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A Republican Comeback?

By Dan Balz
Are Republicans at a low ebb or making a comeback?

The question is prompted by the new release from the Gallup organization, which showed that the gap in party identification is now the smallest it has been since 2005. Democrats are still in the lead, but not by the double-digit margins they often enjoyed the past two years.

The report was the second in a month from Gallup to suggest that, eight months into the Obama administration, Democrats are losing favor with at least a portion of the electorate. Republicans are cheering the findings as a sign of a potentially important change in the political landscape. Democratic strategists offer cautionary notes about what is actually happening.

Party identification is not the same as party registration. Many states require people to register by party, but some do not. And pollsters ask people not how they are registered but how they identify themselves. As a result, self-disclosed party identification in polling data moves back and forth with events.

Republicans have been on a downward trend for several years. They saw their fortunes begin to sink during George W. Bush's second term, beginning with disillusionment over his Iraq war strategy and accelerating after his administration's slow response to Hurricane Katrina. Through 2007 and 2008, Republicans were struggling, and by some evidence, they still are.

In the first quarter of 2005, just after Bush's reelection, 35 percent of Americans called themselves Republicans, according to Gallup's data. By the fourth quarter of 2006, just 29 percent identified with the GOP. Republican identification has remained relatively constant ever since: in the third quarter of this year, 27 percent called themselves Republicans.

Democrats have fluctuated only a bit in that period. In the months after Bush's reelection, according to Gallup's data, 33 percent of Americans called themselves Democrats. The Democratic Party's high point (at 36 percent) came in the first half of 2008, the period when the country was focused so intensely on the nomination battle between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton. In the third quarter of this year, 35 percent called themselves Democrats.

Washington Post-ABC News monthly polls show similar trends, though the numbers are different. A Post-ABC poll in April generated considerable attention when it showed that just 21 percent of Americans identified themselves as Republicans. By August, GOP identification was back up to 25 percent -- but still 10 points lower than Democratic identification. It drifted down to 21 percent in September.

All that would suggest that Republicans have not really solved their image problems. At this point, people who once called themselves Republicans are not flocking back to the party. As Gallup put it, "There has been no apparent increase in the percentage of Americans who identify as Republicans on the initial party-preference question."

What's behind the narrowing of the gap? The whole shift has come among people who do not initially identify with one of the two major parties. Some are stubbornly independent, but many of these people lean toward one party or another. Over the past few years, more of these leaners have tilted toward the Democrats than toward the Republicans. Not today.

In the first three months of this year, Gallup found that 17 percent of all adults were independents who leaned toward the Democrats, and 11 percent independents who leaned toward the Republicans. Since then, however, Democrats have lost ground with indpendents and Republicans have gained ground. Gallup's third quarter data showed that 15 percent of adults were Republican-leaning independents, and 13 percent Democratic-leaning independents.

Jennifer Agiesta, The Post's polling analyst, did some calculations to look at how these "non-partisans" have leaned over the past few years in Post-ABC News polls. The results show a reduction in the Democrats' advantage of previous years. From 2005 through 2007, these non-partisans said they leaned toward the Democrats by margins of 13, 16 and 12 percentage points. In 2008, that fell to 8 points and so far this year, the gap has been 6 points.

Democratic Mark Mellman said the narrowing gap is not unexpected, given some decline in Obama's popularity and the state of the economy. "One would expect the Democratic advantage to be down from its recent highs," he said in a message. But he noted that a six-point advantage is still healthy.

Republican pollster Neil Newhouse said that, in the past few years, public antipathy toward Bush drove some self-identified Republicans to start calling themselves independents and Democratic-leaning independents to call themselves Democrats -- in other words a general shift to the left in people's perceptions of their party identification.

"In response to Obama's overreaching and overspending, what we're seeing is a slight reversal of that previous trend -- [independents] are turning against Obama and the partisan margin between [Republicans and Democrats] is narrowing," he said.

Democratic pollster Anna Greenberg called the evidence of movement mixed but said she believed that, with the shift of some independents into the Democratic camp, the remaining independents may be more Republican in their attitudes.

"Independents, by definition, tend to be more socially liberal than Republicans and less populist than Democrats, so I would expect them to express more skepticism about the role of government and issues of government spending when it comes to health care reform," she said.

Gallup focused on the same attitudes. According to the organization's analysis, "Gallup has found that independents are more likely to oppose health care reform and to express concerns about increased government spending and the expansion of government power. Thus, the drop in Democratic support is partly a response to concerns about the policies Obama and the Democrats are pursuing."

The Republicans are still in trouble and more evidence is needed to draw real conclusions about the balance of power between the two parties. But if Obama's policies are causing independents, who were critical to Democratic successes in 2006 and 2008, to look more favorably toward the Republican Party, that should be cause for concern at Democratic Party headquarters.

By Web Politics Editor  |  October 1, 2009; 12:49 PM ET
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Finally Americans are waking up to this corrupt and unethical party known as democrats. I completely agree that we put dems in and realize usually halfway through the first year why we don't have that party in all the time. The democratic party wants POWER, they want to indoctrinate our children with their radical ideology and they want to tax everyone into the slums. They want the entire country looking to the government for anything they need, a nanny state/welfare state, and they keep everyone in social/economic slavery while doing this. Granted, this last administration started acting like the democrats in Bush's second term, but Bush kept our country safe, he kept our country respected and he didn't try to push his ideology on our children. You didn't see Iran "testing" bombs or making the statements they donow. Obama is inexperienced, he is arrogant and is turning our country into a laughing stock and weakening our borders. He apologizes for our country (WHICH NO OTHER PRESIDENT HAS DONE)to our enemies and cares more about hurting the feeling of killers/terrorists/enemies than taking care of the American people. I am ashamed of this president and his cabinet, czars, congress and senate. I'm just so happy that people are coming out of their Obama induced kool-aid comas and realizing what this man is doing to our country. The silent majority is on the rise and are now going to stop him. GO REPUBLICANS IN 2010 AND 2012

Posted by: chloe_658 | October 2, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

If I want to know what's happening with Obama's numbers, I simply go to Google news. If his numbers are sinking, there is, as usual with this country's biased reporting, no news whatsoever about the poll numbers. I've become quite good at figuring out what's going on simply by checking out what is being omitted.

Posted by: thebink | October 2, 2009 7:10 AM | Report abuse

All this Republican bashing! We elect a Democrat to the Presidency every twenty years or so just to remind ourselves why we don't want to do it the rest of the time.

We keep thinking the Democrats will change and begin to act responsibly, but they never do. The Dems are more fun (kids usually are) but, eventually the nation figures out (after enough pain) that we have to put the grown-ups back in charge!

Posted by: jack_carlson | October 2, 2009 12:45 AM | Report abuse

Republicans are to America what gonorrhea was like before the advent of antibiotics. You're sick as a dog, then it goes away and then it comes back with a vengeance.

It always comes back

Posted by: Dolmance | October 2, 2009 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Some of you folks need to calm down. The election of 2010 is still 13 months away. Republicans, don't get to excited, it will take more than one story in the WaPo to elect republicans. And democrats, stop having these panic attacks. And some of you folks need to take a 9th freade civics class. Calling republicans obstructionist for all the democratic plans is just not very smart. Democrats have big enough majorities in both houses of congress, and the presidency. So, when any bill is voted on, there are enough democrats to pass any bill into law that they (the democrats) can agree on. Then the president has the right to sign it into law or veto it. So, any bill that democrats agree on, will be passed into law, with the president signature, and there is nothing the republicans can do to stop it. So democrats, any bill that you would like to see signed into law, can only be stopped by the democrats. So for the next 14 and a half months, the republicans will be there, but they don't have enough votes to stop the democrats from doing anything. If the bills you want passed into law aren't passed, blame the democrats, they have all the power.

Posted by: poppy11 | October 1, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Every time the Republicans have been given power they have governed like Democrats. A pox on both parties.

Posted by: cek100248 | October 1, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

If the GOP makes a comeback, our nation is doomed. The only thing worse than a Democrat is a Republican. Their record since Eisenhower (the last decent Republican) is clear. They are corporatists and do not care about the common person and the thing is... they seem to be proud of that. Yet people in the middle class continually vote against their economic interests by voting in people like Reagan, Bush, McConnell, Gramm.
We need ne parties and a progressive party most importantly.

Posted by: dwdave67 | October 1, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

The Republican Party is like Glen Close at the end of "Fatal Attraction"

Posted by: RealityBeatsPerception | October 1, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

How does the slow weakening of Democratic support translate to a "comeback" for the Republicans? Poll data consistently shows that while the Democrats are disliked, the Republicans are hated. News story after news story has reported that falling support for the Democrats has failed to translate to a pickup in support for Republicans. And that's just about how it's likely to stay, as long as they keep shoving barking-mad lunatics like DeMint, Inhofe and Steele into the spotlight.

I suppose, eventually, somebody who was too lazy and/or stupid to do any research had to imply that constitutes a comeback for the Republicans. Nice going, Balz.

Posted by: marknesop | October 1, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Polls are a tool for democrats to deceive and manipulate. They are having a hard time right now because Obama is such an obvious smug arrogant liar. I am a registered democratic American of 20 years and even after 16 years of blindly and ignorantly voting straight democratic I never once called myself a democrat.

Democrats throwing fits of rage, infantile temper tantrums and their unwarranted hatred towards President Bush is what woke me up. The party of democrats are nothing but criminal frauds, liars and traitorous cowards. I have nothing but contempt for these hate filled liars who smear and lie about Republicans in a desperate attempt to level the playing field. They continue to "CLINTONIZE" President Bush because they are incompetent , liars and frauds.

"Republicans have been on a downward trend for several years. They saw their fortunes begin to sink during George W. Bush's second term, beginning with disillusionment over his Iraq war strategy and accelerating after his administration's slow response to Hurricane Katrina. Through 2007 and 2008, Republicans were struggling, and by some evidence, they still are."

