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GOP Stymies Vote on Sebelius

Updated 2:05 p.m.
By Ceci Connolly
President Obama will have to wait a bit longer to round out his Cabinet. Senate Republicans refused today to allow a confirmation vote on his health secretary nominee Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D-Kan.). She is the last Cabinet member awaiting Senate approval.

At the start of the session today, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) proposed taking a vote after five hours of debate. But Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) objected, arguing that lawmakers needed more time to consider her "fairly contentious" selection.

A handful of Republicans have complained about Sebelius' support for abortion rights and her failure to report the full extent of campaign contributions she received from a physician who performs abortions.

Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) opposes Sebelius because of the Obama administration's support for research on the comparative effectiveness of disease treatments. He said he fears the evidence-based approach, coupled with information on price, could lead to rationing of care.

In the Senate Finance Committee Tuesday, eight of 10 GOP members opposed her nomination. Two Republicans, Sens. Pat Roberts of Kansas and Olympia Snowe of Maine, voted to confirm her.

During her long stint in Kansas politics, Sebelius has been known as a moderate with strong relations across the aisle. She chose a running mate two years ago who had been a Republican Party leader.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley said today that, if necessary, the Democratic leader intends to pursue the procedural maneuvers needed to overcome a Republican filibuster. That would likely push a confirmation vote into next week.

"We're confident there will be the 60 votes needed to confirm her," Manley said.

This afternoon, McConnell's office clarified in a statement that the nomination is "not stymied, she's just not getting confirmed today" and said that concerns about a filibuster are premature.

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Comments

Should society not be allowed to require mothers and fathers to care for their children instead of terminating the children?

Posted by: askingquestion | April 29, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Should society not be allowed to require mothers and fathers to care for their children instead of terminating the children?

Posted by: askingquestion | April 29, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Who will care for the children of the "mothers" who give birth to them, who do not want them or who cannot care for them?

Can our president do anything to please you? Do you pick him to pieces if he does something so simple as sneezes?

The people who caused this mess have gone about their business, even richer than they were before they left office.

Posted by: jclassylady47 | April 28, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Should abortion be outlawed?

Posted by: askingquestion | April 27, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

From what I have read about our Governor,she received a lot more money from "Tiller the baby killer".He also had his people doing work for her campaign,which he paid for their hrs.The Governor is a died in the wool abortion backer.She will fit right in with the new President morals.These people that claim they are protecting womens rights,are actually protecting the money they receive from these providers. I have read where Tiller receives $5,000 for every procedure he provides. It is no wonder he pays well to get the right people elected to keep him safe.It is a down right sin to kill babies,and than the same people are outraged about all the "miss treatments" of the terrorists.

Posted by: yvonnewittig | April 26, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Why does pregnancy simultaneously make a woman and her body both female and male almost 50% of the time, almost always two different blood types, and always two different DNA types?

Posted by: askingquestion | April 26, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Notawingnut

I've got an idea. How about post-birth abortions for all liberals. That would get this country back to normal.

Posted by: KANSASTOWN | April 24, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey Wingnuts, they're not babies, their embryos in most cases, sometime fetuses. The important thing is they are not YOURS! They are the mothers and they cannot live outside of her. It's her body, her choice, period. You don't give a d@mn about the rest of the starving children in this world, overpopulation, killing people in unjust wars or killing criminals. Why do you care about embryos? Your religion is wrong and you cannot rationalize things on our own.

Posted by: NotAWingnut | April 24, 2009 2:27 AM | Report abuse

"Republicans had total control of the government for 8 years so where is their health care program?"

We have the best health care system in the world.

What you want is health care paid for anyone but you. Right?

Posted by: KANSASTOWN | April 24, 2009 1:04 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans were in power for 8 years and they screwed up our country so bad I can hardly recognize it.

Posted by: mperezm | April 23, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I am getting tired of the pouting, whining, childish behavior of the republicans.
They really need to grow up.
If they were at all smart or aware they would know they have lost the support of independents and moderates. Everyone but, the nutty, off the rails base of extremists is sick of this.
Either they come to work and do the business of the people, put the country first over party and show they can be adults.

