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Gates's Daughter: Beer Summit Made 'Little Sense'

By Garance Franke-Ruta
The daughter of Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr., Elizabeth Gates, had some harsh words in the Daily Beast Friday for the so-called "Beer Summit" Thursday at the White House, involving her father, President Obama, Vice President Biden and Cambridge, Mass., police Sgt. James Crowley, who arrested Henry Gates for disorderly conduct earlier this month.

Elizabeth Gates, who joined her father at the White House, writes in "What I Saw at the Beer Summit" that the gathering "seemed to make little sense at all."

"It wasn't because the president was wrong in offering up a few cold ones to my father, Henry Louis Gates, and the now infamous Sgt. James Crowley in an attempt to tame the media blitz around my father's arrest -- it was because like most issues that make their way to TMZ, the reference point had shifted. The debate over Red Stripe and Blue Moon had somehow overshadowed the fact that this story began with a black Harvard professor and a white cop from Natick, Mass.," she writes.

"... It was clear that this day wasn't going to be the beginning of a serious discussion on human relations but rather a circus-like ending of a misunderstanding between a couple of very decent men."

Later in her piece, she says Crowley "isn't the first officer to fudge a police report" and calls her father and Crowley "simply pawns in the rebirth of unfashionable intolerance in a world that likes to think our dashing brown-skinned 44th president has emerged to make nice with the past, present, and future."

"It's an impossible task for the president," she concludes, "and speaks more to our nation's vulnerable value system than the unfortunately common situation my father and the Cambridge police found themselves embroiled in. As my father said on the plane yesterday morning on our way to the White House, 'there are approximately 800,000 black men in prison and on July 16, 2009, I simply became one of them.' "

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"At midyear 2008, there were 4,777 black male inmates per 100,000 black males held in state and federal prisons and local jails, compared to 1,760 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 727 white male inmates per 100,000 white males."

Maybe black parents need to do a better job of teaching their kids right from wrong. But what does this have to do with this story. This is about a black scholar, who thinks he is elitist, acting like an a**hole when a police officer arrives at the seen answering a 911 call that someone may be breaking in. If Gates had any brains at all he would have shown the officer his ID, thanked the officer and went about his day.

It's people like Gates that fuel these (false) cries of racism. Maybe if people like Gates would stop crying racism at every turn they could be a role model for the young blacks of America and then maybe there wouldn't be 4,777 black male inmates per 100,000 in jail!

Posted by: MJMJ1 | August 3, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

JRM2 or dlkimura:

It's only a "lie" if no one told Sgt. Crowley the purported race of the suspects -- neither of you KNOW what Lucia Whalen said about that, outside of the 911 recording and her own statement -- it's going to be impossible to file this one under the "should be forgotten as soon as possible" file and let it go as long as your side keeps maligning the Cambridge Police without knowing all of the facts. Even Obama realizes that was a mistake.

Posted by: JakeD | August 3, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me the reaction or people predisposed to being racist to a victiom of rascism is to call the victim a rascist.

And I thought DC was a liberal and open minded city. But after reading these utterly hateful comments, I think I'm starting to think differently.

Posted by: martymg1 | August 3, 2009 2:18 AM | Report abuse

It's no wonder the president's numbers are seriously slipping just six months into his term.

Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | August 3, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Don’t worry daughter! Nothing has overshadowed the fact. The fact was important enough to call the world attention. I am thinking about what Benjamin Franklin wrote,

“Wouldst thou extract the purest Sweet of Life;
Be nor Ally nor Principal in Strife.
A Mediator there, thy Balsam brings.
And lenify the Wound, and draw the Sting,
Our Hate let Kindness her warm Embers throw,
And mould into a Friend the melting Foe.
The weakest Foe boasts some revenging Pow´r;
The weakest Friend some serviceable Hour.”

Posted by: avesaabrasil | August 3, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

The infamy of Skip Gates is this: he screamed racism and refused to show his identity to a decent cop sent to protect his home, called in by a decent citizen who was then abused by black commentators for being a racist. The bottom line is, when it comes to competition or critique--be it an exam in Hartford for fire fighters or the presidency of the United States--the race card is played without hesitation. Bill Clinton and Hillary were thrown under the bus as racists. It is impossible to dialogue when one of the partners in the conversation is ready to push the nuclear button at the first sign of competition, critique or accountability.

