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Obama Says U.S. Must Be More 'Honest' With Israel

By Michael D. Shear
On the eve of his trip to the Middle East, President Obama promised today a dose of tough love for a new Israeli government that has signaled significant disagreement with his administration's policy for the region.

Obama described the U.S.-Israeli relationship as a special one in which Americans are "deeply sympathetic" toward what he called a "stalwart ally," but he made it clear that he will continue to push the country's new prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, toward acceptance of a Palestinian state.

"Part of being a good friend is being honest," Obama told National Public Radio in an interview taped this afternoon. "And I think there have been times where we are not as honest as we should be about the fact that the current direction, the current trajectory, in the region is profoundly negative, not only for Israeli interests but also U.S. interests. And that's part of a new dialogue that I'd like to see encouraged in the region."

Obama called the status quo "unsustainable when it comes to Israeli security," and he promised to use his trip to make clear that the United States will follow through on its commitment to peace in the region.

"It is important for us to be clear about what we believe will lead to peace," Obama said. "That there is not equivocation and there is not a sense that we expect only compromise on one side. It's going to have to be two-sided."


The president plans a speech in Cairo this week with which he intends to reach out to Muslims and the Arab world. In the interview, he said he plans to project "what our ideals are," but said the United States will not lecture other nations when they fall short on human rights and democracy.

"We're not going to get countries to embrace various of our values simply by lecturing or through military means," he said. "We can stand up for human rights, stand up for democracy. But I think it's a mistake for us to somehow suggest that we're not going to deal with countries around the world in the absence of their meeting all our criteria for democracy."

The president said that discussions with the militant Hamas party, which controls the Gaza Strip, could "potentially proceed," but only if the group accepts a set of conditions that include recognizing Israel's right to exist, renouncing violence and abiding by previous agreements.

Asked about the recent speech by former vice president Richard B. Cheney criticizing his national security approach, Obama quipped that "he also happens to be wrong." He cited a fact check that followed Cheney's speech and said he "didn't get a very good grade."

But the president said he welcomed the former vice president's comments and dismissed questions about Cheney's motives.

"I don't doubt the sincerity of the former vice president or the previous administration in wanting to protect the American people," Obama said, calling Cheney's speech "healthy. That's part of the debate. I don't begrudge anybody debating, sometimes ferociously."

But, he added, he is "very confident" that the policies he has adopted are the right ones to protect the American people.

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objective11 | June 1, 2009 10:06 PM claims as a "Fact" that "The early Zionists, including Menachem Begin, were the ones who got the terrorist ball rolling with their terror attacks in British Palestine".

Sorry to disappoint you but in March 1920, Arabs attacked and wiped out a Jewish village call Tel Hai, the first act of ethnic cleansing there. In April 1920, Arabs led by their religious leader (sound familiar?) rioted in Jerusalem and murdered seven Jews. In August 1929, 135 Jews were slaughtered all over the country, almost 70 in Hebron and the centuries-old Jewish community was ethnically cleansed. It continues throughout 1936-39 with 530 Jews killed. I could go on with the litanty of terror.

Oh, Menachem Begin arrived in Mandate Palestine in April 1942.

Posted by: yisraelmedad | June 3, 2009 6:01 AM | Report abuse

First of all-call me /label me with any NAME you want.But the HISTORY of the last 4 decades in the International world affairs- no other "Country" has commited more anty Law acts as Israel(with the help of the American TAX Payers money)Arrogant PARASITES of the World.Who where the LEADERS of the Financial colleps in the US?look at the Firms(Leech Brothers Etc)look at the NAMES-most of them DUAL Citizens.Will this US President just TEL the Bimbo bibi and the rest of the Israely FOREGH AGENT Including the ones that Sit in the House and Senate- who is responsible that Israel STILL Exists.Cut the No.1 TERRORIST State loose after getting all of there NUKES safely back to the US where it belongs.A Nation wide REFERENDUM where every US(US ONLY-NO DUAL)Citizen casts Her/His VOTE for or aganst the support presently given to Israel.The results would be interesting to see.