Posted by: vwcat | April 23, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

How can these Repub geniuses think that their threat around torture investigations would end bi-partisanship. Here they are again holding up an appointment that they think will eventually go through anyway. How could that in anyway be seen as bi-partisan. They are playing roadblock and have been through the first 100 days. There is no cooperation to loose from these losers. Not a single idea amongst them, except the one they use for every circumstance and problem "tax cuts"(for the wealthy of course)

Posted by: kwires | April 23, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Supporting Gov. Kathleen Sebelius for Health & Human Services Secretary will SAVE LIVES & SAVE MONEY.

It is EVERY WOMAN'S LEGAL RIGHT TO CHOICE - end of story.

Yet, Rep. Senate Minority Leader McConnell is attempting to deny Sebelius the nomination due to his own personal views, which have no validity.

And then there's Rep. Sen. Kyl, who opposes Sebelius because Prez. Obama is supporting research Re: the effectiveness of comparitive disease treatments, which again will save lives and money.

Bottom Line: Rep. support a for-profit health care system, instead of alternative treatments that work-such as OZONE-which destroys cancer cells and tumors and is used successfully in Canada, Europe, and especially in Germany, w/fantastic results. OZONE is a natural treatment and cannot be patented, which is why all the heads of every mainstream medical organization, including the FDA, deem OZONE illegal. Cancer, as with many other serious illnesses, is a billion dollar business.

Americans have the most expensive health care system with the worse results. Download 2008 Updates for "Innocent Casualties: The FDA's War Against Humanity" at fdainformation.com to learn the documented truth re: U.S. Health Care.

Posted by: elaine29 | April 23, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Sebelius should be in office immediately. She was objected to by pedophile priests, militia nuts, delusional fetus-obsessed dangerous people, and allies of Reagan and W. Bush as they paved the way for fast-track economic collapse. Such bozos have lost their legitimate say. If they are going to be allowed to continue without medication and rubber rooms, then at the very least, they should not be able to bully the legislature into stagnation. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

Posted by: revbookburn | April 23, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

"So conservatives, stop driving through life by staring in the rear view mirror and look at the road ahead."

Yeah, wouldn't want to miss seeing that great big liberal mushroom cloud that's on the way.

Posted by: KANSASTOWN | April 23, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Republicans had total control of the government for 8 years so where is their health care program? All the Republicans had to offer was BS a debt because that is what they have been all about for years although they would have the morons believe something else, and they do. Republicans need to go into a corner and shut up at least until we are out of the mess they created but they are just too ignorant for that.

Posted by: LaughTrack | April 23, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

"

"Really, kansastown, you were waterboarded 180 times? You were kept in a box for days on end? You had your head smacked against a wall several times? I believe that is against the military code.

Posted by: mikel"

Explains a lot about how kansastown "thinks," though."

Nope, never been water boarded, never murdered anyone, never tried to murder anyone either. Never dedicated my life to the destruction of the US either.

another wimpy, whining liberal.

Posted by: KANSASTOWN | April 23, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

She didn't pay her taxes..she didn't disclose huge campaign contributions. She called it an "oversight"...I call it CORRUPTION!

Posted by: tiotom77 | April 23, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Jon Kyl is ridiculous. G-d forbid we should actually know whether we're using our health care dollars wisely.

Posted by: davestickler | April 23, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Awww...

:-D

Posted by: SAINT---The | April 23, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse


i was so glad to see Sebelius getting shut out. The last thing the world needs is another F'n DLC neo-liberal from the Bilderberger rats nest of power hungry elitists.
NO NO NO to Sebelius NEVER !

If you're a Progressive YOU do not want this Neo-liberal in any part of Govt.

Posted by: Darwin26 | April 23, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many Republican women ever had abortions? Has it ever been tracked? It might surprise all of us if one could come up with some sort of a number. As for confirmations go, Dems should just go the easy route and get it down and stop letting the Repubs have any say. It seems that what they do have to say is not worth listening to and we shouldn't give them press time with that stuff. It's over for them.

Posted by: joltinjo | April 23, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

(((bell is ringing)))
CLASS !

*Torture-inflict pain on somebody
-to inflict extreme pain or physical punishment on somebody
-inflicting of pain: infliction of severe physical pain on somebody, e.g. as punishment or to persuade somebody to confess or recant something
-methods of inflicting pain: the methods used to inflict physical pain on people

Interrogation-thorough questioning
-the act or process of questioning somebody closely, often in an aggressive manner, especially as part of an official investigation or trial

Enhanced-improve
-to improve or add to the strength, worth, beauty, or other desirable quality of something

Technique-procedure or skill required
-the procedure, skill, or art used in a specific task
-skill possessed: skill or expertise in doing a specific thing

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 23, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"Really, kansastown, you were waterboarded 180 times? You were kept in a box for days on end? You had your head smacked against a wall several times? I believe that is against the military code.

