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Obama on Health-Care Reform: 'We're Going to Get It'

By Michael A. Fletcher
President Obama continued Tuesday pushing for health care reform in the face of swirling doubts in Congress, asserting, "We're closer than ever before to the reform that the American people need and we're going to get it."

Speaking to reporters in the Rose Garden, Obama highlighted the points of agreement in the bills that are moving through Congress and the cost-saving promises already made by health care providers. "We've forged a level of consensus on health care that has never been reached in the history of this country," the president said.

Obama made his comments before meeting at the White House with a group of moderate and conservative Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, many of whom are concerned about the huge price tag attached to the proposals before Congress. The panel is still working on its own legislation to both extend health insurance to the 46 million Americans who lack it and implement changes that would slow the increase in health care costs.

Obama has been pushing for both chambers of Congress to have a health care bill on the floor before they go into their summer recess in early August, a timetable that many Republicans and increasing numbers of Democrats say is too ambitious. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday that the president believes a deadline is necessary to force action, and to keep legislation on track so he could meet his goal of signing a health-care bill into law before the end of the year.

"Time and again, we've heard excuses to delay and defeat reform," Obama said. "Time and again, the American people have suffered because people in Washington played the politics of the moment instead of putting the interests of the American people first. That's how we ended up with premiums rising three times faster than wages. That's how we ended up with businesses choosing between shedding benefits an shutting their doors. That's how we've been burdened with runaway costs and huge gaps in coverage. That's the status quo."

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obama is protecting the constitution, by serving the people and wehat they want which is health reform. i am glad president obama solved the banks, car industries, stimulus package, and hopefully healthcare. could imagine if obama had come in office nad not done any of these things? he would have been run out of office like the last guy that did not do anything unjtil it was too late.Oh buy the way president obama campaign on reforming healthcare, it is his mandate to his presidency.

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Posted by: jimhenry2207 | July 23, 2009 12:26 AM | Report abuse

Let's get real. most of us can't afford the taxes that will be ultimately levied to pay for government dictated healthcare. How many people will suffer as they await government authorazation for specialty medical care? I guarantee that the senators and congressmen wouldn't go along with it if they had to receive the exact same care! As is, they have an on call doctor at their disposal, and front of the line anything necessary treatment at bethesda! If this is the way the democrat/liberals want things to be, then why don't we all declare ourselves. Then those that want to try Obama's socialist medical care can sign up and only you will be required to fund that horrible system. Leave the rest of us alone and we will keep the freedom of choice won long ago! There is no freedom in a socialist system, and those of us that served our country didn't fight to protect freedom to have it thrown away by Obama and his cronies!

Posted by: VETERANAGAINSTSOCIALISM | July 22, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

The President is right; this is not the time to delay. The delay tactic is really the destroy tactic. To delay is to kill the Health Care Reform, period. The GOP does not have an alternative Health Care Reform plan but to stay with the status quo. They want to continue the environment that increases the profits of the Insurance and Drug Companies while decreasing the quality and availability of Health Care for everyone. If we delay we will spend another 50 years debating and evading the final out come of Health Care Reform.
Now is the time to capture the opportunity of finally winning the fight. We must strike the knockout blow now and finally win.
I am for taxing everyone if we need to pay for health care for everyone. We all should share the burden. I am my brother’s keeper and I want to see my neighbor do well. I am willing to pay more in taxes for health care for everyone. In the end I believe we will all save more money in our ability to obtain more competitive health care plans that will lower our out of pocket costs for health care.

Posted by: kg4thepeople | July 22, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Same ol' BS arguments against comprehensive health care since I was in HS (63), i.e.: 1. Do you want a system like ------------ (fill in England, Canada, France, etc.)? Correct answer; YES!
Do you want the Government running health care? Correct answer; YES! (By the way, Republicans have yet to come up with anything concrete on how SS, or, Medicare, or Medicaid is run. [Now its the DMV! with regard to the latter, I've always renewed by mail, and when I have gone in, I've been called to the dest inside of 30 min.])
Do you want the Government deciding your doctor? Correct answer: YES! What do you know about your doctor anyway. My wife is a nurse and can tell you of the incompetency of doctors and how they pad their bills. These doctors may seem really intelligent and know their stuff. But do you really know them?
Right now your best HEALTH CARE plan is to "stay AWAY from doctors and lawyers, and you will stay away from the UNDERTAKER!"

