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By Anne E. Kornblut
President Obama warned the nation's governors not to play politics with the stimulus package on Monday -- telling a group of state executives in a meeting at the White House that they should have an "honest debate" about the $787 package rather than claiming certain small components of the bill are wasteful.

One day after Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal appeared on "Meet the Press" to declare his disdain for the spending package, Obama said: "If we agree on 90 percent of this stuff and are spending all our time on television arguing about one, two, three percent of the spending ... that starts sounding more like politics." Jindal and some other governors have said they will not accept components of the spending plan for their states because of the regulations attached.

"There's going to be ample time for campaigns down the road," Obama said at the White House meeting, in his opening remarks. Jindal is among those present. After the beginning comments, Obama cleared out the press so that he and the governors could, he said, have an open exchange.

Obama hosted the governors at a dinner -- his first formal dinner at the White House -- on Sunday night, telling them that they are "where the rubber hits the road."

"And so our goal and aim is to make sure that we are making life easier, and not harder, for you during the time that we're here in Washington," Obama said.

Posted at 10:57 AM ET on Feb 23, 2009  | Category:  Barack Obama
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racam:

If Obama was literally dumping $787 billion in to the Pacific Ocean, that would be O.K. with you too?

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 2:35 PM

JRM2:

Dr. Rice used the "mushroom cloud" analogy. We don't know, yet, if Obama's predictions are just as false ; )

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 2:32 PM

I think that the slogan 'Remember the Alamo' should come in second only to 'Remember the Republican Governors'. At least Obama is trying to help, the Republicans are doing everything in their power(what little is left) to disrupt the only hope that our country has. Someone yesterday said that Democrats should give up hating Bush. I don't hate Bush, I only hate what he did to our country. He has divided the country like no other person in the history of The United States.

Posted by: racam | February 23, 2009 2:32 PM

"Seems that you left wing nuts are running what you accused republicans of: Fear. "
Posted by: romeror2k | February 23, 2009 12:36 PM
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The distinction is that Bush's "mushroom cloud" speech turned out to be false and subsequently did great damage to our nation including economic damage.

Obama telling us that we are in very bad times just so happens to be true.

What would you rather have, a President that lies to you or one that tells the truth?, or perhaps one that will say: "The fundamentals of the economy are strong" while the system collapses around him/her?

Posted by: JRM2 | February 23, 2009 2:30 PM

da-weanie:

These bills are getting passed WITHOUT Republican support (you aren't suggesting that Snowe, Collins, and Specter stay home, right?). Their salaraies would have to be paid regardless.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 1:49 PM

BB:

Now if I could just get you on board the Tax Revolt for W-4 filers ; )

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 1:47 PM

JakeD

Actually, we could save even more if the Republican minority would just stay home, since they are useless anyhow.

Posted by: daweeni | February 23, 2009 1:44 PM

Jake - I agree on that--he was addressing Democrats (as opposed to the Democratic Party).

It just seemed about as on-topic as posting about radiation weaponry.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 23, 2009 1:37 PM

BB:

Thanks for that last message, an enjoyable read. Who draws the line where is the age-old question isn't it?

To get back on track: I really wonder what President Obama and the governors said to each other behind closed doors.

Posted by: Ittai | February 23, 2009 1:21 PM

jdcw: Re Florida and Crist - what Florida needs in an income tax. It simply cannot balance the books otherwise. It has a nice budget deficit due to foreclosures (#2 in the country) and the resulting non-payment of real estate taxes and high 8%+ unemployment. Funny we should have these problems considering we are a "low tax" state and according to the GOP we should be doing just fine.

The lack of an income tax results from a constitutional amendment sneaked in by the local gentry in the 1930s (you know, that FDR and his commie friends were gonna take it all!).

The problems in Florida results from those really making money who pay virtually nothing to support the state while old retired folks and low wage earners pay a large percentage of the regressive property and sales taxes.

Florida is #50 in spending per student in its schools. Its state college system is deteriorating rapidly (except for sports of course). Millions of its low wage earners have no health insurance. There is very little left to cut from the state budget.

Obama's stim money closed the gap until maybe things get better.

We'll take the money.....even though every Florida Republican house member and one senator voted against it.

Posted by: toritto | February 23, 2009 1:21 PM

hfisher1:

Obama was barred from becoming President, and that didn't stop him.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 1:20 PM

BB:

For what it's worth, buzzm11 used the word "DEMOCRATS" (as a noun) correctly. He / she may live in a State / district with every elected federal representative being a DEMOCRAT.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 1:19 PM

The republicans are criminals. Just read Rep. Clyburn's comments how the hypocrite Bobby Jindal screams loudly about the stimulus while calling Congress on the side to beg for relief money. Sanford and Barbour are even worse, declaring that they will not accept the stimulus money that applies to unemployment, only that which benefits business.

The rotten, criminal republicans should count themselves lucky that Arnold Schwartzenegger is barred from running for president. He is a pragmatist, and short of being a Democrat, the perfect governor for California. But to the republicans, he is not sufficiently conservative because he actually is concerned for ALL Californians, and not just the low-quality, ossified right-wing social moralists that pass for republicans these days. They are a collection of sh!t-birds who should be drowned in their bathtubs.