Posted by: mikel"

Explains a lot about how kansastown "thinks," though.

Posted by: thrh | April 23, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

What a way to run a country! A dictatorial minority of 41 naysayers can block the majority of 59 from acting for the benefit of the country.

Posted by: jjedif | April 23, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Poor Larry, ALWAYS BLAMING LIBERALS FOR EVERYTHING!

Buddy, you're the exact same person who is PRO DEATH PENALTY, and COULDN'T CARE LESS WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THESE BABIES ONCE THEY'RE BORN, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT WHITE!

Sad, little troll hypocrite.

YOUR VOTED FOR BUSH TWICE, PROVING YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Although I agree, late term abortions are absurd! Either figure it out in the first 10 weeks, or adopt out, either or, MAKE A DAMNED DECISION!

All trolls know one thing, BUSH AND HIS PALS ON 'K' STREET, NEVER INTENDED NOR WILL ANY OF THEM EVER, EVER OUTLAW ABORTION. THEY MAKE WAY TOO MUCH MONEY OFF YOU AND YOURS. THEY LOVE THE ABORTION ISSUE, IT FILLS THEIR POCKETS. BUSH DID NOTHING FOR YOU, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH!

SEE, ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG!
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
And once again you are STUPID!!
The death penalty is the lawful killing of someone who has done a bad thing and exhausted all rights of appeal.
Abortion kills an innocent child - without even a hearing!!
BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

Posted by: thornegp | April 23, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Really, kansastown, you were waterboarded 180 times? You were kept in a box for days on end? You had your head smacked against a wall several times? I believe that is against the military code.

Posted by: mikel7 | April 23, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

"Interesting that liberals also oppose capital punishment, but approve of killing unborn babies. Pathetic hypocrites, as usual."

We also opposed the War in Iraq where 100,000 Iraqis have died. We also oppose the destruction of embryos that could be used to save lives. We also define life as beginning closer the the biblical 10 days after birth (after the time of quickening- 22 weeks) than the pro-lifers to the time of conception. We also oppose torture as does the rest of the civilized world. We want to address the gun wars here at home where 30,000 people are killed every year with gun violence.

We also accept that life is complex with nuances and trade-offs. The world is not black and white.
We have goals rather than absolute dogma.

So conservatives, stop driving through life by staring in the rear view mirror and look at the road ahead.

Posted by: stanassc | April 23, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

The 'just say no' party strikes again!! No to the environment, no to checks and balances, no to regulating banks or insurance companies, no to choice, and no to immigrants. But wait, Republicans aren't against everything. They're for Torture!! No wonder the dwindling party is down to 20%.

The next American soldier who gets tortured can thank Bush and the Republican Party.

Posted by: thebobbob | April 23, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Attention GOP: America doesn't like you. Go away.

Attention Dems: (I'm looking at you, Reid): What are you afraid of? Use the power!

Posted by: fluxgirl | April 23, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"They supported a pres and vp that tortured and lied about it and they have a problem with Ms Sebelius?"

They didn't lie about it. They were proud of it, as I am.

Torture was effective, torture did the job if you consider isolation, sleep deprivation, roaches on the floor and water boarding torture. For Crissakes I had a tougher time in Marine boot camp.


Posted by: KANSASTOWN | April 23, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse


"The conservatives whine about paying more taxes, when they had breaks the last 8 years, and if/when the rates go up, it will still be LESS than what they paid under Reagan."

What "tax breaks" are you referring to? Conservatives pay a fortune in taxes, liberals pay little or nothing. 50% of the population doesn't pay income taxes, they're not conservatives. Obama wants a country of "Octomoms". Do what ever you want and send the bill to the hardest working segment of the population, you guessed it, the Conservatives.

Jimmy Carter tried all this Socialist crap years ago. He was gone after 1 term, and then the greatest president we ever had gave us 25 years of prosperity.

btw Reagan dropped the top tax rate from 70% to 28%.

We Republicans are looking for the next Reagan and we're going to find him.

Posted by: KANSASTOWN | April 23, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

What a flippin' joke. They supported a pres and vp that tortured and lied about it and they have a problem with Ms Sebelius?