Posted by: medogsbstfrnd | August 2, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Gates' daughter wrote something much more interesting and helpful than the Post blog. Garance Franke-Ruta is just incendiary while adding nothing to constructive dialog. What a waste.

Posted by: johnzeller | August 2, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

She should ask his father, "How come your such an @sshole?"

Posted by: bendan2000 | August 2, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse


Perhaps Ms. Gates makes a point that I have missed, or not factored propertly.

But one could wish she were not so bitter in these pages...and could maybe regard the

beer thing as just a tidy little "set piece" a little make nice thing. That happens all the time in proper society and
is a GOOD thing. Whether or not tremulously
valuable.

Posted by: kindfrazier | August 2, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

It's fascinating to me that Elisabeth Gates, whose mother is white, is already branded a racist by some posters here. And where's the outrage that Crowley falsified hia report by claiming a caller saw "two black people breaking in?" Crowley is the person who first made this a racial issue.

Posted by: blackmediawatch | August 2, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that the racist in this scenario was Crowley, for falsely claiming in his police report that "two black men with backpacks were breaking into a house," when the caller clearly stated not only did she not know what race they were (she thought they were Hispanic) but that they also may live there since they had suitcases.

Posted by: blackmediawatch | August 2, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I didn't know that officer Crowley was "infamous"? Mr. Gates can send as many flowers as he wants to whomever he pleases, but until he gets face to face with officer Crowley's mother and apologizes to her for his sick comments about her, neither he nor his daughter's comments mean anything!

Posted by: rolcan | August 2, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps, the most teachable moment to come out of this event was that it is always prudent to retain your composure when dealing with anyone who is carrying an instrument of human violence on his person.

Cops are like armed criminals in only one regard. They are both human. As such, they are prone to doing things that they regret after the fact. An out-of-control and hysterical Professor Gates was very fortunate he was not inadvertently shot by either an angry or a fearful officer Crowley. Tragic misunderstandings like this, while infrequent, do occur in this country.

If it had, Crowley would undoubtedly go to jail for a long time. The African American community would have a new martyr. Harvard would name a new building after the fallen Professor. But, Gates would still be very dead for his role in the melee.

And that my friends is a teachable moment we can all learn from.

Posted by: pgould1 | August 2, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps Ms. Gates would like to calibrate those words differently, after the appalled reaction to her article at The Daily Beast.

Posted by: auntmo9990 | August 2, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

It is high time for people to speak as truthfully as they know how when addressing all issues. My Bible teaches against bearing false witness, yet it seems that few know this teaching (commandment). Those on the religious right yells about the prohibition of publishing the Ten Commandments in public places but they do not practice the commandments, whether in public view or not.

I have yet to see a complete verified statement of facts surrounding the arrest of Professor Gates. All I see are people taking sides based on hearsay. It should be the responsibility of the press to put forth the facts.

Posted by: EarlC | August 2, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Gates' daughter may have shared some truth about the situation because the some in the media do focus on the non-issues of beer choice rather than on the substance and significance of the meeting.

However, such an incident like this will cause many to take another look at such an easy to understand example of misunderstanding resulting from some stereotypes that should be removed from our justice and law enforcement system.

The Sotomayor hearings in the Senate also revealed how stereotypes manifest themselves even by those who try to hide their own biases. Sotomayor often jokingly stated some of the statements that she made that were so taken out of context by those alleging that she was prejudiced. In reality, the "white conservative" senators who opposed her revealed their deep-seated frustration with trying to oppose a clearly qualified person of minority status.

There is a basis for reverse discrimination. However, one should always hold suspect those who identify reverse discrimination when they themselves still practice discrimination and the ones who were the reason for having laws providing for affirmative action. Has anyone thought about the fact that we white guys are the cause of the problems with which we are dealing today. If we had been fair in our past dealings, we would not be in such a fuss now. The last I checked, it is white men that are 99% responsible for the disaster to the American economy today.