Posted by: hfisher1 | February 23, 2009 1:16 PM

An OPEN LETTER to the Governor Perry of Texas:

The DFW metro area deserves a circular METRO line which should be over encompassing the DART lines.

Twin cities the size of Dallas and Fort Worth deserve a circular metro line with connecting spokes in sync with our population from the green money allocated in the stimulus budget.

When are we going to grow out of the restricted DART mentality? My native country is India. I was visiting New Delhi recently and was impressed by their huge Delhi METRO project underway to be operational by 2011.

If India, a Third World developing nation, can do it in Delhi why can't the US do it in DFW???? Why can't twin cities the size and importance of Dallas and Fort Worth have a METRO line we can be proud of.

I live in Garland city and commute to Fort Worth daily spending an hour each way and gas for 40 miles each way. Why can DFW not have a METRO like all other big US cities? I did not get an answer while observing the big Delhi Metro project coming online nor have I an answer commuting 80 miles daily in DFW.

Especially having seen the escalating summer gas prices that are bound to come back and haunt us AGAIN!!!

Posted by: ajain31 | February 23, 2009 1:16 PM

cashmere1 or es55375:

If Obama's "plan" was to dump $787 billion in cash in to the Pacific Ocean, would it be O.K. to criticize that?

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 1:12 PM

buzzm11 - Exactly how are you one of my constitutents? You have one representative, two senators (unless you live in DC), and one president. You are their constitutent, not the entire DemocratIC party.

Mind you, I'm all for more stringent enforcement of employment. The woman who takes care of our children is legal and we withhold taxes legally. Are you willing to e-verify YOUR baby sitter? How about the kid down the block who mows the lawn? A neighbor who helps you fix the door? (a couple of beers is payment in kind and therefore reportable income)

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 23, 2009 1:11 PM

r(ed)harring:

Why did Bush push for the first bailout bill if he thought "everything was fine"? Try getting out more. At the very least, Bush admitted that his trading Sammy Sosa was a "mistake" ; )

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 1:07 PM

We have five Republican governors so far who are talking against the Stimulas Plan....Jindhal, Barbour, Pawlenty, Sanford, and Palin. I would not vote for any governor or Congressman who is against Obama's Plan to help Amricans get a job or even to survive. If only people would stop playing politics and get down to the business of supporting our president in this severe economic crisis, we would recover a lot faster.
Republicans want Obama to fail. If he does, it will be because you didn't help him to succeed, placing yourselves above the country......and WE WON'T FORGET!

Posted by: cashmere1 | February 23, 2009 1:07 PM

After 9/11, we have a home land security crisis and Bush called those who opposed the Iraq War 'unpatriotic.' And the critics kept quiet.

So what is the difference?

Posted by: ea55375 | February 23, 2009 1:06 PM

jaked,

You should ask Bush, he was the one who thought everything was fine. When asked he couldnt even think of one mistake. Even though his mistakes are now biting us in the a@@

Posted by: rharring | February 23, 2009 1:03 PM

JakeD: No, in fact I'm not. I am just putting together pieces of information gleaned very unscientifically from the media and drawing a highly subjective preliminary conclusion. If you take Gore Vidal's Lincoln somewhat seriously and you think how President Obama seems to have sought his (Lincoln's) influence you may recall that any number of cabinet members in Lincoln's day thought they were going to see him out of office. But I am not conspiracy theorist. I just think that politics involves getting into positions of power and that we may be so mesmerized by the superficial political talk we might forget that.

What I really believe, however, is that at this time it is important for our democracy that the Republicans act like a responsible, credible opposition party and President Obama has to be assertive towards Democrats in the House of Representatives where need be. In this regard he may have to be a little less likeable.

Posted by: Ittai | February 23, 2009 1:01 PM

I was simply pointing out provo1's logical fallacy.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:59 PM

Cities with the worst-educated citizens vote Democratic too
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Shouldn't that be "least educated" citizens?

I mean, get it? (And I'm the last one who should be critiquing...).

A pretense toward intellectualism isn't intellectualism.

Which is OK, here, where it doesn't matter, but when it's in the White House or Pentagon or god help us, the Fay-Ray CIA war room, we, as a nation, are f*cked.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | February 23, 2009 12:56 PM

r(ed)harring:

What ever happened to "The Buck Stops Here"?

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:54 PM

Lets see under Dubya, our national debt was doubled while the GOP ran all three branches from 01-07 and spent like drunken sailors. Now that Obama wants to focus on problems in our country and not Iraq suddenly the GOP has a problem. You can kiss 10 and 12 goodbye. When the economy turns around we know who helped and who didnt. These jokers are why i voted Dem for the first time in my 30 years of voting..........

