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Two Liberal Groups Target Obama Over His Position on Public Option

Updated 6:13 p.m.
By Dan Eggen
Two major liberal groups launched petition drives Thursday demanding that President Obama endorse a public-insurance option as part of his drive for health-care reform.

The efforts by MoveOn.org and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee illustrate the widening fissures within the left over how to overhaul the nation's health-care system. Obama will address the issue in a prime-time speech to Congress next Wednesday.

Many Democrats and liberal groups have been alarmed by what they describe as signs of possible retreat by the White House on especially important issues, and they argue that jettisoning a public plan would amount to a betrayal of those who supported Obama's historic candidacy last year.

"We worked so hard for real change," the PCCC petition reads. "President Obama, please demand a strong public health insurance option in your speech to Congress. Letting the insurance companies win would not be change we can believe in."

PCCC spokesman Adam Green said the petition was sent to 150,000 supporters, who will also be encouraged to use Facebook and Twitter to broaden the effort and provide a direct connection to the White House.

The MoveOn petition says the group is "counting on your to fight for bold change on health care -- including a strong public health insurance option."

MoveOn.org, one of the nation's largest liberal advocacy groups, has about 5 million members.

The petitions are the latest sign of disaffection on the left with Obama, who has also faced criticism from progressive groups over White House policies on gays in the military and national security. Obama also faces concerted opposition on health care from Republicans and conservative groups, who have objected strongly to the public-insurance proposal and who have sponsored noisy protests during community meetings in the past month with congressional Democrats.

In announcing Obama's plans to speak directly to Congress, some administration officials have signaled that the president may soften his support for a public option or at least leave the door open to other proposals. Such hints have angered many on the left, who have come to view a public-insurance plan as the cornerstone of major reform.

MoveOn wrote in its message to members that Obama "is under immense pressure from conservatives in both parties -- and some advisers -- to drop" the public option.

This is not the first time that a Democrat has come under fire from the two groups, which also sponsored a recent ad campaign castigating Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.). Green said the PCCC petition targeting the president will be joined by an ad campaign in coming days featuring ardent Obama supporters to "summon up the high energy and spirit of the 2008 campaign."

"We're directing that energy toward pressuring the White House to do the right thing and publicly demand the public option," Green said.

Posted at 3:20 PM ET on Sep 3, 2009  | Category:  Health Care
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Posted by: WONDERWALEYE | September 7, 2009 1:11 PM

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Steven

Posted by: WONDERWALEYE | September 7, 2009 1:09 PM

Obama Lies On CNN!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DJSQKGnT-o&feature=related
Public Option, no public option, public option, no public option.
Which is it, Obama?

Mass. healthcare reform is failing us
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/03/02/mass_healthcare_reform_is_failing_us/

Posted by: JBiehl611 | September 6, 2009 9:03 PM

When your considering trimming 250 billion dollars a year in special interest profit from health care, you can expect at least 5 billion dollars worth of pressure from a lot of special interest profiteers.
Right wing attack radio along with the fox fair and balanced are their main source of support. Easily influenced, naive, stupid people are their target. Their main weapons are religion and bigotry, half truths, lies and spin.
The definition of liberal hasn't changed. So before the communist party changes it, research the word in several different dictionaries.
Then tell me most of conservative American religion and government isn't hypocrite 491 times.

Posted by: kimkimminni1 | September 6, 2009 10:17 AM

It seems that no one here is much of a historian. This whole “Petition” idea brings L.B.J. to my mind. I am thinking specifically of the conversation he had with Martin Luther King, where Johnson told King that if he wanted success then King – and his followers – had to “…force me to do what is right….” The point was that if the President seems to be the source of an idea, then the opposition has a single person to focus their attack. When the two forces are seemingly equal, then both sides have an equal chance. When the Proponents seem to be larger, then the President can say to the Opponents: “Don’t blame me, the Majority wants this, and the majority rules”. We must show the world that the majority supports Obama’s vision of Healthcare Reform.

Posted by: cseon | September 5, 2009 9:23 AM

WE NEED TO GET POLITICS OUT OF GOVERNING OUR NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: asclepious2 | September 4, 2009 4:52 PM

As a leftish progressive of 83 years of age, I worked for Obama's election because I want t see some real change in this once proud but now faltering country. Health reform is a major priority for all who care about our 300+ million people: we are rich enough that everyone should be guaranteed decent health care. The private system has failed us, so we must have a strong public option or we won't have reform. And costs must be much lower, even if it means less money for the insurance industry and putting most doctors on salary. I want Obama to fight for it: he promised change we can believe in, dammit, and I, for one, expect him to lead us like a lion!

