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Problems Obama Inherited Now Becoming His Own

By Ben Pershing
"Health care reform is not something I just cooked up when I took office," President Obama told attendees at a town hall meeting in Green Bay yesterday. Instead -- as is also the case with the auto industry's meltdown, the budget deficit and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan -- the nation's health care problems were already in full bloom when Obama took office.

Whether he's talking about the financial crisis, Guantanamo Bay or a half-dozen other issues, Obama "wastes few opportunities to remind the country that the problems are not of his making," Peter Baker writes in today's New York Times, adding: "But at a certain point, a new president assumes ownership of the problems and finds himself answering for his own actions. For Mr. Obama, even some advisers say that moment may be coming soon."

Politically, what does that mean for the president? To start, his poll numbers may drop. On some issues, they already have. It was widely noted earlier this week that a Gallup survey showed a measurable uptick in the percentage of respondents who disapproved of Obama's economic policies. And a new Gallup poll shows 55 percent of Americans disapprove of current U.S. policy toward GM. Numbers like that will affect Obama, regardless of whether it was him or President Bush who started the country on the path of bailing out auto companies.

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By Ben Pershing  |  June 12, 2009; 8:27 AM ET
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Has the free market failed the Health Care System?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=5501

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Posted by: usadblake | June 12, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

For those wishing to express an informed opinion remember that the Fed controls monetary policy and the executive controls fiscal policy and congress controls neither. What homefreind1 insists on documenting is what happened after Bush change his Secretary of Treasury, where fiscal policy is controlled.

Economics and politics shouldn't be confused, unless of course you insist on expressing ignorance.

Posted by: Gator-ron | June 12, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Isnt it just a shame that obama wasnt elected prez in '06, when demos were running for control of congress, promising "CHANGE?" Let's examine what has since "CHANGED" since they got control.........

2006 unemployment #s
4.7...jan.
4.8...feb.
4.7...march
4.7...april
4.7...may
4.6...june
4.7...july
4.7...aug.
4.5...sep.
4.4...oct.
4.5...nov.
4.4...dec.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000


http://www.icmarc.org/xp/rc/marketview/ ... oduct.html


The 1st quarter of '06 saw 4.8% growth in GDP. Then came demos running for control of congress promising "CHANGE." They won, and after 2 years in power, things HAVE "CHANGED" GDP growth is now - 6%. Happy with your "CHANGE?"


Posted by: homefried1 | June 12, 2009 10:35 AM

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Boy, you sure are stupid. Republican growth is always on borrowed money. What you seen was the unwinding of imaginary wealth. And you see how the Republicans jacked up oil prices at the end to suck-up every last dime out of the economy? When Pelosi tried to pass a bill to stop speculation every stinking Republican voted against it. They wanted to drill for oil so prices would come down a dime 7 years later. You are so gullible.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | June 12, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

The economy was destroyed by Bush and a Republican Congress...Iraq was started by Bush...Iran was driven to nukes by Bush...Health care reform was passed over by Bush...

How are any of these Obama's "problems"?

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | June 12, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse


I agree Hemi.
These are the types of people who blindly vote for the person with the most charming smile while that person has his hands in their wallets.

The republicans depend on keeping people stupid enough to vote for them, while they ruin this country.

Posted by: Independent4tw | June 12, 2009 10:23 AM

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Yup, Patriotism, Religion, Guns and Abortion are the tools of their trade. You don't need to know about anything else going on in this country except for that.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | June 12, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

" And the truth is:
1. He inherited 2 wars.
2. He was left with the worst mess of an economy since the great depression.
3. The previous evil regime gave us millions of unemployed Americans.
4. He was left with the giant task of fixing a healthcare system monster.
5. The entitled rich under Bush screwed us over intentionally in an environment that turned a blind eye.
6. We're seeing the true colors of the last standing 21%: Angry, radical, narrow, simple.
"

Wasn't Obama a member of this said evil regime in the form of a US Senator? Of course, I am sure people disregard that since he usually just showed up to abstain from voting on anything. Interesting that people do not hold Obama accountable for anything even if he was involved in the past government just like Barney Frank, Pelosi, etc.

"3. The previous evil regime gave us millions of unemployed Americans."

This regime is adding to the number daily.


"5. The entitled rich under Bush screwed us over intentionally in an environment that turned a blind eye."

Care to back this up? I know I personally got more money back in taxes from the past regime, and I can assure you that I am not rich.

"1. He inherited 2 wars."