Posted by: rharring | February 23, 2009 12:53 PM

provo1:

Cities with the worst-educated citizens vote Democratic too. The base of the Democratic Party is found in those on government assistance, and Obama is trying his hardest to expand that base.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:51 PM

Sybil2000:

I am registered Independent. According to Obama, however, this is the worst economic crisis in American history -- regardless of what Bush and the Republicans did, Obama's is charge now -- maybe he should trim closer to home too:

http://theintrepid.blogspot.com/2008/11/how-much-does-it-cost-to-operate-white.html

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:49 PM

States with the best educated citizens vote Democratic. The base of the Republican party is found in states whose students have the lowest educational test scores. In comparison to Democratic states, these states dedicate a much smaller percentage of their budgets to public education.
Governors from Mississippi, Louisiana and South Carolina choose not to make long term commitments to public education because they do not want to reduce the size of the Republican voting base.

Posted by: provo1 | February 23, 2009 12:48 PM

Ittai:

Are you referring to a particular Democrat who is Obama's most dangerous opponent?

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:47 PM

The Republicans are just bad losers.They are trying to throw everything on Obama.If they were showing that many outrage during this past 8 years of Republican George Bush may be we could avoid a deficit of 9 trillon dollars.If they hate spending how did they get us into this deep hole? Fix the problem or shut up and let someone else do it.They know how to do it because they fixed it before.

Posted by: Sybil2000 | February 23, 2009 12:44 PM

stodayxx:

No, they are all doing the right thing in refusing a small portion which would change State unemployment law and end up costing MORE in the long run.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:44 PM

jaked: It's amazing how the sun continues to rise even after Obama was elected!

Here in Florida we have sane governor who will gladly take the money!!
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It makes me laugh when I read Democrats applauding Charlie Crist.

Most people would be horrified to know that Crist was cutting property taxes and other taxes while Florida was spending every penny of the Housing bubble profiteering.

Now Florida wants the rest of the country to fork over $18 Billion.

Plus, Florida really has the Federal taxpayer on the hook if a Katrina type hurricane hits this year. Crist has used the state hurricane funds.

Posted by: jdcw | February 23, 2009 12:44 PM

This must be the flying-shoe blog. One man's politics is another man's open debate. When confusion reigns, we all get wet.

It is never too late for the Republican opposition to criticize substantively Democratic policy initiatives and legislation. I heard Governor Jindal on NPR and he sounded considerably more moderate than some of the "voices" here. I think it might not be a bad thing for him and other governors to turn down funds. I look forward to following the consequences of such state policies.

Regarding "politics", however, my own feeling is that there are probably more people on both sides of the aisle with a vision of themselves taking the oath of office to become president in 2013 than is apparent at the moment. And I am not sure that it is Republicans who are President Obama's most dangerous opponents.

Today's flop is the platform for tomorrow's successor.

Posted by: Ittai | February 23, 2009 12:44 PM

daweeni:

Very funny (NOT!)

Obama will spend more running the White House this year than illegal aliens send back to Mexico -- why doesn't he just stay in D.C. rather than flying all over the place -- maybe if people like you weren't so misinformed, we could fix the problems in this country.

http://whitehousetransitionproject.org/resources/briefing/Patterson-Cost%20of%20WH.pdf

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:42 PM

The most prominent, and outspoken governors opposing the stimulus are from welfare states that already take more from the public trough than they contribute:
in 2005 : South Carolina got $1.35 back from the Feds for every dollar contributed in taxes. Mississippi - $2.02. Louisiana, $1.47
All of them are hypocrites.

Posted by: stodayxx | February 23, 2009 12:39 PM

buzzm11 wrote: "It is widely known that there are over 8.7 million illegals working at jobs within our United States; jobs that they illegally obtained by using forged, and/or stolen documents."


Just show us your source for this claim. And since you are unable to do so, please take a look at your racist, xenophobic self in the mirror.

Posted by: swatkins1 | February 23, 2009 12:38 PM

toritto:

Obama is not blaming Bush, is he?

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:36 PM

To davidbronx:
Seems that you left wing nuts are running what you accused republicans of: Fear. It seems that any criticism of the Obamanation is deemed as bigotry. When did being black make you immune from criticism or being made fun of. Where were you when Jesse Jackson called New York "heimy town". The Republicans did offer up ideas for the bill, but were rejected by Pelosi's adamant desire to spend money on useless things, and pander to nuts like you

Posted by: romeror2k | February 23, 2009 12:36 PM

The only way this country will pull out of this mess is to end taxes on the wealthy (who have stopped creating jobs as it isn't worth it to them to try to make money), get unemployment up to a point where the military won't have to offer bonuses to get people to enlist (which will mean a great savings in government spending on defense), and remove all these hand-holding government programs that take the incentive out of working as hard and long as you possibly can (and this means letting hospitals turn away people who can't afford care, since keeping them going is just a drain on resources that should be going to people who work hard enough to pay - why should they pay a premium to help keep people they don't even know alive?).

Here's a perfect example of the unseen problems of well intentioned government spending: if Congress hadn't wasted so much money on the GI bill, after WWII, we wouldn't have had all those over educated working class people leaving industrial jobs, and with a bigger pool of labor to exploit, American industries wouldn't have had to run off to find cheap labor elsewhere. Wouldn't this country be better off if our workers were in Mexico, sending money back here, than having all of our dollars heading the other way?

