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Obama says he will not 'rush' decision on troop levels

By Michael A. Fletcher
JACKSONVILLE -- President Obama fired back Monday at critics who accuse him of taking too long to review his strategy in Afghanistan, telling an audience of military personnel here that he will not "rush" his decision on whether to send additional troops there.

Before 3,500 members of the military and their families in a hangar at Naval Air Station Jacksonville, Obama said that U.S. troops deserve a clear strategy and full support to fulfill their mission.

"I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm's way. I won't risk your lives unless it is absolutely necessary," Obama said to loud applause. "And if it is necessary, we will back you up to the hilt."

Framed on the dais by uniformed members of the Navy and Marine Corps, and with members of other branches standing in front of him, Obama pushed back against those who have said that his weeks-long review of Afghanistan strategy is endangering troops there.

Former vice president Richard B. Cheney accused Obama last week of "dithering" as he weighs whether to add 40,000 new U.S. troops to the fight in Afghanistan. Cheney said Obama "seems afraid" to make a decision, adding that as the president makes up his mind, "America's armed forces are in danger."

Afghanistan military commander Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal has said he needs the additional troops or else the United States would risk failure of its counterinsurgency strategy there.

Obama met Monday morning with his top national security advisers in the White House Situation Room before traveling to Jacksonville.

In a question-and-answer session with reporters aboard Air Force One, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said that the president 's decision "could come at any moment," although he said most likely it would be announced within weeks.

In his remarks to the troops here, Obama thanked them for their service and said his administration is doing all it can to support them. He said he would sign a $680 billion defense authorization bill later this week, even though the measure includes $560 million for an alternate F-35 engine that he opposed as wasteful.

"To make sure you can meet the missions we ask of you, we're increasing the defense budget," he said.

Before speaking at the troops, Obama met with the families of fallen soldiers. He thanked the larger group, who he praised as "best-trained, best-prepared, best-led force in history."

"Your dedication to duty is humbling," Obama said. "Your love of country is inspiring. The American people thank you for your service. We honor you for your sacrifices. And just as you have fulfilled your responsibilities to your nation, your nation will fulfill its responsibilities to you."

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After it was outed that he tried to bribe the doctors, you should all know for sure this is not about health care but about controlling the lives of the people which he is doing on behalf of his wicked elitist wealthy handlers.

This man is worse than Hitler and Mao combined.

He is working for two men I consider more dangerous -- Soros and David Rockefeller.

Posted by: username | October 28, 2009 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Well! I see that the same brutes and bullies I went to high school with are still alive and kicking some a--, only this time as armchair quarterbacks and cheerleaders turned soccer moms. All of this baiting and taunting accomplishes nothing. The meek will inherit the earth, I think I've heard somewhere before, and I seem to remember that the first shall be last and vice versa--thank God and amen. Leave POTUS alone, bullies on both sides. Let the man himself prove his worth and accomplish his destiny. "Until philosophers are kings, or the kings and princes of this world have the spirit and power of philosophy, and political greatness and wisdom meet in one, and those commoner natures who pursue either to the exclusion of the other are compelled to stand aside, cities [nations] will never have rest from their evils,--no, nor the human race, as I believe,--and then only will this our State have a possibility of life and behold the light of day." (Socrates in Plato's Republic, Book V)

Posted by: walk2write | October 27, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

PEOPLE!!!! WAKE UP!!! This is so freaking simple...BHO CANNOT commit troops until after the Obamacare matter is settled...if he does send troops now, he will LOOSE valuable votes on Obamacare and it will NEVER pass. HE IS TRADING THE LIVES OF OUR TROOPS TO SECURE HIS POLITICAL FUTURE!!! God help us all and God Bless America (we certainly need it now)!

Posted by: bkc2008 | October 27, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

To those with short memories, if what was done-- making the right decisions, when it should have, on Iraq and Afghanistan there would have been no need now for the president to weigh his moves.

Making good decisions involves a thought process, not the flip of a coin. Mr. President take the time you need.

Irrespective of results you will be in the "hot" seat.

