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In ASU Speech, Obama Calls Upon Students to Seek Lasting Achievement


A graduate student photographs President Obama as he delivers the commencement address during the Arizona State University graduation ceremony at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Ariz. (Joshua Lott/Getty Images)

By Michael D. Shear
President Obama told students at Arizona State University that they are graduating at an uncertain and challenging time for the country, but urged them to reject the old formulas for success and shape a new future for their generation.

Speaking at the aptly-named Sun Devil Stadium in 98-degree heat at just after 7 p.m., Obama told about 60,000 people that the country's economic slump will be overcome by the kind of innovation that the graduates represent.

"I know starting your careers in troubled times is a challenge. But it is also a privilege," he said. "Because it is moments like these that force us to try harder, to dig deeper, to discover gifts we never knew we had -- to find the greatness that lies within each of us."

Obama's appearance at the university followed a minor controversy that erupted when the school decided against conferring an honorary degree on the new president during today's ceremony.

Despite having given such an honor to many politicians, the school spokesman said initially that Obama had not established a "body of work" that would qualify him for a degree.

Obama, a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law Scool, is the country's first African American president, a fact that many critics of the school say should have immediately made him a candidate for the honorary degree.

The school's president stuck to the decision, but said the school has had a policy since 2003 of not giving honorary degrees to sitting politicians. Instead, the school will name its largest scholarship program after Obama.

Obama joked about the controversy.

"I have to tell you, I really thought it was much ado about nothing, but I think we all learned an important lesson," he said. "I learned to never again pick another team over the Sun Devils in my NCAA bracket. It won't happen again. And President Crow and the Board of Regents will soon learn all about being audited by the IRS."

And later he appeared to tweak the school by discussing the need for graduates to make their mark in the world in large and small ways. "That is what building a body of work is all about -- it's about the daily labor, the many individual acts, the choices large and small
that add up to a lasting legacy," he told the crowd.

Obama's advice to the 9,000 graduates was to ignore the "brass rings" that many of them had been taught to seek: money, status, titles. Instead, he urged them to reject "the elevation of appearance over substance, celebrity over character, short-term gain over lasting achievement."

Returning the a populist theme that worked for him during the campaign, the president sneered at the pursuit of wealth and said it was greed that has caused many of the country's problems.

"The trappings of success may be a by-product of this larger mission, but they can't be the central thing," he said. "Just ask Bernie Madoff."

Obama said the country is pinning its hopes for the future on a new generation that will return to the values of people who helped desegregate the South, firefighters who helped save lives during 9-11 and entrepreneurs who sparked the internet revolution.

"That is the great American story: young people just like you, following their passions, determined to meet the times on their own terms," he said. "They weren't doing it for the money. Their titles weren't fancy -- ex-slave, minister, student, citizen. A whole bunch of them didn't get honorary degrees. But they changed the course of history -- and so can you."

By Web Politics Editor  |  May 13, 2009; 11:04 PM ET
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"Obama, a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law Scool, is the country's first African American president, a fact that many critics of the school say should have immediately made him a candidate for the honorary degree."

This is at the heart of racism. The anti-dote to racism is color-blindness. As long as institutions like the United Negro College Fund, NAACP, Black History Month, etc. exist, racism will expand.

Posted by: larry51 | May 15, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

"He used teleprompters"....unlike that ever-articulate Bush. Right. "He ran up the debt" - during the worst economic crisis in 70 years - exactly the time that deficit spending is needed, as opposed to the past 8 years of totally mindless deficit spending by Republicans. You almost have to pity the few remaining Republicans if this is what they are reduced to. Then again, this is the party whose flagship issue in the 1990's was Monica Lewinsky, so maybe "reduced" is not the correct word.

Posted by: catalyzer | May 14, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

The Audacity of a Self Absorbed President: Obama, the worlds largest borrower tells ASU students to live without debt.

Posted by: robtr | May 14, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

If Obama wants young people to make American a better country, why doesn't he do his part--and urge the young people to do their part--to end the abortion holocaust? Hundreds of thousands of babies are torn limb from limb in their mothers' wombs every year. It is an unspeakable, unfathomably cruel thing.

