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Steele Blasts Democratic Health Reform Push, Urges Obama to 'Slow Down'


Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele delivers remarks at the National Press Club July 20, 2009 in Washington, D.C. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

Updated 1:20 p.m.
By Perry Bacon Jr.
Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele this morning blasted the Democratic health care bills moving through Congress, joining the growing number of critics in the GOP who are say the proposals will slow the economy, dramatically increase the deficit and make health care worse for the millions who already have insurance.

"Candidate Obama promised change. President Obama is conducting an experiment," Steele said, using the term "experiment" as party leaders were advised to do in a widely-distributed memo written by veteran Republican consultant Alex Castellanos. "He's conducting a dangerous experiment with our health care. He's conducting a reckless experiment with our economy."

Steele's speech at the National Press Club comes as Republicans are sensing momentum shifting in their direction and as polls show rising concerns about Obama's economic policies, a growing unemployment rate -- despite the stimulus -- and Democratic division on health care. GOP leaders are accusing the president of looking to push a bill too quickly through Congress and urging him to delay until after the August congressional recess, as are some Democrats.

"They want to get a bill done in the next two weeks. This reckless approach is an ill-conceived attempt to push through an experiment and all of us should be scared to death," Steele said. "Slow down, Mr. President."

Steele encouraged Obama to drop much of his health agenda and adopt a number of proposals Republicans have long touted, such as efforts to reduce medical malpractice lawsuits, make it easier for self-employed individuals to buy health insurance and encourage businesses to set up programs that reward employees who lose weight, stop smoking or take other measures to improve their health. Democrats argue this agenda would do little to reduce the number of uninsured and cast the Republicans as making little effort to improve the health care system. Democrats say their proposals will dramatically reduce the number of Americans without health insurance and without increasing the deficit.

The Republican National Committee is launching ads today to attack the Democratic health care plans, the latest sign that are escalating their opposition to the bills moving through Congress. They have even adopted some of the steps they used in the 1994 health care debate, such as creating a complicated flow chart describing Democratic-proposed new rules and guidelines as a "web of bureaucracy." But they believe their strongest argument is linking the health care proposal to the stimulus, arguing Americans should not trust Obama to fix health care if he has not improved the economy.

Steele offered some of the most pointed rhetoric from any Republican on the Democratic health care proposals. Asked if the legislation constituted "socialism" Steele said simply, "yes," before adding, "Next question."

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bruwho1 wrote: Why are so many members of the GOP who claim to be prolife Christians, who also support family values, so mean spirited when it comes to ensuring families have health insurance to keep our country's children healthy and alive?

Actions speak a lot louder than words. You have to look more at how people conduct themselves and less at what they 'say' they believe. I see Republicans more as Pharisee's. People who hypocritically and self-righteously emphasize strict interpretation and observance of their personal belief's but contrarily act as they please.

Posted by: MaggiePi | July 21, 2009 7:53 PM

There is absolutely no question that we need health care reform and we need it now.
This is what Obama campaigned on and what the American people voted for.

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Posted by: evelyn9 | July 21, 2009 12:19 PM

Mr. Steele would like us to wait...

For what?

A GOP tax cut that will save us?
For 40 percent of us to die broke?
For more GOP donations from insurance companies?

His only plan now is to defeat Obama.
And THEN the GOP will help me.

Right.

Where are all the benefits from the GOP tax rebates?

Where are all the jobs from the GOP tax cuts?

I'm still waiting for THOSE to work.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | July 20, 2009 10:09 PM

Q - Are medical facilities and insurance company law abiding citizens?

A - That depends. One has to force them to obey the law. Try getting an itemized billing from one of them. I did this on one occassion and wound up involing federal law enforcement to get them to enforce the law. Once I got the itemized bill I found all kinds of things that had nothing to do with me or my problem. We are talking thousands of dollars illegally billed. If this goes on with half of the hospital patients in America we are talking trillions of dollars in illegal charges or over charges. The insurance company gladly paid them, illegalities and all.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 8:38 PM

You have to wonder if Mike Steele feels like the sheriff in 'Blazing Saddles' ...

Posted by: marvinAndroid | July 20, 2009 8:24 PM

Q - Do have stories about the inner sanctum-sanctum of insurance companies?

A - Yes. I believe they call it shifting (sock it to the consumer). Say you have a health insurance policy and have an operation that gets billed to you for say $15,000.00, but your insurance company pays $2,500.00 for payment in full....you receive no further billing since your account is now settled in full for $2,500.00.

The balance of the bill ($12,500.00) gets shifted to to the uninsured, bankruptcy court, or another insurance company (via another patient). This leaves the consumer oneway or the other holding the bag at a very steep price.

Its one way the insurance company and medical facity make big bucks behind the voters back.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 8:06 PM

Q - Where to Democrats hurt themselves?

A - They do not have tough & good leadership in the House or Senate. The health care bill should have already been passed. And Obama has left too much up to Congress that does not, as I have said, have good & tough Dem leadership.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 7:56 PM

Q - Where did all the right wing bigots go?

A - Most probable they are at evening church services or prayers.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 7:51 PM

Q - Why did Reagan and Republicans grant amnesty to illegal aliens that led to the massive influx of illegal aliens we have today?

A - You will have to ask the Republicans. It was their idea.

As it relates to health care though, Republicans overwhelming support free health care to the illegals in the same fashion they support freeing the Iraqi people and giving them free health care.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 7:37 PM

Perry Bacon has a history of being a right-wing stenographer.

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/06/washington-po-6.html

Such a shame. The Post used to be a quality newspaper.
~

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | July 20, 2009 7:20 PM

I can believe the republicans want Obama to slow down, their not used to having to get things done. If taking the edge away from the insiders and insurance companies would be considered socialism, then lets have some socialism. If you can still keep your health care and the government plan will help the unfortunate and low income, whats the big deal? If the republicans would help figure out the maze of how to cover the cost instead of trying to ruin and distort everything that's being done, we wouldn't have this problem. Everyone knows health care is out of control and a change is needed unless your a porker and don't have to worry about your health care.

Posted by: kimkimminni1 | July 20, 2009 6:27 PM

The comments about reducing legal crap are simply a myth created by Insurance companies and the medical profession to allow them to continue to rape the system.

I recently learned that most of the medical community is already strongly protected against legal action.
Our grandson became severely ill when injected with a vaccine recalled due to bacterial contamination by Merck. Although Merck issued the recall and admitted to the contamination, they felt no obligation what so ever to assist with the $5,000 of legal bills generated by the baby’s illness.

Merck did not even care to investigate the situation and the employees we talked to did not seem to care if the baby lived or died. Worse, they would not even respond until we wrote to an assistant to the CEO. When Merck’s response came back to us it basically said go ahead and try to sue us we are protected in federal vaccine court.

I also found out that in our state, lawyers are severely restricted in what they can charge for medical malpractice cases to discourage lawyers from taking them. Before a case can even be tried it has to be approved by a board of doctor’s intent on ensuring few cases go to court. It is no coincidence that the highest paid executive in our state works for a health care insurer.

We should look at countries like Germany who pay 10% of their GNP to insure all citizens while still allowing them to select any doctor they choose. We pay 14% of our GNP and have 50 million uninsured, and countless millions with poor health insurance who have trouble finding a doctor to accept their coverage. The entire health care situation is an embarrassment to our great country.

Posted by: bruwho1 | July 20, 2009 6:20 PM

Slow down? Michael Steele needs to cancel his own health insurance and stand in the shoes of those who are paying a bloody fortune (if they can afford it at all) for the luxury of health insurance. If you are not on the side of the people who want, and need, lower health insurance premiums than you are not for capitalism at its best. Walk the walk, Mr. Steele.

Posted by: gregp3 | July 20, 2009 6:13 PM

Steele "blasts" and "rips" the Democrat health plan?

LOL... that's funny. You guys at WaPo write funny headlines, like all the ones you wrote about WMD that helped get the US into Iraq.

-Wexler

Posted by: WWWexler | July 20, 2009 6:10 PM

Q - You said the insurance companies and medical system in general make the system confusing to keep prices high. Is this correct?

A - Yes! Single payer is really the only way to go. Unless confusion is taken out of the system costs will still go higher.

This means too that Republicans must stay away from helping to revamp health care.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 6:00 PM

TO: hotdad14 who wrote:
“Go Michael. As Republicans, and socialist opposition, we must start making some loud noises! We are passed the age of polite.
Make your stand here! And stand with Sarah too!!”

____________________________

You mean Michael “Your Momma’s calling you” Steele and
Sarah “The Bimbo” Palin?

Bwahahahahahahaha!

and as to your comment that "As Republicans....We are passed the age of polite."

We noticed.

(“We noticed” provided by poster douglaslbarber. Thanks Doug for today’s best post on the Post!)


Posted by: lindalovejones | July 20, 2009 5:59 PM

Q - Wouldn't it be easier to just go right to a single payer system?

A - Yes, and cheaper too! The government can collect (from companies) the amount companies currently pay for their employee's health care and fund the universal system.

A simple plan will not fly in Congress though.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 5:56 PM


Richard Steele is an embarassment to his Momma, and to all african-americans.

Posted by: lindalovejones | July 20, 2009 5:50 PM

hotdad14 wrote, "As Republicans....We are passed the age of polite."

We noticed.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 20, 2009 5:05 PM


Are id10ts like you upset because we're acting like you did the past 8-10 years or are you pissed because Obama lied to YOU'RE FACE????

Posted by: askgees | July 20, 2009 5:50 PM

Obama has 54% approval on his health care proposal. I think that is more support for health care than George W Bush had for invading Iraq!

Health Care Reform is basically a done deal.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 5:46 PM

I agree that Health Care for all is needed. I think that childrens healthcare should almost be free. Other than that, it's survival of the fittess. 6 billion people on the planet, a few millions deaths doesn't fade me, but what can I say, others are more compassionate obout these things.

Posted by: ai3di | July 20, 2009 5:41 PM

Q- Do Republicans approve of socialism and communism?

A - Yes! They approve. They like their socialist (socialism) health care benefits paid by your collective (communism) taxes.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 5:37 PM

Michael Who? Don't you have to prep yourself for illegally mismanaging funds or something? Go away token.

Posted by: rmattocks | July 20, 2009 5:33 PM

Just as with the Iraqi War and terrorism, the GOP is playing on people's fears about health care. As a senior on Medicare Advantage, I gained greatly from the drug prescription plan of Bush, because the bill was a big subsidy for the insurance companies. A good health care bill that covers everyone and has a public options will probably hurt me (the subsidies to private insurance for Medicare will be cut), but it would be better for the uninsured and the country in general. Unfortunately, individuals are just a greedy as the big banks who brought us to economic ruin. They prefer the status quo to anything new that might hurt them, even if it is better for the great majority of people and the health of the nation (compare us to European nations in cost and outcomes). The Republicans know this and will continue their fear mongering to try to defeat Obama's plans. So give Obama's ideas a chance.

Posted by: DWSouthern | July 20, 2009 5:26 PM

The corrupt, elitist press is trying to whitewash this story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090720/ap_on_go_ot/us_cia_fraud

A judge determined that a CIA official committed fraud. As many as 6 officials were involved including former CIA director, George Tenet. Don't let them get away it. Fire up your blogs and post this story and repeat this in the comments on The Times, Post, and everywhere else. Don't let the press and the GOP get away with another Iraq-like whitewash.

Sincerely,

Michael D'Onofrio
Memphis, TN

Posted by: mcls1442 | July 20, 2009 5:22 PM

A Republican is, at root, a person who has concluded that economic selfishness is the heart of morality, ensuring that the worthy get their reward and the unworthy their punishment.

If you'd like to advance from political arithmetic to political algebra, substitute "powerful" for "worthy" to derive this: "A Republican is, at root, a person who has concluded that government works best when it serves the economically powerful, even at the expense of the economically disadvantaged they grow wealthy by exploiting."

This health care issue is not ethical rocket science, folks, it's pure power politics. Executives with top-notch insurance policies, insurance companies, overpaid hospital executives and physicians who as specialists often earn in excess of $500,000 per year for 20 hours of work per week don't want national health care. It simply has nothing to offer them that appeals to their powerfully developed sense of selfishness and entitlement.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 20, 2009 5:22 PM

Q - Is it ture the health care benefits recieved by members of Congress is not funded?

A- Yes! With the current budget deficits their health care is not able to be financed. Congress funds it by debt, which they deny to all Americans.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 5:20 PM

What in heaven's name is the Post thinking in assigning its most prominent website position to the inane utterances of Mr. Steele? He's against health care reform. Water flows downhill. Stop the presses.

Posted by: chuckbarb23 | July 20, 2009 5:16 PM

WOW ONLY IN REPUBLICAN-LAND WOULD KEEPING THE POPULACE HEALTHY BE EQUATED WITH KILLING JOBS. THE PART THAT IS EVEN MORE AMAZING IS THAT JITTERY UNINFORMED AMERICANS HAVE SUCH SHORT MEMORIES ABOUT HOW THE GOP DESTROYED AMERICA JUST A FEW SHORT YEARS AGO. PLEASE ON BEHALF OF THOSE OF US AMERICANS WHO CAN THINK, IM BEGGING YOU TO STOP BEING AFRAID AND LET OBAMA FIX YOUR MESS.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 20, 2009 5:15 PM

The GOP is SCARED BRAINLESS It is running thin in their pants, because they promised, in return for not inconsidereable support in the flunked elections, the insurers that they will NEVER EVER allow healthcare be a fair and equal(and maybe even non-profit) right for Every American, rich, poor black, white, latino etc. And the GOP cannot pay back THE MOB...... Them scared...

Obama's package specifically mentioned "prevention" ..That is complete blasphemy, because "prevented disease" doesn't pay well for the insurers ,with their unbreakable ties with the drug-cartels...eeh.."companies..I meant companies...yeah that's what I meant..

Cabrones!

Posted by: diakrite | July 20, 2009 5:07 PM

"He's conducting a dangerous experiment with our health care. He's conducting a reckless experiment with our economy."

Okay, fine.

Let's not do anything about health care, because trying to fix it is obviously way too scary. Let's stay 37th ranked in the world.

Let's let health care costs -- the number one source of bankruptcy -- keep rising and rising and rising. Let's let small businesses keep collapsing from the crushing burden.

Let's keep right on having insurance companies arbitrairly deny people coverage. Let's make sure those insurers only cover the healthy, and deny coverage to the sick (we'd probably all be better off if they just died anyways).

I say that 47 million uninsured is not too many, but too few! Let's get that number to 100 million if we really want a health care "system" the like of which the world has never seen before!

Let's leave it all exactly the way it is. There's nothing at all dangerous, reckless, or harmful to the long term economy the way things are right now.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | July 20, 2009 5:07 PM

Both sides of congress have failed. The current health care system the republicans want to keep is to go to the ER after hours is destroying out county and the new system is just more of the same old ER visits. Without real health care reform nothing will work. Reform is bidding on drugs and treatment. Emergency room catch all will never work. This is just big talk from Obama.

Congress is planning to tax you extra if you do not buy a health care plan. The plan you have to buy may cost so much you may not be able to afford it anyway, or like millions of Americans you may be facing furloughs, or already laid off. You know the trillium dollar stimulus is creating millions of jobs? UH HUH. "Where are the stimulus jobs?" I guess In AIG bonuses.

Your job may disappear if the company you work for can not afford to help you buy insurance or pay the tax for not offering insurance. If you buy on the open market at a low or high cost it could cost you all you make at 5,000-10,000 copay before the plan kicks in. The
insurance industry is calling it "creative health care" These creative plans will still
take you saving and homes if you have any first before kicking in. I imagine tons of donut holes to give you a fault security.

You could be in the same boat you are now--uninsured. Why? STILL IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A JOB, savings or income to pay, NO INSURANCE...

If you think Congress has a decent plan for you why did they vote before working on anything to exempt themselves and UAW?

Best solution is to never vote for an incumbent. Even if a party jumper. Vote all out every time even if you have to vote independent.


Posted by: billisnice | July 20, 2009 5:07 PM

hotdad14 wrote, "As Republicans....We are passed the age of polite."

We noticed.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 20, 2009 5:05 PM

Seriously, to drop the health care costs, cut out the middleman all together - insurance companies. How many of us pay premiums each year that are never utilized? No plan will work if it involves insurance. Insurance is what drove health care costs up in the first place, after all from a 20,000$ bill the only portion payed as at most 1500$. Hospitals bill so much because they know only a single fraction of the total cost will be paid, which leaves all those without insurance screwed (up a creek without a paddle). All along insurance companies are making out like bandits. Think about it, take the salaries of the CEO's of all insurance companies and spread their wealth as Mr. Obama would like to say, and you might just solved our problem. Give the premium money back to the people and balance the cost Hospitals and Doctors are charging for service that is mediocre at best. Don't get me started on the attitudes of the individuals that work in the office for them, they treat me and others I know (friends/family/people I've seen in different offices) like junk, meaning they know they have the upper hand, and if they want to treat you poorly they can for whatever reason. It's very difficult for the consumer/patient, we are all getting screwed. Something needs to be done and I think I'm on to something. I don't think it will ever happen b/c insurance company lobbyist are too powerful and possibly friends with elected officials......too bad America we lose again!

Posted by: ForthepeoplebythePeople1 | July 20, 2009 4:54 PM

Does anyone know if this bill gets passed are Americans going to be receieving health care like federal employees have or is going to be something else because Medicaid is nothing like the federal employee health care plan and I am just curious if this new plan is going to finally be up to par and help us?

Posted by: IheartUSA1 | July 20, 2009 4:44 PM

Go Michael. As Republicans, and socialist opposition, we must start making some loud noises!

We are passed the age of polite.
Make your stand here! And stand with Sarah too!!

Posted by: hotdad14 | July 20, 2009 4:43 PM

This is so hokey. More and more Americans are waking up to the tricks of manipulation, particularly those based on fear, such as: What if we can't pay for it? What if we can't control it? What if we don't have enough money to bail out more banks, more corporations, the military industrial complex?

HR676 is completely doable, affordable. It is insurance companies which make medical care unaffordable.

Posted by: Think2 | July 20, 2009 4:42 PM

I realize this is all very complicated and I don't pretend to understand the nuances, but it appears the long version of Steele's answer is:

"no"

Hmmm, wonder where I've heard THAT before?

