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Obama 'Shocked and Outraged' by Tiller Shooting

President Obama issued a statement today condemning the shooting death this morning of Kansas abortion doctor George Tiller.

Obama said in a statement, "However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence."

Posted at 6:20 PM ET on May 31, 2009
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Scott Roeder performed a post-birth abortion.
While a jerk like that belongs in jail it's just as wrong to blame everyone in the pro-life movement for the acts of a crazed individual as it would be to blame all blacks in urban areas because of violent crimes committed by a few black people.
When asked when life begins Obama said that question was beyond his pay grade. So, the fact that Obama is allowing abortion shows he knows he could be enabling genocide. A whole lot of Democrats received millions of dollars between them from Tiller and they shielded him from laws. Those enablers will burn in hell with Tiller. Many of those babies came out crying until their skulls were crushed.

His bogus so called Christian church where he was a deacon says that a developing life in the womb does not have an absolute right to be born. www.elca.org

Posted by: mpm2 | June 4, 2009 1:05 AM

What often seems lost in the debate surrounding abortion is the presumption by some that such a choice is an easy one. I can't imagine this to be the case. Instead of arguing about abortion, why don't we 1) focus on preventing unwanted pregnancies by providing affordable birth control options and 2) provide for all children already on this earth in need of food, health care, a home...

Posted by: pj2008 | June 1, 2009 8:22 PM

This is an unfortunate by-product of a dying ultra-conservative movement where violence is seen as the only option to get their views expressed. If conservatives truly want to win the war of ideas and ideaoglogy, then they and their republican representatives should be stepping forward and truly condemning this act by denoting the ulimate hyprocisy of using murder to advance the "pro-life" agenda. Until then this movement will be viewed no more differently than any other group that commits acts of terrorism like this supposedly in the name of god to advance their political agenda.

Many "pro-lifers" on this board have posted non sequitur agruements demonstrating how detached from reality a "pro-lifer" views the world.

Another point is that "pro-lifers" believe they are fighting some sort injustice What they are fighting for is a percieved moral injustice. This I believe many "pro-lifers" cannot distinguish between: a social injustice and moral injustice. Therefore,forcing their sense of morality onto others and incognizent of the fact that there is no difference between what they want to do and the Taliban and AlQaida are trying to do in other countries.

Posted by: Ironcomments | June 1, 2009 7:25 PM

Unfortunately women have let the men back into power. The Bible was written by men, women were subservient. When women ruled the men were afraid & their egos were threatened.
What business is it of any of you whether or not someone needs to end a pregnancy? Or a gay couple lives next door? Does it threaten your homelife? Does it threaten your religion? IS THERE A THREAT TO YOU PERSONALLY? If so I'd like to hear what it is.
You might want to take another look at yourselves - you people who profess to be Christians but are willing to kill & maim.

Posted by: Tonisongbird34 | June 1, 2009 6:07 PM

Tiller the Killer was willing to drill a hole in the head of ANY baby with nothing more than a willing adult's consent and a little cash. With or without defects of any kind, it made no difference to him. He's where he ought to be---GONE. We haven't even bothered to keep count of the number of perfectly formed and viable babies he heinously killed as they struggled for life. The fact that he would then go to church for a little fellowship and worship is obscenely absurd. Maybe he was somehow confused about that "Suffer the Little Children" line in the Bible and thought he was doing God's work???
I could care less what Obama or any other like minded moron thinks of the sacrifical act of Tiller's Killer.

Spare me the hypocrisy and ignorance of people who thump their chests while talking about the importance of our values when they condemn acts that would scare a terrorist or make them uncomfortable for a few days while they see No problem at all with killing innocent and completely healthy unborn Americans because their arrival would inconvenience someone. Anyone okay with killing healthy babies at any age has no moral ground for talking about values of any kind, much less human rights.
My only regret is that Tiller's assasin used a gun instead of a Black and Decker drill with a spade bit. But then life is never really fair...

