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On Interrogation Policies, Another Delicate Compromise From Obama

By Ben Pershing
When it comes to dealing with the perceived sins or flaws in the policies of his predecessor, President Obama has worked to appease his supporters without necessarily giving them all that they want.

He relaxes Cuba policy, but won't get rid of the embargo. He talks about the importance of immigration reform, but won't do it this year. He institutes a tough ban on lobbyists in his administration, then grants exceptions. The pattern holds as Obama has grappled with President George W. Bush's most controversial legal policies; Obama has repudiated many of Bush's actions even while frustrating his supporters on state secrets, warrantless wiretapping and "rendition" of terror suspects.

Yesterday, Obama attempted his latest high-wire act. The Justice Department released memos detailing brutal interrogation methods used by the CIA, even as Obama said that the CIA operatives who used the methods would not face prosecution. The release comes after a heated internal debate at the White House, and the morning after, it appears that no one is completely happy with the compromise.

Liberals and civil rights groups believe Obama is waffling on a defining moral issue. How, Glenn Greenwald asks, can officials tasked with enforcing the law simply ignore it when the politics get tricky? Conservatives, meanwhile, are happy that there won't be prosecutions at the CIA, but two writers who have a unique perspective on the issue -- Michael Hayden and Michael Mukasey -- say the memos' release "was unnecessary as a legal matter, and is unsound as a matter of policy." More broadly, Victor Davis Hanson complains, Obama "proclaims no more of George W. Bush's 'War on Terror,' even as he silently keeps most of it in place. The result is as confusing as it soon will be dangerous."

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"Unexamined life isn't worth living." Socrates

You hypersensitive babygirlmen bigots need to get over yourselves. Read some in-depth opinions on things you oppose, but don't know a damned thing about.

Read "Hegemony or Survival" or "Shock Doctrine" or "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" if you're not 'fraidy cats who don't know how to read, or to think. Otherwise, you don't know a damned thing about what you're saying, and you are contributing to incredible evil.

Posted by: rooster54 | April 18, 2009 12:21 PM

You want to know what torture is? Torture is having that NON NATURAL BORN AMERICAN in our White House. My God, he was born a Brit! His daddy was a British Citizen, under British Common Law, that says if a male British Citizen goes overseas and marries a alien female their children will be born British Citizens. You don't need no birth certificate, nor do you need to know where he was born, HE WAS BORN A BRITISH CITIZEN! Therefore he is not a NATURAL BORN AMERICAN! Therefore according to Article 2. Section 1. paragraph 5. of our great Constitution HE CAN NOT BE PRESIDENT!
KNOWING WE HAVE NO PRESIDENT, THAT IS UNBEARABLE TORTURE! Call your Senators, Congressmen, TV and Radio stations, Anybody, we got to get this impostor out of Washington and back to Kenya. I can't stand the pain!!!!!!

Posted by: old1 | April 17, 2009 10:57 PM

Obama needs to be arrested for torturing me.
* Stealing my money without asking
* Lying to America
* Appointing tax cheats as "leaders"
* Making fun of mentally retarwded people
* Wasting my tax $$ flying around on AF1 to appear on TV with Leno
* Plunging the country into economic ruin by spending more money than the govt takes in

Posted by: ruefulman | April 17, 2009 10:08 PM

I love how you Oblahblah supports condem torture, but spend "stimulus" dollars for abortion. I am sure all those babies wish you would defend them when the doctor sticks a metal tube in their skull and sucks thier brains out.

Posted by: ruefulman | April 17, 2009 10:05 PM

Colonoscopy wrote: Right wing extremist groups have recently been recognized as a bigger threat to homeland security than Muslim extremist groups.>>>>>

ladies and gentlemen, I offer you the above post as proof that liberalism is a mental disorder. I rest my case.

Posted by: cecil91 | April 17, 2009 1:25 PM

Rooster54:

Get your facts straight. The Homeland Security Department is REVISING their report that seemed to single out veterans as a danger, since the DNC/Obama political hacks initially bypassed the DHS' internal review process and manipulated the report so that it would read in a manner that fit their agenda.

Let's not buy into the game your Massiah is playing.

Posted by: colofalcon | April 17, 2009 1:05 PM

Right wing extremist groups have recently been recognized as a bigger threat to homeland security than Muslim extremist groups. You right wing nuts are fashioning your own noose when you advocate torture in the name of national security.

Jesus was serious when he said you reap what you sow. Repent.