Posted by: mcalvinlaw | July 20, 2009 4:41 PM

The devil is in the details! That's what this rush is all about. The more details the public sees the less they like it!

Sure health care needs reform but it won't be done correctly by ramming it through Congress. It isn't even proposed to take effect before the 2012/2013 time frame.

Just look at the ozone fiasco! We rushed to fix a non problem and ended up using chemicals more destructive to the environment.

Posted by: Jimbo77 | July 20, 2009 4:40 PM

As a physician-in-training and having seen patients in the clinic and hospital, I ask - let us not wait for reform!

Too many patients come in without insurance and so much of the medical system has become convoluted because of all the billing codes and complications.

I don't want to be a doctor that has to split or divert her attention from taking care of patients to worrying about the bills. I want to focus on providing the best possible care!

Posted by: zongaash | July 20, 2009 4:40 PM

Where was Steele, when money was being spend on IRAQ and youngmen and women dying for his freedom, it o.k. to spend money on a foreign country but not the the good U.S.A. This guy has to be the dummiest jacka$$ in the republician party and not only that but a BLACKMAN, who wants to be WHITE.
Were'nt the republician that said defecit is good, when the Rich People were getting those hugh TAX BREAKS.
WHY DONT WE SPEND A LITTLE CASH ON US.

Posted by: llevario2 | July 20, 2009 4:39 PM

It must be a really slow news day if the Post STILL has this very weak non story as the lead on the website. Or is the RNC now buying ad time/space ?

Posted by: jmsbh | July 20, 2009 4:38 PM

Yo Republicans - Thank you once again for having Obama come out and remind us again...

This is not about Me (Obama) it's about the American People!!

AMERICANS

ARE YOU GOING TO BE FOOLED TWICE??

REPUBLICANS DO NOT HAVE YOUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART

Posted by: danders5000 | July 20, 2009 4:37 PM

How much more bloated does he want to make the wallets of doctors, drug companies and hospital providers at the expense of everyone else?
------------
You know, the doctors I deal with aren't on the side of the insurance companies, victims themselves of the mediocre executive, just like the check-out girl at Target...

Funny, those of the upper classes, comfortably middle class but not wealthy, see themselves as part of the ruling class.

They're not.

A Harvard lawyer to a guy like Cheney is like a McDonald's worker to the average Wall Street Ivy Leaguer...

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | July 20, 2009 4:36 PM

yea right, we're going to start listening to Uncle Ben. Maybe if the poll numbers were reversed, otherwize.... pure politics.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | July 20, 2009 4:35 PM

Why are so many members of the GOP, who claim to be prolife Christians who support family values, so mean spirited when it comes to ensuring families have health insurance to keep our country's children healthy and alive? The GOP’s concern over universal health care increasing our deficit is even more absurd given the GOP's support of the Iraqi war that was based 100% on lies. The Iraq war generated trillions of dollars of debt while destroying hundreds of thousands of families affected by the million plus deaths of mostly innocent Iraqi men women and children and American soldiers. How can members of the GOP support creating debt to destroy so many families, yet be so opposed to helping American families? The GOP’s logic is bizarre.

Posted by: bruwho1 | July 20, 2009 4:29 PM

How much more bloated does he want to make the wallets of doctors, drug companies and hospital providers at the expense of everyone else? It's alright to bail out them and the bankers government money by the gross tonnage, support farm and milk prices, all socialism to be sure, the government funding, supporting and salvaging the markets, but that is alright, because it provides for the wealthy. But any government insurance program to cover those not affluent is socialism. Hand outs to the rich, but trickle down for the unaffluent, let them eat cake for medical care. See my blog, http://www.wrathofmcgrath.com

Posted by: jaspatk1701 | July 20, 2009 4:28 PM

Funny...

the democrats and republicans are right.

One side is trying to get the uninsured, insured.

The other side is trying to lower the cost of doing business (for mainly businesses that pay for healthcare...) and promote healthier living.

This country needs to decide what the priority is: get everyone ensured, or be more efficient and reduce legal crap.

Of course, no one, and I mean no politician is talking about real healthier living (less stressful work) and better food, eating habits...

Healthcare was a simple concept turned into a complex mess by the politicians.

Posted by: recharged95 | July 20, 2009 4:20 PM

Steele's comments are nothing more than rhetoric. The Republican Party had the WH for 8 years and Congress for 6 of the 8. If they had solutions, where were they? The American people voted heavy for the Democrats to reform government and not conduct business as usual. To do less is not what the electorate chose. Attacking healthcare reform will not gain the Republicans votes. They had the chance and blew it. The American voter is not buying what they are selling. The best advice is to work for a bi-partisan solution and stop the rhetoric.

Posted by: whilzinger | July 20, 2009 4:19 PM

The Repos keep this society in the 19th century as regards laws that care for people. Western Europe is far ahead on health care, education, and use of public funds for peaceful purposes, not warmongering. Will the Repos ever evolve? Even many conservatives have evolved in approach to environment and some social pgms.

Posted by: Towards_Light | July 20, 2009 4:18 PM

Why do conservatives listen to this fool? He is proposing to dictate to everyone how they can live...Lose weight and save money, yeah right. Who will determine "healthy"? The government. One size fits all, one CBC set of numbers for all; doesn't matter if it is healthy for you or not.

The GOP plan will also restrict care and everyone knows it. The current system, supported by the GOP restricts care. Their system will be a nighmare beyond all belief. Here is an example:

You want to drink, smoke, or eat too much...sorry no coverage for you,

You found your happiness and it does not meet with the GOP's notion of good...your out.

We need health care reform and it needs to start on the base notion that basic health care is a core human right. It should not be totally free, nor it should it be expensive. It should cover things to keep you healthy, and it should cover treatments that are proven to cure.

Experimental treatments should be covered under a different program for those who wish to particpate (be the human test subject) and that should be totally free for the person.

Posted by: skramsv | July 20, 2009 4:17 PM

This UNCLE TOM wants President Obama to "slow down"...
We haven't waited long enough?

Token Black "man" at the helm of the cretin party...they deserve each other...

Posted by: kase | July 20, 2009 4:15 PM

It amazes me that Republicans have the gall to try to impede Obama's progress on his health care agenda by labeling it a dangerous public experiment. This is, after all, the party whose elected leaders used outright lies and doctored data to sell the country on the bold experiment of making Iraq a beacon of democracy in the Middle East.

Obama's gamble has an empirical basis and will cost us treasure. The great Neo-con con was based on a pipe dream and was paid for in blood and money.

Posted by: exco | July 20, 2009 4:15 PM

Dang! My post got zapped and there was no profanity.

Maybe I'm posting too much and too close to the truth.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 4:13 PM

Slow the economy and increase the deficit. Mr. Steele should be an expert in that. Bush and the GOP left the economy in such a slow situation we had depression II. And of course, three Republican presidents--Reagan and two Bushes--added over ten trillion to the deficit.

Don't trust the Republicans. Remember the Medicare Drug Bill sponsored by the GOP and written by the drug and insurance companies? We got a huge donut hole, and skyrocketing drug and insurance prices after the first year.

Millions are without health care, under insured or being cut out of paid-for health insurance when they get sick (they call it rescission). The only solution is a strong public option plan to limit abuses and reign in costs. Otherwise it will just be Medicare D all over again.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | July 20, 2009 4:05 PM

Also, sometimes those Evangelical, and other, churches will be able to help with medical care if needed, professionals sometimes volunteering services to help out when needed.

Where I live, the local clinic charges 160.00 for a visit without insurance(!), offering a sliding scale if you're unemployed or if you have a couple of kids to care for. Also, the county health departments offer vaccinations for a reduced cost, sometimes free...

If it's a problem, check those types of programs, the care is good enough.

These are middle-class people needing to takw advantage of these programs, btw, teachers, laid-off management, et.al, not those d*mned illegals.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | July 20, 2009 4:05 PM

Having edited my own comment before posting it, in order to remove "profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments", I'm left with this:

Michael Steele....

Posted by: douglaslbarber | July 20, 2009 4:02 PM

I had Cancer over 25 years ago. Then just four years ago my Ins. Co. DROP me because I did not tell them about the Cancer I had. Now there is no Ins. Co. that will cover me and if there is one, I will not be able to pay for the Premiums because of my prior illness that happen over 25 years ago. I had Medi-Cal Ins. until just last year. They did not care if I have Cancer over 25 years ago. But I lose that Ins. too because of the California short fall of money.

We do need a Health Ins. for people like me and all the millions of people that have had serious illness in past like me. I know if the Government got involved. People like me could be Ins., along with the ability to make the Premiums Payments to whom ever is the Insurer. They say Competition is the Cornerstone of American Capitalism.

Posted by: gjhardtimes | July 20, 2009 3:58 PM

Obama is acting too quickly on health reform? That's a ridiculous comment. We've been fighting for health care reform since the 1930s and, time and time again, the obstructionist GOP party comes to the aid of its corporate sponsors and fights it off.

Posted by: chi-town | July 20, 2009 3:57 PM

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It didn't take long for an "uh-oh" moment when reading the House's "health care for all Americans" bill. Right there on Page 16 is a provision making individual private medical insurance illegal.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854

Posted by: tdl62 | July 20, 2009 3:46 PM "

That's an outright lie. I have page 16 of the bill open on my desktop right now and there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that says individual private insurance will be illegal.

Absolutely nothing.

Liar.

Posted by: WWWexler | July 20, 2009 3:57 PM

Many of us could benefit from more physical activity, h*ll, I'd venture to say that ALL of us could. But that doesn't mean someone doesn't deserve health insurance. Sometimes, things just happen. Testicular cancer, for example. Or a slender man with gout (yes, it DOES happen). Or kidney stones.

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This is reality, and the DC people are so removed from it they don't understand what is happening.

I've never seen people so dissociated from problems they purport to administer.

Laughable.

And on top of it all, they're stupid.

I don't even bother, figuring it's better to develop an alternative around them, if possible.

They're just too dumb.

If you're sick, underinsured or without insurance or unemployed, sometimes you can find a doctor who routinely works on the poorer side of town offering care on a reasonable, for cash basis.

It won't be what you're used to, but on the other hand, you're not controlled by the insurance companies, and if you need simple heart medication, you can get it without going further into debt. Maybe you can find a type of medical co-op...

Eventually, without true reform, we will ALL end up with our health care paid for by the government as the current system cannot sustain, the think tanks and lobbyists trying to advise here making Chuck Todd look like a rocket scientist.

It's that bad.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | July 20, 2009 3:56 PM

Why is Obama Hiding the Budget Report. The release of the budget update is usually scheduled for mid-July but the white house has put off releasing the report until the middle of August after Congress has left for summer recess.

Maybe that's why it is important for Obama to pass Healthcare, and Cap-and-Trade?

Posted by: tdl62 | July 20, 2009 3:48 PM

It didn't take long for an "uh-oh" moment when reading the House's "health care for all Americans" bill. Right there on Page 16 is a provision making individual private medical insurance illegal.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=332548165656854

Posted by: tdl62 | July 20, 2009 3:46 PM

The Republicans are the experts on how to swell the deficit and slow the economy. However, it may be better to attribute that to their gross incompetence not any special skill.

Posted by: merrylees | July 20, 2009 3:46 PM

Q - Will Tort reform lower medical costs?

A - No! There are too few lawsuits to effect the overall cost of health care.

Tort law though is a primary safe guard aganist having delapidated physicians. If Americans were terrified over 9-11 the absent of tough tort laws would be horrific.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 3:46 PM

Obama's healthcare plan is more political payback just as his Stimulie was payment to big business...

$58 billion of your Stimulus tax dollars or more accurately, your children’s tax dollars — are being used to pay foreign banks, a substantial portion of that money ($43.5 billion) is being used to pay American banks, including Goldman Sachs, Merill Lynch, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wachovia, Morgan Stanley, AIG International, and JP Morgan.

The following recipients of President Obama’s trickle-down-to-my-donors bailout plan rank among his top 20 contributors to his 2008 presidential election campaign, according to Open Secrets:

Goldman Sachs: $955,473

Citigroup: $653,468

JP Morgan Chase & Co.: $646,058

Morgan Stanley: $485,823

Three other banks that were significant contributors to Obama received money through AIG:

Bank of America: $274,493

Wachovia: $214,151

AIG: $112,170

Lehman Brothers, which did not survive long enough to join the list of banks leaching off the work of the American taxpayer, also gave the Obama campaign $276,088.

Individuals identifying themselves as working for the banks above gave Barack Obama’s presidential campaign $3,617,724. In other words, more than 3.6 million reasons for the president to help focus the media’s glare on the relatively minuscule $165 million in AIG executive bonuses, and away from their $43.5 billion portion of $100 billion of taxpayer dollars the administration, by design or incompetence, filtered to other banks through AIG.

In receiving $43.5 billion for their investment of just over $3.3 million, it looks like the banks that gambled on Wall Street certainly got their money’s worth out of their investment in Barack Obama.

No wonder Obama said:

"If we do not move swiftly to sign the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act into law, an economy that is already in crisis will be faced with catastrophe," Obama said during a meeting with fellow Democrats in Virginia.

His donors wanted their payback...Now, we know why the president wants Nobama-care passed before August recess....

Bought and paid for....just another politician...

Posted by: tdl62 | July 20, 2009 3:45 PM

Here is a summary of someone that recently attended a conference on health care reform sponsored by La Raza.

Someone from Menendez' office promised that he would make sure that "the useless barriers of citizenship would not be in this bill" and that he would make sure that they would use keywords like "streamline"...

Speakers actually got up and said "Latino children need health care more than whites". And then they would say things like "you must go out into your communities, use words like 'streamline', use phrases like 'all workers' and 'all families'," because they said -- and I quote -- "If the American people find out that this bill is about giving health care to non-citizens, they will rise up against it."

One of the quotes they said was, "We want to make sure we take care of barriers like verification, but we can streamline programs to the more affluent" and, quote, "Useless treatments for the elderly can be gone because we don't need to spend money for people who are going to die anyway."

They also said, "We are very concerned there will be an effort to include" the illegal immigrants in this argument, so "we must make sure that we focus this" to the American people that it's looking like we want "health care for everyone".

And they also said that 75% of the children who will be picked up in this will be non-citizens and that 44% of the uninsured are non-citizens and they can't possibly allow the American people to know this."

Menendez' office said that he's going to make sure that "a family of four that makes $66,000 a year or less will pay nothing at all for the new health care.

And he was the one who said he was going to get rid of specifics like "citizenship status" and focus on, quote, "equity for all workers". And he said he's going to make sure that the Latino immigrants are the focus of the health care reform.

And La Raza said if they get this, they don't even care about amnesty, because they've fixed it so that one family member can apply for all extended family members. And, if you think we have a problem with illegal immigration now, wait 'til you see the borders when this thing gets passed.

Posted by: tdl62 | July 20, 2009 3:43 PM

Funny with republicans how it's OK to invade a country in 2 weeks based on lies and manipulation...

but it's "NO WAY JOSE" with health insurance reform... that republicans have killed anytime it ever made it to the floor of either house - over the last 20 years?

Repugnant affair laden hypocrytes is ALL the republicans are. Educated White Trash.

Posted by: jfern03 | July 20, 2009 3:41 PM

NObamacare has included a provision that is called a "Duty to Die" in the Healthcare bill...

Pages 425-430, if they counsel a mental patient or confused older person they can get them to sign a refusal to accept medical treatment. Duty to Die came from the Stimulus Bill that NOBODY read. It had a Health section.

Obama even danced around this topic at townhall meeting. Obama said, “We need to think about costly testing and surgery for older patients.”""

The penalties to doctors is contained in a few more pages. Sadly, the penalties was also in the Stimulus Bill that already passed. “Penalties” to be assessed to physicians who “spend too much” on individual patients."

The Duty to die portion compels seniors to submit to a counseling session every five years (and more often if they become sick or go into a nursing home) about alternatives for end-of-life care (House bill, p. 425-430). The sessions cover highly sensitive matters such as whether to receive antibiotics and "the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration."

This mandate invites abuse, and seniors could easily be pushed to refuse care. Do we really want government involved in such deeply personal issues?

Shockingly, only a portion of the money accumulated from slashing senior benefits and raising taxes goes to pay for covering the uninsured. The Senate bill allocates huge sums to "community transformation grants," home visits for expectant families, services for migrant workers -- and the creation of dozens of new government councils, programs and advisory boards slipped into the last 500 pages.

America needs to contact their leaders in Washington to ensure they read this crap...My guess it was written a long time ago just waiting for the right time to shove it down our throats...

Posted by: tdl62 | July 20, 2009 3:40 PM

Lose weight, eh? That's what the GOP wants us to do?

OK, you tell me.

Bush voter or Obama voter (I can do this all day, but I won't)

http://darwen.us/darrell/blographics/090201c.jpg

-Wexler

Posted by: WWWexler | July 20, 2009 3:40 PM

Posted by: Maddogg
"Q - Can a tax increase balance the budget?

A - No! The size of the tax increase necessary to balance the budget will not fly politically for either party. But someday that decision will be forced....but it is not time yet. The US will continue to devalue the dollar.

Health care reform though will help reduce the deficit by limiting health care costs while keeping quality high."

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Can you provide a link to any analysis that backs up your theory that Obama's health care plan will reduce the deficit by limiting health care cost while keeping quality high? Are the doctors going to suddenly work for free? Do you think lawsuits (reason for high insurance premiums) will either decrease or disappear under the government run program? If doctors will be required to accept X number of government patients versus private ensured patients, do you think the quality of care will match, especially if the government dictates what the fee will be for a service?

I don't disagree that health care needs some work, but I don't see this as a magical solution. I am curious though where constitutionally we are entitled to health insurance. I can see the government creating regulations, but should they really be providing coverage?

Posted by: jim_maryland | July 20, 2009 3:39 PM

"Medicare is viewed solely in DOLLARS and not at all in millions of healthy older people."

I think you mean they are viewed as "economic units" rather than as people. Regardless of age.