What evidence? Slow response to Katrina? The National Guard was plucking the people off their fricken roof tops while a dirty democrat abused his power and used the them to save his 90,000 in frozen cash.


"A republican comeback would be a sad morning in America. But I ask, combeback from eight years of destroying this country?"
Written by someone who calls himself truth1. What a comlpete lying SOS. All you braindead democrats do is repeat lies. When confronted all you can do is repeat talking points and democrat lies.

You dirty rat traitors have been getting away with shameless lies , causing the needless deaths of American Soldiers and have destroyed countless lives and the wealth of this Country out pure evil and greed. Democrats are exactly like crackheads who fiend for crack. Anyone who has paid attention from the days when democrats found themselves irrelevant and in the COMPLETE MINORITY can easily recall, their failed attempt to steal the 2000 Presidential Election. Democrats have proven themselves traitors as the fiend for POWER. They are aided and abetted by this same treasonous media that propped up this Unqualified, unworthy un-AMERICAN fraud and his two teleprompters Dumbo Obama. Dictator Obama.

I find it laughable that democrats cry out against Republicans when Obama is lying democrats are failing. This Media is the same Media that attacked President Bush's speach before he even gives it. Democrats are crying falsely again that the Media is now on the Republicans side.

Keep talking democrats and exposing yourselves, you make my mission easy.

Posted by: RobLACa | October 1, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

>Think what you LIKE, but he's more the president than BUSH, whose 'little brother" more or less assured him "not to worry about it."...not to mention the fiasco in Florida that ensued!!! At least THE PRESIDENT got the presidency LEGALLY!!! gET OVER IT...TO a lot of us, Bush WASN'T our president EITHER, BUT WE DIDN'T ACT LIKE spoiled brats!!!!

Posted by: slamming | October 1, 2009 8:27 PM

Actually, Bush did win the Presidency legally. Somebody finally came to their senses after looking at all this hanging chat, holding ballots up to the light nonsense going on and realized how much of a joke it was.

Posted by: cmastr | October 1, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: I'm not commenting on the 2010 and 2012 elections, I'm just saying that the claims in this article don't match the numbers that the author quotes. I expect better from the WP. Chris Cilizza's report on the same story shows the numbers more clearly, and is more accurately titled "Republicans' Independent Gains?"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/morning-fix/morning-fix-republicans-indepe.html?hpid=topnews

Posted by: erraticity | October 1, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

erraticity:

We'll see what happens in 2010 and 2012 soon enough, my friend.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

WP's formatting messed up my chart, here it is again

_______R___D___Margin
2005__35__33____D-2
2006
2007__29
2008______36
2009__27__35____D+8

Posted by: erraticity | October 1, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

jacquescustodian2:

Sarah PALIN will be the next President of the United States.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

OK, I get it. Republicans threw the election on purpose. They saw the economic crunch coming, they saw the war quagmire wetting up, and didn't want to deal with any of it. They saw the benefit in letting Obama bobble the ball, so they let him win, with the knowledge that they could obstruct progress enough, they could set themselves up for a win next time around. Simple chess move. I mean, if they wanted to win, they wouldn't have run Sarah Quayle.

Posted by: jacquescustodian2 | October 1, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Republicans only value money, but make very bad financial decisions becasuse the decisions are made on the basis of croynism and patronage rather than merit.

The bottom line is that Republicans are bad for the nations bottom line, as well as having no redeeming moral value.

If you take everything good out of a man, what you're left with is a Republican.

Posted by: RealityBeatsPerception | October 1, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Very strange, at the beginning of this article, the author references "...the new release from the Gallup organization, which showed that the gap in party identification is now the smallest it has been since 2005". But according to the Gallup numbers, there is still a very significant gap:

R D Margin
2005 35 33 D-2
2006
2007 29
2008 36
2009 27 35 D+8

So what's going on? The numbers don't support the story. There has been a significant change in the numbers of independents/non-partisans, but those changes aren't shown to be reflected in the R/D numbers, which is what the article is claiming. It would be more accurate/correct to state that the numbers for independents are changing.

Posted by: erraticity | October 1, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

ronsuev:

Thing is, the Dems have 60 votes in the Senate -- and more than enough in the House -- they can do whatever they want (luckily, there are a few conservative Dems preventing that too ; )

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

poppy11:

Both major parties need a major house cleaning -- that's why I am a registered member of the American INDEPENDENT Party -- of course, if my party ever go into the Oval Office, then it would start getting corrupted too. It's a vicious cycle, my friend.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

The best friend the GOP has right now is Barack Obama and the democrats in congress. It's time for them to continue to resist the socialist take over of our economic and political system by those in power, and simply be there to pick up the pieces....http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ronsuev | October 1, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh, really, calling him "pResident Bush" was not spoiled-brat behavior? Whatever happened in Florida in 2000, Bush was LEGALLY re-elected in 2004 -- if Obama is not a "natural born" citizen, then he is not LEGALLY President right now -- Biden is LEGALLY Acting President.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Oh how I love debating the issues. Bush, Obama, and all those corrupt congress men and women. What a wonderful country to live in, even though we are in such trying times. Taxes, war, healthcare, unemployment, pollution, just to name a few. Honestly, they are not new problems, as these and other problems have been around since I was a child. Corruption among politicians has been around that long too. And the party in power is always the party with the corrupt politicians. Yeah, we have just went through a few republicans over the past 8 years, and now we are going to find a few democrats. Think not, take a close look at Charlie Rangel. Now I know there are those who will defend Charlie, but he is guilty, and even he knows it. He is the chief tax writer in the nation, and he doesn't remember how to file his income tax correctly. LOL! Now before you start calling me names, let me tell you that I have good friends of all colors, and I mean good honest hard working friends who are democrats, republicans, and independents. They never call me names, but they love to hear me debate. I simply wait for liberals to come into our mist, and start talking about issues, and I win every debate. We begin to talk about the issues, and when they know they are losing the debate, they call me a racist, and usually, my black friend George tells them, that they just lost the debate. Then all my friends laugh. See, George knows me and he knows I'm not a racist, and so do my other friends. Life has some simple rules, never spend more than you have, and that goes for democrats and republicans as well as people or goverments. Never take more than you can give, and never give more than you can afford. Don't slant or spin, simply tell the truth, or you will lose the respect of your friends, and you will lose your own self respect. Use all your senses when you are with others, and when you meet new people. Taste and smell is the least of these, and sight and heariing are the most beneficial. But when meeting new people, a lot can be said about a handshake. And last, treat others, as you would like to be treated.

Posted by: poppy11 | October 1, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Think what you LIKE, but he's more the president than BUSH, whose 'little brother" more or less assured him "not to worry about it."...not to mention the fiasco in Florida that ensued!!! At least THE PRESIDENT got the presidency LEGALLY!!! gET OVER IT...TO a lot of us, Bush WASN'T our president EITHER, BUT WE DIDN'T ACT LIKE spoiled brats!!!!

Posted by: slamming | October 1, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

slamming (for the last time):

I would be HAPPY to answer your questions just as soon as you give me a cite (I asked first ; )

Classic60:

I would imagine that most of the sales in the past 24 hours are to people who don't even know it was co-written. The book does not even come out until November, but it is the #1 Bestseller at BOTH Amazon and Barnes & Noble:

http://www.amazon.com/Going-Rogue-American-Sarah-Palin/dp/0061939897

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Going-Rogue/Sarah-Palin/e/9780061939891/?cds2Pid=29205&inframe=y

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Maybe YOU can explain why we're THE ONLY modern country in the WORLD to not have health care...AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE...for EVERYONE??? But I have a feeling you have it...and it's probably good coverage, so what's the use...you're never gonna see anything except the fact that YOU HAVE IT, so what's the problem, correct????

Posted by: slamming | October 1, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

P.S. I don't even agree that Barack Obama is legally the "President".

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

If Palin's book is a best seller it's because she didn't write it. She can't but together a coherent sentence. What a waste of human life.

Posted by: Classic60 | October 1, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

slamming:

Jesus Christ lived His life helping people directly, not relying on GOVERNMENT to do so. Deny that.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Getting back to the topic, most off-year elections see the party in the White House losing seats in Congress. The real question is whether next year will see HUGE losses for the Dems. I, for one, hope so.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

jAKEd: I wholeheartedly agree on the president going to promote the Olympics thing...mainly because Chicago has one of the highest murder rates in the US...WHAT'S THERE TO BRAG ABOUT??? And yes, there are MANY other more important things to worry about!!! As far as quoting something from the Bible, I'm talking about the way Jesus LIVED HIS LIFE...he CARED ABOUT THE LESS FORTUNATE!!! Deny THAT!!!!!

Posted by: slamming | October 1, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Ted Sorenson wrote most of JFK's book "Profiles in Courage".

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

paris1969:

Are you aware of the claim that Bill Ayers "ghost" wrote Barack Obama's book? It's standard practice for politicians.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

BobMoses: No sillier than the SAVAGES...that's what they ACT LIKE... who've been attending the 'town halls" all summer!!!! And we call our selves CIVILIZED??? TALK ABOUT frothing AT THE MOUTH...THERE'S A TRUE EXAMPLE OF IDIOTS!!!! Or the 'lady" at the McCain rally also comes to mind who said "he's a... a ARAB!', ALL THE WHILE LOOKING LIKE SHE'D NEVER COMBED HER HAIR IN HER LIFE!!! tHAT'S ALL THE TOWN HALLS CAN RECRUIT??? LOLLOLLOLLOL!!!

Posted by: slamming | October 1, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

"classic60, you better check out how palin's book is doing,and its not even for sale yet. liberalism is toast.
Posted by: 12thgenamerican"

Mostly people want to read it to see if they can identify at least one word NOT written by her ghostwriter!

Posted by: paris1969 | October 1, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I guess you never heard of John Edwards, Elliot Spitzer, Charlie Rangel and John Murtha.

I could go on all night too, but what is the point. If you are ignorant of the unethical behavior of the above, you are too much of a mindless partisan to convince.

