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West Wing sees little national meaning in election results

Update 1:32 p.m.: For more on this story, read here.

By Michael D. Shear
As they woke up this morning on the one-year anniversary of President Obama's historic election, senior West Wing aides proclaimed themselves largely unconcerned about what last night's Democratic losses might portend for their boss or his agenda.

White House officials rejected what they said was over-hyped conclusions about the impact on Obama of losing the governorships in New Jersey and Virginia, and instead sought to focus attention on the Democratic victory in New York's 23rd Congressional District.

"We won a congressional seat that's been in Republican hands since Ulysses S. Grant was president, in part because of the disunity in the Republican Party," senior adviser David Axelrod said in an early-morning phone interview. "That was the only truly national
contest on the ballot."

Axelrod said the intervention of national conservatives in pushing the moderate GOP candidate out of the New York race will be the only lasting impact of the night.

"The most portentous thing that happened yesterday was that the right wing of the Republican Party ran a moderate Republican essentially out of the race, and lost a seat they had held for more than 100 years," he said. "I don't take that as discouragement."

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin appeared to endorse that view with an early-morning posting on her Facebook page, in which she proclaimed that the fight in that district was not over, just "postponed" until next year's regularly scheduled election.

"To the tireless grassroots patriots who worked so hard in that race and to future citizen-candidates like Doug, please remember Reagan's words of encouragement after his defeat in 1976: 'The cause goes on," she wrote. "Don't get cynical because look at yourselves and what you were willing to do, and recognize that there are millions and millions of Americans out there that want what you want, that want it to be that way, that want it to be a shining city on a hill.' The cause goes on."

Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine, who is also Virginia's outgoing governor, conceded on NBC's "Today" show that "there is anxiety out there about the economy. ... And that played a factor in a lot of these races."

But that was about as far as officials close to the Obama administration would go in accepting the argument that the Democratic losses Tuesday night send an ominous message of any kind to the party about how they should pursue their policies in the weeks and months ahead.

Asked about the defeats, one White House official said, "But in all seriousness, what does that mean? What is the connection? What does it portend? It's easy to write it means something. It's impossible to make a rational, well-informed argument about why."

Axelrod said he and other White House aides would attempt to help the "merchants of conventional wisdom focus on the facts here." And he said there would be no reassessment of the president's push for health-care reform -- or even a change in tactics.

Early analysis in the media focused on the possibility that moderate lawmakers already nervous about casting tough votes on health-care or climate change legislation might see Tuesday night's results as a warning that Obama's policies can damage their hopes for reelection.

But Axelrod called that analysis wrong.

"If we operated on the day-to-day perceptions of some of the political class in Washington, we wouldn't be there," he said. Quoting former Democratic senator Gary Hart, he insisted again that the real news Tuesday night was the evident division in the GOP. "Washington's always the last to get the news."

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Posted by: hoodt47 | November 11, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Bagdad Bob meet DC Dave. He lost two states. That brings him to 55.

Posted by: jomowo | November 5, 2009 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Hussein Obama campaigns in NJ 6 times and the Democrat gets clobbered!!! thats a statement bro.

Posted by: vangup | November 4, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

So much for honesty and transparency from the White House! Last night was a total rejection of the policies of Obama and the Democratic party. The 9.8% UNEMPLOYMENT, the Trillions upon Trillions of dollars of corrupt spending and debt! The arrogance and corruption! The total takeover by the Government of our Health Care which will put almost every aspect of our lives in the hands of the Government! The broken campaign promises, the attacks on the old and handicapped who dare dissent from what Obama wants to do! The silly attack on the press (Fox News) and the first amendment. If Obama had been on the ballot last night he would have probably pulled it out and won the blue state of NJ, but he would have lost in VA. The radical policies and damage Obama and the Democrats have brought to our economy have been rejected by the voters....and it will only get worse from here on out for those going down Obama's "road to hell"!

Posted by: valwayne | November 4, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

The NJ and Virginia wins were a reaction to bad Obama policies. We know this because the swings from the national election to yesterdays was so large.

With Obama spending trillions the economy will continue to languish. Unemployment will continue up. Freedom will continue to be sacrificed for installation of socialist programs.

Expect the dems to be summarily thrown out in 2010.

Posted by: rodhug | November 4, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

David--Sorry to contradict you, but these results are major, not just as a portent for next year, but right now. The common saying is "All politics are local." True, but here's how that bears: Obama’s win last year was the result of huge turnout for him personally. He has no heft at all when it comes to other Democrats. He visited New Jersey three times, most recently last Sunday, and Corzine’s numbers were worse on Monday than on Friday. This was in a very blue state. Senators and congressmen on next year’s ballot in, say, Arkansas, Indiana, Nebraska or Louisiana are therefore going to think of the demands of their state's voters first and of Obama’s program not at all.

This brings me to the second point: Obama’s program will not be enacted. Obama can consider the Senators from those four states as lost causes, so the public option has no chance at all. Cap and trade has no chance at all. What does that leave the Democrats with going into next year? A very, very unhappy base and a record of nothing for everybody else.