The gop is more irrelevant by the day - I'm saddened that governance is just a political game to them.

Posted by: bluesneakers | April 23, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"Interesting that liberals also oppose capital punishment, but approve of killing unborn babies. Pathetic hypocrites, as usual."

A perfect example of the blindness we humans have towards our own inconsistencies. It is of course equally "pathetic" and hypocritical to oppose killing unborn babies and approve of capital punishment. Nothing changes until more of us realize that we all carry these types of inconsistencies within us, it's not just a problem "out there" for "those other guys."

Posted by: FBGraham1 | April 23, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Clearly a good hard waterboarding will make Kathleen the Killer give up those pesky pro-choice views.

What loons these Republicans be.

UP OR DOWN VOTE!!!! ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU WANT?

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | April 23, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

It has everything to do with killing innocent unborn babies, which is not a right.
You liberals hide behind "choice," which is patently dishonest.
Interesting that liberals also oppose capital punishment, but approve of killing unborn babies. Pathetic hypocrites, as usual.

Posted by: LarryG62 | April 23, 2009 12:58 PM

----------------------------------------

Am I wrong to wish clowns like you were aborted?

Posted by: RightDownTheMiddle | April 23, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The "Party of No" has spoken again. President Obama can relax -- 8-year term keeps being reaffirmed.

Posted by: changehopeusa | April 23, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

To LoonyLeft:

What do you have against investing in OUR country? Against having a level playing field for all Americans? What's socilaist about those things? I thought they're "American" things!!

The conservatives whine about paying more taxes, when they had breaks the last 8 years, and if/when the rates go up, it will still be LESS than what they paid under Reagan.

Reagan and Bush ran up unprecedented debts; Cheney said 'deficits' don't matter'; Wall Street doesn't go to other investors for help but rather to the federal government to help clean up the mess the bankers created; they use bailout funds to lobby Congress for more favors; and they STILL screw the public.

You mock Obama's middle name, yet forget or don't know that one of America's best allies was Jordan's King HUSSEIN.

In 2002 Halliburton had $763 in government contracts, and in 2005 it was $6 billion. And they STILL billed the government for srevices rendered. (Thanks, Dick!) Nice use of tax money, huh?

Why are you so hateful?

Posted by: pal16 | April 23, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, repubs, for your continued support of democrats in 2010 and beyond.

You stand zero chance - zero - of scuttling Sebelius' nomination, yet block it anyway, thus underscoring your reputation as "The Party of NO" - in this case, "block the nomination for NO reason, other than to be aholes."

You guys make this too easy.

Posted by: ched | April 23, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Folks:

The obstructionists in the GOP are called Republirats. In 1964, during the passage of the Civil Rights Act, they defected from the Democratic party and infested the GOP. Ever since, there has been no peace in the GOP, and people like Lee Atwater and karl Rove have ansured that common sense, family values, and integrity are in extremely in short supply in the GOP stable. As long as Republirats continue to find a place to spew their hate in the GOP community, they will continue to have problems with the rest of america.

Posted by: johnho2 | April 23, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Republicans just want to obstruct and terrify the political system. Sad!!!

Posted by: johnho2 | April 23, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

"During her long stint in Kansas politics, Sebelius has been known as a moderate with strong relations across the aisle. She chose a running mate two years ago who had been a Republican Party leader."

Hilarious, the GOP looks worse every day.

Posted by: Crucialitis | April 23, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

So when Dems objected to Bush judge appointments because of their opposition to choice, all we heard from the nutbag GOP was "up or down vote" "up or down vote."

Now the GOP is going to pull the same tactic. Well OF COURSE THEY ARE. What a bunch of hypocritical losers. Elections have consequences, Repubs....and just as soon as Norm Coleman stops his gasping for air, Franken will be rightfully seated and you idiots will have to take it, good and hard!

Posted by: SWB2 | April 23, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

These are the same Republicans who had no problem with approving Alberto Gonsalves as Attorney General, who believed that because President Bush choose Justice Alito and Chief Justice John Roberts, that the should be confirmed because they were the Presidents choice regardless, and now the The Presidents Choice for HHS,no longer qualifies. It is time that the Democratic leaders start treating these Rebublican brutes with the scorn and contempt they have courted. their sole interest is obstruction and delay,they have nothing positive or inspiring to offer, and what they have is the delight of the sewer pit.Let us have none of it.