Posted by: handjacan | June 3, 2009 1:53 AM | Report abuse

The White House said that Obama will send a message from Egypt to the Islamic world, but they forgot that his messages have already been received by the Islamic world when he visited the Wailing Wall, put on his head the Jew's cap and prayed their prayers - where he wore a yarmulke.
Obama described the U.S.-Israeli relationship as a special one in which Americans are "deeply sympathetic" toward what he called a "stalwart ally,"
If that is so then Palestine-Israel conflict is being handled in the wrong hands, the US, because the US must be biased in favor of israel.
Muslims want tangible change on Mideast from Obama, not just a propaganda speech directed to the Muslim World.
Is Saudi Arabia a stalwart ally ?


Posted by: fan2lee1 | June 2, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Do you know why politicians who aren't pro-Israel don't get re-elected? Because most Americans support the democracy of Israel. Israelis are really very similar to Americans. America and Israel have much in common and ought to be friends. It's not blind support, it's support of a democratic friends

Posted by: deaman91 | June 2, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

any member of Congress who's looking to be re-elected couldn't possibly say that they would take a balanced position between Israel and the Palestinians, or that they would insist on Israel withdrawing to international borders, or that they would dedicate themselves to protect human rights of Palestinians--it's very likely that they would not be re-elected-Jimmy Carter

http://www.newsweek.com/id/44262/output/print

Posted by: Christine8 | June 2, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

AIPAC will see to it that he is smacked around a bit and reeled back in. No worries.

Posted by: Christine8 | June 2, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama is an incredible breath of fresh air! It has been decades since we have had an administration with the courage, or wisdom, to call a spade a spade. Israel has followed a suicidal policy for nearly 50 years, and most American presidents have cravenly enabled them. Peace is possible, but Israel, like Hamas, must make serious compromises that include a total freeze on the jackbooted settlement process.

Posted by: ejmurphy414 | June 2, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama described the U.S.-Israeli relationship as a special one in which Americans are "deeply sympathetic" toward what he called a "stalwart ally,"

If that is so then Palestine-Israel conflict is being handled in the wrong hands, the US, because the US must be biased in favor of israel.

Muslims want tangible change on Mideast from Obama, not just a propaganda speech directed to the Muslim World.

Is Saudi Arabia a stalwart ally ?


Posted by: fan2lee1 | June 2, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

We're forgetting who the are the diplomatic countries who actually believe and strive for the same as the U.S.. Israeli's desires peace in their country just as we do. Israel has stood for and has strived for the same diplomacy as we have. Why doesn't President Obama and his administration take counsel from individuals such as Joel Rosenberg? Someone who is familiar with Isreal as well the neighboring countries and their policies.

Posted by: Rhonda5 | June 2, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

For the benefit of asiseeit2 (post below @ June 2, 2009 11:38 AM) a simple reality, accepted by objective observers of history for centuries, must be explained: nations do not have "friends". Nations have interests. That is all.

The interests of the United States are ill-served by unquestioning support of Israel, or certainly of the extreme factions of the Zionist enterprise that currently control Israel's government. That makes us a party to every crime they commit (and they commit plenty, merely beginning with theft, assault and murder). It gets us nothing, except more enemies, more determined enemies... empowered by the conviction (which those crimes make reasonable) that right is on their side... and fewer allies.

Posted by: Observer44 | June 2, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

The U.S. has decided itself that the threat of terrorism does not justify disregard for settled national and international law.

We are quite correct in insisting on the same from Israel. The settlements are illegal and immoral by every standard and universally condemned. Many, many Israelis are unhappy with them. They are the product of a small band of religious extremists who believe Israel's survival is guaranteed by God and thus have no concern for the practical ramifications of their actions.

We reject religious extremists in the Islamic world; we're rejecting them in the U.S.; and we reject them in Israel.

Only fools kowtow to small, die-hard bands of religious zealots. The result is always disastrous -- in Pakistan, in Kansas, in D.C., in Israel.

Posted by: nodebris | June 2, 2009 12:09 PM | Report abuse

You all are nuts!!!

When war comes, we will see who our friends are.

