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Huckabee commuted sentence of suspect in Washington police slayings

By Garance Franke-Ruta
Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee started Sunday morning by dialing back expectations about his political future, but by evening, it was his past that was at issue when the Seattle Times broke news that the suspect in the slaying of four police officers in a Seattle suburb was a former Arkansas resident who had had his sentence commuted by Huckabee and who was wanted on an outstanding Arkansas warrant.

In response to the revelations, Huckabee released a statement seeking to cast some of the responsibility onto the parole board that freed the man, 37-year-old Maurice Clemmons, and the criminal justice system that repeatedly failed to properly handle the convicted felon. Said Huckabee:

The senseless and savage execution of police officers in Washington State has saddened the nation, and early reports indicate that a person of interest is a repeat offender who once lived in Arkansas and was wanted on outstanding warrants here and Washington State. The murder of any individual is profound tragedy, but the murder of a police officer is the worst of all murders in that it is an assault on every citizen and the laws we live within.

Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible tragedy, it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State. He was recommended for and received a commutation of his original sentence from 1990, making him parole eligible and was paroled by the parole board once they determined he met the conditions at that time. He was arrested later for parole violation and taken back to prison to serve his full term, but prosecutors dropped the charges that would have held him. It appears that he has continued to have a string of criminal and psychotic behavior but was not kept incarcerated by either state. This is a horrible and tragic event and if found and convicted the offender should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Our thoughts and prayers are and should be with the families of those honorable, brave, and heroic police officers.

The revelation marks the second time Huckabee's clemency decisions have become an issue. During the 2007-2008 campaign, the story of his 1999 grant of clemency to convicted rapist Wayne Dumond, who went on to rape again, was widely reported.

According to the Seattle Times, Clemmons had a "long history of trouble in Arkansas":

News accounts out of Arkansas offer a confusing -- and, at times, conflicting -- description of Clemmons' criminal history and prison time.

In 1990, Clemmons, then 18, was sentenced in Arkansas to 60 years in prison for burglary and theft of property, according to a news account in Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. Newspaper stories describe a series of disturbing incidents involving Clemmons while he was being tried in Arkansas on various charges.

During one trial, Clemmons was shackled in leg irons and seated next to a uniformed officer. The presiding judge ordered the extra security because he felt Clemmons had threatened him, court records show.

Another time, Clemmons hid a hinge in his sock, and was accused of intending to use it as a weapon. Yet another time, Clemmons took a lock from a holding cell, and threw it toward the bailiff. He missed and instead hit Clemmons' mother, who had come to bring him street clothes, according to records and published reports.

On another occasion, Clemmons had reached for a guard's pistol during transport to the courtroom.

When Clemmons received the 60-year sentence, he was already serving 48 years on five felony convictions and facing up to 95 more years on charges of robbery, theft of property and possessing a handgun on school property. Records from Clemmons' sentencing described him as 5-foot-7 and 108 pounds. The crimes were committed when he was 17.

Clemmons served 11 years before being released.

News accounts say Huckabee commuted Clemmons' sentence, citing Clemmons' young age at the time the crimes were committed.

But Clemmons remained on parole -- and soon after landed in trouble again. In March 2001, he was accused of violating his parole by committing aggravated robbery and theft, according to a story in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.

He was returned to prison on a parole violation. But in what appears to have been a mistake, Clemmons was not actually served with the arrest warrants until leaving prison three years later. As a result, Clemmons' attorney argued that the charges should be dismissed because too much time had passed. Prosecutors dropped the charges.

By Web Politics Editor  |  November 30, 2009; 10:50 AM ET
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If the victims had only been armed...etc, etc.

Posted by: leifrakur2 | November 30, 2009 11:01 PM
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Well the Seattle police got him this morning, they shot and killed him. No pardon there. However, as to your comment, the gunshot wound that he sustained in the orginal shooting of the police officers in Lakewood, would have resulted in his death. He apparently was shot in the stomach and was bleeding heavily. All this according to the Seattle Medical examiner. No one says that being armed will prevent you from being shot or killed, but hopefully as in this case, the killer got what he deserved.

Posted by: RedRat | December 1, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

If we didn't hand out ridiculous sentences, we would not have a need for governors to commute. I mean, handing a minor two 95 year sentences like he killed Mother Therese or something. C'mon.

Not to say this perp wasn't demon seed, but I have a strong feeling that years in overly harsh prison standards made him what he is today.

Posted by: RealTexan1 | November 30, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

If the victims had only been armed...etc, etc.

Posted by: leifrakur2 | November 30, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

It looks as though a few want to blame Huckabee for this murderous mess. However, it was reported earlier that this guy was released on bond right there in Washington pending charges that included raping a child. Why is that being played down? I tell you one thing, if four cops were killed every time a child in this country were molested or raped, there’d be no such thing as a pedophile!
Huckabee is stupid yes, but he's not the only one to blame here.

Posted by: shadowace99 | November 30, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

caebling, the guy that huckabee released wasn't a convicted murderer. and i bet if you look , more than murderer willie horton was released. your man mike signed a law letting lifers get out of jail. try to keep up. your gangbanger president must be keeping your attention. its a hoot trying to figure what he'll do next isn't lib?

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | November 30, 2009 8:29 PM | Report abuse

See, the problem is, conservatives just didn't pray hard enough last time. Next time they should nominate Sarah Palin or Glen Beck, and then we'll all pray really really hard.

Gun nuts should note that being heavily armed did not save these unfortunate police. What part of "well regulated" do gun nuts not understand? Strong gun and ammunition controls would have kept this evil criminal unarmed and non-lethal.

Posted by: raschumacher | November 30, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

As I understand it, much of the opposition to Huckabee's decision came from women and girls claiming to have been raped and/or assaulted by Clemmons. Abuse of women is generally not considered that serious a crime by republicans and often not by christians either. Huckabee is both a republican and a christian and apparently, both of these facts played part in his decision.

Posted by: WITCHBAND | November 30, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey, hey, hey, We're WAY BEYOND the point here folks! 4 people have died. Let's all take a deep breathe and honor their lives. Let's think of ways to ensure this won't happen again and write a letter to our congressmen to get some laws changed. Let's not snipe at one another.

And, finally, let's all hope and pray that kadius 1964 get the help that he needs...

Posted by: linda35 | November 30, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

This article contains an inaccuracy. After his release from prison, rightwing darling Wayne Dumond actually went on to murder two women.

Posted by: katn1084 | November 30, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so THAT'S what happened to that little kid in the 1st grade who did nothing but eat paste!

"Posted by: kadius1964

TO ALL,

THINK ON THIS, WHEN YOU TUCK YOUR KIDS IN BED, THIS IDIOT THAT MURDERED THE FOUR GOOD COPS WAS A LIBERAL, VOTED FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, AND WAS LET OUT ON BAIL BY A LIBERAL JUDGE IN A LIBERAL STATE.

