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Obama Stands by His Criticism

Updated 3:59 p.m.
By Garance Franke-Ruta
President Obama stood by his criticism of the Cambridge police department's arrest of Harvard University Prof. Henry Louis Gates Jr., telling ABC News's Terry Moran he was "surprised" by the controversy sparked by his comment during a prime-time news conference Wednesday that the department had behaved "stupidly."

"I have to say I am surprised by the controversy surrounding my statement because I think it was a pretty straightforward commentary that you probably don't need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who's in his own home," Obama told Moran in an interview set to air Thursday evening on "Nightline," excerpts from which were made available online.

The president called arresting officer Sgt. James Crowley an "outstanding police officer" but emphasized that "it doesn't make sense to arrest a guy in his own home if he's not causing a serious disturbance."

He also sought to be more even-handed in apportioning blame, suggesting that Gates, too, ought to have behaved differently. "I have extraordinary respect for the difficulties of the job that police officers do," the president added. "And my suspicion is that words were exchanged between the police officer and Mr. Gates and that everybody should have just settled down and cooler heads should have prevailed. That's my suspicion."

Earlier, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters traveling to Cleveland with the president on Air Force One that Gates's arrest was the result of behavior on "both sides" that got "out of hand."

"Let me be clear," Gibbs said. "He was not calling the officer stupid, okay? He was denoting that ... at a certain point the situation got far out of hand, and I think all sides understand that."

Obama has not spoken with Gates about his arrest, Gibbs said. At the news conference Wednesday, Obama called Gates a friend, saying "I may be a little biased here."

Obama's blunt assessment of the Cambridge police has sparked a wave of online and television chatter. "Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that," Obama said Wednesday night. "But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home."

Gibbs also clarified that when Obama spoke of potentially being shot for trying to jimmy a door, he was speaking of the White House, which is heavily protected by the Secret Service, and not of his private home in Chicago or the Chicago police.
Gates is founding editor of The Root, an online magazine owned by the Washington Post Co.

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Nana read your suggested article, too. Pretty empty. I have one for you:
"An Unlikely Meeting That Led to a National Talk About Race", byh Don Van Natta Jr, and Abby Goodnough, The New York Times, Monday, July 27, 2009, dateline Cambridge.
It seems, according to this article, the radio dispatch on this call went out at 12:45pm and by 12:51pm, Prof Gates was in handcuffs, charged with disorderly conduct. It also seems that Officer Crowley made inside to the kitchen of this man's home, where he examined two IDs that identified the man as a Harvard Prof who lived at that address. It also seems that during this escalated personal contact, the Cambridge police tried to reach Sgt Crowley three times and because there was silence, they dispatched 6 more cars. It seems Sgt Crowley did not accept the ID because he feared for his life for the sake of his wife and three daughters and because he claims his mother was insulted. What remains clear to me is that in the kitchen of that home, Sgt Crowley fulfilled his mission, was in no danger, and should have left. He did not take the Prof word that he was who he said he was and he did not take the ID and he did not answer his dept's calls, where verification of occupant at that address could have been made. This article goes into much detail about the individual personalities and characters of both of these men. Both profiles belie what transpired. It is very interesting. You should read it. I wonder if, in all of this, the Sgt ever introduced himself and stated the reason he was there and if Prof Gates could then have politely produced ID and informed him that he lived there and had to "jimmy" the door to get in, invite the officer to come in and have a look around, and assure him all is well....Something was missing in this exchange. I can appreciate the fact that the officer did not know what he was confronting when he arrived and had the first exchange with Gates. He could have then stated the purpose of the call. After all, within 6 minutes he had a small army of police officers gathered.....

Posted by: nana4 | July 27, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse


JakeD said:
"The arrest was not stupid"

Agreed. You don't yell insults at a policeman in front of a crowd.
If Obama were half a man, he's apologize.

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Posted by: Billw3 | July 27, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | July 27, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I have not responded because I have other things to do as well as sit and wait to see how people have responded to my comments. My last comment is this. I have no "talking points" any more than the rest of you have. I know this much. The police officer should have left when he completed the mission for which he was sent. He provoked, harrassed, and used poor judgement and escalated a situation that did not need any escalation. He is trained in these matters; he is a trainor; he is the authority. He could have and should have walked away. He did not. He made a stupid arrest. And no one, other than the President, has aknowledged that it all could have gone down differently than it did. Not Gates, not the police force, not the individual policeman. I am bothered by that. Because, it can happen again, to any one, even to you. It does not even have to involve "race". It is about appropriate professional judgement and abuse of power from those in whom we place our trust. That is my position and I am sticking with it. Finis.

Posted by: nana4 | July 27, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

angie12106:

Great post! Notice how "nana4" cannot respond to it. She doesn't have those talking points yet.

Posted by: JakeD | July 26, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

nana4:

The arrest was not stupid -- read the police report -- you need to stop extrapolating from the facts.

Posted by: JakeD | July 26, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Now we have an even newer version of events. The President did not respond simply as a black man in calling the arrest "stupid". He responded as an attorney. The arrest was stupid. There was no need to send two more policemen into the home. There were more outside. Someone escalated the whole thing and it was the police. Everyone will say what they will to protect their own turf, their own beliefs, their own needed assumptions. The man was arrested at his own home because the police appear to have created a situation out of none. It could happen to any of us. We cooperate up to a certain point with police. In a situation like this, it becomes harrassment and some of us do not do as well with harrassment as others and may protest it or become "tumultuous".

Posted by: nana4 | July 26, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

unpluggedboodah:

Where were you yesterday, scardie-cat?

Posted by: JakeD | July 26, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

We NEED a national discussion on racial profiling.
But this incident is NOT an example of racial profiling!!

Posted by: angie12106 | July 26, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Nana4 wrote: >>>>>Officer Crowley states he did ascertain that Gates was the owner of the home. At that point, he should have left. His mission was accomplished.

Crowley did leave - and the situation was resolved. But Gates followed him outside, shouting and ranting that the cops didn't know who HE is.
iow - Gates thought himself too important to be questioned by the police.
Gates CONTINUED IGNORING the cops MANY warnings to stop yelling and disturbing the neighborhood.
When Gates defied the cops and continued his disorderly conduct - he was arrested.

iow - Gates WANTED to make news.

Posted by: angie12106 | July 26, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

For such allegedly brilliant men, Obama and Gates sure don't have much aptitude for choosing the right words. As far as I can tell from one white cop, one latino cop and one witness, all are saying exactly what the photo depicts...Gates is a jackass.

Which leaves us with the conclusion that the two really, really smart guys are the only ones involved who truly "behaved stupidly".

If Obama wants this to be a "teachable" opportunity he better start in his own head. He judged the white cop entirely by default, period!

Obama needs to put up with a forthright apology, or shut up about racism altoghther. It is plainly alive and well in his perceptions since the only real way to counter racism is to treat ALL PEOPLE EQUALLY.

Clearly, he did not do that at all.

But, no he does not need to "beg" for forgiveness as Gates requires from Crowley.
That of course, would mean that Gates had achieved his much sought after agenda of superiority.

Posted by: artyanimal | July 26, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I see on page 2 of the police report, Officer Crowley states he did ascertain that Gates was the owner of the home. At that point, he should have left. His mission was accomplished. The fact that he stayed, kept pushing the issue, had 2 more police officers enter the home, and then had the man step outside so he could handcuff him and arrest him because he was being "uppity" and verbally protesting the literal invasion of his home for no just cause, is a sign of the officer's personal hubris. That is the source of the entire conflict. This excellent officer did not use all the good training and professional judgement to just leave the scene once his job was done and, whether from racism, self pride, abuse of his authority, or whatever, he created the conflict and escalated it. Because I suppose he knew he would have the support of every police organization in the area to cover for him. That is a problem for me. The incident was mishandled and the follow up was mishandled and neither instills much confidence in those police officers, as far as I am concerned. Everyone commenting is a little bit right and a little bit wrong. Many comments in support of the officer are technically correct in theory. Our first response should be deference and compliance our of respect for who they are and what they are doing. Even if they lack good interpersonal skills, technically, there is a point, such as in this case, when their job was finished and they ALL should have left. We know there were at least 5 officers present "on the scene" to, ultimately, harrass this citizen in his own home, which is, unfortunately, what it boils down to. The police dept could have done their investigation of themselves, since they already had dropped the charges, privately counselled Crowley, made a brief public statement, met with Gates and done what the President is going to do, meet with both and resolve the issue. All the training and classes in the world cannot change the attitude, personality, and behavior of an arrogant police officer who has bully instincts, whether it is a traffic ticket at 3am or anything else. I would have preferred to see that show of force at the press conference on the streets safeguarding the public from harm. And, in the end, the only person who has come anywhere near apologizing for something, is the President. He was correct in his comment about the arrest being behavior gone stupid. If the same thing happened to you, whatever is the color of your skin or the color of the investigating officer, you would think it stupid, too, and you would be outraged and, possibly, be very "tumultuous".

Posted by: nana4 | July 25, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

There are so many different versions of what is believed happened. And then there is the exhortation to "read the police report". Well, I am not so sure I would believe all the versions on this site or the police report version. The comments by the police officer since this incident and the person he displays is one of a very stubborn, arrogant, close minded person who felt he had to volunteer that he had not voted for "him"....and the assembly of police organizations, etc, at this morning's press conference does not give me cause to believe their report, either. Because no matter what all went down, whether it was racial profiling or not, whether the old professor was tumultous or not, the crux of the matter is that 1) there was no burglary and the officer should have left after determining that; and, 2) the arrest charges were dropped. Precisely because the officer is such a great understander of race relations and has been trained and is, himself, a trainor, he should know all about conflict, de-escalation of conflict, and he should have turned around and gone to his car, leaving the tumultous professor to himself. He had the authority; he had the weapon and the uniform; he could do whatever he chose to do. He chose to react personally rather than professionally. I am inclined to believe he has done this before, that is, throw is weight around and get by with it. This time, he could not, in the end. That gaggle of police at the press conference this morning was pretty intimidating; unfortunately, they all looked like bullies. Those of you who are so critical of the President, it is just something else you can rag on him for. I, white, 66 yrs old, female, happen to agree with him. I expect the police officer to have taken real control of the situation and walked away once his mission for which he was sent there was completed. I was stopped in my driveway at 3am, coming home from staying 3 hours over on the evening shift as an RN some years ago, for going 5 miles over the speed limit on the little street that I turn off to get to my home. It was pretty scary and I felt like I was treated like a criminal. I do not open my door to policemen ever, even if my home alarm goes off in the middle of the night and they come to my front door. And we were both "white". There is racism, alright, lots of it since Jan 20, 2009, in cartoons, "jokes", commentary, etc., and this just gives some who are having such a terrible time with this elected President, will have a field day with this. But, I appreciate the President's remarks. I speak from empathy of my own experience. I would have liked to have someone with his clout stand behind me back then, after I had spent the previous 15 hours taking care of very sick people, one of whom could have been a policeman, and was just trying to get home, inside, and to bed in my own home.

Posted by: nana4 | July 24, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama's reaction is really "empathy" in action; he responded the way he would like the justice system as a whole to respond. Just like he wants Sotomayor to respond.

In this case Obama doesn't need to know the facts of the case.

All he needs to know is that Gates is black and the officer is white.

Obama can reflect on the many times he has been hasseled by the heat, he can relate to how Gates feels about being hasseled by the police.

Since the policeman was white he was wrong to hassle Gates.

That's all Obama needs to know. Based on his "empathy" for Gates Obama can tell the world how "stupid" the Cambridge Police are.

Posted by: krankyman | July 24, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse


HEADLINE

Obama takes time out from Presidency to settle local racial squabble. Finds local white policeman guilty of stupidity.

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Posted by: Billw3 | July 24, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Waterloo will not be his health care plan. His Waterloo is getting involved in the Cambridge confrontation, showing his obvious racial bias. He is using his station to change this country and we should all be very afraid.

Where is Hillary Clinton when we need her most? Maybe in 3 1/2 years. Hopefully in 3 1/2 years.

Reporters are required to email their questions into the White House the night before the press conference. Obama obviously knew the question Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun Times would ask and he had his answer ready. Poor judgment.

His anger showed. We saw his lack of statesmanship at this moment.

Posted by: Kansas28 | July 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I was listening to an interview of the arresting officer (Crowley), in the Prof. Gates case, on a news report the other day and I couldn’t believe my ears. I think he (Crowley), in the interview, said something to the order of "...the president shouldn't wade in on local issues"--huh?? Is Crowley an exchange student, is he from America? News brief Crowley, the President (ie. the federal government) has been "wading in" on "local issues" since the inception of the country and its constitution. The president has an obligation, and it is his constitutional duty to "wade in" as he sees fit....

Posted by: qwer1 | July 24, 2009 2:27 PM
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Please go read the original version of the Constitution, specifically the enumerated powers section.

Originally the Federal Government had no power over any "local" situation as long as the "local" situation stayed within the borders of a state.

Originally the Fed Government had no police powers, no authority to incarcerate anyone, no right to tax etc. The only powers the Fed Gov had were those specifically named in the Constitution.

This is no longer the case. The Fed Gov has continued to arrogate powers to itself over the past 100 years.

So in this case the President may, as a private citizen express his views, but as a Government Official he should have kept his big, fat, mouth shut.

Sadly, Gates isn't the only dim bulb in this situation. We can now add the president to the list of the clueless.

Posted by: krankyman | July 24, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Birther, birther, birther nonsense. Birthers: Kenya is a corrupt country. Surely you can send spies there to buy a copy of his birth certificate. Go for it and report back when you have something.

I'm hopeful Obama's people will rescue him from this Gates nonsense and then he can focus on his projects, which, if he succeeds, will mark him as a very productive president, even if the whiners on the right think we now live under socialism. The man is actually trying to do something and naturally that generates opposition.

Posted by: Matthew_DC | July 24, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse


post_reader_in_wv said:
"If Obama is not re-elected, let it be over something substantive, not two angry men's hurt feelings"

Obama showing that Wright's teachings took hold is substantive.

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Posted by: Billw3 | July 24, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm POSITIVE that Obama wishes he had a "do-ever" on this one. He should have let it go. And Prof. Gates and the officer should have let it go in the first place. DUH!

That said, this is a tempest in a teapot. Why is this news?? (Actually I do know the answers, but none are at all satisfying). Those seeking to make political hay need to get a sense of proportion regarding this issue. The press conference was about HEALTH CARE, for crying out loud. Bill Kristol's bone-headed opinion piece yesterday seems to have ignored that point.

I think we are becoming ungovernable. People on both sides of the political divide seem to care less about rational dialogue on the issues than lying in wait for the person(s) on the other side to commit some minor gaffe, which then embroils in peripheral sideshows. Remember the "lipstick on a pig" spectacle from last fall's campaign? Was Obama insulting Palin, was Palin insulting Obama? WHO CARES!?!?!?

I have no doubt that Prof. Gates and the Cambridge cop both were highly incensed. But are we supposed to match their emotional involvement by convulsing as a nation over this?? Please! Get a grip, people, and a sense of proportion! Somebody commented here that "it's over for Obama." Really? If that's true, we are in a very bad place. If Obama is not re-elected, let it be over something substantive, not two angry men's hurt feelings. Geez.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | July 24, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone gone to see a Russell Crowe movie since he threw his cell phone at the hotel clerk's head? President Obama's remarks at the press conference were his cell phone moment -- a powerful man (the MOST powerful man in the world) striking out at Joe Public. And when he's called on it, the expresses "surprise" at the controversy. Amazing!

Posted by: harry9 | July 24, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Failure to arrest a president who does not comply with “natural born citizen” required by US Constitution when Barack Obama admitted his father was a Kenyan citizen and he was adopted and lived in Indonesia and lived as a citizen there, that is racism and racial profiling in reverse. Black or white, a president who hides his identity records is dangerous. The law says he has no right to be in office.

Posted by: MarieDevine | July 24, 2009 2:02 PM "

MarieDevine, your nonsense about the president not being a natural born citizen shows that you are a true American idiot. Did you not see his birth certificate, factcheck.org, the birth announcement, the verification from the Hawaii Health Department etc? Or do you just chose to continue to bleed crazy? People like you show that we need MENTAL health reform. YOU and your autistic ways have sent this country down a drain. Yes, I think you are a retard. As a matter of fact, I think you are an insult to retards. If being an idiot was a crime, then you would be in jail!

Posted by: wrq7iop | July 24, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Failure to arrest a president who does not comply with “natural born citizen” required by US Constitution when Barack Obama admitted his father was a Kenyan citizen and he was adopted and lived in Indonesia and lived as a citizen there, that is racism and racial profiling in reverse. Black or white, a president who hides his identity records is dangerous. The law says he has no right to be in office.