Posted by: bobroyfills | November 4, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Does no one at the WaPo or in the Democrat Party know how to Google. Just enter "history of NY23" and you will see that 19 different Dems have held this seat since the Civil War. When Pelosi made this claim, it was just a predictable lie. When the WaPo and other State Controlled Media outlets repeat, it's just irresponsible, biased non-journalism.

Posted by: Jarbo1 | November 4, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Ignore the obvious if you like. I hardly vote the same party down the ticket, but i DID last night.

Everytime I read a paper, Democrats are proposing a new tax.

As for NY-23. A no name conservative loses by only 5 points to someone who will NEVER vote for this health care bill...no worries there.

Posted by: vrbjunk | November 4, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"Merchants of conventional wisdom"?

Axelrod, did you mean the "nattering nabobs of negativism"?

Posted by: lithium452 | November 4, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

The only way Obama, Reid and Pelosi are going to get anything done is to force it down our collective throats. Just remember, when it comes time for your next election we will all make d--n sure it doesn't happen.

Posted by: opearson | November 4, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Of course they're not worried. They have a "master" strategy. Things are evolving exactly according to their plan.

A plan which a year into the administration has yielded:
1) few notable achievements
2) over-the-top hatred from the right-wing fringe
3) disapointment and worry (if not yet outright revolt) from progressives
4) declining support among independents and moderates
5) continuing ownership of our government by the Fortune 100

All this in the face of an upcoming midterm election which is likely to slow progress down even further and result in reduced democratic majorities. Oh yeah, and then Obama will be running for re-election rather than running the country.

Very good plan Obama/Axelrod/Emanuel. Forget the comparisons to Reagan or Clinton. A more apt comparison would be Carter, only with less moral consistency.

Just another example of intellect getting in the way of leadership.

Posted by: lithium452 | November 4, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

bsallamack nailed it.

I hope you're scouring the news media today Axelrod. We've clearly identified the big issues that HAVE to be tackled. If you don't then we'll continue our downward spiral and knuckle dragging Christofacists will take the reigns of power again.

Posted by: theobserver4 | November 4, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

This white house is little more than a bunch of juveniles. I bet they go around saying things like; You're not the boss of me, I know you are but what am I, sticks and stones.... What a joke Obummer has turned out to be.

Posted by: candyzky | November 4, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Well, I must give the Dems this, they have made a very select few VERY wealthy people even more wealthy and thank god all the bonuses the banks couldn't generate enough funds for by themselves were covered by the United State tax payers. Thank God the United States Tax payer has had the privilage of preserving the sanctity and holiness of the Wall Street, Bank and Corporate Executive salary and bonus plan. Most of us can't even fathom the unreal amounts of $$$ these guys rape from the companies they run into the ground for us shareholders, but they just seem to always need even more! Wow, how much $$$ can a person actually spend! Sometimes I get confused when I have an extra $10 spot...like, wow I could eat or go to a movie...well, almost go to a movie.

Posted by: Impeachbush99 | November 4, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Who will be the party of Wall Street in 2010?

In 2010 Democrats will face elections where Sarah Palin and others like Rush Limbaugh will take the stage to attack Democrats while extolling the virtues of Republicans.

Republican candidates will introduce the speaker or more effectively will be at another election event.

A return to the old politics of the demagogues with the twist that the demagogues are not running for election but are front and center to aid the candidates that are running for office.

Sarah Palin will replay that the Republicans are the party of Main Street and not the party of Wall Street.

Sarah Palin will replay that the Republicans are the party that do not wait for months to support our American Troops.

And what will the Democrats say?

Will they say the Democrats have brought back Glass Steagall to force the bankers back into the business of lending and out of the business of large bonuses?

Will they say that the Democrats have taxed like Tobacco, the large bonuses out of existence and want those who work in financial firms to work on salary like the rest of America and not on large bonuses like AIG where taxpayers had to waste 200 billion dollars because of large bonuses?

Will they say that the Democrats have pushed for recovering the taxes on millions that should have been paid by the hedge fund managers and closed that loophole?

Will they say that the President has fully explained to the nation why he said no and will not send more American troops to Afghanistan?

Will they say that the President has stopped the visas for foreign worker in a nation without jobs for America?

Will they say that the President has publicly told American corporations that sending American jobs overseas when so many Americans are unemployed is not in the interests of America?

Or will the Democrats in 2010 not be able to anything?

Posted by: bsallamack | November 4, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The best news of all is that the White House misreads the results and will keep on doing what they've been doing.

Posted by: CapnRusty | November 4, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Liberal Democrats have nothing to worry about- losing a couple of state governorships is nothing. After all we know that power is soon to be concentrated in Washington DC, from where control over the health care system will be exercised, and the economy, and education and welfare and housing, ad nauseam ad infinitum. Just sit back with your feet up on the desk with that goofy smile. Obama, you are OUR LEADER. You haven't a think to worry about.

Posted by: mhr614 | November 4, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Suddenly the VA & NJ races are not important to the White House? This is what Rahm Emanuel had to say about the VA & NJ elections in 2005: "Whatever the outcome of those elections, it will have an impact on people's interpretations of the upcoming election."

I hope for their sake that the White House is not drinking their own Kool Aid. Because after yesterday, it's pretty clear that voters aren't.