OVER 90% OF PRISONERS ARE LIBERALS, THEREFORE MOST CHILD RAPIST ARE LIBERALS, MOST MURDERERS ARE LIBERALS, MOST IDIOTS ARE LIBERALS.

IN TEN YEARS THE LIBERALS WILL WANT THESE SICK IDIOTS GIVEN A NEW START BECAUSE IT IS THEIR LIFESTYLE, NOT BY CHOICE BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE BORN THIS WAY.

LIBERALS ARE THE SICK PITS OF SOCIETY AND WE ALL WOULD BE BETTER OFF SHIPPING THEM AND THEIR CRIMINAL MINDED BUSINESS TO FRANCE WHERE YOU CANT SPANK A PLASTIC DOLL.

IDIOT LIBERALS LEAVE, AND NOT TOO SLOWLY."

Posted by: gasmonkey | November 30, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Guns and Christians
VERY dangerous...

Posted by: kase | November 30, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Huckleberry had no chance of being President anyway...at least now maybe he'll fade away.
Like the other Jesus freak who shot the cops.
Let's hope so...

Posted by: kase | November 30, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Well this is the strongest argument yet for the death penalty. At least with the death penalty, good old Ted Bundy would not be commuted so he could commit his crimes again. We must realize that there are truly bad people out there, who would slit your throat for a dime.

So in this case you get a soft-hearted (or soft headed) governor to commute a 95 year sentence. Great, Mike, really great. Since this happened in my neck of the woods, I have to live with your little "kindly Christian" gesture. There are 4 families that will, I am sure, thank you.

Posted by: RedRat | November 30, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"JBOWEN, WILLIE HORTON? DUKAKIS RELEASED FREAKING MURDERS ONTO THE STREET WHILE HE WAS GOVERNOR. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ARSE. FREAKING LIBS MAKE ME SICK."

Uh, I think that was his point.... Dukakis was "willie hortoned" for releasing a murder while governor. Huckaby did the same; hence the reference. Try to keep up.....

Posted by: caebling | November 30, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Huckleberry had no chance of being President anyway...at least now maybe he'll fade away.
Let's hope so...

Posted by: kase | November 30, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

this was a tragedy caused by people in our justice system. it needs to be fixed and the best way is to stop electing them!

Posted by: willyr1 | November 30, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

JBOWEN, WILLIE HORTON? DUKAKIS RELEASED FREAKING MURDERS ONTO THE STREET WHILE HE WAS GOVERNOR. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ARSE. FREAKING LIBS MAKE ME SICK.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | November 30, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Oooh, ouch, Kaduis... that hurt. Especially the CAPITAL SHOUTING. Now I see the error in my ways. (Oh, and can you please say "idiot" a few more times... not sure I get your point yet.)

Posted by: slg321 | November 30, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

"THINK ON THIS, WHEN YOU TUCK YOUR KIDS IN BED, THIS IDIOT THAT MURDERED THE FOUR GOOD COPS WAS A LIBERAL, VOTED FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, AND WAS LET OUT ON BAIL BY A LIBERAL JUDGE IN A LIBERAL STATE."

This is perhaps the most ignorant statement I've ever read on this forum. This murderer was released time and time again by a justice system that is broken. Had Huckaby not commuted his original 108 year sentence he would still be in jail in AR. This was a massive, multi-state failure and to pin it on any single individual is simplistic at best. Go back to PoxNews and Limpballs where the other idiots hang out.

Posted by: caebling | November 30, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

In a article about Huckabee commuted the sentence of this killer, kadius1964, has decided that it's all the "libruls" fault. You must be psychic to know that this killer voted for Obama and that he is a liberal. You also know that all the people how let him out were liberals (except Huckabee, of course) and you know the party affiliations of 90% of the people in prison.

You say all this nonsense then have the nerve to call someone else an idiot. You, sir, are pathetic and if you are so unhappy with the people in this country who don't think like you then why don't you leave. I'm sure your narrow minded views would be accepted somewhere.

Posted by: wmwilliams14 | November 30, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

SICK321

REPOST, COPY AND PAST, WOW YOU ARE SO ORIGINAL, IDIOT

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

THE SAD FACT IS MOST LIBERALS COULD NOT FIGHT THEIR WAY OUT OF A WET PAPER SACK.

NO FIGHT NO ABILITY BUT TO BLAME, NO MY FAULT I TRIED TO BAN GUNS.

GUESS WHAT IDIOT LIBERALS, MS, MANSON ONCE SAID CHARLES WAS A GOOD LITTLE BOY, YOU IDIOTS WOULD HAVE LET HIM OFF.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

This site is further proof that comment boards on newspaper websites serve no useful purpose, and in fact help set back any hope of resurrecting a respectful dialogue about anything important.

Posted by: mcclure03 | November 30, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

slug321, you're a typical ignorant racist that doesn't like being confronted with the truth.

Obama's disrespect set off a wave of violence against cops.

What Obama did needs to be seriously confronted to stop further attacks.

Get real!

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Hey, all... Bob's just another Righty Radical who's desparate to blame all of society's problems on Obama. He thrives on the attention he gets here, loves the name-calling, and this is his 15 minutes. Leave him alone, ignore him, and - like all whiners - he'll shut up and go spew his venom elsewhere.

Posted by: slg321 | November 30, 2009 5:40 PM |

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

SICK321

THE 15 MINUTES THINGS IS AS OLD AS DIRT, IDIOT.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

SICK321, THE ART OF READING IS GETTING THE POINT IDIOT

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

What if every nut case and wack job in this country did not have easy access to deadly weapons and was forced to use a knife to carry out their attempt at mayhem? What would have been the outcome in Seattle yesterday? Wouldn't four hard-working police officers be going home to their loved ones?

What if the NRA backed off attacking any real reform that would enable substantive back ground checks that keep guns away from psychos? How many people would be with us today? What is the real cost of no gun control in this country?

I heard some moron cabbie being interviewed about this and he said if everyone had a gun this maddness would never have happened. How does one's twisted mind draw that conclusion especially since four well armed and trained officers died where they sat?

Posted by: HopingForABetterWorld | November 30, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

TO ALL,

THINK ON THIS, WHEN YOU TUCK YOUR KIDS IN BED, THIS IDIOT THAT MURDERED THE FOUR GOOD COPS WAS A LIBERAL, VOTED FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, AND WAS LET OUT ON BAIL BY A LIBERAL JUDGE IN A LIBERAL STATE.

OVER 90% OF PRISONERS ARE LIBERALS, THEREFORE MOST CHILD RAPIST ARE LIBERALS, MOST MURDERERS ARE LIBERALS, MOST IDIOTS ARE LIBERALS.