Posted by: samiaelsberesford | April 23, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Opposition to Sebelius is also being pushed big time by the Dobson Family Research Council and its State Affiliates, based on her pro choice position. The Republicans are very big when they say let us vote when they oppose progressive court decisions, but seem to take the other course when they can block judicial or cabinet appointments by the use of the filibuster. This anachronism needs to go.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | April 23, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse


nano4:
kudos...good entry.

for sure...
i don't belive in abortion but I will waterboard your butt until you die.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 23, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse


kyl is from arizona.
if anyone wants to know how the state of arizona, its legislation, and the Arizona Dept of Health Services has messed up on the public health of this state, please contact me.
i have extensive whistleblower files.

kyl doesn't know a scorpion if one bit him. he's is truly "out of it". has been for awhile. we are trying to get him out.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 23, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I believe that anyone or any entity that supports and defends torture of anyone, including enemies, has forfeited the right to base non confirmation of a ProChoice candidate for a government post on the basis of ProLife vs ProChoice. I see nothing ProLife to anyone who tortures.

Measuring effectiveness of a health intervention is done everyday in every situation in the provision of healthcare. It is not done enough, however, because some providers can earn more money by using up resources even when outcome will be nil.

The objections voiced to "stall" this confirmation are shallow and pithy and do not make good sense. "A president should be able to have whomever he/she wants in his/her Cabinet"....I heard this so many times in the past 8 years. Additionally, as Health and Human Services Secretary, Ms Sebelius is NOT going to mandate every woman who is pregnant have an abortion. She is just going to respect and enforce a law.

Actually, that goes for anyone in elected office. A ProChoice candidate recognizes a law that protects women from mandatory abortion as well as mandatory pregnancies.

Posted by: nana4 | April 23, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

GOP senators are all thugs. Last night on MSNBC, Sen. Ensign of NV kept calling the Senate Armed Services Committee report on torture "that partisan Democrat report".

Harry Reid and his spokesman are smoking something if they've deluded themselves into thinking they can "bring around" enough Rethug senators to get much of anything done. What do they think the whole Minnesota "election recount without an end" is all about?

Posted by: redballoon | April 23, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Motto of the loony-left liberal d-crats: "You pay taxes so we don't have to."

It's bad enough that the d-crats waste trillions of taxpayer money on a harmful pork-filled social-welfare "stimulus", endless bailouts and other garbage. It adds insult to injury to have them hand over responsible positions to TAX CRIMINALS.

Kathleen Sebelius - hussein's SECOND candidate for HHS secretary - used undocumented, phony deductions to cheat the federal government out of more than $7000 over three years.

It took JUST TWO WEEKS for the pelosi-hussein regime to become the most TAX CORRUPT GOVERNMENT IN HISTORY.

D-crats love to tax you to death, then tax your death. But, like loony-left liberal d-crat TAX CHEATS geithner, rangle, daschle, olbermann, killifer, solis, kirk, sebelius and millions more, they hate to pay taxes for the bonuses, bailouts, pork and socialist welfare boondoggles they create, and they'll cheat the government out of every penny they can.

Posted by: LoonyLeft | April 23, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

"Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) opposes Sebelius because of the Obama administration's support for research on the comparative effectiveness of disease treatments."

Could there be a clearer case for impeachment?

Posted by: drdoug | April 23, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

This is no surprise. After all Yes is no longer in the GOP's vocabulary. Neither are alternatives. Only NO!
Seems to me they are acting like Southern Whites did in the Jim Crow Days toward an African American President.
Get over it people! He is our President! Thank God!
Imagine when McCain keeled over for something we would of had that twit Palin for a President. And you think things are messed up now?

What comes around goes around GOP. All this No will turn into more No votes for your party in the next elections. We are not believing your hype anymore!

Posted by: bjlopez1130 | April 23, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Poor Larry, ALWAYS BLAMING LIBERALS FOR EVERYTHING!

Buddy, you're the exact same person who is PRO DEATH PENALTY, and COULDN'T CARE LESS WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THESE BABIES ONCE THEY'RE BORN, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT WHITE!

Sad, little troll hypocrite.

YOUR VOTED FOR BUSH TWICE, PROVING YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Although I agree, late term abortions are absurd! Either figure it out in the first 10 weeks, or adopt out, either or, MAKE A DAMNED DECISION!