Posted by: rickbrownell | November 4, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

........N Y...23RD...I S...T H E...R E A L...S T O R Y........
Too bad the mainstream media pay so little attention to rightwing hate-radio.
Not because I like it, but because it is dangerous and needs to be monitored.
If you listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz and Beck...you would know that they put all their chips in on the conservative in NY-23rd.
They pushed that race like it was the presidency and they brought in Sarah Palin, Fred Thompson and their country music hatemonger John Rich...
THEY WENT ALL IN AND THEY ...L O S T.....
They proved to the whole nation that they are totally out of touch.
The governors races truly were local and this race truly was national.
Chins up Dem's!

Posted by: ChipShirley | November 4, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Well they damn well better worry! The polls show the base did not show up! Why? Why vote if the democrats are going to act like republicans? Corzine was a Goldman Sachs fatcat. Hmmm....wonder if that had anything to do with it. Deeds ran away from progressive values.

Get a clue Obama administration! You got Summers and Geitner making sure the banks will continue to grow and risk our money. Obama is acting like Herbert Hoover, not FDR. As a lifelong democrat I will vote independent or green before I vote democrat again unless the democrats start getting their act together!

Posted by: sandnsmith | November 4, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

The only day Obama will care what the American people want is the day he is voted OUT of office.

Until then, expect him to carry on as the typical elite-in-chief that has thrown everything we hold dear, right into the proverbial toilet.

All he is waiting on is the final flush before making the power moves that will ultimately destroy this nation

Posted by: ProveMeWrong | November 4, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I'm sure it doesn't mean anything. Just keep catering to Wall Street, Fat Cat Bankers and Corporate Execs while giving the finger to all those that voted you into office!

This strategy should be quite interesting.

Posted by: Impeachbush99 | November 4, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Had it gone the other way, the victory would have been a victory for the hope and change agenda that Obama and other Democrats have been trying to shove down our throats. Even in NY-23, the non-Owens vote was bigger than the pro-Owens vote. All in all, last night was a big repudiation of Obama, pelosi, and Reid.

Posted by: thelaw1 | November 4, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"Contests serve as warning to Democrats," headlines the Washington Republican (opps, I mean Post), prejudice as always. The results actually served as a warning to Conservatives as the Democrats took the NY-23 House seat, a "safe" Republican seat for over 100 years.

Virginia pitted a classic Republican against a classic Democrat - corrupt vs stupid. Democrat Deeds talked about increasing taxes and could not articulate most of his positions. Stupid. Republican McDonnell pretended to be a moderate, burying his true beliefs. Then he told the big lie - I will build roads and cut taxes. Vintage Ronald Reagan - free stuff, free money - pure magic, except a governor cannot print money like the president. Corrupt.

In NJ voters simply threw a crook out of office, nothing more.

The race with national implications was for the NY-23 District House, a seat held by Republicans for over 100 years, now turns Democratic. Big conservative money from outside the state funded the Independent conservative and destroyed the Republican moderate, who withdrew. Big Conservatives from outside the state, notably led by Sarah Palin, campaigned for the loser.

Conservatives lost, moderate Republicans lost, and the Democrats won! That is the news of the day WP, even if your prejudices won't let you report it.

Posted by: chucky-el | November 4, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, sure, just keep on snubbing your nose at those that put you into office, don't fullfill ANY of your campaign promises and see how far that gets you.

Working our really well for you so far, eh?

Oh well, at least you get a bunch of campaign $$$$ and a few votes from the very few undeserving filthy rich Wall Street fat cats and bankers you love so much...just that there aren't enough of them to vote you into office, even with all the $$$ in the world.

The United States is great, isn't it?

Posted by: Impeachbush99 | November 4, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Just like the stinking rotten double talking politicians they are.Guarantee if their people would have won "they would have seen meaning in this election".
Obama has had his run so let's elect someone else.COULD NOT BE ANY WORSE.

Posted by: rwilliamhayes | November 4, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

to obama and the dems...
you either get jobs for the millions unemployed....
at least a couple of million jobs...
or face angry voters in 2010...

Posted by: DwightCollins

----------------------------------------------

I thought you didn't like gov't jobs.

We're pulled back from the abyss courtesty of the taxpayer, so now it's time for the recipients of gov't funds to start hiring again. Or should the gov't mandate the growth in employment for private companies to make sure we gets our jobs?

What I'm really asking is how do we get these jobs??? Where's your solution to go with the complaint......

Posted by: theobserver4 | November 4, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

........N Y...23RD...I S...T H E...R E A L...S T O R Y........
Too bad the mainstream media pay so little attention to rightwing hate-radio.
Not because I like it, but because it is dangerous and needs to be monitored.
If you listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz and Beck...you would know that they put all their chips in on the conservative in NY-23rd.
They pushed that race like it was the presidency and they brought in Sarah Palin, Fred Thompson and their country music hatemonger John Rich...
THEY WENT ALL IN AND THEY ...L O S T.....
They proved to the whole nation that they are totally out of touch.
The governors races truly were local and this race truly was national.
Chins up Dem's!

Posted by: ChipShirley | November 4, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Remember these comments in 2010. After Health Care, Cap & Trade, and higher taxes from local and state governments that no longer have stimulus dollars to make ends meet, people will be voting for wholesale change. Just not the hopey changey kind.

