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Obama to Meet with Terrorism Victims and Families

By Michael D. Shear, Peter Finn and Dan Eggen
President Obama will gather tomorrow with victims and families of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and U.S.S. Cole bombing for a face-to-face meeting as his administration struggles to decide how to handle detainees at Guatanamo Bay, Cuba, several of those invited said.

The previously undisclosed meeting at the White House tomorrow afternoon will give the new president a chance to explain his decision to close the controversial prison facility where the U.S. has placed many suspected terrorists since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Obama has been assailed by conservative critics who say the decision to close the facility within a year will lead to putting many of those terrorists back on the street. In a recent interview, former vice president Dick Cheney, an architect of the Bush administration's war on terror, criticized the decision as reckless.

In an interview with Politico.com, Cheney accused the Obama administration of following "campaign rhetoric" on Guantanamo and warned that the new president's policies could put the country at greater risk of a new attack.

"When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an al-Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry," Cheney said.

Obama has defended his decision, saying that closing the facility will make the country safer by putting an end to one of the most controversial symbols of the U.S.-led war against terrorism. He said that symbol has helped terrorists recruit new volunteers.

One 9/11 activist, who declined to be identified talking about the meeting, said "fireworks" are likely at the gathering because it will include both relatives who oppose and those who support Obama's plan to close Guantanamo Bay. "There's been some noise that some families don't like the idea and others do, so this is a chance to discuss that," the activist said.

Jim Riches, a retired New York firefighter whose son, Jimmy Riches, died in the 9-11 attacks, said in an interview Thursday that he wants to hear directly from President Obama what the government intends to do with the prisoners.

"I want to know, are they going to drop the charges? Are they going to try them in another court?" he said. "I want to let them know that these men are dangerous."

Riches praised Obama for agreeing to a meeting so soon after taking office.

"The issue tomorrow is what are they going to do with those detainees. We want justice for the ones that said they did it," he said. "Some people may say it's a political move. But I want my voice to be heard. It's a sign of an open door policy, and that's good."

Obama aides did not respond to questions about the meeting. The administration may want to impress on families that they are not dropping charges against alleged terrorists, including Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks who is facing capital charges in Guantanamo, and that he and others will be brought to justice.

Obama had instructed military prosecutors to seek a 120-day continuance in the military commissions in Guantanamo Bay while the administration studied how to handle the approximately 245 detainees at the facility when the prison in Cuba is closed. In an executive order, Obama said the prison should be closed within a year.

But the request for a stay was rejected by the chief military judge in Guantanamo, who decided to proceed with the arraignment Monday of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, who is accused of organizing the 2000 attack on the U.S.S. Cole.

The refusal by Judge James Pohl, an Army Colonel, has left the administration with little choice but to withdraw the charges "without prejudice" against Nashiri, a procedural move that allows the government to halt proceedings without reference to the judge.

The administration has yet to act in the case, and Friday's meeting may, in part, be to explain that the charges can be reinstated at a later date in some reformed military commissions system. The tactic was also used by the Bush administration when it wanted to stop various proceedings in Guantanamo. The Pentagon has dismissed without prejudice charges in six cases, and reinstated them later in three of those cases.

If Nashiri, a Saudi facing capital charges, pleads guilty Monday, he could box in the administration as the legal principle of double-jeopardy would apply and it would be very difficult to move his case to another court, according to defense attorneys.

Withdrawing the charges against Nashiri could also trigger a withdrawal against all 20 other detainees currently facing trial in Guantanamo. Defense lawyers said they would insist that all detainees be treated equally during the review process.

The president may also want to explain some possible alternative to military commissions, including moving proceedings to federal court or military courts martial.

The relatives of 9/11 victims have divided along somewhat partisan lines in the seven years since the attacks, with some strongly supporting Bush's policies and others growing increasingly dismayed by the direction of U.S. counterterrorism efforts. As a result, Obama's plan to close Guantanamo Bay prompted differing reactions among various
groups.

September 11th Advocates, for example, issued a statement last month praising Obama's announcement and calling Guantanamo "an enormous stain on America's reputation."

"The temporary halting of proceedings at Gitmo gives us the 'audacity to hope' that President Obama will be able to restore America's good name, which has been repeatedly tarnished during the past eight years," said the statement from the group, which is led by four New Jersey widows of 9/11 victims. "We appreciate the tough decisions that President Obama has been forced to make and admire him for taking these difficult tasks on."

