO INVADE OUR COUNTRY!!!

Posted by: buzzm1 | February 14, 2009 10:41 AM

Obama didn't create this mess. He inherited it from Republicans. Republicans have ZERO credibility when it comes to getting out of it. Excuse me, less than zero credibility.

All the Republicans can do is continue down their path of lies and deception and point their guilty fingers at the innocent.

Posted by: timothy2me | February 14, 2009 10:23 AM

I believe you need to check history. The present problem with the banks was created in 1999 when then Pres Clinton changed the law that FDR passed to prohibit the selling of the securities that crashed the financial markets. There is enough blame on both sides, with the absent Bush and the complacent Dodd and Franks. This was a accident that took ten years to mature.

Posted by: kabreu54 | February 14, 2009 10:39 AM

The Post Wrote: "Our goal must be to spend these precious dollars with unprecedented accountability, responsibility, and transparency," he [Obama] said."

Right Mr. President. The one word missing is 'credibility'. You can say anything on a Web site. If you ram-rod a bill through Congress and don't adequately fund the oversight provisions, none of the purveyors of this spendulus bill will accept responsibility, including you. You seem to think the more you spew out empty promises the more you'll be believed. We're just not that stupid. This bill should be called Porky.

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | February 14, 2009 10:39 AM

The Republicans have been useless in addressing the mess they created. Not a single Republican vote in the House and only three in the Senate. They have no new ideas and no real solutions. All they want is more tax cuts for people in the 10 and 15% tax brackets. Everything else is considered "wasteful spending." The three Bush tax cuts for the rich and the Iraq War were wasteful spending, but of course back in the day Republicans didn't care how much public money they heaved into the incinerator. Now they are suddenly fiscal conservatives again. Please. Give me a break. Some projections for Iraq have the U.S. maintaining 35,000 U.S. troops there in 2015 and beyond. Imagine how much that useless boondoggle will cost American taxpayers in blood and treasure.

Posted by: maxfli68 | February 14, 2009 10:36 AM

Fancy Pelosi... Lets see pay child support to ex...child goes to college... tax credit goes to ex wife... double taxation ...she gets credit on non income cash...

Posted by: robinhood2 | February 14, 2009 10:36 AM

Ah the latest Republican propaganda "talking point", no one read the bill.

This stimulus bill has been around long enough for anyone interested in it to read. Yes it has been changed and those changes are also available. Republicans are well aware of what was in it and what has been cut by their three "traitors" in the Senate. A 5% money cut that translates in to a 25% reduction in jobs to be created or preserved.

The Republicans here whining about it not being read should take note that the provisions that would teach their clowns in the House to be able to read have been cut. They can continue to wallow in their ignorance and warm their pew.

Posted by: timothy2me | February 14, 2009 10:34 AM

The comment blog spots (like this one)that litter the Internet have become the quintessential haven for the lunatic fringe of this country. What a conglomeration of short-sighted, intellectually deaf, and shallow thinkers on this site. There is nothing of substance here!


Posted by: Godhimself1 | February 14, 2009 10:30 AM

The Republicans were all in favor of spending $600 billion over the past six years to fight an unnecessary war in Iraq. But when it comes to helping people here in America cope with an economic catastrophe, suddenly they're deficit hawks. This is the worst kind of hypocrisy.


Posted by: pjkiger1 | February 14, 2009 10:28 AM

Bloggers wake up. This is not a republican/demarcate issue. The international bankers who are behind the crash (and more) want you to keep fighting, each party blaming the other. That way your attention is off of them, the true criminals and puppet masters. Follow the money. The money starts and ends with the banks. It doesn't matter if a democrat or republican is in office, look at the last fifty years and you can see that. The Federal Reserve is the enemy. Aim your guns at the right target. They control the printing of money, and greatly influence interest rates. Take back your country and urge your congressmen to abolish the Fed, and their strong-arm collector, the IRS.

Posted by: dreamtime | February 14, 2009 10:28 AM

Dreamtime,

You are advocating exactly the approach taken by Herbert Hoover during the Depression. This rightly lead to 20 years of Democratic Presidents in the Whitehouse, and several decades of Democratic Congresses. Economies can be stimulated back to life, and your analogy is completely flawed.Keynes was right, and Milton Friedman wrong. Get over it.

Posted by: orrg1 | February 14, 2009 10:25 AM

To everyone bashing the stimulus bill: I assume you're going to call your Senators and Representative and DEMAND they refuse any stimulus money coming your area?

Posted by: iacitizen | February 14, 2009 10:25 AM

Obama didn't create this mess. He inherited it from Republicans. Republicans have ZERO credibility when it comes to getting out of it. Excuse me, less than zero credibility.

All the Republicans can do is continue down their path of lies and deception and point their guilty fingers at the innocent.