Posted by: yourstruly1991 | May 14, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama has degrees from ivy league schools. Screw that 'honorary' degree from ASU. He earned his degrees.

How many singers and actors get 'honorary' degrees in this country, and many of them only graduated from high school?

ASU can keep its small honor. He is the President of the United States. That's all the honor he needs.

Posted by: abootstrapper | May 14, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

George W. Bush accepted an honorary degree from Yale in May of 2001. I am sure that he had accomplished MUCH more than Obama has.

I once had the sobering experience of hearing GWB in person without his teleprompter. He was beyond inarticulate; he was incoherent. It was frightening beyond belief.

I am happy to read that Obama articulated the value of intrinsic goals. The generation who grew up on extrinsic metrics of the "Are you better off now than you were four years ago" me-generation values of Reaganism and its offshoots need to hear the alternative at least mentioned.

Unfortunately, I guess this sounds like socialism to those who have sold their souls to Caesar.

Posted by: JimBfromNC | May 14, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

The Anti-Christ can really cut back on his Speeches, and just sum it up quickly-With his now typical Comic Liner tossed in:

"BOHICA"

"Not just the Fox People-Ha Ha!"

"No, I mean all of you!"

"BOHICA!" :-I

Posted by: SAINT---The | May 14, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama has been a community organizer, editor of the Harvard Law Review, lawyer, Constitutional Law professor, Illinois State legislator, US Senator, and President.

So this is not enough for an undergraduate degree from ASU? What have the undergrads there accomplished?

What should he have done? Been in Golf Management (a major at ASU)?

If an ASU grad achieved what Obama has achieved would they say he is not worthy and his work is yet to be done?

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | May 14, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Despite having given such an honor to many politicians, the school spokesman said initially that Obama had not established a "body of work" that would qualify him for a degree.

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So, let me get this straight, being the leader of the free world is not enough for their measly "honorary" degree. LOL.
What a bunch of idiots.

Posted by: MUPPET | May 14, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"Since I'm not getting an honorary degree from Arizona State, I'll just have to stand here in the robes of my (earned) Juris Doctor from Harvard."

I personally think they're both right; ASU to not award a sitting pol, and Obama to not insist on special treatment, and not at all care that he's not an ASU alum.

Posted by: sampjack | May 14, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

President Obama is too kind to these guys.

ASU insulted the United States of America not just the President, when they snubbed him.

President Obama shouldn't have gone.

The ASU faculty and staff don't deserve a man as good as him to help them.

Posted by: AmericanDemocracy | May 14, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

My president!
RIGHT ON!
Not perfect, but better.

Posted by: TOMHERE | May 14, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

President Obama is a class act and y'all just can't stand it!

Posted by: vannw1 | May 14, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

i honestly don't understand the honorary degree thing - does everybody who does the commencement get one? does anyone really want a degree (honorary or otherwise) from ASU? Why is this a biog deal? Its almost as dumb as being "shocked" that a fringe group of students at a catholic university might protest a sitting democratic president b/c of abortion views.

If you ask me, the president shouldn't waste his time doing commencement speeches in the first place (other than to his or her own alma matter).

Posted by: ballgame | May 14, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Wow, DriveByPoster and ImpeachObama. You are two bitter people!

One of you thinks President Obama once ran a community center, which shows you don't have a clue about what a community organizer is or does, and certainly you have no idea about Barack Obama's work in Chicago.

The other apparently thinks (a) that Barack Obama, who authored two bestselling books, is wholly dependent on speechwriters; and (b) that he is the first speaker in the history of the world to use a teleprompter while giving a prepared speech. That you keep harping on these things tells the rest of us that you're either purposefully obtuse or woefully ignorant.

It's almost entertaining to know that a remarkable man who showed such humor and passion in the first commencement address during his presidency makes people like you so angry and vile. You'll get an ulcer; I hope you have health insurance.