Posted by: ejmurphy414 | September 4, 2009 3:53 PM

WHY FIGHT THE PRESIDENT.
IT BEATS THE HELL OUT OF ME WHY WE KEEP CALLING THIS OBAMA'S HEALTH REFORM. THIS IS NOT THE OBAMA HEALTH CARE REFORM. THIS IS THE CONGRESSIONAL HEALTH CARE REFORM AND WE NEED TO LOBBY THOSE PEOPLE AND DISCUSS WHO IS FUNDING THE OPPOSITION.
TAKE WHAT YOU CAN GET AND RUN WITH IT AND NEXT TIME KNOW YOUR ENEMY BEFORE YOU START YOUR FIGHT.
THIS TIME YOU LIBERAL DEMS HAVE SHOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT.
MAYBE IN 2010, YOU WILL CAMPAIGN AGAINST THOSE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LET YOUR GUY CARRY OUT YOUR WISHES. THE PRESIDENT IS ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SIGNING THE BILL. YOU HAVE PUT HIM IN A POSITION WHERE IF HE IS SMART HE WILL TAKE WHAT HE CAN GET; BUT YOU DUMB ASES WILL ATTACK HIM AND GET NOTHING AND IN 2012 YOU CAN HAVE PERRY AS PRES. PALIN AS V.P. AND STEEL AS SEC. OF STATE.
HAVE A HAPPY LABOR DAY.
YOU CAN'T EVEN FIGHT THE STATS. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS THE RATE OF UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE APPLYING FOR UNEMPLOYMENT. IF THE PRESIDENT HAD NOT INCREASED THE BENEFITS, WE WOULD HAVE A LOWER NUMBER BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE ELEGIABLE TO APPLY.

Posted by: sm98yth | September 4, 2009 2:32 PM

If you watch cable news at all, you've seen the ads for “health care reform”, now being called “health insurance reform”. “It is an interesting subtle switch in language”. Mike Oliphant runs a small Utah health insurance website http://www.benefitsmanager.net/SelectHealth.html and http://www.dentalinsuranceutah.net whom deals with people day to day struggling to find affordable coverage. “I think it’s important to not understate the huge difference in meaning between “health insurance reform” and “health care reform”. Let’s not lose focus on the need to reform a broken health care system which includes not only health insurance carriers but also billing practices of medical providers. Why isn’t TORT reform part of the national discussion? Studies show that alone could lower costs by 15% for both the medical professionals and health insurance carriers (Humana). Perhaps the federal government should take notice of what Utah has accomplished with first step of health insurance reform and promises for reform in the medical provider arena. Several interesting changes took place with the passage of H.B. 188. House Speaker Clark has championed the need for change while recognizing the experience of the private health insurance sector. To see more about this visit http://www.prweb.com/releases/utah_health_insurance/health_care_reform/prweb2614544.htm

Posted by: mikeoliphant1 | September 4, 2009 1:09 PM

Don't Desert Us to Get a Bad Bill

My door to door efforts, organizing events and teaching people how to respond one-on-one to misinformation over the last year has restored my belief in the Dream, from Kennedy to King and now to Obama - and in America in general.

Something is not always better than nothing, and in this case lack of health care competition will after a few minor concessions by the insurance companies just allow them to pass on the costs of those concessions to all of us -- the runaway cost train will start up again as soon as our attention is diverted -- and we are ALL on the tracks, even the loudmouths who are anti-change and anti-everything (they just don't know it yet).

I have heard you say the very same thing hundreds of times -- if you concede this and sign a bill that doesn't create competition you will be losing the real war to win a political battle.

More importantly you will be sacrificing hundred of thousands or millions of believers like me to placate a few Republicans and blue dog Democrats (and the real power of the insurance people who bet on both sides with their contribution money).

Tuesday I am praying I will hear change that I have believed in for over a year -- I fear I will hear the type of politician that has kept me on the sidelines for decades.

Posted by: SDNYGUY | September 4, 2009 12:14 PM

You simply cannot change 8 years of stupid and vacations in a mere 8 months.