Posted by: Alangc2 | November 4, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Here in India and, I understand, Africa and Latin America, people are shocked that the President's popularity and efforts failed this time, a year after his glorious and pervasive victory.

One of my American acolytes has e-mailed me that a great Democrat, a Mr Tip O'Neil, is famous for saying "All politics is local." The White House appears to be dismissing the President's presumed considerable local appeal. The question, then, is what happened to it?

Posted by: surendranathyogi | November 4, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Yes the dems are right, doesn't mean anything

Keep right on thinking that

Keep right on thinking you have a mandate and that you are the chosen ones.

Keep right on ramrodding your agenda through Congress

We will see you next November, or maybe not!

Posted by: kathymac1 | November 4, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to see Obama's crew circling the wagons and denying reality just as the Bushies did.

But I'm not surprised at the election results.

Obama's given us a Republican, Bush-lite administration.

The voters followed his lead and voted for the same.

Posted by: norriehoyt | November 4, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

The Dems aren't going to give the gift of a woefully uncharismatic Deeds and crooked Corzine on the ballot all across the nation next year.

So well done on the switch in two governorships. I'm pleased that Jersey switched hands and appalled that Virginia did. That has everything to do with who the Dems and Repubs put up in their respective slots.

Don't believe for a moment that you'll be cruising on some red tidal wave of votes next year though. Your candidates have a huge mountain to climb in the trust dept to win Indies on a regular election year. Dems also have most of next year to solidify the improvements we've had since the Bush collapse. They'll be rewarded greatly if they can keep pushing us out of the hole we had be religiously digging ourselves for the last 30 odd years.

1) Financial Re-regulation and Trust Busting
2) Health Care WITH a public option
3) winding down the war intelligently

Posted by: theobserver4 | November 4, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

The attitude from the White House in trying to say they are ignoring last night's results is another show of how juvenile their style of governing is. Obama and Biden were all over the Corzine campaign both with visits and advertisements. To now say it means nothing that he has lost, is a sad statement that they don't want anyone's loss tied to them lest it show that Obama isn't all he has cracked himself up to be as the harbinger of hope and change and saviour to all woes of the world. They even cut Deeds afloat a week or so ago by saying he didn't embrace Obama fast enough and that is why he was losing in the polls, and now Corzine who did tie his coattails to Obama lost and now the spin is "they don't matter". It also shows to me that the turnout for his own presidential election with the largest percentages of the African American constituency ever, doesn't show up to the same degree in regular elections and neither did the voices of the younger who apparently didn't show up in droves either. So what does this say for the democratic party and was their majority only the result of 2 constituencies who wanted to be part of history in electing the first African American president and then dont put out the effort the rest of the time in their state politics?

Posted by: justmyvoice | November 4, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

As Former VP Draft Dodger Cheney might say,
"SO?" So,the Obama White House and its real
sleazy out of touch with reality inhabitants like David Axelrod,Rahm Emmanuel, and Robert Fibbs just like Empty
Suit Messiah Barack Hussein Obama are so far in Total Denial that last night's election marks the start of the ending of
their Obama Marxist/Democrat Dictatorship!
And,note I am not talking about the River
in Egypt here,the Nile..As Obama & Stooges
have been totally out of touch with reality
as the rest of their Democrat Axis of Weasels Culture of Corruption Misleaders
Mad Madame Speaker Nutcase Nancy Pelosi,
and Crazy Harry Reid and their Swamp Full
of Corrupt and Crooked Democrat Losers!...

And so, I bet Jimmy Carter and George W Bush are all smiles,not that they are no
longer The Worst Presidents In US History
as Barack Hussein Obama now owns that sad sack title as well as his Arrogance's ones
as Golfer in Chief,Party Animal in Chief,
Absentee President,AWOL & MIA Ditherer in
Chief and Liar in Chief among others...And
any Democrat fool enough to ask Obama to
campaign for him Deserves to be Defeated.
Come on 2010 and 2012 get here!...

Independent Voters For Sarah Palin in 2012!

Posted by: Ralphinphnx | November 4, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

All is well! ALL IS WELL!

Posted by: zippyspeed | November 4, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Little meaning huh!
We are going to see a lot of this since voters are seeing what direction Obama's Czars are trying to take our great nation.
Hows that hope and change working out for ya!!

Posted by: contractorrob | November 4, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I am a Virginian, I voted Republican to show my opposition to Obama, who I did not vote for in the Presidential election. Also to show my opposition to the Democratic career politician- Deeds who supports selling our already paid for roads, bridges and tunnels, here in Hampton Roads, to a foriegn owned corporation ...which would place high tolls on these transportation necessities besides have foriegners controling important national transportation infrastructures...and raising taxes without representation...all to pay for another not needed very expensive tunnel...that is being promoted by special interests who would make huge profits from construction and other hidden things.
I do not support the Republican candidates either, or for that matter any career politician who I feel seek public offices to earn a living and create wealth for themselves...my vote for the republican career politcians was in protest, and I am sure that they to a man will sell us out, double cross us, and stab us in the back... just as the election of Obama was the protest vote because of the Bush Presidency. I strongly believe that our Republic, the State of Virginia and our communities and families are now in Great Depression serious economic trouble and that our Republic is now a failed state...that Wall Street now the de facto governing body in place of our government...that Wall Street interests are making all of the important economic and political decisions along with absolute control of our entire economy ... Wall Street vermin have corrupted our government, the cadre of career politcians and all regulatory agencies. I believe that we are at war with the Wall Street vermin and traitors who are our most dangerous enemies...domestic enemies... and if not stopped will destroy our Republic and the value of citizenship...Further, I believe that Obama is not in the least qualified to hold any high public office because of the fact that he is without portfolio...that he has no experience in governing, no business experience of any kind as an owner, manager or employee and has no military experience or leadership because he has never served. I am also of the opinion that he is not eligible by Constitutional Law to be President...yes, I am one of the so-called nut cases who still belive him to be not a natural born citizen... or at any rate having a Kenyan father and being only a half citizen if that...