Posted by: daweeni | February 23, 2009 12:36 PM

Well, well, well! The dems hate criticism. I believe what the dems hate is the 10.5 trillion debt left by the Bush administration. I believe the recovery plan passed by congress is an attempt to correct the total devastation in the world economy left by the Bush administration. I believe the GOP was given every opportunity to help in drafting the recovery plan. For all of you incredibly brilliant economic commenter's, keep your day jobs, if you still have one after Mr. Bush left us where we are today.

Posted by: prwolfe | February 23, 2009 12:35 PM

jaked: It's amazing how the sun continues to rise even after Obama was elected!

Here in Florida we have sane governor who will gladly take the money!!

Makes me laugh...Louisiana, Mississippi and South Carolina......three of the poorest states in the union.....rejecting money. Oh well, guess they are still run by the local aristocracy.

:-)

Posted by: toritto | February 23, 2009 12:35 PM

LISTEN UP DEMOCRATS!!!

It is widely known that there are over 8.7 million illegals working at jobs within our United States; jobs that they illegally obtained by using forged, and/or stolen documents.

FOR THE GOOD OF AMERICAN WORKERS, AND ALL AMERICANS, WE WANT OUR LAWS ENFORCED, AND WE WANT E-VERIFY MANDATED FOR ALL EMPLOYERS, AND ALL EMPLOYEES.

WE, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND VOTERS, WILL NOT BE DENIED!!!

Posted by: buzzm11 | February 23, 2009 12:33 PM

Spending is stimulas, but does building roads, bridges and schools, employ small business owners? I believe the stimulas should have been targeted better. This will help,but will not stimulate small business.

Posted by: rellis7415 | February 23, 2009 12:32 PM

Warning the Republican governors not to play politics and to be honest with the stimulus is like warning the pigs not to slobber and squeal.
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Have you heard a song called "Wild Hog Hop," by Bennie Hess?

When I hear it, I always think of my special someone...

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | February 23, 2009 12:31 PM

toritto:

What ever happened to "The Buck Stops Here"?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/02/23/on_budget_a_split_personality.html

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:31 PM

"President Obama warned the nation's governors not to play politics with the stimulus package on Monday -- telling a group of state executives in a meeting at the White House that they should have an "honest debate" about the $787 package rather than claiming certain small components of the bill are wasteful."

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Yep, the devil is always in the details. It's easy to get people to get people to agree to a broad general concept like "change" but people will complain as soon as they know what that actually entails.

Posted by: wolfcastle | February 23, 2009 12:29 PM

Warning the Republican governors not to play politics and to be honest with the stimulus is like warning the pigs not to slobber and squeal.

Posted by: TalkingHead1 | February 23, 2009 12:27 PM

Heehee.

Billions for banks but god forbid we have to extend unemployment benefits during tough times.

"Let them eat cake!"

:-)

Posted by: toritto | February 23, 2009 12:27 PM

jdcw:

Facts won't stop Obamaniacs.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:25 PM

tepexpan and OneStop1:

According to Obama, this is the worst economic crisis in American history -- regardless of what Bush did, Obama's is charge now -- maybe he should trim closer to home too:

http://theintrepid.blogspot.com/2008/11/how-much-does-it-cost-to-operate-white.html

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:24 PM

To cshotta1. You're a waste of sperm. Repeating Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck gobble-dy gook makes you look the worthless American fool that you are. What a waste of sperm.

Posted by: ScottChallenger | February 23, 2009 12:23 PM

"cschotta1" Funny how the Republicans turn to bigotry and hatred when they don't get their way. The real CHIMP was George Bush and his zoo keepers who ruined our economy with the the Iraq war! When Curious George was president we heard from people like cschotta1 who wanted us to respect a man who had lied to us outright to start an illegal war but now bigots take their cues from the New York Post. All I see from the Republicans and their followers are accusations and criticism but no good suggestions and they tend to forget again, that it's the REPUBLICANS who ruined our economy and our country and what they consider patriotic is trying to derail anything the current administration does. Politics is all the Republicans and conservatives know how to play, actually doing something positive for our nation seems to be out of the question. It's no wonder that the GOP is no longer in powers, hateful and greedy.

Posted by: davidbronx | February 23, 2009 12:23 PM

Yeah Einstein, Bush couldn't help but wonder why an area crime ridden like New Orleans, governed by a democRAT with a democRAT mayor, would have such ignorant citizens too stupid to evacuate, too stupid to know you can do better without the government
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Hey, guy, don't let the situation push you toward a stroke!

Not worth it, you know!

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | February 23, 2009 12:22 PM

tony_in_Durham_NC:

Maybe Bush would have done that, but he's no longer around for your side to blame. President McCain, Vice-President Palin, and Treasury Secretary Romney wouldn't have to hold a "Fiscal Responsibility" Summit today and the Dow Jones wouldn't be at it's lowest level since 1997.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:21 PM

Bush and the Republicans would have just flown over America and watch it sink.

Just like they did during Katrina.
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What happened to the $185 Billion in taxpayers money spent on aid to Katrina victims?

Is that just flying over?