I know that this may be a tough concept for the conservatives to get their heads around so in an effort to aid them, I typed R E A L S L O W.

I feel that Obama blew it by trying to work with the R's on this when he saw nothing but obstinance and obstruction at first. He was naive in believing that these assclowns could be reasonable. The only that is reasonable for the conservatives is that he roll over and let them do what they want, a system that got us into the mess that we're in now.

My belief is that he should shove the R's to the back of the bus and screw every one of them that even THINKS about doing something disruptive. That is all these clowns understand and it's what they deserve after seeing how they've screwed the country up.

The Fairness Doctrine should be reinstituted as right wing radio has done nothing more than cause damage. The only reason why these morons want to keep their kids out of school next Tuseday is to insure that they will have a good supply of morons in the future.

Posted by: dennissuper | September 4, 2009 10:46 AM

COVERT USE OF MICROWAVE/LASER 'DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS'
ON U.S. CITIZENS MAKES HEALTH CARE REFORM A CRUEL JOKE

Access to health care doesn't help untold thousands of unjustly targeted Americans recover from the devastating physiological effects of being silently irradiated by microwave and laser radiation directed energy weapons -- the weaponization of the electromagnetic spectrum, a silent "final solution" that may have the nation's political leadership in its ideological cross-hairs.

This technology is capable of altering moods, emotions, inducing fatigue, weakness, exhaustion, confusion, life-altering injury, disease and a slow-kill death. And key elements of the Obama administration, chief among them the defense/security/intel establishment, are proliferating these technologies by various modalities -- from hand-held weaponry to satellite and terrestrial cell tower based delivery systems.

These "targets" also are subject to financial sabotage that decimates their livelihoods and financial resources, and relentless "community stalking," harassment, surreptitious home entries and vandalism by government-enabled vigilantes affiliated with federally funded community policing and anti-terrorism organizations.

By its naivete, its rubber-stamp approval of the deployment of these destructive technologies and programs, the Obama administration is presiding over the destruction of democracy, the rule of law, and personal liberty.

The bureaucratic saboteurs and Dr. Strangeloves behind these multi-agency crimes against humanity and the Constitution must be removed from power, immediately, before this silent genocide claims more victims -- endangering democracy, making a mockery of the rule of law.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america

OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | September 4, 2009 9:51 AM

In his address to Congress, will we get to see Obama explain the more than $2 billion 'loan' to Brazilian oil company Petrobras for offshore drilling? Especially now that Brazil is considering nationalizing some of their oil reserves and the chance of any return on that money is highly unlikely? Is he planning on loaning similar money for BP's recent discovery and any of ExxonMobil's work?
Highly unlikely since Sorros is not a major investor in BP or Exxon.

Posted by: lookersmom | September 4, 2009 9:28 AM

"What a different world it would be if Bush hadn't been put into office in 2000"

Posted by: JRM2 | September 3, 2009 7:07 PM

It would be different, but not in the radical way that you were hoping for - 9/11 STILL would have happened and hopefully Gore would have done something other than gone on an apology tour to placate the radical muslisms; the banking collapse would have still happened as that was initiated by the likes of Barney Frank and the fed rules that required banks to loan to people who could not afford the loans - if anything, this might have happened sooner.
Would we have gone into Iraq - maybe not. Would Iran and North Korea still be issues - yes - and with likely much more advanced nuclear programs.
Would we have more green energy programs - yes, but with the much higher electricity costs that you'll see if the cap/tax plan is passed by the Senate.
Change for change's sake is not always good change.

Posted by: lookersmom | September 4, 2009 9:22 AM

"I guess everyone really knows in their heart that Obama caved in to the insurance industry way back in March.

"

why anyone would have thought Obama was a liberal after his vote on telecom immunity is beyond disbelief

The banks, the insurance companies, adore the guy.

Posted by: newagent99 | September 4, 2009 8:18 AM

I guess everyone really knows in their heart that Obama caved in to the insurance industry way back in March.

Many didn't want to then and still don't want to believe it.

It will be interesting to see if Obama admits it on Tues., my guess he will try to string us (public option supporters) on a little longer until he is sure we are no longer needed.

Posted by: cautious | September 4, 2009 2:03 AM

I can't imagine what the president could say in his speech which would undo the damage wrought by his administration's incompetent and corrupt handling of this issue.