Posted by: nwsjnky1 | July 22, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone is doubting that reform is needed. We do not have a health care issue; we have a cost issue. The cost of health care is high, but what insurance companies actually pay providers is a fraction of what is billed. Health care in the US is the best in the world. Why change the whole thing, when there are areas that need to be reformed. There is so much wasted money in medicare and medicaid and there are huge lawsuits that sky rocket costs. Why don't they just open up a medicaid type program that uninsured can buy into. Maybe have a small copay? Open up the state lines to the insurance companies so there is more competition. Allow small businesses to come together to get get better group rates on insurance. The actual number of uninsured at any one time has been greatly exaggerated, so why should we force a government plan on approximately 87% of those who don't need it. There are over 1000 pages to this plan, and I don't believe even the president has read it. There is a part in it that states you can keep your insurance, but if you change jobs, you need to go to the government plan. Your existing plan is grandfathered in, but you can't carry it to your next job. Also, the congress won"t have this insurance for the first five years. If it is so great, shouldn't they be the first in line? These are only a couple of things that has been overlooked by people. There are many many more things that we should be concerned with. Why such a hurry to pass something that the American people don't have all of the details on? I'm actually tired of the government thinking that they know what is best for all of us. They work for us, and we need to wise up and educate ourselves before we wake up and it's too late. One more thing, it was reported this morning that the head of the CBO, who last week reported that this plan would not save money, but would actually cost more money, was called into a private meeting with Obama. This is totally against protocol. It seems that anyone that doesn't agree with the President gets called into a meeting. It sounds like Chicago politics to me, and being born and raised there, I know.

Posted by: kjb5 | July 22, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

BoBo and his BoBoettes are pushing hard to get the health care bill passed-and they either don't know, or more likely, don't give a damn whats in the thing. Example: after a certain date following passage--it will be ILLEGAL to own private health insurance. Additionally, after a certain date following passage, if an individual, paying the costs out of pocket goes to a private Dr. for treatment, then BOTH are subject to being jailed. Mandatory acceptance? Fines for not signing up? If this is their concept of freedom, then God help us. Oh, I forgot, BoBo says we are not a Christian nation.

Posted by: shep8851 | July 22, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama will never -I repeat NEVER- say to your face what he actually plans to do or achieve with these huge new government programs.

Rather, you get some calculating and specious auditory with styrofoam props to wow the plebes, like the tacky Greek columns in Denver. To him, the revolutionary ends justify the Alinskyite means- so the Dear Leader just tells you whatever he needs to, he knows what’s best for you anyway.
And the truth is that Obama is out to nationalize health care.. they’ll be no private insurance industry left after five years of Obamacare… but of course he’s lying about it.

As for the American public, the reality that Obama is not up to the job seems to finally be setting-in; the poll numbers are now headed steadily south- is he already facing his Waterloo on this legislation?

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com

Posted by: ReaganiteRepublican | July 22, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse


WHAT GOOD IS HEALTH CARE REFORM WHEN A FED-ENABLED 'PROGRAM' VIOLATES THE CIVIL AND HUMAN RIGHTS OF THE UNJUSTLY 'TARGETED'?
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FEMA, Secret Service, FBI, the U.S. military and intel agencies are among the federal enablers of volunteer community policing, anti-terrorism and town watch organizations transmogrified by Bush-Cheney into fronts for a nationwide, civilian Gestapo-like army.

This grassroots-based extrajudicial targeting and punishment "torture matrix" uses covertly implanted GPS tracking devices to stalk, harass, vandalize and terrorize unjustly "targeted" Americans and their families.

When "targets" travel, the GPS system alerts vigilantes affiliated with local units of this American Gestapo, and the harassment follows. Local police cooperation denies these targeted Americans their Constitutional right of equal protection under the law.

Silent, injury- and illness-inducing microwave and laser radiation "directed energy weapons" are being used to torture, and to degrade the lives of targeted citizens -- what could be described as a quiet, ideologically-motivated genocide.

Victims charge that members of this civilian Gestapo have infiltrated the health care system, calling into question the quality of the services they receive when they need hospital or emergency care.

And companion array of “programs of personal financial destruction — using the IRS as a political weapon — sabotages the finances of “target” families. Their telecommunications and U.S. mail appear to be subject to warrantless surveillance, interception and tampering — including the alteration of financial accounts and credit card and utility billing statements.

This cruel bypass of the American judicial system makes a mockery of the rule of law -- and political "dissidents," "whistle-blowers" and those considered to be social "deviates" are among its prime targets.

Civil rights advocates: Wake up and smell the police state that has co-opted POTUS and a deluded Congress into becoming enablers of vigilante injustice and domestic torture.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

See "GESTAPO USA" at NowPublic.com/scrivener ("stream" or "stories" list).