Posted by: rooster54 | April 17, 2009 1:00 PM

alysheba_3: Do you honestly believe that hearing that no Americans will be prosecuted for torture (and that is what happened) is in anyway going to endear Americans to any country? All it will do is convince people that "if they can get way with it, so can we".>>>

We have a fundamental disagrrement on what constitutes "torture." We also disagree on the importance of whether or not other countries find us "endearing." I believe that modern America has proven to be the most humanitarian country the world has ever known. In the face of that, The singular episode involving harsh treatment of 30 terror suspects amounts to a fart in the wind. You may claim to be an independent, but your rhetoric spells "bleeding-heart liberal" which is code for a boanfide guilt-ridden leftist.

Posted by: cecil91 | April 17, 2009 12:49 PM

The real laugh is what's defined as torture. Many of our own service men and women have been waterboarded in training-who's crying for them? Uncomfortable positions, heat and cold,a bug(non venomous no less put in the cell, Being grabbed by the collar or thrown up against a wall(a soft one no less, loud and unrelenting rock music. The women out there that have delivered babies, put up with hot flashes and have raised teens are probably laughing right about now.

Posted by: thebink | April 17, 2009 12:37 PM

Cecil9,

I am not republican or democrat. I am however a person who has served my country (as a resevist and can no longer do to medical conditions). And a person with many relatives and friends serving overseas.

I firmly believe that the hypocrisy shown by the USA only hurts the members of the military serving overseas. Do you honestly believe that hearing that no Americans will be prosecuted for torture (and that is what happened) is in anyway going to endear Americans to any country? All it will do is convince people that "if they can get way with it, so can we".

Or, let's put it like this: Your son or daughter is captured (if he/she is currently serving overseas), and his/her captors believe he has information. Do you believe it is okay for your son to be waterboarded, and the person responsible gets away with doing it because they were told to do it by their commanders?

Posted by: alysheba_3 | April 17, 2009 12:33 PM

By the way...it's not Obama's fault that he and his team are working 20 hours a day trying to make the country more "loser-friendly" both at home and around the world-- they didn't elect themselves...the MSM and Libbyzealots did.

Face it, this country is being retooled by NOBAMA and the MSM to provide a support system for losers.

Posted by: colofalcon | April 17, 2009 12:30 PM

@ thebink - HERE'S your answer (and for those who missed it "thebink" said go to Google and type in "Does torturer work?" - Here's your Answer: Go to Google and type in 9/11 then go to "images" then you'll have my answer which of course is - I DONT CARE if it works. Give it a try! You never know, it could be the SUSAN BOYLE of information!!! Dope & Chains baby, more Dope and Chains

Posted by: z4t4 | April 17, 2009 12:27 PM

Right on, good_angel...

I love how the libs are able to fixate on ANYTHING that they think will reflect poorly on the United States. Perhaps a few more of them should step forward and place their elitist a$$es on the line like some of us have to defend our way of life. Oh-- sorry...that would cut into their late-night, sniveling, whining philosophy sessions at Starbucks, wouldn't it?

It's also interesting how the libs have appointed themselves the judges of fairness in our society.

We only have one scenario that will save us: Those of us who actually DO work AND pay taxes (currently about 40% of the populace, BTW), need to continue to scream down the sickening libs and their totalitarian approach ("Only the 'progressive' [BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL] view will be allowed to be inculcated in society-- all else is WRONG and MUST be silenced!!!").

Hmmm...maybe work really DOES make you free... Interesting thought.

F-wits.

Posted by: colofalcon | April 17, 2009 12:22 PM

@ good_angel - THANKS! I was begining to think my 10 years in the ARMY was now coming into question from the public and the Bamadrones

Posted by: z4t4 | April 17, 2009 12:17 PM

Torture away!! Waterboarding is not enough.
Torture them every day for hours- that is the currency and the payoff for the kind of activity they engage in and that is exactly what happens to the CIA agents when they get captured!

American need to stop being so stupid and naive!
Boo-hoo!

Posted by: ea11 | April 17, 2009 12:15 PM

Victor Davis Hanson? The coy fascist hack?

Posted by: hanley12 | April 17, 2009 12:15 PM

MUSLIM MARY: (1) He agreed at the G20 meetings to have an INTERNATIONAL Board limit the pays and has say in MANAGEAGEMENT decisions of US Companies. (2) He released prisoners from GITMO which showed back up on the battlefield and just in March one of those killed a US citizen, a girl 18..working at the embassy (3) He just nominated Judge HAMILTON which has stated that words JESUS and Christ are illegal! but the word "ALLAH" is OK (4) He has not shown his REAL birth certificate (5) He goes on Aljazeera TV and says "We're not your enemy" - Are you folks kidding me? ARE YOU SERIOUS? How you like'n it now?

