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Abdullah supports troop increase, but within a broader plan

By John Amick and T. Rees Shapiro

FOX NEWS SUNDAY - Abdullah: Afghans must have faith in runoff

Afghan opposition candidate Abdullah Abdullah said he would not fully support the Nov. 7 runoff vote against incumbent president Hamid Karzai if reforms did not take place to improve transparency and reduce fraudulent ballot numbers in the electoral process.

Abdullah also ruled out the possibility of a power-sharing agreement with Karzai, and said he believed his constituents did not have faith in Karzai's ability to clean out the country's corrupt government and reduce the threat of extremist violence.

CNN: STATE OF THE UNION - Afghan contender not interested in joining Karzai

Abdullah dismissed incumbent President Hamid Karzai's statements that the Afghan election in August was "mostly clean," and said he had no interest in joining a Karzai-led government, if Karzai wins a run-off election on Nov. 7.

"I left Mr. Karzai's government some three and a half years ago, and since then I've not been tempted to be part of that government," Abdullah said on CNN's "State of the Union." "And my trust in becoming a candidate was to not be a part of the same government, part of the same deteriorating situation. Mine was for a change in the country. Mine was for bringing hopes for the people of this country."

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Abdullah said he agrees that a strong Afghan government is needed for turning the tide in the country, and that a clean run-off election will help further Afghan solidarity. He said he supports Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal's strategy assessment that more troops are needed to stablize Afghanistan, though he believes the more important broader plan must focus on how healthy Afghanistan's government is, and how security will improve.

"What's the roadmap? What are the rules? And when one partner failing on its own mission, like what has been done in the past few years, I don't see a prospect for the strategy," Abdullah said.

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) bemoaned critics of President Obama, including former Vice President Dick Cheney, who say he's taking too long to make a troop-level decision.

"It's been eight years of mismanagement with President Karzai and eight years of loss of focus from the Americans as we put all of our efforts, the previous administration put all of its efforts into Iraq," he said. "Those questions remain to be answered. That's why the president needs time in making this decision."

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said Obama should just listen to the "masters of counterinsurgency," McChrystal and CENTCOM commander Gen. David H. Petraeus, when making decisions in the war.

"They need these troops, there's no question about it," Hatch said. "And we're exposing our young men and women over there -- a number of them have been killed, I'm not blaming the president for that, but we're exposing them without the proper help that they've just got to have.

When asked about Cheney's comment, Hatch said he "would never want to call my president 'dithering'."

Crucial vote in health-care reform still uncommitted

Moderate Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson (Neb.), part of a crucial voting bloc in the Senate, said he has made no promises on how he might vote on health-care legislation with a public option included because he wants to see the bill first. Yet, he did say that while he was not excited about an "opt-out" plan that would allow states to decline the public option, he was intrigued by an "opt-in" provision.

"I'll take a look at the one where states could opt in if they make the decision themselves," Nelson said. "Look, I'm a Jeffersonian Democrat. I think the states can make decisions on their own about their own citizens.

CBS: FACE THE NATION - Feingold: Afghanistan argument based on false assumptions

The assumption that American interests in defeating al-Qaeda rest in committing many more resources in Afghanistan to oust the Taliban and other counterinsurgents is wrong and the president should think hard before sending more American troops into such a situation, Sen. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.) said Sunday.

"Remember, al-Qaeda didn't begin in Afghanistan," Feingold said on CBS's "Face the Nation." "It came over from having been in Sudan and other places. And after the heat came down on them, they went to Pakistan. They have a presence in places like Somalia and Yemen. So the idea that somehow Afghanistan is the key to this is a wrong-headed view of an international criminal syndicate that we should be going after."

Feingold said the U.S. should immediately consider announcing a timetable for the subsequent withdrawal of American presence in Afghanistan.

"I would like the president to consider announcing a flexible timetable by which time we would begin to bring the troops home and give the Afghan people and the American people a sense of how long we intend to continue this," he said. "That will help stabilize Afghanistan, make it look less like we're a foreign occupier. It will certainly help support in the United States. And I think that's the way to go."

A supporter for McChrystal's assessment, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), said that Obama will have trouble with his own party if he adds many more troops. Feingold disagreed, saying American opinion is broadly against an escalation of the war, no matter party affiliation, and the president will have problems with a much larger section of the country and not just within Democratic circles.

