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Health-Care Deadline a Double-Edged Sword for Obama

By Ben Pershing
Speaking in the Rose Garden Tuesday, President Obama demanded "action over inaction" on health-care reform. But does that action have to happen by Aug. 7?

As Obama himself has said, without deadlines, "nothing gets done in this town." Absent the urgency of a defined timeframe, the House and Senate could well have punted on health care by now. But at the same time, the White House's insistence on a deadline has helped fuel the current, widespread storyline that the reform effort is struggling. Is it true that health care reform is further along on the Hill than it has been in decades? Yes, but that's not the barometer the administration has established for itself. Because Obama has imposed a deadline and stuck to it publicly, it will look like a setback for him if and when Congress fails to meet it. Obama holds a press conference tonight at 8 p.m. ET, and both foes and allies will be watching to see if he starts laying the groundwork for an extension of the deadline.

That debate over timing arises as yet another day dawns dominated by Democratic divisions on health care. The Senate Finance Committee, at least, believes it can finish a bill before Obama's deadline. In the House, Henry Waxman struck a deal Tuesday with the Blue Dogs on giving an outside panel the authority to cut government health-care costs, though Politico calls the agreement "a pint-sized breakthrough in an ocean of concern" and "a concession to one subgroup ... that's likely to inflame others." The New York Times goes big-picture, saying Obama is at a "pivotal moment," as his handling of health care "over the next several weeks could shape the rest of his presidency, shedding light on his political strength, his relationship with both parties in Congress and his appetite to fight for his own agenda." Is that all?

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The President is right; this is not the time to delay. The delay tactic is really the destroy tactic. To delay is to kill the Health Care Reform, period. The GOP does not have an alternative Health Care Reform plan but to stay with the status quo. They want to continue the environment that increases the profits of the Insurance and Drug Companies while decreasing the quality and availability of Health Care for everyone. If we delay we will spend another 50 years debating and evading the final out come of Health Care Reform.
Now is the time to capture the opportunity of finally winning the fight. We must strike the knockout blow now and finally win.
I am for taxing everyone if we need to pay for health care for everyone. We all should share the burden. I am my brother’s keeper and I want to see my neighbor do well. I am willing to pay more in taxes for health care for everyone. In the end I believe we will all save more money in our ability to obtain more competitive health care plans that will lower our out of pocket costs for health care.

Posted by: kg4thepeople | July 22, 2009 6:38 PM

THIS IS IT!

The healthcare reform bill released by the House Of Representatives is an excellent bill as I understand it. It's a bill with a strong, robust, government-run public option, and an intelligent, reasonable initial funding plan to cover almost all of the American people. It is carefully written, and thoughtfully constructed, informed, prudent and wise. This bill will save trillions of dollars, and millions of your lives. It is also now supported by the AMA.

This is the type of bill that all Americans can feel good about. And this is the type of bill that has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of healthcare for all Americans. Rich, middle class and poor a like. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and all other party affiliations. This bill has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of life of every American.

The house healthcare bill should be viewed as the minimum GOLD STANDARD by which all other proposed healthcare legislation should be judged. All supporters of true high quality healthcare reform should now place all your support behind this healthcare reform bill released by the United States House Of Representatives, as the minimum Gold standard for healthcare reform in America.

You should all now support this bill with all your might, and all of your unrelenting tenacity. This healthcare bill is a VERY, VERY GOOD! bill for all of the American people. Fight tooth, and nail for every bit of this bill if you have too. Be aggressive, creative, and relentless for this bill.

From this time forward, go BIGGER and DEEPER with the American people every day until passage of healthcare reform with a robust, government-run public option.

FIGHT!! like your life and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. BECAUSE IT DOES!

SPREAD THE WORD

Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&feature=player_embedded)

God Bless You

Jack Smith — Working Class

Posted by: JackSmith1 | July 22, 2009 2:20 PM

Uninformed people who did not use financial reporting sources like "Moodys", for example, were trusting in a man, Bernie Madoff, who repeatedly told them how good his investment decisions would be for their investment monies are exactly like Obsama fanatics who believe in him.