Posted by: 123Njord | November 4, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Next will be Reid, Pelosi & then Obama. Glad some voters are paying attention. The fact that the Dems are ignoring this tells you that if its not about them then they don't give a hoot. Its the same attitude they have by forcing health care, cap & trade, and other programs down your throat. We are watching and will continue to watch.

Posted by: 45upnorth | November 4, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

So the losses in the two places where Obama campaigned like mad, Virginia and NJ, and put the decision on Afghanistan on hold while doing so, mean nothing to Axelrod. But the place where Obama did not p1mp himself out, NY 23, was the bellwether for the future according to Axelrod the craven.

Got it. Will go out and endeavor to spread talking points. We are borg.

Posted by: bandmom22 | November 4, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

It's nice they can talk themselves into feeling good about last night.

How will they feel when the "blue dogs" analyze the results and run from the healthcare bill or push it into the 2010 election year, when no one with a slightly moderate bone in their body will touch that bill with a 10 foot pole?

Posted by: jahs4fun | November 4, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

If there was little meaning to these elections.

Then why did both Obama and Biden feel the need to campaign for the democratic candidates ?

Spin it libs "Yes We Can"

Posted by: dashriprock | November 4, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Just (more) words. When you think these jokers can't get any more arrogant and dismissive of the American people, they top themselves.

That's OK, they should keep doing what they're doing. 2009 should serve as a warning to voters for generations to come.

Posted by: Catherine11 | November 4, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

When Obama won, the pundits are saying that this was the death knell of the Republican party and cited the need for a new agenda. I took this with a grain of salt. After the Bush wins they were saying the same about the Democrats and that they need for a new agenda. I also took that with a grain of salt. Neither were or are true except in the hype mongering minds of the news media. The American people tend to sour very quickly on the party in power when they can't deliver the goods which they never can for a variety of reasons. For this reason I predict that for the forseeble future there will be a lot of one term presidents which George Bush would have been if it hadn't been for 9/11.

Posted by: browneri | November 4, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Political Prisoner, Thomas Sutton and Toreture victim. I just want to say 'THANKS'to the VOTERS yesterday especially in Virginia and New Jersey!!

Posted by: ThomasSutton | November 4, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see the GOP'ers are so confident that the election of two republican governors is a repudiation of Obama and the Democrats nationally and is a harbinger of things to come in 2010. That kind of arrogance and mind-set will only dis-service them next year.

Posted by: zackool | November 4, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

The Obama Presidency: Too much hype

Posted by: ANTILIB | November 4, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Axlerod dismisses all of the GOP victories as completely insignificant except the one DEM victory he says is the most significant of all time. Meanwhile, Gibbs (as reported on FOX) says Obama was not watching the results but instead was viewing a program about his campaign. Mirror mirror on the wall ... Washington politics has become a farce, best watched with the theme song of Monty Python's Flying Circus in the background. The merger of entertainment and news departments has long since blurred the distinction between the two. It is time Emmy awards be given to politicians. Can you imagine the new categories?

Posted by: geezer64 | November 4, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Elsewhere in this paper, David Axelrod belittled the defection of New Jersey and Virginia Independents, as many were "calling themselves Republicans," before "calling themselves Independents, and they vote Republican."

I,for one, switched from Democrat to Independent. Een though I voted for Corziine, Axelrod's comments are dismissive; part and parcel of growing concern that independents and moderates were schnookered. Bait and switch. Once Obama assumed the presidency, the left-wing blogs (Daily Kos, for heaven's sake) and left-wing caucuses asserted ownership, forcing a health care agenda and entitlements and spending none of us signed up for.

Moreover, many moderates and Independents who campaigned for and voted for President Obama provided the margin of victory last year feel betrayed.

Posted by: SueR1 | November 4, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Sjcsando wrote: "hat did y'all expect? That he would wave a magic wand and the disastrous mess created by Bush & Co. would immediately disappear? Get real. Obama hasn't even begun to scratch the surface of the enormity of the mess we're in."

No you're wrong. Obama has taken the mess that Bush left behind, and has made it worst.

Posted by: liberalsareblind | November 4, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

"ACTUALLY, OBAMA AND DEMS CAME OUT LOOKING PRETTY GOOD... THE HEADLINE IS NY-23, NOT LOSSES BY TWO DEFICIENT CANDIDATES."
Posted by: scrivener50 | November 4, 2009 10:10 AM
+*+*+*+
If Corzine is a "deficient candidate," why did his holiness make three separate campaign visits to New Jersey to flex his popularity muscles to help Corzine win reelection, only to be defeated even with the considerable charms of his holiness working for him?