Gates' daughter has some more learning to do. She will realize that one must accept the opportunities that are offered when they are offered.

Posted by: EarlC | August 2, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

So, now you're reporting on other's reporting?

Times really are tough, aren't they?

Posted by: bmschumacher | August 2, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Whole lotta disappointment being expressed at the Harvard Crimson magazine about how Professor Gates embarassed the entire community with his outrageous behavior.

Same kinda disdain being expressed at the website Black Agenda Report.

I guess all those elite private schools Ms. Gates got to attend, along with the children of Eugene Robinson, warped her perception of reality.

Posted by: auntmo9990 | August 2, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Obamarx is the most racist President we've had in >50 years.

Posted by: TruData | August 2, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Obviously Gates's daughter will take his side and growing with his influence she probably is pre-disposed to be a racist.
As for the amounts of blacks in prison I realize the 3's maybe skewed but has anyone thought that a majority of the crimes committed are by blacks hence more in jail. When blacks have the access to better legal representation they get better shake sometimes, anyone remember OJ ??? Guilty as hell but a jury of his peers all blacks and his defense attny who made a mockery of judicial system and pulled race card everywhere, got off. Get over it already go to school quit being lazy, and not caring, your parents need to be parents, and look up to someone like Obama instead of LeBron and Kobe. Sometimes we all have to do it for ourselves and not wait for someone to help or make it easier.

Posted by: lildg54 | August 2, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse

At midyear 2008, there were 4,777 black male inmates per 100,000 black males held in state and federal prisons and local jails, compared to 1,760 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 727 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm

What is the reason for this statistic? Who cares, this is an abomination. Wake up America

Posted by: danielcmalloy | August 2, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

It is clear that most commentators have raced to their polarized myopic viewpoints...I really should stop reading these things because there is very little, if any insightful discussion and analysis going on. Maybe because that would which require critical thinking skills...The debate the last 10-14 days over this incident clearly shows that most Americans don't know what that means. *SIGH*

Posted by: mykaladrian | August 2, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

As my father said on the plane yesterday morning on our way to the White House, 'there are approximately 800,000 black men in prison and on July 16, 2009, I simply became one of them.' "

An inmate who lives a comparative life of luxury in Cambridge. A little hyperbole can be excused, but this ... ridiculous and utterly shameful. Playing the race card to the hilt.

Posted by: burtonpaul | August 2, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Latinos are coming forward and complaining they, too, are disproportionately targeted by police. Exclusively white cops, I presume?
It almost sounds like whites are whites are whites, no matter where they might be from.

Posted by: votealready | August 2, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Prof. Gates asked, "Why? Because I'm a black man in America?"

And what was Crowley's answer? Did he deny it?

Crowley's silence, and the dropping of charges by the Cambridge DA, speak volumes.

By the way, entering another's home without permission or legal authority is disorderly conduct. Crowley should have arrested himself. He IS sworn to uphold the law, you know.

Posted by: RC11 | August 2, 2009 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Dear Elizabeth Gates,

You say Crowley isn't the first officer "to fudge a police report."

Well, you and your daddy aren't the first blacks to hurl accusations of racism when things don't go your way.

Your daddy made a total fool of himself hollering racism over a legitimate police inquiry and he let his academic ego get the better of him.

Elizabeth, scolding Americans for our various sins is proving very popular among an elite group of self-appointed moralists such as yourselves, but here's a little advice for you and all the rest of America's aristocratic critics: A little less hypocrisy, a little more appreciation of your good lives — and then maybe the rest of us will listen to you a little more.


Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | August 2, 2009 7:30 AM | Report abuse

You'd have more credibility, Ms. Gates, if you addressed the "racism" of your fellow Blacks calling Sgt. Lashley an "Uncle Tom," and urged them to stop doing so.

And smearing a 14-year-old girl for her eyeliner doesn't reflect on the girl. It reflects on YOU.

But a daughter of Henry Gates, who has been raised in the upper-crust, with all the luxuries of same, with vacations in Martha's Vineyard, sometimes ASSumes that looking down on others, and expressing catty comments in sarcasm, is her right, because of her "CLASS," right?