Posted by: jdcw | February 23, 2009 12:21 PM

Hypocrites this bunch of republicans. During the PORK tenure of the Bush administration none of this governors refuse to take my tax dollars to build bridges to no where, South Carolina, Louisiana and other republican politicos should ask their constituent decide to accept or reject the financial help, I have driven trough the roads of Louisiana, and I can say they are the worst roads I have aver driven.

Posted by: tepexpan | February 23, 2009 12:20 PM

Didn't Obama win the election?

Posted by: Buckeye7 | February 23, 2009 12:19 PM


Bush and the Republicans would have just flown over America and watch it sink.

Just like they did during Katrina.

G'Obama!

__________________________________________

Yeah Einstein, Bush couldn't help but wonder why an area crime ridden like New Orleans, governed by a democRAT with a democRAT mayor, would have such ignorant citizens too stupid to evacuate, too stupid to know you can do better without the government. New Orleans is a prime example of what happens when you let liberals run everything. But yes, to small minded libs like yourself, it's always Bush's fault. I honestly feel sorry for miserable POS libs like yourself, waking up depressed every day, knowing you elected a chimp to the White House, knowing he will fail like liberalism always does.
"Imagine no liberals, what a wonderful world it would be!"

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 23, 2009 12:19 PM

If I am not mistaken, George Bush extended unememployment benefits and I don't recall little, well-to-do, Bobby Jindal refusing "republican UI." Now, he has a problem receiving UI benefits from a democrat. As for the additional folks who may be eligible under the new funds, UI is a program, governed by state law, each state addresses everything from the benefit amount to eligibility different. If he afraid he cannot control his state legislature?

The act also includes funds for summer youth jobs, but no one is suggesting that those funds be rejected fearful that some federal summer youth jobs manddate will return.

Hopefully, folks in these states have long memories and kick he rest of them out in 2010 and 2012.

People need these benefits, the southern repbulicans vying for President should be ashamed of themselves. By the way, when was the last time a southern republican was nominated by their party for the Presidency?

Posted by: OneStop1 | February 23, 2009 12:19 PM

The Republicons are such a joke their way or the highway their way got us into this put politics aside grow up and help Obama fix it you guys work for the American taxpayer not the republicon party

Posted by: lildg54 | February 23, 2009 12:19 PM

What will the Governors do in 3 years when the Federal money runs out, but the new expanded state services still need funding?

You can't stop a government service once it's started.

Posted by: jdcw | February 23, 2009 12:18 PM

schrivener50:

It's not "A GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE OPERATION" -- you simply can't spam the threads with the same post repeatedly -- just because you're paranoid, though, doesn't mean that Obama isn't out to get you.

pookiecat:

Gov. Jindal is going to refuse the $100 million which would change State unemployement law and end up costing MORE than $100 million in the long run -- he's going to accept the rest -- get your story straight.

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 12:17 PM

But the poser is the last to know, which is no surprise, given the lack of true acheivement and true intellect behind him.

; )

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Yeah, I think Obama (and I don't like or trust him for many reasons) is striving to try to get it right, which is more than I can say for the rest. It doesnt help he unfortunately has surrounded himself with some truly sub-par people.

Eliot Spitzer seems to have a grasp of the issues, (and I'm sure others in Congress do too), but the rest pose, simply a mouth piece for the business people who paid for their Congressional seats.

And this being a very real situation, their delusions and incompetence are harming the US in a very tragic way, their inabilty to decipher the truth of this situation very harmful to everyone's health.

It's my impression they can't really understand or see consequences, very incompetent and stupid people relying on tracked systems of thought, simple pretensions toward intellectulaism as opposed to the real thing, unable to solve problems.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | February 23, 2009 12:15 PM

I would love to see Bobby debate the chimp on the stimulus bill, without telepromters, line-by-line. Atleast with Bobby he's earned his position, unlike the Messiah, who's relied on a voting block of welfare cheats who realize voting democRAT will mean less work, more benefits, and yes, they won't have to pay their mortgage. Say "NO" to affirmative-action, say "NO" to B. Hussein Obama.

Posted by: cschotta1 | February 23, 2009 12:15 PM

GOVERNORS:

Here's a phrase that must re-enter the American debate as unfunded mandates and federal directives on subjects from law enforcement to capital spending become more commonplace:

STATES' RIGHTS.

********************************************

ATTEMPTED POSTS TO WA-PO POLITICAL BLOGS CONCERNING RADIATION WEAPONRY -- INTENDED FOR THE NATION'S GOVERNORS -- APPARENTLY ARE BEING WITHHELD/CENSORED BY A GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE OPERATION.

If this is happening to me, it may very well happen to you next.

Please read about it at this ACLU.org link:


http://blog.aclu.org/2009/01/26/internet-filters-voluntary-ok-not-government-mandate

http://www.NowPublic.com/scrivener


Posted by: scrivener50 | February 23, 2009 12:12 PM

Bush and the Republicans would have just flown over America and watch it sink.

Just like they did during Katrina.

G'Obama!

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | February 23, 2009 12:12 PM

Playing politics with the stimulus is exactly what the empty suit is doing,. If you liberal nitwits don't understand that, keep drinking the kool aid. You deserve it.