Posted by: MarieDevine | July 24, 2009 2:02 PM "

MarieDevine, your nonsense about the president not being a natural born citizen show are a true American idiot. Did you not see his birth certificate, factcheck.org, the birth announcement, the verification from the Hawaii Health Department etc? Or do you just chose to continue to bleed crazy? People like you show that we need MENTAL health reform. YOU and your autistic ways have sent this country down a drain. Yes, I think you are a retard. As a matter of fact, I think you are an insult to retards. If being an idiot was a crime, then you would be in jail!

Posted by: wrq7iop | July 24, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Hispana's assertion that Gates has made his life out of race baiting shows real ignorance of the nature of his work.
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Please show me the facts. I don't see anything in his history where he has done anything constructive to unite us all!!!

Posted by: Hispana | July 24, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

First of all, to anyone who thinks Obama was caught off-guard by the question: Balderdash. He arranged beforehand for that reporter to ask that question, and at that final point in the press conference. Whether it was a deliberate attempt to deflect attention away from the health care debate is beyond my personal knowledge - so, unlike the President, I will not precipitously opine - but is beside the point. Obama wanted and got the opportunity to say what he said.
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I totally agree with your point here as this reporter evidently staged this question as a way to derail the fiasco of this press conference and the fact that health care will be his nightmare. Obama has totally miscalculated because this gaffe will be very costly.

Now his police officers are going to think more carefully in supporting him.

How dare this race baiting professor take advantage of a situation using the race card and playing the victim? Note that the neighbors are giving details that are quite different from this man.

We know that there is police abuse and brutality as there is rampant crime that is committed and more prevalent in black communities. The facts as they are unraveling show that this police officer was just doing his job and if Mr.Gates decided to be unruly he deserved to be arrested.

Posted by: Hispana | July 24, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Hispana's assertion that Gates has made his life out of race baiting shows real ignorance of the nature of his work.

Posted by: Hummon1 | July 24, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I was listening to an interview of the arresting officer (Crowley), in the Prof. Gates case, on a news report the other day and I couldn’t believe my ears. I think he (Crowley), in the interview, said something to the order of "...the president shouldn't wade in on local issues"--huh?? Is Crowley an exchange student, is he from America? News brief Crowley, the President (ie. the federal government) has been "wading in" on "local issues" since the inception of the country and its constitution. The president has an obligation, and it is his constitutional duty to "wade in" as he sees fit. When it comes to the President, the entire country is his domain--from Bangor, Maine; to Puyallup, Washington; and all places in between--even those nano-sized towns that can barely fit a Wal-Mart within their city borders, that is the Presidents domain as well. Nothing within the US is a "local" matter when it comes to the executive office--all is relative. Besides, what type of place does he (Crowley) think Cambridge, MA is? Does he think it's a fiefdom or maybe he thinks it's a kingdom? Does he believe that he is the feudal lord of Cambridge, is that it, he's lord Crowley? Well lord Crowley you might be trapped in the wrong era, because here we don’t make comments that, in a nutshell, the president needs to mind his business because this is "our" issue. That type of rhetoric is the fuel for sedition, and the seeds of secession. It wasn't too long ago that the South voiced the same opinion of "mind your business" when the President urged them to restructure their economic base (cease the use of slaves). They too believed that the President was "wading in" on a "local issue" that he knew little to nothing about. So, Crowley should be reminded that his position in the pecking order is not of feudal lord, but of a citizen, a citizen tasked with keeping the peace.

Posted by: qwer1 | July 24, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Why did the cambridge police drop the charges? I mean, if you take the precious man hours to arrest someone, detain them for hours, get mug shots, why go to all that trouble just simply drop the charges later. Man that's "stupid" waste of time.

Posted by: AB68 | July 24, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I applaud the Cambridge Police for their statements and support of the Police officer. And the Mayor, a black woman, also supporting her team.

Obama unraveled and let us see a glimpse of his real persona: a radical activist. He showed total lack of leadership by polarizing and forgetting about consequences. He forgot that this team is also part of his team. His stubborn attitude thereafter is even more reprehensible.

And now I am hearing stations like CNN and MSNBC litting a fire. Comments by Tony Harris of CNN are reprehensible and demonstrate to us the partisanship and bias in these stations.

What happened here was nothing more than an individual becoming unruly and disrespectful and using race to taunt others. For such an educated man, he should have used a bit of intelligence to fully identify himself and thank these officers who came to investigate this call.

The golden rule that most of us know is that when we are approached by a police officer:

1)We are courteous
2)We follow what they ask
3)We resolve any differences later

This professor is a racist and has made his life out of race baiting and evidently he was itching for a fight. I wonder about his true motives!!!!

What a shame that we have a President that cannot use his head as we expect!!!

Posted by: Hispana | July 24, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse


Obama's anti-American friends:

Bill Ayers
Jeremiah Wright
Henry Gates
Rashid Khalidi

From the LA Times 4-10-2008:
"A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking."

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Posted by: Billw3 | July 24, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Yet another example today of Fox Nation’s misleading headlines – “Obama Defends ‘Stupid’ Cop Comment.” Fox Nation is using the word as an adjective. Obama used the word “stupidly,” as an adverb, to refer to the action taken by Cambridge Police when they arrested the well respected scholar, Harvard professor, Lewis Gates. Fox Nation has been doing a number of Gates threads and, not surprisingly, the comments range from ignorant to very biased. Many of the posters don’t even seem to know that Gates showed his identification. One poster said that Gates and his driver fit the description given by the caller – two black men with packpacks (???). Most of the “Nation” feel that Gates was being “uppity” and deserved what he got. There is a lot of talk about “reverse racism” with regard to the reaction of the black community. I haven’t seen commentary about racial profiling; but obviously Fox Nation is so enveloped in its biased whiteness that it cannot understand that racial profiling is real. One comment said that whites cooperate with cops more than blacks. (Can you imagine how a Fox Nation resident would react if questioned by a black officer!?) But the “buckwheat” comment speaks for itself. Remember when conservatives were upset about terms that liberals used for Bush ? But now, Fox Nation – a place for “mutual respect” – accepts not only insulting, but a racist term for our president. Why does Fox Nation hate America?

Posted by: sherardg | July 24, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Ahh, 'empathy'....instant, obvious, and with no knowledge of fact. So good to see that in action.

Posted by: recon1 | July 24, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"It has also emerged that Sgt Crowley has taught a racial profiling class at the Lowell Police Academy in Boston for five years with a black colleague and was handpicked by a senior black officer for the role."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5902222/Cambridge-police-demand-apology-from-Barack-Obama-over-stupid-comments.html

Posted by: Matthew_DC | July 24, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The police were called for right reason; that is agreed by both sides. What got out of hand is Professor Gates’ attitude which shows in his arrest photos with three officers, one black. That is not racial profiling. It was lack of respect for police. He swore at the officer with foul language, probably not spoken quietly. The officers had the responsibility of seeing that the one pushing the door in was supposed to be there whether he had it as his address or not.

The problem with “racial profiling” laws and “hate crime” laws is that it makes the victim of arrest or attack the right one and the other the wrong one regardless of provocation. False arrest or assault is enough charge to satisfy any legal matter.
Failure to arrest a president who does not comply with “natural born citizen” required by US Constitution when Barack Obama admitted his father was a Kenyan citizen and he was adopted and lived in Indonesia and lived as a citizen there, that is racism and racial profiling in reverse. Black or white, a president who hides his identity records is dangerous. The law says he has no right to be in office.

Posted by: MarieDevine | July 24, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Call it "Gatesgate".

It is over for Obama. Folks have been waiting and waiting for an opportunity to pounce on him, to see if he supports a brother without any information, just automatically as a knee-jerk reaction.

He did. And all the liberals who thought he was going to heal the nation, now know they were wrong. People will give him a pass on everything else, but not this.

Police don't expect a learned Harvard Professor Scholar to shout over-the-top rants at them. Learned Harvard Professor Scholars are supposed to use their superior intellect and tact to defuse any situation to their advantage.

Gates just wanted to get arrested, to be a martyr for "the cause".

Obama obviously doesn't know how incredibly damaging this is. A member of the establishment doesn't trash another member of the establishment. "Professional courtesy" is often how it is put.

It is a subtle change, and will probably go mostly unnoticed, but police, white liberals, etc. are all going to look at Obama differently. Obama undercut authority instead of instilling confidence. That is not good for anyone aspiring to leadership.

Posted by: oracle2world | July 24, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Only those who have ever be detained or ticketed by cops for absolutely no other reason than that they are black or brown would truly know how it feels. so back off you know it alls. I was just like you until it actually happened to me and my husband. The cop got off scott free. We were fined $180.00 on made up charges and the magistrate backed the cop without reviewing all the facts. Iam afraid this is a very real problem, and needs to be dealt with. Next time just excercise your mind a little if you have one and ask yourself how you would feel? it was a very traumatic experience for us and we will never forget it.

Posted by: chandragupta | July 24, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

''[I]t is well understood that the right of free speech is not absolute at all times and under all circumstances. There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or 'fighting' words--those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.‘”

--Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942)

Posted by: blarsen1 | July 24, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

This officer needs to explain to the nation why he stayed around the professors house --when the professor clearly showed he lived there. Being in your own home is not a crime! This officer better an good explanation or a quick resignation. Enough with police tyranny!

Posted by: wrq7iop | July 24, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

First of all, to anyone who thinks Obama was caught off-guard by the question: Balderdash. He arranged beforehand for that reporter to ask that question, and at that final point in the press conference. Whether it was a deliberate attempt to deflect attention away from the health care debate is beyond my personal knowledge - so, unlike the President, I will not precipitously opine - but is beside the point. Obama wanted and got the opportunity to say what he said.

The larger problem, in my view, is that by deliberately injecting himself into this debate the way he did, Obama risks doing his Presidency significant harm. As the discussion of this event makes clear, Obama by his comments gives rise to the critique - arguably well-founded - that he is at bottom line "their" President rather than "all of our" President.

Posted by: nan_lynn | July 24, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I absolutely agree with the President's comments on the matter and I appreciate his candor when most politicians simply hedge the issue and don't actually state what they mean. Now, enough already and let's move on, and get back to health care.

Posted by: camille2 | July 24, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I think it's fair to say that the President acted stupidly when he decided to talk about something other than health care at a press conference on health care.

Clinton did the same thing, talking about gays in the military. I voted for Obama, but I think the idiot may have just scuttled our chance at real health care reform, and if it isn't done by the next election, then the idiot will lose my swing vote. It looks like we'll have to wait at least 8 more years (Obama's term, 1 republican term) before real health care reform from someone (a new Democrat) who has less of an ego than B. Clinton or B. Obama.

Posted by: prokaryote | July 24, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Obama:

Arrogant, naive, and a racial profiler.

Posted by: AWWNats | July 24, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

This really isn't about race. It's about a cop allowing a situation to get out of control. Obama is right, that cop "acted stupidly". Once Gates presented his ID proving he was in his own home, the cop should have politely thanked Gates for his time, turned around, and walked away; his job there was done. The cop is most likely an excellent officer, who is apparently very concientious about his work. He just needs a refresher course on being a member of the community in which, and for which, he serves. Cops are always citizens first.

Posted by: KJR1 | July 24, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama was correct. The cop did act stupidly -- the cop has the training to know when to walk away from a harmless hothead. Instead, the cop's ego got hooked and he made an arrest that was, frankly, stupid.

Obama was stupid too. He didn't need to step into this. Any idiot could see that this was a no win situation.

The Professor was stupid. He let his emotions take over and got himself arrested for no reason.

The media is stupid for spending its energy on this issue when the world is falling apart.

A plague on all of their houses.

Posted by: RadicalGlove | July 24, 2009 12:46 PM
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I think you have the best answer I have read. And I only read a few because its all so stupid.

Funny. This was a press conference on something important called Health Care and it turned into a race issue. Why on earth they that reporter asked this question and why on earth did Obama answer it?

Posted by: sherardg | July 24, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Being a lawyer, Obama should have reviewed the facts before issuing an opinion. Free speech has its' limitations, even if you are on your own property. Given the racial element, this is a very touchy matter, but there are Supreme Court rulings that may back up the officer in this one. I am an Obama supporter and I think it would be best for him to apologize to the police officer and being a law professor, he should explain why the First Amendment is not inclusive of ALL free speech.
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Hateful and vile speech are protected, causing danger or overthrow of the government is not if you review precedent.

Posted by: jameschirico | July 24, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Stupid? The greatest stupidity in this whole affair is the fact that a seated American President would show such poor judgement in taking a position before having any knowledge of the facts. And that judgement is further impuned by his inability to recognize such and offer an apology for pre-judging the police. Mr President, offer your assessment when the facts are in. You are supposed to set an example, not be part of the problem.

Posted by: donchew1 | July 24, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I suspect the next time the home alarm goes off in Gates house it will have a very slow police response.

On the other hand the cops in PGC shot first, twice and three times BEFORE they ask yo questions.

Obama needed an issue to divert from healthcare and this is it.

Posted by: KBlit | July 24, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Common sense told the officers Gates was not the perpetrator. Gates immediately jumped to the wrong conclusion of racial profiling and baited the Sgt. with a vile ranting verbal attack. The Sgt. teaching a community relations class should have said sorry for the mistake, we had a break in reported and it would have ended. The fault lies with two hardheaded individuals that think they are right when both are wrong. There is something called the first amendment that protects even vile speech and the fifth broken by asking Gates to come out without probable cause, let him bait the Sgt. into arresting him. They should apologize to each other and get on with their lives ending this media circus.

Posted by: jameschirico | July 24, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

This so-called controversy and the birther folks stems from one reality: the U.S. has its first black President. The comments above show how many people don't listen and quite frankly are unintelligent. Stupidly is an adverb describing the verb "acted," not the subject, the police. Its no wonder America is falling behind in every educational facet.

Also, for those who are not lawyers or judges, please do not comment about legal matters when you have no knowledge of it. I've read comments about what's legal and what's not. The fact is, you should not be arrested while in your home for tumultuous behavior. So everytime someone has an argument with a spouse, child, or friend in their home, that person can be arrested because their were loud. Now, if that is the standard, how many people who have commented on this site about the legality of the arrest would continue to take that position. Not many. You have a constitutional right to privacy in your our home and to be protected from unwarranted government intrusions. Just like people don't want the government coming into their homes to take their guns, no one wants the government coming into their homes to arrest them for yelling in their home.

Finally, everyone seems to omit the most important fact of the whole controversy: the charges were dropped. If Gates violated the law, why wasn't he prosecuted. If the arrest was justified, then he should have been held accountable. Because the arrest was not justified, the charges were dropped. The arresting officer should have known that the charges would have been dropped. So in arresting Gates, the officer acted stupidly.

Posted by: adrobinson | July 24, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I have every right to raise my voice at a policeman who is stomping around my house without a warrant, especially after I show him proof that I live there. This is not a racial issue, but one having to do with the arrogance that some of our highly paid boys in blue unfortunately carry. The definition of a police state is that the uniformed one is automatically right and the civilian should watch out and kiss the boot that kicks him.

Posted by: opinionated4 | July 24, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

As I can see from the media, this police/professor debacle has really taken hold and pushed "healthcare reform" to the background where we may miss anything important which may happen.

As I said yesterday, this has been carefully orchestrated to have just that effect and it has been quite successful. Look at this for what it is - a 100 percent genuine presdiential smokescreen to cover his poor performance when he really needed to hit a home run.

Let's get on the ball and get back to the healthcare issue and tell the Congress that reform is needed but that is should not be steamrolled through the House and/or Senate. Our legislators need all of the facts and, more importantly, the time to digest what is presented if they are to be able to make the right choices. And they should remember this is government of the people, by the people and for the people - not of Obama, by Obama and for Obama.

Posted by: apdseal | July 24, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama could easily extricate himself from this mess. His press guy could issue a statement that:

1. At the end of very long and difficult negotiations re: healthcare, the president was asked about his personal opinion on this case, an opportunity he used to speak on various issues.

2. The president made several valid observations about profiling and racism, which he thinks most Americans would agree with, and he stands by those comments.

3. However, the president regrets any offense caused by part of his statement, which included possibly ill-chosen words, and which may appear to prejudge the situation in Mass. or use the office of the presidency to dictate a resolution between the parties. He trusts that the parties will achieve a settlement to the matter which each considers just.

Then let Gates and Crowley fight it out in court if they want to.

END OF OBAMA INVOLVEMENT

Posted by: Matthew_DC | July 24, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Being a lawyer, Obama should have reviewed the facts before issuing an opinion. Free speech has its' limitations, even if you are on your own property. Given the racial element, this is a very touchy matter, but there are Supreme Court rulings that may back up the officer in this one. I am an Obama supporter and I think it would be best for him to apologize to the police officer and being a law professor, he should explain why the First Amendment is not inclusive of ALL free speech.