Is anyone surprised that the latest king-maker, Axelrod, would poo-poo these results and deny any impact and say they are of no concern, of no consequence...?
What else would they do?...publicly wring their hands with a chorus of "Woe is us?"
President Pied Piper/Empty Suit is a total joke, and probably the most dangerous man on the planet because of his disastrous blend of unfathomable power and unparalleled incompetence. I look forward to a greater balance of power in DC after the elections of 2010, and a change of tenant in the White House after the elections of 2012. 'May GOD help us all....

Posted by: snoopy7666 | November 4, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Yawn. What's one win for the GOP? Obama still has 3 more years in office and an additional 4 to fix 8 years of their BS. What did y'all expect? That he would wave a magic wand and the disastrous mess created by Bush & Co. would immediately disappear? Get real. Obama hasn't even begun to scratch the surface of the enormity of the mess we're in. It took 8 years to get to this point. It will take at least that or more to get out of it. Just like people don't get fat or skinny overnight. But go ahead and celebrate GOPers. 2012 will decide your fate. Nobody with any rational sense cares about 2009.

Posted by: sjcsando | November 4, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I would say the NY 23 results were really a referendum on the party leaders who selected a candidate with stands that a Democrat would espouse, more than a true comparison between Owens and Hoffman. The voters in that district have a year to evaluate whether Mr. Owens represents them they way they want because he'll be on the ballot again in a year.

It will be interesting to see what a Republican candidate duly selected by the voters does in the 2010 election. That will be the time do declare victory, not this year with the disruptions that muddied the waters with a third party candidate, withdrawal, and Republican endorsing Democrat in what appeared to be a fit of pique.

Posted by: annetta3 | November 4, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Lighten up, folks--ole Axle-rod and dumpling-boy Gibbs gave me my morning laugh.

Posted by: inmanorj | November 4, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Someone should tell Axelrod he made a fool of himself -- in print.
Grant was president from 1869 to 1877, seems Ax failed History classes.
The last Democrat elected to a House seat from the region was Frances E. Spinner, who represented St. Lawrence County in Congress from 1855 to 1857.
So even on this point, Ax is dead wrong.

Posted by: rannan3 | November 4, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

What a turnaround! Obama gets thrown under the bus!! :-)
And we are told that His Arrogance wasn't watching the election returns - he was busy watching an HBO Special on his 2008 campaign!!!
Talk about having your head in the sand!!

Posted by: thornegp2626 | November 4, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

So Obama is trying to downplay the Republican landslides yesterday? How immature of him! Obama kind of reminds me of a teenager who doesn't want to get in trouble with his parents for drinking by completely denying his hangover the next morning to his parents

Posted by: liberalsareblind | November 4, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Nothing these leftist bozos say can be believed.

The wins in VA and NJ are a slap in the arrogant face of Odumbo, nothing less.

Obviously, he still doesn't get it.

What a disgrace.

Posted by: LarryG62 | November 4, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Will anyone be talking about Election 09 after Thanksgiving?

Posted by: AxelDC | November 4, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

This is so typical of the White House these Dem`s will spin every loss into some thing good,but the American people have woken up to this President and all his B.S. The Afghanistan elections are over,What excuse is Obama going to use now. This man has not stopped campaigning, all he is good at is flying all over the place and voting present.

I get a kick out of him at these campaign stops,When he talks to Black people he gets right down on their level.He tells them the same B.S . That all the Black leaders tell them. President Lincoln freed the slaves and he was a Republican, but the Black Leaders which are all Democrats are still using the Blacks as their slaves.

Wake up Black America you are being used by your own people to fatten their pockets and not yours.

Posted by: cj362810 | November 4, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

It all continues to fit the pattern: When Bush's people did not like reality, they chose to ignore it. When Obama's people don't like reality, they claim it's really something else.

We've gone from the arrogant to the delusional. Yay, us!

Posted by: Wallenstein | November 4, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Reminds me of the Monty Python sketch: cuts off an arm, "that didn't hurt", cuts off a leg, "that didn't hurt ...

Posted by: icmop911 | November 4, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

This same WH that seems so unaffected by last night's losses is the same WH that told us back in February " if the Stimulus Bill wasn't passed NOW, it would be a crisis we might never recover from " It also assured us " ALL spending is stimulative ". I think the voters of VA and NJ just told the WH loud and clear, your lousy stimulus isn't CREATING jobs !! IF that's not in the national interest, I don't know what is.
This WH shoved the economy aside to pass all their agenda, I predict in 2010 more lost races will tell them they made a huge miscalculation..

Posted by: rannan3 | November 4, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

If the administration sees little meaning to their their loss in New Jersey and Virginia, they are slow freight. This was no doubt a rejection of this administration's handling of the economy, this pathetic expensive bureaucratic healthcare entitlement which is not about cost reform and everything about the government takeover of one sixth of our economy, the Stimulus bill that stimulated the palms of leftist interest groups, unions, and wacky environmentalists and nothing about providing jobs and his unbelievable indecisiveness on the war in Afghanistan.
This President is well on his way to being the replacement of Carter as the worst President this nation has ever had. Instead of apologizing to the world for us, he should apologize to us for failing to honor his oath over his excessive need for self promotion.
This is just the beginning. We need to send these deaf arrogant liberal politicians home to find one of those jobs the Stimulus supposedly provided.