I rather doubt you've ever been in an inner city ghetto school to volunteer, or that you even care about the very same poor, Black people you and your father left behind in your climb, while hiding behind them in your shallow self-defense.

Your condescension DRIPS from every word you write.

Due respect.

Posted by: auntmo9990 | August 2, 2009 7:03 AM | Report abuse

In the past, in the South there were white racists that belonged to the KKK. Today, in Gates and daughter we see the opposie, Black racists. And what's up with the continuous reference to Harvard Professor? Just because Harvard has a strong affirmative po;icy for blacks and very few other minorities, it does not mean that all Harvard professors are that great. While a graduate student at UCLA, I had a history professor who not only got his PhD at Harvard, but also taught there before seeking a job at UCLA, and he was not that great. On the other hand my advisor in Ancient History had an MA degree from UC Berkley, and he could run circles around this Harvard professor. I taught at UC Maryland and I did not consider myself iferior or superior to ther professors. The Spike Lee revolution is gaining ground in people like the Gates

Posted by: kyprios9281 | August 2, 2009 1:32 AM | Report abuse

What is clear to me is that there are a lot of small minded folk who fail to acknowledge a history of abuses by the police. Funny how many people on this site are calling Gates a lair when he has maintained his story all along. And, of course the police officer who was actually caught in a lie (a.k.a his inaccurate police report) is still believed simply because he's a cop. I suspect. most of the people commenting on this article are a certain type. You know the self righteous type that don't like to admit (even to themselves) how racists they truly are.

What this case comes down to is that Gates said things to the police officer that the officer didn't like and a manner the officer didn't appreciate. The officer than abused his power and arrested him.

Really? How can you be disorderly in your own home? If you don't like how someone is acting in their own home, leave their home. Situation settled.

Posted by: martymg1 | August 2, 2009 1:28 AM | Report abuse


mdpilot said:
"Ms. Gates father is an asss"

Egads good buddy, I fear you are correct.

.

Posted by: Billw3 | August 2, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

To all of you gates supporters:

A 58 year old man with a cane excuse, huh? That’s the best you got? Once again ,another liberal trying to be a victim. Let’s remember the VERY old guy who shot an officer at the Jewish museum was nearly 90 years old and weakly looking, but had a gun and used it with ease. Cops always have to assume that any one can be dangerous. Gates should have known better. Does he honestly want us to believe the Cop still wanted to arrest him, even after learning it was his own house? That makes absolutely no sense. Gates got arrested because he was shooting off his mouth about a white officer questioning his legitimacy? After all, he was a Harvard Professor and wanted to be acknowledging of it. Like me, that officer did not give a crap if he was a PHD working at Harvard. It was clear Gates was not acting like a PHD individual. Your momma? Come on, 99% of Boston’s HS drop outs used this term when they don’t have any intelligent response. After all of Gates education, you mean this was the only thing he could use? Memo to Gate’s daughter, that's what officers do, they ask questions and they are not there to kiss your A33! Some one should asked Gate's daughter would she'd rather her dad met at the front door ,the "boys in the hood wanna be gansters " or the police that day? (there was already a prior break in at Gates place ) Please people, smart people know the Gates families are full of it!

Posted by: JohnQ2009 | August 2, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Now the totally uninvolved daughter wants her '15 minutes of fame'.

Oh man!

Posted by: mosthind | August 1, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Gates and daughter are still on a plantation, they just don't realize that they are the foremen.

Posted by: georgejones5 | August 1, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Lucia Whalen made it very clear in the 911 recording, that in her point of view, things did not look all that threatening. She did not really know what to make of the situation, but thought she should report it anyway.

She never said anything pertaining to anybody involved being a black male.

The police obviously "fudged" something by turning the call into being about two black male suspects.

Crowley isn't probably your typical "racist" personality. He seems like an intelligent, decent man that made a few bad choices when confronted by a scrappy older black gentleman, who maybe had a chip on his shoulder.

But cops cannot afford be too sensitive to "difficult" citizens, as it's a waste of the taxpayer's dime arresting someone, just because they were not polite or fully cooperative. Their job is to enforce the laws and protect the citizenry. Persons without a very long fuse, should not be in the business of law enforcement.