Posted by: suttondb | June 1, 2009 5:01 PM

This is an unfortunate by-product of a dying ultra-conservative movement where violence is seen as the only option to get their views expressed. If conservatives truly want to win the war of ideas and ideaoglogy, then they and their republican representatives should be stepping forward and truly condemning this act by denoting the ulimate hyprocisy of using murder to advance the "pro-life" agenda. Until then this movement will be viewed no more differently than any other group that commits acts of terrorism like this supposedly in the name of god to advance their political agenda.

Posted by: Ironcomments | June 1, 2009 4:43 PM

I say, this is simply a good start!

What kind of a so-called 'church' would let a monster like this into their congregation, anyway? They need to hit their knees right now and ask forgiveness, then seek the true will of God, because they obviously haven't done so before or have terribly lost his path somewhere along the way.

If the so-called 'pastor' of this alleged 'church' had done his job as per God's word, this killing would not have happened, at least not in the building it occurred in, because this monster would have either repented and changed his Satanic ways or else he would have been kicked out of the congregation by the practice of church discipline, as required by God's word. Personally, I think the 'pastor' needs to be kicked out for gross negligence and dereliction of duty.

Remember, the truth may be ugly, but it is ALWAYS the truth!

Posted by: Ugly_Truth | June 1, 2009 4:27 PM

jimconch:

Unfortunately, it is also legal (so was the Holocaust). We need to keep working to change the hearts and minds of women through Christ Jesus.

Posted by: JakeD | June 1, 2009 1:40 PM

Killing innocent unborn children is not a difficult issue, mr president, it is a heinous act of violence.
jim conch

Posted by: jimconch | June 1, 2009 1:35 PM

According to CNN.com: "No motive for the killing was immediately known. If Tiller's killing stemmed from his work [however], he would be the fourth U.S. physician killed over abortion since 1993. Leading anti-abortion groups condemned his shooting, emphasizing that they wanted to shut down Tiller's practice by legal means."

STATEMENT BY ALASKA'S GOVERNOR:

"I feel sorrow for the Tiller family. I respect the sanctity of life and the tragedy that took place today in Kansas clearly violates respect for life. This murder also damages the positive message of life, for the unborn, and for those living. Ask yourself, 'What will those who have not yet decided personally where they stand on this issue take away from today's event in Kansas?'

Regardless of my strong objection to Dr. Tiller's abortion practices, violence is never an answer in advancing the pro-life message."

Posted by: JakeD | June 1, 2009 1:25 PM

Domestic terrorists are being created by organizations such as Operation Rescue. If they felt no responsibility why, within minutes of the good doctors shooting, did they break the link to the web page they have kept on Dr. Tiller for years? They are guilty and they know it. You can't keep putting out such hate and not expect something to happen. Arrest the domestic terrorists that created men such as the one that just killed Dr. Tiller.

Posted by: alaskan2 | June 1, 2009 1:07 PM

Abortion is a very personal decision and the Government of the United States has no business taking any position on it. That said where is the line drawn between abortion, infanticide and murder? How about one year old? Why not 12 years old or the age of majority?

Our current president is playing to the mob. He tells us on the one hand that he would encourage his own daughters to abort an early unwanted pregnancy and proudly claims that his 17/18 year old white unmarried mother pregnant by an African male years older had him. If Rove v Wade had been the law of the land or if his mothers parents shared his advice to their daughter would he have ended up in the medical waste of an abortion clinic? One can only guess based on his own advice to his daughters....

I have yet to meet a woman who, ten years after aborting her child, does not feel deep regret, sadness and/or guilt because of her decision.

This is NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE and to make it one is unforgivable. We as a society can honor motherhood and the females who choose it without the government taking a position either way.

There are no circumstances short of acts of treason or acts of war against the country where a president or any other publicly elected official is free to express his opinion on the guilt or innocence of an accused person. If one chooses to "play to the mob" he/she should resign the office and go into an appropriate business.