A group called 9/11 Parents and Families of Firefighters, by contrast, questioned Obama's decision to suspending the trials of several detainees while he maps out the closure of Guantanamo Bay. "We cannot understand why it has taken so long for the prosecution of the detainees in cases where substantial evidence exists of direct or
indirect involvement in the terrorist attacks" of 9/11, the group said in a Jan. 25 statement.

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The democrats created the housing problems. They act like they just arrived from the moon to save the world. The fact is that they were in charge of Congress and many of them made millions of dollars in the Sallie Mae and Fannie Mae fiasco. Now, they are spending trillions of dollars that we do not have and creating a new welfare society. This time they also inviting everyone to cross the border into our Country and be a part of the welfare society.
They are asking the taxpayers of this country to finance health care and benefits to people that cross the borders into our country illegally. Of course, the majority of Democrats refuse to pay taxes and they do it only if they get appointed for a position where that law breaking attitude will be visible.
Now they are also showing their real intent to end the WAR ON TERROR and to transform our country into a sanctuary for terrorists and miss fits. They do not care for one minute on the countless lives of Americans that have been assassinated and whose rights were not taken into account for a second.

Posted by: uzanabria1 | February 7, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

The democrats created the housing problems. They act like they just arrived from the moon to save the world. The fact is that they were in charge of Congress and many of them made millions of dollars in the Sallie Mae and Fannie Mae fiasco. Now, they are spending trillions of dollars that we do not have and creating a new welfare society. This time they also inviting everyone to cross the border into our Country and be a part of the welfare society.
They are asking the taxpayers of this country to finance health care and benefits to people that cross the borders into our country illegally. Of course, the majority of Democrats refuse to pay taxes and they do it only if they get appointed for a position where that law breaking attitude will be visible.
Now they are also showing their real intent to end the WAR ON TERROR and to transform our country into a sanctuary for terrorists and miss fits. They do not care for one minute on the countless lives of Americans that have been assassinated and whose rights were not taken into account for a second.

Posted by: uzanabria1 | February 7, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Amazing how fearful and tiny some folks can be. Of some 600+ alleged "worst of the worst" at Guantanamo, perhaps 3 or 4 have been adjudicated as guilty of SOMETHING (though not necessarily terrorism, or even violence), and hundreds released without charge.

Get a clue. Most of these detainees are no threat to anyone (or they weren't, anyway, before the Bush regime rounded them up and imprisoned them for years without charges).

What happened to American conceptions of justice? If justice isn't IMPORTANT to some of us, what is it they think we are "defending"? The "right" to be loud and ignorant?

Posted by: Observer44 | February 6, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

MR. PRESIDENT: WE, THE VICTIMS OF GOV'T-SPONSORED DOMESTIC TERRORISM, WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU, TOO.

THE BUSH-ERA "EXTRAJUDICIAL PUNISHMENT NETWORK"
REMAINS IN PLACE... RUNNING "MULTI-AGENCY ACTION" OPERATIONS AGAINST AMERICANS CLASSIFIED AS "DISSIDENTS," "TROUBLEMAKERS" AND "DEVIATES."

THIS SHADOW GOVERNMENT POSES A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER TO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND TO THE OBAMA PRESIDENCY.

THE ROGUE OFFICIALS AND OPERATIVES BEHIND THESE "PROGRAMS OF PERSONAL DESTRUCTION" MUST BE REINED IN AND REMOVED FROM POWER.

The Bush-Cheney "multi-agency action" extrajudicial vigilante network and its related unconstitutional array of "programs of personal destruction" remain in place.

President Obama may not even be aware of some of the deeply entrenched "ops" that threaten his presidency...

... The "multi-agency action" nationwide army of "community stalking" citizen vigilantes hiding behind federally-funded volunteer organizations;

... the deployment of radiation weaponry to police departments nationwide;

... and the multi-agency unconstitutional programs -- ranging from pervasive spying to a parallel system of transaction processing that amounts to fascistic theft by deception -- must be taken down.

Immediately. Before more damage is done.

Before another "generated crisis" claims the renewed American spirit and again plunges the nation into despair and submission to "the dark side."

The agencies of government that are covertly commandeering this devolution of American democracy -- via their draconian "multi-agency action" programs -- must be reined in and reformed, top to bottom, never again to subvert the rule of law.

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-targets-terrorizes-u-s-citizens

http://my.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame

OR http://My.NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | February 6, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Some one upstream said Obama has shown class since day one - I think they mean to say he showed his, eh, not class, something lower because Obama has no class. He is a Chicago politician with all that implies. He will not be able to sweet talk the Cole family victims any more than he can sweet talk thinking Americans about closing Gitmo. Strange, but after two weeks thinking people know we need a new president and change we can really believe in.