Posted by: lisa9 | May 14, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

fairfoxvoter sums up the essence of the speech and setting well. Billb5, as Catholics, we agree with your sentiments on the Bishop's unintended single minded focus; ie. alienation of faithful through hypocrisy as where were these "keepers of the faith" bishops on the pro death penalty politicians who received honorary degrees.

Posted by: IndependentCO | May 14, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

As a graduate of ASU (BA 1988) I am embarrassed by the regents failure to award an honorary doctorate to the President of the United States. While a pro forma ritual, the denial of the honor is actually more symbolic than if it had actually been awarded.

But then I only have to remember that ASU has a long history of dishonorable and/or questionable actions. One has only to look at the graduation rates of its "student athletes" - which is abysmal, many of these young people leave the university as illiterate and uneducated as they came in when recruited; its many sanctions by the NCAA for recruiting violations - all so that local, affluent white boosters have sports entertainment; its rush to take a great deal of money from local corporations to fund programs in the business school - at the expense of programs in humanities and social sciences; and my personal favorite: soliciting an endowed chair in international relations named for the late Barry Goldwater - who then was the first inhabitant of that chair. What all of this speaks to is the inherent conservative hypocrisy of the state and its largest educational institution, and also why I have never given one dollar to the alumni association - beyond the state tax dollars I was required to pay while an Arizona resident.

Posted by: alisongkc1 | May 14, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

BEWARE OF LOW-FLYING AIRCRAFT?


Forget for a moment (if you can) that the "socialist" George W. Bush was the one who ran up the deficit and presided over the Robin Hood-in-reverse Wall Street bailouts.

It appears this "Tea Party Redux" is part and parcel of an orchestrated plan to call into question the legitimacy of the Obama presidency -- and the patriotism of his party and his supporters.

Is this second round of tea parties part of a campaign to "soften the battlefield" for an incipient coup d'etat by dark forces within the federal bureauracy...

...the forces that would "desensitize" the population to a pervasive military presence by "terror buzzing" population centers with low-flying aircraft?

I could not help but notice that President Obama's address to ASU graduates was nearly drowned out a couple of times by what sounded like low-flying aircraft.

Did any of the White House press corps notice this? If so, please check in here. And read this:

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

Posted by: scrivener50 | May 14, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

The president should have boycotted ASU after their politically motivated decision to not give him an honorary degree and the disrespectful nature of the conservative students there.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | May 14, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Obama's advice to the 9,000 graduates was to ignore the "brass rings" that many of them had been taught to seek: money, status, titles.
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That's certainly an interesting comment from a man who has been pursuing status and titles his entire life.

Posted by: wolfcastle | May 14, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

JuniusPublicus-

I do not think thievery in the form of receiving government handouts derived at the expense of taxing the productive is restricted to any race or ethnicity. There is a large segment of lay abouts of all races, who are perfectly comfortable leeching off the state and offering nothing of value in return.

You are grossly ingorant of the role of business in this nation. Even FDRs liberal think tank knew that he could not remain anti-business in a nation basically built on business. It is business, not the government that employs most Americans. When a man like Andy Mellon went out there and started up his industry he employed hundreds of thousands of individuals and offered opportuntity to them all. Rather than villify such a man, I would see that man as an example to which we all should strive. I am not alone in this accessment. Lincoln said

"Property is the fruit of labor...property is desirable...is a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built."

You fault me with straw mans then use one on me. The point I make with my straw man is that our poor have it good from the worlds standards, and in many parts of the world our poor would be considered rich. We need to shift our focus from the plight of the poor, to upholding a positive example towards which to strive. Your ticket out of poverty is by following the inspirational pathes of great men who worked hard and made something of themselves, rather than wallowing in self pity and cant do defeatism, collecting your victim entitlement and forever cementing your mark on this world as nothing.

Posted by: Wiggan | May 14, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Wow, drivebyposter, not even trying to hide your racism! I see you feel, How dare this "uppity" black man lead our country? Doesn't he know his place?