Ridicule Israel, at your peril.

Your children will pay the price!

Posted by: asiseeit2 | June 2, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

America finally has an honest president on foreign affair. We have not been honest with Israel. do we really, honestly care for the state of Israel? if so and it is not political we should brought all the jews here to the u.s and give them one of our states for example texas is pretty big. According to the bible the jews have no home the whole shananegan is political while people on both sides are dying in vain. The bibble also mentions the day the jews go home that will be the beginning of the end. Peace in the middle east will not come easy and the world population will have to be reduce extensively to achieve that peace we all want. Imagine there was no israel in the middle east!!! the land belongs to the palestinian people and we need to be honest if we, to lead the process of two states living side by side in peace. How would you feel, someone come to your two bedrooms apartment and takes one of your rooms and give it to someone else and demanded that you respect and accept your neighbor by no means.

Posted by: dwaynecharles | June 2, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

It sure seems that President Obama read, "Letter to the new American President," by Rabbi Dr. Donniel Hartman of Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, in which R. Donniel called for the same kind of "tough love" that the President expressed in his interview with NPR. See Donniel Hartman's original commentary here - http://www.hartman.org.il/Opinion_C_View_Eng.asp?Article_Id=212 - and look at my blog post on it here - http://hartmaninstitute.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/obamas-tough-love-for-israel-did-he-read-donniel-hartman-column/

Posted by: aabbey1 | June 2, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

I am so grateful that Pres. Obama has stated his intent to be an honest broker to the Middle East. It gives me hope that the US did not abolish slavery only to support the racist, apartheid state of Israel, another South Africa.

Israel is falsely called the only democracy in the Middle East. Israel is passing laws contrary to a democracy. Israel just voted to pass a law that gives a year in prison to anyone denying that Israel is a democratic and jewish state. Israel voted on another law that punishes Israeli Arabs for moaning and protesting Israel's independence day, which is also the day that 700,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes. Israel attempted and failed to pass a law requiring Israeli Arabs to take a oath of loyalty to Israel. However, Israel did vote to pass a law making Jordan the homeland of the Palestinian people, without Jordan's consent. This is sure to cause a rift between Jordan and Israel.

Israel is a nightmare for the Middle East, and a friend the US cannot afford. Israel does not want peace with its arab neighbors. Israel is doing everything in its power to sabotage all efforts of the US to resolve the Israel-Palestinian Conflict, and bring peace to the region. Israel has caused the US billions of dollars, 2 wars, numerous enemies, and a loss of respect around the world. Nonetheless, Israel is still trying to persuade the US to start a war with Iran on its behalf.

It time for Pres. Obama to act in the best interest of the US and resolve the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. Pres. Obama should use all the leverage he has with Israel to do so, including suspending aid to Israel and not using US veto power in the UN to protect Israel from adverse action. Israel must be persuaded to make peace with its arab neighbors for its own security. And, the US, as the most powerful country in the world, has a responsibility to try make peace in the world, not war.

Posted by: marge9 | June 2, 2009 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Rick--

Well said.

Posted by: objective11 | June 1, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Israel is dead wrong; excluding the religious fundamentalists in the U.S., world opinion is clearly on the side of the Palestinians. Israel needs to wake up and make things right. Remove the settlements and return all of the territory occupied in the 1967 War. As it stands now, the biggest enemy of Israel is actually the U.S. Israel's problems will continue to compound until the U.S. stops its unconditional support for this renegade nation and causes Israel to comply with international law.

Rick, Cheyenne

Posted by: rboheler | June 1, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion, Obama is intelligent and rational because he believes in persuasion and an understanding and respect for other nations and their religions and cultures. This attitude is more likely to lead to achievable satisfactory outcomes which are not the same as those which are achieved by military action.

The West must stop expecting other nations to adopt western values just because we demand that they do so.

Further, we must stop trying to make the world a harmonious place because by its nature it is violent. However, we can seek outcomes that are achievable and which are almost fair or fair enough.

Time has shown that ideal outcomes are not achieved in, or by, any society. In part, this is because different belief systems give rise to strongly held different agendas.

