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Health reform inches closer to endgame

By Ben Pershing
President Obama and congressional Democrats moved closer to the end of a very bumpy road this week, as the House now has a health-care reform bill that is expected to pass the chamber and the Senate is crafting a measure that is similar in many key respects.

Nancy Pelosi and her fellow House Democrats unveiled their long-awaited health bill Thursday morning, one that includes a more moderate version of the public option -- with negotiated reimbursement rates for providers -- after leaders could not muster 218 votes for the more "robust" version. The Wall Street Journal writes, "While liberals praised the measure, key blocs of House Democrats haven't offered their endorsement. The fiscally conservative Blue Dog coalition said Thursday that it wants more proof that the bill lowers federal health spending in the long term." The Associated Press looks at the losers, noting that the measure "would impose an array of new taxes, fees and government mandates on major players in the health industry, including insurers, doctors and drugs and medical devices makers." Care for illegal immigrants remains a sticking point, as does funding for abortion.

Despite some griping from both the right and left, the bill looks destined to pass when it hits the floor next week. In an interview Thursday with David Rogers, Pelosi said "I'm not big on showing weakness. It's not my thing. I don't like to have predictable losses." Writing on the bill unveiling event Thursday, Dana Milbank says "Pelosi's legislative finesse was not matched by her skills as a pep rally organizer. Only about 80 House Democrats, about a third of the caucus, were on the stage on the cool and gray morning." Ezra Klein has John Dingell -- a longtime supporter of a single-payer system -- saying the House bill "is as good as can be done now."

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Posted at 8:30 AM ET on Oct 30, 2009  | Category:  The Rundown
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A large portion of our H1N1 vaccines are coming from Canada. They're taking care of their own population first, then selling what's left to us for a profit. Looks to me like Canada, who pays less than half of what we do for health care, has the better deal in this case.

The insurance companies are banking on gullibility, and xenophobia to protect their fraudulent practices. They believe that when money talks, democracy walks. Prove those unrepentant thieves wrong.

Posted by: rooster54 | November 1, 2009 12:35 PM

END GAME? This is a GAME????

USPS/IRS Health Care
Of those "50 million," that lack insurance there were 45,000 who died without health care. With health care, 98,000 died FROM health care because of malpractice.

The question is do we want to trust that largest corporation in the world, the U.S. Government.

Do not expect house calls anytime soon.

We have seen how well the government delivers on its promises and its bureaucracies pursue the money without giving us benefits on so many levels. Imagine another organ of the government that only ultimately must listen to the Secretary of the Treasury - another "service" of which is the IRS.

http://theprogressivecapitalist.blogspot.com/2009/10/affordable-health-care-for-america-act.html

I have listed a connection to the HR3962, a few videos, two summaries, and the new taxes coming from this health care "reform" on my blog listed above for detailed information.

Posted by: johnlloydscharf | November 1, 2009 4:39 AM

I've actually used the Canadian health care system. It's excellent. There may be some problems accessing elective procedures, but the regular routine care that is all that most people ever need is prompt and high quality.
The British system, according to the people who use it, is world class. If a day laborer in the UK has a heart attack, he is rushed to a hospital and receives excellent care. If Prince Charles has a heart attack, he is rushed to the hospital and receives excellent care. The only difference is that the day laborer probably won't be visited in the hospital by the Queen.
We have to start having a health care system dedicated to the health of the American people instead of the profits of the greedy amoral health insurance industry.
The insurance industry has been spending $1.4 million a day all year to stop healthcare reform. They're not throwing that kind of money around because the love America.

Posted by: katn1084 | October 31, 2009 11:12 PM

Jenn38:

I've used Canada's health care. Why am I guessing that you have not?

Posted by: JohnQuimby | October 30, 2009 3:03 PM

Jenn38 I found you post contrived and expressing a purely Republican position which is ignorant of the real problems in health care today. As a Canadian you were exposed to less costly and less intrusive health care, if you used the system at all. Though there are problems in both systems, it is the rare person who is confronted with the Canadian problems while most people realize its benefits.