Posted by: Victoria5 | October 27, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Well that much is self-evident. He's only been president for 10 months... 267 soldiers dead in Afganistan since Obama has taken office. His staying on the bench and not making decisions is costing real American lives. That is almost double what was lost the last two years of the Bush presidency. Obama's indecision embodens the enemy resulting in more American deaths. Way to go Obama, you must be so proud of yourself for your accomplishments, since apparently it is only you that matters. He is incompetent. He was in the senate for 18 months before George Soros ordered him to run for president, and all the moron knowshow to do is campaign. He is incapable of governing effectively. Hussein Obama has no problem flying to France or taking his wife to NYC for a "date". Too bad he cant make a tough decision. I guess George Soros will have to tell him what to do.

Posted by: Jables_WA | October 27, 2009 3:06 AM | Report abuse

The items that the US public is not supposed to know about are rushed through using speed readers. The items that cost lives now take forever. This idiot in th White House is not capable of protecting anyone and/or watching out for anyone's "safety and security."

Posted by: nosam32 | October 27, 2009 12:07 AM | Report abuse

If Obama made the decision now, it wouldn't be rushed. Late maybe. What's the delay? We have troops being shot at and he wants more time? I think we need to remember what he said in his book "When going gets tough, I'll side with Muslims first"! Well, the going is tough so I guess he's siding with Muslims so his brothers won't be hurt!

Posted by: TexRancher | October 26, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

The reason Bush said mission accomplished on the Lincoln was because he did not know what the mission was. It took three more years to figure it out. If Obama takes three months to figure out what it took Bush more than three years the troops will be much better off. Military affairs are too complicated for those who think Bush was an acceptable president. If they can not recognize an incompetent when he repeatedly announced it for eight years how can anyone accept their evaluation of Obama who has only been in office for less than a year to have any validity.

I have my questions about Obama but not in the case of Afghanistan. Those complaining about the speed of decision simply want to complain about Obama. He will make a good decision on Afghanistan and unlike with Iraq, we will understand what we are doing there.

Posted by: Gator-ron | October 26, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Obviously, you don't understand the concept of thinking things through BEFORE embarking on important "life & death" actions. You would withhold life saving medical treatment from your fellow citizens, but yet not hesitate to send them and their children needlessly to their deaths, or worse. You see, truly wise men may be driven by something more important than mere profiteering. I am ashamed to share a country with so much ignorant hatefulness.

Posted by: com1rich | October 26, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

The war decision will just have to wait while Barry handles more pressing issues at home like making sure FOX News does not find any more incriminating stories or facts about him or his appointees. Seeing that the Chamber, by some miracle, will buy into Gore’s bogus CO2 climate change theory. Maybe get some more very important legislation through Congress like the new government give a cell phone away program to make sure Sprint, AT&T and others have plenty of competition they have no chance of competing against. Capitalism at it’s finest moment.

I guess cell phones are now considered an absolute necessity for the needy. I should not complain. They could be giving away free green cars pretty soon to keep GM in business. They tried free homes for a while but that did not last very long. What’s next, 40 acres and a mule? The government does not have to profit in their business, they have an unlimited supply of money and voters/ customers.

The men in battle will just have to dodge bullets and radical suicide bombers a little longer by themselves. He needs to plan a couple more photo ops with the troops and warm up the teleprompters.
The men in battle will just have to dodge bullets and radical suicide bombers a little longer by themselves. He needs to plan a couple more photo ops with the troops and warm up the teleprompters.

Posted by: longbow65 | October 26, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Have the brain dead Republicans got their orders from "Rush the Junkie" or has Fox News had a "flash" ? It's no wonder they're the minority party, what is amazing is that anyone admits they're a Republican. They should be ashamed & crawl in a hole & hide.

Posted by: wasaUFO | October 26, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Bush & "Big-Dick" Cheney spent 8 years trying to destroy our country, now the stupid Republicans are in a rush to save it ? The Republicans think everyone is as stupid as they are ... they should smarten up.

Posted by: wasaUFO | October 26, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

deadlines for stimulus. deadlines for automakers. deadlines for health legislation. troops, no rush.

Posted by: dirty_ed | October 26, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

You people who support Obama are like an ostrich, you have your head up your a..

He has done nothing since coming to office but berate our country, apologize to foreign nations for the U.S.A., traveled around the world with his family site seeing, nationalized the banks, auto industry, etc. so now he can fire their employees and determine salaries, he won't listen to our generals as Hitler did not listen to his, he wants the government to run health care when the government can't run the postal service, medicare, Fannie Mae, he worked with ACORN and now says he does not know how much money the government is giving ACORN (when he said that on national TV one could tell he was lying), his ego is hugh, he is arrogant, he has not joined a church (is it because he does not believe), he is very friendly to the Muslims................the American people made a big mistake last November. He will destroy our democracy.