All trolls know one thing, BUSH AND HIS PALS ON 'K' STREET, NEVER INTENDED NOR WILL ANY OF THEM EVER, EVER OUTLAW ABORTION. THEY MAKE WAY TOO MUCH MONEY OFF YOU AND YOURS. THEY LOVE THE ABORTION ISSUE, IT FILLS THEIR POCKETS. BUSH DID NOTHING FOR YOU, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH!

SEE, ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG!

Posted by: Cookie100 | April 23, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Is this the same GOP that hopes someday to win another election?

A moderate Democrat with a history of bipartisanship is unacceptable because she's pro-choice on abortion?

The fewer moderates the party has, the nuttier the party gets!

Posted by: uh_huhh | April 23, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Kyl must be in the pocket of somebody with a lucrative but useless treatment they're afraid will get axed.

Posted by: RedBird27 | April 23, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

LarryG62 wrote: "It has everything to do with killing innocent unborn babies, which is not a right."

If you are refering to abortion, yes it is a right up to the end of the first trimester. Where did you get the idea it was not a right?

LarryG62 wrote: "You liberals hide behind "choice," which is patently dishonest."

What is dishonest about "choice"? What I find dishonest is calling a clump of 100 cells a human being.

LarryG62 wrote: "Interesting that liberals also oppose capital punishment, but approve of killing unborn babies. Pathetic hypocrites, as usual."

And what is your stand on capital punishment? Most liberals are against it. Most republicans who oppose abortion are for it. A woman killing 100 cells growing inside her is murder but the government killing a human adult is just fine. Talk about hypocrasy.

Posted by: bevjims1 | April 23, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Please read this link. http://kyl.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=311677

It is Kyl's Senate website and is an argument against goverment heatlth care rationing. I don't completely disagree with him. Actually, I kinda think he is 'logically' right. However, the fact remains that 10s of millions of Americans (one of the richest countries in the world) have NO health insurance. Care will have to be rationed a bit in order to give everyone a level playing field from the start. People who want more care than the government provides can pay for the rest however they want to. That is not even mentioned by Kyl.

Always a Republican, he leaves out a major part of the reality of the situation. Does anyone think that a British citizen who is denied some outrageous experimental treatment is really going to just go down with the ship if they have the resources to pay for it themselves.

Sorry to let you know this Mr. Kyl, but insurance companies already deny many claims especially if the procedure or drug is new, experimental or really really expensive. You aren't lying but this really seems like a bit of false witness through malingering. What are Mr. Kyl's ties to the Health Insurance industry. Can someone else look into that. I just don't have the time right now.

Posted by: LanceBergstrom | April 23, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

GOP = NOP

Posted by: bevjims1 | April 23, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

It has everything to do with killing innocent unborn babies, which is not a right.
You liberals hide behind "choice," which is patently dishonest.
Interesting that liberals also oppose capital punishment, but approve of killing unborn babies. Pathetic hypocrites, as usual.

Posted by: LarryG62 | April 23, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Republicans look more and more pathetic every single day.

Posted by: freespeak | April 23, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

This is like the Norm Coleman case. That has nothing to do with resolving the election, but rather is foot dragging to delay the inevitable as long as possible.

Here, the Republicans are trying to delay the appointment of an HHS Secretary as long as possible (doesn't matter to them who it is), in order to undercut health-care reform.

Why they think the American people are with them on resisting health-care reform, particularly as rising unemployment increases the number of Americans with no insurance, is a mystery to me. But so is most of what passes for thinking in their caucus. It seems to be ossified rote responses and kneejerk reactions, not actual thought.

Posted by: fairfaxvoter | April 23, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans will strive not to be the party of opposition, but the party of better solutions."

John Boehner
January 6, 2009

Posted by: BigTunaTim | April 23, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

the party of no strikes again. aren't these idiots the same ones who screamed bloody murder when senate republicons holding a 1 seat majority, and represented fewer Americans than Democrats, but were denied a tiny handful of extremist ideologues on lower courts? Wasn't their battle cry "up or down vote?"

Posted by: John1263 | April 23, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

the great repulsive way...
delay
nick pick
find something wrong at all costs
point the finger
tell everyone about it so you can direct specific blame....

if you don't live OUR repulsive conservative way, we will make sure your journey is hard.
Make life hard. Republicans are great at it.