Posted by: z4t4 | April 17, 2009 12:14 PM

Chad1, personally attack those that you don't agree with-typical lib. You, and nobody else here has answered my question yet-still waiting on that. And as for your "Lush Lemminbaughs" comment, It carries very little weight in that the bulk of the mainstream media, popular culture, fiction etc., leans to the left in this country whereas conservative venues are few and far between Lemmings-look in the mirror.

Posted by: thebink | April 17, 2009 12:12 PM

alysheba_3 writes:so to you torture is only torture, and is only wrong, if the numbers are high enough?>>>>

My comment was directed at your hyperbole. What rhe Nazis did was far removed from CIA tactics in the wake of 911. Just stay within reason and you may actually one day be granted a certificate of completion from the RNC.
Cheers

Posted by: cecil91 | April 17, 2009 12:05 PM

@ manittou You say "WE hid"? Sorry Pal...I have no Problem with the very cool and innovative techniques used on these clowns. You act like these are the guys that bring you your Easter eggs every year...Yeah, This is what we need; more DOPE & CHAINS. All aboard the new Midnight Muslim Express! (When we build it that is)

Posted by: z4t4 | April 17, 2009 12:04 PM

The lunatics that defend the terrorists and call for punishment of those who defended American families by making the terrorists give up information concerning planned mass killings are traitors. Traitors should be dispised by all Americans and asked to leave this country. The fanatical muslims that were being questioned were not uniformed prisoners of war. They are savages that have no regard for any law or any life. They should be treated as one would treat a mad dog. There is little difference, other than a mad dog can't hurt as many innocent people as a suicide bomber. The cowardly wusses that defend the terrorists and condemn the men and women that protect America should be deported to the homeland of those they defend. The CIA agents risk their lives every day so these elitist snobs can demean their country and its heros. The same people that condemn the CIA would never fight to defend this nation or freedom. They are cowards. Just as Obama claimed how decisive he was and what a part of the rescue of the hostage held by pirates he was, these people are patrotic frauds. The real story is that Obama would not authorize the killing of the pirates unless the captain was in "imminent" danger as defined by him. Of course the cowardly president had never served in the armed forces, so he had no experience in these matters. That did not stop this novice from letting experienced commanders in the field make the onsite decisions. After all, some of the pirates might be distant kin of the president and they were black Africans. How would killing them look to his friends the French and all his ultra liberal friends?? It is a sad day when some who call themselves Americans prefer to defend our enemies instead of their country men.

Posted by: good_angel | April 17, 2009 12:01 PM

response to "thebink", yes there is two sides to the torture question.
The accurate one which is according to people that have been there and done it. IE: NOT YOU or Me, torture doesn't give reliable results. Under duress people make things up that they think their torturer wants to hear, anything to make the pain stop.

So you can continue like the rest of the brainwashed "Lush Lemmingbaugh's" spreading your ignorance, hate, torture, kill message until someone medicates you or puts you in a mental hospital or you could face reality.

Posted by: Chad1 | April 17, 2009 11:57 AM

HEY OBAMA LOVERS did you guys forget something? Like the 900 MILLION he just promised to HAMAS? Talk about Immoral!

Posted by: z4t4 | April 17, 2009 11:56 AM

Yeah HARSH! How does one counter IDE's that kill our guys, Planes flown into our buildings, ON OUR SOIL killing civilians and the attacks that have gone one since 1948? Easy! If Your OBAMA - You give them a big hug and a kiss and say.. "Don't get hurt" This is AXELROD and OBAMA trying to continue "ITS BUSHS FAULT". Note after everything that makes him look bad he reach's for that bag of "Surpise" this will keep'em off balance. HOPE & CHANGE? haha Yeah, you mean DOPE & CHAINS

Posted by: z4t4 | April 17, 2009 11:51 AM

You liberal whackadoodles are amazing. Obama is a National disgrace. I am glad my father who served in the orient in World War II is not alive to see this sniveling, groveling, incompetent flake as President.

We have nothing to apologize for. If foreign countries do not like it then pay back the money we lent them over the many years and pull our troops home. While these countries can never repay us for the American blood spilt to protect their freedoms we can stop any financial aid.