File this one under the "should be forgotten as soon as possible" file and let it go...

Posted by: dlkimura | August 1, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: familynet:
If the 800K blacks incarcerated acted as "stupidly" as did Gates, then they deserve some time in jail! And if she wants to talk about

((((("fudging" the evidence,))))))

"she's" talking about penmanship. writing statements, in a police report, that may not be true or accurate, to say the least!
-------------------------------

(((((((((((THIS IS NOT ILLEGAL))))))))))))

(((then she should look at Gates' initial comments to the media and what was actually said in the recordings.)))

Posted by: opp88 | August 1, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

we learned that a havard prof will call a cops mom's names if he's tired and cranky.

and then he'll claim racism.

Posted by: newagent99 | August 1, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

It makes a lot of sense. Obama ran his car off the road with this incident and he desparately needed to get it back on track.

As clumsy as it was, "having a beer" at the white house is a kind of oxymoron trying to conflate the relaxed atmosphere of the local bar w/waiter st the White House may have worked after all, all the red herrings as what kind of beer to drink have taken minds off of the incident.

Obama's goal was a kind of "nothing to see here" moment. It may have worked.

Posted by: jhtlag1 | August 1, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

SOMEONE MADE THIS A BLACK AND WHITE THING. HOW DID THE WORDS 'BLACK MALES' IN UP IN CROWLEY'S ARREST REPORT? DID THOSE WORDS JUST GROW LEGS AND PLANT ITSELF?

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/Police%20report%20on%20Gates%20arrest.PDF

uh oh, bad news for Officer Crowley in his report he claims that the 911 caller described at the scene of two black men with backpacks. Lucia Whalen, 911 caller denies ever making such a claim.

was Crowley setting himself up an alibi?

Posted by: opp88 | August 1, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

She graciously referred to both as "very decent men."

'Nuff said.

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | August 1, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Gates father is an asss who begat a *itch.

Posted by: mdpilot | August 1, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Ms Gates seems to have a chip on her shoulder. How can she have such certitude that Officer Crowley "Fudged a police report"? And isn't she a wee bit inconsistent if she thinks that the officer is a "very decent man" at the same time that she is accusing him of perjury and perversion of justice?

Posted by: ianstuart | August 1, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately for Ms. Gates, the only one who is "infamous" as a result of this incident is her father, the pompous college professor in need of anger management classes.

Posted by: jshay | August 1, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, he was not arrested because of his color but because of his behavior. It would have been more appropriate to say that he just became part of a prison population who did not have the good sense to obey an officer who was called to investigate a potential crime scene. Skin color does not define this group.

Posted by: kdanc | August 1, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

PROF. GATES 'THE ROOT'...

INTERESTING, REVEALING AND DISTURBING COMMENTS POSTED TO THE WEB SITE HE EDITS

• Some postings appear to dash hopes of a post-racial America, while others reaffirm American value of equal justice for all


See the following current link:

http://www.theroot.com/views/gates-sends-flowers-911-caller

OR (if link is falsely arrested):

http://theroot.com

***

WaPo readers: Try to post there and see if your comments go through; it appears that Prof. Gates' site is subject to malicious disruption and "blog-spamming."

Posted by: scrivener50 | August 1, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

More blah blah from the peanut gallery, and the silliness just goes on and on...

Posted by: clankie | August 1, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

APPARENT GOV'T PRIOR RESTRAINT/CENSORSHIP OF THIS BLOG...

Once again, a political comment to this blog has elicited the "held for blog owner" full screen message -- although WaPo does NOT "hold" blog posts unless its software detects foul language.

It appears the political blogs of The Washington Post are subject to prior restraint and/or outright censorship by a government surveillance program that is using its mission as a pretext to harass and censor American citizens by way of their personal telecommunications.