Uhm, ok. You do know that it is widely believed that WWII helped America out the last depression. Also, why doesn't he just call the troops home -- I am sure no one would oppose this.


"4. He was left with the giant task of fixing a healthcare system monster."

Healthcare is a beast of a problem, but Obama is taking it upon himself to fix this at high risk. I would rather he wait until more people went back to work with the economy on the upswing.

"I've listened to all the criticism of the Obama’s economic plans, but I never hear a plan from Newt or any other conservative that would..."

Adding to the deficit and raising taxes is not the way to fix this problem. Companies rise and fall with good or bad decisions. Government should not prop up companies that made bad decisions for oh.. the past 20 years.

"Reducing the cost of health care will create jobs by allowing employers to hire more people inside of the United states because these employers will not have to pay ridiculously high insurance per employee.
"

Obama's plan will force companies to give out insurance as outlined by a committee, so I am not sure how this is going to reduce the cost or money spent per employee. Then, he is turning around and taxing the employee's health benefits as income if that plan is better than the government option. Not sure how this is a better approach.


"Would you rather fire all those thousands of people?..."

Would you rather prop up a bad business with bad leadership and continue to support the people that aren't delivering the quality of work as compared to other companies? People will always lose jobs...retool...then get back to work. Also, what makes sane people think that the government can run GM well?

Posted by: mld1170 | June 12, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Isnt it just a shame that obama wasnt elected prez in '06, when demos were running for control of congress, promising "CHANGE?" Let's examine what has since "CHANGED" since they got control.........

2006 unemployment #s
4.7...jan.
4.8...feb.
4.7...march
4.7...april
4.7...may
4.6...june
4.7...july
4.7...aug.
4.5...sep.
4.4...oct.
4.5...nov.
4.4...dec.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000


http://www.icmarc.org/xp/rc/marketview/ ... oduct.html

The 1st quarter of '06 saw 4.8% growth in GDP. Then came demos running for control of congress promising "CHANGE." They won, and after 2 years in power, things HAVE "CHANGED" GDP growth is now - 6%. Happy with your "CHANGE?"

Posted by: homefried1 | June 12, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Independent4tw wrote: "If this was a socialist country, everyone would get paid exactly the same amount of money every year,"
What do you think he's trying to do by regulating the pay of publically owned compainies, genius? You'd make a great slip-and-fall-lawyer.

Posted by: Superpower | June 12, 2009 9:47 AM

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You mean publicly owned companies like Enron that ripped off everybody's life savings? Or the publicly owned companies that suck-up millions from share holders to line their pockets? Go look at all the lawsuits. What, nobody's supposed to protect the owners of those publicly owned companies? We all know Bush and his boy Cox at the SEC aren't going to do anything. Just look at the Madoff family. You don't have a clue.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | June 12, 2009 10:16 AM
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I agree Hemi.

These are the types of people who blindly vote for the person with the most charming smile while that person has his hands in their wallets.

The republicans depend on keeping people stupid enough to vote for them, while they ruin this country.

Posted by: Independent4tw | June 12, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA'S BIGGEST SELF-DEFEATING MISTAKE:

HIS FAILURE TO TAKE DOWN THE BUSH-CHENEY EXTRAJUDICIAL 'GESTAPO' VIGILANTE NETWORK...

...A POLICE STATE APPARATUS THAT MAKES A MOCKERY OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND THREATENS HIS PRESIDENCY.


A federal "multi-agency coordinated action" program appears to provide funding, organizational structure and, the evidence indicates, direction, for what amounts to an "American Gestapo"...

... an extrajudicial targeting and punishment "matrix" that has drafted hundreds of thousands of citizen volunteer vigilantes to stalk, harass, terrorize and yes, TORTURE, many many thousands of unjustly "targeted" American citizens and their families...

...using covertly implanted GPS tracking devices and classified microwave radiation "directed energy weapons" -- which have been proliferated to local law enforcement nationwide by government agencies that include the Department of Justice.

This "multi-agency coordinated action" appears to be overseen by secretive security forces close to the seat of executive power (but apparently under the radar of POTUS and his closest aides).

My task here is to issue a WAKE-UP CALL to POTUS, VPOTUS, AG Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano, David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel -- and to apparently naive, disbelieving (or perhaps co-opted?) civil liberties organizations such as ACLU.

If their aides are reading this, please forward the following link to their immediate attention:

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener

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A NOTE TO SEC. NAPOLITANO: My postings to Washington Post's political blogs, as well as other internet sites, appear to be subject to near- real-time prior restraint and outright censorship that I believe emanates from the Homeland Security- supervised "fusion center" based in Newtown, Bucks County PA.