Posted by: blarsen1 | July 24, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse


With "friends" like Gates who needs enemies. Oh wait, that's Barry's pattern. Wright, Resko, Ayers, ACORN and only God knows who else.

Posted by: FraudObama | July 24, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

If you had white children, or black children, or brown children, would you want them sitting in a classroom with the hysterical, egomaniacal racist Henry Louis Gates? Or even the less hysterical Barack Hussein Obama?

Posted by: chatard | July 24, 2009 11:18 AM

This is just as bad as being a racist. In fact, these remarks are extremely racist.

Posted by: citigreg | July 24, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

For all the talk about the professor not supplying an ID, this cop COULDN'T EVEN GIVE HIS NAME AND BADGE NUMBER! This professor pays the taxes that pay this police officers salary--the officer needs to learn his place real quick.

Posted by: wrq7iop | July 24, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Apart from how the now legendary dustup between Messrs. Gates and Crowley ends, the enduring legacy of this incident will be the astonishing level of suspicion, misunderstanding, and outright hatred that still courses though the nation's lifeblood as evidenced by all the blogs.

Posted by: zephyr99 | July 24, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

I suppose if I were a taxpayer in Cambridge, I would be really happy that my money was being spent to deal with the actions of a cop who couldn't just walk away from a loud mouth who was in a bad mood. Gates was certainly an idiot, but arresting him was stupid all the same. Maybe the cop did have a lawful reason that gave him an excuse to teach a pompous Harvard jerk a lesson, but this whole thing is just a waste of time and money.

Posted by: daweeni | July 24, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if all the people who are criticizing the police know the whole story.
Did Gates have an ID with and address at Harvard? Did his ID have his address on it, that was the same as the house he was trying to enter? If not, the police were correct in their behavior.
I fault the incompetent in the White House for mouthing off when he didn't know all the facts.
Of course that never stops the arrogant dunderhead.
I thought Gates looked like a crook anyway.

Posted by: LarryG62 | July 24, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

For goodness sake, these policeman are just acting more and more ridiculous. They arrested a man in his own home, and so many whites are in an uproar because how dare a black man get uppity and challenge a white police officer. I am so ashamed to be white, and now ashamed of police officers who are so thin skinned because they did something wrong and now they are acting like Joe the Plumber and getting all steamed up to help their Republican friends and make a big story out of this for political gain. Well, we know there is abuse of power going on when a policeman does something like this and escalates it for the television cameras. For goodness sake the man was arrested for raising his voice to a policeman. I guess we can only whisper to policeman now for fear of a national political maneuver coming out of it. How pathetic that policemen have fallen so low.

Posted by: goldie2 | July 24, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama was correct. The cop did act stupidly -- the cop has the training to know when to walk away from a harmless hothead. Instead, the cop's ego got hooked and he made an arrest that was, frankly, stupid.

Obama was stupid too. He didn't need to step into this. Any idiot could see that this was a no win situation.

The Professor was stupid. He let his emotions take over and got himself arrested for no reason.

The media is stupid for spending its energy on this issue when the world is falling apart.

A plague on all of their houses.

Posted by: RadicalGlove | July 24, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

JB I have a concept of the law and any idiot can see that the guy was arrested for being in his own home. Yelling in your home is NOT disorderly conduct. If a crime was truly committed, then why where the charges dropped? A man was arrested for doing nothing wrong, and the police state marches on!

Posted by: wrq7iop | July 24, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

The more Obama speaks on this issue the dumber and dumber he sounds. He should just shut up! His big mouth and stupid comments made sure the health care agenda is dead.

Posted by: NewEra | July 24, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Any time an African American is arrested by a Caucasian police officer it is de facto racism. An African American perp should only be arrested by a committee of three police officers, one African American, one Caucasian, and one Hispanic or Latino.

Posted by: jazbond007 | July 24, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Of course, the Cambridge police is going to say the officer was following protocol. The fact of the matter is (regardless of the race of either party), the officer acted "stupidly". Even if the professor was screaming at the top of his lungs at the Officer, there was absolutely no reason to handcuff him and take him to jail. He was legally inside of his own home and he was not harming anyone. Since when did mouthing off (if he mouthed off) at the police a crime? The police wanted to show Professor Gates who was really in charge.

Posted by: bigeyes1 | July 24, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The facts are that the cop came, Mr. Gates didn't appreciate the way the cop approached him, the cop in turn didn't like the way he was responded to and Mr. Gates went to jail.
Who said what and how, we don't know.
The police reports weren't written by god, they were written by people who have a vested interest in their version of the incident and the same goes for Mr. Gates description of the incident.
As far as the 'racial profiling' & 'racism' of either man (Crowley and Gates) or the witness (Whalen), no one her knows what's in any of the subjects hearts. So we can't say what role it played in this situation.
The whole thing that I don't understand, why so many people are acting as if it is ok to have the end result be the arrest of a homeowner in his own home. When the owner didn't do anything wrong and it has been confirmed as his residence.
I know we have some 'strict constitutionalist' and 'libertarians’' on here who wouldn't agree with this action.
So the question in my mind is 'why would people who profess to be against the infringement on individual liberties take the side of the government?'
I am an African American, I like Mr. Gates. If it were anyone else it happened to (Mr. Goldberg, Mr. Garcia, etc.) it would still be an outrage to me.
I don't see that same feeling of outrage amongst the commenter’s here. Most are upset he 'mouthed off' to a cop. I don't get the vitriol behind this, if he had sharp words with the officer that would be covered under the 1st amendment.
I believe this is where the true racial problem takes place. We can seem to get past the tribalism and admit that certain things are common: Equal protection, equal rights and equal citizenship. I like many blacks agree with Mr. Gates because we can identify with the situation, as many Caucasians can identify with Officer Crowley and the negative stigma of being labeled a racist.
Being indignant, rude or abrasive IS NOT against the law, the same as doing your job doesn't make you a racist. If you take the racial undercurrent out of this situation and looked at the whole situation and the outcome. I think most would agree that a man should not be arrested in his own home or on his property for being loud or rude to a police officer in the absence of a crime.

Posted by: priceisright | July 24, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"What is so hard to understand about A MAN WAS ARRESTED FOR BEING IN HIS OWN HOME??? This police officer is obviously a hothead that wanted to play tough guy. Yelling at a police officer in your home is not illegal, and the police officer should have controlled his temper."

Thats not what he was arrested for. You have no concept of the law. BTW, one can be arrested for disorderly conduct in their own home. To say one cannot is false and something that those who seem to support Gates keep getting at. People can be arrested for disorderly conduct in there own home.

Posted by: JDB1 | July 24, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Stop licking the police boot simply because you enjoy who it stepped on. Down that road, sooner or later, it steps on you.

Posted by: washpost29 | July 24, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

This all boils down to whether or not you think people should defer to the police. You either think Gates should have been arrested for acting up, or you think that the cop should deal with the insults and such being thrown at him. I think this is a typcial situation where the cops exert force as a means to control people. The fact that the charges were dropped, to me, shows that the cops were in error, because if they weren't and Gates was remotely arguably guilty of disorderly conduct, the prosecutor wouldn't have dropped the charges, right? I don't think this has anything to do with race. I think it has to do with cops being trained to use their weapons and powers afforded to them as police officers as the only means to diffuse conflict. It's not illegal to hurl insults at people and the cops shouldn't arrest people just because they can. That's what this is really about. Whether or not the cops should be allowed to arrest people just because they can. Logically, the prosecutor dropped the charges against Gates, so the state isn't even accusing him of a crime. So why was he arrested and why are the cops still claiming they made no errors?

We live in a police state and it will get worse and worse until people realize that the cops aren't your friends. They are a deputized gain of power hungry meatheads. They have no respect for the law or the justice system. And that's to be expected because the court systems defer to the police as well. If you are speeding and a cop comes up behind you and tickets you, that means he has been speeding as well, and the police, contrary to what most people think, don't have a license to speed. They are only allowed to violate traffic laws when they are responding to emergencies while having their lights on. But try to use this as a defense in court "Your honor the officer has sworn to uphold laws, but in the course of protecting laws he routinely violates these same laws. Being that he/she has violated his/her oath to government, how can the court believe his/her testimony?" Not a Chance. That's what it boils down to, Should the cops be allowed to violate and abuse the law in order to control people, to control situations, to protect against law breakers?

Posted by: JoeMck | July 24, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

What is so hard to understand about A MAN WAS ARRESTED FOR BEING IN HIS OWN HOME??? This police officer is obviously a hothead that wanted to play tough guy. Yelling at a police officer in your home is not illegal, and the police officer should have controlled his temper.

Posted by: wrq7iop | July 24, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

The president showed what he is really about - nothing for people following the law. How irresponsible to make that kind of statement without knowing the facts. If a white individual makes a statement similar to that they are forever called a racist. Works the other way also. Gates was/is just looking for exposure. He has been exposed for what he really is now.

Posted by: mrcox54 | July 24, 2009 11:53 AM | Report abuse

If you had white children, or black children, or brown children, would you want them sitting in a classroom with the hysterical, egomaniacal racist Henry Louis Gates? Or even the less hysterical Barack Hussein Obama?

Posted by: chatard | July 24, 2009 11:18 AM

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you and your comment is racists.

Posted by: K2007 | July 24, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Jul. 22, 2009
Grand Prairie officers on leave after racist Obama e-mail circulated

By NATHANIEL JONES
njones@star-telegram.com
GRAND PRAIRIE — Four Grand Prairie police officers and a dispatcher are on paid administrative leave after a racist e-mail about President Barack Obama was circulated, and the local NAACP chapter is asking whether a recent round of diversity training was for naught.
The e-mail came from outside the department, but the officers opened and/or forwarded it, said Detective John Brimmer, a Grand Prairie police spokesman.

The department was "forced to go through diversity training two years ago, and this is what we get," Preston Dixon, vice president of the Grand Prairie chapter of the NAACP, said at a news conference Wednesday.

"Since they’ve gone through diversity training, then they knew better and should be fired," he said.

Dixon’s wife, a Police Department employee, has filed an unrelated discrimination suit against the department.

Police did not release the e-mail.

"These are some good officers who have worked at the department for a long time that made a serious lapse in judgment," Brimmer said. "You can’t do much about an unsolicited e-mail, but what you do after you open it is on you."

The officers appear to have violated a department policy that forbids employees from using city-owned computers for personal business, Brimmer said.

"Our internal affairs officer has looked at the evidence and has forwarded his findings" to Chief Glen Hill, Brimmer said. "It is up to the chief now to determine the appropriate disciplinary actions."

Posted by: K2007 | July 24, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

If you had white children, or black children, or brown children, would you want them sitting in a classroom with the hysterical, egomaniacal racist Henry Louis Gates? Or even the less hysterical Barack Hussein Obama?

Posted by: chatard | July 24, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse


catmomtx said:
"How refreshing you have a President that will give a response based on his feelings"

Yes, he showed his racial feelings.

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Posted by: Billw3 | July 24, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Obama stands by his comments because he cannot admit he is, at the end of the day, another Black man who is offended by every perceived slight issued by "white" society.

Apparently, he's not quite as "post-racial" as he thought he was. His knee-jerk, UNINFORMED, reaction is inexcusable. Even moreso is his refusal to say he may have spoken out of turn.

I will say this--he is rapidly coming to the point where his pathetic, hyperactive, insubstantial presidency will be rated as worse than that of Jimmy Carter. And it's only taken 6 months!

Imagine where we will be in another six months.

Posted by: jshaver001 | July 24, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Thank you Mr Obama: at least you got this one right. It was stupid to arrest someone in his home, even after knowing his identity. I know for sure this won't be done to a white professor ( indeed, no such incidence has happened to a white professor this date!). It is simply racism.
This problem of racism requires immediate attention because the US population is becoming more diverse (and nonwhite) with the inflow of new immigrants. All of us need to wake up to this new reality.

Posted by: joenalopez | July 24, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

When ever there is a emphesis on race, the strategy is to rally division, to get everyones mine off of the real issue here "unlawful arrest", homeland security act of George Bush and Cheney, this is to get our minds and focus off of the Big picture of Cheney and Rove getting ready to fall in their rape, pilleage, control by fear of us all, all races, including their own, we all have been kept in a form Slavery economically. People of all races are losing their homes, their jobs and health care. Do not fall for this strategy to get our minds off of what is really at stake hear. The President of the United States is an African American but serving the Whole for the betterment of all. He was asked a question and spoke what was on his mind on the matter, he has that right as his opinion considering the info he had. Many of us can read between the lines of what was reported by the Police, and MSM. Do they report all that happened, do they make their case look good for them, do they not make their case look as if they did no wrong? Does MSM report it to cause chaotic responses and stir up divisions based on their opinions? Does MSM report what should be the focus for the day. They want to focus on the race card, blow it up day in and day out to keep our minds on divisions, instead of getting us together in Unity and our congress to focus and work like hell in getting health care for all. Case Closed, lets start talking about all of the waste that is happening in Health care in America and demand that the MSM focus on that, there is a lot of it out there. Let's focus on those issues, lets investigate those issues and find the money to pay for Health care for us all. We all are One,like it or not that is the way our creator made it not one is better than the other, we let society form those opionion, get into your heart and listen, it feels for anyone who has befallen an ill fate or an injustice, just ask your heart about it and get the truth going in your formulation of the answer. We are all One for the common good that is the way of it. Lets get behind President Obama in getting Health care and economical recovery for ALL. Do not fall for the Racial divisions, Do not feed the Universe with this division, Feed it with unity and Love for everyone.

Posted by: Panthress1 | July 24, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Hey Barrack, perhaps if Gates had bad mouthed your mother like he did Officer Crowley's you would think differently,

This not about racism it is about the fact that one of your elitist Ivory league pals was a jerk to the cop and your pal got himself arrested.

The fact that the cop was white gave your pal Gates a opportunity to cry racism.

Does innocent until proven guilty only apply to Ivory league profs and not Blue collar cops?

Posted by: WashingtonTimesisBetter | July 24, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

i'm pretty sure that gates was not arrested for breaking and entering nor for being black..i think he was arrested for getting into the face of a police officer after being warned several times to back off..as citizens, we do not have the right to get in the face of law enforcement officials and act agitated..evidently gates felt privileged and able to do so..police officers face physical assault danger every time they interact with the public, and may seek to reduce that risk by asking someone to back off..gates refused to do so..he followed the officer closely out the door, and continued to act aggressively towards that officer..i have also read there were three officers present..a european-american (who teaches other officers how to avoid racial profiling, and is considered an expert in that particular arena), an african-american, and a hispanic-american..
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if that is so, why was only the european-american officer accused by gates..does obama suggest to all african-american males that it is ok to get in the face/physical space of leos everywhere
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i voted for mr obama and indeed had his campaign sign in my front yard...i am disappointed by his actions in speaking out as he did..i submit that his actions in saying the european-american offier acted stupidly were more stupid than the actions of the european-american officer and of gates himself..

Posted by: w04equals666 | July 24, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I watched a portion of the Obama news conference the other night. When he made that final comment, I said to my wife, "You watch. No matter how many million people his health care plan affects, that will be forgotten. For the next several days all the news outlets will lead with his comments about profiling."

Last night, ABC, NBC and CBS all led with the story. I turned the TV off.

I thought the Washington Post web site did about as good a job as I saw on this. After the news conference, while a sensational opinion-based web site like Politico had a sensational headline, the Post had a story (not the first on the page) which simply gave the whole text of Obama's comments.

Rather than jumping in and appealing to the desire we all have for something exciting and sensational, you all just printed what was said and let us decide.

I agree with a comment above. Probably everyone in the whole thing made mistakes--Gates, the policeman, and Obama in commenting as he did. It will be interesting to see how long this hoo-ha goes on.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | July 24, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

This is really stupid. Can I use the term "stupid" without knowing all of the facts, just as Obama has done? Can I say this is "racial"? Of course it is -- just that it's racial in reverse. What do I mean, you say? Well, Obama has assumed that the officer was (obviously) white so therefore his friend being black was being discriminated against. End of discussion -- I'm right because I'm the president. And my friend Mr. Gibbs will remind you that what you heard as "stupidly" did not mean the officer was "stupid", right?

Posted by: baltic | July 24, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

As and asiasn american, I am sick of racial profiling. I mean everytime I get pulled over by a cop they ask me a math question!

Posted by: GONATS | July 24, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Gates and President Obama have shown themselves to be the racists in this incident.

The abused police officer has an outstanding record of combatting racial profiling and is highly respected by all his associates regardless of race.