Posted by: Skowronek | July 20, 2009 3:39 PM

The House Health Care Bill, 1,018-page document, released this week (July 14th, 2009) reveals some concerns as noted by http://www.healthinsurancetexas.biz and http://www.selecthealth.biz Mike Oliphant serves as health care consultant with these two popular websites in Utah. He also is a serving board member with Utah Association of Health Underwriters. A provision within this bill would indeed outlaw individual private coverage. Under the Orwellian header of "Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage," the "Limitation On New Enrollment" section of the bill clearly states:

"Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day" of the year the legislation becomes law.
This translates into those who currently have private individual coverage won't be able to change it. It is likely that those same people will suffer abnormally high rate increases over time which would force them out of coverage. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.
From the beginning, www.benefitsmanager.net and www.dentalinsuranceutah.net warned that if the government gets into the business of offering subsidized health insurance coverage, the private insurance market will wither. Drawn by a public option that will be 30% to 40% cheaper than their current premiums because taxpayers will be funding it, employers will gladly scrap their private plans and go with Washington's coverage. The nonpartisan Lewin Group estimated in April that 120 million or more Americans could lose their group coverage at work and end up in such a program. That would leave private carriers with 50 million or fewer customers. This could cause the market to, as Lewin Vice President John Sheils put it, "fizzle out altogether."
What wasn't known until now is that the bill itself will kill the market for private individual coverage by not letting any new policies be written after the public option becomes law. The legislation is also likely to finish off health savings accounts, a goal that Democrats have had for years. They want to crush that alternative because nothing gives individuals more control over their medical care, and the government less, than HSAs. With HSAs out of the way, a key obstacle to the left's expansion of the welfare state will be removed.
SelectHealth.biz states that the public option won't be an option for many, but rather a mandate for buying government care. A free people should be outraged at this advance of soft tyranny. Washington does not have the constitutional or moral authority to outlaw private markets in which parties voluntarily participate. It shouldn't be killing business opportunities, or limiting choices, or legislating major changes in Americans' lives.

Posted by: mikeoliphant1 | July 20, 2009 3:38 PM

Can't say I agree with Steele most of the time...think he's pretty ineffectual in his current position, but that being said, I'm glad he spoke up. The monstrosity that Obumbles is trying to jam through needs to be looked at closely. We are going to be stuck with it for a long time if it passes. Doesn't hurt to at least, I don't know, READ it...

One termer.

Posted by: luca_20009 | July 20, 2009 3:37 PM

"Lets see what did I hear the other day, the 2006 forecast for Medicare was 9 billion and the reality was 100 billion. "

Here you have the Republican mindset in a nutshell. (An appropriate vessel for the Republican mind, after all.)

Medicare is viewed solely in DOLLARS and not at all in millions of healthy older people.

DOLLARS -- getting them by taking them from other people, and keeping them despite needs of the community -- are all that matter to them.

Posted by: RealCalGal | July 20, 2009 3:34 PM

Q - Are there memebrs of the Senate and House that desire to represent the people's interest?

A - Good question. There are a few on both sides, but very few. The real prize they seek is the pension and lifetime health care benefits they get from being elected and re-elected.

As I said, Republicans hate socialism unless they are the beneficiary and that is not a good philosophy to have when you represent American's.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 3:34 PM

These are the same people that told us that Iraq had WMD.

Didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them now.

They're on the take.

-Wexler

Posted by: WWWexler | July 20, 2009 3:33 PM

steele gets pelted with oreo cookies while running for office and losing, bushlite gets a few shoes thrown at him.these two losers represent the repug party. their leader limpaugh tells the uncle tom what to say, and steele like the puppet he is has to obey or limpaugh will yell at him on the radio, and steele will have to ask big rush to bend over so the kissing can begin.the biggest joke is the repugs put kissy face steele out there to counteract the prez, no comparison.whatever the party of no suggests, the american people should do just the opposite.

Posted by: ninnafaye | July 20, 2009 3:31 PM

Posted by: Obama_TRAITOR_in_Chief
Republicans have never said that health care doesn't need fixing, but the monstrosity Obamacare proposals in the House and Senate are absolutely the WRONG way to do it!
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Republicans are great at saying, “it’s the wrong way to do it!”; but offer no viable solutions...except for “losing weight, and stop smoking!” How is that supposed to fix the enormous problems we currently face with Healthcare?

Posted by: BasicInstinct | July 20, 2009 3:31 PM

"A good friend had a cousin in England who had three strokes and then died while waiting to see a doctor. My friend had no reason to lie to me."

I do not actually believe this story as told. What COULD have happened was that the cousin did not KNOW s/he was having strokes. That's what happened to my sister. But as soon as she went in, it was stat emergency room, etc. all the way. I do not believe ANY medical system would make ANY stroke patient wait to see a doctor. More than a few minutes, anyway.

PS, while visiting England, my husband had an asthma attack and was seen within an hour, free.

Posted by: RealCalGal | July 20, 2009 3:30 PM

Mr. Steele, needs to hush and help come up with a solution. We are Americans are suffering from lay-offs and can't afford the cobra crap! I'm sick of hearing about the socialism crap from the GOP leaders but no alternative plan. We need better health care. Period.

Posted by: 2mtsenie | July 20, 2009 3:29 PM

Michael Steele, or should we say uncle Tom Steele. If you keep humping that republican, rich white man leg so hard, and you're going to hurt your back. But that's OK, you probably have health insurance.

Posted by: TRACIETHEDOLPHIN | July 20, 2009 3:29 PM

Q - Do Republicans hate socialism and communism and what is behind the sue of these words.

A - In answer to the first part of your question Republicans do not dislike socialism or communism. They love that collected taxes (communism) goes to pay for their government run free health care (socialism).

The second part of the question is that the Republicans are being dishonest to their voters and these words (communism and socialism) are employed as "HOOKS" to reel in their voter base.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 3:28 PM

Michael Steele commenting on health care?

Same guy who says he's going to bring Blacks into the Republican party by offering fried chicken and potato salad?

Yeah, right.

Posted by: kjohnson3 | July 20, 2009 3:27 PM

Steele: "fear,fear,fear,scary,socialism,fear, experiment"

I am so tired of the "fear factor" approach by the Republicans. Its the only counter they know how to use. Shaking in their boots and hiding behind their big business PAC's. Enough of the bull-lony. Tell me WHY health costs have tripled as compared to wages, tell me WHY insurance companies cancel policy holders midterm of their coverage, tell me why MY insurance premiums continue to go up despite the fact that I am HEALTHY (for now and knock on wood). Our Health Care System is shuddering and needs triage ASAP.


Posted by: Norswed | July 20, 2009 3:25 PM

Someone else made this point, and it needs to be emphasized. Steele's job is to be one of the lead foot-draggers for the GOP. The longer they can put off positive change, and the closer they get to mid-term elections, the more likely they can point to failures. Also, it's his job to shill for big insurance and big pharma, and if he can help slow the process of change, again, the GOP is more likely to be able to claim Dem failure.

Posted by: artemusmartin | July 20, 2009 3:24 PM

People are naive if they think the Republican position has anything to do with Health Care. It's all about power and getting it back. They don't give a rip one way or the other. They think there is an edge here and they are going to push it.

Why doesn't Mr. Steele terminate his medical coverage (likely paid for by RNC dues and fees) and go and procure it in the private sector? Show us how it's done Mr. Steele. Tells us how affordable that "experiment" is.

Posted by: smileyzjohn | July 20, 2009 3:24 PM

Health care costs are rising 10-12% a year, and have for the past 10 years or more. As a health care agent, I have seen the costs rise so much, that families that have had coverage for years can no longer afford to carry it.
As for rationing, which is a Republicant buzz word, we've had rationing for years, led by insurance executives denying coverage to eligible patients.
And let's not forget Michael Steele, who can't say anything without the approval of Trash Limbaugh, or some other idiot.
All Republicants know is fear and hate. The party of no.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | July 20, 2009 3:23 PM

Michael Steele, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Karl Rove. I could go on...but the "voices" of the GOP are on a trainwreck to a permanent minority.

Posted by: miken1984 | July 20, 2009 3:22 PM

Many people are being laid off and if they can't afford COBRA, they are without health insurance. Once COBRA is gone, you really have to find a job in order to afford health care insurance.

And given that many people can and are denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition (and you'd be appalled at what can disqualify you--or that you'll have to hide), that's a really risky thing to do. Not all medical conditions are absolutely 100% "your fault", genetics and environmental issues do come into play.

Many of us could benefit from more physical activity, h*ll, I'd venture to say that ALL of us could. But that doesn't mean someone doesn't deserve health insurance. Sometimes, things just happen. Testicular cancer, for example. Or a slender man with gout (yes, it DOES happen). Or kidney stones.

I don't know what the perfect solution could possibly be, but it doesn't involve NOT providing health coverage. But I would venture to say that we are all open to ideas addressing the issue. ERs and mobile yearly health clinics are not the same as a primary care physician and taking care of small problems before they become huge ones.

Posted by: Skowronek | July 20, 2009 3:22 PM

Now that we have a black President, the Republicans suddenly get religion about minorities? Michael Steele and Bobby Jindal are the Great Black Hope of the GOP? Please. After 45 years of the "Southern Strategy," is anyone dumb enough to believe this? It's "compassionate conservatism" in black face. Ugh, disgusting! The GOP wants to kill health care, they want to kill Social Security, they want to kill social programs of every kind and give all the money to multi-national corporations. Behold compassionate conservatism in all its devious glory.

Posted by: rbmurals | July 20, 2009 3:21 PM

Dr. Gratzner was quizzed by an astonished Canadian media after his FOX interview where he relented his critque saying FOX had truncated and altered his replies thus misrepresenting his views. Dr.Gratzner had been relieved of his post of president of the CMA prior to the interview for his stewardship and the root of his complaint is that he was unable to bill clients directly. He has been praticing within the existing parameters since coming to Canada as an immigrant (he disliked the wait before being accredited) and continues to do so and I note he did not move to the States to open a practice. BTW in Ontario, we have a series of walk-in clinics that offer the same service as and compliments the family practice. Primariy these clinics serve those without the need for a family doctor such as young single adults,(you know the ones don't have insurance at all in the US because it's too expensive), immigrants, street people and transients. McConnell rose in the US Senate to rattle off horrible stats. about a small town hospital in Ontario that just happened to be the hometown of the Conservative Party Leader in the Canadian Senate, who set him straight with a very correcting letter which in part noted that wait time for sugery to correct gall stones was amusing, we use ultra sound to smash them then the patient passes the problem. Sen. Segal went on to note that the life span in Ontario is 80+ years vs 74+ in Kentucky. The salacious and misleading comments about our system from the US astound me, why do you do it?

Posted by: sjag1 | July 20, 2009 3:20 PM

Hello Michael Steele can you please let us know how it is in the masters house! It is not difficult to spout NO and be an obstructionist to our nations progress. To actually hope our President fails is beyond the pail. I remain confident in the man our nation elected with a mandate to bring about CHANGE. The status quo is broken and must go of that there is no doubt in the minds of the majority of Americans citizenry. We pay more than any other country and our results are abysmal. You did not hear any crying when their team was spending us into bankruptcy on a war based on a lie now did you. By the way Mr. Steele do you think you have graduated from the porch to the big house and should you be changing your name now to TOM? Come on America we voted the right man in for the job it is time to rise up and get the health care ball across the goal line. Obamanos!

Posted by: pedraza1 | July 20, 2009 3:20 PM

askgees:

Are you really so selfish and spiteful and full of hate that you think the unemployed should not have access to health care?

Plenty of people in this economy are unemployed because of the economic crash brought on by unchecked greed. Is that their fault? But you would let the richest country on earth ignore their suffering and sickness?

Let me guess -- you call yourself a Christian?

Posted by: trace1 | July 20, 2009 3:18 PM

Hey pj24, I'm not lazy and I don't have health insurance because

1) my employer doesn't provide it, and there are NO other jobs to get where I live, and

2) I have a "pre-existing condition" (asthma) which allows every single health insurance company to deny me coverage.

Go suck an egg.

Posted by: RealCalGal | July 20, 2009 3:16 PM

Given the sorry policies and poor execution by Republicans for the past 8 years, they have proven beyond doubt that anything they say will be wrongheaded.

It's saving me a lot of time now that adults are in power, to completely ignore any whining from Republicans.

Maybe in a few years they can earn back enough trust for me to take them seriously.

Posted by: FlamingRealist | July 20, 2009 3:14 PM

Actually, health insurance is one of the (few?) things that the government does well. Just ask any federal employee.

Or member of Congress.

Posted by: trace1 | July 20, 2009 3:14 PM

WOW. Repugs using the "socialism" card ... again. It's probably time to get a new deck, this one has got to be getting pretty frayed. Did you hear the one about the little repug that cried "wolf", I mean "socialist"?

Posted by: jgh2 | July 20, 2009 3:13 PM

Shut up Steele. You are the guy who could not even run your low level business which showed you to be a total failure in handling financial metters. You are a disgrace.

Posted by: truth1 | July 20, 2009 3:13 PM

Baby Boomers, Democratic and Republican alike, would WANT to get behind some form of universal health care because, as of this morning's report, for the first time in the history of this country, their numbers, in retirement, will be higher that those in the workforce. That will translate into much higher health care expenses as the lifespan of U.S. citizens continue to increase. You will soon learn how very little Medicare/Medicaid actually cover.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | July 20, 2009 3:08 PM

mean look at how well Welfare, Soc Security, Medicaid, Medicare have done for us. Those were all Dem programs. Lets see what did I hear the other day, the 2006 forecast for Medicare was 9 billion and the reality was 100 billion.
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Let's see, they were also responsible for creating s social net responsible for crafting the American superpower by enabling its middle class economically and intellectually...

And how did you profit by the labor and intellect of others?

Now tell me why you support supply side -- oh, right, you can't, because you have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | July 20, 2009 3:07 PM

If the Heath Care Bill were a Health Care Pill by the pharmaceutically companies, they would be required by these same Demo-Rats to list the ingredients and side-affects!

These corrupted liberal fascist Demo-Rats are shoving all these Bills down our throat with no review, disclosure, openness, transparency, or debate!

Posted by: theaz | July 20, 2009 3:05 PM

Look say what you want about Steele, but you liberals are tearing this country apart and turning it into some twisted Socialist fantasy land. You complained when Bush had a deficit of 500 million. News flash campers, BO is pushing 1.2 Trillion for just Health Care.

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People who can pay for private health insurance, worthless as it is, can't even get insurance because of a preexisting condition as minor as acne, say, or very mild hypertension. Why? Is this justifiable? What happens when it's a heart problem, say, and a formely middle class 45-year-old man's life is dependent upon treatment and medication?

Are you aware of this?

And in this time of lay-offs, this is truly a crisis situation we are facing, the health care industry dragging the country down, the healthcare sow so fat she can't even stand on her 4 legs but still, asking for more.

I'd restructure the whole thing, implementing price controls across the board until the system was able to achieve some sort of equilibrium. But they won't, and they will collapse, cause they just don't when to stop.

And they are entitled to a profit, but they are not entitled to create a monopoly, destroying the public health as well as the private businesses forced to accomodate their horrific management (GM, anyone?).

And at that point, they're destroying, threatening the country, and well, then, like Wall Street, they're a problem.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | July 20, 2009 3:02 PM

Getting opinions from Michael Steele is about like receiving advice from Pa Kettle.

Posted by: cphill851 | July 20, 2009 3:00 PM

I think we should give BO a chance.

I mean look at how well Welfare, Soc Security, Medicaide, Medicare have done for us. Those were all Dem programs. Lets see what did I hear the other day, the 2006 forcast for Medicare was 9 billion and the reality was 100 billlion.

I think that is great. I love deficits to the ends of the earth. What do you think we could get for Hawaii? Maybe throw in Guam. Do you think China will take another IOU?

Posted by: EdwinBear | July 20, 2009 2:58 PM

Word from the RNC is slow down, it is mostly Democrats who are suffering. There is only a crisis when the people with wealth are in trouble. Mr Steel has a tin ear except when the lobbyists are speaking.

What a piece of work.

Posted by: Gator-ron | July 20, 2009 2:56 PM

this hit the nail on the head - and to me is the problem. not hospitals not doctors, but the insurance companies who feel they can dictate what they FELL LIKE covering.

anytime you have an insurance company that tells you that they dont want to cover your surgery because you havent reached stage 2 cancer yet, are crooks.

Note to Repubs:

I am self-employed. It was incredibly easy for me to obtain affordable medical coverage - absolutely no problem there at all. The problem is that the coverage was worthless. In no way whatsoever did it improve my access to or ability to afford health care when I needed it. This is because the insurance company I used was so G.D. greedy that they refused under any circumstances to reasonably compensate health care providers - many of whom, as a result, dropped all of their patients using this company.

The insurance company in question bills itself as a non-profit corporation. Yet, somehow, they take in nine figures (that's $100 million-plus) every year more than they pay out in benefits or in covering their own massive operating expenses.

It's snake oil they are selling, and the only solution for me - as well as the rest of the country in my opinion - was to stop buying it.

Do not ever, ever make the mistake of equating "coverage" with health care, and stop letting your so-called leaders continue to make this potentially fatal mistake.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | July 20, 2009 1:53 PM

Posted by: spaganya | July 20, 2009 2:56 PM

WHO DO YOU TRUST?

What is it with Republicans, Libertarians, Naysayers, and Cynics?

You allowed the Private Industry to ruin our banking system, our health care system, our 401ks and retirement accounts, the retention of jobs here at home in the private sector, put the country in two wars, and then you $itch about it. Quality Education is down in the toilets, the U.S. Infrastructure is down in the toilets.

And then Mr. Obama comes along and tries to come up with plans to clean up the messes and turn things around. And, what do the naysayers and cynics do, well they $itch about that also. Because they don't want to pay for it. Whine, Whine, Whine.

When are the cynics going to understand, you can't have it both ways. Something has to be done. In addition, I don't see corporate America coming up with any plans to try to help save the day.

The GOP & Corporate America created the unemployment conditions. What do they call it, oh yea, a Competitive Market.

The GOP & Corporate America created the mortgage crisis, along with some in the Congress. What do they call it, oh yea, a Competitive Market.

The GOP & Corporate America drove up the Private Insurance cost for medical care. What do they call it, oh yea, a Competitive Market.

