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GOP Pushes Health 'Bill of Rights'

By Ben Pershing
Republicans launched their latest salvo against President Obama's health-care reform plans today, repackaging their existing criticisms of his proposals as a new "Health Care Bill of Rights for Seniors" that immediately drew return fire from Democrats.

Having seized on the idea that Obama's reform plans represent a "risky experiment," Republicans have lately intensified their health-care message toward the elderly. The Republican National Committee's "bill of rights" includes calls to "protect Medicare," "prohibit efforts to ration health care based on age" and "ensure seniors can keep their current coverage." Taken together, the list does not represent an actual reform proposal -- congressional GOP leaders have so far failed to introduce a plan of their own -- but rather a series of things Republicans believe reform should not do.

RNC Chairman Michael Steele amplified that message in an op-ed Monday in The Washington Post, writing that "under the Democrats' plan, senior citizens will pay a steeper price and will have their treatment options reduced or rationed."

Steele also referred to the GOP's "contract with seniors," coining a phrase similar to the "Contract With America" that was credited with helping Republicans capture control of Congress in 1994. "The Republican Party's contract with seniors includes tenets that Americans, regardless of political party, should support," Steele wrote.

Many of the charges made by the RNC are the subject of fierce debate, and Obama has repeatedly sought to counter health-care "myths" amid polling evidence that conservatives' charges are resonating with the public.

Democrats wasted little time Monday striking back against Republicans' new offensive.

"The Republican Party has to take responsibility for their lies and hypocrisy," Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) said on a conference call organized by the Democratic National Committee. She described the GOP's manifesto as "simply riddled with lies" and designed to "scare senior citizens."

The topic of end-of-life care has been particularly controversial, with many conservatives accusing Democrats of endorsing draconian measures toward the terminally ill despite conclusions from nonpartisan fact-checking groups that Democrats' proposals are being distorted. The GOP's bill of rights says it would "prevent government from interfering with end-of-life care decisions" without specifying what "interfering" means or how the government would do so under Democrats' plans. Both the bill of rights and Steele's op-ed contend that Democrats would "raid" $500 billion from Medicare, a charge that also has been debunked by FactCheck.org.

"A bill of rights for seniors should at least include the right to be told the truth," Edward Coyle, executive director of the Alliance for Retired Americans, said on the DNC's call.

By Ben Pershing  |  August 24, 2009; 4:28 PM ET
Categories:  Health Care  
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Comments

Never underestimate the stupidity of the American public. The Republicans protecting Medicare; that program of socialized medicine? I don't think so. Wait a minute! Maybe they want to privatize it, like they tried with Social Security.

Posted by: nwsjnky1 | August 27, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

IS UNITED HEALTH CARE PAYING $108,000.00 DOLLARS A HOUR TO THEIR CEO.????HOW MANY PEOPLES INSURANCE WOULD THAT PAY????

PLEASE POST THE SALARYS OF ALL HEALTH CARE CEO'S

Posted by: theoldmansays | August 27, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WAKE UP GET OFF THE LOBBIST PAYROLL AND WORK TOGAUTHER TO TAKE EXCESSIVE PROFITS , MILLIONS IN ECESSIVE SALARYS [GOOD SALARYS YES] MULTI MILLION OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS NO. HEALTH CARE IS CHOOSING WHO TO COVER I'VE HAD THEM DENY COVERAGE. COVER PEOPLE TAKE OUT LOOP HOLES. NO FREE COVERAGE AT EMERGENCY HAVE INSURANCE TO COVER THOSE CALLS EVERYBODY IS COVERED...NO SUPER EMERGENCY BILL FOR TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR. WE CAN REFORM AND SAVE MONEY CHECK OUT THE GREED AND YOU WILL AGREE.

Posted by: theoldmansays | August 27, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Why was Martha Stewart locked up? Was it not for lieing? What is the difference between what she did and what some of people in the republican party are doing? Should't they be held to the same accountability?

Posted by: bulldogtime2 | August 26, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

From the party that did nothing to investigate an unnecessary war in Iraq, torture and violation of international treaties, no-bid long term contracts, little regulation and a resulting free falling economy, spying on US citizens, a Department of Justice that was so corrupted by politics Democrats are obligated to investigate its excesses, you expected what?

From the party that brought you Lee Atwater and Karl Rove you thought they would do what?

From the party that has opposed minimum wage laws, children’s health insurance and gave huge tax cuts for the wealthiest, you were anticipating what?

We have seen the GOP promulgate lies and disinformation for decades thinking this will somehow garner them additional support. Let's get real. The GOP could care less about middle or poor Americans. They have shown their stripes time and again. This is just another case of the same old thing.

Posted by: PJW5552 | August 26, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

As usual the GREEDY OLD PARTY has nothing for the American people but please don't do anything that might take something away from the insurance companies. I see where the CEO of United Health Care only makes $108,000 an hour, I hope you Repubs all believe this is okey. I know all of you can't be stupid.

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | August 25, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

"I wish someone would pull the plug on the GOP.Posted by: JRM2 | August 24, 2009 7:10 PM"
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TRUE THAT JRM2, TRUE THAT!

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"I tend to ignore the GOP. They make something negative out of everything."

VERY, VERY well said tinyjab40! The time will come as their numbers are shrinking!

Posted by: merf-1 | August 25, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS THE GOP- I WOULDN'T TRUST ANYTHING FROM THEM ANYMORE- any means, any lies to return to power?
-NOT GRANDMA APPROVED -

""The Mt. Shasta News reports that at a recent town hall in Redding, Republican Rep. Wally Herger went out of his way to praise a man who stood up and identified himself as ”a proud right-wing terrorist,” calling him “a great American.”
Yes, you heard me right: Rep. Herger, a Republican Congressman from California, publicly praised a self-described right-wing terrorist. That’s outrageous."