Posted by: donaldsheldon1 | June 1, 2009 12:54 PM

"cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence." What do you call the murder of 800,000 babies a year in the united states mr. president?

Posted by: ajnmize | June 1, 2009 12:36 PM

"But this doctor apparently did late term abortions which probably were not necessary."
Posted by: RealTexan1 | June 1, 2009 8:59 AM

RealTexan: How can you make such a statement???? Did you review the individual circumstances of each case? Way too many people in this country spew statements without any knowledge of the facts. Usually regurgitating some talk show host's rant.

In 1991 and until his murder, Dr. Tiller was one of the few doctors in this country who performed late-term abortions. Despite what Operation Rescue claimed, none of his clients were ending pregnancies on a whim. None of them wanted to be there.
Each case was a tragedy -- a much anticipated child discovered to have only a partially formed head, a baby that was dying in the womb and had to be delivered, a child with medical problems so profound as to be unimaginable, a diagnosis that meant a child's life outside its mother's body would be both brief and brutal.
Tiller's clients often included couples who had been hoping to become parents but had their hearts broken late in pregnancy when they received horrifying medical news about their much-wanted babies.
-Mary Mapes

Posted by: Pamela0071 | June 1, 2009 12:06 PM

I recall so very vividly the day Bush spoke out against the "terrorists" who struck on 9/11. He said "terrorists were outlaws and should hunted down and killed whereever they to be found." He went on to say other things that made it clear that "terrorists" were less than human and that anyone could shoot one down without fear of reprisal or arrest. Hearing him say that brought such joy. For hundreds of years terrorist wearing white robes have been terrorizing African Americans, Jews and other non-WASPs, with impunity, particularly throughout the south. More often than not, other accomplices and supporters wearing black robes and others wearing blue and brown uniforms aided and abetted them and otherwise obstucted their convictions. So, when the President gave the greenlight to go after them, I was overjoyed. Unfortunately, one or more of America's homegrown terrorists or their supporters must have realized what the President had done. The very next day, Bush added the term "international" to terrorists who struck on 9/11. Thus, he left terrorists such as the one who assasinated the doctor in church free to continue their lawlessness against other Americans.

Another instance in which Bush bespoke himself and but quickly re-grouped and never uttered the phrase again is this: He said "We are fighting to ensure that Iraqi oil is kept free for the benefit of the Iraqi people." If brave young Americans can be sent across the sea to free the resources of Iraq for the benefit of the Iraqi, then what about American oil for the American people? Seems pretty logical to me that if Iraqi oil, as Bush stated belongs to the Iraqi people, then why doesn't American oil belong to the American people?

Just a question, ya'll! Bush was elected or selected twice and he suggested it. Don't get angry at me for musing over what he meant. Ask him.

Posted by: turnerwred1234 | June 1, 2009 11:35 AM

Murder is murder, flat out.
This man murdered the Abortion Doctor in cold blood and as per our laws, he must pay the price.
Babies can live outside of the womb at 6 months into their term, so aborting a fully developed baby at full term is MURDER no matter what the LAW may say.
So, as a Country (which was founded on Judeo-Christian principals) do we abhor cold blooded murder of any kind?
I think no "Talk show host nor talking head" pursuaded this man to act. He acted of his own free will and must pay the consequences to both man and God.

Posted by: sburkhalter | June 1, 2009 10:22 AM

Well, I say I am shocked too, but I do not share the President's rage over the incident. Not sure how I feel really. Doctors are "generally" good men, and we need "some" abortion doctors for abortions that should happen (i.e., for medical reasons).

But we also do 100,000's of abortions that do not need to happen. Abortion should not be NOT a form of birth control; take the pill, ladies.

But this doctor apparently did late term abortions which probably were not necessary (maybe some were, maybe some were not). I guess I will adopt a neutral stance: no sympathy for either party involved in this.