The GOP & Corporate America are the ones who has sent the jobs overseas. What do they call it, oh yea, a Competitive Market.

The GOP & Corporate America are the one that has forced millions of people into poverty. What do they call it, oh yea, a Competitive Market.

And yet, there are people who complain that gov't sponsored jobs, health care, et al will put Corporate America out of business or send more companies over seas.

What do we call this? Free Market Enterprise competing with our Government, "We the People".

The way I see it, you have two choices.

1. Continue to allow the Free Market Enterprises and the GOP Establishment to continue screwing over you; OR

2. Support Mr. Obama with his Domestic Policy Agenda's. Your well-being, your children's well-being, and their children's well-being depends on it!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | July 20, 2009 2:55 PM

Q - After Bush ignored the warnings pre 9-11 should Republicans be trusted with the government?

A - No! When we hear people like John McCain saying health benefits should be taxed it is an alarm. McCain is living off of his wife's trust fund and is not even in the real world.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 2:55 PM


Steele is a Bore, so are All Republicans and Neo-libs except if they all marched four abreast into the SEA and never came back that would be really fun news.
The only thing a Repug is good for is Privatizing the Income and Socializing the Losses, War, Torture and No Taxes for the Rich... they especially like Off Shore Accts.
But the issue here isn't Health Care as dufus Steele would have you think.
The issue is Capitalism and the Problem is Predatory Capitalism. We have a golden opportunity to deep six the predators that Steele, the Repugs and the Neo-libs (Baucus,Emanuel,Kerry,Kennedy,all the DLC) love soooo much.
What is so amazing is the ding bat woman who utilized public assistance posted prior to mine) doesn't want anyone else to have public asstance - well, Dear Selfish, everyone will have to pay a tax on their income for Single Payer/HR676 and granted some won't, like the Blind or challenged in someway, but all will be required to pay some amount... and clearly that woman is a Limbaugh mouth piece or to stupid to comprehend that lining the pockets of the Insurance barons is NOT good for her or America, she refered to them as 'Private corporations' i believe - Don't ppl like this ever see how much obscenity is pouring out of the Insurance Barons pocket$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?
What in the world is wrong with these lame brains who think that lining the coffers of the super rich insurance barons is good for America? Only a Repug would think so.

Posted by: Darwin26 | July 20, 2009 2:53 PM

Suppose the Federal Prison System was malfunctioning in a big way. Scary terrorists, bombers, and assassins go in, but, somehow, they manage to escape. Do you suppose Republicans would call for reform even though some argue that fixing the Federal Prison System would be a budget breaker, job killer, and will louse up the way prisoners are handled in the Best Nation in the World, bar none? Now, suppose America's Healthcare Non-system is malfunctioning in a big way. Do you suppose Democrats would call for reform even though some argue that fixing America's Healthcare Non-system would be a budget breaker, job killer, and will louse up the way patients are handled in the Best Nation in the World, bar none? I rest my case.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | July 20, 2009 2:51 PM

If you are a hard-working, tax-paying, responsible person in the middle class, here's how the loonies will scr*w you to the wall:

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Oh, you mean the kooks in the insurance business and the right-wing tools who mindlessly support them?

I hear ya, d0od!

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | July 20, 2009 2:50 PM

Look say what you want about Steele, but you liberals are tearing this country apart and turning it into some twisted Socialist fantasy land. You complained when Bush had a deficit of 500 million. News flash campers, BO is pushing 1.2 Trillion for just Health Care.

Posted by: EdwinBear | July 20, 2009 2:49 PM

Q - Can a tax increase balance the budget?

A - No! The size of the tax increase necessary to balance the budget will not fly politically for either party. But someday that decision will be forced....but it is not time yet. The US will continue to devalue the dollar.

Health care reform though will help reduce the deficit by limiting health care costs while keeping quality high.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 2:49 PM

It would be in the best interest of the Republican Party to look around for a "NEW CHAIRMAN", if anyone listen's to Michael Steele, they really need Health Care, they need their "HEAD EXAMINE."

This guy Steele, is a "PARROT", with a suit on. The party Bosses,(Limbaugh, The Newt, Cheney), feed him a "CRACKER", and he starts talking.

Mr. Chicken and Potato Salad one week, all of a sudden he is an "EXPERT". on Health Care Reform the next week.

Steele needs to stay out of "GROWN FOLKS CONVERSATIONS".

Naturally the Washington Post would print this "GARBAGE", hoping the Republican "SHEEP", would jump all over it.

"TYPICAL, YELLOW JOURNALISM."

Posted by: austininc4 | July 20, 2009 2:49 PM

most people know these proposals are ridiculous, inconsistent, and unrealistic. we don't need to hear it from michael steele, though. rnc should let this die on its own, and quietly point to the missteps.

Posted by: Waffle1 | July 20, 2009 2:47 PM

The massive loony-left d-crat tax increase on the wealthy for their socialized healthcare boondoggle is only the tip of their massive tax iceberg!

If you are a hard-working, tax-paying, responsible person in the middle class, here's how the loonies will scr*w you to the wall:

IF YOU DO NOT BUY hussein's MANDATORY healthcare insurance, the IRS will penalize you 2.5 percent of your income!

AND WHAT WILL YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS MANDATED INSURANCE? Estimates range to MORE THAN $4000 PER PERSON PER YEAR!!!!

NB: the slugs, slackers, losers and deadbeats that make up the loony-left d-crat party won't have to pay ANYTHING as part of the loonies' massive socialist wealth redistribution effort.

Americans must take back our country from the incompetent and irresponsible loony-left d-crat socialists who are goose-stepping the country down their "Road to Hell".

Posted by: LoonyLeft | July 20, 2009 2:46 PM

Republicans have never said that health care doesn't need fixing, but the monstrosity Obamacare proposals in the House and Senate are absolutely the WRONG way to do it!

Posted by: Obama_TRAITOR_in_Chief
________________

Proof of my earlier point. GOPers are good at words like "traitor" and "wrong" but is there one solid alternative mentioned in the post above? No.

Posted by: arancia12 | July 20, 2009 2:45 PM

The GOP is irrelevant as far as healthcare reform is concerned. They have no dog in the fight. All they can do is repeat their sad refrain. NO. NO. NO. Its up to the timid demcrats to pass this bill. They must think boldly and give the people what they want.

Posted by: demtse | July 20, 2009 2:45 PM

Only an excuse. The economy and the deficit has no bearing on a persons' well-being. Monetary values are the reasons this country is in a sad status. Every American should be intitled to affordable, perhaps free health and dental care, thereby decreasing the cost of hosital care by preventive measures. This country has too much going for it, no politician should prolong the insufficient dogmatic plan of high premiums by the persistant call of a debate. If the coverage is provided the small print will be no problem. I am a descentant of poverty and I know for sure "things can get done". It only requires heart.

Posted by: alwaysalabama2 | July 20, 2009 2:44 PM

Q - Can the US ever just balance the budget (forget the debt).

A - No! There has simply been too many misdirected tax cuts over that last 28 years. Ending the wars will make America safer and help reduce the deficit...but not eliminate it.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 2:44 PM

If the Republicans were truly an opposition party who presented another viewpoint, they might be relevant. However, it's hardly shocking that the RNC ripped something President Obama proposed. If Obama said the sky is blue Steele would rip it.

The GOP is excellent at pointing out that programs need fixing, but they seldom offere fixes. Instead they just "rip."

Posted by: arancia12 | July 20, 2009 2:42 PM

Broken finger w/ Insurance: $50.00 copay. Person with insurance pays for it.

Broken finger wo/Insurance: $3,350.16
The American people pay for it.


I have a copy of my bill if anyone cares to see it.

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Mkay, try this:

Sprained ankle, w insurance, as 20% copay: 300.00.

This, in addition, to a monthly health insurance cost of 1200.00.

I have the bills to prove it.

Something is wrong here, and I'll put my bill up against yours, anytime.

And whatever you do, don't get sick, because if you, it will break you financially, and if, god forbid, you lose your job, you will NOT be able to obtain private insurance.

But then, at those costs and with that coverage, why bother?

They are THAT inept and THAT incompetent.

I truly pity the 45-year-old middle class man with heart trouble, needing medical care, facing a lay-off.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | July 20, 2009 2:42 PM

Steele is just being rather vocal against healthcare reform because the GOP is OWNED by insurance companies and pharmaceutical makers.

If you don't understand that believe that, then you still believe Hussein had WMD's.

Besides, anything the GOP would propose would result in utter failure.

Posted by: jfern03 | July 20, 2009 2:42 PM

Stop the presses for a moment, who do you think is going to pay for all of this?

Posted by: EdwinBear | July 20, 2009 2:41 PM

How should any Republican or Democrat complain about health care for all when they are getting a free ride. I understand they don't pay into social security and get a free pension plan and we the people pay for it. Now is that socialism they get free money and do nothing in congress, ecxcept complain about the Democracts who are at least trying to help America & the American people. The Republican are the most selfish members of congress, and the dumbist. M.Steele is a Uncle Tom, thank you. Let's get health care for all Americans, and exclude all Republicans. thank you

Posted by: wballard3 | July 20, 2009 2:40 PM

Republicans have never said that health care doesn't need fixing, but the monstrosity Obamacare proposals in the House and Senate are absolutely the WRONG way to do it!

Posted by: Obama_TRAITOR_in_Chief | July 20, 2009 2:38 PM

Q - You are a retired insurance company executive. How to insurance companies make their profits?

H - In the health care business profit is grown by denying claims and limiting coverage. In the end though insurance premiums are sort of like a tax (where all contribute) and they go up based on what is paid out as a group. There is also red lining to boost profits.

Health Care Reform will eliminate these problems so people are not wasting their dollars on coverage they think they have...but don't.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 2:36 PM

Where do Congress and the President get the idea that the government should be providing the citizens of this country with a health-care plan? Why does being your neighbor obligate me to take care of you ? www.blogginnoggin.com

Posted by: blogginnoggin-com | July 20, 2009 2:34 PM

Republicans proposals such as encourage employees to lose weights, etc. is just a smoke screen. It's a bit like trying to combat gorilla with a match stick. Who are they kidding? Nearly 1/3 of Americans are obese and waddling down the street and they come up with such a feeble idea? It's a single payer system, period. Cap liability insurance to dramatically cut down the doctor's expense which drive up the medical cost! Congress. Have some back bone and come up with a real solution!

Posted by: pelohoki | July 20, 2009 2:33 PM

the right funneled huge amounts of money its own way for 8 years, and then tanked the economy, hoping to blame obama. they did the same thing to jimmy carter, after a similarly embarrassing president.

Posted by: cattheanimal | July 20, 2009 2:33 PM

Here is Michigan, after almost 7 years, our Gov., Jenny Granholm, still blames the previous administration for all her ills.

So when does this become Obama's responsibility?

This isn't Bush's fault, this is Obama's health care plan and his voice urging passage "right now"! Bush had nothing to do with the Stimulus Bill, the recent Budget, the Cap and Tax, and now BOs health plan. I would also like to point out that Pelosi and Crew had 2 years before Bush left office to make some serious impact, with Majorities in both houses, and did nothing. And btw, who was the 1st President to Run an annual deficit? JFK thank you. So this isn't all Reagon's fault or Clinton's or Bush's.

BO has broken every promise he made to us during his nomination acceptance speech. You know the one with the pillars behind him in Denver. Obama is just a front for the radical left, no different then Bush was a figure the neo cons could hide behind.

They are all liars and cheats and when they aren't kissing babies they are stealing their lolly pops.

Wake up and realize that BO is no more driving this then I am. He is being pushed and driven by Axelrod, Rahm, Bagala, etc. He is no more moderate than Bush was. Just two sides of the same old political coin.

And I voted for the guy, not again.

Posted by: EdwinBear | July 20, 2009 2:32 PM

THE ONLY AMERICANS WHO DO NOT SUPPORT HEALTH CARE REFORM AND INSURANCE REFORM ARE THOSE WHO ARE GETTING RICH OFF OF THE CURRENT BROKEN SYSTEM, AND THEIR UNDEREDUCATED PARROTS WHO LISTEN TO AM RADIO.

Posted by: onestring | July 20, 2009 2:31 PM

At least Michael Steele didn't offer to bring fried chicken and potato salad to the Senate committee rooms. The guy's a laughing stock.

Posted by: mattislavin | July 20, 2009 2:31 PM

Q - Is health care rationed in the US now?

A - Yes! Your insurance company rations care and denies care on a daily basis. National Health Care Reform will fix this gap.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 2:30 PM

The Republicans solution to our enormous healthcare problems...and I quote: "set up programs that reward employees who lose weight, stop smoking or take other measures to improve their health."
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Response:
WTF?! LMFAO!!!!!!!!

Posted by: BasicInstinct | July 20, 2009 2:28 PM

The Washington Fox News Post is all fo' shizzle over the RNC drizzle on reform efforts relying on no less of an expert than Michael Steeley Dan.

What new is on deck for tomorrow? Rush wanting Obama to fail; Republicans being sore losers; Glenn Beck crying and trying to choke self on air; Cantor digging Britney; Boehner if it last for more than four hours contact a physician who will not take your insurance; or Blue Dogs who are Yellow Bellied Sap-Suckers?

Posted by: Patriot3 | July 20, 2009 2:27 PM

Why is anyone discussing Steele,

He is a pathetic b00b...


Just goes to show that WAPO and the
rest of the media don't care to
produce meaningful reports of the
neglect of our healthcare industry
or politicians.


Time to vote them out in our primaries!!!

Posted by: theman_in_black | July 20, 2009 2:26 PM

Slow down ...... Why? Reformation of our health care system has been an issue debated in Congress since the 1950's. After nearly 60 years, it is hardly rushing things to do now what should have been done so long ago.

Posted by: prtzl | July 20, 2009 2:25 PM

With regards to the rank ordering, my father fell ill in Costa Rica during a trip. He got better treatment there than from the best in the world healthcare system in Texas.

We're number 37!

BB

Posted by: FairlingtonBlade | July 20, 2009 2:23 PM

I wish people would spend more time on the message here than on the messenger or prior messengers. It's like Steele has an abush awaiting his every word.

In essence, Steele is saying what a lot of Americans are feeling -- this health care package is too much, too fast. Trying to do this inside a broken economy which the incumbents are still baffled to fix, is reckless. That's simple.

Maybe if we diddn't had two wars and a collapseed consumer market we could have better financial footing to take on this risk. But, that is not the case. So, people (particularly in this column)who try to blame this on Bush or Reagan or Coolidge, might want to consult their parenting books and look up "tantrums," name calling, and "foot stomping" for two year-olds. Because that is how your pronouncements read.

And, for those who reference FDR's bold federalist initiatives, read the history -- if it weren't for WWII breaking out, our economy was headed back into depression by the end of 1943.

And for those of you who ridicule Steele for being a "token," I hope you take your repressive, bigotted, racist attitudes to some other paper.

Posted by: DOps | July 20, 2009 2:23 PM

In response to "theobserver4" who is in turn responding to "pj24":

"Welfare got completely overhauled in the Clinton years and nobody is eating caviar on those plans. Same goes for unemployment and where are you living where you see this everyday?"
- I've seen both sides of this. I was temporarily on assistance (for about 2 months) and can say that I was very conservative in spending any of that assistance checks. I've also seen examples of people using assistance checks to buy frivolous items (2 liter of soda) at a convenience store that they could have bought at a grocery store for much less. Not only that, these people generally dressed in much nicer brand name clothing than what I was able to afford at the time. You'll see both extremes for people living on government assistance.


"More fantasy than harry Potter. I know two people who are unemployed and miserable.....they're busting their humps to try and get a job again because the plan and Cobra are awful. So let's not apply personal anecdotes to the entire US population.....it's dishonest. Not that I believe you were attempting to be honest in the first place."
- Depending where you live, the reality of the numbers may surprise you. My father did a lot of construction renovation work (section 9 housing) in some poor areas of Pittsburgh and saw plenty of examples of abuse of the system. People either don't have the skills to get a decent paying position to get out of the assistance system (either because the system doesn't provide enough toward education or the person simply doesn't take advantage of what is available).

"If people were held accountable then we'd be seeing a lot of Wall St hanging from the scaffolding in NYC, Dick Cheney hanging by his toes upside down from the flagpole on the capitol and Bush would be in stocks on the Mall while people throw rotten vegetables at him."
- Plenty of blame to go around from both parties. Don't forget to include negligent investors trying to "flip houses", speculators on futures markets, etc.... The economy is more than a problem of the past presidency (really multiple presidencies).

Posted by: jim_maryland | July 20, 2009 2:23 PM

Mr. Steele should be careful he might get tangled up in his strings (puppet strings that is)

Posted by: lildg54 | July 20, 2009 2:22 PM

The Republican Party---our bridge to the 11th century! In case the chairman forgot, the huge deficit was a product of Bush junior and the Republican Party---no one else! What universe are the living in, ont ours.

Posted by: mrsltc1 | July 20, 2009 2:20 PM

Nationalize health care and do it now!

Don't listen to the Republicans (and many Democrats) with their healthcare and insurance industry "handlers" dolling out $1.8 million per day to kill less expensive and more available public health care, like what just about every other developed country in the world has.

Don't believe the propaganda. Ask anybody in those countries if the want insurance companies running the show and they would laugh you off to the funny farm!

Posted by: pcc7407 | July 20, 2009 2:20 PM

Nationalize health care and do it now!

Don't listen to the Republicans (and many Democrats) with their healthcare and insurance industry "handlers" dolling out $1.8 million per day to kill less expensive and more available public health care, like what just about every other developed country in the world has.

Don't believe the propaganda. Ask anybody in those countries if the want insurance companies running the show and they would laugh you off to the funny farm!

Posted by: pcc7407 | July 20, 2009 2:19 PM

What I am understanding, from all these negative news articles and reports, is that Obama has lost standing in how he has handled the health care issues and not on how the American people have changed their mind on wanting better health insurance options.
Its funny how the "paid for by lobbyists" lawmakers scream about spending on health care and education but hand over a blank check for unneeded wars without even a whimper. The way our country has been sold down the river is nothing less than the deeds done by Benedict Arnold. And shame on us for just letting it happen.

Posted by: 45summer | July 20, 2009 2:18 PM

Who cares what this Sambo has to say?