Only true idiots believe that either party is better than the other and it looks like there are plenty of idiots here (most of who are shouting in caps to show what idiots they are.)

Posted by: bobmoses
-------------------------------
Don't forget Larry Craig, Bob. A typical Repuke.

Posted by: Classic60 | October 1, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

slamming:

I would be more than happy to answer your question just as soon as you show me chapter and verse, KJV preferably.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

slamming:

Perhaps you can explain why Obama has to go to DENMARK when there are so many other more important things in the world to attend to and the last Summer Olympics LOST over $1 billion?!

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

JakeD: THE PRESIDENT IS ONLY TRYING TO STOP THE INSURANCE COMPANIES FROM CONTINUING ON THE PATH THEY'RE ON UNTIL NO ONE EXCEPT THE RICH WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT!!! HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE GONE BANKRUPT BECAUSE OF THEM??? IF YOU PERSONALLY HAVE INS., GOD BLESS YA, BUT IT PROBABLY WON'T BE LONG UNTIL EMPLOYERS WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PAY IT EITHER, THEN WHAT ARE ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE IT NOW GONNA SAY? DO YOU REALLY WANT TO KEEP MAKING THE INSURANCE COMPANIES RICH WHILE AT THE SAME TIME THEY CAN AND WILL DENY YOUR CLAIM??? AND AT THE RATE IT'S GOING UP...WHERE'S THE END???

Posted by: slamming | October 1, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

theman_in_black -

I guess you never heard of John Edwards, Elliot Spitzer, Charlie Rangel and John Murtha.

I could go on all night too, but what is the point. If you are ignorant of the unethical behavior of the above, you are too much of a mindless partisan to convince.

Only true idiots believe that either party is better than the other and it looks like there are plenty of idiots here (most of who are shouting in caps to show what idiots they are.)

Posted by: bobmoses | October 1, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

slamming -

I picture you frothing all over your keyboard as you bang out your ignorant and hateful screeds. Take the tin foil hat off and go have a drink. Your anger is silly.

Posted by: bobmoses | October 1, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

patsyd:

Here in California, we are over 12% unemployment, headed for 13%, with no end in sight!!!

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

And to: 'let's roll." Why don't you stop using the quote of the flight 93 passenger and think of one of your OWN while you sit there anonymously at your computer typing away? Do you know how MINDLESS AND STUPID your constant yammering of the same worn out phrase SOUNDS??? Believe me, it's NOT impressive!!! But maybe that's the extent of your vocabulary...sad!!!!

Posted by: slamming | October 1, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

The image problem lies with the Dems... the massive, rapid expansion of government under Barry and his Bunch is frightening. Gov't intrusion and control into ever increasing sectors of our lives is why the Dems are destroying themselves from within. Their stale mantra of tax and bring on Big Brother is their death march. They own the town lock, stock & barrel and can't congeal themselves to accomplish anything... at least they can't immediately damage the country while they cannibalize. The forecast for the future will be led by VA & NJ gubernatorial races. NJ is suffocating it's population with taxation... northern VA is populated by lib-left elitists who leech of the gov't and lobby the gov't... if unemployment hovers near double digits through '10, image won't be the catalyst for change... drop the subject Dan - it will become a moot point quicker than you can envision.

Posted by: patsyd | October 1, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

slamming:

Please cite chapter and verse where Jesus Christ said that the GOVERNMENT should provide healthcare. Thanks in advance for your anticipated reply.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Obamacare was a Bridge Too Far. 2010 will be the 1994 GOP Revolution, Part II.

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Chris Cillizza over the The Fix has been covering this trend toward GOP for awhile now (especially by the Independents):

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/most-important-number/the-most-important-number-in-p-42.html

Posted by: JakeD | October 1, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

FLvet: Being a vet, you probably...and deservedly so...have health care...very REASONABLY PRICED health care. Try getting insurance through another place, a place where your premiums are SKYROCKETING!!! But YOU couldn't CARE LESS about the rest of us , COULD YOU??? YOURS IS THE typical attitude IN THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE: I'VE GOT MINE; TO HELL WITH YOU!!! And I'll JUST BET that you call yourself a CHRISTIAN!!!! YES, HEALTH CARE WOULD COST MONEY, but when it comes to PEOPLE LIKE YOU, there's ALWAYS plenty of money for WAR!!!!

Posted by: slamming | October 1, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse


1. Who is showing signs of desperation, nervousness and ridiculousness? Easy, that would be "theman_in_black"

Posted by: FraudObama | October 1, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

James Carvalle was correct. It is the economy stupid. If the unemployment rate is over 10 percent in fall 2010, the Dems will lose big, and I think the GOP will gain 38 House seats, enough to take contral. Dems better solve health care soon, because their real job is to fix the economy.

Posted by: edgar_sousa | October 1, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

A tribute to Restonhoop's list of unethical
GOP politicians:


Quiz Questions

1. Who was it that recently got caught
banging an Argentinian woman on Father's
Day? Also, famous for coining the phrase
'Going hiking on the Apalachian Trail'.


2. Which Congressman got caught chasing
after under 18 interns/pages of Capital Hill?


3. The St. Paul International Airport...
Need I say anymore?


4. In 2007 the now famous DC Madam had this
Louisiana Senator's phone number in her
black-book of regular clients - no he
was not asked to step down from his position. (Also, popular for his Family
Values membership) LMFAO!!!


5. This famous Republican used to reside at:

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500


When asked why Haliburton/KBR had been
allowed to overbill and steal up to
30,000 barrels of oil per day from
the reserves in Iraq, he replied 'Haliburton
are the most reliable military contracting
service in the world...' Who is it? One
of two answers will be permitted as a correct answer.


7. Which former Congressman became the
Intelligence Czar/Head of the CIA - was
forced to step down because he had been
caught giving away military contracts
to his poker buddies, while accompanied
by hookers at the Watergate Hotel?


8. His nickname rymes with Puke, last name
the same as the Happy Days character 'Richie'. Who was the Congressman
caught with the hookers and selling
military contracts to the highest bidder
at the Watergate Hotel?

9. Ok, you're gunna have to strap-in for
this one; Who is the currently sitting
Senator of a family of Mormon Casino
owners that got caught with his pants
down whilst doing the hokie pokie with
a campaign staffperson?


I can do this all night, people...

As long as the right wingnuts refuse to
answer these questions... I will update
and repost with an additional question,
every half hour.

... more to come. =0]

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

We've never seen anything like to anti-government tea parties and town-halls; the Repubs have the most to gain with the displeasure with government. Dems may continue to ignore the discontent; but they do so at their own peril.

Posted by: tcogs | October 1, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

classic60, you better check out how palin's book is doing,and its not even for sale yet. liberalism is toast.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | October 1, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Party, party, party...if either party were consistently doing whta's best for the country...not the party there wouldn't be so many independents.

Posted by: sundog2 | October 1, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

stoplying, it will happen when the people in charge of defending this country get tired of being hung out to dry. seven days in may,only it won't turn out like the movie.this government is way outside what the constitution lays out so it is understandable that some would be able to find justification to fight. i mean, when the government can take your property and give it to wal-mart to raise tax base there is definitly something out of wack. let alone the dem run cities are melting dowen in murder and mayhem.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | October 1, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

It's been 233 years. It's time. Let's roll.

Posted by: PercyKution | October 1, 2009 6:40 PM

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What does that mean? Please explain, because if you are proposing insurrection, I want to be the first to report you to the DHS. You get a free pen with every right wing traitor that you turn in.

Posted by: stoplying | October 1, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

It's amazing how the Dems control house by 70 votes. Control the Senate with 60 seats, and all they do is blame the Republicans for their failures.

Posted by: mike83631 | October 1, 2009 4:51 PM
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The problem is that Democrats don't march goosestep style like every single Republican. The fact that no Republican will vote for certain bills tells you alot about their extremism.

The solution is to vote more Republicans out of office so that between the Repbublican votes and the handful of Dems who may have sold out, we can still hope for progress as a nation.

Posted by: stoplying | October 1, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

No way, the Repubs are out for years. When you have that loser Sarah Palin as the best the GOP has to offer. Sorry Repubs but you are losers.

Posted by: Classic60 | October 1, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

You independents make me sick! You hate the republicans, you hate the democrats, you every party but your own. Do you have any party? NO..are there many independents in congress..No. No party, no people, no power. Nothing. But you really do believe you people would do better, much better. Based on what? WHAT?

Posted by: ilg123 | October 1, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

most of you are just party sheep cant think for yourselves you let the media do it for you you gave up your freedom for security. America the land of opportunistic fat selfish self centered egoistical sociopaths of the world .

Posted by: getsix1 | October 1, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

This is a sad, sad indictment on the American electorate. After eight years of economic terrorism at the hands of Republicans, one would think that we learned a lesson.

So when will Americans get it through their heads? Instead of listening to George Romero-esque Night of the Livng Dead Zombie political talking points and voting another set of extremists into power, adopting a centrist attitude by electing independents is the best course. The country needs to be run according to the interests of the majority of PEOPLE and not who has the most money.

Posted by: pcw5150 | October 1, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Both political parties are screwing main street over. I LMAO when I see people flogging one party over the other. Slapping one party while getting bent over by the other party is more like what is happening. LMAO @ hardcore partisans of both parties.

Posted by: thebigdog1 | October 1, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

It's been 233 years. It's time. Let's roll.

Posted by: PercyKution | October 1, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

what they did not report is how many are registering to vote independents . a lot of younger first time voters after the election are not registering democrat or republican. i am sick of both party's, we did not get three trillion dollars in dept from one party. both have been robbing tax payers for far too long. and it needs to stop. like children they blame each other. does that make it right. then if one steals then its ok for the rest. both sides have too much in common they both are addicted to spending money

Posted by: getsix1 | October 1, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are leading the way the GOP is in trouble. The only folks left in the GOP are the tragically uninformed and the fringe element (Religious zealots, Racial warriors and the Abortion doctor killers).

