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Reform Debate Looks Stuck Until Sept.

By Ben Pershing
As an unusually eventful August inches toward its end, a health-care debate that has changed markedly this month now appears roughly frozen in place until Congress returns from recess.

Key players in the health-care debate spent Thursday repeating what they had said before. In the Senate, the Gang of Six held a 90-minute conference call and essentially agreed to keep talking (though perhaps about a narrower bill). In the House, Nancy Pelosi made clear yet again that the chamber's initial bill would include a public plan. And President Obama reiterated that a) the public option is not an essential part of his reform plan; and b) his position on the issue hasn't changed. Obama also said Thursday, "I guarantee we are going to get health-care reform done." That's a bold statement to make, but if the reform effort fails, Obama will have larger problems to worry about than the inaccuracy of his predictions.

The new Washington Post-ABC News poll paints the latest sobering picture of Obama's political fortunes. "Public confidence in President Obama's leadership has declined sharply over the summer,' the Post writes, while ABC observes, "Health care reform overall, a political sand trap when last attempted in 1993, looks much the same in 2009." Skepticism on health care seems to be canceling out any benefit Obama could accrue from the improving economy. On the directoion of the country, 55 percent "see things as pretty seriously on the wrong track, up from 48 percent in April," the Post writes. "But there has been a notable increase in optimism about the length of the recession." And Charlie Cook judges that "this summer has slipped completely out of control for President Obama and Congressional Democrats," and that his statistical projection that House Democrats will lose six-to-12 seats next November "is far too low." (Obama meets today with Tom Daschle to talk reform. How might this debate be different if his nomination had survived? Discuss.)

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By Ben Pershing  |  August 21, 2009; 8:38 AM ET
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A One Sentence Summary of PelosiObamaReidCare (PORC)

A cabal of "do-good-in-the-hood" altruist-collectivists get a dose self-righteous pseudo-self-esteem by voting into power a vote-grubbing thugocracy, who get a dose self-righteous pseudo-self-esteem by "doing-good-in-the-hood," to take on the mission of using the power of the government to violate the individual rights of doctors, patients, and business owners by forcing these people to provide for the health care needs of others -- the truly and the not so needy -- on terms and conditions dictated by the thugocracy -- all with the political goal of turning these needy people into an entitlement group of greedy-needy parasites -- a reliable voting bloc -- that will -- in a truly vicious cycle -- guarantee the reelection of the vote-grubbing thugocracy, who will inexorably look for other opportunities to use the power of government to "do-good-in-the-hood" for other groups of greedy-needy parasites in exchange for their votes.


Dr. Gregory Garamoni

Doctors on Strike for Freedom in Medicine

http://www.doctorsonstrike.com

Posted by: GLGPHD | August 21, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

It would be much faster, cheaper and effective to just buy one-way tickets to Cuba or North Korea for all those who want socialized medicine and a socialist/communist country! They can take their comrades Obama and Pelosi with them. They have no right to transform the U.S. into another failed socialist country like Cuba just because they are dumbed down, as per Pravda: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0

Posted by: AntonioSosa | August 21, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

It's too bad we can't have a no confidence vote..and replace everyone in Congress... after that, we wouldn't have to worry about the administration.. they would get the message.. I've lost confidence that anyone in congress can objectively debate this issue..

Posted by: newbeeboy | August 21, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

From here on everything we read about will be for show. We will not know what is going on behind the scenes. There will be one bills passed in each chamber and a reconciliation will come out. People like the RealTexan will be very angry in the end and those wanting reform will be mildly unhappy but over time will be pleased. The health care debate will continue beyond the time of the bill is passed.

Posted by: Gator-ron | August 21, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Ever since 9/11 fears have risen among the populace that eiher a) we are about to be attacked, b) the U.N. or some other int'l entity is about to take us over, c) powerful players in our own govt. structures, including the CIA, the FBI, the IRS and the White House are harboring dictatorial ambitions for running roughshod over the voters.
The Bush-Cheney years were full of unstated policy objectives and backstage maneuvering, such as the secret prisons in Eastern Europe and the unlawful wiretaps that listened in on tens of thousands of Americans who had no connection to terrorist activities. We have thus reached a point where myriad thousands of citizens are unwilling to trust their government, especially if they did not vote for the party currently in power or else are smitten that "their" party is not in power.
The country seems to be rife with paranoia, bitterness, mistrust, and other forms of ill will.
Is it asking too much of one man, our first African-American or biracial president, to magically cut through all this mistrust and animosity and persuade the entire country that the healthcare reform is vital, sane, and well thought out? We desperately need Republican senators and representatives who know in their hearts that reform is imperative to stand up and articulate what they honestly see and believe--not what they are being pressured to say, or keep silent about, by their party's leadership.
Six or seven Republicans willing to demonstrate real political courage could save the reform effort.
On the Left Nancy Pelosi and company need to tone down their act, stop referring to protestors as "un-American" and engage in serious dialog with the Blue Dogs and with moderate Republicans. Sometimes you just cannot get everything you want in one fell swoop. The effort to reform our healthcare morass is gargantuan and highly complex. The public are scared and worried and in need of clearcut responses to their questions.
John Patrick Grace
Huntington, West Virginia

Posted by: publishersplace | August 21, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Had Daschle been confirmed, does that mean his tax problem would be available to hammer on in September?

Posted by: JakeD | August 21, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's set aside healthcare reform for now and pick it up again after the November elections.

Posted by: RealTexan1 | August 21, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse


GOV'T HEALTH CARE REFORM RINGS HOLLOW...

WHEN COVERT GOV'T PROGRAMS DESTROY THE LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS OF THOUSANDS OF UNJUSTLY TARGETED AMERICANS AND THEIR FAMILIES.


***


URGENT: President Obama, WH staff, members of Congress, cabinet secretaries

THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS WEAPONIZED THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM.

MICROWAVE / LASER 'DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPON' SYSTEMS HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED TO DEGRADE THE LIVES OF UNJUSTLY TARGETED AMERICANS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

A GOV'T-OVERSEEN GRASSROOTS VIGILANTE GESTAPO FRONTED BY COMMUNITY POLICING UNITS USES COVERTLY PLACED GPS DEVICES AND CELL PHONES TO STALK AND HARASS THOUSANDS OF UNJUSTLY TARGETED AMERICANS...

...IN EVERY COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY.

***

PRESIDENT OBAMA: WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DEPLOYMENT OF DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS...

...AND WHEN WILL YOU BAN THEIR USE ON U.S. CITIZENS?

...AND BAN THE WARRANTLESS GPS / CELL PHONE TRACKING OF INDIVIDUALS...

...THE ELECTRONIC BACKBONE OF AN AMERICAN GESTAPO THAT IS OPERATING ON YOUR WATCH.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA" ("stream" or "stories" list).

Posted by: scrivener50 | August 21, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse

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