Posted by: LarryG621 | February 23, 2009 12:12 PM

I wish my Republican Governor HAD said no. I don't care if we don't get a dime here in Florida just so long as we don't have to pay any back.

Posted by: cathyjs | February 23, 2009 12:10 PM

Apparently, the good poeple of Louisiana don't need the stimulus, according to their illustreous governor Jundal. Fine, Mr. Governor, teel those people, face-to-face, especially those in the 9th Ward in New Orleans, that this is all a big waste of money and violates your "core conservative principles". Just like most "R" people, you're just a lying phony who could care less about people. All you care about is lining your pockets with lobbyist money. It's time to recall Governor Jindal, our new slumdog millionaire.

Posted by: pookiecat | February 23, 2009 12:09 PM

Postfan1 got it right: "Funny. If you agree with provisions of the stimulus, it's "honest debate". If you fault some of it's wasteful provisions, it's "playing politics"."

Obama and the Left are amazingly sensitive to criticism, aren't they? For all their bravado, I don't think they have a clue about what they're doing.

Mad Cow Hilary undoes years of consistency on human rights in a single trip. Did Obama approve that? I doubt it. Hilary is running her own show - and still running for President. Add her to the other appointment fiascos, a Stimulus Bill written by Pelosi, and hyperventilation when anyone dares to question yet another
Administration mis-step. These are not the actions of a confident leader. Who is in charge? Obama looks like a very weak President.

Posted by: hill_marty | February 23, 2009 12:09 PM

Obam wants an honest debate NOW?
This is an absolute comedy!

Posted by: chatard | February 23, 2009 12:09 PM

But the poser is the last to know, which is no surprise, given the lack of true acheivement and true intellect behind him.

; )
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Are you speaking of Jindal?

Posted by: bernie51 | February 23, 2009 12:05 PM

...and the Gov Jindahl is merely a pawn of the Republican Party which is suddenly on an agenda to add some color to their party...

...and it is all a big show because to the Republicans people aren't people, they are merely numbers and statistics and they see that the new Earth Americas President Obama is very popular and he has some color in his skin...

...and so the Republicans see it as a 'strategy' so they suddenly have all these people with color in their skin speaking for them...

...ie MD Lt. Gov. Michael Steele and this Jindahl guy from Louisiana...

...and so Jindahl is their 'great black hope' at the moment because the Republicans see that as the 'strategy', and because he really ain't black, and because he talks fast like the machine gun lips of the WASAMI, moreso then does Steele...

...and if it wasn't Jindahl or Steele then it would be Eddie Murphy playing the part of a Republican...

...because the show must go on...

Posted by: moon-base-alpha | February 23, 2009 12:03 PM

All the slander in the world did the Dems throw at Bush; now the shoe is on the other foot. The Dems hate criticism - they can't be wrong about anything because they think they have the higher ground in morality, intelligence, ethics. Too bad, Dems - if
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It really isn't Dem, or repup, now is it?

The guy who said he was a conservative before he got laid off and now supports the stimulus really doesn't understand
the stimulus won't help him, is of extrememly limited value to the average person. And Obama's actions with the banks will only worsen the problem.

There isn't a solution yet because they really dont seem to understand the problem, a victim of the mediocre solipsism which caused this crisis.

It's laughable, for all their big b*lled posturing, they simply don't get it.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | February 23, 2009 12:02 PM

Each state with an insurgent Republican Governor or Senator should not receive a penny of stimulus funds, or hold elections so that the people can decide, not some partisan hacks who only helped Bush dig the hole-to-china we are in.

Posted by: jfern03 | February 23, 2009 12:00 PM

I thought the Republican mantra was "deficits don't matter."

Oops, that was then (when the deficits were to give tax breaks to their ultra wealthy campaign contributors), but this is now (when the deficits are to pull the entire country out of trouble).

Posted by: StanKlein | February 23, 2009 11:56 AM

All the slander in the world did the Dems throw at Bush; now the shoe is on the other foot. The Dems hate criticism - they can't be wrong about anything because they think they have the higher ground in morality, intelligence, ethics. Too bad, Dems - if you can't stand the heat then get the heck out of the kitchen and let responsible people take back the Presidency and not welfare-loving college professors....

Posted by: steven7753 | February 23, 2009 11:55 AM

I oppose the stimulus package based on my conservative core principles ... limited government, personal responsibility blah, blah, blah ... wait, I just got news that I got laid off... now I'm FOR the stimulus package, so I can keep my family off the streets ... LOL

Posted by: steel33 | February 23, 2009 11:54 AM

Okay... This has to be said. There is NOTHING in the stimulus bill that goes to ACORN. The Neighborhood Stabilization Act is used by housing authorities and redevelopment agencies (local government in most cases) to purchase and rehabilitate houses in blighted neighborhoods. It is an effective program and has zero to do with ACORN. This whole ACORN thing is a lie on top of a lie. ACORN helps people get registered to vote, they are not a housing or redevelopment authority. Also, on the suspect voter registrations that ACORN turned in.. They were required to do so by law! They told the registrar that the registrations were suspect. You right wing jokers have no problem lying, as is evidenced by the fact that Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly, Ingram and Savage have all repeated these lies.