I expected more from Obama - but this incident makes me think we all made a big mistake. Promoting racism is bad....and those who do it should be held accountable.

Posted by: mgd1 | July 24, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Both were wrong but the cop took it to the next level and behaved inappropriately. The man was not a physical threat to anyone. If having a non physical (without the threat of becoming physical) disagreement is a reason to be taken to jail then I dare say a lot of you on this board belong in jail right now. both were egomaniacs but the one who had authority exercised it 'stupidly'. The department dropped the charges (no fine, no community service etc)further proving the arrest was unnecessary.

Posted by: justicejones | July 24, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

A man was arrested in his own home after showing proper id.
As the president said who would not be angry.
I don't care if your a liberal or conservative we have rights plain and simple and that should be the end of discussion.

Posted by: mmalewitz | July 24, 2009 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Will you people complain every time the President does something that may be perceived as helping Blacks or other minorities? Will you all complain that President Obama is a bigot every time he does something you don't like? Talk about being racist. I mean seriously who is being racist here? Take some time and read the comments here and on other blogs. For all of you trying to portray our President as racist are being racist yourselves. Get over it. Yes America did elect a black man as President. He will succeed despite plans to do everything that can be done to see him fail.

Posted by: catmomtx | July 24, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Face it people President Obama is a BLACK man plain and simple. Black men in this country have their own experiences with the police. Surely you don't expect that just because Barack Obama is President of the United States he is supposed to somehow forget he is black. He was asked what he thought of the situation and he responded. How refreshing you have a President that will give a response based on his feelings and not is what is politically correct.

Thanks to the media for blowing this way out of proportion and trying their best to make this racial. Honestly speaking if any of us were in that same position you would probably react the same way.

Posted by: catmomtx | July 24, 2009 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Well, I'm glad to see Obama modified is take on the event. Gates is a man of priviledge who made a scene with a police officer and then tried to claim victim status. Had Obama let his original (perhaps not fully informed) statement stand, the message would have been "every black man is entitled to get belligerent with a police officer" which I don't think is a very good message to send.

Posted by: RealChoices | July 24, 2009 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Clearly you think of yourself as an American because you are white, but "most definitely" the President thinks of America as "all nationalities".

"We" as Americans have never learned to take the high road on anything. We are forever preaching, but are never learning from our preaching. Are you saying he "talked" out of turn? For god sake, he is the President.

Posted by: sevendays | July 24, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Obama campaigned on being post-racial. Yet here he weighs in on an issue that he had no business addressing, coming down on the side of an African-American. Senators who are about to vote to confirm Sotomayor ought to take a good hard look at what happens when someone who has a questionable history campaigns as a different person.

Posted by: hipshot | July 24, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Alas, for the most part, among people of color, color comes first. Therefore, it is logical that the black Obama defends the black Gates and calls the white cop, stupid. Racism is, indeed, still rampant in America. It is not whites, however, who are fanning the flames.

Posted by: RetiredAnalyst | July 24, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Obama goes around the world apologizing for the mistakes of (white) America, but he can't apologize to (white) America for weighing in on an issue that he had no business discussing in public. Instead of calming racial discontent, he stokes it.

Posted by: hipshot | July 24, 2009 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Even if the President stated an "opinion" on the local case in Cambridge, the officer was wrong in arresting the Professor. For an officer teaching a course in racial profiling, he certainly did not read the teaching materials well. Certainly the Professor showed lack of judgement in continuing the heated conversation,(but what black person wouldn't in the face of past practice) but when the officer placed him under arrest, the officer then acted "stupidly". From the picture being shown of the handcuffed Gates, he seem to be walking out of his home and not being arrested on the sidewalk as alledged by the officer and his report. When Bush commented heavily on the Terry Schiavo case, it was accepted then for a President to comment on a very local case; but it's not ok for Pres. Obama? Which poster now has the attributes of a racial profiler? Officer Crowley should keep talking to the media and give the public a front row seat in him being a "jerk". His comments are now being used as incendiary words to continue to stoke the divisive fire in Massachusetts. Shut Up, already!!

Posted by: sevendays | July 24, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse


Any body who thinks officer was ok is a nazi.

Its 1st and 4th bill of rights violations

Gates showed his ID, - officer should have left right then (4th bill), but then the officer asked him to come outside - what I would have said then was; "I will come outside "IF" you go knock-up yo momma" (1st bill).

Posted by: ryan_heart | July 24, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Someone on the President's staff needs to remind him that he already has 100% of the liberal and black vote. The independent white voters in this country are the only audience he need concern himself with. Though there may be people among them who sympathize with the President's views, the chances of him doing more harm than good with this all important segment are infinitely greater.

His first mistake was to comment at all and now he feels he has to "stand by his remarks". His choice, but he treated the Rev. Wright issue in much the same way and was later forced to distance himself entirely from Wright. He shouldn't let that happen again.

Posted by: magellan1 | July 24, 2009 7:57 AM | Report abuse

I agree with the President - the officver acted stupidly and in a senseless manner. The Professor already identified himself, but the officer being white wanted to show superiority complex. If upper class blacks are being arrested and handcuffed , the lower-class blacks should expect to be shot in a similar situiation. The officer is also very indisciplined in having a war of words with the President. Who does he think he is - a common sergeant with limited education!!!!!

Posted by: toytaiwous | July 24, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Let the backpedaling begin.

Posted by: Disbelief | July 24, 2009 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Read the police report (@the smoking gun) and make the decision yourself. Did he follow the procedure appropriately?

Posted by: Junk123Yard | July 24, 2009 7:01 AM | Report abuse

"Gibbs also clarified that when Obama spoke of potentially being shot for trying to jimmy a door, he was speaking of the White House, which is heavily protected by the Secret Service, and not of his private home in Chicago or the Chicago police."

Good one, Gibbsy, so what Obama was saying was that if he were caught trying to break into the WH, he would be shot by Secret Service guarding it because he is a black man. Well at least he insulted the Secret Service instead of the DC Police. Nice considering those guys would take a bullet for him. Gibbs really is the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: joanne600 | July 24, 2009 6:44 AM | Report abuse

the president has far more pressing matters than to comment on a local law enforcement issue. What bothers me is the continuing practice of this administration and the democrats in general to play the race card over and over and over. If this is the supposed change that was voted for (NOTE: I did NOT vote for Obama), then it is only going to make what ever divide between the races even worse. Mr. President, keep your eye on the issues that matter, like not screwing things up anymore than you have and maybe, just maybe get your EGO under control. Grow up for the sake of this nation.

Posted by: upgp46 | July 24, 2009 6:25 AM | Report abuse

in november, lets send a message to obama, lets turn new jersey and virginia red...
show the house and senate that the people can throw those in power out if they don't perform...

Posted by: DwightCollins | July 24, 2009 6:00 AM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Post-Racial President:

As long as black Americans (which comprise only about 12 percent of the population) commit more than 52 percent of all murders in the United States, police officers are going to have (whether they express it or not) just a wee bit more suspicion when dealing with a black suspect. That's not being racist. That's being minimally observant.

If you want to change the world, how about starting a campaign to reeducate the black community to act in a more responsible and less violent manner. In other words, if we get our own house in order, we wouldn't have any problem whatsoever hailing a cab in NYC... unless it's raining, in which case nobody can find a cab.

Posted by: PauvrePapillon | July 24, 2009 5:53 AM | Report abuse

JakeD,
"To be fair, Bush commented on Terri Schiavo, a local probate matter."

Two wrongs do make a right for some.

Posted by: edbyronadams | July 24, 2009 4:56 AM | Report abuse

Obama is right, the US has a history of racism. Our later racist act was to vote him in. Let's vote him out.

Posted by: billisnice | July 24, 2009 3:09 AM | Report abuse

"Stupid is as stupid does." - Forrest Gump

The Cambridge police sergeant acted and spoke stupidly, ergo . . .

The President was (overly) generous in his remarks. I stand with President Obama.

Posted by: meldupree | July 24, 2009 2:37 AM | Report abuse

Are we the country that wants to show the world how the well-heeled among us behave?

In a non-combative/non criminal situation should we still look to the Peace officer as the one with the skills to navigate a delicate situation without tensions? At times I wonder..who is the professional in these situations?

Posted by: Victoria5 | July 24, 2009 2:08 AM | Report abuse

The president admitted he was "biased".

Now who is doing the profiling?

The more this man talks the dumber he sounds.

I though folks from Harvard were supposed to be smart.

Oops, there I go profiling...

Posted by: krankyman | July 24, 2009 2:04 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully the Gates situation, the Philadelphia swimming pool incident and thousands of African Americans being terminated from federal employment for engaging in the federal EEO process will finally put to rest the silly notion that since January 20, 2009, we are in a post-racial society.

www.blogbud.com/ptaylorntitle7

Posted by: PTaylor8336 | July 24, 2009 1:24 AM | Report abuse

Obama is truly a moron. Does this guy have a clue? He starting to sound more and more like his Reverand Wright. God help us if we have to put up with this idiot another 3 1/2 years.

Posted by: clintnreno | July 24, 2009 1:18 AM | Report abuse

No, I don't know Officer James Crowley as an individual, but from what I have read, know he's an 11 year veteran of the Cambridge Police Force with an impeccable record, and as I said teaches a course on racial profiling for the Force as a volunteer, and previously was an EMT that gave CPR to Reggie Lewis before he passed away. Seems like a good guy in my book. For the President to call him, and his entire police force “stupid” without knowing any facts, is stupid. Now please, no more Bush/Palin cheerleader comments.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 24, 2009 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Obama:

Your pal wasn't arrested in his own home, he was arrested once he followed the police officer outside to berate him and holler "Do you know who you're dealing with?"

What a dope you are as a president. Can't get the simplest facts straight.

Posted by: mediaskeptic | July 24, 2009 12:49 AM | Report abuse

These people defending this officer reminds me of all the republicans backing Palin

Posted by: genewebster | July 24, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

credibility ??

"...completely ruins any credibility you have."


You, standing up for a police officer that you haven't the faintest idea of what he's really like, except from what you heard, to me, is incredible.

Posted by: genewebster | July 24, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

so, Nixon was President, Agnew was vice president, Scooter Libby worked for a president, Tom Delay was a congressman, etc.

The guy showed no common sense--period.

Posted by: genewebster | July 24, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Why the heck are you so obsessed with Bush and Palin being cheerleaders? That has absolutely no relevance to this argument, and completely ruins any credibility you have.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 24, 2009 12:33 AM | Report abuse

That officer actually volunteered his OWN TIME to conduct anti-racial profiling seminars for the Cambridge Police. He’s a true American hero and officer, on the front lines everyday to protect the citizens of Cambridge. For the President of the United States to call him and his force “stupid” without reviewing the facts of the case, which were available to me as early as this morning, is despicable. The Fraternal Order Of Police, not just local Cambridge officers already issued a statement stating “Jim Pasco, executive director of the FOP's legislative office, noted that before Obama made the remarks, the president acknowledged that he was only vaguely familiar with what happened. That being the case, it's unfortunate that he chose to say anything," Pasco said. "He wasn't there, and he doesn't know what happened." Pasco said it appears that Gates was the "provocateur" because he called Officer James Crowley a racist instead of producing identification as requested.” The FOP is clearly siding with Crawley, and stands by his actions, as does the rest of the Cambridge police force. I just wish our commander-in-chief had the same respect.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 24, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

"What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?"

("did you know that both Bush and Palin were....
cheerleaders!")

"Nope, I did not, nor do I care,..."

(don't believe me?--look up the first quote on google)

Posted by: genewebster | July 24, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Obama's anti-American friends:

Bill Ayers
Jeremiah Wright
Henry Gates
Rashid Khalidi

From the LA Times 4-10-2008:
"A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking."

Posted by: Billw3 | July 24, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

"demoralized an entire police force."

that officer is going to get reviewed and if the entire police force in that town supports his actions, they will come under scrutiny too

Posted by: genewebster | July 24, 2009 12:09 AM | Report abuse

genewebster-

Yes, I read the full report early today to get educated and informed about the case, unlike the President did. It's online at the smoking gun, among other sites. Maybe you, like Obama, should have educated yourself before you made outlandish statements and criticized and likely demoralized an entire police force.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 24, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

"This is about an absurd, hurtful, and incredulous statement made by the POTUS that damages race relations in the US."

but earlier you said:

"Mr. Gates is the racist"

see, I don't understand how you can say these two things just minutes apart

Posted by: genewebster | July 24, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

genewebster-

"hilmerdm--

did you know that both Bush and Palin were....
cheerleaders!"
Nope, I did not, nor do I care, and nor do I find any relevancy about that in this post. Liberals such as yourself always like to bring up Bush and Pailn when it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the issue at hand. Again, it’s getting old. This is about an absurd, hurtful, and incredulous statement made by the POTUS that damages race relations in the US.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 23, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

"accusing in a public area"---do you mean HIS HOME?

and you read the report, when? today?

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I said what I really think. From the police report, which I read, and Obama obviously did not, Gates was acting in a disorderly fashion accusing in a public area accusing Officer Crowley of being a racist, screaming and disturbing the peace in his neighborhood (which there are several witnesses for), so Officer Crowley arrested him to calm the situation - not to be racist. End of story. Obama was foolish to wade into this situation.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 23, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

"...Fox news trounces the ratings..."

"...that seduced by the press and the masses..."


hmmm...

somebody seems to be 'seduced' by the ratings, hilmerdm

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

hilmerdm--

did you know that both Bush and Palin were....


cheerleaders!


Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Is it just because Obama is black that he was asked at his news conference, focused on Health Care Reform, about a local police matter from another city. Would the reporter have asked George W. or John McCain a question about the Gates arrest? Perhaps the report was "race baiting!"

Posted by: samtheromboneplayer | July 23, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

And yes, genewebster - I do watch Fox News. But not all the time. And guess what - Fox news trounces the ratings of all the other cable news stations, in all time slots, COMBINED. I'll agree Fox leans to the right, but in no way can you say that CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, and the "main stream" media haven't been suckers for Obama. The MSM has even reported that it's true. That's old liberal jargon. Give it up. I'm glad to have a conservative voice in the media - which, by the way, is killing in the ratings.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 23, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

hilmerdm--

you should say what you really think...


not some white washed version...

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Gates is the racist, not Officer Crowley.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 23, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

hilmerdm---

you don't watch Fox 'news', do you?

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

The only person who showed stupidity here was Obama. He doesn't know what's currently in the health care bill, and he clearly doesn't know what happened at this event in Cambridge. He's showing his true self, an inexperienced, unqualified, epic failure that seduced by the press and the masses in the last election.

Posted by: hilmerdm | July 23, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

What in the world are you Republicans complaining about?


you still have Palin to guide you and to lead you through all the turmoil

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 11:13 PM | Report abuse

I live in Baltimore City. A few years ago, an officer knocked on my door and told me they had a report of break-in at my address. He asked if he could come in, and then asked for my ID. He followed me upstairs to my room, and I handed him my license. After he saw it, he apologized for the inconvenience and asked if anything strange had happened. It turns out that the break-in was at 407, not 507.

It seems to me that Officer was following procedure. Keep the suspect in site, and then get the ID. Either that or it is a strange coincidence that 2 different officers did the same thing. The difference was that I treated my officer with the respect, not bile.

Posted by: cbm1 | July 23, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

edbryonadams:

To be fair, Bush commented on Terri Schiavo, a local probate matter.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama is an idiot. Every time he opens his mouth, he thinks he's inspiring humanity, when he's only showing us how little he knows.

I don't know whom I'm more embarrassed for: Mr. Obama or the people who voted for him.

Posted by: CR44 | July 23, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

The president should refrain from commenting on local police matters.

Posted by: edbyronadams | July 23, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

A silly "flap" that just enforces two well-known truisms:

1. Republicans will do anything to stall, derail or otherwise squelch progress that helps Americans.

2. The media will do anything to generate controversy and thereby viewership.

Fortunately America will survive, and thrive, despite the best efforts of both of these unpatriotic institutions.

Posted by: B2O2 | July 23, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Over the years there have been numerous occasions in which the law has defended the rights to defend one's home.
Of course these examples primarily involve white homeowners.
The police were extremely silly and power hungry to escalate this incident to the point where they invited Dr. Gates outside so they could shackle him
I am pretty sure that the negative reaction to Obama's comments would have been far different if Dr. Gates was white.
It seems that all the opposition to President Obama is premised primarily on the basis that we cannot allow a black president to succeed.Others might follow him.
This underlies the attempts in congress and the republican establishment to sabotage healthcare reform, oppose help to the banks( thereby lifting the economy), end dependence on foreign oil , etc., etc.
This is so even though all these policies will certainly help the average american live a better life.
If anyone really thinks we are postracial he/she should read the blogs whenever any news on a minority (political or sport ) is reported.
I am sorry for America

Posted by: nevillescarlett | July 23, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

hahaha the root is a racist joke

Posted by: obblehit | July 23, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

You know what's stupid? Weighing in on one side of a controversy after admitting you don't have the facts. THAT'S stupid.