Posted by: macdoodle1 | August 25, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Bill of Rights??? What the ***k does the GOP know about rights? I cry for the country with such idiots as Steele in charge of the opposition. A plague on their house!

Posted by: nymec | August 25, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

The Repuglicans have bankrupted this country & they are bankrupt of solutions to save this country. The bankrupt solutions that the Repuglicans had were soundly rejected at the polls & voters have said NO!!!! to FAILED POLICES!!!!

Posted by: asclepious2 | August 25, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Yes, tinyjab40, the Repubs would spin an immediate turn around in the economy in a negative way toward the Dems. They would say that the Dems turned it around on the backs of "your children and your children's children." What I wonder is why anyone, including the MSM, pays any attention to the Repubs anyway. Seems to me that they're pretty irrelevant. As far as the "children's children" argument; we've gotta to what we've gotta do, and the sooner we get about it, the better off we will all be, including our "children's children!"

Posted by: nwsjnky1 | August 25, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Go Glenn Beck!!! All this b/c Beck said Obama was a racist??? Are you kidding me?
This is a joke!! Obama is a racist.

These sponsors that pulled their ads from Fox, appear weak and it's really their loss. Not a smart move at all b/c Glenn Beck has a huge audience following. Actually, these companies that pulled their ads should in return be boycotted. It's no sweat off of Fox's back especially with Glenn's ratings.

Posted by: annlawler26 | August 25, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I saw someone who posted something positive about Glenn Beck! If Beck was so wonderful, then why have almost every one of his sponsors pulled the plug on him? He is a CIRCUS FREAK like Limbaugh (the 500 lb man with 1/2 a brain), Hannity, O'Reilly (the dog face boy), Coultier (part man and part woman), etc. Hmmmmmmmmm.. I am starting to sound like the wing-nut nazi-cons!

Posted by: merf-1 | August 25, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

So the REPUBLICANS are using fear tactics to get the support of the old and the weak. Isn't this just their SOP?

Posted by: JoeNTx | August 25, 2009 7:40 AM | Report abuse

The GOP figures that anyone who believes the Weekly World News just might believe their outrageous lies.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | August 25, 2009 6:32 AM | Report abuse

I am on Medicare. To me the threat to Medicare is skyrocketing health care costs. If medical costs (and insurance costs) double in the next twelve years, as they are projected to, that is a much greater threat to Medicare than effective health care reform would be.

Why not just open Medicare to anyone of any age who wants to enroll? Couple that to a requirement that all people be insured and that commercial health insurers do away with abuses (pre-existing illness, huge deductibles, rescission, low caps on coverage). Then let them all compete.

I think this would lower costs and strengthen Medicare. Private insurers would thrive too. They would be selling their own plans as well as tie-ins out the ears.

I tend to ignore the GOP. They make something negative out of everything. If the economy totally and complete turned around today, the GOP (which caused the problem in the first place--remember Bush and six of his eight years with a GOP controlled congress?) would find some way to spin it in a negative way.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | August 25, 2009 6:26 AM | Report abuse

It’s time to start over on health care reform here is how.
Offering a choice in the United States to use free public health care funded by a national sales tax or using private systems paid for with private funding would allow proponents of each system the opportunity to use their choice.
Our country can have a robust private health care industry and a first class public health care service, coexisting, which will serve everyone in a straight forward helpful manner.
Paying for health care using sales tax revenues would be hundreds of billions of dollars cheaper each year than using private insurance and infinitely easier for everyone to manage.
Everyone shopping in the United States would pay pennies on the dollar supporting health care, citizens, immigrants, 40 million visiting tourists annually, and the rich, poor, everybody contributes.
All government mandated programs could be distributed through government hospitals at a fraction of the costs spent now by taxpayers to private systems, and the new system would produce true savings of hundreds of billions of dollars annually from the $2.5trillion spent last year, and no one would be left without care.
This solves the Medicare, Medicaid and all other government funded cost control problems that no one will talk about, while giving seniors an infinitely better deal, free care and medications, than we have today, it gives us a much better system than the convoluted reform being touted, and it will save hundreds of billions of tax dollars annually.
Government needs to become the basic necessities no frills provider of health care.
Businesses which select public care for their employees should have no further involvement to either pay anything for care or be involved in any way with health care.
Private insurance and care providers should no longer be required to subsidize indigent and preexisting condition patients or deal with government mandates.
Going back and forth between free public, and user purchased private care, may suit some people, and it would provide unlimited choices, ultimate freedom, and always free public care would be available when it is needed or desired to everyone who asks for it with no restrictions.

Posted by: BillWatson1 | August 25, 2009 5:25 AM | Report abuse

I've seen the insurance companies hack and slash my medical coverage over the years. Because I belonged to a fairly strong union, the medical care's been pretty decent, though it now costs me about $6,000 a year for the same care that was free 20 years ago--a cost more than matched by my employer. At month's end I'll be on medicare, which will cost even more, mainly because the Congress (and the executive) have been bought off by the prescription drug cartels. I do not understand why private insurance schemes are allowed to negotiate drug prices, while the federal government is not. That can and should be changed forthwith.

Posted by: stuck_in_Lodi | August 25, 2009 5:17 AM | Report abuse

Sorry I am just trying to decipher what are the actual facts of what is being cut from current federal health programs to pay for Health Reform.

Your comments haven't helped.