Posted by: timothy2me | February 14, 2009 10:23 AM

Republicans are proving more and more how clueless and tone deaf they are. They are withdrawing into a tight bubble of fantasy. In 2010 there will be a lot more R's in Congress heading for the exits. And you can take that to the bank.

Posted by: orrg1 | February 14, 2009 10:21 AM

Why conservatives don't like Lincoln? I need your answers

Posted by: bluelagoon21 | February 14, 2009 10:21 AM

It's official! Our country has been taken over by even bigger idiots(crooks). 1000 pages in a bill with 10 hours to read = no body really knows what they voted for. Pelosi and Reid need to go. They are ruining our country. The only thing that each Dem read in the bill was the part about the pork they would get...then they voted yes. Quit talking about Bush because Obamas the one who shoved this down our throats and there is no way he even knows what is in it except that it gives government more contol. Obama is a decietful liar. This and the census shows a very scary peek at what is to come for the USA. Shameful.

Posted by: airslie51 | February 14, 2009 10:18 AM

This message is for all you naysayers who gleefully predict disaster.

When President Bush (whom I did not vote for) decided to invade Iraq, I thought, "what a huge mistake."

At the same time, I prayed to God to make good come of it and for history to prove me wrong. (I still pray for that.)

Every person of good will who loves his country should be praying (literally or figuratively) for this stimulus bill to help the millions of people who are suffering as a result of this economic crisis. If that is not where your hearts and minds are today, you need to take a good look at yourself and what you stand for.

Posted by: kjstjohn | February 14, 2009 10:15 AM

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 14, 2009 10:07 AM

Yes, Lets praise the Democrats!! They all voted for a bill that they never read. Legislation they NEVER read. This is the change that YOU idiots wanted. More welfare for the gimme gimme crowd. Just like that woman who wanted Obama to give her a house. Gimme a break!! Work for what you get and stop expecting the Federal government to support you.

Obama is a hollow shell and has limited success to fall back on. This too will fail!!

Posted by: kabreu54 | February 14, 2009 10:14 AM

This comment by Obama says it all: "Spending is necessary to jump-start the economy. But the country's "long-term" goal must be to tame the deficit." That's like a cocaine addict saying. "Taking this line (snorting cocaine) is necessary to jump-start myself. But my long term goal is to kick the habit." Man. Why not just kick the habit now by slashing the deficit? I’ll tell you why, because kicking the habit isn’t easy, yet eventually it has to be done and it can be done. Start with abolishing the IRS and changing our tax system so we are taxed on what we spend rather than what me make. Can you imagine how much each of us would be “stimulated” if suddenly our take home income went up by 20 to 30 percent average? Government interference got us into this mess. Remove the interference and the economy will take care of itself. Remove the drugs and the body heals. I guess that "Stimulus package" is the right term,. Like a drug it's going to temporarily "stimulate" the economy, only to have it crash again...really crash again.

Posted by: dreamtime | February 14, 2009 10:14 AM

"Democratic Voters".................You elected the Great Barack ,Now ,what you see is what you got. You emptied every flop house and homeless shelter in America to get the votes for him to win. Stop your whining ,you asked for it. To think that any human being ( supposedly the most intelligent animal on Earth ) with as much as one qubic inch of brain cells. Would cast his or her vote in favor or a piece of legislation they have never read. "Brilliant". Now we all can sleep better at night knowing that our Great Nation is in the hands of "Complete Idiots"

I am sure that every leader in the free world, and that part that isn't so free, are laughing themselves silly. To think "WE the People" have in our infinite wisdom. Placed into public office , as our representitives such a collection of uneducated , thoughtless , self centered ,Imperialistic ,egotists. Voting for this or any piece of legislation without debate or knowledge of content is "Criminal" and should be looked upon by every patriotic American as an act of "Treason."

May the Congress be damned. For such an absolute and blatant act of "UnAmericanism". May you pay the price as "WE" ,next go to the poles and demonstrate to you, what "WE' think of "YOU" and your less than stellar performance.... HW 02.14.09

Posted by: winterh111 | February 14, 2009 10:14 AM

THANK YOU DEMOCRATS!

Finally, you found the spine to get past the cheap thugs in the GOP to serve America! While the Republican politicians would literally do NOTHING to help the millions of Americans who are struggling in the Great Republican Depression, you have stepped up!

The GOP fiddles, looking for an angle to sucker ignorant voters with, as the fire they set to the economy burns...

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 14, 2009 10:07 AM

Enjoy your 4 years, cause thats it after this mess. Back to the shoddy Il. politics for ya

Posted by: deputy68 | February 14, 2009 10:00 AM

Heehee.

How does it feel to get rolled over? :-)

Get on board or get out of the way.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | February 14, 2009 9:58 AM

Call me Fishmeal.