Posted by: scrivener50 | July 22, 2009 7:04 AM | Report abuse

To quote Reagan: "If not now, when? If not us, who?"

Posted by: nodebris | July 22, 2009 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: jumary

Health Care might need to be fixed, but Obama and Pelosi are not competent enough to do it right.
America is starting to realize that Obama has no idea how to do his job. People do not have faith that he knows how to do his job.

If not Obama then who? Newt? Republicans have had decades and all they do is stall, say there is no money, start wars, give tax breaks to the rich. Enough, Now is the time. NOTHING can be done by doing nothing.
Do SOMETHING even if it's wrong. You have had it your way for far too long.

Posted by: seemstome | July 22, 2009 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Health Care might need to be fixed, but Obama and Pelosi are not competent enough to do it right.
America is starting to realize that Obama has no idea how to do his job. People do not have faith that he knows how to do his job.

Posted by: jumary | July 22, 2009 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Twenty percent of what I make goes to insurance companies who tell me what doctors I can go to and what procedures I can have.
Everything is high deductible and high co-pay. Then I hope they don't deny the claim later. Sure, I'm as happy as can be with these pukes.
We found enough money to start the Iraq war.
We found enough money to give the rich their friggin tax breaks.
At this point I don't care if they SAY they don't have the money, they'll find it like they found the rest.
I want the insurance and drug monkeys off my back. No more B.S. Do it now!
That means you Lieberman.

Posted by: seemstome | July 22, 2009 12:19 AM | Report abuse

This isn't health care reform. My health care after this bill will be the same as it is now, only adequate. The problem for the President, and the Dems, is that the vast majority of the people in this country understand that this is the case. The vast WE get nothing from this bill.

Posted by: magellan1 | July 21, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

money corrupts; and, corruption is the reason
health care needs reforn, now, last week, and
since 1947 or before. corruption is evil and
it kills and is killing many Americans who
deserve better from their elected represen tatives and government.

Posted by: blacknight1 | July 21, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Icarter031:

Marry an ignorant young woman; have three or four children by her; obtain welfare and Medicaid for them and yourself. However,five years and its up. Lifelong welfare is GONE.

Posted by: sperrico | July 21, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

money corrupts; and, corruption is the reason
health care needs reforn, now, last week, and
since 1947 or before. corruption is evil and
it kills and is killing many Americans who
deserve better from their elected represen tatives and government.

Posted by: blacknight1 | July 21, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

TO sperrico | July 21, 2009 9:17

Read the Constitution; then the Bill of Rights. I don't see the promises of your lists of "rights" there, do you? By the way did you ever give anything to your country in exchange for your expectations? Or did you leech off what W2 slaves have provided? As for a job Obama promised jobs remember? Go demand one of him.

PM

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The Constitution and the Bill of Rights don't have a damn thing to do with it.

LC

Posted by: lcarter0311 | July 21, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

rightwing/dixiecrat/libertarian politicians
operating in plutocratic-social darwinistic
mindset have been destroying this country since they came on the ascendancy in 1980;
Reagan paid a huge price for their support in
1980 that culminated in the calamities of the
past 8 years and the present economic crisis
that threatens national security. These dixiecrat/rightwing/libertarian types have
never been any good for the country. Slavery, Jim Crow, anti-union, anti-civil
rights, the civil war, and a long time refusal to get rid of the feudal attitudes
toward government that are vestiges of the
antebellum south and jim crow south. their
policies have never been good for the south; so, why would anyone (northern republicans for example) want them running
the country; they have never learned to
operate government in a way that meets the
needs of all the people; and, they have a
very cruel modus operandi in government with regard to the masses.

Posted by: blacknight1 | July 21, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Icarter031 wrote:

Any country that DENIES it's own citizen's the essentials of life, e.g., Food, Shelter, Jobs, and at least some form of Basic Health Care and causes them to suffer or die because of Greedy Corrupt CEO's & Politicians are EVIL.

Read the Constitution; then the Bill of Rights. I don't see the promises of your lists of "rights" there, do you? By the way did you ever give anything to your country in exchange for your expectations? Or did you leech off what W2 slaves have provided? As for a job Obama promised jobs remember? Go demand one of him.

Posted by: sperrico | July 21, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Our dear leaders need to go back and re-read the document that they swore an oath to defend. NOWHERE is it the federal government's job to provide healthcare, buy car companies, bailout banks.... pretty much anything they do these days. NOWHERE.

Where are the Constitutional Lawyers? .... aside from the ones that are in the white house and congress shredding it as fast as they can.