Posted by: jimjenson | August 25, 2009 4:10 AM | Report abuse

Well its the new and improved Bush "Contract with Big Pharma". New expanded benefits to include;at full retail price;Propofol for seniors who can not sleep because of FOX News Overdoses,and are not getting enough rest because of their busy "Town Mob" Schedules.
How about a math test? We spend X2 yearly the total outlays,compared to the rest of the civilized world for a crappy"For Profit" Health Care System,with worse outcomes.
We could save 50% of this yearly waste,that enriches the Insurance Crooks compared to Canada,Germany and France,and have enough money left over for a Universal Single Payer System for Pet Dogs,Cats,and Gold Fish.
The only down side to this reform;Who will replace all the bribes that Congress gets from our caring "For Profit' Heatlh Care Racket. With firms like County Wide,The Toxic Twins;Fanie and Fredie,and many Investment Banks out of business,can the remaining Zombie Banks step in and re-double their bribes?
Perhaps we could turn in the Senators like Grassley,a "Cash for Clunkers" Program,they seem to collect all sorts of civic minded "Contributions",funds which have to be paid by everyone that has a Medical Insurance Policy. Get rid of these crooks and save even more money.

Posted by: jeromejmarkiewicz | August 25, 2009 4:06 AM | Report abuse

jimjenson,

If you want your questions to be taken seriously, maybe you should read serious analyses of the various proposals under consideration instead of picking up information from internet sites and slippery sloping yourself into hysteria.

Tell me honestly, were you nearly as worried about Bush's boondoggles as you are about the gaps in financing in the health care proposals under consideration? At least the Democrats are being relatively straightforward in telling us the costs, unlike Bush, who bankrupted the country and left the next generation to foot the bill.

How about the costs of the Iraq war--at least 1 trillion dollars, billions lost to corruption, hundreds of billions never even put onto the official budget, the total bill for a barely functional state coming on average to at least $3000 for every man, woman, and child in this country? Do you really think that you won't be paying the bill for this eventually? Or how about Bush's prescription drug plan, costing hundreds of billions? He didn't even bother finding the money for this program, leaving it to future generations to fix. Or how about Bush's bailout of Wall Street Firms, costing some 700 billion dollars and benefiting primarily the richest citizens in our country?

I suspect that your worry about taxes is very selective. If a Republican bankrupts the Republic, you will likely praise him or her for not raising taxes, just as long as you never see the bill (your children will, however). If a Democrat proposes a plan that will ultimately reduce health care costs for everyone, you will pick at discrepancies and whine about the taxes you will have to pay.


Posted by: GeorgeSanders | August 25, 2009 4:02 AM | Report abuse

Kaiser Health News
Aug 16, 2009

The White House released a transcript of President Barack Obama's remarks and town hall meeting in Grand Junction, Colorado's Central High School on Aug. 15, 2009.
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Now, what I've proposed is going to cost roughly $900 billion -- $800 billion to $900 billion. That's a lot of money.

So about two-thirds of what we're talking about is paid for through the existing health care system, money that's already being paid by taxpayers -- does not require additional taxes. But that still leaves one-third.

Posted by: jimjenson | August 25, 2009 3:39 AM | Report abuse

Obama says two thirds of his $900 billion dollar health reform will come from cuts in current spending on government programs.

Two thirds of $900 billion is $600 billion.

If he is cutting Medicare buy $219 billion as claimed by factcheck.org where is the other $318 billion coming from?

Medicaid? Veterans Health? Indian Health? Federal Employess?

There seems to be a lot of misinformation about this issue, either the Pres. is not telling us the truth or factcheck.org is not telling the truth.

If the money isn't coming from Medicare then that will only mean higher taxes will be needed!

Posted by: jimjenson | August 25, 2009 2:56 AM | Report abuse

The GOP will support single payer too!
No?....give em a couple years - they'll turn all sweet on it and pretend it was their idea....just like this protect medicare voodoo they got going now... put down that dead chicken and jug of bats blood Steele!

Posted by: ryan_heart | August 25, 2009 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Ol' Br'er Rabbit will do anything to get his way. He pleads with the farmer not to toss him into the briar patch. The farmer obliges by doing just that. And, ya know what? Ol' Br'er Rabbit escapes! Same thing with Republicans and the health-care reform they don't want. Really, Really, Really. They don't want it. Because it may mean bad quarterly losses for their good buddies at the health insurance companies. So they siddle up to old folks and appear to endorse what they hate: Medicare. And they imply that Democrats intend to cut off their Medicare in order to fund health care reform. Lies! Deception! The business of America is Business, all right. To a fault.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | August 25, 2009 2:19 AM | Report abuse

It is difficult to tell whether the postings of
individuals such as ChooseBestCandidate represent the point of view of a rambunctious child or a mature moron. It is depressing to see coherent responses mixed together with this sort of incoherent gibberish.

It would be a great help to all of us reading this paper if the responses were moderated. First of all, only postings consisting of clear and grammatically correct English sentences should be allowed. Second, responses should exhibit some semblance of logic. Third, they should contain correct statements corresponding to what happens in the real world; i.e., facts. I would suggest that the rest of you transfer your literary activities to bathroom stalls.


Posted by: GeorgeSanders | August 25, 2009 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Richly ironic that the GOP has now enlisted in the cause of socialism, dedicated to "protecting" a government-run, taxpayer-financed single-payer system, i.e., Medicare. Shameless demagoguery, but probably effective to some degree. Of course age has something to do with medical decisions, particularly at the end of life. Kidney transplants for 90-year-olds? Come on.

Posted by: coy66ote | August 25, 2009 1:54 AM | Report abuse

Um... What was the point of this blog post?

There was no analysis or data interpretation done. It just seems that the author took a few statements about what each side was saying about the other. Most of the commentors fell for it and immediately started to argue one or the other side without any new information being added.

I'm sick of this crap being "news." When the Washington Post gives the head of the RNC a chance to write an op-ed that was essentially lying to the public. If it was given to balance out the President, that is a horrific excuse. Emotional lies versus factual data do not make an honest debate, they make great entertainment but terrible journalism.

Frankly, I'm sick to death of the culture of Washington D.C., I'm sick of statements about this or that, I want to know what is being done about actual problems. The Republican Party wrote two thirds of this bill and are the ones campaigning against it, Why isn't that being covered more? Oh yeah, that would require work.