Read more, here:

http://nowpublic.com/world/govt-fusion-center-spying-pretext-harass-and-censor

For those interested in what kind of commentary elicits apparent prior restraint and/or censorship -- apparently unbeknownst to the site owner or its editors -- I will repost the commentary at the end of this thread of the ACLU "freedom blog":

http://blog.aclu.org/2009/01/26/internet-filters-voluntary-ok-not-government-mandate


Posted by: scrivener50 | August 1, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

"Later in her piece, she says Crowley 'isn't the first officer to fudge a police report'"

Presumptively, Gates isn't the first father to lie about what he said or how he acted in order to save face.

Posted by: dalton2 | August 1, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Why is the opinion of Gates' daughter even newsworthy? Did anyone solicit opinions from the kids and wife of Sgt. Crowley?

Oh... wait! Now I understand! Gates' daughter makes reference to "the now infamous Sgt. James Crowley." Hmm. Is this is a reader extrapolation thing? So here is what I'm reading between the lines: Mr. Gates would have done well to teach his own kids about profiling, respect, and racism. Apparently, Ms. Gates might have also benefitted from a bit of sensitivity training herself. One thing for sure, she is grabbing her own limelight.

All this mess, all of it, has taught me that I may have been overly idealistic in my goodwill to people. One race is just as likely as the next to hammer resentment and punishment on the other, and usually it all comes down to personal agendas.

Posted by: teresaPaloAlto | August 1, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

He said he didn't say yo momma. Ann Bier

Posted by: jimsbier | August 1, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse


nursjane said:
"Gates is a jerk."

Close. I'd say a beligerent jerk.

.

Posted by: Billw3 | August 1, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone read the police incident report? If so, they will know that the "report" contradicts what Lucia Whalen, the caller, has said. It also contradicts the transcript of the 911 call on whether Ms. Whalen referred to the two males trying to enter the home as " black males." Is anything in the police report honest and truthful? Are the people who are so eager to attack President Obama and Professor Gates interested in the facts? At the point, according tho the plice report, where Sergeant Crawley came to believe that Professor Gates was "probably" the rightful resident of the house, why did he not leave and go back to work? Is his behavior in compliance with his training? If not, why not? Was this an arrest based on the law or on the whim of one who was acting improperly?

Posted by: mhumphrey1 | August 1, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm starting to understand racism -- it is as much a matter of what one "sees," depending on the color of skin, as anything else.

So let us assume Mr. Gates really did see himself as just one of the (many; I cannot verify the 800,000 figure used here independently) black men in prison on July 16.

From my perspective as not a black man, I don't see going down to the local lockup as being "in prison."

That's where the racism starts -- with one's perspective on the same situation or set of facts.

From my perspective as an observer of news and the media that provide it, there is another aspect to this story that is largely overlooked: If you cross the police, you are going to pay for it. Period. (And if you have a gun in your hand when you do, you are probably going to get shot and die from that.)

As a nation, we need to realize this and respect it. If we don't, and everyone -- whatever the skin color -- decides to make a joke of the local police force, we'll end up like the situation in Iraq, where the local police, tasked with keeping order, just cannot do it.

If our economy gets any worse, we are going to have more very desperate people walking among us, and the nation will have to depend on local police forces to maintain civil order. We cannot afford to have citizens taking sides against local police officers or getting sidetracked with issues of whether educated black scholars should or should not be arrested.

And here's another thing lost: WHAT IF the majority of whites in this country have gotten to the point where people are seen as people, no matter what the color of skin? Does this mean certain people who are clearly violating the law or local ordinance suddenly are supposed to be considered NOT guilty just because they are black? If blacks think whites always get a free pass, do they thihnk that absence of racism on the part of whites means they get a free pass? Just wondering.

Posted by: Xlnt | August 1, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure where the media got the idea that the so-called "beer summit" was designed to cure America of racism.

Perhaps it was just an opportunity for the two principals to get together and iron out some of their differences, using the White House as a carrot. And the media was busy trying to make it into something grander, only to shoot it down when it turned out to simply be two guys getting together to iron out some of their differences.

Posted by: labman57 | August 1, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

The tragedy is not race-relations, but rather that 800,000 black men put themselves into prison by their deeds. They do not accord with the standards and laws set by society, and so, go to prison. Many of them are unparented--had teen mothers and no fathers. Many have never read a book, or looked outside their insular world of crime, recklessness, and contempt of society. It is not the RACE that is the problem for these men; it is the BEHAVIOR.