Yeah...nice base ya got there..

Posted by: A-Contrario


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LMAO!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Republican comeback? With the lowest approval ratings in history + smallest number of people actually identifying themselves as Republicans?

Can't really see it happening.

The "best" that Party has to offer is a Quitter who can't even handle governing her backwater state until the end of her first term. Incompetence was what we had with two Bush terms, and they are pushing for more of the same? Good luck with that plan.

Posted by: marSF | October 1, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I look forward to voting against every Democrat possible next year. With the forced "individual mandate" that will cost me and my wife about $9,000 out of an income of about $55,000, why wouldn't I hate Democrats with every fiber of my being for the rest of my life?

Posted by: BillCarson2 | October 1, 2009 6:09 PM

============================
WELL you said the OPERATIVE word..HATE..!!

Which means you are part of the Bigots and Racists of the new Republican Party..

AND determined to vote against your best interests..


PRO Polluted food, water, air, land..and BRAINS

ISA

Posted by: Issa1 | October 1, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are leading the way the GOP is in trouble. The only folks left in the GOP are the tragically uninformed and the fringe element (Religious zealots, Racial warriors and the Abortion doctor killers).

Yeah...nice base ya got there..

Posted by: A-Contrario | October 1, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

There is only one thing worse than Government and that is Corporate America. The CEO's who pay themselves million dollar paychecks for playing golf. When they ruin shareholders, bondholders, and the company they run they take a multi million paycheck to get kicked out of the door.
Then we have men working as our representatives in Washington telling us they hate their employer, but not enough to give up the graft from Corporate America.
Imagine going for an interview in Corporate America and saying " I hate your company and the only reason I want you to employ me is to give me an opportunity to destroy your company.
Bring on the second Republican coming, I still have a few dollars left that they didn't steal the first time around.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | October 1, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

A tribute to Restonhoop's list of unethical
GOP politicians:


Quiz Questions

1. Who was it that recently got caught
banging an Argentinian woman on Father's
Day? Also, famous for coining the phrase
'Going hiking on the Apalachian Trail'.


2. Which Congressman got caught chasing
after under 18 interns/pages of Capital Hill?


3. The St. Paul International Airport...
Need I say anymore?


4. In 2007 the now famous DC Madam had this
Louisiana Senator's phone number in her
black-book of regular clients - no he
was not asked to step down from his position. (Also, popular for his Family
Values membership) LMFAO!!!


5. This famous Republican used to reside at:

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500


When asked why Haliburton/KBR had been
allowed to overbill and steal up to
30,000 barrels of oil per day from
the reserves in Iraq, he replied 'Haliburton
are the most reliable military contracting
service in the world...' Who is it? One
of two answers will be permitted as a correct answer.


7. Which former Congressman became the
Intelligence Czar/Head of the CIA - was
forced to step down because he had been
caught giving away military contracts
to his poker buddies, while accompanied
by hookers at the Watergate Hotel?


8.His nickname rymes with Puke, last name
the same as the Happy Days character 'Richie'. Who was the Congressman
caught with the hookers and selling
military contracts to the highest bidder
at the Watergate Hotel?

As long as the right wingnuts refuse to
answer these questions... I will update
and repost with an additional question,
every half hour.

... more to come. =0]

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Suggestion to the editor of the Washington
Post...


If you continue to run articles that lean
so unjustifiably to the right, people like
myself will hammer you and your rediculous
premise' into the dirt.


You are only making matters worse for the GOP.

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

I look forward to voting against every Democrat possible next year. With the forced "individual mandate" that will cost me and my wife about $9,000 out of an income of about $55,000, why wouldn't I hate Democrats with every fiber of my being for the rest of my life?

Posted by: BillCarson2 | October 1, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

A tribute to Restonhoop's list of unethical
GOP politicians:


Quiz Questions

1. Who was it that recently got caught
banging an Argentinian woman on Father's
Day? Also, famous for coining the phrase
'Going hiking on the Apalachian Trail'.


2. Which Congressman got caught chasing
after under 18 interns/pages of Capital Hill?


3. The St. Paul International Airport...
Need I say anymore?


4. In 2007 the now famous DC Madam had this
Louisiana Senator's phone number in her
black-book of regular clients - no he
was not asked to step down from his position. (Also, popular for his Family
Values membership) LMFAO!!!


5. This famous Republican used to reside at:

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500


When asked why Haliburton/KBR had been
allowed to overbill and steal up to
30,000 barrels of oil per day from
the reserves in Iraq, he replied 'Haliburton
are the most reliable military contracting
service in the world...' Who is it? One
of two answers will be permitted as a correct answer.


7. Which former Congressman became the
Intelligence Czar/Head of the CIA - was
forced to step down because he had been
caught giving away military contracts
to his poker buddies, while accompanied
by hookers at the Watergate Hotel?


*Advanced hint - the next question will
be affiliated to the above scandal and
his nickname rymes with Puke, last name
the same as the Happy Days character 'Richie'.

As long as the right wingnuts refuse to
answer these questions... I will update
and repost with an additional question,
every half hour.

... more to come. =0]

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Now that it's getting a little too real,
Restonhoops took his ball home, he doesn't
want to pway no more?


=0[

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

*The 30,000 stolen barrel referrence is
a number that had been formulated by the
GAO two years ago.


DOH!!! Did I give that one away, OR WHAT?!

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

A tribute to Restonhoop's list of unethical
GOP politicians:


Quiz Questions

1. Who was it that recently got caught
banging an Argentinian woman on Father's
Day? Also, famous for coining the phrase
'Going hiking on the Apalachian Trail'.


2. Which Congressman got caught chasing
after under 18 interns/pages of Capital Hill?


3. The St. Paul International Airport...
Need I say anymore?


4. In 2007 the now famous DC Madam had this
Louisiana Senator's phone number in her
black-book of regular clients - no he
was not asked to step down from his position. (Also, popular for his Family
Values membership) LMFAO!!!


5. This famous Republican used to reside at:

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500


When asked why Haliburton/KBR had been
allowed to overbill and steal up to
30,000 barrels of oil per day from
the reserves in Iraq, he replied 'Haliburton
are the most reliable military contracting
service in the world...' Who is it? One
of two answers will be permitted as a correct answer.

As long as the right wingnuts refuse to
answer these questions... I will update
and repost with an additional question,
every half hour.

... more to come. =0]

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

With all the lies, fear mongering, and phony outrage by the teabaggers, birthers, led by fox news and limbaugh it amounts to jack squat as far as voters changing parties. What has happened since Obama has become President is evident to me. Republican, the sore losers, have made a pact, to lie, spread fear, divide with hate, and do everything in there power to destroy President Obama regardless if it benefits Americans. As far as the drop for democrats, Americans are fed up with them too. They are fed up because they aloud the republicans to spread there lies once again. If democrats would just ignore republicans, stand behind our President and demand a public option, the poll numbers would increase dramatically.

Posted by: kubrickstan | October 1, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow, after only 9 months this time. You libs are getting more pathetic by the day..

Posted by: SMWE357 | October 1, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

With all the lies, fear mongering, and phony outrage by the teabaggers, birthers, led by fox news and limbaugh it amounts to jack squat as far as voters changing parties. What has happened since Obama has become President is evident to me. Republican, the sore losers, have made a pact, to lie, spread fear, divide with hate, and do everything in there power to destroy President Obama regardless if it benefits Americans. As far as the drop for democrats, Americans are fed up with them too. They are fed up because they aloud the republicans to spread there lies once again. If democrats would just ignore republicans, stand behind our President and demand a public option, the poll numbers would increase dramatically.

Posted by: kubrickstan | October 1, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

A tribute to Resonhoop's list of unethical
GOP politicians:


Quiz Questions

1. Who was it that recently got caught
banging an Argentinian woman on Father's
Day? Also, famous for coining the phrase
'Going hiking on the Apalachian Trail'.


2. Which Congressman got caught chasing
after under 18 interns/pages of Capital Hill?


3. The St. Paul International Airport...
Need I say anymore?


4. In 2007 the now famous DC Madam had this
Louisiana Senator's phone number in her
black-book of regular clients - no he
was not asked to step down from his position. (Also, popular for his Family
Values membership) LMFAO!!!


As long as the right wingnuts refuse to
answer these questions... I will update
and repost with an additional question,
every half hour.

... more to come. =0]

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

When it comes down to it, people are going to be wise enough to not worsen problems by returning to the Bush/ Enron/ Wall Street/ Blackwater/ Foley Party. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

Posted by: revbookburn | October 1, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Taking the house and senate away from liberal socialists should be the long term goal. The white house hasn't been able to set the agenda on economics for a while. Obama can have 4 terms is he wants as long as he is not able to let his minions write legislation. He can't veto eveything without tanking his numbers further.

Posted by: NoWeCant | October 1, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

As an independent ex-democrat I can tell you I will never be a democrat again now that these whacked out liberals stole the party.

Posted by: Jade_406 | October 1, 2009 4:36 PM
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Since we are "qualifying" ourselves, as an independent THINKER, I'll never official align myself with either party because they both have a "whacked out" element that seems to steal the show from the more moderate of the groups.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 1, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

A tribute to Resonhoop's list of unethical
GOP politicians:


Quiz Questions

1. Who was it that recently got caught
banging an Argentinian woman on Father's
Day? Also, famous for coining the phrase
'Going hiking on the Apalachian Trail'.


2. Which Congressman got caught chasing
after under 18 interns/pages of Capital Hill?


3. The St. Paul International Airport...
Need I say anymore?


... more to come. =0]

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

To bad we vote for congress and not what you want. 2010 is going to be a rude awaking for you and your party. What can they say that have achieved? Saying no to everything and putting forward nothing and sitting on your hands, isn't going to get you any votes.

Posted by: whatdyousay | October 1, 2009 4:39 PM
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It's amazing how the Dems control house by 70 votes. Control the Senate with 60 seats, and all they do is blame the Republicans for their failures.