Posted by: talan1231 | August 25, 2009 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Glenn Beck is cleaning obama's clock.
Glenn Beck is connecting the dots and
that has obama and his green czar shaking.

Walmart, -=-=-= CVS Caremark, -=-=-=- Clorox, -=-==-=-== GEICO, Sprint, - BOYCOTT THEM ALL, and tell them why.

Obama’s green czar (self-proclaimed communist) Johnson got these companies to pull sponsorhip for GLENN BECK.
WHY? Because Glenn Beck has been connecting the dots and digging up buried coffins.

))lets talk numbers. You can hire 2000 ACORNS to write letters complaining about beck.

when you have 40,000 actual people not buying your products and pulling their insurance with you… THEN you really have problems.

people are pulling their GEICO insurance and telling them why... isn’t that far more tangible than PAYING ACORNS TO LIE about glenn beck?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 25, 2009 1:35 AM | Report abuse

The leaders of the GOP are simply out of touch. Controlled by people that are ignorant and uneducated. Glen Beck
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GLENN BECK IS BRILLIANT.
obama TOLD you he was smart and you bought it. but the evidence is clear, now isnt it?

now we have obama's people trying to shut glenn beck up. WHY?

by the way instead of hindering beck they just increased his audience.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 25, 2009 1:26 AM | Report abuse

obama's numbers have slipped even farther.
i guess that's an indication; a hint?

YA THINK?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 25, 2009 1:23 AM | Report abuse

They must be kidding or setting seniors up for the long con.
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catchy words, but pls explain.
long con? specifics please?
what long con?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 25, 2009 1:17 AM | Report abuse

"The GOP is nothing but a bunch of looser's grasping for Straws and always playing a game of Politics!"

Posted by: lcarter0311

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SO!
if u not smart enough to conclude healthcare has zip to do with partylines then ... well... er...

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 25, 2009 1:14 AM | Report abuse

WE THE PEOPLE reject the snake oil you are selling. just go away.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 25, 2009 1:11 AM | Report abuse

[iterview with Michael Smerconish] obama promoted proposal for young people up to the age of 26 to get health coverage under their parents' insurance "

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the young dont have $$ of their own yet so he wants to grab any money they can put their hands on?

instead of giving BRAZIL 2BILLION DOLLARS TO DRILL OFF THEIR SHORES, why didnt he put that money in a healthcare system he "cares"(?) so much about?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 25, 2009 1:10 AM | Report abuse

The leaders of the GOP are simply out of touch. Controlled by people that are ignorant and uneducated. Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity all dropped out of college. All they can do is talk. Sarah Palin can't even put a coherent sentence together that makes sense. I saw McCain on TV over the weekend and he doesn't make sense some of the time either. I think I'd rather take a chance with Democrats and try to get them to lower our taxes and govern better.

Posted by: patrick8 | August 25, 2009 1:02 AM | Report abuse

The Republican record and stance on health care -
DON'T JUST DO SOMETHING - STAND THERE

Posted by: beefw1 | August 25, 2009 1:01 AM | Report abuse

hah!!

The GOP is embracing such socialist programs as Social Security Medicare/Medicaid. They must be kidding or setting seniors up for the long con.

Posted by: SteelWheel25 | August 25, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Lies, lies and more lies from the party of liars. Obama needs to call them out, and use that word freely. Time for him to show some cajones.

Posted by: DemoDevil | August 25, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Republicans "protecting Medicare!"

That sounds like a Karl Rove line - take the opposition's strength and your own weakness, and claim it as your strength.

It's so patently absurd and illogical the pundits will love it.

Posted by: boscobobb | August 25, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

death panels are not a reality..the legislation simply provides for payment to physicians if they provide counseling (information) to their patients concerning the legal choices available to them choices that have to be made by the patient while they are able to make the choice or leave the choice for their family to make for them..

Rationing, we have rationing now....full access to health care is provided only to those who can afford it...that may seem just fine as long as you are one of those who can, but walk that mile in the shoes of someone who can not...thank goodness I have never had to walk that mile...

Posted by: barbee2 | August 25, 2009 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Senator Tom Coburn, R-OK, threatened federal civil service pensions in comments on the Senate Floor, stating, "There is no guarantee to your federal pension based on the economics we face today in this country. If you think it is guaranteed you have another thought coming because the world economic system is going to determine whether we can honor that pension. That is what is coming. We are very close."

Coburn's remarks were are quoted from the Sept. 2009 issue of the magazine of the National Association for Active and Retired Federal Employees, at p. 10.

Posted by: esch | August 25, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

The GOP must think that most of us "seniors" are addled. The GOP is going to end up being a party that can gather all its members in one large room.

Posted by: rusty3 | August 25, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

gop does not believe healthcare simply applys to seniors.

you read the article and you know better so what is your purpose in presenting this in that light?

i might remind you democrat leaders have framed the healthcare as a GOP problem while it affects everyone.

HINT: REMOVE THE LOG FROM YOUR EYE before attempting to remove a spec from someone else's eye?

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 25, 2009 12:00 AM | Report abuse

death panels are a reality.
it another thing this administrtion tried to slip in but they got caught.

while they didnt dare call a spade a spade, Paline did. so you can call it petro. you can call it fuel. you an call it gas. we all use it to do the same thing.

when you limit the medication that can prolong one's life in favor of someone who you think of as more deserving due to what amount of workyears they can contribute, etc, that is called rationing. rationing is a death panel.

Posted by: ChooseBestCandidate | August 24, 2009 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Did you hear that seniors? The GOP will protect those Socialist programs like Medicare and Social security. And if you believe that I have dead moose I can sell you.

Posted by: Single_Payer | August 24, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

When are the writers of such pieces going to call the repubs out on their single tactic on just about all issues....selling FEAR. And there are cowards and those who cannot think for themselves who lap it up rather than see what is coming down the road if we do not change.