IN TEN YEARS THE LIBERALS WILL WANT THESE SICK IDIOTS GIVEN A NEW START BECAUSE IT IS THEIR LIFESTYLE, NOT BY CHOICE BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE BORN THIS WAY.

LIBERALS ARE THE SICK PITS OF SOCIETY AND WE ALL WOULD BE BETTER OFF SHIPPING THEM AND THEIR CRIMINAL MINDED BUSINESS TO FRANCE WHERE YOU CANT SPANK A PLASTIC DOLL.

IDIOT LIBERALS LEAVE, AND NOT TOO SLOWLY.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

WELL! WELL! WELL! One piece of S??? taking care of another piece of S???. Now look what happened because of one stupid "DO GOODER".

Posted by: SWAMPYPD | November 30, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Ah, Kadius... you prove my point. Can you say "liberal idiot" a few more times? I just love it when people who can't spell or punctuate a sentence rant about idiots. Flame on, Kadius... you're 15 minutes will soon be over, too.

Posted by: slg321 | November 30, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I just read the commutation documents, and surprise, Clemmons swore up and down that he had "found god." Guess god played a joke on Huckabee . . . but nobody's laughing.

By the way, I'm from Tacoma and Clemmons was let out of jail because he posted bail. No big conspiracy there: most people accused of crimes, not convicted, get bail and are released if they can come up with the percentage a bail bondsman requires.

Posted by: jvlem | November 30, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

linda35, Obama is responsible for what he did to disrespect cops. His actions are directly linked to the death of the four cops. The murder of the four cops was an act of disrespect.

You believe anyone who watches Fox News is narrow-minded. That's a narrow-minded assumption in itself. You don't know what news channels I watch.

Like wmwilliams14 you also don't think about what you're thinking. Typical of unread people.


Bob59 - Obviously, you are one of those people who will blame Obama for anything and everything.... and you really ought to get over it. He's our president and (just like we put up with Bush) you have to accept that. A crazed gunman shot 4 cops and it's the gunman's fault - no one else's... yes, he shouldn't have been out of prison, but no one could foresee that he'd do this, so no one else is responsible for his actions. Remember, we are all responsible for our OWN actions. Quit blaming the president for this. Go back and watch Fox if you want your narrow-mindedness reinforced, but don't try to convince those of us with a brain that your viewpoint is correct.

Posted by: linda35 | November 30, 2009 5:34 PM

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey, fair's fair.

Those trying to pin it on Huckabee learned how to do that from good old Republicans.

And it makes as much sense now as it did then. Make of that what you will.

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 30, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

edbyronadams, is exactly right. Meanwhile, those of us out here in Washington State are contending with a maniac who is still on the loose. This isn't over for those of us living it out in real time.
Four of our cops have been murdered, the guy is still out there somewhere, god only knows where he is, at this very moment, maybe terrorizing innocent citizens, and I don't exactly feel like debating the politics of how this came to pass in the first place.
All I know is that every single police person and citizen is, right now, involved in tracking this guy down. This isn't a television show, folks.

Posted by: cms1 | November 30, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

sick321, u r just as bad, idiot liberal, your party is the kind that rape, murder and molest, get this idiot liberal, over 90% of all prisoners, over 90% idiot liberal are...you guessed it liberals.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

dcharles, get a life, the article was trying to pin the blame on "Huc". that is also sick, but not as sick as the idiot liberals in Washington State let off for rape. Liberals are the ones who let him off to kill four good cops, liberal idiots.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey, all... Bob's just another Righty Radical who's desparate to blame all of society's problems on Obama. He thrives on the attention he gets here, loves the name-calling, and this is his 15 minutes. Leave him alone, ignore him, and - like all whiners - he'll shut up and go spew his venom elsewhere.

Posted by: slg321 | November 30, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

sage,

sad but when people do not read, as most liberals can not...by the remarks on this article it tends to tick me off.

as for geoidiot, yes that my idiot friend is a threat you made...in writing, u r an idiot liberal.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Come on People-
Stop all of this. 4 police officers are dead. It has very little to do with Huckabee or Obama. The article details how he fell through the cracks in the legal system and we all paid the price.
Let's get angry about the criminal justice system, about untreated psychotics who roam the streets, about jail overcrowding (which makes it necessary to release early). Plenty of common ground here.

Posted by: dcharles1 | November 30, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

If the government had to ante up a few million to the real victims or their families every time this happened, it would stop happening.

Posted by: avannavon | November 30, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Bob59 - Obviously, you are one of those people who will blame Obama for anything and everything.... and you really ought to get over it. He's our president and (just like we put up with Bush) you have to accept that. A crazed gunman shot 4 cops and it's the gunman's fault - no one else's... yes, he shouldn't have been out of prison, but no one could foresee that he'd do this, so no one else is responsible for his actions. Remember, we are all responsible for our OWN actions. Quit blaming the president for this. Go back and watch Fox if you want your narrow-mindedness reinforced, but don't try to convince those of us with a brain that your viewpoint is correct.

Posted by: linda35 | November 30, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Wow, seldom have I seen such a low level of discourse on any WaPo blog. Step up your game, y'all. Seriously.

I'm no fan of Huckabee, but pinning this on him seems a stretch. A lot of failures went into to making this happen. The article says the shooter was sentenced to 60 years on top of another 48 at age 18 for what were listed as repeated but non-violent crimes (based on the article--maybe he was violent, but it says he wasn't.) Then a 108 lb. 18-year-old was stuck in a men's prison. Gee, wonder how THAT went for him. The original decision by the parole board or Huckabee or whomever to grant clemency seems, based on what is in this article, to have been an easily defensible decision that the governor is unfortunately distancing himself from. The result may well be that many young people locked up for long sentences can kiss any chance for parole goodbye now that boards and politicians are running scared. Same reason Bill Clinton allowed the execution of a mentally retarded inmate.

Posted by: SageThrasher | November 30, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

goexplode, I hope the FBI investigates your death threat. What you wrote is a felony...up to 15 years in prison.

And, the FBI does monitor the boards.

Have a nice day.

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Death threat? Like Obama threatened these cops? say what?

You have a nice day too.

Posted by: goexplode | November 30, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

I will pose the same question to you as I did to the Seattle Times. Why, with this mans history of crime in arkansas, and the fact he was charged with eight felonies in Washington State was this man allowed out of jail?

Posted by: robertwf | November 30, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

bob59, I said I noticed how YOU didn't mention Huckabee. Since the entire article is about Huckabee, I found it odd that you didn't mention him at all.

I don't think you should call anyone ignorant since you obviously have not learned to read with comprehension. Now, as much as I've had fun going back and forth with you. Trying to talk with you is like trying to have a conversation with a dining room table since you are just plain nuts.