Secretary Napolitano, I believe your charges are allowing the imposition of unconstitutional prior restraint and censorship on political speech and telecommunications in America. Please do something about this. Thank you.

Posted by: scrivener50 | June 12, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Independent4tw wrote: "If this was a socialist country, everyone would get paid exactly the same amount of money every year,"
What do you think he's trying to do by regulating the pay of publically owned compainies, genius? You'd make a great slip-and-fall-lawyer.

Posted by: Superpower | June 12, 2009 9:47 AM

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You mean publicly owned companies like Enron that ripped off everybody's life savings? Or the publicly owned companies that suck-up millions from share holders to line their pockets? Go look at all the lawsuits. What, nobody's supposed to protect the owners of those publicly owned companies? We all know Bush and his boy Cox at the SEC aren't going to do anything. Just look at the Madoff family. You don't have a clue.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | June 12, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Ah HaHaHa, keep listening to Republican Radio. http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html

Posted by: HemiHead66 | June 12, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Independent4tw wrote: "If this was a socialist country, everyone would get paid exactly the same amount of money every year,"
What do you think he's trying to do by regulating the pay of publically owned compainies, genius? You'd make a great slip-and-fall-lawyer.

Posted by: Superpower | June 12, 2009 9:47 AM
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So he is making the publicly owned companies pay the mail clerks the same as the CEOs?

If he is not, then it is not socialism, and you are wrong.

Are you saying that the owner of a company can not dictate how much money his employers make? That sounds more like communism to me.

You have no logic to back up your statements, just fear and hate.

Posted by: Independent4tw | June 12, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

And the truth is:
1. He inherited 2 wars.
2. He was left with the worst mess of an economy since the great depression.
3. The previous evil regime gave us millions of unemployed Americans.
4. He was left with the giant task of fixing a healthcare system monster.
5. The entitled rich under Bush screwed us over intentionally in an environment that turned a blind eye.
6. We're seeing the true colors of the last standing 21%: Angry, radical, narrow, simple.

I've listened to all the criticism of the Obama’s economic plans, but I never hear a plan from Newt or any other conservative that would A) put people back to work, B) fix the foreclosure problem, C) make sure big banks don't hurt the global economy more by failing, D) and address long term economic problems like healthcare, energy, or education and do all of these things without increasing deficit spending. If anyone has that plan, I would love to hear it.

Posted by: kalel96 | June 12, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Sure Obama inherited problems. However, when a Obama assumed office and his policies, and decisions (etc) make the problems worse(!) the problems he inherited become his immediately. More troubling are the problems he created that have more impact to the U.S. The trillions in debt HE added; Ownership of GM; Ownership of banks; Meddling in private business concerns; Upcoming health care debacle; Weakening of our military; Miranda rights terrorists; non-support of Israel; placating terrorists and those that support them; Non-movement on closing U.S. borders; Move to an ultra-left wing agenda and Socialism; etc. etc.
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Yeah, lets just let the whole country vanish before our eyes because you want a little payback. Where do think this country would be with no banks? Do you think the Government was going to just walk away from all of this? Who'd you think was going to cover everybody's deposits when the banks went under? And you better direct that trillions in debt comment towards Bush and the PNAC Mafia. Why don't ya take a look at this then tell me who sunk this country in debt. http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html

Posted by: HemiHead66 | June 12, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Independent4tw wrote: "If this was a socialist country, everyone would get paid exactly the same amount of money every year,"
What do you think he's trying to do by regulating the pay of publically owned compainies, genius? You'd make a great slip-and-fall-lawyer.

Posted by: Superpower | June 12, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

communism
–noun 1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
socialism
–noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
fascism
–noun 1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

"Stupid is as Stupid does" Forrest Gump

Palin for Prez keep the laughter going!

Posted by: LogicNotRequired | June 12, 2009 9:35 AM
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So unless Obama has plans to take away your land, he is not communist and you are an idiot. Thanks finding out the definition that proves you wrong, it saved me time.

Posted by: Independent4tw | June 12, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Sure Obama inherited problems. However, when a Obama assumed office and his policies, and decisions (etc) make the problems worse(!) the problems he inherited become his immediately. More troubling are the problems he created that have more impact to the U.S. The trillions in debt HE added; Ownership of GM; Ownership of banks; Meddling in private business concerns; Upcoming health care debacle; Weakening of our military; Miranda rights terrorists; non-support of Israel; placating terrorists and those that support them; Non-movement on closing U.S. borders; Move to an ultra-left wing agenda and Socialism; etc. etc.