It was a classy speech, marked by humor, and quite inspirational. Too bad those who need inspiration to think on a higher plane will not read it for such, but will only seek to tear apart individual phrases and find fault.

Obama doesn't need honorary degrees he has actual Ivy League degrees, earned through intellect and hard work. Way superior to anything ASU can give out. He has money that he earned through writing, not inheriting it like Bushie. He know what it was like to be without money.

And he was born in Hawaii, for god's sake. Get a grip, people.

Posted by: msame | May 14, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

The GOP/right wing can't stand the fact that America loves Obama and he is tackling the issues with very strong support. ASU must be under the McCain thumb which is why they would not honor Obama. But Obama does not care. Obama values what is important and it ain't an honorary degree. Obama knows that his job is to get this country through this very difficult time as best he can. The GOP doesn't want America to succeed, but Obama does. The GOP is a disgrace to this country.

Posted by: goldie2 | May 14, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Wonderful how Wiggan creates horrible straw men (women): there they are, welfare moms with 52" plasma TVs, watching Springer and taking money from the rich. Pulleeeze. Let's face it: the implied subtext here is black people taking white people's money. Get out an volunteer at a food pantry, or housing assistance nonprofit, and see what is going on. Apparently Wiggan has no problem with corporate execs getting their own version of government welfare in the form of biased tax laws, lax enforcement, and corporate corruption. I am more worried at some crooked CEO walking away with hundreds of millions (you know this is happening!) in "compensation" than some mom getting $800 month in support.

Posted by: JuniusPublicus | May 14, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Bam.. is the country's first African American president...Bam is also half white. I wonder why the press keeps on making him less than what he really is...Americans just can't get over the perception that black is underclass and the whites are overclass...Its the superiority vs inferiority thing, isn't it?

Posted by: bberka1 | May 14, 2009 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Bam.. is the country's first African American president...Bam is also half white. I wonder why the press keeps on making him less than what he really is...Americans just can't get over the perception that black is underclass and the whites are overclass...Its the superiority vs inferiority thing, isn't it?

Posted by: bberka1 | May 14, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Well this is definately motivational speech time for Obama. You see on the one hand through his entitlment philsophy and progressive steal from the rich, handout to the poor mentality, Obama is rearing an entire generation of adults to view their relationship to the government as one of dependence and entitlement. Furthermore the take home message through progressive redistribution is don't work hard, you will get penalized for it.

So he has to actually motivate them with something to get them to go out there and do something of objective value. When no longer one must depend on ones own hard labor to gain the basic necessities of life, you need something to replace that to get them off the couch, away from their 52" plasma TVs, and seek something more than collecting a welfare check and watching Jerry Springer all day.

Since he also abandons any notion of personal responsibility through his repeated example of blaming everything on Bush, he must replace personal responsibility with some new motivator else we will have a nation of people who blame everyone else for what is wrong in their own lives.

So the challenge is high for the chosen one. Let's see how gung ho this generation is to get out there and do something of objective value, rather than just leech in comfort off the warm secure embrace of the all encompassing tyrannical nanny state.

Posted by: Wiggan | May 14, 2009 7:56 AM | Report abuse

The bottom line is:

President Obama is a class act.

Arizona State University is not.

Oh yes FYI, all ye who denounce socialism, what do you call Social Security and Medicare? Are you ready to give these programs up?

Posted by: maryacarroll | May 14, 2009 7:51 AM | Report abuse

The right-wing wingnuts harp on Obama's birth cretificate (without a shred of evidence that something is amiss) but never seemed concerned that McCain was supposedly born in the Panama Canal Zone, itself a tenuous "natural born" citizenship, and his hospital record has mysteriously disappeared, probably becuase the hospital itself was outside the Canal Zone. But McCain is white, so "white is right." Goldwater was born in the "Territory" of Arizona, not then a part of the U.S., but no problem there either (remember, "white is right"). As for the honorary degree, ASU President Crow practices "Jim Crow" law, because, remember, "white is right;" can't give a degree to a Negro, right? Folks, look at your racist minds and hearts.