Posted by: robertjames1 | June 1, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Universal....

You are wrong. The Zionist terrorist attacks occured before 1948. Also, per the 9-11 attacks, they would never have occured if not for our lapdog Israeli policy . Atta, the ringleader made it clear he was attacking the U.S.out of his rage/extreme anger due to our horrendous treatment of the Palestinians.And of course, Israel had to lick their chops after the attacks per now they could do whatever they wanted to the entire Palestinian "terrorist" people.And of course Israel and the Neocons, many of whom are Jewish,were the main cheerleaders for the Iraqi invasion.Make no mistake, there would have been no 9-11 if not for our reprehensible policies towards the Palestinians.

Posted by: objective11 | June 1, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Obama is wise not to lecture other nations about possible human rights violations, especially since he seems unwilling to direct the "Justice" department to prosecute human rights violations by the Bush-Cheney regime.
This country is not and clearly was not intended by the founding fathers to be a democracy, so he is also wise not to preach to other nations about democratic government.

As to Israel, expect Obama to be wishy-washy, and retreat, especially in his actual policies, from such comments as quoted in this article. Bush was 100% for Israel, Obama may only be about 90% pro-Israel. Israeli leaders know they essentially have a blank check in implementing whatever policies they wish in the Middle East, with the approval or acquiesence of any administration in this country.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | June 1, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

I think Mr. Obama got his letters mixed up when he said Israel was a "stalwart" ally. What he meant was it was a "laststraw" ally.

Posted by: 10emlet | June 1, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

It is time for an open, public debate about the U.S. and Israel relationship. Our news media, with few exceptions, only tells one side of the story, in favor of Israel; and the influence of AIPAC and related Israel lobbies over our congress is totally out of balance. Just like AIPAC goes directly to congress, over the head of Mr. Obama to push their Israel agenda, Mr. Obama should go directly to the American people and openly explain his Middle East plan with ample reference to the perils of a new preemptive war that is being pushed by Israel, this time against Iran.
It is time for a serious reassessment

Posted by: likovid | June 1, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

rICHARD cHENEY SPENT A LIFETIME IN THE SERVICE OF HIS COUNTRY AND IT WAS HONORABLE SERVICE. fOR THE PUNK WHO OCCUPIES THE wHITE hOUSE TO HAVE THE GALL TO SAY THAT cHENEY IS WRONG, ABOUT ANYTHING, IS LAUGHABLE. oBAMA IS ABOUT TO GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUM-ON FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT SIDES AROUND THE GLOBE AND THE CLUELESS COMMUNITY ORGANIZER DOESN'T HAVE THE SENSE TO MAINTAIN CHANNELS WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.. iT WILL BE A WHOLE LOT WORSE THAN WHAT BEFELL cARTER. nETANYAHU IS SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT oBAMA ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHIN, SO bIBI WILL DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

Posted by: chatard | June 1, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I appreciate his remarks, especially this one "We're not going to get countries to embrace various of our values simply by lecturing or through military means," he said. "We can stand up for human rights, stand up for democracy. But I think it's a mistake for us to somehow suggest that we're not going to deal with countries around the world in the absence of their meeting all our criteria for democracy."

Anyway, could the Obama administration stop giving money and military cover to Israel? It's a waste of money!!!Really!!

Posted by: hittlle | June 1, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

UniversalHealthCareNow:
I'm not victim of any propeganda - I'm perfectly ably to look at the situation and make my own decisions - the idea that I'm some kind of sucker is an insult.
And I say this as a veteran who has actually gone to Iraq and fought, you POS.
The Arabs are not our friends, but neither is Israel.
I say stop the cash, and make clear to the world that Israel is on their own militarily as well.
Let all those whackos fight it out on their own, and see where the dust settles, but leave us out of it.
My guess is Israel would change their tune pretty quick.
The fact remains... Israel spits on the US, and it's high time to stop it.
In the mean time, if you feel so strongly, enlist.... or go to Israel. But don't for one second assume I'm incapable of making up my own mind.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | June 1, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Can he just stay there and rule them all over the place?