Posted by: RealTexan1 | June 1, 2009 8:59 AM

a lone nutter in a powder blue Taurus. No shock only awe at how easy it will have been for him/it to get a handgun.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | June 1, 2009 1:23 AM

Kind of ironic the way these so called pro lifers resort to killing people and blowing stuff up when they don't get their way.

Pro Life...my a*ss!

Posted by: DrainYou | June 1, 2009 12:26 AM

Wanna hear some REAL hypocrisy?
My unborn son has a disease called Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome. Basically, only the right side of his heart is operable, when born, he will not be able to survive on his own without open-heart surgery. One of the options they give to the parents (and apparently is chosen by Christians) is called "compassionate care", where they birth the child, and let it expire on it's own accord.

BTW: We are having the child, it's our "choice"

Posted by: JRM2 | June 1, 2009 12:21 AM

The republicans had control of the three branches of Government for six years yet did nothing to try to change Roe vs Wade because it would kill their election issue.

All you "pro-lifers" out there should be angry about that.

Are any of you sure you want to go on record as supporting an act of domestic terrorism?, if so, then please speak up now.

And since you don't seem to give a rat's petutie about UNBORN Iraqi lives or any children after they're born I think you should change you moniker to: Pro-American birthers"

Posted by: JRM2 | June 1, 2009 12:12 AM

"Terrorism is a policy or ideology of violence[1] intended to intimidate or cause terror[2] for the purpose of "exerting pressure on decision making by state bodies."
============
By definition it was an act of terrorism. Should his supporters be charged wit aiding and abetting an act of terrorism?

Be careful what you say.

Posted by: JRM2 | June 1, 2009 12:06 AM

So, we have a bombmaker, tax protester, member of the "sovereignity" movement, anti-abortion zealot and Operation Rescue member: the arrested suspect (Scott Roeder of Merriam, Kansas) manages to fit every stereotype of a right-wing lunatic fringe militia teabagger.


No wonder the GOPer's can't win elections anymore.


Posted by: DrainYou | June 1, 2009 12:03 AM

I think it is terrible a gun was used - better a vacuum pump (vacuum cleaner, better yet) and hose would seem to be more appropriate . But at least we are rid of this mass murderer.

Posted by: kingfish20815 | May 31, 2009 11:55 PM

Of course the Obama is outraged. He just lost another contributor.

Posted by: Tupac_Goldstein | May 31, 2009 11:17 PM

Posted by: usadblake | May 31, 2009 11:03 PM

Earl, I think your insight is brilliant. As you said, my Bible says to respect life, period. But how can you expect someone to respect the life of another when the national discussion has reached the point where we have ex-Vice Presidents and talk show hosts saying that the means (no matter the means) justify the end. As a Christian, I am opposed to abortion (in many though not all circumstances) and torture and murder and the death penalty because none of them show any respect for the individual. The argument that this fellow who murdered Dr. Tiller is making with his actions is no different than the argument being made by Vice President Cheney in my opinion. Lives were probably saved so therefore our actions are justified. Though Vice President Cheney did not by any means stoop to the level of this fellow it is the same despicable logic.

Posted by: robbinsjoh | May 31, 2009 10:46 PM

jschmo, spare us your self-justifying false equivalences.

Posted by: nodebris | May 31, 2009 10:27 PM

The end of 20th Century fundamentalism in religion and politics is coming to an end. The remaining fanatics will grasp at lost power - and insanity like the murder of a Doctor will rage up. But the movement is essentially fading. ...............


http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/28/the-rise-and-fall-of-20th-century-fundamentalism/

Posted by: glclark4750 | May 31, 2009 10:13 PM

Killing a doctor who perform legal abortions is not the answer. One wrong does not deserve another wrong.