Posted by: wmwilliams14 | November 30, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Channah, what kind of liberal name is that, idiot name, idiot comment, he was released from Washington State, idiot liberal, you can not read, idiot liberal.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

RE: Obama
Bob, I think you're stupid and have no respect for you. Does that put your life in danger? I doubt it, but kind of hope so.

Posted by: goexplode | November 30, 2009 5:17 PM
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goexplode, I hope the FBI investigates your death threat. What you wrote is a felony...up to 15 years in prison.

And, the FBI does monitor the boards.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

This has more to do with Obama.

Obama made a comment that some cops acted stupidly. That placed a burden of incompetence and stupidity on ALL cops. AND, in the minds of 80% of criminals justifies any violence they take against cops.

It has nothing to do with a criminal being recommended for release by a parole board over a decade ago, or the governor who went along with the recommendation.

Obama should profusely apologize to cops for his statement, and make clear he supports their actions against his friend and all other criminals.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 4:01 PM
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"...I don't think either president had anything to do with these senseless killings. Frankly, I don't even blame Huckabee.

I did notice how you don't mention Huckabee at all in your posts but it doesn't surprise me that you could omit the obvious when trying to make some ridiculous conclusion."
Posted by: wmwilliams14 | November 30, 2009 5:13 PM
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wmwilliams14, you're abusing reader's intelligence. You wrote, "Frankly, I don't even blame Huckabee."

You blame Governor Huckabee in your NEXT sentence, "I did notice how you don't mention Huckabee at all in your posts but it doesn't surprise me that you could omit the OBVIOUS when trying to make some ridiculous conclusion."

OMG!!! Such IGNORANCE!!!

Obama's disrespect for cops is entirely to blame for increased violence against cops.

Man up!

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

What did I tell you, friends? Huckabee and Palin have about the same mentality.

Posted by: Channah | November 30, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

The Huckster has his own Willie Horton now. I wonder how his opponents in the republican party will use that little tidbit of information. Maybe by then he will find a way to put the blame on Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, or President Obama.

Posted by: jbowen431 | November 30, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

This was not Obama's fault, that is nuts, like saying a liberal has a brain and then would know what to do with it if one did...lol

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

RE: Obama
Bob, I think you're stupid and have no respect for you. Does that put your life in danger? I doubt it, but kind of hope so.

Posted by: goexplode | November 30, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

idiots like liberals can not read full articles...like the Declaration of Independence, way to complicated. They read the headline and say "wow that governor let him go", read idiot liberals, read the whole story, idiot liberals.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama IS to blame for what happened. Passing the buck to an event that happened over a decade ago is lame.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse
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I would try to respond to your comment about "passing the buck to an event that happened a decade ago" but I have no idea what you are talking about.

Either way, it's pretty pathetic that you are taking this tragedy and trying to tie it to President Obama. You can play six degrees of separation all you want but it just doesn't add up.

You did miss the point of my post. I was comparing how crazy it is of you to blame the president for this crazy man killing cops just as if I would blame President Bush for the Fort Hood tragedy. I don't think either president had anything to do with these senseless killings. Frankly, I don't even blame Huckabee.

I did notice how you don't mention Huckabee at all in your posts but it doesn't surprise me that you could omit the obvious when trying to make some ridiculous conclusion.

Posted by: wmwilliams14 | November 30, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

willseattle (or from the rape state)
and simple minded (or little mind)

Washington let the crrep go, a liberal judge in Washington state, full of idiot liberals

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

how may media and liberal brains can u fit in a baby jar...al of them, idiot liberals.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"The GOP, the party of personal responsibility. Yet whenever anything happens, it is someone else's fault.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | November 30, 2009 4:31 PM"

Spot on. And heckuva job, Huckabee.

Posted by: simpleton1 | November 30, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Figures it was a Talibangelist Governor Huckabee that set him free and made sure he got his gun back.

And these are the same people that want to have concealed weapons in Seattle's parks and community centers where our kids are. So they can kill our kids and our cops with impunity.

Posted by: WillSeattle | November 30, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee meet Willie Horton

Posted by: goexplode | November 30, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

gripper, think about it, yes it is all wrong, put PC aside, most men can still defend themselves better than children or most women (again for the idiot liberals put PC aside).

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

This has more to do with Obama.

Obama made a comment that some cops acted stupidly. That placed a burden of incompetence and stupidity on ALL cops. AND, in the minds of 80% of criminals justifies any violence they take against cops.

It has nothing to do with a criminal being recommended for release by a parole board over a decade ago, or the governor who went along with the recommendation.

Obama should profusely apologize to cops for his statement, and make clear he supports their actions against his friend and all other criminals.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 4:01 PM
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bob59, please start taking your meds again. You MUST be off of them because it's the only rational excuse for posting something so stupid. If a comet hit the earth, you wing-nuts would blame Obama - COMET HITS EARTH WHILE OBAMA STANDS BY DOING NOTHING!

In the future, before picking up your crayon and construction paper to wrestle out a few incoherent sentences to inflict on the rest of us, have a sane person review them.

Now get back to your job making slurpees at 7-11 and leave the rest of the rational world alone. Maybe you should go over to the Dousche Limpbag website where he and his "dildo-heads" think that inane comments like yours are the height of logical thinking.

Posted by: xconservative | November 30, 2009 4:46 PM
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xconservative, you're just another stupid, name calling liberal trying to cover up for the Empty Suit.

Obama endangered the lives of every cop in the United States when he disrespected the Harvard cops. Obama saying they "acted stupidly" showed criminals the highest office in the United States thought all cops are stupid.

The cold-blooded murder of four cops is on Obama's head.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

slim,

u 2 another idiot, read who released this jerk, Washington State, u r an idiot liberal, read idiot, read.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

NO, the murder of ANYONE is the worst of all crimes, with no exception.

Posted by: gripper | November 30, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

tony,

you are an idiot too. willie horton was given the key by a presidential runner, idiot, washington gave the key on this on idiot liberal.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I always felt the trashing of Massachusetts governor and former Presidential candidate, Mike Dukakis would come back and bite someone in the butt. It now seems it's one of the self-righteous with a hole in the pants. Karma is a B*--right conservatives?

Posted by: slim2 | November 30, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

emag,

i agree and second is a women, and both should be dealt with much more harsly.

Murder is sick, rape is sick and molesters are sick, all should die and die fast.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Time to dust off that "Willie Horton" ad I guess?

Wouldn't you say turnabout is fair play?

-----------------Oh, and one more thing------

Here, let me do it for you, neo-con wingnuts:

"ACORN."

Can't have a political discussion without mentioning "ACORN" at least once. Even if it's irrelevant...