Posted by: IIntgrty | August 1, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Yup. There is an entitlement firebrand gene.

Posted by: craigslsst | August 1, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Elizabeth, please strongly consider giving it a rest for the sake of all that is good and holy. Why? It appears to me that a number of factors were involved in this Gates-Crowley saga (or is it incidence). If there was injustice here, it is possible that race was one of them, but the quick judgment by the media and key public figures that there was injustice done here and that race was the key factor in all did only two things: 1) fatten the pockets of media "talking heads"--exploiting or hyping the race card is always a sure bet; and 2) very polarizing. White's are not into guilt trip dialogs as means of righting any injustices in this area. Elizabeth, this is definitely not a center stage issue that it has been out to be. You've been played...hopefully you are not enjoying the press or receiving money on this issue. I believe this saga has done us more harm than good. So please it a rest.

Posted by: Doug505 | August 1, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

arrogance must be in the genes,or perhaps their distinguished educations made them experts on racial hatred

Posted by: pofinpa | August 1, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

The City of Cambridge can be considered very lucky that Gates hasn't filed suit against it and Sgt. Crowley.

The 911 tapes, the police radio calls, and the "falsified" police report, along with the fact that the "trumped up" charges were dropped almost immediately.... Would speak volumes to a Judge hearing the case and making the decision.

I believe there is a problem with our "justice system" allowing police officers to "lie" to people they confront in their daily policing activities.
It gives way to the prospect of those same "lies" being found in a police report and showing up in courts throughout the United States.

Posted by: motiv8ed | August 1, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

As a black person myself, i don't know what the heck Gate's daughter is talking about. How is it that her father is like the black criminals who have robbed banks ,old ladies ,killed people and sold drugs who are now doing legitimate time in prison? What a bunch of cr$p! I asked anyone to go to the prisons and ask those black men why they are in prison and 90% of them will tell you it was because of many of the things i have just mention that they did and by choice!!. I am a black man surviving and I am not in prison and i have nothing in common with those clowns who are. I know right from wrong (like my moma taught me ) daughter gates!! Next time , tell your uppidy daddy to use his intelligents the next time instead of yelling"your momma" , (soo ghetto) while refusing to cooperate. All he had to do wass show his i.d ,thanked the officer for comming over ...and if something smart was said to him, take it up in court like smart intelligent people do. all of that education, and Gates still turns out to be just as clueless as those losers who in prison . That , to me,is what he has in common, stupidity! It's not anything the officer did!Only uneducated guys act that why. A man of his education should had clearly known better.

Posted by: JohnQ2009 | August 1, 2009 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Another sad confirmation of the recent sad and shocking revelation that huge numbers of blacks are not against racism, after all, but only against the racism -- and the quickly imagined racism -- directed at themselves.

Continuing to fan that flame and the flames of blsck victimology will put black-white relations into reverse in this country, and might even destroy the presidency of a very decent and intelligent man who seems our best hope now for a better America by many different measures, not just race.

Posted by: YondCassius | August 1, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Oh boo hoo, isn't it a pity to be treated like every other person who has mouthed of to a cop.

Posted by: kl305 | August 1, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

If the 800K blacks incarcerated acted as "stupidly" as did Gates, then they deserve some time in jail! And if she wants to talk about "fudging" the evidence, then she should look at Gates' initial comments to the media and what was actually said in the recordings.

Posted by: familynet | August 1, 2009 7:51 AM | Report abuse

It is very disheartening that Elizabeth Gates would refer to Seargent Crowley as infamous. He was a man doing his job. Gates was the racist by threatening Crowley that he would "get his Momma". It is disgusting and, I for one will not tolerate that language from anyone.
Americans are suffering from "It is becauae I am black" fatigue. Until "Blacks" stop using that as an excuse for their mistakes the race issue will continue.
Crowley is a hero. Gates is a jerk.

Posted by: nursjane | August 1, 2009 7:25 AM | Report abuse

And they all lived happily ever after!!