Posted by: libertymeanslife | October 26, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Gee we have a leader who can't make decisions......his ratings are tumbling, esp. with Independents and are Allies. Are our enemies afraid of Obama? Stupid ?. Heck, no, they are not. He's all talk and will allow this nation to go down both economically with China owning more of us, and he lacks the ability to determine national defense. He will proof to be the most ineffective president in our history. I am an Independent, so commenters, quit blasting the Republicans. Most of us Independents must have been asleep, but now we are awake.

Posted by: libertymeanslife | October 26, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

His policy on Afghanistan is to give a speech.

Posted by: alstl | October 26, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Just a question! If the Bush Admin did everything so STELLAR when it comes to Iraq and Afghanistan, WHY WERE WE STILL THERE IN 2008?

So now THESE are the folks that some of you are listening to as to who is taking too long to make decisions? SERIOUSLY!

Posted by: Angryman | October 26, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

RETHUGS have the biggest mouths on the planet. They think they can just bully everybody into accommodating their needs for blood and war.

Hey Rethugs that %hi$ worked with Dubya, but it does not work with President Obama. He is his own man, unlike that puppet George Bush that was being pulled and yanked every which way but loose.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | October 26, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse


Sounds like an audition for Fact Checker at Fox News, reading some of the posts here.

Posted by: jfern03 | October 26, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Even an incompetent general knows enough to kill the enemy before him.__A politician, who achieves office by PLEASING (lying to) ALL SIDES can't decide when there is an "I can delay" option before him.__He didn't achieve personal success by killing off people but by co-opting them.__Obo, the INTERNATIONALIST, can't bring himself to antagonize Muslims, foreign Muslims, because he is more interested in becoming King of the World than just the POTUS.__He can't afford to antagonize DemonRat voters in Virginia and New Juicy by sending reinforcements to Afg. because then, the 'rats will sit fuming in their homes rather than getting out to vote for more DemonRats as governors, leaving our troops to twist in the wind for domestic political gain, personal gain.__Yeah, those DemonRat politicians----they make great military general substitutes, HAVE ever since Harry in Korea and Lyndon in the 'nam.

Posted by: zickzack | October 26, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

POTUS already under Pentagon pressure on Afghan troops, so...


The emergency declaration gives federal agencies draconian powers that allow bureaucrats to suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. See:

There is strong evidence of fierce resistance and opposition to President Obama and his administration within certain powerful quarters of the bureaucracy, especially among Bush-Cheney holdovers that investigative reporter Seymour Hersh refers to as "leave-behinds" tasked with a mission.

The concern is that a multi-agency coordinated action program may be the front for an ideologically-driven secret war against this President, and democracy itself.

My fear is that the Obama administration, with his emergency declaration, may be handing the noose to those who seek to execute a seditious plan to undemocratically seize power, at the expense of personal liberty and constitutionally guaranteed rights -- including the right to refuse to be inoculated by government fiat.



• Deposed Honduras President Manuel Zaleya confirms the essence what unjustly targeted citizens worldwide -- including this journalist -- have been reporting for years...

...military, secret security, and intelligence services of many nations, including the U.S., silently assault and torture "targeted individuals," including those regarded as "dissenters" or slandered as undesirables, with debilitating, health-degrading, "slow-kill" electromagnetic microwave and laser radiation weapons systems -- said to include a nationwide installation disguised as cell towers.


OR (if link is corrupted): RE: "Gov't Tortures" and "Gestapo USA."

Posted by: scrivener50 | October 26, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

January 11, 2010 (AP) Pool reporters covering the Obama golf outing in St. Maartens were able to get a response from the President when the pool was mistakenly provided access close enough so a question could be heard, if yelled. Fox's Major Garrett asked how the Afghanistan strategy sessions were going, and President Obama replied that "we are receiving a number of good opinions, and the process continues. I am in no rush to commit any more troops unless we determine it is the best policy for our great country. We are still waiting the complete analysis I asked for when General McCrystal was replaced by General Yesman in December. When that analysis is in, my team will be better able to fine tune the final strategy."