Posted by: dexterpeabody | July 23, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Mr. President - I hope you knew the whole story before you commented on this situation. There are two sides to every story. Just as in a divorce situation you never take sides, as in this case please do not take sides until you know the story from both parties involved and you'll be surprised that possibly both could be at fault.

Posted by: MSCHILDRE | July 23, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama is trying to start a riot in the streets of America so he can call out the National Guard and be a Dick-tater. Will the military men of America fire on their families for OBAMA or all turn and fire on him the imposter and the DNC? WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Posted by: marianne5 | July 23, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Everyone should be asking if Obama would have made the identical comment had the officer been black and the professor white. I think not. Obama plays to the "race card" at every opportunity. Why? Because too many "stupid" people want to apologize for not being black. He knows people are afraid to challenge him - in almost every venue so they won't come across as being "racist." When oh when will people gain reason? Food for thought: Obama's numbers are falling. He HAS NOT delivered all he promised during his campaign. Transparency? Nah. All the other hype he spouted - NAH! Is it possible (and almost everything is) that this entire "incident" was contrived so Obama could play the race card yet again. This way - he thinks everyone will bow to whatever he wants (including turning America into a Socialist State). WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! USE YOUR BRAINS. NOW, THAT is a NOVEL CONCEPT. Quit buying into the hype. Dare to think for yourself. Dare to be an individual. Dare to be different. Dare to expect people to be responsible for themselves. Everyone in America can get an education - IF they want it badly enough. Blacks have NO EXCUSES for failure. I have made my way through life standing on my own two feet. I do not "expect" handouts. I was taught early in life that NOTHING in life is free. My father used to say, "if you want something - work for it. Then, it is yours and no one can take it away from you." Ooops - that was before Obama came along and thinks he is Robin Hood and can rob from those who actually work for what they have in order to give to those who expect handouts. Oh, but in Obama's internet address he said the jobs that have left America "don't pay enough." Well, A JOB is better than NO JOB. However, when you are not in touch with REAL PEOPLE (and he is not) you don't understand this type of thinking. Obama should be finding ways to convince American companies to bring jobs back to America rather than making stupid comments without facts. Oops. Obama does this a lot - if anyone every REALLY pays attention to what he says. Have a wonderful day folks!

Posted by: LiberteAPensador | July 23, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I am neither Rep nor Dem. I have just followed the careful scripting of every smoke screen move calculated to befuddle the American public by the President.

It is, after all, all about him.

Posted by: apdseal | July 23, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

For the record, a peaceful protest on the public sidewalk is not inciting hatred or racism and explicitly protected by the First Amendment.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 8:32 PM


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JC is going to give JakeD a big pat on the back when he arrives in heaven because JakeD will be arriving with more NRA sponsored cop killer bullets, and social Darwinistic corporate Libertarian beliefs than all the other fake christians.

Overview of JakeD’s first conversation with JC:

JakeD: Very happy to meet you Jesus, I’ve been waiting for this all my life. So when are going to start bombing the rest of the universe?!?

JC: Errr, you’re an idiot JakeD. You actually don’t get to stay here, I just summoned you to tell you what a misinformed, god slandering imbecile you are. No go hang out with your hero Satan……………………

Posted by: htruman | July 23, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Dear Republicans,
After eight years, we finally got a president with a brain. PLEASE just let him do his job, and quit bringing up stupid stuff like this to try to start a tempest in a teapot. I know, he's actually trying to help someone other than the rich, and you just HATE that. But c'mon ... we suffered through eight years of your guy. Give us a few months at least. Thanks.

Posted by: Sam888 | July 23, 2009 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Acting stupidly? Stupid comment? Those occur when you do not have all of the facts.

Think, however, of this. Perhaps the President knew his press conference was not proceeding along the desired path. As his "press conferences" are extremely well orchestrated it became time to extricate from the rambling sermon on healthcare. What better way to go to something totally unrelated which will create a firestorm in the media and take the focus off the fact that he failed. This may have been designed in advance as Mr. Obama's "out" question, enabling him to proceed off the podium with little focus on the important matter at hand.

Posted by: apdseal | July 23, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Acting stupidly? Stupid comment? Those occur when you do not have all of the facts.

Think, however, of this. Perhaps the President knew his press conference was not proceeding along the desired path. As his "press conferences" are extremely well orchestrated it became time to extricate from the rambling sermon on healthcare. What better way to go to something totally unrelated which will create a firestorm in the media and take the focus off the fact that he failed. This may have been designed in advance as Mr. Obama's "out" question, enabling him to proceed off the podium with little focus on the important matter at hand.

Posted by: apdseal | July 23, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

For the record, a peaceful protest on the public sidewalk is not inciting hatred or racism and explicitly protected by the First Amendment.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Good to see that everyone's favorite fake christian, JakeD, is back in mix

Posted by: htruman | July 23, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Everyone else:

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138
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You must be a highly educated individual to incite hatred and racism.

Americans are getting pretty tired of this old tactic. Don't you get it??????

Posted by: Hispana | July 23, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama's intervention re: Gates was a mistake. It can't be spun as anything else. A blunder. Now hopefully he'll drop it and choose his battles more carefully in the future.

He spent the whole campaign carefully projecting an image which would not scare away certain voters. Congrats to him. I didn't think he could pull it off. But he did, so well done. But he can't drop the ball now.

Posted by: Matthew_DC | July 23, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Why in the world would they cuff and arrest an elderly man with a cane in his own home? These guys certainly did act "stupidly". Police are just people and sometimes they screw up royally, and they should be called on it, or is this Nazi Germany?

Posted by: ironose | July 23, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

What a stinking disappointment Obama has turned out to be as president

Posted by: georgejones5 | July 23, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

From reading the posts, I think the "R" word may be the white equivalent of the "N" word. It provokes such outrage that it might eventually become a taboo word.

Posted by: Matthew_DC | July 23, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick and tired of people yelling about Baits getting arrested "inside" his home. Every detailed accounting I have read on this incident says that he was arrested outside after following the officer from within. Obama and Baits' defenders would do well by stopping their misinformation spreading as it makes them look foolish and disingenuous on all counts.

Posted by: BonnyBrown | July 23, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

That was a courtesy to the San Diego Visitor and Convention Board : )

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: You answered my question about the hotel

Posted by: JRM2 | July 23, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Everyone else:

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, JRM2, sorry that I can't answer your questions (as you know, you've refused to answer my questions previously, so I really can't make an exception for you and not "chrisfox8" and "koolkat_69"). Maybe, you should have thought about those consequences before now.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Barry, it's an important issue, keep speaking up on the topic! By the way, here is a bigger shovel!

Posted by: pgr88 | July 23, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, since I haven't the time to read the thread from beginning to end I may not see all of your numerous posts.

So, you being 3,000 mi away know that since Gates knows the Mayor that some underhanded deal to let a criminal loose was made?

Is that why you are going to protest?

Posted by: JRM2 | July 23, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

For a candidate whose campaign was widely praised by pros on both sides for its lack of errors and "message discipline" his administration seems to be faltering on a lot of fronts lately. I think the stress of the job is starting to tell on his team. Someone needs to get things back on focus. I think that would be Chief of Staff Emmanuel's job.

These was simply no politcial gain to be had for Obama to wade into this controversy.

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

"He fixed that by demanding all future money go to banks, who do not to lend anymore to Americans."
Dottydo
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Wrong thread, the thread about Goldman Sachs giving the tax payer a 23% return on TARP funds was last week.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 23, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

JRM2:

As I said, before, the charges were dropped because Professor Gates knows the Mayor. Next canard?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

If Gates was in the wrong then how come the Police dropped the charges?

Isn't that admitting that they were wrong to arrest him?
So maybe they did "act stupidly"

Obama gave a plea for some common sense, not a racial statement.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 23, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

would you like to be arrested for getting into your own house?

Posted by: genewebster
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Blame it on wife beaters not the police who are tring to figure out if this a possible Domestic Violence problem with a clearly poor impulse control kook.

Posted by: dottydo | July 23, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama's stands by his criticism...wasn't it originally that Americans spend too much and should stop living so well?

He fixed that by demanding all future money go to banks, who do not to lend anymore to Americans.

Can't wait to see how he "fixes" police department who take a poor impulse control in for cool down, and to look for restraining orders from any other possible occupant of the address.

Obama is the stupid one.
The US Constitution demands those sworn to uphold it, to not see color.

Looks like Obamaland isn't using that document, for it's Constitution.

Posted by: dottydo | July 23, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone else listen to the Cambridge Police Commissioner who defended the actions of Sgt. Crowley, saying he believed the sergeant acted "consistent with his training" and without racial bias?

"I don't believe that Sergeant [James M.] Crowley acted with any racial motivation at all," said Commissioner Robert Haas.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Henry Gates, Jr. is not a scholar -- in anyone's estimation.

Gates should have been arrested and given a 1 to 2 year prison term --- with absolutely zero - zip and zilch chance of parole.


Posted by: hclark1 | July 23, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

abqcleve:

I will be there Saturday (and I got the address from his fellow Harvard professor, Charles Ogletree, so don't blame me).

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

So first the right-wingers think it's OK to murder three Policemen in Pittsburgh because "Obama is coming for our guns" then they get enraged because our President calls out a cop for arresting a prominent elderly man who walks with a cane inside his own home.

Posted by: JRM2 | July 23, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

victorlove1:

Seriously, you are going to attack the neighbor for calling in someone (you think she had to have known was the resident) who was, in fact, breaking into the house? REALLY?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

JakeD, you've proven yourself a dishonest fool repeatedly on these boards, but this time you've outdone yourself. Your disgusting effort to show "support for the police" by publishing Gates' address is the height of trollishness. You, of course, don't live anywhere near there: you're just sayin' stuff. You won't be there on Saturday.

But that doesn't prevent you from a total lapse of judgment in inviting everyone to join you in front of Gates house for your little lynch mob, does it?

Cretin.

Posted by: abqcleve | July 23, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Both the republicans and the dems are barking up the wrong tree on this one!

The person who started this controversy is comfortably sitting in his/her living room
LHAO.

I find it hard to believe that the neighbor
who dialed up 911 did not recognize a recognized and prominent professor and member of their community.

There's more to this story than cops, obama
and an enraged citizenry, who among us does not recognize or know their neighbor?
I smell a movie,"If fences could talk"!

Posted by: victorlove1 | July 23, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

abqcleve:

I want to "stir up" support for the police, regardless of black v. Irish sentiment in a town with a terrible history that I don't live in. Next "stupid" question?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

as far as health care (to get off the subject)--

I'd like to see the contribution list (amounts of moneys given) of the lobbyists and to what group (representing which congressman)

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

So, JakeD, regardless of whether Gates or Crowley was or wasn't thinking clearly in the heat of the moment (or subsequently, given their latest refusals to turn down the heat), you want to stir up black v. Irish sentiment in a town with a terrible history that you don't live in, eh?

What a man.

Posted by: abqcleve | July 23, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

delfranklin4:

Everyone knows that Obama was asked the question. I think that people are wondering why he didn't say "No comment" or simply stop after he said "I'm biased."

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

The police report that was summited by the officer states they walked through the house to get Mr. Gates billfold off the table in order to get his ID. What criminal puts his billfold on the table in the kitchen?? The statement also says he told Mr. Gates if he wanted to continue this discussion then come out on the front porch.And there he was arrested for public misconduct..

Posted by: imcal101 | July 23, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I am not from Boston, and I understand the racial tension. Nonetheless, I will be there Saturday protesting.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Everyone asking why The President is commenting on this, it's because he was ASKED THE QUESTION BY MORON REPORTERS WHO WANTED HIS VIEW/ COMMENT!

It's obvious that there is a slew of uninformed, unintelligent, folks on here, whom of which can't seem to fathom that someone of color is now "Commander-in-Chief". He may or may not be the best choice, but he sure as hell is a lot more competent than what we've had the last 8 years.

White folks took this land from its rightful owners years ago, forced folks onto this land to build it up for them because of their lack of know-how/ artisanship, and have run this country into the mess it is now. Time for somebody else to "EXPERIMENT"!

Posted by: delfranklin4 | July 23, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Hispana:

I would be protesting even if Gates was white. What "race card" do you think that I am playing?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't often agree with Hispana, especially when she posts the same thing repeatedly all over the WaPo ;-) but she's exactly right. You've made a huge mistake, JakeD. Huge. Are you from Boston? Do you understand the history of race riots there?

Posted by: abqcleve | July 23, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Everyone else:

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138
--------------------------------------
When are you going to STOP using the race card? Please see my previous comments.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!

Posted by: Hispana | July 23, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Everyone else:

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house...
Posted by: JakeD
*********************

A lynch mob, eh?? Perilously close to inciting a riot, friend. You may want to reconsider you suggestion.

Posted by: abqcleve | July 23, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

would you like to be arrested for getting into your own house?

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Let's put 2 and 2 together here:

The reporter who asked this question is a Chicago buddy of Obama and I wonder why did she, being the last to ask, totally derailed this conference?

Obama needed an excuse for his flatlining this conference and grabbed this question as a way to incite the public knowing very well that using the race card will take focus of the issues at hand and stop the momentum that exists in opposition to the proposal. He is a master manipulator.

As our President and leader he certainly has to set the standard and for someone who should have great experience with racial issues, he must have known that he would set up a wildfire. He should know that there are millions of young individuals that could be affected by his comments.

Looking at the headlines today, he accomplished his mission as we have suddenly changed the topic.

So, frankly this illustrates more than anything, his total lack of true leadership and arrogance in making comments that can affect our progress in race relations. It amazes me that with all his education he demonstrated lack of control in throwing such a comment without full knowledge of all facts.

This situation could be one where the professor acted erroneously and should have exercised courtesy with the police officers who came to investigate a possible crime. The golden rule is that it is best that you are courteous in front of police offers, do not argue and any differences could be resolved later.

The time has come for all of us to recognize that using the race card will not give us leeway to get ahead and we need to stop being victims and having an entitlement mentality.

There are many emerging minorities that are as significant as the black population, if not more (Hispanics),and we need to understand that we are a nation of immigrants and we all need to recognize that it is only our efforts in hard work that will get us ahead!!! So let's all begin to put the race card behind and begin to use our merit and individual effort as our way to succeed in this country!

And let's get back to the issue at hand which is this horrible health care proposal that can seriously undermine our future!!!

Posted by: Hispana | July 23, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

At least you have plenty of strawmen arguments.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Sgt. Jim Crowley = the GOP's latest Joe the Plumber.

Posted by: abqcleve | July 23, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

yes, JakeD--

as if Gates was an officer, they two would have went out for a beer

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

genewebster:

I will, at least, agree that if Gates was white, he wouldn't have accused Crowley of being a racist. Next strawman argument?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

A case of police officers doing their job and this arrogant, prejudiced prima donna (Gates) can’t handle being questioned by a white cop and mouths off and gets exactly what he deserved. And now he blames all of society for his oppression. What a joke. What a jerk-off. And very disappointed in Obama for his ignorant remarks.

Posted by: lebron-tx | July 23, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the officer acted stupidly---

he just didn't use his common sense (as police officer are supposed to)--


and, my guess would be, if Gates was white--

it wouldn't have happened....

Posted by: genewebster | July 23, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

HockeyMike351:

Thank you!

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Why in the world would President Obama say anyone would be angry? Who would be angry that the police showed up because of a reported break in at your home. I would be greatful and expect the police to check me out to make sure that I lived there. I would not call them racist, insult their mother or tell them they do not know who they are dealing with as I chased after them.

Posted by: HockeyMike351 | July 23, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

So you come off an overnight, exhausting flight from China and find that your door is busted. You finally succeed in pushing in the back door, call the landlord to complain that the house is unsafe, and THEN a police officer shows up and demands that you come out of the house now. I challenge anyone, black/white/male/female/young/old/whatever to be cool and collected. I would have been very miffed. (I am a middle aged white female). It was the OFFICER'S responsibility to cool off the situation. He did not. That was stupid. Police are trained in this and he broke training. This was a non-story except for the OFFICER'S behavior. Obama was right to state that the officer behaved stupidly. He has to call out problems when he sees them or he becomes like those other "lying sacks of you know what" who lied to us for years about WMD, etc. Once the officer saw his ID (and what is the problem with a school ID?) then he should have backed off, asked if he needed help in securing his property, and left Mr. Gates alone. Period.