Posted by: Reisrrk | February 5, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

When I see Dick Cheney it frightens me. It frightens me because an over whelming fear that the child molester moved in, right next door. We moved and the abuser moved and they haven't caught him yet. He hasn't been rehabilitated he is still the creepy next door neighbor whos disease is to hurt and frighten children.

Posted by: bdrevers | February 5, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

"I want to let them know that these men are dangerous."

Perhaps he can provide the evidence that the Bush administration has been unwilling to present.

Posted by: edlharris | February 5, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama:I Know My Song Well Before I Sing It,

Posted by: hankomatic1 | February 5, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

SOME POSTER TO THE 9/11 VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES:
"No disrespect to them. But they are far from the only victims of violence in this country. "
The victims and their families of the USS COLE are also victims.

Who else has suffered violence at the hands of jidadists in the United States since 9/11.

Your post is most disrespectful. It is also putrid.

Posted by: mharwick | February 5, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Why are people still perpetuating the falsehood that it was something other than a plane (i.e. a missile) that hit the pentagon. Let me try to end any uncertainty here. I was in a building facing the pentagon on 9-11. I saw the plane flying. I saw the plane hit. There are no questions it was a plane. And even if I didn't see it with my own eyes, where did all those people go who were lost on that plane? They were real people with real families? Where did that plane go? Just vanished? I can't believe people buy this crap.

Posted by: CNY-DC | February 5, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA WILL TRY TO SWEET TALK HIS WAY OUT OF HIS RASH ACTIONS CONCERNING GITMO TRIALS. WHAT HUBRIS THIS NEW PRESIDENT WITHOUT EXPERIENCE OR RESUME HAS!

Charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri dropped "without prejudice"
Move done to comply with President Obama's ruling to shut Guantanamo Bay
Al-Nashiri can be re-charged later; all Guantanamo cases now on hold

Posted by: mharwick | February 5, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I think it's time for "The 9/11 Family Show" to be retired.

No disrespect to them. But they are far from the only victims of violence in this country. Closing Guantanamo is not the only good idea here, so is removing the pedestal from under these people.

Posted by: dubya19391 | February 5, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I applaud President Obama for going to talk to and listen to the 911 families. I am sure he will treat them with the respect they deserve. If I lost a loved one that day I would want some answers too. Like where's the evidence a plane hit the pentagon? Why were there demolition charges in the Twin Towers and who put them there? Who knew about the attacks ahead of time and warned *important* people; who benefited (wall st)? What about WTC7?

Cheney is trying to confuse the issue with Guantanamo. Many of those "captured" were snitched out by neighbors when the US came around with $$. The only thing some were guilty of was being a male between the ages of 15 and 55. Cheney has to cause controversy to deflect attention away from him and his activities on 911. God forbid, but if another attack occurs the investigation should look directly at him.

Posted by: dsul93 | February 5, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama will use his charm and charisma to keep these families from speaking out in the media against his interference with the prosecutions. The USS Cole defendant was about to go on trial and Obama ordered it stopped in its tracks and now the presiding Judge is forced to dismiss without prejudice. That Obama is interfering with the process that now includes a military trial and habeas corpus is foolish. Ordering GITMO closed before he knows where to place the inmates is cart before the horse.
Catering to the liberals who care more for the jidadists comfort than they do for those who have to face and fight them everyday is disgusting.

Posted by: mharwick | February 5, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Outrageous to use these people for PR work.

Posted by: playfair109 | February 5, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Something else the WP is too afraid to publish:

One week after the U.S. Army announced record suicide rates among its soldiers last year, the service is worried about a spike in possible suicides in the new year.

The Army said 24 soldiers are believed to have committed suicide in January alone -- six times as many as killed themselves in January 2008, according to statistics released Thursday.

The Army said it already has confirmed seven suicides, with 17 additional cases pending that it believes investigators will confirm as suicides for January.

If those prove true, more soldiers will have killed themselves than died in combat last month. According to Pentagon statistics, there were 16 U.S. combat deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq in January.

"This is terrifying," an Army official said. "We do not know what is going on."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/05/army.suicides/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

If you can't figure out "what is going on."
you haven't been paying attention for the last six years.

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | February 5, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he can have Kahlid Sheik-Mohammed, Nashiri, and the boys over for tea and cookies next week to explain his plan to them too? Outrageous!