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | November 30, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

The Willie Horton is on the other foot now! How does it feel to be wearing that shoe, Hucksterbee???? Unlike Dukakis, you actively intervened to let this cop killer back on the streets. Yeah, you can see the campaign ads now, can't you?

Posted by: Bob22003 | November 30, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Quote.."The murder of any individual is profound tragedy, but the murder of a police officer is the worst of all murders...."/quote

I disagree. The murder of a child is far more despicable.

Posted by: emag | November 30, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"Huckabee commuted sentence"

Wow, not only do we have the media Monday morning quarterbacks we have the idiots liberal comment makers.

He was released in Washington, the nut state for rape, you people are so liberally blind it is sick. Washington let him go. This is what the liberals want, everyone to blame anyone but themselves, you are sick.

Posted by: kadius1964 | November 30, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Just think President Huckabee would have let all the mass murders out because they lied and said they found God and Jesus. I worked in the Criminal Justice Field and that's the biggest con and Huck is a sucker and a fool. This is what happens who people use God's name for sin, greed and evil as Huck just lied. That ad with the floating cross was one for the books. I look forward to the other GOP who have used God's Name in vain and they to want see it coming.

Posted by: qqbDEyZW | November 30, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

This has more to do with Obama.

Posted by: bob59
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bob59, please start taking your meds again. You MUST be off of them because it's the only rational excuse for posting something so stupid. If a comet hit the earth, you wing-nuts would blame Obama - COMET HITS EARTH WHILE OBAMA STANDS BY DOING NOTHING!

In the future, before picking up your crayon and construction paper to wrestle out a few incoherent sentences to inflict on the rest of us, have a sane person review them.

Now get back to your job making slurpees at 7-11 and leave the rest of the rational world alone. Maybe you should go over to the Dousche Limpbag website where he and his "dildo-heads" think that inane comments like yours are the height of logical thinking.

Posted by: xconservative | November 30, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse


This has more to do with Obama.

Obama made a comment that some cops acted stupidly. That placed a burden of incompetence and stupidity on ALL cops. AND, in the minds of 80% of criminals justifies any violence they take against cops.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 4:01 PM
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Bob59, this has got to be the most stupid statement I've read in a long time. I was wondering if some idiot would try and put this on President Obama.

So a criminal kills four cops and you have the nerve to say and tie it to the president. Well, I guess the Fort Hood massacre could be linked to President Bush with that kind of backwards logic.

This is a tragedy and has nothing to do with the President. I know you hate President Obama but really get a grip and take your meds because you are completely off your rocker.

Posted by: wmwilliams14 | November 30, 2009 4:37 PM

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wmwilliams14 you are ignorant. When Obama as president of the United States likens cops to stupid people respect is lost for cops among criminals, not law abiding citizens.

Cops losing respect means they are subject to attack, as happened in Washington yesterday.

For you to compare a Muslim terrorist shouting "Allah Akbar" to a clear criminal attack on four cops is sheer stupidity.

Obama IS to blame for what happened. Passing the buck to an event that happened over a decade ago is lame.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee is as much at fault as all the other cowards that allowed this animal to return to society. The ultimate blame goes to political correctness, the ACLU and all the Van Jones types.

Posted by: fury60 | November 30, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This has more to do with Obama.

Obama made a comment that some cops acted stupidly. That placed a burden of incompetence and stupidity on ALL cops. AND, in the minds of 80% of criminals justifies any violence they take against cops.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 4:01 PM
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Bob59, this has got to be the most stupid statement I've read in a long time. I was wondering if some idiot would try and put this on President Obama.

So a criminal kills four cops and you have the nerve to say and tie it to the president. Well, I guess the Fort Hood massacre could be linked to President Bush with that kind of backwards logic.

This is a tragedy and has nothing to do with the President. I know you hate President Obama but really get a grip and take your meds because you are completely off your rocker.

Posted by: wmwilliams14 | November 30, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

It seems obvious now that it was a mistake to release this prisoner. But to the extent that there’s fault, there are lots of people and agencies who should share in this responsibility. I hope and expect that all the agencies and individuals involved will study this case to see where their decision-making can be improved.
We must be very careful, though, to not judge past actions on what we know today. It seems obvious that no person intentionally releases a person he or she believes to be a threat to society. I think, absent evidence to the contrary, that we should consider that individuals acted in a way they thought at the time and given the data available at the time, was in everyone’s best interest. That things went terribly wrong means that we must look at our decisions, information, and processes to see what improvements must be made.
The United States already incarcerates many, many more people than other nation and it’s also clear that our policy of resorting to incarceration does not buy us greater security. It’s fairly easy to make the argument our abnormally high incarceration rates are counter-productive, that by incarcerating so many people, rather than utilizing more effective measures, we actually make our society more dangerous. The data certainly doesn’t support the contention that locking people up the way we do lowers crime rates or recidivism or better prepares offenders to reenter society as productive citizens.
A back-lash from this incident, as tragic as it is, can easily lead to forcing politicians to become more aggressive in imposing jail sentences where there are better, more effective alternatives.
It’s possible to believe this and still be horrified at the tragedy that occurred in Washington State. It’s simply wrong to say that supporting effective punishment and consequences means favoring crime or indicates a lack of caring for victims. Rather, it is because I believe there is a better way to deal with criminal behavior than simply longer and longer sentences and that we can reduce crime by focusing more on rehabilitation, where it will be effective, and on a more effective reentry into society of offenders. When we define “getting tough” on crime as offering only harsher sentencing, we limit our options for more effective criminal reform.

Posted by: lfdow1 | November 30, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Another great Huckabee decision. Way to go dude. Care to help Bin Laden next?

Posted by: OldTimeRider | November 30, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The GOP, the party of personal responsibility. Yet whenever anything happens, it is someone else's fault.

Posted by: AlanGoldberg54 | November 30, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Wow, what a standup Christian Gov Hucakabee shows himself to be. He's not out there trying to blame everyone and everything for something he did. Oh wait, now that read his statement I guess he is.

Posted by: AHappyWarrior | November 30, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Mike's "Willie Horton".

Posted by: JTFLORIDA | November 30, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

What you have here is the difference between a minister and a governor.

A minister will (or generally should) assume the best of a person, and will act accordingly.

A governor will (or generally should) look at the realities of the situation and act accordingly.

Huckabee was a little too much minister and a little too little governor.

Posted by: mrkwong | November 30, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Quick someone call 911, b/c I see a political career in flames.....

Posted by: -CMAC- | November 30, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The unfortunate thing for Huck is that he tried to blame others instead of "manning up" like a good Conservative and taking responsibility himself.
He COULD have said that this was simply a horrible, tragic mistake in judgment that he wishes to God he hadn't made. But, nooooo, he chose to blame everyone else.
He doesn't really have a very good sense of what "sells" politically.
Assuming responsibility for one's mistakes is such a rare thing, such an anomaly these days, that it doesn't even occur to most politicians to do such a thing.
But, because it IS so rare, it would have "sold" in a minute.