Posted by: mike83631 | October 1, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse


I enjoy reading the Republican delusions. All that's changing is that bitter, racist, extremist idiots are having temper tantrums because their vision for a fascist America is gone forever. And good riddance.

For example: Obama is a mainstream, rational, moderate American politician -- with all the flaws that includes. There is absolutely nothing radical about his agenda (that America voted for in a landslide). Yet, America's lunatic screaming right-wing fringe have lost their minds. Ask them why and they get confused. They have no real arguments or complaints, so they hide behind ridiculous & racist conspiracy theories (WHERE'Z YOU REEEEEEEEL BIRF SERTIFIKET??? SEKRET MOOOOOZLIM! and blah blah blah).

What are they so ANGRY about? Angry enough to become anti-American terrorists, threatening violent revolution against their own democratic country (instead of winning elections)?

A black man in the White House. That's it. They know their corrupt and white supremacist good ol' boy network is dead and that they can't win elections, so conspiracies, LIES and threats are all they have.

So have fun at your goofy revolution. We'll win the elections. :)

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | October 1, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to polarization, relatively few seats are in play. Most jurisdictions are solidly one way or the other. And while "Democrat" would lose to "not a Democrat", unfortunately, Republicans need to put actual people in those slots, and the wingnuts on the GOP bench are born losers. There's no place in the GOP for moderates, and little place among Dems.

Also do not discount the loss of Howard Dean, who was a superb party builder. Tim Kaine won't be as good; he's an Obama toady. Obama's strategy is not magic; Hillary lost the nomination much more than Obama won it.

Posted by: gbooksdc | October 1, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Obama lied, liberals died.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | October 1, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I could deal with a republican congress and HRC in the white house. That would be a lot better than what we have today.

restonhoops >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

To bad we vote for congress and not what you want. 2010 is going to be a rude awaking for you and your party. What can they say that have achieved? Saying no to everything and putting forward nothing and sitting on your hands, isn't going to get you any votes.

Posted by: whatdyousay | October 1, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Is mandating Fox news and allowing Rush on the radio in Federal Buildings a violation of the Hatch Act? Is conservative talk radio that is critical of the president a violation of the UCMJ when broadcast at a military facility? Because, it is a common practice for GSA property managers, and Military officers

The Hatch Act restricts the political activity of executive branch employees of the federal government,
federal and D.C. employees may not-
use official authority or influence to interfere with an election
solicit or discourage political activity of anyone with business before their agency
solicit or receive political contributions (may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations)
be candidates for public office in partisan elections
engage in political activity while:
on duty
in a government office
wearing an official uniform
using a government vehicle
wear partisan political buttons on duty

- Steve, Juneau Alaska

Posted by: averddy | October 1, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

seems that all of momma's basement babies and obozo's paid acorn thieves are out in force today.

real unemployment up to 18%, over 35 million on food stamps, manufacturing down, housing down, democrats killing democrats in all the major cities, aids killing democrats, Buyer's remorse, troops dying in President Acorn's afghanistan war and he's not talking to his general.

All this and more while obozo and the wookiee are big toof grinnin in Europe on the taxpayer's dime.

The republicans have the money and the brains. keep pissin in the wind, idiot lib-tards. You are history in 2010 and 2012.

get used to it.

Posted by: charlietuna666 | October 1, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

As an independent ex-democrat I can tell you I will never be a democrat again now that these whacked out liberals stole the party.

Posted by: Jade_406 | October 1, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the Republican "image problem" is that their image reflects their reality.

It's quite possible that after seeing the effect of 12 years of controlling Congress and 8 years of controlling the White House, the public as a whole is getting tired of seeing the Treasury stripmined for the good of America's wealthiest and the standard of living for the other 95% of us dropping between rapidly and horribly. It's quite possible that the public as a whole is less than enthusiastic about the impact -- financial and human -- of having been lied into a totally unnecessary war ... and of having the warmongerers continue to lie about it.

Some people may be unhappy at seeing money for heat and food taken from the elderly and the poor and the working poor and being given to the oil companies; others may be unhappy that banks bankrupted by greed do not use the taxpayer money given to help homeowners in distress but use it instead for bonuses.

It's also possible that most people think that repeated threats of violence against opponents is really not something they want to support.

We'll leave aside massive GOP hypocrisy and intentional dishonesty on issue after issue after non-issue.

Posted by: edallan | October 1, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

OK Restonhoops,


Are you ready for the wife cheating -
pedophile Republican Congressmen game?


.

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I could deal with a republican congress and HRC in the white house. That would be a lot better than what we have today.

Posted by: restonhoops | October 1, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Most African American families consider themselves morally conservative, however, very few consider themselves Republican. Suggests that Republicans, the them, are either not moral or are not really conservative.

Posted by: concernedaboutdc | October 1, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats have controlled Congress for almost 3 years, most of the last year with a Democratic President. They've shown they can outdo the Republicans. For every $1.00 in wasteful spending and debt the Republicans could run up, the Democrats have shown they can run up $4.00. For every $1 Republicans spent on a special interests the Democrats have shown they can spend $10. The Republicans may have been tax cut happy, but that seems to have worked a lot better keeping unemployment low than the Democrats multi-trillion dollar spending, debt, and printed money spree. The democrats keep spending and spending and spending and unemployment keeps going up and up and up! We haven't seen 9.7% UNEMPLOYMENT since Ronald Reagan's tax cuts got the economy rolling in 1893-84. The Democrats are power crazed. We need to remember that times were good when we had a Republican Congress and a Democratic President in the mid/late 90s. In 2010 we need to end the arrogance and power crazed madness and restore the checks and balances of a Republican Congress. Then in 2012 we need to get rid of the arrogant radical in the White House, and put Hillary there!!!!

Posted by: valwayne | October 1, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Why won't anybody on the right stand up to the sickos preaching violence against the president? The Republicans don't seem to care that the whackos have taken over the party.

- Linda, Oklahoma

Posted by: averddy | October 1, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

The country is too impatient, too A.D.D.ed and too angry at both parties. You do not trust the Republicans to lead due to the last eight years of no leadership and intense politicization of governing process and the Dems are beholden to special interests that they have to pay off after the election. Change takes time health care will take not one year but ten years.
Also, we as Americans continue to tell each other that we are the best country in the world....are we still? Or do we say that because we are more insecure then ever. The world is changing whether we like it or not...we used to think we could stop it or control it----message to Americans that train has left...we either try to catch it or be run over!!!!!!

Posted by: marckroll | October 1, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

theman_in_black

All of them on my list are Dems, um that was the point, but thanks for playing. I know who the racist Senator from WV thanks for playing from home..

Posted by: restonhoops | October 1, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The country is too impatient, too A.D.D.ed and too angry at both parties. You do not trust the Republicans to lead due to the last eight years of no leadership and intense politicization of governing process and the Dems are beholden to special interests that they have to pay off after the election. Change takes time health care will take not one year but ten years.
Also, we as Americans continue to tell each other that we are the best country in the world....are we still? Or do we say that because we are more insecure then ever. The world is changing whether we like it or not...we used to think we could stop it or control it----message to Americans that train has left...we either try to catch it or be run over!!!!!!

Posted by: marckroll | October 1, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Forget party affiliation, it's meaningless. Look at Ideological identification:

“Conservatives” Are Single-Largest Ideological Group
http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Conservatives-Single-Largest-Ideological-Group.aspx

The idea the Conservationism is dead was wishful thinking by libs in the MSM.

Posted by: systrac3 | October 1, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Representative Trent Franks called Obama "an enemy of humanity" this week - with no remorse. As you say, this is getting out of control. Every person who sees where this language is going - from part-time census workers hanged naked to the murder of the head of the state Democratic party in Arkansas and random shooting in a Unitarian Church - needs to speak up now. If you are from Arizona, call Trent Franks and tell him that this language does not represent even the right wing of Arizona.

If you have Republican representatives or senators, ask them to speak out. We need to hear Republicans and other conservatives speaking out against this language of hate and terror. John McCain and Lindsey Graham - even Olympia Snowe - have a responsibility to help stop where this is clearly going by reducing the credibility of all those who would threaten our government and it's representatives with violence.

Albuquerque, NM

Posted by: averddy | October 1, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Bush = WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!"

Posted by: angie12106 | October 1, 2009 3:54 PM

Obama = WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!!

See I used three exclamation points so my point is more valid. Democrat talking points and arguments are so childless and vapid its hard to take any of them serious. Unfortunately our educational system has been so dumbed down and corrupted the last 20 years this is what we have to deal with.

Posted by: restonhoops | October 1, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Ummm Restonhoops,

As I appreciate your list on it's creativity
your #11. is a Democrat Sen. Byrd the
former KKK member that fathered an out of
marriage black child. Also, his family has
mysteriously become one of the most powerful
producers of coal, in the state of WV.


Whilst the GOP may be pure evil, the
democrats aren't far behind.

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

With geniuses like Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber and Glenn Beck leading them...it's easy to see why the Republicans look strong and ready to run things again. They're going to fix all that destruction and damage they caused under Bush. Really. For sure they are. They're not kidding. No...they really really REALLY mean it.

Just trust them.

Posted by: wilder5121 | October 1, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse


HAHAHAAAA HAHAAAAHA HAHAAAAA!

Honestly, Republicanism is dead.

Young Americans and anybody whose not a racist white, middle aged, homophobic, religious extremist, terrifed, ignorant, xenophobic world hater will never, EVER buy into their backwards and FAILED ideology. These are people who lose an election and "suffer" an improving economy, a tax cut, an improved image in the world and the HORROR that more Americans may have greater access to the basic human right of healthcare and they lose their flipping minds and become anti-American terrorists. They're just dumb.