Posted by: sperrico | July 22, 2009 11:51 AM
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You have that backwards, because Obama actually shows proof that his plans will help reduce costs, while it is the republicans who simply say "trust us" as their entire argument. So far the republicans have shown NO PROOF of any of their rhetoric.

It seems like you have blindly fallen for the exact situation that you just described.

Posted by: Independent4tw | July 22, 2009 __________________________________________-you? Obsama uses his ability to sell to "the rubes" just like a carny. By the way, I've read the first 100 pages of the House bill on Health care Reform. How about you?

Posted by: sperrico | July 22, 2009 12:09 PM
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So you are not arguing the fact that the republicans have trouble supplying facts with their rhetoric?

Posted by: Independent4tw | July 22, 2009 12:18 PM


Uninformed people who did not use financial reporting sources like "Moodys", for example, were trusting in a man, Bernie Madoff, who repeatedly told them how good his investment decisions would be for their investment monies are exactly like Obsama fanatics who believe in him.

Posted by: sperrico | July 22, 2009 11:51 AM
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You have that backwards, because Obama actually shows proof that his plans will help reduce costs, while it is the republicans who simply say "trust us" as their entire argument. So far the republicans have shown NO PROOF of any of their rhetoric.

It seems like you have blindly fallen for the exact situation that you just described.

Posted by: Independent4tw | July 22, 2009 __________________________________________-you? Obsama uses his ability to sell to "the rubes" just like a carny. By the way, I've read the first 100 pages of the House bill on Health care Reform. How about you?

Posted by: sperrico | July 22, 2009 12:09 PM

Uninformed people who did not use financial reporting sources like "Moodys", for example, were trusting in a man, Bernie Madoff, who repeatedly told them how good his investment decisions would be for their investment monies are exactly like Obsama fanatics who believe in him.

Posted by: sperrico | July 22, 2009 11:51 AM
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You have that backwards, because Obama actually shows proof that his plans will help reduce costs, while it is the republicans who simply say "trust us" as their entire argument. So far the republicans have shown NO PROOF of any of their rhetoric.

It seems like you have blindly fallen for the exact situation that you just described.

Posted by: Independent4tw | July 22, 2009 11:57 AM

Uninformed people who did not use financial reporting sources like "Moodys", for example, were trusting in a man, Bernie Madoff, who repeatedly told them how good his investment decisions would be for their investment monies are exactly like Obsama fanatics who believe in him.

Posted by: sperrico | July 22, 2009 11:51 AM

A goose egg on health care will break the Democratic base. People such as Bill Kristol and Jim "Waterloo" DeMint(ed) understand that.

I hope the Blue Dogs eventually wise up.

Posted by: mypitts2 | July 22, 2009 11:12 AM

We democrats who got these democrats voted into office are frustrated! I want health care reform NOW! Not tomorrow, not next week or after their GD vacation. The GOP could give a crap about the budget we saw that the last eight years it's about politics and the money to get elected plain and simple. What, does everyone have to lose there jobs, businesses, and access to health care (health insurance) before all Americans get it?

Posted by: sondysue819 | July 22, 2009 10:54 AM
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Yes. Americans have to be all but dead before they realize that they were tricked by lobbyists and republicans.

Posted by: Independent4tw | July 22, 2009 11:00 AM

We democrats who got these democrats voted into office are frustrated! I want health care reform NOW! Not tomorrow, not next week or after their GD vacation. The GOP could give a crap about the budget we saw that the last eight years it's about politics and the money to get elected plain and simple. What, does everyone have to lose there jobs, businesses, and access to health care (health insurance) before all Americans get it?

Posted by: sondysue819 | July 22, 2009 10:54 AM

WHAT GOOD IS HEALTH CARE REFORM WHEN A FED-ENABLED 'PROGRAM' VIOLATES THE CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS OF THE UNJUSTLY 'TARGETED'?
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FEMA, Secret Service, FBI, the U.S. military and intel agencies are among the federal enablers of volunteer community policing, anti-terrorism and town watch organizations transmogrified by Bush-Cheney into fronts for a nationwide, civilian Gestapo-like army.