Posted by: k6614 | July 21, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

The dems in congress needs to get behind President Obama and stop being little whimps worrying about their political careers.They know WE THE PEOPLE voted for change and that health care reform was and is at the top of that change list.Lets all be sure to remember any dems that dont get off their butts and help get health care reform at the next election.Just the other day i sat in a E.r. with my best friend for nearly three hours while she was so sick she could barely sit up for the long wait to see whatever doc was on call all because when she lost her job she also lost her healthcare insurance.This is not unusal its happening all across America and its not acceptable and its shamfull and wrong.Dems DONOT go on vacation before you all do right by the people that elected you all or at the next election you will be certain to be remembered by WE THE PEOPLE!!!Its time those dems in congress find some guts to do the right thing.

Posted by: smorrow | July 21, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

The only thing we are going to get is more taxation and bigger government. The Democrats are no different than the Republicans in the sense of who gets what job. GE gets bailed out and one of their executives gets a government appointment to the White House. Sound familiar.
We who are working and getting great health care benefits will be taxed to pay for those who do not get employment with benefits. Feel the pain cause it will get worse if this bill passes.
If Obama wants socialist government then move to France. Otherwise get people employed and off the government hand outs. Reduce government not expand it.

Posted by: wewilson1 | July 21, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse


Just what _is_ Obama's health care proposal?

Because the devil is in the details, the administration has avoided providing any.

We need health care reform, but no thank you to the smoke and mirrors the administration has offered so far. And the krap cooking up in congress would be a nightmare.


Posted by: WylieD | July 21, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

It's always somebody else's fault with Obama...

Posted by: idiparker | July 21, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

"Swirling doubts" in Congress about Obama's health plan. What the piece fails to mention is that the swirling doubts are held by non-radical Democrats. Republicans were left out of the process from the outset. Let Obama take on the rational members of his own party- there are a few left- who know that the economics of the plan spells disaster for the country which is already on the brink because of Obama's inability to understand economics. I left the Democrats some time ago so those moderate Democrats speak for me and millions of other thinking Americans.

Posted by: mhr614 | July 21, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Any country that DENIES it's own citizen's the essentials of life, e.g., Food, Shelter, Jobs, and at least some form of Basic Health Care and causes them to suffer or die because of Greedy Corrupt CEO's & Politicians are EVIL.


Posted by: lcarter0311 | July 21, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that attempting to reform the health care system is controversial, but the fact that 45 million Americans are without health care insurance is NOT controversial.

Posted by: case3 | July 21, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

The only ones who are against government run health care are the ones who have insurance that actually provides care. The number of people who have insurance is dwindling daily. Why do so many in the middle and upper middle class believe they are immune to the health industry's greed and corruption? Here you have a president who is trying to prevent a crisis, and there are people who rather see only the wealthy have health insurance. Wealth that only a handful Americans now have.

Posted by: amosgardner1 | July 21, 2009 7:59 PM

amosgardner1-
"wealth that only a handful of Americans have now"- surely you jest. My husband and I make less than $70k a year (combined!). We PAY for our healthcare. We don't ask for ANYONE else to pay for us. Please do us all a favor, all of you, go get a damn job a stop expecting a handout from me and my family.

Posted by: k6614 | July 21, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

How, luca, exactly, does trying to reform a system that will cost us more money in the next ten years than education, the wars, and entitlements combined, "blowing it"? Fail.

Posted by: donaltc | July 21, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Attack away...One termer. Jeez, 6 months in and he's already botched it. See ya Bambi.

Posted by: luca_20009 | July 21, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

The man doesn't even know what's in these bills. He admitted it. He's clueless as to why this bill is unpopular. Instead of attacking your critics Mr. President convince me you're right.



Posted by: theBozyn | July 21, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

The prez is doing a great job.
It's Congress that is not doing their job.
Congress needs to pass the New Deal to save the economy.
Congress needs to pass Universal Health Care.
Blame Congress.

Posted by: blakesouthwood | July 21, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Anybody about the 23yr alcoholic in England who was denied a liver because the doctors couldn't be assured he was deserving enough because they couldn't be sure he would stop drinking if he got a liver transplant.
Go to the NYTimes and read Peter Singer's article on healthcare rationing.
We will need to have it.
How about medical research/
Tort law; malpractice insurance for doctors and how will that work. People make mistakes and those affected sue.
That's one reason our healthcare costs are high.
What's the word on that?