Posted by: DaMan2 | February 5, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

In an interview two weeks after leaving office, former Vice President Dick Cheney predicted a “high probability” of a nuclear or biological attack in the next few years and said the Obama administration was approaching a “tough, mean, dirty, nasty business” of keeping the country safe from terrorists too timidly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/us/05cheney.html

I think Dead-Eye-Dick has shown how insane he really is. He needs to be committed!

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | February 5, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

February 5 2009

On this day, in Washington DC, President of the United States Barack Hussein Obama surrendered to enemy forces located in Guantanamo, Cuba, and the Queda terrorist groups they represent, without resistance.

Posted by: georgejones5 | February 5, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

DaMan2, nice try! Maybe you should put away your tarot cards and Ouija board and try some reality.

Dumb@ss Republitards.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | February 5, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama is going to try to isolate, divide, and then play the families to try to limit negative PR (this is right out of his neighborhood activist handbook using the tactics he learned from Saul Alinsky). His actions show he cares more about the terrorists than the innocent victims of 9/11 and their families. Shameful and a sad day for the country.

Posted by: DaMan2 | February 5, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

hclark1: No, it's just anothe bad day for a loser like you.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Republitards like you are the only losers there are these days since your party got schooled in November 2008. Poor child; I guess you have to think for yourself now.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | February 5, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the first mistake by Cheney and Dubya was not declaring war on the organization al-Qaeda and not the fanatsy "war on terror" this allows you to keep them as legitimate POW's untill the war is formally called to an end.

Posted by: writedave | February 5, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

hclark1: No, it's just anothe bad day for a loser like you.

As to Cheney: Who gives a damn what this odious, corrupt war criminal thinks about anything? Obviously this sub-human didn't get the message: Most of America intensely dislikes you and never wants to see or hear from you again.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | February 5, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

The worst day for the DEMOCRUDS was the day they told BUSH and CHENEY and RICE and the others that AL-QUAIDA IS PLANNING ATTACKS and they sat there and did NOTHING.
NOTHING
NOTHING
NOTHING
BECAUSE THEY KNEW 9-11 WAS COMING.
They didn't know HOW BAD IT WOULD BE.
BUT...........
THEY LET IT HAPPEN.

Posted by: TOMHERE | February 5, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding with the headline to this article? "Obama to Visit Victims, Relatives of 9/11 Attacks"? Who are the relatives of the attacks?

Posted by: whoodat77 | February 5, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I agree in principal with the decision to close Guantanamo, but I can't agree with the decision to do so without a plan outlining the disposition of these cases. The Bush administration failed to get this done quickly, resulting in a firebrand for terrorist recruitment and hard feelings worldwide. Hopefully, Obama will be able to tell the victim's families about how he plans to accomplish this, and we'll get to hear about it in the next few days.

And for losthorizon10, I'd submit to you that although the 9/11 attacks took place 8 months into Bush's administration, the Al Queda planning for these attacks udoubtedly took place before he took office. Perhaps Bill Clinton's rheotoric about "bringing those responsible to justice" just wasn't taken seriously by radical Islamists after his non-action following the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the 1998 embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya, and the 2000 U.S.S. Cole incident. Bush didn't engage in such pleasantries; he simply took the battle to our enemies and, right or wrong, seriously damaged their organization. His mistake was to let the "justice" part of it drag on for 7 years after the fact.

Posted by: EddietheInfidel | February 5, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

How's about meeting with families about to lose their homes. The 9-11 stuff is way overdone.

Posted by: Maddogg | February 5, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Shameful!

Just like he assumed the mantle of Black Slavery, when he had NOTHING in his background involving any of it;

He is now assuming a role in the events of 911, he had NOTHING to do with!

These people were captured in the fields of Afghanistan, not New York!

Just trying to POSE!

Posted by: SAINT---The | February 5, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

simonbm,
Really,
Then how do you explain the previous attack under Clinton.

Maybe it is time to just put the blame where it belongs and admit radical Islam are murderers.

Posted by: dottydo | February 5, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Another really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS !

Posted by: hclark1 | February 5, 2009 5:57 PM

---------------------------------------

An even worse day for people that don't have the sense of mind to figure out that we are all in this together!

Posted by: chefra | February 5, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Obama should tell Bush and Cheney to go tell tehse same peopl why they didn't spend too much time thinking about Bin Laden.

Obama is 1,000 times better than Bush; and he hasn't been in office for a month yet.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | February 5, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

At least Obama is not flying in a plane to meet any of them.