Good luck winning a national election, unless you change everything you believe and actually grow some morals that aren't drowned by hypocrisy.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | October 1, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

These sound like Dems not Republicans
Republicans:

1. homophobic neanderthals (This one is just silly)
2. tax-phobic cockroaches (Charlie Rangel sure doesn't like paying them)
3. selfish cowards (John Kerry)
4. religious hypocrites (BHO)
5. mean spirited jackasses (Al Gore) (Al Gore fits in all these almost! This is a fun game)
6. hateful mamma's boys (Al Franken)
7. sexually repressed perverts (Barney Frank)
8. anal retentive crybabies (Gosh Barney goes in here too!)
9. self-righteous simpletons (Al Gore)
10. misogynists (John Edwards and Bill Clinton)
11. rednecks (Your KKK member from West Virginia)
12. anti-intellectuals (Maxine Waters)
13. paranoid schizophrenics (Al Franken)
13. callous slugs (Harry Reid)
14. greedy hogs (Michelle Obama and Tom Dasch1e)
15. stupid, stupid, stupid (Well just about the whole party goes here how about we use Shelia Jackson Lee as a placeholder?)

Posted by: restonhoops | October 1, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Ignore this article. Poll results are used by the media to generate frenzy and buzz. More meaningful are trends over long periods. Say, in December we'll trend Republican supporters over the past year verses Democrats. Spot polls are meaningless.

Posted by: 1234xyz | October 1, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Cibor,

Who do you think you are kidding...


The Republcians aren't winning anything.
It is the ebb and flow of the status quo.
Both the Republicans and the Democrats
take hundreds of millions of dollars
throughout their career in DC. Neither of
them are any better than the other. If
the Republicans were in office saying they
wanted a healthcare bill (this is a
hypathetical - I know that would NEVER
happen), the Democrats would find a way to
block it.


Be patient - Micheal Moore's movie will be
in theaters soon. If you actually value
your vote and intend to be aware and
congicent of your actions in the the
ballot booth, go see this movie.

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

The Republican party is in trouble because the republican party started spending like Democrats during the Bush years. So, naturally, lots of conservatives and independents stayed home on election day in 2006/2008. Why vote for people who are democrat-light when you can have the real thing?

Now that the Republican party is acting more conservative again, the faithful will return. 1994 meet 2010.

Posted by: silencedogoodreturns | October 1, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Despite Dan Balz' cheering, exactly what does the GOP have to offer to the public (Other more tax cuts for the wealthy)?

Posted by: kevin1231 | October 1, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Hallett503 commented

"The Republicans are winning the health care debate because they are a team. They are cohesive, well disciplined, well coached, and understand the game."

I disagree.

Republicans were shut out of the process. It is the implosion of the Democrats caused by the far, far left extremists trying to intimidate, bribe, and finally fight the moderates that has caused this nasty failure.

That, and the reality that you cannot insult American voters and still expect them to believe you tell the truth.

Posted by: cibor | October 1, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Pay Close Attention Babby-Boomers: You are
responsible for this govt. in DC. You are
the majority generation. You will also be
responsible for the deaths of the highest
percentage of any generation. I say we
chill and let all these ignorant people
kill themselves off before we pass
a proper meaningful healthcare program.

An additional plus, there will be more
jobs available as they die off. Yay!!!


2 more Die whilst the Senate takes time
to honor Senator Hatch on his achievemnets.

According to the Harvard Study on deaths
due to uninsured 45,000 per years. That
would be 11.60 minutes betweens deaths.


Thank you Republicans, maybe that Fl
Congressman is correct in assuming that
you would rather the sick 'Die Quickly'!
As you waste time stroking each other
in DC.

Posted by: theman_in_black | October 1, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

When I'm disappointed in Dems and Obama - I merely remember the HORRIBLE years of Bush and Cheney - bankrupting our country and shrinking the middle class.
Bush = WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!

Posted by: angie12106 | October 1, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Sarah Palin's book is now #1 should cause Democrats to wonder.

It should also cause their heads to explode.

Nov. 17th it becomes available, and 1.5 million copies will be published. She was paid $7 million in advance.

Not bad for a SNL joke...

Posted by: cibor | October 1, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

As an Independent voter, I would support moderate Republicans over moderate Democrats who kowtow to the extreme left of the Democratic party. If the Democrats ram through more wasteful spending and an unwanted Heathcare bill without public scrutiny and input, in my view, that would be tantamount to a socialist takeover of the United States, until 2010.

Posted by: dodavatar | October 1, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

It would be interesting to get inside the head of an independent.

I wonder what they would have thought had Obama held the line on spending and the country went into a depression as a result?

Posted by: Maddogg | October 1, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

mftill wrote: >>>how does providng U.S. health care for the beleaguered of Latin America either help the U.S. economy or encourage Latinos to change their own oligarcies?

Yet another reason to support the Public Option - allowing illegals to purchase AFFORDABLE health care.
Illegals are here to stay because greedy corporations continue hiring them.

Posted by: angie12106 | October 1, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

This should be required reading for all of those Move-On members. I can remember going to a Move-on local meeting and listing to them talk about Blue Dogs like they were followers of Glen Beck. I told them I love Blue Dogs and they thought I was from the Mars. Thank God Obama is trying to lead the country not the progressive caucus.

Posted by: bradcpa | October 1, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

There is hardly a whit of difference between Democrats and Republicans. Neither Party has shown a talent for governance. Neither Party, when in control, has submitted to the will of the governed. Both Parties are content to dine at the big business trough. Both Parties are a joke!

Posted by: Diogenes | October 1, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Bush never vetoed a Republican SPEND and BORROW bill.
NEVER!
But Bush did veto food for poor kids and funding for stem cell research.
Republicans LOVE embryos - but not actual human beings that cost more OUTSIDE the womb.

Posted by: angie12106 | October 1, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"How is denying healthcare to a dying immigrant in an emergency room a Christian value."

And how does providng U.S. health care for the beleaguered of Latin America either help the U.S. economy or encourage Latinos to change their own oligarcies?

There is emergency room care for EVERYone in the US, BTW. It's NOT free, except to indigent recipients. YOU and all of us who pay our bills subsidize it.

Let's hear it for the gummint of Mexico...Honduras, Guatemala...and on and on.

Posted by: mftill | October 1, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Dan Balz, for getting deep into this story. Your level of coverage is truly deep. It's "Balz deep."

Posted by: seraphina | October 1, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

The republicans gave us the Great Depression, the financial collapse of 2008, two wars we cannot win, and no WMD in Iraq. Plus a broken health care system where their remedy is for patients to die quickly to protect the insurance company profits.

We need to give them another try.

Posted by: Maddogg | October 1, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

How can anybody think of voting Republican after what Bush, Cheney and company have done to this country?

Obama has a lot of cleaning up to do. The evil goes back to Reagan, and Clinton was worthless. Let's give the first adult we've had in the White House since Nixon a chance to do some real work.

Posted by: ReaganHumpedDogs | October 1, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

republicons do one thing very well. They lie from the same page. And as Goering pointed out in his rules for propaganda - if you repeat something often enough it becomes the truth. that is the rpeublicon mantra.

If anyone with a IQ above that of the average turnip is supporting these people they must hope that mental health is fully covered when the final health care bill comes to President Obama in early November.

republicons remind me of a small yappy dog chaing a bus. they are noisyand frantic, and when they catch the bus they do not have any idea what to do next. they yapped and yepled for years until they got control of the federal government, had no clue what to do next, and ended up crashing the entire country. If you forget that and offer them your support you are a fool. unfortunately your stupidity hurts us all.

Posted by: John1263 | October 1, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The pendulum swings as it always has.

Posted by: kls1 | October 1, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats are delusional. They are about to lose two governorships in places where Obama won big last year. Meanwhile, the Republicans shouldn't be dancing in the streets. They have to earn back the people's trust to act like Republicans and never go back to Obama-like socialism again. A pox on both of their houses until they change their tune.

Posted by: kenpasadena | October 1, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans may have a little swing now and then, but they are doomed in the long-term by simple demographics.

The loud "Tea Party" minority is just that.

Posted by: pcc7407 | October 1, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

GOP comeback, who cares. I want to see a Democrat GO-AWAY. The lib-nazis can take the GOP along with them as they are all controlled by the same elite political class. Revolution now!

Posted by: doctorfixit | October 1, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA MUST FAIL!
OBAMA MUST FAIL!
OBAMA MUST FAIL!

TWO FOUR SEVEN
NON STOP NEGATIVE

OBAMA MUST FAIL!
OBAMA MUST FAIL!

Posted by: Tomcat3 | October 1, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

It really is time for a new party. Why do the republicans with their non stop low class clamor have a claim to represent the Christians in this country. How is denying healthcare to a dying immigrant in an emergency room a Christian value.

No one on either side is really representing fiscal responsibility, and I don't see that changing. Romney could be the best pick in that area, but he seems like a billionaire that is into his power network. How do you get a guy like that to come down off his mountain and relate to the average American and really understand what the poor or working class have to go through.

Meanwhile the non stop let's disagree with Obama no matter what decision he makes continues, as long as he doesn't make the best decision whichever it is, we'll attack, continues.

The republicans deserve to lose. The democrats aren't much better unfortunately.

Posted by: joshmw | October 1, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

What have the republicans done that would merit a comeback? I'm pretty sure the American public hasn't forgotten the largest expansion of government in our history under their watch. They care so much about out deficit that they dumped 1.7 trillion and counting into a country that we should never be in in the first place. They have not come to the table on anything important in America since Obama took office. They only dream of getting back in power. The party of no ideas, no leaders, and no seats

Posted by: whatdyousay | October 1, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse


did the polls change pro for the gop ??? ...maybe like a beaten wife syndrome sufferer who never learns?!...didn't that bush whooping hurt bad enough?

or maybe when premiums strangle voters in the next few years and tea baggers get a taste of mandates to buy private insurance without a public option - the polls will reverse again.....towards sane!