ABC: THIS WEEK - McConnell: Congress will support more H1N1 support

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said he believes broad bipartisan support would approve more resources to combat the H1N1 flu virus if the Obama administration asked for it.

When asked if he was worried about recent poll numbers that put Americans claiming to be Republican at around 20 percent, McConnell said those numbers don't mean much when compared to polling that shows Republicans two points behind Democrats in voter preference. How people vote matters, he said, not what party voters align themselves with.

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) said while she supports a public option in health-care reform legislation, she would not stipulate which version she would prefer, nor would she predict what would be included by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada). McCaskill did say she wouldn't be surprised if Senate moderates like Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) -- who all have expressed doubts about a public option -- would support some version of it down the road.

NBC: MEET THE PRESS - Schumer: Executives have a responsibility after bailout

Senate Finance Committee member Sen. Charles P. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he would support publicly releasing the names of executives who would receive record bonuses funded by the government bailout. The government has no precedent to control the salaries of executives of private companies, Schumer said, but "it's a different ball game" when "massive amounts of government money" has been invested into the companies who have been relieved by the bailout.

Schumer also applauded Obama administration "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg's "Less salary, more stock" executive pay cut strategy, which Sen.
Schumer said will curb benefits paid with government money.

On Afghanistan Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said a combat troop surge alone will not win the war. Cornyn said "we need a change in strategy," to the counter-insurgency package Gen. McChrystal has suggested in order to see some signs of success. But he said a decision to provide some increase to the level of combat troops on the ground is still imperative in order to improve security.

Posted at 12:46 PM ET on Oct 25, 2009  | Category:  Sunday Talkies
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Wow! Do any of you know how to write English?

Posted by: lordgamble | October 26, 2009 2:38 PM

bayh; hey lieberman! help me!

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Posted by: AuthoritativeAuthoritarian | October 26, 2009 4:09 AM

oh for chrissakes..


those are the two most queerest senators in the country.

bayh.. the little boy who said during this weeks small business senatorial hearing, "i might have to leave early.. i have a stomache flu.. and then left while smiling ear to ear... what a friggin p*ssy. and then lieberman.. i don't even have to describe him. THESE are the people who we have working for us????? LOL.. well, i guess we are F*ED!

Posted by: AuthoritativeAuthoritarian | October 26, 2009 4:01 AM

I’m part of the Empire. My roots have travelled and crossed all the miseries and glories of the western culture up to coming to where we are. I eat every day. I have a high probability of life. I am a woman and in spite of all the sorrows and Berlusconis of the world; I vote, I can choose a profession and come to the presidency for own merits. Since quite well born I wish the best thing for mine without it is a wastage for the others.
From remote times the Empires have succumbed thanks to two factors, wars and internal division. The only Empire that from centuries is kept is the Vatican and for it realizes alliances between equal and dialogs among opposite. This gets in the worst cases, not diminish its power or prestige.
The U.S. alliance with Brazil and Spain is an ideal expansionist vision of future. Brazil for being a giant of natural and human wealth and Spain for being a strategic and referential point for all Latin America and Africa. These partnerships would enrich the Empire in benefit of all his subjects.
The wars only bring misery, loss of prestige and wastage of power. Today there are no distances; the information is on the web civilians are targeted by suicide bombers. Don’t you think that they are putting old patches in new garments?

Posted by: avesaabrasil | October 26, 2009 3:22 AM

And why wouldn't another Afghan punk want more US blood to be spilled in order to protect his sorry a$$.

Decapitate bin Laden and al-Zawahiri and get the hell out of Afghanistan!

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | October 25, 2009 10:43 PM

Since Sen Cornyn thinks he such a military genius why did he not advise Bush before invading Iraq to get rid of Rumsfeld who did not know how to prepare for war.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 25, 2009 8:31 PM

POTUS/VPOTUS: I'll bet you your Bush-Cheney leave-behinds know all about this kind of "application of force."


Posted by: scrivener50 | October 25, 2009 4:31 PM

Hurry because the republican cannot wait no more....after 8 years in the country under there leadership...

Posted by: blafouille | October 25, 2009 1:19 PM

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