Posted by: KurtOvermeyer | February 23, 2009 11:51 AM

Watching 'Bama take Jindahl to the woodshed is pure comedy. Looks like the GOP will have to go back to the well for the next wonderboy cause Bobby's dog won't hunt.

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I dont know.

It's easy to play big, tough man when you think you have protection.

When you start to understand you don't, the poser is exposed, imemdiately.

Right?

But the poser is the last to know, which is no surprise, given the lack of true acheivement and true intellect behind him.

; )

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | February 23, 2009 11:50 AM

It won't be long before opponents of this stimulus package will begin to see how many millions of people are being helped across the United States.

Already I'm hearing Republicans in my family saying they know members of our family that will be helped. And they are also sheepishly wondering out loud if they qualify for help.

Eventually word will get out that millions are being helped. Once it becomes clear that millions of Americans are benefiting from stimulus money, it will be difficult for Republican governors and politicians to continue to reject stimulus money for the citizens of their state who are mad that they aren't being allowed to participate in this or that program, while the people in the state next door are benefiting from the provisions their governor rejected.

So let Republican politicians posture now while they still can. Their posturing will eventually become laughable when they are forced to retract their early stand against stimulus money. With so many people being helped, it will be hard to argue the stimulus package is a failure.

Posted by: jeffersun | February 23, 2009 11:47 AM

Like the man said, the republicans are BRAGGING that they want Obama to fail. Therefore, the want AMERICA to fail. Now anyone who wants AMERICA to fail is our ENEMY.
Jeb Bush - "We need a shadow government."
Dick Cheney - "America will be attacked."
Osama Tex Sessions - "We need a Taliban Insurgency."
WHERE IS THE THREAT TO AMERICA.
IT IS FROM WITHIN.
I call on President Obama to launch a full-scale investigation into those who want AMERICA TO FAIL.
OUR ENEMIES MUST NOT PREVAIL.
We must do whatever it takes to stop them COLD.

Posted by: TOMHERE | February 23, 2009 11:44 AM

It's pretty funny reading silly comments like:

Watching 'Bama take Jindahl to the woodshed is pure comedy. Looks like the GOP will have to go back to the well for the next wonderboy cause Bobby's dog won't hunt.

Libs are so besides themselves because the Bama won 53% of the vote. I love how the Bama one day is Lincon the next FDR. He looks like the next Carter to me...

Posted by: restonhoops | February 23, 2009 11:44 AM

Well, they really need to stick together, this is hardly the time to be playing politics, a time of true crisis, the US facing bankruptcy because of the actions of a few.

The last thing anyone wants to hear is "You're on your own, you have no protection, you certainly don't stand with us."

; )

The truth is so hard to cope with, isn't it?

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | February 23, 2009 11:43 AM

"Obama Warns Govs. Against Playing Politics on Stimulus"

Yes, playing politics on the stimulus is Obama and Emmanuel's job!

Posted by: pgr88 | February 23, 2009 11:43 AM

President Obama showed Jindal who's the boss. Now Jindall looks weak and petty. He's no match for Obama.

Posted by: jwoods3 | February 23, 2009 11:42 AM

Postfan1,

Refusing to pass legislation and refusing to accept funds is different than simply faulting "some wasteful provisions." If they have concerns, they should voice them and work with the Democrats to re-work the legislation, but dragging their feet on legislation that could stave off a depression constitutes politics pure and simple.

Posted by: davisjp23 | February 23, 2009 11:42 AM

LOL!

Posted by: JakeD | February 23, 2009 11:40 AM

The GOP looks content to bring this great nation to its knees and drive us back to the stone age. Traitors.

Posted by: hiberniantears | February 23, 2009 11:40 AM

let me see....mississsippi and louisiana, two of the poorest states in the union have the audacity to turn down unemployment money to help their own poor people, stinks like politics to me

Posted by: mzzmo | February 23, 2009 11:38 AM

"It's all about corrupt Chicago style politics."

Golly! If Chicago style is corrupt, just think what politics is like in Jim Crow states, where disenfranchising voters is an art form.

Posted by: provo1 | February 23, 2009 11:38 AM

Obama warns governors not to play politics with stimulus bill. Hillarious. The so called stimulus bill is 100% politics. It is one big payoff to Obama's core constituency groups like welfare moms whom he paid off by reversing President Clinton's effective welfare reform that brought the number on welfare from 12 million to 5 million and his payoff of $4.1 Billion to his little brown shirt organization ACORN whose motto appears to be "Vote early vote often death is no barrier to voting."

Good for the Governors for doing what is right for the people of their states instead of supporting stimulus package charade Obama's Tony Rezko Ron Blagojevich Memorial Pay to Play Payoff Stimulus Bill.

Posted by: msmithnv | February 23, 2009 11:36 AM

Same old con job by the scam artists, otherwise known as the GOP.

Posted by: kevin1231 | February 23, 2009 11:36 AM

Screw ‘em, if they don’t want the money for their states, give to states that can use it. IMHO, Mississippi should be the absolute LAST state to turn anything down given how bad it’s been for YEARS in that state!