This grassroots-based extrajudicial targeting and punishment "torture matrix" uses covertly implanted GPS tracking devices to stalk, harass, vandalize and terrorize unjustly "targeted" Americans and their families.

When "targets" travel, the GPS system alerts vigilantes affiliated with local units of this American Gestapo, and the harassment follows. Local police cooperation denies these targeted Americans their Constitutional right of equal protection under the law.

Silent, injury- and illness-inducing microwave and laser radiation "directed energy weapons" are being used to torture, and to degrade the lives of targeted citizens -- what could be described as a quiet, ideologically-motivated genocide.

This weaponization of the electromagnetic spectrum is every bit as socially significant as the invention of gunpowder -- but the mainstream media has yet to report in detail on the ramifications.

Victims charge that members of this civilian Gestapo have infiltrated the health care system, calling into question the quality of the services they receive when they need hospital or emergency care.

And companion array of “programs of personal financial destruction — using the IRS as a political weapon — sabotages the finances of “target” families. Their telecommunications and U.S. mail appear to be subject to warrantless surveillance, interception and tampering — including the alteration of financial accounts and credit card and utility billing statements.

This systematic bypass of the American judicial system makes a mockery of the rule of law -- and political "dissidents," "whistle-blowers" and those considered to be social "deviates" are among its prime targets.

Civil rights advocates: Wake up and smell the police state that has co-opted POTUS and a deluded Congress into becoming enablers of vigilante injustice and domestic torture.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

See "GESTAPO USA" at http://NowPublic.com/scrivener ("stream" or "stories" list).

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 22, 2009 10:50 AM

We need to defeat obama's socialist agenda on every front to try to salvage this country.
The "mob" mentality of the liberal democrats shows the true colors of this administration.
The march towards socialism needs to be stopped and obama's plan of government reliance for everyone has to be reversed.

Illegal immigration needs to be addressed to save billions of health care dollars and reduce costs for all Americans.

The massive tax cost of the cap & trade bill is not acceptable and the bill may hopefully fall by the wayside.
Obama's rape and pillaging of this country needs to be stopped.
Remember, elections next year and he's pe'od the old folks with the medicare cuts.

Posted by: spiris333 | July 22, 2009 9:55 AM
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You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

Every time a conservative says the world "socialist" it is like they are saying "I am so scared of what I don't understand because I am either too lazy or too dumb to learn about it."

This "mob" mentality that you speak of, is that the "mob" of the citizens of the United States that want health care reform and trust Obama to give it to them? You know, THE 56% MAJORITY OF AMERICA who wants health care reform. I am sorry that you are on the losing side. Maybe you should try to actually apply logic and facts to your comments instead of trying to scare votes out of people. You may get a better response.

What exactly is your plan for illegal immigration? Is your plan to address it going to work? If you have no plan, why do you even bring it up?

Is $175 a year really a "massive tax cost of the cap & trade bill?" I would think that it would be more of a tax when your kids all have cancer from pollution AND they have to pay WAY more money for energy to terrorists.

How much did the drug, energy, and republican lobbyists pay you to make comments on this website? That is the only logical reason why you would support the puppet masters of this country instead of the citizens of this country. Unless you really are just a "dittohead."

Posted by: Independent4tw | July 22, 2009 10:11 AM

We need to defeat obama's socialist agenda on every front to try to salvage this country.
The "mob" mentality of the liberal democrats shows the true colors of this administration.
The march towards socialism needs to be stopped and obama's plan of government reliance for everyone has to be reversed.

Illegal immigration needs to be addressed to save billions of health care dollars and reduce costs for all Americans.

The massive tax cost of the cap & trade bill is not acceptable and the bill may hopefully fall by the wayside.
Obama's rape and pillaging of this country needs to be stopped.
Remember, elections next year and he's pe'od the old folks with the medicare cuts.