Posted by: greatgran1 | November 4, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I'm registered Democratic. You can bet your bottom dollar I'll be voting Republican

Posted by: 44charles | November 4, 2009 9:42 AM
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You honestly think the Republicans will do a better job? Were you not paying attention the last 8 years?

Posted by: mikem1 | November 4, 2009 9:58 AM

To mikem1
My guess is he was paying attention and that's exactly why he's voting Rep. A President’s term is defined by actions that are beyond his control. Bush was in office for less than a year when the US was attacked. This was the defining moment. The sad part is, People like you felt the same way as everyone else. VIOLATED. The US responded as any other country would. But in true LIB fashion you waivered. Yes it is tough and ugly but then again EVERY WAR HAS BEEN. Who knows where the US may have gone if we didn't have to deal with these terrorists around the globe. Obama has done nothing since taking office. He has ideas but no realistic way to reach those goals. He seems to be going off half cocked and instead of taking time and making the right decisions he's acting rash and making a bad situation worse. More jobs have been lost in the past 10 months then all lost jobs added together from 2000 - 2008. This is clearly on Obama's watch not Bush's. Obama needs to start ACTING like the President while he still can. Smoke and mirrors may have worked during the campaign but that’s not going to cut it now.

Posted by: askgees | November 4, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

President Obama is blamed for not getting us out of an economic quamire in nine months that has been in the making for eight years...give me a break. News Flash, we are on the verge of a very weak economy for many, many years....Look at Japan as the model. This is a new reality, so get used to it the old days of leveraging your homes for cash are gone.
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exactly and Obama is being punished for not adjusting his "historic" ambitions to the reality on the ground. the problem with Obama, as is true of any person of the left, is that all of his "ideas" and policies require MONEY, and LOTS of it.
Health care must not pass, because we dont have a trillion dollars to spend in new programs, and we need to cut spending 10% across the board and be a responsible steward of the country.

Obama needs to decide if he wants to be the president he dreamt of being when he was under the influence of rev. wright, or the president that america needs, err can afford, in the here and now.

Posted by: dummypants | November 4, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

David Axelrod is an idiot, this congressional office has been held by a republican since 1852 - Ulysses S. Grant was not President then, Axelnut. The only results the whitehouse was interested in Maine's same-sex marriage vote.

Posted by: candyzky | November 4, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Instead of getting the wax out of his ears, Obama continues to think that his job is about spinning the gullible American people.

Posted by: pkhenry | November 4, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

President Obama is blamed for not getting us out of an economic quamire in nine months that has been in the making for eight years...give me a break. News Flash, we are on the verge of a very weak economy for many, many years....Look at Japan as the model. This is a new reality, so get used to it the old days of leveraging your homes for cash are gone.

Posted by: october30 | November 4, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Too funny, if the DEMS had one VA and NJ you would see all these dirt bags on TV telling America that this is proof that Obama's plans are working and so on. THEY LOST!!!! Now they say, it wasn't that big of a deal, the candidates we're weak. Guess what; throwing people under the bus is what DEMS do best. One would think that after years of doing so they would realize it only hurts them. The people see through the Obama veil of lies. Today's elections prove that. 2010 a beating they will never forget.

Posted by: askgees | November 4, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Governors who ran as moderates do-not-vote for national legislation, but Congressional Representatives do. The bottom line is GOP lost one voting member of Congress and Dems picked up a seat heretofore out of their grasp for a hundred years. Thank you Rush Limbaugh, who has shown an uncanny losing streak every time he argues on behalf for a candidate. Now he has Palin joing him in his losing streak....Keep it up.

Posted by: october30 | November 4, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

mikem1--You say the Obama White house had very little effect on the elections. That's just the point.Obama can't help other candidates at all. He was elected because of huge turnout personal to him, but when he visits New Jersey three times it doesn't do a thing for Corzine. Senators and Congressmen in swing states and districts know this now if they didn't before. Say adios to any hope of 60 votes on health care in the Senate, and maybe to 218 in the House. Forget cap and trade.In fact, forget the whole Obama program. Then welcome to 2010.

Posted by: bobroyfills | November 4, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

ACTUALLY, OBAMA AND DEMS CAME OUT LOOKING PRETTY GOOD... THE HEADLINE IS NY-23, NOT LOSSES BY TWO DEFICIENT CANDIDATES

Both Corzine and Deeds were exceptionally poor candidates. Corzine never connected with regular people and his failure to address high Jersey taxes sealed the deal. Deeds' shortcomings are well-known in this space.

Far more significant: Owens' victory in NY-23 and the splintering of the GOP by their grassroots Gestapo pitchfork people. If Levi Johnston hasn't already done in Sarah Palin, this should do it -- and, God willing, the results will deflate the gasbags Limbaugh and Beck.