Posted by: jihadalready | August 1, 2009 7:12 AM | Report abuse

A summit and kind gestures will not satisfy him who will not be satisfied. Gates is professionally a victim. The summit is the best that Gates will get. He's not going to get unlimited groveling from Crowley by playing the race card and evoking white guilt.
Gates comes off very poorly in the eyes of some. Crowley comes off poorly in the eyes of others. It's time to let this go.

Posted by: OhMy | August 1, 2009 7:00 AM | Report abuse

Nothing like having a "Beer Summit" to promote drinking.

Posted by: wnygrl585 | August 1, 2009 6:49 AM | Report abuse

in its selective quotations, the post has mischaracterized ms. gate's piece. in "the daily beast" she offers a rueful yet streetsmart impression of a signal event -- not a chilly dismissal of its importance. on the contrary, she suggests that its importance extends far beyond what four men could accomplish over glasses of beer. but she isn't "harsh" in her estimation of what the men at least tried, by sitting down together, to stand for -- decency. the problems they talked about remain for us, as a society, to make "sense" of. did we think we could get off this easily, with a beer summmit among four nice guys? that's the question she's provocatively posing.

Posted by: doggedstrength | August 1, 2009 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Why is Gates traveling with his granddaughter?

Posted by: Bitter_Bill | August 1, 2009 1:09 AM | Report abuse

I like the comment were the person says that President Obama is the most racist President ever. That was a classic white person answer to what is wrong in this world. White people are innocent and the rest of the world is guilty, While I don't believe that all white people believe this it is surprising at the number of of bloggers who believe. Go Obama!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jjack1 | August 1, 2009 12:53 AM | Report abuse


Gates first comment to Crowley was "You looked bigger the last time I saw you". In other words 'You don't look so big and threatening now'. What a guy..

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Posted by: Billw3 | July 31, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

You know what they say: like hater father, like hater daughter (or words to that effect). Not only did she constantly play the race card in her smear editorial, but she even smeared the way Crowley's 14-year-old daughter looked.

Not only are the Gates a piece of work, but so is Gates' lawyer (also a former BHO advisor):

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008270.html

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | July 31, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Elizabeth Gates is a racist just like her father. There were plenty of neighbors right at the scene that said gates was wrong. There were black cops there as well I guess the blue stick together is the other cop out.
The sad part... Mr Obama acted like a jerk.
His arrogance is worst then Bush ever was. His racism is ever present and a divided nation we will stay under this administration. With the likes of Eric Holder and a shadow Govt. (44-Czars and counting) Obama will try and transform this country to mere pittance of it self.

Posted by: dbonade | July 31, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Ruperb is the product of a RusHannity bowel movement.

One that spills out the bullexcrement he collects on a daily basis right into his skull

Posted by: HumanSimpleton | July 31, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Obamarx behaved stupidly.

Posted by: Ruperb | July 31, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the most racist President we've had in over 50 years.

Posted by: Ruperb | July 31, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Love how folks know for a fact Crowley lied on the police report. Because it's just impossible that a respected black professor would ever unjustly accuse someone of racism. No, that would never happen.

Posted by: SCMark | July 31, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

The Gates-Crowley incident was not "Racial Profiling," it was "Contempt of Cop," a frequent occurrence with clear race and class bias. If they are wise, Dr. Gates and Sgt. Crowley will do a joint study of the “Contempt of Cop” issue. Sgt. Crowley (who taught a class on racial profiling at the Lowell Police Academy) could instruct officers how to avoid this abuse of discretionary police powers of arrest.


http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/beer-summit-hangover/

Posted by: MikeLicht | July 31, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Elizabeth Gates. Two men at that meeting had taken steps to improve the situation by reflecting on their own contribution. Neither of them was Sergeant Crowley.

Posted by: sfexpat2000 | July 31, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

"He should take this learning experience by taking a class on how to take his foot out of his mouth.

Posted by: MOMLEE | July 31, 2009 7:35 PM"
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And Crowley shouldn't be so thinned skinned and let his anger break the law, nor lie on a police report.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 31, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Gates should know Roses will never cover-up the words he spouted at the scene. Too little, too late. He should take this learning experience by taking a class on how to take his foot out of his mouth.

Posted by: MOMLEE | July 31, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

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