Posted by: JuniusPublicus | May 14, 2009 7:41 AM | Report abuse

President Obama's school records are sealed. We haven't a clue about his writings at Columbia and Harvard. Not one law review article has been published and he was President of the Harvard Law Review. When we are privy to what he wrote and his courses and of course some folks think we should also see his original birth certificate, also now sealed then maybe an Honorary Degree would be in order. Right now, Obama's past school and personal records, except for his seedy connections and mentors of Chicago are wrapped tight. Who knows whether evil or sunshine lurks there?

Posted by: mharwick | May 14, 2009 7:26 AM | Report abuse

Those poor, "dehydrated" souls. They SHOULD have drank more kool-aid!
Up with SOCIALISM!

Posted by: semperfi1973 | May 14, 2009 6:28 AM | Report abuse

I voted for change, not socialism. Obama is a deceptive fraud.

Posted by: bob59 | May 14, 2009 6:01 AM | Report abuse

This guidance from a multi-millionaire... do as I say not as I do.

Posted by: JoeTH | May 14, 2009 6:01 AM | Report abuse

It's really fun watching the dittohead rushsuckers posting these forums.

How can you identify them? It's not just the anti-Obama ranting, there are people doing that who think Rush is a scumbag. No, it's the obsession with the teleprompters.

Rush invents a list of things to hate, feeds into the ditto's head, and it is repeated ad-infinitum.

All presidents giving public speeches use teleprompters, you freaking idiots. All presidents use speechwriters, you inveterate morons.

Tell me, do you know how to wipe yourself without Rush's help?

Posted by: katavo | May 14, 2009 5:54 AM | Report abuse

Taking the case of Bernie Madoff et al into account, I think Mr. President is right when he warns graduates to refrain from greed and self centered action.
As to his qualification for the honorary degree, I don't see any "body of work" that exceeds an advice to new graduates not to act recklessly, being the first black president in prestigious and white dominated Harvard Law Review, raising from such a low position (from community organizer to head of state.) I think he is qualified for that honorary degree.
I wonder such an advice imported to my continent as well as my country.

Posted by: nageellee | May 14, 2009 3:54 AM | Report abuse


*sigh*

yes, obama is such an inspiration to us all..

especially as he read off of his teleprompters again. (they were visible after his speech)

obama is such a fraud. he can't even give a commencement speech without his speechwriters.

"yes arizona.. we can all become like me.. an uppity tall skinny dude from chicago that has no clue as to how to run anything bigger than a 2,000 person community center.. yes.. thank you.. thank you.. you are too kind.. why yes, i AM awesome.. thanks for your noticing.. thank you.. thank you... you may now form a single file line and come up and lick the bottom of my bare feet.. thank you.. thank you.. i am the messiah.. thank you.. thank you..."

Posted by: DriveByPoster | May 14, 2009 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Two criticisms: How is the quote about "Daily labors and individual acts" a tweak on the school?

Perhaps it's because tone is hard to judge through text alone, but "The trappings of success may be a by-product of this larger mission, but they can't be the central thing" does not seem like a "sneer" at wealth. It seems like the truth. People who allow the pursuit of money to become their main goal in life tend to be kinda miserable.

Posted by: Airbuilder7 | May 14, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

And Obama hasn't sought "money, status, titles"? Rather hypocritical of him to tell the graduates not to emulate him. Did he warn the graduates about the trillions of debt that his administration and Congress are rapidly building and that they would have to work 80-hour weeks to pay off that debt in taxes?

Posted by: judithod | May 14, 2009 1:31 AM | Report abuse


President Obama is a gentleman.

The guys as ASU are a bunch of bozo's.

Posted by: AmericanDemocracy | May 14, 2009 1:18 AM | Report abuse

The President of the University should resign immediately.

The insult wasn't just to the President, but to the United States of America.

President Obama may forgive them, but America won't.

Posted by: AmericanDemocracy | May 14, 2009 1:17 AM | Report abuse

If you haven't read the address, you should read it. Definitely worth your time.