Posted by: ryan_heart | October 1, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are winning the health care debate because they are a team. They are cohesive, well disciplined, well coached, and understand the game. The President and his party are a pick-up team, no coach, no discipline, no plan, and unable to score. It's painful to watch.
The nation needs and wanted health care reform but the Republicans are just too good and the game is almost over. The nation has been persuaded that the Democrats can't be trusted to get the job done.

Posted by: Hallett503 | October 1, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The changes in polling are not due to Obama alone, mostly those of us who always identify as independents are completely disenchanted with the vast majority of politicians from both parties.

We voted in the Dems to get accountability over the Bush administration. They failed, they didn't even bother to investigate. Pelosi said "impeachment is off the table" and Reid did everything in his power to support Bush's agenda.

We voted in Obama hoping that with a clear majority the Dems would do the right thing on our civil rights, our health care and regulating big business. They are failing again, we need to sweep the incumbents out of office entirely. Party affiliation only means something on social issues like abortion now. Both parties are corrupt and corporate owned, "we the people" have become irrelevant to them. Just look at the public option going down in flames to see this is true.

Posted by: datdamwuf2 | October 1, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

AMERICA IS IN AN OBAMA HANGOVER

Relief will come in 2010.

The Dem/Obama nightmare will soon be over.

Obama--Socialism, incompetence, and sloth

Posted by: JaxMax | October 1, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Who are idiots willing to vote for a party full of liars, thugs and criminals. I know that papers like the Washington Post and columists like Dan Balz will do their best to portray these crazies people as mainstream as they have done along.

Posted by: kevin1231 | October 1, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I last voted for Jimmy Carter. Next election I'll vote again for the first time -- straight republican.

My delight in seeing a nice mixed race family ("black") occupy the white house stained by Barack Obama's extreme liberal views and extreme racial bias.

Obama believes, like many white liberals, there is such a thing as good racism. Although his racism is based in ignorance and good intent rather than hatred those affected by it are none the less harmed just the same -- the Asian student denied opportunity because of his race could care less the motivation was hatred or bias.

Obama's blind desire to correct history at any cost will be an expensive repeat of all liberal welfare programs -- like the family member who enables the drug addict Obama's remedies do more harm than good.

Posted by: ram_xxx_ram | October 1, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse


Everybody register republicon and then vote out the incumbants. That will send them a message and end their party! Their party of destroying the will of the people, that is.

Posted by: maphound | October 1, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Rumors of a Republican comeback are more than a bit premature.

More likely, it is the mainstream media continuing to prop up a dead body, in what can only be discribed as yet another "Weekend at Bernies" adaptation.

How else to explain all the coverage of the daily antics of the GOP and it's "Strange" policies?

How else to explain the complete lack of investigative coverage of the Bush admin., followed by the complete lack of exposure of what Bush's failed presidency brought about for the American people...

There's been no connecting of the dots, there's been no grand revelations, and there's certainly not been any calls for justice.

YOU LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IT.

Now you are trying to claim that his party has been resurrected from it's much deserved grave?

Gee, seems like only yesterday the majority of American voters relegated the GOP and Republican party to the wilderness.

Oh well, please continue to wave the dead body's arms around in a gross parody of life... We'll all pretend it's alive...

Posted by: BellsBlu2 | October 1, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse


Read this column carefully

and you'll be hard pressed to find any reason to think Republicans are gaining.
Dan Balz really creams this one.

Posted by: whistling | October 1, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Dan Balz is wishfully thinking. Just because people are disappointed with Obama and Congress doesn't mean they want Republicans back. I'm a registered Republican but am ashamed of the negativity and hypocrisy of Republican elected representatives. The Republicans haven't come forth with a positive idea for American since Reagan was president. All they do is oppose, oppose, and more oppose. As a foreign leader, at G20, said recently "Obama wants health care for everyone, yet they draw Hitler comparisons." Just some more irrational opposition when you don't have anything positive to contribute.

Posted by: jerpat | October 1, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

While there are obviously several democrats that have been brought, the whole GOP has been brought and paid for.

So what I find ugly and annoying with the dems I find out right despicable with the GOP - what a choice!

Posted by: agapn9 | October 1, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Republican's have dragged this country down. Their economics is based on belief not on facts. If the American people do in fact have an increasing faith that Republicans will help this country then the middle class will become an American anachronism.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 1, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Did Grayson go too far? Probably.
But I'm wondering: When will the GOP condemn Joe Wilson, Michelle Bachmann, the Newsmax toadie John Perry (who advocated sedition in his recent column), etc.?
When, and only when, the GOP shows some integrity and does that, will I have any sympathy for them.

Posted by: vegasgirl1 | October 1, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Fear, Hatred, Distortion and Division is all Republicans have to offer.

Comeback?? Not a chance!

Posted by: thebobbob | October 1, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

maye in midterm but in presidenteal obama wins going away.in mid terms not many people turn out.because most of incumbents will win very few upsets.

Posted by: donaldtucker | October 1, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Everyone should be afraid of more government power and intrusion into our lives. They want to control your health care and energy needs. Scary.

Posted by: FLvet


That's so TRUE!!! We should leave the Health care choices to the Health Care Insurance industry - they know what is best that ails you and as for "energy" keep the status-quo - and drill baby drill.

Posted by: kparc | October 1, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Of for goodness sake. This is proof positive of how fickle the american voting public is(along with uninformed, uneducated, illerate, etc. etc). Of course Obama's numbers along with the democrats are going to go down, they are the party incharge..jeez! Now lets look at it another way. Are the positives for repubs going up..NO! When compared to Palin, Pawlenty, Jhindal, Gingrich, Huckabee how does Obama do? Gimme a real, live republican candidate counter point, and show me the same results, then this dem will worry. Obama and the democrats will do fine for no other reason that the current republican party is a complete and utter joke!

Posted by: ilg123 | October 1, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Everything I know about talking to people about politics, using facts, persuasion and appeals to civility I learned from LarryG62.

Calling your opponents "idiots" doesn't work, but I don't think the GOP should change a thing. That political party has told America it is dedicated to having the President "fail." It scares me how far they're willing to go with this. Lying, insults and exaggerated claims seem to be their most well-worn tools.


Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | October 1, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Is it as simple as Dem or Repub?

I hate Max Baucus and his smug greedy attitude...and he's a dem (not really - he's a Republican as George Bush).

I hate Orin Hatch and his smug greedy attitude...and he's a repub. (not really, he's religious fanatic from the LDS church)

I hate John Kerry and his arrogant and holly-er than though Ivy League persona and he's dem but not really, he's a member of the Top 1% that owns 51% of the country.

What I really hate is that our government is made up of members of the aristocracy - regardless of what party you're talking about. None of them can relate to the working class, the poor, the starving and etc.... They're all living in Rome and enjoying themselves immensely. In the meantime our country is falling into economic ruin....we've witnessed the greatest transfer in wealth in the history of the planet over the past 20 years.

But Baucus, Hatch, Kerry, Obama, McCain, Boehner, Reid, Snowe, Collins, Nelson, Enzi, and all of them are living a life of luxury on the backs of broken down tax payers.

Yup - I fear my government because of those who are running our government. The Repubs tore us down and the dems are showing they're part of this Roman empire problem and not part of the solution.

How can Baucus say with a straight face that we can't afford a public health care option? Look at his plan.....we're paying for his plan.

Posted by: go2goal | October 1, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

One more thing-Who is reading Palin's book?
What more could she possibly do to create havoc? Don't answer. It is amazing how she makes money-what is next? Guided tours to Russia? And Steele-Just opens his mouth and it gushes out crap! Really where do these words of whatever come from?

This has been one more year that has seemed like eternity. Scar1 is exhausted-truly. I am even thinking about going out of the Country for a while-need "fresh air".

Economy; War, Wall Street; No money; no car; CEO's; Bernie; Afganistan; Iraq; Somoa; Phillipines; trouble, trouble everywhere-talk about tired-t, total, tired!!

Posted by: Scar1 | October 1, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I think true Independents vote for a party as a way of saying "We want things done, we want solutions." When the parties start to dither, as the Democrats do, or ignore big problems and focus on small matters, as the Republicans do, the Independents switch. Independents want to see action on the big issues and not concentration on social issues. It's why they're never happy because the Democrats haven't been able to forge a consensus and take decisive action for the past 40 years so the Independents will swing back to the GOP. But then they'll grow disenchanted with the GOP when they realize that nothing is being done to address the issues that concern them most. I don't know who has a more miserable political existence - Independents who flit back in forth hoping for action or Democrats who watch in dismay as their party fritters away everything while hand-wringing.

I pray President Obama has learn a lesson from te Health Care debate - present the Congress with the Bill you want pass - there has been too much watching the sausage being made for my taste and I think the rest of Americans are equally disgusted.

Posted by: dre7861 | October 1, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

"Republicans:

1. homophobic neanderthals
2. tax-phobic cockroaches
3. selfish cowards
4. religious hypocrites
5. mean spirited jackasses
6. hateful mamma's boys
7. sexually repressed perverts
8. anal retentive crybabies
9. self-righteous simpletons
10. misogynists
11. rednecks
12. anti-intellectuals
13. paranoid schizophrenics
13. callous slugs
14. greedy hogs
15. stupid, stupid, stupid"

____________________________

Spoken like a true enlightened liberal. Your tolerance and education shine like a beacon of knowledge and understanding in this dark and savage time (overseen by a Democrat president). But don't let your wisdom be shuttered by the ugliness of the polling data, for one thing is as true now as it was when you received your extremely rigorous liberal arts degree in Sociology and Women's Studies: numbers are racist.

Posted by: zippyspeed | October 1, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

if any have doubts about the Republican agenda...
ask them...
ask them what their agenda is...
and tell them you want details...
if they can't tell you what they want to do...
don't vote for them...
this goes for both sides...
if a dem already is your congressmen, ask him if he read the bills he votes for...
test him...

Posted by: DwightCollins | October 1, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

The A hole in the White House has done more to destroy our economy and our security in the few unfortunate months he's been in office, than any terrorist ever could.
More is coming, and one day you class envy nitwits will wake up and realize that you are paying through the nose, in dollars and lost freedom, for all the handouts you thought would be free.
What a bunch of idiots you are.