Posted by: cms1 | November 30, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

This has more to do with Obama.

Obama made a comment that some cops acted stupidly. That placed a burden of incompetence and stupidity on ALL cops. AND, in the minds of 80% of criminals justifies any violence they take against cops.

It has nothing to do with a criminal being recommended for release by a parole board over a decade ago, or the governor who went along with the recommendation.

Obama should profusely apologize to cops for his statement, and make clear he supports their actions against his friend and all other criminals.

Posted by: bob59 | November 30, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

UH OH!

Looks like Huckabee's political career just drew a "half the distance to the goal" penalty.

The good news for Mike is, since he was only on the one yard line, he only lost half a yard.

Posted by: trenda | November 30, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

We need more guns. This would not have happened had those police officers been able to defend themsel.......
Uh..................
Wait a minute........................

Posted by: TOMHERE | November 30, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

You don't pardon VIOLENT criminals. EVER. Huckabee's an idiot and I'm sure there are more like him.

Posted by: MILWI | November 30, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

OK leftists who always accuse the right of "NO MERCY" especially to Bush, you have no room to speak...

Posted by: sophic | November 30, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Well finally after a year of one colossal embarrassment after another by Obozzo and his gaggle of tax cheating minions the left--turds and I agree on something; there is no excuse for ever releasing this type of scum bag POS into society even if his left leaning atty and good gooder parole board members say he's ready.

Huckabee was an idiot and should pay the price. Not pantywaisted excuses like Rangel. No years of protracted court proceedings like Jefferson. No elections to even higher office like Hastings and Barry which you lib--turd morons are famous for. Get his dumbazzz out of politics forever; he is finished!!!

Posted by: Bcamp55 | November 30, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

"Interesting how the article states Huckabee comuuted his sentence in the headlines, but truth be told, he was on the loose because of our judicial system."

Indeed. I suggest readers here google the name "Lily Burk" and you can see the results of bureaucratic incompetence and indulgence of criminals.


Posted by: GRILLADES | November 30, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I would strongly encourage Huckabee to run for POTUS in 2012.

Posted by: James10 | November 30, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

my late friend, and arch political opponent, is laughing in his grave now. huckabee was quick to join in the chorus condemning dukakis for willie horton-now he finds someone else to blame for putting 2 recidivists out of the street who offended yet again!! i wonder if any republicans will apologize to dukakis, you betcha.

Posted by: george32 | November 30, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

sure glad it was not a Democrat that paroled this guy. If he was incarcerated in Arkansas at 17, he was tortured and what he did was predictable.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | November 30, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Notice how Huckabee has wrapped himself in the "blame someone else" cloak of Fox Noise Pundits?

Posted by: lufrank1 | November 30, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

It's always sweet when one of the right wing's cynical ploys to gain power comes back to bite them in the a**.

Despite what Bush Sr. did though the unfortunate fact is that the US incarceration rate is horrifyingly high. Events like this are only going to make every politician play the "tough on crime" card by locking up ever more people and not showing clemency even when it's due.

Posted by: sambam | November 30, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Clearly, Mike Huckabee made a strategic mistake by not resigning halfway through his term as governor to pursue a bookwriting and talk-show career.

Posted by: 1EgoNemo | November 30, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama and Van Jones claim that we should "knock down our prisons and create green jobs" by having these murderers and rapists come over to caulk our windows.

Posted by: fury60 | November 30, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Clemmons would likely be out of custody even without the commutation. Not all states have truth in sentencing - which is why they get abnormal "95 year" sentences. Sometimes, felons only serve 1-2 months per year. He was arrested for a parole violation and sent back to serve his whole term - but prosecutors "dropped charges." For some reason, the media doesn't focus on these prosecutors who remain nameless and faceless, or why charges were dropped - because the media goes for the sensational story - and Huckabee makes this a bigger story that misses the mark, which is why this man was STILL walking the streets when there were plenty of opportunities to lock him back up. Do I detect a pattern - 13 of our finest didn't have to die in Ft. Hood either.

Posted by: amyray | November 30, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Anyone surprised that an elected GOP thug commuted a street thug's lengthy sentence? I am not. Republicans have a knack for pardoning felons and hardened criminals.

Posted by: jabreal00 | November 30, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse


The words of Pulaski County Prosecuting Attorney Larry Jegley "This is the day I've been dreading for a long time" echo across the nation today in the deaths of four of our finest law enforcement officers, murdered near Seattle Washington. This terror should and could have been prevented with strong leadership.

I am disappointed and disgusted when those sworn to uphold the law are shown to be derelict in their duty and fail to protect the people. There was absolutely no rationale for commuting the sentence of Maurcie Clemmons for his criminal behavior and crimes. Sentenced to 60 years in prison on the strong recommendation of prosecutors his sentence was commuted by a sitting governor granting him clemency. Mike Huckabee has called this crime a "horrible tragic event." In my opinion, it was more than a tragic event, it was a horrible ambush and murder of four policemen by someone who should still be confined in an Arkansas prison. Mike Huckabee also indicated that if Clemmons is found to be responsible, It will be "the result of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state". I disagree strongly with Mike, there would have been no incidents in Washington state if the Arkansas governor had not granted clemency to a predator in the first place.

I had dismissed earlier rumors of the Governor's past criminal justice leniencies as mere political jabs from the past. As a result of the deaths of these front line defenders of our freedoms, I am unimpressed with Huckabee's comments. A matter this harmful and serious cannot be spun by an incompetent former public official. Frankly, the Governor failed miserably and as a result families that should be sharing a marvelous Christmas-Holiday season together will now embark on decades of grief. No book, television show, guitar solo, or public relations effort will remove the devastation wrought by this hardened criminal who should have been left imprisoned.

Mike my message to you, "You have failed to follow the most basic guarantee of the constitution, our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You should have been in this instance a protector of the security guaranteed to all Americans through leadership which defends the dispensation of criminal justice. Parole boards, appointed by officials, are most mindful of an executive's preference, the chief executive cannot hide behind their actions espousing non involvement.

I am a Republican with many friends from both parties, I love my country and our people. Your precipitous action has violated much of the nation's trust, you failed to protect the people. Mike, I will not vote for you as a candidate for higher office."

Dr. Phillips

Posted by: ctw46 | November 30, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Somehow it will be Obama's fault.

Posted by: JRM2 | November 30, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Dear bobbob, you are an idiot. I suppose you think the Obama administration is following the constitution. We will be lucky if the Constitution survives another year the way the dems are hacking away at it. November 2010 can't come fast enough.