Posted by: associate20 | May 14, 2009 1:03 AM | Report abuse

he was so inspiring at ASU--especially given the insult
Obama is the man

Posted by: Noahark | May 14, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

Sure, become a "community organizer" and use the corrupt political machine to get a prime piece of real estate below cost. Heck, we will even throw in a below market rate mortgage and get your wife's salary bumped up 3 times its value.

After he's out of office, BO will be flying private jets. He should STFU about other people wanting to get ahead.

Posted by: ImpeachObama | May 14, 2009 12:52 AM | Report abuse

"Returning the a populist theme that worked for him during the campaign, the president sneered at the pursuit of wealth and said it was greed that has caused many of the country's problems."

Obama is correct about greed causing many/most of America's problem.

People need to remember that Obama's advice to the students/graduates was not just pretty words. He lived the advice graduating from Columbia University and Harvard.

After Columbia he went to Chicago to be a low paid Community Organizer. After Harvard, he returned to Chicago to continue the work started as a Community Organizer. Presidents of the Harvard Review usually received top jobs, but Obama told a NYT reporter shortly after he started the President role that he was returning to Chicago.

Posted by: JimWalsh1 | May 14, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Nice post, fairfaxvoter.

Posted by: nodebris | May 14, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

I hope the right wing of the Catholic Church bishops listened to this speech. Maybe they will realize that there is more in life than a right to life attitude. There are greater issues to be solved.

William G Baerlocher

Posted by: BILLB5 | May 14, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

This is a good write-up but understates the point, I think, that the idea of a "body of work" served as a serious inspiration and major theme for the entire address, not just a playful tweak like the opening joke. I liked how he turned over the idea from many different angles and explored it. It's a perfect topic for a graduation ceremony. I was also glad to hear about the New Foundation again. That's not going away.

I also feel this write-up slightly exaggerates the "populist" tone. He didn't "sneer" at material success but suggested it was not enough and should be a byproduct of professional and personal success, not the goal itself. Surely most people agree with that.

For myself, I realized at the most inspiring section, beginning with Thomas Paine, how true it is that politicians campaign in poetry but govern in prose. At last for a paragraph or two, this brought back some of the poetry and it lifted up those graduates. God knows they need it at a moment like this.

Posted by: fairfaxvoter | May 13, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

This is a good write-up but understates the point, I think, that the idea of a "body of work" served as a serious inspiration and major theme for the entire address, not just a playful tweak like the opening joke. I liked how he turned over the idea from many different angles and explored it. It's a perfect topic for a graduation ceremony. I was also glad to hear about the New Foundation again. That's not going away.

I also feel this write-up slightly exaggerates the "populist" tone. He didn't "sneer" at material success but suggested it was not enough and should be a byproduct of professional and personal success, not the goal itself. Surely most people agree with that.

For myself, I realized at the most inspiring section, beginning with Thomas Paine, how true it is that politicians campaign in poetry but govern in prose. At last for a paragraph or two, this brought back some of the poetry and it lifted up those graduates. God knows they need it at a moment like this.

Posted by: fairfaxvoter | May 13, 2009 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully we are not blaming Barack Obama for the weather now, aptly named "dottydo." He was invited to speak at a commencement ceremony in Arizona. It is an extraordinarily hot state or at least has been so every time I have visited there. They knew what they were getting into. In fact, I'm sure that's why they have their graduation ceremony in the evening instead of the normal daytime graduation schedule for schools in other states. According to news coverage, there was also a climate-controlled indoor sports arena open to anyone at the ceremony who could not handle the outdoor termperature.

Posted by: fairfaxvoter | May 13, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

..."Obama had not established a "body of work" that would qualify him for a degree."...

..."President Crow and the Board of Regents will soon learn all about being audited by the IRS."...

I need a military to grind and you are it... would have been more honest.

The temperature is more like 126 in the arena due to the rock mass it is located on.

More than 100 people wound up with full blown Heat stroke, there were thousands dehydrated.

Posted by: dottydo | May 13, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

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