Posted by: LarryG62 | October 1, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Comeback to what exactly? No, we do not believe so. We do not see that as an option at all. Unless it is to hogwash.

They have done so much dirt-hogwash is about all that is worth. And that is all I have to say on that!!

Let me get to Mr. Lou Dobbs-CNN and his rant "Inoctrination or Education"-How about being proud of a man who has achieved dreams many have dreamed but, in some cases never got to see those dreams or have the opportunity to just act on those dreams. So, President-again Lou Dobbs, President Barack H. Obama has inspired some to go beyond the words and actually accomplish what some have said: "a Black man or woman did not have the talent or ability to achieve or want to do". So, indoctrinated for years to look up to 43 "White" Presidents-one Black child named Barack inspired and believed in the fact he could and he did. So, now that same man does inspire young children to sing, shout and dance that they are inspired and that is not indoctrination but, true pride in a Black man who happens to be the first African American President of the United States of America.

And, Mr, Dobbs some children do not have to be told to react they know to react to those that inspire them. Actually, I have a grand that at 5 years old recognizes President Obama and she leaps at his name and says, "Grandma!! that is my President-Barack Obama!!" Anytime he comes on television she is inspired and that to me is worth more than gold. Anytime a young person stops to listen and understands what it means that is no indoctrination.

It is pure love for the person and pride for their accomplishment. Even at five years old she knows what she sees. She sees something new and someone in her image as in diversity.


So, Lou Dobbs and all you "ding bats"-stop the implication of "socialist who indoctrinates". Another "act like theory from Cohen" I guess. Who cares when you are five years old and one is your hero-like Obama is to so many young people-especially my grand.

Posted by: Scar1 | October 1, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Republicans:

1. homophobic neanderthals
2. tax-phobic cockroaches
3. selfish cowards
4. religious hypocrites
5. mean spirited jackasses
6. hateful mamma's boys
7. sexually repressed perverts
8. anal retentive crybabies
9. self-righteous simpletons
10. misogynists
11. rednecks
12. anti-intellectuals
13. paranoid schizophrenics
13. callous slugs
14. greedy hogs
15. stupid, stupid, stupid

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | October 1, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I generally vote democrat - voted for Obama.

I realize the repubs are the party of the aristocracy and the corporation. If you're outside those two groups, then it's just say not. They are the party of trickle down economics which is nothing more than a modern day economic policy of slavery....let the workers live on a shoe string and the have's will rejoice in luxury.

But I'm ready to vote for anything but dems and repubs.....neither party is for the common American.

Obama has been a lot of hot air. Notice the recession is declared to be over and yet Obama hasn't mentioned campaign promise #1....to reverse the Bush tax cuts on the rich.

I'm ready for real change!

Posted by: go2goal | October 1, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

It's like Will Rogers once said, "I'm not a member of an organized political party. I'm a Democrat."

Posted by: curtb | October 1, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

citizens will remember senators and congressmen telling them that they vote the way they want to, not the way the people want them to...
citizens will remember the way the dems called in the union goons to attack them...
citizens will remember how one dem bite off the finger of one protester...
citizens will remember a lot of things come election day 2010...
in the meantime lets see what happens on election say 2009...

Posted by: DwightCollins | October 1, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Just because people who Registered Democrat recently to throw out the god awful Republicans are currently not identifying with the party doesn't mean that they're going to vote Republican next time around.

Watching the Democrats flounder about and still get nothing done even as they've picking up huge majorities is just so freakin sad. The Independents will only get larger as they continue to pay lip service to governing and rack up huge lobbying contributions to keep anything from getting done.

Our system is corrupt to the core. It's not Democracy it's Corptocracy.

Posted by: theobserver4 | October 1, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

This article is wishful thinking....that things aren't really so bad. Support for Obama and the Democrats has collapsed, and their proposals have been repudiated—and it's only going to get worse.

But this Democratic administration and Congress don't matter anymore. They have already failed, with no chance of recovery.

The question now is whether we can save the nation and the world from the damage of these corrupt and incompetent idiots?

Posted by: Jerzy | October 1, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

So in other words the title of this opinion piece should be "Independents Gaining Ground While The Big Two Lose Cred.

Posted by: 1FLWB2 | October 1, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

This is exactly what media studies show. Negative campaigns (which is what the Republicans have been running since President Obama took office) deflate your opponent's numbers, but they do not increase your own. To put it another way, negative campaigns chip away at the soft supporters (the independent leaners) but they do absolutely nothing to the core. However, negative campaigns are a losing strategy unless you are so far ahead that you do not need to attract anyone (although parties in that position never resort to negative campaigning--they don't have to).
I would imagine that in 2010, when we go to the polls, unemployment will be down by 3 to 4%, GDP will be up by 3 to 4% and the immediate provisions of health care reform will be realized, so if I were a Democrat running for office in 2010, I would be very excited. If I were e Republican, I would start thinking about how I could take credit for at least part of the recovery that is underway (I think that is what Bobby Jihndal is trying) and how I will downplay my votes against the stimulus package and health care reform.

Posted by: Prosperity2008 | October 1, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

It should be noted that the Real Clear Politics average of results for the generic Congressional Vote poll has the Democrats up only 3.3%. The Rasmussen generic Congressional vote poll has had the Republicans ahead for weeks and I believe Rasmussen has the best track record on this sort of thing. How you identify yourself is less important than how you would vote.

Posted by: shorowit1 | October 1, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Have become unhappy with the Democrats but not so much that I can vote for the criminal perverted Republicans. They are all a disgrace and should be ashamed of the job they continually fail to do. Any third party will do. I plan to vote against every incumbant every republican, and most democrats. May have to leave some blank or write in but will not vote for the lessor of two evils.

Posted by: notabeliever | October 1, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Republicans have Munchausen by proxy syndrome. They endanger others, then try to draw attention to themselves by pretending to be heroes.

Posted by: rooster54 | October 1, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

The GOP is spreading a message of hate,despair,fear and about any other negative word you want to use. Mixing race based hatred with the poor economy and stroking the gun nuts to produce a feeling of anxiety.

My health care cost is increasing 8.8% next year along with benefit reduction and rationing of service. Perhaps we could do better with a government run health care option-I think so.

Gotta go, the health insurance company canceled benefits and I have to pull the plug on grandma before noon.

Posted by: COWENS99 | October 1, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats have absolutely no clue of this. You can see it in the way they act.

So lets roll the credits of the names of those who brought down the Democratic majority in record time:

Obama (for lack of focus, morals or resolve to help the American people in any meaningful way, and lying regularly)
Pelosi (for insulting voters and lying about her own collusion)
Reid (for being a downright sneak)
Jarret (for constant misjudgements and an attitude that no one matters more than her or her agenda)
Olberman, Maddow, Matthews, Rhodes, Huffpo, Shultz, and the other Democratic blogs (for racing each other to employ exactly the same tactics that the Bushies were criticised for and also insulting everyone that does not agree with what they think Obama wants)
Dodd, Frank, Shumer, Feinstein, and all the other useless lawmakers (for taking large amounts of lobby dollars and faking concern for the American people, and for being NO different from the neo-cons, and for wasting the narrow and temporary window they had to change things)
Glibbs (for being almost impossible to listen to or watch)
Timmy the Tax Cheat, Bernake, and all financial wizards (for stealing unfathomable money, in broad daylight, from the American people while blocking reform of all kinds)
Rice (for being a total shill for the Zionists)
Michelle Obama (for being constantly clueless and insensitive toward the American people by flaunting a wasteful, condescending lifestyle while people are suffering)
All the male talking heads that insult women in politics that they don't agree with, no matter how old they are ( this really makes people mad)
Obama's crazy doctor friends (who scared the ever-lovin crap out of seniors and other people)
and, again, Obama (for being just as much of a warmonger as Bush was, but with renewed resolve to allow innocent people to be slaughtered, anonymously this time, by drones)


Posted by: tropicgirl | October 1, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

A bright young man just announced for Cong. as a Republican candidate in our district. True, he has been one of the more intelligent Republicans in the legislature. But what does he stand for on the national level?
The incumbent Congressman is the former Ways and Means co-chair from the legislature, known to be a stickler on performance measures for state agencies. Hard to paint as "wasteful", and given that the incumbent comes from a more rural area than the challenger, hard to paint as out of touch with ordinary folks.

It would be a pleasant change to have an intelligent Republican candidate run for Congress in this district.

But can this young man resist the pressure to run a generic "any Democrat is by definition a tax and spend liberal, so everyone should vote Republican" campaign? Time will tell.

Time will also tell whether the young man understands that with one 2 year exception, every member of Congress since the district was created was either a Vietnam vet or an advocate for better treatment of veterans. What does this young man understand about those issues?

And, about this,
"gap in party identification is now the smallest it has been since 2005."

In our area, Democrats have a little over 40%, Republicans have a little over 30% of the registered voters. The rest are either NAV (not affiliated with a party) or members of minor parties.

Generic partisan campaigns don't generally win over those folks. What can the Republicans do to win over such voters? Surely not a slash and burn "all Democrats are bad" or "he voted for the stimulus" type campaign.

We have seen what happens when the "all taxes are bad, all tax cuts are good, deficits don't matter" crowd is in control.

Posted by: GHDEL | October 1, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Elect non-politicians!

Posted by: Chamaco | October 1, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Gallup also said that although Independents are now split with Democrats (13%) and Republicans (15%), the party identity of Republicans has NOT increased. It still is only 27% while Democrats are 35%.

Thus if there is a "base" election, Democrats will win.

Posted by: maritza1 | October 1, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Everyone should be afraid of more government power and intrusion into our lives. They want to control your health care and energy needs. Scary.

Posted by: FLvet | October 1, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

A republican comeback would be a sad morning in America. But I ask, combeback from eight years of destroying this country?

Posted by: truth1 | October 1, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

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