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | October 26, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse


what ignorance. (lifeblood of the GOP)

Posted by: jfern03 | October 26, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh well,I suppose AWOL Commander in Chief
Wannabe Barack Hussein Obama,can find enough ways to stall making a decision to
send his own General in Afghanistan the
80,000 more US Troops until 2013 or whenever this pathetic loser Obama terms
of office are over,unless we get lucky and
the New Republican Congress Elected in 2010 Impeaches this useless,gutless POS
Barack Hussein Obama,other wise it will be

Obama lies + U S Troops Die!

Obama Dithers = More Us Troops Die!

Posted by: redheadclaudine | October 26, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Asking a general what to do is silly.
What response are you gonna get? Ya think any general would say: "We should pull out, Sir". HUH?

The military loves a fight. asking the military what we should do is asking a junkie on skid row if he thinks more heroin would help.

Both are very very predictable answers.

That's EXACTLY why we have a civilian government and a civilian commander-in-chief of the military.

God bless america for that!

Posted by: jfern03 | October 26, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Don't ever forget that if coward Clintoon, the DRAFT DODGER and DEMONRAT had done his DUTY and 'waxed' OBL when he had the chance, '911' WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED AT ALL.__THAT'S why Sandy Berger stuffed the reports of the incident INTO HIS PANTS at the National Archives, OUR ARCHIVES.__His handwritten notes in the margins of the incident report, telling how Clintoon refused to act when OBL was in CIA's sites had to be stolen to keep them from being discovered by the likes of Bob Woodward.

Posted by: zickzack | October 26, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Golf, 28 fund raisers, trips to lure the Olympics, photo-ops etc etc ad nauseum. Obama is not ready to make a decision on Afghanistan because he has only gotten to page 12 on the health care bill of 1500 pages. The others are waiting.

Posted by: mharwick | October 26, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Yep! Makes perfect sense, John Kerry advising Obama on war strategy. B.O. advising me on Healthcare,Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid leading the charge of a social/marxist takeover and bankruptcy of the Country.
Tell me all you Libs, how's this Obama thing working out for ya? lost your kid in a war yet? Got a job? How much is left in your 401K? Healthcare realy looking better? Got your Swineflu shot yet? Economy is looking great Huh? Grocerys and gas is getting cheaper? Are you ready to pay your Carbon Tax?
Relax, it will all look better when you give up your sovernty to the UN and the New World order.

Posted by: jhnjdy | October 26, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad he won't rush his decision, because it'll be the wrong one no matter what he does if he keeps the lying, deceitful McChrystal as commander. I'm just relieved Obama can rely on all the combat experience he got as a community organizer in Chicago.

Posted by: GordonShumway | October 26, 2009 7:34 PM
The General is one of our finest commanders and will not suffer what Gen. Tommy Franks did in Iraq. Give him what he wants (probably not on his timetable) and I'm very sure he will get the job done. Military commanders in the U.S. are right 99% of the time, I would not question their judgement.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 26, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Gates said he wouldn't "sit on his hands" regarding the troop deployment to Afg.__If he's any kind of man at all he's ALREADY sent emergency troops to Afg. to supplement our besieged contingent, no matter WHAT that MARXIST TRASH in OUR White House says.

Posted by: zickzack | October 26, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

The fever of anxiety about Afghanistan that grips the President's opponents had an incubation period of six or seven years. It's a pity that they did not take to the streets in 2002 to urge Presidents Bush and Cheney to finish up the campaign in Afghanistan before launching another war.

At this point the US and NATO may have worn out their welcome, and we may unable to define a victory and achieve it. Deep deliberation is more than appropriate - it is long overdue.

Posted by: rootedcosmopolitan | October 26, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

The fever of anxiety about Afghanistan that grips the President's opponents had an incubation period of six or seven years. It's a pity that they did not take to the streets in 2002 to urge Presidents Bush and Cheney to finish up the campaign in Afghanistan before launching another war.

At this point the US and NATO may have worn out their welcome, and we may unable to define a victory and achieve it. Deep deliberation is more than appropriate - it is long overdue.

Posted by: rootedcosmopolitan | October 26, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney already has a proven track record in Afghanistan and Iraq--TOTAL FAILURE. Who needs his advice on these issues? But he speaks, uses the word "dither," and the crackpots are underway.
It's too bad the crackpots have to express their hatred of President Obama in such dumb, silly ways over and over. I think they would rather see every American soldier in Afghanistan dead than have Obama achieve success there. Their inane childishness and hatred of America can only help the Democrats come election time.