Posted by: bigbrother1 | July 20, 2009 2:17 PM

Hitler killed 6 million Jews. The Republican party wants to one-up him by killing 47 million of their own nations people. They didn't care when dead people were floating in the streets of New Orleans, and they don't care about people now. After they kill health reform, they will try to blame it failing on somebody else.

Posted by: fishingriver | July 20, 2009 2:16 PM

Oh, the genius that is Michael Steele. If Michael Steele says something, you know it's like a Papal Bull. Because he knows that health care is like a hat - some people wear it on the side, some people wear it backwards, and some people wear it jammed in their posterior. Why, don't you wish HE WAS PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: Dolmance | July 20, 2009 2:16 PM

Steele and the rest of his America-hating Party of No should go back to Russia where the rest of the Red Bushies are.

We don't want them here.

America - love it or leave it.

Posted by: WillSeattle | July 20, 2009 2:11 PM


Hey simpled$%k. If you want to pay for those that fail to take care of them selves feel free. I'm sure there's some dead beat around you. Feel free to give him half your pay check. But don't expect those of us that WORK and pay for our own family to subsidize the one's on welfare.

Posted by: askgees | July 20, 2009 2:15 PM

You want to fix healthcare then deport the illegals. If this is a n issue then allow hospitals to refuse treatment of anyone not legal.

Posted by: askgees | July 20, 2009 1:55 PM

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No, Mr. Garrison, we cannot get rid of the Mexicans.

Posted by: jromaniello | July 20, 2009 2:12 PM

Is this the same Michael Steele who earlier today demonstrated a complete ignorance of what was actually contained in the health plan proposal? Steele is a complete joke...

Posted by: Groundhogday1 | July 20, 2009 2:12 PM

NO TO HEALTHCARE REFORM if it covers unemployed, illegal or welfare recipients.

NO if they try to end the coverage we have now.

Posted by: askgees | July 20, 2009 2:11 PM

Steele and the rest of his America-hating Party of No should go back to Russia where the rest of the Red Bushies are.

We don't want them here.

America - love it or leave it.

Posted by: WillSeattle | July 20, 2009 2:11 PM

The REAL HEALTHCARE FIX
________________________

We the People need to formulate a list
of the politicians that are taking
bribes from the AMA, Insurance Industry, &
the Pharmacutical Industry.


Matching up the list of Political corruptees -

We the People need to vote OUT these
thieving political hacks in the primary process.


We did it through the mid-term elections and
we the people did it to get Obama nominated
over the Clinton Dynasty...

We the People can do it again for what's
right for the majority of America.

Posted by: theman_in_black | July 20, 2009 2:10 PM

Q - What does Steele's remarks remind you of?

A - The time George W. Bush said America is no longer protected by oceans in reference to 9-11. The imbecile didn't know we weren't protected by oceans in 1776 or 1812 either. Steele follows in the footsteps of Bush.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 2:08 PM

This is the guy that said he was done apologizing.


He never apologized.

for ANYTHING!

The Republicans left America holding the bag...

The Iraq War bag
The TARP bag
The Afghan war bag

all HUGE stinking piles...

and since then, they have been obstructionists; hoping that all recovery plans fail, so they can return to power to screw things up again.

I don't think so.

Take your Sarah Palin and go home, Michael.
We don't anything else you are selling.

Posted by: vigor | July 20, 2009 2:08 PM

I am Canadian senior citizen. I have seen some Republican propaganda in US TV about long lines and rationed care with Government bureaucrats in between. I can say that nothing is farther from truth.

I have used health care regularly and I would not change our system to anything specially not to the one where insurance company is in charge.

I can see any physician I choose, anywhere in the country, that physician can refer me to any specialist, anywhere in the country and I have never had any problem getting in, in time and being treated profesionally and first class. In case of emergency I have entered nearest hospital available and received instant care.

I can se health care charges only if I make a written request to OHIP.

Our system I understand is much cheaper and covers all Canadians. Since I turned 65 I also have all medication covered with annual max. of $100. That includes all medications. Some drug stores charge prescription fee from $2. to $6. each, some do not charge any fees for seniors.

Our system is paid partly from general revenue (taxes) and partly in some provinces by health care levy which is geared to income and has maximum annual top which I believe in Ontario is somewhere about $800. I have never reached maximum.

I am paying presently much more for my out of country travel health insurance to spend 3 months in Florida during winter. Our system pays medical emergency costs there only to the extend of customary doctor and hospital charges in Canadian system which seem to be only 10% to 20% of US hospital charges. Somebody in my view is ripping off you my friends there. Some insurance companies seem to be also rationing your care as I have learned from my friends there

There has been push by US insurance companies and private hospital companies to come here and set up their own shops but thank God their succes has been very limited.

Good luck with your all inclusive reform.

Posted by: lumilinnutahooca | July 20, 2009 2:06 PM

Not shocking that the supporters of both parties are towing the party line in here. When are we going to realize that both parties are corrupt? Am I really going to trust Steele, Obama, Pelosi or any other politician? Not anytime soon. Both parties have become a joke and people just blindly support their side without questioning how much money each side is receiving from special interests in the health and insurance industries. Change from Obama? What a joke. The Republicans? The party of Bush. LOL.

Pretty simple. We need a major overhaul.

Posted by: JDR1970 | July 20, 2009 2:05 PM

Please!! This is from a man who can barely pay his mortgage and would be destitute if it didn't pay so well to be an Uncle Tom. When criticizing healthcare reform, he better hope the RNC doesn't fall behind on its health insurance premiums.

Posted by: PepperDr | July 20, 2009 2:04 PM

Q - Isn't Ron Steele a little late on his "Slow Down" talk?

Y - Yes. The time for that talk was before rushing into Afghanistan and Iraq.

Now Americans are dying on American streets from no health care. Steele sounds anti-American.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 2:01 PM

Q - Why is the budget deficit out of control?

A - Too many wars that are not paid for and too many tax cuts. Health Care Reform will slow the deficit by cutting health care spending while retaining quality care.

The deficit though cannot be eliminated the way the government is structured now without a tax increase or combination of big cuts in defense and CIA.

Failure to do one or more of the above will eventually result in the collapse of the US currency.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 1:57 PM

Michael Steele? Didn't he run for governor of Maryland? Didn't he lose?

LOSER! just like all the other repugnican a+holes.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | July 20, 2009 1:55 PM

Criticizing is fine, it even helps, when followed by lucid suggestions for improvement. The party line GOP battle cry of "let capitalism fix it" isn't even close. Private industry has had, let me think, 233 years to 'fix it', at least 30 years since we've known this cost-crunch would drag the whole economy down, and, private industry hasn't 'fixed it'. It's almost like they don't want to...

Posted by: blackmask | July 20, 2009 1:44 PM


You want to fix healthcare then deport the illegals. If this is a n issue then allow hospitals to refuse treatment of anyone not legal.

Posted by: askgees | July 20, 2009 1:55 PM

Prominent Republican ripping Obama is not news. Repeat: it's not news. Just like dog bites man, is not news. A story maybe, but it is not news. It certainly is not new. Ah well, WaPo is rapidly becoming the Nats of journalism. Low budget, weak effort, not very interesting.

Posted by: gbooksdc | July 20, 2009 1:55 PM

Note to Repubs:

I am self-employed. It was incredibly easy for me to obtain affordable medical coverage - absolutely no problem there at all. The problem is that the coverage was worthless. In no way whatsoever did it improve my access to or ability to afford health care when I needed it. This is because the insurance company I used was so G.D. greedy that they refused under any circumstances to reasonably compensate health care providers - many of whom, as a result, dropped all of their patients using this company.

The insurance company in question bills itself as a non-profit corporation. Yet, somehow, they take in nine figures (that's $100 million-plus) every year more than they pay out in benefits or in covering their own massive operating expenses.

It's snake oil they are selling, and the only solution for me - as well as the rest of the country in my opinion - was to stop buying it.

Do not ever, ever make the mistake of equating "coverage" with health care, and stop letting your so-called leaders continue to make this potentially fatal mistake.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | July 20, 2009 1:53 PM

Socialism? Why are Republicans so stupid?

Posted by: Holcombe1 | July 20, 2009 1:53 PM

I'm quite sure that if asked, Steele couldn't even remotely define socialism.

Posted by: kep1 | July 20, 2009 1:51 PM

Q - Was it the Socialist policies of FDR in the 1930's that saved the US recently from fiancial collapse.

A - Yes. Unemployment compensation, the FDIC, Social Security and so forth.

NOTE: As we can see from Republican comments (language) they are still stuck in the 1950's fighting the cold war. Only Obama can bring us into the 21st Century.

Posted by: Maddogg | July 20, 2009 1:51 PM

President Obama made a valid point. It is not about him. When the Republicans talk about making this his Waterloo, they are turning health care for a whole lot of hurting people into politics and politics alone.

I'd remind the GOP--50 million are uninsured. Millions more are under insured. Tens of thousands are undergoing rescission, losing paid-up health insurance because they have contracted expensive illnesses. And millions more could lose their health insurance any day because they will lose their jobs or the insurance companies will irrationally exclude them.

This is about people, hurting people! The big health care organizations and insurance companies have taken people's money (in the billions) and not provided adequate health care to this nation.

It is time for a public option health care plan now. Only that will deal with the abuses and control skyrocketing health care costs.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | July 20, 2009 1:49 PM

The REAL HEALTHCARE FIX
________________________

We the People need to formulate a list
of the politicians that are taking
bribes from the AMA, Insurance Industry, &
the Pharmacutical Industry.


Matching up the list of Political corruptees -

We the People need to vote OUT this
thieving political hacks in the primary process.

We did it through the mid-term elections and
we the people did it to get Obama nominated
over the Clinton Dynasty...

We the People can do it again for what's
right for the majority of America.

Posted by: theman_in_black | July 20, 2009 1:48 PM

THIS IS IT!

The healthcare reform bill released by the House Of Representatives is an excellent bill as I understand it. It's a bill with a strong, robust, government-run public option, and an intelligent, reasonable initial funding plan to cover almost all of the American people. It is carefully written, and thoughtfully constructed, informed, prudent and wise. This bill will save trillions of dollars, and millions of your lives. It is also now supported by the AMA.

This is the type of bill that all Americans can feel good about. And this is the type of bill that has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of healthcare for all Americans. Rich, middle class and poor a like. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and all other party affiliations. This bill has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of life of every American.

The house healthcare bill should be viewed as the minimum GOLD STANDARD by which all other proposed healthcare legislation should be judged. All supporters of true high quality healthcare reform should now place all your support behind this healthcare reform bill released by the United States House Of Representatives, as the minimum Gold standard for healthcare reform in America.

You should all now support this bill with all your might, and all of your unrelenting tenacity. This healthcare bill is a VERY, VERY GOOD! bill for all of the American people. Fight tooth, and nail for every bit of this bill if you have too. Be aggressive, creative, and relentless for this bill.

From this time forward, go BIGGER and DEEPER with the American people every day until passage of healthcare reform with a robust, government-run public option.

FIGHT!! like your life and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. BECAUSE IT DOES!

SPREAD THE WORD

Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&feature=player_embedded)

God Bless You

Jack Smith — Working Class

Posted by: JackSmith1 | July 20, 2009 1:48 PM

Odumbo and his standard approach. It's critical and must be completed now instead of correctly. Thank God for a few with common sense.

Posted by: askgees | July 20, 2009 1:48 PM

I'm a retired federal worker. I worked 37 years knowing I wasn't going to get rich but I would have a decent annuity and good health insurance. Everyone needs good health insurance however WE pay for it.

Posted by: ingramjr | July 20, 2009 1:45 PM

Criticizing is fine, it even helps, when followed by lucid suggestions for improvement. The party line GOP battle cry of "let capitalism fix it" isn't even close. Private industry has had, let me think, 233 years to 'fix it', at least 30 years since we've known this cost-crunch would drag the whole economy down, and, private industry hasn't 'fixed it'. It's almost like they don't want to...

Posted by: blackmask | July 20, 2009 1:44 PM

So, it's okay to whack the deficit to bail out billionaire's banks and to pay people with more than enough money to live well the rest of their lives huge bonuses, but not to begin to provide medical care for folks too poor to afford it. It's a typical rich guy's attitude, held by most Republicans and some Democrats. They've got theirs; they don't care about you. And that's the operative phrase: don't care.

Posted by: stuck_in_Lodi | July 20, 2009 1:44 PM

For those few of you interested in facts:
The average profit for health insurance companies is 3% of premium collected.86% of premium goes for reimbursement to doctors, hospitals...6% goes to company costs for employees and overhead and 5% goes to prevention programs and technology.Compare this profit margin with other industries before you get exised over greedy companies...

The Republicans did in fact present a health care reform bill on May 20th titled "Patients Choice Act" S1099 which was quickly dismissed in conference.The entire bill is readily available if you google it. For those of you who can get beyond your emotion, you may want to read it and compare it the President's plan.

Too many of you appear to want to stamp your feet and shout emotional outbursts so you do have to be confused with the facts.

Posted by: bz11 | July 20, 2009 1:44 PM

It is funny that Michael Steele used the word experiment because he is an experiment for the GOP. He is a failed one at that. He is just a front man with really no purpose but to be what he always has been a puppet. What else do you do with someone who doesn't have the sense God gave a baboon and doesn't have the guts to stand up to Boss Limbaugh.

If you look the laws and legislation supported by the GOP favor business and big corporations. They create a smokescreen that makes it look like it is for the American people's benefit. But as we have seen, when the smoke settles, it is the corporation and big business that benefit while Americans are left in a lurch. When they fail, it is America they beg to bail them out.

Like many people have said they are criticizing President Obama's Health Plan? What else is new? They criticize everything he does. I think they decided when he got in office they were not going to attempt to work with him. Any hopes of bipartisanship are dead.

I think it would better for them politically if they would try to meet him halfway, try to offer some workable solutions but instead the party of no offers no answers, no better plan. Just the same old failed policies of the past.
Put business first and their benefits will trickle down to all of Americans. Well newsflash, that trickle down stuff of their GOP hero Reagan, doesn't work anymore. This is a man who wanted to substitute ketchup for a vegetable on student lunches. Please.

While the Democrats are not saints, at least they are more about real people than the GOP will ever be. The only ones the GOP really care about is people who are just like them. If you are not one of them, to heck with you. If anyone needs a lesson from Dr. Seuss it's them.The only time they care about Americans is when it comes to election time. They use fear tactics to get people to vote for them. How can you believe people that have to stoop so low to put them in power?

Right now with the next elections of 2010, and 2012 coming up the GOP has not done much to turn to tide. As long as they have people like Michael Steele, and the Rush Limbaughs of this world representing them, they will continue to be the party of No, except this time it will be the American people saying NO, just like the did in 2008.

Posted by: bjlopez1130 | July 20, 2009 1:42 PM

I'm sure Steele forgot to mention the following statistics of WHO ranking of healthcare by country (just the first 50):

1.France; 2.Italy; 3.San Marino; 4.Andorra; 5.Malta; 6.Singapore; 7.Spain; 8.Oman; 9.Austria; 10.Japan; 11.Norway; 12.Portugal; 13.Monaco; 14.Greece; 15.Iceland; 16.Luxembourg; 17.Netherlands; 18.United Kingdom; 19.Ireland; 20.Switzerland; 21.Belgium; 22.Colombia; 23.Sweden; 24.Cyprus; 25.Germany; 26.Saudi Arabia; 27.United Arab Emirates; 28.Israel; 29.Morocco; 30.Canada; 31.Finland; 32.Australia; 33.Chile; 34.Denmark; 35.Dominica; 36.Costa Rica; 37.United States of America; 38.Slovenia; 39.Cuba; 40.Brunei; 41.New Zealand; 42.Bahrain; 43.Croatia; 44.Qatar; 45.Kuwait; 46.Barbados; 47.Thailand; 48.Czech Republic; 49.Malaysia; 50.Poland

The "greatest" is ranking at #37, while a country like Colombia (which is often looked down upon) is at #22. Gee, SOCIALISM has France at #1, Italy at #2, Spain at #7, UK at #18, Canada at #30.

Maybe, he can be inspired to get metrics on health outcome as well as costs.

Posted by: hadelaide | July 20, 2009 1:41 PM

Modern "Socialism" originally took off as a reaction to the robber barons of the 19th century who sold public goods for private gain.

At least they offered something tangible (land, oil, water, railroads, timber, etc.). The new robber barons are the private insurers, who sell the HOPE of access to medical care for cold hard cash. The fact that such hope is so often false, or exaggerated, is a reality that can no longer be kept hidden.

Private insurers help no one but themselves. As the self-appointed gate-keepers to a mythical resource that sucks up nearly 1/5 of the USA's entire GDP, it is they that slow the American economy, not the government.

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | July 20, 2009 1:41 PM

Steele is a blabbering idiot. Just look at his approach to wooing the black vote - give them "chicken and potato salad". Maybe he'll suggest handing out fivers next.

Maybe it's time for Steele to read Harriet Beecher Stowe, because this guy IS working in the big house and on the wrong side.

Posted by: Guerote | July 20, 2009 1:41 PM

21st century Black-on-Black aggression!

Posted by: forgetthis | July 20, 2009 1:39 PM

This man is a step or two beyond his level of competence. I do not know whether this is a bigger or tinier Peter Principle. How can he, a descendant of slaves, take a position that is so much that of the man in the big house? I can understand this kind of utterance from the Delays and that type but not from this past Lt Governor who has an opportunity to pull some folks in his party towards reality. At some time in the near future, all Americans will have appropriate access to healthcare without the threat of bankruptcy. We may take a long hard road or the more direct route but we will get there. Calling it socialism is fine with me. This is the philosophy at the base of our Social Security and Medicare systems and operates well in other countries, all of whom have better savings rates and heralth indices than we do. Leadership needs to find a way to get a product that can be applied safely to Congress as well as the people who vote for them. They can call it Capitalism as long as it is not the same as Capitalism that has 20 percent of our population without coverage and has caused the banking, loan and mortgage crises that challenge us. Just have health insurance that's available to all.

Posted by: Draesop | July 20, 2009 1:39 PM

I'm listening to what Steele says b/c he's right this time, for a change. And so are a lot of my friends and family ( who are not Republicans) Universal Health Care does not work. It.Won't.Work. and those who think we will get treatment just like congress does is fooling themselves. Obama likes to talk about change but not the kind of change that will actually help.