Posted by: spiris333 | July 22, 2009 9:55 AM

Obama, Pelosi, Reid and their ilk are like turkey vultures sitting above us in putrid nests of phoney money borrowed from Red China and printed by their order. This phoney money is their power base. As long as they can tax, borrow and spend the future of America away, they are safe to mouth lofty, meaningless speeches to the Chicken Littles below.
These people are stealing the future of young Americans and any thirty-something who allows these turkeys to break open their eggs and suck the life out of their hatchlings is a Chicken Little.
And shame on Nana and Papa for being so selfish as to spend your child's future today!

Posted by: lclifton | July 22, 2009 9:33 AM
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Please look at this graph:

http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html

This graphs PROVES that the REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS are the people who "borrow and spend" MORE then the DEMOCRATS.

Also, you mention "spend your child's future today." That is funny considering that Health care is going to cost your kids MORE money in the future if we don't reduce the costs and increase the efficiency now. Maybe estimates say that this $1 Trillion in spending, which is completely "tax increase" free for people who make less then $300k a year, will SAVE the government $2 trillion after 10 years. That basically means that if you are against this reform, then you are FOR charging your kids TWICE as much as this reform costs.

What is it like to be brainwashed into thinking that a overhaul of our outdated health care system is a bad idea? Was it really that easy to trick you into thinking that your HEALTH is not worth all that much? You can lead an idiot to health care, but you can't make them understand that America needs it.

Posted by: Independent4tw | July 22, 2009 9:41 AM

Obama, Pelosi, Reid and their ilk are like turkey vultures sitting above us in putrid nests of phoney money borrowed from Red China and printed by their order. This phoney money is their power base. As long as they can tax, borrow and spend the future of America away, they are safe to mouth lofty, meaningless speeches to the Chicken Littles below.
These people are stealing the future of young Americans and any thirty-something who allows these turkeys to break open their eggs and suck the life out of their hatchlings is a Chicken Little.
And shame on Nana and Papa for being so selfish as to spend your child's future today!

Posted by: lclifton | July 22, 2009 9:33 AM

Lets just look at what would happen in each outcome of this health care reform and see which one the Republicans are hoping for:

1) Health care reform passes. It sucks. The country spirals into anarchy. People vote for republicans for the next 8 years, and every democrat is replaced.

2) Health care reform passes. It is great. Obama has higher numbers then ever. Republicans are laughed out of office, and their party disappears forever.

Which situation scares the republicans more? Situation #2. If the republicans know that health care will be bad for America, why don't they sit back and let it pass so that Obama looks bad when it is horrible? It is BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS KNOW that it will be good for the country, and put the nail in their coffins.

Posted by: Independent4tw | July 22, 2009 9:11 AM

Imagine what would happen if someone came to us and said, hey I have some investors that are interested in privatizing Fire Departments in the country so that instead of the government being between you and your fireman, you will have corporate executives. Now in doing so, we will offer coverage that will result in more deaths per capita and at twice the cost of what other similar countries pay. Oh and BTW we will cover 16% less of the population than the government run programs do resulting in 18,000 people/year burning to death who are not covered (18,000 deaths blamed on lack of insurance - USA Today).

You would think that people seeking to do this as the sickest most deranged people in the world for attempting to increase the administrative overhead costs from Medicare's 5% to the Insurance industries 20%. The audacity to think that Americans would ever allow privatization of their Fire Departments is ludicrous; let alone some stupid talk about "Socialized" Fire Protection. Government and Capitalism, as Enron and this Depression show, are both just as capable of mismanagement. What matters is which tool is best for the tasks of Defense, Police, Traffic Control, Fire Protection, or Health Care? The insurance industry said they would do a better job since the Clinton era. They seriously believe that we are dumb enough to doubt our ability to manage this as we manage our "socialized" armed services.

Are we to believe that other industrialized nations that pay half as much as we do for national health care and have longer life expectancy are somehow superior to Americans? Are their governments better than ours? Why do Republicans not believe that Americans can do what others have done as well, if not better?

Posted by: eclvvin | July 22, 2009 8:57 AM

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