Posted by: bjandrews23 | November 30, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

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Hacking away at it? You must be outta your Bat-Brain mind. He may have only reversed a small part of Bush's lobotomy, but he's not making it worse. He's basically just like your boy Bush. I'll tell ya one thing - you put those neo-con freaks back in office and you can kiss this country goodbye. The only thing that matters to them is The Military Industrial Complex.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | November 30, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Well, I guess that is it for him. Like he stood a snowbama's chance anyway.

Posted by: JRM2 | November 30, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

@Posted by: bjandrews23: Rather than make unsubstantiated claims, how about you do two things:
1. Give us an example of how the Dems are "hacking" away at the constitution
2. Explain your silence when the Bush administration actually DID hack away at the constitution calling it "just a piece of paper"

Then maybe I'll give you some credibility. Until then you are just another parrot and probably more.

Posted by: JRM2 | November 30, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee is a bible thumping idiot. Anyone that voted for him is also an idiot. The clemency decision cost four officers their lives. Way to go Huckster, Fox deserves you and your ilk.

Posted by: IRemember | November 30, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Dear bobbob, you are an idiot. I suppose you think the Obama administration is following the constitution. We will be lucky if the Constitution survives another year the way the dems are hacking away at it. November 2010 can't come fast enough.

Posted by: bjandrews23 | November 30, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

It was the cynical Republican Bush that chose to use the racially charged attack on Dukakis for releasing Willy Horton as a Campaign issue. All he did was sign what the parole board recommended he sign.

Republicans also loved the "rule of law" argument when the tried to get rid of Bill Clinton but conveniently forgot all about the law when Bush and the Bush Crime Family was destroying the Constitution and the Economy.

What a bunch of discredited hypocrites. It will take a decade to fix the mess they made.

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Didn't a Republican play more of a part in Horton's release? I could've swore I read that in Wiki.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | November 30, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"What kind of country gives a 17-year-old NINETY-FIVE YEARS for a robbery conviction?

Huckabee was absolutely right to commute his sentence after 11 years." Posted by: targusowlkiln

Did you not read the article targus? He was already servig time for 5 felonies when he was sentenced for the robbery. If it was his first offense, he probably would not have gotten any time.

Posted by: bjandrews23 | November 30, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

It was the cynical Republican Bush that chose to use the racially charged attack on Dukakis for releasing Willy Horton as a Campaign issue. All he did was sign what the parole board recommended he sign.

Republicans also loved the "rule of law" argument when the tried to get rid of Bill Clinton but conveniently forgot all about the law when Bush and the Bush Crime Family was destroying the Constitution and the Economy.

What a bunch of discredited hypocrites. It will take a decade to fix the mess they made.

Posted by: thebobbob | November 30, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

The fact is there are too many left and right wingers and moderates who, for some reason, think it is okay to let violent criminals out of prison early so they can prey on society. This case had many snafus, the first was having a parole system that allows violent criminals out early and the worst was sending this piece of crap back to prison for a mere three years after he violated his parole. If I lived in a state that still had parole, I would be demanding my legislators illiminate it. Virginia did it in the 90's and we are safer for it.

Posted by: bjandrews23 | November 30, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Note to murderers and rapists, commit your crimes in a state with a Jesus Freak in charge, claim to have "found Jesus" and you're out free.

Posted by: republican_disaster | November 30, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Showing mercy to convicted criminals is lighting potential sticks of dynamite. Huckabee just had one explode. So did Mike Dukakis.

No governor with aspirations to higher office can forget these lessons. Therefore we will put up with some injustice in sentencing and higher costs for more incarceration.

Unfortunately the public has a visceral emotional response to stories like this. The only way we can evaluate Gov. Huckabee's decision is to look at it in total. How many other clemency cases went bad? Alas, this is likely to go unexamined in the subsequent emotional response.
Posted by: edbyronadams
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Dukakis ran for President and lost. So you'll agree, since you brought up the comparison that Huackabee does not deserve to be treated any differently.

Or is this when the goober hypocrisy takes over?

Posted by: HumanSimpleton | November 30, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

What kind of country gives a 17-year-old NINETY-FIVE YEARS for a robbery conviction?

Huckabee was absolutely right to commute his sentence after 11 years.

Posted by: targusowlkiln | November 30, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Now setting murderers free is something Republicans are good at. Bush even passes laws to free himself.

Posted by: HemiHead66 | November 30, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

If it had been Sarah Palin's decision, she would have put him in a meat grinder and served him for Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: pagebike
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Except that it would have been the wrong person.

Posted by: HumanSimpleton | November 30, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Some GOP apologist wrote:

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Wow some people can't read or what?

Huckabee allowed to him to be eligible for a parole hearing. He didn't free him, he ALLOWED a parole hearing. The Parole board gave him parole, he broke parole, then the Prosecutor let him go without bringing him back to jail.
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Nice try, but remember how Democrats get vilified for lesser "offenses"?

Make your bed, you sleep in it. And you can get in with Huckabee in this one, goober!

Posted by: HumanSimpleton | November 30, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Wow some people can't read or what?

Huckabee allowed to him to be eligible for a parole hearing. He didn't free him, he ALLOWED a parole hearing. The Parole board gave him parole, he broke parole, then the Prosecutor let him go without bringing him back to jail.

Stop reaching people. If someone is a Republican they are always wrong?. News update, Democrats and Republicans can't be trusted, but trying to blame Huckabee for this is a bit of a reach. Stop the haters, they are like a virus that is ruining society.

Posted by: TBOregon | November 30, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

If Huckabee or anybody else in his position (then)actually gave a damn about the Police Officers, they would keep the dangerous felons in prison where they belong. He does bear a LARGE portion of responsibility because he used his power to commute the sentence and anything that happened after is also a direct result of the sentence having been commuted in the 1st place. The other screwups would not have happened because he would not have been out of prison to begin with. So let's be real about this Mike. Why didn't your heart go out to the 1st set of victims and then there would not have been a 2nd set. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: palmettostatesman | November 30, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

when the hell will the retarded Right wingers realize that we live in the "ALL MEDIA ALL ON ALL THE TIME AGE" AND accept the times we live in.
ALL INFORMATION IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO BOTH SIDES OF ALL DEBATES. in Fact Rupert Murdoch, KING OF RIGHT WING BIAS Now owns many many newspapers-the WALL ST. JOURNAL, TV stations-FOX and more- and IS the media.
there is no frkkn "left wing" conspiracy and there is ample room on all fronts for both sides to be heard.
the fact is that this Right wing Ding a ling, bible thumping governor, made a mistake. Albeit more of what you would expect from a "liberal" governor, but a mistake. it's true, the system failed, the governor failed and now the failed and broken lives of these officers children will pay the price.
Get off of the right wing left wing talk and relaize that we're in the post " media age" and that it's all open to all people-the thing that makes America great.
Get over it. there is no conspiracy by the media-only billions of new web pages in the world to publish the truth (and untruth) about whatever happens.
it's amazing how the so called "right wingers" show themselves to be idiotic, illiterate and oversimplified representatives of their cause. it only proves the point that "freedom of expression, media and publication" is better than restriction of information any day. that way everyone gets to show their level of intelligence and ability to distill information on their own.
sorry wingers, it's over!!