Stop sending monetary aid to any foreign country that complains (that we are having to borrow at this point to send to foreign countries) and tell them to kiss our Red, White & Blue butt.

If there is any apology necessary here it is from Obama and Hillary to the citizens of this Country.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | April 17, 2009 11:48 AM

ATTENTION WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS:

Ask Gibbs if *ANY OTHER* Bush-era Justice Department memos authorized the use of hi-tech devices...


...such as electromagnetic radiation devices (a/k/a "directed energy weapons')...


...on *ANY* human being subject to *ANY* government "operation"...


...whether these persons were "detainees" *OR* American citizens "targeted" by government agencies for any reason.


If you receive a truthful answer -- or if you follow up on this lead -- you will have a story that's much bigger than the "torture memos" story...


...bigger than Watergate.


http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/domestic-torture-radiation-weaponry-americas-horrific-shame

OR (if links are corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 17, 2009 11:46 AM

Let me see. We should prosecute the CIA for torture practices, but we insist it is okay to abort babies, even tearing them limb from limb and pulling off their heads. It is hard to credit the prosecutorial desires of those who support abortion. Is it to assuage you guilty consciences?

Posted by: Proponent-of-virtue | April 17, 2009 11:42 AM

Cecil91, so to you torture is only torture, and is only wrong, if the numbers are high enough?

Posted by: alysheba_3 | April 17, 2009 11:36 AM

As a lawyer, Obama has to consider the legal gray areas and that the administration of the time has a different political ethic. The element of criminality and violation seems invisible on a partisan basis. The then administration had all sorts of legal advisors willing to justify that different ethic. Obama's people are all saying "going forward," and that reflects, I think, a socially mature, emotionally mature, legally mature vision. This White House, this administration has a different ethic. Going forward, what we need to be vigilant about, is allowing that other ethic that much power in this nation and the world. Going forward. Somebody else, the Congress maybe, can prosecute and investigate and keep facts in the public view.

Posted by: GaiasChild | April 17, 2009 11:33 AM

alysheba_3 wrote:Pres. Obama has said that the interrogators will not be prosecuted because they were only following orders. I find it funny that this excuse works for Americans, but for the Nazi guards at concentration camps, who knew what was happening, but never actually did anything to lead people to their deaths or torture>>>>

Apples and oranges. No one died from harsh treatment by the CIA, and only 30 terrorists were subjected to it. The Nazis murdered millions and made leather goods from human skin. How can you possibly equate these two events? Again, the liberal mind is devoid of rational thought.

Posted by: cecil91 | April 17, 2009 11:31 AM

If you go to google and type in "torture does work" you'll see that there's always 2 sides to every story-especially those that the mainstream tout. I'm still waiting for an honest answer to my question. If an anti torture person can't answer it with a simple yes or no, he or she needs to take a good hard look the him or her self.

Posted by: thebink | April 17, 2009 11:30 AM

somebody actually claimed that any harsh treatment never produces useful results: "You don't get anything but garbage from the victim."

Sources for this blanket statement? Statistics? Anything but anecdotes and knee-jerk liberal emotions? No? Didn't think so.

Posted by: cecil91 | April 17, 2009 11:24 AM

America agreed not to torture. I believe it was Ronald Reagan who signed the document. American politicians and judges have said waterboarding is torture. Bush's DOJ gave permission to waterboard. Therefore, following the line of logic, the Bush government allowed torture.

Pres. Obama has said that the interrogators will not be prosecuted because they were only following orders. I find it funny that this excuse works for Americans, but for the Nazi guards at concentration camps, who knew what was happening, but never actually did anything to lead people to their deaths or torture. We are told that "just following orders" is no excuse and these people were convicted, sent to prison, or put to death.

The hypocrisy of the American people is pretty evident to the world now.

Posted by: alysheba_3 | April 17, 2009 11:20 AM

Why is a measured and thoughtful approach called waffling? President Obama never promised that he would exact revenge for the abuses of the Bush Administration. Rather, he promised "change" which he has been delivering in buckets, much to my delight. A change in openness, ethics, respect for fundamental civil rights and the rule of law.

Before jumping to conclusions, however, one should read his actual words. He did NOT say no one will be prosecuted. Instead, he has signaled that lower level agents who believed that they were acting within their authority will not be prosecuted.

The proper target of any action should be the higher-ups who had the power to, and did, authorize torture. (Remember Abu Ghraib? Bush made young and inexperienced soldiers take the fall, when it was Rumsfeld, Cheney et al., who ordered torture and tried to legitimize it with nonsense legal memos from rabidly unethical Bush Admin. lawyers.)