Unfortunately, we are not living in a society that is so hyped up on doing wrong for the sake of doing right that it has lost its moral compass. People like Cheney, Limbaugh and others do not help to foster a society based on civility, justice, and human rights. As bad as it may seem, a living, breathing human being can never equate to an unborn fetus. This protection of the unborn at all costs does not square with my Bible.

Posted by: EarlC | May 31, 2009 9:44 PM

Guess the feds are still hanging their sorry heads for warning us that domestic terrorists could include anti-abortionists...

Posted by: falasifa | May 31, 2009 9:38 PM

The man who did this was obviously not pro-life. What he did was wrong. Interesting how sensitive some people are to this particular murder more than others (including the president to the point where he made a statement). Why can't everyone agree that murder is murder...whether or not it's a fetus, an old lady, a pregnant woman, a prisoner serving a life sentence, a drug dealer. Someone who is truly pro-life is against all of the above. I see comments on here that Conservative talking heads should speak out against this killing. Well, then I think that every mayor/Governor in this country should speak out every time a gang banger or anyone else for that matter is killed in their city/State.

Posted by: jschmo | May 31, 2009 9:14 PM

Language matters. Equating abortion with murder allows emotionally unstable people to feel they are justified in killing others. We've seen it before: the doctor in Buffalo, numerous bombing at reproductive health clinics and now this terrible assassination in Wichita. It's time for all media -- especially on the right -- to deny a forum for those who cavalierly accuse others of murder. Language matters.

Posted by: dp284 | May 31, 2009 8:26 PM

"pro life" people killing others. Just a hint of irony.

Posted by: Chops2 | May 31, 2009 8:21 PM

I wonder if this was a gun, legal by standards, used to shoot this person. Why aren't there reputable groups out there, speaking out against this type of gun use?, legal owned or not. Maybe do it because it's the patriotic thing to do? With the message being, don't try this at home or something? Can't a more peaceful resolvement be easier to find? Sad...

Posted by: opp88 | May 31, 2009 8:00 PM

I wonder if this was a gun, legal by standards, used to shoot this person. Why aren't there reprepatable groups out there, speaking out against this type of gun use?, legal owned or not. Maybe do it because it's the patriotic thing to do? With the message being, don't try this at home or something? Can't a more peaceful resolvement be easier to find? Sad...

Posted by: opp88 | May 31, 2009 7:53 PM

While the RNC is lambasting Obama for flying with Secret Service to New York for dinner and a show, they conveniently forget that violent members of the Far Right hate Obama much more than they hated this doctor who was murdered at church. Nothing good for the country can come of this. The Secret Service says Obama has received more threats on his life than any sitting President, from waaay back when he was a candidate. Grow up! This kind of stuff is what the Taliban does.

Posted by: asja | May 31, 2009 7:33 PM

Is this action surprising to anyone when the "radical right" continuously blame President Barack Obama for this practice, be it on FOXNEWS CABLE with Sean Hannity's America, Glenn Beck. Others as Michelle Bachmann, Michael Steele, Sarah Palin and Churches has commented on this practice with villianizing rhetoric. Does the discussion have to end with violence?

Hannity, Steele, Bachmann, Limbaugh, Beck, Palin even Newt, Cheney and the GOP should step foward calling this act is senseless.

All should publically advocate for peaceful non-violent solutions, ASAP.

Posted by: opp88 | May 31, 2009 7:27 PM

Not sure why Washington Post didn't print the whole statement, but it's below:

"I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr. George Tiller as he attended church services this morning. However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence."

Posted by: associate20 | May 31, 2009 7:09 PM

Deepest sympathies to Dr. Tiller's family. His willingness to provide abortion services to women, even after he had already been attacked (and threatened countless times), speaks to his courage.

And--in anticipation of the many hateful comments to come--even those who oppose abortion should remember that those, like Dr. Tiller, who work in reproductive health care--and I speak as one of those workers--also prevent unwanted pregnancies (and thus many abortions) every day...by providing birth control.

Posted by: iona123 | May 31, 2009 6:51 PM

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