The stimulus plan may be a plan but it will not work. It's a bad idea. Middle class, grab your ankles and bend over as usual.

Posted by: AbolhassanBaniSadr | February 14, 2009 9:54 AM


Obama/Stimulus = Bush/Iraq

You think that Americans would have learned from the las crisis rammed down our throats without a defined plan.

Posted by: mgd1 | February 14, 2009 9:54 AM

Dear President Obama and Secretary Geithner,

If you want to fix the banks, first fix the real estate market. Once that happens the banks will fix themselves. The toxic assets will detoxify themselves due to increased value.The fastest way to solve this crisis is to get investors involved in some fashion. They have the cash on the sidelines to get us out of this crisis. If we give them an incentive to purchase property they will and that will stabilize prices saving families and jobs.


There should be a zero % capital gains tax on any property purchased during the next year no matter when you sell it. This should only be on new purchases to help absorb some of the high housing inventory. Investors will buy properties and make things happen. This is a win win situation because no homes are selling anyway so there is no capital gains tax lost. Also there should be a rapid depreciation for tax purposes of 2 years on investment property. This was done after Katrina for counties in MS, AL, and LS. (called the GOZONE ACT) and should be done nationwide to stimulate demand and reduce supply which will help save the economy.
Once home prices are stabilized the jobs will return and the economy will recover. It might be difficult to get the republicans to go along with this because it will clearly be extremely effective and the Dems will gain seats in 2010 And You Mr. President will be re-elected in 2012.

Posted by: chuchu1248 | February 14, 2009 9:52 AM

President Obama, a transparent and honest President would insist that every member of Congress and Senate read the 1100 page Stimulus Bill and to put it on the internet for the American people to digest. There should be conversation and compromise out of full disclosure. Your rushing causes me to pause and mistrust you. Why are you on FIRE to get the bill signed, what is in there that you don't want us to know. How many favors do you owe. Oh, I voted for you out of contempt for George Bush. What I should of done was trust the integrity of Senator McCain because he may be a Republican but he is a Maverick. I hope the Republicans, Independents, everyone investigates your every move because I believe you are a wolf in sheeps clothing. Stop wasting gas, we are a poor nation. Use internet, you have conquered that medium.

Posted by: virgosiempre | February 14, 2009 9:51 AM

The stimulus plan,for the painful present, is a hopeful idea. Evanthough it's worth a lot of money, but he says: "Our goal must be to spend these precious dollars with unprecedented accountability, responsibility, and transparency." Since he says that the money is for a good cause, we shall see how far the plan goes. Other than that, I wish him the best of luck, and continue on what he thinks is best.

Posted by: chaniquafrazier | February 14, 2009 9:47 AM

Hey Dems...GREAT JOB! Way to promise that Americans would be able to see just what the heck you got us into by posting it online for 48 hours. WAFJ. Keep it up Pelosi and Reid...you'll be out in 2 years. Disgusting.

Posted by: zap123 | February 14, 2009 9:43 AM

I can answer that, yeahright1: it'll bring more workers to these shores in the form of H-1B visas and will also subsidize the employment of illegal immigrants along with everyone else. So it may increase employment, but will dilute the effects of that increase greatly.

Posted by: billmosby | February 14, 2009 9:42 AM

To all of you Republican supporters who said NOTHING while the Republican controlled Congress and Senate wrote Bush blank check after blank check that got us into this mess.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It's about time intelligence came back to the White House.

Go Obama!

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | February 14, 2009 9:40 AM

My only question about the stimulus law is which will come first: spending the money involved, or finding out what all the provisions of the law are (let alone its myriad interpretations)?

Posted by: billmosby | February 14, 2009 9:38 AM

At Dawn We Slept, All Day Too....

Posted by: sapperinthewire | February 14, 2009 9:37 AM

Is there anything in this 1000+ page spending bill addressing bringing back jobs from overseas? I have yet find a congressional or senate office that can answer this question.

Posted by: yeahright1 | February 14, 2009 9:36 AM

Congratulations President Obama!

Don't let the nattering nabobs of negativity bring you down. We've got your back - while the conservatives try to stab it.

Posted by: ElrodinTN | February 14, 2009 9:25 AM

So the Obama administration has pushed through Congress its $800 billion deficit-spending economic stimulus plan, BUT the American public is largely unaware that the true deficit of the federal government already is measured in trillions of dollars, and in fact its $65.5 trillion in total obligations exceeds the gross domestic product of the world.

The total U.S. obligations, including Social Security and Medicare benefits to be paid in the future, effectively have placed the U.S. government in bankruptcy, even before new continuing social welfare obligation embedded in the massive spending plan are taken into account.

Congratulations, "Mr. Messiah" - you and your DIMocrat/Commie friends have succeeded in destroying the USA.