Posted by: parkerjere | October 26, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

While CIA operatives with bags of cash have proven very effective for drone targeting terrorists, the Karzai government would not survive two minutes without our troops being there. Many Americans don't like the decade long process of building a country from scratch, but seen in Iran, an educated populace won't be brainwashed by power hungry mullahs, nor can America be called the Great Satan when their standard of living is raised so dramatically. The bonus of the Afghan/Pakistan pipeline opening up reserves larger than Saudi Arabia also will help the world economy.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 26, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

The problem with republicans is ...they always have to have an enemy. I've never heard a positive republican ad. It's always attack, attack, demonize - instead of solutions. That goes directly to the aggresive, redneck tendancies of the party in general.

Take warmaking for example. Few things republicans like more than war. The republican elite see our armed forces more as an enterprise, a business that must be kept employed as should all those that service it. That means there must always be a war going for them. That's mistake number one.

They love to wrap themselves in a flag to keep the military machinery moving forward while demonizing any criticism as unpatriotic or unamerican.

Acutely uninformed republican masses rally around that, never really knowing what the hell is going on, like in the tea parties, where these ignorant masses are trying to protect the very companies that screw them every chance it can.

So Cheney is scolding Obama because he hasn't fixed the mess HE (Cheney)created?

And the ignorants can't even understand how screwed up that last statement is.

A little "dithering" on Iraq could have saved 4000 americans and a trillion dollars, DICK!!!!!

Posted by: jfern03 | October 26, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

EXCELLENT!!! Obama, don't be pressured into wacking the hornets nest with a bat. Learn from the Russians. Get American troops out of Afganistan, NOW!!!

Posted by: demtse | October 26, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Is it not crystal clear that American troops sent to Afghanistan are just going there to please the Pentagon? The British were there, so were the Russians, and they all gave up. Vietnam would be a silly comparison, it was "easier" and look where it ended up. Iraq has been a total disaster and , with no termination in sight, the "West" is looking for another disaster. Leave these people alone and let them find their own destiny--without our "Help".

Posted by: jsparilli | October 26, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh, if only these words had been said by the then Commander-in-Chief when I was released from active service during the Viet Nam Era in 1971. My life would have been quite different:
"Your dedication to duty is humbling," Obama said. "Your love of country is inspiring. The American people thank you for your service. We honor you for your sacrifices. And just as you have fulfilled your responsibilities to your nation, your nation will fulfill its responsibilities to you."

Posted by: revpad | October 26, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

sure take your time on war issues but ram health care reform through without reading any of the bills. our troops deserve better. we need to get rid of the impostor in chief

Posted by: jd18 | October 26, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama just does not have the intestinal fortitude to make a serious decision. All he can do is talk, talk, talk.

Posted by: edgar_sousa | October 26, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama is starting to scare me being in campaign mode all the time. After election day you will hear the skinny ion what was probably decided already, ending stoploss by spring, getting 10,000 Iraq troops to Afghanistan by spring, another analysis and the balance of 30,000 when available from Iraq. Figure the Green Zone and vital facilities take 50,000 men, meaning 70,000 get drawn down. Boot recruits will also take a year of training. With Pakistan making a good effort, we have no choice but to also up the ante. NATO should be given the aid delivery/training portion and US, Brit, Canadian and Australian troops hold ground counterinsurgency portion.

Posted by: jameschirico | October 26, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I see the affirmative action president is still clueless about what to do in Afghanistan. What leadership!. Gas prices up, unemployment up, deaths in Afghanistan up and the boy president says don't rush me. Actually it's probably a good idea because everything he does turns to crap.

Posted by: theBozyn | October 26, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

THAT'S the military problem.__The general's DON'T have "their way".__Obo and the Marxists in OUR White House are having THEIR way via RULES OF ENGAGEMENT which tie the hands of OUR troops and what they can do.__When you commit to WAR, you MUST do a 'Sherman' and WIPE OUT all before you, going from where you start---to where the end is---the "exit strategy" everybody is always whining about.__Instead, we have the Vietnam-like SUFFERING among our troops which the DemonRats in Washington ARE JUST FINE WITH.

Posted by: zickzack | October 26, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

The Pentagon must be put back in the bottle. It’s no longer effective.

Obama was put in office by the voters.

Obama is the decider now.