Posted by: 82AllAmericans | February 23, 2009 11:34 AM

WATER RUNNING UPON DESERT

We have the same a point of view with the NGA chairman, Gov. Ed Rendell said Sunday: " Although the stimulus program is a great first step, we want to impress on the President that it's only a first step. We need to plan for the future, for the next 5 to 10 years."
As for us, we think that the stimulus plan is like water running upon desert.

Posted by: huytu-4w_ed | February 23, 2009 11:34 AM

Who is complaining? Southern Republican Governors who see the money going to the lower middle class. I don't know what the upper class in those areas are worried about. They'll get their hands on the cash soon enough. Need I say more?

Posted by: glenglish | February 23, 2009 11:30 AM

"Ballooning Deficits". Hmmm.... Never heard of that before. Must be a new problem since Jan 20, 2009 ;-)

Posted by: cpatwork | February 23, 2009 11:28 AM

Thank God Gov. Jindal and the rest of the Southern governors have finally found religion on this issue. The South has been America's welfare project for the last century. I cannot recall the last time those states saw less than $1 in federal money for every $1 of federal taxes they pay.

Turning down federal money? Thank heavens and good riddance.

Now focus on paying the rest of us back for the 100-or-so years that you do-nothings have been on the dole!

Posted by: dsk36 | February 23, 2009 11:28 AM

"No Governor -doing his duty - can accept federal funds if the strings attached would override a State's existing laws!!"

Like Title IX funding? How about the drinking age? It's 21 because the federal government, i.e. Congress, threatened to pull all highway funding if a state didn't change its drinking age. Think before posting.

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | February 23, 2009 11:26 AM

Republicans have already declared their determination to see the Presidency fail. Whether it is the stimulus bill, the budget, anything and everything, they will continue to insist that tax cuts and no regulations are the solutions.
It will be interesting for the American people to watch them at tomorrow night's Congressional address when they insult the President in front of the whole world.

Posted by: cms1 | February 23, 2009 11:26 AM

I read that the only part of the stimulus money that Jindahl was turning down was the extension of unemployment benefits.

Way to look out for the little guy, Bobby!

Posted by: mikeinmidland | February 23, 2009 11:25 AM

Obama is playing politics! No Governor -doing his duty - can accept federal funds if the strings attached would override a State's existing laws!!
Obama would hope to run the country - much like Chavez - but it hasn't happened yet!!
This Happy Little Spending Train is about to run off the rails!

Posted by: thornegp | February 23, 2009 11:22 AM

LarryG621,

You must be suffering from amnesia. Was it not George Bush and the 6 years GOP congress's economic philosophy that us all into this mess?

President Obama is trying to fix the problem and there you are raining insults on him. Have you seen his approval rating?
I bet you have

Posted by: waleosofisan | February 23, 2009 11:21 AM

The "Great George W. Bush Recession" is worsened because Bush and his Republican friends doubled the deficit to over $10 trillion. Now, they want to pretend they care about deficit spending. Doesn't pass the sniff test.
Republicans are actually BRAGGING that they want President Obama to fail. You know that his job is to return prosperity and peace to all Americans. The GOP wants America to fail. Why? Purely for Republicans' own political benefit. The two year election is over. We said yes to Mr. Obama. Republicans have decided to say "NO" to Ameica's successful future with the hope that by making things worse they can get back into power.
They were in power the last eight years, and look what happened: Bush LOST two wars: He failed to kill Bin Laden in Afghanistan; in Iraq there are two new enemies that weren't there before the invasion, Iran and Quieda, neither of which would have dared go there when Saddam was in charge. Because of Bush and Cheney, America is LESS safe than before 9/11.
Despite hefty tax and other government revenues Bush and friends spent $5 trillion MORE than they took in. We don't need any advice from those who gut us into this mess.

Posted by: skeetchamp | February 23, 2009 11:20 AM

Not really...you can have an honest debate about the virtuous of spending but focusing on 1% of the overall package while agreeing to receive 99% of the stimulous for your state then that's dishonest.

Posted by: ovwong | February 23, 2009 11:19 AM

Watching 'Bama take Jindahl to the woodshed is pure comedy. Looks like the GOP will have to go back to the well for the next wonderboy cause Bobby's dog won't hunt.

Posted by: bob29 | February 23, 2009 11:18 AM

Governors would never play politics when it comes to money.

Posted by: Jaymand | February 23, 2009 11:16 AM

What a crock. Small parts are wasteful? It's all pork and political payoffs. This nitwit and his cabal don't have a clue about economics. It's all about corrupt Chicago style politics.

Posted by: LarryG621 | February 23, 2009 11:13 AM

Right on! Many of these "conservative" governors are just playing politics by focusing on 1% of the overall package and the MSM is playing along by highlighting their arguments without challenging them.

We just had an election and Obama won easily. These governors who are looking to challenge him should know that there will be plenty of time to play politics but not one month after an election.

Posted by: ovwong | February 23, 2009 11:12 AM

Funny. If you agree with provisions of the stimulus, it's "honest debate". If you fault some of it's wasteful provisions, it's "playing politics".

Posted by: postfan1 | February 23, 2009 11:12 AM

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