Posted by: TheBabeNemo | April 23, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Hold up the confirmation, for at least another 8 weeks

Posted by: hclark1 | April 23, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Governor Sebelius is for abortion rights. Not for or against abortion for everyone. For the right of women and families to deal with family matters within the family and not turn it over to prosecutors.

For those who don't remember when abortion was illegal, girls and women were being butchered by amateurs. You want to return to those days?

And for those who call themselves conservatives, when did you decide the government would be the best arbiter of who needs an abortion? Under that system, a 13 year old raped by her father or brother or uncle would have to go before a prosecutor and a judge and a medical board and submit to a humiliating system of interviews and tests and more.

What kind of conservatives are you to want government doing that?

Posted by: kcbob | April 23, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with the Sebelius nomination but about Senator Kyl. A number of years ago I listened to his speech on the Senate floor about the dreaded "death tax" and his opposition to it and he went on and on about how librarians, and mechanics, other people of low income filed for the federal estate tax. I was puzzled because at that time it was limited to those single people who left an estate over 750,000. Now it is 2 or 3 million I believe. And then I realized that he did not say they paid it, he said they filed for it and they would have been informed that they didn't have to pay it. An attorney friend told me that he had people worried about the federal estate tax they would have to pay with small estates and he had to tell them they wouldn't have to pay anything. And Sen. Kyl and the Republicans are still playing the same old game--false information or misleading statements and protecting the very rich who in most cases haven't paid any taxes on the money they inherit, and will have ways to get around it. And small farms and businesses are protected-just read the info and make up your own mind but for goodness sake don't listen to these people who were silent when Bush ran the country into the ground and now are screaming for fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: jeand1 | April 23, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

When most Americans are experiencing 'pain and hardship' in their lives, Senators in Washington are withholding confirmation because their 'religious' beliefs are getting in the way. Unbelievable! Sirs, "we have work to do-- call the people's business."

Just cannot belief that at one time in my life, I thought Republicans had the 'brain power to: learn, adapt and move this nation forward. Do they have a sense of reality. Time for another 'Anderson, Ross Pero etc. to start organizing for a third party.

Because for now, a party and one/half cannot lead us successfuly into the 21st century. http://manchestersquare.blogspot.com

Posted by: Victoria5 | April 23, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

When most Americans are experiencing 'pain and hardship' in their lives, Senators in Washington are withholding confirmation because their 'religious' beliefs are getting in the way. Unbelievable! Sirs, "we have work to do-- call the people's business."

Just cannot belief that at one time in my life, I thought Republicans had the 'brain power to: learn, adapt and move this nation forward. Do they have a sense of reality. Time for another 'Anderson, Ross Pero etc. to start organizing for a third party.

Because for now, a party and one/half cannot lead us successfuly into the 21st century. http://manchestersquare.blogspot.com

Posted by: Victoria5 | April 23, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

60 votes needed to confirm? If the GOP keeps using the filibuster as an every-day weapon, nuke 'em. Just like they almost did when the Dems balked at W's nutcase judicial nominees.

Posted by: Garak | April 23, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Kyl fears the evidence based approach? Nothing quite like "evidence" upon which to base one's decision. But then again, the GOP has never been about evidence. These are the people that believe that evolution and tobacco's links to cancer are junk science, but believe it is proper to teach creationism in science classrooms.

The Party of NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! strikes again. An intellectually and morally bankrupt political party that would rather see this country fail for their own ambition and lust for power. Traitors.

Posted by: VeloStrummer | April 23, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse


For Agent G: It is the DHHS, or Department of Health and Human Services.

Posted by: dotellen | April 23, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse


The party of NO! says NO! once again. Sen Kyl is on the side of the 'health industry,' not the side of health care providers. Any health care provider who is honestly committed to providing the best possible care for patients will welcome research on the comparative effectiveness of disease treatments.

Posted by: dotellen | April 23, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

The article fails to mention the cabinet department that Sebelius was chosen for.

Posted by: AgentG | April 23, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Kyl admits he's afraid of facts:

"Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) opposes Sebelius because of the Obama administration's support for research on the comparative effectiveness of disease treatments. He said he fears the evidence-based approach, coupled with information on price, could lead to rationing of care."

Right. Why would we want to know which treatments actually work and how much they cost?

And my favorite talking point of all...he's a afraid of rationing health care. As if it weren't rationed already.


Posted by: JohnQuimby | April 23, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

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