Posted by: segeny | February 14, 2009 9:15 AM

ATTENTION ALL AMERICANS!!!

PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO FRIENDS, RELATIVES, AND INTERESTED ACQUAINTANCES!!!

OBAMA PROMISED US THAT HE WAS GOING TO CRACK DOWN ON EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGALS!!

INSTEAD, OBAMA, AND THE DEMOCRATS, STRIPPED E-VERIFY FROM THE STIMULUS BILL!!

OBAMA LIED TO ALL AMERICANS!!!

DO NOT ALLOW OBAMA, AND THE DEMOCRATS, TO ELIMINATE E-VERIFY!!

E-VERIFY PREVENTS ILLEGALS FROM ILLEGALLY OBTAINING JOBS THAT BELONG TO AMERICANS!!

It is known that approximately 8.7 miillion illegals now hold jobs, within our United States, that they illegally obtained, using forged, and/or stolen identities. It is against our laws for an illegal to be employed, by anyone, anywhere, within our United States.

These are jobs that Americans will do. Jobs in construction, manufacturing, and food processing.

E-Verify will give these jobs back to unemployed American citizens.

The current unemployment rate among blacks is 12.6%

Blacks suffer the most from the many millions of illegals competing for the same jobs

In the last 22 years, since the Reagan one-time amnesty, over 26 million illegals have been apprehended, after they crossed the border into our United States.

UNITED STATES BORDER APPREHENSIONS (Source DHS/CBP)
1987--1,190,488------1995--1,394,554------2003----931,557
1988--1,008,145------1996--1,649,986------2004--1,160,395
1989----954,243------1997--1,412,953------2005--1,189,075
1990--1,169,939------1998--1,555,776------2006--1,089,902
1991--1,197,875------1999--1,579,010------2007----876,704
1992--1,258,482------2000--1,676,438------2008----723,825
1993--1,327,259------2001--1,266,213------2009----
1994--1,094,717------2002----955,310

However, less than 1, out of 4, illegals, crossing into our United States, are estimated to have been apprehended.

Lack of E-verify in the Stimulus Bill only entices even more illegals to enter our country!!

E-Verify will rectify this problem, but first, it needs to be enacted.

There are now 11.6 million unemployed American citizens, and that number is growing.

WE CANNOT ALLOW ILLEGALS TO TAKE, OR RETAIN, JOBS, THAT RIGHTFULLY BELONG TO UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS.

TAKE MATTERS INTO YOUR OWN HANDS AMERICANS!

BOYCOTT, PICKET, AND REPORT, ANY BUSINESS EMPLOYING ILLEGALS!!!

REPORTILLEGALS.COM - (866) 347-2423

TELL YOUR DEMOCRAT SENATORS, AND DEMOCRAT REPRESENTATIVE, TO:

MANDATE E-VERIFY FOR ALL EMPLOYERS, AND ALL EMPLOYEES, NOW!!!

OR ELSE!!

STOP THE DEMOCRATS FROM ENTICING EVEN MORE ILLEGALS TO INVADE OUR COUNTRY!!!

Posted by: buzzm1 | February 14, 2009 9:14 AM

...the greedy pigs are being shoo'd away from the hog trough finally...

...and once the bill is signed their squealing will begin in earnest...

...it has already started here...

...bacon anyone?...

Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 14, 2009 9:11 AM

This stimulus package will become known in history as the "Great Rape of America" and the demise of free enterprise. Both George Bush and Obama can take the credit, and it will eventually become a black and white issue.

Posted by: GordonShumway | February 14, 2009 9:10 AM

"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. ... I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started ... And an enormous debt to boot!"
-FDR's Treasury Secretary, Henry Morgenthau

Posted by: mongoose1 | February 14, 2009 9:04 AM

How can he hail it when he has not even had time to see what is in it? I had high hopes for this President but they are rapidly fading.

Posted by: HockeyMike351 | February 14, 2009 9:02 AM

Clinton misled us on so many things with his thousands of campaign promises, but overall had a pretty smart economic endeavor as President....

Then there is Barack Obama, his whoppers are so outlandishly ridiculous... he is just the biggest Liar ever to be elected president.

It's not even a question of buyers remorse, his actions show criminal disregard for truth in government

Posted by: LeftWingNutt | February 14, 2009 8:57 AM

The stimulus is a risk for both sides. Obama and the Dems now own the economy as the stimulus will be expected to turn things around almost immediately (the GOP will not let them forget that point...).

For the GOP, they have become the party of "no" and blatant obstructionists to anything not matching the strictest interpretations of conservative dogma. The public will rally behind them if the stimulus tanks, but there's a better chance of the GOP continuing to erode support among moderates and swing voters who supported anything besides tax cuts.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | February 14, 2009 8:09 AM

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