Posted by: mendonsa | August 24, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

What about the false claim in their Seniors’ Health Care Bill Of Rights that the Democrats are going to raise the cost of Tricare...while the Republicans claim they oppose it, it would seem they forget Rumsfield proposed to raise the cost and under Bush some veterans were cut from eligibility to use the VA for health care because their earnings were too high...something that has been changed since Obama became president.

Posted by: barbee2 | August 24, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Pull the plug and you will have exactly what you wished for...a dictatorship.

Posted by: ssol4569 | August 24, 2009 10:37 PM

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"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy - but that could change..."

"Let me reiterate what I've told the American people and the world. We will use whatever means are necessary to achieve our objective.''

"There ought to be limits to freedom!"

"When it is all said and done, I will have made more money than I ever dreamed I would make."

"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."

"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."

--GW Bush, Second presidential debate, Oct. 11, 2000

"Anyway, after we go out and work our hearts out, after you go out and help us turn out the vote, after we've convinced the good Americans to vote, and while they're at it, pull that old George W. lever, if I'm the one, when I put my hand on the Bible, when I put my hand on the Bible, that day when they swear us in, when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not to uphold the laws of the land."

--GW Bush, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 27, 2000

"When I was coming up, it was a dangerous world, and you knew exactly who they were," he said. "It was us vs. them, and it was clear who them was. Today, we are not so sure who the they are, but we know they're there." --GW Bush - Iowa Western Community College, Jan 21, 2000

ssol, you would have been fine with a Bush dictatorship.

You're a perfect Republican, moron.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | August 24, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Yeah...right...the GOP NOW supports government non-interference in end-of-life decisions?

Hmmmmmmm...Teri Schaivo...anyone?

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | August 24, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

It's official; the right wing are terrorists and supported by Republican Wally Herger.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#32545946

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | August 24, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is Ignorant.

You couldn't even get Rethugs to even Admit that this country was facing major Health Care Issues a week ago.

They LIED to the Kooks and the Seniors in this country concerning Advanced Directives.

And now, all of a sudden, they have come to SAVE the day, but for Seniors only, mind you.

Health Care Reform is about ALL AMERICANS and NOT just a SELECT FEW.

Does the GOP believe that the Health Care issues in this country only APPLY to Seniors.

No, it does NOT!

I am sure that many of these Seniors are also concerned about their Adult children and grandchildren.

Does the GOP believe that Seniors in this country are that STUPID and that they will allow themselves to be used by the GOP like a dirty dish rag and then be thrown away later for trash.

Noooooo.

The GOP is nothing but a bunch of looser's grasping for Straws and always playing a game of Politics!

Posted by: lcarter0311 | August 24, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

To assume the Commissioner of the Health Choices Adminiistration and the Health Benefits Advisory Committe will not make policy that is a defacto Death Panel is absurd. To deny such decisions do not already exist in the VA and prisons is a display of ignorance.

Posted by: johnlloydscharf | August 24, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

So far as I know the President has not proposed a plan of his own either. Much of his discussion about the insurance industry is just as much playing on fears and emotions as any talk of the Republicans about the elderly. What we need from all sides is to get down to work and produce some concrete legislation that can be explained to the public. Then it will be possible to understand who has the beef and who just wants to serve up some pepper.

Posted by: dnjake | August 24, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Sorry folks, both the GOP and the Democrats are pushing a lie. Medicare and Medicare are going broke, and have to be limited in some intelligent way. We can pretend the money is unlimited for *maybe* a decade. You can ignore reality, but it won't ignore you.

Posted by: ProfElwood | August 24, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Never mind - the GOP was just teasing ya seniors!

Posted by: ryan_heart | August 24, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Remember when the GOP (Boehner,especially) came up with their version of the budget? It was a folder filled with mostly blank pages that they said they would fill in later. Looks like they are doing the same thing with health care reform. 16 years after Clinton pushed for it, the repubs are still saying we should slow down and not get anything done quickly, while still offering nothing but blank pages.

Posted by: mikel7 | August 24, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

The swiftboating of America continues......

Posted by: SEADOGMB | August 24, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Best quote from all of this:

"A bill of rights for seniors should at least include the right to be told the truth," Edward Coyle, executive director of the Alliance for Retired Americans.

Well said. But the question I want answered is whether the republicans are being hurt by the exposed lies they are spreading? You'd think when politicians tell bold faced lies they would be hurt. But I'm thinking the republican party has been taken over by people who not only accept lies but approve of them to get their legislation through. Its no longer "My way or the highway", its "My way anyway I can get it". How long will America stand for such open lies in our politics? If no one suffers then Rove/Atwater have changed our politics forever.

Posted by: Fate1 | August 24, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

So it took the rebugs 6 months to come up with an almost believable skimpy empty promise?! ...wow am i ever - not surprised?!

Posted by: ryan_heart | August 24, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Funny, the AARP supports health care reform, while the Republicans would rather do nothing. Seems to me that seniors need to do more to educate themselves, rather than sit around in fear.

Posted by: maus92 | August 24, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Belief in the GOP message should be considered a symptom of Alzheimer's disease.

Posted by: angelos_peter | August 24, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

So when the token black man of the GOP speaks - seniors listen?!

(warning - if you have not done so already - please enter your right-wing-nut-senior-spin decryption key now)

Posted by: ryan_heart | August 24, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Bald-faced lies have worked for Republicans for years. Fear mongering has also worked very well for them.

Whay would you expect them to change?

Posted by: HillRat | August 24, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I wish someone would pull the plug on the GOP.

Posted by: JRM2 | August 24, 2009 7:10 PM

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Pull the plug and you will have exactly what you wished for...a dictatorship. Now that's real hope and change....right? No wait, dictatorships don't scare your type. Naw, that's just a "far-right" scare tactic. That is a "far-right" scare tactic right? I sure hope so...I would hate for that to come true! Yes, only Dems in power, that's the way to go...yes, I'm sure that's true, I think, GOD help us!!!!! This country is going down the toilet fast.