I agree we need reform...but this isn't the way.

Posted by: rumornlies | July 20, 2009 1:37 PM

You say this like Steele has any credibility. He's the chief fool on a ship of fools.

Why is the United States incapable of doing what the rest of the industrialized world does - provide affordable health care to it's citizens?

It couldn't be because corporations own this country and our politicians owe their loyalty to corporations? Naw, that couldn't be it.

Posted by: FauxReal | July 20, 2009 1:37 PM

RNC-GOP: There's nothing Wrong with Our Health Care System...Nothing !!

Were #1

Number 1 in...

Obesity, Diabetes,Cancer, Amputations, Heart & Lung Failure...

Alzheimers and Number 1 in [Cost]

Number 1 in Health Care being 16-18% of the GDP..

We're Number One !!!!!

-------------------

RNC & GOP Propaganda: He's a...

Communist,Socialist,Stalinist, Leninist, Marxist, Islamist, Terrorist, Fascist..

Extremist !!!!

Are they Scared To Death Yet ?

Not Enough...

Archie Bunker's Ghost: He's a Commie Pig !!


Michael Steele: Yeah, That's the Ticket..

He's a Commie-Socialist Pig !!

Michael Steele is a Tool the RNC will get RID of within a [Year] when he Fails to Do what the GOP wants.

Posted by: omaarsblade | July 20, 2009 1:36 PM

The republicans are just scared because their trust funds are about to be taxed when Obama's plan passes. And all this BS about the economy?! He hasn't even been President for a year and we're in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Surely American's aren't stupid enough not to know it takes longer then 7 months for a massive country like this to recovery from near economic failure!

Posted by: MissRed | July 20, 2009 1:35 PM

Republicans have never said that health care doesn't need fixing, but the monstrosity Obamacare proposals in the House and Senate are absolutely the WRONG way to do it!

Posted by: Obama_TRAITOR_in_Chief | July 20, 2009 1:35 PM

I'm sticking with one simple demand. Every citizen's plan should be as good as the Congressional Plan. Please note: health care for citizens only.

Since we have the model it shouldn't be hard to put it together.

Posted by: rusty3 | July 20, 2009 1:33 PM

In 8 years the Republican controlled Congress ran up an $8 TRILLION federal debt. For most of that 8 years they spent billions on the Iraq war that finally drove the GOP out of office to make the point to them that it was a waste. They sat on their hands, put the regulatory function of government in a straightjacket- and now they stand around potificating about how medical care for average Americans cost too much.

I don't know if I find its the spin that insults our intelligence or the lack of concern for our citizens that the most sickening part of their stance.

Posted by: Fiftyeight | July 20, 2009 1:33 PM

RNC-GOP: There's nothing Wrong with Our Health Care System...Nothing !!

Were #1

Number 1 in...

Obesity, Diabetes,Cancer, Amputations, Heart & Lung Failure...

Alzheimers and Number 1 in [Cost]

Number 1 in Health Care being 16-18% of the GDP..

We're Number One !!!!!

Posted by: omaarsblade | July 20, 2009 1:32 PM

So let me get this straight. The rest of the industrialized world can provide health care for all of its citizens but we cannot? I guess that makes us the greatest county in the world, right?

Posted by: GeorgHerbet | July 20, 2009 1:31 PM

Is'nt it ironic that any member of congress who have the best health care in the world for themselvs,& family for life being paid for by all us taxpayers would deny their fellow Americans some form of Healthcare coverage that don't even approach what they have. What happened to Gov't for the people.

Posted by: arnold449 | July 20, 2009 1:29 PM

Despite all evidence to the contrary, Michael Steele is not a moron; he just plays one on TV and in the columns of the real morons on the staff of the Washington Post.

Posted by: SamThornton | July 20, 2009 1:29 PM

RNC & GOP Propaganda: He's a...

Communist,Socialist,Stalinist, Leninist, Marxist, Islamist, Terrorist, Fascist..

Extremist !!!!

Are they Scared To Death Yet ?

Not Enough...

Archie Bunker's Ghost: He's a Commie Pig !!


Michael Steele: Yeah, That's the Ticket..

He's a Commie-Socialist Pig !!

Michael Steele is a Tool the RNC will get RID of within a [Year] when he Fails to Do what the GOP wants.

Posted by: omaarsblade | July 20, 2009 1:28 PM

Medical care is really one big liberal "experiment"? Yeah, let's return to the 14th century!

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | July 20, 2009 1:26 PM

President's before him and their staffs have conducted enough "experiments"why not with the healthcare that is delivered to the citizens of the United States?Regardless of who is being insidiously murdered for not being given the appropriate,medically necessary healthcare.The cumulative affects of having a multicultural approach to the deliverance of healthcare,with or without insurance.Add in organizations like the arab hospitals federation which is a "center for the exchange of ideas in healthcare management,policies,and services"and some links which could be useful for these people are WHO,International Hospital Federation,JCAHO,Amreican University of Beirut Medical Center,Ministry of Helath-Bahrain,Ministry of....in any of 22 mideastern countries along with any deviation of those in the United States and complain too much about not receiving the appropriate care,or question a doctor's diagnosis and they may just have to incarcerate a whole lot of US who care to prevent what happened to US to happen to anyone else.The caring about what happens to others is usually what gets this Registered nurse in a whole lot of problems in the courts,in the workplace,and in a community where diversity and not speaking out about others behaviors rules the world.

Posted by: formerheap | July 20, 2009 1:25 PM

Hmmm - so the health plan is supposed to be like what our government officials get. Yet, the Republicans are constantly complaining how the Americans will pay more & get less. Does that mean our officials in Washington DC will have the same happen to them? I think not!! If we Americans get basically the same plan as our government officials, then I'm all for it. We definitely need something. I now retired & have to pay way more out per month for medical costs than I did when I worked - what's wrong with that picture??

Posted by: AProudDemocrat | July 20, 2009 1:23 PM

The figures in the political arena make me sick to my stomach. None of them come out and state an opinion that is their own. Michael Steeele's comments, coming from a token who's party doesn't even have faith in him, is funny. We common folk all know someone who does not have or did not have a healthcare. My brother-in-law, who died of sickle cell recently, was denied a decent life insurance policy because it was a pre-existing condition. This is America correct?

Lets get off the political grandstanding on all these bills, support bills and plans that work for ALL OF AMERICA, or write your ELECTED officials to come up with bills and plans that work for ALL OF AMERICA. Greed drives WAY TOO MANY decisions made in this nation. Not to admit is to lie to yourself.

The republicans plans do not provide healthcare insurance to does without right now and to say it does is a blatant, bold face LIE! They should be ashame of themselves for even touting crap like that. At least the democrats are trying to do something verses pointing fingers and criticizing.

Posted by: ajackson3 | July 20, 2009 1:22 PM

Mr. Steele is a small man with a small agenda, leading a party that's getting smaller by the day.

Posted by: JoeODonnell | July 20, 2009 1:14 PM

It comes to no surprise that Steele is using the talking point memos in order to delay any kinds of reforms because they do not have the votes needed to fight it so he and others are promoting the "sky is falling routines" that was used successfully in past are doing it again or stoke fear in the base with misinformation so they can help sink it. It is typical of them to argue that despite offering no alternatives they have a plan that they have promoted that does nothing to utilize changes needed to fix the healthcare system . By using these memos they are simply designed to slow it down so when the election of 2010 rolls around they can say Obama did not do anything to fix healthcare but they have a solution which is really keep the inefficient system in place. The media talking heads do a disservice by allowing such propaganda to flourish instead of literally pick their arguments apart in order to force them to be honest -David Gregory is one of those.
Recently I told an eye doctor, while his staff was filling out the insurance form, that Taiwan utilizes the smartcard system that enables patients to get care whenever he chooses and at the same time doctor get paid immediately. His face showed shock that such a system exist.

Posted by: beeker25 | July 20, 2009 1:14 PM

Just more fear-mongering. That is all you hear out of the GOP these days. Steele, the RNC and the republicans are just sad. Steele I'll take your "experiment" and see you one more - the health care bill will cripple the entire economy sending us into a great depression that will make the likes the 1930's seem tame. Good freaking grief.

Posted by: zackool | July 20, 2009 1:10 PM

The last time I looked the economy seems to be in the early throws of recovery no thanks to the Republicans who destroyed it in the first place. The stock market is starting to reflect the early recovery. The present recessive situation in which millions are out of work and without health insurance may be the key to passing a health bill without the help of Republicans and some Democrats who are beholden to an insurance industry that got them elected.

WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES deserve a healthcare system that is not only affordable, but also predictable in services and cost.

Are we going to abandon president Obama and throw him to the wolves on this issue or will the American public get some backbone and stand up to the mercenary Republican Party whose deceit and cunning is on full display? The healthcare issue should be our rallying call to show the despicable Republican Party and its Neo-con backers that we, like Arnold Warshack of Welcome Back Kotter fame once said, are fed up and we won’t take it anymore.

Posted by: jimarush | July 20, 2009 1:10 PM

Think about this. If you can get free health care insurance, money to buy food, money to pay for rent, and no one is asking to do anything in return then what would you do?

Changing health care so that everyone can get it with little or no effort from them will be the same as what has happened with the welfare system. I do not agrue that people who are an asset to the society that they live in deserve affordable health care, but the key word is they are an asset not a drain. The problem is that what is being perposed will become an even larger drain on the people to work to keep our society working with no returns. I am sorry but I see people everyday that do nothing but wait for their welfare check. They do not even attempt to get a job and it upsets me that I work as hard as I can to support my family with out government assistance to turn around and see the government tax me and give it to someone who doesn't even try to help society. Mainly they just complain about how it is the government's fault that they live the way they do.

So as far as I am concerned if the government stopped giving things away for free and started making people accountable then not only will the economy turn around but our society will be better for it. but if you reward laziness then it breads laziness.

Posted by: pj24
*********************************************************************************
Are you from 1994 or something? Welfare got completely overhauled in the Clinton years and nobody is eating caviar on those plans. Same goes for unemployment and where are you living where you see this everyday? More fantasy than harry Potter. I know two people who are unemployed and miserable.....they're busting their humps to try and get a job again because the plan and Cobra are awful. So let's not apply personal anecdotes to the entire US population.....it's dishonest. Not that I believe you were attempting to be honest in the first place.

If people were held accountable then we'd be seeing a lot of Wall St hanging from the scaffolding in NYC, Dick Cheney hanging by his toes upside down from the flagpole on the capitol and Bush would be in stocks on the Mall while people throw rotten vegetables at him.

When we start seriously prosecuting for grand theft pension then you'll have a leg to stand on.

Posted by: theobserver4 | July 20, 2009 1:08 PM

When I was active duty, my entire family was provided excellent health care at the base hospital. Everything, including medications, was provided. If you want to call this socialized medicine, or an entitlement, that is OK with me. But I would just call it government paid health care. Our senators, judges, and other federal employees get similiar government paid health care. Yes, tax dollars are used to pay doctors, nurses, and even ambulance EMT providers.

The ancient question here expressed in Geneis is "Are you your brothers keeper?"

Naturally, people who work in the military and the government take this pledge seriously, "To defend the constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic..." Is this a pledge to look out for the security and rights of citizens? Ans: YES.

Doctors pledge to save lives (Hippocratic Oath - to practice medicine ethically). Is this a pledge to look out for well being of citizens? Ans: YES.

Republicans pledge to lower taxes (Ronald Reagan said, "The scariest words are: I am from the government, and I am here to help."). Is this a pledge to loook out for all citizens? Ans: NO. This is a pledge to the wealthy class -- a special interest group. These are the republicans who brought us the "trickle down / voodoo economics".

These are the republicans who brought us call centers in Bangalore, who brought us broken contracts with america, and who brought us massive foreclosures, and national debt. Off-shore tax havens, CEO golden parachutes, junk bonds, Bernie Madoff, and Ken Lay (ENRON ruler) all LOOP HOLE card carrying corporate raiders, and tax dodgers.

These are the republicans who brought us the failure to help Katrina victims.

Certainly there are plenty of citizens who feel strongly they are "your brothers keeper." The tremendous heart felt outpouring of volunteer disaster relief following Katrina was a strong pledge of "I am my brothers keeper."

Republicans have a choice in this debate. Just like Cain and Abel had in the ancient story of Genesis, and just like Hippocrates of ancient Greece. And just like our Declaration of Independence which asserts LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

It is hard to believe that republicans feel LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS applies only to wealthy class, but that is how they seem to behave.

Posted by: rmorris391 | July 20, 2009 1:08 PM

If anyone in any group should know how to slow the economy and increase the deficit, it's the head of the Republican National Committee. 11 trillion in debt. Plus bailouts. Plus broken healthcare, infrastructure, banking, lending, housing...

Republicans know how to cut taxes for the wealthy and take it from the middle class and poor. Michael Steele and John Boehner are not your friends! They've never been for anyone other than the wealthy. Period!

Posted by: kcbob | July 20, 2009 1:05 PM

Who cares what Steele says, we have learned to ignore him, each and every time.

Posted by: citigreg | July 20, 2009 1:04 PM

Even before there was a President Obama, I did not like Michael Steele. After many years, he still does not have a clue that he is a GOP token who will never be considered seriously for the job at the very top (POTUS)by his party. Go play with Clarence, Mike, if the two of you can stand each other's company.

Posted by: OHREALLYNOW | July 20, 2009 1:03 PM

Let him speak. No one is listening anyway.

Posted by: jckdoors | July 20, 2009 1:02 PM

So far, anything proposed by the Republicans does not provide all citizens with a safety net when they lose their job and can not afford to purchase hugely expensive plans on the open market. It always amazes me when low-income citizens vote for a party who consistently votes against their own interests. Any Republican officeholder thus has no real incentive to fix this problem, by default they have great health insurance for life.

Until health care is fixed for everyone, we will continue to pay through the nose for emergency room visits by uninsured people who cannot pay, which has to be more expensive than figuring out a health care solution for everyone.

Posted by: beargulch | July 20, 2009 1:01 PM

The Real Issue on Healthcarelessness
_____________________________________


President Obama, the Senate, the Representitives,
and the media such as the Washington Post
and Cable News haven't touched the real
issue of the lobbyist influence on this
legislation.


Sure they will get around to mentioning
the Healthcareless industry bribe makers
when congress goes on vacation, but is
that the most effective or relative
way of reporting the news? Probably not...


The media and the politicians equally
participate in the murder of millions of
Americans by taking hush money from the
AMA and insurance industry. Today, the
insurance companies will be meeting with
politicians at a childrens hosp. in DC.
This would be the perfect chance to shine
the spotlight on the infectious rats that
corrupt our political system. But will they
do a proper job of it?


Let's see...


If not we need to vote out all these
politicos that take bribes and deny most
of America from undo sufferng and DEATH.

Posted by: theman_in_black | July 20, 2009 1:01 PM

Think about this. If you can get free health care insurance, money to buy food, money to pay for rent, and no one is asking to do anything in return then what would you do?

Changing health care so that everyone can get it with little or no effort from them will be the same as what has happened with the welfare system. I do not agrue that people who are an asset to the society that they live in deserve affordable health care, but the key word is they are an asset not a drain. The problem is that what is being perposed will become an even larger drain on the people to work to keep our society working with no returns. I am sorry but I see people everyday that do nothing but wait for their welfare check. They do not even attempt to get a job and it upsets me that I work as hard as I can to support my family with out government assistance to turn around and see the government tax me and give it to someone who doesn't even try to help society. Mainly they just complain about how it is the government's fault that they live the way they do.

So as far as I am concerned if the government stopped giving things away for free and started making people accountable then not only will the economy turn around but our society will be better for it. but if you reward laziness then it breads laziness.

Posted by: pj24 | July 20, 2009 12:59 PM

Why would the repubs think that anyone is interested in anything they have to say. After eight years of failed leadership are we to assume that all the repubs went to sleep one night and suddenly woke up smarter then they have been in the past eight years. The repubs are either stupid or they think we are. If you guys know so much why didn't you get it done during the past eight years. Change is needed from your failed governing; shut up and stop resisting trying to make the country better. You guys are not about America; you are all about trying to be in charge no matter how much the country suffers from your poor leadership. SHUT THE F*&K UP!!!

Posted by: sickofit3 | July 20, 2009 12:58 PM

"Uncle Steele's Republikan Log Cabin" is a joke. No more, no less.

Posted by: a_DC_denizen | July 20, 2009 12:57 PM

Broken finger w/ Insurance: $50.00 copay. Person with insurance pays for it.Broken finger wo/Insurance: $3,350.16
The American people pay for it.I have a copy of my bill if anyone cares to see it.
Posted by: A-Voter | July 20, 2009 12:26
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Why don’t you have insurance?
You do understand that under Obamacare the government will require that you purchase insurance whether you can afford it or not, don’t you?
Maybe you should contact a trial lawyer and file a class action suit against the hospital for gouging patients.
John Edwards isn’t too busy! LOL

Posted by: dcn1 | July 20, 2009 12:56 PM

Mr. Steele and the rest of you who brought our country to its knees, nothing you do will distract “the people” from thoroughly investigating the previous administration’s misdeeds.

Posted by: Shanan1 | July 20, 2009 12:55 PM

You know, it was inevitable that Obama was going to face some severe turbulence in his momentum...

But to listed to some completely failed idiot like Michael Steele talk about "Slow(ing) the economy and "..dramatically increase(ing) the deficit..." is just to absurd for words.

His crowd -- for the past eight years -- just killed the economy and blew up the deficit.

Phew.

Kind of takes your breath away.

Posted by: Losercuda | July 20, 2009 12:55 PM

And what happens when you have a procedure that the government won't pay for?

You're stuck with the bill!!!


Posted by: Jules5
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Is there anything in your post that isn't happening right here, right now? On top of the fact that we pay at least a third more for this nightmare scenario?

It's a great argument for the public option since the worst case scenario is we get the same care for much much cheaper and it can be kept between jobs. Thanks for agreeing. :)

Posted by: theobserver4 | July 20, 2009 12:54 PM

Seriously, who cares what Michael Steele has to say about anything? Oh stop the presses, a Republican is criticizing an Obama initiative, talk about newsworthy! It's not like this happens multiple times a day and the fact that it's about as predictable as a sunrise.