Please?
We are sick and tired of him.

Posted by: dottydo | June 1, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Jeff --

You're 100% wrong.

Don't fall for Arab Propaganda.

They'e got the biggest PR machine in the world, fueled by endless Oil money, and they're the world's more frequent purveyors of "the big lie".

Remember "Bagdad Bob?"

That's standard in Arab countries.

Now, on to Israel.

The money that Israel gets from the US comes with big strings.

The biggest one is that Israel has to spend it here, in the US, on US defense goods.

Israel is also America's only dependable friend in the middle east, and the only country the USA can depend on as a base of operations if all hell breaks loose over thre.

Israel is a modern, USA like and USA inspired democracy, with multiple political parties that cover a wide range of the political spectrum, from left to right.

Israel is America's friend.

Iran is America's enemy.

Iran's official position is "Death to America"

They chant it at rallies.

They are fanatical about their beliefs and glad to die for them taking as many innocent bystanders with them as possible.

The USA and Israel are allies.

The USA, Iran, and Arab Islamic Terrorists are our sworn blood enemies.

The USA didn't attack Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Arab Islamic Terrorists on 9/11.

They attacked us.

We didn't declare the USA and them to be "blood enemies", they did.

The USA and Israel are allies.

The Iranians and Arab Islamic Extremeist Terrorists are America's enemies.

Its not a difficult equation.

Unless you're a flaming bigot.


They attacked

Posted by: UniversalHealthCareNow | June 1, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Any one who does not support the bull dozing of Palestinian businesses and homes is anti-Semitic.

Anyone who does not support the building of new settlements on Palestinian land is anti-Semitic.

Any one who does not support the building of Wall on Palestinian land is anti-Semitic.

Any one who does not support the cutting down of olive trees to take away Palestinian livelihood is anti-Semitic.

Any one who opposes the giving of $10B to Israel every yeasr is anti-Semitic.

Any one who does not support Israeli Apartheid is anti-Semitic.

Anyone who does not support the killing of Palestinian leaders is anti-Semitic.

"You are either with us or against us."

EITHER AN ANT-SEMITE OR A JEW HATER.

Posted by: zebra4 | June 1, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

What is the price tag on security for this stupid stunt?

Posted by: dottydo | June 1, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Mr. Obama be "more honest" with the Arabs and with Hamas and all the other terrorist groups? He and his administration refuse to even call it the war on terror. They won't acknowledge the threat of Islamic radicals and call them what they are. Yet they have to be more honest with Israel? I don't get this man and how he thinks. Total disconnect from reality, he is.

Posted by: YellowRose1 | June 1, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Can Obama make peace with the Muslim world without a fair and equitable Palestinian solution?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=5416


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Posted by: usadblake | June 1, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

UniversalHealthCareNow:
I give a crap about 1948. Israels action in 2009 are against the interests of the US, while they suck at our teat.
Stating this fact doesn't make anyone anti-semetic, but the fact remains - Israel treats us like crap.
We have people on this blog saying Israel will topple the US - this is exactly why it's time to stop giving Israel money or military cover.
If they we're an ally, they would simply stop the settlements, but they don't.
By their actions they prove they aren't our friends.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | June 1, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

If there are no Palestinians, then there is no Israel, which, according to a 'lengthy' poster here, is a country. Well, it's a made-up country, made-up by foreigners on someone else's land. Stop all the bickering and learn to live with one another.

Posted by: 10emlet | June 1, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

objective1 --

You're wrong.

The UN set up a "two state solution" in 1948 and the Arabs attacked Israel the moment it was born.

There are no Palestinians.

They are Jordanians.

Look at a map.

The Arabs have thousands of times more land, with trillions of dollars of oil money under it.

Oil money has turned the Arabs into the world's biggest "spoiled brats"

The Arabs have thousands of times more land and all the money in the world, but they want to destroy tiny Israel.

When Arabs pray they turn towards Mecca.

When we Jews pray, we turn towards Jerusalem.

Renounce terrorism, acknowledge Israel's right to exist, and honor previous agreements with Israel.

That all Arabs need to to do have Peace.