Posted by: cmmerkel | July 23, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Everyone else:

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

2greekdc:

You have read the police report, right?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse


Obama's racial concern overrode his judgment. It was not Presidential to make a comment about a policeman acting stupidly. He's in above his pay grade.

.

Posted by: Billw3 | July 23, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a dillweed. Gates is a racist. The cop is not a racist (he teaches anti-racial prodiling to other police officers and gave mouth to mouth resucitation to try to save Reggie lewis years ago) and was doing his job. Wait until the tapes are released (there are audio tapes of the incident).

Posted by: DaMan2 | July 23, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

As Obama stated, you have a middle-aged man that uses a cane, arrested in his own home.

That's pretty stupid if you ask me.

Posted by: 2greekdc | July 23, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Gates and Obama are idiots. A female called in. The cop had to respond. He was outnumbered per the call. It was a violent call in progress. He found a door jimmied and shoved in. The male resident gave only a school ID initially. He mouthed off and was uncooperative.

The belligerent Gates refused ID and demanded the officers instead of complying. The officer had NO idea who was a resident and if there was someone being beaten or robbed or about to come out. It was a volatile situation BECAUSE of Gates.

And if Gates had been in a domestic where the wife was laying dead, or hiding, and he didn't act, he would be disciplined and sued.

Yeah, the wives change the locks and hubby shoves in the door.

Plus Gates DIDN'T own the home-Harvard does and the property is managed by a company. He's just a tenant who pays no rent.

The dufus set off the Back alarm.

What an idiot.

The cop followed procedure perfectly, and an old angry Black man with a chip on his shoulder followed him out and caused an ugly and RACIST scene.

Gates is TOTALLY at fault.

Here's a report of a domestic, what cops face every day from minutes ago:


"Martin said Kathy Smith managed to get out of the room Wednesday night and ran into the lobby yelling for help.

“She was telling the clerk that she needed help — she had been kidnapped. We have two witnesses who were in the parking lot who heard her screaming,” Martin said.

Martin said the motel staff called police. He said witnesses told investigators that Michael Smith entered the lobby as police officers were arriving. When Kathy Smith ran to the restroom, Michael Smith followed and shot her before turning the gun on himself."


Yeah, every time we see two dudes shoving in a door the cops should roll by and say, Hi, how's it going, need some help buddy? Oh, you look SOOOO distinguished after boozing it up on an intercontinental flight. Why, Yes, My Mama is a racist and me, too. Thank you, Mr. Professor."

Or better, let's look over at a neighbor and conclude:

"Hey, Martha, QUICK! Get the camera. It's President Obama and the door appears to be jammed at that house where the door was jimmied. Get the kids and the camera! My, what diversity and insights this poor oppressed black man can shed for our Silver Spoon White Racist Kids and all. Heck. We are so lucky to run into him. Who woulda thunk he would be here in our high crime neighborhood! Golly Gee!!!!"

Posted by: member8 | July 23, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

jmcgill1:

Do you have a specific quote from his report you think is a violation?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

To: unpluggedboodah

Wow...I'd love a job eating doughnuts and beating black people. It sure tops working hard, paying taxes, contributing to my neighborhood, raising a family, paying my own way without (and in spite of) affirmative or any other kind of action, and trying to figure out what's going on in the minds in the Black community. Quick to judge - quick to be judged. Right on!

Posted by: ddnfla | July 23, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama needs to cut down on the caffeine or nicotine or whatever contributes to his shooting from the hip. Since he was not there he should not label any of the participants or their behavior. Who cares if Gates is a friend of Obama's. If he did not know Gates how would he have reacted? Obama needs to ensure that he firmly control any thoughts that could be labelled racial paranoia. As another commenter wrote - he is the President of ALL the people and when speaking as the President must remember that. Seems to me Gates almost wanted to escalate the situation. Why else would he fly into a rage? Maybe it was years of pent up frustration from when he WAS discriminated against as I'm sure happened on numerous occasions in his long life. But now, forget apologies and just move on everybody.

Posted by: deltadelta | July 23, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"I think we should start a legal fund for the police officer to use to sue the pants off Gates!!"

Yes, please. Force Crowley to testify that his police report is accurate, and then throw the book at him for all the egregious procedural errors and rights violations that he has already admitted to.

Posted by: jmcgill1 | July 23, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"Crowley has never had that type of problem."

I submit that letting Reggie Lewis die as well as arresting a prominent black academic in his own home are examples of problems.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Who says Obama doesn't know the facts? What is omitted in the police report? What details in the police report are false statements?

Think carefully before you claim that the police report is anything but the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, because anything else will end with Crowley stripped of his career in law enforcement, if not jailed for perjury and contempt.

If the facts are as represented in the police report, then the officer committed severe procedural error, at best, and serious civil and constitutional rights violations, most likely.

What's more, he's got the Governor of Massachusetts and the President of the United States going on record denouncing his actions.

Regardless of any other considerations, I hope he has good lawyers and I hope they are advising him to keep his big mouth shut and take a vacation.

Posted by: jmcgill1 | July 23, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

"To arms...."

LOL

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...since it's o.k. for Obama to "be a little biased" I'll take my cue from him and state that Gates was totally at fault and probably should have been shot. Woops...I guess I'm more than a little biased. Oh, well. We seem to have finally seen the real Obama - and turned down a dangerous road in terms of race relations. So be it! To arms....

Posted by: ddnfla | July 23, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Q. What do a heart attack and Sgt. Crowley have in common?

A. They both killed Reggie Lewis

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Obama like Bush II, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, etc. does not like to acknowledge making a mistake. I wonder if he wishes he had not made the "stupidly" comment though, as it has overshadowed the far more important subject of health care reform, which was what he was trying to promote, in the first place, with his press conference yesterday.

In a perfect world, where everyone behaved according to impeccable manners, this incident would not have occurred. However, as someone said, to err is human. People who are very tired or have experienced injustice or have the daily responsibility of protecting lives and property may often allow a situation to get out of control.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | July 23, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I want to know why Crowley let Reggie Lewis die. Learn to CPR.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Gates behavior sounds so bizarre it seems as if he became angry at something other than what the police enquired of him. Maybe Gates was embarrassed and a little afraid of the Sargent asking the "friend" some questions.

Posted by: sperrico | July 23, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Now I know you are a troll -- Sgt. Crowley valiently performed CPR on Reggie Lewis -- that's not "letting him die". I've been on the Civilian Board overseeing police here in San Diego, so I know there are problem cops, but Crowley has never had that type of problem. Those of you trashing his good name, simply because Obama did, should be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The police report ,the officer summited, states he walked through the house to the kitchen to get his billfold off the table and showed his ID. What criminal leaves his billfold on the table? the officer admits he keep telling him to come out on the front porch and then he was arrested for disorderly conduct.

Posted by: imcal101 | July 23, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"They have a tough job"

Eating doughnuts and beating black people is tough? Damn, they should try my job.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

So now the loyal Gibbs attempts to cover his boss by waffling. Obama owes an apology to police everywhere. They have a tough job, and he just made it even tougher.

Nice job, Mr President

Posted by: hill_marty | July 23, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Crowley should lost his job both for being a racist and for letting Reggie Lewis die.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

ComfortablyDumb:

I doubt that CNN will be there; regardless, I would tell anyone with a noose (or even a burning cross) they should leave.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

ComfortablyDumb:

I do know one thing, Susan Roesgen won't be there for CNN :)

EPIC FAIL

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

RealityCheckerinEffect:

It must depend on what the definition of "is" is again ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh how fun! Another "tea party" is being arranged here outside of the Gates residence!

And if this group is as "multi-ethnic" as the other tea parties have been, just imagine how that's going to play on CNN when one of them takes it upon himself to bring a rope.

Posted by: ComfortablyDumb | July 23, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

What I don't understand (pragmatically) is why Obama even felt the need to get innvolved in this issue. Yes I know he was asked a question about it, but all he had to say is that he wasn't commenting as he didn't have all of the facts. Period. But no, he had to keep going and put his foot in it.

It;s not like he needed to say something to get the African American vote (didn't he get 96% of that in the election)? This is the type of comment that can only cause him problems with suburban moderate swing voters who appreciate the police. These are the voters who put him over the top in '08.

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

gagalbert:

Thank you! That's what I've been saying (of course, those trashing the police think he lied in the report ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

So...the president is saying the police acted "stupidly," but the officer is "not stupid"?

Wiggle, squirm, spin.

I voted for you, Mr. Obama, but you're starting to sound half-baked and evasive.

Posted by: RealityCheckerInEffect | July 23, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

If you read the police report you will see that it was Gates that acted stupidly; The police officer wanted to leave several times and Gates would not let it drop. Gates is a jerk.

Posted by: gagalbert | July 23, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Crowley should get a medal.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Crowley should lose his job for being such an incompetent officer.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

nana4:

Well, at least you finally admit that the arrest took place OUTSIDE his house -- I know that was a big leap for you -- congrats!

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Now I realize why Obama kept going to a church where Jeremiah Wright delivered racist sermons for twenty years. Obama is a racist too.

Posted by: sperrico | July 23, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

mstratas:

Professor Gates was not arrested for breaking into his house. He was arrested for disorderly conduct OUTSIDE his house.

dottydo:

Curious how Gov. Patrick did not disclose that Professor Gates donated $500 to his campaign -- he also thinks the arrest happened inside the house -- at least Obama was smart enough to start out his comments by acknowledging his bias for a "good friend". Like I said, I'd much rather everyone concentrate on this rather than passing more laws leading our country toward socialism.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

If it is not stupid, it is unwise behavior from a policeman to create or to escalate a conflict over a non issue. He should have been trained in this and apparently needs a refresher course. His job is to protect and serve, not to incite. There was a point when he could have just said good day and left, and done his job to protect and serve. He needs not to give an apology but he needs refresher courses on interpersonal skills, conflict de escalation, and anger/pride management. I do not let policemen in my home when my alarm goes off mistakenly in the middle of the night and they arrive. I tell them everything is fine and thank them for coming and they leave. They do not insist that I come out and ID myself that I belong there and then arrest me because I refuse to cooperate. If they did, I would be furious and I would lodge a complaint. If I were in trouble inside, there would be a way I could let them know that I was, I am sure. For starters, I would step outside when asked in that case, hoping I would be better off with the police than the intruder....it just never should have escalated to this point. The policeman is the one who should have had the objectivity, the training, the upper hand to have just walked away instead of reacting to an angry black man conditioned to injustice in a situation like this.

Posted by: nana4 | July 23, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

The police acted stupidly. Gates is a small wimpy looking man and for Crowley to suspect Gates to be a criminal is indeed stupid; more so, after Gates showed his IDs.

Posted by: mstratas | July 23, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I'll protest the teabagging protestors myself if I have to!

Only Joe the Plumber will show, the Kato Kaelin of the Republinazis! That, or Cathy Lanier!

Yeeaaagghhhhh!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bs2004 | July 23, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Governor Deval Patrick just put his foot in his mouth too.
Obama isn't the only stupid one, who won't be invited back.

Posted by: dottydo | July 23, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

No one but those present really knows what happened. President Obama might want to choose his battles a little more wisely, he has bigger fish to fry than local donut shop wannabees.

Posted by: newbeeboy | July 23, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

"You're welcome. I'll see you Saturday (if you show)."

Look for the yellow hat. I dare you to mouth off to the guy in the yellow hat.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Dear jcrowley@cambridgepolice.org,

How utterly stupid do you feel now that the charges have been dropped and the President of the United States pointed out your stupidty to a national audience? Do you think that next time you might leave your ego off to the side to save yourself massive embarassment?

Sincerely,

America

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

You're welcome. I'll see you Saturday (if you show).

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

"If anyone else wants to e-mail the officer involved and commend him personally:

jcrowley@cambridgepolice.org"

Thanks for posting his email address. I will be sure to 'commend' his stupidity.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

dear nana4 | July 23, 2009 5:12 PM

Has Gates simple showed the officer his ID that is how it would have gone down. tHE OFFICER WOULD HAVE LEFT WITHOU INCIDENT. Instead Gates refuses goes in the house instead of out like the officer ask him to starts calling him a racist? Had you been there likely nothing happens GATES CAUSE THE PROBLEM

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

At least we are all talking about this rather than Obama's healthcare plan getting any traction ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

nana4:

Maybe you would have a point if Professor Gates had been arrested "in his own home," but you (and Obama) need to get your facts straight first.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I can only "empathize", that is, put myself in the same position as that of the homeowner. I know that if the same thing happened to me, after I identified myself as the owner, explained why I had to "break into" my own home, I would have expected the police officer to tip his cap and say good bye. Period. It did not have to escalate to Stupid and if the police officer was offended because he was asked if the fact that the guy was black was the reason for all the uncertainty, the police officer should be trained to know how to deal with conflict and not escalate it. At the point the homeowner was charged with "disorderly conduct in a public place"....his own home....the circumstance changed to the owner dealing with an intruder or a home invasion by the police.

Posted by: nana4 | July 23, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Dear ellislawoffice:

The problem is that "some "African Americans" can;t see when one of there own is out of line and call them on it. The OJ trial is a classic example. The guy murders two people is clearly guilty and an "African American jury lets him go. "Why" becasue he is black. Guilty but free to go because certain "African Americans" can't say that one of ther own is worng. MJ another example clearly a child molester but made into some kind of hero and not charged found not guilty by a jury of his "peers". No add President Obama to the mis. Obama can't bear to say this "African American was wrong without blameing it on the policeman just doing his job for what 50,000 a year?

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

If anyone else wants to e-mail the officer involved and commend him personally:

jcrowley@cambridgepolice.org

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

ellislawoffice:

The charges were dropped because Professor Gates knows the Mayor. Nice try though.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

"Also, after responding to a 911 call, I would hope the police would not take the word of a man saying he's "the owner" without verification from anyone in the home, and without verifying that everyone in the home is safe. Posted by: playfair109"

So let's see. You come home, your door is really stuck. You go around back, enter your house, try the door, it won't open from the inside, so you go back around front to force it. You bump it hard several times and it finally opens. You go inside, start unpacking, and a cop shows up, and asks you to prove you live there. Just how do you propose to do that? You can produce ID, (Gates did), you still can't actually prove you live there, since that ID might be stolen. See the quandry.

Crowley admits that Gates satisfactotily ID'd himself and his residence. But the cop demanded that gates step out on the porch. WHY? I am paranoid enough that I might not wish to do that, and I'm white. Gates has a lifetime of such experiences. OF COURSE he might object to that request.

"Consider some poor man's hovel, leaning against a wall. The sun might enter their, the wind and rain might enter their, but the King may NOT enter there without permission, a Man's Home is his Castle" I'd like to say it is Edmund Burke but can't find it.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

There is a reason that progressives took every last Republican by the short hairs and threw them out of office onto the street. This is a great example to remind us of why we did that. For a party with an approval rating in the teens, Republicans sure are loud aren't they?

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

mikeinmidland:

I just confirmed with Police, Licensing and Commission, and Public Works (617-349-4800) that permits are not required for protests on public sidewalks. Thanks for the concern : )

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"The "Man in the Yellow Hat?" You've gotta be kidding right? He's the guy who takes care of Curious George in those kids books!

ROTFLOL!!!!!"

Why are you knocking Curious George?

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Crowley was within protocol to arrest Gates. But he knew the charge wouldn't stick. If he had walked away, he wouldn't be in hot water with his department right now. Therefore he acted stupidly.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | July 23, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

How many more facts are needed to be known other than the fact that foolish cop arrested Prof. Gates after he knew there was no burglary and that Gates was in his own home. The problem lies in the obvious fact that it causes a whole lot of you people to be very uncomfortable with the fact that a Black Man is the the President and he called out a "stupid/racist/angry" white cop for falsely arresting another Black Man. Another known fact,the charges have been dropped. Evidently, the Cambridge Police Department is not supporting this cop who acted "stupidly." If the arrest had been righteous, the charges would not have been dropped.
No matter how you "police are always right" people try to spin it, just on the known facts, Gates committed no crime and thus there was no legal basis for his arrest. Factor in the perceived racial profiling/prejudice and civil rights violations, Gates will get a nice supplement to his retirement nest egg from the City of Cambridge, courtesy of that white cop who "acted stupidly" by arresting a Black Man in his own home.

" And that's the way it is. " W.C.

Posted by: ellislawoffice | July 23, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

The "Man in the Yellow Hat?" You've gotta be kidding right? He's the guy who takes care of Curious George in those kids books!

ROTFLOL!!!!!

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

mikeinmidland:

Professor Gates was not arrested for being a threat -- disorderly conduct does not mean "threatening" -- my wife and I will be in Cambridge this weekend (I had already told FairlingtonBlade, and asked him for a good restaurant a few weeks ago, if you don't believe me). At least we agree about OJ getting arrested legitimately. I suspect those like "mrmoogie" and "unpluggedbudah" don't.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

He was arrested "outside his home" because the officer said if he wanted to continue the conversation, it would have to be outside. He was arrested on his porch. Crowley probably wanted the other cops outside as witnesses.