Here's an idea, wait until the Republicans actually propose an intelligent, constructive alternative that goes beyond superfical talking points. Now if that day ever comes, that will be news!

Posted by: cjpotter19 | July 20, 2009 12:53 PM

Of course. The GOP defends big business and rich CEOs. The health care establishment is making billions on the system just the way it is right now. They don't care about the uninsured, under insured, people on the edge of losing health insurance, and those who have experienced rescission. Michael Steele doesn't care either. That's why fewer people vote for the GOP than once did. People have learned whose side they are on.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | July 20, 2009 12:52 PM

A good friend had a cousin in England who had three strokes and then died while waiting to see a doctor. My friend had no reason to lie to me.
A cardiologist at a V.A. told me I was a candidate for a heart transplant in Dec.'97. The next day another doctor told me I was too old for a heart transplant. Maybe I am lucky and maybe I would have been too old anywhere else. Makes you wonder about gov. health care if you are old. I say no. It's is to take care of 'born on welfare demos'.

Posted by: 1uncle | July 20, 2009 12:51 PM

Why didn't the post point out that he has no idea what he's talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFH390hvKAI&feature=player_embedded

That's a pretty basic question in the legislation. He say's 'what's that?'

And, the post acts like he should be taken seriously. The bar is so low for Republicans.

Posted by: rat-raceparent | July 20, 2009 12:50 PM

We can easily name the misanthropes: Haley Barbour, Newt Gingrich, Mitch McConnell, Rush Limbaugh, to name a few. If any of these misfits had a thought, it would forever be an orphan.

As for Congress in general, their heads and hearts are so full of politics that they would not consider the practical things, like how will we pay for it (hand it off to future generations [same old argument]), supporting the most cost-effective system (health care benefactors wouldn't like that) and avoiding self-interest (never happen).

Posted by: hoovjim | July 20, 2009 12:49 PM

For heaven's sake, why do you persist in giving the time of day (much less your lead column) to the likes of M. Steele? He, along with the Republican crowd, is a total loser. The best service you could do is to ignore him and his, concentrating on those who count.

Posted by: nymec | July 20, 2009 12:49 PM

So Mike Steele has been taught a new bleat by his consultants. And they're sending out mean little memos.

Evidently "fried chicken and potato salad" didn't test well with the GOP base.

Posted by: dfc102 | July 20, 2009 12:49 PM

Steele and other like him are the problem. Time for Republicans and Dems to work together to get it done. Republicans should stop trying to score political points. There is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588

Posted by: carlyt | July 20, 2009 12:49 PM

TKite,
I agree with you except on this point:

"Healthcare insurance premiums are high because healthcare costs are high. Most $ from premiums go directly to doctors."


This is half true. The insurance companies are walking away with the lion share of these premiums. Not to mention that the same insurance companies make a killing off of the malpractice insurance they sell to the doctors. The insurance gets money coming, going, and staying no matter what.

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 20, 2009 12:48 PM

I thoroughly applaud Michael Steele's comments but wonder what took him so long. As one of the "uninsured poor", a single mother with minor children I do not want public health care. We have used public assistance in the past in emergency situations. That is what public assistance is for- emergency help. There is no such thing as entitlement; and I refuse to use other's wages for my wants or desires.My children and I have benefited from public assistance in the past and hope that others will in the future, but this is supposed to be temporary help in emergency situations such as broken bones, disease, accidents, or limted time health care not long term, lifetime care-that should be left to the private sector.
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Some of your statements suggest that you have never been a recipient of public health care assistance and are, rather, playing the role of a virtual recipient to support the common GOP thread that doing nothing will somehow solve problems.

You are clearly unaware that there is no such thing as "uncompensated medical care" and that those of us who have insurance are ALREADY using our wages to pay for the uninsured who overwhelm Americas emergency room for primary and avoidable crisis health care. They stick it to us through annual skyrocketing increases in deductibles, premiums and co-pays.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | July 20, 2009 12:48 PM

'Most $ from premiums go directly to doctors.'

That statement is a load of fertilizer, don't believe a word of it. The insurance companies are firmly in control of health care, and they're not about to give it up. Where does all that premium money really go - insurance carrier ceo compensation, that's where. One of the bigger carriers, not sure on the post's policies on identifying such, but its a billion dollar carrier, and they pay less than medical assistance, and routinely violate prompt payment laws, the fines are just business expenses to them.

If you want to bring down health care costs, 1st, curb the malpractice suits that drive up the malpractice rates, and 2nd, require the carriers to pay reasonably and on-time.

Posted by: reader011 | July 20, 2009 12:46 PM

So where's Steele's brilliant concepts for health reform? Perhaps because he hasn't a teeny-tiny, constructive idea to offer in his swelled head.

Of course we all realize that Republicans would like nothing better than to make sure there is never, ever going to be a health care plan, so their buddies at the nation's very profitable insurance companies will keep racking in the big bucks.

Posted by: JaneB08 | July 20, 2009 12:45 PM

Hey Barry... how many people leave the U.S. to get their healthcare in Canada or the U.K.?

Why don't you tell us that, ya dope.

Posted by: rg019571 | July 20, 2009 12:44 PM

Unless Steele can come up with a solution he needs to pipe down. Anything Obama comes up with will get a thumbs down from the Republicans, doesn't matter the substance. The GOP is the disloyal opposition and hardly worthy of the time it takes to respond to their lastest version of "just say no".

Posted by: merrylees | July 20, 2009 12:44 PM

We need to come out with some much starker and blunter TV advertising to counter the anti-health-care propaganda being so effectively spread by insurance and pharmaceutical companies and Republicans, acting in coordination and with the cooperation of our various TV entities who know which side of their bread is buttered by advertising revenue and campaign contributions.

We need an ad that makes the point that opponents of health care are KILLING AMERICANS by the THOUSANDS, every single day of every week. They are causing injuries to go untreated, causing us pain and suffering by the millions, all to save the rich a few pennies on their taxes and preserve the obscene profits of the insurance fatcats.

THEY ARE KILLING AMERICAN MEN, WOMEN and CHILDREN in numbers far greater than any wars we may fight, far greater numbers than fall to cigarettes or obesity, far greater numbers than we lose to automobile accidents or violent crime.

THEY ARE KILLING US FOR MONEY. We need to drive this point home with as much forcefulness as we can muster. It's the whole point.

Posted by: FergusonFoont | July 20, 2009 12:44 PM

mharwick,
why didn't you mention David Gratzer's hard right political beliefs? Why didn't you mention that this man is paid handsomely by the GOP for his speeches and writing against universal health care. Why didn't you mention Dr. David Gratzer's strong ties to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies?

The problem with your source mharwick is that Gratzer stand to add $100 of millions of dollars to his already multi-million dollar bottom line if the country enact his health care proposals and the middle-class, as usual, will be stuck paying for the bill.

Dr. Gratzer's ideas for letting the state handle health care for its citizens isn't a bad idea until he start talking about allowing the insurance companies set their own prices without any government regulation or oversight.

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 20, 2009 12:43 PM

Call me psychic, but how predictable are these scare tactics sponsored by those making a lot of money on health care the way it is? Yeah right, be afraid, be very afraid of health care.

Posted by: SarahBB | July 20, 2009 12:41 PM

The delayed midsummer budget report is a HUGE red flag !!

Posted by: bandcyuk | July 20, 2009 12:31 PM
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More Republican talking points from people who don't know what they're talking about.

Bush delayed his first one in 2001 and Clinton delayed his first one in 1993.

Transitional delays.

Look it up.


Posted by: YouryellowribbonmagnetwontgetyouintoHeavenanymore | July 20, 2009 12:40 PM

"They want to get a bill done in the next two weeks. This reckless approach is an ill-conceived attempt to push through an experiment and all of us should be scared to death," Steele said.
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Translation:

"Run for your lives, the sky is falling!!!"

Conservatives MUST come up with something other than fear to move their agenda. That dog doesn't hunt anymore.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | July 20, 2009 12:40 PM

The Healthcare system is broken and it must be fixed.
The root cause is
1)Malpractice lawsuits
2)Uninsured don't/can't pay HC bills
3)Uninsured skip preventative care (high cost)
4)"CYA" Medicine - due to MP
5)High RX costs due to PharmaMarketing direct to consumers
6)great variation in healthcare provider process
7)Those with good insurance don't care about costs cause they don't see it.

Healthcare insurance premiums are high because healthcare costs are high. Most $ from premiums go directly to doctors.

Taking care of Malpractice issues would drop MP insurance cost, allow doctors to drop prices and stay in business. HC Insurance would be priced along with HC cost. More could afford HC insurance and get the right care at the right time.

The government should be involved but a wholesale take over and blank check for all is not the solution.

TK

Posted by: TKite | July 20, 2009 12:37 PM

The only thing you need to know about the President's plan for healthcare is that neither he nor members of Congress will be covered by the plan they think is so good for the rest of us. The costs and limitations of Nationalized healthcare will be borne exclusively by the average citizen/taxpayer. Congress and Mr. Obama will still enjoy the topflight care they always have. Nationalized healthcare is only for we pesky constituents.

BTW, from where do Mr. Obama and Congressional Democrats derive the Constitutional authority to confiscate taxpayer money and make compulsory a substandard healthcare system on the free people of the United States anyway? It's a rhetorical question since we all know the answer is they have no such authority.

Bottom line, you buy your own homeowners insurance, auto insurance, renters insurace, etc. In those industries, free markets work. Why doesn't the free market work for healthcare? Again a rhetorical question. The answer is, because it is not really a free market. The government has been in the business of Medicaid and Medicare since 1965 and distorts the free market, hence the current "crisis."

And yet the neo-Statist Barack Obama and his lackeys in Congress are undeterred. A mountain of evidence that shows liberal policies are an abject failure wherever they are implemented, and yet they march on toward more government control and less personal freedom.

"The tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots." Thomas Jefferson.

Posted by: mongoose1 | July 20, 2009 12:37 PM

Why not go out and get a quote from that dingbat Sarah Palin?

You haven't written anything about her for damned near a week now.

Posted by: YouryellowribbonmagnetwontgetyouintoHeavenanymore | July 20, 2009 12:36 PM

Everyone wants healthcare reform but no one really seems to know what is in the bill and what people are going to get out of it. People want reduced costs and someone else to pay for healthcare. Do you really think that over time only the wealthy are going to fund healthcare for America?

It takes weeks to get into one's regular doctor now. Add more patients into the system and the wait will increase. How about the government funding medical education to increase the number of doctors, physician's assistants and nurses, and in return they serve in public clinics for a number of years to repay their government funded eduation. Patients at public clinics would be those not covered by a healthcare policy or at low income levels. Make the offer to current doctors to repay their education expenses with the same deal to jump start the program.

Americans also have a personal responsiblity to avoid bad habits which puts their health in jeopardy.

Posted by: snowflower | July 20, 2009 12:33 PM

As if steele has any credibility.....keep whisteling in the graveyard loser. No one is listening to you and your party of NO.

Posted by: dem4life1 | July 20, 2009 12:33 PM

The delayed midsummer budget report is a HUGE red flag !!

The WH knows that report is going to show the deficit will be much greater than expected. They don't want it to scuttle the Health care plan and want to push it all through before the bad numbers get out to the public. Very bad strategy. The public will be outraged if that happens.

The electeds would be totally irresponsible if they approve any spending bills before that report is made public.

Everyone needs to speak up now !!

Posted by: bandcyuk | July 20, 2009 12:31 PM

I thoroughly applaud Michael Steele's comments but wonder what took him so long. As one of the "uninsured poor", a single mother with minor children I do not want public health care. We have used public assistance in the past in emergency situations. That is what public assistance is for- emergency help. There is no such thing as entitlement; and I refuse to use other's wages for my wants or desires.My children and I have benefited from public assistance in the past and hope that others will in the future, but this is supposed to be temporary help in emergency situations such as broken bones, disease, accidents, or limted time health care not long term, lifetime care-that should be left to the private sector.

Posted by: cmcapcathletic | July 20, 2009 12:31 PM

The repuke solution to all our problems, and there are many, is more tax cuts for the wealthy and another unnecessary war.

They are sickening and will never again get my vote.

Posted by: rcubedkc | July 20, 2009 12:31 PM

This country is not going to recover, until unemployment reaches at least 25-30%, and people will work for anything, at any job they can get. We could resolve the entire energy problem by making cars largely unattainable, thus forcing people to live in the streets next to where they hope to get jobs. Providing low cost health care will just prolong the agony, and we should go to a system where people have to pay for everything out of pocket, cash money, at the time of service, with no pesky "insurance" to artificially prop up the losers who aren't responsible enough to save up for a rainy day.

Posted by: daweeni | July 20, 2009 12:31 PM

"Neither Obama, nor the Dems are asking for a single payer health plan covered by the govt. In fact both have explicitly called it a non-starter."

A government-run plan will kill the private insurance industry. I have no love for health insurers, but eliminating them means health providers will all work for the government.


And patients will all be on something like Medicaid or Medicare.

And what happens when you have a procedure that the government won't pay for?

You're stuck with the bill!!!


Posted by: Jules5 | July 20, 2009 12:30 PM

Quick Rahm, take off your ballet slippers and wrtie something for Barry's teleprompter! Somebody said something true about the bosses healthcare plan!

Posted by: hill_marty | July 20, 2009 12:30 PM

I like Mr. Steele but I don't think the ideas he is promulgating are his own. The GOP had a tremendous opportunity to address the health care and economic issues but squandered it on an unnecessary war and pursuing a social agenda that alienated the majority of the country.

Why should we believe now that the GOP has mended their ways?? I doubt they have and all this high volume negativity aimed at the President isn't helping them! Talk about being afraid just listen to them! If you listen to these right-wingers you too will begin to believe the sky is falling

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 20, 2009 12:30 PM


"..growing number of critics in the GOP.."..?!?!

Where have you clowns at the Post been since November?

In case you haven't noticed, the GOP has made a cottage industry out of hoping against hope President Obama fails at every turn.

Posted by: YouryellowribbonmagnetwontgetyouintoHeavenanymore | July 20, 2009 12:29 PM

Update: Micheal Steele, a Republican National Committee Leader whose powers have previously been taken away from him by his fellow Republicans, most of whom are white, blasts Obama and urges him to slow down so the Republican Party, always on the look out for the common man, can help Obama fail and kill health care reform.

As part of the usual suspects from the Ministry of Propaganda, Boehner, takes a break from getting a tan, and in a brilliant stroke of genius calls it Hilary-care except that the economy is much worse now than it was in 1993.

The Boehner stroke of brillance is that Boehner totally leaves out that fact that Boehner was a so-called 'leader' of the Republican Party during the Dark Side formerly referred to as the administration of George W. Bush and Richard Cheney while it was busily destroying the economy and all other aspects of government as we formerly knew it.

Posted by: Patriot3 | July 20, 2009 12:29 PM

Republicans have not a speck of respectability left on this issue. None. Republicans are vagrant. Their party is led by a sycophant egotist Rush Limbaugh, who gets his paycheck to disrespect "anyone but white men". Why is anyone listening to the Limbaugh mouthpiece Michael Steele???

Posted by: swatkins1 | July 20, 2009 12:28 PM

Why does the Post even cover what he said? Because the RNC says he should be covered? What are his qualifications other than that Dick Cheney thought he was a photogenic minority that would camouflage Republican disdain for people of color? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/07/AR2006040701905.html (He did the same thing with Sarah Palin for women and see how that turned out!) Please choose who you cover and limit your shrinking space to People Who Know Something.

Posted by: achamblee | July 20, 2009 12:28 PM

Steele, you are Maryland's great embarrassment, and it is a blessing to all of us that you are the representation of Republicans in the country.

Posted by: DCPeterDC | July 20, 2009 12:28 PM

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Broken finger w/ Insurance: $50.00 copay. Person with insurance pays for it.

Broken finger wo/Insurance: $3,350.16
The American people pay for it.

I have a copy of my bill if anyone cares to see it.

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Posted by: A-Voter | July 20, 2009 12:26 PM

A Canadian Doctor Describes How Socialized Medicine Doesn't Work
July 26, 2007

By David Gratzer

I was once a believer in socialized medicine. As a Canadian, I had soaked up the belief that government–run health care was truly compassionate. What I knew about American health care was unappealing: high expenses and lots of uninsured people.

My health care prejudices crumbled on the way to a medical school class. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute.

Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care.

I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic—with a three–year wait list; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks.

Government researchers now note that more than 1.5 million Ontarians (or 12% of that province's population) can't find family physicians. Health officials in one Nova Scotia community actually resorted to a lottery to determine who'd get a doctor's appointment.

These problems are not unique to Canada—they characterize all government–run health care systems.

Consider the recent British controversy over a cancer patient who tried to get an appointment with a specialist, only to have it canceled—48 times. More than 1 million Britons must wait for some type of care, with 200,000 in line for longer than six months. In France, the supply of doctors is so limited that during an August 2003 heat wave—when many doctors were on vacation and hospitals were stretched beyond capacity—15,000 elderly citizens died. Across Europe, state–of–the–art drugs aren't available. And so on.

Single–payer systems—confronting dirty hospitals, long waiting lists and substandard treatment—are starting to crack, however. Canadian newspapers are filled with stories of people frustrated by long delays for care. Many Canadians, determined to get the care they need, have begun looking not to lotteries—but to markets.

Posted by: mharwick | July 20, 2009 12:25 PM

I like the initial quote about Steele "joining the growing number of critics in the GOP ".

As if it isn't 100% of the republicans, who have always been lock-step against any reform. This has nothing to do with "growing" -- it's the same old stuff.

Why can't Bacon (or any WaPo "journalist") just for once put things into perspective and point out that it is the Republican party (and not some centrist dems) who are primarily and overwhelmingly responsible for blocking reform (which the people overwhelmingly desire).

Posted by: dougd1 | July 20, 2009 12:22 PM

Surprise Surprise Surprise !!!! The GOP disagrees with the President's plans! So what!! Lets hear the GOP's ideas but then again we already know.. Tax cuts for the top 2%...Drill Baby Drill, Guns, no abortions, and no gay marriages. Got it!