Posted by: Chatelaine | July 21, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

The President said:

"Time and again, we've heard excuses to delay and defeat reform," Obama said. "Time and again, the American people have suffered because people in Washington played the politics of the moment instead of putting the interests of the American people first. That's how we ended up with premiums rising three times faster than wages. That's how we ended up with businesses choosing between shedding benefits an shutting their doors. That's how we've been burdened with runaway costs and huge gaps in coverage. That's the status quo."

Exactly right. We've already voted. It's time for Congress to get this done.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | July 21, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

RE: "the first thing our government should deal with is to get out form the economy recession"
====================================
What does this mean? Just asking...

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | July 21, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

The only ones who are against government run health care are the ones who have insurance that actually provides care. The number of people who have insurance is dwindling daily. Why do so many in the middle and upper middle class believe they are immune to the health industry's greed and corruption? Here you have a president who is trying to prevent a crisis, and there are people who rather see only the wealthy have health insurance. Wealth that only a handful Americans now have.

Posted by: amosgardner1 | July 21, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

the first thing our government should deal with is to get out form the economy recession

Posted by: ginger543000 | July 21, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

It time for the Government to stand for the people not special interest. Health Care Now Health Care for everyone. Delay by the GOP is not about overspending by the government. It is about HUGE Profits for Insurance & Drug Companies. The public option being available to everyone will provide affordable health care that would cut profits and produce new competition that would drive down profits. The public option will reduce costs and provice higer quality health care for those in need. President Obama keep up the fight you will win and it is win for everyone.

Posted by: kg4thepeople | July 21, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Health Care is not a democrats or republicans problem, but a failed congress problem. My kids dialises went up 20K this month.

There guys do not read the crap they vote on. VOTE!

Posted by: billisnice | July 21, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

He is upset because he wants it and he wants it now, after all, he is the boss. NOT> He is going to far, to quick, slow down and let the people decide. I do think we pay the bills in this country.

Posted by: highwaybluesoccer | July 21, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

40 state are laying for off and furlough for the ones staying. Where is the stimulus money?

Obama and Congress are failures. Listen to your local news for the truth. Vote all incumbents out!

Posted by: billisnice | July 21, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Why is Obama 'calling out' the republicans? For Pete's sake -- it is the blue dog democrats that have thrown a monkey wrench into the operation. Some leader for bipartisanship!!

For a guy who ran such a brilliant campaign, he sure is looking and acting like a novice politician in office. He best quit, repeat quit listening to Nancy Pelosi and her ilk!!

Posted by: wheeljc | July 21, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama: The time for talking is over - hurry up and pass the bill.

Obama: I am not familiar with the Sec. 102 of HR3200 that would ban private insurance.

Is this guy SERIOUS???

Posted by: pgr88 | July 21, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

MR. PRESIDENT: Have you even READ the bill?
MR. PRESIDENT: Has ANY one read the bill in its entirety?

I would like to read it and see for myself where the money is going to come from to pay for this; how it affects other programs (or not); and what items have "slipped" into this bill that aren't even health related.

Where can I view this bill? What happened to Transparency and Accountability? When does the American public get to really weigh in on this? How many calls does each states' senator and congressional rep have to receive before they actually act/vote on OUR behalf (I think they're beginning to get the message!)

A change you can believe in. Right. How much MORE money can the federal government spend before we're in the same boat California is in AND WORSE? Wake up people!

Posted by: rezgirl59 | July 21, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

"Quote all the polls you want, but everyone, I mean everyone I have spoken to and that I know personally, support our President and wish the Republicans would dissolve as a Party."

Spoken like a true ACORN employee. Sigh, our tax dollars at work.

Posted by: k6614 | July 21, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

If there is one thing we have learned about Obama is--HE IS A LIAR!! ANYTHING THIS TURD SAYS CANNOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. HE IS A LIAR!!!

Posted by: charko825 | July 21, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Have you noticed how blatantly the Post is leaning left on this issue? Amazing - anybody who doubts the wisdom of Der Fuhrer's plan is on the take.

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And, according to you, anybody who agrees with Obama's plan is somehow "leaning left" with "Der Fuhrer", the "liar" and "fraud".

Perhaps you'd get better results without the name calling. Then again, maybe not.

Posted by: mikem1 | July 21, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Everyone I know want a Health Care Public Option, and I personally can't wait for the Senators race for Congress start. Republicans, bye bye.

Listen, we in America are not as stupid as Congress must think we are. We don't care about the polls taken by the local or cable news stations on how President Obama is doing. Why, they don't reflect how mainstream Americans that VOTED for him feel. WE STILL LOVE OUR PRESIDENT, AND SUPPORT HIM ON ALL FRONTS.