So, yeah, Gates probably would not have been arrested if he had stayed inside. I still say Crowley got played. Therefore, he acted stupidly.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | July 23, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I thought that Obama was all about getting "beyond race"?

A wise man told me once "Always be respectful to the man with the badge and gun." If they are in the wrong, you have a much better chance of getting it cleared up later when the adrenaline on both sides wears off. If you escalate it, you WILL loose every time (unless you have powerful friends like Dr Gates evidently does).

Just ask Teddy Kennedy in July 1969 just how far powerful friends can go to help you get out of jail!

I always enjoy your comments too JakeD.

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Obama called the officer stupid. Obama is an a-hole.

Posted by: Bitter_Bill | July 23, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

As a person close to the scene, I think Ambinder has the best take:

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/07/the_cambridge_cops_--_and_me.php

Posted by: mrmoogie | July 23, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"unpluggedboodah:

I don't know what time we will be there, but I will post on this thread when I get there."

Ok, now if I'm a little late don't run off. Be sure to stay until I show up. I'll be the guy in the yellow hat. Remember: THE YELLOW HAT.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

That's "Commander in Chief" not "Cammander in Cheif." I'm not saying your stupid, but you spell stupidly. See the difference?

Posted by: mikeinmidland | July 23, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

You know because he was older and had a cane hardly makes him harmless. Did he have a gun or access to one. Would a cane hurt. Was he a danger to himself. Maybe the officer cuffed him just to calm him down. Obama apparently knew all becasue he said. I hope the press keeps pushing Obama to apologize to the policemen. The officer probably knew that no charges would stick. I am fine with that. The system is supposed to work that way becasue you are cuffed doesn't mean you are guilty or even arrested.

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Sgt. James Crowley: Hero of the Stupid, Racists and the GOP

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

unpluggedboodah:

I don't know what time we will be there, but I will post on this thread when I get there.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Why the HELL is the PRESIDENT even commenting on this? Mr. Obama is not only unqualified to hold office, he is a danger to us all...

Posted by: wcmillionairre | July 23, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love Gates' shouted exclamation "You don't know who your messing with!"

Isn't that what the Hollywood lib celebs always shout at the police when pulled over for DUI. Or "I'll have your badge for this!"

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Gladiator2008:

Professor Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct OUTSIDE his own home. But that's not even the point. Did you see my questions about domestic abuse and OJ?

CarlosHawes:

Great posts!

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"unpluggedboodah:

You are advocating removing me VIOLENTLY. How about you meet me on the sidewalk in front of 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA this Saturday, tough guy."

Ok see you there. 1 PM sharp. I assume you'll be the drooling idiot?

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"Law enforcement sources tell ABC News that the conversation between Gates and Crowley was transmitted over Crowley's open police radio and Gates can be heard yelling."

I'll bet you that that didn't actually happen.

For a police radio to lock up like that would have meant that it was blocking EVERY other police radio on his group from transmitting, so that all those cops would have been out of communications with dispatch. That is why police radios have protections to keep them from locking up that way, and rarely, if ever, get set up to operate VOX control. For the results to have happened, Crowley would have had to have been keying his mike. And, since those mikes are reasonably directive, would have had to have been pointing it toward Gates.

Just my experience.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I meant Obama owes the ofdficer an apology as well

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse


JakeD: Of course legitimate arrests can be made of anyone committing an offense.

What I am saying is that Crowley knew, or should have known, that the charge wouldn't stick. Therefore arresting Gates was just a juvenile power play. Maybe Gates goaded him into it, but he should not have taken the bait.

Gates may have been yelling, but he's a small, 58 year old man who walks with a cane. Not a threat.

By the way, I hope you have a permit from the authorities in Cambridge for your little protest rally. Won't it be fun for you, watching from 3000 miles away while the Cambridge police have to crack a few white supremacists' heads while protecting Gates.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | July 23, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Good luck to Obama in getting a group of police officers from any local police union to stand behind him for one of those "men in blue" photo ops that politicians love come election time!!!!

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

The officer is a certified hero. See the CNN poster on Mouth to mouth on Reggie Lewis. Yet this dope "Gates" calls him a racist and the president says he acted "stupidly". I now not only think that Gates owes him an apology so does Obama owe the President an apology. This story is NOT going away quicly. Nor should it.

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Everybody involved in this whole thing is acting stupid.

Gates was stupid to lose his keys, and even stupider to mouth off to the officer with that purported "because I'm a black man?" comment. He could simply -- and politely -- have explained that he'd lost his keys to his house. But, no, he had to make an issue of it. He probably did not know that the officer was responding to a burglarly call and assumed he was being racially profiled. But, nevertheless, the point stands?: just show some basic courtesy, and you usually won't have these situations. Yes, racial profiling exists, but so, too, do simple misunderstandings, which it certainly appears that this case is.

The officer, on the other hand, probably went overboard in arresting a middle-aged man (walking with a cane, no less), who had already produced identification that proved he was in his own home. Why he'd waste time hauling an old man down to the station, when there was no real crime, is hard to understand. It's understandable and probably correct to call that action "stupid".

And finally -- and I never thought I'd say this -- but president Obama was stupid for expressing his personal opinion on a pending law enforcement matter, before, by his own admission, he had all the facts. As a lawyer, he knows better than to do that. As president, he should always pick his words with great care, which he did not do in this case. Whether Obama is right or wrong -- I happen to think he's right -- is beside the point, he simply should have not commented on the matter.

Posted by: Gladiator2008 | July 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

THE PROF. GATES INCIDENT IS ONLY THE TIP OF A POLICE-STATE ICEBERG


MR. PRESIDENT: The Prof. Henry Gates police home invasion is in line with the "M.O." of a Gestapo-like vigilante police state apparatus that is the creation of a federal "multi-agency coordinated action program."

Human and civil rights are being violated daily all across America -- yet this "program" has enlisted you as its "enabler-in-chief."

You MUST end this "program" and bring to justice those officials who have made a mockery of the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law:

***

FEMA, Secret Service, FBI, the U.S. military and intel agencies are among the federal enablers of volunteer community policing, anti-terrorism and town watch organizations transmogrified by Bush-Cheney into fronts for a nationwide, civilian Gestapo-like army.

This grassroots-based extrajudicial targeting and punishment "torture matrix" uses covertly implanted GPS tracking devices to stalk, harass, vandalize and terrorize unjustly "targeted" Americans and their families.

When "targets" travel, the GPS system alerts vigilantes affiliated with local units of this American Gestapo, and the harassment follows. Local police cooperation denies these targeted Americans their Constitutional right of equal protection under the law.

Silent, injury- and illness-inducing microwave and laser radiation "directed energy weapons" are being used to torture, and to degrade the lives of targeted citizens -- what could be described as a quiet, ideologically-motivated genocide.

This weaponization of the electromagnetic spectrum is every bit as socially significant as the invention of gunpowder -- but the mainstream media has yet to report in detail on the ramifications.

Victims charge that members of this civilian Gestapo have infiltrated the health care system, calling into question the quality of the services they receive when they need hospital or emergency care.

And companion array of “programs of personal financial destruction," using the IRS as a political weapon, sabotages the finances of targeted families. Their telecommunications and U.S. mail appear to be subject to warrantless surveillance, interception and tampering, including the alteration of financial accounts and credit card and utility billing statements.

This systematic bypass of the American judicial system makes a mockery of the rule of law -- and political "dissidents," "whistle-blowers" and those considered to be social "deviates" are among its prime targets.

Civil rights advocates: Wake up and smell the police state that has co-opted POTUS and a deluded Congress into becoming enablers of vigilante injustice and domestic torture.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

See "GESTAPO USA" at http://NowPublic.com/scrivener ("stream" or "stories" list).

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 23, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Sgt. James Crowley, Hero of the Stupid.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

unpluggedboodah:

You are advocating removing me VIOLENTLY. How about you meet me on the sidewalk in front of 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA this Saturday, tough guy.

kase:

OJ was released once upon a time too.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

The charges were dropped because the good doctor made a few phone calls to his very powerful "friends" including the mayor. Note the irony, a man who claims to be oppressed and discriminated against has the clout to make a few calls and "get out of jail free" whereas if you or I smarted off to an officer, we would still be sitting in a jail cell awaiting our trial date in a couple of weeks.

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

right on to the poster who wrote below:

mikeinmidland and unpluggedboodah:

So, you're suggesting that homeowners should never be arrested for disorderly conduct? What about for domestic abuse? If OJ had killed Nicole and Ron at HIS HOUSE, he shouldn't have been arrested for that either?


Obama said aressting a man in his own home was "stupid"

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Whose are the racists? Obama and Gates
(CNN) -- A Cambridge, Massachusetts, police officer said Thursday he will "never apologize" about how he handled the arrest of prominent black Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr.

Sgt. Jim Crowley said he has nothing to apologize for in regards to the arrest of Henry Louis Gates Jr.

"That apology will never come from me as Jim Crowley, it won't come from me as sergeant in the Cambridge Police Department," Sgt. James Crowley told Boston radio station WEEI. "Whatever anybody else chooses to do in the name of the city of Cambridge or the Cambridge Police Department which are beyond my control, I don't worry about that. I know what I did was right. I have nothing to apologize for."

Crowley also said he was exercising caution and is clearly not a racist based on his previous actions.

Those actions, Crowley told the Boston Herald, include giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to former Boston Celtics star Reggie Lewis, who suffered a fatal heart attack in 1993 at Brandeis University when Crowley was a campus cop.

"I wasn't working on Reggie Lewis the basketball star. I wasn't working on a black man," Crowley told the Boston Herald. "I was working on another human being."

Gates was arrested last week at his home after a confrontation with Crowley. Cambridge authorities on Tuesday dropped disorderly conduct charges against Gates.

Crowley also told WEEI that when he asked Gates to come out of his home, he thought a break-in had occurred or was still happening.

"I didn't know who [Gates] was. I was by myself. I was the only police officer standing there, and I got a report of people breaking into a house," Crowley told WEEI. "That was for my safety first and foremost. I have to go home at night, I have three beautiful children and a wife who depend on me. So I had no other motive than to ensure my safety."

Responding to a reporter's question on Gates' arrest, President Obama said Wednesday night that the Cambridge police "acted stupidly."
"But I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry; No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and, No. 3 ... that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

The incident shows "how race remains a factor in this society," Obama said.

Crowley told WEEI that he was "disappointed" that Obama interjected himself into the situation.

"He's the president of the United States, and I support the president to a point," Crowley told WEEI. "I think it's disappointing that he waded into what should be a local issue and something that is -- really that plays out here. As he himself had said at the beginning of that press conference, he didn't know all the facts. He certainly doesn't based on those comments. I just think it was very disappointing."
7/23/2009 4:37:37 PM

Posted by: mharwick | July 23, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how dumb Sgt. James Crowley feels now that the charges were dropped. I guess that power play didn't work so well.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

If anyone wants to stop by and commend the Cambridge Police Department personally (125 Sixth Street, Cambridge, MA 02142). If anyone encounters a problem exercising your First Amendment rights this weekend, please call the Cambridge Police at 617-349-3300.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

"unpluggedboodah:

You are advocating violence for simply exercising one's First Amendment rights? I am not going to engage in disorderly conduct at least ; )"

I'm advocating removing an obvious idiot from the planet.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey cop lovers!
If DR Gates really committed a crime, why were the charges dropped?

Watch the pigs.

Posted by: kase | July 23, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

A poster wrote below:

Obama didn't call the police "stupid." He said they acted stupidly.

How would he know? He wasn't there. Obama acted stupidly inserting himself into this. He is supposed to be the Cammander in Cheif. Obama demonstrated poor judgement. If the Cambridge police judgement was as bad porr Mr. Gates would have been shot dead!!

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

unpluggedboodah:

You are advocating violence for simply exercising one's First Amendment rights? I am not going to engage in disorderly conduct at least ; )

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

mikeinmidland and unpluggedboodah:

So, you're suggesting that homeowners should never be arrested for disorderly conduct? What about for domestic abuse? If OJ had killed Nicole and Ron at HIS HOUSE, he shouldn't have been arrested for that either?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Dear adrianarnold

I guess your pastor was a racist as well? It is funny how if a white politicain said that a black cop was "stupid" all hell would break loose. The congressional elections will be here before you no it and Obama is falling on his sword.

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138"

I hope he blows your head off.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Imagine a job where every time you go out on a call, you might get shot. Imagine leaving your family every day with the knowledge that people in your line of work often never make it home. Now imagine that your radio blares with a report that a home is being broken into. It is night and the street is dark. You step out of your car and walk to the door not knowing if a burglar has you in the sights of a 45 cal handgun and is getting ready to remove the top of your skull. You find someone inside who starts screaming at you and refuses to show you identification. You heard that there where two people breaking into the house. As far as you know, the other one may be in the next room pointing a sawed off shotgun at the door you are standing next to.

Do any of these armchair libs have any earthly idea of what these men in blue do for them every day of the year and how much danger they subject themselves to, for very low pay, just so that you and I can feel secure in our homes?

And then the President of the United States, admitting he doesn't have all of the facts, has the AUDACITY to criticize that officer?

What has this country come to?

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Garance Franke-Ruta:

Can you at least make the headline clear? "Obama Stands by His Criticism OF POLICE"

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama didn't call the police "stupid." He said they acted stupidly.

Maybe Gates did bait the policeman. But before he arrested him, he knew Gates lived there, and that he was a Harvard professor. He should have known that arresting him would not end well for the police.

I read the police report. That's just the policeman's version of what happened, using words from the statute for disorderly conduct in order to justify the arrest. But it was quickly dropped, and for good reason.

No citizen should be afraid to speak their mind to a police officer. They work for us, supposedly to "Protect and Serve" us.

Posted by: mikeinmidland | July 23, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Gates was obviously a jerk-off but arresting a guy for being upset is stupid and Obama nailed it.

Posted by: unpluggedboodah | July 23, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

adrianarnold:

Did YOU read that Gates refused to tell the officer whether anyone was in the house or not?! Who expect the officer to simply KNOW that?

mrmoogie:

It's a public sidewalk, and I can protest there all day long!

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

politicalobserver1

His Pastor was like a lot of ours! Truth hurts!

In any case, you obviously don't know the race issue that is real here, although I will admit it is not that big an issue to those of us who deal with it all our lives and just succeed anyway.

My stepfather was a cop and I for one would hope this cop was that good too, but my stepfather also told me about the "other" cops he knew, so I don't see it as narrow as you.

The election is over, He won, move on.

Posted by: adrianarnold | July 23, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Where did all of Gibbs's comments go?! How about next time you "update" a thread, you leave the embarrassing "logic" up too?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

playfair109

He showed his I.D. with address; he lives alone. Who'd verify for the officer - the cuckoo clock?

Did you even read the story?

Posted by: adrianarnold | July 23, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Here's my favorite part, from ABC news:

Law enforcement sources tell ABC News that the conversation between Gates and Crowley was transmitted over Crowley's open police radio and Gates can be heard yelling.

"Mr. Gates was given plenty of opportunities to stop what he was doing. He didn't. He acted very irrational. He controlled the outcome of that event," Crowley told WBZ.

Crowley said Gates, the director of Harvard's W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African-American Research and former host of the PBS show "African American Lives," called him a "racist cop."

"There was a lot of yelling, there was references to my mother," he added, "something you wouldn't expect from anybody that should be grateful that you were there investigating a report of a crime in progress, let alone a Harvard University professor."

I really like the part about his whole conversation with Gates was transmitted over Crowley's open radio. I'm sure Crowley would be acting biased while is radio was transmitting his every word. Gates and everyone supporting him is gonna look like a fool if they got this on tape. I pray they do.

Posted by: kitzdakat | July 23, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

mrmoogie

Glad someone who may really know the people in the story can comment. The rest of us are watching the train wreck and talking like we're Engineers!

Posted by: adrianarnold | July 23, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm siding with the officer and I believe obama was inexcusable in slamming this officer after admitting he did not know the circumstances.

Also, after responding to a 911 call, I would hope the police would not take the word of a man saying he's "the owner" without verification from anyone in the home, and without verifying that everyone in the home is safe.

Posted by: playfair109 | July 23, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Jake D,

Please keep your right-wing vitriol out of our neighborhood. You have no clue as to the facts of the case. I know Prof. Gates and I went to high school with Crowley.