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | July 20, 2009 12:20 PM

If we can spend a trillion dollars on star wars defense systems to shoot down when lucky the occasional drone missile. We can spend a trillion on health care for all Americans. If we had taken the time to look into the invasion of Iraq as thoroughly as health care. we would have saved enough tax payer money to have health care for all Americans. If we closed all the loop holes that the wealthy and the corporations use to avoid paying there fair share, we could afford health care for all Americans.

Posted by: Woodstocknative | July 20, 2009 12:19 PM

Hey, maybe Steele can finally get some help for his mental disorders.

Posted by: mammyyel | July 20, 2009 12:19 PM

Maybe employees of the Post are getting the feeling they will be screwed in this reform legislation?

Posted by: oracle2world | July 20, 2009 12:18 PM

And this is NEWS? Give me a break.

Posted by: aevans11 | July 20, 2009 12:18 PM

love the screaming wapo headline.... too bad michael steele doesn't have a clue what he's talking about:

Asked whether he supports an individual mandate ... Steele was completely ignorant. “An individual requirement? What do you mean?” Steele could only respond that there are “differing opinions” on this.

Posted by: mycomment | July 20, 2009 12:13 PM

Health care is so expensive, because the Gov't is involved. The prices of medical procedures that are in the "free market" (Lasik, cosmetic surgery) are continuously DECLINING. Why is that???
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Because you are confusing procedures that are not covered by a health-plan with those that are. Advances in technology enable making this optional process available to more people, thereby increasing profit by volume sales.

Private insurance companies have raised the prices of insuring employees in small business at the rate of some 10 to 15% each year for the last 5 or 6 years.

Why is that?

Also, why is it that you even ask this question? Neither Obama, nor the Dems are asking for a single payer health plan covered by the govt. In fact both have explicitly called it a non-starter.

Could it be that your brain has been defecated into by RusHannity so much that you do not understand what the issues with the health plan proposal are?

The reform was meant to extend coverage to those who cannot afford to buy it because they are unemployed, by getting them covered under a govt. option.

Complain about funding that, and you will have a point.


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Obama's national health care scam is not "reform" - just like Stalin killing the Kulaks was not agriculture "reform."

Posted by: pgr88 | July 20, 2009 12:01 PM
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Indeed. The putrid rot formed by the feces RusHannity left in your skull is the only way you could make that association.
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Posted by: HumanSimpleton | July 20, 2009 12:09 PM

Instead of bad-mouthing the President who, for the 1st time in 15 years, is trying to get healthcare reform going, Steele should either present a realistic alternative to the Republican supported, for-profit healthcare OR Be Quiet! It's easy to take pot shots at an administration that's trying to get something done and make Congress earn their salaries for a change, than to continually bash the admin with no alternatives. Michael Steele needs to stay in the background unless he comes up with a plan on healthcare that will work for EVERYONE and not just wealthy Republicans.

Posted by: cricket35 | July 20, 2009 12:07 PM

Wow! Someone from the RNC/GOP doesn't agree with Obama? What a shocker!

Posted by: alysheba_3 | July 20, 2009 12:04 PM

Posted by: HumanSimpleton | July 20, 2009 12:02 PM

Health care is so expensive, because the Gov't is involved. The prices of medical procedures that are in the "free market" (Lasik, cosmetic surgery) are continuously DECLINING. Why is that???

Obama's national health care scam is not "reform" - just like Stalin killing the Kulaks was not agriculture "reform."

Posted by: pgr88 | July 20, 2009 12:01 PM

Castellanos agrees with Dick Cheney that Rush Limpnuts would be the best President ever.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200905110039

Sort of blows his credibility out of the water, dont'cha think?

Posted by: swatkins1 | July 20, 2009 12:00 PM

PUBLICLY, REPUBLICANS CALL MR. MICHAEL STEELE "THE LINK" TO Minority Voters.

Privately, Rush Limbaugh snicker that Mike is "The Missing Link" to....God-only-knows-what.

Personally, I thought Rush, O'Reiley and Hannity were being mischievous and unkind to Mr. Steele...that is, until I listened to Mr. Steele's LATEST PLAN ON HOW TO CONVERT BLACK AMERICANS TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. His plan was

"Common Y'all. I've got Fried Chicken and cold potato."

Now...who or what could beat such a plan?

Posted by: St_Satan | July 20, 2009 11:57 AM

Steele is using the term "experiment" as party leaders were advised to do in a widely-distributed memo written by veteran Republican consultant Alex Castellanos, a foot soldier of Rush Limpnuts.

Posted by: swatkins1 | July 20, 2009 11:55 AM

It is very obvious, the GOP, conservatives, do not want lower income citizens to have health care. They want to keep them in their place. They are not stupid enought, to not figure out, if you improve health care; people can work harder, learn more, care about themselves, and contribute more to the country and the economy. Believe me, that is not what they want, they want to keep the lower/lower middle class in it's place. They are money grubbing, evil, un human selfesh ignorant animals.

Posted by: linda_521 | July 20, 2009 11:55 AM

I care what Steele think because, uh ur uhm oh yea, he's the GOP spokes muddle. They had their chance for how many years...semms like a thousand. they cared for Americans less than a great corporation and allowed them to steal us blind. Neither party is uncorrupted but the GOP is off the charts at this point and needs serious retooling, after a few years of power the democrates will need it too. such is the nature of things.

Posted by: jpenergy | July 20, 2009 11:50 AM

The Dems should happily agree to the RNC suggestions about curbing malpractice suits and supporting efforts to reduce obesity though. These proposals would have a very small impact but make good fodder for bipartisanship.

Posted by: theamazingjex | July 20, 2009 11:49 AM

Psst...hey, American's here's a little secret, the republicans and there insurance friends don't want a health care overhaul. They want things just the way they are. And what the hell do the republicans know about the economy anyway? If this bill is not passed by August recess, it will never pass. We will lose, and the Insurance Companies, with the help of there friends all republicans and a few spineless democrats will win. It's that simple.

Posted by: kubrickstan | July 20, 2009 11:48 AM

Rep. Boner says "but the economy is much worse."

No kidding Boner, thanks to cheney/bush and you lap dogs in congress who let cheney/bush tank the economy by spending and borrowing.

Why is it republicans do not want Americans to have affordable health care but expect Americans to pay for their gold plated plan.

Will a republican introduce a bill eliminating free health care for members of congress and their staff?

Who has the testicular fortitude to do it???

Posted by: knjincvc | July 20, 2009 11:47 AM

"Experiment" is a horrible talking point. It allows a clear parallel to FDR. FDR was faced with a broken system and tried anything and everything. Obama can say he's following FDR's example on healthcare. Since everyone but Michael Steele thinks healthcare is broken, that's the best argument Obama could hope to make.

Posted by: theamazingjex | July 20, 2009 11:47 AM

Why should anyone listen to you Mr. Steele? Why should anyone listen to the party that put us in these situations? If you and your party hadn't noticed, your comments are right in line with the very same types of comments and approaches to most issues that resulted in your being voted out of most of the offices you held in America as it is. Can you say out of step with the rest of us.

Posted by: jett2054 | July 20, 2009 11:45 AM

Has "The Link" accomplished last week's mission of uniting the Republicans and the NAACP? Or has the Trash Can Man dropped that project and taken up trash-talking on a subject he cannot constructively contribute to?

Posted by: mintchocolatechip | July 20, 2009 11:44 AM

Against social security, against Medicare, against civil rights- the ReThugs have been on the wrong side of social progress for decades. Chairman Steele is only going to extend the losing streak.

Posted by: hairguy01 | July 20, 2009 11:41 AM

Michael who? Did he clear this with party chairman limbaugh? Is it the official rpeublicon policy that they wnat people to wait even longer before we have a reasonable health care system? Is it official republicon party policy that people should die, children should not be able to see the doctor, so that lobyists can further errode and republicons can water down sensible reform? It makes sense that chariman rush would lay this out as the agenda for his apparatchiks to follow since the stated overarching goal of the republicon party is for America to fail.

Posted by: John1263 | July 20, 2009 11:38 AM

Right Steele; go on and bash health care refore without offering anything in the way of alternative proposals.

That's exactly what we've come to expect from the party of "NO", Nothing! Just a bunch of whining LOSERS!

Posted by: Heerman532 | July 20, 2009 11:36 AM

Steele was a loser when he was in office in MD. Oh yeah, he is Republican after all.

Posted by: Classic60 | July 20, 2009 11:36 AM

Who, in their RIGHT MIND, would dare to say that he can win minority voters with "fried chicken and potato salad"?
Oops - I meant POTATOE salad.

Posted by: Tomcat3 | July 20, 2009 11:34 AM

Mr. Steele and the rest of you who brought our country to its knees, If health reform “will slow economy, increase the deficit…”, so be it. We placed the person who will make it happen in office, please don’t make matters worse as it appears as if none of you got it, that People (not country) come(s) first.

Posted by: Shanan1 | July 20, 2009 11:33 AM

I don't mind if they slow it down to just after the August recess, but it has to get passed immediately after. It also has to have a public option and not these half-a$$ solutions presented with the Republicans. That garbage is not reform....those are nothing more than pathetic band-aids for a gaping wound.

Obama was elected with the understanding that he'd over haul the system so if the dead-end 20% doesn't like it then they can get out. America love it or leave it. I stuck around through the Bush years so now it's time to get yours. We all know how many people are vested in our current rip off system so the louder they bleet the more determined it should make Obama and Congress to get this done.

Posted by: theobserver4 | July 20, 2009 11:32 AM

We may disagree with Michael Steele's petty unqualified remarks on President Obama's push to reform our feeble current healthcare system.

However, we should treat him with some respect, and refrain from calling him names like "Uncle Tom", traitor, backstabbing turncoat, shameless opportunist, insurance corporation shill, and "mangy weasel".

That type of name-calling has no place on this blog.

Posted by: free-donny | July 20, 2009 11:28 AM

Steele is a complete idiot, but I guess that makes him the perfect Republican spokesperson. Of course what the Prsident is proposing is "change" and an "experiment", because what we have now in the way of health insurance and a health care system is a mess and it needs to be changed. One of the reasons it is a mess is because we didn't fix it in the early 90's. The Clintons dropped the ball and were too inexperienced , too much control freaks to make happen what they propsosed. Obama has learned from that experience and is far more subtle in his approach. The Republicans haven't come forward with any workable ideas to improve the mess we have, only more scare tactics and code words. "Socialized medicine", "Government run health care", "Rationed health care" What Crap !
How about a new idea , Republicans , some thing other than "NO"?
Of course this is an "experiment" When what you have isn't working or has failed, you HAVE to experiment, try something new.Most of these Republicans are barely a half step to the left of the Flat Earth Society.

Posted by: jmsbh | July 20, 2009 11:26 AM

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Steel is nothing more than a token tool for the Republicans.

No one cares what he thinks, not even the Republicans.

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Posted by: A-Voter | July 20, 2009 11:25 AM

Were it not for Sarah Palin, Mikey Steele would redefine the word lightweight.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | July 20, 2009 11:25 AM

Maybe if some of these old money and corporate welfare Republicans lost their healthcare, they might understand the crisis a bit better.

Posted by: kflet3 | July 20, 2009 11:23 AM

"Steele Rips Health Reform Push"

The closer America comes to rooting out arrogant, selfish and greedy capitalist commodity consumption, the louder and more whiney the far right becomes. Lord have mercy. There's got to be a better way than the repubitards!!!

Posted by: swatkins1 | July 20, 2009 11:16 AM

When the GOP, especially Michael "waterboy" Steele tell Obama to slow down, Obama should speed up, with all deliberate speed...

Posted by: demtse | July 20, 2009 11:13 AM

Of course the Republicans oppose health care reform. After all Medical Donors and lobbists have already spent $340,000.oo buying Republican Politicians. And as a cost of doing business as usual, these costs will be passed on to consumers. That's you and me.

Posted by: laurelphoto | July 20, 2009 11:13 AM

What Good is Health Care Reform When a Fed-Enabled "Program" Violates the Civil and Human Rights of the Unjustly "Targeted"?

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FEMA, Secret Service, FBI, the U.S. military and intel agencies are among the federal enablers of volunteer community policing, anti-terrorism and town watch organizations transmogrified by Bush-Cheney into fronts for a nationwide, civilian Gestapo-like army.

This grassroots-based extrajudicial targeting and punishment "torture matrix" uses covertly implanted GPS tracking devices to stalk, harass, vandalize and terrorize unjustly "targeted" Americans and their families.

When "targets" travel, the GPS system alerts local units of this American Gestapo, and the harassment follows. Local police cooperation denies these targeted Americans their Constitutional right of equal protection under the law.

Victims charge that members of this civilian Gestapo have infiltrated the health care system, calling into question the quality of the services they receive when they need hospital or emergency care.

Silent, injury- and illness-inducing microwave and laser radiation "directed energy weapons" are being used to torture, and to degrade the lives of targeted citizens -- what could be described as a quiet, ideologically-motivated genocide.

And companion array of “programs of personal financial destruction — using the IRS as a political weapon — decimates the finances of “target” families. Their telecommunications and U.S. mail appear to be subject to warrantless surveillance, interception and tampering — including the alteration of financial accounts and credit card and utility billing statements.

This cruel bypass of the American judicial system makes a mockery of the rule of law -- and political "dissidents," "whistle-blowers" and those considered to be social "deviates" are among its prime targets.

Civil rights advocates: Wake up and smell the police state that has co-opted POTUS and a deluded Congress into becoming enablers of vigilante injustice and domestic torture.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

See "GESTAPO USA" at http://NowPublic.com/scrivener ("stream" or "stories" list).

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 20, 2009 11:10 AM

What Republican Steal realy meens is that it is not a Republican idea so they will fight it to the best of their corrupt ability. A bad idea, it will limit the obscene illegal profits of Republicans big donors.

Posted by: laurelphoto | July 20, 2009 11:09 AM

When the GOP, especially Michael "waterboy" Steele tell Obama to slow down, Obama should speed up, with all deliberate speed...

Posted by: demtse | July 20, 2009 10:59 AM

Blah, blah, blah...............same tired rhetoric. Why is this man allowed to speak? Oh, yeah the 1st admendment. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Posted by: jckdoors | July 20, 2009 10:57 AM

Nice to see how the 'iberal media' is working so hard for the insurance companies and the republican party to kill health care reform.

Good job, Media Wh*res!

and quoting Michael Steele about anything -- brilliant. The man is an idiot.

Posted by: drindl | July 20, 2009 10:57 AM

But don';t ask him a question about health care. "II don't do policy..."

Steele is such an idiot.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: parkerfl1 | July 20, 2009 10:56 AM

So far, half the stimulus bill is going to tax cuts demanded by the Republican minority -- remember??? The tax cuts in the stimulus bill haven't worked, and now the Republicans are whining for more. Freedom is not free, but the Republicans don't want to pay their share.

Posted by: Bobby06 | July 20, 2009 10:54 AM

I have to say, as one who supports wholesale health care reform, that the ideas the Michael Steele made in the third to last paragraph are worth including. But, the BIGGEST expenditure is the health care costs of the uninsured. I remember the days when health care insurance was simply hospitalization insurance. In many cases it covered most if not all hospital expenses and you paid small fees to your private Doctor. Now what has happened is that everything is covered by insurance and their objective is to make money and NOT to take care of the patients expenses. Twenty percent of the Doctors expenses are billing and insurance. Reduce or eliminate that 20% and you have a 20% savings. Quite frankly the single payer system appeals to me because you eliminate the expenses of billing and insurance by the Doctor and paying for those who are uninsured. If you get rid of those two expenses then you will reduce the cost of health care.
Health Care should NOT be a money making venture because it is a right of everyone in this country.

Posted by: w2bsa | July 20, 2009 10:43 AM

So far, all the stimulus money has gone to wasteful projects to reward Obama's friends and supporters, as reported in the Wall Street Journal.

It is no wonder that people now realize that Obama and his pack of Chicago cronies will also make a mess of health care and cash in at the same time.

Obama is nothing but a two-bit, corrupt Chicago politician. Liberals should be ashamed for supporting him and conservatives should be ashamed for not denouncing him strongly enough—and all of us should be very worried about how our nation is being destroyed by these slick, self-serving Chicago machine politicians.

Just look at what Obama and his Democratic cronies did to Illinois—eleven billion dollar deficit, more than three billion more to be borrowed next year, and more than three billion in additional unpaid bills. They made a mess of the state, which has long been for sale, and now these same Chicago Democrats are making a mess of the entire nation.

Posted by: Jerzy | July 20, 2009 10:37 AM

The Statist never slows down and thinks about the long term effects of policy beyond his own needs. Just as the Statist FDR put Social Security in place and had no plan for the future, Obama too has no idea of the long term effects on this economy. Could it be because he has no experience balancing a budget or running a profitable company? Or is it because he has no need other than to create a society in which we all rely on the government for sustenance.

Posted by: camaross340 | July 20, 2009 10:35 AM

Was this cleared by Ru$h ?

Posted by: whocares666 | July 20, 2009 10:33 AM

I guess what do expect from a party out of power that desperately wants to be back in power. If you don't have any constructive ideas for health care reform (which the GOP doesn't) try to tear down the other guy's ideas.

The guns, gays, and God schtick isn't working for the GOP anymore so let's revert back to red baiting and yell "socialism, socialism, socialism."

The GOP wants to turn over our health care system to caring hands of Wall St. (the same crowd did that did such a wonderfull job on our financial system incidently). We'll just ignore the minor detail of the $1 trillion bailout last fall.

Makes perfect sense then to entrust our health care system to Wall St. and "free markets", right? That's what the GOP would have us believe.

Posted by: montana123 | July 20, 2009 10:28 AM

The Repos say that the President's health plan will "make health care worse for the millions who already have insurance."
Do they have any PROOF of that?
The only evidence is that if we don't get it, more people will be unprotected.

Posted by: analyst72 | July 20, 2009 10:24 AM

It comes as no surprise to me, as is typical of a republican specimen, this man is a total idiot. I am wondering if he can hear his own words. Does he take any hallucinogenic or another banned substance at the start of each day?

Posted by: kevin1231 | July 20, 2009 10:24 AM

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