Posted by: ssol4569 | August 24, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

DEMOCRATS REFUSE to give up Huge Donations by Ambulance Chasers or Illegal Votes by ILLEGALS to get American Health Care Reform!

1) Ambulance Chasers: since Democrat Unions have wiped out most large companies, Shysters are the No#1 contributers to Democrats.

TORT REFORM > 10% of the $2.2 Trillion US Health Care Costs: $220 BILLION - (Defensive Medicine - extra tests, High Insurance Premiums - passed on and Lawsuits - 2% or $44 Billion annually)

2) ILLEGAL CARE -- Like Democrats taking E-Verify out of the stimulus Bill, so 300,000 Illegals take American Construction Jobs, and allegedly fight against Voter ID since one Nun in Ohio in the last election never had an ID ...

Democrats are once again selling us out to cover 12 Million illegals in Health Care to get reelected.

Posted by: ayrescayo | August 24, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

SO WHERE HAVE THE REPUBLICANS BEEN FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS...WHAT ABOUT THE COLA FOR SENIORS...2010 AND 2011...WE SENIORS ARE TIRED OF EVERYONE GETTING BAILED OUT EXCEPT US.

Posted by: lindalu1 | August 24, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are hoisting the Democrats on their own petard.

Posted by: TraderB | August 24, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT Super Putz's to run Health Care: although unable to run Post Office without raising stamp prices yearly or even Clunker Program ...

Dealers get a rough ride in cash-for-clunkers program
Los Angeles Times - Jim Puzzanghera, Martin Zimmerman - ‎1 hour ago‎
Red tape and computer glitches mar the program, which ends today. In response to complaints, Transportation Department extends the deadline for dealers to apply for funds by 16 hours.

Posted by: ayrescayo | August 24, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are pretty consistent. Once again they are trying to put out a contract on America.

Posted by: MTgrassland | August 24, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

The GOP had a decade to consider the problems with health insurance in this country and they did nothing. They want us to continue with Republicare (with the word "care" written small and loosely). The big insurance companies own the GOP, lock, stock, and barrel (ooh, notice the gun metaphor - how appropriate).

Posted by: oldwoman | August 24, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I think that the RNC has developed a sickness in their quest to make the President "fail" and they have become an enemy of the American people!!! Disgusting lies and distortions seem to be the only thing that the GOP has to offer in this time of national need.....

An Independent

Posted by: aeaustin | August 24, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Well, OK, the Party of "NO!" adds fear mongering to their repertoire. Why is no one surprised?

Posted by: jrw1 | August 24, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

jerdjon,
Remember what happened to the boy who cried wolf? Americans are not going to continue to listen to lie after lie. And when republicans try to bring up valid points or legislation no one will pay attention.

Posted by: Fate1 | August 24, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

So the GOP's big idea is... wait for it... do nothing.

Yet again.

Posted by: hitpoints | August 24, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I wish the GOP would stop using the word socialism, the word is meant to describe an economic system and not a political one. And we know why they don't want health care reform, they need their end of the year christmas bonus from the BIG INSURANCE companies. Please Washington Post don't publish their nonsense if has no merit. They are selling their souls.

Posted by: veteranSquared | August 24, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

'THE REPUBLICAN PRAYER' for Sept. --- led by Farter Limbaugh,--- " Dear Beelzebub we Repiglicans spiritual leader and guide., we honor thee, but we need more help,please." Beelzie ,Please send some more reinforcements from our side down there , resurrect them all, send our Hero's McCarthy, Himmler, Goebbels, Dahmer, Streicher , Mengele, Rasputin, Ivan, and Mansons spirit also.Rove is doing his ultimate best along with the Shooter' Cheney ' We must do more to destroy Pres. Obama in his endeavor to straighten out the Apocalyptic Mess we left behind. With all of our black and evil Hearts Beelzie, we must not let the Dem's to get Healthcare or anything else for that matter, and above all we need more War of any Kind, especially for Oil. Yours with True Love , your servant Boss Hog Limbaugh. P.S Beelz, thanks for the Fire protection.

Posted by: orionexpress | August 24, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

This is so rich. In their desperate bid to prevent the public from experiencing the benefits of a public option, the GOP has solemnly pledged to support Medicare, the ultimate public option, the same Medicare it points to when it wants to point out how evil government is. Yes seniors....the Republicans perfer that private sector bureaucrats be the ones to ration care and get between you and your doctor.

Posted by: Waterloo1 | August 24, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

jerdjon, you're just plain poison. Pure and simple. You ARE the problem along with the rest of your dittohead lemmings.

Posted by: 4Jaxon | August 24, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Is there a Bill of Rights to protect us from republikan lies and distortions? The retardican party is pathological in their distortions, misrepresentations, Karl Rovian tactics during health care town meetings and just plain anti-Americanism.

It's almost as if the retardican leadership have been bit by those snakes during their last tent revival with the Dobsons, Copelands, Roberts, etc.... either that or they were just born mean & stupid.

The repub party is starting to look like the front page of a cheap, gossip tabloid paper...

Posted by: 4Jaxon | August 24, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Quick, lets get a bill together to pump in an extra $300B into Medicare and do it by increasing taxes on the wealthy, then see how the republicans respond now that they are going to protect Medicare.

What dolts they are. Protecting us from their own lies. How stupid do they think the American people are ... Palin and her following excluded?

Posted by: Fate1 | August 24, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Looooooooooooooosers!