We have a deaf ear when it come to the negative statements being made about the decisions OUR PRESIDENT make. One lesson the Republicans should learn is "When you continually speak in a negative tone and offer no positive information, we the people stop listening to you."

Quote all the polls you want, but everyone, I mean everyone I have spoken to and that I know personally, support our President and wish the Republicans would dissolve as a Party.

One more thing, California's Governor is another prime example of how Republicans operate. Everywhere they go, debt seems to follow.

Posted by: ohb4usa | July 21, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Have you noticed how blatantly the Post is leaning left on this issue? Amazing - anybody who doubts the wisdom of Der Fuhrer's plan is on the take.

This thing is a hugely costly mistake that we will be paying for long after Obama is out of office. Obama is a liar and a fraud, and he is spending our grandchildren's money on his socialist experiment with America.

Posted by: hill_marty | July 21, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

"TO RIG OR NOT TO RIG" votes in Congress and Senate that is. Progressives in Congress say the congress is still liberal and needs to move to the left, a lot more to the left. America's hopes and dreams now are in the hands of about 60 democratic elected members of House who hold the hearts and souls of American citizens in their finger that pushes the button that casts the vote. Republicans are just there and are of no significance except to vote with the 60. The 60 or so democrats have in the past cast votes for personal gain with their district. Their district will suffer along with the rest of our nation if they go with the Progressives. Progressive democrats are the ones who write law and liberals are the ones who vote lock step and do not feel compelled to read as long as there is something in it for them personally. Let us hope that America's plea to these 60 will overcome greed and corruption for an answer that is right for America.

Posted by: nyokie | July 21, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

It goes without saying that whatever health care plan is enacted -- if one is enacted -- it will be imperfect. If, however, a public component is a significant part of the mix, it at least will lay the foundation for a future single-payer system that offers the maximum in efficiency, economy, and improved delivery that most say they desire.

Obviously, many in the Congress will do what's best for the private insurance industry, whether through conviction or venality or both. It'll be interesting to see if the Congress can prevail over the enormous propaganda campaign being waged by the insurance industry and the easy money the industry is offering to them.

Posted by: SamThornton | July 21, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Mr. President-
Please publish the delayed budget report. The ONLY person(s) in a hurry for health care reform and cap and trade is you and congress. Presumably the reason for the delay in publishing the report is because we're in a world of hurt here and you will never get your ambitious agenda through if the American people are made aware of just how bad it really is. If the plan doesn't really go into effect for a year or so, what's the hurry?

You are clearly demonstrating that you don't care what the people want. While you state it's "not about you", it is. It's what you want Mr. President and there are many that are now realizing this. The American People be damned.

I honestly, and sadly, have read about this type of tyranny in history. Never, in my wildest dreams, did I think I would live to see it.

We have truly moved to taxation without representation. I am APPALLED with the Czars.

I didn't vote for you but I have to live your actions. Yes, "you won" and yes, America sadly has lost.
John Q. Public

Posted by: k6614 | July 21, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Health care reform legislation is a matter of priorities. Don't tell me we can afford 2400 new state-of-the-art air force fighter planes but not health care reform.

How will increasing unemployment affect this debate? Will more folk on the Hill have some "splainin" to do?

I trust President Obama is not making a mistake by acquiescing to Congress on the timetable for passage of health care reform legislation, because Congress is nothing if not expert at dragging its feet and passing the buck.

Posted by: Kelly14 | July 21, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

rightwing/dixiecrat/libertarian politicians
operating in plutocratic-social darwinistic
mindset have been destroying this country since they came on the ascendancy in 1980;
Reagan paid a huge price for their support in
1980 that culminated in the calamities of the
past 8 years and the present economic crisis
that threatens national security. These dixiecrat/rightwing/libertarian types have
never been any good for the country. Slavery, Jim Crow, anti-union, anti-civil
rights, the civil war, and a long time refusal to get rid of the feudal attitudes
toward government that are vestiges of the
antebellum south and jim crow south. their
policies have never been good for the south; so, why would anyone (northern republicans for example) want them running
the country; they have never learned to
operate government in a way that meets the
needs of all the people; and, they have a
very cruel modus operandi in government with regard to the masses.

Posted by: blacknight1 | July 21, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Can't let the economy or jobs get in the way of his personal quest for Mt. Rushmore. After all, he's already avoided losing millions of government jobs and billions in union benefits.

Posted by: JoeTH | July 21, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Of all the comments of how great our Health
Care system is, nobody none of the nasayers have produced an alternate plan. My son-inlaw died with cancer, he was working, but when he go sick his job let go, therefore his health insurance was canceled, when the Doctors found out they stopped treating him. So we need a Government run Health Care system. The United States dosen't have a Health Care System. We have a group of business who specalize in Health Insurance and are not regulated. They don't work togather, Hopitals don't or can't communicate with each other or Doctors offices.
This is not a system.