In as much as institutional racism is still prevalent in America, the issue here is more about class than race.
It's obvious to anyone who's ever met Prof Gates that he is a pretty non-threatening guy. Crowley should have de-escalated the situation, instead of getting pissed off and over-reacting. Now, unfortunately, he's the poster boy for "racist cop."

Posted by: mrmoogie | July 23, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

i got arrested in front of my house for flicking off a cop and i'm white (and coincidentally drunk, although he had no proof until i vomited). cops are dcks, welcome to america

Posted by: batigol85 | July 23, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Profiling is when police use race or other demographic factors in deciding who to further investigate or interrogate. It is DISCRETIONARY. In this case, the officers were responding to a call reporting a possible burglary in progress. Their response was NON-DISCRETIONARY. Police don't get to decide which calls to respond to or ignore. Therefore, to call this profiling is about 1,000 miles wide of the mark.

Posted by: CarlosHawes | July 23, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Why is the national media giving this trivial incident HUGE coverage, while giving no coverage at all to recent shocking hate crimes? If the races were reversed in these stories, we would be hearing about them 24/7 for months:

http://www.ohio.com/news/dyer/50698407.html

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/51253207.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vZqCralkYk

Posted by: atom2 | July 23, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

after carefully reading the police report, I can only conclude that the officer simply didn't like the way Mr Gates was yelling at him, had the guts to ask him for his badge number so he decided to to arrest him to show who is the Boss. Would he have done the same if Gates was white?. probably not.. that's why it's a matter of racism...

Posted by: djiine | July 23, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138. Does anyone know what "Inkwell Foundation Inc." does?

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

NPD Sociopathic dual profiles of Obama aka Dunham, aka aka...etc. now has the ire of all women who worked hard for years in Domestic Violence issues demanding police do not leave homes that are broken into, just because he says he lives there.

It takes time to hunt down the TRO filings and records of a problem, so displays of poor impulse control are usually cuffed up.

The officer taking the loud bellering kook in for a" cool off time out" might have saved neighbors a wild knock on their door or intimidating phone calls to find who turned him in.

Maybe Obama should read the newspapers and vet before a comment.
He would have seen the black police officers who all agreed clearly, that Gates had the potential of acting out on poor impulse control.

Obama himself has a clear problem with poor impulse control now doesn't he?

He is now exposed as a "white police hater", and exposed as a sociopath without empathy for the battered women who want a clear investigation of a D.V. kook breaking into their homes.

Gates brought the investigation on himself.

Obama should fianally be vetted for his own misuse of the Courts to hide intel about himself.
No one in this Country is above the law.

Police should pull support from Obama enmasse for it.
Put a fork in Obama ...he is done.

Posted by: dottydo | July 23, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Dear adrianarnold | July 23, 2009 3:39

If the president had all the facts which he said he didn't maybe then he should weigh in. Also frankly this is not a balack white issue this is how NOT to behave when a police officer comes to your home investigating a robbery. The police would cuff an upiddiy white as quickly as an upiddity black- as well they should. Obama can't seem to notice balack racism when he hears it as noted by his attendence for years at his now famous racist pastor. (An election issue that should be revisited now) What was his name?

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

(address correction) 17 Ware Street, Cambridge MA

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Seems the President is making a habit out of making statements before knowing the facts, much like saying "I haven't read the house bill but I like it."

The police report leads me to believe the officer was trying to defuse the situation by exiting the house when Mr. Gates ran followed him outside and continued to berate him. In fact he was so busy yelling that he never acknowledged the officer's name. Just because he's a Harvard Professor does not mean he can't be wrong.

Posted by: Barnacle-Bill | July 23, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Gates gets all the blame for this one.

He spent 15 minutes trying to break into his own house. Then he is pissed that the police were called?

What did the guy expect?

As for his arrest, let's all head down to the street and start cussing out some cops and see if anyone gets arrested. Yeah! I guess they don't have a class on common sense at Harvard.

I can't believe Obama is defending this dude.

Posted by: ghokee | July 23, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Protest THIS SATURDAY in front of Gates's house: 11 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

" "Stupid" is the most charitable interpretation of the officer's abuse of his authority. You can't arrest someone just because you don't like his attitude. Posted by: DupontJay "

Of course, if the man you are arresting is black, in most cities in America a white police officer can, and will, much of the time.

The probable cause is suspicion of being black. Alternatives are being black ans driving a BMW after midnight. (I personally know of numerous cases where a nearby police department regularly stopped an electrician who worked a three to eleven shift as he drove his BMW home. Same electrician, same BMW, same route and on more than one occasion same cop.

Then again you can get to be very dead because you regularly run away from cops you have reason to fear, if you are black, teenaged, and live in Cincinnati.

Remember, it is established case law that the police must have valid probable cause to stop you on the street and ask for your ID. You may refuse to give it to them and continue walking, and for them to stop you, THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU A REASON. They MUST properly identify themselves if you request it. Suspcion isn't a probable cause.

There was only one person who failed to behave properly, the police officer who decided that he wasn't getting the defference he wanted, and tried to make a case about it.

Gates needs to sue Cambridge and the officer for about a million each.

Its called deterrence.

Posted by: ceflynline | July 23, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the one who will be apologizing before too long.

Posted by: pgr88 | July 23, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

yojoe - can you please die soon, we need the oxygen for us smart people!

Posted by: adrianarnold | July 23, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The officer said Prof. Gates referenced "...his mother..." Excuse me that doesn't justify an officer acting "stupidly". When you're trained as an officer your training includes "walking away" and "defusing the situation". Officers are often called names - so what.

Posted by: rlj1 | July 23, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like a good Idea to me because Al Sharpton -even though he lives in NYC and has nothing to do with this- will be there harrasing the poor beat cop who was just doing his job.

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The President was right. It was stupid that the Police let this go to the extreme of an arrest. What, did Gates raise his cane or just raise some "Cain"? Did the Officer feel he had to put the uppidity you-know-what in his place? Race in America needs to be talked about more often in public and why not have this President weigh in? For once there is someone with the job who really can have empathy/sympathy with the minority view on certain issues, yet still be President of the United States.

To Sparky15 - Gates doesn't live in the "ghetto" because he doesn't have to dummy!

Posted by: adrianarnold | July 23, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

YoJoe: Load up your gun and head for DC.
BEFORE IT's TOO LATE!

Posted by: Tomcat3 | July 23, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

He has to explain over and over and over again because you stupid motherf***ers just don't have the mental capacity to understand, and you've got a HUGE chip on your shoulder.
In the words of Bob Dylan: It's a HARD rain gonna' fall.

Posted by: Tomcat3 | July 23, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Nobody, but nobody, should hassle the police when they are making a call. They were there because it was reported. Gates is the one that started the confrontation. If the police wanted to see his ID so that he could show proof of residence, then he should do that. That is not profiling.

If minorities keep crying wolf like this, nobody will take them seriously when there is a real problem. Or maybe the answer is to just not answer calls to residences owned by minorities. Somebody is breaking in? Sorry, that house is owned by a minority, and they might accuse us of racial profiling. Have a nice day.

Posted by: texish | July 23, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Please help me!


I now spend my days in fear that an INS official will knock on my door, round up my family, and deport us.


After all... how can I be REALLY, ACTUALLY, TRULY and COMPLETELY sure I'm in the country legally.


Now.....yes, I have a birth certificate that says I was born in Chicago, Illinois and, yes, my parents tell me I was born at Edgewater Hospital and, yes, up until now I've been allowed to live and reside and educate myself and work in the United States of America, but without some law to verify the fact that all the documentation AND my memories AND what my mommy and daddy told me is TRUE who can say for certain I wasn't actually born, well... anywhere.


I might be Sudanese.


Or Chinese.


Or any of a thousand different "ese" I've never thought of.


Hell, I could really be a citizen of IRAN, which would, justifiably put me on a thousand different watch lists and make me ineligible to compete on or watch American Idol!


Now that I think of it... not being an American... how did I even learn to speak or write in English (good GOD can you even READ what I'm writing?).


Have I eaten a hot dog?


Do I know how to play football?


Am I male... caucasian... HUMAN?


I have a diploma... but did I REALLY go to college?


I have a mortgage... but do I own a house?


I have a marriage license... but maybe that never happened either.


Am I ANYTHING my documents say I am or have I always been plotting to impersonate myself?


And see, since I'm quite sure I DID NOT ever apply for, nor was granted, a green card (and don't even mention the process of becoming a naturalized citizen) I might just be an illegal alien hiding in plain sight of myself, while taking the jobs and social services for real Americans (whomever they might be).


Furthermore, my wife (if she really IS my wife), Mary, might not be a natural or naturalized citizen and though my children have birth certificates CLAIMING they were born in Dekalb, IL... my youngest son on THIS day seven years ago... and I'm pretty sure I remember being on domestic soil when he came out all purple and goopy, without a law to reconfirm and redocument what previously been confirmed and documented on driver's licenses and passports and loan documentations, how can I know what is TOTALLY, ABSOLUTELY, VERIFIABLY, CROSS-MY-HEART-AND-STICK-A-NEEDLE-IN-MY-EYE true?


(And by true, I mean "the earth is 6000 years old" true not "fakey-fakey evolution" true.)


Dear God, please, oh Pete, let congress pass the Republican sponsored and Godly blessed HR-1503 bill, so that I can one day hold my head high, knowing that I am who 45 years of paperwork, memories, and endless documentation says I--.....gulp.


(Oh, God. There's someone at the door. This is it! This is the end. PLEASE KNOW... I LOVED YOU BEST!!)


(Never mind... just a pizza. Mmmm, pepperoni.)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt3dz9KX3UE
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Posted by: DrainYou | July 23, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

politicalobserver1:

How about we all protest in front of Gates's house? 11 Ware Street, Cambridge MA 02138.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

The One who is Stupid is Obama, opening his mouth when even he admits he doesnt' know the facts.

Posted by: newagent99 | July 23, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Potter

I have no doubt that you are sometimes pulled over wrongly on the rode, but this case isn't at all like they. The police had a call of two men breaking in to a home. THey were investigating just doing there job, a hard job at that. THen Gates goes off on his racist rant. He deserved to be arested and was lucky he wasn't mistakenly shot as a robbery suspect. All in I think the officers did a pretty good job of not over reacting. I can not say the same for Gates. He certainly should be apologizing. Just look at the Phot's of him screaming as he is taken away in hand cuffs. It is clear form the police report that he was screaming lon before the cuffs. He was and is out of control.

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Much ado about Obama's comment but in the Boston area it's common knowledge that the Cambridge cops are a backwards bunch. To arrest an aging professor in his own house, for "disorderly conduct"? Are you kidding me? That's prima facie evidence of stupidity. Res ipsa loquitur. The facts speak for themselves. Nice to have a president who's not afraid to speak like an adult; in Bush we had a president who spoke like a kindergarten cowboy.

Posted by: Plutonium57 | July 23, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Professor Cornel West and Professor Gates, WHAT A PAIR!!

You must listen to them on C-Span then ask yourself, " Do these two Professors like White people and are they racist??

Its my opinion that you will clearly come to a quick conclusion.

WAKE UP AMERICA, BEFORE ITS TO LATE!!

Posted by: yojoe | July 23, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm a strong supporter of President Obama, but I think he was wrong in his assessment of the Gates incident. I agree that there shouldn't have been an arrest, but all the "stupidity" was coming from Dr. Gates, not the police.

Every teenager and adult in this country, of whatever race, should know that you don't harangue and bait a policeman who is just doing his job. This fact seems to have eluded the professor. Obama should have taken a non-committal pass on the question, rather than blundering into an embarrassingly bad answer.

Posted by: billsomerville | July 23, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I think we should start a legal fund for the police officer to use to sue the pants off Gates!!

Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I was one of the people that elected this guy. Let's pretend that Obama is making too much of this. Let's pretend that this rarely happens. I was stopped by the NJ State Police once for driving a burgundy Chrysler T&C minivan I guess. I wasn't speeding. He just looked at me and waved me off. I took that minivan to the car wash one Saturday and the owner admired the car and asked me if it belonged to me. Another time, I was stopped one evening by the Philadelphia police because I was driving my late model Audi. Evidently, the suspects for recent car thefts looked like me. After checking my VIN and registration, they let me go. There's a pattern here or I was unknowingly part of a multiple birth. Let's not pretend that Obama's response is the issue.

Posted by: Potter3 | July 23, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Dont blame anybody for this incident except President Johnson and the White Congress that signed the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 the year that started the DOWNFALL of the United States!!!

Wake up America, if its not to late!!!

Posted by: yojoe | July 23, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse


Obama was completely and unequivocally wrong calling the police Stupid. Gates is Stupid and now add Obama to the stupid list. Obama needs to remember he is the president to all people and not just African Americans. Obama was right the first time when he said I don't know anything about the case! Gates was belligerent and uncooperative and a danger to the officers. He is also a liar. The only thing this case has to do with race is that it shows some blacks have a big old chip on there shoulder to white people and that we owe them everything. Please note the police report on the fax website. It clearly demonstrates his belligerence.


Posted by: politicalobserver1 | July 23, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

"Stupid" is the most charitable interpretation of the officer's abuse of his authority.

You can't arrest someone just because you don't like his attitude.

Posted by: DupontJay | July 23, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Nobody but the two individuals who were there really knows what happened. However, for the President to fault the officer is irresponsible. From all acounts that I read, Mr. Gates, at first, refused to provide I.D. When he did provide I.D., the officer was subjected to invectives about his mother when Gates said, "your mama." When asked to step outside, Mr. Gates was reported to yell and shout outside his house and refused to cooperate with the officer. If these reports are accurate, Mr. Gates should not have behaved with such disrespect for the law. If this is the best he can point to as an example of "racial bias" we surely have come a long way in racial relations. Mr. Gates' behavior, if reports are accurate, has done more to separate the races than to bring them together. As an educated Harvard professor, he did not behave as an educated person.

Posted by: migli3x | July 23, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Sparky15, what rock did you crawl out from under. There may be some doubt about whether or not Crowley acted on racial grounds but I'd say there is very little room for doubt about your racism. You should spend more time working on your GED and less time on-line.

Posted by: ElectricBill | July 23, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Like Gibbs said, Obama didn’t say the cop was stupid. He said the cop acted stupidly. Big difference, intelligent people act stupidly all the time. Bill O’Reilly went to Harvard and conservatives talk about how smart Rush Limbaugh is and they act stupidly ALL the time, but for most guys, all it takes is a little anger and testosterone, or a few shots of red whiskey. Gates acted stupidly too. But he shouldn’t have been arrested. That’s where the testosterone kicked in on the cop.

Posted by: ElectricBill | July 23, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Was it an intelligent act or a stupid act to arrest a homeowner for disorderly conduct when a simple acknowledgment of a misunderstanding by a neighbor brought the police to the house? The police rightly responded to the call, but the situation should have been quickly resolved. Was this an example of proper situational awareness? Would you give the police an "A" for arresting a homeowner for becoming angry over a misunderstanding?

Posted by: Potter3 | July 23, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama was stupid for even attempting to answer the question. Without a teleprompter he is lost and this is proof. He wasn't there, he admitted that he didn't know much about it, but the Harvard guy is his friend. So automatically the police are "stupid".

You people elected this guy.

Posted by: MKadyman | July 23, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Cambridge Major -blk ghetto trash apologized to Gates - how did she get into office who's azz did she lick.

Posted by: Sparky15 | July 23, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

GIBBS whenyou open your mouth crap comes out - you are a disgrace to the male population!

OVOMIT you are a radical racist and had NO business speaking on this incident.

GATES I hope you never need a cop - why do you live in a WHITE community afraid of living in the GHETTO!

Posted by: Sparky15 | July 23, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

printthis:

Could you be more specific? Is it "beyond" the police officer, or this lawyer too, who contend that Obama “was dead wrong to malign this police officer specifically and the department in general,” Alan McDonald, the lawyer for the Cambridge Police Superior Officers Association, told ABC News today.

Sgt. James Crowley, who arrested Gates for disorderly conduct also chimed in today, saying Obama’s characterization was “way off base… I acted appropriately,” Crowley told WBZ Radio in Boston Thursday.
“There was a lot of yelling, there was references to my mother,” he added, “something you wouldn’t expect from anybody that should be grateful that you were there investigating a report of a crime in progress, let alone a Harvard University professor.”

I'm actually going to be in Cambridge this Saturday, looking for any protests I can attend.

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

The Bigot-in-Chief clarifies his statement.

Posted by: grunk | July 23, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

JakeD wrote:

"So, the Cambridge police acted stupidly but he's not calling any individual police officer "stupid". Got it!"

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Don't even try Jake -- it's way beyond you.


Posted by: printthis | July 23, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

So, the Cambridge police acted stupidly but he's not calling any individual police officer "stupid". Got it!

Posted by: JakeD | July 23, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

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