Posted by: bmull | September 4, 2009 1:33 AM

JakeD and BillW said "LOL"

We deserve that.

The irony is that the left doesn't seem to understand that they voted for a democratic president who is obligated by the Constitution to work with Congress.

The irony is that the left longs for the same presidential power that Bush and Cheney wielded over the legislature even as they gutted the separation of powers and issued orders by fiat.

It was wrong before and it's wrong now.

The power of change still comes from below. The bill has to be written and passed by the Congress and the Senate before it reaches the president's desk. We're still a very long way from that point.

In the mean time, if you don't like the way this looks in the Senate - then you need to talk to your Senator - not the president.

Posted by: JohnQuimby | September 3, 2009 7:26 PM

So the men who lead the Alternative Lifestyle with HIV/AIDS will be deprived of medicine if Obama has his way.... did you think the death panels were just for old people? HOW'S THAT HOPE AND CHANGE?!

Posted by: ANTILIB | September 3, 2009 7:20 PM

"You voted for the war in 2004 when you voted for Kerry instead of Nader. So you got what you deserve.

Posted by: steveconn1 | September 3, 2009 6:00 PM"
-----
So you were one of the i.d.i.o.t.s. who was responsible for Bush getting in, nice job, now I can blame you for all the destruction over the last 8 years.

What a different world it would be if Bush hadn't been put into office in 2000

Posted by: JRM2 | September 3, 2009 7:07 PM

Obama can please the left but nothing he can say or do can please the right. The right believes that their opposition is absolutely evil no matter if they are liberals, muslims or hispanics. When is Obama going to realize this.

Posted by: Nosmanic | September 3, 2009 6:56 PM

President Obama will largely dodge the issue in his speech. He will still favor the public option. But it will not be the foucs of his goals. Groups like moveon.org are hopeless in any case. The big question will be the Senate's behavior. Can the Democrats in the Senate work together towards the best possible compromise bill or will they fragment? If we continue to have a substantial number of Democratic Senators thinking that they can get an unpopular partisan bill passed with 51 votes, health care reform and the Democratic Party will be in big trouble.

Posted by: dnjake | September 3, 2009 6:52 PM

If you supported Obama instead of Ralph Nader in 2008, you wanted to be fooled on the single payer. Too late to complain about it. P.S.You voted for the war in 2004 when you voted for Kerry instead of Nader. So you got what you deserve.

Posted by: steveconn1 | September 3, 2009 6:00 PM

Obama should SLAP these whinny liberals.......

and tell them they have nowhere to GO.

Posted by: JaxMax | September 3, 2009 5:53 PM

SarahBB:
Here's one link: http://pol.moveon.org/hcobama/o.pl?id=17132-17153056-6kkxW_x&t=3. You can also go to www.boldprogressives.org for another petition.

Posted by: jasm917 | September 3, 2009 5:10 PM

When you have a President that nonchalantly surrounds himself with admitted Communists and Marxist advisers as a part of a Shadow Govt of Czars you have to take note. His entrenched cult members are too far gone to see that as problematic. Fortunately most and many more everyday are figuring out Barry and are not comfortable with him for good reason. Most that care for this Nation, unlike some here, reject his agenda and motives.

Posted by: ChangeWhat | September 3, 2009 5:08 PM

So given this, is Obama still a "radical leftist"?

Posted by: mikem1 | September 3, 2009 4:34 PM

A link to the petitions would have been nice.

Posted by: SarahBB | September 3, 2009 4:17 PM

The GOP and crazies have lowered themselves to a new low. Does every thing have to political? You would think that we as parents and adults would want our leaders (of all parties or not) to encourage our children to be good students, enjoy school, dream big. Not the the party of NO. It's truly sad what's happening in this country. I feel we have collectively lost our soul. It's very discouraging that is all I can say. :(

Posted by: sondysue819 | September 3, 2009 3:39 PM


JakeD said:

"LOL!!!"

Agreed.

.

Posted by: Billw3 | September 3, 2009 3:13 PM


Obama's promises have caught up with him. Even the messaih's speech writers are of no avail.

.

Posted by: Billw3 | September 3, 2009 3:11 PM

LOL!!!

Posted by: JakeD | September 3, 2009 2:48 PM

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