Israel is the good guy.

The Arab Islamic terrorists are the bad guys.

Its not a difficult equation.

Unless you're an anti-semite.

Then you get it reversed.

Remember --

Arabs attacked the USA on 9/11, not Jews.

Its actually not that difficult as long as you're not a flaming bigot.

Posted by: UniversalHealthCareNow | June 1, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

UniversalHealthCareNow, it's time you move back to Israel. And if you're already living there, then worry about your own backyard - it's a mess.

Posted by: 10emlet | June 1, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

apartheid israel gets 10 billion dollars aid from US, Egypt gets 3 billion.
Egypt implements every american policy in the region, apartheid israel dictates
american policy in the middle east, this will lead to endless wars
with arab countries for the sake of greater apartheid israel, when we are done protecting
the "only democracy in the middle east" china will be the new superpower.

israeli settlers 101
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSAvaYY-y7Q

Posted by: MumboJumboo | June 1, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Further, Mr Netanyahoo's no cream puff!
_____________

Mr. "Meant-to-kill-you" is a poor imitation of his brother.

Posted by: 10emlet | June 1, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, what would we do without our 'special ally' who doesn't cease to embarrass us!

"Firefighters refuse to put out blaze in Palestinian field

Defense officials accuse firefighters of refusing to come to West Bank thistle field owned by Palestinians after settlers set it on fire. Firefighters deny claims, say men were waiting for IDF escort into A Territories

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3724636,00.html

Dozens of settlers hurl stones at Palestinian vehicles near West Bank settlements of Kedumim, Karnei Shomron early Monday. Palestinians report four drivers wounded after being assaulted. Police: One person lightly hurt; no suspects arrested

Ali Waked
Published: 06.01.09, 07:41 / Israel News

Anti-evacuation protest ends with violence against Palestinians: Veiled settlers blocking roads in protest of the evacuation of illegal outposts violently attacked Palestinians early Monday.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3724157,00.html

Mazuz: In a proper country Lieberman wouldn’t be FM

Attorney general slams public system in Israel for enabling appointment of people suspected of criminal offenses, convicted felons as ministers

Aviad Glickman
Published: 06.01.09, 14:21 / Israel News

Attorney General Menachem Mazuz said Monday that he believes Yisrael Beiteinu Chairman Avigdor Lieberman should not have been appointed foreign minister.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3724485,00.html


Posted by: dogsbestfriend | June 1, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Reply to universalhealthcarenow

Fact--The early Zionists, including Menachem Begin, were the ones who got the terrorist ball rolling with their terror attacks in British Palestine. Israel has radicalized the entire Middle East by their denial of Palestinian's basic rights. There was no Hamas or Hezbolla until Israel invaded Lebanon and degraded the Palestinians in the occupied territories territories. Put yourself in the Palestinians shoes and you would probably be a complete nutcase, which apparrently you are anyway.If the shoe was on the other foot, the Jews would have had a state next to the state of Palestine decades ago.

Posted by: objective11 | June 1, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

dbeins --

Why do you focus on attacking Israel, America's ally, rather than the Arabs, our enemies.

Remember that they declared war on the USA, and attacked us on 9/11, we didn't attack them.

The terrorists that murdered over 3,000 Americans, came from Saudi Arabia, Iran, and other Arab countries, who hate America because we're not Moslem, and because they feel our morals are too loose and that we're too materialistic.

The Islamists are true "imperialists"

The Islamists make no secret of the fact that they want to force the entire world to convert to Islam or be killed, and live under strict Sharia law.

So I ask the people on this board who post against Jews and Israel --

WHY?

You should be supporting Jews and upset about Arab terrorists that kill Americans and Arab Islamic extremists that are killing Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Why are you doing the exact opposite?

What is your reasoning, what are your priorities, and what is your "world-view" of Jews and Arabs based on?

Anti-semitism led to the Holocaust, and Hitler's spirit is clearly alive today on these boards.

Please don't be Hitler.

Please don't attack Jews.

The Arabs are doing a great job of that for you.

They're also attacking Americans and would continue to do so even if Israel didn't exist unless every American converted to Islam.