1. He added debt in order to create jobs and create growth. If the country grows by 1% more then it has in the last few years, we will save trillions of dollars over the next few years. Its the same idea as someone who invests in a company so that the company can grow and return profits.

2. The government only owns GM because we didn't want to throw all those workers out on the streets. Would you rather fire all those thousands of people? Remember, it is not just the auto workers that would get fired, its every company that supports them from the salesmen to plastics to seat belt makers, and it would raise the unemployment rate, the amount of people on welfare, and the amount of money that you have to pay to support them. This will actually save you money in the long run, and save this country.

3. Banks are same, if not worse, then GM.

4. Health care is the number one reason for unemployment. It is the reason that we outsource labor and fire employees when in rough times. Health care also causes thousands of people to go bankrupt every year because of the fact that it costs 5 times as much as it should. Reducing the cost of health care will create jobs by allowing employers to hire more people inside of the United states because these employers will not have to pay ridiculously high insurance per employee.

4. Weakening of the military? Done by Bush when he sent our troops to war for no reason. That is why we have such low enlisting rates, people do not want to die for such a valueless cause.

The rest of your examples are too weak to even try to explain. Anyone who cries socialism against Obama obviously does not understand socialism. If this was a socialist country, everyone would get paid exactly the same amount of money every year, from doctors down to garbage men, and that will never happen. This country has plenty of "socialist like" policies that were here long before Obama became president, and there will always be more in the future because sometimes these policies are fair and work.

Posted by: Independent4tw | June 12, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

'Hope'fully Obama won't try and blame Bush for the fact that he has spent more taxpayer money in the first three months of his presidency than ALL presidents combined to date. For Obama to "Get serious about not spending" is an insult to every American's intelligence. For those of you who voted for this socialist fraud and attended public schools, you are living under a soft tyranny; something your hippie teachers never disclosed to you in class.

Posted by: Superpower | June 12, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

communism
–noun 1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
socialism
–noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
fascism
–noun 1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

"Stupid is as Stupid does" Forrest Gump

Palin for Prez keep the laughter going!

Posted by: LogicNotRequired | June 12, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Quiz.

Who said: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

And what political theory did he propose?

And last, how exactly is that different from what the current administration is proposing?
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Marx, socialism, It is different then today because people have incomes ranging from nothing to millions of dollars. If it were true today, everyone would get payed the exact same amount of money, which will never happen, so you can stop being afraid.

Posted by: Independent4tw | June 12, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Sure Obama inherited problems. However, when a Obama assumed office and his policies, and decisions (etc) make the problems worse(!) the problems he inherited become his immediately. More troubling are the problems he created that have more impact to the U.S. The trillions in debt HE added; Ownership of GM; Ownership of banks; Meddling in private business concerns; Upcoming health care debacle; Weakening of our military; Miranda rights terrorists; non-support of Israel; placating terrorists and those that support them; Non-movement on closing U.S. borders; Move to an ultra-left wing agenda and Socialism; etc. etc.

Posted by: NObama12 | June 12, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Quiz.

Who said: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

And what political theory did he propose?

And last, how exactly is that different from what the current administration is proposing?

Posted by: DB17 | June 12, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Communism = a form of socialism that abolishes private ownership. Sounds right to me.

Posted by: jmoscat | June 12, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Pure and simple fact here folks obama did inherit some problems. However this ILLEGAL ALIEN masquerading as POTUS has by far created many more PROBLEMS than he inherited. This continual fleecing of the American tax payer will continue for generations to come while this excuse for POTUS will just slip off into the future and attempt to wash his hands of all the screwing of America that he and his clowns are pulling off. NOW IS THE TIME AMERICA to hold this administration accountable. A government Of The People, By The People, For The People say NO To Socialism and Fascism. Contact your elected officials NOW and tell them to Vote NO to any type Nationalize of Medicine before obama can LIE his way into Complete Control of Every Citizen. IMPEACH obam NOW!! IMPEACH obama!!!

Posted by: WRH51 | June 12, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Two things I've learned from lclifton.

1. He apparently doesn't understand the definition of communism.

2. Nothing he says should be taken seriously.

Posted by: praxis22 | June 12, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Two things I've learned from Obama.

1. The Democratic Party is actually the American Communist Party.

2. I will never be or vote for another Communist.

Posted by: lclifton | June 12, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

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