Posted by: dmontrose2 | July 21, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

This is the time ... and Obama is the man ... he dares to be a ONE TERM President to ensure that it is not politics as usual Democrats or Republicans ... and I support him. Most Presidents are watching the polls and mid-term elections NOT THIS ONE

Posted by: amitchel | July 21, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

We need A PUBLIC OPTION ... this is not socialism ... this is America. We also need Immigration Reform ... this is especially a heavy burden on California

Posted by: amitchel | July 21, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, Obama just few days ago told us to back off pressuring the 'centrists' Democrats' Now he is asking us to pressure these sell outs. May be it is to late, sir. You let they poison the waters perhaps for good.

Posted by: bluelagoon21 | July 21, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Steny Hoyer says House Democrats can't even come to consensus. They have a 60-70 seat majority and they cannot come to a consensus.

The Liberals tried a fascist takeover of the U.S. government and it failed.

Posted by: hz9604 | July 21, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

The BAD GUYS in the room are the health Insurance Companies ... I don't care much even if a black man is at the top of some of these companies. Insurance companies and their agants like to make the group/pool bigger ... because in the end it provides the CEOs and agents with hugh bonuses. This is how you can sit at home and get rich doing nothing but fleecing the people and parade your wealth and extravagance on housewives of Orange County

Posted by: amitchel | July 21, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Most Republicans and conservative Democrats seem to care more about ensuring the wealthy do not pay higher taxes than expanding health care insurance to the uninsured. The vast majority of Republicans will almost certainly vote any true health care reform bill, in part to try to politically weaken president Obama, as they did to president Clinton before the 1994 Congressional elections.

Obama, though, is showing inadequate leadership. He should state specifically, not in his customary general, vague phraseology, what must be in a health care reform bill for him to sign it. These should include a viable public option, minimum 400% subsidies for those required to purchase health care insurance, no confiscation of income as a penalty, a higher tax on the wealthy and no tax on employer paid benefits.

Clinton seemed wobbly at first, so many in Congress thought they could enact legislation regardless of his policy initiatives. Many in Congress, especially conservative Democrats, seem to be politically uninhibited in opposing the president on key aspects of health care reform. He needs to assert his leadership more vigourously to prevent this from happening.

Posted by: Aprogressiveindependent | July 21, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

At the Rose Garden today, President Obama again said two things that were, shall we say, misleading.

First, "If you like your health insurance plan, you can keep it." In the House bill, there is a "grand-father" clause on page 16 that does allow you to keep your plan -- as long as it is not changed in any way. If the plan is changed, say to add a new drug (swine flu vaccine, e.g.) or procedure, the grand-father clause is revoked and the plan then has to provide for all the items in the public "option." This is not keeping "your" plan -- this is changing your plan. Premiums will skyrocket when pre-existing conditions, well-baby care, etc., not currently covered, have to be covered.

Second, "You won't lose your insurance if you change your job." A new hire being added to a private health insurance plan also is a "change" that cancels the grand-father clause. Again, this is on page 16 of the House bill and again premiums will skyrocket for the employer and the existing employees.

Also, if the goal is to have a public "option" to compete with the private sector, why is there a grand-father clause at all? Those are used when you want to phase something out.

Posted by: harry9 | July 21, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I think we need to pass the health care bill by all means by August. I know that Republicans are the biggest menace, and they are the losers of the next elections if it is not passed. Pres. Obama is great to stick to his word. We need to have government-run-health care in the nation. Of course, AMA, Hospitals,Insurance groups, Pharmacy companies and now Congressional Budget Office(Bribed??) are the biggest robbers in the nation and opposing apart from Republican idiots. Well, people are watching on internet. Next elections, these guys will meet the same fate as John McCain. It is the time for health care fix. Pres. Obama, you have my support. Please go for it. Stick to your point clearly. My vote for you. God bless you and the nation, USA.

Posted by: kishen1 | July 21, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"We're closer than ever before to the reform that the American people need and we're going to get it."

What American people? He means illegal Mexicans waiting for amnesty. What reform? Sounds like Obama just wants a new unionized Democrat dues paying bureaucracy to decide when it's time for you to die.

By God, you're gonna get this crapola reform, like it or not. Obama won by a few percentage points so by God, bend over and prepare for change.

Posted by: greg3 | July 21, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

I like Obama's plan because it introduces many efficiencies that with be cost saving the the long run.