That is Al-Quida and all extremist Islamic groups official and sincere goal.

Why do you post in favor of them and against your Jewish neighbors?

Why do you post in favor of them rather than Israel?

How much do you really know about what its like to be under constant attack from terrorists 24/7/365, never knowing if the simple act of riding a bus or buying a slice of Pizza will get you murdered by Arab suicide bombers.

Posted by: UniversalHealthCareNow | June 1, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Israel ONLY exist because we let it.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | June 1, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

jmf3210:
You just made my point for me - exactly what is Israel going to do to the US to punish us????
Are you saying Israel should threaten us????
Do you really want that fight????

Posted by: jeffc6578 | June 1, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

UniversalHealthCareNow:
Calling out Israel isn't anti-semetic.
Most of us can separate Jews from the state of Israel; I give a crap if someone is Jewish, but the state spits on us.
This I give a crap about.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | June 1, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Mr. President, do you know who you are trying to push around?I know you are Barack Obama, but you're only President of the United States, and only for eight years, max.
Israel won't take kindly to your meddling in it's American affairs. It will topple you. If it cannot do that, it will outlast you.
Israel has been trying to bomb its way to peace and manipulate diplomacy to peace for decades. It's idea of peace is getting its way with no opposition. That includes you. Mr. President. And, it has been at this "peace" game for a long, long time. With the same results, I might add. Eight years isn't too much to wait if you threaten change.

Posted by: jmf3210 | June 1, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

"Mr Cool" is going to "push" Israel? The Muslim World and the UN haven't been too successful at that! As we've learnt, Israel can "push back!" Further, Mr Netanyahoo's no cream puff!

Posted by: HassanAliAl-Hadoodi | June 1, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Israel spies on us, they continue with settlements, even though they are the biggest point of contention with the Arab world, and are clearly against our interests, all the while taking billions of US taxpayer dollars and hiding behind our coattails.
Israel is NOT our friend.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | June 1, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Israel is an ally? Oh that's right, they purchase US made military equipment with the money US taxpayers give them.

Posted by: whocares666 | June 1, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

hwaters125, the reason that all the other countries in the middle east hate us (which they actually don't) is because of our support for Israel. Even when Israel is completely wrong, the US supports them.
So, my question to you is, would you rather have a few million hate us or have a few hundred million hate us?
BTW, it is not a question of "hating" Israel. It IS a question of calling things even.

Posted by: dbeins | June 1, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

objective11 --

The Arabs are the ones that kill Americans, not the Jews.

The Arabs attacked the USA and killed over 3000 Americans on 9/11, not the Jews.

The Arabs are the guys that blow themselves up in crowds of Civilians, not the Jew.

The Arabs are the ones that hate each other Shiite and Suni, even more than they hate Jews and Americans, and kill each othere every chance they get, not the Jews.

Why do you Arabists post in supprort of terrorists and against America's greatest and only true ally in the Middle East?

Your neighbors are Jews.

Do you really feel that way about them?

Anti-semiti hate speech leads to murder.

Israel is the good guy.

The terrorists are the bad guys.

Its not that hard an equation.

Listen to "Neighborhood Bully" by Bob Dylan.

Israel gets called a bully for defending itself against constant terrorst attacks.

Israel, like the USA, bends over backwards to avoid civilian casualties.

Arabs intentionally target Civilians.

Arabs treat women like dirt.

Arabs cut off people's heads.

Jews are people like your cardiologist.

We're solid middle-class patriotic Americans.

Why do anti-semites post?

What are they trying to achieve?

Don't they realize that hate speech leads to murder, just like what happened in India, just like what almost happened in NYC.

Or is it that they just don't think of Jews as "people?"

It sucks to be discriminated against because of being Jewish, ranging from people saying horrible, hateful, painful things to you, to getting beaten up, to people actually killing you.

Democrats should be rallying behind Jews and Israel.

We were there for you when you needed us.

Now you attack the very people who were key to getting you elected.

Its very, very, sad.

I feel totally screwed.

So does every other Jew I know.