Posted by: ramseygouda | November 30, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I think the guy who created the Willie Horton ads is still in business!

Posted by: dlpetersdc | November 30, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I am not a Huckabee supporter, but did any of you attacking him read the article and review the timeline? You are focused on his commuting of the sentence. OK, the guy was given another chance and he blew it...look at the criminal trouble since. Where's the accountability? Is anyone worried he was being held by police in Washington, was wanted on a warrant in Arkansas, and he was let go on a $150k bond for child rape? That should be the real concern here.

Posted by: eliahs474 | November 30, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Chris83, wow, you're really reaching with this one, huh, dude? It's easy to tell that even you do not believe the drivel you are posting by saying this tragedy is the media's fault. Yes, of course, it's the media's fault. Well, since Fox News is apparently the ratings leader on cable and since Rupert Murdoch now owns the Wall Street Journal, MySpace and so much other media, this is obviously the fault of Rupert Murdoch and the far right wing. They dominate the media anyway. Just using your logic.

Posted by: fenarkleman | November 30, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

If it had been up to Sarah Palin, she would have quit mid-somewhat-garbled-thought, created a new name for a yet-to-be Palin baby (like, Torque Wrench, or some such thing), then would have quit in the middle of the whole thing to embark on her new career as Whiner in Chief.

Posted by: fenarkleman | November 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

It is a tragedy that the officers lost their lives, and it is yet another tragedy that the left and it's MEDIA will use this as political hacksawing to try to bring down Conservative politican,and it's ironic, that it is liberals that do not want these type of trash EXECUTED! and whine saying "we can rehibilitate these MURDERING CRIMINALS!" It's like having a younger sibling that thinks they are correct all the time, and whine about everything, then eventhough you give in and help them and do as they want, if it goes wrong it's your fault!
I have seen and heard everything NOW!

Posted by: Chris83 | November 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

All any criminal needed for a Huckabee pardon was a baptism and a "praise jezus!" or two.

I wonder how many more delightful surprises his gubernatorial evangelism will be providing for us.

Posted by: Brix | November 30, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Re: "On Sunday, Mr. Huckabee issued this statement ....., it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington state."

Interesting sidelight on one of those "failures." - the Seattle Times broke news that the suspect in the slaying of four police officers in a Seattle suburb was a former Arkansas resident who had had his sentence commuted by Huckabee and who was wanted on an outstanding Arkansas warrant. Can Huck spell "Willie Horton?

Posted by: waltonr1 | November 30, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Say goodnight, Chuckles. That's one obstacle to Sarah Palin getting the GOP nomination in 2012 out of the way.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | November 30, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

You Huck defenders are so perfectly predictable...You think it's a flippin' act of war when Obama bows to the Japanese Premier, but a 4 murder killer being loosed on America by a Bible thumping hick is fine. So much for your "We're not racist a**holes" lies.

Enjoy your irrelevancy, idiots.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | November 30, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

remember dukakis?bush senior rode him to victory.this will be hard to overcome .police officers yet.

Posted by: donaldtucker | November 30, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Thank God that hard-nosed, tough on crime conservatives are on the job.

Good bye, Huck, we hardly had time to ridicule ya. Don't let the (revolving penitentiary) door hit you on the way out.


Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | November 30, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

so much for the "buck stops here". I am always amazed by the right wings push for personal responsibility, except when it pertains to them. Mike Huckabee is just like all the others blame someone else for your failures. The man does not have the character to be President. And please anyone who responds please deal with this issue. Don't be child and say well Pres. Obama did this or something else totally off point.

Posted by: rickafl | November 30, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Interesting how the article states Huckabee comuuted his sentence in the headlines, but truth be told, he was on the loose because of our judicial system. The attached Seattle Times article gives more space to the Huckabee story than questioning why he was not still being held for the felonies in Washington State. It's too bad news has succumbed to profit and rather than just report facts, we get sensational headlines...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010385617_webmansought29.html

Posted by: eliahs474 | November 30, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Hick-a-bee is less relevant to this story than the stupidity of the US criminal justice system. We continue to fail to spend the money necessary to protect society from criminals, mentally ill or sane. Hick-a-bee's relevance is his perfect fit with accepting but not changing a broken system. No wonder he's a good RepubliKKKan/KKKonservative GOD FEARING KKKandidate.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | November 30, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The senseless and savage parole leading to execution of police officers in Washington State has infuriated the nation especially the GOP. Huckabee's original pardon shows not just negligence but active disdain and contempt of the people who voted for him.

Should he be found to be responsible for this horrible hate crime, it will be one of a series of failures by Huckabee of the same kind including Wayne Dumond. Huckabee does not accept his buck stops here guilt as governor. That disqualifies him to be president, but does qualify him to be classified as among the establishment's typical rodents.

Posted by: OldAtlantic | November 30, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Sad story, but WHY is this making top headlines when Obama is sending 30,000+ more troops to war in Afghanistan???

Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | November 30, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who looks at the facts will see that the Clemmons clemency a decade ago on burglary was a reasonable use of clemency. The BIGGER issue is that Clemmons was released from jail just SIX days ago after posting bond on CHILD RAPE charges...and he had 7 other felony charges on top of that. Get the facts on this story here: http://mikehuckabeepresident2012.blogspot.com/2009/11/huckabee-clemency-record-and-clemmons.html

Posted by: bluestaterepublican | November 30, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

If it had been Sarah Palin's decision, she would have put him in a meat grinder and served him for Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: pagebike | November 30, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Huckabee didn't win the presidential Republican nomination because he was viewed as "soft" by most republicans. I guess this article is an attempt to derail another bid in 2012.

Relax Garance, I don't think he's gonna run.

Posted by: lottaaction | November 30, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse


Showing mercy to convicted criminals is lighting potential sticks of dynamite. Huckabee just had one explode. So did Mike Dukakis.

No governor with aspirations to higher office can forget these lessons. Therefore we will put up with some injustice in sentencing and higher costs for more incarceration.

Unfortunately the public has a visceral emotional response to stories like this. The only way we can evaluate Gov. Huckabee's decision is to look at it in total. How many other clemency cases went bad? Alas, this is likely to go unexamined in the subsequent emotional response.

Posted by: edbyronadams | November 30, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

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