It is obvious that the Insurance industry - and the private giants like AIG do not benefit from this type of competition. I often wonder how the rich get rich and stay rich ... they sell insurance!! And like old Republican Bush policies they are meant to scare you into over insuring as the agents collect on the policies - whether individual or group. AIG (do we own it now) insure bad loans, huge risks and when it comes to human beings insurance companies are quick to find why your health risk does not count/pre-conditions. It is truly sad ... we really do need a public option ... I am even soft toward co-ops as long as we get health insurance companies to compete in the market place ... not just compete to RAISE RATES.

Posted by: amitchel | July 21, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Obama is learning that both major parties sell themselves to the healthcare and other corporations. Fortunately, he is now showing some spine and standing up for the American people. We are the only "civilized" nation that does not have a humane healthcare system. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

Posted by: revbookburn | July 21, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, Obama just few days ago told us to back off pressuring the 'centrists' Democrats' Now he is asking us to pressure these sell outs. May be it is to late, sir.

Posted by: bluelagoon21 | July 21, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to RESPOSIBILITY! Yes the current system does not work and Obama's proposal does not fix the propblem. So why are we expected to jump out of the pan and into the fire. Obama's proposal is 1000+ pages and he expect everyone not to read and sign it. what happened to common sence...Read before you sign.

Posted by: kevinholliday | July 21, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS IT!

The healthcare reform bill released by the House Of Representatives is an excellent bill as I understand it. It's a bill with a strong, robust, government-run public option, and an intelligent, reasonable initial funding plan to cover almost all of the American people. It is carefully written, and thoughtfully constructed, informed, prudent and wise. This bill will save trillions of dollars, and millions of your lives. It is also now supported by the AMA.

This is the type of bill that all Americans can feel good about. And this is the type of bill that has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of healthcare for all Americans. Rich, middle class and poor a like. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and all other party affiliations. This bill has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of life of every American.

The house healthcare bill should be viewed as the minimum GOLD STANDARD by which all other proposed healthcare legislation should be judged. All supporters of true high quality healthcare reform should now place all your support behind this healthcare reform bill released by the United States House Of Representatives, as the minimum Gold standard for healthcare reform in America.

You should all now support this bill with all your might, and all of your unrelenting tenacity. This healthcare bill is a VERY, VERY GOOD! bill for all of the American people. Fight tooth, and nail for every bit of this bill if you have too. Be aggressive, creative, and relentless for this bill.

From this time forward, go BIGGER and DEEPER with the American people every day until passage of healthcare reform with a robust, government-run public option.

FIGHT!! like your life and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. BECAUSE IT DOES!

SPREAD THE WORD

Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&feature=player_embedded)

God Bless You

Jack Smith — Working Class

Posted by: JackSmith1 | July 21, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"...swirling doubts in Congress..." That's how Michael Fletcher describes Congression reaction to the current massive push from over 70% of the American people in favor of a single payer, Medicare For All, National Health Care Plan.

Yet if you ask any Congressman or Congresswoman over 65 if they would give up Medicare, or if they would run on an anti-Medicare platform, the resounding answer would be a muffled "No."

Pay attention to that response, America. There's a message there somewhere.

Ange Lobue, MD, MPH, BSPharm
American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology
Academy of Television Arts and Sciences
trinidadca@gmail.com

Posted by: AngeLobueMDMPHBSPharm | July 21, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Forcing people of modest means to use their food money to purchase health insurance is madness. Taxing the health care benefits of the middle class to pay for another welfare entitlement is not appealing. Robert Bird just went to the hospital for an infection, and almost didn't get out, because he got a worse infection while staying there. You hear this type of story again, and again- One of my mother's patients just had the same thing happen to her. Forcing more people into these old cesspool facilities is only going to exacerbate the problem. These huge insurance companies, and HMOs are like classic slumlords, and have been collecting premiums for decades without reinvesting in our health delivery system. The best places to go are small, one doctor clinics, but most doctors can't afford to work for themselves, because of the cost of malpractice insurance. The voluminous, unchecked onslaught of lawsuits during the past few decades has caused most doctors to forgo going it alone, and as a result, larger institutions are formed, decreasing personal accountability for all staff, thereby increasing mistakes, and also, increasing the volume of patients into one facility, causing cross infection, and systemic sepsis throughout the dispensary platform. The solution to affordable health care lies in higher standards of care, personal responsibility, and tort reform, and none of this costs a dime. Throwing money at a problem, and taxing the pants off the American public will not solve these woes.

Posted by: davideconnollyjr | July 21, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

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