This is the "Wedge issue" the Republicans have been dreaming of.

And Democrats are forcing us right out the door and into their party.

It be nice to see some support for Jews and Israel from my fellow Democrats.

Posted by: UniversalHealthCareNow | June 1, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

For all of you Israel haters; Can you name another country in the middle east that we can depend on as a friend and that has a stable democracy? Virtually every other country has an Islamic majority. Not exactly a dependable group of folks.

How many times do we have to see how much this entire religion hates Americans and other modern democracies before we hold THEM accountable?


Posted by: hwaters125 | June 1, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I fear for President Obama's life, look what the Israeli right wing/settlers did to Rabin who was attempting to make peace. Israeli settlements put the big lie into any Israeli claims of wanting peace.And of course the U.S. Congress, Presidents and Citizens have been Israeli's great enabler.

And please do not call Israel a "stalwart ally". With an ally like Israel, who needs enemies.Israel has cost the U.S. hundreds of billions of dollars and trashed our international standing and involved us in numerous wars and repeatedly spied on us!

Posted by: objective11 | June 1, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

President Obama is going back on his campaign pledge to support Israel just as strongly as the Republicans would.

He lied.

Jewish-Americans have been the most loyal Democrats in the entire party.

Jewish-Americans worked incredibly hard to get President Obama elected.

Now our fellow Democrats are turning into Nazi's angry that those Jews had the nerve to want to live without a 9/11 every week.

Rham Emanuel, David Axelrod, and every other Jewish-American in the adminstration should resign in protest.

If Pesident Obama and the Democratic Party screw Jews and Christians by screwing Israel, Jewish-Americans will leave the Democratic Party and become Republicans.

That will tip the balance, Obama will be a one term President and it will be a long time before Democrats get into power again.

I'm Jewish. I worked hard to get President Obama elected.

Now I see posts here that look like something out of the 1930's.

I feel raped.

So do an awful lot of other Jews and Christians.

Posted by: UniversalHealthCareNow | June 1, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

America is finally changing its policy in the middle east. Terrorism works! Thank you PRESIDENT OSAMA!

Posted by: fx33187 | June 1, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Israel = Hubris

Posted by: patriot76 | June 1, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

It's about time someone put Israel in their place. What has is been 50 years they've been getting away with this nonsense? Sucking up America's tax dollars. We need to get rid of the AIPAC Mafia to. Tired of these people and their unfair policy's.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | June 1, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama described the U.S.-Israeli relationship as a special one in which Americans are "deeply sympathetic" toward what he called a "stalwart ally,"

If that is so then Palestine-Israel conflict is being handled in the wrong hands, the US, because the US must be biased in favor of israel.

Muslims want tangible change on Mideast from Obama, not just a propaganda speech directed to the Muslim World.

Is Saudi Arabia a stalwart ally ?

Posted by: fan2lee1 | June 1, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

War without end. The Jews will never give up land, and the Palestinians will continue to send their children to blow up Jews. God weeps for them both.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | June 1, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

The question is which of the two democratically elected governments, which both don't want a two-state solution, will see reason first. My bet is that it won't be Hamas.

Posted by: daweeni | June 1, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

This is a good sign. Even my Jewish friends, who are inexplicably left wing, will run from this nut case if he keeps giving Israel "tough love."

I understand Obama learned of one of his intelligence agencies from a part time worker at Five Guys over the weekend. What he doesn't know about the Middle East and the struggle of Israel to continue to exist can't be picked up at Five Guys. Perhaps that 31 year old law school dropout who is orchestrating the disintegration of the car companies is also providing counsel on what some good steps would be in the Middle East.

If I wasn't living through this nightmare, you couldn't convince me that it could happen.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | June 1, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Getting tough with Israel is waaaaaaay overdue. For far too long, it has seemed that the tail has been wagging the dog and that too many American citizens put the interests of Israel before those of the US.

Posted by: 10emlet | June 1, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Is Saudi Arabia a stalwart ally ?

Muslims want tangible change on Mideast from Obama, not just a propaganda speech.

Posted by: fan2lee1 | June 1, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

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