Posted by: whocares666 | August 24, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice how all these Big Corporation owned newspapers keep printing every statement by Cheney-Grassley-Steele-Palin et al. under the guise of "News"? No matter how easily their 'statements' are debunked, proven lies, or 'scare tactics'? Yet they keep doing it to keep muddying up the water. Not one of them ever comes out and declaritively states, in a Timely fashion, the lies and distortions they Know they are repeating. How about in depth information about which members of Congress stands to gain if Big Ins. wins? Why does the truth only get spoken in the comments section? Doesn't the WaPo staff think it incongruous that Republicans are "defending" Medicare, etc. all of a sudden, instead of trying to destroy/marginalize it? I could go on but Big Corps. only want to see inflamatory OP/ED pieces and headlines that say "Obama Approval Slips"--which remain for days and days.

Posted by: billalves714 | August 24, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

The Rethuglitarded party are reaching deep into the recesses of insanity for this worthless piece of garbage. Lee "Do Nothing" Terry (R-Nebraska), you have to be the most worthless of them all.

Anyway, the GOP (gay old perverts) is screaming that the Dems are trying to push this through. Anyone remember the "Patriot Act"? The GOP didn't scream when that thing was shoved through faster than Larry Craig can tap dance in a bathroom stall.

Dems should just be passing their legislation right and left; after all, they are doing something for the people of this country. The GOP just cares about the wealthy.

Posted by: camera_eye_11 | August 24, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

It is the official policy of the Obama Administration to single out senior citizens for the withholding of life saving treatment. They cannot lie their way out of this well documented fact. The Mengele twins, better known as Rahm and Ezekiel Emanuel are all in favor of ridding the world of old people, and the disabled. They intend to do this in the name of cost cutting and by reassigning expensive health care benefits to younger people that they view as "productive" citizens. For example, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel would deny care to seniors with dementia. Who else would this monster remove from the health care roster? It is only a short step to routine euthanasia and the sterilization of state determined undesirables. Of course, Obama would appoint special "panels" to assign those targeted for death or sterilization. Maybe, just maybe, Sarah Palin was not the idiot she was judged to be. Obama and his jolly band of inhuman cohorts are very dangerous people. Soon we may all be at their mercy. Our last chance may be the elections of 2010 and 2012. Our failure to remove these would be totalitarian elitists may be the final demise of the United States.

Posted by: jerdjon | August 24, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Michael "Your Momma's Callin' You" Steele has no credibility whatsoever!

He's bought and paid for by the GOP, and he's sold his soul to the devil.


Posted by: lindalovejones | August 24, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Pleeeeze! The GOP has never seen a social program that it didn't want to eliminate.

The GOP has been trying to gut Social Security and Medicare ever since Social Security and Medicare have existed.

Social Security did have surpluses in it (a al Bill Clinton) until Bush came along and borrowed ALL the money out of Social Security and Medicare then called them "insolvent", tried to move Social Security to the stock market where everybody invested in Social Security would have lost everything.

All the GOP knows how to do with money is spend it on wars.


Posted by: lindalovejones | August 24, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I understand that Op-Ed pieces present alternate views, but surely someone at the Post must fact-check and edit them. Well, perhaps not – Sarah Palin had a pretty badly written Op-Ed article a few weeks ago, and it was filled with misinformation, or perhaps outright lies.

Perhaps the Washington Post should, in fact, do some fact checking and editing before printing Op-Ed pieces, regardless of who writes it and what their political persuasion is.

On the other hand, Michael Steele once again has shown his inability to write logically and truthfully, just like the overwhelming majority of republicans - what a slimy bunch...

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Posted by: mkh19411 | August 24, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

What is going on in this country with republicans is totally insane. They are lunatics with nothing to offer.

Posted by: truth1 | August 24, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

This so-called Bill of Rights wants to "protect Medicare" ??
This would almost be laughable if it weren't so serious.

Weren't the Republicans against creating Medicare in the first place, and during the years since then they have tried in way possible to weaken it. Now they preach about protecting it?

I really hope people aren't dumb enough to buy this new line of lies.

Posted by: gerimay
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Well, they are.

It doesn't help that the Democrats are pusillaminous when it comes to doing what is necessary.

Posted by: HumanSimpleton | August 24, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I wish someone would pull the plug on the GOP.

Posted by: JRM2 | August 24, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

How does Micheal Steele tell a lie in each of the points of his "op-ed" and it gets published in the Washington Post.Is he writing a story for Rip Van Winkle to read? When did the points that Mr. Steele is talking about get fabricated. I think a normal editorial such as this one would never get off the floor of the editorial room.There have been many discussions of the lack of fact checking by bloggers. This man is the head of the Republican Party! I guess every part of the American media is publishing information that is dubious in both fact and quality.Has Mr. Steele listened to the Democratic party"s ideas and then decided to reshape them all in the conservative message. This is like copying someone's term paper in college and changing the words around. The scare tactics are pitiful by Mr. Steele. What bothers me the most is the position he holds in the Republican party apparatus. If he is telling bald face lies what are the rank and file members of his party doing? He has done a 180 degree turn on the Democratic positions I have read about.I don't sacam it harsh a word on his "op-ed".

Posted by: johnandsarahkuehl | August 24, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

We have a right to have health care reform with public option. We have a right to have public officials not be brothel-workers for the industry (either major party). We have a right to not be deceived or lied to by Palin and other pushers of the fabricated 'death panels' and 'threat to Medicaid' scare tactics. We have a right to rationally discuss the issue at Town Hall meetings without bussed in brownshirts and gun-toting teabaggers shouting down rational citizens. We have a right to media (Fox "News" comes to mind) that functions as journalists, instead of being propagandists. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

Posted by: revbookburn | August 24, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Could someone out there really tell me how many Republican Parties there are?

I seem to remember that the republican party has been trying to kill medicare and medicaid since they were put together by the Johnson Administration. They are too expensive and they are socialized medicine and they are big Government and they are the Nanny State, and they have to go.

Does ANYONE ELSE remember that party? Because some frauds are now trying to claim that the Republicans want to protect Medicare and medicaid. From, well, you guessed it, the Democrats.