On the positive side for the GOP, New Jerseyans have granted Chris Christie an exceptional opportunity to recast the party as reasoned and moderate. But Christie, a Bush "pioneer" and unabashed cheerleader during the Bush-Cheney Reign of Terror, should renounce his former political idol and embrace Libertarian positions on civil liberties and human rights issues.

He can start by reversing course on warrantless wiretapping, surveillance and cellphone/GPS tracking of innocent but "targeted" citizens -- the electronic backbone of a grassroots Gestapo that Christie knowingly enabled as a U.S. attorney.

Perhaps he can take some lessons from recent songs by his musical hero, Bruce Springsteen, whose lyrics scold those who have allowed "national security" to be used as pretext for an ideological purge.


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TO STOP SILENT GOV'T MICROWAVE ATTACKS ON U.S. CITIZENS

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Posted by: scrivener50 | November 4, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

So where are the big headlines that Palin's candidate in New York lost in a district that has not gone Democratic since the Civil War? Oh, so the media just continues its pounding of Obama and not Palin or anyone GOP like Pawlenty because that doesn't fit the corporate talking points. George Mason University media study says the headlines since Obama's first day in office have been 65% against him. That tells you more about this election than anything. The media have the knives out for Obama. I hardly read a story anymore because I can't find anything positive about Obama to read, and that is not Obama's fault. The media never took the knives to Bush, even when he deserved it. It is corporate media bias pure and simple. The Wall Street folks and corporate CEO's want to make sure they keep the big bucks and they must run the media.

Posted by: goldie2 | November 4, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

That's good, Mr. Axelrod... Please keep seeing things that way.

We wouldn't want anything to get in the way of your blind, narcissistic arrogance, would we.

See you in 2010... and again in 2012.

Posted by: wilsan | November 4, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse


I'm registered Democratic. You can bet your bottom dollar I'll be voting Republican

Posted by: 44charles | November 4, 2009 9:42 AM
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You honestly think the Republicans will do a better job? Were you not paying attention the last 8 years?

Posted by: mikem1 | November 4, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

It has begun!

Posted by: inowat | November 4, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

You can bet every last stimulus dollar that if the DEMOcrats had won VA and NJ last night, that Mr. Mouthpiece Gibbs and Mr. Suckup Axelrod would attribute victory to Mr. ObeyMe throwing his support their way. But since that didn't happen, then it's a non-event in their eyes. That's GREAT! Hopefully they'll be just as callous and clueless in 2010 and 2012!

Posted by: Escapee1 | November 4, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm registered Democratic. You can bet your bottom dollar I'll be voting Republican

Posted by: 44charles | November 4, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

The majority Americans which are Independents and Moderates are sick and tired of the right and left wing bickering and doing nothing.....So now the Moderates and Independents are now taking over.

Posted by: lucygirl1 | November 4, 2009 9:34 AM | Report abuse

To me, Christie managing to win against the NJ Democratic machine, second only to the Chicago Democratic machine in power and corruption, is the true harbinger of things to come. Corzine should have been able to ride the coattails of Obama's high personal favorability ratings to victory, but he couldn't do it. As for NY-23, the total number of votes cast in the election is about 15% of the votes cast for loser Deeds in Virgina. If Owens wins in the next general election, then I can see a trend. But the GOP must/will hold a primary for that election, which will prevent the bloodbath that ensued this time.

Posted by: WashingtonDame | November 4, 2009 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Well Team Obama, you folks just keep on thinking that way!! Will make it a lot easier -- and cheaper -- for all concerned!!

You have FAILED TO LISTEN; FAILED TO ACT FOR THE US CITIZENS; BLAME OTHERS; TRIED TO SOCIALIZE AMERICAN BUSINESS! If you did not see a repudiation on November 3, 2009, then hang around Clyde, and there will be a three dimensional picture painted for you in November 2010!!

Posted by: wheeljc | November 4, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

to obama and the dems...
you either get jobs for the millions unemployed....
at least a couple of million jobs...
or face angry voters in 2010...

Posted by: DwightCollins | November 4, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

The W.H. response is Obama politics as usual -- you lose with egg on your face, you say "it's no big deal" and "means nothing", whereas you win (note the comment re: the NY Congressional election) and it has direct bearing on the "national" scene. What buffoonery -- but expected!

Posted by: baltic | November 4, 2009 8:43 AM

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But it is true that Virginia historically flips sides after a presidential party switch. And truthfully, McDonnell was the better candidate. Corzine in NJ was already largely unpopular and ran a negative campaign, so that's no surprise either.

I don't think it's buffoonery to suggest that the Obama white house had very little affect on those elections. (including in NY).

Posted by: mikem1 | November 4, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

I want them to continue seeing no national implications for these elections....please keep ignoring that fact. That will make 2010 even easier to oust these Lunatice Liberals.

Posted by: hz9604 | November 4, 2009 9:18 AM | Report abuse

The New Third Party.....Independents and Moderates....

Posted by: lucygirl1 | November 4, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

The W.H. response is Obama politics as usual -- you lose with egg on your face, you say "it's no big deal" and "means nothing", whereas you win (note the comment re: the NY Congressional election) and it has direct bearing on the "national" scene. What buffoonery -- but expected!

Posted by: baltic | November 4, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

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