IF generals had their way boys would still be dying in vietnam.

Posted by: Rubiconski | October 26, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Obo is Marxist trash.__His henchmen and henchwomen in OUR White House are Marxist trash.__Death to all their Marxist plans.__Death to Islam.__Death to Mecca and Medina and the Islamic CULT's Holy Places.__Islam----it's THEIR kids---or OUR kids............I vote for OUR kids.

Posted by: zickzack | October 26, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad he won't rush his decision, because it'll be the wrong one no matter what he does if he keeps the lying, deceitful McChrystal as commander. I'm just relieved Obama can rely on all the combat experience he got as a community organizer in Chicago.

Posted by: GordonShumway | October 26, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

He'll cave to the Israeli lobby and send more US troops to Afghanistan to die for Israel. It's only a matter of PR timing. How sad for America.

Posted by: Spiritof761 | October 26, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

At this point in time, there is no danger of Obama rushing his decision. This indecision is his modus operandi. He is intelligent and well-spoken, but is not a leader.

Posted by: JohnRice | October 26, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

It's f___ing chow time brother..

Posted by: AG11 | October 26, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse


This is called using YOUR BRAINS Repubs.

Posted by: A-Voter | October 26, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

You see one must feed Cousin Mohammad's Sausage Fectory slowly to avoid clogging the meat grinder or slowing down the steady progress of Killing Americans.
Obama, apparently, wouldn't want enough there to be efficient and actually not get butched does he?
It is a bad time to serve the US CONSTITUTION.

Posted by: dottydo | October 26, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Why aren't all the ignorant wingnuts out here complaining and wetting their diapers over every move that our president makes over in Iraq fighting their boy George Jr's war?

Posted by: losthorizon10 | October 26, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

"Today, I'm announcing a comprehensive, new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan. And this marks the conclusion of a careful policy review, led by Bruce, that I ordered as soon as I took office. My administration has heard from our military commanders, as well as our diplomats. We've consulted with the Afghan and Pakistani governments, with our partners and our NATO allies..." -- Obama, March '09

"I will never rush the solemn decision of sending you into harm's way. I won't risk your lives unless it is absolutely necessary" -- Obama, Oct '09

Posted by: NoWeCant | October 26, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

the boy has bad 10 fing months - he was even given the plan by bush. he announced his plan in march - was what bush recommended.
now he wants time.
he did not even read a 1.6 trillion dollar spending bill.
he was forced - because congress was forced - not to immediately marxistize our health system - and he needs time?
he went to europe to help chicage negotiate an olympic bid - which would have made chicago billions after we paid the billions for them.
he could take 3 months to pick a darn dog.
he could take airforce 1 to ny for a darn date and visit the grand canyon and travel the world saying he was just so sorry for being an American.
now this is the last straw. he is backing out of iraq and afghanistan and we will be back to being killed by islamic terrorists and saying how sorry we are for making them kill us.
boy is what he is. no experience and ends up in a poker game with men, and betting America on his lack of ability.
change congress - try those attempting to violate our system - try them for treason and when they are convicted - hang them.
impeach obama and hang him too [but after a fair trial].
and lets get back to being a representative democracy instead of a marxist police state.

Posted by: infantry11b4faus | October 26, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

It is Obama's war now and he cannot blame anyone else if it fails. He has been pres (if we can call it that) since January 20th and he still has to "think about it". He loves is photo ops, the plane trips, the prizes from abroad - but making a decision on most anything he has to get clearance from his handlers. What a mockery he is making of the office of the president!

Posted by: PalmSpringsGirl | October 26, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Plenty more helo's and special op's people where those three came from; no one is suing us for the civilians killed and maimed in Warizastan...hey, no problem; so what's the rush?

Posted by: Common_Cents1 | October 26, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

The troops are dying, the defense contractors get richer and Obama still smiles and asks for love. 3 years and 2 months left. There is of course impeachment.

Posted by: KBlit | October 26, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

What does Congress recommend America does in the Middle East Conflict. And how well has Congress managed Wall Street and the US Economy? We're doomed. America needs a revolution.

Posted by: blakesouthwood | October 26, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Another "paper tiger" democRAT president!

Posted by: cschotta1 | October 26, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

That's what happens when you vote someone unqualified, still voting present.

Posted by: Atenora | October 26, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Bring all the troops home.

And stop whining.