??????????????

Reality check, but just about every republican in Washington regularly castigates those programs for being wasteful and socialist and... (hate to be so repetitious but the republicans have been just as repetitious for the last forty-five years.)

But that may be a sign of progress. Medicare and medicaid are now so deeply ingrained in the culture of the country that the conservative thing to do is to P R E S E R V E them.

Who says Republicans never learn.

(But they never change. back down on National Health care with a public option and they will forget they ever wanted to preserve Medicare and Medicaid. Just Politics, you know.)

Posted by: ceflynline | August 24, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

A "Health Care Bill of Rights" from the same people who brought us the "Contract on America."

The sad thing is--people believe them.

Posted by: Rdobrick | August 24, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

This should have come with a disclaimer:

"Hi I'm Michael Steele and I sold my soul to approve this sack o' crap."

Posted by: JohnQuimby | August 24, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

We should trust the party that voted against Medicare and Social Security to safeguard the elderly?

You're kidding with this, right?

Posted by: EnemyOfTheState | August 24, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

The right wants to continue to control every aspect of American's lives! Not this time! The PEOPLE are on to the ridiculous right's agenda and will not be raped by them again! We need to take back our country so that there can be healthcare for all, not just the few who can afford it! Fox is the righties almighty saviour however they don't know that Fox DOES NOT CARE ONE IOTA ABOUT THEM BECAUSE ALL FOX WANTS IS RATINGS!! That is why Fox employs circus freaks like: O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coultier, etc.
Where is the 500 lb man with the 10 foot wide pie hole? OOOPS, I already mentioned Rush Limbaugh!

Posted by: LKM2 | August 24, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

How about a "voters' bill of rights" that guarantees republicans will stop repeating lies meant to stop the President that we elected from doing his job?

Posted by: onestring | August 24, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Republicans -
the party of no.
the party of fear.
the party of lies.

The First Order of the Ferengi.

Ferengi - A culture characterized by a mercantile obsession with profit and trade and their constant efforts to swindle people into bad deals; also known for their business acumen and for exploiting females. Their religion is based on the principles of capitalism: offering prayers and monetary offerings to a "Blessed Exchequer" hoping to enter the "Divine Treasury" upon death, and fear an afterlife spent in the in the "Vault of Eternal Destitution".

Posted by: stodayxx | August 24, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Any REAL Health 'Bill of Rights' will conclude:

The right to medical treatment for all US citizens;

The right of any US citizen to take health insurance from job to job; and

The right of any US citizen to continue treatment for pre-existing conditions regardless of the insurance company with which one start treatment.

ANYTHING else is a lie and a fraud, which of course included ANYTHING Republicans propose.

Posted by: jjedif | August 24, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

What are Republicans thinking? This isn't socialized medicine!!! It doesn't even provide a realistic path to socialized medicine!!! Don’t they realize that they lost the election and that they are merely stalling the inevitable transformation of America from the land of the free to the land of the Euro-social-democrats? It is time that they realized that resistance is futile?

So what if Obama and his social democrat friends have to lie about with every breath about their “public option” to “single payer” to socialized medicine ambitions?

They won the election and have every right to force this change on the American people. Otherwise, what does "running the country" really mean? What good is democracy if you cannot enact your agenda without such inconvenient obstructionism? It really should be outlawed in favor of genuine cum ba yah collectivism.

It’s too bad the American people are so backward and stupid that the left cannot simply advance to Euro-social-democracy without having to engage so deeply in duplicity, dissembling, and subterfuge, in their incrementalist efforts to bring about change they can believe in, but that is politics. Well, at least for now it is, until we reach the tipping point to socialism and equality.

Posted by: RUKidding0 | August 24, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

THE GOP wouldn't know a right if it came up and bit them in the behind. They think it it is your right (not a privilege mind you)to carry a gun, but healthcare is not a right. Now any sane person knows it is just the opposite - healthcare is a right and carrying a gun, just like driving a car, is a privilege because it carries responsibilies with it. Privileges carry testing or responsibilites and rights are just inate. GOP know nothing!

Posted by: TimeforChange | August 24, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features.

Somehow your statement would not be necessary if you actually reported the facts.
Newspapers subscriptions are dying because you even have a post like this up.
I am sixty and every day I miss the good old days. FDR would never have pulled us out of the depression with such sorry reporting and before the wackos jump on the statement remember who was held in esteem by the republican party, Charles Lindberg. That was the man who did not want us involved in World War II.

Posted by: Judy_L | August 24, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the Republicans would take responsibility for their lies if the media would actually challenge them on the lies, instead of publishing the lie as "legitimate" news.

Hey, WaPo, are YOU up to the challenge?

Posted by: alysheba_3 | August 24, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I just don't understand the apoplectic fits the Republicans are having with Health Care Reform. Let's just quit stalling and pass something! Then, if parts turn out to be lacking, change them.

Posted by: ddeebbee | August 24, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

This so-called Bill of Rights wants to "protect Medicare" ??
This would almost be laughable if it weren't so serious.

Weren't the Republicans against creating Medicare in the first place, and during the years since then they have tried in way possible to weaken it. Now they preach about protecting it?

I really hope people aren't dumb enough to buy this new line of lies.

Posted by: gerimay | August 24, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

After pimping not-so-bright Sarah on Fox News with "death panel" lies, Rove's next stroke of propaganda is to prop up the hapless token Steel with more lies in the Opinion section of WaPo.

Must be nice to make up anything you want and know at least 23% of the population will unquestioningly swallow it whole. American saw through Rove's politics of fear, uncertainty and doubt as evidenced by the November elections. Let's hope those who voted for and are now discouraged with Obama's lack of balls to take on these bullies will remember what the alternative was in November and what it will be again in 2010 and 2012.

Posted by: coloradodog | August 24, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

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