All day long the "Hussein is on the plane" thing has been out there.
One joke says he is randomly flying back and forth trying to get up his nerve....

No further statement after the word nerve...
leaves one to wonder if he is getting his nerve up to meet these people.....
to remain in office...
or something else.
or

Posted by: dottydo | February 5, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama need to view the tapes of the estimated 200+ Americans that had make a nightmarish decision to jump from the WTC or burn alive on 9-11-2001.

Posted by: mpg515 | February 5, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

He should explain to them that GITMO will be close and Bush and Cheney will be occupying the jail since they are the authors of 9/11

Posted by: simonbm | February 5, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh my God. Now I'm a DEMOCRUD.
I am just so pathetic loser, like gingrich said.
I am so stupid to support the stupid obama.
I should have voted for palin.
what the help what i thinkin'
I must be dumb or somethjing.
I hope Obama fails.
i hope americuh fails.
I hate america.
I hope it all goes to help.

Posted by: TOMHERE | February 5, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

If Bush and Cheney had been half as effecitve at fighting this war as they have been at using it to raise political funds and mouth off about it, Iraq would be the 51st state and Bin Laden would be dead.

And hclark1, if you were any stupider you'd be a plant.

hclark1 wrote:
Another, really - really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.
Posted : 1/7/2009 1:13:10 PM

hclark1 wrote:
Another, really - really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.
Posted : 1/7/2009 1:10:04 PM

hclark1 wrote:
Another, really - really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.
Posted : 1/7/2009 1:02:52 PM

hclark1 wrote:
Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.
January 6, 2009 2:33 PM

hclark1 wrote:
Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.
Posted : 1/6/2009 2:41:47 PM

hclark1 wrote:
Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.
Posted : 1/6/2009 2:38:36 PM

hclark1 wrote:
Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.
Posted : 1/5/2009 2:33:47 PM

hclark1 wrote:
Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS
Posted : 1/5/2009 2:23:07 PM

Another, really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS.
Posted by: hclark1 | January 6, 2009 2:46 PM |

Posted by: Attucks | February 5, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Bush released 61 inmates from Gitmo that latter committed more terrorist crimes... strange but true...... actually not that strange considering it was Bush in charge.

Posted by: PitsandMcGoo | February 5, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

70-75 percent of the questions posed by the non-partisan 9/11 Family Steering Committee (FSC) were not answered by the 9/11 Commission in its Report.

Some of these unanswered questions raise important issues with the Bush administration's prosecution of the so-called "War on Terror" and are being addressed now by our new President. However there is much more that he and the Congress must answer still regarding the 9/11 attacks.

A great place to start to examine the flawed and compromised 9/11 Commission and the case for a new investigation is a documentary I helped produce, 9/11: Press for Truth, which secured interviews from four members of the Family Steering Committee, three of whom became known as the "Jersey Girls" due in part to the reporting of Gail Sheehy of Vanity Fair.

Learn more here:
http://www.911pressfortruth.com

Rent it from Netflix or download it from iTunes.

Posted by: khence | February 5, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

It is press worthy to have the cameras on Obama when he is roasted by these great Americans.

He seems to have a bad temper that pops out if people disagree with him.

Obama apparently suffers from Narcissistic personality disorder sometimes referred to as self Love, sometimes self infatuation.
They just can not stop assuming their opinion is what everybody else should have. And, if they do not. Then they are just not right.


This could be Obama's great reveal.

Posted by: dottydo | February 5, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Sorry-Kubrik-but Obama, is again, following Bush's lead-Bush met with the family members one on one on a number of occasions-so that's not extraordinary in the least-but it is a good political move on his part-in order to explain his thinking.

Posted by: Spring_Rain | February 5, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I think it's great that President Obama is meeting with the families of those killed on 9/11, on George Bush's watch, as he and his administration ignored NIB's about "Al Qaeda determined to attack U.S."

The legacy of George Bush's incompetence must have been very hard for them to bear, as he lied us into an unnecessary war in Iraq, while these families waited for Justice, and waited for bin Laden to be captured or killed. They must have hope now that we have a smart, competent president!

Good for President Obama, and America!

Posted by: losthorizon10 | February 5, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

President Obama has shown class since day one of his administration. This is a great gesture on his part, to meet the 9/11 families face to face. And Dickie Cheney has done more to create new terrorist then to abolish. Thank God the Bush era is over.

Posted by: kubrickstan | February 5, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Another really - really bad day for the DEMOCRUDS !

Posted by: hclark1 | February 5, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

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