Out with it Jenn you have been trained by the right wing "truth" machine. You care nothing about health care and everything about promoting an ideology.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 30, 2009 1:31 PM

Never again. When moving from Canada to the States I thought I put behind people that thought the government should fix everything. Ignorant Americans really think that government health care will be free? That somehow health will not be affected by cost? It all comes down to budget whether it is government or private insurance. I would rather deal with private insurance companies collectors than government collectors. Can people not see medicare and social security. When government healthcare fails just as these two programs are. Will Dems pass a new healthcare reform instead of fixing the broken problems of the last? These bills have no solution for the rising cost of health care. It only switches the burden of cost on to the American people. Do we want the United States to end up in the same financial sitution as California?

Posted by: Jenn38 | October 30, 2009 10:43 AM

Yep. The Unionizing of America's 6Th largest Industry ain't happening!

End of O'Bomba's Game!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 30, 2009 10:41 AM

Yep. The Unionizing of America's 6Th largest Industry ain't happening!

End of O'Bomba's Game!

Posted by: SAINT---The | October 30, 2009 10:41 AM

ATTENTION MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, TEAM OBAMA: Health Care Reform a Cruel Joke Until Team Obama Ends Ongoing Bush Era Crimes Against Humanity

SECRET USE OF MICROWAVE/LASER RADIATION 'DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS' ON U.S. CITIZENS BY MULTI-AGENCY 'EXECUTIVE ACTION' PROGRAM

Thousands of unjustly targeted Americans are being damaged by the devastating physiological effects of being silently irradiated by microwave and laser radiation directed energy weapons by a secret executive branch multi-agency coordinated action program...

...the weaponization of the electromagnetic spectrum, a silent "final solution" that may have the nation's political leadership in its ideological cross-hairs.

This technology is capable of altering moods, emotions, inducing fatigue, weakness, exhaustion, confusion, life-altering injury, disease and a slow-kill death.

And key elements of the federal bureaucracy -- chief among them the defense/security/intel establishment -- are proliferating these technologies by various modalities, reported to include terrestrial and satellite electromagnetic microwave/laser emissions -- in one iteration, disguised as cell towers.

American citizens and families targeted by this covert torture matrix also are subject to financial sabotage that decimates their livelihoods and financial resources...

...and relentless "community stalking" -- harassment, surreptitious home entries and vandalism by government-enabled vigilantes affiliated with federally-funded community policing and anti-terrorism organizations.

Warrantless, covert placement of GPS tracking devices and misuse of cell phone technology to hunt down the unjustly targeted enables this grassroots terrorism.

But the Obama administration continues to allow these warrantless intrusions into the lives of unjustly targeted American families.

By its naivete -- its unquestioning rubber-stamp approval of the deployment of these destructive technologies and programs -- the Obama administration risks presiding over the destruction of democracy, the rule of law, and personal liberty.

PRESIDENT OBAMA, CONGRESS:

BAN the use of microwave/laser directed energy weapons on U.S. citizens or any human being (including experimentation) as cruel and unusual punishment and a crime against humanity.

BAN the warrantless tracking of individuals with GPS devices, or via cell phones -- the electronic backbone of an American Gestapo now operating on YOUR watch.

http://nowpublic.com/world/gestapo-usa-govt-funded-vigilante-network-terrorizes-america OR (if link is corrupted/disabled):

http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA"

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 30, 2009 10:01 AM

Moves to providing affordable health care for all should really improve the feeling of security, and well-being and happiness in this country. The emotional effects of our current Darwinian health care program on mental health and subsequent physical health may well be under appreciated.

Providing health care is treating other human beings with decency and respect for their lives.

Providing better health care hopefully will place more focus on personal responsibilities for healthy living... a live style of moderation-- no smoking, brushing teeth, maintaining appropriate weight through good eating habits and exercise, the fundamentals.

Perhaps this will allow substantial public health gains against heart disease, diabetes and loss off mobility types of problems. The personal fundamentals are where many of the real problems are and are where the biggest gains in health and happiness stand to be made, rather painlessly.

Posted by: concerneddemo | October 30, 2009 9:48 AM

I believe that Speaker Pelosi should slow down on Health Care and start to address the ethical failures within the House of Representatives. She has failed to deliver "the most ethical and transparent House of Representatives, ever".

This failure cannot be blamed on George W. Bush and the Republicans, it is hers and hers alone!

Posted by: mwhoke | October 30, 2009 9:01 AM

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