I applaud President Obama for not taking the low road of targeting low level people "for show." Whether anyone is ever prosecuted, the release of the CIA memos is the right thing to do. Ultimately, the great strength of America is the openness and transparency of our government.

When the American people are given the truth, they usually demand that government do the right thing. Its hard to make that demand when the people are kept in the dark. Exposing past abuses to the light of day helps ensure that it doesn't happen again. Lets hope, however, that one day we might see blame being laid where it actually belongs.

Posted by: Speaktruth | April 17, 2009 11:19 AM

What is it with RR's (Retard ReBUBBAlicans)?? torture doesn't work, isn't that little enough words for your single braincell to grasp. You don't get anything but garbage from the victim.

Torture is repugnantcans playtime they killed little animals when they were children now they like torturing and killing even more. Time to put them down like the mad dogs they are.

Posted by: Chad1 | April 17, 2009 11:15 AM

Obama is waffling on these issues of national security because of promises he made during the election due to his inexperience. It's called a reality check. His only priority is to get re-elected.

Posted by: BubbaRight | April 17, 2009 11:03 AM

Barack Obama is a coward and an uncle tom who has violated the oath of office by ignoring the will of the people who elected him.

Obviously, he does not intend to run for re-election. The coward could never get re-elected. we don't need an uncle Tom in the White House.

Posted by: Bthomascooper | April 17, 2009 11:01 AM

These radicals islamics are the people who beheaded Daniel Pearl.

And everyone is worried about convicting the CIA.

Get a life.

If you saw a black widow spider just about to jump on your child - would you kill it?

Posted by: debmries | April 17, 2009 10:56 AM

I believe that if I had information and was tortured for it, I'd give it up however if I had no info, I probably would make some up. However, you didn't answer my question.

Posted by: thebink | April 17, 2009 10:47 AM

thebink:

Torture doesn't work on people who believe in their cause, whatever that cause may be, righteous or ignoble.


If it did, I wouldn't be responding to you now.


And I'm betting you know exactly what I'm talking about.

http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-fusion-center-spying-pretext-harass-and-censor

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 17, 2009 10:42 AM

Oooooh.....I never thought of the fact that we may have sterilized them-- that's AWESOME!

We really DO need to grab some family members of noted "progressives" (read that LIBS) and hand them to the enemy (I'm sorry...I didn't mean to use the word enemy-- I meant to say: "poor misunderstood Bush/Cheney victims") to do as they wish to them.

You know, sort of as bargaining chips to show how empathetic as a nation we really are. Then when the relatives are raped, tortured, and mistreated, we can tell their "progressive" relatives in our most effeminate voice to stay calm because "Two wrongs don't make a right..."

What a bunch of F-wits.


Posted by: colofalcon | April 17, 2009 10:38 AM

How about a straight forward answer to my straight forward question? There are actual American lives at stake in regard to our interrogation policies. And please, no "I just want to feel warm and fuzzy about myself" responses. Or no "I'll deflect the question by yet again bashing Bush responses. A simple "yes,even if the life of my loved one depended on it, I'd say no torture" would suffice.

Posted by: thebink | April 17, 2009 10:30 AM

Re: Justice Dept. OLC Torture Memos...


THE QUESTION ACLU (AND INVESTIGATIVE JOURNOS) NOW MUST ASK:


• DID *OTHER* BUSH-ERA DOJ MEMOS APPROVE THE USE OF MICROWAVE OR OTHER ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION WEAPONS OR DEVICES ON ANY HUMAN BEINGS...


...WHETHER THEY WERE DETAINEES, OR AMERICAN CITIZENS CLASSIFIED AS UNDESIRABLES, DISSIDENTS OR MENTAL DEFECTIVES?


• IF SO, UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS WERE SUCH WEAPONS OR DEVICES USED, AND WHERE?


http://nowpublic.com/world/bush-doj-memos-used-legal-cover-domestic-torture

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | April 17, 2009 10:28 AM

In regard do torture, I have asked this question in many blogs. Your son, daughter,anyone you dearly love, is being held by terrorist, our government has a terrorist that may have the info to save your loved one. Do you honestly say "Oh no, no pretend drowning-no harmless bugs thrown in his cell,no sleep deprivation or uncomfortable positions?" I get a charge out of the fact that liberals actually believe themselves to be empathetic.