On 9-11 we were attacked by Saudis, in al-Qaeda, not by the Taliban. Oh, by the way, al-Qaeda continues to get more than 95 percent of their funding and volunteers - and 100 percent of their anti-American religious texts - from Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: WillSeattle | October 26, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Nothing like neocons - can't please them no matter what you do. If he had acted quickly, y'all would've accused him of thinking with his little head instead of his big head. Now, of course, you're accusing him of dithering. So, just to clarify for the future, what is the correct length of time? 2 days? 2 weeks? 10 days 13 hours 27 minutes 18 seconds?

I don't agree with a number of his policies, but I can't applaud hard enough or loud enough his decision to formulate objectives and examine just how many troops are needed. "Winning" isn't a valid objective - just what is "winning?" Is "winning" OBL's head on a pike? Is it the Taliban no longer in control of any part of Afghanistan? Is it Afghanistan becoming a democratic republic? Is it all three? Is it something else? "Winning" a traditional war is about getting your opponent(s) to surrender or killing all of them. Heretofore that goal has been fairly straightforward as defining who was an ally or an enemy, historically, was pretty simple: an ally was anybody on your side and an enemy was everybody else. Hence history being full of examples of entire villages, towns, cities, countrysides, etc., being slaughtered. Thankfully, our (read: many in the western world. I do not know enough about the cultures in Asia to even attempt to speak for their morals) sense of morals has evolved such that we view such actions as reprehensible. This does, however, make "winning" a war more difficult when fighting an enemy who is not organized like a traditional nation state and, thus, will have numerous factions which will not abide by a surrender (or armistice) negotiated by another faction.

Those who have a "kill them all and let Allah sort them out" opinion possess such a barbaric attitude that it is not even worth the time and effort to debate with them.

It is not enough to survive. One should be worthy of survival.

Posted by: SeaTigr | October 26, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

And while he ponders his decision, more American soldiers are dying. He needs to make up his mind, either help the troops or bring them home. With Obama as commander in chief, who needs enemies? God bless our troops.

Posted by: ksrv517 | October 26, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

"Obama said that U.S. troops deserve a clear strategy".

Yes, that is right, they deserve a clear strategy.

Problem is they need one now, not one year from now. And if the strategy is "designed by committee", then it will be a year or two from now.

With all these "experts" studying how the Bush administration went wrong, I'm shocked that no solution has been proposed by now.

Posted by: recharged95 | October 26, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

14 more US soldiers killed. All Hail the Ditherer In Chief. The stench of incompetence hanging over the White House has triggered an EPA investigation.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | October 26, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Obama is unqualified to the President since he'll use any excuse not to protect the soldiers in Afghanistan. Shameful, just shameful.

Posted by: 45upnorth | October 26, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

How sad. Obama will find any excuse in the book. He's unqualified to be President and he's proven it with his stand on not protecting American troops. Shameful.

Posted by: 45upnorth | October 26, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

It's been over 2 months Messiah. It's time to put your "BIG BOY" britches on Obama!

By the way, what exactly libs was Barack Hussein Obama's qualifications to be POTUS?

Barack Hussin Obama..D'oh..D'oh..D'oh!

Posted by: cschotta1 | October 26, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

No "hurried decision" on Afghanistan but he's asking Congress to throw together health care overhaul faster than anyone can read it? What kind of credibility do we have if we refuse to work with the Afghans unless someone we like wins the election? He knows in his gut that it is wrong to abandon the Afghans (again) so that the Taliban will take control (again) and provide safe haven for Al-Qaida (again). It looks suspiciously like President Obama is waiting until after the elections--the US elections--to decide. Get the money and votes for your party from the likes of, THEN decide. I hope he will do the right thing regardless.

Posted by: sam38 | October 26, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"He will decide tomorrow after golf....or maybe next week after golf....what is a community organizer to do? Play golf....

Posted by: doggit1 | October 26, 2009 5:15 PM"
The stabilization of Afghanistan is vitally important to this mission. A hurried decision could effect the current run-off election in a negative way.
It would be absolutely foolish to rush in to a decision before knowing if we have a credible partner in Afghanistan.

doggit1: I suggest you read a little more and watch a little less TV.

Posted by: JRM2 | October 26, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

He will decide tomorrow after golf....or maybe next week after golf....what is a community organizer to do? Play golf....

Posted by: doggit1 | October 26, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

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