Posted by: thebink | April 17, 2009 10:11 AM

monstruous human beings are to be found in all cultures. We must learn from our horrific actions. those actions we hide from after executing our crimes.
Christians, jews, muslims..everyone

Posted by: manittou | April 17, 2009 10:09 AM

In regard do torture, I have asked this question in many blogs. Your son, daughter,anyone you dearly love, is being held by terrorist, our government has a terrorist that may have the info to save your loved one. Do you honestly say "Oh no, no pretend drowning-no harmless bugs thrown in his cell,no sleep deprivation or uncomfortable positions?" I get a charge out of the fact that liberals actually believe themselves to be empathetic.

Posted by: thebink | April 17, 2009 10:05 AM

What, exactly, is the big deal. So thirty terrorist suspects held as war combatants are subjected to what amounts to nothing more traumatic than some school-yard bullying, and less than what they likely received at home on the domestic front from dad Taliban the neighborhood throat slitter. What is especially galling and surreal is that the same crying teeth-gnashing liberals who protest against this non-lethal treatment would not bat an eyelash at killing a human fetus. I mean, it begs the question, "Do liberals have any brains?"

Posted by: cecil91 | April 17, 2009 10:04 AM

Yard80197 Wrote : "Country run by the Military-Industrial Complex....Feredal (sic)Reserve,AIPAC,and the ZIONISTS"

OH MY,HEAVEN TO BETSY,SILLY OLD ME.Now I understand :
All the problems,the interrogations,were all the fault of the JEWS.
And there I was,in my ignorance,believing it was caused by Islamic Terrorists.

Posted by: logicolin | April 17, 2009 9:59 AM

It's funny....I don't hear International human rights groups talking about how awful it must have been for people to jump 100+ floors out of the burning WTC buildings to escape the intense heat. You know why? Most of the people jumping were American, and the buildings were in America...Actually, some organizations might be equating the two situations, but Americans won't be permitted to hear about it-- our mainstream media is completely a tool of the left-wing who ALSO hates America. They salved their guilt by ensuring the election of a minority to the highest office in the land...and now...he MUST succeed on paper-- at all costs. Sickening.

Posted by: colofalcon | April 17, 2009 9:58 AM

Just gotta love the torture apologizers. We're not buying what you're selling... toxic ideology much like the toxic assets on Wall Street. Did you learn nothing from the Nuremberg trials?? Justice delayed is Justice denied.

Posted by: MLuther | April 17, 2009 9:50 AM

Those who commanded Bush are the ones who should take their hoods off after hoodwinking all of us. Better to operate from the shadows and accuse ONLY Bush. Truly ridiculous!!

Posted by: manittou | April 17, 2009 9:44 AM

WHAT A WONDERFUL FAIRY-TALE WORLD SOME OF US LIVE IN !
A SENARIO : An evil monster murders and rapes your beloved Daughter.
The evil Monster and their associates plot to do the same to your other beloved Children.
What measures would YOU take to extract information from those associates if they were hostile,arrogant,and unwilling to help you prevent the murder and rape of your surviving loved ones,and to top it off,they believed they were doing God's work?
I know,let's SCOLD THEM SEVERELY,and tell them how naughty they are.That'll work - yeah,right.

Posted by: logicolin | April 17, 2009 9:43 AM

Of Course. Those who said that O'Bama would be a Bush THIRD term were quite correct-- and so would a McCain presidency. Anyone awake enough to realize that it hardly matters who is in the White House? This country is run by the Military-Industrial Complex part of whom is the Feredal reserve, AIPAC and the Zionists. The presidents and members of congress are merely puppets of these powerful forces. Any official who tries to act out of national interest instead ends up like JFK.

Posted by: yard80197 | April 17, 2009 9:40 AM

Behind all the anger and frustration over Obama's decision not to prosecute Bush officials for interrogation methods is the left's obsession to "get Bush". The WP describes the torture as brutal - hardly. I wouldn't want to endure it, but it was restrained, it did produce results and it was deemed legal at the time. Now we have decided to refrain from using these methods again. We have proven to the world once again that we are willing to hold ourselves accountable. It is time to move on and for everyone to calm down. George Bush didn't destroy the world; you on the left would like to believe it, but it didn't happen!

Posted by: saelij | April 17, 2009 9:22 AM

if cia interrogators to be 'interrogated'
mossad interrogators should not be left out of the horrific equation. Something Aipac might be trying to avoid at all cost. surprised anyone?

Posted by: manittou | April 17, 2009 9:17 AM

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